Eagles & The Combine

Posted: February 26th, 2012 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 23 Comments »

Day 1 is in the books.  Here is my take on the OL/TE workouts.

There are some OL that Howard Mudd will like.  I’m leaving out players from the first couple of rounds.  Don’t see the Eagles going that high, unless a really good player somehow is on the board.

Nate Potter and Tom Compton are mid round OTs that could be of interest.

There were few interior guys to like as well.  Adam Gettis, Tony Bergstrom, and Desmond Wynn could be 3 players of interest.

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I don’t think the Eagles will target a TE.  Weak class.  You never know if Andy will fall in love with someone early.

I do think Ladarius Green is a player that the Eagles will have some long talks about.  6’6, 238.  Really more of a big WR than a TE.  Solid day.  Very interesting guy to try to mix into the offense, should they want a bigger guy from the draft.

James Hanna is a player that interests me late in the draft.  I’ve been watching OU recently.  Stood out in a couple of games.  Then he ran well in Indy and had some good moments as a receiver.

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Some DL/LB measurements of interest.

Luke Kuechly 6’3, 242

Lavonte David 6’1, 233  … up 8 pounds from the Senior Bowl

Shea McClellin  6’3, 260 … up 12 pounds.  Must be going for 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE.

Travis Lewis  6’1, 246 … listed at 229 this year.  Could be SAM or MLB target.

Zach Brown  6’1, 244 … not going for sleek, speedy build.

Dont’a Hightower  6’2, 255 … I just don’t see him as a 4-3 LB.  For those curious, Trotter ran 4.71 with no Combine prep in his day.

Danny Trevathan  6’0, 237

Fletcher Cox  6’4, 298

Jared Crick  6’4, 279

Chandler Jones 6’5, 266

Dontari Poe  6’4, 346

Derek Wolfe  6’5, 295

Jerel Worthy  6’2, 308

23 Comments on “Eagles & The Combine”

  1. 1 Scott_36 said at 12:36 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    I really like Kuechly but his arms came in surprisingly short today at only 31″. Does that affect how you view him or do you just have to refer to the tape to see that he can play?

  2. 2 JJ_Cake said at 1:03 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Is 31″ surprisingly short for a 6’3″ guy? Isn’t ~ 6’7″ Kalil 34″?

  3. 3 Scott_36 said at 3:16 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Well for comparison, one of the knocks on Casey was his short arms and his arm length is 31.5″ per nfl.com. I don’t think that 31 is a deal breaker since he was so good in college. Just a little concerned if it may affect his transition to the NFL where everyone is faster and stronger compared to college.

  4. 4 JJ_Cake said at 1:01 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Is there a typo on Poe? wouldn’t he be 6’4 346 lb, not 246 lb?

    Thanks for all the great coverage Tommy, can’t wait to see what you think about the defenders after tomorrow.

  5. 5 Liam Garrett said at 1:02 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Could Ladarius Green become a slot receiver? He’s from my alma mater, so I’ve been curious about him for a while. I think he ran a 4.53, today.

  6. 6 Mac said at 10:20 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Man, I would LOVE for Vick to have a big body target… I am afraid that the TE class is going to be massively overvalued after the years that Gronk, Hernandez, and Graham had though…

  7. 7 Baloophi said at 1:05 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Jeff Allen looked somewhat competent out there. Don’t know if he’s Mudd’s style or not…

  8. 8 austinfan said at 1:19 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Ladarius Green – great straight line speed, but check out his SS and cone, he’s a long legged guy who’ll struggle to get separation underneath b/c he’s not good at dropping his weight.

    James Hanna – incredible workout except for one thing, my hands, my hands. Wonder if he can play LB?

    Travis Lewis 6’1, 246 … listed at 229 this year. Could be SAM or MLB target.

    Wow, want to see him workout, that’s quite a jump

    Zach Brown 6’1, 244 … not going for sleek, speedy build.

    Same thing, he really bulked up

    Danny Trevathan 6’0, 237

    He also bulked up

    Jared Crick 6’4, 279

    He could drop out of the top 100, durability issues and now extremely undersized. Hmm. What team can find a role for an explosive undersized DT?

    Dontari Poe 6’4, 246

    Wow, lost a 100 lbs for the combine!

    Derek Wolfe 6’5, 295

    That’s actually decent size, he could move up a bit if he works out well.

  9. 9 Anthony Hart said at 4:10 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Tommy, do you think Zach Brown’s increase in weight gives him a better chance at being a SAM linebacker?

  10. 10 JRO91 said at 7:44 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    I was thinking the same thing…if the Eagles go FA for MLB, could they trade back for Zack in the first and put him in at SAM? Draft another OLB in the 3rd or 4th for competition for Rolle and depth.

