Out of Soap

Posted: October 29th, 2013 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 117 Comments »

The Isaac Sopoaga era has come to an end.

The Eagles traded him and a 2014 6th rounder to the Patriots for a 2014 5th rounder. I realize that isn’t the deal for Jairus Byrd that some of you wanted to hear about, but trade deadline activity proved to be pretty quiet today.

Sopoaga was a disappointment and there’s no denying that. He was a serviceable NT, but wasn’t the big run stuffer that we all hoped to see. The Eagles signed him back in March with the idea that he could be a one-year player or could stay for a few if things went well. Clearly, things didn’t go well. Sope wasn’t a liability or anything like that, but he wasn’t what the Eagles expected. He didn’t make plays. He didn’t regularly eat up blockers.Sope did play better in the last couple of weeks, but not enough so to warrant keeping him around.

The Eagles knew he was a declining player when they signed Sopoaga. The hope was that he could be a band-aid NT and give time for some young guys to develop. While Sope was an on the field failure, we don’t know what value he had in the locker room. Chip Kelly lauded his leadership ability when Sope was signed. The Eagles young DL have looked solid so far. If any of that can be attributed to Sope’s presence in the locker room and on the practice field, that might make him worth the money the Eagles spent.

The Eagles will probably put rookie Bennie Logan in as the starting NT. This should mean that rookie Damion Square becomes the backup. The Eagles do have versatile DL and could switch things up. Cedric Thornton can play NT. So could Clifton Geathers. I think they’ll go with the rookies, but I’ve been wrong with guessing defensive moves this year. Logan could be the long term answer at NT. Getting lots of reps for him is a good thing. If he can’t handle it, then the team will move him to DE and have to go find another NT, whether on the roster or elsewhere. I think Thornton would be very good there, but the team may like him too much at DE to move him.

There is now an open spot on the roster. Nick Foles is back at practice so there is no need to put GJ Kinne onto the active roster. CB is a thin spot and could be where the Eagles look to add someone. I would also be fine with the Eagles adding an OLB.

The Pats lost Vince Wilfork a few weeks back and needed help with their run defense. I joked on Twitter that I fully expect to read an article in a few weeks about how Isaac Sopoaga is the key to the Patriots back-to-back shutouts. They’ve had some castoffs go there and shine. Bill Belichick can be masterful with veteran defenders.

The Eagles are now very young on defense.

Jimmy Bama also noted that the only defender over the age of 30 is now Trent Cole. What is this…Logan’s Run?

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There were reports that Vinny Curry was available for interested teams. There were other reports that the Eagles shopped him. In the end, nothing happened. I think the Eagles might have jumped on the right offer, but Curry still has value. There was no reason to give him away.

No word on Jairus Byrd so I guess he’s staying put in Buffalo.

117 Comments on “Out of Soap”

  1. 1 Anders said at 5:00 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I like a potential starting DL of Thornton-Logan-Cox. Should have better pass rush because of Logan and shouldnt suffer anything from a run support standpoint.

    Curry-Thornton-Cox could be an intriguing option, but I have no idea how much they trust Curry as an every down player yet

  2. 2 ztom6 said at 8:44 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    if not Curry-Thornton-Cox then Geathers-Thornton-Cox is more likely. I don’t see Logan playing NT fulltime because he hasn’t played hardly any meaningful snaps there whereas Thornton has.

  3. 3 GEAGLE said at 12:20 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Gaethers actually had a nice game this week, in limited snaps of course….wish he wouldn’t have ruined it by celebrating after a big hit, with a minute left in the game that we were clearly going to lose

  4. 4 Matt Hoover said at 5:06 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I will truly never understand why this coaching staff hates Vinny Curry.

  5. 5 TommyLawlor said at 5:09 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    No hate. They simply run a 2-gap system and he’s never going to be an ideal fit for that.

  6. 6 mksp said at 5:12 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I will truly never under why this fan base can’t understand this absurdly simple fact.

  7. 7 bentheimmigrant said at 5:25 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Because they wantz Curryzzzzzzzz

  8. 8 eagleyankfan said at 6:50 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    or write complete sentences…

  9. 9 GEAGLE said at 7:30 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    The kid made a big and drastic transition in so little time..I’m not ready to say what he can’t do given another year to grow into his new role..

