Monday Night Debacle – 2nd Half
Posted: November 5th, 2012 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 262 Comments »Will I watch? Yes. I don’t miss Eagles games.
Will I care? Hard to say.
I’m down right now. This is so much worse than I’d have thought. 3 points? A horrid pick-six by Vick? I feel like I’m paying for sins from a past life. I must have been the Spanish Inquisitor or Idi Amin or Yoko Ono…someone who really did evil things.
This sucks.
Seriously, what is going on? This team is so inconsistent.
They’re pretty consistently crappy.
I would kill for inconsistent right about now.
This team sucks.
I don’t know why. But barring some 2nd half miracle, it’s hard not to see this as the end of the Andy Reid era.
Only good thing about this game is…well, there really isn’t anything. At least we can come here for catharsis.
Babin should be happy, there should be very few boos tonight.
It isn’t too late for him to throw the traveling eagles fans under the bus for not cheering loud enough.
BTW, that was a pretty unlucky P-6. Linebacker should have been called for holding, and Celek didn’t get enough of the ball even with being held.
Vick’s fumble, was, however, horrible. Even though we recovered.
15 pass plays, 51 yards
10 rush plays, 156 yards
what. the. fuck.
I rarely if ever stop watching but with early voting before work tomorrow, this game may do it for me. Sorry to the European fans.
Brees had forever
no heart in this bunch, This feels like a 5-11 season.
I think you’re being optimistic.
It won’t ‘feel’ like that for long. Re-building will feel much worse though!
Does 5-11 mean the new coaching staff gets a good pick?
Seriously, put me in Reid. I can lean against the offensive linemen too…though I’d prefer to lean on the cheerleaders.
Sounds of the seasons playing xmas music, very relaxing, wake me when the season is over, bill cowher is our coach and all will be well.
That might be the worst 30 min of football in the Andy Reid era.
Wow. I had to refresh my browser to realize we had started a new thread about how crappy the Iggles are tonight.
I don’t have anything to say other than “Todd Bowles” was not the answer… oh Juan were are you?
David Sims! One little good play!
I would never want anyone to lose their job, but Andy needs to go.
We hit their QB. That is a penalty, right?
I’m checking with my sources.
…wait…what? They can give us a turnover??
What? A good play?
Graham winning more plays
more reason to keep babin on the bench
My thought too. I would have sat him the second half.
finally a good play by the defense
Miracle in the Dome?
Please oh please do something with this ray of light. Thank You Brandon Graham
That was nice to see.
Mr Babin, introduce yourself to the bench.
Just as I was turning the channel
Draft Jarvis Jones
So, that is the play NFL films will show with the dramatic music playing, right? The turning point on the SB run…
77 yard td for jackson bout time
My niiiggga djack doe
DJAX BABY!!!
Wait, what? I am speechless…
Oh good, the Eagles showed up. Who were those guys in the first half?
well look at that!
isnt that one of hte plays where we have one guy out on a route that takes a long time to get into position that almost never works?
hmm.
Thank you for those 15 seconds of not suck
I don’t want to see Babin.
Okay, right. Now I remember why I watch this game.
That play works against bad defenses. Good to see some fight.
I can stop moping for a little bit I guess
Cmon Spags! Hook us up!
HOLY SHIT!
Full out depression postponed until further notice…
wow
AND CHRIS POLK MADE A PLAY TOO?!
WTF AHHAHAH
Now we are cooking with oil
Umm, wa, that was… ummm…
Wow.
Sweet, sweet, good luck…
oh. my. god.
a good ST play??? holy crap.
Wow. Come on!! Lets go.
Wow, a team with less discipline than us!
Cut polk, eh tommy? Maybe he reads the blog
Well then…
WHEWWWWW! Chris Polk on ST Tommy! How’s that?!
Huge.
About to be 17-21. New game folks
Andy Reid must have went to all 53 guys and ripped each one a new asshole during half time.
Fuck
Terrible series.
y call 3 pass plays in a row when our running game is doing good
Just when I was feeling good.
omg. why are we trying to pass the ball…. and why do we have 5 WRs from the 6 yard line?? i guess i shouldnt be surprised with the sack there…
Our incredibly terrible red zone playcalling burns us again.
