Taylor Hart is the Early 5th Rd Pick

Posted: May 10th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 307 Comments »

The Eagles have a pair of 5th round picks. They opened things by taking DL Taylor Hart. I love this pick.

Hart is 6-6, 281. He can play DT in the 4-man line or DE in the 3-man line. I’ll need to study more tape on him to see if he could handle NT in the NFL. Hart is fun to watch because he squats into this odd 4-point stance. He then uses his hands to battle blockers. Hart is athletic enough to shoot gaps and make plays in the backfield. He’s strong enough to be an effective 2-gap defender. He also has a great motor for an inside guy and does an excellent job of pursuing plays from the backside.

The Eagles needed depth on the DL. Hart will battle Joe Kruger for a backup DE spot.

Yes, Hart is an Oregon guy, but this kid is a good football player. He fits the scheme and is very good value at this point. Excellent pick.

307 Comments on “Taylor Hart is the Early 5th Rd Pick”

1 Nailed it! said at 2:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Welp, I like it. You know what they say about birds of a feather…
2 ICDogg said at 2:19 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I like to joke about it, but I see no problem with Chip taking guys he is very familiar with.
3 anon said at 2:22 PM on May 10th, 2014:
takes some of the guess work out of it.
4 Stevo said at 2:22 PM on May 10th, 2014:
It makes “projecting” a player pretty easy. Think that alone adds a lot of value. Jimmy Johnson also took that approach and it worked out ok for him.
5 GEAGLE said at 2:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m way more comfortable with him picking ducks now that he has had a year to see what works and doesn’t work at the NFL level. He now knows for sure what it takes on this level, and he knows ducks better than anyone…so when he deems one worthy of a draft pick, I find that extremely exciting!!
6 Anders said at 2:29 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I really wanted Jordan at 4th and Kiko in the 3rd round last year and this year I really wanted Hart and Mitchell
7 GEAGLE said at 2:37 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Lol I wanted Dion and thought we could get Long in round 2 and Kiko in round 3…pipe dream that turned out to be…
..
I want Hart,Mitchell, Lyerla, Lokombo(UDFA), I’m ok with huff….and wouldn’t mind Avery Patterson going Undrafted…..if we believe in Chip as a coach, why wouldn’t we believe in guys he believes in and has developed already…
8 Baloophi said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I agree. But yes, I will be loading up on joke attempts… it’s a fertile area!
9 Baloophi said at 2:20 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Here was my trained scout’s take on Hart’s stance:
“Taylor Hart really sits back in his three point stance. He looks like a catcher going through the signs, or my dog expecting a treat, or a guy trying to use an airport toilet without contacting the seat…”
10 OregonDucker said at 2:22 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Azz always liked Hart at Oregon. Guess who is coaching Hart at Eagles?
11 Nailed it! said at 2:22 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I wanted Telvin Smith, but he gone…
12 Anders said at 2:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I really like the 3 defensive players we added. All 3 are longer versatile and tough players.
13 Sb2bowl said at 2:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Agreed– also, they aren’t being counted on to produce significant snaps this year (barring catastrophies of course)— spot duty, get stronger, learn the scheme and produce full time year 2. Big fan of letting rookies learn from vet’s at first, then compete for starting spots year 2
14 pjxii said at 2:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Quack, Eagles, Quack-
On the Road to Victory!
15 Ark87 said at 2:25 PM on May 10th, 2014:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93iLTn0BpBc
16 Baloophi said at 2:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
@ Ark87
I saw your “Mighty Ducks” VCR post from the last post. Very nice.
17 kevinlied said at 2:25 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I have no problem with any of the eagles’ picks so far; I’ll defer to the more informed, but they all seem to be good players and good fits in the system and culture. That said, I’m concerned that they haven’t added an OL yet. That unit had irreplicably good health last season, and there’s not great depth. I’m all for BPA (or picking from the tier or whatever) but I’d be willing to force things a little with the next pick if there’s a versatile OL left who fits the system.
18 Sb2bowl said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Have been thinking about that as well– thinking maybe they are comfortable with what we have “in house” right now, guys might be developing behind the scenes and the coaches are satisfied with their progress? Can always add UDFA, FA’s, trades are possible still, and other teams’ cuts as the offseason goes along. At least that’s what I’m thinking.. ….(hoping?)
19 GEAGLE said at 2:25 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Very nice pick…but he can’t play NT…
…
Hart and Kruger will both make roster, but compete for which gets to dress as Thorntons backup(5tec)..Curry will backup Cox(3tec) and be a crucial part of our Nickle rotation, flying off the snap with Maaaaarcus daaaarling.
.so the DL roster is:
Thornton, hart,Kruger at 5tec
Cox and Curry at 3tec
Logan and the NT we get late(Deandre Coleman,Shemar or baeu Allen I guess)
…
7 DL, probably dress 6
…
Man we are building a nice Front!!!
20 OregonDucker said at 2:27 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Billy Davis and Chip know what they are doing in this draft. So happy to see emphasis on D rather than padding O. We all knew this needed to happen but things don’t always work out. Very happy today about draft.
