Getting Physical

Posted: August 1st, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 72 Comments »

We may call Cary Williams by the nickname of Sconces, but there sure isn’t much that is soft about the way he plays the game. Williams wanted to make sure the defense started playing with more attitude and took it upon himself to lead the way.

Jimmy Bama has some details.

After the first full practice in pads at Lincoln Financial Field on Monday, Cary Williams was asked if he was surprised that there were two fights, and he wasn’t involved involved in either of them. “Oh mine is coming,” replied Williams. Welp… On the third day of practice in pads, Williams tried his damnedest to mix it up.

On one play early in practice, undrafted rookie free agent Kadron Boone caught a pass near the sideline, when he casually tried to step out of bounds. Williams came barreling in and de-cleated him. “I just wanted to send a message early,” said Williams, “so that people know we’re going to be out here and stay physical, be aggressive, and just play football. It’s part of the game. We have pads on. I didn’t hurt him. You have to expect that if a guy has a great angle on you in a game, that’s what’s going to happen.”

“Welcome to the NFL,” said Boone.

Then later, Williams was playing press coverage on Jeff Maehl, I suppose, if press coverage is grabbing a guy, throwing him to the ground, and delivering hybrid pushes/punches to a guy laying in the dirt.

I like having some guys play with attitude and being on the edge, but this isn’t something you want to see on a daily basis. Having Cary Williams lay on Jeff Maehl and not let him up doesn’t prove much. You can’t throw WRs to the ground in real games. Doing it in practice is good from time to time to keep some edge between the players, but too much of this just isn’t productive.

As for Jimmy’s take on the kicking battle.

• Both kickers had OK days. Early on, Alex Henery and Murderleg started strong, each hitting from 45, 50, and 52. Later, Henery doinked one off the crossbar and over from about 50, and on the last day of practice, Murderleg doinked off the left upright from about 46 yards out, and was no good. I guess Chip isn’t superstitious. No way I’d end a practice on a missed FG.

It is good to hear that Carey Spear is much improved from the spring. I don’t know how much he is seriously pushing Alex Henery, but Spear is kicking better. Nerves and dealing with a new situation had to affect him back in May and June. He now knows what he’s doing and can be more natural.

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Jeff McLane had some good DL/OL notes again.

— The linemen went at it for one on ones for a second day in a row. Here were some of the highlights:

1. Jason Kelce did fine work against rookie nose tackle Beau Allen. He’s not the biggest center, but Kelce’s footwork is text book. I didn’t come up with that on my own. I’ve had many football people tell me how seamless a technician he can be.

2. A few readers have asked how defensive end Alejandro Villanueva has looked. He looks like he needs time to learn the position. Guard Matt Tobin wrecked him during one standoff.

3. Here’s a mismatch: Jason Peters vs. Joe Kruger. No offense to Kruger, who spent all of last season on IR, but the matchup was like a battle of the bands between the Rolling Stones and Creed.

4. Vinny Curry rushed from what looked like the seven-technique during his matchup with Lane Johnson. Curry is a good inside pass rusher, but the Eagles will sometimes line him up outside as an edge rusher, where he’s probably more comfortable. Speaking of moving linemen around, defensive end Fletcher Cox rushed from a two-point stance off the edge just inside outside linebacker Trent Cole during one team drill. I wouldn’t expect that look very often, but Bill Davis will try to find new ways to utilize Cox’ athleticism.

5. Cedric Thornton made quick work of Dennis Kelly with a hand slap. Taylor Hart ran over fellow rookie Karim BartonBrandon Graham juked rookie tackle Kevin Graf with a crossover move. Graf could only hang his head afterward.

Another positive comment on DE Taylor Hart. Nice.

Graham should eat up Graf every single time they face each other. Graf isn’t a good pass protector and Graham can still fly off the edge.

I’d like to hear more about Kruger. I’m looking forward to seeing how he plays in the preseason games.

* * * * *

Geoff Mosher offered this note on Beau Allen.

