NYG 12, PHI 0 – 2nd Half

Posted: October 27th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 399 Comments »

Mike Vick is out and Matt Barkley is in. Vick really struggled. He didn’t look healthy and was hesitant with his reads. The offense struggled so Chip Kelly replaced him with Barkley late in the 2nd Qtr.

Barkley then led the Eagles right down the field. Unfortunately he made a horrible decision in the Red Zone and held the ball way too long. He was sacked, fumbled and the Giants recovered.

Barkley was 6-7-55. The offense came to life with him in the game. Was that a fluke or can he keep the offense going in the 2nd half?

This is still a very winnable game. The Eagles get the ball to open and a TD could really change things.

Barkley has to be smart in the Red Zone. Can’t force things. Might help if Chip Kelly ran the ball and gave Shady a chance to make a play down there.

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399 Comments on “NYG 12, PHI 0 – 2nd Half”

  1. 1 BlindChow said at 2:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I won’t believe Barkley can complete a scoring drive until it actually happens.

  2. 2 DarthBanner said at 2:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Awful job by Kelly at the end of the half. Run the damn ball on 1st and goal from the 2 with 1 minute left and 2 timeouts. Why is he in such a hurry to give the ball back to the giants with time left to do something, especially when the eagles get the ball to start the half? If he just manages the situation correctly his rookie QB isn’t in a position to make the critical error.

  3. 3 GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Preach

  4. 4 GermanEagle said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    CK is becoming a worse play caller than AR in his first season.

  5. 5 shah8 said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Remember NO last year? Reid was worse… Passing on your first down shouldn’t be a crime.

  6. 6 SteveH said at 2:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I feel like Chip has lost confidence in the run today. Seems like he’s gotten away from it and honestly I’m not sure I blame him. OL has not been opening up anything for anyone.

  7. 7 Allen3000 said at 2:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’m really disappointed in Chip’s play calling there at the 2 yard line. Sure, Barkley held on to the ball too long, but seriously, hand the freakin’ ball off to McCoy or somebody on 1st down. Don’t get cute. You’re down 12-0, you need those points. Ugh.

  8. 8 T_S_O_P said at 2:37 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If the Giants have to respect the pass, maybe we can run??? The last game and a half, must be the longest ever we have had with completely ineffective QB play since the Brad Goebel era! πŸ™

  9. 9 BlindChow said at 2:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It depends on who’s making the tackles. If it’s defensive linemen beating their blocks, then a competent passing game won’t make a difference.

  10. 10 A_T_G said at 2:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    And if they don’t have to respect the pass in the second half, the G.J. Kinne era can begin. Win, win, really.

  11. 11 BobSmith77 said at 2:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Put in Pat Ryan?

  12. 12 BobSmith77 said at 2:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This is basically the first ‘gut check’ for the Eagles this year. Curious to see how they respond in the 2nd half especially on opening drive where the O-line got outmuscled and manhandled in the 1st half.

  13. 13 BlindChow said at 2:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I think Barkley gave them a spark going into half time, even with the fumble.

  14. 14 pkeagle said at 2:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    My faith in Chipper is being severely tested at the moment. First time he’s faced a team for the second time and he seems clueless – don’t put all the blame on just the players

  15. 15 Iskar36 said at 2:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No question that Chip is to share in part of the blame.

  16. 16 GEAGLE said at 2:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Can we score a point at the Linc?

  17. 17 bdbd20 said at 2:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    So I’m thinking Foles passes his IMPACT test this week. Just a feeling.

  18. 18 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    As awful as that 1st half was, I am (foolishly) heartened by the fact that this is the Giants-Eagles. Games are invariably odd and come down to late game weirdness.

  19. 19 Always Hopeful said at 4:09 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    We almost got what you said…not to be a homer but wasn’t THAT offensive pass interference on Myers when he two hand shoved Kendricks away from him? Just saying…

  20. 20 BobSmith77 said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hopefully Kelly gave them a little Pacino-like pep talk at halftime.

  21. 21 A_T_G said at 2:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Johnson returned one past the 20! There is the spark we need.

  22. 22 BobSmith77 said at 2:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Lack of concentration penalty. Can’t have that.

  23. 23 A_T_G said at 2:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Barkley’s cadence gives everyone trouble.

  24. 24 BobSmith77 said at 2:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Finally some push up front.

  25. 25 A_T_G said at 2:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I am pretty sure Barkley won’t be keeping any of those read options. We are on our last QB.

  26. 26 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No. Casey is active.

  27. 27 BlindChow said at 2:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Johnson has some experience there…

  28. 28 BlindChow said at 2:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Soooo…FG or turnover?

  29. 29 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    TD – can’t be wrong twice.

  30. 30 bdbd20 said at 2:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Well, that was different.

  31. 31 BlindChow said at 2:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The Eagles FIND A WAY.

  32. 32 DamonL86 said at 2:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Sigh

  33. 33 DamonL86 said at 2:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That is pathetic

  34. 34 Insomniac said at 2:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Cooper was open…

  35. 35 GEAGLE said at 2:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I can’t take Chip Kelly..

  36. 36 Corry said at 2:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    We’re going to get shutout.

  37. 37 GEAGLE said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    We deserve it

  38. 38 TommyLawlor said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nah, Barkley is moving the ball. Points will come.

  39. 39 GermanEagle said at 2:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Dream on.

  40. 40 shah8 said at 2:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Is it me, or is that crowd at the stadium emo-vamps? Feels dead on that big third down…

  41. 41 Iskar36 said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Can you blame anyone? Not much to cheer for with this team right now.

  42. 42 A_T_G said at 2:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Did you already forget? Johnson returned it to the 24!

  43. 43 bdbd20 said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    You can only give your fans crap for so long. We have the luxury of changing the channel. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot of early exits.

  44. 44 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    What? Last week, in the wind, we go for a 60 yarder. This week, we do what?

  45. 45 TommyLawlor said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The wind was at Henery’s back last week.

  46. 46 Insomniac said at 2:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yea….back to studying for midterms..

  47. 47 GermanEagle said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    LolEagles.

