PS#2 – PHI 14, CAR 6

Posted: August 15th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 165 Comments »

Good opening half. The offense was terrific, running 35 plays for 257 yards and 2 TDs. The defense still needs a lot of work, but looks worlds better than last week. The Panthers ran 32 plays for 162 yards and just 2 FGs.

Both Foles and Vick looked outstanding. The big difference is Foles throwing a terrible INT in the Red Zone. Shady McCoy…so good. He’s going to be great this year.

The defense is more aggressive and doing a much better job of tackling. Ced Thornton, Mychal Kendricks and Patrick Chung were the guys who really jumped out. Bennie Logan also played well.

Get ready for Matt Barkley in the 3rd Qtr. And Brandon Graham and Vinny Curry.

Good start. Go build on it.


  • Ark87

    was ready for your trickery this time lawlor

    http://blog.themistrading.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/lucy.jpg

    /| how i feel posting on the last half’s thread

  • Corry

    I wanted to see the defense improve from last week and I got it. The Panthers are nowhere near as good on offense as the Patriots are, but I’ll take any improvement.

    • GEagle

      get used to it! Our environment is healthy, our boys are young…Keep improving week to week and we should go into the offseason happy with the direction our defense is headed

  • Septhinox

    Is it true that Carolina was playing their #2 against Vick?

    • Ark87

      mmmm, I thin Munnerlin is a starter, not sure

  • the guy

    If Shady is still out there, we’re storming the castle.

  • Ark87

    so funny seeing all the assistants doing signs on the sideline

    • Crus57

      I swear some of them are doing YMCA

  • Septhinox

    Also Tommy, I went down to my hotel lobby to get something before the game and saw none other than the Minnesota Vikings getting ready to leave for their walk-through (I’m in Buffalo). I recognized Greg Jennings and whispered go Eagles to him. lol

    • GEagle

      attaboy!!! way to represent!

  • Ark87

    “that was for fumbling, jerk” – Matt Barkley

    • Ark87

      “What did I do?!” -Damaris Johnson

      • SteveH

        “that’s for taking the last crossant!” – Matt Barkley

  • SteveH

    Here comes Baldinger with the Barkley hyperbole…

  • Corry

    Did Polk and Johnson give Barkley a wedgie this week or something? Some rookie hazing perhaps?

  • Eagles1991

    Tommy why no Bryce brown tonight?

    • Anders

      quad injury

      • Eagles1991

        Not serious I hope?

        • matthew Verhoog

          Are Quad injury’s ever really serious?

    • matthew Verhoog

      Quad contusion?

  • Ark87

    Vinny freaking Curry

    on a run play no less

  • Flyin

    it’s been a bend don’t break D night so far.

    • Corry

      I’ll take it after the bend and break defense of the past few years.

      • Andy124

        Did they really bother bending before they broke last year?

        • Anders

          No, they just snapped

          • GEagle

            more like spontaneously Combusted or evaporated into thin air

          • Corry

            Pretty sure the defense wet themselves at times too.

          • Andy124

            Trying to douse the flames of spontaneous combustion?

          • Corry

            Exactly.

          • Andy124

            So what was your reaction when Vick went head first on back to back plays?

          • GEagle

            lol didn’t want to be the one to mention it an be the Hater… God Forbid I have to deal with the dreaded “Down Vote” lol

  • Ark87

    2nd dropped int BB, c’mod buddy,

    • matthew Verhoog

      100?

    • TommyLawlor

      He’s messing with us. Gotta make those plays.

  • SteveH

    Boykin gimpy after that breakup, looks like he hit the hip bone hard.

    • Ark87

      i think it was his back, landed flat with a sharp arch on it, due to being yanked by the WR. Hopefully nothing serious

      • Ark87

        looks like he’s fine

        • SteveH

          After that KR I’d say so!

  • GEagle

    thanks for the heads up Tom

  • Flyin

    Chip’s emphasis and hands on ST practice is showing.

    • Jernst

      I am so happy right now

  • Corry

    Between the turnovers and the penalties, Chip’s head is going to explode.

    • Ark87

      that one hurt

  • Ark87

    in hindsight, thinking about the first half, did it seem like Kelce was having trouble with the shotgun snap tonight?

