Chip Nuggets
Posted: December 24th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 120 Comments »Mmm, sounds tasty huh? Actually I’m just referring to some things Chip mentioned in his PC today.
* He said that Fletcher Cox may have been the team’s MVP. That is an interesting thought. You could argue for Jason Peters, Jeremy Maclin or Connor Barwin, but there is a strong case for Cox. He played at a high level all year and his ability to command blockers freed up Barwin, Trent Cole, Brandon Graham and Mychal Kendricks to go make plays. Big time impact.
* Chip mentioned that Odell Beckham was his favorite WR in the draft. Some have taken that idea and twisted it to say he was number one on the Eagles board. That’s not the case. Chip was simply talking about his personal favorite. Still, that is noteworthy when we look ahead to the upcoming draft and talk about what kind of WRs Kelly might want.
* In a question about the OL, Chip explained that some guys are still not 100 percent. He talked about how Jason Kelce played better last year. He had serious groin surgery and hurried back, but Kelly is telling us that Kelce isn’t playing like the guy from 2013. That makes sense because his game is all about athleticism and dealing with a less than ideal groin has to slow you down a bit.
* Chip talked about Nick Foles. He said Foles has been great at staying active despite the injury. Chip also refrained from making any proclamations about Foles as the QB for the next thousand years. Sounds like there will be a thorough evaluation going on in the offseason that is going to help them figure out what to do.
* Someone asked about Matt Barkley. Chip said his practice reps have gong up since the injury to Foles and that Barkley had looked good. I believe the quote was “He’s got a future here.” I’m still not sure what to make of Barkley. He hasn’t lit it up in the preseason and it is impossible to judge him aside from that. The fact that he’s not getting on the field this year at all doesn’t bode well. Chip is telling us that Mark Sanchez looks clearly better in practice.
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Trent Cole’s future is up in the air.
Trent Cole will be 32 & expensive next year, but he wants to be the rare Eagle who retires without leaving Philly: http://t.co/JVs4hbx3Ae
— Comcast SportsNet (@CSNPhilly) December 24, 2014
Trent Cole said that he doesn't think he'll be able to play Sunday. It's quite possible Cowboys game was his last with the #Eagles.
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) December 24, 2014
We’ll see.
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— Liberty Broadcast (@LibertyPods) December 24, 2014
Enjoy.
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I have this horrible feeling that Kelly may want Sanchez to be the QB next year.
I hope so. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0761052/ Opposing Defenses will be paralyzed.
There are about 1000 jokes you can make with this, all which range from tasteless to abhorrent.
butt you can’t be serious?
i dont even think he will be here next year
no way in hell that’s happening.
Eagles pudding….Mmmmmm….
Nick Foles…Mark Sanchez…we still scored a bunch of points. We still put up 27 in the loss to the Cowboys. We still scored 24 against the Skins, even after missing 2 FG’s. What we really need is a much better defense. If the offense is putting up 27-24 points every game, you need to win those games. Then again, the offense needs to stop giving the ball away. The defense is not nearly good enough to absorb that. They’re not the ’91 Eagles.
Our D flashed at times this year. They have improved in Kelly’s time, and the offense has not. With Kelly’s tempo, 24 points is not going to win many games, and putting it on the D is giving the offense an out. I want our next #1 pick to be a starter wherever. A guard, a linebacker, a corner, but we don’t have much depth across the roster. The D is improving, but the offense is a big ?
Turnovers. We could still run the ball, mostly. We could still pass the ball, mostly. But we were awesome at turning the ball over.
Keep drinking that Christmas port…
“Want to hear me rant about DBs with no instincts? Listen to the latest podcast from me and Jimmy Bama.”
I was afraid you were going to do a podcast with the DBs about J Bama having no instincts.
DB as in D-bag? lmfao
That rant was spectacular. And think of the positive press the Eagles organization would get with the first one armed defensive back. As a bonus, he probably would tackle better than Nnamdi and DRC combined.
mcnabb, bwest dawnkins, all last games losses vs the cowboys… now trent cole too….. i F*%#@ING HATE that!!!!
