Busy 3rd Round – Pick and a Trade

Posted: May 9th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 235 Comments »

The Eagles traded out of pick 83. They gave that to the Texans and got a 4th rounder and 5th rounder in return. Both picks are the first in those rounds. That’s important, but I’ll cover that later.

At pick 86 the Eagles added another WR, Josh Huff from Oregon.

I like Huff quite a bit. He is 5-11, 205. He can play in the slot. Huff is quick and fast. He will work the middle of the field. Huff has good RAC skills. He also adds value as a KOR. Huff exploded as a Senior, going 62-1140-12. He took the step from being a role player to being a star player. He projects to being a role player in the NFL.

Obviously Huff is a good fit for the offense since he played in the scheme at Oregon and thrived. He should be able to fit in quickly and immediately push for playing time.

I didn’t have Huff rated this early, but I do like him a lot as a player. I would have had him slotted more in the 4th round area. That’s not significantly different that pick 86, though, so this isn’t some crazy move. And I think the fact that Chip knows him so well had to help the Eagles grade on Huff. They know he’ll block. They know he’ll play STs. And so on. Not as much projection with a guy like him.

235 Comments on “Busy 3rd Round – Pick and a Trade”

1 Mike Marchlik said at 10:50 PM on May 9th, 2014:
First
2 McNabbulousness said at 10:50 PM on May 9th, 2014:
damn
3 Richard Colton said at 10:56 PM on May 9th, 2014:
dork
4 Charlie Kelly said at 10:50 PM on May 9th, 2014:
i like it. i like huff way more then donte moncrief.
5 Raul Estrada said at 7:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Moncrief now has Reggie Wayne to learn from.
6 Charlie Kelly said at 7:59 PM on May 10th, 2014:
uhhh.. ok
7 Mike Marchlik said at 10:50 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Can you imagine the defense this team could be building if they just Didnt cut the fastest player in the NFL???
8 McNabbulousness said at 10:51 PM on May 9th, 2014:
unfortunately its not that simple
9 Weapon Y said at 12:05 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Yes it is
10 McNabbulousness said at 10:51 PM on May 9th, 2014:
im going to trade this post for two posts to be named later
11 phillychuck said at 10:51 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Better be a heck of a kick returner since there are about 2 of them per week now in the NFL.
12 Ark87 said at 10:52 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Well Matt Millen Raves about Moncreif, soooo, feeling better about not picking him
13 Dominik said at 10:53 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Hate to be on the hater site on this one, maybe I’m more ok with that move tomorrow, but that’s just a shitty pick at this position in the draft. That’s how Raiders or Cowboys fans have to feel all the time.
And the Colts snatch Moncrief. Thanks for that.
14 ztom6 said at 10:53 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Can’t say I like the value they’ve been getting. Huff could easily have been there at the top of the 4th with the pick from the Texans. Tons of value flying around in the 3rd and we get Josh Huff. Seems like a luxury pick to me.
15 GEAGLE said at 10:54 PM on May 9th, 2014:
No shot in hell that huff wouldnt have been on the board with the first pick in round 4,,.’we shit the bed
16 ztom6 said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Yeah I don’t dislike any of the players they’ve been getting, I just don’t like the picks. This is a very talented draft, so other teams getting a lot better all around the NFL. Eagles not doing anything to separate themselves…. meanwhile Carolina just picked the guy I wanted (Trai Turner).
17 GEAGLE said at 10:53 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Colts got moncreif #1 upside…we got a #5 WR and ST player…i dont even mind huff, but round 3 is a joke.
.,.
I get called a rosey optimist, but no one better try and sugar coat this bullshit…he is like fhe 25th ranked WR prospect….this is terrible…rather have taylor hart if we needed to draft a duck….the trade was good..
…
Someone please try and friggin tell me huff wouldnt have been on the board at the beginning of round 4? Fock outta here…
18 Ark87 said at 10:55 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Not to mention we don’t really need another WR, there are other positions we could reach for better value.
19 GEAGLE said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Id rather have Brandon Coleman as just a redzone weapon…we will be fortunate if Huff us half the Wr avant was…you dont take Huff in the top 100… This is crazy.. Im going to sleep. This is a joke. Toke til I choke and pass out. Im ghost… Goodnight
20 Ark87 said at 10:58 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Take it easy bud. see you Tomorrow will be better for us, I feel it.
21 GEAGLE said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Hope so….i thought we were past the horrible draft picks…first pick in the kelly era i said anything negative about….night
22 anon said at 11:10 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Where’s Tom Gamble at?
23 GEAGLE said at 11:12 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Better have been arrested with two hookers, “Lucy…u got,some espalannin to do” …i cant believe huff is the 3rd player we added..thats sooo bad
24 Charlie Kelly said at 12:55 AM on May 10th, 2014:
its a good pick. more excited about huff then the smith pick
25 Richard Colton said at 10:59 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I was pulling for Jones and Desir at 83 and 86. Huff is a head scratcher. If he’s our 4th WR out of the gate, plus our kick off returner AND the gunner on punts…ok…I can live with it.