Personnel shuffles
Rookie seventh-rounder Beau Allen, who teammates have raved about since the spring camps, ran at nose tackle frequently on the first-team base defense. The Eagles have worked Bennie Logan and Damion Square mostly on the first team before giving Allen some reps there. Also, Maragos took his turn running alongside Jenkins at safety on the first defense.

Allen is playing with the 1’s due to injury so let’s not make too much of this. I did find Mosher’s comment about how teammate have raved about Allen to be interesting. I guess I have missed that.

Bennie Logan is going to be the starting NT, but the spot behind him is wide open. Allen certainly has the size to handle the role. He’s got the athleticism. He must show that he can consistently hold his ground against double teams. Just because you are 330 pounds does not mean you can anchor against NFL blockers.

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Brandon Lee Gowton wrote about Nick Foles.

• Nick Foles was mostly good but there were a few errors. During an Eagles seven on seven drill he hit one of the bug-wing defenders (picture here) for the first time in training camp. Or possibly ever. I don’t remember him doing that last year in camp.

Foles also threw his second interception of training camp after throwing his first on Wednesday. This time it was a short pass over the middle. Just like the first interception, Foles had a receiver running a drag route and he threw behind him. Foles almost had a third training camp interception when Nolan Carroll dropped one in the end zone. Had Foles put a little more arc on his pass it could have been a touchdown but it was too flat.

Two of Foles’ best throws came when his tight ends were involved. Foles threw an absolute dime to Zach Ertz on the sideline for a 15 yard gain at one point with Cary Williams in coverage. Williams had no chance because it was placed perfectly. Good route by Ertz as well. The play that stood out the most for Foles is when he threw a back shoulder to Brent Celek in the endzone for a touchdown. Brandon Graham was in coverage when Foles released and Celek stopped his route to make the catch. Beautiful.

Foles looked very good in the spring. He’s been up and down in recent days at camp. I think part of that is missing Riley Cooper and dealing with some new players, but Foles also needs to play better. Young players are going to have some ups and downs. That’s part of the maturation process.

The preseason games will tell us a lot about where Foles really is. We can judge his numbers vs what he did last year. We’ll know the context of how he plays.

Eliot Shorr-Parks is still keeping track of the QB numbers. We don’t know the full context, but here are Foles from Thursday.

Nick Foles:
Reps on Thursday: 28 (all with first team)
Stats on Thursday: 16/22, TD, INT
Analysis: Foles had an up-and-down day, but finished the afternoon razor sharp, hitting seven of his last nine passes, including a beautiful 25-yard touchdown pass to receiver Damaris Johnson. The pass was lofted just above the fingertips of two defenders, and Johnson did a nice job making the catch and staying in bounds. Foles did throw another interception, which isn’t a huge deal, but worth noting. Before practice offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur said that the quarterback likes to throw it into tight coverage during practices to see how his receivers will react, so that could be the reason for the interception.
Overall Stats: 164 reps (all with first team), 89/119, 1 TD, 2 INT

The most interesting thing is to compare the numbers for Matt Barkley and GJ Kinne. There was a discussion not long ago about how Kinne was cutting into Barkley’s snaps. To this point, Barkley has 84 snaps in camp and Kinne has 41. So much for any competition between them.

* * * * *

Good stuff from Sheil Kapadia.

Back to the field… Foles rolls to his left off play-action and finds Maehl near the sideline. I remember when Foles was a rookie, one of the things Andy Reid liked about him was that he could throw on the move.

Nice sequence for DeMeco Ryans. It’s a “thud” period, meaning you can make contact with the ball-carrier, but no tackling to the ground. Ryans is a powerful guy though, and he knocksLeSean McCoy on his butt. On the next play, he drops in coverage and intercepts Foles.

On the last play of the drill, Bryan Braman strips David Fluellen. I think that is the first fumble of the summer.

12:48 – Referees are at practice today, and at the beginning of this drill, they throw a flag on Fletcher for his contact with Maclin during 1-on-1s.

