Sunday Moves

Posted: September 1st, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 98 Comments »

Sorry for the late post. I’ve got some family in town today.

LB Chris McCoy, WR Russell Shepard and TE Clay Harbor were claimed off waivers. McCoy and Harbor went to the Jags. Shepard is going to Tampa.

I hate losing McCoy because of his potential, but he wasn’t going to be a big factor this year anyway. We can debate his long term potential. I thought he could be a good backup, but I’m not sure about him as a starter, partially due to the fact that he’ll turn 27 in November.

Shepard has good potential, but needs development.

Curtis Marsh was cut and the Eagles added CB Shaun Prater from the Bengals. He is 5-10, 190.

Per Reuben Frank, the Eagles were talking to the agent of CB Roc Carmichael, from the Texans. He was a 4th round pick in 2011. No word on if anything will happen there.

The Eagles have added a few players to the practice squad.

OT Michael Bamiro

WR Greg Salas

RB Matt Tucker

LB Travis Long

I’ll have more updates later. Busy day.

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98 Comments on “Sunday Moves”

  1. 1 OregonDucker said at 2:14 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    CB Shaun Prater claimed by Eagles from Bengals. http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/Shaun-Prater/b95b12bd-2d5a-4510-8e2c-55dc5a1ea39e

    Marsh waived.

  2. 2 GermanEagle said at 2:17 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    So no Shead, Guy or Parker from the Seahawks. Christmas did really turn out to be Easter today. 🙁

  3. 3 GEagle said at 3:38 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Like trying to pickup chicks on Craigslist lol

  4. 4 Media Mike said at 3:39 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    That is easy, but sometimes those chicks come with “something extra” if you’re not reading the fine print. Be careful GEagle!

  5. 5 GEagle said at 3:41 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Hahahahaha I think I’ll pass on the cyber pimpin

  6. 6 planetx1971 said at 4:30 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    YIKES, That might just have been the most sobering call to reality yet…..

  7. 7 jackpotsdad said at 2:23 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Bummed that Shepard and McCoy were both claimed off waivers. Always thought teams go after the cuts of good teams – something the Birds were not last year.

  8. 8 planetx1971 said at 4:38 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I’m especially bummed about McCoy. Ya “Probably wouldn’t be a big factor this year” how many guys on this D right now will be?? A couple on the D-line sure,but from there on back it just gets more and more dire. We are REBUILDING. I’d so much rather have a guy that may take a year to develop, than keep no upside Mathews on the 53 man THIS year……

  9. 9 OregonDucker said at 4:40 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I tend to agree but as Tommy pointed out McCoy was not good on runs. We need better run protection – re Jets and Jags PS.

  10. 10 mheil said at 2:28 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I think they will regret cutting Shepard, great ST player with offensive potential who had chance to be active. Maehl will be inactive absent an injury. He was the one bubble player I was hoping they wouldn’t cut.

  11. 11 A_T_G said at 2:43 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Yeah, Sheppard is the one cut I think we could regret in a few years. Some of the others were JAGs that can be debated as better or worse than the JAGs still on the roster, but Sheppard has the potential to be more, and the ability to earn his keep on ST until he gets there.

  12. 12 Media Mike said at 2:53 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I agree………….unless another shoe drops at WR and Maehl gets cut.

  13. 13 RC5000 said at 3:06 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    You never know, sometimes teams move players on and off their practice squads. Bucs claimed Vandervelde last year and look where he is now.

  14. 14 BlindChow said at 9:05 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    Sure, but no one was upset to lose Vandervelde…

  15. 15 ICDogg said at 3:19 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    ,.

  16. 16 shah8 said at 3:22 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I think that the Russell Shepard drop was a miss as well. McCoy simply wasn’t physically talented enough to stick. The better mess up comparison was Casey Matthews vs Shepard and not vs McCoy.

  17. 17 Anders said at 4:57 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Shepard couldnt get seperation against scrubs. He really need to learn how to run good routes before he can become anything more than just a ST player.

  18. 18 shah8 said at 5:33 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Casey Matthews can’t do anything particularly well, and is matched by Shepard’s special teams play. Being able to run routes is a skill, and one where Shepard could easily grow past Matthews.

