NE 42, PHI 35 – Flag Bowl

Posted: August 16th, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 118 Comments »

Ugly game. There were some positives to be sure, but penalties, turnovers and sloppy play ruled the day.

The biggest positive was the play of Nick Foles and the offense. Foles didn’t throw any picks and the starting offense was able to move the football. Things were far from perfect, but the offense at least started to look like the group we watched move the ball and score points last year. The O-line played much better and that helped a lot. The chief problem for the starting offense was receivers getting open. That’s what happens when you don’t have Riley Cooper or Jeremy Maclin playing.

Mark Sanchez had a terrific showing. He did throw one INT, but generally looked very good. He finished 11-12-117 with 2 TDs. Once again, I thought he looked good at running the attack.

WR Jordan Matthews bounced back from a bad showing last week. He was 9-104. Matthews caught a variety of passes and was able to keep the chains moving. He added RAC yards. Matthews looked good. Zach Ertz had another strong showing. He was 2-26, including a TD catch.

The defense did not have a good game. The pass rush was an issue. Tackling was an issue. Penalties were an issue. Missed assignments were an issue. And so on. It was discouraging to see the group struggle the way they did. I need to study the tape to know who is at fault. We can talk about a few individuals.

Curtis Marsh had a bad game. He gave up a couple of TDs and was beaten on several other plays. I give him credit for hanging in there. The Eagles were short some CBs due to injury so Marsh had to play a lot. Some guys fall completely apart when they struggle. Marsh kept battling even though not much was going right.

3rd downs were a major issue. The Pats were 10 of 15. They started off 7 for 7. Coverage has got to tighten up. Tackling has got to get better. Penalties were also a factor. As Chip Kelly said after the game, the Eagles must learn to not put their hands into players faces and the Eagles must quit making contact with receivers down the field. We can argue about the penalties, but the bottom line is that the NFL is set on making changes. You have to deal with the rules.

Aside from a missed FG by Alex Henery, the STs had another good showing. The highlight…Arrelious Benn blocked a punt.

Friday’s game didn’t get me too concerned with the team, but the defense’s struggles certainly have my attention. The Eagles have a lot of work to do before next week’s game with Pittsburgh.

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  • Joe Minx

    I just don’t see anything about the pass rush changing. I don’t know where the improvement is going to come from. It seems like Curry is about the only one who can get after a QB right now. Actually I think I’ve seen Beau Allen with more QB hurries than pretty much anyone else not named Curry, strangely enough.

    This also brings up the performance of the 1st round pick. While he may have flashes of talent & athletic ability, I think it’s quite clear he’s got miles to go as a pass rusher. I’d be surprised if they got anything out of him in that department this season.

    • Sconces

      Curry/Graham/Allen, Logan and Cox are solid pass rushers as well and Cole will get his like always. Kendricks and Goode are solid pass rushers but we’re playing a vanilla defense right now and so they’re not blitzing. I think we’ll be better once we start blitzing and creating 1-on-1s.

      • Jerry Pomroy

        I’ll agree Davis is playing vanilla with his calls and being very conservative. Let’s just hope that we can bring more pressure & not just emphasize bottling up the run by eating up space.

        • P_P_K

          I’m hoping Davis is calling this way only because it is preseason and he is evaluating his players.

          • holeplug

            he’s said in press conferences thats what he uses preseason for

      • GEAGLE

        Yup.. I expect Cox/curry to be one of the top interior pass rushing tandems in the league this year. 3rd and 5, Curry and Cox have to be in the game

        The hope is Our interior pass rush,and blitzing can compensate for lack of traditional edge rusher… Be patient and we will get Dion Jordan for Curry next year. Coach jOe Phylbin is intent on wasting the Dion Jordan pick. He is trying to turn Dion into what curry is… Curry for Dion is destiny

    • A_T_G

      The improvement will likely come from scheme and disguise. Davis wants a mirrored defense to allow him to be more creative, but he isn’t going to give away those ideas in preseason.