26 GEAGLE said at 11:02 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Thats not acceptable for a top 100 pick in a deep draft..he would have been on the board with the first pick in round 4 we got from texans. And even that would be a reach…we played ourselves
..You better get a starting talent in round 3, we didnt. Period
27 tball_man said at 10:53 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I love how when there is a head scratching ‘reach’ pick, you can look at the trade back.. And see assurance through Howie acquiring an extra pick to accompany the ‘reach’
28 OregonDucker said at 10:54 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Thanks Tommy for your comments on Huff. Frankly, I am pissed about the pick but I trust your judgement and Chip’s. I still need some air though, this one got me hot under the collar.
29 Jernst said at 10:55 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I don’t know anything about Huff. Why do you dislike him so much?
30 OregonDucker said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
He tends to lose focus in critical pass situations. Kind of like the Coop drop in the playoff game. He needs to learn to focus better in critical situations. He is a playmaker and Chip likes him in long bomb situations. He has delivered in the past. But some of his drops piss me off big time.
31 Baloophi said at 10:59 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Of course the one time he doesn’t drop is in the draft…
32 Jernst said at 10:59 PM on May 9th, 2014:
If he improved the focus part of his game, do you think he has the skill set of a starting NFL WR otherwise? Do you think he’s a third round talent if he improved on his dropped passes?
33 OregonDucker said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Yes, he has potential with the right coaching. I just don’t like him at #3 but Chip clearly does, so I defer to the genius.
34 Jernst said at 11:02 PM on May 9th, 2014:
thanks for the input
35 Anderson said at 12:24 AM on May 10th, 2014:
50 yr.Duck fan says Huff is going to show up!!just wait and see…be happy, dont worry.
36 GEAGLE said at 11:00 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Because there was no shot of him beinv drafted before we draft again in round 4. He has good role player potential..their were still raw WRs to develop with starting potential…not a bad player, no shot in hell anypne can justify taking him in the top 100
37 Jernst said at 11:03 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I get all that…the pick was clearly not a great value pick and a definite reach. I was just asking Ducker specifically because he is an Oregon fan, watches him a lot, and seems to really dislike him.
38 anon said at 11:05 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I guess who cares we have 4 picks in 4 and 5? Is there anyone that you would have taken that we’d miss between now and pick 101?
39 livingonapear said at 3:21 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I’ll admit, I don’t know why we took him over Moncrief. That’s really my main issue with the pick.
Having said that, I understand why we want him on the team. Hard to tackle, not afraid to block or hit on special teams. Works well in coverage and runs sneaky routes that suddenly get him open. I think a trips formation with him, Ertz and Matthews will do nicely. obviously there’s the versatility thing, lining him up for in the backfield, or using him as a pitch man. I’m not sure how I feel about that though.
Howie wants a team that’s not afraid to shove back when Richard Sherman and Barandon Browner come shoving, and that’s cool. Soft rub routes won’t do it, so you want guys who can make the catches with a hand on their jersey, or who can push through a tackle. Still…3rd round.
40 A_T_G said at 10:55 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Oh, God, no. Millen likes the Huff pick. We are doomed.
41 planetx1971 said at 10:55 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I was just reading up on him & it says that he lines up all over, good in the slot, good blocker & has “RB like” RAC skills. Soooo……Maybe??
42 Baloophi said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
He lines up best in the 5th round…
43 planetx1971 said at 11:05 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Touché Just tired of feeling like we we have been passing over better guys time and AGAIN. Big Fay C- draft in the works me thinks . : ( was Christian Jones still available? I HOPE NOT….
44 anon said at 11:05 PM on May 9th, 2014:
He’s off the board.
45 Jamie Parker said at 11:09 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I think Jones is still available.
46 anon said at 11:10 PM on May 9th, 2014:
i mean off our board w/ that drug situation.
47 OregonDucker said at 11:13 PM on May 9th, 2014:
He is a great blocker. Sacrifices his body to hit big LBs and DBs. Very un-Desean like with contact. Chip loves his hitting.
48 anon said at 11:14 PM on May 9th, 2014:
he loves blocking, he doesn’t seem to like hitting.
49 Ark87 said at 10:55 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Ohshit, Millen is raving about Huff too
50 McNabbulousness said at 10:56 PM on May 9th, 2014:
its alright, he isn’t a first round wr
51 scratcherk said at 10:56 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Funny thing is we’re getting great values with the trades but poor values with the picks.
52 phillychuck said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Trades are mainly Howie, picks are Chip’s.
Hmmmm….
53 Baloophi said at 10:56 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m all for getting your guy, but they better have had somebody planted in the rooms of the 15 teams picking between 86 and 101 that said Huff was going in that range.
54 Mike Marchlik said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Two-time honorable mention All-Pac-12 pick (2012-13).
Honorable mention is honorable to mention
55 anon said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
haahhaahahah, sort of surprised kelly seems so lost this draft.
56 scratcherk said at 10:57 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Goes turner.
57 Bob Brewer said at 10:58 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Blech
58 GermanEagle said at 10:59 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Ladies and gents, welcome to Philadelphia. The home of the Ducks.
