NE at PHI – 2nd Half
Posted: November 27th, 2011 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 153 Comments »We got up 10-0. Life was good.
And then reality set in.
The Pats then went on a 24-3 run. They now lead 24-13. The defense has had a few blown coverages. Guys are just making dumb mistakes. DBs bit on a play fake like it was 4th/GL from the 1. That led to easy long TD for Welker. Just can’t do crap like that.
Vince started great, but then fell in love with the big play. Mix those in, but you must also move the chains. Didn’t help that a couple of non-calls let the Pats get the ball. Ugh.
Must get a stop and then score a TD early in the 3rd to keep this game close.
The good news here for Reid lovers is, he’ll blame his bad luck and injuries at the end of the year for the shitty effort he and his players gave.
We all trash Castillo for his defense, but how much do you blame Zordich and Lynne for the back 7’s issues?
This team kills me, I could understand if the Pats were just beating us senseless but Jesus, at least make them make plays. Critical game too.
The question I have, is how many more games will this team win? Will they go 8-8 being highly medicore and get a medicore draft pick by playing slightly better in the meaningless games. Or willt hey continue to suck to let us get a decent pick, although driving me insane on game days? Playoffs are out. Heck even spoiler is out, not like we can ruin Dallas or the Giants season as they face each other two times.
The worst for me was the playcalling on the second FG. You need a TD and to run down the clock. McCoy already scored in the RZ and is the best offensive player. So naturally they call 3 straight passes.
I don’t care that DeSean dropped a TD pass. It would have still been dumb.
I fully agree. That was shitty play calling, but that isn’t new.
We need a turnover and Brady has been turning it over this year. But shocker we’d be the team that he wouldn’t do that agianst.
Patroits already about 2 first downs from going up 13. They just fucking murder us.
First down. First down. First down.
Already on the Eagles side of the field.
Brady now has 50% of the carries that LeSean McCoy has.
Anyone have that before the game? That Brady would have 50% of the carries that LeSean has?
FG range. Here comes a 17 point lead and the ball game.
Many, many problems with the is team.
TOMMY — can’t wait for the breakdown.
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I’m really starting to miss McNabb.
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SURGERY!!!
Hughes is getting picked on.
Anyone think this is a well coached team? Missed tackles. Playing way off on a team that loves to dump the ball sshort.
We’re out of our depths, here. Talent-wise, coaching-wise, performance-wise… Patriots are just a more well-equipped team than us. At least I don’t feel sick to my stomach losing to them like I did the Cardinals.
I hate losing but the only thing I’m thinking is “meh”. I wasn’t expecting a whole lot, though I would like to see the back 7 stop embarassing themselves.
I’m not sure they are that much more talented than us on a individual to individual basis. That said we have shit coaching and the players don’t step up.
Watch Brady, he just looks for who is playing off coverage and goes right at em.
The book on the Patriots is to play tight on the line of scrimmage and knock the receivers off their routes. Why are all of our guys playing off?
Juandamentals..
Because our DC is mildly retarded.
A 31-3 run by the Pats. Is this the NFL or Conference USA? Jesus.
Wanna see a great offensive game plan?
Watch New England.
Accuracy by the QB is more important than anything: Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Manning.
So . . . does RG III have that kind of accuracy?
Vick doesn’t. Young is scary.
Walk up and down the field. It’s like a pre season game. First team offense out against a second team defense. That’s what this game looks like. The Patriots are playing their starters and we’re playing our back-ups. Problem is these are our starters and this is a shitty job of getting them ready.
Well at least free agency was fun. Here’s to hoping we get good young guys in the draft!
They’ll draft a defensive lineman. Maybe a offensive lineman. It will be a meaningless pick that they’ll miss on ala Brandon Graham, Jermone McDougal, Shawn Andrews or Danny Watkins (who is going to turn 30 before his contract is up). We have shitty talent evaluators overall. They just like throwing a handful of drafts at the board to make themselves look good.
Wow. Hanson getting eaten alive by Welker.
I’ve never seen Avant do anything remotely like Welker.
Yes. Welker’s small and quick. Avant’s not.
That’s the POINT!
