Vinny Curry, Part 3

Posted: June 14th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 111 Comments »

Vinny Curry was supposed to be a perfect fit for the Wide 9, but Jim Washburn loved his veteran players and used Darryl Tapp instead of Curry for most of 2012. That was frustrating for Curry and most of Eagles Nation. No offense to Tapp, who is a hard-working vet, but Curry was bigger, faster and more talented.

Then came Chip Kelly, Bill Davis and the 3-4. I assumed Curry would be an OLB, but that didn’t happen. They had him play DE…in a 2-gap scheme. That’s like handing me a Whopper and asking me to ditch the bun and meat and just eat the lettuce, pickles, onions, and tomatoes. Crazy.

The results weren’t good early on. Curry didn’t do what he was supposed to. His instincts led him to take chances and try to make plays. That isn’t part of 2-gapping. His punishment was to be inactive for the first couple of regular season games. The coaches then put him on the field in pass rushing situations after that and Curry delivered solid results.

At times, Curry looked very disruptive as a Nickel DT. He was quick off the ball and able to pressure the QB. Those blockers who could handle his quickness shut Curry down.

Much to my surprise, Curry actually got better when used as a DE in the base defense. There were plays when he executed the 2-gap technique perfectly. This showed physical ability, but just as importantly…coachability. He was willing to listen and learn. Some players resist change and it can really hurt them.

Paul Domowitch wrote a good column on Curry recently.

The adjustment from an outside edge rusher to an inside rusher can be difficult. Instead of tackles, you’re frequently dealing with guards, whose girth gives them an advantage over you in short-area confrontations. You’re also not able to take advantage of your speed like you can when you line up on the outside.

Curry said he has spent a lot of time in the film room studying quicker interior pass-rushers, including ex-Eagles Cullen Jenkins and Mike Patterson. Curry’s burst was evident in that first sack against the Chiefs last year when Kansas City tried to slide its protection on a bootleg and he blew through the line between right tackle Eric Fisher and tight end Kevin Brock and dragged down Alex Smith for a 6-yard loss.

“You try to study what they did and how you can use what they did to help you,” he said. “Though there are some things you can’t do because you’re not 320, 330 pounds like them.”

Curry had 31 quarterback sacks, hits or hurries in only 228 pass-rush opportunities last season (13.6 percent), according to Pro Football Focus. That’s actually a higher percent than Cole (11.4 percent), who had a team-high eight sacks, Barwin (9.6) and Cox (8.9).

The Eagles’ pass rush needs to improve this season. They finished 21st in sacks last year with 37, and were 31st in sacks per pass play.

They are hoping Cole has at least one more double-digit sack run left in his 31-year-old body and they are hoping first-round pick Marcus Smith will have an immediate pass-rush impact.

A breakout year from Curry also would be helpful.

“This season, I want to be a factor,” he said. “Where it’s third-and-long and my teammates are like, ‘Let’s go, V. Here we go.’

“You want to be that guy that people can lean on. You want to be that teammate where when you come in, it’s like when [the New York Knicks'] J.R. Smith comes in. Because he’s like a sixth man of the year kind of thing. I just want to be that kind of guy for my team.

“I want to make people walk away from an Eagles game, first of all happy that we won, and second of all [saying], ‘Did you see that boy, Vinny? He was all over the field.’ You want that kind of buzz. That way, you know all your hard work is paying off.

“And people understand that this guy was picked in the second round for a reason.”

I sure hope Curry can take the next step. There will be better competition on the D-line this year. Joe Kruger, Taylor Hart and possibly Damion Square will battle Curry for 2 or 3 spots. Curry is a good role player, but needs to show he can be a consistently effective DE in the base offense.

Because Curry is a local product and grew up an Eagles fan, it would be all the sweeter for him to become a good Eagles player. The scheme doesn’t do him any favors, but the Eagles could be a team that plays with a lead much of the time and that could give Curry more chances to get after the QB. That is where he can really shine.

Keep your fingers crossed on Curry. It would be fun for him to make it and the Eagles must get better at rushing the passer.

* * * * *

Dave Spadaro did a recent interview with Chris Maragos.

There wasn’t anything groundbreaking, but it was interesting to listen to Maragos talk about a few things. He wants to be a leader, but also understands he is here primarily as a STer. He’ll speak up when he feels it is right, but will also lead by example in the sense of just working his butt off every day in practice. Young players can learn that STs are not to be taken lightly. They can give you a job in the NFL.