    Worst case scenario, he develops into a situational pass rusher which will always have a role in today’s NFL..we aren’t two gapping out of a 3man line on 3rd and 8..and no matter how much two gapping 3-4 we see, we will always still see 4 man lines….even if he just develops into a player who creates havoc and helps us get off the field on Nickle 3rd down pass situations, he can still be valuable to a good defense,,,,we made the choice to allow Washburn and scheme changes to severely jerk around his development…so now we are stuck waiting longer then we normally would, to find out what a young player can and can’t be,,,,..Does Curry even have 10 games under his belt yet? Lol I get that he isn’t the ideal two gapping 3-4 DE, but all things considered, the man has handled all the adversity in he the world admirably. he stayed passionate and let it fuel him to keep working….and I’m Not going to sit here and say what he can never grow to become after his 10 game in the NFL….and I would extend the same curtesy to ANY young Eagle who was drafted in the first five rounds

  10. 10 SteveH said at 6:15 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I think its unfortunate they’re so dead set on 2 gapping all the time, considering we have personnel that could benefit from hybrid looks.

  11. 11 GEAGLE said at 12:22 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Every time Cox lines up at 3tec(which isn’t that often), he makes a disruptive play!!!

  12. 12 ztom6 said at 8:39 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I think “never” is a bit strong. Stands to reason he may be getting more snaps if Thornton is going to be playing more at NT, no? I don’t think he looks terrible at all as a 4 technique, he just lacks experience.

  13. 13 DamonL86 said at 5:11 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    On a positive note we got better compensation for Sopoaga then Asante.

  14. 14 disqus_jB7dl5fzvO said at 5:41 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Last time we traded draft picks with the Pats was in 2011 where we switched the 192nd and the 193rd picks for no reason at all, and I think that netted us Brain Rolle. Hopefully this time, we get a Tom Brady caliber player. Not asking for too much, am I?

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 7:38 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Another two Earl Wolff caliber players in the 5th round would be enough for me

  16. 16 Arby1 said at 8:28 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    We got Bryce Brown with the pick we got for Asante. That’s not bad.

  17. 17 ICDogg said at 5:13 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    The last three callers are right! Today's NFL sucks because it's gotten too womanly @WIPAfternoons— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) October 29, 2013

  18. 18 Mac said at 5:20 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Tommy to answer your question… No, it’s Soylent Green.

  19. 19 TommyLawlor said at 5:23 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    It’s made of nose tackles! Nose tackles!!!

  20. 20 poetx99 said at 9:32 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    props to this whole exchange. it made me laugh. although if looking for a sf analogy for this team i’d have picked Damnation Alley. the last couple of seasons have been absolutely post-apocalyptic. only thing missing is the giant, mutant cockroaches.

  21. 21 bill said at 8:27 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Damnation Alley – haven’t thought of that one in years. The flood scene at the end, obviously shot in a bath tub, was awesome in the same sense that the fight scene in They Live was awesome.

  22. 22 Matthew Verhoog said at 6:19 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I wonder if the pats would be interested in Avant. Unfortunately we are so thin at WR ourselves.

  23. 23 Joe Minx said at 6:24 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Just saw PFF’s midpoint 1st round rookie report. They have Lane Johnson graded as the 2nd worst of the lot behind Eric Fisher.


  24. 24 Anders said at 6:34 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I dont give any credit to PFF. They graded Johnson down on a play where Barkley held the ball forever and got sacked.

  25. 25 GEAGLE said at 7:43 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    On top of that, it’s a friggin JOKE to try and grade Lane Right now…such an inexperienced kid at OT, playing every snap in the NFL from day one is just fine with me….especially since NO ONE drafted Lane for what he would be this year…He was drafted because 3 years from now, he will be the best OT to come out of a strong group..and nothing I have seen, is a hindrance to achieving that goal, making him a brilliant pick for the next decade….I’m so tired of this day and ages need for instant gratification…
    Just because your Lane Johnson’s and Vinny Currys haven’t met everyone’s need for instant gratification, I’m getting so damn tired reading the limits people put on these talented kids..