59 anon said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
are you there right now?
60 GermanEagle said at 11:02 PM on May 9th, 2014:
You mean at the Draft?! No man, I didn’t go in the end.
61 anon said at 11:02 PM on May 9th, 2014:
probably better. I’m thinking of going tomorrow, but the way these picks are falling might just save myself the grief.
62 GermanEagle said at 11:04 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I just chose not to go. They might trade down again and end up picking 4 more WR’s in the 7th round.
63 planetx1971 said at 10:59 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Even though they are meaningless, granted, I feel like we’ve got a big fat C commingle on our grade. Feels like we’ve passed over more talented players. Time after time. : /
64 GermanEagle said at 11:00 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I gotta agree with you on this one. Time will tell, but my guts not telling me any nice things so far.
65 Baloophi said at 11:00 PM on May 9th, 2014:
It’s probably every duck’s dream to become an eagle…
66 GermanEagle said at 11:01 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Stop being a copy duck, mate.
67 OregonDucker said at 11:05 PM on May 9th, 2014:
No, we want to become Seahawks. (Just kidding, here in Oregon real seahawks get their asses kicked by Eagles over fish, nests, etc. I see it all the time in the refuge that my house borders. Truth.)
68 Baloophi said at 11:12 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m sure this is illegal in the U.S., but a cage-match between an eagle and a seahawk would be a pretty sweet pay-per-view event.
(Ornithology update: a seahawk (or “sea hawk”) is actually an osprey… which differs from an eagle because it has a reversible outer toe.. Learning – it’s fundamental))
69 OregonDucker said at 11:14 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Eagles are much bigger, and meaner. Really, there is no contest with an Osprey. They fly away like a bat out ah hell.
Eagles are mean mofo’s in the wild.
70 Baloophi said at 11:19 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Now we got bats in this thing??? I thought we’d save them for Bird Smash 4…
71 Ark87 said at 12:03 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Get your learn on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_SjhcdF_J4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
72 Cliff said at 11:00 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Some of you guys get waaaaaaay too worked up over these picks. Just look at it this way – Nate Ilaoa was once the consensus TATE Best Draft Selection, our most successful QB in team history was infamously booed on stage, and most fans thought DeSean Jackson (the same WR we all claim to miss so dearly) wouldn’t survive the physicality of training camp. In short, we’re all idiots.
73 McNabbulousness said at 11:02 PM on May 9th, 2014:
FUCK YOU MAN YOU’RE WRONG…wait you’re right we are idiots
74 Cliff said at 11:03 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I was a big Dion Lewis and Macho Harris fan. 🙁
75 Charlie Kelly said at 12:13 AM on May 10th, 2014:
dion had some nice lil compact jukes.. but zero explosion.. and no success at catching passes
76 OregonDucker said at 11:04 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I reluctantly and humbly agree. I am an idiot when it comes to the draft.
77 GermanEagle said at 11:03 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I really hate to bring his name up again, but what if Kelly actually liked DeSean..?! Guess we would have seen more resources spent on the defense side in this draft so far…!
78 Insomniac said at 11:09 PM on May 9th, 2014:
What if we had…
Latimer
Nix/Jones
Desir/Gaines
instead of
Matthews
Huff
79 GermanEagle said at 11:12 PM on May 9th, 2014:
DeSean >>> Matthews + Huff + 4 more slot WRs
80 Baloophi said at 11:04 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Does this entire draft seem super weird to anyone else?
Edit for clarification: Not just Philly picks… but all the picks.
81 Cliff said at 11:06 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I think it’s playing out like TL suggested a few weeks ago. We assumed the Eagles would try to upgrade the defense, but maybe Chip is like “F it, we’ll go all in on offense.” Live and die by the sword.
82 Baloophi said at 11:06 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I meant all the picks (not just Philly)…
83 anon said at 11:08 PM on May 9th, 2014:
nah honestly, i think some people are picking well. It’s just much easier at the top of the draft than the bottom especially when you’re only working for your picks.
84 GermanEagle said at 11:06 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I. Don’t. Like. So. Far.
85 Jernst said at 11:07 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Not a single pick was expected.
86 planetx1971 said at 11:09 PM on May 9th, 2014:
It REALLY does. I really had such high hopes. I don’t see a lot of “future stars” to put it MILDLY. Really disheartening man…
87 Charlie Kelly said at 12:11 AM on May 10th, 2014:
No. 2 Wrs 1 OLB. seems just right. A lil goofy in the choices, but im not surprised by any of the WRs. at all. always seemed like matthews would be a perfect fit with chip.
88 SteveH said at 11:04 PM on May 9th, 2014:
You know, its times like these that I just love that the Cleveland Browns exist. Because I can look at them, and think, no matter what the Eagles do, they will never take the most hyped up quarterback in their teams history, and accompany that with the news that their star wide receiver will probably be suspended for the season for drugs.
89 phillychuck said at 11:06 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Only way Huff has value for us is if he’s one hell of a punt returner. I don’t think he did that at Oregon, did he?
