Blocks, Books, and Prospects
Posted: December 15th, 2012 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 230 Comments »I decided to write about the Eagles OL for SB Nation Philly. I evaluated what happened to the line this year and what could happen going forward. We all agree that this has not been a good season for the OL. That doesn’t mean all the guys stink and we need 10 new bodies. There are some good pieces in place. The Eagles will get back some key pieces when Jason Peters, Jason Kelce, and Todd Herremans get healthy. How do they fit in?
As I noted in the article, one of the biggest keys for improved OL play is a new coaching staff. This is not a dig at Howard Mudd. I think he’s done a much better job than people realize. I’ll write up a full column on him. My point is that the Reid/Mornhinweg passing attack puts tremendous pressure on the OL. It doesn’t help them. That is okay when you have a veteran OL with some studs on it. Throwing the ball that much with a band-aid group out there just doesn’t make sense. If you will run the ball regularly (non-QB runs), the line will play much better. To steal a line from some coaching guru…it puts the players in position to succeed.
The Eagles do need some personnel upgrades. This could be in the form of a starter or two. It could simply be depth moves. Depends on what the new coaching staff thinks of the incumbent players and how they should be used. There is logic to using the 1st round pick on an OT, but don’t lock in on that as a definite move.
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A reader asked me to suggest some possible books for Christmas gift ideas since I’ve written about the books I’ve read over the years. Here are some suggestions.
First, here is a list I permanently keep up over at ScoutsNotebook. Lots of great books listed.
Others…
Next Man Up – John Feinstein’s book on the 2004 Baltimore Ravens.
The Essential Smart Football – Chris Brown runs the site SmartFootball.com. He put some of his best posts into a book. Must read material.
Where Men Win Glory – Jon Krakauer’s book on Pat Tillman. Talks about football and life. Great book. Be prepared to deal with a lot of feelings. I was very inspired at times and in tears at others.
A Short History of Nearly Everything – Bill Bryson is a travel writer who decided to tackle the history of the universe. And he did so in an amazing book, possibly the best non-fiction I’ve ever read. This isn’t a bunch of boring facts. He used stories and people to weave together all these events into a single book. Simply amazing.
A book I’ll be reading shortly is War Room: The Legacy of Bill Belichick and the Art of Building the Perfect Team. Michael Holley talked to Bill and Thomas Dimitroff and Scott Pioli on how the Pats were built.
You can also support fellow Eagles fans by buying these books:
Dust by Jason Hutt. This is a sci-fi novel. I have yet to read this, but it is on my offseason list of books to conquer.
The Mentally Quiet Athlete. Fred Gratzon shares some secrets on how to improve as a golfer, tennis player, baseball player, etc. Very interesting book. Definitely will change the way you think and look at certain aspects of athletics.
The Bro Code for Parents. Barney Stinson (Neil Patrick Harris’ character from How I Met Your Mother) offers a book on getting pregnant, being pregnant, and raising a child. This was written by Matt Kuhn and is a hilarious book.
If you want to support Eagles writers…
Les Bowen – Philadelphia Eagles: The Complete Illustrated History
Reuben Frank – Game Changers: The Greatest Plays in Philadelphia Eagles History
And a classic… Bringing the Heat – by Mark Bowden. The story of the 1992 Eagles. Brilliant book.
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Saturday features 2 bowl games. David Syvertsen listed his players to watch.
No elite stars, but some good players.
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Hey Tommy. Thanks for the books tips. I will get Bowden´s one soon. It take more than a month to receive a book from U.S. in Brasil, but it´s worthy! I already have the Les Bowen one! Great stuff!
About the draft, what do you think about us drafting DT Star Lotulelei if he falls to our pick?? We would have a full DL for the future with him, Graham, Curry and Cox..
Star would be a real interesting guy to pair with Cox. Those two could dominate the middle of the defense for the next 5 years. I’m sure it will get talked about quite a lot.
You seem to have a lot of confidence in Todd, I’m quite disappointed in his play this season. One thing though, if you put Herremans at guard and Kelly at RT wouldn’t say an early draft pick or a veteran should be brought in to compete with him?
I realise it’s very difficult to talk about without knowing the new coach and all but what’s your thoughts on Eugene Chung and him possibly staying as the OL coach?
Also saw this today and thought you would appreciate it Tommy.
I don’t think Chung has done anything that makes him a guy that must be kept around, but I think the new coach should meet with him and get a feel for whether he’s worth having as part of the staff. I would not make him the OL coach, but he could be a good Asst OL coach.
Great pic.
Herremans has been too good to be mad at, but too inconsistent to be happy with. I do think a new HC will do him good.
Tommy,
Forget about books – I want a failed linebacker quilt for Christmas!!
The failed LB quilt is still being worked on.
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I can not wait until the new coaches are announced. It makes me crazy, that I have no clue what to look for in a prospect.
I like Warmack at guard, and think he can play in any system, but Dallas Thomas, who I love as well, may only be good in some systems.
DJ Fluker could be a great RT if we run more and Eric Fisher could be an intriquing RT prospect if we keep our current O-Line system.