Ifeanyi Momah makes his best play in two years. It looks like a back-shoulder fade down the left sideline against Boykin. At the last minute, Momah leaps, reaches up and makes the grab. I’ve said he needs to learn how to use his size to have a shot, and he did so there.

Either Malcolm Jenkins can cover or we need to slow the Matthews hype down. The Eagles’ new safety just stuck with the rookie step for step on a corner route deep downfield and forced an incompletion.

Rookie Jaylen Watkins flashes, breaking up a pass intended for B.J. Cunningham.

On the last play of the drill, Foles and Matthews are not on the same page. Another reason why I think it’s about time the rookie gets all his reps with the starting quarterback.

1:02 – During 7-on-7, the Eagles show a dime package. I haven’t seen this previously: It’s Williams, Fletcher, Boykin and Carroll, along with two safeties and Mychal Kendricks. Given how good Carroll has looked, this could end up being a nice option in third-and-long situations or against specific opponents.

Sanchez throws three incompletions in a row, but the last one draws a flag on the defense. Williams finds the ref on the sideline for a lengthy discussion. I’m guessing he disagreed with the call.

Nate Allen does a good job of breaking on a ball deep down the left sideline from Barkley, but he can’t hold on for the INT.

A couple of writers made positive mention of CB Jaylen Watkins. The rookie is behind 3 good outside corner and Boykin in the slot, but it would still be nice for him to show some positive signs. The Eagles pass defense needs all the help it can get.

Cool to hear about the Eagles mixing in that 4-1-6 look. They might have the DBs to make that work. And you still want Kendricks on the field. That’s a lot of speed running around. Imagine if the DL was Trent Cole and Marcus Smith at DE with Brandon Graham and Vinny Curry at DT. That would be one fast group of pass rushers.

Bill Davis will have some interesting choices as he and the staff design different packages.

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Safety Keelan Johnson is back with the team. has the details.

After he was arrested in Arizona on the weekend before Training Camp, safety Keelan Johnson knew the Eagles could easily have released him and parted ways. Johnson returned to Philadelphia and met with head coach Chip Kelly, who gave him the best news possible. The Eagles weren’t going to cut him and excused him from the start of camp to take care of his situation.

“I was a little nervous. Once you face something like that, this is a game where they can get rid of you and find somebody else to bring into the position,” Johnson said after his first training session back on Thursday.

Johnson declined to discuss details of his arrest since it is still part of an ongoing investigation. He was reunited with his teammates on Wednesday and felt welcomed back by the team. Now, the hard work begins. Johnson played in his first two NFL games last season after being promoted from the practice squad on December 17. In team drill periods on Thursday, Johnson mixed in with the third-team defense.

“I think it’s the same situation I came back to this year. I’m on the bottom of the list now,” Johnson said. “I think I need to come back and not force anything, let the game come to me and stand out more than the guys who are coming here trying to take the spot I’m looking for.”

Johnson needs to stand out on the field to help his chances of making the team or earning a practice squad spot.


72 Comments on “Getting Physical”

  1. 1 Michael Winter Cho said at 12:54 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Creed vs the Rolling Stones–just perfect!

  2. 2 Anders said at 6:08 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Maybe I’m younger, but I like creed more than rolling Stones

  3. 3 bsuperfi said at 9:37 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Apparently time is on your side.

  4. 4 jay said at 10:11 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    i pray to god you’re trolling us

  5. 5 Anders said at 10:16 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    yea god forbid somebody has different music taste.

  6. 6 theycallmerob said at 10:25 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    it’s not about taste, re-read the point he’s making with the comparison (“battle of the bands”).
    in terms of talent alone, creed shouldn’t be allowed within 2 miles of the same concert hall as the Stones.

  7. 7 Buge Halls said at 2:04 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Have you heard the Stones live? Jagger sounds like he’s been gargling with razor blades!

  8. 8 theycallmerob said at 2:36 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Go back 45 years, they were a bit different

  9. 9 Anders said at 4:12 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    yea they was really good 45 years ago, so was Frank Sinastra that does not mean they are good now.