I’m pretty sure it’s a terrible idea, but I want nothing more than this whole coaching staff to be removed. I don’t care if we suck the next 10 years.. I just can’t believe the fat ass gets so much credit for being a good coach when it’s obvious we suck, and without JJ we really suck.
We’re Tommy. I’d love to know your thoughts on this teams effort and todays coaching job. They look unprepared, and don’t seem to care.
We just plaiyng for a pick now?
It seems like Hanson has been the guy on Welker most of the night. I don’t mind that game plan going in considering Hanson is our best slot corner, but 105 yds and two TDs later (which are not necessarily all on Hanson), shouldn’t the game plan be adjusted?
Doing the dumbest thing we could possibly do, switching into more zone coverage. Now Brady can just throw those timing routes that he nails all day every day. You have to press and try to throw off the timing of their recievers, how many times must he carve up zones before teams stop doing that?
This game isn’t very much fun anymore.
At least we have hot cheerleaders.
Would be nice if CBS would just show them for the next two hours. They have to be better at their jobs than our players and coaches.
They’re probably better at our coaches’ and players’ jobs than the players and coaches themselves.
This is what it looks like when players stick a fork in the season. I fully expect to get rolled by the Seahawks on Thursday.
I can barely even muster anger any more.
I truly didn’t think we’d be spending week 12 speculating about “next year.” Just inexcusable, with that much talent on the field. So frustrating.
As pointed out by another commenter . . .
New England hung 59 on the “wide 9” a couple/3 years ago
And Belichick NEVER takes his foot off the gas peddle.
Can’t wait to see the level of carnage
Give the ball to LeSean when the game is over. Way to go Morningweig and Fatass
Its extremely disheartening that my only ‘goal’ for this team now is to get Shady the rushing title. Everything else is a damn wash.
LB Tracy White — ex Eagle. Not only a great special teamer but a 3rd down LB
He’d look good in green.
But HOWIE found Mathews to fill that role.
Mathews . . . Casey Mathews . . . you remember.
Tommy,
How quickly do we sign Spags after he’s fired? Will he come here? Sometimes it seems like former assistants don’t want to return. I mean Rivera, Toub, Childress have been or are avaialble and none are here.
Harbor . . . nice catch.
FG looks good here.
So, not only the MNF crew on Monday… but now CBS today.
Why are we still giving pub to a guy convicted of sexual assault who went unpenalized like Edelman?
How does every commentator and blogger in the world know that you have to do press coverage on the pats receivers to kill their timing, but Juan is in zone?
This is one of those games that makes me feel like a bad fan, because at this point, even if they score here, I can’t enjoy it. Maybe they do somehow pull this one out–I’m alreayd so pissed right now about how they’re playing that I can’t imagine myself enjoying it. I’m putting up the Christmas tree now with the game on in the background. It’s like watching a loved one dye and feeling yourself disengage.
Re: Welker v. Hanson
I don’t care that Welker hangs numbers like there on most teams.
Take him OUT of the offense. Like Belichik would do.
I mean, who else does NE have for Brady to throw to? Tonight.
He’s been covered by a LB half the game giving him the under routes. No idea what Juan is doing.
What the fuck was Reid thinking? Seriously? Seriously? Defend him?
Why do you call that play on 4th down?
I was wrong, I care enough to say this: Terrible fucking play call.
Ahahaha. Vince Young.
l. o. l.
What a shitty play call.
You need a yard, you can’t trust LeSean to pick up a yard? Fuck lets cut LeSean obviously he sucks.
That play call sums up our season on 4th and 1
Reid should be fired tomorrow just for that 4th and 1 play call. Fuck everything else this year. AMong the worst decisions ever.
Allen should be benched. He is having an awful game.
And the defense makes a good tackle to hold em. Oh wait, I mean they miss a tackle and give up a 3rd down conversion.
Is Nate Allen a living being or does he just float around and sling ectoplasm at oncoming ballcarriers? My lord.
Nate Allen sure is garbage.
Fuck Reid, Fuck Juan. Fuck Marty. Fuck Jeff. Fuck Mike. Fuck Vince. Fuck DeSean. Fuck em all. They all suck. No talent bastards.
