Chip Kelly Mans Up

Posted: January 29th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 205 Comments »

Chip Kelly finally found his man. Instead of hiring an outsider like Chris Grier or Chris Polian, Kelly went with a member of his current staff, Ed Marynowitz.

There is a lot of wisdom in this move. I said all along that Kelly would be looking for his version of Tom Heckert. Andy Reid hired Heckert when he was 33 going on 34 and had just enough experience. Kelly hires Marynowitz  (pronounced Man-o-witz) when he is about to turn 31 (Feb 27). Marynowitz has worked as a scouting assistant with the Dolphins and as a recruiting coordinator at UCF and Alabama. He came to the Eagles in 2012 and has worked with pro and college scouting.

Kelly and Marynowitz already have a relationship. Marynowitz already knows what Kelly is looking for in terms of players and intangibles. That eliminates some of the learning curve between the two men.

The downside is that Marynowitz lacks ideal experience. He has played or worked in football since he graduated high school, but that isn’t the same as working in NFL personnel for a decade. One of the ways you succeed in the NFL is by learning from failure. It takes time to learn those lessons. Marynowitz will be lacking in this area.

He and Kelly can lean on a veteran personnel executive like Rick Mueller (already on the Eagles staff). They can pick his brain when a strange situation comes up and they see flaws to both sides of whatever decision they’re trying to make.

I do think Marynowitz is a smart guy who has worked for some wise people. He worked around Bill Parcells in Miami back in 2007. He worked for George O’Leary for a couple of years. He then spent 3 years working for Nick Saban. Since coming to the Eagles, Marynowitz has worked with Andy Reid, Howie Roseman and Chip Kelly. In less than a decade, he’s been around some impressive football minds.

The Eagles will need to add a person or two to the personnel staff, but that will likely happen after the draft when contracts expire. Kelly and Marynowitz will have some names targeted and go get those people.

In an ideal world, I would have loved to see Brian Gaine (HOU) or Scott Fitterer (SEA) get the job, but Marynowitz could end up being the right guy. He knows how to identify talent. He knows Kelly and what he likes. Marynowitz will already have a feel for how to deal with Kelly and Roseman since he’s been around them for a couple of years. This is a bit of a tricky front office situation so hiring someone from the inside is a benefit in that regard.

Marynowitz now has to learn how to handle a position of authority at a young age. He did some of that at Bama so this won’t be totally new to him. He also saw what it was like to be the right hand man of a powerful coach in his time working for Saban. That should serve him well as he helps Kelly run the personnel side of things for the Eagles.

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Here is the story with quotes from Kelly, Lurie, Saban and of course…Marynowitz.


205 Comments on “Chip Kelly Mans Up”

  1. 1 Greg Richards said at 9:31 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    How the heck does someone decide that Marynowitz should be pronounced “MAN-O-WITZ”?

  2. 2 Mitchell said at 9:39 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Say it like a pirate. HAR HAR HAR

  3. 3 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 9:47 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Because he doesnt want to be called “Mary” lol

    I would say the same thing if it was me

  4. 4 Greg Richards said at 10:07 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    You wouldn’t pronounce it “Mar-e-no-witz”. To me, the obvious pronunciation is “Mar-in-o-witz”.

  5. 5 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 10:10 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Mar Y no witz

    The Y would make me think its an an E sound

    Dirk Nowitsky the W has a V sound

  6. 6 Iskar36 said at 10:42 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Have to wait for it until the end, but…

  7. 7 Sean Stott said at 11:50 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    My wife’s maiden name was Krzystofiak. Pronounced Chris-stove-iak. They’re Polish names, so you get about what you’d expect.

  8. 8 ICDogg said at 8:28 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Years ago I worked in an office with a guy named Frank Gwiscz, and you never knew how someone was going to spell or pronounce it next. He got a piece of mail where his name was longer, something like “Gwiyzcscz”, and I said to Frank “look how someone is spelling your name now!” and he said “oh, that’s from my sister. She still spells it the old way.”

  9. 9 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 9:49 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    I’ll judge this move like a draft… won’t know if its the right route until we travel down the road a bit.

    For all we know Gaines or Fitterer might have clashed with CK.

  10. 10 BobSmith77 said at 10:14 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Agreed. He was a still an organization role play player before and has almost no track record.

    Hard to say this is a good move or not because there is very little to base a decent opinion.

  11. 11 makarov123 said at 9:54 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    I’m encouraged by the decision. First, we know the work to date on this draft and FA crop won’t be torn up and redone. Second, we know Ed has been around a great (2012), good (2013), and what looks like a bad (2014) draft all while working for the Eagles. So, regardless if Ed was a little or a lot responsible for any of them, he’s been around much of the evaluation process the team has used as of late.

    What remains to be seen is how much authority Ed will have, and how much he needs to be effective at his job. That’s up to Chip Kelly, and would be a concern of mine whoever held the position or what their title turned out to be. Hopefully, Ed is the guy taking the calls from and making the calls to players’ agents on a daily basis, and personnel executives around the league.

  12. 12 mac said at 9:59 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Im glad the Eagles still interviewed around for this position. Rather than just give it to Marynowitz right away, any info & opinions you’re able to get on players from those other candidates is gonna be valuable.

  13. 13 A_T_G said at 11:44 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Reports are surfacing that Chip initially did not have a high opinion of Marynowitz, think him soft and dumb. As Chip gathered more information, though, he learned that his name was not pronounced Mary-no-wits, but was actually Man-o-wits. With this new information, Chip realized he was tougher and smarter than first thought.

    Just another example of Chip’s willingness to break from common conventions – training, nutrition, game planning, and now phonetics.

