Wow. wtf, was vick hallucinating? What was he doing!?!?!
20 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:21 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
i hope someone can explain this garbage play…. sheesh…
21 Baloophi said at 4:23 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
That will be an interesting diagnosis with the All-22. Looked like Avant was supposed to cross the field while slipping behind everyone… poor design.
22 T_S_O_P said at 4:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Loving the Tulsan
23 dropscience said at 4:29 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
What was that? 😉
24 Baloophi said at 4:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
1st and 10 – slow-developing bubble screen. 2nd and 21 – run. UGH.
25 Crus57 said at 4:26 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I think Andy/Marty need reminding that just because *they* find it surprising they are going to run on 2nd and 21 doesn’t mean the defense will. Don’t you have to hope that basically they miss 3+ tackles for a positive result on a 2nd and 21 run?
26ToastJenkins said at 4:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
that TE wham block only seems to work on Demarcus Ware…
27Corry Henry said at 4:23 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Arizona’s defensive game plan is to blitz the crap out of Vick.
49 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:36 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
there was a pretty nasty pick. granted, one guy on the offense managed to take three defenders out of the play. that shouldnt happen…
50 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:34 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
lucky break there. dropped at least a first down pass, maybe a TD.
51 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
and there goes the lucky break for them now. pass should have been picked and they get the TD instead. fuck.
52Corry Henry said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Why does it look like their receivers don’t have anyone around them for a good 5 yards?
53Andrew Moore said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Y’know, I could even take the fumbles. So long as we weren’t ALWAYS fumbling in the red zone. It’s absolutely brutal! We give away points every game.
54Corry Henry said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Yep. One of those games. Can’t even get a lucky bounce.
55 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Can’t say I like our chances down 10 nothing.
56ToastJenkins said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
know how I know we’re effed today?
57Andrew Moore said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Bounces off two defenders and lands into the waiting hands of the Cardinals receiver? Check.
58 ACViking said at 4:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Referee observation . . . they are NOT calling the OTs lined up off the LOS
59 TommyLawlor said at 4:37 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I noticed that earlier today in other games.
60 Baloophi said at 4:36 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Thanks Damaris!
61 TommyLawlor said at 4:37 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I really like DJ, but can’t have mistakes like that.
62 Baloophi said at 4:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Probably should’ve fair-caught to begin with. Then I think he’s a victim of his lack of speed. He’s quick, but not fast, so guys can catch him from behind…
63 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:40 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
in his defense, had he not fumbled, we would all be singing his name for making so much of a return when no one could block the first guy down the field…
64 Baloophi said at 4:41 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
True… BUT, he fumbled. So he is the worst human on the planet.
65 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:44 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
lol very true. he is the scum of the team until he can make amends!
66Andrew Moore said at 4:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
It’s infuriating that one could basically script the mistakes in an Eagles’ game before it starts.
67 ICDogg said at 4:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
sad start.
68Andrew Moore said at 4:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Over/Under three Eagles turnovers?
69 nicolajNN said at 4:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Now this is pretty much the kind of game I feared it would be
Is loving a team supposed to make you feel sick to your stomach?? My god I hate this…
95 ACViking said at 4:50 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Right now, the Cards are playing faster than the Eagles. And with more discipline.
Period.
96 Crus57 said at 4:50 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I see they forgot to ship Vick’s brain in with the rest of his luggage, again.
97 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:51 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This is not a playoff team. I don’t care if the defense is the 1991 Eagles or the 2000 Ravens. This team is careless. The penalities and the turnovers aren’t showing any improvement.
98Corry Henry said at 4:51 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
There was a lot of white shirts standing around staring at the ball rolling around on the field.
99 MichaelFloyd84 said at 4:51 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Same retarded shit as last year. This “team” is sloppy and not getting any better. Time for Foles, or to fire Reid altogether
100 Baloophi said at 4:52 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
HEY! Here comes a shallow cross to Fitzgerald!
101 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:53 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Anyone want to join me in the calls for Nick Foles? Trent Edwards? A street Free Agent QB? 8 turnovers is more than a number of QB’s will have this season, Vick has it in less than 2.5 games.
102 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:55 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
the biggest reason i would be ok with someone else in there at qb would be to see AR/MM call a better game. the offense without vick would be forced to be a more conservative offense.
103 ACViking said at 4:53 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
T-law:
Please address why MM/AR use Bryce Brown on passing downs.
104 nicolajNN said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
If Shady doesn’t get the ball in his hands it’s an opportunity to give him a rest. Just guessing it wouldn’t make any sense since Brown isn’t a good blocker nor receiver
105 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:02 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
i dont buy that answer. if this is the case, AR/MM would be telegraphing the play on the field before they even line up. bryce brown on the field would mean that there is a 90% chance of a running play since he can’t pass block or receive.
106 Josh said at 7:56 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Brown has good hands, good explosiveness
107Corry Henry said at 4:53 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
We’re getting dink and dunked to death by Kevin Freakin’ Kolb.
108 dropscience said at 4:55 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
The coaches just need to do a better job of putting players in a position to successfully take care of the ball.
Ugh.
109 ACViking said at 4:55 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Okay . . . has anyone asked yet if the Eagles should have kept Kolb over Vick?
Just asking.