    • Andy124

      Don’t know. Will rewatch tomorrow. It looked like my man Foles was just dropping good snaps tonight. :(

      • Jernst

        yea that’s what i saw too

  • Jernst

    Curry looks unblockable

    • GEagle

      vinnnnnnny!!!

  • Ark87

    wth is that call?

    • Jernst

      have never in 29 years of watching football heard the words non-football act in describing a penalty

      • Anders

        Also apparently dropping into coverage is a non-football act.

        • Andy124

          For the 2012 Eagles, that would be fair.

        • Jernst

          apparently you can drop into coverage, but you can’t do it suddenly. Dumbest rule ever.

          I just don’t understand how there can be a penalty that depends on the offenses reaction to something you do. If Hughes did the exact same thing and the WR stayed still, there’d certainly be no penalty, but apparently if the WR false starts then the exact same act which was totally legal in the alternate universe where the WR doesn’t false start, is now a penalty? Really??

          • Anders

            The funny thing is that linebackers do that all the time when blitzing or faking the blitz.

          • Jernst

            Either you should be allowed to move around before the snap on defense or you shouldn’t be allowed to. In the rules the offense clearly needs to stay set before the snap and the defense can move around. Why complicate it with rules that make the refs guess at the defensive players motivation for moving. If he was trying to get the offensive guy to jump then its a penalty on the defense? Dumb

  • Flyin

    What was that call? Non football act?

    • Dragon_Eagle

      Didn’t look like a double play, a jump shot, or icing to me.

  • Corry

    Vinny Curry: Preseason Probowler.

    • Ark87

      in the first half, their first team 3rd down 4 man front was cole-cox-thornton-Barwin

      in my estimation we need to be smart and rotate graham and Curry in for that package

    • GEagle

      on the first line we have the Beef with Cox, Soap and Thorton…we could end up with a nice change of pace 2nd line of Squares,Vinny, and Benny

  • SteveH

    Curry better carry this over to the regular season…

  • Jernst

    The amount of improvement in time management, special teams, and our QB play really highlights the areas that AR was slipping in towards the end of his time here. Really puzzling how such a good coach could lose touch so quickly.

  • Jernst

    If Salas doesn’t make this team it will be a travesty against humanity

    • SteveH

      I like Salas, I think he should be #4 or 5 at the WR position.

  • Dragon_Eagle

    Looks like F. Jones was gettin’ chewed out. Cut him tomorrow AM.

    • Ark87

      my question, how is tucker so deeper into the dog house than him to not get the nod as #3 for this game?

      • Dragon_Eagle

        Agreed. Jones has shown nothing.

  • JoeD

    You forgot to mention we actually might have good special teams again!!! woohoo!!!!

    • TommyLawlor

      Dave Fipp has done an amazing job.

    • Mitchell

      Can I double upvote? Triple?

  • Ark87

    that was…a lot more physical than i thought Jones could be

  • SteveH

    I like Barkley tonight, he’s thrown a few really nice balls. Still looks like a rookie but looks promising.

    • TommyLawlor

      Promising, but definitely a rookie. Long way to go.

  • GEagle

    I want to win this game!!!!

  • SteveH

    Curry blows up another play. Guy is a preseason monster on the interior.

  • Corry

    Curry is a yard into the backfield by the time the other guys on the line start moving.

    • Jernst

      really impressive first step

      • GEagle

        strong hands too

        • Jernst

          Yea I noticed the hands last year, but the lower body explosion and ability to fire off the ball is truly shocking and impressive.

      • Mitchell

        That explosion is insane. It was literally a simultaneous motion of the ball being snapped and Curry jumping in the backfield.

    • Andy124

      It’s pretty consistent.

    • Jernst

      I really do not remember seeing that type of explosion from him last year. I always thought he showed strength and power with substandard explosion and quickness…not the case at all after watching him more this year.

      • GEagle

        you didn’t see how he would explode off the bench at halftime last year?
        Wherever washburn is right now, he should be Fired Again!!

        • SteveH

          I don’t remember seeing this kind of burst though, he flashed at times as a pass rusher but his get off is really really impressive right now.