Maragos also talked about how his Super Bowl experience can help. He will emphasize to his teammates that sometimes it is the smallest of things that can lead to success in the postseason. Everyone must do their job on a given play.  A seemingly innocent breakdown on STs can prove to be disastrous.

Good stuff.

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  • GEAGLE

    Good stuff!!m actually don’t even think it matters if he ever develops as a two gapper, because Nickle interior pass rushers are rare as all hell and there is no pressure like pressure up the middle.. Most teams have edge rush specialist, to have an interior rusher to throw next to cox in our Nickle 4 man line is so darn valuable that even if he can’t two gap, I don’t think it will matter.. With that said, way too early to say he can’t grow into a two gapper.. I assume they moved him inside because he always used his hands really well, and is much stronger then given credit for… Dude benched more than everyone’s favorite player who Vinny should aspire to be, Justin Smith…

    I think Vinny is going to take off this year. I don’t know if it wil
    Be in the base defense but this league is all about 3rd down so he can be as valuable even if he is just a specialist, especially since Hart and Krugs project to be nice second wave of big long, two gapping DEs

    Anyone know why the boys are headed to Mississippi this weekend? Is Cox having a camp or something? Cool to see the young monsters on our front 7 all go away together(BG, COX and Curry) even cooler to see them manage to drag the ornery old man CDub. carry Williams along for the trip…
    ..
    Yesterday Herremans and Barwin came to support Kelce in rittenhouse square for the BBQ.. Nice to see our players are tight off the field. We came along way from paying dudes 50mil who used to eat alone in their car..

    Vinny is our secret weapon this year, but he won’t be secret for much longer

    • Jack Waggoner

      It’s nickel.

      • A_T_G

        Far be it from me to defend GEAGLE’s spelling, but he is probably okay on this one:

        “Q. I have a question about your entry for the word nickel. I noticed you list an alternate spelling as nickle; could you tell me about that spelling? Is it slang?
        A. Of nickle and nickel, the latter is the original spelling, the usual spelling, and, in the opinions of many people, the only correct spelling. Even so, nickle is common in casual writing and, in fact, not at all rare in edited prose. We have examples from the Boston Herald, Chicago Tribune, and the Reno (Nevada) Gazette-Journal.
        Nickle has been used in professional writing from around the country. It’s not a regional or slang spelling; it’s not limited to one sense of the word, and it’s not, as some believe, inherently wrong.”

        • A_T_G
          • GEAGLE

            Thumbs up….u left out the part about everytime I type a , autocorrect turns it into ! Nice contribution tho…valuable

          • Andy124

            Maybe you’re not, but I’ll bet FOles is.

          • A_T_G

            I understand the cause, but your Apple device learns. If you back up and change it back a few times it will learn.

        • Alex Karklins

          Sorry, no. “Nickle defense” is never the correct usage. Ever. It drives me crazy whenever I see this error. Do you have a more authoritative source than some random person’s blog post? “Nickle” can be a surname or a programming language, but “nickel” is the correct spelling when we’re talking about football defenses or American coinage.

      • GEAGLE

        Thumbs up!

  • Sokhar20

    I’ve still never understood how they decided that Brandon Graham and Trent Cole fit just fine at outside linebacker, but Curry should be relegated to defensive end.

    • GEAGLE

      I assume it’s because of his strength and really strong hand usage.. Have a little faith, our DL coach was with Vinny at Marshall… Every team can get edge rusher, get a pass rusher who can get pressure up the middle would be so valuable. I don’t think our coaches are dummies, so I suspect given time, Vinny will be just fine..
      .
      In addition to Maragos in studio with Spadaro, Nolan Carrol! Beau Allen and Cox were all guests of Spadaro this week…some good stuff. Especially the Nolan interview

      • Sokhar20

        We’ll see. I just don’t want Curry to end up like another Graham–a holdover from the last regime, and a perpetual square peg in a round hole.