If this game were at the Vet — with the old fan base (the ones who could afford Tix) — the place would be rocking with BOOS
I think the slow, steady, downward trajectory of this season has taken the wind out of all of our sails. We can’t even find it in ourselves to heartily boo.
Hey we got good field position at least.
We should just put Kafka in and have him throw 38 passes. For shits and giggles.
I mean might as well let Mike get healthy until next year. Play Mike Kafka.
Well, at least we’ve been getting some pressure from the defensive line. You know, the one area of the defense that Juan Castillo is not responsible for.
Re: 4th Down play-action call.
Remember . . . Reid is SMARTER than everyone else.
Oh, that’s right. It’s Belichick on the other side. Someone who really is clearly smarter than Reid.
He’s smarter than everyone than Spagnola.
New episode of The Simpsons tonight.
DeSean Jackson, 5 dropped TD passes in his contract year.
Allen and Jackson having horrible games. Inexcusable.
The endzone: DeSean Jackson’s kryptonite.
DeSean must have lost that one in the lights too….
Does D-Jax even care that he’s dropped 2 TDs.
Seriously.
Whatever, man. It’s not like he’s being paid what he’s really worth. I honestly would not be surprised if that’s Rosenhaus’ pep talk to him after every drop.
For what it’s worth, does Julian Edelman tackle better than any of our LBs?
Against the #22 defense in DVOA rankings, this offense is on pace to score 17.3 points.
It’s not just the defense, folks.
Are you really going to defend the defense right now? I mean, seriously? Yea, the offense isn’t playing well, but there is no possible way to ignore 31 points.
I’m not going to defend the defense, it’s terrible.
I do think it’s worth mentioning that the Pats have the #2 offense in DVOA, but that doesn’t excuse today’s performance.
The offense isn’t just not playing well, they’re not playing well against a terrible, banged-up defense. They’re playing poorly against a team so hurt in the secondary that they’re playing a WR at CB. Yet they’ve scored 13 points and are 1-8 on 3rd down.
I’m not saying the offense is excused. They absolutely are having a horrible game, but even if the offense is having a great day, you don’t usually win games you give up 38 points.
We’re going to hear all this bullshit about how the Bellicheck pieced together this defense, blah blah blah, what a great job they did, blah blah blah, but in reality, they did NOTHING to stop us, we dropped everything we could, bad playing. We sucked, a better team would expose this fraud defense.
Belicheck, whatever
Still wrong.
Good for you, who gives a fuck
If only Cornelius Ingram hadn’t blown out his knee.
By the way, the Eagles drafted T’eo Nashim in Rd 3 when, wanting a TE, they passed on Gronkowski.
Save the 20-20 hindsight comments. The Eagles took the unsized Harbor in Rd 4 that year.
Harbor’s been pretty good, though he doesn’t have Brady throwing to him.
This is a 4 point game if DeSean Jackson doesn’t drop two balls in the end zone.
I cant remember the last season i was THIS unexcited about our team….maybe back before Buddy got here…
Yeah, this is pretty bad. Continuously putting an uncompetitive product on the field will have repercussions unless Lurie does something to right the ship. I don’t have any answers but “same old same old” doesn’t appear to be it.
Hey! Nate Allen DOES have arms!!
I didn’t realize till this game that Nate Allen sucks the big one.
Gronkowski is a special player. There is no denying that. I think I had him as my 14th or 15th ranked talent the year he came out, but he dropped because of the back injury he suffered during his Junior year at Zona.
Down 38-13 now. Ugly.
I’d say we should get a look at some young players, but we already are in a lot of places.
Tommy, watching Brady correct Branch on a miscommunicated route up 30 points makes me realize there isnt a single vocal leader on this team. Our stars want to whine about contracts, play time and not being wanted. We really miss guys like Trot, Dawkins, Runyan.
To me this game looks like: Professional Football Players vs. Talented Athletes.
Nate Allen is a waste of oxygen….stop stealing good peoples air
Plenty of time… Vince Young just wins.
I’ve got to do a better job putting the guys in a position to win…..times yours
That’s what he’ll say to us, but it isn’t what he’ll say to them.
