Roster Move Coming
Posted: December 9th, 2014 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 83 Comments »The Eagles cut CB Roc Carmichael today. One possible reason…
Josh Huff (hip) didn't practice today and may be long shot for Sunday, so the #Eagles' corresponding move could be to get a WR off waivers.
— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) December 9, 2014
The Eagles have the main 3 receivers and also Jeff Maehl and Brad Smith. They don’t need a WR, but it might not hurt to have one available. Will Murphy and Quron Pratt are on the practice squad.
The Saints let go of Joe Morgan today. The Eagles might love his potential, but the Saints got sick of his issues so they cut him. Doesn’t exactly sound like a good fit for Chip Kelly’s culture. I’m not sure who else is out there that the Eagles might like.
If they don’t go for a WR, maybe they target a KOR. Huff had those duties recently. Chris Polk had them previously but has also been banged up. Stay tuned.
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Jake Knott was added to the Dolphins roster. Good for him.
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Did you realize that Jeremy Maclin has better numbers than Dez Bryant?
Mac – 74-1109-10
Dez – 73-1034-10
There is no question that Dez is the superior player. Mac is a good receiver, but he’s not a player that can just overwhelm defenders. He’s not going to take over games like Dez can.
I just found it interesting that Mac has the better stats this year, even if just by a nod.
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I was in the car today when an NFL reporter was on the radio talking about how Jay Gruden rips RG3 so openly. To this guy, that meant that RG3 was done in D.C. Snyder would not have allowed that in the past. And it is amazing that the first year coach is doing that. No matter what he thinks of RG3, coaches rarely air dirty laundry in the media.
This got me to thinking about the Eagles. Riley Cooper has the complete support of his coaches despite less than great play this year. Forget what Coop thinks, what do free agents think. They see a player having a so-so year and getting total support from his coach. They also see Gruden ripping his young QB who got hurt on the field. Is that a coach players will want to play for?
There is something to be said for honesty from coaches, but I prefer when they protect their players and keep criticism in-house. Bill Walsh wrote about that in his great book. Andy Reid did it for years. Kelly has done it at Oregon and here. There’s just nothing to gain from ripping your players.
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Bradley Fletcher leads the NFL in passes defensed with 21. This is good and bad at the same time. It is bad because it shows how often teams target him. A ton of throws come his way. The good side of it is that Fletcher is close enough to the receiver to get his hands on the ball on a regular basis and break up 1.5 passes a game.
I really like Fletcher for his effort and competitiveness, but he’s just not a good starting CB.
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I read Bill Walsh’s “Finding the Winning Edge” a couple of years ago and found it fascinating that such simple principles of coaching and surrounding yourself with like minded individuals yield championships. Andy Reid kept all of that stuff in house and you have to remember he is part of the Holmgren coaching tree, who in turn is a direct descendant of the Walsh coaching tree. I see alot of Bill Walsh in Chip Kelly: Visionary, smart, coached in the college game before coming to the NFL. I credit ESPN for this blurb on their “Greatest NFL Coaches” expose’:
Bill Walsh: After taking over a team that went 2-14 in 1978, Walsh’s first two San Francisco teams finished a combined 8-24. In 1981, the 49ers lost two of their first three games, then won 15 of their next 16 and beat Cincinnati in Super Bowl XVI to complete what was arguably the greatest turnaround in professional sports history at the time.
Chip has an opportunity to write his own legacy in the NFL and be the next ‘pioneer’ in the league. I think he realizes that, and with losses against good teams recently, you have to remember that even the great ones stumbled out of the gate against great competition. It’s not a sprint it’s a marathon. Let’s all be patient and see how this plays out. 2/3rds if not more of this team are players Chip has inherited from Andy.
Now Chip just needs to find his Joe Montana and Ronnie Lott.
I would think that another year or 2 of free agency and the draft that chip should have this roster set just the way he wants it, with his guys in each position.
I just hope Foles is back before the end of the year so we get another look at him before the off season.
Big difference with Walsh and Kelly is that Walsh had an extensive NFL resume as a long time NFL asst coach and had to go back to college to get a HC position after getting passed over for the Bengals HC job.