Dawkins’ last game with the Eagles was not a loss to the Cowboys. His last game was the loss to the Cardinals in the NFCCG. His last regular season game with the Eagles was 44-6.
oh man that 44-6 game, best regular season eagles/boys game ever! playoff spot/division title on the line last game of the season and philly showed who the real team was.
still remember the big play calls by merrill; “and now barber fumbles the football, it’s picked up by hanson, 50, 40…”
at the very least the 44-6 game is on the mount rushmore of great regular season eagles/boys games, along with such other greats as;
the body bag game
TO returning to philly game
beating dallas on xmas in 2006
4th and 1 (they give it to smith and they stop him again!)
only 4 spots for rushmore and you can interchange all of these
Foles as starter and then sign jake locker as a FA for back up, and draft rakeem cato in the late rounds to push barkley. thats the plan If you want to put money into the defense as well as early round picks.
I think jake locker could be interesting in chips system, with this OL, and weapons and running game. jake can make plays with his feet and has a strong arm
And has completed >60% of his passes a whopping 1 time since his senior year of high school.
i think chip could help him elevate his game
He’s got terrible accuracy and is a glass man. He would be worse than Sanchez.
he has more upside then sanchez at this point, somebody to coach up and cheap and little risk.
Thank you Liberty Broadcast for helping bring back the H2H show.
I like the name “Eagles Pudding”. No other show has a name like that.
Me too, but I think the logo needs to change. I appreciate the MS-paint aspect, but a single helmet with an H on it isn’t going to make sense to most people.
To the “Fletcher Cox will go to a 4-3 defense to play the 3tech and get more money” crowd.
G. McCoy: 13.6 mil apy and 14.75 guaranteed
Suh: 12.9 apy and 23.25 guaranteed
G. Atkins: 10.6 apy and 15 guaranteed
Ngata 12.1 apy and 27 guaranteed
C. Campbell 11 apy and 17 guaranteed
They don’t.
And it’s not like being “flashy” and putting up more sacks, and getting more “exposure” is making any real difference. They are interior DL. They aren’t getting shoe deals. Mo Wilkerson and Cox are both going to get PAID (straight cash homie) this offseason
Cox has to wait a year
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Cox is eligible for his extension
yea, but why give him an extension already when we have him cost controlled for 2 more years?
Yeah, payed vs. not-payed is in the Eagles control If the Eagles decided to not value DE with top dollar in their 3-4, Cox could jump to a 4-3. If the Eagles decided to pay Cox, he’ll be quite happy in their.
I think your contract list did a nice job quantifying the “money talks” aspect of how this works.
Fletcher a cox going anywhere is just Moronic. no need to even address such stupidity.
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As if the Eagles will let the best Interior DL since Jerome Brown leave philly… Btw, Cox loves it herel,he loves his team mates, he doesn’t play for stats and he plays for his team mates..
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I also stood about 8 feet away from him two weeks ago when he was raving about how much he loves playing in this defense
Never post again
On the other hand, I could easily see Brandon Graham looking for a 4-3 situation.
seems like just yesterday we were talking about beating seattle then winning out the final 3 games and having the possibility of being the first seed in the nfc… 3 weeks later and now its time to look forward to next year
seems like just yesterday we were talking about beating seattle then winning out the final 3 games and having the possibility of being the first seed in the nfc… 3 weeks later and the eagles world has completely changed. That happened way too quick and the fact that dallas now has a chance at being the number 1 seed is seriously depressing. I hope dallas plays the panthers or the falcons and ends up losing that might be enough to break me out of this depression and keep me looking forward to next year… til then FLY EAGLES FLY!
I think we get to root in a Dallas loss vs. Detroit. Maybe Mr. Suh can introduce Mr. Romo to a Captain Insano Power Bomb on the Dallas turf.
or maybe a good ole SUH POWER STOMP! to those ribs
Wasn’t it also just yesterday we were wondering about Chip’s chances for Coach of the Year? Sigh.
I got a Christmas poem from my soon to be 9-years old son:
Eagles Eagles, you are the best,
Eagles Eagles, you never rest,
Eagles Eagles, we love you,
Eagles Eagles, the Cowboys play like poo!
Eagles Eagles, I love you.
I think it says it all.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas. Tell Little TSOP we welcome him to Eagles Nation.
P.S. Don’t tell him a lifetime of football frustration awaits…
don’t tell him!? come on PunderscorePunderscoreK, he needs to know. it’s like the matrix, gotta give him the red pill and let him go down the rabbit hole.
Yea, I guess you’re right. His destiny is to join his dad and the rest of us in the sublime and ridiculous experience of being Eagles fans.
haha yeah, i guess yelling a your tv for 3 hours in pretty ridiculous…
right back at you, TunderscoreSunderscoreOunderscoreP
and a happy new year of hopefully not watching the eagles suck out loud.
ps-that kid might be a keeper!