    • GEAGLE

      He will be fine in year two…and that was always going to be his career trajectory..struggle as a rookie, be ready to play a bigger role next year when we lose Cole and BG

      • Eagles4Life

        Not knowing how to rush the passer at all doesn’t get better in one season lol.

        • GEAGLE

          Blah blah

  • Jerry Pomroy

    I’m sorry but some of those (most of those) calls were just ridiculous. Granted, the defense still did not look good. But that was like placing salt on an open wound. Still these calls against the secondary we’re seeing across the league are atrocious, but this game was by far the worst example.

    • Mac

      I can only imagine how furious most people are with the new flags, but I actually like it. Penalties can now be applied more empirically rather than the haphazard manner in which they were distributed previously. I do not like ref “judgement calls.”

      • Jerry Pomroy

        That’s fine if it’s consistent across the league amongst all officiating crews. But after watching 3 different games, it’s clear that not all games were called at the same level of emphasis on these new rules. Seems really like the officials were testing different levels of emphasis to then look back to decide how tight they’d like to call it.

        • Mac

          Well, that’s annoying. But I hope they can make the calls more consistent this season.

    • OldDocRoss

      this game was by far the worst example.

      Should’ve seen the Saints/Titans game. Few dumb ones in there, (hey Jimmy G!) but the refs were hideous.

      No love for these new rules at all.

  • Joseph Dubyk

    I have been saying it for 2 years now. We don’t have a solid 3-4 rush OLB… Everyone wants to cram down Cole’s 8 sacks down my throat. But straight up he probably wouldn’t start on any other 3-4 team. . I got my balls chopped off for mentioning Orakpo before the tag while everyone else clamored for Byrd…we don’t have an OLB and that hurts.

    • Mitchell

      I know we dnt have a pass rush and I won’t shove your balls down your throat.

      • A_T_G

        No, no, no. It was Cole’s sack that was shoved down his throat. His balls were just cut off.

        • Michael Winter Cho

          Is there a Cox joke in there somewhere?

          • A_T_G

            There always is.

      • ICDogg
        • A_T_G

          I am very afraid to click that link.

        • jshort

          Sort of looks how Boykins legs were positioned when he hobbled off the field.

    • Mac

      I was holding out hope that Orakpo could be had… alas it wasn’t meant to be.

    • anon

      who would you have tried to get?

      • GEAGLE

        Jabaal Sheard

    • GEAGLE

      Orakpo sucks

    • Anders

      Most people here think Cole is done or need to be upgraded.

    • GEAGLE

      We drafted an OLB…. That doesn’t mean snap your fingers and our problems are Instantly solved….

      Marcus is going to be a damn good player… Unfortunately it doesnt happen overnight

    • Eagles4Life

      Sure don’t. And it’s glaringly obvious.

  • Cafone

    Bring back Sean McDermott.

    • P_P_K

      Or Juan Castillo?

      • Cafone

        No, those two names should never be mentioned together.

        Castillo was a moronic choice that defies almost any explanation.

        McDermott just got promoted a little too soon. In case you haven’t noticed, he’s currently the defensive coordinator for one of the best defenses in the NFL. If both McDermott and Bill Davis were suddenly looking for jobs, McDermott would be one of the most sought after Coordinators available. Davis would be looking for a job as an assistant.

        • P_P_K

          I agree, I was just messing.

  • T_S_O_P

    I notice that Demaris Johnson got 14 touches! He got them in the backfield, at WR, as a PR and as a KOR. Bubble?

    • A_T_G

      Allowing him to get tape out before he becomes available?

      • EaglesTrolltheWorld

        Exactly my thought. He was played out of necessity and doesn’t really have a place on our team. Good for him for getting good tape.

    • Alex Karklins

      He’s our new goal line power back, apparently.