110 Baloophi said at 4:56 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
The game keeps going as is and I’m sure Billick will start chortling those very words.
111Daniel said at 4:56 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Wait, why did we accept that holding call?
112 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:56 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
What the fuck? why take that penalty. It was a sack?
113Corry Henry said at 4:57 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I’m not sure that they did accept the penalty.
114Daniel said at 4:57 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Something is going on — Reid is bright pink.
115 Josh said at 7:57 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
lol
116 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:58 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Well I’ll take the free down, if they didn’t catch it. I think it is supposed to be 2nd and 24.
117Corry Henry said at 4:58 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Wait… isn’t it 2nd down? I mean I’ll take 3rd and 24, but…
118 ACViking said at 4:58 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
HOW. INCREDIBLY. STUPID. ARE. THESE. REFS?!?!?!?!
119 TheRogerPodacter said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
penalty accepted. no wait. declined. wait, whats that? they accepted it? well lets talk about it some more just to be sure.
120Corry Henry said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Alright, now I’m lost. Wtf?
121 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Wait, now we are taking the penalty?
122Corry Henry said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Holy shit they’re STILL talking!
123 Zachary Kaplan said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This is the most laughabale moment for the replacement refs…
124Daniel said at 4:59 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
It went from 2&20 to 3rd & 24 to 2nd and 26 on my screen.
125 ACViking said at 5:00 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
WHAT THE HELL IS GOIN’ ON OUT THERE?
126 T_S_O_P said at 5:01 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This was better last week when I had no sound and couldn’t listen to the ineptitude.
127David Roberts said at 5:01 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
watch the fake
128 ACViking said at 5:04 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
3rd & a mile . . . The Eagles still should play press.
Seems like whenever they play zone — as they did on that play to Fitz — Nnamdi’s side gets exploited.
I don’t what the stats show. Just seems that way.
129Corry Henry said at 5:06 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
They should press anyways. Arizona isn’t doing anything down field. Make Kolb double clutch and give the pass rush a chance to get there.
130 Baloophi said at 5:05 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Question: Why don’t we start running short crossing routes rather than 22 step drop-backs?
131 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:07 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
seriously, i wonder if it has something to do with the line we usually hear – vick is too short and can’t see over the offensive line. it must be even worse in this game since AZ has such a big DL.
132Corry Henry said at 5:07 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Because throwing the ball way downfield on slow developing routes when the blitz is coming is the way we win….wait…
133 MichaelFloyd84 said at 5:07 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Because Vick is 6 foot even, can’t see through his O lineman and gets every short pass tipped at the line.
134 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:06 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
jesus christ. vick just can’t do anything. either throw the ball or run with it. i dont care anymore. just make a decision at this point
135Daniel said at 5:06 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Yes, grabbing onto the jersey so he can’t run. very incidental contact
136 T_S_O_P said at 5:07 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Our D needs to score
137 Arby1 said at 5:09 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
And then kick a field goal.
138 Baloophi said at 5:10 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Nice…
139 TommyLawlor said at 5:10 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Sure feels that way
140 nicolajNN said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Our D also needs to stop their O
141 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:08 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Seriously McNabb was benched for Kolb for less. I don’t care about the 2-0 record. Vick looks like garbage. He has 0 awareness. He’s careless with the football. And he can’t handle pressure. He’s not a QB that should continue to get chances 100 millions dollars or not.
I hope Reid realizes that his going to lose his job because he once again stuck with a QB that didn’t get it.
142Corry Henry said at 5:08 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This is frustrating.
143 ACViking said at 5:10 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I asked earlier why MM/AR put B-Brown in on passing plays.
After watching McCoy do a really bad job trying to pass-block on D-Wash, I understand.
144 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
yea, that was pretty pathetic, right? but i felt he got just enough of the guy to give vick time to get rid of the ball. but then he didnt do that…
145 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:10 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
ray finkle missed the kick. dolphins lost. : (
146Corry Henry said at 5:10 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Arizona could probably run out the clock at this point. Our Offense is doing nothing.
147 teltschikfakeout88 said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Jeff king is ancient and we got burned
148Daniel said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Seriously. I thought that was the ancient punter when I saw his face
149 Baloophi said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Did we accidentally bring last year’s defense on the plane?
150Daniel said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
It’s the ghosts of Dmitri Patterson and JaiJar all over
151 TommyLawlor said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
God, it sure feels like it.
152David Roberts said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
um
153Corry Henry said at 5:11 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Hey, that number 11 guy is pretty good, MAYBE WE SHOULD COVER HIM!
154 DamonL86 said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Nice coverage
155 MichaelFloyd84 said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Anybody else half expect this? I sure did. Every fuckin year we used to get these. Now its every fucking game. I’m done with Andy/Vick
156 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
nnamdi just decided he didnt want to cover fitz anymore on that play. wtf happened there?
157Corry Henry said at 5:13 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I think he was expecting help over the top, but Allen got sucked up by the Play Action and wasn’t there. That’s my guess…
158 JRO91 said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
this team is gonna be 2-3 real fast!! Steelers and Giants will hand them their ass.