90 GermanEagle said at 11:07 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Paging. Chad. Hall.
91 Charlie Kelly said at 12:10 AM on May 10th, 2014:
he has value as.. get this.. WR. i know its crazy…
92 GEAGLE said at 11:06 PM on May 9th, 2014:
You better get a solid starter in round 3…we drafted a back up and ST player in the top 100’of a deep draft…unacceptable…if you dont get a started in round 3, you shit the bed.. Period
93 GermanEagle said at 11:08 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Since day 2 is in the books I wanted to tell you that I need 16 more upvotes. Thanks.
94 GEAGLE said at 11:10 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I cant wrap my brain around huff being the 3rd,player we drafted,id he happy if he were the 6th player we drafted
95 Insomniac said at 11:11 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Now Dri is gone.
96 anon said at 11:12 PM on May 9th, 2014:
we aren’t getting anyone we actually wanted. hope they do much better tomorrow.
97 Insomniac said at 11:13 PM on May 9th, 2014:
There’s literally no redemption for that Huff pick. We could have had some high upside defensive guys over him.
98 anon said at 11:13 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Defense? We talking about Defense? Defense?
99 Insomniac said at 11:14 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Lol.
100 GEAGLE said at 11:14 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Huff is like a welfare jarvus landry if that makes you feel better. I know thate your boy 🙂
101 Insomniac said at 11:14 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Nope not even close.
102 Charlie Kelly said at 12:09 AM on May 10th, 2014:
that doesnt even make sense, too completely different players and skill sets
103 Ark87 said at 11:11 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Ok listen guys, Huls is going to Ivan Drogo all these fools anywho, it’s going to basically be 7 first round picks when it’s all said an done. Smoothies set this draft freeee!
104 Baloophi said at 11:16 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I don’t even know what’s going on with this post but I love it, Ark!
105 Ark87 said at 11:27 PM on May 9th, 2014:
1 too many Alcohol and disillusionment smoothies, sorry
106 Ark87 said at 11:36 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I had an interview with Huls the other day, freightening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6K3IvJzJRg
107 mksp said at 11:12 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I mean, Dri in the 3rd is pretty hilarious too.
108 Baloophi said at 11:15 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Having the first pick tomorrow should lead to some spirited discussion in this here space…
109 Insomniac said at 11:16 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Desir,Watkins, C.Jones, D.Jones, or someone else that I’ll hate.
110 Baloophi said at 11:17 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Ha!
111 anon said at 11:16 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Annoyed we gotta wait until noon tomorrow for a good pick.
112 Baloophi said at 11:17 PM on May 9th, 2014:
You should look into Pacific Standard Time… sometimes it has its benefits…
113 planetx1971 said at 11:17 PM on May 9th, 2014:
First guy that ever went to college from his tribe. Sooo…..there…that??
114 mksp said at 11:17 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Desir or Christian Jones still possibilities tomorrow.
115 McNabbulousness said at 11:18 PM on May 9th, 2014:
desir still available!
116 anon said at 11:38 PM on May 9th, 2014:
hopefully they go back to the war room and figure some things out
117 76mustang said at 11:18 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Tommy, thanks for being the voice of reason and providing perspective on the selections and strategy. Of all the writers, you seem to have the best finger on the pulse of what the Eagles are doing (nice call on Marcus Smith, and on trading back with one of the 3rd round picks).
Holding the first selection in the 4th (and 5th) round is strong – teams will be resetting their boards tonight and jockeying for their guy – Eagles will either take someone they love at 101 or trade back and collect more picks – either way, they’ll have the night and next morning to make their decision(s).
118 anon said at 11:39 PM on May 9th, 2014:
no one could predict this craziness — how do you overdraft on every pick? I hope chip doesn’t turn into jerry jones.
119 mksp said at 11:20 PM on May 9th, 2014:
GUYS. It can always be worse.
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/dneagles/Meet-the-Eagles-2011-Draft-Class.html
120 Thorin said at 11:20 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Look, if you take a dude who still would have been there for your next pick, you’ve made a mistake. And Huff’s grade on NFL.com was 4-6.
I don’t know how reliable the NFL ratings are, but all of these guys are rated at 5.5-6: possible NFL starter.
121 Weapon Y said at 11:20 PM on May 9th, 2014:
So who’s the 4th round pick tomorrow? LB Christian Jones? DT DaQuan Jones?
122 Richard Colton said at 11:21 PM on May 9th, 2014:
how about tonight?!?
123 ICDogg said at 11:21 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m not going to bother guessing, every pick has been a surprise to say the least
124 D3FB said at 11:22 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Auctioned off to the highest bidder for their fourth round pick and their fourth rounder next year.
125 Ark87 said at 11:24 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Hope so, kinda feels like we’re out of players on our board after that last pick. I do believe a lot of the players this team liked got snatched away shortly before our picks.
126 Arby1 said at 11:24 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Christian Jones or Jordan Tripp after we trade down.