  48. 48 pkeagle said at 2:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They may not have scored but Barkley didn’t turn the ball over either I suppose πŸ™‚

  49. 49 Iskar36 said at 2:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Well… turnover on downs is still a turnover in a sense… I guess it’s not directly put on Barkley though.

  50. 50 pkeagle said at 2:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That’s what I meant

  51. 51 shah8 said at 2:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It’s a turnover on downs.

  52. 52 shah8 said at 2:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Looking at box scores, I’m definitely pining for Josh Gordon. Look at it, and realize that Jason Campbell is a conservative passer. Gordon has to be absolutely plastering a good KC defensive backfield.

  53. 53 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Dawkplex!!

  54. 54 GEAGLE said at 2:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    ATleast we just spiked Cruz thru the turf

  55. 55 Corry said at 2:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Bradley Fletcher just Dawkplexed Cruz.

  56. 56 SeanofDead said at 2:51 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nice Suplex there by Fletcher….. I would have gone with a tombstone pile driver, but, to each his own.

  57. 57 Corry said at 2:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    People’s Elbow.

  58. 58 bdbd20 said at 2:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Powerbomb.

  59. 59 DarthBanner said at 2:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Soo, is Kelly trying for the shutout?

  60. 60 GermanEagle said at 2:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why do we always get ex cowgirls Or gnats commentators lately? Why would you throw a flag, for a frigging body slam?!!

  61. 61 A_T_G said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yon can hurt someone’s feelings doing that!

  62. 62 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nate friggin Allen.

  63. 63 bdbd20 said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That actually looked like a good football play.

  64. 64 Iskar36 said at 2:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Wait, that’s not right. I didn’t think we were allowed those today.

  65. 65 Corry said at 2:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It’s allowed on Defense. Just not on Offense.

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    2nd big hit of the game for him on a big play.

  67. 67 Flyineagle45 said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    i hate this

  68. 68 SeanofDead said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hey, DBS out there making tackles again

  69. 69 pkeagle said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Allen getting better each week

  70. 70 shah8 said at 2:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yes, yes he is…

  71. 71 Flyineagle45 said at 2:54 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    he must have heard my cries’

  72. 72 A_T_G said at 2:54 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Agreed

  73. 73 GEAGLE said at 2:54 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That’s exactly what I was talking about in the diffence defending crossing routes..we got killed early in the season because Nate was scared to death. Look at the difference now that Nates balls finally dropped

  74. 74 A_T_G said at 2:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Glad to see you on board.

  75. 75 DamonL86 said at 2:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That is awful

  76. 76 bdbd20 said at 2:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I believe the correct term is “Clowney”

  77. 77 ACViking said at 2:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    2 weeks ago, we all said the Offense will win and the defense will tag along.

    Right now, we’re looking like the 1971 Vikings . . . but without the D-line.

  78. 78 shah8 said at 2:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The OL is playing very poorly, outside of just two drives. One pass blocking was good, the other, run blocking was good.

  79. 79 A_T_G said at 2:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If there is a team that is memorable 40 years later, we do not look like them. We are thoroughly forgettable.

  80. 80 BobSmith77 said at 2:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    You can blame the play calling but that is the third time this game on 3rd and short where the Eagles ran and their o-line got blasted back. Doesn’t matter what the call is which just a poor effort & execution.

  81. 81 GermanEagle said at 2:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’d be shocked if the Eagles win this. The Giants outplay us on offense, defense and special teams.

  82. 82 DamonL86 said at 2:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I will be shocked if we put up points

  83. 83 GermanEagle said at 2:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    According to Tommy our time will come…

  84. 84 Weapon Y said at 2:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This week you’re going to hear a lot of Chip Kelly-Steve Spurrier comparisons on ESPN. “Go back to college, chump. Clearly you aren’t as good as that genius Andy Reid who made an offensive assistant coach his defensive coordinator.”

  85. 85 BlindChow said at 2:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Possibly, but he may get slack on account of Barkley.

  86. 86 Flyineagle45 said at 2:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    i hear andy is considering bringing his personal chef in as an advisor

  87. 87 Weapon Y said at 3:03 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    ESPN doesn’t give anyone slack especially not the Eagles

  88. 88 GermanEagle said at 2:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If anybody really thinks that Chip doesn’t want/need an athletic QB in his offense is INSANE.

  89. 89 Flyineagle45 said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Cam

  90. 90 Flyineagle45 said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    im talking to howie about it right now

  91. 91 Iskar36 said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yea, that’s what I’m starting to believe. All that talk about “He could run a successful offense with Brady” I’m starting to question.

  92. 92 GermanEagle said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That talk was utterly rubbish. I will be shocked if Mr Football won’t be wearing Eagles green next year.

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If Chip can’t run the ball with the best back in the NFL without having a mobile QB, then he has no business being here,,,and his pass offense had WR open all game last week but FOles sucked

  94. 94 BlindChow said at 2:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Eli keeps stealing sacks from our defense.

  95. 95 SeanofDead said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Was just thinking I’d like to see Intentional Groundings Forced as a stat on defense

  96. 96 Corry said at 3:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They should just count as a sack. It’s really just as good.

  97. 97 ACViking said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Eagles starting at the 5 . . .

    NOW we will hear the NFL Films music as Barkley pulls a Ken Stabler and marches the Eagles downfield

  98. 98 TommyLawlor said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That would have been so nice.

  99. 99 BlindChow said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    3rd and long. I smell trouble.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    BRAMA BULL BARWIN!!!!

  101. 101 Corry said at 2:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Connor Barwin is the only player who deserves to be paid today.

  102. 102 bdbd20 said at 3:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The entire D has played well. Offense has put them in horrible position all day.

  103. 103 Corry said at 3:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    True, I’m just tired of the uninspired play on one half of our team.

  104. 104 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Disagree. Defense is putting together another solid game. Offense is just embarrassing.

  105. 105 Flyineagle45 said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    ill take a check

  106. 106 Spooonius said at 3:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I think the D is solid. They’re giving us a chance.

  107. 107 DamonL86 said at 3:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Comical

  108. 108 Flyineagle45 said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yea this movie sucks

  109. 109 GEAGLE said at 3:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Geez Barkley can’t start backed up like this

  110. 110 OregonDucker said at 3:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It is a very, very dangerous situation.