159 ACViking said at 5:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Nnamdi. What can you say.
160 DamonL86 said at 5:13 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
we are helping Kolb get his starting job back for good
161 T_S_O_P said at 5:14 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
A long term view of eliminating the cards from the playoffs
173 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:20 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
well seeing as how the whole offense thought it was 4th down, the play might have just been some sort of default play…
174Corry Henry said at 5:19 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Is Arizona THAT good or is our play calling just that freaking terrible?
175 T_S_O_P said at 5:19 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Marty is a fukwit
176 TommyLawlor said at 5:21 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I’m guessing that isn’t a British compliment.
177 Baloophi said at 5:19 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Henry’s first 18 punts today have been strong… so there’s that.
178Corry Henry said at 5:19 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Can he play quarterback?
179 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:19 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
3/10 for 58 yards. if i hadn’t watched the game, i would have assume we were just throwing the ball 50 yards downfield on each play.
180 ACViking said at 5:20 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Let’s go Flyers . . . . Let’s go Flyers . . . .
Kidding. One Turnover. One TD. Eagles back in the game.
181 ACViking said at 5:21 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
T-Law:
I’m curious.
What are the Cards doing today that’s making Kolb look so good?
182Corry Henry said at 5:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
They got him Larry Fitzgerald.
183 Baloophi said at 5:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Boykin on Fitzgerald, that’s a good matchup.
184 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
i dont understand why boykin is the guy covering fitz. i think he’s played pretty well for a rookie, but i can’t expect him to take on fitz 1 on 1…
185Corry Henry said at 5:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Good news, Cox is in the game.
186Kanin Faan said at 5:22 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Some people hate 4 o’clock games, I hate Marty Mornhinweg. Im calling out the plays beforehand from the other side of the planet. No wonder the cardinals defense isnt fooled/surprised/whatever. Sigh…
go eagles!
187 Baloophi said at 5:23 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Tough to swallow the “I got a sack dance!” when you’re down 17-0 against the Cardinals.
188 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:24 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
graham tapp and thornton all meet at the qb
189 ACViking said at 5:24 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I like the Cards’ game plan.
They run the ball on 1st down. No matter what.
Then they let Kolb take what’s there on 2nd down
190 Baloophi said at 5:24 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Then they hang back and let our offense implode.
191 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:25 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Gotta love Reid’s faith. If it sucks…lets keep it up…until it doesn’t.
192 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:25 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Woot 4 yards!
193 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:26 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Think we can get Ray Horton from Arizona next year?
195Kanin Faan said at 5:26 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
when was the last time vick completed a quick slant for 6-7yrds? or is that play to simple for our offense?
196 ACViking said at 5:28 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
T-Law:
No need to say anything to introduce the 2nd-half thread except, “Go Eagles.”
197 TommyLawlor said at 5:28 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This half has been close to a disaster. Let’s get out down 17 and hope for a big 2nd half.
198 nicolajNN said at 5:29 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
1st DOWN!!!!o
199 ACViking said at 5:29 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Eagles’ O-line is a problem.
But the Cards are good.
200 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:30 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I think we should start to defer to start the game. We lose field position, because our Offense sucks to start games, and then when we start to get it going, we just have to kick it back to them.
201 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:32 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
our D didnt exactly start off this game on fire, either, though. they did at least hold them to 3 pts. i guess that was good.
202 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:32 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Few of us might get our Foles wish.
203Scott Buchanan said at 5:32 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Can’t happen soon enuff
204Corry Henry said at 5:32 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Ouch, Washington just Kolbed Vick by driving his head into the ground.
205ToastJenkins said at 5:32 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
need a TD in the worst way here…
206ToastJenkins said at 5:33 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
way to duck and cover, DeSean….ugh
207Corry Henry said at 5:34 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Good decision by Vick there.
208ToastJenkins said at 5:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
welp, there’s he ball game. great job, Vick
209Corry Henry said at 5:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Game is over.
210 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
holy. fucking. shit. this is probably the biggest disaster of a first half that i could have possibly imagined.
211 nicolajNN said at 5:35 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Wow
212 DamonL86 said at 5:36 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This is a joke nice awareness
213 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:36 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
If the hit didn’t take Vick out of the game, Reid should pull him. He’s not a QB. How does he consistently hold the ball forever?
Seriously Tommy? Seriously you gonna argue for Vick over….anyone?
214 iskar36 said at 5:36 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Bring in Foles.
215ToastJenkins said at 5:37 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
how do you not let the ball go there on the 3 step drop? moronic situational awareness yet again by Vick
216Scott Buchanan said at 5:37 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Cant start the Foles era fast enuff…
217 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
And just for numbers sake….12 Turnovers in 12 quarters. On pace for 96 turnovers in the year? That’d be a record I think. Crappy players. Crappy coaches. This team is a FRAUD.
218 guitardreamer131 said at 5:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Holy F…this is bad…is there any way possible we can win now?!
219 Baloophi said at 5:38 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Reid can always use the “concussion” excuse to start Foles. This game is a complete wash anyways. Might as well see what you have in Foles. Anyway, glad I carved out my afternoon for this crap!
220Corry Henry said at 5:39 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
First of all, Vick is terrible today. Secondly, the play calling isn’t really helping him out. 3rd GOD DAMMIT I HATE THIS STUPID GAME WHY DO I WATCH EVERY WEEKEND?!