  11. 11 nopain23 said at 9:00 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    If he runs a 4.3 4.4 40 and we sign a FA MLB..then I have no problem with the Iggles taking at 15….if no FA MLB…I want LK40..hoping he runs a sub 4.7 40….

  12. 12 Ben Hert said at 8:16 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    “4.3 4.4 40”

    This broke my eyeballs.

  13. 13 brza said at 6:16 AM on February 27th, 2012:

    Brown ran a sub-4.4 40 coming out of high school. Albeit he was a 205lb RB at that point in his career.

    I think he could run in the 4.5 range now though. And that could be enough to justify taking him at 15 (assuming we get our MLB in FA) don’t you think, Tommy? Tackling technique can be taught. Speed like that is rare, he’s great in coverage, he’s aggressive and his instincts and block shedding while not great aren’t bad either.

    If he runs in the 4.5 range we won’t be able to move down and still get him.

  14. 14 NoDecaf said at 5:52 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    How about Wisconsin offensive lineman Josh Oglesby with six knee surgeries since his senior year of high school? SIX!

  15. 15 JRO91 said at 7:46 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Must have the Eagles FO salavating!!!

  16. 16 austinfan said at 9:19 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Noticed you said nice things about Egnew, but did you notice both times he ran the gauntlet, the coaches were yelling at him to run faster b/c he was going at half speed? Strikes me as the type of athlete who’ll test faster than he’ll play, because he has to slow down to catch the ball.

  17. 17 brza said at 10:33 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Travis Lewis and Zach Brown’s added bulk sounds good. Hopefully they show that they didn’t sacrifice speed. Along with a FA MLB I’d be excited if the Birds could add Brown or Lewis as SAM.

    And wow, Stephen Hill ran an official 4.30 at 6’4″ 215. I wonder how much that will push his stock up and whether that will make him too high of a pick for the Eagles to take a chance on.

    And even though Joe Adams only ran a 4.44, I still like him as an option at slot and RS. He just gets it done on the field and is quicker than fast. I think he’ll show that in his short shuttle. His 40 may actually help keep him in the 3rd which would be huge value for us.

  18. 18 A_T_G said at 11:09 AM on February 26th, 2012:

    Under the LB/DL section you mentioned someone named Luke Kuechly, but did not have any notes on him. Is this a player you have an interest in?

    A corollary to the theory that TE will be overvalued because of last year may be that WR is undervalued because they are the other pass catchers and because there is a pretty strong FA class this year. Might be a good spot to find value and a spot where we could use some depth, at the minimum.

  19. 19 ACViking said at 12:43 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    Re: RG-III

    Here’s what some scouts had to say, anonymously, to the GB Packers beat reporter — some unbelievably negative stuff . . . HOLY CRAP:

    “Robert Griffin*, QB, Baylor: 6-2½, 223.

    [Here’s the good . . .

    “He’s phenomenal,” one scout said. “He’s going to need technique work and fundamentals. I have no problem about that. But you cannot lose the fact that he’s got feet, touch downfield with accuracy, a strong arm. He’s charismatic and smart as (expletive).” Played and started all four years, but had his ’09 season cut short by a knee injury requiring reconstructive surgery. Finished with an NFL passer rating of 110.1.

    [Here’s the bad and I mean holy-crap bad . . .

    “He cannot play quarterback,” another scout said. “He’s just running around winging it. He has no idea how to play quarterback. He’s got no vision. He’s got no accuracy. No touch. Anything you look for in an NFL quarterback, he doesn’t have it. You want him to run around and throw the ball and just keep running, he can do that. He’s (Michael) Vick, but not as good a thrower.”

    Here’s a link to the article (via MTC on PDN): http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/draft-outlook-es4aae2-140451293.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    The article covers the view of a few scouts on a number of players whom the Packers might want in Rd 1.

  20. 20 Arby1 said at 12:56 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    “He’s got no accuracy”? Without reading the link, it sounds like misinformation to me from a team that wants to see him drop.

  21. 21 ACViking said at 1:01 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    No argument there.

    But what struck me is how OVER THE TOP that comments were.

  22. 22 Liam Garrett said at 1:27 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    Georgia Tech WR, Stephen Hill, is putting up some serious numbers so far. He’s 6’4″, 215lbs. with a 33 3/8in. arm length, and he ran a 4.36 in the 40, and just registered a 39.5in. vertical jump and a 133in. broad jump.

  23. 23 Chris jones said at 9:40 PM on February 26th, 2012:

    Poe in not 246 prolly meant 346