JAX 17, PHI 16 – 2nd Half Thread

Posted: August 24th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 205 Comments »

Weird night. Damaris Johnson fumbles. Then he has a long KOR and PR. The defense is awful and then they get sacks and a big INT. Then they give up a long run. The offense has struggled, but still has 16 points. This is just one of those roller coaster games.

Michael Vick has been very erratic. Some of this is due to pressure from the Jags. The Eagles OL has been sloppy at times. Vick is not handling the pressure well and is all over the place. Chip Kelly will talk to him at halftime. Kelly will talk to him after the game. Kelly will try to get this ironed out. It may not work, but Chip is a great coach. He needed to see Vick struggle before he could tackle those problems.

The 2nd half shouldn’t be boring, that’s for sure.

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205 Comments on “JAX 17, PHI 16 – 2nd Half Thread”

  1. 1 ICDogg said at 9:09 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    My wife just changed the channel to Life of Pi. THIS WILL NOT STAND

  2. 2 GermanEagle said at 9:10 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Good movie though.

  3. 3 Arby1 said at 9:12 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Just tell her the tiger and the boy both survive. The End.

  4. 4 Andy124 said at 9:14 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    damn you!

  5. 5 Arby1 said at 9:16 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    What do you mean? I just saved you good money for a not very good movie.

  6. 6 Corry said at 9:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    And they invent Frosted Flakes. It’s very touching.

  7. 7 Arby1 said at 9:16 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    lol!

  8. 8 Andy124 said at 9:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I still want to see that at some point.

  9. 9 Anders said at 9:09 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Lets hope the offense adjust and comes out with more Oregon style offense. The quick strikes should help the OL

  10. 10 Mitchell said at 9:11 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    who got the int?

  11. 11 Corry said at 9:12 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Barwin made a very good play.

  12. 12 Mitchell said at 9:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Thanks, I’m stuck trying to watch on this damn preseason whip around.

  13. 13 Corry said at 9:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Can you watch online? I thought NFL.com was offering that. I could be wrong though.

  14. 14 deg0ey said at 9:16 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    You have to pay for it, but I think it was only like $15…

  15. 15 Arby1 said at 9:12 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Is it too late to hire Gus?

  16. 16 James said at 9:33 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    HAH.

  17. 17 GermanEagle said at 9:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Tommy
    Is it possible that Kelly decided to dial back is usual game book tonight in order to fool the Skins? The pass run ratio is 70-30 plus we haven’t seen those 4 WR double stag plays yet. The play calling feels like a trip back to AR’s inglorious last days in Philly!

  18. 18 deg0ey said at 9:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Hadn’t thought of that at all, but it makes sense – especially because this game is more about getting the starters game-ready rather than trying to figure out who fits the system.

    I really hope the regular season brings less of Vick running around in the backfield looking for someone to throw to, though; I can deal with him not sliding, but he needs to either pass/throw it away or run. Those times when he doesn’t do either are turnovers and sacks just waiting to happen.

  19. 19 scratcherk said at 9:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I was thinking/hoping the same thing

  20. 20 Andy124 said at 9:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but something smells off tonight.

  21. 21 TommyLawlor said at 9:59 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    The Eagles aren’t running a standard gameplan at all. Throwing lots of passes. You need to work on those vs live competition. Get timing down and things like that.

  22. 22 Anders said at 10:03 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Makes sense because this gameplan seemed very anti Kelly.

  23. 23 shah8 said at 9:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I wouldn’t say that Vick’s erratic. Henne’s erratic.

    The bigger problem is definitely the No 2 receiver, besides the usual interior linemen trouble. Someone with wheels gotta step up a bit in terms of smoothly getting open.

  24. 24 xeynon said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    You seem to be taking “erratic” as synonymous with “bad”. It isn’t. An erratic QB is exactly what it sounds like – a guy who is inconsistent, unreliable, varies widely in his performance level from week to week, etc. That is pretty much exactly what Vick is and has been over the course of his career. Henne, on the other hand, is just not very good at all. Two different quarterbacks with two different problems.

  25. 25 shah8 said at 11:07 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Man, you have such a one track mind, you see everything along those lines you want to think and talk about, and talk, and talk, and talk, as if there’s someone you could convince.

    Vick wasn’t really making bad reads. He wasn’t all over the place in accuracy, nor did he have hot and cold streaks. I think just about every bad play Vick had, he had help in being bad. So you couldn’t actually say that he was bad or erratic.