        • GEAGLE

          Nooooo.. BG will be gone at the end of the year. Vinny still has a chance at a long term future here…alot of BG issue is the surgery robbed him of some of his ability, ATleast it seems,,, Vinny is healthy, and had to make a very difficult transition while also fighting inexperience,,, have a feeling he will be a happy surprise this year
          ..
          Very excited about this year for a bunch of our young defenders. Vinny, Cox, Logan,Boyking.Mykal, Wolff should all take another big step in their development as NFL players

    • Neil

      He came into that offseason at 280. I think he put that weight on without even trying to, like a REALLY late growth spurt. I would also bet there’s something about his lateral quickness they really don’t think would fit playing coverage, especially at that weight.

      • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

        no he put that weight on because he knew hed be a DE and NOT an OLB.

      • A_T_G

        I like that terminology. I’ve been fighting off a late growth spurt since my late 20s.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      Because his body can handle the weight required to play DE, he isnt a natural OLB at all.. cole is a guy who can lose weight and do some of that stuff, if cole was young he could learn to be a great OLB. graham is way smaller then vinny as well..

      • Sokhar20

        Newsflash: Graham ain’t a natural OLB either. :-P

        • GEAGLE

          News flash: that’s why this is BGs last year in philly :)

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          no shit… bt he certinly doesnt have the body for a 3-4 DE or DT.. lol.. that leaves him as a OLB. good talk.

    • D3FB

      Curry is a great in a short area, because he’s so twitchy, but he’s not a great athlete. He ran a 4.98.

      http://mockdraftable.com/player/66/

  • shah8

    I found this a compelling read. In today’s NFL, you just can’t get by with a mediocre DL, even if it’s just 2 or 3 guys with hands in the grass. This DL needs to *absorb attention* and blockers much better than it had last year, and the front seven needs to finish plays for sacks even though last year was better than the atrocious 2012 performance of pressures and no sacks.

  • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

    studying mike patterson pass rush moves?? You are telling me patterson actually had pass rush moves? lol.. love the guy, but not for pass rushing

    • GEAGLE

      Yeah I strongly suggest leaving the Mike Patt film alone and study Justin smith religiously

      • Anders

        Yea curry hope he can turn into Smith next season or he is most likely traded. I really hope curry can take the next step together with cox, that would be great for this defence

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah man, it would really be huge for us…

          • Anders

            If Curry could just grow into 80% Justin Smith, we could have 3 very good to great DEs in Thornton, Cox and Curry rotating and if one of Hart or Kruger comes around, that is 4 guys who can rotate and keep everybody fresh

          • GEAGLE

            True that! This is a huge year for VC. I already expect him to be a menace on 3rd down, but by December! it would be HUGE to see him develop into someone who has earned consistent snaps in our base

    • Anders

      Mike P was a monster pass rushing DT coming out of USC. It was JJ who turned him into a 320 pound 2 gapping DT.

  • Anders

    I know people love to hate the DTN pick in 2010, but

    http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2014/05/using-probabilistic-distributions-to_19.html

    He was a freak athlete coming out of college with good production at a good school. Should we really hate a flier on a freak athlete with good production in the 3rd round? I mean he had more of freakish combine than Clowney or Ziggy Ansah.

    • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

      true…… but….. who is DTN?

      • OldDocRoss

        Te’o Nesheim I guess.

        And obligatory “boo” to the trend of trying to make every player’s name an acronym.

        • A_T_G

          Your not a fan of initials, ODR?

          • OldDocRoss

            Haha, well played.

      • FairOaks

        Daniel Te’o-Nesheim. I don’t mind a flier, but a 3rd round pick is not a flier. Particularly when Navorro Bowman is still on the board. Might have worked out better than Keenan Clayton, who we took in the 4th, and DTN might have still been available at that spot. Many folks wanted Bowman if I recall (probably because of the Penn State connection, but still.)

        • http://iKillRats.com/ Charlie Kelly

          awww yes teo, who was staring at his ceilling when he found out he got drafted.. lmfao

          • GEAGLE

            That’s him!

        • Anders

          So we are using hindsight again to why we should have picked this clear All-pro ILB? If he was such a clear cut great player, why was he there in the 3rd round?

          • GEAGLE

            I wouldn’t really call that hind site…who didn’t know Bowman was going to be better than that space cadet? Of course we didn’t value LBers back then, so Navarro probably wasn’t even on our draft board smh

          • Anders

            But if Bowman was so good, then why did he last to the 3rd round?