    A more perfect analogy would be Creed vs Metallica where Creed versus Stones is Kruger versus Walter Payton, one is all time best, but not that good anymore

  10. 10 Buge Halls said at 4:05 PM on August 3rd, 2014:

    Yeah – they sucked in mono instead of stereo!

  11. 11 gherbox said at 10:44 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I’m sure Creed made some record exec a lot of money. Just like Nickelback.

  12. 12 Nicodemus_09 said at 10:31 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I thought that to myself when I read it. But you had the huevos to actually print it. Kudos. Thing is, EVERYONE knows the Stones are legends. But I grew up going to Creed shows & they were just more relevant to my era. Humphrey Bogart made some of the most classic films, but I prefer Russell Crowe movies too. :~)

  13. 13 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:19 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Nico, that’s the wrong comparison there. Russell Crowe is a living legend with incredible charisma, skill, and gravitas, and right up there with Bogart in these areas. Creed is a punchline, the ultimate summit (nadir, really) of frog-voiced singers taking themselves too seriously for the benefit of teenagers. Almost Justin Bieber bad.
    The Stones now… even given the generational gap, with some time spent in exploratory listening, they should reveal themselves to be far superior, with far more moods and ideas, and to eventually appeal to both youthful energy and mature tastes. The fact that their current incarnation appear to be zombies is, unfortunately, a barrier to entry to young people.
    Once the Stones has been explored, it might be time to try another band that’s just a little bit better than Creed–The Beatles.

  14. 14 Nicodemus_09 said at 11:32 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    You make an EXCELLENT point. Crowe is WAY too famous and like you say, a “legend” in his own right. So, I’ll go with a lesser known actor whose performances I enjoy, couldn’t hold a candle to Bogart, but is more relevant to me. I’ll go with Ben Foster. Thanks for so POLITELY pointing out my faulty logic sir. : )

  15. 15 Michael Winter Cho said at 3:33 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Kinda moving the goalposts, but okay… still, I say anyone listening to Creed without giving the Stones a good chance is creating his own prison.

  16. 16 Tumtum said at 11:30 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I used to like Creed back in the day. Their stuff doesn’t hold up for me. Always been fairly meh on the Stones. So that metaphor was lost on me

  17. 17 Baloophi said at 2:11 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    RE: Beau Allen

    FWIW, when Bill Polian asked Kelly what rookies were jumping out at him, Chip mentioned Allen third after Matthews and Huff. (Crappy transcript below…)

    Polian: “How about the rookies this far? Who’s impressed you and I realize it’s early, but who’s impressed you and jumped out at you?”

    CK: “Jordan Matthews has really jumped out I think and Josh Huff at the wide receiver spot. Two guys that have great work ethics and I think it sticks out. You know when you watch them, we talk about finishing and I think every coach in the NFL talks about finishing but when they’re taking every single pass they catch and running 15, 20 yards after the catch even though we’re playing 3 to 4 snaps in a row and they’ve gotta run back to the line of scrimmage. Beau Allen is a nose for us that we took in the late rounds out of Wisconsin that has done a really, really good job for us. Taylor Hart’s another defensive lineman that I think is really going to push on the defensive side of the ball. And then Marcus Smith is really starting to develop. We have some depth at outside linebacker but you’re starting to see him on a daily basis all the sudden flash some of that athletic ability that we knew he had. We think we’ve got a really good group right now.”

  18. 18 anon said at 8:45 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    that’s everyone except for the dbs we took. that’s not good.

  19. 19 CrackSammich said at 9:03 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    You can’t answer “Who’s the best rookie you’ve got?” with “All of them.”