Ripping your players in public serves zero purpose in any professional sport.
Best guy in town at doing that was actually Charlie Manuel. Below average in-game manager but was great at handling players including when things went off track a bit.
Never criticized the player in public, never disclosed what was discussed in private except with vague confirmations, and answered questions about it calmly. Did this several times with JRoll and the in-season incidents never went anywhere because the media had nothing to grasp on to and perpetuate the story. Never heard JRoll complain about the manager either & was a vocal supporter of him when he got fired.
Not only that, JRoll didn’t get upset when Manuel benched him for not hustling. After the game, Jimmy said he broke one of his 3 rules and that’s why he had to sit. I miss Manuel, and I think with a better GM/Scouting staff, he could have stayed and had more success. Plus, after last year, I really see the difference a manager makes with this team. I don’t know how Sandberg gets another year (same with RAJ), but just have to wait this out.
you miss Charlie? He bats Utley and Howard back to back in the WS even though this means one left handed reliever can come in against them. He may be good at protecting his team from the media etc., but I think he’s a pretty awful game manager. He’s the opposite of someone like Maddon.
You’re right, but when I look at Sandberg, there’s nothing there that I find that I like. At least Manuel would make a change if something wasn’t working. He may not be the smartest guy in the room, but he did get results and the players played hard for him.
oh Sandberg is the same. The Phillies are just awful. They need new ownership, new management and get out of the stone ages.
I see Theo go to Chicago and rebuild the team. They need to hire someone forward thinking.
I am dreading any Cole Hamels trade. They will get a pack of bubble gum for him. I hope they just keep him, because I am that afraid of Phillies management being able to get a good return.
On a side (not really side note)
Its dallas week!
https://twitter.com/Mr_JM20/status/542529045695451136
Didn’t get to share last time :3
Wait, what?!
They roped off the star, and you crossed the lines and danced on it? That may be the coolest thing I have seen all week.
I liked what I saw from Pratt in preseason. That’s the end of my extensive opinion.
Yeah, it sure would be nice to get #10 back out there again.
Dallas runs far fewer plays than Philadelphia. It is interesting the totals are so similar, but if Dez were in this offense he’d put up 2,000 yards and 20 TDs.
On a random note, isn’t Dez a FA next year?
He is yeah, which means jerry will probably give him something along the lines of 140M over 9 years to stay around, thus meaning they cant sign any other FA’s…
They apparently offered 114 over 10 in November, but only 20 million guaranteed. I hope Dez takes them to the cleaners, and they sign Adrian Peterson to a ridiculous deal as well, and Jerry Jones lives to be 300.
Was that around the time he came out with the ‘i want to stay here, but I’m going to be paid what I’m worth’ comment? I wonder will Jerry make a ‘sexy’ pick in the first round this year and pass up a better player, since he regretted not drafting Johnny Football?
I think they sign Murray and let Dez walk. You can’t have both, and if he does, then he won’t be able to sign anyone else. Now if Peterson goes there, Murray walks, but still not a done deal he can keep Dez.
Doubt Jerruh has the discaplin and brain to let Dez walk
can’t let guys like that walk on principal. they aren’t in a position to get anyone near as talented
hah why do you think murray is getting 400 touches this year? you know what happens to rbs that get that many touches? the jump off a cliff.
With as strong as their OL is, they don’t need a top RB to make the scheme go. If it comes down to a choice between the two, Dez stays, Murray goes.
Question is how much will others team be scared of because of the off the field stuff?
Colin Cowherd said on his show he heard so many storys about Bryant that are not in the newspapers because they aren’t confirmed enough (yet), he doesn’t think you can pay him top money.
Dallas will know all of this, of course, the question is: how afraid are other teams of the “unknown” stuff? Is it even unknown for them (if Cowherd hears stuff, you bet he’s not the only one who hears stuff)? Do other teams think they will get him under control?
If we’re only talk on the field stuff, I think Bryant is a top 3 WR and should be paid like one. Under Megatron, because he’s the boss, but in the 40-45m guar. range (Megatron had 49m).
But because of the off the field stuff, I don’t think you can pay this kind of money. Just hope Jerry will, but I think even he’s smarter than that.