  26. 26 ICDogg said at 6:32 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Tommy – what is your opinion of Braxton Miller as an NFL QB prospect?

  27. 27 Vick or Nick said at 6:48 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Good athlete. Needs to improve as a passer. Very inconsistent.

  28. 28 ICDogg said at 7:15 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I know he’s far from a polished product but he seems to have all the raw skills needed to excel in this offense.

  29. 29 Anders said at 7:17 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I would take him in the 2nd. He got all the tools to be a very good QB. Great arm (not Kaepernick or Vick, but much better than Foles or Barkley) and has really improved as a passer this season.

  30. 30 shah8 said at 7:25 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Again, I’m not sure he’d come out this year.

  31. 31 Anders said at 7:27 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Again who knows. Miller might be smart to stay and if he really plays well in 14 could be a high first round

  32. 32 ICDogg said at 7:37 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    look how well that worked out for Barkley

  33. 33 Anders said at 7:42 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Also I think Marcus Lattimore is going to have even more players with potential to come out early.

  34. 34 deg0ey said at 4:42 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Agreed – I’d hope his advisers are smart enough to point that out to him. That said, I could see him staying to try for the Championship next year.

  35. 35 deg0ey said at 4:49 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I said this in the last thread, but I’d much rather take a gamble on someone with his talent being able to get more consistent with some NFL coaching than a guy with lesser physical gifts and hoping that he’s smart enough to stay one step ahead in the pros.

    On a slightly related note, his passing numbers are remarkably similar to Kaepernick’s college stats. I’d say that’s a good enough base to work from and see how he goes.

  36. 36 Vick or Nick said at 6:36 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Yeah he’s a better option than anyone currently on the roster. Also I don’t think it takes a Manning to run Chips offense. He made due with Dixon, Thomas, etc. Maybe it could work.

  37. 37 aj said at 6:46 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Curry, Thorton, Cox sounds gr8

  38. 38 A_T_G said at 7:30 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Personally, I think Cox, Haha Clinton-Dix, Clowney has a nice, symmetric “we joke about penises” dynamic to it.

  39. 39 BlindChow said at 12:56 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Haha Clinton-Dix is a common reaction to a cigar joke.

  40. 40 BreakinAnklez said at 9:06 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    And I just spit coffee all over my computer screen…lol

  41. 41 eagleyankfan said at 6:48 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    So — the Patriots switched from a 4-3 to a 3-4 just like that. Interesting. Been reading all season long how it’s such a tough task that takes months to learn. Unless you’re on the Patriots. Then it takes a week. Kind of like all the talk about how a rookie QB can’t be successful in his first year in the nfl….

  42. 42 Anders said at 6:50 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    or all the important Pats players played a 3-4 the last couple of years?

  43. 43 eagleyankfan said at 6:51 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    oh, is that it (insert roll eyes icon here)?

  44. 44 Anders said at 6:54 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    They played a hybrid 3-4/4-3 in 11 and 12 before going to a full 4-3 because they had 3 good 4-3 LBs and didnt really have a true 3-4 OLB.

  45. 45 eagleyankfan said at 7:03 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    So you’re saying now they have that true OLB to play the 3-4? Again – interesting. It’s good the have all that talent on D that can switch on a weekly basis like that. Maybe one day the Eagles will have that talent.

  46. 46 Anders said at 7:06 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    No they do not. The Pats front seven is very weak right now.

  47. 47 ICDogg said at 7:18 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    That is a hallmark of the Pats D, the ability to change up like that.

  48. 48 Anders said at 7:19 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Remember most teams change fronts during games. We do that all the time going from 3-4 to 4-2 etc.

  49. 49 theycallmerob said at 9:38 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    their defense is not exactly lighting the world on fire. not sure who you’re watching.

  50. 50 anon said at 12:32 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    talib can be on my team any day.

  51. 51 BreakinAnklez said at 9:15 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Top 5 in points per game, Top 5 in takeaways, top 10 in sacks….I’d say they are playing pretty well?

  52. 52 Anders said at 6:49 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I know he has flamed out with both the Pats and Niners, but wonder if we would pick up a Jermaine Cunningham there was just waivered.