  20. 20 Baloophi said at 2:30 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    “Doesn’t matter what plays we like because we’re not playing the game.” – Chip Kelly

    I’m late to the party on the Bill Polian / Ross Tucker interview with Chip Kelly, but the above statement in regard to Nick Foles sharing what plays he prefers kind of stood out to me in terms of crystallizing Chip’s pragmatic genius. We’ve heard Foles say before that he talks to Kelly about what throws he prefers, etc., but hearing Chip openly admit the flexibility of “his” offense sure is refreshing in the wake of Andy. I wonder what changes Kelly would’ve made with McNabb…

  21. 21 OregonDucker said at 2:56 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Chip would sit down with McNabb, look him in the eye, and tell him that in order to improve his decision making he should consent to a full frontal lobotomy. Only then would he be able to run a Chip offense.

  22. 22 Baloophi said at 3:05 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    You don’t think Chip could design an offense that features chronic underthrows?

  23. 23 Anders said at 6:07 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Or you know actually fix his footwork? Reid never fixed it because McNabb was so talented that it would work any way. Kelly with rookie McNabb with this surrendering talent would be scary (not sure McNabb has ever had this much talent to work with collectivly)

  24. 24 sonofdman said at 7:06 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    What makes you think that our talent will surrender? 🙂

  25. 25 Anders said at 7:06 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    What about early McNabb got you the feeling that he wasnt willing to learn?

  26. 26 Tumtum said at 11:26 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I think he would of loved early McNabb. It was late career stubborn McNabb that had been catered to his entire career chip wouldn’t have liked.

    The guy is a borderline HOFer. I think it is pretty ludicrous to assume Chip would want nothing to do with him.

  27. 27 anon said at 8:35 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    they tried to fix in minny and he was like gfy.

  28. 28 Anders said at 8:47 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    He wasnt a rookie in Minny 😛

  29. 29 Insomniac said at 3:15 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    and in Washington

  30. 30 Nicodemus_09 said at 10:36 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    He might have more luck designing Kevlar for worms….

  31. 31 eagleyankfan said at 8:54 AM on August 3rd, 2014:

    Chip would have taught him to tap his chest and say “my bad” after every underthrow. Wait, he did that all on his own…

  32. 32 bill said at 9:00 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I would say Reid did some of the same things. McNabb wasn’t asked to throw back corner fades in the end zone, mostly because he was really bad at them. McNabb was awesome at screens, and they were a staple of the offense, until Vick became starter. Then screens became almost non-existent in the game plan, due to Vick’s shortcomings in that area.
    I kind of had the opposite reaction to that blurb that everyone else did. I’m hoping that Nick is at least competent at all the throws; obviously, he’ll prefer some to others, but to be a top flight quarterback, he’s going to need to be able to at least threaten to make them all. That quote makes me worry.

  33. 33 Baloophi said at 12:22 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    My point in referencing the quote wasn’t so much to launch a discussion of Foles vs. McNabb but to highlight the seemingly stark contrast in coaching philosophies between Kelly and Reid. One could argue that we didn’t see any back corner fades with McNabb because Reid simply didn’t like them – he preferred rolling right and shovel passes down in the red zone. And that would illustrate my point about coaching flexibility: Reid wanted to run HIS plays, not necessarily the ones which best fit the personnel… or, sadly, the game situation. To me, Reid would fall in love with his clever plays and “run” them come hell or high water – they may have been brilliant on paper but not necessarily work with the players we had. Let’s not forget the “prove you can run the ball in the first few plays or it comes off the table” mantra when we had an OL built to run the ball.

  34. 34 bill said at 12:50 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Yeah, wasn’t trying to make it McNabb vs. Foles at all. That’s why I threw in Vick, too. I think Reid utilized the back corner fade with Vick (wasn’t that the infamous Cooper drop vs. GB in the playoffs?), so I’m not convinced that the absence of that play during the McNabb years was down to Reid’s stubbornness (and I’m definitely not disputing that Reid was stubborn to the point of being detrimental in certain aspects). Ditto the absence of the screen during Vick’s tenure vs. it’s ubiquity with McNabb.
    I think Reid was very good at tailoring his air attack to the strengths of his QB. Backup QBs had success under Reid and then flamed out elsewhere. His problem was that he felt that the running game was, at best, a distraction from the real business of winning a football game.
    I also don’t want to make it sound like I think Foles stinks or anything. I’m just hoping that the comment in question doesn’t presage a complete absence of certain types of passes like we had with McNabb and Vick (who were both very good, but flawed, QBs). I’m hoping the Eagles struck gold with Nick, and that statement gave me an extra pinch of doubt.