          • GEagle

            agreed…was just teasin

        • Jernst

          pathetic that half the time he wasn’t even dressing for games. Instead we had to endure that douche Babin…ugh

          • xlGmanlx

            I was given a hard time calling his sacks the softest sacks I had ever seen.

    • TommyLawlor

      Really explosive on the inside.

      • Mitchell

        The question is, as you stated in your D-line post, is he looking explosive of the end as well? How about against the run? I ask because I can not watch the whole game because I am out of coverage. I’m have to split time with Detroit and Atlanta. Can’t wait for the write up.

        • Jernst

          On first viewing he looked explosive wherever he was coming from. Literally a yard further up field a moment after the snap compared to the rest of the line.

  • GEagle

    B. Grizzle!!!

    • Ark87

      very nice

      • GEagle

        we call that development lol….Hoping chris McCoy shows up

  • deg0ey

    So, I haven’t been able to see any of this game, but looking at the box score it seems like Foles has had a couple of non-terrible rushes. Do we think that he’d be able to gain those 6-7 yards often enough to keep defenses honest in the read option?

    • Andy124

      Yes. Has to stop turning the ball over though.

    • Jernst

      He can keep them honest, I guess…but, let’s be real here, if I was the d coordinator or a defensive player I’d let him try to get that edge every time. He’s painfully slow. 6-7 yards is about the max he’s getting before someone could catch up from the other side of the field.

      • James Adair

        Those 6-7 yards will win the game every time.

    • Ark87

      they kept selling out on shady, first one he ran past the LOS and did a designed over hand lateral backwards to the WR with a blocker on the outside

      2nd one he faked that play for a nice scamper

      3rd one he scampered in for a TD, won the foot race against Luke Kuechly, Cooper had a nice block on the play

    • Anders

      Yes. The DEs clearly dont respect his running

  • Flyin

    I’m watching the Panther’s broadcast of the game. Every time the refs throw a flag they say… “more laundry on the field”. ugh.

    • Crus57

      did they say that when Shady juked half their D out of their jocks?

      • Jernst

        hahahah

  • Jernst

    The LB drops look a lot more refined this game. Haven’t seen any of the LBs looking totally lost in coverage like last game.

    • James Adair

      I thought that Cole did a very good job in coverage this game.

  • GEagle

    lack of talent? we look like we should blow this team out by 40 lol

  • Jernst

    hell yea harbor (edit: never mind)

    • TommyLawlor

      Great effort.

  • pjxii

    I have to listen to the game on Internet radio feed. It’s ironic to hear Merrill Reese reading how “Novacare does a great job of getting you back into the game” or something like that when the Novacare Complex is where we lost three players so far with ACLs.

    • Ark87

      can’t accuse them of not having experience with ACL injuries

      • matthew Verhoog

        practice makes perfect.

    • TommyLawlor

      Irony can be pretty ironic.

  • Ark87

    woah, Earl Wolff, attacking that blocker

    • Corry

      That was something we won’t see from Allen or Coleman. If Chung and Wolff are the starters, i don’t think physicality will be a problem.

      • Jernst

        I long for the day that Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman are no longer part of my weekly football fan experience in any way, shape or form.

  • matthew Verhoog

    Kinnation awaits an appearance from THE ONE.

    • Ark87

      great minds….

    • Andy124

      Big Play G J

  • Ark87

    No GJ kinne returning punts!?!?!

  • Ark87

    wtf was that that Dixon just did there!?

    announcer called it a…slide?

  • Corry

    …Why is Tucker still behind Jones?

  • Jernst

    I’m still intrigued by the fact that Vick seems to be running a completely different offense than the other QBs. I don’t even remember seeing him run a play out of the double wide/TE stack that appears to be the basis of Foles’ offense. Vick looks like he’s running a full NFL passing offense with the occasional option wrinkle and Foles looks like he’s running a completely different offense with gimmicks and misdirection, WR screens and read options galore. Not sure what to make of it yet though.

  • Flyin

    Time for some Momah

    • Flyin

      Nevermind. that was a weak play.