Cowherd = Eskin in the reliability rankings!
He loves the Dallas Cowboys way to much for my taste, but I really like him. Only sports radio show I listen to (via podcast, at least).
That’s why I prefer the NFL channel on Sirius/XM. No homers there (except for the fans that call in)
He’s no homer. He just likes them. There’s a difference in that, at least for me.
I wouldn’t say he’s right all the time. I disagree with him from time to time, sometimes he turns out to be right, sometimes I’m right. But I enjoy his input.
Yea there’s rumors out there that the cops have been to his house 6 times. At the same time it’s Jerry Jones leader of the coacaine cowboys, so I’m not sure high moral character is something he cares about.
I wouldn’t say Jerry cares. But Jerry cares about market value. He’s an idiot, but no fool. 😉
After all this press it will actually not surprise me if Coop has his best game of the year against the Cowboys on Sunday.
Couldn’t Sproles be KOR?
He’s done it before, but his lack of deep speed limits him a bit. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him returning kicks though with both Huff and Polk banged up.
Why you don’t judge rookies:
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After plenty of posters puffed their chest out when Kenny Vaccaro turned out to be a good looking safety, ripping the Eagles for passing on such an awesome safety… Good or bad, ANYTHING YOU GET FROM A ROOKIE is JUST a BONUS, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS…. Fast forward to yeàr two and Kenny Vaccaro has been benched, ranking 84th out of 86 safeties…
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In other words, Kemmy Vaccarro has looked like such a chump, that He makes Nate Allen look like a smart player,
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This segways to all the people ripping Clowney calling him a bust, and now he is having microfracture surgery, same surgery that ruined young Brandon Graham’s early Career, which means at best. It’s going to take a year or two until CLowney even has a chance of producing as a top pick. People will continue to rip him and call him a bust…but BG should have taught people that sometimes maturing into your NFL veteran game can take a few years
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Bennie logan was ripped by a lot of the same people that were puffing their chest out over their bullshit fraudulent Vaccarro evaluations lol, wanting to draft a NT in round 1, because logan couldnt dominate in the playoffs as a rookie, while they great vaccarro looked awesome,…a year later and Vaccaro is a chump, and bennie logan is surpassing players like Dontari Poe as one of the best young NT in the NFL behind Marcel Dareus of course..
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However you think you want to judge marcus Smifh at this point, don’t bother, because you don’t know a damn thing, it can go either way with him, and our coaches by now should have proved that they know a thing or two about young olayers and how to grow them…after what this staff has done with young players, and prioritizing character and work either when selecting young players, you can bet against Maaaaarcus Daaaaaarling If you want, good chance you end up losing that bet, like so many fools who keep thinking they can evaluate young players better than chip
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My favorite is yje morons that rip huff…. Chip has gotten a first hand look at what it takes to be successful in the NFL, he has known huff since he was a teen, i owns h
I’m a fan of Huff too, think he’s got some real tenacity. This hip injury is a little concerning though, 2nd injury in his first season and he is basically only playing special teams.
He isn’t really injured. It’s a contusion, can happen to anyone
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I like Huff a lot more now, then I did predraft.. But even tho I wasn’t high on him and I trust my player evaluations more than I trust most media, as soon as we drafted him, I never uttered a bad word about Drafting him. I immediately chalked it up to I can’t possibly know how successful Huff can be better than chip… It’s one thing to crap on a regular player we drafted after a couple months of coaches watching film on the kid…
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But as a fan, who cares what I think of Huff? How can I presume to know him better than chip who been watching him since a teenager, and has seen his work ethics and practice habits every day for years? Chip knows exactly what huff can become, he knows exactly what it takes to succeed in the NFL after getting NFL experience last year and he knows exactly what his offense requires… Huff was Probably our draft pick that I liked the least pre draft, but THATS the last draft pick I question making it, even if I didn’t see what chip saw in him pre draft…
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Expecting Huff to be a Nice “Queen” chess piece of our WR corp, moving huff all around the formation. Lining up outside, in the slot, and in the backfield…
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That’s one drqft pick I would feel foolish betting against
He’s still a bit raw and makes IMO mental mistakes because he wants to make a big play every time. Once he lets the game come to him, and take what’s there, he’s going to be a solid player. He’s aggressive, violent, and works hard. I love that about any player.