Right now, I love Joeckel at number 3 and like Star. Other than that, I have no clue what to think. Is there a RDE worth taking? I know I don’t want Te’o that high. I don’t want any of the QBs or WRs… What to do, what to think. January can’t come fast enough – and the sweet April and draft weekend, my favorite holiday of the year. That’s right, I take a day off the friday on draft weekend, lol.
I like Warmack too and can see us moving back a bit if we get a good enough deal with another team
Really? I don’t know much about college players, but didn’t we learn that guards aren’t worth first rounders?
I would rather see us take a RT, and push Todd back inside to compete with the collection of mediocracy on the roster. Partly because tackles are more valuable, partly because I don’t know that we can trust Todd without a plan B next year.
I agree… and i will go one step further. I dont think Todd was good enough consistently at RT this season especially in the 4th qrt. We need a legit OT to complete the bookends. Kelly and Herrdawg are good insurance policies. Only way i am not targeting an OT in the first two rounds is if he isnt bpa or the new coach believes in Kelly as starter.
To be fair on the playcalling, they’ve kept Foles in the shotgun because that’s his comfort zone (if he’s the starting QB next year, he’ll get a whole offseason to practice taking snaps under center with the #1s), but they don’t have a lot of running plays out of that formation – like to see them use the pistol, but MM may be innovative when it comes to pass routes and screens, but not the run.
Don’t worry MM won’t have to be innovative next year sitting on his couch!!
About the draft, I’m really in love with the thought of adding a real impact player like Dion Jordan to the D. Can’t help but be amazed with his speed and agility. Plus a pretty good cover guy for his size. Really believe he’ll be a guy who can do it all like Clay Matthews. My only concern is whether he would really fit in the 4-3, assuming we don’t change to a 3-4. If we draft him, I imagine he would be a SLB on run downs and D lineman on passing downs, similar to Kiwanuka of the Giants except more of a playmaker. Tommy, how do you think he would translate to the pros and where do you see him getting picked in the draft? Ideally I’d like to trade back a bit in the first for better value and add future picks to help us move up for a QB in 2014 if we need one.
Tommy, huge thanks for the book plug! I really appreciate it and it was completely unexpected. Hope you have a very happy holidays!
Always glad to support an Eagles fan.
Good article on O-line TLaw. What are your thoughts that 3 of the Colt’s Starting Offensive Line were former Eagles (Justice, McGlynn and Shipley). Was it because of the Mudd system that we jettisoned servicable players?
Shipley has 2 starts. McGlynn and Justice have started most or all of the year. I have not studied their play. I’m happy both guys found a home. Justice was very up and down in 2010. Remember how Casey Matthews ate him up in the opener that year? Justice was benched in the playoff game and his knee was iffy. Don’t blame the Eagles for letting him go. McGlynn was an adequate player that year for us. He didn’t fit Mudd’s system at all. Not an athlete.
Casey Matthews?? You must me dreaming mr. Lawlor 🙂
I did have 2 beers in me at the time I typed that answer.
I beg forgiveness.
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Tommy: Two things really stand out in your SBN article:
1) Dunlap: “King Dunlap should not be brought back.” I thought he would be OK as a backup, but you want him gone completely. Was he really that bad?
2) Watkins: “You also would want someone who could seriously challenge Watkins. That should drive Watkins to play better football or reveal him as a guy that lacks the competitive drive to succeed in the NFL.” Wow – that’s taking a shot at the fireman. So you think his heart is not into football, a la Shawn “The Big Kid” Andrews?
I think Watkins, who has potential and hasn’t put it together yet, is far different than Shawn Andrews, who had the chance to dominate a position for a decade and didn’t care. It’s more about getting Watkins to focus on every play and put it together. Gotta compete to elevate your game type of thing.
Tommy, I’ve got a quick draft question:
If we sit in the top 5-8, knowing the draft aren’t packed with top tier talent like in the previous few years, is there a chance that we could move back a little? for instance, if Joeckel is on the board, I’ve been wondering wether moving back, maybe getting a 2nd in return, and then pick his body on the right side, Matthews. My thinking is that, like Tyron Smith, he is stuck on RT because of a stud LT Kalil/Joeckel, but might be just as good.
I’m thinking that the new CBA is a positive for movement in the top of the draft, but the lack of top tier talent is a negative…
If barkley falls to bottom of the first or top of the second, do we take him? Or are there still tackles at that point if we don’t take luke?
I rather have Foles than Barkley. Barkley will no be any better than Sanchez.
If Barkley falls to our pick in the second we take him, but i’ll seriously doubt that he last to pick number 15.
Joeckel would be the #1 target on my board right now, but this appears to be a very deep draft so I’d be okay with trading down and taking Fisher or Lewan instead if we got the right deal in return. I’d pass on Warmack unless we somehow snag a second first rounder in the twenties and he falls that far – even the best interior linemen aren’t worth a high first rounder IMO, especially since taking a tackle would allow us to shift Herremans back inside and upgrade the interior anyway. We MUST upgrade the talent level of our O-line, however.
A DL would be a luxury I think. We’ve spent two our last three first rounders on DL, both of whom look like they could be foundational players, and we’ve got some other young guys like Thornton and Curry who need a shot as well. Of course if the new coach decides to install a 3-4 that changes the calculus – in that case I’d be happy with Lotulutei. But if we stick with the 4-3 I think we need to go OL.
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