  35. 35 Baloophi said at 1:39 PM on August 1st, 2014:


    FWIW, I’m not sure Reid called the pass against GB… wasn’t that Vick sprinting up to get a play off quickly?

    And I guess my takeaway from the Kelly quote was less specific about the QB and thinking more generally about his approach to tailoring an offense (vs. acquiring players that fit a specific vision… the old “he needs an athletic QB” debate). We saw him create very different offenses at New Hampshire and Oregon… I guess it’s just refreshing to hear him confirm that he’ll work around what he’s got, as opposed to forcing a system on his players…

    Also, I think you can say that Reid COULD adapt (SEE, Feeley, A.J., and Garcia, Jeff) but he was certainly slower and/or reticent to do so…

  36. 36 Buge Halls said at 2:11 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Those “clever” plays worked great Reid’s first couple of years when they were still new and innovative. But after 8 – 10 years of seeing the exact same plays, it’s no wonder defenses were able to key on them. I remember one game several years ago when the Eagles were goal and less than five and you could hear the defense yelling “shuttle” (not “shovel”!) or “toss”, as they knew exactly what was coming their way – and that was the play.

  37. 37 bsuperfi said at 9:42 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I bet Chip’s offense would’ve helped McNabb dramatically. We all know that McNabb always waited for receivers to come open, and I think the worm burners were partially a product of his desire to limit INTs. Receivers have been running wide open in Chip’s offense. Maybe McNabb would be alright with all the options, maybe not. But I’m sure he could do well enough on that front that, combined with his running ability, downfield passing ability, and more open receivers, that he’d do just fine. Maybe great. The thought of the QB run being a serious threat out of the read option when that QB is a pretty good passer is no joke.

  38. 38 eagleyankfan said at 8:55 AM on August 3rd, 2014:

    Maybe Chip would have brought anti-puke medicine for the SB?

  39. 39 Ark87 said at 8:38 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I agree with you about Williams, Tommy. An edge is great, but showing it in ways that will get you flags and fines shows a serious lack of discipline. It makes me a little uneasy. There’s what Chip says, the Chip way: Maehl got mugged by a fellow teammate, just got up and went back to the huddle. Then there’s the Williams way. We’ll see who wins that battle of wills when we start practicing with the Patriots (hint: be concerned if it isn’t Chip).

  40. 40 GEAGLE said at 4:05 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Did you hear Cary talk today? He says he hates the patriots and doesn’t like practicing with them because you don’t want to show your hand to cheaters like them. He reminded everyone that they haven’t won a SB since SPYGATE… Cary despises the patriots. Works for me

  41. 41 anon said at 8:43 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Tommy I sort of disagree on your Cary Williams comments. Yes I think yesterday he was angling for a fight — maybe being overphysical, but it’s how you (the WRs) respond.

    We play a lot of tough physical defenses this year. Their DBs are going to be physical on our WRs. What surprised me is that Jeff just ran back in line. What? I think Cary is trying to toughen the DBs and toughen up the WRs and get them to react to the physicality. If you get pacaked on your route either you push back or beat him on the next route, otherwise the DB has just dominated you, physically and perhaps psychologically.

  42. 42 theycallmerob said at 10:28 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    i agree with all of that.
    however, if maehl is seeing snaps this year, I’ll be upset whether or not he’s playing tough. dude needs to be playing tough at Left Bench, or off the 53

  43. 43 Sean Stott said at 2:02 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Is he so bad? He seems to have pretty good hands.