      • Jernst

        yep … practice squad bound

        • Flyin

          3rd and 12. I thought it was a good time to throw it up for him. A dink for 5 yards. Blah

          • Jernst

            I’d love to see him get some work on fades in the red zone. I went to one training camp. They ran some, but didn’t run many fades. Didn’t see him really attack the high point of the ball like I wanted. But, if he ever figures out how to use his size he’d be unstoppable in the red zone.

  • Ark87

    matt Tobin, hands a soft as angel hair

  • Ark87

    Whitley making the most of the opportunities he’s getting

  • Ark87

    signing in plays with philly icon flash cards!?

  • Corry

    The most shocking thing I’ve discovered during the 2nd half of this game is that Derek Anderson and Jimmy Clausen are still on an NFL roster.

    • Ark87

      god help the panthers if newton goes down

      • matthew Verhoog

        GJK is the next best thing

        • Ark87

          honestly, they should sign him, andersen and clausen are garbage, GJ has earned a job in the nfl somewhere. That kid will do and has done anything asked of him, and plays with a lot of guts with his opportunities.

    • SteveH

      Remember when Clausen was a big topic of discussion during the draft a couple years back? I think the Panthers were on the losing end of that one…

  • SteveH

    KINNE.

  • SteveH

    I want to see 1 on 1′s, Clifton Geathers vs. Michael Bamiro. The earth would rattle under the weight of their battle.

  • Ark87

    GJ probably shoulda kept that one

  • Andy124

    Is it just me or has Foles not targeted DeSean once in two games?

    • Jernst

      It does appear that Foles practically ignores DeSean when he’s in there.

      • Ark87

        or DJax disappears when his guy isn’t getting the snaps.

        Can’t make too much out of it when you can spin it either way so easilly

        • Jernst

          Possible, but I think one of these things is infinitely more likely than the other. I think it’s more likely that Foles does not have the skill set to get a guy like DeSean the ball down the field, more so than the notion that DeSean is purposefully tanking it when Foles is in there because he’d prefer to play with Vick.

          • Andy124

            I don’t think either of those options is realistic.

            I found it odd. I wasn’t trying to draw any conclusions from it.

          • Jernst

            You don’t think that Foles’ lack of arm strength decreases his ability to utilize DeSean’s deep speed?

          • Andy124

            To the point of zero targets in 4 drives, no.

          • James Adair

            He has hit him with some deep bombs in 11 vs. 11′s

          • Jernst

            Hitting someone on a 30 yard go route in practice is much different than getting it out there 40-50-60 yards down field and fast enough to get it there before the safeties can get over. I was at 2 of the training camp practices…Foles’ deep ball hangs in the air and takes awhile to get there. The majority of his deep throws were under thrown. Not saying Foles’ is garbage and can’t play in the NFL. He looks pretty decent. But, his lack of arm strength definitely takes away some of Desean’s ability to stretch defenses.

  • SteveH

    GJ Kinne: should he start?

    • Andy124

      Quit trolling… of course he should.

  • matthew Verhoog

    kneeling like a saint.

  • Ark87

    I think Jeff Lurie has Sigmund Freud sitting next to him

  • Flyin

    kneel down… really disappointing.

    • SteveH

      GJ Kinne doesn’t need to prove anything.

      • Flyin

        I regress. Preserve the future of mankind.

  • Ark87

    Love the offense, but we need to get more points out of all those yards. Turnovers again.

    • Andy124

      Turnovers on 67% of Vick’s drives. /s

      • Anders

        he ran 2 drives last week and 3 drives this week. There was 2 turnovers (one was hail mary), so 40%.

        • Ark87

          /s<—-sarcasm

        • Andy124

          The /s indicates sarcasm. Even I’m not biased enough to even try to count Polk’s fumble against Vick.

          But your math is spot on.

          • Anders

            I totally missed that :P

          • Andy124

            lol, all good. Let’s try this again.

            Foles with TDs on 50% of his drives this preseason. Vick on only 40%. /s

  • Ark87

    Hey the D didn’t let anybody into the endzone for the first time in…how long?

    • Andy124

      I don’t think they let anybody in the endzone yesterday.

      • Ark87

        got me there

  • Anders
  • Flyin

    I don’t get a chance to post during games often. Thanks all. It was a lot of fun. My only negative during the 1st half, if I glanced from the tv, I missed a play. Chip is bringing the new NFL world order.