21 Anders said at 2:29 PM on May 10th, 2014:
and we still added two recievers, which makes perfect sense consider how much 11 personal we played last year
22 OregonDucker said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Very good dedicated receivers at that. Guys who will work their asses off and do anything to win for Chip. Love it.
23 anon said at 2:31 PM on May 10th, 2014:
but do they have the talent to win in the nfl?
24 Anders said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I love Huff, he has some Randell Cobb to his game. He is a perfect slot WR for Kelly.
Im not a Matthews fan, but he do have the potential (I wouldnt have minded him in the 3rd)
25 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Lol how will teams and their 5’9 nickle CBs defend a 6’3 215lb WR In the slot? Lol
26 anon said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
don’t throw stones when living in a class house.
27 Anders said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
The Eagles 5’10 slot CB have showed he can cover 6’3 guys in the slot
28 GEAGLE said at 2:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
We talking about the best Nickle CB in the NFL aka the bOy KING!
29 Sb2bowl said at 2:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sure, but how many teams have a slot CB as good as Boykin(g)?
30 Jarock said at 2:27 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I just want them to replace Square in the rotation. He was a disaster wherever he lined up. I don’t care how great your technique is if you don’t have the lead in your pants to keep from getting blown off the ball on a regular basis.
31 Sb2bowl said at 2:47 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Was a rookie, can compete for a spot this year– we have upgraded the talent pool significantly this year
32 Anders said at 2:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Shemar or Coleman would be perfect backup NTs. Coleman has crazy long arms and big hands.
33 GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Yup, 6’5 310…Chip tried to recruit him..plays in the PAC… I have assumed we would draft him for month…fingers crossed.. Perfect 2gapper.. Many view him as a DE(5tec) so a little more mobile than typical overweight NT…like Logan, really long arms, and Frame to easily pack on more LBs….
34 Anders said at 2:31 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I think he is one of the few guys who can actually 2 gap already.
35 GEAGLE said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Absolutely…ideal two gapper. Makes too much sense for us…we better get him
36 Sb2bowl said at 2:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
As a NT? Any thoughts about using Cox as an emergency backup NT? (Just a question, looking for reasoning as to why or why not– not actually suggesting we do it)
37 ztom6 said at 2:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Like the players they’ve been getting today, but really surprised they haven’t tried at all to address OL.
38 Baloophi said at 2:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
If we really want to go all out taking Oregon players, we could take Josh Huff with one of our next two picks.
Oh wait…
39 Ark87 said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Who’s the Duck’s Kicker?
40 Baloophi said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I don’t care but we better trade up for him.
41 OregonDucker said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Duck’s have lousy kickers and I don’t believe one is in the draft. One cost us two PAC12 championships. Bums, all of them.
42 Ark87 said at 2:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Long snapper?
43 OregonDucker said at 2:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Long snapper in next year’s draft. Name escapes me but he is good.
44 Ark87 said at 2:35 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Now the Bryce Brown trade makes sense!
45 GEAGLE said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Haha can’t wait to talk shit to Dorenbos on twitter 🙂 your days are numbered magic man…. I asked him if it was true that he makes Amish mafia gang signs after made field goals, he laughed and said it was classified intell.. Cool dude
46 anon said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
no wonder ck didn’t fire henery
47 Baloophi said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Probably a webbed foot issue…
48 Baloophi said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Just grabbed another shot of Howie from the webcam in the Eagles war room…
49 ACViking said at 2:36 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Is Roseman the creator of Wally Gator?
50 Baloophi said at 2:36 PM on May 10th, 2014:
That’s DAT flying away to KC…
51 Ark87 said at 2:37 PM on May 10th, 2014:
so epic
52 Baloophi said at 2:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
God… I hated that dog. Laughing maniacally as I missed everything.
53 anon said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
why cant i see photos?
54 Ark87 said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
refresh
55 anon said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
thanks
56 Baloophi said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
worth it, huh?
57 anon said at 2:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
yup
58 Mitchell said at 2:30 PM on May 10th, 2014:
For those concerned about oline depth: Geagle and I have talked about the Eagles may already feel good about the depth they currently have. We have Kelley and the other massive individual (Tobin?). The coaching staff probably feels good about what we have.
59 Jarock said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Not sure Tobin, Kelley, Vandervelde, or Barbre should be in your long term plan for your aging OL. Bamiro has upside, but man he looked raw last year.
60 livingonapear said at 2:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Only Tobin is up there in years, and he has limited tread on his tires. Everyone else is under 26. I like our depth, and while Billy Turner might have been nice, he’s raw like Bamiro.
61 Jack Bauer said at 3:52 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Tobin is 23 you’re thinking Barbre, he’ll be 30 by training camp
62 Sb2bowl said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Why? Yea he looked raw, but isn’t that what the season, and offseason are for with players in a similar situation?
63 suthrneagle said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Chip wanted Hart 1st in the 4th;Howie said he`d be there in the 5th
Good thing he listened. Shows Chip`s not the `I know it all`,and is able to defer when presented with informed ideas.
64 Anders said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Also shows Howie has a great fell for the draft
65 suthrneagle said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Has been for a couple of years running.
66 GEAGLE said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Ravens got bent urban great pick?..did Josh mauro get drafted yet?