    • GEAGLE

      He worked out as a RB this week because we were so light at the position…

      Surprised he is even still an eagle

    • TommyLawlor

      He’s gone.

    • RIP Worms

      Injuries at RB.

  • phillychuck

    Defensive thoughts:

    1. Marcus Smith is project. Lots of speed and athleticism, but takes poor angles and has no pass-rush moves to speak of. Won’t help this year, and that’s not good for a first round pick.

    2. Graham seemed to play with the 3rd team last night, possibly on the way to being cut.

    3. Cox still isn’t playing like an all-pro (like we projected). Hope it’s just the pre-season.

    4. Allen/Bair/Curry are out-playing Cox/Thornton/Logan through 2 games.

    Other thoughts…

    5. Benn had the punt block, but still hasn’t done anything offensively.

    6. Matthews had a good game, but he’s off-balance the first few steps after every catch, so he’s not going to get a lot of RAC yards.

    7. Last year’s excellent health seems to have been a coincidence rather than smoothie-induced at this point. Lots of soft tissue injuries.

    • GEAGLE

      Marcus is going to help plenty this year, it’s just not going to come in the form of pass rush… We don’t have many LBs who can cover, Marcus is going to have to play

  • Insomniac

    Momah is a mismatch everywhere. So far he’s done his damage across the middle and on shorter routes. He was sent deep once but Foles overshot him by a few inches. He fumbled away a 2nd TD but you can see his potential. The little things will matter so much for this giant WR.

    Marsh and Carmichael are done for. Any other CBs that are out there?

    I’ve lost all hope for Maehl. He’s the Colt Anderson of WRs for us right now. Benn hasn’t done anything yet but so he’s outplaying Maehl. Has Travis Long done anything yet?

    I was rooting for Josey for awhile now. He showed up tonight even though it was against 3rd stringers.

    Good to see Matthews bounce back. The people who didn’t watch film on Matthews are finally getting to see what he’s really like. He’ll be a solid receiver but he’s not going to dominate (I hope he proves me wrong). Oh and Huff..stop trying to overachieve on kick returns.

    I didn’t watch the 4th quarter so I missed out on how Reynolds and Pratt did. Matthew Tucker needs to have some huge games if he wants to stay on this team.

    • A_T_G

      I support this message (except that last one).

  • Iskar36

    Draft position aside, would Marcus Smith even have been noticed in the last two games? The Eagles have given him a ton of playing time and so far he has been disappointing. It’s two games into his first preseason, so not a big deal at all yet, but you would like to see a lot more from a 1st round pick.

    • anon

      he’s gotten a couple of plays in, but he’s not a pass rusher. he’s a coverage lb, and he doesn’t seem to be great against the run. they are going to try to teach him to rush but he’s not a natural born killer.

      • ATLeagle

        this is why I really like the new CBA. a role player type of guy isnt going to force a huge salary just because of draft slot. He will be great at doing what he is asked to do, which may not land him on the cover of wheaties, but it may make a huge difference to the defensive plans and abilities.

    • GEAGLE

      LOL really? U didn’t even notice Marcus in the first game?

  • anon

    heard najee goode gets the headset when ryans is out — that’s not good for kendricks. i think he’s getting a sad contract offer unless he balls out this year.

    • A_T_G

      It would be hard to give it to Kendricks. There can only be one wired helmet on the field at a time. When Ryans goes out, Kendrick’s would have to run to the sideline and change helmets.

      • anon

        what’d be so hard about that? players run to the sideline all the time. but you could be right

        • A_T_G

          You want both MLBs running off at the same time? Worse, Kendrick’s would have to run off, get his helmet, get the defensive call, run back on, and make the call to the defense.

    • TommyLawlor

      ATG is right. The MLB has it. The backup MLB has it. You don’t switch sets from helmet to helmet during the game. No insult to Kendricks at all.