221 saltyyambag said at 5:39 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
holy ineptitude by vick this game. that being said, how does desean not score on that pass.
222 Baloophi said at 5:41 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Because he weighs 135 pounds.
223 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 5:39 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Same ole Vick. No pocket presence
224 Crus57 said at 5:40 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Having seen the Eagles do something similar vs the Giants a few years back (only that was a blocked FG for a long TD), I kinda expected that to happen. The Cards have had all the luck so far, and the refs are atrocious (though equally bad to both teams).
225Andrew Moore said at 5:41 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
That last play had absolutely nothing to do with Vick. Reid has no business making that play call. Since when has Vick EVER been a lightning-quick trigger guy. He takes way too long to throw the ball under the best of circumstances. Unless the game is on the line, you’re not making that play call. Andy just invited disaster on that play. Take the 3 pts. Cut the lead to something reasonable and live to play in the second half. Instead he basically handed the game to the Cards.
226 ACViking said at 5:41 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
No one wants to hear this . . . it’s 1 game.
Yes, we’ve seen the same T.O. problems. And, yes, Vick’s been at best inconsistent.
But it’s just 1 game.
We’ll know more in 3 weeks.
If the Eagles are 2-3 . . . and a “bad” 2-3, then some serious re-evaluation is in order.
Even so, until the playoff picture is clear 7-8 weeks from now . . . this is JUST 1 GAME
227Andrew Moore said at 5:43 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
The frustrating thing is that this team has so much talent and the potential to be so good, if they could just cut out the turnovers. They aren’t physically overmatched. The mistakes they make are idiot mistakes – ball security. If they could cut those mistakes by HALF we’d be nearly unbeatable.
228 Baloophi said at 5:44 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I think – for me, at least – it’s not so much “one game” as it is the inconsistency from Reid over the years. He knows what the problems are (or at least says he does), then comes out and lays an absolute egg with an unprepared, over-matched team. We’ve seen this many times before (to your point), but I know I’m getting tired of seeing it.
229 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:44 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
i really want to side with your optimism, but its pretty hard right now.
i’m ok with the defense, aside from a couple of plays. theyve shown to be pretty solid this season.
but the offense? all that they have shown they can do this year is turn the ball over.
230Andrew Moore said at 5:45 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Also, at 2-0 there was the chance (just the chance!) that this season could have been a little different. Instead, based on the way we’ve played through 10 quarters we’ll be 2-2 at the quarter-pole. Come December we’ll be scratching and clawing our way to a 9-7 finish trying desperately to get the last wild card spot. I know I’m over-reacting, but I’m furious right now!
231 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 5:46 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
the reason why 1 game matters is because all of same problems Vick has always had are still there. He’ll never win the big one. You have to string together at least 3 big time games consecutively to win a SB. Do you have any faith that Vick could do that? Not in my book.
232Daniel said at 5:46 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
This is 19 games. Same problems, over and over.
233 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:49 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
by the way, just one game would have gotten us into the playoffs and won the division last year ; )
234 ACViking said at 5:43 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
The stop of D-Jax at the 1 yard line is why it would really nice if the Eagles had a 6’2″ 220 lb WR.
But next draft is all about the O-line.
235 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:44 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
5 TO’s 3 TO’s At least 3 TO’s…
This isn’t one game. This is dumb play. Poor awareness. Stupid mistakes. Bad penalties. This isn’t a 1 game issue. This is a 19 game issue. This is a 2 season issue. The coaches are overrated. The players are overrated. The Team is overrated. I don’t care if they go 13-0 after this game. This team is a FRAUD. They’ll pick up a ton of yards here in the 2nd half, but it’ll be meaningless.
236 Baloophi said at 5:45 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I disagree. I don’t think they’ll pick up a ton of yards in the 2nd half.
237 TheRogerPodacter said at 5:48 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
wasnt there more than 3 TOs vs the ravens? i dont remember. 2 INT, i remember at least 1 fumble. i thought there was another one.
238 ACViking said at 5:46 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
McNabb’s problem was throwing the ball short of the goal line on the last play of the half.
Vick’s problem is a slow trigger w/ a bad O-lien.
Kolb’s problem was throwing Pick-6s.
So . . . Foles?
239 Zachary Kaplan said at 5:47 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I can tell you this much. McNabb isn’t winning a Super Bowl. VIck has zero shot at a Super Bowl. Kolb, Foles are at least unknowns. The previous two just had terrible situational and pocket awareness at times. You can’t win 3 in a row against good teams if you can’t recognize situations.
240 ACViking said at 5:48 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Counter-point:
It’s just one game.
But for 3 weeks we’ve seen the same problems.
And w/ the O-line injuries . . . it could get worse.
241 Baloophi said at 5:48 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
You have 6 seconds left on 3rd and goal and no timeouts, why would you think you could hold it for 4 seconds????
242 phillychuck said at 5:48 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
That last play is just inexcusable. How can you not throw the ball away?
Run the ball all second half. See if you can pound it just to find out whether you have the skill as a team to do it. Their running game doesn’t look smooth this year, so take advantage of the opportunity to try it live.
243 iskar36 said at 5:48 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
At this point, regardless of how you feel about Foles, Vick needs to be benched and force him to think about this game. I don’t care if they bring him back next week, but for now, he needs to be sat.