127 Richard Colton said at 11:25 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Desir, then hope Jones falls far enough to take
128 Arby1 said at 11:25 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I mean, the best WR still on the board.
129 Arby1 said at 11:26 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Sorry, is it still too soon?
130 Baloophi said at 11:30 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Never!
131 Charlie Kelly said at 12:08 AM on May 10th, 2014:
how about another WR and de’anthony thomas
132 Ark87 said at 11:21 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Well, He’s heavy for his height…there’s that
http://mockdraftable.com/player/4485/
133 Baloophi said at 11:22 PM on May 9th, 2014:
That should make him more relatable to the fanbase…
134 Ark87 said at 11:22 PM on May 9th, 2014:
lets call it stoutness
135 Baloophi said at 11:24 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I know I’m tough against the run.
136 Ark87 said at 11:25 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m practically immovable…or is it immobile, either or
137 Baloophi said at 11:25 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m a 2-gapper.
138 SteveH said at 11:25 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Gonna need to be tough against the runs, if you’ve been drinking like me during the draft.
139 Baloophi said at 11:27 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I had to be tough today, on account of laeagle and me “sampling” the beer list last night…
140 SteveH said at 11:28 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Samplers can become quite the misnomer when you get 8 of them.
141 Baloophi said at 11:29 PM on May 9th, 2014:
laeagle made the astute observation that the menu includes the alcoholic content value, which obviously leads to a literal pissing match…
142 SteveH said at 11:30 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Nobody wants to be the guy with the sissy 4% ABV.
143 Baloophi said at 11:35 PM on May 9th, 2014:
We actually saw one on there and mocked it… it was from Salt Lake.
144 anon said at 11:36 PM on May 9th, 2014:
it’s like doing shots for them.
145 SteveH said at 1:50 AM on May 10th, 2014:
4% is pretty reckless for them.
146 Dominik said at 11:31 PM on May 9th, 2014:
At least a good joke about that joke of a pick.
Reminds me of the story TLaw posted a few days ago. Reid wanted to trade up for a player in the 1st round. They got him anyway. The replacement pick if their target wouldn’t have been there was their second round pick.
Chip is a great football mind, obviously, but he, Howie and Gamble seem to be unable to read the other teams. They have to get better in opposition research next year.
147 Arby1 said at 11:36 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I have the same impression about picks 2 and 3. For 1, apparently there was someone wanting MSmith at top of 2. They are being aggressive and getting their guys early.
148 ztom6 said at 11:26 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Look I don’t care if Josh Huff was true value was a 4th rounder. It doesn’t mean you can fudge the difference in value. Look around at the other players picked in the 3rd and tell me most of them aren’t better players than Huff.
149 Charlie Kelly said at 12:07 AM on May 10th, 2014:
the players drafted before or after/ lol..
150 OregonDucker said at 11:28 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Josh Huff in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgl2wk1kxX8
151 Ark87 said at 11:29 PM on May 9th, 2014:
That guy says Josh Huff with incredible consistency.
152 anon said at 11:31 PM on May 9th, 2014:
highlights against VA? who cares.
153 Ark87 said at 11:31 PM on May 9th, 2014:
JOSH HUFF!
154 jackpotsdad said at 11:31 PM on May 9th, 2014:
I’m not a fan of the Huff pick but I’ll try to offer up a rationale for it.
1. Huff is an ascending player – he’s improved every year he’s been at Oregon. I used to hate seeing him on the field but I have to grudgingly admit that he has gotten better.
2. People seem to forget that the Eagles have Maclin on a 1 year contract. If he busts, then the Eagles are without options. If he has an incredible year, the Eagles may choose to let him go.
3. Huff offers KOR capabilities and should be better than Brad Smith.
4. Huff is willing to sacrifice his body – both in blocking, special teams and KORs
5. He is sure handed. I hate Huff’s route running, and I hate his lack of situational awareness, but he doesn’t do body catches, and excels in catching those beautiful over the shoulder catches that NFL players need to be able to master.
I’m an Oregon fan, but honestly, I wish the Eagles would’ve gone defense or offensive line with this pick. *sigh*
155 Insomniac said at 11:41 PM on May 9th, 2014:
So..we have the opposite of Avant? Oh that makes everything better.
156 Mitchell said at 11:41 PM on May 9th, 2014:
Our receiver core is better than last year, period.
157 Insomniac said at 11:41 PM on May 9th, 2014:
They haven’t played a down yet.
158 Mitchell said at 12:23 AM on May 10th, 2014:
No
159 planetx1971 said at 11:58 PM on May 9th, 2014:
IghWell so far I cannot help but feel this draft will end up as underwhelming, SADLY. We got a pass rusher that I feel may develop to be good. Nothing more. Down the line. A couple of receivers that may combine to be average. Hoping so much to be wrong. On another note, the NFC west D’s are just getting sicker across the board. Ariz. Took a Safety that can lay the WOOD to go with Honey Badger & co. And the Rams add Badger lite in LMJ. I’m sure I’m missing some I’m SURE. Not sure who Seattle took but they’re sick anyway. Oh & I’m SURE Clowney & Watt will HATE having Nix tie up 2 defenders to free them up for their REIGN OF POTENTIAL TERROR. Sigh, could we please just snag one of those D’s over a game of Texas hold em’? So REALLY guys, HONESTLY NOW, does anyone have our 1st 3 red’s graded higher than a C or C-? Love to hear why if you do. Might help cheer me up! I REALLY expected to come away thrilled from this draft.