67 anon said at 2:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
glad he learned after overdrafting huff
68 suthrneagle said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
This swow`s that Howie was also in favor of drafting Huff.
Sounds like this is a group effort all around,not with Chip only calling the shots.
69 GEAGLE said at 2:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I think not waiting til first pick in round 4 to draft Huff was our only mistake..BUT the kid Watkins we took with the first pick in round 4 IMO was worth a mid to early third round I pick…so I just pretend we took Watkins in the 3rd and Huff in the 4th and this draft is PERFECT!!
70 anon said at 2:47 PM on May 10th, 2014:
haha i think we could have traded completely out of 3 picked up another late pick, but whatever. think norwood and huff are similar guys.
71 Baloophi said at 2:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Right now would be a great time for a Brandon Graham trade announcement…
72 Joe Minx said at 2:35 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Seriously.
73 anon said at 2:36 PM on May 10th, 2014:
player for player trade maybe?
74 Baloophi said at 2:37 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Who would you like?
75 Jarock said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Dion Jordan??
76 Baloophi said at 2:39 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sure… does seem like that would happen after June 1 (correct?) when the cap hit is less nauseating for our flippered Floridian friends…
77 Jarock said at 2:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m sure that’s the holdup.
78 Sb2bowl said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
A 5th this year, or conditional next year? Would you take a 6th this year?
79 ACViking said at 2:51 PM on May 10th, 2014:
The Eagles should take a conditional 2017 pick.
The condition is Graham is still in the NFL somewhere.
80 Sb2bowl said at 2:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
If he is, we get a 1st? If not, they get Shah8?
81 Weapon Y said at 2:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Jordan Tripp please
82 ACViking said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
for a 6’3″ kid, his arms are nearly as short as the 5’11” Borland . . . who’s arms are shorter than mine. And I’m 5’7″
83 livingonapear said at 2:36 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I really like how smart he is. I’m watching him against Oregon St, and St invites him in the backfield on a couple of screens, and he does not bite. He feels that he’s being set up, drops and blows up the screen.
I noticed when looking at Marcus Smith that Smith sniffed out a PA outside zone read. He was the unblocked man, he stayed at home, looked off the rb, then charged at the QB and batted the pass down. It seems like we’re putting a premium on smart defenders in this draft.
84 anon said at 2:37 PM on May 10th, 2014:
there was a quote about smart players being able to play fast, forget who said that but he was an EAGLE.
85 ACViking said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
ILB Avery Wiliamson off the board to the Titans.
ILB Telvin Smith to the Jags.
Christian Jones must have tested off the charts.
Why do you think they call it dope?
86 GEAGLE said at 2:39 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Did the Pierre Louis kid from Boston College get drafted yet?
What about Tripp? Powell? Lokombo UDFA?
87 TommyLawlor said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
KPL is gone to JAX.
88 GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Thanks…damn it and they got Telvin smith..pigs having a good draft
89 Anders said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
KPL gone to Seahawks, Smith to the JAX
90 Sb2bowl said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Took my up vote away from Tommy, gave it to you instead
91 Baloophi said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I feel like this is what I’m told what an airline loses my bag…
92 Baloophi said at 2:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Spadaro really grilling Hart on the mothership:
“Did you have a favorite Oregon uniform?”
93 TommyLawlor said at 2:39 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Journalism 101
94 Ark87 said at 2:39 PM on May 10th, 2014:
You could hear the sweat in Hart’s voice
95 Baloophi said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I hope Merrill Reese isn’t supposed to be the “bad cop”…
96 Ark87 said at 2:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Totally trapped him into confessing his love for the “all black” uniform…mmm hmm, it was the black huh? Dave and his gotcha’ questions
http://media.katu.com/images/131017-pink-oregon-uniforms-660.jpg
97 Baloophi said at 2:45 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I believe that’s Donald Sterling’s least favorite uniform.
98 Ark87 said at 2:48 PM on May 10th, 2014:
You can practice in it, work out in it, but don’t wear it to the game, that’s just not classy.
99 GermanEagle said at 2:40 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I am starting to wonder if Christian Jones is going undrafted…
100 anon said at 2:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
7th rd. mettenberger isn’t getting drafted
101 GermanEagle said at 2:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
So you didn’t go today, bud?!
102 Baloophi said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
GermanEagle –
What would “Mettenberger” roughly translate to in Deutsch?
103 Sb2bowl said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
One who sells insurance, right?
104 GermanEagle said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sounds like a sausage to me.
105 anon said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
nope, didn’t think it was worth it after yesterday. Was going to go w/ my brother but he bailed, so i bailed.
106 GermanEagle said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I went to Ikea instead. lol
107 anon said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
hah meatballs alone are worth the trip
108 Baloophi said at 2:48 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Ikea is probably only slightly less frustrating than attending the draft… especially on a weekend.
109 Insomniac said at 2:47 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m still hoping we take him next lol
110 ACViking said at 2:48 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Some scouts had issues w/ Jones’s instincts.
That is, CJ had none for football.
T-law and Kempski like.
I don’t remember what D3FB said.
____________
I’m curious what Baloophi’s scouting report is on Christian Jones.