  111. 111 TommyLawlor said at 3:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The defense has played better since Barkley came in the game. No points, but at least some hope. Helps the D to play with more energy.

  112. 112 Flyineagle45 said at 3:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    hey get howie on the horn and tell him to get newton!

  113. 113 ACViking said at 3:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This game is NOT over.

    Yes, Barkley looks shaky.

    But the defense is playing 1980-style Eagles football.

    All the Eagles need is 1 turnover and TD.

    They can win this game.

  114. 114 Iskar36 said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nope.. That’s only 7 to 12. We need more than that, and I’m not sure we’ll get it.

  115. 115 ACViking said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    What I meant is . . . then the Birds have Big Mo

  116. 116 BlindChow said at 3:03 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Jesus, will Barkley KEEP the ball ONCE??

  117. 117 DamonL86 said at 3:03 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Great awareness

  118. 118 ACViking said at 3:03 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Re: Intentional Grounding

    I’ve never seen a season when more IGs have been called.

  119. 119 DamonL86 said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    What are you doing run forward

  120. 120 BlindChow said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    God you are kidding me.

  121. 121 scratcherk said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why did Jackson avoid the first down? Is he tired of the offense being on the field?

  122. 122 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Scared my dog yelling about that one.

  123. 123 Corry said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yeah, both my dogs are cowering at the moment.

  124. 124 BlindChow said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    He deserves a treat.

  125. 125 bdbd20 said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I really hope DJax isn’t pouting about Vick. That play was an easy first down. The effort on the punt was also concerning.

  126. 126 Corry said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Holy shit if he just keeps running he gets the first!

  127. 127 Spooonius said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yeah, i thought the same thing about Cooper’s catch earlier. Too much ‘playmaking’

  128. 128 scratcherk said at 3:04 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This season is becoming unwatchable.

  129. 129 jshort said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    here comes another score

  130. 130 OregonDucker said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    30 yard punt? What? SMH

  131. 131 mksp said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Wow, Barkley put that ball on the money. DeSean and Shady are not playing well. Starts with the QB, but neither is getting it done to this point. Too much dancing, diving. GET UPFIELD.

  132. 132 Insomniac said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Can we see what Kinne can do yet?

  133. 133 Flyineagle45 said at 3:06 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    all our qbs are pretty much career backups im done seeing what they can do… and dont care what they potentially can do because I doubt its good

  134. 134 pkeagle said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Typical Iggles – as D improves over the past few weeks, the O regresses

  135. 135 GermanEagle said at 3:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    lol @ value pick (Matt Barkley).

  136. 136 mksp said at 3:06 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That was on DeSean.

  137. 137 DamonL86 said at 3:06 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yeah that was horrible effort by desean

  138. 138 GermanEagle said at 3:10 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I meant to say that Barkley and Chip don’t match. Waste of

  139. 139 ACViking said at 3:06 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Anyone think DeSean’s head is in this game?

  140. 140 Flyineagle45 said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    no hes thinking of lyrics for his next song

  141. 141 ACViking said at 3:06 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    T-LAW . . .

    NOW we hear the music.

  142. 142 A_T_G said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Is it a fat lady singing?

  143. 143 Weapon Y said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I can just hear Merrill Hoge now: “The Eagles never should have fired Andy Reid. He was a genius who never did anything wrong. They should be ashamed for disrespecting this man by hiring a college coach. And everyone knows college coaches are total idiots.”

  144. 144 shah8 said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I may just give up on this game and watch the Browns KC. That one looks competitive…

  145. 145 GEAGLE said at 3:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    You know what the REAL JOKE is? Not that we can’t win a home game… The joke is that we can’t even lose a home game by less than 10 points…..I can’t take it!!! I seriously want to cry

  146. 146 BlindChow said at 3:08 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    And Kendricks misses a tackle.

  147. 147 bdbd20 said at 3:09 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    He’s played well. Can’t blame him for trying too hard. They have to know that the game is essentially over.

  148. 148 Flyineagle45 said at 3:09 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    we should have sucked for luck and called it a day we have pretty much been horrible since then

  149. 149 OregonDucker said at 3:10 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I need something for the pain – alcohol is not working.

  150. 150 bdbd20 said at 3:11 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Take a Bridgewater or a Mariota.

  151. 151 Iskar36 said at 3:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Not available. Already claimed by the plethora of teams that are actually worse than us…

  152. 152 GermanEagle said at 3:13 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Is that even possible?

  153. 153 Iskar36 said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    What’s sad is… Giants may have their choice of Clowney OR one of the top QBs.

  154. 154 bdbd20 said at 3:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Ok, take the generic. I belive it’s called Boyd-Hundley.

  155. 155 Iskar36 said at 3:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hahahaha.

  156. 156 jshort said at 3:11 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    rewatch a ducks game

  157. 157 shah8 said at 3:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Going to watch one more possession, and then move on if the same results happen.

  158. 158 pkeagle said at 3:25 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I think it’s time to check out

  159. 159 Andy124 said at 3:13 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Prescription: more alcohol.

  160. 160 ACViking said at 3:10 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Sad to say Merrill Hoge is looking like a Prophet.

    I wonder what Kelly’s really thinking right now — deep down in that place he never let’s anyone in?

  161. 161 mksp said at 3:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Right now I’m more worried about whether he’s lost the locker room or not. Playmakers on offense just aren’t playing hard.

  162. 162 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:11 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why is Kelly calling read-option plays with a non-mobile QB?

  163. 163 SteveH said at 3:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If barkley would keep one even with his limited mobility he could easily get a bunch of yards. No idea why he’s not keeping it.

  164. 164 shah8 said at 3:13 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Because if you can’t get more than about five to ten yards, the defense is more than happy to have extra opportunities to hit the QBs. Only really works if the defense is afraid of 15-25-+ runs.

  165. 165 SteveH said at 3:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’ll take 5-10 yards on 3rd and 1 all day.

  166. 166 shah8 said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Quarterback sneak will work too, you know…

    Sometimes, just sometimes, you really might want to run the offense with the QB behind center. You don’t have the options available at WR, and you don’t have the mobility at QB to manipulate d-box setup, to go shotgun everytime.

  167. 167 GermanEagle said at 3:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Well, maybe because he is SLOW?!!

