NE at PHI – 2nd Half Thread

Posted: August 9th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 112 Comments »

Good start for the offense. They scored 14 points and moved the ball well.

The defense? Not so good, to put it mildly. The run defense has been awful. That will be a major issue in practice this week. The pass defense has been up and down. Tom Brady made some great throws that ruined very good coverage. On plays like that, you just tip your cap to him. Brady is one of the greatest QBs in history.

STs looks vastly improved.

Mixture of good and bad, as we expected.

112 Comments on “NE at PHI – 2nd Half Thread”

  1. 1 Corry said at 9:23 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Can they stop showing Baldy’s pinky finger? That thing freaks me out.

  2. 2 BC1968 said at 9:36 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Can they cut Baldy’s mic?

  3. 3 A_T_G said at 9:24 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Against a powerhouse running team like the Pats, what did you expect?

  4. 4 Anders said at 9:24 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Pats was actually a good running team last year

  5. 5 A_T_G said at 9:30 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Curtis Marsh looked like DRC there.

  6. 6 A_T_G said at 9:32 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Twice in a row.

  7. 7 Ark87 said at 9:32 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    atleast Wolff had the nerve to stick his nose in there to stop the touchdown

  8. 8 Anders said at 9:33 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    So Pats OL and RBs > Eagles backup safeties and LBs. Shouldnt really be a shock consider the back up safeties/LB is spare parts from the last 4 years of terrible run defense

  9. 9 DF587 said at 9:34 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Lagarette Blount is known to be an exceptional cutback runner. He should be able to run away from a defense. Need depth at LB

  10. 10 Guest said at 9:34 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    We knew the defense would get lit up. I’m thrilled the offense did well with both Vick and Foles. All in all, I feel good.

  11. 11 DF587 said at 9:35 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Optimistic about “o”.

  12. 12 Ark87 said at 9:36 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Hopefully the D can figure it out and then stay healthy (because we have no depth), or it’s going to be a long year.

  13. 13 RIP Worms said at 11:23 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    We don’t exactly have a lot of “shallow” either.

  14. 14 Anders said at 9:36 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I think D will be good in the long run. Remember we are down to 3rd string D now.

  15. 15 BC1968 said at 9:38 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Good in the long run as in next year or the year after?

  16. 16 Anders said at 9:43 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I think during the year. We shouldnt expect a Texan like turn around and we have almost zero talent at safety

  17. 17 Always Hopeful said at 9:39 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Not sure how “good” they will be, but they need to provide more than a speed bump for offenses. I won’t put too much stock in this first outing. Let’s see what they look like in first half of pre-season game three.

  18. 18 Ark87 said at 9:39 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Oh, hello Danny, didn’t expect to notice you tonight, way to rise to the occasion

  19. 19 BC1968 said at 9:46 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    If we’re done talking about the game, can we talk about boobies?

  20. 20 Corry said at 9:47 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Boobies?

  21. 21 BC1968 said at 9:48 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Yep, nipple talk is welcome too.

  22. 22 A_T_G said at 10:09 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nipples?

  23. 23 BC1968 said at 10:05 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    haha

  24. 24 Ark87 said at 9:47 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    nice play by Wolff

  25. 25 A_T_G said at 9:48 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    For all the hype Salas has been getting, he hasn’t shown up tonight.

  26. 26 Corry said at 9:49 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Sheppard hasn’t been that impressive either.

  27. 27 A_T_G said at 9:50 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    He seems to have Barkley’s trust, at least.

  28. 28 Andy124 said at 9:50 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    As bad as Barkley has looked with his reads, it’s hard to have an opinion about any of the receivers he’s playing with.

  29. 29 TommyLawlor said at 9:50 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Has he played much?

  30. 30 A_T_G said at 9:51 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    For his sake, I hope not.

  31. 31 jtre said at 9:59 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    just scored

  32. 32 DamonL86 said at 9:49 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Knott playing well

  33. 33 Ark87 said at 9:50 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    having a nice few plays in a row, looked good earlier too

  34. 34 TommyLawlor said at 9:50 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    He’s had some good moments.