Lets just try to score from outside the RZ only
What terrible playcalling. Marty should be fired right now.
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Why in the f*** do we insist on running no back sets? As soon as the defense sees it they crowd the line. EVERYONE can see the blitz coming.
Seriously, Andy. How hard is it to just run the damn ball???!!! 3 straight passes from the 7 yard line. Unfreaking believable. AR is killing our chances of winning this. Just a horrible sequence of play-calling after a potentially game-changing play.
Well it’s something
Can we just get rid of the empty sets? It’s obviously not working. Maybe they’re just that much smarter than the rest of us.
from the 7 yard line, too. i just don’t get it..
I have kept saying… Run the ball, Andy. Of course, all passes
What is going through Vick’s mind when we go empty set and he sees 8 guys crowding the LOS? He has to freakin’ audible.
And then we’re reminded: oh right that awful defense did hold us to 3 in the first half, damn!
Come on D. Let’s get a stop here!
13 years go by and the eagles still can’t score in the redzone. And people wonder why Andy is always public enemy #1…
its fixable.
I can think of one move that will fix things.
lol i dont think thats what AR has in mind!!
Bowles is getting these guys in the back field. They just can’t finish.
holding these guys for 3 downs is just not fair, doesn’t matter if it’s 3rd and long, I’ve got no confidence…thank god they feel obligated to run to burn clock.
Turn that corner, wrap Brees up. Please
sigh. i wish this D could string together a couple of good plays in a row.
instead, its one good play followed by a bad play to give a first down and repeat…
Great, just trade fgs for tds
Our D isn’t able to stop them. Turnovers are what has us a little excited
Sorry for the interruption, we will now resume the regularly scheduled disappointment.
What it feels like, huh?
Trent is due for a sack.
Also, water is wet.
I didn’t say when. We prophets are never appreciated.
What’s that?
Maybe Spags knew something when he didn’t take the job with us.
He saw a sinking ship
Who was it that missed that tackle?
Kendricks.
Kendricks…
dont know but pretty sure it was babin that stumbled in from of brees
3-1 seems like a decade ago.
How did we win 3?
by the skin of our teeth….
Used all of our luck on those 3
the way brees is moving the ball, Jesus, Bowles make some of those unpredictable adjustments, looks like brees is a rolling a peewee team
How many times has Babin crashed inside after his stand up stance and whiffed on a bootleg?
I could cry.
join the crowd
ok, haha, that was a great play though.
We can tell our grandchildren about that one.
Power outage on my street… and it sounds like on the offense, too. It’s somehow less stressful watching your team collapse online…
otherwise it was a good throw!
Vick looks like a defeated man. Get him out of there.
This team isn’t close to mediocre. They’ll be lucky to win 6 games this year.
Boykin with the forward pass! Quarterback controversy in Philadelphia…
Bowles’ defensive calls are decent, players not making plays. Marty’s offensive calls terrible, no shot for players to make plays
he was laying down. to quote ricky bobby “that just happened”
Man….what a season this has been. Good thing it’s week 16 aye guys?!
Hard to believe this is just Game 8.
I guess my sarcasm was executed as well as this game plan.
As bad as this seems right now, we could very well be 5-5 two weeks from now with Carolina coming to town.
Who cares? This team isn’t going anywhere. The Oline sucks, with an avg QB, no pass rush , poor tackling, bad play calling. Does this have the feel of a playoff team to you?
Don’t get me wrong, I fully agree with you. This team needs to be rebuilt. I’m just putting it out there.
Maybe King could just escort him to Vick.
Dunlap gave up that sack in 3 seconds. Less than three seconds, Vick realizes he’s in trouble. Abominable.
All day to throw finally and that’s what they come up with. Pfft…
This O-line is officially too decimated to function….
Decimated is derived from the ancient Romans killing one in every 10 men for a poor showing on the battle field.
You might be on to something.
