DGR – Defense vs WAS

Posted: September 10th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 64 Comments »

I’m only half done with the DGR, but here is my take on the defense from the opening win over the Skins.

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DEFENSE

Terrific 1st half by the defense. The 3rd quarter was acceptable, but not good. Things got ugly in the 4th quarter. The Skins gained 175 yards and scored 14 points. They had another drive that ended in Eagles territory.

We have to focus on RG3 for part of this. He was rusty in the 1st half and really struggled. He got better as the game went along. He got some help from the Eagles. The coaches began using some backups in the 2nd half, due to injury and fatigue. The Skins took advantage of that.

I wish Bill Davis had run a conventional Nickel look in the 2nd half (4-2-5). He kept using the 3-3-5 look and blitzing off it. With the score 33-7, I wanted to see Graham at LDE and Cole at RDE with Cox and Thornton inside. I’m not sure if Graham and Cole were ever on the field together. The Skins RT struggled all game long. I really wanted to see Graham light him up, but the coaches mostly kept BG on the other side.

I did like the aggressive blitzing approach that Davis took for the first 3 quarters. He turned Cole, Kendricks and Ryans loose and let them attack. The DBs got to blitz. Allen, Chung, Williams and Boykin all were turned loose as blitzers. The Eagles only finished with 3 sacks, but they got regular pressure. RG3 didn’t have a clean pocket for much of the game. He took some big hits and got up sl0w a couple of times.

The pass rush disappeared for parts of the 4th quarter. This is where it would have been so nice to have Vinny Curry in the game. His burst off the ball would have given fits to the Skins OGs. He also could have eaten up snaps at DE and OLB. The Eagles offense failed to sustain drives in the 4th and that kept the defense on the field. The Skins were going no-huddle and that wore the D down.

I don’t think Davis went to a prevent defense in the 4th. He still did mix in some blitzes. I do think he ran some softer coverages, giving up short completions. You can tell that the Eagles need better backup CBs. Boykin is good in the slot, but less effective outside. Poyer should be learning right now, not playing.

I love the fact that there weren’t any bad blown assignments. No Skins receiver was just running wide open. The defense played with a lot of energy and aggression. They flew to the football and gang-tackled most of the time. The defense came up with 3 takeaways and a safety.  I don’t think the defense is as good as they looked early on and I don’t think they’re as bad as they looked late. I think this unit can be good enough to help the Eagles win some games.

MISC

* RG3 started off 13 of 25. He then went 17 of 24. He really did wake up.

* WAS was 2 of 10 on 3rd downs.

* They were 2 of 3 in the Red Zone.

* Skins only ran 18 times for 74 yards.

* They only had 2 plays longer than 20 yards and both came on the final drive.

PLAYS

* Opening 3rd down. Cole at RDE in 3-3-5 look. Barwin, Kendricks and Ryans were the LBs. Barwin rushed the RG. 4 rushed overall. Ryans covered the RB. MK took the TE in the flat. Boykin got the INT while covering down the field.

* Skins first good play came when they lined guys up to the outside and drew Kendricks, Allen out there and then ran to the other side. Got 15 yds.

* The Skins had a bunch set to their right. Kendricks, Allen and Boykin had some confusion about getting lined up. They were bumping into each other just before the ball was snapped. The pass was incomplete, but Kendricks and Boykin talked after the play, as they tried to figure out who should have been where. Didn’t look like the petty sniping we saw last year, but rather guys talking to each other.

* There was a play in the early 4th where Boykin, Nate and Bradley Fletcher failed to get WR Josh Morgan down. Should have limited him to 10 yds, but he fought upfield for 19. Sloppy tackling.

PLAYERS

DL

COX - Quiet for the first 3 Qtrs of the game. Wasn’t much of a factor against the run. Came alive in the 4th Qtr as a pass rusher. Got loose up the middle and got a big shot on RG3 in the early 4th. Beat the RT and got a sack late in the game. Used quick burst and a good rip move to get the sack. Drove the RT back to RG3 and flushed him on the final drive. Cox then chased him out of bounds, giving up just a short gain. Great speed, hustle from the big fella.