    • GEAGLE

      Also hear that Nadge looks really good. Chip was raving about hi. The other day

  • A_T_G

    Even though Benn made some plays and Momah made some mistakes, Momah was getting targets and Benn was invisible. To me, Momah won the day. How did you see it? How will Chip see it?

    • Mitchell

      I agree 100% Momahtron gave Benn that touchdown. Momahtron was getting open consistently and has improved so much. Momahtron simply needs more chemistry with Foles and that long ball is a td. We know what Benn is at this point not mo.

      • EaglesTrolltheWorld

        How about Momah needing to find some new hands?

        • Mitchell

          Matthews had issues with drops last week too and look how he did this week. No drops and 9 catches. Momah was getting open on some big plays. I don’t recall reporters saying Momah has trouble with his hands ie he is dropping a ton of ball constantly.

    • GEAGLE

      Didn’t see Momah make much happen on special teams..
      ..
      Momah had the better WR performance, Benn had the better ST performance… 6th WR on the roster isn’t going to see many snaps on offense, so special team play is definitely going to have a hand in deciding who wins this camp battle…

      Anyone notice Momah make any special teams plays In the second half that I might have missed?

      • Anders

        Right now I say Momah is the 4th best WR on the roster, Smith and Huff are more pure ST players at this point

        • GEAGLE

          Yeah but your analysis is bias to suit your previous opinions..rarely get fair evaluations from u
          ..
          I love Marcus…but have no problem saying he needs tons of work. Try it, it’s not that bad

    • Mac

      Which player can produce greater results with single coverage?

    • Baloophi

      Agree. People are pointing to special teams (where Benn is better) but let’s not forget Cooper hasn’t played a snap this pre-season and Maclin is always an injury risk. I guess I’d take the guy who might better fill-in as WR replacement than special teams contributor in this instance.

      • Ark87

        True, Momah has now steadily produced on the outside vs starters in 2 games. No one behind Mac and Cooper has managed that.

  • ATLeagle

    these flags are so ticky tack that I cant even watch any more. The NFL may be dead set to keep scoring high, but there is a reason that I never got into the arena league.

    I know these offenses and coaches are known for being good at points, and defenses arent scheming, but NBA scores and the ball moving up and down like tennis is just obnoxious.

    • P_P_K

      All those penalty flags are a drag, interrupting the flow of the game. I’m hoping the League is using the preseason to make a statement and during the regular season the refs will let the guys play.

      • ATLeagle

        I am fairly certain that part of the issue is Peyton getting embarrassed by Seattle, and the Seahawks played a style of DB where they just kept committing penalties every play, and just dared the refs to call it. It is like a baseball pitcher throwing off the corners of the plate every time, if you keep hitting the spot, you start getting the wide zone. I also know the Eagles lost once upon a time because of a set of DBs that abused them at the line and no one could get out to catch.

        Now, if the NFL wants to stop that, have the officials flag the redirecting stuff, not the light touch just to know where the guy is while you cant look at the field/ball/WR at all times. Or, what I would love, let both guys not be allowed to initiate significant contact unless they are going for the ball, and if you are watching the ball and on the line to catch the ball, it doesnt matter how much contact… for offense or defense. Let the guys play. The disparity in contact allowed is far too great, now this is just going to make me have productive sundays.

        • P_P_K

          Well put. But I don’t want to have productive Sundays.

    • GEAGLE

      I was so excited for the preseason, but this absurd flag shit has completely turned me off, that I don’t even care when we play our next preseason game…it’s ridiculous

  • GermanEagle

    At least the Eagles defense looked good against Tom Brady – in practice…

  • RobNE

    Did you hear the Pats announcers say back when the Pats beat the Colts (Manning), they changed the rules. Now Denver (Manning) loses to Seattle, and they change the rules again. The NFL keeps changing the rules b/c it wants Manning to win.