Oh absolutely… He isn’t going to be ready this year… But I expect a huge leap in play next year from Huff, jordan, Beau, Marcus
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BUT YEAR 3 is when they will really blow up. See Fketcher Cox and Kendricks.
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Friggin Bennie Logan is going to be a star NT in year 3. Wait TIL people see how much more dominant Cox and Logan will be next year….scary
I’ll second that, Avery Greene. Huff is an aggressive, violent, hard worker, and it’s hard not to admire that. I rip both Huff and the Eagles because of the mistakes and that he’s gotten playing time despite them. You don’t see Marcus Smith the 2nd on the field because of mental mistakes he’s making, yet Huff has how many turnovers and he still plays? I don’t get it.
I also think that while he’s talented, he would have been available a full round later. When you look at the measurables, he’s not elite in any category. Speed is good, but he’s not a deep threat. Route running needs a lot of refinement still. Only elite skill I see is his run after catch, which is nice but he seems to defy Chip’s preference for exceptionally big/athletic people.
Vaccaro went down to ACL surgery in his rookie and lost his veteran presence next to him (and is coached by Rob Ryan, who might be a worse DC than Castillo).
Ok… LOL @ the geat safety tandem of Jarius BYRD and Kenny LOL that blew up in the Saints face lol thanks for Malcolm tho!!
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ahahahah Rob ryan is worse than Juan? Lol Juan ever coach top 5 ranked defense? … Then again, you argued defending what an awesome safety Nate was, so I guess we have to agree to disagree…
I have to agree with GEAGLE here, Rob Ryan is minions times a better DC than JC will ever be.
One is a defensive coordinator.l the other is a line coach who pretended to coach defense for two month…. This isn’t even debateable…
Your homosexuality isn’t even debatable. Never post again and then kill yourself.
Where did I defend Vaccaro? I just offer an explanation why his play slipped from potential DROY to benched
Getting antsy not knowing what our QB situation will be like in the playoffs. Curious as to what would have to unfold to have FOles as our QB in the playoffs.
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dallas ISNT on our level, their D is a joke
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skins have RG3 Back starting with McCoy injured, his teams mates won’t play for him, they will roll over against us…
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NY I expect to show some heart and pride and not roll over against us, but they don’t have the horses..
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I wouldn’t be surprised if Sanchez looks really good these last 3 games, but that would be false hope going into playoffs because no matter how well he plays these last 3 games, nothing he can show against these weak defenses will give me confidence that he can move the ball and put up points against good playoff defense like seattle, Detroit, arizona… I’d almost rather face GB with Sanchez, ATleast they have a chump defense he has a chance of putting up points aganst
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I will be really dissapointed if Nick doesn’t get a chance to build on last years playoff performance…even with Nick we will be an underdog, but I don’t see the talent limitatiòns in Nick that will Doom us to not be able to compete against quality defenses…l I need my RAINMAKER back!!!
Sal Pal had an interesting take on this game. I’d have to agree that the coaches didn’t help Sanchez out to start the game. We’ve learned that if you rattle Sanchez early, you can take him out of the game.
Whereas, if you get a rhythm going and Sanchez gets hot, he can be really effective.
This isn’t to say Sanchez is the savior, but 3 passes from your own 8 to start your offense isn’t a good gameplan. It didn’t work out for Manning, and he’s 10x the QB Sanchez is.
Oh our offense is DEFINITELT capable of much better than what they showed against Seattle. Seattle D kicked our ass, but a lot of it was our own doing, players like Kelce, Celek, Mathis completely whiffing on blocks in the run game, shady head being all screwed up over his cousins, missing blitz pickup assignments… Even Maclin, Ertz were gettng open a few times and Sanchez didn’t see them… We are capable of playing much better even against Seattle defense..