244Daniel said at 5:49 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
I really want to watch coach’s tape and see if the receivers are getting any separation whatsoever.
245 Arby1 said at 5:51 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
How about a run with 25 seconds from the 1 yd line and timeouts remaining?
246 A_T_G said at 5:53 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
If you mean us, we didn’t have any TOs
247 Arby1 said at 6:12 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Details, details…
248Scott Buchanan said at 5:56 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
In Foles we trust..
249 teltschikfakeout88 said at 6:24 PM on September 23rd, 2012:
Why no harbor no McCoy in the passing game. We blow
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I hate 4 o’clock games. I actually had to watch the Redskins. Ugh.
At least you didn’t get the jets dolphins game like me 😐
LETS GO BIRDS!
Offense didn’t look good on that series.
our d is letting the cards offense look pretty good right now.
Arizona looks really amped up to start the game.
We will get a grip…
lol patrick peterson?
so looking like 60 passes and 8 runs today…
I hope not, the last time we beat them we gave the a healthy dose of Brian Westbrook, but history teaches us that you are indeed probably right.
Not ideal, but only gave up a FG. Time for the offense to get going.
Missed the first eagles series. Was the oline a problem?
Looks like Arizona wants the ball out of Kolb’s hands as fast as possible…which I can’t say I blame them.
Holy fucking hell why is the game blacked out on my Sunday ticket?
national broadcast – go to fox
fucking hell I dont get fox.
McCoy guilty of lateral dancing on that screen (almost got stripped).
throw it away, stupid….
Wow. wtf, was vick hallucinating? What was he doing!?!?!
i hope someone can explain this garbage play…. sheesh…
That will be an interesting diagnosis with the All-22. Looked like Avant was supposed to cross the field while slipping behind everyone… poor design.
Loving the Tulsan
What was that? 😉
1st and 10 – slow-developing bubble screen. 2nd and 21 – run. UGH.
I think Andy/Marty need reminding that just because *they* find it surprising they are going to run on 2nd and 21 doesn’t mean the defense will. Don’t you have to hope that basically they miss 3+ tackles for a positive result on a 2nd and 21 run?
that TE wham block only seems to work on Demarcus Ware…
Arizona’s defensive game plan is to blitz the crap out of Vick.
And excellent tackle by Phillip Hunt on STs.
What an AWFUL offense
Well, at least Henry remembered how to punt
Sad that he’s already tried twice!
Good Henry this week it seems. We are going to need that.
landri with the TFL
is DRC elite?
ugh. special teams fail.
…ugh…
This game is starting to get that kind of feel…
isn’t it though?
yeah…I can feel the city of Philadelphia collective face palming.
Everyone on this team wants to be a hero. Need to end the big play mentality.
Hatin’ the Tulsan.
so much for that, i guess. lol
I cannot believe this shit…
Our Defense better score. I don’t trust our offense. And are you serious? 10 turnovers in 11 quarters?
This game already has the feel — at Cards 3, Eagles 0 — as one of those 55 called passes, 10 called runs.
Can’t quite get to Kolb with these quick routes. Defensive line has to start getting there a step faster.
And getting their hands up.
4 years and the Eagles still can’t stop Fitzgerald running a shallow crossing pattern
was a really obvious pick on ryans
there was a pretty nasty pick. granted, one guy on the offense managed to take three defenders out of the play. that shouldnt happen…
lucky break there. dropped at least a first down pass, maybe a TD.
and there goes the lucky break for them now. pass should have been picked and they get the TD instead. fuck.
Why does it look like their receivers don’t have anyone around them for a good 5 yards?
Y’know, I could even take the fumbles. So long as we weren’t ALWAYS fumbling in the red zone. It’s absolutely brutal! We give away points every game.
Yep. One of those games. Can’t even get a lucky bounce.
Can’t say I like our chances down 10 nothing.
know how I know we’re effed today?
Bounces off two defenders and lands into the waiting hands of the Cardinals receiver? Check.
Referee observation . . . they are NOT calling the OTs lined up off the LOS
I noticed that earlier today in other games.
Thanks Damaris!
I really like DJ, but can’t have mistakes like that.
Probably should’ve fair-caught to begin with. Then I think he’s a victim of his lack of speed. He’s quick, but not fast, so guys can catch him from behind…
in his defense, had he not fumbled, we would all be singing his name for making so much of a return when no one could block the first guy down the field…
True… BUT, he fumbled. So he is the worst human on the planet.
lol very true. he is the scum of the team until he can make amends!
It’s infuriating that one could basically script the mistakes in an Eagles’ game before it starts.
sad start.
Over/Under three Eagles turnovers?
Now this is pretty much the kind of game I feared it would be
where only one Q in, and I feel sick to my stomach
Time for AR/MM to start calling pass plays on every down.
Oh, they’ve been doing that already.
Really, though, with the turnover infection that the Eagles have, does it matter?
yea, it doesnt seem to matter who has the ball.
Every one wants to be a hero and have a huge play — no one is playing smart football. No one can be trusted on this team as a go to person.
essential they dont panic with the playcalling. tons of game left
god i love brent celek. haha
cox is out of the game with a migraine?