  168. 168 Andy124 said at 3:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’m guessing there’s no pull option on those play calls.

  169. 169 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The coaching staff has to get on Barkley to do the “read” part.

  170. 170 OregonDucker said at 3:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    A non-mobile QB can pass on the option.

  171. 171 GermanEagle said at 3:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    if you thought last season was a nightmare, watch out for Chip Kelly’s Eagles in 2013. I can’t take this any more.

  172. 172 Flyineagle45 said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    well he got left with andy’s scraps….

  173. 173 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I start to believe Chip’s hire being overhyped…

  174. 174 ACViking said at 3:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That’s only because the Eagles’ Offense — i.e., Chip Kelly’s specialty — has gotten less effective over the course of the season.

  175. 175 Flyineagle45 said at 3:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    i hate them

  176. 176 ACViking said at 3:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The Giants and Cowboys — with terrible D-lines and run defenses — have made Kelly’s running game look amateurish.

    It’s all about a running QB, apparently.

    Can’t be the O-line. If it is, then the Eagles are YEARS from winning.

  177. 177 OregonDucker said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It helps if your QB does not fumble, throw ints, and does not make bad decisions on the read-option.

  178. 178 GEAGLE said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It would help if our coach did waste 6 months of first team reps on Vick

  179. 179 Weapon Y said at 3:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Desperate times call for desperate measures: let’s sign Tim Tebow

  180. 180 BlindChow said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Couldn’t look any worse, I guess…

  181. 181 bdbd20 said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That’s usually the counter-argument to “It couldn’t be any worse”

  182. 182 Weapon Y said at 3:21 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tell that to Broncos fans who had to suffer through Kyle Orton

  183. 183 Andy124 said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Desperate measures, not H-Back measures. We already have one of those that plays QB, James Casey.

  184. 184 GEAGLE said at 3:19 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    RB with a big arm? Don’t you mean Vick? He had more mobility today than Brady or manning…why did he leave the game? πŸ™‚

  185. 185 ACViking said at 3:16 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Time of possession DOES matter when your offense can’t score.

    At some point, your defense begins to weaken. Then break.

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 3:18 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tell that to the genius

  187. 187 SteveH said at 3:18 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    OK, Chip Kelly’s assertion is that TOP is overrated because what actually matters is the number of snaps that really matters, because if a team like the Giants is taking the clock down to 1 before every snap, is the defense working during that time? Snaps are the guaranteed work, which is why he is preoccupied with that stat as opposed to TOP. Kelly is not saying he is not worried about his defense getting tired, he is saying that the metric that measures that is snaps, not time of possession.

  188. 188 Corry said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    it’s 15-0, but it may as well be 70-0.

  189. 189 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:18 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nonsense. Defense looks perfectly capable of coming up with 2 TDs. We’re still in this.

  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Billy “Jethro” Davis for head coach? Lol…. No?

  191. 191 Flyineagle45 said at 3:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    fire sale just trade pretty much everyone

  192. 192 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Start with the arrogant ‘Seans.

  193. 193 Flyineagle45 said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    ummm no u keep shady

  194. 194 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:21 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The guy that admitted to dogging it last week? No thanks.

  195. 195 Flyineagle45 said at 3:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    whats the point in being a try hard when u see what this clown cars doing

  196. 196 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I can see the value in that opinion but don’t you want guys on the team that give their all regardless?

  197. 197 jshort said at 3:19 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    hope Tommy skips a DRG this week

  198. 198 bdbd20 said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    PBR stock is going up this week.

  199. 199 DamonL86 said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Stop holding the ball

  200. 200 ACViking said at 3:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Say what you want about Eli Manning . . .

    The guy stands in the pocket and isn’t afraid to throw the ball anywhere on the field to any spot on the field.

    After the past two weeks . . . The Eagles offense is looking like a bad gimmick

  201. 201 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Gimmick is exactly what I think when I think of Chip Kelly all of a sudden. Very sad.

  202. 202 BlindChow said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    These same players looked just as bad last year.

  203. 203 mksp said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yup.

  204. 204 onemorebop said at 3:21 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I woke up at 4AM on a Monday for this game. Going to work as soon as it ends. Sigh.

  205. 205 Flyineagle45 said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    huh where the heck r u

  206. 206 onemorebop said at 3:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Australia … the only other NFL fan in my building goes for the Giants. Looks like it’ll be an awesome week.

  207. 207 Crus57 said at 3:29 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Well look at it this way, thanks to the time difference your week will be over before ours.

  208. 208 DamonL86 said at 3:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why are we punting

  209. 209 BlindChow said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Seriously, WTF?

  210. 210 TommyLawlor said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’m not a fan either, but the hope is to pin the Giants deep.

  211. 211 GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It’s the least embarrassing thing to do…plus our defense has a better chance of scoring

  212. 212 bdbd20 said at 3:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    White flag. No need to make the bleeding worse. Let the Giants milk the clock and leave the game feeling good about the D.

  213. 213 ACViking said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Dove Γ¨ il mio amico, GEagle?

  214. 214 GEAGLE said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Did you think I was joking about the suicide pact? Lol
    ….
    I said the defense would have to carry us today but I didn’t get the memo that we were facing the steel curtain

  215. 215 ACViking said at 3:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Even better than your suicide pact comment.

  216. 216 mksp said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Man, a couple of rough games with backup QBs and poor performances by your “stars” and you guys are ready to give up on the Chip era? Dunno.

    Remember, we’re trying to undo years of malaise and poor drafting here. Wasn’t going to happen overnight.

  217. 217 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Is he not responsible for getting the team ready to play?

  218. 218 mksp said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Not sure theres anything Chip can do about DeSean running away from a 1st down marker to avoid contact.

  219. 219 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    True.

  220. 220 BlindChow said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No, that must be one of those “college” plays!

  221. 221 Allen3000 said at 3:27 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Of course it wasn’t, but it’s never a good sign when you are getting shut out by one of the league’s worst defense and you are still equipped with an offense that features Shady McCoy, Djax, Jason Peters, Evan Mathis, Brent Celek, and supposed offensive genius calling the plays.
    I’m a patient guy and I’m not very concerned with this team’s record this year. I do however, want to see this team start beating teams it *should* beat AND I want to see signs of progression each week. This team, well at least on offense, has seriously regressed the past two weeks. Not a good sign.