SOPOAGA - Solid game. Played better than what we saw in the preseason. Still not the NT that some probably hoped for. Won his share of battles when single-blocked. Didn’t face many double-teams, but did get moved back a yard or two when he faced them. RG tried to block him in the 3rd and Sopes pushed him back a yard. That drew holding call on the RG. Chased RG3 out in space after Geathers flushed him in the 3rd Qtr. Forced an incompletion.

THORNTON - Good game. Got good push from DT late in the 1st half when rushing the passer. Shed block of RG and tackled Morris on inside run. Had chance to get Helu for a loss on 3rd/1, but couldn’t get hold of him cleanly. Did get a TFL when he chased down RB from the backside in the 3rd Qtr. Drove the C right back to RG3 on the play where Ryans got his sack. Great explosion, power from Ced on that play. Batted a pass in the mid-4th. Effective inside rusher. Tough run defender. Finished with 3 tackles, TFL, PD. One play he’d like to have back is the TD run by Morris. Ced hustled down the LOS and left a huge cutback lane. If Ced was more under control there, might have made the tackle.

CURRY - DNP.

GEATHERS - Backup LDE. Showed some flashes. Drove the RT back to RG3 and then dove for the QB. Didn’t get him, but showed good power. On the next play, drove the RG back to RG3. Had a couple of more plays where he showed good power. Needs to be able to finish plays.

LOGAN - Played both DE and NT. Drew a holding call on the C late in the 3rd Qtr. Overall had kind of a quiet game. Was on the field plenty, but didn’t stand out.

SQUARE - Solid showing. Mostly played NT. The Skins didn’t run right at him so Square was able to be effective. Used his hands well to fight off blockers. Got some pressure on pass plays. Moved well laterally on runs. I was pleasantly surprised by Square’s performance.

OLB

COLE - Good game. On his first snap of the season, Cole flew down the LOS and hit RB Alfred Morris, knocking the ball out. The Eagles recovered. Got a gift safety on the 3rd series of the game. RG3 made a poor toss and Morris couldn’t catch it. This was in the end zone. Morris covered the ball and Cole dove on him for the easy 2 points. Got TFL on the next play when run came his way. Got by blocker and wrapped up Morris for short loss. Drew holding call on TE Paulsen on run to his side. Trent just shoved Paulsen out of the way so he could get to the RB and Paulsen grabbed his arm and wouldn’t let go. Got a good hit on RG3 on deep ball in the mid-2nd Qtr. On the next snap, Cole blew up a run. Got by a pair of blockers and hit the RB in the backfield. Runner managed to get back to the LOS. Cole got hits on RG3 on several plays. Some were in the backfield, others up the field and one out in space. Trent was in the right spot and took his shots when he could. Credited with 4 tackles, TFL and a FF.

BARWIN - Set the edge on run play to open the 2nd series. RB was forced to stay deep and bounce the run out further to the outside. Pursuit helped get a TFL. Made good open field tackle on WR screen on early 2nd Qtr play. Most impressive moment came on 3rd/long play. Eagles rushed just 3. Barwin beat the RT and RG3 took off the other way. Barwin chased him down and only gave up a couple of yards on the play. Great hustle, impressive speed. Beat block of TE to get some pressure in the early 3rd. Jumped offside in the early 4th and that led to sloppy play where Skins got 19 yds. Had a chance for a sack in the mid-4th. Split blockers and got into the backfield, but RG3 used his voodoo moves to escape from Barwin. Got pressure off the edge on the next play, which was 4th/15. That kept RG3 from getting zip on the ball and allowed Williams to knock it down. Showed his versatility. Covered. Rushed. Played the run. Sometimes rushed off the edge. Other times came inside and tried to shoot gaps.