111 ACViking said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
NT . . .
Spadaro’s talking up D-Square. Says Sq’s added 20lbs
112 Jarock said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Unless he’s roid raging, I don’t see him as a viable player. Played on roller skates last season.
113 Ark87 said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Dave needs to be informed that Square didn’t get pancaked on a block, he got trucked
114 anon said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
yeah madden style. but if you can bounce back after that good character
115 Jarock said at 2:47 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sure, that’s why we all love Kurt Coleman, right? Oh wait.
116 Ark87 said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Give Kurt credit, he got the tackle
117 Sb2bowl said at 3:00 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Yup. Nnamdi would have cried, and pointed at T.Rich as he ran for a TD…..
118 Mitchell said at 2:42 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Jeffcoat is still available. Get that talent.
119 GermanEagle said at 2:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’d prefer Dufflecoat.
120 ACViking said at 2:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
During T-Hart presser, CKelly called Villanueva, “Villanova”.
121 Ark87 said at 2:44 PM on May 10th, 2014:
he said both lol, just to be safe!
122 suthrneagle said at 2:56 PM on May 10th, 2014:
he was translating for the english-only speaking audience
123 Mitchell said at 2:45 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Dion Bailey and Ladler are there as well. Dion used to play linebacker.
124 Insomniac said at 2:48 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Don’t think we have interest in those guys.
125 Mitchell said at 2:48 PM on May 10th, 2014:
But we might.
126 Insomniac said at 2:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Maybe as UDFAs
127 TommyLawlor said at 2:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sam’s dream might have to wait another year.
https://twitter.com/shlynch/status/465201004242169856
128 Anders said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
We can pick up Jordan Lynch in UDFA
129 ICDogg said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Maybe he’ll put together a Lynch mob
130 GEAGLE said at 2:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
We can’t make this pick…unless we will take Christian jones talent, I beg them to trade back and get more picks. We can’t not have a 6th round pick again!! Last year was unbearable….please,someone give us something for BG..we NEED MORE pics!!!
131 Sb2bowl said at 2:51 PM on May 10th, 2014:
What would you pick now? I’m okay if they take someone now, and wait for someone to drop for our 7th…..
132 GEAGLE said at 2:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
A LB..Powell, Jones, Tripp…but I really want a 6th to secure our NT Deandre Coleman
133 OregonDucker said at 2:51 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m worried….. Colt Lyerla is at bat. Ohh baby.
134 Ark87 said at 2:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Geagle would lose his mind if we picked Lyerla. He’d be sending fruit baskets to everyone in the front office.
135 GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
😉
..
NEED MORE PICKS!! Still need Lyerla,Deandre Coleman, ILB, Kevin Pamphile OL, Storm Johnson RB
136 Jarock said at 2:56 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Drafting Lyerla would undo all the positive feelings I’ve been having about this draft. Even when I think they’ve reached, they’ve reached for good citizens who can flat out play. Lyerla is a tool.
137 OregonDucker said at 2:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I honestly think we go NT or OL. Lyerla and Harris are now on the side of the road with their thumbs out.
138 Baloophi said at 2:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
“at bat” or “holding a bat”… ?
139 OregonDucker said at 2:54 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Holding funny looking pipe.
140 Baloophi said at 2:52 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Caller on the mothership: “Excited about the draft. Just had a kid the other day.”
#priorities
141 ICDogg said at 2:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He got his wife in the draft
142 Baloophi said at 2:54 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Hopefully not a reach…
143 Jarock said at 2:52 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’m thinking we pick up another Canadian guard. Come on, LDT. Welcome to Philly!
144 Baloophi said at 2:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Bienvenue!
145 ACViking said at 2:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Lions take Princeton DT Caraun Reid w/ a 5th.
Highest drafted Princeton player since the Redskins selected soccer-style kicker Charley Gogolak with a 1st Rd pick in 1966.
CGogolak is the brother of Pete Gogolak, not only the 1st soccer-style kicker in pro football history with Buffalo. But PG was also the first AFL player to jump to the NFL.
146 Baloophi said at 2:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
When does AC get his own History Channel show? Maybe he has to drive around the country “picking” football related memorabilia… that’s “hot” right now…
147 Ark87 said at 2:59 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I feel like it has to involve some absurdly dangerous blue-collar activity…tail gating?
148 Baloophi said at 3:00 PM on May 10th, 2014:
This is a good pitch. Maybe he takes his acquired wares to pre-game festivities and tries to sell them there…
149 mksp said at 2:56 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I don’t understand this comment from a BPA / Board perspective:
Zach Berman ‏@ZBerm 1m
Chip said Eagles wanted Hart in the 3rd, said Howie had sense of where players will go, “guaranteed” Chip that Hart will be available in 5th
150 Insomniac said at 2:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Confirmed Oregon bias. That Huff story about Chip nabbing him in the 3rd is also proof.
151 mksp said at 2:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
“Bias” is the wrong word.
Oregon is a successful program with good players that Chip knows well.
Not sure why you’re so bent of out shape about a single pick possibly being a reach in the 3rd. Watkins & Hart are great picks.