T-Law:
The TD by Floyd looked like it was slightly tipped at the LOS by the a DL.
That actually may have benefited the Cards. Instead of the ball hitting Ryans’ hands, it went between his arms and in the air.
That said . . . why didn’t Rogers-Cromarties H-I-T the receiver, rather than mosey past him as the ball floated in the air.
15:00 on the clock in the 2nd quarter. We’ve already spent a timeout and been called for a penalty.
only we can get so much done in so little time.
Straight trash homey
10th quarter of the season? must be time for the next turnover.
That’s a fumble!
God Vick sucks. Can’t we just admit it already and move on to Foles?
I just don’t get why MM puts Brown in on passing plays.
Deception. Deception. Deception.
Never mind. Over/Under 6 Eagles turnovers today?
This has the same feel as our Chicago loss every freaking year. The other team looks horrible, and we just look like we’re in outer space.
Don’t worry, everybody. Andy Reid will take a look at the turnover issue next week.
OH MY GOD!!!!!
Good to see they fixed the turnover problem
Tommy wanted a argument for Nick Foles?
How about 8 turnovers in 11.1 quarters? How many non-Super Bowl winning QB’s, who missed hte playoffs last year, would keep their job at that pace?
I’m speechless.
This belongs to the Cards
Is loving a team supposed to make you feel sick to your stomach?? My god I hate this…
Right now, the Cards are playing faster than the Eagles. And with more discipline.
Period.
I see they forgot to ship Vick’s brain in with the rest of his luggage, again.
This is not a playoff team. I don’t care if the defense is the 1991 Eagles or the 2000 Ravens. This team is careless. The penalities and the turnovers aren’t showing any improvement.
There was a lot of white shirts standing around staring at the ball rolling around on the field.
Same retarded shit as last year. This “team” is sloppy and not getting any better. Time for Foles, or to fire Reid altogether
HEY! Here comes a shallow cross to Fitzgerald!
Anyone want to join me in the calls for Nick Foles? Trent Edwards? A street Free Agent QB? 8 turnovers is more than a number of QB’s will have this season, Vick has it in less than 2.5 games.
the biggest reason i would be ok with someone else in there at qb would be to see AR/MM call a better game. the offense without vick would be forced to be a more conservative offense.
T-law:
Please address why MM/AR use Bryce Brown on passing downs.
If Shady doesn’t get the ball in his hands it’s an opportunity to give him a rest. Just guessing it wouldn’t make any sense since Brown isn’t a good blocker nor receiver
i dont buy that answer. if this is the case, AR/MM would be telegraphing the play on the field before they even line up. bryce brown on the field would mean that there is a 90% chance of a running play since he can’t pass block or receive.
Brown has good hands, good explosiveness
We’re getting dink and dunked to death by Kevin Freakin’ Kolb.
The coaches just need to do a better job of putting players in a position to successfully take care of the ball.
Ugh.
Okay . . . has anyone asked yet if the Eagles should have kept Kolb over Vick?
Just asking.
The game keeps going as is and I’m sure Billick will start chortling those very words.
Wait, why did we accept that holding call?
What the fuck? why take that penalty. It was a sack?
I’m not sure that they did accept the penalty.
Something is going on — Reid is bright pink.
lol
Well I’ll take the free down, if they didn’t catch it. I think it is supposed to be 2nd and 24.
Wait… isn’t it 2nd down? I mean I’ll take 3rd and 24, but…
HOW. INCREDIBLY. STUPID. ARE. THESE. REFS?!?!?!?!
penalty accepted. no wait. declined. wait, whats that? they accepted it? well lets talk about it some more just to be sure.
Alright, now I’m lost. Wtf?
Wait, now we are taking the penalty?
Holy shit they’re STILL talking!
This is the most laughabale moment for the replacement refs…
It went from 2&20 to 3rd & 24 to 2nd and 26 on my screen.
WHAT THE HELL IS GOIN’ ON OUT THERE?
This was better last week when I had no sound and couldn’t listen to the ineptitude.
watch the fake
3rd & a mile . . . The Eagles still should play press.
Seems like whenever they play zone — as they did on that play to Fitz — Nnamdi’s side gets exploited.
I don’t what the stats show. Just seems that way.
They should press anyways. Arizona isn’t doing anything down field. Make Kolb double clutch and give the pass rush a chance to get there.
Question: Why don’t we start running short crossing routes rather than 22 step drop-backs?
seriously, i wonder if it has something to do with the line we usually hear – vick is too short and can’t see over the offensive line. it must be even worse in this game since AZ has such a big DL.
Because throwing the ball way downfield on slow developing routes when the blitz is coming is the way we win….wait…
Because Vick is 6 foot even, can’t see through his O lineman and gets every short pass tipped at the line.
jesus christ. vick just can’t do anything. either throw the ball or run with it. i dont care anymore. just make a decision at this point
Yes, grabbing onto the jersey so he can’t run. very incidental contact
Our D needs to score
And then kick a field goal.
Nice…
Sure feels that way
Our D also needs to stop their O
Seriously McNabb was benched for Kolb for less. I don’t care about the 2-0 record. Vick looks like garbage. He has 0 awareness. He’s careless with the football. And he can’t handle pressure. He’s not a QB that should continue to get chances 100 millions dollars or not.