It is good to see there are some young ones being raised right.
Remember P_P_K’s pre-Thanksgiving assignment to his son:
“Give 10 Reasons why the Cowboys Suck”
Will be hard to top that.
I’m sure the Foles vs Sanchez vs new QB discussion won’t end anytime soon – in the mean time, this: http://eaglesrewind.com/2014/12/21/the-eagles-qb-situation/ should be required reading on the topic.
There is no FOles vs, sanchez discussion, ATleast not in reality
Yea they are both not good. Discussion over
eh, we know what the sanchize is (backup/replacement level qb). jury is still out on foles. gotta give young qbs some time.
FOles is going to be the 3rd best young QB in the NFL, of this recent new generation of QBs. ONLY Luck and Wilson are above Nick FOles.
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And Nick FOles is much closer to Luck and Wilson in that, he doesn’t let mistakes unravel him, and come the 4th quarter he will always give you a chance to win the game, no matter what haloened in the first 3’Quarters.
The other young QBs, Kapernick, Bob Griffin, Cam, when they have bad gamesm they usually unravel.
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Question: How many Games have the Chip Kelly Eagles lost BECAUSE of Nick FOles? How many times has he EVER cost us a game? How many times was he the primary reason we lost a game? How many times has FOLES led us to a Loss, where he didn’t put us in good position down the stretch to have a chance to win the game? You better not say the 49ers or Cardinals games, when Cooper was dropping perfect TD’s and Huff was fumbling going into the enndzone..
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How many games has FOLES ever cost us as the QB of the Eagles? I’ll wait…. Doubt even the biggest Foles hater could name 3 times when Nick was the reason we lost.
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When they are all done developing, fans will see Nick is going to be much closer to that upper echelon with Luck and Wilson, than he will be to the guys like KAp and Bob Griffin who can’t read defenses and win from the pocket…
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Nick has that IT factor! we have seen Nick be able to play this game and make Fantastic decisions under pressure with the live bullets flying. If he did it for all of last season, that ability is clearly inside of him… Shame on you, if you bet against that young man, and Chip Kelly cultivating that ability into a gunslinger who consistently is making good decisions.l
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Think he tried to grow too fast this year. He heard the city bitch about taking sacks, not taking more chances, and he tried to grow too fast, and get away from playing the game the way he knows how, which is a prudent approach to football, living to play another down, and never putting your team in a bad position with self inflicted wounds….bet against chip and this kid, and you will most likely lose..
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Of course that was NEVER going to be proven in only 20 regular season games…
yep, gotta give em at least 3 full seasons to develop
Yup yup.
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That’s why I don’t at all equate a year two QBA like Barkley not playing ahead of a veteran like sanchez a negative sign that Bakley doesn’t have a future, Year two for a QB is still a baby phase.
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This city will just overreact anyway. Better off letting Barkley grow away from the public eye. If we see him have a good game, we will overreact and call for Barkley any time our QB struggle. And if Barkley doesn’t play well we will lb rip him to pieces.
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I’m curious just like everyone, but there is no upside in year two to see Barkley. year two is NOTHING… Even sure shot #1 franchise QBs like Matt Ryan needed 4-5 years before they were really ready to be playoff winning QBs.. Heck the best QB in the game, Rogers Probabky WOULDNT hAve looked too great in his first or second season…. The longer Barkley can be left alone to grow without us fans and media seeing him, the better chance he has to grow into a caoable of QB..
There’s data that runs the opposite direction.
Russell Wilson – Year 2
SB Winning QB
Tom Brady – Year 2
SB Winning QB
Kurt Warner – Year 2
SB Winning QB
Dan Marino – Year 2
SB Losing QB
Colin Kaepernick – Year 2
SB Losing QB
Roger Staubach – Year 3
SB Winning QB
Joe Montana – Year 3
SB Winning QB
Ben Roethlisbergber – Year 3
SB Winning QB
Troy Aikman – Year 4
SB Winning QB
Eli Manning – Year 4
SB Winning QB
Mark Rypien – Year 4
SB Winning QB
Jake Delhomme – Year 4
SB Losing QB
Rex Grossman – Year 4
SB Losing QB
Those are, like, just FACTS man…..away with your facts.
We have a NARRATIVE to push here.
How many of those guys had a fery good to dominant defense? You cant compare team achievements to personal ones like that.