160 anon said at 12:02 AM on May 10th, 2014:
hope we don’t pass the ball against tx, our line won’t last 2.5 seconds
161 Charlie Kelly said at 12:04 AM on May 10th, 2014:
what? we have THE best OL in the NFL.
162 D3FB said at 12:05 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Their QB is Case Keenum. I’m not terribly worried.
163 anon said at 12:06 AM on May 10th, 2014:
i’m more worried about our qb. but forgot about that, they can finish running foster into the ground
164 Charlie Kelly said at 12:14 AM on May 10th, 2014:
worried about our QB? you crazy. Foles, chip kelly offense, lesean… best OL in NFL.. texans better be scared
165 anon said at 12:15 AM on May 10th, 2014:
If Clowney is what he looks like, plus watt, plus nix, plus their LBs, plus their DC who won 3 SBs? Thier secondary is terrible, but that pass rush is crazy.
166 Charlie Kelly said at 12:19 AM on May 10th, 2014:
and we have a great OL and great offensive scheme that can slow the pass rush.
167 anon said at 12:23 AM on May 10th, 2014:
great run blocking not great pass blocking, but ok.
168 Charlie Kelly said at 12:27 AM on May 10th, 2014:
they wont know when we are throwing it or running it… we gonna gas them out too!!!
169 Insomniac said at 12:13 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m sure the 2001 Giants said the same thing about Trent Dilfer.
What are your thoughts on the draft so far?
170 D3FB said at 12:45 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I like it. Solid picks. Lattimer and Matthews were pretty equal to me so that was fine. I thought Huff could go as early as the third so I didn’t mind him. The other guys I wanted at 86 were Daquan Jones, Desir, Gaines, or Ka’deem. All but Gaines are still on the board. Little annoyed that OL is so depleted, there are only a handful of remaining guy I like and none of them project to be more than great backups who you let compete for a starting job.
I don’t understand the crying about picking WR instead of defense. We didn’t really miss out on any exceptional defensive players. We now have a very good WR corps. We have a great young pass rusher that I coveted. I’d give it a B+.
171 livingonapear said at 4:39 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Not high on Yankey? He seems like he has the athleticism to play guard on our line. We could get younger there.
172 D3FB said at 9:31 AM on May 10th, 2014:
No Yankey is exclusively a power, gap scheme player. Doesn’t translate to our zone scheme well.
173 baxter322 said at 12:30 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I have an A- or B+ so far with 5 picks to go
174 anon said at 12:38 AM on May 10th, 2014:
are you a teacher? would love to be in your class.
175 Charlie Kelly said at 12:08 AM on May 10th, 2014:
funny part is i been saying 2 WRs and OLB in the 1st 3 rounds is what i wanted all along.. so im content.
176 SteveH said at 12:12 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Chip Kelly was consulting your forum posts when he was trying to figure out what he wanted to do.
177 the midatlantic said at 12:09 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Worried right now. Don’t know why we’d take a role player WR before a DB or a DL. Something odd is going on.
178 SteveH said at 12:10 AM on May 10th, 2014:
IT’S A CONSPIRACY! CHIP KELLY IS A COWBOYS PLANT SENT TO TAKE US DOWN FROM THE INSIDE!
179 the midatlantic said at 12:16 AM on May 10th, 2014:
agreed
180 Charlie Kelly said at 12:15 AM on May 10th, 2014:
you mean before a role player DB and a DL role player… lol
we have a young QB and offensive genius head coach to invest in.. and he got what he wanted to get.. dont worry.. be happy.
181 the midatlantic said at 12:16 AM on May 10th, 2014:
agreed too
182 47_Ronin said at 12:23 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Actually the Eagles need more role players on D, esp more DL depth.
183 Charlie Kelly said at 12:26 AM on May 10th, 2014:
not really.. the DB room is full.. got plenty of role players.. we need to identify players that can develop into more then role players, esp on D
184 47_Ronin said at 12:36 AM on May 10th, 2014:
What?!?! If Bennie Logan goes down who’s stepping in for him? Or Barwin or Ryan’s? Eagles were very fortunate to not experience any significant injuries on D last season, but they do need more depth.
185 Charlie Kelly said at 12:39 AM on May 10th, 2014:
najee goode will step in at ILB…. dameon square at NT.. as for OLB.. that guy we drafted in the 1st round…
any more?
186 47_Ronin said at 12:47 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Really Damion Square? All of 4 tackles last season, I can’t take you seriously.
187 Charlie Kelly said at 12:48 AM on May 10th, 2014:
the eagles clearly like square. they totally passed on nix..
188 anon said at 12:48 AM on May 10th, 2014:
think it says more about nix than square
189 Charlie Kelly said at 12:49 AM on May 10th, 2014:
maybe, shows how they feel about that position some too
190 47_Ronin said at 12:17 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m getting the feeling of possibly another blown 3rd pick.