I hope Reid realizes that his going to lose his job because he once again stuck with a QB that didn’t get it.
This is frustrating.
I asked earlier why MM/AR put B-Brown in on passing plays.
After watching McCoy do a really bad job trying to pass-block on D-Wash, I understand.
yea, that was pretty pathetic, right? but i felt he got just enough of the guy to give vick time to get rid of the ball. but then he didnt do that…
ray finkle missed the kick. dolphins lost. : (
Arizona could probably run out the clock at this point. Our Offense is doing nothing.
Jeff king is ancient and we got burned
Seriously. I thought that was the ancient punter when I saw his face
Did we accidentally bring last year’s defense on the plane?
It’s the ghosts of Dmitri Patterson and JaiJar all over
God, it sure feels like it.
um
Hey, that number 11 guy is pretty good, MAYBE WE SHOULD COVER HIM!
Nice coverage
Anybody else half expect this? I sure did. Every fuckin year we used to get these. Now its every fucking game. I’m done with Andy/Vick
nnamdi just decided he didnt want to cover fitz anymore on that play. wtf happened there?
I think he was expecting help over the top, but Allen got sucked up by the Play Action and wasn’t there. That’s my guess…
this team is gonna be 2-3 real fast!! Steelers and Giants will hand them their ass.
Nnamdi. What can you say.
we are helping Kolb get his starting job back for good
A long term view of eliminating the cards from the playoffs
he was suppose to have safety help
If Rhodes is available next April, I’d draft him and cut Nnamdi
Nnamdi glanced immediately at Nate Allen.
Was there supposed to be a man-zone combo with Allen in center field?
Judging by the discussion on the side line Fox just showed, I’d say Nnamdi was expecting help over the top.
Can we bench Vick yet?
Crappy plays
How much confidence is there in the “Comeback” kid?
vick wants to get celek killed. jeez.
CHRIS POLK is now playing!
Or maybe that was Havili. Hard to tell on the computer
GREAT call on 3rd and 20. I guess Andy has given up already?
we’re getting manhandled at the line of scrimmage
well seeing as how the whole offense thought it was 4th down, the play might have just been some sort of default play…
Is Arizona THAT good or is our play calling just that freaking terrible?
Marty is a fukwit
I’m guessing that isn’t a British compliment.
Henry’s first 18 punts today have been strong… so there’s that.
Can he play quarterback?
3/10 for 58 yards. if i hadn’t watched the game, i would have assume we were just throwing the ball 50 yards downfield on each play.
Let’s go Flyers . . . . Let’s go Flyers . . . .
Kidding. One Turnover. One TD. Eagles back in the game.
T-Law:
I’m curious.
What are the Cards doing today that’s making Kolb look so good?
They got him Larry Fitzgerald.
Boykin on Fitzgerald, that’s a good matchup.
i dont understand why boykin is the guy covering fitz. i think he’s played pretty well for a rookie, but i can’t expect him to take on fitz 1 on 1…
Good news, Cox is in the game.
Some people hate 4 o’clock games, I hate Marty Mornhinweg. Im calling out the plays beforehand from the other side of the planet.
No wonder the cardinals defense isnt fooled/surprised/whatever.
Sigh…
go eagles!
Tough to swallow the “I got a sack dance!” when you’re down 17-0 against the Cardinals.
graham tapp and thornton all meet at the qb
I like the Cards’ game plan.
They run the ball on 1st down. No matter what.
Then they let Kolb take what’s there on 2nd down
Then they hang back and let our offense implode.
Gotta love Reid’s faith. If it sucks…lets keep it up…until it doesn’t.
Woot 4 yards!
Think we can get Ray Horton from Arizona next year?
for DC or HC?
when was the last time vick completed a quick slant for 6-7yrds?
or is that play to simple for our offense?
T-Law:
No need to say anything to introduce the 2nd-half thread except, “Go Eagles.”
This half has been close to a disaster. Let’s get out down 17 and hope for a big 2nd half.
1st DOWN!!!!o
Eagles’ O-line is a problem.
But the Cards are good.
I think we should start to defer to start the game. We lose field position, because our Offense sucks to start games, and then when we start to get it going, we just have to kick it back to them.
our D didnt exactly start off this game on fire, either, though. they did at least hold them to 3 pts. i guess that was good.
Few of us might get our Foles wish.
Can’t happen soon enuff
Ouch, Washington just Kolbed Vick by driving his head into the ground.
need a TD in the worst way here…
way to duck and cover, DeSean….ugh
Good decision by Vick there.
welp, there’s he ball game. great job, Vick
Game is over.
holy. fucking. shit.
this is probably the biggest disaster of a first half that i could have possibly imagined.
Wow
This is a joke nice awareness
If the hit didn’t take Vick out of the game, Reid should pull him. He’s not a QB. How does he consistently hold the ball forever?
Seriously Tommy? Seriously you gonna argue for Vick over….anyone?
Bring in Foles.
how do you not let the ball go there on the 3 step drop? moronic situational awareness yet again by Vick
Cant start the Foles era fast enuff…
And just for numbers sake….12 Turnovers in 12 quarters. On pace for 96 turnovers in the year? That’d be a record I think. Crappy players. Crappy coaches. This team is a FRAUD.