          • GEAGLE

            We have to agree to disagree, because it drives me crazy when people say that to me,,, 3rd round isn’t chopped liver… I pretty much expect a starter to probowler out of any pick in the top 100… For me, there isn’t much different between the 98th player and 47th player if your GM knows what he is doing

          • FairOaks

            It wasn’t hindsight… there were plenty of people who disliked the pick (and wanted Bowman) right when the pick happened. Te’o-Nesheim was a universally panned pick the moment it was announced. I used Bowman specifically because many people wanted him during the draft (especially after trading out of the Sean Lee pick), and didn’t just go looking for players drafted shortly thereafter who turned into Pro Bowl players (e.g. Verner). He may not have been a sure-fire Pro Bowl player but it was a lot more likely than DTN (or Keenan Clayton, a 4th round pick that year).

          • Anders

            Again DTN was a productive pass rusher at a good school and have athleticism of the charts.

            DTN have more career college sacks than Clowney and better athleticism, so why are we calling it a bad pick in the 3rd? The fact that he has played 5 years in the NFL make him better than around 80% of 3rd round picks.

            Clayton is a lot like Ryan Shazier who just got picked in the 1st this year, again super athletic LB who had better cover skills than 99% of safeties in the NFL is really such a bad pick?

          • FairOaks

            He’s had one OK year… didn’t play much in 2010, spent most of 2011 on the Eagles practice squad and played one game with Tampa after they signed him. Had a decent 2012 with four sacks and 40 tackles in 16 games… but last year 16 games, no sacks, and 14 tackles. He’s now a free agent. Plus, we had just spent two third rounders to move up for DE Brandon Graham in the first round. I can understand why they may have liked him, but there were plenty of negative scouting reports on him, and it would seem those were more accurate. People love to hate on the pick because they didn’t like it at the time, and players they wanted instead have turned out much better. Eagles picked a lot of tweeners that year, guys who stuck around at the bottom of the roster but very little starter-caliber talent. Probably a bit unlucky with injuries on Graham and Owens, but it was drafts like that one which got Banner (and Reid) booted, and Roseman more say in the draft.

          • FairOaks

            I found Tommy’s take on the pick (pretty darn accurate, actually): http://eaglesblitz.blogspot.com/2010/04/another-de-in-mix.html
            I would have been much happier taking DTN in the 4th or 5th. But it was a defensible pick as you say — there were also some who liked it. As for Bowman and why he may have fallen some, I think some thought he might be a little undersized (232 pounds), plus he had a couple off-field incidents (involvement in a fight his freshman year, and a probation violation before his junior year), and he was injured at the start of 2009 so his stats his last season were a bit down. I’m certainly not one to watch tape myself and more rely on reading stuff around the web, but it seemed to me at the time that Bowman had a much better chance of being an NFL starter, from memory. Granted, any defensive player chosen by the Eagles those years had to go through numerous coaching and scheme changes the next several years, which probably hurt development considerably.

  • nopain23

    hey t
    how about an article on MK
    with lavonte david and bobby wagner lighting up in tamba bay and seattle it’s time for kendricks to prove he can be one of the best LBers in the league. he has all the talent and physical tools in the world but is still too wildly inconsistent. IMHO he is the one Eagle who has to take the next big leap in this defense for us to be a top 10-12 defense.
    it’s no secret that i thought lavonte was a better player coming out of college. now he’s being touted as the next derrick brooks. that’s why i wanted c j mosley in this draft.not so much to replace ryans but more as an insurance policy just in case kendricks can’t take the next step. to be honest i just don’t see the insticts and anticipation you need to be a top notch LBer when i watch kendricks. i just see a guy playing out of control making a few splash plays.

    • Anders

      How much is Wagner really lighting up Seattle? Also look up what Kendricks did down the stretch, he was playing like a great lb the last 8-6 games

      • Media Mike

        That doesn’t undo the abuse he suffered from an aged and diminished Gates.

        I need to see A LOT more from Kendricks this year. Especially in getting balls thrown over his head on passes to TEs and his propensity to “Trotter” run plays by running himself out of the correct gap.

        • GEAGLE

          A second year player got abused by a veteran quasi hall of fame TE, so he sucks…. Does that make Wolff the second coming of Dawkins for shutting Gates down in the ENDZONE man to man?

          • Media Mike

            We’ll see how Kendricks improves in coverage this year, but his lack of height is troublesome in pass coverage.