If you had Wilson and Foles swap teams in 2013/14 you’d likely see Foles on the list with a super bowl and us still hokding out judgement on Wilson
“You better not say the 49ers or Cardinals games, when Cooper was
dropping perfect TD’s and Huff was fumbling going into the enndzone…”
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You’re making the “if only” 1-play counter-factual argument.
But if SF just blocked decently on that punt, the Eagles don’t get a TD. Or if any of the three 49ers don’t miss tackling Jenkins on his INT, no TD. Heck, if Kaepernick doesn’t throw the INT, there’s no TD.
Or in the Cards game, maybe Palmer completes one of the three passes he threw when AZ had 1st and goal from the Eagles 10 early in the 4th Q for a TD, then Huff’s fumble doesn’t matter.
Or if Washington’s Kai Forbath doesn’t miss a 37-yard FG, and Cousins completes one pass on the last drive, the Eagles lose the first Washington game. Or at least go to O.T.
Or what about in the Rams game, on StL’s last drive, WR Austin Pettis doesn’t drop a deep in at the Eagles 25 yard line with room to run, or the deep out at the Eagles’ 27, the Rams get 4 new downs and maybe they score.
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I don’t think the counter-factuals work in sports (or anything else). Because you have to hold constant the results of every other play in the game (or events in the world).
If only Kennedy weren’t assassinated . . . .
But who knows what would have happened.
Just sayin’.
I think the point is that in crunch time he rises to the occassion. Brady has had games where the offense doesnt get anything going all game and he drive them Down the field for a game winning drive. Foles is so Brady, but he seems to have some of that same quality. Sanchez on the other hand has more of that Tony Romo thing going
Never post again you faggot.
First of all, his name is “Foles”. There is no such person as “FOles”. You are gay and you don’t deserve to live.
3 years. Can’t stay healthy. Started 24. Hurt for 11. Time to move on
by 3 years i mean seasons and by seasons i mean fulls seasons so we’re talking 48 games. he’s only played in 28 games so you’re missing basically a season and a quarter to get the proper/large enough sample size of his performance.
injuries would be a concern for me if it was something chronic (ex; rg-knee) so i’m not really worried on that front.
in short; no it’s not time to move on. that would be the type of asinine move dan snyder or jerry jones would make.
bonus round; who in the hell are you going to get to play qb if you give up on foles. i agree with adage that if you don’t have a better option available you don’t get rid of your first option.
Lol, I love the trash his durability argument lol.. As if he runs from the pocket and gets himself hurt like VICK. You don’t like him getting hurt? Probably should take it up with the offensive line. These aren’t freak injuries that question his durability… Common injuries from playing in the pocket. big DURABLE kid that has played behind some horrible OLs dating back to college…. If FOLES got hurt behind our mess of an OL after he played through a million hits… Sanchez would have gotten injured much sooner.. Concussions, cost of doing busjess when 11 guys are trying to kill you… Every QB in the history of the position just about. Jacks his hand up at some point hitting an OL helmet while he is throwing.
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I’d bet Chip thinks of FOLES as very tough and durable
With what.
Trent Cole, I don’t want to hear about how you want to retire as an eagle, I want you to prove it during contract negotiations. You have been paid very handsomely from this organization, you have always been treated fairly, you have other sources of income from hunting shows and appearences…
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You can either renegotiate a fair contract that would account for the fact that your snaps will start to diminish as younger players Improve the next year or two…or you have EVERY Right to go try to fleece a bad team into giving you one last big pay day like so many Eagles have done, finishing their careers getting paid to underperform for some crappy organization.
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Doubt there is any opportunity for you to earn 11mil next year playing for a playoff contender…. You can Sacrafice and stay, or you have every right to go for that last big pay day from some crappy franchise like Hugh did in Jacksonville, Dawk did in Denver, westbrook in San fran, Trotter in Washington(then he came back)…. Whatever you decide, won’t change the fact that you were a GREAT EAGLE that should be remembered fondly in this city
like reggie did in GB…DAMN IT WHY DID WE HAVE TO HAVE SUCH A CHEAP SHITTY OWNER (breaking down in tears and binge eating).
Thank GOD I was younger at the time…. I can’t imagine having to live through that as a 30yr old. Probably infuriating.
i was a young kid and not into sports yet so i dodged that bullet, but it still boils my blood on how the whole thing went down. thank god jeff lurie is our owner now.