    I would love if we could pick up Deshawn Shead from the Hawks PS.

  53. 53 GEAGLE said at 12:04 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    I wanted to sign Reid Fragel OT….developmental project..big Boy, 308lbs converted TE….still pissed we don’t have Todd Marquardt as a developmental OT

  54. 54 Anders said at 7:02 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Must read imo


  55. 55 eagleyankfan said at 7:16 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    good read. Well, not good that the Eagles players can’t handle the return game. I do get it’s not easy to hold the blocks for so long…

  56. 56 Andy124 said at 7:04 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Logan’s Run. Awesome.

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 7:19 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I see no point in adding an OLB since they continue to play Cole all game and not take a look at Graham,.,

    I have a hard time labeling Soap a bust, when he did exactly what we thought he would do to begin with…Did we get rid of him because he was a disappointment? Or because they are satisfied with the transition our young lineman have made and that they no longer feel the need to baby them with a stop gap player? The way this young Dline continues to improve, makes me think it’s the latter….Soap I’m sure helped the young players make the transition to a new scheme…he occupied snaps long enough to not have to put too much on young guys plates too soon..,the young guys look like they are ready, so it seems like he did his job as a stop gap, and now that they guys are ready, we jumped at an opportunity to get out of the contract, get some value in return, and get our young guys some more playing time…I’m sure his famous study habits had to rub off on some young linemen..,I like exposing young talents to as many different veterans who have had NFL longevity as we can…If Cox and Thorton took something away from their time with Patterson! Jenkins and now Soap…it can only help…

    He certainly didn’t exceed our expectations, but I don’t know that he let us down either….

  58. 58 A_T_G said at 7:26 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Agreed. He was a stop gap. If they feel the gap is now stopped, they are ready to move on.

  59. 59 GEAGLE said at 7:49 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Heck,,if we are ready to move on from the stop gap, bailing early from a contract, getting young players more playing time, and getting any type of draft value in return is always a WIN!!!

  60. 60 A_T_G said at 7:25 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    No more Soap to clean up things in the middle, and not a lot of compensation for him.

    Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap.

  61. 61 Zivetor said at 7:37 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Logan is the new Trevor Laws! Should’ve drafted John Jenkins and called it a day.

  62. 62 GEAGLE said at 12:06 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Rather have the ravens Brandon Williams, but Logan was a damn good pick,ATleast he should prove to be eventually

  63. 63 planetx1971 said at 8:28 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Tommy I couldn’t have resisted titling this “Eagles drop the soap” lol

  64. 64 ztom6 said at 8:28 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Logan has played hardly any NT in the reg season so far. usually it’s been Thornton playing there when Soap’s not the field, no? I’m thinking Thornton can slide over to NT at least part of the time and allow for more opportunities for Curry and Geathers.

  65. 65 BobSmith77 said at 9:23 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Addition by subtraction trade. Get a chance to take a look at Logan over the final half of the season and see if he can be penciled in there as the starter next year.

    Wonder if the Eagles tried to move Casey and just got no takers.

  66. 66 Insomniac said at 10:25 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Now watch the Pats win the Superbowl. Soap to clean the Hoody and Brady’s ass when he hemorrhoids after his WRs suck.

  67. 67 Anders said at 10:54 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Little off topic, but this one is for GEagles and AC Viking and it relates to the need for big targets on offense.

    What would you guys think of a combination of drafting the 6’5″ 225 lbs WR Mike Evans in the first and then draft 6’6″ 276 lbs TE Austin Seferian Jenkins in the 2nd?

    Simply have Maclin (after we re-sign him) and Jackson on the outside taking the top of the defense and then have those two mammoths terrorize LBs and smaller nickle CBs in the middle?

  68. 68 mksp said at 11:20 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    I actually like Mike Evans in the first…..though Sammy Watkins is much more dynamic and you don’t take the risk of taking a guy in the first round who will prove to just be too slow to be a #1 receiver in the NFL.

    I still don’t like Austin Seferian Jenkins. Just feel like he doesn’t give a ton of effort. Would rather take Ebron who’s more athletic, if not 280.