          • GEAGLE

            His height is no big ideal in zone….and I don’t see why he needs to be tall to match him up with backs out of the backfield, which is the LBs job, NOT covering TEs like many same to think..l all those green dog blitzes we we see is because Kendricks is man coverage lined up against a back

    • D3FB

      You can’t really compare David to Kendricks. David plays a 43 Will. The scheme is designed for that player to be unblocked and be able to run all over and make plays. Trying to compare the two is like trying to compare an press corner to a zone corner.

      • Media Mike

        So that begs the question about trying to fit in a 4-3 rangy type little guy like Kendricks into a 3-4 where more of a thumper is needed.

        • GEAGLE

          Kendricks is fine, Meco is our thumper

        • D3FB

          Classically 34′s have had a thumper and a playmaker. I think the league is moving away from this with the expansion of the passing games. I would expect more teams to go with two versatile LB’s. Kendricks is fine as a 34 ILB, would it be preferable if he was a few inches taller? Probably, but once again, there are a finite number of 6’2/6’3 ILB’s that can be 3 down linebackers.

          • Media Mike

            But don’t you need that guy if you’re going to run a 3-4? Especially if you don’t have a NT who can consistently take up 2 blockers in the run game.

            You might be right that I’m basing my positions heights / weights / skill sets on good 3-4s rather than new ones, but we’ll see how it shakes out on the field.

          • Anders

            Well Logan was fine at NT last year. This is not your old time Steelers 3-4. A 317 pound NT is actually well above average.

          • Anders

            People also forget that Kendricks is just as heavy as guys like Patrick Willis, Bowman, Our own Ryans, Ray Lewis, Fletcher etc.

            I 100% think the modern ILB is around 6-2 240

          • D3FB

            Exactly the prototype modern ILB is 6’1-6’3, somewhere in the 240 range, runs sub 4.75 and gives you just as much in the coverage game as he does against the run.

  • Mitchell

    Another thing I don’t understand is the “TRADE VINNY CURRY BECAUSE HE DOESN”T FIT THE SYSTEM TALK!!!!” I mean pass rushers fit all systems. Pass rushing is like what, the second most important thing in this league behind QB’s? Vinny MAY not be a perfect fit here but it is up to the coaches to put him in a position to succeed. We saw what he could do last year. How fast, violent, and hungry he looked. We saw him Demolish lineman off the snap. They are not fast enough to deal with Curry’s first step.

    If he becomes an adequate 2 gapper it should be considered a bonus because he has all the tools to be a dominant sub package pass rusher. What percentage are we in base defense anyway? Get Curry on the field please.

    • Media Mike

      I’m in the “trade him due to system fit” camp because I don’t see the value in having a guy who, by the nature of his height / weight, can not be a starter on your team leave for nothing in a few more years as opposed to trading him for some type of compensation.

      I’d rather see Cole back down on the line instead of Curry on obvious passing downs with Marcus Smith worked into the spot vacated by Cole, because Smith is the only guy of the 3 who will be here long term.

      • GEAGLE

        Kruger,hart,Ced,cox…how many two gappers do you need? Better have a pass rush speed ball off your bench

      • Mitchell

        I don’t think you would want to let him go after 4 years. I would resign him because he is a special player. There would be room for him just cut a guy like Casey matthews

        • Media Mike

          If he’s able to get to the QB on a consistent basis while not being bad vs. the run as a starter; I’ll happily be wrong about him. I’m not just how many situational backup players get 2nd contracts in this league.

    • GEAGLE

      Totally agree, and I wouldn’t worry. Expect him to start in our Nickle package next to cox in a 4man line….not sure what happens when we play a 3man line in pass rushing situations,, pass rush up the middle is a QBs worst nightmare..every team has pass rushers off the edge, how many have interior pass rushers with Currys type of ability and potential? If curry don’t get the sack, odds are he chases a QB into a team mates arms…..
      ..
      With defenses being all about subpackages there really isn’t such a thing as a player Not fitting a system….and I don’t care what defense you run, if you can get pressure on QBs there will always be a spot for you

  • Maggie

    Change of topic.

    Will the guy who saved the Twinkie save the Buffalo Bills?
    C. Dean Metropoulos, the owner of PABST BLUE RIBBON and the man responsible for saving the Twinkie after buying the “snack cake” portion of Hostess, has expressed interest in purchasing the team.
    “The Metropoulos family has a continued interest in acquiring an NFL franchise and expects to review any such opportunity,” a Metropoulos spokesman told The Buffalo News on Thursday.
    Metropoulous’ son, Dean, confirmed his family’s interest in the Bills to ESPN’s Mike Rodak.
    “An NFL team is of serious interest to my family, and we love the Bills brand,” Metropoulos said.