  19. 19 Anders said at 7:11 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    yea, but Kelly want people that can contribute right now and Sheppard got outplayed at WR by Maehl and Matthews had a better summer than many people care to admit.

  20. 20 planetx1971 said at 4:10 PM on September 2nd, 2013:

    IF Shepard was as impressive as I’ve heard as a Gunner on ST’s as I’d heard. Basically even close to the caliber of Colt Anderson, I would’ve preferred Shepard based on which of the 2 had more of a shot to get on the field outside of ST’s, I would think it’d been R.S. Both positions aren’t exactly “solid” that’s for certain. So either way, I guess it was a Crap shoot I guess ….

  21. 21 OregonDucker said at 2:40 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    CB Prater – “Sounds like a Marvin Lewis/Mike Zimmer kind of corner that can dole out the punishment while also being smart enough to not get himself killed. He’s got all the qualities of a nickel corner, but the coaches think he can play all over.”

    http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/A-look-at-The-Invisible-Man/98736255-18d2-41e1-89f9-c48a32157ca7

  22. 22 ICDogg said at 3:03 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    This is how he announced his coming to Philly this morning

    God is good its only dark temporarily but the light will shine again for another opportunity lets go to work. Eagles— Shaun Prater (@Shaun_Prater) September 1, 2013

  23. 23 bentheimmigrant said at 3:05 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    What? No Super Bowl guarantee? I want a refund.

  24. 24 RC5000 said at 2:46 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    This is off topic but I always like looking back at drafts. And with McGloin in Oakland and the rumor they wanted Barkley in the draft in the 4th round it is interesting to hear. Not that I think Barkley is the future franchise QB either. I really liked Tyler Wilson but wasn’t impressed with his year, then I wasn’t impressed with his Senior Bowl practices and he kept losing traction.

    2013 fourth-round draft pick Tyler Wilson was waived Sunday, ProFootballTalk reported citing a league source.

    Wilson struggled mightily throughout the summer and was outplayed by undrafted rookie Matt McGloin. Wilson’s status as a fourth-round pick seemed to be the only reason he made it past Saturday, but he couldn’t dodge the axe once the waiver wire opened. By cutting Wilson Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was willing to admit he missed badly on the that pick.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000237196/article/raiders-reportedly-cut-rookie-quarterback-tyler-wilson?campaign=Twitter_atl

  25. 25 Media Mike said at 2:55 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    +1 Bill O’Brien!

  26. 26 ICDogg said at 3:14 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    McGloin really beat some long odds in beating out a draft pick for a QB spot as a UDFA. That does not happen often.

  27. 27 shah8 said at 3:18 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    That’s largely a function of how dysfunctional the Raiders are. McGloin isn’t athletic enough to do better than say, Greg McElroy. Would you seriously rather have him than Skelton, for instance?

  28. 28 Media Mike said at 3:19 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Except McGloin comes from the premier NFLQB talent development guy in Bill O’Brien.

  29. 29 jshort said at 3:32 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    McGloin, being from my part of PA, makes me happy for the kid. was on the local news before heading out west. He was determined..maybe sticks around a couple years as a back up. Good for him!!

  30. 30 RC5000 said at 3:29 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Skelton has terrible accuracy and he’s not getting any younger either.

  31. 31 shah8 said at 3:32 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    twue, twue…

    However, have you actually seen McGloin play?

  32. 32 RC5000 said at 3:38 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Yes actually I have watched him a lot through much of his career and he isn’t great but then neither is anyone else in this convo, He’s nothing special but he did improve with O’Brien who got the most out of him.

  33. 33 shah8 said at 3:45 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Nothing special is right. Doesn’t have the arm, hands, OR legs to survive in a real game. Wiles are a function of veteranhood…

  34. 34 RC5000 said at 3:52 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Sure he’s a 3rd QB.