  222. 222 GEAGLE said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    f that!!!! Our Genius didn’t work to rebuild anything,,,he thought he could retool and win with Vick instead of investing this year in our future…basically, just another year on the hamster wheel..
    ….
    Sam Hinkie is the only person in this town who has a clue….Chip should have been smarter then to repeat all this mistakes of the past! instead he gave first team reps to a QB who couldn’t get thru week 6,

  223. 223 OregonDucker said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This is a bad porn movie!

  224. 224 shah8 said at 3:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    And that’s THAT. Going to another game. Be depressed.

  225. 225 DarthBanner said at 3:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    3 points in the last 2 games. Losing faith in chip

  226. 226 ACViking said at 3:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    For the second straight week, this game feels like the 2003 NFC title game.

    Down 14-3. Might as well have been 1000 – 3

  227. 227 GermanEagle said at 3:25 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    A frigging punt?! LolChippah

  228. 228 Flyineagle45 said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    someone make sure that pack that guy his “queen” so we can win some games

  229. 229 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:27 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Put the beer down.

  230. 230 Flyineagle45 said at 3:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    queeno

  231. 231 BlindChow said at 3:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    LOLslant

  232. 232 Weapon Y said at 3:27 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Looks like Big Balls Chip got neutered. Why the hell wouldn’t you go for it on 4th down?

  233. 233 bdbd20 said at 3:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Punting may actually have more impact on the team. Remember, Chip’s friends with Belichek. Might be playing mind games with the offense.

  234. 234 jshort said at 3:29 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    they will have to now.

  235. 235 DamonL86 said at 3:29 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I sense no points incoming for us

  236. 236 jshort said at 3:30 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    i sense and interception coming

  237. 237 DarthBanner said at 3:30 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Kelly looks lost. His decisions today have made no sense.

  238. 238 ACViking said at 3:30 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Re: Offense and the Time-Space Continuum

    What’s concerning is the effectiveness of the offense, particularly the running game, has gone downhill over the past 4 weeks.

    Yes, the Eagles beat the Giants 4 weeks ago. Then Tampa.

    But the running game’s degenerated . . . and against allegedly bad D-lines.

    Just very concerning.

  239. 239 ACViking said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It’s not about the personnel.

    This scheme started red-hot.

    Then the NFL got a good look at it

  240. 240 Iskar36 said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Teams have adjusted to our offense and so far, Chip hasn’t made an effective counter adjustment.

  241. 241 ACViking said at 3:33 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Can he?

    Seems like he never had to in college.

  242. 242 Andy124 said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It was said during the interview process that Kelly already knew what adjustments NFL defenses would make and already had counters ready.

  243. 243 Iskar36 said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    All the hype in the offseason was that Chip anticipates counters to his offense and adjusts accordingly. So far we haven’t seen that at all.

  244. 244 OregonDucker said at 3:32 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They can single cover and stack the box. Receivers are not getting separation and passes are generally not there when they do.

  245. 245 Flyineagle45 said at 3:30 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    can we trade for pete carol

  246. 246 ACViking said at 3:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    T-Law . . . you may get that shutout today

  247. 247 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Don’t mess with him, me might be on top of the tallest building closest to him.

  248. 248 Flyineagle45 said at 3:32 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    actually let trade for bellichick

  249. 249 SteveH said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    probably going to be overlooked but defense played pretty well today. Gave up some yards but buckled up and kept them out of the endzone.

  250. 250 Andy124 said at 3:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Saw Nate Allen on a few nice hits.

  251. 251 SteveH said at 3:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    yeah weird right?

  252. 252 Iskar36 said at 3:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Don’t fully agree with this. The Giants didn’t get into the endzone, but a the Giants shot themselves in the foot a few times. It wasn’t our defense alone that kept them out of the endzone.

  253. 253 Corry said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Barkley does have a bit more zip on those passes.

  254. 254 GermanEagle said at 3:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    this loss should humble eagles nation and jimmy bama.

  255. 255 SteveH said at 3:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Jimmy Bama cannot be humbled.

  256. 256 GermanEagle said at 3:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Sad but true. Is it just me or has he been coming across like cocky and arrogant lately?

  257. 257 jshort said at 3:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    at least we’re on the road next week

  258. 258 DamonL86 said at 3:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Of course

  259. 259 DamonL86 said at 3:37 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Seriously a dump off take a shot

  260. 260 Flyineagle45 said at 3:37 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    lets play game called the eagles make me……..

  261. 261 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:37 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nauseous.

  262. 262 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Change channels

  263. 263 GEAGLE said at 3:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I don’t even want to hear chips press conference… Billy Davis is the only one that deserves to speak

  264. 264 OregonDucker said at 3:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Agree.

  265. 265 Flyineagle45 said at 3:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tell that B to pack her mans Quinoa Patty every game

  266. 266 GEAGLE said at 3:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Can we score a FUCKIN point????

  267. 267 DamonL86 said at 3:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Survey says……. No

  268. 268 GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hahahahah middle fingers up fuckers!!!

  269. 269 Corry said at 3:41 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Magic 8 Ball says: “outlook not so good”

  270. 270 ACViking said at 3:39 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Little late in the game to “Threaten” with play action

  271. 271 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Any chance we can convert this to a Cheifs site, and we can all pretend we are KC fans til the end of the year?

  272. 272 ACViking said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Siete su un rullo

  273. 273 GEAGLE said at 3:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    DAJE!!!!!! Sti stronzi mi Danno un attacko del cuore

  274. 274 Iskar36 said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Wow…. just wow.

  275. 275 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Game not over πŸ™‚

  276. 276 Corry said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    COMEBACK BABY!

  277. 277 BlindChow said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    WTF, I leave the room for one second and….???

  278. 278 Corry said at 3:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No offense, but please leave the room again.

  279. 279 mksp said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Seriously, some of you guys need to relax. Not making the playoffs is good news. For a minute I was worried we would sneak in because the NFC East is so dreadful. Now we’ll have a top-15 pick at a minimum, and no delusions about our QB situation. Hopefully Foles get better, and we can run with him rest of the season to “see what we have there.”