    • Michael Winter Cho

      It’s not necessarily a bad thing when talent and skill and preparedness are rewarded and cheating and thuggishness discouraged. Just saying…

      • John Paine

        Being physical levels the playing field and allows less athletic players to compete. This makes for better (i.e., more competitive) games. I understand why the NFL has been going in the direction of less physicality. It neuters the defense and allows for higher scoring, and casual fans love scoring.

        But just like everything else that becomes popular and then changes to better appeal to the new fans, the NFL is getting progressively less and less enjoyable for hardcore fans. Unfortunately, they know that hardcore fans will continue to watch no matter what, while casual fans will only watch the neutered garbage. And so, neutered garbage it is.

        Or short answer… No, the rules that are being broken are stupid, and the best thing about the NFL is the physicality (excuse me… “thuggishness”… Lol). Watching Seattle beat up the Broncos was one of the most enjoyable experiences I’ve had watching a Super Bowl. The only thing that would have made it better was if the Denver receivers had been physical back.

    • Anders

      That is BS. Manning just had the best season for a QB ever, his problem was his receivers was afraid to get hit, not because of some arm battling.

  • Nick

    Tommy,

    I know that a lot of members of the Philly media respect Billy Davis as a d-coordinator, but can you tell what he has done to deserve it — apart from holding informative press conferences and being open and good interview for the media? Our defense was atrocious last year, it looks bad this year again, some of our best young defensive players (Cox, Kendricks) haven’t improved under his tutelage, our pash rush sucks and he refuses to adjust the scheme to fit players who might be able to fix it (Curry, Graham) apart from minor tweaks … Is it possible Davis may just be an engaging guy, but an awful defensive coordinator?

    • Nick

      And I know the defense improved in the second half of the season, but that was from abysmal to mediocre. I’m afraid we’ve all been grading Davis on a curve after Castillo and cutting him too much slack because (a) he is approachable and sounds smart and (b) we know Kelly wanted to go to a 3-4, which is fine but we are now a year and a half in, with a lot of assets (draft picks and free agents) thrown at the defense with little improvement.

      • Anders

        and how many of those assets are even really good. It takes time to great even a good defense (just watch how long it took for Carroll to get a good defense, it took him 3 years).

      • Tumtum

        Kebdricks has looked like a star in very limited action this preseason. The defense being atrocious last year is pretty unfairbif you watched the second half of the season too.

        Keep in mind there isn’t any specific opponent game planning in the first two weeks typically as well. Davis hasn’t shown he is a savant and can turn coal into gold, but he has shown he can get the job done.

      • GEAGLE

        LOL the definition of holding 8-9 straight opponents to 21 points is NOT mediocre..

        I’m not touching this post… Shit like this gets me mad and that’s when I start calling people idiots..

  • GEAGLE

    Marsh was the definition of “failing apart”.. It’s one thing to get beat but his technique was often terrible. To many times he had no idea where the ball was. It’s one thing to get beat a few times, but too many times he was so out of it that he never turned around to see where the ball was.
    ..
    Did Jalen Watkins play last night? Didn’t even notice him

    There was some good, some bad.. But I feel like we played too many player, mixed and Matched too many players for us to have played a clean game. Not easy to get 40 defenders ready to play defense in unicen especially when u are mixing and matching lines…

    So disrespectful to not give Brandon Graham any snaps til the second half.. Travis long vs. BG doesn’t sound so crazy now does it?

    • EaglesTrolltheWorld

      Jaylen didn’t play

      • GEAGLE

        Thanks… I was about to say, CB must have had an OK game if I didn’t notice him at all….
        ..
        Anyone see Reynolds do anything?
        ..
        Were we even playing with safeties last night?