Absolutely… It still pisses me off, but u can imagine having to live thru something like that TODAY. I can deal with getting rid of Desean, getting rid of Reggie, you are probably asking me to deal with more than I can handle lol
I wasn’t even born (dodged that bullet by a year) and I am pissed even thinking about it
When chip was making the comments about KELCE not being as good as last year, he did so, raving about what a tough warrior KELCE is, to come back so quickly from a surgery that ends many players season…. So while chip was stuck watching his center underperform, he knew how impressive it was that KELCE was even able to be out there, and Chip seemed to really respect that..
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This is why I don’t get why all the fans and media are so down on Chip and the offense, obviously we all wanted to improve on last years playoff appearence, but shit happens, 2013 we had most likely the very best OL in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles, a year later, the OL was a mess, and every single starting lineman with the exception of our Cornerstone Jason Peters missed ATleast 4-5 games with injury. We played 15 different OL combinations. Most teams that face that type of adversity are lucky to win 6 games…
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Of course, the OL problems effected everything, the OL issues made FOles take a beatings and now fans are down n him for his play, when he probably should have been shutdown after the beating he took from the skins. You young QB took those hits, stayed in the game like a Warrior and played another 3 games with a shoulder and Arm that was half covered with a nasty bruise… QB tried to warrior thru games and play hurt, but that becomes impossible when you are playing hurt, and your line can’t protect you, which is what happened in the Texans game….. OL had such a negative effect on our QB and run game….l
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Even tho the results SUCK compared to last year, this Eagles team showed a lot of heart, perservering thru so much adversity all year that would have sent many teams into a nose dive much sooner than we experienced.
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Last year was the much sexier year, but considering the circumstances it was an impressive job by these coaches and Eagles team to keep us a float and keep is in the hunt as long as they did. I don’t think too many head coaches and too many locker rooms could have overcome everything we overcame to go on and have A 9 or 10 win season….. The end of this season is heartbreaking, but there is a lot to be proud of and our ridiculous media and fanbases should have some more perspective than to rip this team because all the adversity caught up to us…
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The hope was that we could stay a float long enough to get KELCE, Mathis back, and then FOles back in time to play a few games before the playoffs… That never happened, so the end of our season DIDNT go according to the script. Sure KELCE could perform at the level we have come to expect from him, but he still needs to be applauded and respected for being a warrior and coming back so quickly from that surgery and put it on the line for his team mates,,..
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The end of the year is heartbreak, but fans and the media should have better perspective than what they are showing.
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I hear people ripping chip, ridiculing his offense because of how it looked with Mark Sanchez and an OL that was in shambles? What a bunch of morons. The fact that these Jackasses expect and Demand excellence from chips offens with a backup QB and an OL mess in front of him, is a testament to what a great coach chip is viewed to be..
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If any other headcoach loses his starting Qb and his OL is a complete mess, they would be expected to win 4-6, 7 games at the most… The fact that media and fans have no perspective and still expected chip to do well is a testament to what a great coach he is.
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Tell you right now, if Aaron Rogers misses the second half of the season and his OL is in shambles all year, the packers probably miss the playoffs.
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if Russel Wilson Got Hurt, and the OL had to play 15 different combinations, the seahawks would NEVER score more than 10 points.
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If Romo misses half a season, and his OL is a mess, they win 5-7 games at best
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The fact that fans have lost their minds and expect chip to score 30 and win, no matter who the QB is and No Matter what a mess the OL is speaks to
A) our silly irrational fanbase and media market
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B) it’s a testament to what a great job chip has done for fans to already be expecting him to be able to overcome anything, no matter how big of a mess it is. That’s probably an indirect, foattering compliment to chip, but not very realistic.
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backüp QBs are in place in case you need them to fill in for a game or two…. If your back up plays 6 game, sooner or later teams will start to expose him for what he is,…a backup! When a backup goes into the game, the team around him has to elevate their games to help the backüp QB….well when our backup came into the game, we still had BIG OL problems..a backup QB isn’t going to overcome much for you…. But if the rest of the team does its job, and plays a quality game, the backup should be able to do enough to steal a win.
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But our team around Sanchez wasn’t good enough, we had to ask too much of Sanchez in order to win, and he isn’t THAT type of guy..but NO BACKUP is!!!
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If you want to win games with your backup, everything around him needs to be SOUND! Instead we had a mess in front of Sanchez, and we should have known better than to expect Sanchez to be able to carry us, when there were problems all around him…
Found it interesting, and impressive that the Eagles have rookie Jaylen Watkins practicing as an outside corner, slot corner and safety in every practice, I assumed he would learn one position this year and we would eventually expand on it, but for a rookie to be able to learn 3 different positions his rookie year, to the point where he can take practice reps at all 3 positions is friggin impressive…. His Football intelligent was highly touted, but this is some impressive ish..
