Kevin Kolb and Buddy Ryan Updates

Posted: March 23rd, 2011 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 16 Comments »

Reuben Frank has a good article up on the Kevin Kolb situation.  There’s not a lot of new info, but he summarizes the situation well.  Here are the bullet points:

* Kolb is available

* Eagles want picks, would be willing to accept picks in 2012 if CBA isn’t resolved prior to draft

* Eagles are hoping for 1st + another pick in the first 4 rounds

* Seattle is the team mentioned most, but source says Arizona has shown most interest

I do know that Seattle is interested.  Minnesota could be in the mix.  Coach Leslie Frazier said they would consider dealing for Kolb.  You’d have to wonder about teams like the Titans and Niners.  Both have unstable QB situations and new coaches.  Miami is said to have interest in Carson Palmer.

The bottom line is that Kolb is going to be traded unless the CBA situation goes disastrously bad.  Trying to figure out the exact compensation is challenging.  Would Arizona really deal the #5 overall pick for Kolb?  The easy answer is “no” or “hell no”, but you have to stop and think for a minute.  The Cards desperately need a QB.  Adding Kolb would fill that void and it would greatly help them in their effort to re-sign Larry Fitzgerald.  If they Gabbert or Newton or any other rookie you have to wonder if the kid would show enough in 2011 to make Fitz want to stay there.  Also, do remember that the Cards drafted OT Levi Brown 5th overall back in 2007 to fill a need.  They will make some strange moves.

Who would the Eagles target at pick 5 or 10 or 15?  That’s a whole other post.

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I was sad to read today that Buddy Ryan has cancer.  Rex Ryan didn’t give specific details when he broke the news.  Rex did say it wasn’t melanoma, which Buddy apparently has had twice before.  I was unaware of that.  Just shows you what a tough SOB ol’ Buddy is.

Hopefully Buddy can beat the cancer.  He’s 80 years old, but still has a unique personality.  I know my grandfathers each got a bit ornery as they got older.  Is it possible for Buddy to get more ornery?   I’d really love to sit down and talk football with him.  I’d pick his brain to see how he found the Seth Joyners and Clyde Simmons of the world late in the draft.  I’m still blown away that late round picks from UTEP and Western Carolina became such dominant defensive players.

16 Comments on “Kevin Kolb and Buddy Ryan Updates”

  1. 1 Chris said at 12:10 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    If Kolb is traded for 2012 picks, do you think that a 1 and 2 is asking too much? Also, do you think just getting straight up picks is more likely or a player and a pick?

  2. 2 bula said at 12:18 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    just a thought. If kolb is traded for 2012 picks, maybe it’s a first in 2012 and a veteran qb. Are there any qb needy teams that could offer such a package that andy might buy?

  3. 3 Tommy Lawlor said at 12:26 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    We’d absolutely require a 1st in 2012. I’m not sure a team would give up their 2nd as well. That would kill them for that draft. We’d likely have to get a 3rd and maybe a late round pick as well…5th or 6th.

    RE: Vet QB

    Getting a vet QB in the trade is possible, but I don’t think likely. We’d be renting the QB until Kafka is ready to take over as the primary backup, which could be as soon as 2012. That would limit the value of the QB to us and not make him as enticing of a target.

    That could change if the right player is offered. I don’t have any specific names in mind. It can be hard to figure what Andy and Co. are thinking at QB sometimes.

    I think we’ll add a vet QB via FA. There should be some adequate guys on the market.

  4. 4 Ken said at 3:29 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    Would anyone be interested in trading Kolb and a 3rd to Arizona for #5? Kolb would likely be better in 2011 and is the safer of the 3 (Newton & Gabbert being the other 2) long term. They’d also get an addition 3rd to improve the team around him. For us, we’d likely have a shot a a guy like PP or Bowers.

  5. 5 Jeppe said at 5:15 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    I would make that trade in a heartbeat!
    Then draft Peterson #5, Kerrigan #23, Ijalana #54 and B. Carter in the 4th = defense fixed 🙂
    How would you like that?

  6. 6 Jeppe said at 5:16 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    Carter in the 3rd 🙂

  7. 7 Cliff said at 9:33 PM on March 23rd, 2011:

    If we were to draft a QB, two guys I am interested in are Andy Dalton (TCU) and Tyrod Taylor (VT).

    Dalton is one of those guys who “needs to adjust” to the pro game (who doesn’t?) and needs work mechanically, BUT he’s got “winner” written all over him. He was a 4-year starter at TCU and won 41 games while keeping TCU relevant on the national football scene. Let Reid and his crew work some magic on him.

    Tyrod is a personal favorite because: 1) We’re from the same place and 2) we both went to Virginia Tech. That’s relevant to the Eagles, too, because Michael Vick also shares that in common with us. Taylor could really benefit from spending time with Vick who shares the Peninsula and VT connection.

    I never like to base player evaluations on such intangible things like “winning mentality” (anyone else sick of Charlie Sheen?) and similar qualities, but those are what make these late-round QB target stand out to me.

  8. 8 Arby said at 9:07 AM on March 24th, 2011:

    @Ken
    I actually think Kolb straight up for the #5 pick is a possibility if you make the decision that he is better than either Newton or Gabbert.

    @Jeppe
    I like Bruce Carter for us in the 3rd too if he lasts that long. Wouldn’t we have to IR him for a year though? I could definitely see us taking a DL player in the 1st round, an OL player in the 2nd and a CB in the 3rd or 4th.

  9. 9 Jeppe said at 11:05 AM on March 24th, 2011:

    @arby I dont think that’s necessary, but maybe on the PUP… Where would you take Carter, Tommy? And could he be a target? A LB corps of Bradley, Chaney and Carter would be great!

  10. 10 Iowa Eagle said at 3:06 PM on March 24th, 2011:

    Tommy,

    Since the loss of IgglesBlog, I have been following you on twitter. Always thought you had the best angle on the Eagles, and could always count on your HONEST opinion. I found this website of your today, and am finding myself on cloud 9! To be honest, I hate twitter and now it will be a lot more user friendly to view your articles… Congrats on the new website man, and keep up the great work. I appreciate it!

  11. 11 Tommy Lawlor said at 9:39 PM on March 24th, 2011:

    I wrote about potential LB targets for PE.com. Submitted the column on Thursday so it should post in the next day or so. Depends on if anything exciting happens.

  12. 12 Chris said at 9:51 PM on March 24th, 2011:

    Are you intimating at something Tommy?

  13. 13 Tommy Lawlor said at 10:58 PM on March 24th, 2011:

    No, not at all. Making a sarcastic comment about how this non-offseason sucks.

  14. 14 Arno said at 8:09 AM on March 25th, 2011:

    Hating the slow offseason. I’m thinking what-if scenario’s of what-if scenario’s of what-if scenario’s:

    What veteran QB’s could be/are available?

    On a sidenote: Anyone got a link of Jason Short knocking Jared Devries out (during a kickoff) in the Eagles-Detroit-game of 2004?

  15. 15 netherman said at 9:26 AM on March 25th, 2011:

    Was looking at the “who the Eagles have shown interest in” post on EMB and surprised by how many LB’s have been brought in for a private visit vs. other positions.

  16. 16 Toby said at 8:56 PM on March 25th, 2011:

    Kolb would be a great fit in Seattle.