Cuts Are In

Posted: August 31st, 2013 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 217 Comments »

Eagles threw us a couple of curveballs.

Gone:

RB Matt Tucker

WR Greg Salas

LB Chris McCoy

LB Travis Long

That means that Emil Igwenagu, Jeff Maehl and 6 CBs made it. The CBs include Jordan Poyer, Curtis Marsh and Brandon Hughes.

McCoy is the shocker. He played very well for most of the summer.

This is a very fluid situation and there will likely be changes in the next 3 days.

I’ll write up some thoughts a bit later. Howie Roseman meets with the media at 430pm and it will help to hear what he has to say in regard to the moves.

217 Comments on “Cuts Are In”

1 Arby1 said at 4:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Emil beats out Harbor and Salas?? Go figure.
2 A_T_G said at 4:20 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I watched Meahl and wondered, but thought there was no way he would beat out the ST contributions of Sheppard.
3 Christopher Miller said at 4:23 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Is there really much difference between Salas and Maehl skill sets? Honest question…I thought both were basically possession receivers.
4 Arby1 said at 4:31 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Even if they were equal in terms of skill sets, I hate it when a guy gives it his all, performs really well over an entire camp and gets cut for the new guy who’s been with the team for just a week. #badhighschoolmemories
5 OregonDucker said at 6:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Only difference that I know is that Maehl catches everything thrown his way. He is a true clutch receiver.
I wish we could have kept Salas too. He has made some great plays in PS. Sorry to see him go.
Chip has a rep among coaches as being a great judge of talent and teambuilding. We will see in the NFL but I for one am not going to second guess his decisions prior to the season unfolding. But I really understand the cynicism of Eagles fans who fear they are being let down before the season begins. Too many disappointments over decades of promises – I get it and it sucks.
6 GEagle said at 6:33 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I like Salas…but I’m happy with Maehl being here…and I wouldn’t have complained if Casey Mathews remained even if I didn’t like it….but the mcCoy thing and the corners, it just makes me focus my disappoint,ent on The Ugly uckling, Casey Mathews..
…
out of all the Mathews Men that have Horsed in the NFL, we get stuck with friggin Casey…sigh
7 Mac said at 10:00 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Harbor would be great if he could catch passes
8 jamesbondage said at 4:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Can’t believe Matthews made the cut and McCoy didn’t… Is U or O the new BYU?
9 Arby1 said at 4:15 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I agree. Matthews was awful.
10 jackpotsdad said at 4:22 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I too am disappointed with the McCoy cut, but before we declare this team the Ducks 2.0 or Spurrier v2, let’s find out more. Also, we’re talking about bubble players here. These are the second string not starters. I will say that keeping Maehl does make sense to me; the Matthews pick not so much.
11 RIP illa said at 4:49 PM on August 31st, 2013:
How was McCoy remotely close to being a bubble player? We only have 3 OLBs, as of now, and the kid had a great offseason!
12 GEagle said at 4:53 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I’m not happy at all.
..
if you read my posts, I already expected “air Maehl” to make the team over Salas, but cutting McCoy aggrivates me. I won’t even be happy if he lands on ST…just aggrivating
13 RIP illa said at 4:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Yeah I’ve read them. I think there’s absolutely nothing, for people who are more defensive minded, to he real happy about. But hey that’s been the story of this whole offseason.
14 OregonDucker said at 5:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I suspect Chip has some prospects up his sleeve. Some commentators have said that McCoy did not perform well against 1s but did OK against 2s and 3s.
Let’s wait and see what happens tomorrow.
15 GEagle said at 6:00 PM on August 31st, 2013:
When did he get a chance to try and perform against 1’s? he played well and stood out in 3 of 4 games…and after Barwin he is our best drop OLB….Just a bad taste in my mouth man.
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Thank God for Anthony SHOWTIME Pettis tonight, cause Ice Cube would not say “Today was a good day”.
16 RC5000 said at 5:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Maybe because he’s a 26 year old journeyman jag who’s never played.
17 RIP illa said at 5:14 PM on August 31st, 2013:
So the fact that he played well this offseason and that the team doesn’t have a viable option to him makes sense in your mind??? Got it. In Casey Matthews we trust. I’m not sure, but can somebody be a journeyman that never played in the league?
18 RC5000 said at 1:26 PM on September 1st, 2013:
He played 2nd and 3rd team mostly. You probably had no idea who he even was when they originally signed him. Your post was he wasn’t even close to the bubble.