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He talked about how he think Chip like his versatility and being that DB piece that can fill in wherever we need him..
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He also revealed that Nolan Carrol struggled learning to play slot Cb(DIME), because all his previous experience was at outside corner.. This is good news. We like Nolan play as a dime corner, but this intell suggests he is even a better outside CB, which would be awesome!
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Don’t be surprised If Nolan and Cary are our starting outside CB on opening day, Boykin in Nickel, Jaylen in Dime….. But I would love to see the strength and conditioning program Jack watkins up and see him surprise us at safety. No idea if he is strong enough or can tackle well enough to play safety, but his Football IQS has to be off the chart to be trusted to take reps at 3 positions during a rookie years and I certainly wouldn’t mind a high IQS safety with CB cover skills linnning up next to Malcolm Jenkins,
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NOTHNG would be a bigger boost to this franchises than us having the safety of the future already on our roster. But I definitely wouldn’t bet on Watkins, Reynolds or Wolff being the answer, tho it’s too soon to rule it out…
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Hoping Watkins gets a chance to compete at safety, before we stick him in the Dime role. Tho I’m sure we will also draft some DB talent, I just wouldnt expect us to start a rookie corner on opening day
That would be a terrible scenario. You are simply hoping that caroll is better than fletcher…a guy he has been unable to replace.
We need some real talent in our secondary.
Not MY DREAM corner tandem by any stretch if the imaginations but I’m a realist…….you going to waive your magic wand? Or do you prefer putting a gun to the head of a GM and demand that he gives us a great CB? Have you looked at this years cornerback market? Where the hell are you getting a clear cut upgrade? Change for the sake of change does no one any good….you also have NO CLUE what Nolan can do on the outside, yet he is automatically not good enough for you? Lol ok… If you say so LOL
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I know we will draft corners, but starting a rookie corner is a nightmare, I’d rather start you…
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Nolan Carrol has rarely been burned in the dime, I know he isn’t a sexy option for an angry fanbase, but you have SEEN NOTHING from Nolan all year that would give you any evidence to assume he is a bad option on the outside…
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Whenever bIlly was asked why we wouldn’t play Nolan outside ahead or Bradley, he never said Nolan can’t play outside… But he did say the opposite “playing Nolan outside ISNT the problem, the problem is then asking Bradley to play inside whe Bradley doeamt have the training to handle”
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Many actually expected Nolan to take the outside spot from Bradley in the preseason but Nolan got hurt at the worst possible time…
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I would LOVE to see Cary and Byron Maxwell outside, with Devin McCourty and Malcolm Jenkins at safety, but I’m a realist..
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If I had to get money on what the starting outside corners of the Eagles would be on opening day in September, by far, I would feel my best odds are betting on Nolan and Cary being the starters…… I’m sure we will draft young corner at talentl but rookie Corners typically suck, and I wouldn’t expect a rookie to be a better option than those two veterans before the middle of next season at the earliest
You can simply replace Cary instead of Fletch , cut Cary and use his money on Maxwell while using Watkins, Caroll and a draft pick to replace Fletch
Maxwell is not realistic. The best corner in a crap corner market is going to get STUPID MONEY thrown his way by one of the usual jackass organizations that suck and have to overpay to get good players…
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He is sitting like a King, top young corner in an aneroxic CB market. I assume whoever signs him will have had to overpay, and I doubt we see the Eagles out bid 5 other teams and overpay for someone else’s player
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I would love to see Maxwell on the Eagles, but I don’t like the odds of that happening AT All
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If you don’t want to see Cary and Nolan start on the outside, our best hope most likely is a corner we draft, being a rare corner that can play right away as a rookie, but even then, it’s doubtful he can instantly play at a higher level than Cary or Nolan
Disagree he is a perfect fit and more realistic than Byrd plus if Revis is on the market he is no longer the top dog, Cary is overpaid right now anyway
BYRD obviously wasn’t REALISTIC!!! You don’t see me say anywhere that Maxwell WOULDNT be a perfect fit.
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But the highest contract we gave to another teams free agent is what, the 36m we gave to Barwin? I assume Maxwell will cost more than that because of the lack of competition on the market…where as when we signed Barwin, he wasn’t even the highest paid player at his position when we signed him, Kruger got more.