  44. 44 Tumtum said at 11:35 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    No issue with Mahel going right back to the line. A) you got beat, badly don’t draw extra attention to yourself, B) Don’t let him get you out of your game. If getting up and throwing haymakers at a helmeted foe because he did his job isn’t your thing, I can respect that.

  45. 45 D3FB said at 1:41 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    What would the point of getting up and fighting for Maehl be? Chips gonna kick him out of the drill. He could very well break a hand. It doesn’t translate to a game, fighting will get him ejected and fined. I’m not sure what drill it was in but we have no idea if Cary or Maehl faced each other again yesterday, so we don’t know if Maehl beat him on the next route.

  46. 46 GEAGLE said at 3:54 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Billy Davis just got done talking about how he was amazed at how physical refs allowed defenders to be last year. Especially the corners, and that the league has already told them, they will call it much tighter this year. Billy said to watch how many flags we see in the preseason this year..

    Going to be interesting to see how physical corners perform this year with them calling hand fighting much tighter… Curious to see what impact it has on physical corners like Sherm and Cary

  47. 47 jay said at 10:08 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Tommy so who WAS the DL in the dime?

  48. 48 Tumtum said at 10:15 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    7v7 there wasnt one.

  49. 49 jay said at 10:36 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    they’ll never stop the run that way

  50. 50 Tumtum said at 11:33 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    I’ll have to think about this some more, but you might be on to something.

  51. 51 Tumtum said at 10:18 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Not worried at all about the hiccups from Foles. Let us not forget he lost a training camp battle to Vick last season. He seems like a guy who will impress in practice but not be perfect. I guess this can almost be better. If everything works for you in practice you don’t learn nearly as much. Better to figure optimal ways to do everything now. THAT is the best part about Foles. He actually learns from his failures, as opposed to trying to force it his way again and again (like I would do).

  52. 52 GEAGLE said at 4:02 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    FOles isn’t trying to be perfect…. He is doing some trail and error to figure out how much more he can get away with…. Think if he was competing for his job this summer. We would see him make different reads and his completion percentage would probably be better

  53. 53 austinfan said at 11:03 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    Hart was compared with Brett Keisel before the draft. Keisel was a 7th round draft pick who was 6’4 285 lbs, only managed to start 8 seasons for the best defenses of the last decade. Keisel sat on the bench for three years before earning a starting job, but the key to his success is what scouts see in Hart, great leverage.

    I was surprised Beau Allen lasted until the 7th rd, I think switching positions and systems his last couple years lowered his stock, but like Parcells said, God didn’t make too many people that size who can move. He’s not Jerome Brown, but for a NT body, he’s got good athleticism – he’s not one of those immobile fat guys.

  54. 54 GEAGLE said at 3:48 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Beau was someone I looked at as potential UDFA for us. So I don’t at all think being drafted in the 7th was great value, it was fair value for a position that’s being more devalued every year
    New harts injury and not taking part in predraft process was an opportunity to get the kid at good value…

    I expected the eagles to come away from the 7th with Beau, Shamar, the 6’5 long arm kid from Cal. Can’t think of his name… So 7th for Beau was fair value for the kid IMO

    Also figured we would come away with one of the long DE’s: hart. Bret urban or Stanford’s mauro
    I don’t look at Hart or Beau as steals. I think they were drafted where they were supposed to be drafted…where they were drafted doesn’t mean they can’t grow to be great players, but from a prospect value point of view. I think we got them where we were supposed to get them
    The pick I think we got really good value on, is Ed Reynolds in the 5th. Think he is a better prospect than 5th round caliber,

  55. 55 The Net Press What they’re saying: Seahawks wanted to avoid Eagles in 2013 playoffs – | The Net Press said at 11:18 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    […] I could do a roundup of all the recent practice observations by Philly reporters, but Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz already took care of that. […]

  56. 56 What they’re saying: Seahawks wanted to avoid Eagles in 2013 playoffs – | Latest News Portal Info said at 11:49 AM on August 1st, 2014:

    […] I could do a roundup of all the recent practice observations by Philly reporters, but Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz already took care of that. […]

  57. 57 What they’re saying: Seahawks wanted to avoid Eagles in 2013 playoffs – | Everyday News Update said at 12:24 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    […] I could do a roundup of all the recent practice observations by Philly reporters, but Tommy Lawlor of Iggles Blitz already took care of that. […]

  58. 58 Baloophi said at 1:34 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Also, Olivia Newton John approves of this post’s title…

  59. 59 Buge Halls said at 1:59 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    I posted this on Kempski’s article, and will paste it here because the kicking needs addressed!