  26. 26 xeynon said at 1:14 AM on August 25th, 2013:

    Vick made a few great plays, and a few absolutely terrible ones, sometimes looking like a franchise QB, sometimes looking like an untutored rookie. That is his M.O. It is also pretty much a textbook definition of “erratic”.

    As for his decision making, it’s true that offensive line breakdowns, etc. contributed to him being under duress frequently, but the pair of horrendous decisions he made when he was under duress (the INT and the duck he threw up as he was being tackled) were 100% on him. Stop being a blind apologist and acknowledge the bad with the good.

  27. 27 A Big Butt and a Smile said at 1:16 AM on August 25th, 2013:

    2 mistakes do not a bad game make.

    “Stop being a blind apologist and acknowledge the bad with the good.”

    Shah8 didn’t make any excuses. You’re the negative one. 2 bad decsions (one of which didn’t’ matter ’cause it was at the end of the half) – and you’re on here talking about how he had a bad game. He didn’t. It was okay. Not great. Not bad. Just okay.

  28. 28 Scott J610 said at 11:01 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Henne is a backup. He’s not their starter.

  29. 29 Tom said at 9:14 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I think this is classic preseason. Jags gameplanned (what the announcers said Gus told them), our O-line didn’t, and Kelly is trying to put a strictly pro no huddle offense on tape during the “dress rehearsal” to mess with the Skins.

  30. 30 GEagle said at 11:03 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    You think the skins stopped watching when Foles came in the game?

  31. 31 Jerry Goldstein said at 9:14 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Yup, Kelly will have magic touch that finally fixes Vick. Vick the 33 year old just needs to learn a few new things and he’ll put it all together.

  32. 32 Anders said at 9:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Full second team D on

  33. 33 Corry said at 9:19 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Matthews looks a lot more comfortable in a 3-4 than he ever did in the 4-3

  34. 34 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 9:19 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    What’s the saying about lipstick and a pig….

    Lets get the Vick excuse bus gassed up and ready to go

  35. 35 shah8 said at 9:20 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Nobody has to make excuses for Eli or Tom, and there are other things to worry about.

  36. 36 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 9:23 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Right because they have how many SB between them?

    If we have more to worry about than Vick’s inability to play under pressure then I’d suggest we all get hum keter down for another loooong season.

  37. 37 shah8 said at 9:25 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    So what? It’s just a veteran thing. Look around the league, how many starting QBs are putting up great numbers this week? Not many. Can you guess why? It’s practice, y’all!

    Nobody needs the vinegar.

  38. 38 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 9:32 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Difference being proven winners versus proven, well exactly what has Vick proven? Same ol’ guy, just a different day…

  39. 39 deg0ey said at 9:34 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    He’s proven that he’s the guy Chip wants as his starter to open the season. Can we just leave it at that for now?

  40. 40 xeynon said at 9:36 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Why do Vick apologists find it so difficult to acknowledge the potential validity of the theory that the reason the guy doesn’t play well consistently is that he just isn’t a very good quarterback? If he were coming off a Pro Bowl season and had a track record of consistently excellent play, this sort of thing could be written off more easily. But what we’ve seen tonight is very much of a piece with his play over the past few years. Some good plays and highlight reel athleticism, along with questionable decision making, carelessness with the ball, and a reckless style of play that puts his health in constant jeopardy. He is what he is – a middle of the pack quarterback with some eye-popping talents but also several major flaws. He ain’t Tom Brady or one of the Manning brothers and he doesn’t belong in the same sentence with any of them.

  41. 41 shah8 said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    No man, I’m just seriously envisioning people like you trying to sour the mood after *every* single low moment. It’s just not cool.

  42. 42 xeynon said at 9:44 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m not trying to sour the mood. I’m pointing out reality as I see it – that the guy playing quarterback for this football team is not good enough to start for a contending team. I have been saying this about Vick all along and will continue to say it as long as he’s starting (and afterwards, because neither Foles nor Barkley is good enough either) because it will continue to be true. If you don’t like reality harshing your mellow, don’t choose to believe things that are so plainly contradicted by the evidence.

  43. 43 shah8 said at 9:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Uh huh…

    Seriously…read what you’re saying. Besides, ain’t nobody thinking you harshing anyone’s buzz by promoting reality. You’ve just had your jimmies rustled and don’t think anyone should be happy when you’re not.