152 Insomniac said at 2:59 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Let me ask you..how many modern Oregon players have succeeded at the next level compared to the number drafted?
153 suthrneagle said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
add two more to the list
154 Anders said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Consider hardly any have been drafted super high, I will say Kiko, Kyle Long, Byrd, Chung for a few seasons, Thurmond.
155 Anders said at 3:02 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Forgot to add Stewart when he is healthy and Blount has been in the NFL longer than average.
156 ztom6 said at 3:03 PM on May 10th, 2014:
lamichael james ain’t bad either
157 Anders said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
true, he has been a good returner, not sure why the Niners drafted him consider he do not fit their running scheme
158 Insomniac said at 3:03 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I was going to say just Byrd, Ngata and maybe Ward. Stewert and Blount have some arguments.
159 Anders said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Ngata was before Kelly.
160 Insomniac said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Still went to Oregon though.
161 Anders said at 3:07 PM on May 10th, 2014:
yea but Ngata was way before Oregon was a good team.
162 anon said at 2:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Chip has a high value on guys — higher than other people in the league obviously. I think that’s why we had day 1 and two overdrafts. If we used a third on Hart i would have had a heart-attack
163 Insomniac said at 2:59 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I might be more happier with drafts in 2 years since Chip won’t have any inside sources at Oregon.
164 ztom6 said at 2:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
sounds like they had 3rd round grade, but other players also with 3rd round or higher grade (including Huff apparently) and Howie felt Hart would drop.
165 Baloophi said at 2:56 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I have no idea who the Packers are going to take, but I know I’m going to wish we had gotten him. Jerks.
166 Baloophi said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Maybe not!
167 GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Cardinals just took Ed Stinson…GB next, then our turn…PLEASE TRADE BACK!! Need more picks
168 oreofestar said at 2:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
kinda hard to trade back at this time in the draft not as many players teams wann go up ad get
169 ACViking said at 2:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Not to pile on . . . but I’d bet about now that Christian Jones is getting stoned.
I’m sorry. But that’s my informed opinion.
170 anon said at 2:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I would be together with Mettinberger and Gordon and Blackmon, damage is done.
171 ACViking said at 3:00 PM on May 10th, 2014:
exactly
172 ICDogg said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Bad draft for the Eagles. Chip Kelly is just like Andy. He thinks he knows football better than we all do.— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) May 10, 2014
173 HipDaDip said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
OGs available?
174 ACViking said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Had Lamin Barrow — ILB from LSU who wore No. 18 last year — lasted 6 more spots, he’d have been an Eagle.
175 Ark87 said at 3:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
On the clock! Predictions?
176 ICDogg said at 3:02 PM on May 10th, 2014:
someone I never heard of
177 OregonDucker said at 3:02 PM on May 10th, 2014:
NT=Coleman
178 Sb2bowl said at 3:03 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Trade up to the 3rd round?
179 Baloophi said at 3:02 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Take Huff again! Make it right!
180 Ark87 said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
The doubledown! They said he should have been picked later. Chip’s a man of the people.
181 Baloophi said at 3:10 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Let them eat crow!
182 CampDracula said at 3:03 PM on May 10th, 2014:
What Ducks are left?
183 OregonDucker said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Terrance Mitchell-CB, Colt – Drug tester
184 Baloophi said at 3:03 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Shamar Stephen still available? Too high for him?
185 ICDogg said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
pick is in… Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
186 Baloophi said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Ed Reynolds – S – Stanford
187 Sb2bowl said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
How is he? Stats?
188 Baloophi said at 3:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Someone on here is hot on him… D3FB? Insomniac?
189 Insomniac said at 3:06 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I liked him but he’s inconsistent. He has upside and athleticism. Ran in the low 4.4s at his pro day.
190 Baloophi said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Gotcha! In the recesses of my mind I knew you liked him!
191 Anders said at 3:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Solid FS
192 Ark87 said at 3:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
doesn’t matter, quality name
193 Baloophi said at 3:04 PM on May 10th, 2014:
When he tackles we can call it the Reynolds Wrap. So we’ve got that.
194 Mac said at 3:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Is he a wrap up tackler?
195 Insomniac said at 3:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I like Reynolds. He reminds me of Nate Allen a bit pre-injury that is.
196 GEAGLE said at 3:06 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Same
197 Dominik said at 3:09 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Things I don’t want to read about a draft prospect: he reminds me of Nate Allen.
198 GEAGLE said at 3:06 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I get y we took Reynolds. Really good value in 5th, but we had way bigger needs than safety…and we really needed to trade back
199 Anders said at 3:06 PM on May 10th, 2014:
We have 1 sure player at safety.
200 Jarock said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I actually think Nate was ok by the end of last season. Wolf has potential, but he’s not there yet. I’m all for bringing some competition.
201 GEAGLE said at 3:10 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I like Jenkins and Wolff…doubt Reynolds will take their spots..he will battle with Nate, because I think Maragos is a lock for ST as our Colt Anderson 5th safety…Watkins can even play some…..I don’t not like Reynolds, I’m surprised he made it out of 3rd or 4th…just thought it was important to trade back
202 Alistair Middlemiss said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Its late 5th round, you do needs at this stage just BPA
203 Baloophi said at 3:09 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Good gravy what a great handle!
204 GEAGLE said at 3:12 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Really didn’t want to pick anyone…wanted to trade back..,and I’d rather have spot smoking Christian jones..but I view Reynolds as a 3rd or 4th rd pick so it’s good value for sure.l.i just really wanted to trade back
205 Mitchell said at 3:07 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He was projected in the 2nd round 2 months ago. Good value, good pick.