    I would think that the kickers in camp should be hitting from 60+
    routinely, not struggling to hit from 45-50 yards! Why isn’t the
    coaching staff addressing this? Looks like we can expect to see more games with
    short fields for the opposing offenses due to short kickoffs and more
    points left on the field (and lost games!) from missed field goals! We
    need some REAL kicking competition in camp!

  60. 60 jay said at 2:40 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    yeah we saw it when you posted it there. do you really think you’ve discovered some fatal flaw that nobody else, including the paid football minds on staff, aren’t aware of?

  61. 61 RogerPodacter said at 4:39 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    addressing it how? bringing in some competition? picking up some FA kicker? should we have used another 4th rd draft pick on another kicker?

    i’m right there with everyone else with the dislike of Henery. he wasn’t very good last season. but that doesn’t mean that we should just immediately dump him for someone else who might be even worse!

  62. 62 GEAGLE said at 3:43 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Why is this worthless, king hack Eliot Shor Parker keeping track of FOles stats? What a fucking idiot. Kid is working n different things. Shurmer says he passes up an open Cooper, to see what other kids can do in certain situations… He is also trying to see what he can and can’t get away with. If this was a game, FOles would probably be making different reads. So what in the world can you get out of keeping track of FOles stats at camp?

    It made sense last year when you had a QB battle, but Nick isn’t trying to be perfect this offseason…he is trying to use some trail and error to see how much more he can get away with….

    Elliot is consistently THE JOKE of eagles coverage. Baffled as to how that Hack gets credentials to get inside Novacare…

  63. 63 CrackSammich said at 4:42 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Somebody should let’s editor know that GEAGLE doesn’t approve.

  64. 64 GEAGLE said at 5:06 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Only a fucking moron would approve
    Usually I just let you swing from my nuts without a response!!! Cherish this one lol

  65. 65 GEAGLE said at 3:59 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Kendricks today basically said that the Juan Castillo defense was a joke..
    He talked about how terrible the wide 9 was.. Said “I think the Eagles saw my athleticism and 40 time at the combine and got the impression that I was superman LOL. He continued, the Wide 9 send the DL rushing up field, not reading any Keys, and I was responsible for the A and B gap(which he said that’s an insane amount of space to be responsible for) and man coverage on TE which I never did in college”…. WTF, they gave a rookie A and B gap responsibility? Do people understand how absurd that is?

    Spoke about how happy he is to be in a more sound defense now

  66. 66 Anders said at 4:14 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Wow that is insane, How the fuck was our defense so good in 2011 with Castillo?

  67. 67 RogerPodacter said at 4:40 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    that is waaaay too much responsibility for such a young LB!

  68. 68 GEAGLE said at 4:07 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Micheal Irvin was talking to Chip yesterday! Jordan Mathews walks up to Irvin and thanks him for what he did for the league…
    What did Micheal Irvin do for the league? I was young…did he revolutionize the WR position or something?

  69. 69 Insomniac said at 4:11 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Some kids probably looked up to him.

  70. 70 Anders said at 4:13 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    Irvin is one of the all time most physical WRs. No matter how much we hate him, he is like the anti-Pinkston (or anti-Asante)

  71. 71 GEAGLE said at 4:14 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    I know how great he is….I just don’t understand what he did for the game that young players should be thanking him for.?

  72. 72 jay said at 4:44 PM on August 1st, 2014:

    i mean if you’re a wideout known for physical play, you could have worse dudes to model your game on.