  44. 44 Lewwyn said at 9:50 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Are you happy though?

  45. 45 shah8 said at 9:55 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m not unhappy. It’s a preseason game. The *main* reason I’m not happy is that we have only one athletic WR doing good routes. Then OL, then secondary. Vick isn’t really playing poorly, so the constant whining about him being the starter is something I have a problem with. I just sorta see me watching the Eagles losing a game, and seeing constant comments about how Vick is horrible, no matter whether he was or not.

  46. 46 xeynon said at 10:01 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Don’t quit your day job to become a psychoanalyst, buddy.

    I’m quite happy. I really don’t let something as ultimately trivial as football affect that. Why would I? I enjoy the sport for a lot of reasons, but I don’t go into each season expecting contention, because some teams don’t have the horses to contend, and this team is one of them in my view. As I’ve said before, I’ll consider it a good season if the team goes 7-9, plays better down the stretch than they do early on, and shows that its young talent is developing to the point that they could contend in 2014 or 2015. This is akin to Andy Reid’s first year for me. The main reason I can’t get excited about Vick is that in my view what you see is what you get when it comes to him and I don’t expect him to be around the next time this team actually contends. Watching his ups and downs during what is likely to be a losing season regardless of how well he plays therefore doesn’t interest me. The same goes for the other older, stopgap-type players on the roster (Sopoaga, Cary Williams, Celek, etc.). I’m bored and a bit annoyed that the team is not taking the future-oriented approach I think is wisest, not unhappy.

  47. 47 shah8 said at 10:06 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Chip Kelly is wiser than you.

  48. 48 xeynon said at 10:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    We shall see. He certainly knows more about football than I do, but that doesn’t mean he’s necessarily going to make better decisions, given that factors such as pressure to win immediately or having his ego tied up in how well the Eagles do this year may affect his decision-making. Ruben Amaro Jr. knows more about baseball than I do, yet I was 100% correct in saying it was idiotic of him to give Ryan Howard a $125 million contract when he was two years away from free agency and entering his thirties.

  49. 49 shah8 said at 10:20 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Again, just…listen to yourself. You’re being a pompous blowhard impressed with his ability to point his finger at someone.

  50. 50 xeynon said at 10:24 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Hahaha. Pot, meet kettle.

    If you can’t win an argument with someone who doesn’t agree with you, and makes a reasoned case why they don’t, you don’t help your case by disregarding the content of what they’re saying and resorting to name calling. If you want me to believe that Vick is a top-notch quarterback despite what I see as a wealth of evidence to the contrary, and that his clear defects as a player aren’t fatal flaws in a franchise quarterback, make that case. Don’t resort to schoolyard tactics.

  51. 51 shah8 said at 10:35 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I do not have to. You’re not actually presenting any sort of case of why you know more than intelligent professionals, and you sound more than a little silly while doing so.

  52. 52 xeynon said at 1:20 AM on August 25th, 2013:

    I never claimed to know more than intelligent professionals. In fact, I stated the exact opposite. I said that said professionals sometimes make decisions that are not in the best long term interests of the team because those interests do not always align with those of the team, which I as a fan take issue with. I do not see how you can have a problem with that.

    You are now just appealing to authority (“Chip Kelly says X, therefore X must be right”) in addition to slinging ad hominems. Neither is a convincing argument to me.

  53. 53 deg0ey said at 9:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    But this clearly isn’t a contending team. If Chip wants to install an offense that includes a quarterback running component then he may as well have Vick hold the fort until this becomes a contending team and/or he finds someone else.

  54. 54 xeynon said at 10:05 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That is an argument I find more persuasive, but Chip has said himself that he doesn’t *have* to have a running quarterback to succeed. To me, the value of knowing whether Foles can get any better than he is now or whether he’s hit his ceiling >>>>> the value of giving the other players on the offense a chance to practice with a mobile quarterback, but I can at least see the case you’re making.

  55. 55 deg0ey said at 10:06 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    FWIW, I’d rather see Foles out there too – just seems like you’re going a little OTT on the anti-Vick propaganda.

  56. 56 xeynon said at 10:20 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’ve repeatedly called Vick middling, uninspiring, deeply flawed, not a Super Bowl-caliber quarterback, etc. That doesn’t seem over the top to me. Calling him terrible, a running back playing QB, completely incompetent, or some of the other things I’ve seen the more idiotic anti-Vick people say I agree is OTT, but that is not the opinion of him I hold and I’ve never said those things or endorsed them when others have said them. I’ve perhaps been a little insistent in expressing my opinion but I find it hard to think of that as propaganda when my main reaction to Vick is not “I hate this guy” but “bleh”.