19 RIP illa said at 1:41 PM on September 1st, 2013:
That’s my bad, cause I should have said how is even close to the bubble when he…! The fact that I had no idea of who he was when they signed him is completely irrelevant and ridiculous. After finding out we signed him I did a little research and then waited for TC reports and preseason. Which is all once again irrelevant, w/ the exception that he did well on TC, per reports, and in preseason, save the 3rd game. And I don’t care that he played 2nd or 3rd nor that he played mostly against 2nd or 3rd. He was supposed to be a backup! I don’t need him to set the world on fire and and take a starting spot…would be nice, but kinda ridiculous! We need depth on this team cause, as of now, our depth at a lot of positions is real shitty! So yeah when a good backup get cuts I react as if we had just cut a starter!
20 OregonDucker said at 5:57 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I don’t understand the Matthews decision either. I know Chip does not play favorites, he wants winners. So I am curious to see how this decision plays out.
21 DamonL86 said at 4:20 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Surprised McCoy got cut
22 DamonL86 said at 4:22 PM on August 31st, 2013:
No idea why Emil is still on the team.
23 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on August 31st, 2013:
He’s hostile, mobile and versatile.
24 DamonL86 said at 4:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I don’t remember hearing his name called at all this preseason.
25 GermanEagle said at 4:53 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Shows us that pre-season games mean f=== all…
26 RIP illa said at 5:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
It’s kinda like they already had their minds made up of who stays and who goes, despite TC practices and preseason games.
27 ACViking said at 4:57 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Concussion, remember?
28 RIP illa said at 5:00 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Yeah he dropped that pass also. 🙂
29 ACViking said at 5:00 PM on August 31st, 2013:
nice.
30 DamonL86 said at 5:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Lol
31 Arby1 said at 4:53 PM on August 31st, 2013:
apparently, his blocking..
32 ICDogg said at 4:23 PM on August 31st, 2013:
2 of the Eagle CBs have broken hands
33 ACViking said at 4:38 PM on August 31st, 2013:
They play CB because they can’t catch. Broken hands won’t interfere.
34 ICDogg said at 4:24 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I thought the point of firing Andy was so we wouldn't have to play the likes of Casey Matthews, Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) August 31, 2013
35 Arby1 said at 4:33 PM on August 31st, 2013:
good one, Faker!
36 Christopher Miller said at 4:27 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Wondering if McCoy cut is sign we are not ready personnel wise to commit to 3 4
37 Duracell said at 4:30 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I agree, to an extent. I could easily see them running the 4-3 Under this year, but Barwin would still need a backup.
38 GEagle said at 5:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I think they are going to run the 4-3u anyway…but as you pointed out, someone has to be able to play in space behind Barwin….No one can sit here Nd tell me that it should be Casey Mathews…
39 ICDogg said at 4:34 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Not overly surprised about Chris McCoy cut. He was good against the Jets' scrubs, but got pushed around in other games, if you ask me.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) August 31, 2013
40 RIP illa said at 5:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Nobody asked you Jeff!
41 GEagle said at 5:33 PM on August 31st, 2013:
This is exactly why no one asks you mcLane…because you are a worthless friggin idiot!….maybe he didn’t show enough for a 4 year Vet..but he showed enough for a young player that only has 1 real OLB…
42 ICDogg said at 4:35 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I'm not shocked the #Eagles kept Casey Matthews. He's a great special teams player.— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) August 31, 2013
43 GEagle said at 5:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Ugh
44 ICDogg said at 4:38 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Sterling Moore cut by Cowboys
45 ICDogg said at 4:40 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie Roseman: A change of scenery was necessary for Danny Watkins.— Eagles Insider (@EaglesInsider) August 31, 2013
46 ICDogg said at 4:41 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie Roseman: "Way for Danny Watkins to get his career back on track is to go somewhere else." GM said being top pick weighed on Watkins.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) August 31, 2013
47 Dragon_Eagle said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Translation: He cost too much money for his production.
48 ACViking said at 4:41 PM on August 31st, 2013:
The Birds moved training camp to Philly and gave him a new Asst Coach.
How much more change could you ask for?
49 Arby1 said at 4:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Yeah, but they didn’t get him the new fire truck, did they?
50 ACViking said at 4:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
nice play
51 ACViking said at 4:42 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Nice that the Eagles didn’t put the PC on line.
Why?
52 ICDogg said at 4:42 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie: we've made substantial changes in how we do things. Leadership responsibilities have changed. New people in personnel department.— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) August 31, 2013
53 ACViking said at 4:42 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Follow-up . . . .
“So how do you do things now differently from before . . . besides you’re in charge?”