  35. 35 DamonL86 said at 9:52 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Those will be the last fgs missed against us for the season.

  36. 36 Corry said at 9:53 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    The problem is that they aren’t going for career long attempts or record setting attempts.

  37. 37 BC1968 said at 9:55 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Yeah, the 70 yard blast with 02 seconds left with a 2pt lead is something that usually happens to us.

  38. 38 Ark87 said at 9:52 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Looks like Chip came out of the game, and they sent Andy back in. Damn pre-season. Bad penalty, ironically worked out for field position

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 9:55 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    So, you think we start tackling to the ground this week?

  40. 40 BC1968 said at 9:55 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Moving up to flags.

  41. 41 BC1968 said at 9:56 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nice throw

  42. 42 A_T_G said at 9:56 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Worked past the nerves?

  43. 43 BC1968 said at 9:57 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    He had one like that earlier. Hopefully he’s going to get it going.

  44. 44 BC1968 said at 9:56 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Now Baldy is stroking his balls. Hall Of Fame for Matt

  45. 45 Ark87 said at 9:56 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Clay finally showing something, having a nice game.

  46. 46 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:56 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Barkley starting to catch fire.

  47. 47 BC1968 said at 9:59 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nice

  48. 48 A_T_G said at 9:59 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    It is a shame we haven’t seen Hefty out there yet.

    And like I said, Salas is really showing something tonight.

  49. 49 BC1968 said at 10:01 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    lol

  50. 50 Ark87 said at 10:01 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    We just need you to call all our players over-rated and we’re going to the super-bowl

  51. 51 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:05 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Marsh ya gotta catch that

  52. 52 Ark87 said at 10:06 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    not having a good night, atleast it was good coverage.

  53. 53 JB in P-Town said at 11:25 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Slow/stiff cornerback with bad hands…stop the project already. He isn’t an NFL cornerback.

  54. 54 A_T_G said at 10:05 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Understatement of the night: Tebow [at QB] gives [the Patriots] a different look.

  55. 55 BC1968 said at 10:07 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Anyone know who made this famous cheerleader chant up? “Try and score a touchdown you scumbags!”

  56. 56 Ark87 said at 10:08 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    http://citizenthymes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/72583710.jpg

    …?

  57. 57 BC1968 said at 10:10 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Aww Nice try. It was Steve Martin from his Wild And Crazy Guy Comedy record. Yeah I said record, so we’re going back to the 70’s there.

  58. 58 Ark87 said at 10:10 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    dammit!

  59. 59 BC1968 said at 10:11 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    It was a great guess considering you took a stab at it, I can imagine triumph saying that.

  60. 60 BC1968 said at 10:10 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Die you gravy sucking pigs! Another Steve Martin chant, the other cheerleaders were so jealous they wouldn’t even use one of my cheers.

  61. 61 BC1968 said at 10:12 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    He wanted to be coach but they wouldn’t let him. “I had my own strategy, I used to like to punt on first down.” One of the better comedians of all time. lol

  62. 62 Ark87 said at 10:13 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Hopefully Tucker is in shape by now

  63. 63 BC1968 said at 10:14 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    The old throw it 5 yards when you need 10 for a first down.

  64. 64 A_T_G said at 10:15 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    There is no way we are putting Celek back out there, right? So no more punts or field goals?

  65. 65 BC1968 said at 10:17 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nice to see them at least knocking Tebow down.

  66. 66 BC1968 said at 10:17 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Hey they picked up the screen! Wow, that was nice.

  67. 67 Corry said at 10:19 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    …does Nick Miller have a tattoo of Jesus?

  68. 68 A_T_G said at 10:20 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I think that is Tebow in the tattoo.

  69. 69 BC1968 said at 10:20 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    hahaha

  70. 70 Andy124 said at 10:21 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    So you’re agreeing with Corry?

  71. 71 Ark87 said at 10:19 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Colt anderson actually hit that dude twice in one play

    Dunno if I’m impressed or embarassed

  72. 72 BC1968 said at 10:22 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I’d like to see Dixon and Vick play wideout with Foles behind center, and then reverse, flea flicker crazy bat shit all hell goes loose play.