  69. 69 Anders said at 11:40 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Guys like Gholston, Boldin or Vincent Jackson isn’t very fast. I think speed can be overrated sometimes. I really like Ebron, but he will go mid first.

    The problem for Austin is that the qb situation and the whole Washington offense isn’t really that good

  70. 70 anon said at 12:11 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I think personality matters too — we need a ball hogging beast. A guy who you can throw that 50/50 ball to and he’s going to get it and truck some dude on the way to the end zone. The probablity of us getting A. Rodgers isn’t great. But an Ok QB will look way better w/ a Dez Bryant or AJ Green type to throw too.

  71. 71 Insomniac said at 12:17 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Marvin Jones and Andy Dalton?

  72. 72 BlindChow said at 12:54 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Vincent Jackson ran a 4.46.

  73. 73 Anders said at 5:57 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    yea I forgot that. I do know Boldin ran slower than slow tho.

  74. 74 knighn said at 8:14 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Yeah, don’t ever look at the 2005 NFL Draft. You will be utterly depressed with what the Eagles picked versus what they could have very realistically picked.

  75. 75 Anders said at 8:31 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Same could be said quite a few drafts. Tho 2005 did get us Trent Cole and Todd Herremans

  76. 76 GEAGLE said at 12:13 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Ebron isn’t getting past the packers in rd 1

  77. 77 GEAGLE said at 12:17 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    How much difference in speed was there between Davis Boston and Evans? I don’t know why, but everytime I see Evans make a big play, David Boston pops into my head which is strange because I was in my teens when Boston played

  78. 78 Insomniac said at 12:02 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I wouldn’t mind taking Evans if we traded back and racked up an extra pick. Jenkins, I have an issue with. I don’t care how much Chip tried to sell his TE packages to the public. Ertz and Casey were picked up for these mismatches. I have yet to see those. Jenkins is a luxury that we can’t afford.

  79. 79 Anders said at 6:01 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    What has Casey anything to do with Jenkins? It is two totally different skill sets, so I could care less that Casey can see the field. Jenkins would 100% be a solution towards our lack of size on offense.

    Watch his TD vs the Ducks in the middle of the video http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?id=332850264

    We have nobody who can do that.

  80. 80 GEAGLE said at 12:12 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Shiiiiiiiiiiit you know how I feel about both!! If we don’t get an OLB, it BETTER be because we took a combo of:
    UNC TE Ebron in rd 1/Allen Robinson in round two…
    I always maintained that Ertz and Jenkins could give us a nasty one two punch for years to come…initially Austin Jenkins was though of in the 8-13 range,..but many people seem to think Ebron has leaped him. Assuming the packers replace Finley with Ebron, if Jenkins can get past the Patriots, there is a chance he could fall to round 2.. I love ERTZY, but I think Austin J enjoins is a better prospect….I haven’t watched much of Ebron yet(just going by word of mouth with him)

  81. 81 anon said at 12:27 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Think it’s too high for a TE. Vets move around all the time in the offseason. A little annoyed we got a guy so “raw” w/ our 2nd round pick, who through 8 games hasn’t flashed at all.

  82. 82 Anders said at 1:39 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Ertz have flashed in the few snaps he do get.

  83. 83 GEAGLE said at 2:10 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    What’s too high for a TE?

    I don’t believe in devaluing positions…and any position can be used as a weapon of impact if you have a good enough player…I do agree with Tom in that it wouldn’t be surprising if the graduation rule hurt Ertz early on…the kid was getting his feet wet, he was growing, as soon as it seemed he was ready to break thru, our QB situation went down the drain,,.
    I have little doubts that a good committed kid, with all the size we could ask for, a great athlete and advanced route runner is going to grow into a valuable weapon for us….Assuming FOles progresses the way I expect him to, I expect ERTZY to break out at some point this season..but if it doesn’t happen til next year, so what? The important thing is him being a stud for us in years 3-8

  84. 84 RIPJJ said at 11:05 PM on October 29th, 2013:

    Now with Soap gone lets go ahead and load up on a Jeff Maehl type of person who played for Kelly in Oregon and plays Special Teams well…

  85. 85 anon said at 12:08 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I do feel like that’s going to be the next press conference. We had to drop soap b/c he couldn’t play on special teams.