        • Ark87

          Nate was everywhere, and playing physical for the standards he set for himself in previous years. Not anything special but he is doing solid by modern safety standards. Didn’t notice Jenkins. Noticed Wolff on 2 plays, 1 was a nice blitz and managed to tip the ball, excellent use of his athleticism. The other time most people missed when he took an awful angle on a ball carrier near the LOS, the reason no one noticed? Marsh took and even more absurd angle (they both had outside leverage initially and let the runner get outside of them). Saw Reynolds very late in the game, made a tackle.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah I noticed starters, but it feel like after Wolff made a play in the 2nd, I never noticed another safety… Need to re watch game. Was tipsy during second half and flags turned me off

  • EaglesTrolltheWorld

    Momah did not help his stock last night. His hands were nowhere to be found. The TD catch that wasn’t and his fumble regressed his progress.

    Damaris Johnson may have helped his stock, but not with us. He doesn’t really have a place with our team and both the TD catch and his RZ carries were more out of necessity because of injuries than anything else. If nothing else, they provide good film for another team to see on him. The Sanchez-to-DJ INT was 100% DJ’s fault so I don’t fault Sanchez there.

    Marcus Smith. There was one play of his I couldn’t help but notice and it wasn’t pretty. The TE shoved him off the line before running his route and knocked Smith on his ass. He was a non-factor in the rest of the play.

    • GEAGLE

      That was the first positive Damaris performance I had seen in who knows how long…

      Wish we traded marsh on Wednesday before putting this performance on film. Now marsh is worth less than Carmicheal lol

      • EaglesTrolltheWorld

        Haha but I don’t think any trades of players of his caliber will be happening anytime soon, being as cuts will be coming shortly. On some of Marsh’s targets I don’t think he played terribly. On the corner TD he did look back early but made up positioning. It was just a terrific pass and catch. I’ll say I don’t think he’s nearly as bad as Roc, but is that saying much?

        • GEAGLE

          Two trades happened this week

          Pats gave Dallas a CB for a DL, the the Packers gave the Pats Jerrel Worthy

          Eagles have ignored the waiver wire all offseason..we haven’t added any players since like April.. I have to think we will pick someone up on waivers or make a trade at some point…can’t possibly be this inactive can we?

    • Anders

      The fumble had nothing to do with hands, he had problem securing it to his body because the DB was all over him and the ILB gave a great hit to the arm who had the ball, still more impressive than any other WR because he is actually getting open.

      The int you talk about was Barkley, not Sanchez

      • EaglesTrolltheWorld

        You’re right about Barkley. The rest, meh. It’s his job to secure the ball and he’s fighting for a job.

    • FairOaks

      Momah helped his stock plenty. He was getting open and in position to make catches. The fact he was doing that against good competition is definitely encouraging, especially compared to last year. He needs to improve his strength or technique web players are trying to strip the ball, or on holding the ball when hitting the ground, to be sure. If you think he’s never going to improve from what you see today, then it would be an issue, but players can get stronger and improve, so the question is if he can do that.

      I had assumed Momah was going to be a practice squad player but I’m no longer as sure. I doubt he’s going to be a major plus on special teams, but if he can play and not be too bad, he may find a spot on the roster. Chip does like well-rounded rosters with a variety of skill sets, and nobody else is like Momah. Benn may have helped more last year, but with Matthews, I’m not sure he adds as much, and Smith could be the 6th WR / special teams ace. STs are indeed a big part of making the roster as a fringe player, but so are unique skills. Momah could be a very interesting red zone target.

  • GEAGLE

    NFL network is showing the game again right now

  • GEAGLE

    Chip Kelly says: “you have to hit 47 yard FG’s in the league”

    Really Chip? Maybe you should do something about it, instead of bringing in a guy everyone knew Alex would beat in the competition…

    • Anders

      Did you see the other missed kick by pro bowl type kicker?

      • GEAGLE

        When Alex makes a probowl, I won’t worry over missed field goals..

