Sunday Moves
Posted: September 1st, 2013 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 98 Comments »Sorry for the late post. I’ve got some family in town today.
LB Chris McCoy, WR Russell Shepard and TE Clay Harbor were claimed off waivers. McCoy and Harbor went to the Jags. Shepard is going to Tampa.
I hate losing McCoy because of his potential, but he wasn’t going to be a big factor this year anyway. We can debate his long term potential. I thought he could be a good backup, but I’m not sure about him as a starter, partially due to the fact that he’ll turn 27 in November.
Shepard has good potential, but needs development.
Curtis Marsh was cut and the Eagles added CB Shaun Prater from the Bengals. He is 5-10, 190.
Per Reuben Frank, the Eagles were talking to the agent of CB Roc Carmichael, from the Texans. He was a 4th round pick in 2011. No word on if anything will happen there.
The Eagles have added a few players to the practice squad.
OT Michael Bamiro
WR Greg Salas
RB Matt Tucker
LB Travis Long
I’ll have more updates later. Busy day.
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CB Shaun Prater claimed by Eagles from Bengals. http://www.bengals.com/team/roster/Shaun-Prater/b95b12bd-2d5a-4510-8e2c-55dc5a1ea39e
Marsh waived.
So no Shead, Guy or Parker from the Seahawks. Christmas did really turn out to be Easter today. 🙁
Like trying to pickup chicks on Craigslist lol
That is easy, but sometimes those chicks come with “something extra” if you’re not reading the fine print. Be careful GEagle!
Hahahahaha I think I’ll pass on the cyber pimpin
YIKES, That might just have been the most sobering call to reality yet…..
Bummed that Shepard and McCoy were both claimed off waivers. Always thought teams go after the cuts of good teams – something the Birds were not last year.
I’m especially bummed about McCoy. Ya “Probably wouldn’t be a big factor this year” how many guys on this D right now will be?? A couple on the D-line sure,but from there on back it just gets more and more dire. We are REBUILDING. I’d so much rather have a guy that may take a year to develop, than keep no upside Mathews on the 53 man THIS year……
I tend to agree but as Tommy pointed out McCoy was not good on runs. We need better run protection – re Jets and Jags PS.
I think they will regret cutting Shepard, great ST player with offensive potential who had chance to be active. Maehl will be inactive absent an injury. He was the one bubble player I was hoping they wouldn’t cut.
Yeah, Sheppard is the one cut I think we could regret in a few years. Some of the others were JAGs that can be debated as better or worse than the JAGs still on the roster, but Sheppard has the potential to be more, and the ability to earn his keep on ST until he gets there.
I agree………….unless another shoe drops at WR and Maehl gets cut.
You never know, sometimes teams move players on and off their practice squads. Bucs claimed Vandervelde last year and look where he is now.
Sure, but no one was upset to lose Vandervelde…
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I think that the Russell Shepard drop was a miss as well. McCoy simply wasn’t physically talented enough to stick. The better mess up comparison was Casey Matthews vs Shepard and not vs McCoy.
Shepard couldnt get seperation against scrubs. He really need to learn how to run good routes before he can become anything more than just a ST player.
Casey Matthews can’t do anything particularly well, and is matched by Shepard’s special teams play. Being able to run routes is a skill, and one where Shepard could easily grow past Matthews.
yea, but Kelly want people that can contribute right now and Sheppard got outplayed at WR by Maehl and Matthews had a better summer than many people care to admit.
IF Shepard was as impressive as I’ve heard as a Gunner on ST’s as I’d heard. Basically even close to the caliber of Colt Anderson, I would’ve preferred Shepard based on which of the 2 had more of a shot to get on the field outside of ST’s, I would think it’d been R.S. Both positions aren’t exactly “solid” that’s for certain. So either way, I guess it was a Crap shoot I guess ….