    Does Tommy need to pull out the “1st year head coach records” statistic again?

    Also, LOLGiants.

  280. 280 Andy124 said at 3:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    It’s been said over an over again that the team would not be judged on wins and losses, but on other factors like the “eye test”, week to week progress, seeing if Chip’s system will work.

    The strong reactions are due largely to the low grades the Eagles are earning in those factors. Especially the progress category, as we’re seeing pretty severe regression that last couple weeks.

  281. 281 mksp said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Just remember that at the moment we’re judging them with a 3rd string quarterback.

  282. 282 Corry said at 3:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yeah but they scored just as many with the first string QB in there for the first quarter and a half.

  283. 283 Andy124 said at 3:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Who’s actually looked less bad than the other two guys over the last 8 days.

  284. 284 mksp said at 3:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yeah, I still have no words for Foles’ performance against Dallas. Really screwed us.

  285. 285 Michael Winter Cho said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The 5 year contract doesn’t mean much if he doesn’t get some wins or at least look good in losses. I live in AZ, all it a lesson from Cardinal land.

  286. 286 GEAGLE said at 3:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Win a fuckin home game

  287. 287 Andy124 said at 3:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Thank Goode(ness) for that.

  288. 288 BlindChow said at 3:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Chris McCoy wouldn’t make that play!

  289. 289 Andy124 said at 3:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nor Acho.

  290. 290 Flyineagle45 said at 3:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    hahaha ill take a touch down however we can get it damn sure can earn it

  291. 291 Flyineagle45 said at 3:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Lol the stadium is so empty

  292. 292 DamonL86 said at 3:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’m stunned

  293. 293 Iskar36 said at 3:44 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Not sure I’m a fan of that onsides kick at all.

  294. 294 Iskar36 said at 3:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Gave them great field position on a low percentage play with plenty of time left.

  295. 295 GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hell NO

  296. 296 BlindChow said at 3:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I think Kelly might have a concussion.

  297. 297 OregonDucker said at 3:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Agree.

  298. 298 Andy124 said at 3:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They must be contagious.

  299. 299 GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hahahah. They are playing “living on a prayer” at the Linc hahahahahahaha pathetic

  300. 300 DamonL86 said at 3:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Not a well coached game today in key situations

  301. 301 Flyineagle45 said at 3:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Chip spurrier?….. ha JK

  302. 302 Eric Carranza said at 3:46 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Miracle at the linc? Lol

  303. 303 ACViking said at 3:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Fletcher Cox . . . you can’t dance after a sack down 15-0 w/ 4:30 left in the game.

  304. 304 Jerry Goldstein said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why not? The D is the only side of the ball that showed up today.

  305. 305 ACViking said at 4:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Because Cox looks like a jackass.

  306. 306 GEAGLE said at 3:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I just smacked my puppy on the nose with a newspaper roll for you

  307. 307 BlindChow said at 3:47 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I like to see they’re enforcing the delay penalties this time.

  308. 308 GermanEagle said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tommy

    I’m hoping to read a more critical read on Chip Kelly from you this week.

  309. 309 guitardreamer131 said at 3:51 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    You my friend are officially the new Morton…

  310. 310 GermanEagle said at 3:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why? Because Chip Kelly’s playcalling has been subpar in the last two home games?

  311. 311 Iskar36 said at 3:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Seriously, the vitriol reporters got for putting out fair doubts about Chip Kelly was intense this offseason. Seems some of the doubts are well-founded.

    No question that it is really early and things can change, but Chip Kelly has showed lots of flaws that need to be corrected.

  312. 312 RobNE said at 3:53 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’d be find with running 4 times from first any goal at the 2. Even if we diet get it

  313. 313 SteveH said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    that delay huge.

  314. 314 Andy124 said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    If only.

  315. 315 DamonL86 said at 3:48 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    hardly

  316. 316 SteveH said at 3:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    OPI on kendricks there

  317. 317 Corry said at 3:50 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Kendricks doesn’t play for the right team to get that call.

  318. 318 RobNE said at 3:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Only we get called for off PI.

  319. 319 GermanEagle said at 3:54 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    And the cowboys just won the NFC East.

  320. 320 DamonL86 said at 3:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    what a joke

  321. 321 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Teams know they need two QBs to win,,,when you are the Eagles, you need 8.

    That fat bitch has sung

  322. 322 BobSmith77 said at 3:55 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Fitting way for the game to end.

  323. 323 jshort said at 3:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Who’s the qb next week?

  324. 324 Iskar36 said at 3:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    James Casey. He needs to earn that paycheck somehow right?

  325. 325 Andy124 said at 3:57 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    KINNE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  326. 326 BobSmith77 said at 3:59 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Imagine Barkley by default simply because he is healthy.

  327. 327 SteveH said at 3:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Reasonable enough, they had to go deep there.

  328. 328 Flyineagle45 said at 3:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    LOL!!!!
    i think im insane watch these games expecting different results every time

  329. 329 BobSmith77 said at 3:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    First time the reporters/media really will be on Kelly and rightfully so. Several decisions that could be second-guessed during the game and the decision to start Vick who obviously wasn’t able to able move in the pocket effectively.

  330. 330 GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Wish we would have gotten shut out,,,we don’t deserve 7 points today

  331. 331 ceteris_paribus1776 said at 4:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    16, 20, 3, & 0. Those are the Eagles offensive point totals for over half of the games in the season. Concerned?

  332. 332 BobSmith77 said at 4:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Baffling thing to me today was all of the shotgun draw calls today. Kelly wasn’t fooling anybody with that.

  333. 333 mksp said at 4:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Every single read option is run from the shotgun. Those aren’t draws.

  334. 334 BobSmith77 said at 4:08 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    That’s what I meant. It was clear from the 1st quarter with how many guys were up front in the box including Rolle that the Giants didn’t think Vick was going to be an option in the running game.

  335. 335 Iskar36 said at 4:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Positive spin for the day:

    The Eagles did an absolute fantastic job of reducing the chances for the Giants to get Clowney. They should be commended for their forward thinking.