206 Jarock said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Wait, good value?? The Eagles can’t have picked him then!
207 Baloophi said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
These are what they are, but here it is…
208 Ark87 said at 3:14 PM on May 10th, 2014:
found a pic of Ed, http://cdn.prettybirdus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/7BurgerKing_TinyHands-256×256.jpg
209 Baloophi said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
So he’s basically running around with nubs out there, huh?
210 Ark87 said at 3:17 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Might as well tape them into clubs….are pirate hooks legal?
211 Chip Kelly's bastard son said at 3:17 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Priceless
212 Insomniac said at 3:20 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He has pretty good hands. He wouldn’t have had 6 picks in 2012 if he didn’t.
213 Jernst said at 3:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Ew
214 Ark87 said at 3:08 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Heard he really wraps things up, clings.
http://confessionsofacouponclipper.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/mg_4786.jpg
215 Mitchell said at 3:10 PM on May 10th, 2014:
we have literally addressed every level of defense except for ILB. I guess that’s why the 7th round it for. Maybe Jones lasts till then. There are still gonna be a ton of good UDFA in this draft.
216 GEAGLE said at 3:13 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Biseko Lokombo? Skov? As UDFAs.
217 Jarock said at 3:13 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I’d take Skov as a UDFA. He’s gotta prove he’s healthy.
218 Baloophi said at 3:14 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Skov is really tough to place… I could see him getting chosen at any pick from here on out…
219 Anders said at 3:10 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Aaron Murray is a great fit in KC.
220 Baloophi said at 3:12 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Chip’s getting feisty with the press…
221 Baloophi said at 3:12 PM on May 10th, 2014:
“Chippy” – duh. Fail.
222 GermanEagle said at 3:14 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Maybe Eagles think that Demeco has another London Fletcher in him…?!
223 Jarock said at 3:15 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Unfortunately, Demeco was resembling Fletcher by the end of the season. The current Fletcher that is, not the one from three years ago.
224 Baloophi said at 3:15 PM on May 10th, 2014:
What DeMeco does on his own time is his own business.
225 GermanEagle said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Chippah begs to differ.
226 Anders said at 3:15 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I know the coaches are very high on Goode and Knott
227 GEAGLE said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Chip specifically mentioned needing ILB depth tho…but I like both those kids
228 GEAGLE said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I think he will be here two more years, while gradually getting less and less snaps
229 ACViking said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
The Eagles has selected 3 PAC-12 players.
Graduation for Oregon and Stanford is mid-June.
That means Huff, Hart, and Reynolds will miss all MTAs — just like Ertz last year.
230 ACViking said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
hurts Huff and Hart less than Reynolds, I’m guessing.
231 Anders said at 3:18 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Reynolds is a senior so might have graduated already
232 Baloophi said at 3:18 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Not a junior?
233 Anders said at 3:20 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Senior
234 Baloophi said at 3:25 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Okay… confusing because he declared for the draft – I think he had another year of eligibility for whatever reason… injury?
He’s listed as a junior on some sites (CBS).
235 Insomniac said at 3:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Had an ACL injury in 2011 so that might be it?
236 Baloophi said at 3:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Must be. I read “4th year junior” somewhere… I just don’t understand the official redshirt designations…
Anyway, he’s ours now!
237 Baloophi said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I believe Hart has already graduated…
238 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Was reading somewhere that all have graduated already?!
239 Alistair Middlemiss said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff and Hart have already graduated, so can attend
240 Baloophi said at 3:17 PM on May 10th, 2014:
And Reynolds is a junior…?
241 ACViking said at 3:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
ER’s a rJr.
Had a redshirt-injury season.
But according to his bio, he’s a few credit shorts of graduating.
242 Baloophi said at 3:36 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Found an article listing “gut classes” for athletes at Stanford. Let’s get this done!
DRAMA 103: Beginning Improvising (3 credits)
DANCE 156: Social Dances of North America III (1 credit)
PSYCH 125: Beyond Stereotype Threat (3 credits)
PSYCH 135: Sleep & Dreams (3 credits)
DRAMA 20: Acting For Non-Majors (1-3 credits)
SOC 120: Interpersonal Relations (5 credits)
ENGINEER 103: Public Speaking (3 credits)
CEE 64: Air Pollution (3 credits)
MS&E 47 : Financial Literacy (1 credit)
CS 547: Human-Computer Interaction Seminar (1 credit)
ATHLETIC 187: Analysis of Human Movement (2-4 credits)
POLI SCI 2: Intro to American National Government (5 credits)
http://www.businessinsider.com/stanford-list-of-easy-classes-for-athletes-2011-3
243 Nailed it! said at 3:20 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Huff, Hart already graduated I believe!
244 ACViking said at 3:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Question:
Is that an exception to the (stupid) rule regarding players from schools that haven’t held graduation.