  57. 57 GEagle said at 10:24 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I don’t mind Vick when the ball is out in under 3 seconds…when he has it for like 5 seconds, he looks silly lol

  58. 58 Corry said at 9:22 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    WTF was the ref talking about?

  59. 59 Andy124 said at 9:24 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    The price of tea in China.

  60. 60 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:23 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Now I’m sure AR is calling this. Pointless challenge.

  61. 61 ICDogg said at 9:24 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I might agree or disagree but I don’t even know what the ruling even is.

  62. 62 TommyLawlor said at 10:00 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That was nuts.

  63. 63 ICDogg said at 9:23 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m totally confused

  64. 64 deg0ey said at 9:25 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I can only assume we’ve gone back in time to the replacement refs and horrible O-Line / play-calling from last season.

  65. 65 GermanEagle said at 9:24 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    and now even our coach makes a bonehead decision throwing the red flag! Lol

  66. 66 deg0ey said at 9:26 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Are they allowed to notice that they should never have thrown the yellow one when they review it? Because in that circumstance he might have a point. Was never a penalty.

  67. 67 Felix said at 9:26 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Todays gameplan is definitely from the Andy Reid Playbook!!!

  68. 68 DamonL86 said at 9:26 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    So other then Vinny Curry who is standing out on the 2nd team defense?

  69. 69 ICDogg said at 9:26 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That’s the problem, they’re standing around and not doing anything

  70. 70 ACViking said at 9:26 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Spadaro . . . OMG!

  71. 71 Andy124 said at 9:29 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    What? What’d I miss?

  72. 72 teltschikfakeout88 said at 9:27 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I have yet to see a live look in of the eagles game on the nfl network. Replays yes. Live lookins no. I hope the nfl blackout issues don’t apply to preseason games.

  73. 73 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:27 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    OK. Either that was really smart or really dumb.

  74. 74 ICDogg said at 9:28 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    or just a waste of time

  75. 75 Corry said at 9:29 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    This.

  76. 76 shah8 said at 9:30 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    defensive depth sucks

  77. 77 Anders said at 9:30 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Dam a blantant pick by Robinson. I suppose only the Eagles will ever get called on that?

  78. 78 GermanEagle said at 9:31 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Kenny Philips would have made a pick 6!!!!

  79. 79 ICDogg said at 9:31 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    But is nowhere to be seen

  80. 80 deg0ey said at 9:32 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That invisibility cloak is going to be a real difference maker this season.

  81. 81 ICDogg said at 9:33 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’d rather have a warp shield

  82. 82 ICDogg said at 9:34 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    The Polk show

  83. 83 Corry said at 9:36 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Are you serious?

  84. 84 ICDogg said at 9:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    No, I’m XM

  85. 85 Corry said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Doesn’t that technically make you Sirius then?

  86. 86 ICDogg said at 9:41 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    It used to be: “I’m serious!” “Well, I’m Roebuck, let’s start a store!”

  87. 87 Corry said at 9:43 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That one might be just as bad.

  88. 88 ICDogg said at 9:47 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Yeah, it was on the same level as when my school teachers would pass out “handouts” to the class and I would say, “We’re proud people. We don’t accept handouts.”

  89. 89 Corry said at 9:50 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Nice, lol

  90. 90 ICDogg said at 9:36 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    oh no

  91. 91 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    AAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! Please call him Charlie, not Bryce, but Charlie Brown.

  92. 92 DamonL86 said at 9:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Unreal

  93. 93 shah8 said at 9:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well, I was happy with the first 17 yards of that run…

  94. 94 James said at 9:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Wow, Brown you are such a blue balling tease

  95. 95 GermanEagle said at 9:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    lol, it is really 2012!!!

  96. 96 deg0ey said at 9:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    What’s the rule when a fumble goes out in the endzone? It’s not something stupid like a touchback, is it?

  97. 97 Anders said at 9:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Touchback and Jags ball at the 20

  98. 98 deg0ey said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well that’s a bitch.

  99. 99 DamonL86 said at 9:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Guess the ball on the string isn’t the answer to fumbling

  100. 100 pjxii said at 9:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Eskin said someone injured their hand but I didn’t catch who it was. Did the tv broadcast say anything?