CB Prater – “Sounds like a Marvin Lewis/Mike Zimmer kind of corner that can dole out the punishment while also being smart enough to not get himself killed. He’s got all the qualities of a nickel corner, but the coaches think he can play all over.”
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/A-look-at-The-Invisible-Man/98736255-18d2-41e1-89f9-c48a32157ca7
This is how he announced his coming to Philly this morning
What? No Super Bowl guarantee? I want a refund.
This is off topic but I always like looking back at drafts. And with McGloin in Oakland and the rumor they wanted Barkley in the draft in the 4th round it is interesting to hear. Not that I think Barkley is the future franchise QB either. I really liked Tyler Wilson but wasn’t impressed with his year, then I wasn’t impressed with his Senior Bowl practices and he kept losing traction.
2013 fourth-round draft pick Tyler Wilson was waived Sunday, ProFootballTalk reported citing a league source.
Wilson struggled mightily throughout the summer and was outplayed by undrafted rookie Matt McGloin. Wilson’s status as a fourth-round pick seemed to be the only reason he made it past Saturday, but he couldn’t dodge the axe once the waiver wire opened. By cutting Wilson Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie was willing to admit he missed badly on the that pick.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000237196/article/raiders-reportedly-cut-rookie-quarterback-tyler-wilson?campaign=Twitter_atl
+1 Bill O’Brien!
McGloin really beat some long odds in beating out a draft pick for a QB spot as a UDFA. That does not happen often.
That’s largely a function of how dysfunctional the Raiders are. McGloin isn’t athletic enough to do better than say, Greg McElroy. Would you seriously rather have him than Skelton, for instance?
Except McGloin comes from the premier NFLQB talent development guy in Bill O’Brien.
McGloin, being from my part of PA, makes me happy for the kid. was on the local news before heading out west. He was determined..maybe sticks around a couple years as a back up. Good for him!!
Skelton has terrible accuracy and he’s not getting any younger either.
twue, twue…
However, have you actually seen McGloin play?
Yes actually I have watched him a lot through much of his career and he isn’t great but then neither is anyone else in this convo, He’s nothing special but he did improve with O’Brien who got the most out of him.
Nothing special is right. Doesn’t have the arm, hands, OR legs to survive in a real game. Wiles are a function of veteranhood…
Sure he’s a 3rd QB.
This is on a team that’s thinking of trying to start a seventh rounder, Flynn, who clearly doesn’t have the physical talents to play. The next man up, Pryor, is much better as a passer than he used to be, but he’s still pretty marginal. Little YAC for any of his receivers, and one always worry about reversion to shot-putting. He has some moves on the ground, but really? Joe Webb is both a better passer *and* runner than Pryor. There are a number of backup QBs who’d be better. Tarvaris Jackson, Tyrod Taylor, Jason Campbell, Kirk Cousins, Josh Johnson, maybe even Vince Young, who’d been let go for inaccuracy and fumbling and just being an all around dumb guy. The Raiders QB situation is a nuclear waste dump that, for all intents and purposes, is dependent on Pryor developing to being a reasonable passer on a consistent basis. Not Troy Smith/Rex Grossman’s handful of big plays amidst a bunch of incompletions sort of play.
Oakland is tanking for Teddy Bridgewater. Pretty obvious at this point.
Clearly he’s no G.J. Kinne.
Churning the bottom of the roster is going to be happening all season. Eventually we’ll have a few guys worth keeping.
First it was a firefighter, now a wannabe agent Mulder, who’s next, an OLB who rather wants to be an astronaut?!
As I said over on 24/7, they’re trying to put together the Village People roster.
Acho Acho Man….
ha ha ha ha ha ha
nACHO libre
Anyone know if DBs Dexter McCoil and Rontez Miles made nfl rosters?
McCoil is a Raider. Miles on Jets P Squad
Thanks
Since the Eagles were awarded only one player it makes me wonder if they put in a claim for McCoy, Harbor and Shepard…!