  336. 336 GEAGLE said at 4:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    We couldn’t beat a team that kicked 5 FGs at home

  337. 337 Flyineagle45 said at 4:03 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    #chippedwings πŸ™

  338. 338 mksp said at 4:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    SELL

  339. 339 xeynon said at 4:05 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Time to accept that this team is not good enough to make the playoffs. This season should be all about trying to develop young players and build a winning culture. Veterans who are not part of the future (Vick, Avant, Allen, Celek, etc.) should not be getting the bulk of the playing time and interfering with the opportunity to evaluate and/or develop younger players like Foles, Barkley, Johnson, Wolff, and Ertz. Roseman should be working the phones in advance of the trade deadline on Tuesday looking to see if he can get anything in exchange for older players like Vick and Ryans. The coaching staff should still be trying to win but not at the expense of the future, because that only makes the day on which we actually will win farther off.

  340. 340 GEAGLE said at 4:11 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Trent Cole should be the first name you listed….not good enough to play the most important role on a defense

  341. 341 xeynon said at 4:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I absolutely agree with you in terms of where he stands as a player – he’d be better off playing out his career as a situational pass rusher in a 4-3 defense. However, his contract makes him prohibitively expensive to trade right now, and we could probably use the cap space in the off-season.

  342. 342 GEAGLE said at 4:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Bench him and play Graham every snap the rest of the way

  343. 343 xeynon said at 4:21 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I wouldn’t be opposed to that.

  344. 344 BobSmith77 said at 4:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Cole isn’t playing well but why bench him at this point though especially for a guy who can’t cover (Graham)? Both guys are leftover pieces that are out of place in his defensive scheme.

  345. 345 Dr. Claw said at 4:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Foles and Barkley can both be gone as far as I’m concerned… their ceilings don’t go above “backup”. You could probably get more for Foles than Vick at this point… if only Andy Reid’s flair for “persuasion” remained.

  346. 346 xeynon said at 4:20 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I suspect you’re probably right about Foles and Barkley. I’d put both of them more in the “evaluation” category than the “development” one. The probability is high the team will be looking to draft a QB high next April, but we might as well have as much information on the guys already on the roster as possible.

  347. 347 GEAGLE said at 4:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Oh we are judging Barkley already now? Hahahahah
    ….
    The knock on him was week arm,,,now that he is throwing with zip, 5 quarters was enough to tell you that Barkley is a bum?
    ….
    Yo think Marriotta won’t have 5 bad quarters? Lol

  348. 348 BobSmith77 said at 4:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I am surprised the Eagles were able to keep the Giants out of the end zone though and keep Hicks/Cruz in relative check.

    Cox continues to play pretty well up front, Allen had a few big hits on crucial 3rd down plays today, and Fletcher had another strong game regardless of how he was matched up against.

  349. 349 Dr. Claw said at 4:13 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Yeah. There were a couple of times I was wary that they might but the Giants either shot themselves in the foot, or pressure was good enough for Eli to miss his target.

  350. 350 Flyineagle45 said at 4:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    good ol fashioned fire sale

  351. 351 SeanofDead said at 4:07 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Looks like we are “sellers” now. Im interested to see if anything happens. I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone lose their job this week.

  352. 352 BobSmith77 said at 4:09 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Why would anyone lose their job at this point?

  353. 353 GEAGLE said at 4:08 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Hahaha Vick said he re injured his hamstring…two genius’s

  354. 354 mksp said at 4:09 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I’m gonna bookmark this thread for when the Eagles go 11-5 next season.

  355. 355 Always Hopeful said at 4:10 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Nice.

  356. 356 Flyineagle45 said at 4:11 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    chip needs to start earing visors thats the problem

  357. 357 mhrinda said at 4:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tommy I have to say you were right. You didn’t want Reid to go for “Eagle reasons” (they would pick a bad coach) Now I have to say Chip Kelly is over his head and we are in trouble. I don’t have a good feeling about this
    (not necessarily talking wins and losses but I just don’t like what I see for both now and the future)

  358. 358 BobSmith77 said at 4:12 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They simply need better decision-making out of Barkley next week if he is going to be the starter and adjustments in play-calling because teams aren’t going to respect Barkley taking the ball in the read option.

    It really hurts the Eagles though right now that they don’t any receiver that teams respect 10+ yards down the field and no decent RB to give McCoy a breather.

  359. 359 Dr. Claw said at 4:13 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The Eagles defense was in classic “bend but don’t break mode”. Continuous improvement?

    But the offense…

    1) Vick had no business starting. He was not even 70%.
    2) Barkley is not ready for prime time. His worst offense isn’t the turnovers, it’s the holding on to the ball. He’s actually the worst on the roster in regards to that.
    3) Chip Kelly had no business calling read options with a QB who can’t run it. Barkley had 1st down if he keeps the ball several times today.

    All of these point to Chip as the reason the Eagles lose another game at home. He’s fortunate that this is his first season here. Hopefully the Eagles can draft a QB appropriate to Chip’s vision… who is durable.

  360. 360 GEAGLE said at 4:14 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Get ready for Barkley to lead us into the black hole next week

  361. 361 Andy124 said at 4:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Anyone know if Foles has taken/passed any tests yet?

  362. 362 GEAGLE said at 4:18 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Not sure about the first test but I know he hasn’t seen an Independant specialist yet which is the last step

  363. 363 BobSmith77 said at 4:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Coughlin and his staff simply outcoached Kelly and his staff today. First time all year where I felt the Eagles should have won a game that they didn’t and the coaching staff was a key reason why.

  364. 364 bbbulka said at 4:15 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    coach controversy???

  365. 365 BobSmith77 said at 4:17 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No and that is ridiculous. They are half-way through his first season coming off a 3-13 season which had limited amounts of talent on both sides of the ball.

  366. 366 mhrinda said at 4:26 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I don’t like Chips style. He coaches very timidly, He is restrained and very conservative in his play calling, He is very vanilla as a coach, Lack of talent sure but I just don’t like what he’s doing. Let us be outplayed but lets at least try to get more creative and play an interesting unorthodox style of football

  367. 367 GEAGLE said at 4:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Ok we get it…you read a Merrill Hodge interview..lol

  368. 368 mhrinda said at 4:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    No don’t read that stuff, Its just my observation, I want us to be good but the feeling I get is we are going to be mediocre both now and the future, Chip looks scared out there and non innovated for someone that in college was the king of innovation and the unusual,

  369. 369 BobSmith77 said at 4:19 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Give this to Kelly – he is frank and straight-forward in his post-game conferences and tries to give answers to reporters’ questions.