  101. 101 James said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Hughes

  102. 102 Conor Mc Namara said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Brown should have to play NT on the next series for that

  103. 103 scratcherk said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Eagles finding even more innovative ways to lose this yyear

  104. 104 DF587 said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That’s two fumbles where nobody even got a helmet on the ball.

  105. 105 deg0ey said at 9:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Umm…except someone did get a helmet on that ball?

  106. 106 shah8 said at 9:41 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Yeah, the announcers are playing up the fumble thing, but that really was a pretty good play by the tackler. Brown needs to hang on to it, but…

  107. 107 Lewwyn said at 9:40 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    2012 baby!

  108. 108 Arby1 said at 9:41 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    On the plus side, losing to the Jags puts us in the Teddy Bridgewater sweepstakes!

  109. 109 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 9:44 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I too thought Jags and Raiders were the worst two teams in the league until tonight…;)

  110. 110 Anders said at 9:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I think the Eagles offense will be better than this. We have to much talent for us to be this bad

  111. 111 DF587 said at 9:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Bring on the Foles, Salas show. Has James Casey even played this preseason?

  112. 112 DF587 said at 10:10 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Oh, there’s Casey. 4th quarter

  113. 113 scratcherk said at 9:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    The jags announcer just said Boykin was inconsistent during camp… Lol

  114. 114 GermanEagle said at 9:47 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    It doesn’t show up on the field though!

  115. 115 deg0ey said at 9:47 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Inconsistent in the sense that sometimes he got the INT and sometimes he only got a PBU?

  116. 116 GermanEagle said at 9:47 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    at least we can stash Whitley on IR now. Poyer just made the roster by default…

  117. 117 Arby1 said at 9:47 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    thinkin’ the same thing.

  118. 118 Corry said at 9:49 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I know why the defense isn’t playing well tonight. They’re also wondering what in the hell is up with those Jacksonville helmets.

  119. 119 xeynon said at 9:51 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I am hoping that this uninspiring performance against one of the worst teams in the NFL will tamp down a bit of the unrealistic optimism that has been floating around these parts over the past few days.

    This team is a work in progress. They have a new coaching staff putting in entirely new systems on both sides of the ball, and are deficient in talent in several key areas. The benchmark for a successful season should be whether the younger players on the roster make strides and whether the team’s performance level improves over the course of the year, not whether they contend for the playoffs or a Super Bowl. Because if you expect that, you are almost certain to be disappointed.

  120. 120 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:54 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well put. I moved them up from a 6-10 to a 7-9 team. I think even that may be optimistic. However, at the end of the season, I’ll be happy if I see progress and improvement. No fool’s gold, just better play.

  121. 121 GermanEagle said at 9:53 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Brandon, you’re a nice guy. Please don’t play outside though!

  122. 122 Andy124 said at 9:55 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Brackett!

  123. 123 ICDogg said at 9:57 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Foles time

  124. 124 ICDogg said at 9:58 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well, that first pass wasn’t exactly awe-inspiring

  125. 125 ACViking said at 10:00 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Not an INT . . . off his back foot . . . under pressure.

  126. 126 scratcherk said at 9:59 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    WB controversy!

  127. 127 ICDogg said at 9:59 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Sanchez is hurt.

  128. 128 pjxii said at 10:01 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That doesn’t hurt the Jets.

  129. 129 Corry said at 10:02 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Addition by subtraction.

  130. 130 ACViking said at 10:03 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Down goes Sanchez. Down goes Sanchez. Down goes Sanchez.

  131. 131 ICDogg said at 10:04 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    officially ending the worst QB competition ever

  132. 132 ACViking said at 10:02 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Bryce Brown . . . won’t see him no more.

  133. 133 Anders said at 10:08 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Casey Matthews is making this team as one of the back up ILB.

  134. 134 Andy124 said at 10:08 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    He looked a little like Dan Henderson there. Freaky.

  135. 135 Corry said at 10:11 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    He looks more comfortable in this defense.

  136. 136 shah8 said at 10:10 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    C’mon Shepherd, make daddy happy…

  137. 137 Anders said at 10:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    He shows really good yac skills and great blocking by Maehl and Ertz/Casey (couldnt see who) on his bubble screen

  138. 138 Andy124 said at 10:11 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well, that drive looked easy.