Chiefs claimed about 5 guys, Jags 7 guys. Not sure if any were guys we tried to claim. Don’t know if Raiders claimed anyone ahead of us either.
Jags claimed S Guy who was let go by the Seahawks. There’s one possibly miss for the Eagles.
Yeah, that’s likely
Jaguars announced as waived: Antwon Blake, Brett Brackett, Dan Gerberry, Kyle Love, Lonnie Pryor, Jordan Shipley, Andy Studebaker (released).
Ah good ole Andy Studebaker, graduate of one of America’s biggest pile of trash universities.
Jaguars claims: WR Stephen Burton, S Winston Guy, TE Clay Harbor, G Jacques McClendon, DE/OLB Chris McCoy, LB J.T. Thomas, TE D.J. Williams
How many of those guys wish they were picked up by the Eagles?
1.0
I know it will be a great shock to you all, but Danny Watkins cleared waivers
It kind of is a shock. I wonder how often a 1st rounder flames out like this.
More often than Eagles fans think. They think he is the biggest bust of all time
I think no team wants to touch him until after his next bonus comes due from the Eagles. So he’ll probably start looking for work in October. Or maybe he’ll just take his fire truck home and stay there.
Yea, if he was picked of waivers, he would keep his rookie contract, but if he clearls waivers, he will have to sign just a vet minimum contract.
Consider how bad guard play is around the NFL and how much better he looked this year than last, he wont be out of work for long.
I think there’s more to it… something having to do with offsets and timing of bonuses and such, which makes it more lucrative for Watkins to wait until October
Jaguars seem to have a thing with Eagles rejects…
I wonder if Gus is hoping to show up Chip.
It did look like they stole his no-huddle fast-break offense this preseason..
Re: Shaun Prater / Eulogy on C-Mc
Prater’s a 5th Rder from 2012 draft (No. 156 overall).
3 spots earlier, the Eagles selected OT Dennis Kelly.
And 1 rd earlier, the Birds drafted Boykin.
After the draft, it seemed the Eagles were *loaded* w/ CBs. Not so much 1 year later.
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I wonder if Prater — at 5’10 190 in your program . . . and short on top-end speed — is someone the Eagles liked for the slot.
If Williams or Fletcher go down, then Boykin moves outside (hopefully).
Maybe Prater (not Hughes / Poyer) jumps in the slot.
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QUESTION: Someone wrote earlier that Prater’s nicked up.
Any more info on that?
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With Chris McCoy going to Jax and Gus Bradley, my first reaction was . . . OMG — it’s Chris Clemens all over again.
That would be awfully depressing, even if McCoy’s only 85% as productive in part-time work.
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And . . .
WHY IS GRAHAM NOT STARTING? (the all caps should get Davis’s attention!)
Prater had a knee injury last year. Dont think he had any this year.
McCoy is most likely a career backup, but the Jags really need pass rushers (their main guy is Babin). Also McCoy have zero strength against the run and unless he fixes that, he is never going to be more than a backup
Prater had patellar tendinitis. First time I have seen this injury. He is now healed and ready for mayhem. Based on media comments Prater is in the mold of Chung, i.e. likes to hit.
Hopefully Davis is building a Mean Team Gang Green.
PT is well known in Philadelphia.
Phillies 2nd baseman Chase Utley lost a good part of 2011 and 2012 to that very injury. Cost him some power, even now that he’s full timing it.
Prater seems a lot like Poyer to me.
Utley has it…I have it….never really goes away.
It’s not at all like Chris Clemons, he played 32 games here and had 8 sacks for Oakland before he came to us and appeared in 68 career NFL games before he left so it’s just not a comparison. McCoy has not played 1 game in the NFL I am pretty sure.
John Clayton brought it today talking to Bill Polian. Both agreed no team in the NFL have a tougher opening schedule than the Eagles:
– 3 games in 10 days (@ DC, SD, KC) followed by
– 3 consecutive road games (@ Den, @NYG, @ TB)
The Eagles are the only team besides the Titans to have 3 consecutive road games too and no bye until Week 12.