  86. 86 eagleyankfan said at 7:50 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    If that’s the case — 1/2 the special teams should be dropped — like Casey Mathews…

  87. 87 Stormbringer said at 12:39 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Since this post is about being “out of Soap” and they are insistent everyone has to be a 2-gapper, how about getting the NT we always needed in the 2nd or 3rd round? Daniel McCullers. That guy is so big even Chuck Norris wouldn’t go near him. He can’t rush like Louis Nix but what C in the entire league can move him out of the way?

  88. 88 Insomniac said at 2:59 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I like McCullers but he needs to keep his weight down. What he’s doing in college won’t translate into the NFL. He needs to start learning techniques since he already has that crazy strength. Stephen Paea a recent second round pick was strong as hell too but he didn’t have much pass rush moves. He’s not really doing much now. I see McCullers as a bigger/fatter/slower version of Paea.

  89. 89 ICDogg said at 3:07 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    He’s on Da Bears

  90. 90 Insomniac said at 3:15 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I was going to edit and refer to how he isn’t doing much but it’s 3AM. I wanted Paea during the draft too.

  91. 91 Stormbringer said at 9:31 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    He looks in pretty good shape (well proportioned) for his weight. He is almost King Dunlap height and he isn’t one of those guys who’s belly hangs out.

    He has unbelievable strength. If I watch him in clips, he’s getting double or triple teamed on most plays. When he get to concentrate on just one guy he tosses them out of the way like a rag doll. Check out from the :17-:21 mark here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs4DKpeTH1M.

    I doubt there are many people who can do that to Georgia’s center.

  92. 92 mksp said at 9:58 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Depending where we pick Hageman (from Minnesota) could be the guy. Shows more of a motor than Nix. I’d be down. Could be available mid to late 1st.

  93. 93 GermanEagle said at 3:15 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I really don’t understand why the Eagles don’t sign DeShawn Shead to the active roster. His PS salary from the Seahawks may be high, but the Eagles could easily afford him…

  94. 94 Anders said at 6:03 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    They already tried, but he preferred to be with the Hawks. The Hawks already pay him the same the Eagles would.

  95. 95 GermanEagle said at 6:07 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Where did you get this info? I only saw that the Hawks have topped up and fully guaranteed Shead his PS salary, hence turning off other teams.
    However the Eagles trying to sign him is news to me…

  96. 96 Anders said at 8:04 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I cant remember where I read it, but I do remember it from the start of the season when they topped it.

    My google skills is failing me right now, so it might have been another player, but Im pretty sure it is him.

  97. 97 planetx1971 said at 4:38 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I sure would’ve loved it if we could’ve worked a deal for someone to kick start our suddenly defunct offense. Such a disappointment. I know our QB troubles hurt us in a big way but it also sure doesn’t help that Stephen Hawking could give Riley Cooper a run for his money in a 40 yd dash. While I’m voicing worries, Chips seemingly weekly rookie coaching gaffes have been EXCEEDINGLY frustrating. Makes me wonder if things could’ve been easier on him if he’d hired a traditional O coordinator to run his system & call Plays while Chipper got acclimated to the big show. I’m confident I’ll get roasted for alot of this or told I’m just “overreacting” but this stuff keeps me up at night. I like Chip, I want him to succeed & I know he is insanely smart. But I also know that NFL history is LITTERED with the carcasses of genius’s that were going to reinvent the proverbial wheel.I d

  98. 98 GermanEagle said at 6:55 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Just watching the Raiders vs. Steelers game and I must say that I am fairly impressed with Oakland’s D. Their athletic front 7 will be a great challenge for our struggling offense line. Don’t expect Nick Foles or whoever will be under center is going to put up lots of points on the scoreboard.
    Also Terrell Pryor and the read-zone option offense will be a big test for our young D Line as well as our line backers. Kendricks needs to have a big game in order to control Oakland’s running game.
    That being said I rather expect a low-scoring game which could very well come down to only a FG.