54 ICDogg said at 4:45 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie also distanced the draft people on board now from the group when Watkins was picked. #Eagles— Bob Grotz (@BobGrotz) August 31, 2013
55 ICDogg said at 4:43 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie: When u watched Danny play (at Baylor) you felt like you were getting an enforcer. He never let himself go here.— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) August 31, 2013
56 ACViking said at 4:44 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Reading Roseman’s quotes on Watkins, you’d think he liked the choice in 2011 — a lot.
57 GermanEagle said at 4:45 PM on August 31st, 2013:
So have we traded for an OLB yet?!!!
58 ICDogg said at 4:45 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman on 9 rookies, 20 new players on roster: Constant evaluation. We'll be looking at wire— Edward Kracz (@kracze) August 31, 2013
59 ACViking said at 4:46 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Dick Vermeil brought in 25 new players on a 46 man roster in ’76.
That’s turnover!
60 A_T_G said at 4:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
We might get there yet!
61 ACViking said at 4:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Indeed. That would be a good thing, IMO.
62 mheil said at 5:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Matthews, a Duck, makes cut because he is good on ST, but Sheppard who is also good on ST gets cut in favor of another Duck; Sheppard was their best gunner and showed up on kick coverage; clearly, I disagree with cutting Shepard.
63 ACViking said at 4:46 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: OLB
Matthews has played OLB. Plus he’s an Oregon guy. VERSATILE
64 GermanEagle said at 4:47 PM on August 31st, 2013:
WIth Maehl and Matthews on the roster it makes me think that CK might be more (Oregan) biased than we thought…
65 ACViking said at 4:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Let’s see if Remington lands on the PS.
Doubtful.
But if yes, then I’ll be head-scratching.
66 GermanEagle said at 4:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Also I am more convinced than ever now that Dion Jordan would be wearing Eagles green, if it wasn’t for the Dolphins!
67 ACViking said at 4:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
BINGO!!!!
Comment of the day . . . so far.
68 GEagle said at 6:39 PM on August 31st, 2013:
lane loves it here….He should send the Dolphins a thank you gift basket, every year right before the NFL draft….
69 eagleyankfan said at 4:49 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Doesn’t mean he played them well…
70 ACViking said at 4:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I kid. Agree with you.
71 GEagle said at 4:46 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Absolutely disgusted that we cut McCoy…ruined my damn day….We have 3 OLBs which means there is another shoe that still has to drop, but it’s still dissapointing to lose a kid with so much potential. I don’t even want him on PS…I wanted him on the roster….it’s a joke to see Marsh here and McCoy gone…I know another OLB is on the way, but I doubt it will be someone notable, so I would have rather kept McCoy,…This sucks. I can count ATleast 10 Eagles I would much rather cut….these cuts have been dissapointing for me
72 ACViking said at 4:49 PM on August 31st, 2013:
A deal of DJ in the works?
73 GEagle said at 4:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Thanks for trying to cheer me up….but even Dion dreams won’t help right now….Not happy today
74 ACViking said at 4:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Cudos!
75 ICDogg said at 4:46 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman on CB position: Poyer affected by not having work til camp but kept coming on strong— Edward Kracz (@kracze) August 31, 2013
76 GEagle said at 4:47 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Just like I said…Imot one to toot my own horn lol Jk
77 RIP illa said at 5:07 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Good call. And good to know Howie is already making excuses for less than stellar to poor play.
78 GEagle said at 6:07 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Thank you kind sir…Forget the clear Oregon favoritism, Salas had a good camp, but Maehl brought a lot more versatility, knowledge of the offense….I liked Salas as much as everyone, but I don’t have a problem with the Air Maehl move
79 eagleyankfan said at 4:47 PM on August 31st, 2013:
We know Casey Matthews is great on special teams? Do we know that by how great they were last year on ST? He adds zero roster.
80 ICDogg said at 4:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman says CBs Curtis Marsh, Brandon Hughes aren't expected to be out long term. Both coming off hand surgery.— Bob Grotz (@BobGrotz) August 31, 2013
81 GEagle said at 4:49 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Can’t believe we have to spend another year with Marsh
82 RIP illa said at 4:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Can’t believe we have to spend another year w/ Hughes!
83 GermanEagle said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Can’t believe we have to spend another year with BOTH!