GRAHAM - Played some DE late in the half. Used power moves a couple of times. Beat LT Trent Williams with a speed move and got pressure on RG3 on one play. Played some OLB in the 2nd half. Blew up a run play. Drove the TE back, then drove the LT back. RB had nowhere to go and pursuit got him for a TFL, but Graham made the play. Had a chance to rush the passer a lot in the 4th Qtr and wasn’t getting pressure. LT did a good job on him. I was disappointed that Brandon got a chance to rush the passer in a known passing situation and didn’t get more pressure.
ILB

KENDRICKS - Good game. All over the place. Made things happen. Recovered fumble on opening play. Cole knocked it loose and it came right to Mychal. Helped get TFL on next series. Barwin did a good job of setting the edge. That gave MK a good angle to the runner and he flew over to help knock the guy out of bounds. Did a great job on the play of staying square to the LOS. Did a good job on a screen pas in the mid-1st Qtr. Read the play, moved through traffic and made a good wrap-up tackle. Exploded up the middle on a blitz at the end of the half and literally slammed RG3 to the ground. Clean, but hard hit. Shed block of FB and tackled Morris on 3rd Qtr run. Got a big hit on RG3 late in the 3rd Qtr and forced an errant pass. Credited with 10 total tackles, TFL, FR and a couple of QB hits.

RYANS - Wasn’t as flashy as Kendricks, but re-watch the game and you’ll be impressed. Blitzed in the 3rd Qtr and drove the LG back close to RG3. Good power for an ILB. Did that on some run plays as well. Gave me Trotter flashbacks. Ryans isn’t 260, but he runs into blockers at full speed and will knock the crap out of them. Ran over the LG on a pass play just after that. So much fun to watch. Got a sack in the mid-3rd. Came on a Green Dog. That is when the RB stays in to block. Ryans was supposed to cover him. When the RB stays in, the LB has a green light to blitz (known as a dog in older football circles). Active tackler in the run game. None were standout plays. Had a big hit on CB Bradley Fletcher that gave him an apparent concussion. Did a good job with making on-field adjustments to the defense.

MATTHEWS - Played some defense in the 2nd half.

KNOTT - Played some on defense. Came over and hit receiver after catch over the middle. Should have made a wrap-up tackle. Showed good hustle on a run play. Got out wide and helped gang-tackle a RB.

GOODE - Didn’t see him on defense.

S

ALLEN - More of the same. Didn’t make any mistakes, but also failed to stand out. Was in on 6 total tackles. Blitzed in the early 3rd, but RG3 got rid of the ball before anyone could get near him. Threw pick to Williams on that play. Came up in run support to help Thornton with TFL in the 3rd Qtr. Made tackle of TE after catch over the middle. Slung him to the ground. Solid tackle. There were a couple of plays where he was too passive in trying to help make tackles, but overall he was effectively aggressive.

CHUNG - Mixed bag. Good vs the run. Was in on 7 total tackles. Blitzed up the middle and helped pressure RG3 into an errant throw. Came flying up in run support and made a strong tackle of Morris. Made a clean tackle of Moss in the early 4th Qtr. Awful job at the end of the game. Eagles were in Cover 3. Chung needed to stay deeper than the deepest. Let WR get behind him. Compounded that by mis-timing his jump and letting the ball over his head. TD for the Skins. Should have been incompletion or a pick. Chung can’t make coverage mistakes like that.

WOLFF - Played very little on defense.

COLEMAN - Didn’t see him on defense.

CB

FLETCHER - Had 4 solo stops. Made a strong, physical tackle of Garcon after catch in the early 3rd. Had tight coverage of Robinson on 4th Qtr pass and kept it from being completed. More effective when pressing than playing off, but we knew that already. Got knocked out of the game late by a hit from Ryans. Could have used him on that final drive.