  99. 99 GEAGLE said at 2:13 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Yeah man…tried to warn people about their defense and no one wants to hear it….we never win in Oakland, and that defense plays hard and fast at home…I remember watching the steelers game thinking! damn I hope they don’t hit our boys that hard!!!…should be a really stern test for FOles as he tries to rally this offense out of a serious slump

  100. 100 GermanEagle said at 7:22 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    What do you guys make of Peter King’s comment that the “Eagles are the disappointment of the season”?!
    I think it’s a bit harsh, however I can understand where he’s coming from.
    So besides the Eagles who are your disappointments so far?

  101. 101 eagleyankfan said at 7:27 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Giants and Vikings. I normally hate the Giants — but they are pathetic. Vikings are a mess. Oh — and TB. Egads.

  102. 102 Bob Brewer said at 7:28 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    It has to Atlanta doesn’t it?

  103. 103 eagleyankfan said at 7:48 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    If you’re including injuries – then yes. Otherwise — losing your two top wideouts and starting rb hurts a ton. Hard to say they disappointments because of the injuries to impact players.

  104. 104 anon said at 10:36 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I think Eagles are disappointing b/c of the Redskins game AND b/c we thought Chip was just smarter than everyone else. We were obsessed with the All 22s and seeing just how people have schemed. Our biggest issue was our D. If anything we could score points and get yards. Now we can’t score and our QB situation has gone from good to terrible. We haven’t been able to execute a lot of the plays well and we haven’t seen a lot of the cool stuff we were expecting from CK (4TE sets, 3TE sets, double stacks, etc.) That said these rankings are purely dependent on the prior weeks performance so i think we can turn it around. I really want to go to the playoffs.

  105. 105 RobNE said at 9:10 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    he drives me nuts. The reason he gave isn’t that they are the worst but they are the worst compared to the (media’s) blown out of proportion predictions that Chip would revolutionize the game. There are some writers out there who just can’t resist this. TMQB also wrote how Chip has been figured out and how Chip acted like he owned the NFL during the Redskins game (this is just implied by the author). Just seems like everyone enjoys kicking us, even though it’s not fully deserved.

  106. 106 mksp said at 10:01 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Texans, Bucs, Falcons, Steelers, Redskins, Bears and Rams are all under achieving / disappointing as well IMO.

    National media wanted Chip to set the world on fire from Day 1. Doesn’t work that way. Not to mention, Chip has gone through an adjustment period at every level anyway. Its the NFL. We’ll be watching a different team next year.

  107. 107 eagleyankfan said at 7:31 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    So is Foles “really” healthy? Its understood that there are a lot more tests to pass for concussion but I do have to wonder. You’d have to imagine there are a ton of tests for a ham string too yet they trotted Vick out there.
    I do hope Foles is ok. We had a young boy here get a concussion while playing football in the fall. He’s on my travel baseball team. He was cleared by doctors to play limited, no contact sports. Two weeks later, all the concussion symptoms came back. I just hope Foles is indeed healthy.

  108. 108 anon said at 10:28 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    my friend got a concussion (non sport related) and she struggled with symptons for a while.

  109. 109 eagleyankfan said at 7:51 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I’m thinking Soap being traded is a sign of movements within the Eagles team that are starting to happen. You know the “can’t say we’re bagging this year” thing? That’s kind of what’s happening…

  110. 110 anon said at 10:26 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    He got moved b/c he wasn’t good. But it’s been bagged since the offseason.

  111. 111 barneygoogle said at 9:07 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    Freddy Mitchell is available. We need a wideout. We get lots of 4th and 26’s now.

  112. 112 ohitsdom said at 10:35 AM on October 30th, 2013:

    I fell asleep reading this article and dreamed that Tommy though the deal was awesome, and somehow from the deal we’d be able to get a stud OLB in the supplemental draft(?!?!). In my dream I was outraged and began researching if any good OLB ever was taken in a supplemental draft. I was unable to complete my research before I woke up, so I don’t have any data to disprove your point, T Law.

  113. 113 GEAGLE said at 12:01 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Chip flipped out on Zack Berman and some other media members today…

  114. 114 GEAGLE said at 12:18 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Chip announced that FOles will start this week……BEAUTIFUL!!! Now I’m pumped up!