84 GEagle said at 4:52 PM on August 31st, 2013:
marsh is so bad, that he makes me put up with Hughes…ATleast I have seen Hughes do something on ST every once in a while
85 RIP illa said at 4:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Ask Tony Scheffler who he’d rather have gaurding him. Lol!
86 Joe Minx said at 5:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Marsh is terrible. He cannot play defense & he cannot play STs. All Howie said was “he’s a big guy who can run.” BS.
87 DamonL86 said at 5:03 PM on August 31st, 2013:
3rd round steal!
88 ACViking said at 4:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
But they were not good . . . or did I miss something.
89 A_T_G said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I wonder how long until they are good…
90 RIP illa said at 4:52 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Are you being sarcastic or not? Not trying to start anything w/ you. Just really wondering.
91 ACViking said at 4:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
maybe we’re speaking the same language.
I’m surprised both made the cut. From all I read, neither was progressing.
92 RIP illa said at 5:16 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Ok. And yes we’re speaking the same language. Non of the reports on them were good coming out of camp. Just SMH right now. Figured we would have kept one if them due to the injuries, but to keep both…ugh!
93 ACViking said at 5:17 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Bingo
94 RIP illa said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Wow…thanks for the updates. Howie is at least keeping me laughing for now!
95 ICDogg said at 4:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Asked about having only three OLBs, Howie Roseman mentioned DE Vinny Curry as inside pass rusher and Casey Matthews as emergency OLB.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) August 31, 2013
96 ICDogg said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
On keeping Casey Matthews: can play inside or outside and some familiarity with defense we'll be running— Edward Kracz (@kracze) August 31, 2013
97 ACViking said at 4:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: OLB emergency
How does VC at DT solve the OLB problem.
Not seeing the connection . . . unless Roseman meant the Eagles will go to a true 4-3.
Sounds more like garbage for the masses — Roseman’s being about as honest on that point as, oh idk, a politician on the impact of big contributors.
98 DamonL86 said at 4:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Just said VC could play some OLB.
99 ACViking said at 4:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Oh.
Not encouraging, though.
I stick to my politician’s answer theory
100 DamonL86 said at 4:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Agreed.
101 laeagle said at 5:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I thought we were all past the Howie conspiracy nonsense. What is he hiding? Why would he hide it? Conspiracy theories only work if there is an actual point to having a conspiracy.
102 ACViking said at 6:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Laeagle:
I don’t believe Roseman’s comments are part of a conspiracy. That would require two people.
I think he’s using “GM Speak,” that’s all.
Just as Kelly used “Coach-Speak” when he said Vick is his QB for this season.
As a lawyer — who’s used to lawyer-speak — I don’t begrudge him doing his job.
WHAT BOTHERS ME is the media’s general incapacity to press for answers with more precise questions.
103 ICDogg said at 4:52 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie on 2010 and 2011 drafts: "Forced us to evolve from the way we had been doing things."— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) August 31, 2013
104 ICDogg said at 4:52 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman: Maehl is a guy who can play inside and outside. Said wide receiver was a tough position to decide— Eagles Insider (@EaglesInsider) August 31, 2013
105 GEagle said at 5:38 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Knew Air Maehl would make it…I don’t have a problem with this one
106 Vick or Nick said at 4:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Definitely have a lot of thoughts on these cuts:
1. Its not that McCoy got cut. He really only played well against back up players. But its the fact that Mathews made the team over him. Mathews didn’t even play well against BACK-UPS. It would not surprise me in the least if Mathews is cut for another waiver wire player.
2. How is the Maehl-man on this team?? I thought Salas and Shepard both showed more in practices and games than this guy. Would not surprise me if he gets cut for another waiver wire player as well.
3. Not that surprised that Harbor got cut..but why is the world is Igwenagu on the team?? Again, wouldn’t surprise me if he gets cut for anther waiver wire player.
4. How did Hughes, Marsh, and Poyer all make the team?? Wouldn’t surprise me if 2/3 get cut before the weekend.
5. Really disappointed to see Mathew Tucker cut. I knew it would be hard for him to make the team but he showed promise. Some RB hungry team will scoop him up in a hurry.
OVERALL: Not surprised by the guys who got cut, but more so the guys who didn’t (that should have been) cut. Although I anticipate a rapid amount of transactions for a team that lacks serious depth.
107 RIP illa said at 4:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
McCoy is a backup…who is he supposed to play well against when all he’s playing against is backups?
108 Vick or Nick said at 5:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I agree. I would have kept him. However, I can see the eagles cutting him to keep another BETTER player. Mathews was NOT a better player.