  370. 370 jshort said at 4:22 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    hahaha anyone watching Dallas

  371. 371 jshort said at 4:23 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    at least when we loose, Its ugly

  372. 372 BobSmith77 said at 4:24 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I wanted to see Foles/Barkley as the QBs before the season began and still want to see them the rest of the way despite some pretty shoddy play the last 2 weeks. Allows the Eagles to figure out if either has any kind of future here and what kind of QB they need for Kelly’s offense.

  373. 373 holeplug said at 4:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    They need Marcus Mariota

  374. 374 ACViking said at 4:27 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    GEagle:

    Il giorno di apertura quarterback non ha mai fatto quest’anno. mai

  375. 375 GEAGLE said at 4:29 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    MAI!!!!!!!! Ain’t that the truth!!

  376. 376 BobSmith77 said at 4:27 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    O-line though continues to be the ‘turd in the punchbowl’ though considering it is at full strength with all 5 starters and still an average/below-average unit overall.

    Failed a couple of times on short 3rd down running plays to generate any kind of push where a 1st down would have made a crucial difference including the drive right before the half. There isn’t a single play or side the Eagles can rush right now on 3rd and short and have much confidence in picking up a 1st down.

  377. 377 jshort said at 4:28 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Could it be possible to win the east and have a top 10 pick?

  378. 378 ACViking said at 4:29 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    NO.

    All playoff teams moved down to the last 12 selections.

    Eagles could win NFC East at 6-10 and have 20th pick

  379. 379 mksp said at 4:31 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Correct. Just give it to Dallas. Sell, play young players, continue to build a culture, draft a franchise QB.

    Just saw Stafford make two big time throws down 6 with a minute left against Dallas that not a QB on our roster could make. No chance without a guy like that.

  380. 380 GEAGLE said at 4:32 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Thank you Vick for taking a week of reps from the kid so that you could play a quarter………EVERONE KNEW he wouldn’t get thru the game except him!!!

  381. 381 ACViking said at 4:33 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Kelly exercised bad judgment on Vick this week . . . wanted the W too much.

    Kelly’s adjustments (or non-adjustments) to the G-men also concerning.

  382. 382 GEAGLE said at 4:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I didn’t see arm strength issue out of barkley

  383. 383 mksp said at 4:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    C’mon dude. Be objective. Even his completions lacked real drive. Look at that ball he threw to Avant that was under thrown and made Avant go to the ground. I like him, but his arm is not as strong as Foles even.

  384. 384 ACViking said at 4:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    I like Barkley’s chances in Oakland.

    He’ll be on WC time

  385. 385 BobSmith77 said at 4:34 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Kelly seemed to really hang on the ‘instability at QB due to health reasons’ in the post-game as a reason why the Eagles are struggling so much and used it in several answers.

    If Barkley is named the starter next week (and I think he will be simply because he is the only healthy QB on the roster), I want to see how Kelly responds including making adjustments to better suit the plays to Barkley and his seeming inability/discomfort in running with the ball next week.

  386. 386 GermanEagle said at 4:38 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Matchups…. Lol

  387. 387 BobSmith77 said at 4:40 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Play the hand your dealt even if it is off-suit and a bunch of 4s, 5s, and 6s.

  388. 388 GermanEagle said at 4:35 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Megatron 329 yards vs Cowboys
    Eagles Offense 278 yards vs Cowboys.

  389. 389 BobSmith77 said at 4:36 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Tommy – Any idea who many multiple TE sets the Eagles have used his year vs NFL average? I would love to see that stat and what the Eagles have done out of it. Ertz seemed like he was ‘MIA’ again this week and wasn’t on the field for even 50% of the snaps.

  390. 390 bbbulka said at 4:42 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    why are everybody so sensitive just like girls?? it’s very funny ))))))))

  391. 391 shah8 said at 4:43 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    The Eagles do not have a chance without trading for anything better at WR.

  392. 392 BobSmith77 said at 4:45 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Bryce Brown:

    38 carriers, 98 yards, 0 TDs; 4 catches, 48 yds

    Getting less and less carries and snaps each week despite Polk being hurt. Dude sucks and increasingly has been seeking to avoid contact.

    I really wouldn’t mind if the Eagles sign another RB and give him some carries because letting Brown touch the ball is a waste of a play right now.

  393. 393 ACViking said at 4:49 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This may not be a good scheme for him.

    Just about every play starts with him running laterally.

    Put him in the I-formation and he’d be a more productive runner.

    BUT all that aside . . . didn’t Roseman and Kelly see this problem in the off-season film review and during TC?

    Moreover, he still — since age 18 — doesn’t have one-year’s worth of carries by a full-time RB.

  394. 394 BobSmith77 said at 4:52 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Maybe but he hasn’t shown any ability to make good reads in between the T and hit holes quickly which would be a huge issue out of an I-formation of a split-back formation.

  395. 395 ACViking said at 5:00 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    TOTALLY AGREE!!!

    The game is still too fast for his eyes to get the right cuts to his feet.

  396. 396 anon said at 2:16 AM on October 28th, 2013:

    haha please. What is he supposed to do he gets 4 snaps a game. You think he’s going to bust it for 30 yd plays? RBs need a rhythm. And to be fair look at shady’s numbers the last couple of weeks.

  397. 397 BobSmith77 said at 4:56 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Most frustrating Giants’ loss in a quite a while. Giants went really conservative on offense and defense and just avoided any killer screwups except the shoddy snap by DeOssie. Even had a ton of penalties today too (11-92 yards) and were only 8-19 on 3rd down conversion with stall outs every time in the red zone.

  398. 398 ACViking said at 5:01 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    This was 1972 Eagles’ football . . . if that good.

  399. 399 ACViking said at 5:02 PM on October 27th, 2013:

    Too bad the NFL didn’t have the Eagles play KC on the first MNF broadcast.

    I think Kelly could’ve won that game. Might have delayed the inevitable run up the learning curve by NFL D-coordinators.