    An ardent Eagles fan might have to consider changing brands!! ;~)

    • A_T_G

      Well, it appears there will be at least one team that won’t be going the sports science route…

      • D3FB

        But they’ll be really happy, and think they are super strong…

        • JakFTW

          What do you mean ‘think’?

        • Dominik

          You’re describing the Cowboys, are you?

      • Maggie

        Between the PBR and Twinkies, they could play poker on ESPN though.

    • Media Mike

      Munich Bills
      London Jags
      El Chargers de Cuidad Mexico

      That is the best way to “save” the Bills and keep expanding the TV dollars for real franchises.

      • Maggie

        Chihuahua Conquistadores?

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  • Media Mike

    I just can’t see Curry as an every down 3-4 DE as a 6-3, 280 lb player. You really need DEs in a 3-4 to be 6-5+ 290+ in order to really 2 gap with enough vision and occupation of space.

    • GEAGLE

      Justin smith 6’3 287lbs… 25 bench press reps. Curry did 28

      • Media Mike

        Call the Niners and see if they’d be interested in a swap. Let me know how that turns out.

        • GEAGLE

          Good one

          • Media Mike

            Happy to help. I also have that comment ready for anybody that wants to compare Kendricks to London Fletcher.

          • GEAGLE

            Dude……..sweet!

    • D3FB

      Cox and Throton are both 6’3.

      • Media Mike

        6’4″, but I get your basic point. They’re both significantly larger people than Curry however.

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  • RobNE

    maybe we can have a post where we discuss our (totally biased) views of the NFC East. I admit to not keeping up with other teams. Like how is Romo’s back? Do you think Gruden will make a difference in DC? Does Eli have anything left, were his INT’s due to him or something else (bad OL?).

    • GEAGLE

      Romo won’t make it thru the season, and we can rush for 300yrds against the Dallas defense,,

      Skins locker room is a mess, first sign of adversity and all those ME players will start to eat each other alive..

      Eli at this stage of his career in a west coast offense?….. Why? Think the giants are done until they go full rebuild

  • GEAGLE

    Since we have already elected Jordan Mathews into the hall of fame, anyone hearing any other media members around the country raving about their drafted WR? Carolina is really high on KB…Cooks is at school for that semester crap that we deal with our Stanford players so he hasn’t really been with the saints yet….any word from the New York media about ODB?

    • Maggie

      Tampa Bay Times has one short piece about Evans and Sims signings.

    • Media Mike

      ha ha ha, Carolina fans also think Scam Newton is good.

  • GEAGLE

    The game is won and lost on 3rd down…..even if he is just a 3rd down impact pass rusher, that type of player is starting to be valued more and more, where as Run stuffing NTs are starting to be devalued and playing less and less snaps,,,.. If you can carry two NT on your roster, you can carry a pass rush specialist… NT can play first and second down and still not be more valuable than the pass rusher who comes in on 3rd…

    We have 4 two gaping DEs, why wouldn’t we keep curry even if it’s just as a specialist, until he hits free agency and wants to start at least

  • GEAGLE

    After mclanes article on henrey! I officially hate him!!! Talking about his 47yard FG in the first quarter against Dallas that ended up being “the difference in the game and got us in the playoffs” I OFFICIALLY DESPISE him..
    ,,,
    Where you happy with your kickoffs in 2013? “Yes and NO”.. “Early in the year I was hitting touch backs, and when It gets colder it’s proven to be harder to kick touch backs”…how cold was it in the Vikings dome you little shit?
    ..
    I officially want to strangle him!!!

    • Media Mike

      LeBron says things aren’t always as nice as you’d think indoors.

      • GEAGLE

        Imagine poor queen James playing 90 minutes of soccer in hot/humid Brazil …italys Andrea pirlo played the entire game and he is like 67years old..

        • SteveH

          Kobe hates being associated with “losers”, which makes it a kind of delicious irony that Spain got blown the fuck out by the Netherlands. Wonder if Kobe hopped on a plane to get the hell out of there before the game even ended.