  73. 73 A_T_G said at 10:23 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    …and Foles catches the pass 50 yards down field.

    We can use that play to run out the clock.

  74. 74 BC1968 said at 10:26 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Yep, like the McNabb against Dallas play, just run around and keep running. Four corners offense. lol

  75. 75 BC1968 said at 10:23 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nice look down by Dixon, waited a long time.

  76. 76 A_T_G said at 10:26 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I don’t think Felix makes this team.

  77. 77 BC1968 said at 10:28 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I’m rooting for him because of the fact I’d love to see him shove it right up the Cowboys’ ass with an Eagle uniform on.

  78. 78 Andy124 said at 10:32 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Didn’t work out so well with Chris Boniol.

  79. 79 BC1968 said at 10:33 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Ohh the bad memories.

  80. 80 A_T_G said at 10:36 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    That would be nice, but a 7th rounder and two undrafted guys beating out their former first, then running wild while LeSean rests would be okay too.

  81. 81 Ark87 said at 10:28 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    It’s really a feel-good story if you dehumanize him as a washed up cowboy.

  82. 82 BC1968 said at 10:28 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Nothing burns an ass like seeing your player come back and kick your ass.

  83. 83 BC1968 said at 10:32 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    We need a touchdown two point conversion and an extra point. Heard great things about the Kelly offense, make it happen Chip!

  84. 84 Ark87 said at 10:34 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    check it out, safety, TD….and a 2 pt conversion, because field goals and extra points just ain’t happening.

  85. 85 BC1968 said at 10:37 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Yeah I was using a little, very little, humor in pretending that Chip can pull all that off with his great new innovative offense.

  86. 86 BC1968 said at 10:38 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Crazy catch!

  87. 87 A_T_G said at 10:39 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    That’s my boy! I’ve been singing his praises for the last 15 minutes.

  88. 88 Always Hopeful said at 10:39 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    ha, ha, ha…

  89. 89 BC1968 said at 10:39 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I can vouch for you there! +

  90. 90 Andy124 said at 10:41 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    lol

  91. 91 Ark87 said at 10:38 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    look at GJ! Look out Dixon

  92. 92 BC1968 said at 10:40 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    What a poopy play to end the game. Did they call Andy for that one?

  93. 93 A_T_G said at 10:41 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Yeah, really. Why didn’t the running back try to throw it after getting into the line?!

  94. 94 Ark87 said at 10:42 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    on the way down facing the wrong direction

  95. 95 BC1968 said at 10:43 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    We could just go on and on, have to get that Andy taste out of our mouth, but it’ll take awhile.

  96. 96 nickross23 said at 10:48 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    HOF or not Warren Sapp is a freaking moron.. i can’t stand listening to that noise he calls analysis coming out of his mouth. I thought those guys in studio watch the game. Then the could of realized our LS was hurt and we already rolled a snap on a FG attempt so yea oh course we’re gonna go for 2. Geez i wish there was a hall of stupid to induct Sapp into as well

  97. 97 A_T_G said at 10:49 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I wonder what kind of jackets they would give inductees? Straight?

  98. 98 BC1968 said at 10:49 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Didn’t Sapp sell his SB ring cause he’s broke?

  99. 99 BC1968 said at 10:51 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    haha he claims he doesn’t know where his SB and college championship rings are. Broke ass jerk sold them that’s why.

  100. 100 A_T_G said at 10:53 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    The Raiders are running for chunks against the ‘Boys.

  101. 101 BC1968 said at 10:53 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    They can spew chunks on them too.

  102. 102 BC1968 said at 10:53 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Vick, Jackson, Foles, Bryce Brown….Not that I look hard, but it seems the O-line was good and our QB won’t be blasted this year.

  103. 103 Flyin said at 11:07 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    Eagles impressed in some drives. D needs time. O was erratic at times. Some players stood out… Currey i.e.