Didn’t know the roots of that word….cutting 1 in 10 of every man on this roster doesn’t sound bad right now….just once I’d like to see Brees throw the ball away because nobody is open
Oh, just cut them… that might work too.
i dunno about that. we have 180+ rushing yards. the OL can do something right, i guess (i’m thinking its more the saints D, though).
god only knows why we aren’t running the ball, though.
Too bad we weren’t having any success running the ball. Oh, wait…
so who’s our coach gonna be next year? let the speculation begin… i have a feeling this is gonna be the coup de gras on the lid of that can
Cmon D! Turn that corner. Game is still somehow within reach
we are averaging what… 17 points per game? i would guess that we are due for a late game FG and thats about it.
Agreed. There’s a lot of time left. C’mon Eagles!
heyyyy babin got to the QB! lookit that
is that… TWO SACKS in ONE GAME?! i think this D is on its way up (lol)
He got plenty of time to get there!
Was that their first punt?
Multi-Sack Game!!
Little victories.
I will take whatever we can get bro.
God the Eagles are just stringing us along! Going to tear down the field, get inside the 10, take a sack, throw a ball away, then throw a ball through the upright in submission to the inevitable field goal
Shady will brilliantly waltz into the endzone 3 times….as a decoy uhg
Makes you wonder if it’s the playcalling or the execution, or the some of both. Could it be the lack of understanding of what the issues are by Coach Reid? I wish we could all understand. It’s like Tommy explained…
Why can’t we ever run from the I-Formation.
Because that worked against the Giants, and Stan looked like a stud, ergo, we will never do that again, until we play the giants again
You know the Eagles will score a TD here so that they’ll keep me on the hook to the very end. Jerks.
Just don’t inside the 10
been saying that all night. C’mon Mike, just let me go, it will be less painful for both of us!
Exactly i wish they would just take the blowout like A good bad team
Celek fumbles. Are you happy now?
Is it that hard to hurry up?
any other fans in the league dreads being inside the10 yard line?
hey a penalty to get us out of there!
If there are, we should trade them Bell. He is great at getting the team some room in front of them to work. False starts, sacks, he can do it all.
Demetress Bell is this seasons Steve Smith
2 penalties in 3 plays!!!
and then gives up the sack!
perfect timing
Truth.
nah steve smith was going through an injury and was barely utilized. Bell is the winston justice of 2010
bell just needs to be cut after this game
This is brutal.
Is it wrong to just not care anymore?
Jason Peters on one leg maybe better than anything we have on the line.
Bwahahahahah! Perfect ending to this shitty team
I just have to laugh to keep from caring…
hahaha its so true!
at least they stayed consistent
The Eagles run more clock trying to come from behind in one game than most teams burn all season to close out games they’re winning.
amazing red zone performance once again!
4 RZ trips
2 FG
1 Pick 6
1 Fumble
i’m speechless.
It’s just unreal….this is a problem we’ve had since the vick mojo ran out, and it’s not always his fault…just feels like a horrible curse
i wish i was keeping track of the plays that we ran in the redzone. i would swear that we didnt run the ball a single time once we got inside the 10 yard line.
early in the game we had brown bust a big run to like the 4, gave the ball to shady after that I think, brick wall. Next pass was the pick six I think.
First two times in the redone, we ran on first down. The last redone trip we did a terrible shotgun draw and a terrible sweep play to shady.
We ran a shovel pass that was sniffed out pretty well
unreal difficulties in the redzone…it’s like a curse
This team is the bad new bears of football. Completely embarrassing in the redzone
I can’t even think of anything to type anymore
man, demetrius bell couldn’t block me
i can’t imagine that the guy who told the front office that they should sign bell to replace peters could still have his job.
Well ironically Peters was instrumental in getting bell to come here. I swear Jason peters is probably the Arch villain in this story. Play Basketball or volley ball… or something, THEN makes us bring his terrible buddy in just to remind us how much we need him, THE FIEND!
I have more faith in the defense scoring from inside the 10 than the offense.
Tommy, can you do a piece on who won’t be back next year?
Think we’ll hear anything different from Reid after the game than “we’ve got to do a better job”?