So then are the players not listening or do they not care…hmmm
The question is whether what he says to either us or them ends up mattering. At this point, we’ve all heard the same shtick, and the players have all heard the same shtick. It looks like he’s lost the locker room again.
Its all well and good that Andy is a good guy but after so many dissapointing losses sometimes players need to be publicly but on blast maybe it will fire them up and make them feel like putting in some effort on the football field because what we have been doing so far this season is not working
Hey guys this movie called Star Wars A New Hope is on Spike TV. This tall golden robot really seems like a fag.
Can he coordinate a defense?
The small domed robot seems to hold his composure under pressure better.
Bill Belichick = Emperor Palpatine
Robert Kraft = Grand Moff Tarkin
Tom Brady = Anakin Skywalker
and…
Andy Reid = Jabba The Hutt. it writes itself.
I think that makes all Eagles fans “the younglings.”
Let D jax walk in the offseason
Best part of this game was the very audible “fire Andy” chant.
Sweet, they’re switching to Tebow in my area.
Wow, CBS gave the game the axe entirely. Merciful? I suppose. But I’m a glutton for punishment, I never turn a game off early. Damn.
Correction, THIS is what it looks like when a team sticks a fork in it.
apparently we dont need to see the end of the game either…
BB exposes Andy Reid every time these 2 teams play. Out-coached every time.
Arizona won so that draft pick gets worse. It may even eventually be a worse pick than the Eagles’ own 2nd rounder.
Dear god, thats a scary thought. I don’t even think that the most pessimistic of “Negadelphians” would’ve called that one prior to Week 1.
The Eagles need to lose more games. Otherwise, what’s the point of having a disaster of a season.
I’ll root for good plays..
But wins don’t matter anymore.
What matter is getting RG-III. Not an MLB. Not a SLB. Not a DT.
RG-III. (The guy was a near Olympic hurdler — despite the shotgun, he’ll be a top 5 pick.
He’s the closest thing to D-Mac in 10 years. (Cam Newtons’ in a class of his own)
Reid’ll be back next year. So will Marty. Give RG-III a year of tenderizing.
Then cut loose Vick and Go w/ RG-III.
Can’t say that I can argue with that.. but man, the Cards need to start losing games again for that 2nd round pick as well.
Boy our second team defense looks pretty bad against their second team offense. Wait a second…
I don’t see how Castillo possibly stays after this season, and frankly, AR has to go after this season as well. There is no excuse for how uninspired this team has played and how sloppy we continually have played all season. Despite having a quality history hear as the Eagles head coach, he should be held accountable for the way we have played throughout the year.
Another HOME loss for the Eagles.
Maybe if Laurie/Banner cut prices and get some of the more passionate — as opposed to the financially elite — fans back in the sands, the Eagles might win a home game again.
I’m afraid it may take more than that to turn around the attitude of the crowd in that stadium. I swear, sometimes I’m more embarrassed by the actions of the fans that I am the team. No I’m not talking about any of the “over the top ignorant” things that have been done. I am talking about not playing an active role in helping the team win. It’s gotten to the point that when we need a big defensive play, the fans are too busy waiting for the next chance to boo rather than disrupt the opposing offense. It’s freaking retarded, and gotten to the point that playing at home is a disadvantage. If Lurie wants to move the Eagles to LA I’m all for it. I love the Eagles and I want them to have the same kind of advantage the Saints and Seahawks have. It just ain’t right…
So do the players no longer listen to Andy or do they no longer care what he says?
Goodbye Juan. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!!
Just hope they don’t get crazy and win some games now. Let Nmamdi sit for a few weeks. Hughes and Marsh could use some time. No need to rush Vick back. Heck I would sit Lesean for a few weeks,
Just to make sure he doesn’t blow out a knee in a meaningless season. Oh and sit Juan too…just run a base 4-3 over/under like In Madden. It works for me!!
I can’t see how this team wins in Seattle in 4 days after this level of disinterest.
I’m glad to see Chad Hall getting some time. There’s an untapped wealth of talent with a huge future in the NFL.
This season was never about winning. It was about Banner and Andy teaching Desean a lesson.
Why is Chad Hall playing WR if VY is in?