  35. 35 shah8 said at 4:02 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    This is on a team that’s thinking of trying to start a seventh rounder, Flynn, who clearly doesn’t have the physical talents to play. The next man up, Pryor, is much better as a passer than he used to be, but he’s still pretty marginal. Little YAC for any of his receivers, and one always worry about reversion to shot-putting. He has some moves on the ground, but really? Joe Webb is both a better passer *and* runner than Pryor. There are a number of backup QBs who’d be better. Tarvaris Jackson, Tyrod Taylor, Jason Campbell, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson, maybe even Vince Young, who’d been let go for inaccuracy and fumbling and just being an all around dumb guy. The Raiders QB situation is a nuclear waste dump that, for all intents and purposes, is dependent on Pryor developing to being a reasonable passer on a consistent basis. Not Troy Smith/Rex Grossman’s handful of big plays amidst a bunch of incompletions sort of play.

  36. 36 holeplug said at 8:54 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Oakland is tanking for Teddy Bridgewater. Pretty obvious at this point.

  37. 37 ICDogg said at 4:16 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Clearly he’s no G.J. Kinne.

  38. 38 ICDogg said at 3:08 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Churning the bottom of the roster is going to be happening all season. Eventually we’ll have a few guys worth keeping.

  39. 39 GermanEagle said at 3:20 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    First it was a firefighter, now a wannabe agent Mulder, who’s next, an OLB who rather wants to be an astronaut?!

  40. 40 Media Mike said at 3:26 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    As I said over on 24/7, they’re trying to put together the Village People roster.

  41. 41 ICDogg said at 3:27 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Acho Acho Man….

  42. 42 Media Mike said at 3:29 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    ha ha ha ha ha ha

  43. 43 GEagle said at 3:40 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    nACHO libre

  44. 44 GEagle said at 3:40 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Anyone know if DBs Dexter McCoil and Rontez Miles made nfl rosters?

  45. 45 ICDogg said at 3:50 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    McCoil is a Raider. Miles on Jets P Squad

  46. 46 GEagle said at 9:45 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Thanks

  47. 47 GermanEagle said at 3:50 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Since the Eagles were awarded only one player it makes me wonder if they put in a claim for McCoy, Harbor and Shepard…!

  48. 48 ICDogg said at 3:53 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Chiefs claimed about 5 guys, Jags 7 guys. Not sure if any were guys we tried to claim. Don’t know if Raiders claimed anyone ahead of us either.

  49. 49 GermanEagle said at 3:59 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Jags claimed S Guy who was let go by the Seahawks. There’s one possibly miss for the Eagles.

  50. 50 ICDogg said at 4:00 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Yeah, that’s likely

  51. 51 ICDogg said at 3:55 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Jaguars announced as waived: Antwon Blake, Brett Brackett, Dan Gerberry, Kyle Love, Lonnie Pryor, Jordan Shipley, Andy Studebaker (released).

  52. 52 Media Mike said at 3:56 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Ah good ole Andy Studebaker, graduate of one of America’s biggest pile of trash universities.

  53. 53 ICDogg said at 3:58 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Jaguars claims: WR Stephen Burton, S Winston Guy, TE Clay Harbor, G Jacques McClendon, DE/OLB Chris McCoy, LB J.T. Thomas, TE D.J. Williams

  54. 54 shah8 said at 4:05 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    How many of those guys wish they were picked up by the Eagles?

  55. 55 GermanEagle said at 4:08 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    1.0

  56. 56 ICDogg said at 4:01 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I know it will be a great shock to you all, but Danny Watkins cleared waivers

  57. 57 P_P_K said at 4:52 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    It kind of is a shock. I wonder how often a 1st rounder flames out like this.

  58. 58 Anders said at 4:54 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    More often than Eagles fans think. They think he is the biggest bust of all time

  59. 59 ICDogg said at 4:56 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I think no team wants to touch him until after his next bonus comes due from the Eagles. So he’ll probably start looking for work in October. Or maybe he’ll just take his fire truck home and stay there.

  60. 60 Anders said at 4:59 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Yea, if he was picked of waivers, he would keep his rookie contract, but if he clearls waivers, he will have to sign just a vet minimum contract.

    Consider how bad guard play is around the NFL and how much better he looked this year than last, he wont be out of work for long.