  104. 104 JB in P-Town said at 11:23 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    So torn between Vick and Foles as the starter. Vick is a human highlight reel and every game I think it’s going to turn into Monday night against Redskins. Couldn’t throw the touchdown pass to Desean any better tonight either. That being said 2011-2012 did happen…and Vick is on a one year deal…and he is in his mid 30s and relies on athleticism to be successful so don’t see that as getting better, only worse. Durability is a huge concern too. Vick as the starter would mean a different offense than Foles/Barkley. WHEN he gets hurt and misses the typical 5-7 games a year the team would need to change the offense and would seem to get set back from a continuity standpoint. Foles starts and you don’t need to change a think with Barkley as the backup. Same system and the team can continue to build with young talent.

    I think we can win a few games this year (5-8) with both but why go with the aging veteran with durability concerns when your window isn’t now (see Eagles tackling and gap assignments). I think Foles starting with Barkley as the backup is the way to go this year.

  105. 105 Always Hopeful said at 11:31 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I think Chip is going to go with who helps him win this year. No, this doesn’t appear to be a team that will make a deep playoff run, but need to establish a winning culture again. It will be fun seeing how this pre-season plays out, and who does end up starting.

  106. 106 JB in P-Town said at 11:34 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    So what do you do if Vick starts and has a good year? Would be a serious contract/age issue I wouldn’t like to deal with if I was Howie Roseman.

  107. 107 Always Hopeful said at 11:43 AM on August 10th, 2013:

    I would love it if Vick has a good year, but we both know that even if Vick has a good year, he’ll miss some games. Durability tends to breakdown with age and Vick already has durability issues.

    Vick could be very dynamic in this offense if he is able to get the ball in the other play makers hands.

    Is Vick 33/34? Could he play at a high level in Chip’s O for the next 2-3 years? I don’t know. His durability would be my biggest concern.

    He’s not going to be the long term starter, but he can be an entertaining one for this year if it works out.

    I still think that the long term starter is not on the roster yet. No disrespect to Foles or Barkley.

  108. 108 phillychuck said at 11:24 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I’m personally very disappointed in the defense. The same problems with lack of effort and missed tackles we saw last year were worse, if anything. Is it some sort of curse that post-Jim-Johnson we are required to play stupid and make lots of fundamental mistakes?

  109. 109 Always Hopeful said at 11:28 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    D was hard to watch, but they are facing more challenges than the offense is, and we know that the talent pool on the defensive side was less than the offensive side when Chip came in.

    It is hard seeing them play so poorly. We have a proud tradition of playing tough, smart, sound defense and we haven’t seen that enough these past few years.

  110. 110 JB in P-Town said at 11:29 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    You would think that is going to be the main focus for Bill Davis now. Scheme doesn’t matter too much when you blow gap assignments and can’t tackle. I just have no patience for poor fundamentals at this level. It’s like watching a high school game…

  111. 111 JB in P-Town said at 11:31 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    I thought Vinny Curry was going to be an afterthought and be out of position in this new scheme…BEAST tonight!

  112. 112 Weapon Y said at 11:53 PM on August 9th, 2013:

    My conclusions:
    1. Vick and Foles both looked great. Barkley showed some good flashes of potential, but needs some work.
    2. The starting offensive line played well. Lane Johnson did great, especially at run blocking.
    3. I can’t really think of any play calls in the first half that I would disagree with from Kelly. I was expecting the tight ends to get more receptions, and more read option plays, but my hunch is Chip is saving them for the regular season.
    4. The starting defensive front seven looked awful. Fletcher Cox disappointed me tonight. Cedric Thornton struggled. DeMeco Ryans didn’t play his A-game (although he doesn’t usually have his A-game in preseason). Graham generated more pressure than Cole did, but he still needs to get to the quarterback faster. Barwin looked ok. Vinny Curry showed that he deserves a chance to steal Thornton’s spot.
    5. Donnie Jones is definitely going to be the Eagles’ punter. He looked awesome.
    6. The Eagles special teams units were way more crisp than the 2012 team. And that was true even when Celek had to be the long snapper. (speaking of which, Howie needs to sign a guy to fill in for Dorenbos ASAP)