109 RIP illa said at 5:08 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Agreed
110 ICDogg said at 4:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman said have a draft style board set up for waiver wire. Have looked at guys think are on bubble. now have to wait c if they available— Edward Kracz (@kracze) August 31, 2013
111 phillychuck said at 4:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Kelly lied to his players and to the fans. The guys who played well didn’t get the jobs, the veterans who suck were kept despite being basically invisible during pre-season. How can Hughes, Marsh, Matthews, and Igwenagu still be on the team? Really silly cutting McCoy if he doesn’t make it through to the PS.
112 GEagle said at 4:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Screw the PS…mcCoy should be on the roster and dressing for games!!
113 phillychuck said at 4:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Agreed.
114 ICDogg said at 4:57 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Howie on Fletcher Cox, Mychal Kendricks: "don't see a reason why they shouldn't be big-time players in this league." #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) August 31, 2013
115 ICDogg said at 5:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman praised Igwenagu's ability to block at the point of attack … felt need for role players and that he was a fit— Eagles Insider (@EaglesInsider) August 31, 2013
116 ICDogg said at 5:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Asked about the #Eagles going with Emil Igwenagu over Clay Harbor at tight end, Roseman mentioned Emil's blocking ability.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) August 31, 2013
117 ACViking said at 5:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: Igwana at TE
Could be limited time — until Casey 100%. Or 90%
118 ICDogg said at 5:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Roseman is confident that James Casey will be ready for Week 1 … Casey suffered hamstring injury vs. Jets. Did not factor in keeping Emil— Eagles Insider (@EaglesInsider) August 31, 2013
119 ACViking said at 5:04 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I’ll take that comment by Roseman on E-Igwana to the bank after he’s still on the roster on Week 16
120 Vick or Nick said at 5:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Did I miss Emil making plays in practice and in games? I know he caught one pass from Vick but that was more Vick’s throw. Scratching my head.
121 Anders said at 5:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I havnt really watched him, but reports have said he made it because of his blocking and while people have said Iggy dropped a lot of balls in practice, he had the best hands in pre season games
122 ICDogg said at 5:04 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Eagles' average age: 25.74— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) August 31, 2013
123 ACViking said at 5:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Cut Soapy — get younger.
124 Arby1 said at 5:17 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Soapy’s all washed up?? (sorry, couldn’t resist.)
125 ACViking said at 5:19 PM on August 31st, 2013:
No apology necessary. When the ball’s on the ground, you pick it up and run with it.
126 ICDogg said at 5:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
On Chris McCoy: "That was a tough one."— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) August 31, 2013
127 ACViking said at 5:08 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Maybe McCoy was not a good special teams guy.
Any thoughts on this point?
128 Vick or Nick said at 5:15 PM on August 31st, 2013:
possibility. Mathews is better in that area.
129 ACViking said at 5:10 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: Best Reported Line by Roseman
Vinny Curry — who’s added about 20 pounds or so — is now an emergency OLB.
Can’t take much of what he, Roseman, says seriously after that.
130 ICDogg said at 5:13 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Yeah, he’s got something up his sleeve, but in typical fashion, we won’t know what it is until it’s done.
131 RIP illa said at 5:18 PM on August 31st, 2013:
God I hope so.
132 phillychuck said at 5:13 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Part of what Rosenman is doing in this PC is lying so that other teams don’t know who they’re after. Nobody thinks Vinny Curry will play any OLB this year.
133 ICDogg said at 5:15 PM on August 31st, 2013:
before TC I thought he would be one of those guys moved to OLB, but not since
134 ACViking said at 5:15 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I don’t think Roseman needs to lie.
The Eagles have 3 OLBs. Only 1 can actually play the position.
135 Vick or Nick said at 5:19 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I’ve been tirelessly stating this exact point. The STUDS in a 3-4 are OLBs. The Eagles have one that is functional, at times above average. Defense has a chance to be historically bad. (Maybe not 2012 Saints..but close.)
136 RC5000 said at 5:23 PM on August 31st, 2013:
We’ve known this for a long time. It’s not news on cutdown day. Chris McCoy isn’t a stud.
137 ACViking said at 5:26 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Looked a lot like Cameron Wake against the Jets.
138 Gary said at 5:33 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Against the Jets’ 3rd stringers.
139 ACViking said at 5:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I’m just having some fun.
140 Gary said at 5:41 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I know you are. I just think people are overreacting to the McCoy cut a little.
141 ACViking said at 5:50 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I think you’re right.
He’s knocked around Canada and two NFL practice squads — including Houston.