WILLIAMS - Good game. Had tight downfield coverage on deep ball to Garcon. Incompletion. Got a sack in the 2nd Qtr. WR lined up tight to the formation. Cary fired off the edge and hit RG3 from the backside. He jumped on his back. Physical takedown. Some CBs can blitz, but don’t know how to finish. Cary did a good job of getting RG3 down. Made a beautiful diving INT in the early 3rd. Great hands on the play. Made a great play on 4th/15. Saw RG3 put the ball over the middle to Robinson. Cary flew over and knocked it away without any contact. Great read and break on the ball.

HUGHES - DNP

BOYKIN - Good game. Came up with his first NFL INT on the opening 3rd down play. Was in the slot. Stayed underneath the receiver since he had S help over the top. RG3 forced the ball into coverage and Boykin made the pick. Blitzed on 3rd down in early 2nd Qtr. Started outside, but looped hard to the inside and came free up the middle. RG3 got rid of the ball just before BB got there. Tackled Helu on 3rd down run play. Gave up a couple of yds, but made a good stop. Broke up pass to Moss over the middle in the mid-4th. Great body control to get in front of the WR and knock the ball away, but without contact. Got to blitz on a few plays. Funny to see Boykin going against OTs.

POYER - Played on defense in the 2nd half. Gave up a TD to Hankerson. Played off and was simply slow to close to the receiver after he made the catch. Easily ran into the endzone. Had good coverage of Moss in the 4th on 3rd/2 play along the sideline, but missed the ball by inches and Moss made the grab. Made good tackle of Garcon late in the game after a short catch. Closed to the ball quickly on that play. Got better as the game went along, but looked like a rookie.

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ST’s

I’m pretty sure Dave Fipp is the greatest coach ever. He makes Bear Bryant and Vince Lombardi look like hacks. Amazing what a difference a year makes. The Eagles STs are actually…good.

JONES - Good game. First punt was fair caught at the 4-yd line. Another punt was fielded inside the 10. Put a punt out of bounds at the 6-yd line. Had another punt fair caught at the 11-yd line. 4 of his 6 punts were downed inside the 20. Had a long of 61.

HENERY - Nailed a 48-yd FG. Actually kicked it twice. Kelly decided to challenge a play just as Henery was making the kick. I wondered if that would affect Henery, but he came back after the challenge was denied and that kick was even straighter than the first. Plenty of distance. 3 of his 6 KOs were touchbacks. The other 3 had good depth and were well-covered.

- MISC -

KOR – Damaris returned one from deep in the endzone and got 27 yds on that. He was desperate to take a chance. Other KOs he showed good discipline and stayed in the endzone. DeSean returned the free kick after the safety and got 10 yds on that.

PR – There was one fair catch and a couple of punts that went out of b0unds.

* Anderson, Casey combined for good stop on punt return in the early 2nd Qtr.

* Chris Polk made a great tackle in KO coverage. That pinned the Skins at the 9-yd line.

* Najee Goode and Brandon Boykin combined for a good tackle in KO coverage late in the half.

* Brandon Boykin had a good night as a gunner on punts.

* Brandon Graham flew downfield to make a good tackle in punt coverage.

* Jordan Poyer made a good stop in punt coverage.

* The onside kick at the end of the game was nerve-wracking. Jason Avant had the ball come right to him, but he couldn’t make a clean grab. He did get control of the ball as others got to him. Jake Knott flew over and jumped on Avant, to shield him from Skins players. Not pretty, but effective.

GAMEBOOK

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  • BC1968

    Although the onside kick was nerve wracking, the whole thing was moot after the penalty on the kicking team. The rule is not a re kick like it used to be. That ends the game doesn’t it?

    • TheRogerPodacter

      so if the eagles did not recover that kick, what is the outcome?
      they do not have the option to force a re-kick? that seems… unfair. lol.

      • Steag209

        The end result of the penalty is receiving team’s ball regardless of who recovers it. Same as if it went out of bounds, I believe

  • Stormbringer

    Very good writeup.