Seriously, what more do you want him to say? “You guys are right, I suck, I’m throwing Michael off a bridge and jumping after him myself”? This fixation on what the coach feeds the press after a loss is ridiculous.
Yes, I’m ridiculous. I’m simply questioning whether he will say something different. I take it you think “no.”
There’s no doubt anymore, This season was over the moment Jason Peters busted that Achilles…just got worse and worse with each new O-line injury
i just realized that our offense gave us 6 net points…. 13 points scored minus the 7 for the INT TD… sigh.
the D gave up 21 points to the saints. they are a pretty good offense so i don’t think i can be too pissed about that.
Just said something similar on Twitter. D did okay tonight. Offense…mess.
How many draft picks do the Eagles have next year?
I know I’m young, but Bell is the worst offensive tackle I have ever seen. Even Justice getting eaten alive by Clay Matthews wasn’t as embarassing. Bell pretty much ends up on his butt play after play, when he doesn’t commit penalties… getting shoved by one arm pushoffs like he weighs 100 pounds or something. And he’s out of breath, are you serious? I’m pretty sure he can’t wait for this game to be over. But don’t we all?
It’s probably up there with the Justice vs. Giants shit show.
anyone else think we are going to get some more garbage time points to make the final score look a little less like a blowout?
NO
0/4 in the red zone with 2 turnovers. awful.
make that 5 trips to the end zone!
i feel like the last one shouldnt have counted, even if it resulted in points, but 0 for 5 just makes it look so much worse!
A throw away on 4th down, like this throw-away of a season. Chroichy!
someone else said it best: laugh to keep from crying. the end was just too much haha
Celek has been bad in all facets of the game tonight. 2 turnovers were on his hands. I dunno what’s happened. but right now, DeSean, LeSean and Bryce are the only Eagles I feel good about now.
13 points against the league’s worst defense. Speechless.
Culture of this team needs to change. No one can say that Foles could’ve done a better job.
I just want change, any change, at this point
POSITIVE CHANGE.
It can always be worse.
That’s true. We could be Chiefs fans…though they actually beat the Saints.
Against that defense? Not too much worse.
Not really. Lost to 1-6(?) Saints. Can’t score on bad Saints D. Can’t stop Saints awful running game
Maybe not, but Vick is starting to look like Mark Sanchez. It looks OK sometimes, but overall he just doesn’t look good enough to play NFL QB anymore.
I agree…searching for answers at this point
What are you talking about, Foles clearly could have done a better job at RT.
Enjoy the rest of the season gents. I’m finished with this garbage
Well that was fun. Have a good night everyone. Thanks for the chat. I am going to try to sleep(but will stare at the wall for an hour or so.)
Tommy,
What now?
Admit that we don’t have an offense. Do the Shanahan dance and “use the rest of the season to evaluate the players”.
at the very least, he has to admit that our OL is playing like crap to put it nicely. and they need to start calling plays that fit with what the offense CAN do, not what they think it SHOULD do.
the OL flat out can’t support an offense. Our single TD was from a totally broken play.
So we should sacks and turnovers, because that what this offense can do.
God this O is so bad…it’s like I wish I could just take it all out on Vick. How can we be THAT bad in the redzone. O Line is so bad. Skill players disappear in the redzone. 13 points! Against the saints! In today’s NFL! Make me ill, throw anybody in there at this point, anybody could score more points than that.
Big part of the problem is the Eagles WR stink in the red zone. Jackson is too small and lacks the desire to take the hits in the middle of the zone and Maclin is just mediocre down here.
Exactly. Reid is more about scheme than players and you can’t scheme nearly as much inside the 10 yd line. You need big time playmakers and an Oline that pushes people around. No coincidence this has been a decade long problem for Reid.
As my friend who say, Vick is ‘psychologically damaged.’ Probably the starter but he looked spent several times tonight on the sidelines. When you see that look on athlete, it’s just a bad sign. Can’t blame him either. Randall in his prime would struggle to make plays. Ditto Vick.