Not a huge loss, I hope.
I still assume special teams was an issue.
142 Anders said at 5:51 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I think run defense was an issue.
143 ACViking said at 5:53 PM on August 31st, 2013:
May be. Didn’t focus on him enough during Exhibition season.
144 Arby1 said at 5:23 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Reminds me of when we went to the Wide 9…..with no MLB!
145 ICDogg said at 5:30 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Sure he’s going to lie… he’s not going to tell you we have a crap sandwich
146 ACViking said at 5:14 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: C-McCoy
Roseman called that move “a tough one”.
Did the reporters let him off the hook after that answer? No “what made the difference,” or “where did he fall short,” or why is “Matthews still here?”
147 ACViking said at 5:16 PM on August 31st, 2013:
T-Law:
Are there any Oregon 3-4 OLBs who played for Kelly who’ve been cut in the past couple days?
148 GermanEagle said at 5:20 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I am just doing my Fantasy Football Draft as I write. The Eagles D hasn’t been picked as of now, and we’re in round 9. No surprise though…
149 ACViking said at 5:22 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: Defense
No player was more “Philadelphia” than Trent Cole.
But, geez, he’s playing slow.
Why not put Graham out there? What the hell.
150 ACViking said at 5:25 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: Maehl v. Salas
I thought Salas played some slot, as well as on the outside.
And I’d like to see Maehl make those catches that Salas did.
151 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:26 PM on August 31st, 2013:
David Bass, Donaty Mach are 2 OLB/DE players i hope Eagles have a look at
152 ICDogg said at 5:29 PM on August 31st, 2013:
IMO there will be more roster moves this weekend.
153 ACViking said at 5:35 PM on August 31st, 2013:
How many?
What’s the over?
154 GermanEagle said at 5:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
2.5
155 ICDogg said at 5:37 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I think 3 moves, so I’ll take the over
156 GermanEagle said at 5:39 PM on August 31st, 2013:
And I bet a cheeky tenner that Hughes, Matthews and Marsh won’t be on the 53 roster come tomorrow lunch time.
157 ICDogg said at 5:44 PM on August 31st, 2013:
After tomorrow at 4PM they can IR guys with less than 4 years service without exposing them to waivers first.
158 ICDogg said at 5:33 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Anyone want to buy 10,000 Robert Meachem Chargers jerseys?? #ThoughtIWasGonnaBeRich— Eric Stangel (@EricStangel) August 31, 2013
159 GEagle said at 5:47 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Luckily I didn’t get a jump on trying to sell Dion Jordan Eagles Jerseys
160 jackpotsdad said at 5:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Trying to make sense of the two ex-Duck players kept on the roster:
Maehl – keeping him makes sense to me, and I predicted he’d sneak into the roster. He’s sure handed, a good blocker and has better than average size. I think he’ll be in the role they had intended for Clay Harbor, sort of a hybrid WR-TE. Doesn’t have the size to go toe to toe with defensive ends, but is probably more than adequate to block your defensive back or even linebackers.
Matthews – I have a harder time with this one, largely because IMO McCoy outplayed him. Based on my memory, and confirmed by Tommy’s DGRs – McCoy had good games against New England, Carolina and the Jets, with his sole bad game against JAX . Matthews had good games against New England, JAX, DNP against Carolina and didn’t play that well against the Jets.
I haven’t kept up with Casey’s performance in the NFL, but I get the impression it has been uneven at best. In Oregon, he was above average, and I was actually somewhat surprised he was even drafted. One thing he does do well (at least during his college career) is that he causes turnovers. He had a knack of causing fumbles and stripping the ball. It may be this intangible that Chip values…or it could be pure nepotism.
Just thought you’d like to get a perspective of someone who watched both players when they both at UO.
161 GEagle said at 5:37 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Appreciated
162 ICDogg said at 5:37 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Turning it on now. RT @LRiddickESPN: Want to see how to defend read option? On display now #CrimsonTide— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) August 31, 2013
163 RC5000 said at 5:39 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Breaking news. Alabama has the best defense in the country.
164 GEagle said at 5:40 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Stanford might have something to say abut that
165 RC5000 said at 5:44 PM on August 31st, 2013:
More breaking news.
166 RC5000 said at 6:18 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Haha Alabama looked like the Eagles and it was a read option play…VT just ran the read option and scored a long TD run right up the middle.
167 ICDogg said at 6:19 PM on August 31st, 2013:
saw that
168 RC5000 said at 6:35 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Of course I just said they had the best defense in the country too so I thought it was funny Riddick said that.