    I don’t blame any of the D-line or the LBs not getting pressure towards the end of the game as RGIII was taking those short passes and bubble screens pretty much every play. The ball was gone in 2 seconds or so there there is no way the pressure gets home unless someone comes totally unblocked. Bill Davis needs to not concede those short passes at the end.

  • Jerry Goldstein

    Thanks for the in-depth analysis as usual Tommy. Have you considered adding a letter grade to the players performance? I always read the write-up for the starters but some backups I just want to know how they did without having to read the details.

    • Neil

      I’m not necessarily speaking for Tommy, but the problem with assessing players is you can’t really quantify their performance on a hard scale. First, you have to be extremely specific about what each degree on the scale means; otherwise it’s not meaningful. Second, it’s almost impossible to reconcile a performance like Chung’s which was solid until that one horrible play. Do you give him a low grade for missing on the most basic of plays or a higher grade for being mostly solid? Just give him a C? Is that really the same thing as the guy who got a C for being consistently average? No matter what you do, so much nuance and information is lost that the result is basically worthless. There are no shortcuts when it comes to subjectively analysing a guy’s performance if you want to avoid being wrong.

      • anon

        I preferred pass/fail classes in school too. The players get graded by the coaches. I think a general impression grade is ok. Chung played well, but let up a big play B.

        • Neil

          Yeah, everything I’m saying applies to grades in school too. Especially in school, the grades just make you THINK you know something. But you can never really tell me more than a letter, which will make different impressions on each of us of how the student did. You might think B is a good grade for Chung, but I might be the kind of person who, if I knew nothing but “B”, assumed that meant Chung had a good game where he didn’t make any big gaffes of execution. That is, unless we both devised a comprehensive, hard system and trained ourselves to understand it the same way. Probably not worth the effort.

      • Jerry Goldstein

        Great post. I didn’t think about that way.

        • ICDogg

          Another problem: a good game for, say, Chris Polk, deserving of an “A”, because it would be the best you could possibly expect from him, would still be maybe a “C” by Shady standards. So the grades would really not be very useful for comparison purposes.

          • Neil

            Well, depends on how you formulated the scale. You could make the scale useful for comparisons by making it 1, get him off the field, to 10, JJ Watt in 2012. Still, the guy who’s a 5, how can you tell if that’s due to physical limitations or the guy is playing on his heels due to bad coaching? You could fix that by anchoring it to talent like what you’re talking about, and you’ll run into that problem you mention.

            The big, big point leading to all these problems is, if we’re introducing a scale system, it’s to “compress” information in order to make it faster to learn it. The problem always is how do you do that without compromising the QUALITY of the information? If you know a guy got a C or a 5 or whatever rating, at best you only know a fraction of what the guy who read the full breakdown knows. At worst, that little fraction you have is actually going to give you a mistaken notion of how a player did.

            You can ensure the bestcase scenario by making an airtight, reproducible grading system with such clear, well thought out guidelines that multiple people can watch the same player and come out with the same grade. This would be a monumental effort. Anything less and chances are the grade is not only going to be meaningless but misleading.

          • ICDogg

            But even if you did that the information would be useless in telling you how well a particular player did on a particular day, because it would be missing the context of whether he did his job as well as he was capable of doing it.

          • Neil

            Yeppers. It would take a lot of effort and ingenuity to make a simple rating system that doesn’t seriously hemorrhage information compared to Tommy’s simple descriptions. If it’s even possible. You could have multiple ratings to cover these angles but then having the readers, especially new ones, get up to speed…hay caramba.

  • Andy

    According to the snap counts Graham was on for 17 and Cole was on for 62 of the 78 defensive snaps… Meaning that they must have been on together at least one snap unless there was an error or something…

  • OregonDucker

    First, Dave Fipp is a ST God! Incredible ST play. Did you notice the ST player behind the receiver to stop it going into the endzone or more importantly to recover a potential fumble?

    I agree with the 4-2-5 suggestion. Curry on the edge would have been awesome! Since opposing teams will usually be pretty far behind the Eagles in the second half, they have to forego the run and look to quick hit touchdowns. Duck D always took chances during these times and so should the Eagles D. Keep 5 DBs back to prevent a homerun but stunt the heck out the DL and LBs to disrupt the pass.