I’d be quite happy with 3-3 and competitive football given that schedule.
This after last year when we played, what, four or five teams that were coming off their bye? Schedule makers not doing us any favors lately.
Back in the 70s, the Cowboys, Raiders, Vikings, and Steelers used to get the non-divisional cake schedules. (The “formula” hadn’t been invented yet.)
As for the Birds? The schedule-maker must have said, “Who the hell are the Eagles . . . they’re lousy every year.”
When the Eagles start winning again, I think the these problems will disappear. Good for the NFL’s business.
Hope so, at least.
Yup, this part of the schedule sucks. The bright side is that with a few good bounces of the ball, the first three games are all winnable. Imagine beating Andy in his return to Philly and sitting at 3-0.
I see 2-4 and en route to a 6-10 season.
I hope I’m wrong but I have a bad feeling Eagles are gonna regret keeping Mathews instead of McCoy and Maehl instead of Shepard. Maybe its just me.
And I guarantee Jags were not the only team to claim McCoy.
Shepard would make no impact this year over Maehl. Shepard needs to learn how to run a route first. McCoy is 27 years old and had to play in the CFL and he lacks strength in the worst of ways (when you are 260 and get blocked by somebody 60 pounds less than you, you lack strength)
All fixable with time in weight room and coaching. For a team thats not going anywhere this season why keep guys that aren’t goin to get better vs guys who could be (potentially) good.
That is not Kelly’s mind set. He wants to win now.
Thats just politics. Don’t have the pieces yet because of horrendous drafting. Past two years plus next years loaded draft class and the Eagles can contend in 2014.
Players do not work that because of none guaranteed contracts and a coach would instantly lose the locker room if he tried to tell em to suck.
Of course not. But no one was going to say “Chip’s tanking” if he kept McCoy/Shepard over Mathews and Maehl. I just think it would have been worth keeping developmental prospects that could contribute later in the year. But lets see. Im not ready to judge yet.
“If we pick up Kyle Love our D Line Could Look Like This”
not sure why that came out twice
A solid B for effort 🙂
Well they do already have Travis Long on the PS and he could play with his hand in the dirt on some downs.
This is awesome!
Trenton Robinson Safety from 49ers to Practice Squad?
http://www.mlive.com/sports/bay-city/index.ssf/2013/09/philadelphia_eagles_sign_trent.html
I ran across this old draft article on Eagles website that just happened to have 2012 draft profile stuff on Prater and Trent Robinson. Had something from Scouts Notebook (Matt) but unfortunately it was other sites.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Draft-Buzz—Defense/20066062-d0fa-4a6d-b6ad-cec626b5c98b
Still waiting on a safety Howie.. Please don’t enter the season with these as our safeties.
These are our safeties. They added Trenton Robinson to the practice squad according to a report though.
Thanks for the info, I hadn’t seen they signed Robinson.
I posted a link below this to the report. It hasn’t quite been confirmed with local reports/Eagles yet.
Whatever safeties they ad won’t help this defense in 2013
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It is what it is…best we can hope for is Wolff developing quickly and take not so nasty Nates job
Trenton Robinson just tweeted this in addition to the report. He didn’t mention the Eagles but…
Trenton Robinson @T_Robinson39 41m
Peace out to all my 49er bros and Fans it was fun and thanks for the love and support while I was here✌
As Eagles fans I really hope we keep our expectations in check. Would it be great if Chip can replicate in philly what Harbaugh did in San Fran? Of course. But being realistic Harbaugh at least inherited a great D (with much better drafted players) and had just enough weapons on offense. Chipper inherited a good, inconsistent offense and an atrocious defense. Let’s see what he can do with it. But all this “Win Now” talk is great for locker room just hoping the fans are realistic.