  • GEAGLE

    Momah lovers: he only got 4 snaps on special team last night,. That could be a problem.. But he did have a game high 42 snaps on offense,,

    Surprised that Rejus only got 10 ST snaps, so it’s not like he was used much more than Mo

    Casey Mathews had the most snaps on ST, 22… Jason Phillips had 20. Seems like those two are directly competing for a spot and getting plenty of snaps to evaluate…
    …Don’t know what to think of OLB. I always thought BG could be cut in favor of Long…. Last night long played in first half, and BG didn’t see a defensive snap til the second half, but BG got 10 more ST snaps than Long got…no IDEA how the coaches are viewing this roster battle

  • CrackSammich

    How about Brandon Bair? The kid just keeps showing up.

    • ICDogg

      Yeah, I never even heard of him until last week but he has looked like a player.

    • Joe Minx

      Not a kid at all really. He’s 29.

  • GEAGLE

    Did I dream it, or did Villanueva make a few plays yesterday? Pretty hammered by the 4th quarter.. Thank god I didn’t go thru my idea of using penalty flags thrown as a drinking game.. I’d be dead from alcohol poisoning

    • Ark87

      he did! It was pretty cool, got in on a sack and had a nice moment when he used those ridiculously long arms to grab a running back running through what seemed to be a hole, stopped him dead in his tracks. Was pretty cool. Bair has been doing that sort of thing a lot as well.

      • GEAGLE

        Yes!!! Hopefully kid shows growth, and with a year of getting coached up on practice squad turns into something…
        ..
        Bair def keeps showing up. Kruger made a few plays.. I judge yesterday as Bair > krug > hart

        Sucks to have wasted that good pressure Marcus got on QB.. Chip talked about how Marcus was chasing the QB but no one had contain on the other side so the QB ran for a TD

        People down on oass rush, but that’s a Rythm thing.. Starters on,y play a few series and last night the second team was rotating in… Gotta let our pass rushers get in a groove..

        • Ark87

          Yeah, it’s also the vanilla scheme. The whole point of the 3-4 front is to give different looks every snap, 3 dudes are going to be engaging blockers, then 0-3 others are also going to be running in from who knows where. It’s meant to be mentally difficult of the O-line to block. When you take that away you just get 3 guys squaring up on blockers, not initially put in a position to effectively rush a passer, and 1 guy to get to the passer (Trent Cole in vanilla season).

          So to your point, it’s very much about rhythm, not just in the individual battles, but also on a play to play basis challenging the integrity of O-line’s blocking schemes. Sending the pressure from all over.

          • GEAGLE

            Yeah, I mean we all know the pass rush won’t be a strength this year, but it won’t be anywhere near as bad as last night…

            Vinny curry will save us, next year we either move him to predator or he fetches us Dion Jordan in a trade :)

            This year we need to compensate for lack of edge pressure with heavy dose of blitzing and our interior pass rushers cox and curry, combined with a bunch of twisting and stunting

          • Ark87

            I was disappointed that they arent giving me the 3rd and long package of Cole-Cox-Curry-Graham

          • GEAGLE

            Dissapointed BG is getting treated like an Undrafted free agent

          • Ark87

            there’s that too lol

          • GEAGLE

            BG and Cole won’t be here next year, wonder if curry moves to predator. We were stocked with predators when we decided to move him to DE, but next year we will only have Marcus and Barwin to play as mirrored OLBs… Wonder if we had curry to OLB rotation.

            Vinny would go from a liability in the run game as a two gapping DE to a quality run stuffing OLB we can set the edge and play the run… We can still start Marcus and Barwin as mirrored OLBs, but when one needs a breather, Vinny comes in as predator and the other one plays the jack role…
            .
            After this year, my gut says Vinny either moves to OLB or gets us OLB Dion Jordan in a trade, since the dolphins continue to try and force him to become what Vinny Curry is, a 4-3 DE

  • A_T_G

    When people were complaining that the NFL is turning into flag football, I apparently completely misunderstood…