  • nicolajNN

    You mention that Boykin looked better inside than outside, how big a difference is it, and more importantly why do you think that is? Is it an mmmbop situation where it’s physical limitation, or is he just more comfortable inside at this point?

    • ICDogg

      It’s sort of the same thing as when you put Avant on the outside at receiver. You take away the best parts of his game.

    • anon

      I think they’re trying to develop him — but based on gameplay i think it’s unanimous that he’s better in the slot, which is an important role given slot receivers in this league.

  • Corry

    The difference in Special Teams still stuns me. We should be the most improved team in that regard.

    Tommy did you think the playcalling got a bit stale for the defense in the 2nd half? Seemed like the pressure was designed to come up the middle over and over again. It worked early, but seemed like the 4th quarter it was nowhere to be seen.

    • anon

      I think it’s a case of not showing too much + prevent defense, same on offense. My hope is that he’ll alter the looks / gameplan on a weekly basis so we don’t see same blitzes. That said they were effective and will be more effective against a less mobile QB.

  • TheRogerPodacter

    Tommy, amazing work. i can’t believe you were able to crank this out so fast!

    • P_P_K

      That down arrow was a mistake, I meant to hit reply.

      If there is a Pro Bowl for bloggers, T-Law will be in the starting lineup.

      • SteveH

        Yes, but what position would he play?

  • TommyLawlor

    Here is your oddball question of the day.

    http://eaglesblog.net/2013/09/odd-question-of-the-day/

    • OregonDucker

      Perhaps the Eagles benefited because of the Skins D score but there was the real possibility of the whole Eagles team being demoralized by it.

      The Eagles ability to bounce back is a testament to belief in the scheme, the coaches and one another. You can’t make this stuff up. This team is solid and committed to win.

      Chip, the coaches and the players showed their true hearts. We are all better for it.

      • Neil

        Lord knows I was demoralised by it.

        • Flyin

          OregonDucker has a short memory regarding the Eagles. Therefore, he did not have to endure the flashbacks of years past that haunt those of us that have been following the Eagles for years.

          That said, it was great seeing the Eagles bounce back the way they did.

          • fran35

            I agree. Not sure how long OregonDucker has been an Eagles fan, but this team has made it their business to allow teams to come back and break our hearts.
            Chip may be a smart coach, but lets temper our enthusiasm until this team proves clutch consistently.
            This defense has found ways to break our hearts through the years.
            And before anyone speaks blasphemy, Jim Johnson was a proven NFL genius. Chip has yet to show those chops.

          • mksp

            who cares what the eagles of the reid years did. new regime. was great to see them bounce back.

    • livingonapear

      I think it also helped that it was a bad call. Over the past 2 years, we’ve had brilliant drives short circuited by stupid mistakes, but they were OUR mistakes. This one you can chalk up to, “We got screwed, they have more points, but we looked better.”

      I think the defense having no rest was not a factor since it happened so early in the game. If that had happened in the 3rd quarter, I would agree with you, but teams can usually absorb fluky things happening on the opening drives because everybody is still fresh.

    • Matthew Verhoog

      I thought the same thing. What we should really do is drive the lenght of the field and then run back for a safety.

    • Arby1

      In the future, can we just score on the opening drive and then recover the following fumbled kickoff? Same net effect without any of the unnecessary messiness.

    • mksp

      my takeaway from this idea is that if we score early in the game, we should go for an onside kick.

      we either (a) get the ball back.

      or (b) play aggressive defense with a short field. either force a turnover/quick 3-and-out or give up a quick TD.

      either way D is back on the field.

      i know its crazy. but so is the original question. so why not consider it.

      • TommyLawlor

        I think there is logic in this answer.

  • dislikedisqus

    Avant’s approach to the onside kick was weird. Shouldn’t he have fallen forward, over the ball, as opposed to leaning back from it?