169 DamonL86 said at 5:42 PM on August 31st, 2013:
No, boys cut Demetress Bell!
170 ICDogg said at 5:45 PM on August 31st, 2013:
He was locked in a close battle with Grey Trash Can #2.
171 DamonL86 said at 5:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Don’t disrespect Grey Trash Can #2 like that.
172 ICDogg said at 5:46 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Who the hell is Jeff Maehl? #Eagles— EaglesJake (@EaglesJake) August 31, 2013
173 ACViking said at 5:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
He’s been summering in the Atcama desert in Peru.
174 ACViking said at 5:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Re: Jeff Maehl
Here’s how the 6’1 185lbs Maehl did at the 2011 Combine:
40-time: 4.62
Finished 2nd among WRs in the 20-yard shuttle, and 1st both in the 60-yard shuttle, and 3-cone drill.
Maehl ran a 6.42 3-cone drill — fastest since 2005.
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The 2011 WR class included: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Torrey Smith, Randall Cobb, Greg Little, Austin Pettis.
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Seems like Maehl has great short-area quickness . . . so maybe he’s the future in the slot. (It took that little guy from Tx-Tech a couple years to become the Brady’s favorite guy to miss the key SB catch from the slot.)
175 Anders said at 5:49 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Also Maehl had really good blocking against the Jags and was clearly the best WR of Salas, Sheppard and him against the Jets. He was the only guy that got open.
176 ACViking said at 5:52 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I have no problem w/ the decision. Shepard’s way too raw except as a ST chaser.
QUESTION: Does Maehl make this team if Maclin and Benn aren’t hurt?
Does Maehl even get traded to the Birds sans those injuries?
I’d like to see him on the field — not in the press box on Sundays.
So next year, he’s the new slot guy. Love Avant — but slow and not a RZ producer.
177 jackpotsdad said at 5:56 PM on August 31st, 2013:
No way Maehl makes this team if either Maclin or Benn are healthy
178 RC5000 said at 5:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Really are you sure? lol Maclin is better than Maehl.
179 jackpotsdad said at 6:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Maclin is pretty darn good. Benn has that size that Chip loves. Just because Chip looks like a UO homer doesn’t make him dumb.
180 RC5000 said at 6:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Sorry I was being sarcastic. I agree with your last statement.
181 ACViking said at 5:58 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Only if Avant’s cut, maybe? Or — with both a healthy Maclin and Benn (unusual, yes) — Cooper doesn’t survive Concert-gate
182 RC5000 said at 6:02 PM on August 31st, 2013:
No kidding, really?
183 ICDogg said at 5:53 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Fun Fake Fact: Jeff Maehl’s wife is named Fiona, and is known as “Fi Maehl”
184 ACViking said at 5:54 PM on August 31st, 2013:
that’s really great. long day
185 ICDogg said at 5:55 PM on August 31st, 2013:
WHAT COULD GO WRONG???? RT @LRiddickESPN: So King Dunlap is up and on center stage as the starting LT for the #Chargers.— Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) August 31, 2013
186 ACViking said at 5:59 PM on August 31st, 2013:
QB Rivers calling lots of max-protect?
187 ICDogg said at 5:59 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Source says they'll add one before kickoff #analysis RT @NFL_ATL: Browns cut both their kickers.— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 31, 2013
heh
188 GEagle said at 6:01 PM on August 31st, 2013:
FYI: Johnny Football is a Jackass!!!
…
Mariotta who I have never once acknowledged, is a MONSTER!
189 jackpotsdad said at 6:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Mariota needs to hit the gym though. He has a great arm, is accurate,is both quick and fast, and have all the great QB intangibles. However, he does not have the NFL body…he’s like 6’4″ 212 lbs. He’ll have to put on at least 10-15 lbs…he’s really scrawny.
190 GEagle said at 6:36 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Correctable…
191 ACViking said at 6:06 PM on August 31st, 2013:
But is Mariotta an accurate passer? The Oregon system is very forgiving that way.
In the NFL, will the “Chipper System” be as forgiving?
One thing for sure, Mariotta is damn fast with nice pocket presence. And if he is accuarte, and has an NFL arm, wouldn’t he be a Top 5 pick? Out of the Eagles’ reach, save a blockbuster trade up?
192 jackpotsdad said at 6:11 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Can confirm he’s very accurate, and he’s never had stellar receivers either. He threw 32 TDs to 6 INTs as a redshirt freshman last year. He’s a top 5 pick *if* he can get build up his body to take NFL hits.