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But Sanchez completed 10 passes, last time he played them as a Jet he completed 9 passes… I know we left opportunities on the field and we are capable of better, but I haven’t seen anything with my actual eyes that shows Sanchez being able to throw against that secondary
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Maclin was as open as he is going to get against Sherm, I bet if Sanchez had aaron Rogers type ball placement Maclin could have had a big 8 catch 100 plus game with the little separation he got against Sherm.. I simply don’t have any evidence to suggest Sanchez has the ball placement to consistently fit balls thru smaller playoff windows
I usually don’t agree with anything Sal Pal has to offer, but I’m with him on this one.
First beat dallas, then find out what Foles status is.
If after beating dallas, we’ll see what Chip really feels about Nick long term. Sanchez basically won the division with 2 victories against dallas. Are those performances enough to give Sanchez the playoff nod, or does Chip go back to Nick? Do you upset the flow by putting Nick back in and perhaps cost a potential first round victory, or do you roll the dice and thing Nick has a better shot at beating Seattle/Green Bay in 2nd round?
For me, I’d rather Foles. Sanchez leads us to victory against dallas, Foles is healthy and starts against Washington, knocks the rust off and plays well; Giants game is a defacto bye week and Barkley starts with the 2nd string OL.
In my mind, I genuinky don’t believe there is any question in chips mind that Folea is his guy…. But Chip believes in his system of practice reps… Sanchez has been taking every rep the past month…we believe in our depth because of the rep system… Even if I’m right that Nick is 100%’chips guy, he won’t put FOles out there without him taking enough snaps to properly prepare.. I don’t see chip putting Nck in a playoff game haven’t played in over a month. I assume Nick needs ATleast 1’regular season game, preferable two, plus all the reps leading up to those games to see Chip put his young developing QB in a playoff game in front of our insane fans and media..
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If we were a smart fanbase, chip could risk it more..but he knows we are too stupid to take any real factors into account. If Nick doesn’t win the playoffs game, this city won’t care about the realistic circumstances, they would eat foles alive.
think sanchez is gone after this year. i think ck sees what we’re seeing — good against bad teams but not good enough to be good against good teams. i would love for us to get colin k. i don’t like him but ck could go crazy (run, has an arm, hard worker) and it’d be great competition for nick.
I’d bet FOles is the starter next year, and Sanche is back to back him up. Not sure about barkley but I wouldn’t be surprised if he was back too
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Think people are looking at the QB situatipn all wrong, but we’ll see
Yeah, all Eagles fans are stupid except for you.
Kill yourself because you don’t deserve to live.
I have no clue what the Eagles plan on doing with that roster spot…anyone hear anything bout it?
It’d be cool to see them move up Reynolds, but no, I haven’t seen anything about it.
Wouldn’t that have Probaly happened yesterday if it were going to happen? Also not sure if they would bring up another safety after recently adding Prosinski, but I certainly wouldn’t mind seeing Reynolds get some special team snaps
Just hoping. Maybe he’s showing up in practice and he might get some snaps. Best hope. This late in the season is usually when you see some rookie help, though on some bad teams. They’ve practiced all year and they can be given a couple snaps to see how they handle it (in certain situations).
That’s not Chip’s MO, but from my perspective I thought it would be cool. You’re probably right they are scouting someone to come in and do a specific thing.
I wouidn’t mind Joe Morgan…But only if Huff’s injury is more severe than previously thought.
They signed rookie safety from the Lions….Jerome Couplin. http://www.chiefsdigest.com/william-marys-couplin-hungry-for-nfl-shot/
Like most fans I get upset when national media disrespects us and doesn’t recognize our accomplishments…. But I have to admit, I enjoy being in December and flying under the radar, having everoneweit
If GB and Seattle win out, that puts us at #3 with AZ at #5 or #6. I’d prefer to play them rather than Detroit. When Dallas loses to us this week, it’ll be hard for them to beat Indy next week, essentially eliminating them from the playoffs unless Detroit or AZ completely fold over the next 3 weeks.
In this scenario, we’d travel to Seattle to play if we win our home game.