I’d think so.
But I’m not sure. (Should have said this earlier.)
Thanks for making this point.
245 ICDogg said at 3:16 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Didn’t realize he was the son of the other Ed Reynolds, former Giant and Pat.
246 OregonDucker said at 3:20 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Patriots 1983 – 1991
Giants 1992
247 Bob Brewer said at 3:17 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Kicker in round 7.
248 Jarock said at 3:21 PM on May 10th, 2014:
AJ “I’m to good for the senior bowl” McCarron goes deep in the fifth round to the Bengals. Karma.
249 OregonDucker said at 3:22 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He’s not a leader in the locker room or the field according to some reports.
250 Baloophi said at 3:31 PM on May 10th, 2014:
This should play well in the locker room, though:
251 Insomniac said at 3:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Cincy likes mediocre QBs so much that they need two of them.
252 Insomniac said at 3:21 PM on May 10th, 2014:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC08ByFV5Jw
253 Baloophi said at 3:29 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He catches passes thrown right at him so he’s an automatic Chung upgrade…
254 Insomniac said at 3:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He jumps some routes which I like. He’s what Kurt Coleman would be if he was bigger, faster, and smarter.
255 anon said at 3:21 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Eagles selected Stanford S Ed Reynolds with the No. 162 overall pick in the 2014 NFL draft.
Reynolds (6-foot-1, 207) earned first-team All-Pac 12 honors as a
redshirt sophomore and junior before turning pro, finishing his career
with seven interceptions. He played free safety for the Cardinal.
Reynolds ran 4.57 at the Combine with a 32 1/2-inch vertical and
9-foot-9 broad jump. Reynolds is not an overly athletic or physical
safety, has very little experience in man coverage and missed too many
tackles in college. Despite his decorated résumé, Reynolds will likely
max out as a third safety/special teamer in the pros.
256 ACViking said at 3:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Back-to-back 5th Rd safeties.
Both guys can lay the wood.
I think this guy’s gonna be a pleasant surprise — even missing MTAs
257 anon said at 3:29 PM on May 10th, 2014:
good instincts, we can teach him how to tackle.
258 Insomniac said at 3:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Depends on who you ask. Rob Rang thinks the opposite.
STRENGTHS: At 6-2, 205 pounds, Reynolds possesses the lanky build scouts are looking for at the position. Physical and instinctive. Demonstrates good agility and acceleration to handle covering athletic tight ends out of the slot as well as supply deep help over the top. Reads the action and moves fluidly, showing a nice late burst to close on the ball and terrific vision and open-field running ability once he possesses it. Understands his role as the last line of defense and generally takes excellent angles in pursuit.
Force in run defense. Savvy defender and reliable open-field tackler. Breaks down well in space and delivers a pop on contact, often driving ballcarriers back.
WEAKNESSES: Missed 2011 season due to knee injury (ACL). Aggressive nature can be used against him at times, getting burned on occasion by cut-back runs from quicker ballcarriers. Ejected from one game in 2013 for targeting, displaying bad habit of leading with his helmet, which will draw personal fouls in the NFL.
Only one highly-productive season in terms of creating turnovers while playing on a defense with dominating front seven, and must prove he can make impact plays on consistent basis.
259 mksp said at 3:24 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Saints got Ronald Powell.
260 ACViking said at 3:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Re: Jaylen Watkins
Meant to say last post . . . JW is earmarked for the slot.
The Eagles will not pay Boykin starter-money. JW’s the insurance.
261 ACViking said at 3:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Sorry if I’m repeating another’s comment
262 Anders said at 3:33 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Why wouldnt they pay him starter money consider they keep saying the slot is a starting position?
263 Jarock said at 3:34 PM on May 10th, 2014:
For that matter, what’s the incentive for Boykins to stay with the Eagles if they won’t pay him or let him play outside because he’s 2in too short by their standards?
264 Cafone said at 3:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Super Bowls!
265 anon said at 3:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
wow, comp pick!
266 Jarock said at 3:32 PM on May 10th, 2014:
I know Boykin’s doesn’t fit the Eagles master mold for outside corners, but @ some point, doesn’t talent outweigh preconceptions?? Flat out best cover corner on the team, and it isn’t close.
267 ACViking said at 3:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
He’s a slot corner.
Will the Eagles pay outside-starting CB money to a slot corner.
That’s all I’m wondering.
The answer may be “yes.” I haven’t a clue.
Just projecting that JW’s the possible successor if things go south with BB
268 anon said at 4:07 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Think it’s if they value the position. He seems very concerned with how guys like Welker can hurt you.
269 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Boykin will get paid..when it’s time to pay him we cut our vets and pay rookie contracts to the outside,CBs….
..
We look at it as how much we are allocating to a certain position. If you paying cheap rookie contracts to your outside CBs, doesn’t matter if you have an expensive slot…
270 ACViking said at 3:56 PM on May 10th, 2014:
JW’s a small 5’11.
He’s not what Kelly’s said he wants outside.
You banking on CBs in next year’s draft?