Holy F…this is bad…is there any way possible we can win now?!
Reid can always use the “concussion” excuse to start Foles. This game is a complete wash anyways. Might as well see what you have in Foles. Anyway, glad I carved out my afternoon for this crap!
First of all, Vick is terrible today. Secondly, the play calling isn’t really helping him out. 3rd GOD DAMMIT I HATE THIS STUPID GAME WHY DO I WATCH EVERY WEEKEND?!
holy ineptitude by vick this game. that being said, how does desean not score on that pass.
Because he weighs 135 pounds.
Same ole Vick. No pocket presence
Having seen the Eagles do something similar vs the Giants a few years back (only that was a blocked FG for a long TD), I kinda expected that to happen. The Cards have had all the luck so far, and the refs are atrocious (though equally bad to both teams).
That last play had absolutely nothing to do with Vick. Reid has no business making that play call. Since when has Vick EVER been a lightning-quick trigger guy. He takes way too long to throw the ball under the best of circumstances. Unless the game is on the line, you’re not making that play call. Andy just invited disaster on that play. Take the 3 pts. Cut the lead to something reasonable and live to play in the second half. Instead he basically handed the game to the Cards.
No one wants to hear this . . . it’s 1 game.
Yes, we’ve seen the same T.O. problems. And, yes, Vick’s been at best inconsistent.
But it’s just 1 game.
We’ll know more in 3 weeks.
If the Eagles are 2-3 . . . and a “bad” 2-3, then some serious re-evaluation is in order.
Even so, until the playoff picture is clear 7-8 weeks from now . . . this is JUST 1 GAME
The frustrating thing is that this team has so much talent and the potential to be so good, if they could just cut out the turnovers. They aren’t physically overmatched. The mistakes they make are idiot mistakes – ball security. If they could cut those mistakes by HALF we’d be nearly unbeatable.
I think – for me, at least – it’s not so much “one game” as it is the inconsistency from Reid over the years. He knows what the problems are (or at least says he does), then comes out and lays an absolute egg with an unprepared, over-matched team. We’ve seen this many times before (to your point), but I know I’m getting tired of seeing it.
i really want to side with your optimism, but its pretty hard right now.
i’m ok with the defense, aside from a couple of plays. theyve shown to be pretty solid this season.
but the offense? all that they have shown they can do this year is turn the ball over.
Also, at 2-0 there was the chance (just the chance!) that this season could have been a little different. Instead, based on the way we’ve played through 10 quarters we’ll be 2-2 at the quarter-pole. Come December we’ll be scratching and clawing our way to a 9-7 finish trying desperately to get the last wild card spot. I know I’m over-reacting, but I’m furious right now!
the reason why 1 game matters is because all of same problems Vick has always had are still there. He’ll never win the big one. You have to string together at least 3 big time games consecutively to win a SB. Do you have any faith that Vick could do that? Not in my book.
This is 19 games. Same problems, over and over.
by the way, just one game would have gotten us into the playoffs and won the division last year ; )
The stop of D-Jax at the 1 yard line is why it would really nice if the Eagles had a 6’2″ 220 lb WR.
But next draft is all about the O-line.
5 TO’s
3 TO’s
At least 3 TO’s…
This isn’t one game. This is dumb play. Poor awareness. Stupid mistakes. Bad penalties. This isn’t a 1 game issue. This is a 19 game issue. This is a 2 season issue. The coaches are overrated. The players are overrated. The Team is overrated. I don’t care if they go 13-0 after this game. This team is a FRAUD. They’ll pick up a ton of yards here in the 2nd half, but it’ll be meaningless.
I disagree. I don’t think they’ll pick up a ton of yards in the 2nd half.
wasnt there more than 3 TOs vs the ravens? i dont remember. 2 INT, i remember at least 1 fumble. i thought there was another one.
McNabb’s problem was throwing the ball short of the goal line on the last play of the half.
Vick’s problem is a slow trigger w/ a bad O-lien.
Kolb’s problem was throwing Pick-6s.
So . . . Foles?
I can tell you this much. McNabb isn’t winning a Super Bowl. VIck has zero shot at a Super Bowl. Kolb, Foles are at least unknowns. The previous two just had terrible situational and pocket awareness at times. You can’t win 3 in a row against good teams if you can’t recognize situations.
Counter-point:
It’s just one game.
But for 3 weeks we’ve seen the same problems.
And w/ the O-line injuries . . . it could get worse.
You have 6 seconds left on 3rd and goal and no timeouts, why would you think you could hold it for 4 seconds????
That last play is just inexcusable. How can you not throw the ball away?
Run the ball all second half. See if you can pound it just to find out whether you have the skill as a team to do it. Their running game doesn’t look smooth this year, so take advantage of the opportunity to try it live.
At this point, regardless of how you feel about Foles, Vick needs to be benched and force him to think about this game. I don’t care if they bring him back next week, but for now, he needs to be sat.
I really want to watch coach’s tape and see if the receivers are getting any separation whatsoever.
How about a run with 25 seconds from the 1 yd line and timeouts remaining?
If you mean us, we didn’t have any TOs
Details, details…
In Foles we trust..
Why no harbor no McCoy in the passing game. We blow