  139. 139 Tom said at 10:12 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Totally different offense.

  140. 140 DF587 said at 10:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Looked better, liked it more

  141. 141 GEagle said at 10:12 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m sorry, but I just enjoy watching Foles play….lol I can’t help it

  142. 142 Anders said at 10:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Well we know that Eagles backup offense > Jags backup D

  143. 143 Anders said at 10:13 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Why wasnt we seen this offense with Vick?

  144. 144 xeynon said at 10:35 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Maybe because Vick wasn’t playing against the Jaguars’ second stringers? I’m not putting too much stock in anything Foles does at the end of this game.

  145. 145 Anders said at 10:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    It was more in type of play calling. Seemed with Vick that we had a lot more down field routes or Foles is just much better at the short game

  146. 146 pjxii said at 10:14 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Listening to the radio feed leaves me one play behind the comments here, but on that last drive they ran four plays before I caught up. Now that’s FAST!

  147. 147 Christopher Miller said at 10:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I know he does not have the speed of Vick, but he sure looks like he runs the pace better than Vick.

  148. 148 ICDogg said at 10:15 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Dixon getting swallowed up

  149. 149 GEagle said at 10:16 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    The TV just listed Chaney as a guarentee to make the team…wth

  150. 150 Anders said at 10:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    No way, he is going to be cut after this game

  151. 151 ICDogg said at 10:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Lindley sucks

  152. 152 Anders said at 10:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    that was Poyer

  153. 153 GEagle said at 10:18 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Have some damn respect for one of the daily news “sexy singles” lol…NO I’m not making this up

  154. 154 Christopher Miller said at 10:17 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Scott looks better than I thought he would…wish the Eagles had dodged Barkley and picked Scott up late…D could have used the help.

  155. 155 Anders said at 10:19 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Some of the UDFA QBs have looked better than some of the drafted

  156. 156 GEagle said at 10:21 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Like that Poyer and Shep are finally showing up

  157. 157 GEagle said at 10:22 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Everyone’s not showing the skins our offense theory is done now that we are showing it with Foles

  158. 158 ICDogg said at 10:22 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I don’t think Chip’s winning this challenge

  159. 159 GEagle said at 10:27 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Bryce can be great

  160. 160 ICDogg said at 10:28 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    when he doesn’t suck

  161. 161 shah8 said at 10:31 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    when he doesn’t suck, he’s really pretty good.

  162. 162 Andy124 said at 10:27 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Bryce!

  163. 163 ICDogg said at 10:29 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    My neighbor’s cat is named Tucker

  164. 164 GEagle said at 10:30 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    BRYYYYYYYCE!!!!

  165. 165 Tom said at 10:32 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I’m curious if Vick had these same reads and just held the ball for the big play/slower developing routes. Obviously Foles pushes the tempo better (from the small sample we have seen), but I wonder what the tape will show regarding play calls.

  166. 166 GEagle said at 10:33 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    POLK just pounded two Jags like a Boss!!! They just bounced off him…99yard drive!!! Love it!
    ..
    Defense better hold up

  167. 167 Anders said at 10:35 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    That player there tried to tackle Polk, got punished

  168. 168 GEagle said at 10:35 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    while Polk laughed at him

  169. 169 Andy124 said at 10:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Bullsht. It was more of a giggle.

  170. 170 ICDogg said at 10:33 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Polk just waltzed in for the 2 pt conversion

  171. 171 Corry said at 10:34 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Yay cheerleaders!

  172. 172 pjxii said at 10:36 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Must be a lot of Eagles fans at the game. Plenty of cheering when they scored. Either that or Jags fans are already giving up on the season and are rebelling

  173. 173 Tom said at 10:36 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I take it back though, Vick was 89% in the first 2 games. So clearly the play calling was very different.

  174. 174 GEagle said at 10:37 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Curry continued his campaign of Terror

  175. 175 xeynon said at 10:38 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Gonna be an equal opportunity QB skeptic here… Foles is playing against the backups. That does make his job a lot easier.

  176. 176 pjxii said at 10:39 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Thanks for that, Mörton!

  177. 177 xeynon said at 10:43 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Who is Morton?

  178. 178 ACViking said at 10:44 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Actually . . . spelled M0rton with a zero, not an “o”

  179. 179 xeynon said at 10:45 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Okay.. still no idea who you’re referring to though. 🙂

  180. 180 pjxii said at 10:46 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    A legend on this board.