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Maxwell is a great fit for us on the field, doubt he is a realistic signing for this offseason considering how many of our own players we have to resign… But you can count on me rooting for you to b right, and me being proven wrong…. I damn sure wouldn’t bet on us signing Maxwell
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REVIS is different…. Thats a veteran corner who will spend the rest of his career bouncing around from contender to contender on short Big money deals… The teams that are trying to build a team, looking for a corner won’t even compare Maxwell and REVIS.
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For example, the Eagles won’t even look at REVIS, and I’m sure a lot of other teams will also feel that way, where as EVERY team that has a need at corner is going to look at one of the big long corners of SUPERBOWL champion Legion of Boom
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Like I said, I’m rooting for you, but my money is on Cary/Nolan tandem, with corners being drafted and groomed to take over……..I sure woulld love to see us cut Cary, and go Maxwell/Nolan until the kid we draft can replace Nolan…. But we have way too many key young players we need to get under contract….not sure what next years free agent DB market looks like, but I assume this city is Going to be very happy with how the CB position is addressed in free agency this year lol
Yeah my prediction(hope) is Maxwell/Nolan with Cary cut but even if that doesn’t happen I doubt we go Cary/Nolan at worst I think they do a Jenkins kind of signing and bring in a Jackson, Cox level player
He could go the Alterraun Verner route and actually not be that expensive.
A young tall, Super Bowl champion corner from the friggin Legion of Boom ISNT going to be that expensive? Hope you are right, I would love to be wrong.
This. I personally dont want Cary or Fletcher on this team next year. I’m fine with Caroll, Watkins, and a high draft pick competing for one job.
Maxwell is the ideal scenario. I’d pay him very well to stabilze this secondary. Cromartie is another option I like, but more of a stop gap.
I also like the idea of Antrel Rolle next to Jenkins. I normally dont like older guys, but he seems like the prototype of Billy Davis.
I think Rolle wants to play corner somewhere. I remember (for whatever that’s worth) an article where he was complaining about having to stick as a safety in NYG due to injuries and expected to play CB. Probably a money thing.
I’ve heard a lot of people dismiss the depth on the roster because “they couldn’t even replace *insert struggling player*”. To be honest I’m not sure I’ve heard of anyone ever becoming a starter mid season because they practiced better than the incumbent at any position in any sport. You make a depth-chart over the off-season based on practice and preseason evaluations then you stick with it. The only way I’ve seen a starter unseated is when the starter’s play becomes inadequate, or he gets injured and his backup outplays him. The last situation is with rookies that have tremendous talent (or high draft-pick) but coaches won’t let them on the field until they polish up a few things, so a place-holder starter will get the game snaps until the rookie gets the nod from coaches.
Other sports like Hockey and Basketball have rotations so on game day they can put something on tape during a live game to give coaches something tangible to consider for promotions to starter.
Either way, opportunities are few to take someone’s job in pro sports, the only thing you can do is practice well so the coach trusts you enough to call your number when the opportunity arises (starter goes down or is benched).
“The only way I’ve seen a starter unseated is when the starter’s play becomes inadequate”
We’re talking about Bradley Fletcher right?
“To be honest I’m not sure I’ve heard of anyone ever becoming a starter mid season because they practiced better than the incumbent at any position in any sport.”
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Earl Wolff replaced Patrick Chung in the middle of 2013.
Chung returned to the starting lineup only because pf Wolff’s (poorly diagnosed) knee injury.
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As an aside, I suspect that Wolff’s attorneys have already assembled the medical records and obtained an expert opinion needed to provide the foundation for a malpractice action against the Eagles and the team’s physician — noted orthopedic surgeon Peter DeLuca — for the misdiagnosis of his knee injury in 2013.
Wolff had his surgery done by James Andrews, MD.
Maybe that means something. Maybe it doesn’t.
But if your doctor overlooked the tumor growing on your spine, would you want him to remove it once he finally found it? Or another physician?
I doubt Wolff would have a case,
Apparently knee lesions are difficult to diagnose. Based on the symptoms likely reported (pain, instability, soreness), and if not spotted on the initial MRI, there would be no reason to conduct extra testing.
Players also maintain the right to seek a second opinion at any time. Wolff would likely have to prove an intentional misdiagnoses, which considering the teams doctors incentives align with his own would probably be hard to prove.