  • PhillyMike

    I’ve written in before but last night had me very frustrated, almost deja vu..seeing Brandon Graham and Trent Cole floundering around in pass coverage is ridiculous..We have the personnel to have a decent 4-3 D having our best pass pass rushers IE Curry/Graham/Cole on the field more attacking..B Davis has never had a great D..I have been very impressed with most of Kelly’s decisions but this stubborness reeks or Andy”s hubris at the end of his reign..Put the players in the best spot to succeed…every single time a qb looks over to Cole/Grahams side he should be throwing there because they bith can’t cover….blatantly obvious…I hope things change…fingers crossed…doubt it though…siggggghhhh

  • Baloophi

    Sproles

    On one of the 3rd downs in the second quarter – I think where Foles passed incomplete to Ertz on the left and Chung bailed us out illegal contact – Sproles had slipped his block and released to the weakside flat and was all alone. Don’t know if it was a busted screen left and he improvised, but if Foles can see him that sort of checkdown might result in big time yards for us. Maybe even a play designed to go away from a fake screen…

  • LeQuan Glover

    Game thoughts:

    -Even as an NBA Fan(first sport) who’s used to a fair level of Ref action, this isn’t “fair level”, this is disgusting and it’s not just us. EVERY Game has been like this, just put flags on their asses, you’ll get a better product.

    -Because of New Rules, the screen/shovel pass(which was always a high percentage play), is now a 100% play. Not 99%, not 90%, 100%. It’s because you can’t jam receivers.

    -On that same note, intermediate passes will also be more successful, even if it’s not successful, it’ll result in a flag.

    -Finally, NFL Penalties are the worst of the four major sports(Including Soccer), they don’t change the game, they don’t award teams. The very existence of an NFL Ref is to be a walking delay of game.

    Individual observations:

    -Allen Barbre is putrid, between him and Todd Herremans(who STILL somehow has a job), Foles’ll need a miracle in these four games.

    -Zach Ertz is such an amazing player. He has the size and physicality of a huge TE, but he’s good at getting separation too. It’ll only get better from here.

    -Benn/Maehl are scrubs. Add Brad Smith to that too, We need Cooper/Maclin.

    -Oh Momah, how can one look so interesting and yet, epic fail at the same time? That fumble should’ve NEVER happened. He’s a 6’7 human being, yet he carried the ball low. It’s preached to NBA Bigs: Go high and strong. Tall WR’s are able to use their hands/size to create separation.

    Same thing with the catch that wasn’t, why are you on your ass? It should be difficult to stop Momah, but somehow inexplicably this 6’7 human being was eating turf.

    -Mark Sanchez has cemented his role as back-up QB, you can tell he thrives in the simplicity of the Spread Offense, much like Nick Foles does.

    -Can we call Fletcher Cox a bust yet?

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14941/fletcher-cox

    Gets very little pressure, doesn’t make big plays. He’s just a glorified body out there.

    -Beau Allen needs to start, he’s the Jason Kelce of the defense, absolutely unbelievable athleticism that allows him to make plays.

    -Curtis Marsh/Roc, first to the unemployed line. Hey, they could try for the AFL lol.

    Last Note: When evaluating players, certain guys jump out of the gym. IE: Nick Foles. He impressed from the 2012 pre-season onwards with his Precision Passing skills. I don’t blame NFL Peeps for not knowing about Precision Passing. If you haven’t watched CP3, Steve Nash or some of the other great PG’s, you wouldn’t know.

    But Nick puts an excellent spiral on the ball and he always keeps his eyes down the field. And his 6’6 size is an athletic attribute.

    Nick’s always going to be an Elite/Franchise QB, due to tools.

    This yr’s dude is Jordan Matthews, he has nice strong arms and a presence about him with his physicality. And running a 4.5, his speed’s very good for sundays. He has all the tools to be a game-changing WR.

  • ICDogg

    Preseason is too weird to really get a handle on very much. Some players are going all out and others aren’t, you aren’t really sure exactly what the coaches are trying to evaluate or what they are trying to accomplish.

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