  61. 61 ICDogg said at 5:42 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I think there’s more to it… something having to do with offsets and timing of bonuses and such, which makes it more lucrative for Watkins to wait until October

  62. 62 PK_NZ said at 5:02 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Jaguars seem to have a thing with Eagles rejects…

  63. 63 A_T_G said at 6:57 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I wonder if Gus is hoping to show up Chip.

  64. 64 BlindChow said at 8:57 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    It did look like they stole his no-huddle fast-break offense this preseason..

  65. 65 ACViking said at 5:20 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Re: Shaun Prater / Eulogy on C-Mc

    Prater’s a 5th Rder from 2012 draft (No. 156 overall).

    3 spots earlier, the Eagles selected OT Dennis Kelly.

    And 1 rd earlier, the Birds drafted Boykin.

    After the draft, it seemed the Eagles were *loaded* w/ CBs. Not so much 1 year later.
    ________________

    I wonder if Prater — at 5’10 190 in your program . . . and short on top-end speed — is someone the Eagles liked for the slot.

    If Williams or Fletcher go down, then Boykin moves outside (hopefully).

    Maybe Prater (not Hughes / Poyer) jumps in the slot.
    ________________

    QUESTION: Someone wrote earlier that Prater’s nicked up.

    Any more info on that?
    ________________

    With Chris McCoy going to Jax and Gus Bradley, my first reaction was . . . OMG — it’s Chris Clemens all over again.

    That would be awfully depressing, even if McCoy’s only 85% as productive in part-time work.
    _________________

    And . . .

    WHY IS GRAHAM NOT STARTING? (the all caps should get Davis’s attention!)

  66. 66 Anders said at 5:25 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Prater had a knee injury last year. Dont think he had any this year.

    McCoy is most likely a career backup, but the Jags really need pass rushers (their main guy is Babin). Also McCoy have zero strength against the run and unless he fixes that, he is never going to be more than a backup

  67. 67 OregonDucker said at 5:48 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Prater had patellar tendinitis. First time I have seen this injury. He is now healed and ready for mayhem. Based on media comments Prater is in the mold of Chung, i.e. likes to hit.

    Hopefully Davis is building a Mean Team Gang Green.

  68. 68 ACViking said at 6:11 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    PT is well known in Philadelphia.

    Phillies 2nd baseman Chase Utley lost a good part of 2011 and 2012 to that very injury. Cost him some power, even now that he’s full timing it.

  69. 69 Anders said at 7:18 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Prater seems a lot like Poyer to me.

  70. 70 BreakinAnklez said at 10:25 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Utley has it…I have it….never really goes away.

  71. 71 RC5000 said at 6:17 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    It’s not at all like Chris Clemons, he played 32 games here and had 8 sacks for Oakland before he came to us and appeared in 68 career NFL games before he left so it’s just not a comparison. McCoy has not played 1 game in the NFL I am pretty sure.

  72. 72 BobSmith77 said at 5:49 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    John Clayton brought it today talking to Bill Polian. Both agreed no team in the NFL have a tougher opening schedule than the Eagles:

    – 3 games in 10 days (@ DC, SD, KC) followed by
    – 3 consecutive road games (@ Den, @NYG, @ TB)

    The Eagles are the only team besides the Titans to have 3 consecutive road games too and no bye until Week 12.

    I’d be quite happy with 3-3 and competitive football given that schedule.

  73. 73 Gary said at 6:05 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    This after last year when we played, what, four or five teams that were coming off their bye? Schedule makers not doing us any favors lately.

  74. 74 ACViking said at 6:15 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Back in the 70s, the Cowboys, Raiders, Vikings, and Steelers used to get the non-divisional cake schedules. (The “formula” hadn’t been invented yet.)

    As for the Birds? The schedule-maker must have said, “Who the hell are the Eagles . . . they’re lousy every year.”

    When the Eagles start winning again, I think the these problems will disappear. Good for the NFL’s business.

    Hope so, at least.

  75. 75 P_P_K said at 12:03 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    Yup, this part of the schedule sucks. The bright side is that with a few good bounces of the ball, the first three games are all winnable. Imagine beating Andy in his return to Philly and sitting at 3-0.

  76. 76 BobSmith77 said at 12:23 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    I see 2-4 and en route to a 6-10 season.