191 Insomniac said at 12:19 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Hey at least it’s not the second round this time.
192 phillychuck said at 12:15 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I’d love to see the Jets or the Jags decide they really want pick 101 and try to trade up with both their 4th round picks. either 4 and 15 or 5 and 14 in the round for that #1 pick.
193 Charlie Kelly said at 12:24 AM on May 10th, 2014:
tru.. that be cool
194 Christopher Miller said at 12:15 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Still feels like we need a pick or two…want to see us pick CB, ILB, OG, DT, S, and would still love to get DAT late. Personally hoping we slide back a little in 4th and get Dion Bailey next, then Jones or Tripp. Maybe moving Graham nets another pick.
195 Charlie Kelly said at 12:16 AM on May 10th, 2014:
u just want positions?? i want good players, they dont have to hit any one certin area at all…
196 Charlie Kelly said at 12:17 AM on May 10th, 2014:
but id be excited to get DAT!! not too late either.. cause he wont last.Dri is already gone.. and DAT is the better all around player.
197 mtn_green said at 12:17 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff is a tough motherf?cker. Returns kicks, plays ST. Matthews is tough too. They will block and fight for the ball. They will both make 53 and be on the field a lot. They can both do back shoulder catches. Huff has a pretty slick slant move, and really violently smashes the db on blocks.
Watch this:
http://draftbreakdown.com/video/josh-huff-vs-washington-2013/
198 phillychuck said at 12:17 AM on May 10th, 2014:
No more room for skill guys on the offense. Maybe a TE, but we do need a young guard to work behind Herremans.
A corner, A D-Tackle (DaQuan jones?), maybe another CB or an ILB.
199 Jason Feldmann said at 12:19 AM on May 10th, 2014:
In Chip I trust. So let’s see who we get tomorrow. Plenty of names still out there.
200 Charlie Kelly said at 12:20 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff in the up tempo no huddle is a perfect fit for those quick screens n what not…
201 Weapon Y said at 12:22 AM on May 10th, 2014:
After watching some film of Jordan Tripp, I really want the Eagles to draft him. He would be great to pair up with Kendricks. Very similar agility and explosiveness. He could rotate with DeMeco for his rookie year and become the full-time starter in 2015.
202 Insomniac said at 12:25 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Since I have nothing left to do but be a negadelphian
Allstar Rookie Team
QB: Teddy Bridgewater
RB: Carlos Hyde
RB2: Tre Mason
WR1: Sammy Watkins
WR2: Cody Latimer
WR3: Jarvis Landry
TE: Eric Ebron
TE2: Troy Niklas
LT: Jake Matthews
RT: Greg Robinson
LG: Xavier Su’a-Filo
RG: Zack Martin
C: Marcus Martin
LDE: Jadeveon Clowney
RDE: Jeremiah Attaochu
DT: Aaron Donald + Timmy Jernigan
MLB: CJ Mosley
SLB: KVN
WLB: Christian Jones
CB: Kyle Fuller
CB2: Darqueze Dennard
FS: Haha Clinton-Dix
SS: Lamarcus Joyner
203 Weapon Y said at 12:26 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Why doesn’t the All-Star rookie team use a 3-4 defense?
204 Insomniac said at 12:27 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Because I’m a 4-3 guy.
I’ll think of a 3-4 one in the mean time.
205 Weapon Y said at 12:28 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Ha. I’m only teasing. You’d just have to name a nose tackle and pick a linebacker to sub out, and that would do it.
206 47_Ronin said at 12:30 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Right off bat I’d have Kareem Martin at RDE over Attoachu.
207 anon said at 12:26 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Can someone please tell me the difference between huff and maelh?
208 Charlie Kelly said at 12:29 AM on May 10th, 2014:
really doe? step ya game up
209 anon said at 12:36 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Assume if you had an actual answer you’d have given it?
210 Charlie Kelly said at 12:38 AM on May 10th, 2014:
im assuming if u had an actual clue u wouldnt have needed to ask that question to begin with. step it up
211 anon said at 12:41 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I didn’t, but I think your answer told me what i need to know, thanks.
212 Mitchell said at 12:30 AM on May 10th, 2014:
You’re here *shows a random level with hand*, and I need to you here *raises hand to a considerably higher level*
213 anon said at 12:39 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff is way better? Seems a bit shorter, more stout. Think they have similar production numbers, Huff returns, Maehl does other stuff on ST. Huff is about .1s faster in the 40.
214 Charlie Kelly said at 12:53 AM on May 10th, 2014:
have you watched them play? huff is great after the catch. tough to bring down, has way better short area quickness then jeff.. relentless blocker.. thru out chipos time at oregon he has praised huff.
215 jesse said at 12:59 AM on May 10th, 2014:
You can’t judge players solely on measurables . Have to look at there on field production
216 Insomniac said at 12:59 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I haven’t watched any of Maelh’s tape but Huff is someone that still doesn’t make too sense for me.