Did you guys hear London Fletcher rip Jim Haslett a new asshole? Look it up,mFletchers rant was awesome. Talks about how bad Haslett is, how he doesn’t understand how he can even still have a job coaching in the NFL.. How he would make calls and London would change the plays in the huddle, then Haslett would ask him why he changed the plays and he answered, because your play was stupid, I’m not running That LOL
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Pretty awesome to hear a rival coach destroyed like this. Look it up, it’s worth a laugh
I think Gruden thinks that Snyder is forcing him to play RG3 and he wants to get his opposition on the record. Rumor has it the players were happy to hear it. I don’t see it as a matter of Snyder letting Gruden do it as Gruden is playing chicken with Snyder, and if he gets sacked he’ll still get paid a lot of money and not have further association with the organization.
I said on this board that Shanahan was crazy to take the job and I think it was Tommy who said that he wanted to promote Kyle that way. After that mess they were planting stories in the press about how good Kyle was in Houston (‘remember?’) as if to rehabilitate his reputation and he seems to be doing better as Cleveland OC. Mike’s legacy has taken a hit.
I hear rumors that Jim Harbaugh may coach in Oakland and I think that’s crazy. Why? If he wants to stay on the West Coast he will come to dislike it soon enough.
Colt McCoy gettng injured and RG3 having to play against us is such an awesome Christmas gift. His teammates won’t play for him lol. That OL is not going to be fighting very hard to keep our ferocious front 7 from killing RG3… His teammates are going to check out and allow us to give RG3 a beating. It’s going to be glorious. Hopefully Desean plays too
IN 4 carer games vs, Eagles, Demarco Murray never rushed for more than 83 yards…
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If you look at The last 3 years, we hold him every year to a lower yard per carry than what he averages that year against the rest of the league
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In other words, Demarco has always been our BITCH! Can’t wait to see Cox and my front 7’go out and carry us to a dallas win, smashing Romo and Demarco
I would imagine that Dallas keeps in extra protection this time around. Either keeping in Murray or the aging TE to give Romo more time. If I’m Dallas, I’m thinking we can’t win using the run so it’s air it out time…Beasley!
Looks like the Eagles signed Safety Jerome Couplin from the Lions practice squad to fill Roc’s vacancy. http://www.chiefsdigest.com/william-marys-couplin-hungry-for-nfl-shot/
Now we have 13 safeties that can play ST, but not really provide much at safety, then again, I Can’t speak on this kid..not familiar with his game
i like it
Is this an indictment against Reynolds? Prosinski has been in the league for awhile, so I wasn’t looking at him as a replacement. This kid seems to have the size everyone is looking for. Is he raw, does he have speed, and is he a smart player?
I just edited it. guy is a freak w high upside.
This is good news, maybe we don’t need to address this in the draft if he’s got that type of talent. Now all we need to do is get him some reps.
I would love to think so but remember he was a udfa and didn’t get sign to an active roster until now.
It seems Tyler Phillips has answered my question.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/agoodman/2014/05/01/here-comes-the-next-nfl-superhero/
I hope he can play..
TL;DR version:
” Couplin has an 81 inch wingspan, which means that he can practically touch his knees when standing straight up. Coupled with his jumping ability, Couplin’s physical attributes are a defensive coordinator’s dream. To put it into perspective, Couplin can catch a football 13 feet in the air (the top of a basketball backboard), or dive for a football a car length away. His Pro day results in the 40 yard dash, three cone drill, and bench press numbers tied or beat the projected top two safeties in this year’s draft (Alabama’s Ha‘Sean “Ha-Ha” Clinton Dix and Louisville’s Calvin Pryor ). Couplin’s results in the standing broad jump are the best for a safety in the last 10 years at the combine and his vertical would have been first among safeties at this year’s combine.”
he’s a gorilla or something?
the articles make him sound like a Chip Man, hes got the size requirements, not a me me me guy and plays hard and smart… i like it!
Agreed!
“I’ve shown flashes of being a Pro Bowl-caliber quarterback, but what we’re looking for here is consistency. The best teams have consistent quarterback play and I realize that and that’s truly what I want to show to the fans and everyone outside the building” – gene smith.
Not to back track to far (it’s early in Hawaii…) so, we agree that it would be best for F0les to play vs WA and potentially vs NJ if we are in a tight seed race?
That way he is ready for the Post Season?