Him getting the procedure done by Dr. Andrews isn’t a big deal. He’s the best orthopedic on the planet. If it was some random name, I could see that as a problem, but Andrews list of clients is a Who’s who of pro athletes.
Intentional misdiagnosis?
That’s not a legal standard — although proof of intentionally tortious conduct, like negligence, would justify an award of punitive damages.
Wolff’s case is about what a reasonable physician should have known or believed based on his whatever he was telling the doctor, along with what any MRI showed. Or would be expected to show if taken.
Regardless, I understand your main point. I suppose that’s DeLuca’s explanation, too.
Wow… Carolina is the first repeat division winner in the history of the NFC a South….,crazy no team has ever won back to back division title in that division and the first to do it is an average at best carolina team.
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Only NFC a playoff team that we didn’t beat or play really tough is the Packers. We Embarressed Carolina yet we have to watch them in the playoffs? Grrrrrrrrr
Dont they have to beat Atlanta first?
Think they already secured the division.
Yes. This Sunday’s game is a play-in game for whichever team wins.
You sure? If that’s true, then I guess the segment I just heard on espn was that, WITH a WIN on SUNDAY, the Panthers owuld be the first team to ever repeat as Divisipn winner of the south.
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Lol, if that’s the case, then espn just jinxed the panthers and thee Falcons probably win LOL
yeah, you would think that the run the saints had with drew brees would have yielded at least 1 back to back title run.
Atlanta should win that game, so don’t worry about it.
I honestly believe that Fletcher’s failures aren’t completely his fault. I put some of that blame on Nate Allen because when he does go to Fletcher’s side, a play is usually made.
We need some quality safeties and hope we can get them this upcoming draft.
As for QBs, I can see us going after Hundley if he’s there.
Hundley is very realistic in the second d round he does have upside but boy does this class kinda suck outside of the top 1-2 guys
I’d sure love to see the Eagles go after Collins the SS out of ‘Bama where he can play both FS/SS due to having the experience in both positions.
They failed in one defensive pick in the 1st round, why not try another on defense.
I think Collins would fit better on other teams than ours. I can’t see him being a guy you want covering other teams slot receivers on a consistent basis.
I don’t even think Landon Collins will be on our draft board. Stylistically he really ISNT a good fit for what we do.. I would be completely shocked if they drafted him
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Check the kid from Virginia
Really? Because he can play both the strong and free positions and may possibly play some corner situations.
And I thought about the VA kid, too. But I feel CK wants versatile players that can play both sides, so WDIK?
for sure it’s a team effort and it doesn’t stop with just the performance/talent on field. billy/chip put fletcher in a “winston justice game-esque” situation where he was not getting the proper help and he got burned on multiple occasions.
one of the smartest/most perceptive things i’ve ever heard djax say was that the eagles 2ndary game plan was “naive.”
One of the smartest/most perceptive things I’ve ever heard is that the bottled water, Evian, spelled backwards is naive.
Nate Allen has a lot of man to man duties in this defense. The problem is the scheme leaves players on islands and fletcher isn’t good enough to handle that when the pressure doesn’t reach the QB.
Yuck on Hundley. Too much running, not enough reading of D and pocket passing. I don’t want us to revert to playing that type of dolt at QB.
My buddies and I usually Tivo the Eagles games and watch them later, ff through the commercials. While watching the game, we will hit the floor and do pushups to send needed mojo onto the field. In other words, we believe our pushups, from a distance of hundreds or thousands of miles away, can impact a game that is already over. I ask y’all, on which side of the sanity line are we living?
There was a time when Eagles fans simply passed the home-made water pipe.
Less effort. More other-worldly energy to connect to the guys on the field.
But about the effect as the push-ups, I think.
Less effort? Back in the day, after a couple passes of the home-made apparatus, getting up from the couch to get the munchies felt much harder than todays pushups.
As in any level of sports, there are always practice players, game players, and then the rarest of the rare, big game players. Maybe Sanchez is one of those players who looks great in practice but it doesn’t translate to the game.
My wife’s the best. Merry Xmas!
+1 catchphrase
DULLES SOCKS?
Dolles Sacks.
Merry X-mas Eagles fam, hope everyone had a good one. I got some new Eagles themed pajama pants so I’m stoked ;).
Merry chipmas
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One thing I will say about Nate Allen, and I noticed this in college. He can catch the ball better than our other Dbs. Not giving him a pass, it’s just ironic that our db with the best instincts can’t catch (Malcolm dropped ints) and the db with the best hands has no instincts.