If you’re going with the Practice Squad scrubs, put in the 3rd string QB – Kafka.
And where’s Jarrett at safety — give the guy some experience.
Hell, Watkins is playing.
My guess is Vick isn’t playing on Thursday (certainly shouldn’t now), so the idea is to give Young as many reps as possible.
400 yards of offense = 13 points?
It is when DeSean Jackson drops two passes in the end zone.
o right, i was busy trying to forget that.
We now have a conflict of interests: Coaches trying to save their jobs in a lost season.
The argument for waiting until the end of the season to fire Castillo and/or Reid no longer exists.
Young & Accuracy . . . joke. (Not that Young doesn’t occasionally hit one. But consistency? No way).
I still wanna beat WAS and DAL again. Every other game, might as well lose it for the sake of the pick. I wanna kick myself for saying that, but it is what it is. 6-10 would net us a nice pick.
For years we watched in dismay (at least until we knew how it would end) as the Redskins stocked up on “premium” free agents and then laughed during the season as it failed to come together for them. I’m hoping that it only happens to the Eagles this season and that they get it together in the off season, but man this is tough.
If anyone can defend Juan and DeSean right now I would like to hear it. I need a good laugh.
Had they paid Desean instead of guys like Smith and Brown he catches those balls. Not defending Desean but the FO clearly created this situation which has blown up in their face. At this point it may be irreconcilable. But make no mistake, the Eagles are a worse football team without Desean, and they obviously have too many holes to be able to afford another one.
Suck for RGIII!!!
And the stretch of non-Shady playcalls in the RZ continues.
How did Curtis Marsh perform in today’s game…since we drafted him and as I read preseason practice notes, I’ve always liked him. He seems like a big physical and fast corner than can press and/or run with the fast receivers. I recall a play in the RZ where he was on the outside and had a good jump on a throw by Brady and was part of an incompletion. Overall how has he done?
Hey, the Redskins won so we’re tied with them.
Thank god that’s over.
One guy who never quit was friggin’ Jason Avant. If anyone had to score the late TD, glad it was him.
DeSean Jackson should take a vow of silence until he goes a game without dropping mroe TDs than he catches.
Maybe DeSean will go all “Ricky Sapp” on us and just hang up the cleats.
Have to think the game was over when Reid called a pass on 4th and 1 in the redzone. Bad play call, should have run it no doubt. After that the Eagles didn’t really get any great chances. Also terrible defense this week, I know it’s Tom Brady but there should have been a better outing than this.
We were down for most of the game, but to me, 10 rushes for McCoy is inexcusable. McCoy is our best player, and both Maclin and Vick are out. AR falls into that hole way to often for me to listen to excuses for it. The defense was horrendous and ultimately, they lost the game for us (even if our offense was playing well, you don’t win games that you allow 38 points), but AR is where it all starts.
Also I still don’t think Reid is gone after the year, it’s easy to say now but at the end of the day Lurie has too much respect built up for Reid.
Why shouldn’t Banner’s “insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” apply to Reid?
Because in the past 5 full season he’s built up a winning record by beating losers . . . made a boatload of money for Lauie”
The only way to for Laurie’s hand is if the fans *REFUSE* to buy season tickets. And all the people on the waiting withdraw their names.
Like the folks in Congress (IMO) — Laurie and Banner are not only out of out of touch with the fans, they don’t give a damn what the fans think.
I thought this was a defense built to sustain leads? We were up 10-0 and ….??? There was outstanding pressure created by our Dline in the first quarter and then they just got malued throughout the rest of the game.
Honestly, I’ve never been so fed up with an Eagles team as this one. Jump to an early lead and it’s pass,pass,pass. Get inside the opposing team’s 5 yard line and it’s pass,pass,pass out of the shotgun for a Field Goal! I mean, does Andy even care anymore??? You have the leading rusher in the NFL and you opt not to let him touch the ball once when your team gets a fresh set of downs at the 5 yard line. I just don’t get Andy/Marty at all. And I’m usually very easy on Andy.
I don’t even know where to go with this post. I feel like I’ve exhausted myself enough discussing the multitude of things wrong with this football ‘team.’