  115. 115 anon said at 12:25 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Haha i’m happy it’s not MB, i’m hoping Foles shows something awesome, but I’m less excited than I was after the TB game. I wonder how i would feel about the eagles if i was not an Eagles fan. No touchdowns in 2 games — that’s jaguar status.

  116. 116 GEAGLE said at 1:13 PM on October 30th, 2013:

    Dude….we had our 3rd string QB in the past game and a quarter….I don’t care if you are the broncos! you get down to your 3rd string, especially a rookie with a quarter of NFL experience and your offense just isn’t going to put up many points…..there is no point in looking around the league and seeing QBs have success as rookies…it’s apples and oranges…the rookies you see have success, have the entire franchise committed to their success on a daily basis…even if your back up gets two or 3 weeks of all the first team reps, it’s really not the same thing….young QBs who are successful have offenses tailored after them(yet we are seeing right handed Barkley and FOles running plays for a left handed QB at times)…our kids get a week or two of spot duty after getting thrust into games, significantly less prepared than the starting QBs they are playing against…
    We haven’t put in the time to go all in, grooming our kids, so we don’t get to judge them with the same learning curves at the other young QBs we see….we haven’t developed them as starters, if anything we are developing them as backups…
    There is just no way anyone can say, that we have done everything to put our young QBs in the best situation to succeed…yet the young QBs we are judging them against, have the entire franchise doing EVERYTHNG they can on a daily basis to try and make their kids successful…..Tannahill is friggin average, yet for a year and a half now he has had an entire organization completely committed to growing him into a good QB..That kid has a way bigger arm than FOles, but I don’t know that FOles couldn’t be a better QB than him, if we invested in him the way they did with Tannehill..

    It’s really nauseating not knowing WTF we have in our young kids…and “for who? For what?”, average at best Mike Vick who couldn’t play 16 games if you dangled 100billion in his face? Trent Cole? A guy playing the most important position on defense that requires double digit sack production, who hasn’t notched a single Sack in the past 13 games? A guy who hasn’t had a multiple sack game since December of 2010?….the most important position on offense was given to 33year old Mike Vick? And the most important position on defense was given to old man Cole? And for WHAT??? To be led to a 3-5 record and a 10 game losing streak at home? it’s Friggin Insanity, someone put a friggin stop to this crap…
    You want to spend your games growing Nick FOles, Vinny Curry, Brandon Graham, Zack Ertz? I will happily support the team, spend my money going to games, and lose my mind rooting for this team that I know isn’t going to win, and that would be fine by me because we would be working towards one day improving our future situation..with these kids either growing into the answer, or just being able to know that they aren’t the answer is more valuable than what has gone on this year…it’s maddening especially when the old men aren’t drastically better than the kids they are keeping on the bench….I’m sorry, but no one can convince me that FOles couldn’t have gone 3-5 playing against the bad teams we faced on our schedule…that wouldn’t mean that he is the answer as our franchise QB, but it would mean that we would be seeing a much better FOles for the second half of here season because we gave him experience the first 8 games…
    This is absurd. I had all the patience in world for Chip if he was going to build something…I have NO DAMN patience for losing with young high draft picks sitting on the bench…a year and a half and FOles and Curry don’t even have 10 games under their belt….and for what???? So that we could go 7-17???? And people wanna tell me, relax, Chip doesn’t have his pieces yet? Well if these aren’t his damn pieces, then why the hell aren’t we going young, in hopes that ATleast 1 unexpected “future piece” emerges???……like why did I have to wait for Vick to do what everyone knew he was gong to do, GET FOCKIn HURT and miss times to get to this point? WTF do I have to do to get B randon Graham on the field?
    Sorry for the Rant…thought this would be therepuetic…but it didn’t help!

  117. 117 Wilbert M. said at 11:44 PM on November 1st, 2013:

    Sione Pouha was the right pickup at NG – not Soap. Bad judgment. Yes, either was a band-aid, but one could play and the other couldn’t. Let’s hope the FA choices don’t continue this way. Things aren’t looking so good when Fletcher and Cary Williams are the cream of our FA crop. Casey can’t get off the bench, Barwin is just OK, Benn on IR, ,,,,,uggh.