  181. 181 Lewwyn said at 11:08 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I miss M0rton.

  182. 182 Anders said at 10:50 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    a very pessimistic person that hated every Eagles player except Dawkins

  183. 183 xeynon said at 10:51 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Ah okay… well, I don’t think of myself as THAT pessimistic.. or pessimistic at all, really. And there are quite a few players on this team I do like and want to keep around, even though I’m not too bullish on the team as a whole.

  184. 184 pjxii said at 10:53 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Nah, just kidding! You’re nothing like M0rton (correct, AC?) but the timing was just right.

  185. 185 Anders said at 10:56 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    You are nothing like him

  186. 186 BreakinAnklez said at 8:24 AM on August 25th, 2013:

    The man, the legend, the best there is, the best there was, and the best there ever will be.

    He had short term memory loss and was the King of Hindsight. LOVED BG and BLASTED JPP before the draft. Hated the Eagles for taking BG and not JPP afterwards.

  187. 187 Corry said at 10:40 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    But he’s playing with backups as well.

    EDIT: I don’t care who plays QB, just someone win me some damn games.

  188. 188 xeynon said at 10:43 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Right, that’s a fair point.. I’m just saying, a professional quality quarterback (which I think Foles is) should be able to move an offense against a defense of second and third stringers. He’s played really well but it’s a test it’s not surprising he passed.

  189. 189 Anders said at 10:40 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    But he also had pure backups in there except James Casey.

  190. 190 pjxii said at 10:42 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Is Kafka going to finish this game on a stretcher?

  191. 191 TommyLawlor said at 10:49 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Looked that way for a minute.

  192. 192 ian_no_2 said at 10:50 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I never have the TV sound on during the preseason, but in a screen graphic Baldinger announced that Chaney and Matthews have the team made and Brandon Graham is on the bubble. Forsooth.

  193. 193 Arby1 said at 10:52 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Classic!

  194. 194 Scott J610 said at 10:52 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I thought Vick held the ball too long. I don’t know who’s fault it is but I thought the offense would be faster and quick hitting. It just look like last year with Reid calling the plays.

  195. 195 GEagle said at 10:52 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Did Nate Allen play tonight? Lol

  196. 196 Anders said at 10:54 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Did Wolff play tonight? (sorry couldnt resist)

    As was the case against the Panthers, we played a lot of cover 1 and 3 and we didnt get burned for any huge gain, so he have been a good job there.

  197. 197 GEagle said at 11:01 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    You will NOTICE #28 in his 4th year…I promise you that lol

  198. 198 GEagle said at 10:53 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Why can’t we see more Foles? Sooo not fair

  199. 199 Alistair Middlemiss said at 11:02 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    It sucked seeing the 2012 eagles offence and 2012 vick out on the field… Vick won the starting job and i understand why but i just feel a lot more comfortable when Foles is in the game

  200. 200 Scott J610 said at 10:58 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    We may have officially won, but it feels like a loss. We lost the battle of the starters in the first half. And Jacksonville didn’t even have their starting QB playing.

  201. 201 Weapon Y said at 11:10 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    It’s interesting how Chip Kelly is labeled as a Spread guy (which he is), while Big Red is labeled as a West Coast guy. Kelly’s frequent use of short routes resemble the true West Coast far more than Andy’s bastardized “bombs away” version of it.

  202. 202 shah8 said at 11:10 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Whaaa?

    No, Chip Kelly’s offense is not like a WCO.

  203. 203 Weapon Y said at 11:20 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    My bad. I can see why that looks like a dumb statement. I wasn’t specific enough. It’s only similar because it emphasizes short passing routes, rather than deep passes. Andy’s West Coast, meanwhile, is nothing like the Bill Walsh horizontal West Coast. Just a simple observation.

  204. 204 shah8 said at 11:29 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    I just saw the stupidest play of the year. It’s preseason, but I think it matches the butt-fumble. Arizona player clearly gets a fumble from a run at the one yard line, that dude falls down, gets up, as *as he was tackled*, tries to lateral the ball to a defensive lineman. Of couse, that defensive lineman was not expecting an extra bit of ball and jogging, and the ball heads right back to the Chargers for the TD.

  205. 205 TommyLawlor said at 11:51 PM on August 24th, 2013:

    Postgame post is up.

    http://igglesblitz.com/2013/08/phi-31-jax-24/