His flaws
Decent RAC skills but gets caught easily
Smaller catch radius than a similar-sized guy in Jarvis Landry
Don’t think he’ll return kicks or play on the outside at the next level
Occasional lapses in focus and can whiff on blocks
217 OregonDucker said at 1:09 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff is a fighter, Maehl is a finesse guy. Huff is better by far. I just don’t like him because of past mistakes. But bear in mind I can’t see the difference between a duck or an eagle other than one floats. That is I have no idea what is best in the draft but will still give an opinion.
218 D3FB said at 12:27 AM on May 10th, 2014:
How about we stop thinking we know “where a player should be drafted”. Clearly no one does.
Juwan James
Dominique Easley
Weston Richburg
Paul Richardson
Trent Murphy
Justin Britt
Dezmen Southward
Christian Kirksey
Preston Brown
Jay Bromley
Spencer Long
Dexter McDougle
Khyri Thorton
Chris Watt
John Brown
Brandon Linder
Crocket Gilmore
Richard Rodgers
“Marcus Smith”
“Josh Huff”
That list of players is only players who were drafted way further ahead than where they were projected to go. Looking at media projections isn’t a great barometer for players “value”
219 Charlie Kelly said at 12:28 AM on May 10th, 2014:
too bad we cant look at teams draft boards…
220 anon said at 12:29 AM on May 10th, 2014:
in a deep draft noone knows what to do in the first round
221 Insomniac said at 12:33 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I don’t like your facts. Please stop using them since my blood pressure is too high to speak sense to.
222 jesse said at 12:42 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Now you sound like my ex never let something like facts or logic get in the way of a perfectly good argument
223 Mac said at 12:49 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Here’s what I love about our draft so far… no one knew what the Eagles were doing in spite of it being so “obvious” what they had to do.
Also, I think people in general under value the fact that a team can’t “just trade up” in a later round to get their guy (or trade down to that spot for that matter). They have to actually find a willing trade partner.
224 OregonDucker said at 1:11 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Your facts hurt my head. Please stop!
225 Mac said at 1:13 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Also, when asked the value of anything the proper answer is… whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
226 livingonapear said at 4:33 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Grass is always greener, right?
The ESPN draft grader basically said “I have no clue why they picked Paul Richardson where they did, but it’s Pete Carroll soooooo….thumbs up!”
227 D3FB said at 9:32 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m probably higher on Justin Britt than any other draftnik type. Thought the kid had great feet and could be an excellent ZBS lineman if he added some strength. Even I only had a fourth round grade on him.
228 Mitchell said at 12:31 AM on May 10th, 2014:
We didn’t get Will Clarke, obviously this draft is a fail.
229 Charlie Kelly said at 12:34 AM on May 10th, 2014:
oooohhh snap… i forgot thsi WR was still available.. im betting the eagles draft rutgers WR brandon Coleman tomorrow.
Chip said at the huff PC they could still draft another WR
230 anon said at 12:37 AM on May 10th, 2014:
is PC on TV or PE.com? For us out-of-state fans.
231 Insomniac said at 12:38 AM on May 10th, 2014:
There’s always the VODs of it on PE.com
232 Charlie Kelly said at 12:43 AM on May 10th, 2014:
im sure its on eagles website, i watched it live on there
233 jesse said at 12:36 AM on May 10th, 2014:
I don’t see the problem here you have addressed two team needs have two starters of of the picks the third being a quality ST and our in a spot to pick up your third starter in this draft first pick tomorrow with Desir. You then have picked up 3 starters in a draft that we had poor position and few picks . Then with late 4th take a chance on Christian Jones if still available perhaps can trade BG for another 5th or 6th then pick up some depth at OL and or DL and DAT with seventh. Seems like a decent B B + draft if that could all happen
234 OKC Eagles said at 4:22 AM on May 10th, 2014:
All you people moaning & groaning about this pick need to relax. This draft has been so unpredictable anything could’ve happened. Better to be safe than sorry. They learned that when Green Bay took HaHa Clinton Dix right before they did.
Hell .. They could’ve possibly been trying to trade down again. That’s how some things work. Just like the Marcus Smith pick. I actually liked the pick. Sure it was a little bit of a reach.. but again; Better to be safe than sorry. If you got your eyes on a player. You have to do what you have to do to get him.
If they wouldn’t have gotten Josh Huff with the #86th pick who else would they’ve grabbed? Donte Moncrief? He’s inconsistent. Phillip Gaines isn’t the size Chip wants his corners. Basically he wants a “Richard Sherman”.
Here’s what I’m thinking will happen:
4th Round 1st pick: Either Keith McGill or Pierre Desir.
4th Round ***: Telvin Smith ( He’s a LB/S hybrid. Could become full time S)
(***if the Eagles can trade Brandon Graham for a 4th round pick)
5th Round 1st pick: If the above trade doesn’t happen Dontae Johnson could convert to a Safety.
5th Round 22nd pick: Whichever decent ILB is left. (or Daniel McCullers)
7th Round 22nd pick: Taylor Hart
235 ztom6 said at 8:24 AM on May 10th, 2014:
Personally I was pounding the table for Trai Turner.