Maybe Fletcher gets extended, too, if he stays healthy
271 Nailed it! said at 3:26 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Kelly: Jordan Matthews broke down 4 of Eagles' games on film, came to official visit with notes, questions for coaches.— Sheil Kapadia (@SheilKapadia) May 10, 2014
Love this kid!
272 anon said at 3:27 PM on May 10th, 2014:
wow
273 OregonDucker said at 3:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
That’s a Chip guy!!!
274 ACViking said at 3:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
No one watches more film than T-Law.
So, regarding Matthews, can he play?
______________
I don’t think there’s a higher-character, more motivated player in this draft that J-Matt.
If he’s not very, very good, it won’t be for lack of preparation, commitment, and effort.
Plus, I’ll wager he’s lucky . . . in the Branch Rickey-sort of way.
Luck being the residue of design. And Matthews does everything to put himself in the best position he can.
275 Joe Minx said at 3:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Love it.
276 Jarock said at 3:29 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Welcome to the Eagles, Mr. Matthews. You’ll fit right in here.
277 mksp said at 3:28 PM on May 10th, 2014:
And there goes Jordan Tripp.
278 George Leeds said at 3:37 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Rank these attributes as Chip would:
Hard working
High football aptitude
Size
Good Teammate/Culture fit
Versatility
Time’s yours…
279 Baloophi said at 3:38 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Let’s add “Attended Oregon” to the list, too… for fun.
280 Nailed it! said at 3:39 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Or we can just add PAC 12? Either way I think it should be #1 or #2
281 Ark87 said at 3:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Can we add High-motor, just so people can pretend Chip *hates* high-motor players for contrast sake.
282 oreofestar said at 3:41 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Versatility,High football aptitude, Good teammate/culture fit, Harworking, size
283 Nailed it! said at 3:43 PM on May 10th, 2014:
BIG PEOPLE BEAT UP little people
284 ACViking said at 3:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
“Character” — teammate/hardworking/committed — may be first.
If a player doesn’t have “Kelly character,” I think he’s off the board — even if he’s as talented as Clowney. Especially if he’s as talented as Clowney.
Then “athletic,” including measurables.
then “football IQ”.
then versatile.
285 A Roy said at 3:50 PM on May 10th, 2014:
It[s a trick question. They’re all equally important. CK probably spider charts based on these.
286 CampDracula said at 3:57 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Character (hard working, good teammate, culture)
Versatility
Physical Attributes (size, strength, speed, etc.)
High football aptitude
287 mtn_green said at 4:12 PM on May 10th, 2014:
As they relate to availability. HUGE.
As they relate to learning and following technique. HUGE.
As they relate to work ethic. HUGE.
All the talent in the world means nothing if you don’t have heavy doses of character.
288 GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on May 10th, 2014:
When do we pick again? This sucks,,,trade BG please!! Need picks!!E
289 OregonDucker said at 3:46 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Looks like a BG trade is not happenning. Maybe for Dion Jordan trade plus picks after June 1.
290 GEAGLE said at 3:49 PM on May 10th, 2014:
BG is untradable….backup,first round salary, for a one year rental? Rather have the 7th round prospct on a cheap on year deal…sucks..hopefully we can keep him and let’s him leave in free agency
291 Nailed it! said at 3:45 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Over/under on long snapper 7th round? We have 0 depth there!!! Well maybe Celek, screw ILB depth I need more magic baby
292 Joe Minx said at 3:45 PM on May 10th, 2014:
TRADE BRANDON GRAHAM!
293 Jarock said at 3:47 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Need a 4-3 team with a 3-4 LB sitting around on the bench. Not going to get anyone who’s highly regarded though.
294 ACViking said at 3:51 PM on May 10th, 2014:
GEagle asked when the Eagle draft again.
They select 9th in Rd 7 (I believe, after swapping spots with the Bills as part of the blockbuster Bryce Brown deal).
______________
GE’s thrown down the gauntlet.
What time, eastern daylight, do the Eagles make their final choice (absent a trade).
I’m saying: 5:33 p.m.
295 GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on May 10th, 2014:
That’s our last pick right? Hope we get a quality UDFA group
..
Did Lyerla get drafted?
296 anon said at 3:54 PM on May 10th, 2014:
no
297 Jarock said at 3:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
and I really doubt he will be.
298 oreofestar said at 4:05 PM on May 10th, 2014:
No Lyerla is here
299 Nailed it! said at 3:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
5:41 PM
300 GEAGLE said at 3:51 PM on May 10th, 2014:
How many picks we have left? One in the 7th?
301 oreofestar said at 3:52 PM on May 10th, 2014:
yep that is it we already drafted 6 guys
302 GEAGLE said at 3:53 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Damn it…..NEED DEAndre COLEMAN
303 OregonDucker said at 4:55 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Yep, that’s the guy GE.
304 Jarock said at 3:58 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Anyone else think the Danny Watkins fiasco scared teams off from drafting Laurent Duvernay-Tardif?
305 Ark87 said at 3:59 PM on May 10th, 2014:
It’s the name
306 Jarock said at 4:00 PM on May 10th, 2014:
New article and discussion board up.
307 Ark87 said at 4:01 PM on May 10th, 2014:
Huh, Kapadia is on PE.com