Yeah, then RC left the Eagles to have an outstanding season with the Vikings. This is just a bad, bad, bad Eagles team. With the Exception of McCoy and DJax.
The usual lament…We Need More Size In Our Skill Positions
are we going to be able to vote reid out of town tomorrow?
Big Red gets fired tomorrow, right? Minionwheg, right?
To (seemingly) go away from the running game in the second half is inexcusable.
from BGN’s twitter:
Eagles get first and goal 4 times in this game and have -1 points to show for it.
my…..god….
This can’t be good:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000091088/article/michael-vicks-brother-vents-about-philadelphia-eagles
His grammar is on par with his brother’s pocket awareness.
Would there have been a point to having pocket awareness tonight?
No idea… I don’t have power so I had to follow this mess via gamecast. Sounds like there was no pocket to be aware of at all, huh?
I have been critical of Vick, but tonight the only pocket he could have worked in was if hid some Legos in his hand warmer.
I swear I had flashbacks tonight and thought I saw Ron Heller at RT ineptly trying to pass protect. This OL is scarily similar to that pathetic group they had in the late 80s when a broken down Ron solt at RG was their best OL.
Terrible way to spend the night/ early morning. I’m ashamed to say I don’t care much about this team right now. Have a good night everybody, I’m sure it’ll be better than mine, oh and remember to vote!
Tommy is off howling at the moon, eating livestock with his bare hands…he’ll be back with us tomorrow….
Jimmy Bama & I getting ready to record a quick show, aka bitch session.
I’m on board T, haven’t missed an H2H yet….don’t know how you keep yourself from speaking in tongues after the losses, better man than me!
Most eagles fans will be at Stage 2 tomorrow and be angry as hell. I am at Stage 5 and accept this is the beginning of what we’ll might be a long-rebuilding phase starting almost from scratch last year with a new GM, coaching staff, and a new QB.
I hope Tommy didn’t stop drinking PBR and go straight whiskey/bourbon.
Demetress Bell.
This is a family site. Lets try to keep the language clean.
It wasn’t the worst OL performance by an Eagles player in a game but it has to be pretty close. Still give it to Nick Cole in the Dallas playoff game or the infamous Justice debut vs Giants.
It would be funny if Mudd made Bell try to catch a chicken all week in practice. Certainly couldn’t hurt his foot work.
At least Brandon Graham keeps looking better. And Sims wasn’t awful.
Tommy, your gonna need one hell of a film review to sell people that this is fixable.
It’s not at this point. Been quite a while since the Eagles have won a game they really needed to. Argue they haven’t the past 3 years.
Don’t see what firing Reid does at this point but he is dead man walking.
Dont hold back w/ Jimmy…Enjoy your shows…listen to all of them. Don’t hold back on this one. The half full glass that you drink from (and me too) has been shattered.
What happened to the solid LB play the first few weeks? Kendricks seems to have taken a weekly dose of downers and looks confused & slow to react in almost every passing play. Ryans has played mediocre at best the past few weeks and you forget the Eagles even have a WIL LB on the field half of the snaps.
Never thought I would see teams avoid Coleman either in pass coverage but the Saints did tonight.
didinger and ike were talking about how the lbs are being exposed by offenses by spreading out and making them play more coverage and they’ve been sucking. I added some of my own language for your pleasure
Good answer from Vick when asked about his brother’s tweets. “I was unaware of that… that is something I will need to strongly address… I love every player in that locker room…” (paraphrased)
I actually felt bad for him there.
and yep.
his brother is a dumbass
Yep.
Somehow, as bad as this game was, it still didnt feel as bad as the falcons game last week.
Dan Klecko is….awsome…god I wish he had a notable career, the dude deserves better than WIP
6-10 sounds about right at this point. Maybe 7 if they win one of their lame duck games in Dec.
What’s absurd, is our schedule is insanely soft….and the only relevant team in the NFC East has a killer schedule ahead of them, and they are sending up flags of their scheduled november/december crumble. Cowboys fans have to be feeling really good right about now. And Mike Shanahan was throwing in the towel!!! It’s absurd, the NFC East is up for grabs, nobody wants it!