193 ACViking said at 6:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I’d love to see that kid stay in green.
194 OregonDucker said at 6:48 PM on August 31st, 2013:
He performs best in GREEN!!
195 Anders said at 6:14 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Josh Huff is really good, but I would still love Mariota next draft
/edit, btw Im such a big fan that I would consider Mariota over Clowney consider the importants of QB
196 jackpotsdad said at 6:16 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Huff has gotten better sure. But it’s not like what Barkley had with Marquis Lee, Robert Woods and Alogolor.
However to be fair, having Lylerla and DAT to throw to isn’t shabby.
197 GEagle said at 6:31 PM on August 31st, 2013:
All good points…I guess our only saving grace would be that if guys have good years it can be a stacked draft class, pushing him back a little…with Dion getting stolen from out chips nose, I wonder if he will want to be much more agressive next year, think about trying up to get his guys instead of risking them being embezzled away like Jordan was.
…
You guys see how Johnny Football acted today? What a Clown!!! I hope someone crushes him!
198 GEagle said at 6:05 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I got 16 injured, scrub backup corners, 8 Lepurs playing safety: youngbuck, sissy, petite Coleman, dopey, sneezy, sleepy…..and I can’t get 1 backup natural OLB?
199 ACViking said at 6:11 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Thought you were about to write out a 16 injured scubs, 8 Lepurs playing safety . . .and a partridge in a pear tree.
200 ICDogg said at 6:06 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Watkins is a natural left guard, Eagles tried to make him a RG. Pats among the teams with some interest. Could be a nice fit— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) August 31, 2013
201 ACViking said at 6:10 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Where did La Confora get that info?
If true, why wouldn’t the Eagles have moved Watkins to LG when Herremanns was moved out the RT in 2011? Yes, it was late in TC. But so what. Save the 1st rounder.
Good luck to New England if he lands there. If anyone can get the guy to play, it’ll be the warm and fuzzy Belicheck. And his very good OL coach, Dante Scarnecchia.
202 Anders said at 6:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
The thing is, if Watkins is a natural LG and a bad fit for RG, why would the Pats sign him when they got a pro bowl LG?
203 Eric Carranza said at 6:47 PM on August 31st, 2013:
because they didnt draft him in the 1st round n probably wont be paying him much so its okay for them to sign him as a back up LG
204 GermanEagle said at 6:12 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Evan Mathis >>> Danny Watkins.
205 ACViking said at 6:14 PM on August 31st, 2013:
True.
But at the time, Mathis was just a guy and Watkins was a big investment.
206 GermanEagle said at 6:22 PM on August 31st, 2013:
True. 😉
207 ICDogg said at 6:15 PM on August 31st, 2013:
beats me where La Canfora came up with that
208 GEagle said at 6:34 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Spare me LaCONshithead just for today. it’s too much. Don’t kick me when I’m down lol..JK 😉
209 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:42 PM on August 31st, 2013:
I said the same thing about Watkins playing LG.. Its like a left hand right hand thing which you feel more comfortable at.. He played LT at Baylor if im not mistaken so sliding one spot in to LG would be easier than a switch to the right side
210 ICDogg said at 6:17 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Patterson made the Giants roster
211 Anders said at 6:17 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Did both Jenkins and Patterson make it?
212 ICDogg said at 6:19 PM on August 31st, 2013:
yep
213 shah8 said at 6:20 PM on August 31st, 2013:
The Vikings cut Stephen Burton, who fits many of Chip Kelly’s preferences at WR. One of those people whose raw physical talent hasn’t fully translated to the field.
214 shah8 said at 6:30 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Incidentally, I’m enjoying all the eggs on the faces of the Webb haters, just now.
It’s like with Chris McCoy. Talent is talent is talent. There is a bunch of politics involved, and I suppose Matthews is one of those political choices–but it’s still a pretty fringe consideration compared to put-together talent and scheme fit.
215 shah8 said at 6:34 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Actually, one further comment…The Vikes must be really confident in how Greg Childs is looking when he returns. Five wide receivers is too few when one of them is the emergency rip-cord on having a pretty boy at QB.
216 ACViking said at 6:30 PM on August 31st, 2013:
T-Law:
Where ever you are . . . and I know you’re there . . . thanks for turning the asylum over to the inmates.
Been a lot of fun.
217 ICDogg said at 6:38 PM on August 31st, 2013:
Coaches do seem to have pet players, like Reno Mahe and Chad Hall were to Reid. And it seems that Kelly has his pet players as well.