  77. 77 Vick or Nick said at 8:12 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I hope I’m wrong but I have a bad feeling Eagles are gonna regret keeping Mathews instead of McCoy and Maehl instead of Shepard. Maybe its just me.

  78. 78 Vick or Nick said at 8:17 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    And I guarantee Jags were not the only team to claim McCoy.

  79. 79 Anders said at 8:48 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Shepard would make no impact this year over Maehl. Shepard needs to learn how to run a route first. McCoy is 27 years old and had to play in the CFL and he lacks strength in the worst of ways (when you are 260 and get blocked by somebody 60 pounds less than you, you lack strength)

  80. 80 Vick or Nick said at 10:35 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    All fixable with time in weight room and coaching. For a team thats not going anywhere this season why keep guys that aren’t goin to get better vs guys who could be (potentially) good.

  81. 81 Anders said at 10:46 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    That is not Kelly’s mind set. He wants to win now.

  82. 82 Vick or Nick said at 2:05 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    Thats just politics. Don’t have the pieces yet because of horrendous drafting. Past two years plus next years loaded draft class and the Eagles can contend in 2014.

  83. 83 Anders said at 2:37 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    Players do not work that because of none guaranteed contracts and a coach would instantly lose the locker room if he tried to tell em to suck.

  84. 84 Vick or Nick said at 10:37 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    Of course not. But no one was going to say “Chip’s tanking” if he kept McCoy/Shepard over Mathews and Maehl. I just think it would have been worth keeping developmental prospects that could contribute later in the year. But lets see. Im not ready to judge yet.

  85. 85 ICDogg said at 8:39 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    “If we pick up Kyle Love our D Line Could Look Like This”

  86. 86 ICDogg said at 8:40 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    not sure why that came out twice

  87. 87 jackpotsdad said at 9:00 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    A solid B for effort 🙂

  88. 88 RC5000 said at 9:54 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Well they do already have Travis Long on the PS and he could play with his hand in the dirt on some downs.

  89. 89 GEagle said at 9:47 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    This is awesome!

  90. 90 RC5000 said at 8:48 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Trenton Robinson Safety from 49ers to Practice Squad?

    http://www.mlive.com/sports/bay-city/index.ssf/2013/09/philadelphia_eagles_sign_trent.html

  91. 91 RC5000 said at 9:39 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I ran across this old draft article on Eagles website that just happened to have 2012 draft profile stuff on Prater and Trent Robinson. Had something from Scouts Notebook (Matt) but unfortunately it was other sites.

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Draft-Buzz—Defense/20066062-d0fa-4a6d-b6ad-cec626b5c98b

  92. 92 bleeds_gr33n said at 9:48 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Still waiting on a safety Howie.. Please don’t enter the season with these as our safeties.

  93. 93 RC5000 said at 9:52 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    These are our safeties. They added Trenton Robinson to the practice squad according to a report though.

  94. 94 bleeds_gr33n said at 9:54 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Thanks for the info, I hadn’t seen they signed Robinson.

  95. 95 RC5000 said at 9:55 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    I posted a link below this to the report. It hasn’t quite been confirmed with local reports/Eagles yet.

  96. 96 GEagle said at 9:54 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Whatever safeties they ad won’t help this defense in 2013

    It is what it is…best we can hope for is Wolff developing quickly and take not so nasty Nates job

  97. 97 RC5000 said at 10:16 PM on September 1st, 2013:

    Trenton Robinson just tweeted this in addition to the report. He didn’t mention the Eagles but…

    Trenton Robinson ‏@T_Robinson39 41m

    Peace out to all my 49er bros and Fans it was fun and thanks for the love and support while I was here✌

  98. 98 Vick or Nick said at 10:41 AM on September 2nd, 2013:

    As Eagles fans I really hope we keep our expectations in check. Would it be great if Chip can replicate in philly what Harbaugh did in San Fran? Of course. But being realistic Harbaugh at least inherited a great D (with much better drafted players) and had just enough weapons on offense. Chipper inherited a good, inconsistent offense and an atrocious defense. Let’s see what he can do with it. But all this “Win Now” talk is great for locker room just hoping the fans are realistic.