  • SteveH

    Kills me that Curry is inactive. D was tremendous until we went to soft coverages. They didn’t score a single point on the D until 6 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

    I was impressed with the gameplan Bill Davis has. It felt like a lot of our blitzes were
    disrupting the Skins offense, and some of the sacks were very timely (Meco’s in particular game at a good time).

  • SteveH
    • ICDogg

      I don’t want to trade him. I want to play him.

  • Phils Goodman

    The Eagles only finished with 3 sacks, but they got regular pressure. RG3 didn’t have a clean pocket for much of the game.

    That’s true, but the Eagles were almost totally reliant on the blitz to get that pressure. That could be a vulnerability against a QB who is playing at a higher level.

    • Flyin

      Question: When you play a 3-4 D and rush a LB (4 rushers total), is that considered a blitz?

      • Neil

        No, I don’t think anyone does. Some people even consider 5 rushing also to not be a blitz.

        • Flyin

          Thanks. So “a blitz” is not easily quantified.

        • Warhound

          Who? Five or more is a blitz. If a 4-3 team drops an end into coverage and brings a CB (for example) it’s an exotic rush (not a blitz).

      • Warhound

        No!

        • Flyin

          Path… that way ->

  • A_T_G

    Some of the Curry comments made me smile. Granted I want to see him on the field too, but the tone of the comments has gone from “Woe is me, I hope our offense can pull off a few wins in shoot outs this year,” to “We need to be better prepared to run our prevent defense when we have embarrassing leads in the second half from now on.”

    I think Tommy might be right when he says the hype might get a little out of hand.

    • Flyin

      I wanted a shutout not a shootout. Nor the tale of two halves. This team let me down. Flush the hype, I’m staying balanced on my trike.

      • RC5000

        You haven’t learned to walk yet so I don’t even see how you get on your trike.

  • A_T_G

    So, Tommy or anyone not jaded by the last few seasons, which is preferred from a safety? Nate’s solid, but unspectacular showing or Chung’s more aggressive play with the one big mistake?

    (And no cheating and saying you want solid and aggressive without mistakes. If that was an option we wouldn’t be discussing safety play.)

    • Flyin

      Preferred would be a Dawk clone.

      • A_T_G

        CHEATER!

        But so true…

        • Flyin

          “Great dreams”

    • Neil

      I have to go with Nate so far. The most essential quality of a safety is not giving up big plays. You hold the opponent to running another play in order to score, your odds of a turnover or forcing 4th down are above zero.

  • BreakinAnklez

    Not eagles related but so pumped!! Dos a Cero!!!!

  • Arby1

    Chipper, Sconces, Shady all get game balls.

    • Arby1

      and Trent.

      • Flyin

        I respect all you mentioned and deserve props. There is only one game ball and that is what makes it special.

  • Daniel Norman Richwine

    Give Washington credit. they played well in the second half.

  • RC5000

    Way off topic but Andy Reid gunna be in town in a little over a week…hard to believe

    • P_P_K

      I really, really hope we smack down the Chiefs.

  • GermanEagle

    Good job as usual, Tommy. However I disagree that both Trent and Cary only had ‘good’ games. They were both great!

    Unfortunately this doesn’t apply to Nate. If we could trade for JB somehow, our D would become above average in a moment and make the Eagles a true competitor for the NfCE win this year.

  • westy36

    I think the worst thing I saw yesterday was how Cox got pushed back at least five yards on the run with 7:53 left in the 3rd quarter. It would have been a bad play if he got pushed that far back by a tackle, but he was single blocked by a tight end. Hopefully he can pick it up as the season goes along but that play was pretty disconcerting.

  • Gusta Laydner

    That MK play in the first quarter on a screen pass to Alfred Morris was very good. He faced a double block, but he managed to get rid and make the tackle. Really really good play! It was my favorite player on the defense! Very exciting to see what he’ll do during this season.