          • GEAGLE

            It was glorious seeing that fraud sit thru Spain getting their ass handed to them

          • Media Mike

            Ha ha, how does Kobe avoid mirrors that often?

        • Anders

          James is also around 100 pounds heavier than Pirlo (soccer players are SMALL).
          Also it is 100% harder to play 100+ basket games a year than around 40-50 soccers games even if you are a midfielder. While handling a soccer ball is tough, the cardio needed to play soccer is a joke compared to many other sports.

      • Bob Scatchard

        Talking about *Munich Bills*, (see above) There are a few things that the NFL is considering that I am NOT a fan of…. What do you guys think about the following:
        1. Keep the NFL Draft in APRIL.
        2. Do NOT add a 4th day to the draft, I prefer 2 but can live with 3.
        3. Do NOT add games/teams in foreign countries. Let foreign NFL football fans watch on TV or plan a vacation to the US during the season. They can head to Jacksonville, I’m sure they’ll have tickets available.

        I also am not interested in being *force fed* soccer on ESPN, Soccer in the Olympics is OK, but that’s plenty, Not enough scoring for me, it’s like watching grass grow.

        • D3FB

          I’m a major draftnik, I’m already a dozen hours into tape for next year, and even I HATE the idea of a four day draft.

          • SteveH

            Amen dude, 3 days feels torturous enough for a more casual draft follower such as myself. NFL is shameless when it comes to squeezing every last nickle out of their product.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah 4 days is just out of control…

        • Maggie

          Well, sir. There are 300 million+ Americans and at least a few of them might have different opinions. In case you hadn’t noticed, many American kids PLAY soccer, which explains the term “soccer mom”. Also, many American’s parents or grandparents emigrated to the U.S. just like the Statue of Liberty invited them. Again, many of those folks come from soccer-loving countries. ESPN (gag) knows this and will show anything that sells advertising. Even a bunch of tobacco-smoking, boozing twits sitting around playing cards, which is the antithesis of sports.

          • suthrneagle

            The number of kids(years 11-18) that play little-league soccer in the USA is more than the combined total of the number of kids who play the little-leagues of football, basketball, baseball and ice hockey.

          • Bob Scatchard

            I’m not saying soccer isn’t great for kids to play, it’s fairly inexpensive, and anything that will give them exercise and out of the house is great. However, I really don’t care how the other countries do. I feel that in the other countries that soccer is their *national game* and because it is, USA should get involved and show that we can be the best. We have a lot of sport choices in the US and I feel like it’s over-promoted by the media compared to viewing ratings. I’d like to know the TV ratings of the matches compared to the big four (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL). Their is just not enough scoring for me…

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          • Conor Mc Namara

            You want something exiting to watch during the summer try hurling.. Should be able to stream it, absolutely awesome.

          • GEAGLE

            Soccer being aired at 5:30 in the afternoon instead of PTI is really that bothersome for you? I get it if it was screwing with your primetime viewing, but how the hell does airing EXTRA sports at 5:30 really effect you? Can’t live without kprnheiser and Wilbon for two weeks?

          • Bob Scatchard

            Ha ha, I can do with out those turkeys anytime. if your a soccer fan, enjoy it…but for me I’M READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!! GO EAGLES!!

        • SteveH

          Dude… its the World Cup. It’s the biggest and most important tournament for the most popular sport on the planet and it only happens once every 4 years. I think we can shove aside a few episodes of sportscenter or WNBA games and make room for that.

        • Media Mike

          I’m sorry you’ve lost the use of your arms and need to be fed things. I pray for a speedy recovery.

          Also, the NFL in Europe is a great thing. It’ll expand the brand / TV reach of the NFL, take it out of nonsense cities that shouldn’t have teams, and give me better cities to visit to see the Eagles play. I’ve been to both Jacksonville and London; I’ll take London any day of the week.

  • GEAGLE

    VC hasn’t eaten red meat, gluten or dairy since March…he packed on weight! but dropped two pants sizes(around the waist).. Claims he feels more explosive then ever at OTAs and looks forward to the Pads coming on to see the effects of all his dietary Sacrafice,,,and this wasn’t mandated by Novacare. He says he did this on his own, trying to find his way becoming the best athlete he can possibly be…Check CSN for the complete article

  • GEAGLE

    So what’s the del with this mini camp? When does it start. Tmrw?