  14. 14 SteveH said at 11:45 PM on January 29th, 2015:

    Also demonstrates his ability to identify mistakes and adapt to the pro game.

  15. 15 Ray888 said at 12:19 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    No wonder Chip wanted to reshape the personnel department – he thought it was staffed my a Rose & a Mary!

  16. 16 Nicodemus_09 said at 5:00 PM on January 30th, 2015:

  17. 17 GEAGLE said at 12:57 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    This was always the guy they were going to hire. But what’s the rush? Chip was smart to take advantage to learn some of the going up and comers around the league for when we have openings Down the road or when these guys rise to power GM status and we have a relationship with them to do business.

    This is the time franchises let u talk to their candidates, chip took advantage and in the end, signed who he was always going to sign. This Gm search was a farce from the start

  18. 18 Avery Greene said at 9:28 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I would also think as they talked to people, if someone blew the doors off, then they would have hired them. I once got a job when someone else was in line for it because I did really well in the interview.

  19. 19 GEAGLE said at 9:42 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    absolutely… but we were really high on Marynowitz from the start, so it would have taken a unexpected candidate to really blow their minds to be higher over Marynowitz
    but a part of it really was data collection… Franchises in all sports do it…. heck look at the sixers, Brett Brown was always going to be the best man for this rebuilding job. Hinkie wanted Brett from the start, yet Hinkie interviewed 13 other candidates taking a month of his sweet time before announcing the signing of Brett Brown, all so he could use the access to other teams front office member and learn as much as he can… candidates interview for a job, and talk about what they would do…what the would do often comes from experience at their previous franchise, so not only can you get to know up and comers around the league who will eventually be GMs for teams that you can do business with, or once other front offices open, you already have some guys in mind who you would want to hire, while also finding out how other franchises do certain things

    but its absolutely possible that someone could have blown chips mind and taken Marynowitz job……

  20. 20 Mitchell said at 1:55 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Just watched me some Vince Mayle and you can color me impressed. Kinda like a poor man’s Coates except with better hands. Had 106 catches with almost 1500 yards. People will say he has a problem with drops but lets see how many drops you have when you are literally the only one the ball is getting thrown to!

  21. 21 D3FB said at 2:19 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Keep in mind with Wazzu passing stats it’s a Mike Leach offense. All they do is throw. They attempted to pass 771 times last year. To put that into perspective, Oregon attempted 474 passes. Wazzu attempted 64.3 passes per game. The next closest was ECU (also a Leach influenced Air Raid) attempted 49.2 per game.

  22. 22 Mitchell said at 9:56 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Thoughts on Laken Tomlinson?

  23. 23 D3FB said at 12:46 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Like him, good player, high character, but better fit in a more traditional offense.

  24. 24 Mitchell said at 1:42 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    mhmm mhmm. Do you think it would be a good idea to add a larger guy with some pure power for our run game? Or is the ability to pull and get to the second level so much more important in this offense, especially with Shady. On the other hand, wouldn’t it be nice to just have a guy with some athletic ability but is able to blow somebody out of the water of the line? Just curious.

  25. 25 D3FB said at 5:24 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    It’s a zone blocking scheme with lots of pulling and screens. Athleticism is first and foremost. Would it be nice to have 5 Jason Peters? Yea that would be pretty dope, but those guys go really high for a reason.

  26. 26 Mitchell said at 6:35 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I can’t even imagine what 5 28 year old Jason Peters would look like :O

  27. 27 Mitchell said at 6:36 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    So is Scherfs athleticism high enough? Is he kinda like a JP only at guard?

  28. 28 D3FB said at 9:57 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Going forward, yes. He’s not athletic enough to play tackle but does a good job of getting to the second level and getting out in space. But this is a shit class. He’s going to be long gone.

  29. 29 Mitchell said at 10:03 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Final question: would you take Tomlinson in the third or do you feel he is not even athletic enough to get to the second level?

  30. 30 D3FB said at 10:16 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Could he? Sure.
    Do I think he’s going to be an Eagles target? I would be shocked.
    I would value him around the 5th for the Eagles.

  31. 31 Mitchell said at 10:02 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    That is absolutely ridiculous though. Is Connor Holliday any good? Are you saying Mayle’s numbers Are vastly overrated? He looks like a Chip guy.

  32. 32 D3FB said at 12:54 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m saying that’s the danger of box score scouting. Unless you know the dynamics of a team, by just looking at what a guy puts up numbers wise. I’ll use stats to fill out a report, but it has little to no bearing on my evaluation.

    ODB (2013): 57 catches for 1117 yard, but LSU only threw 326 times.

    Halliday is an ok QB. Good guy by all reports. But needs to add a ton of weight, and has a ceiling of backup. Also shattered the heck out of his ankle in November, so who knows when he will be ready to play again. Also has no mobility. Wouldn’t mind having him as a UDFA.

  33. 33 Mitchell said at 1:39 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I meant how good is Halliday in regards to him throwing to Mayle? If Halliday is not very good but Mayle still played well, that goes in Mayle’s favor.

  34. 34 D3FB said at 5:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Halliday was a pretty good college QB, just limited as a pro prospect.

  35. 35 Mitchell said at 1:43 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Also, I didn’t just look at the box score, I watched him play and saw some good things, especially considering he only played 2 years.(?)

  36. 36 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 12:22 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Any Reid a Leach disciple too lol?

  37. 37 Outtenbucks said at 2:27 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I approve of this hire because he was born on the same day and in the same year as me. Time will tell if he is as successful.

  38. 38 GermanEagle said at 5:50 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Man, 31 years of age?! Oh boy did I think I was still in the mix at thirty six.

  39. 39 Eagles News: Marcus Mariota draws Aaron Rodgers comparison | said at 6:50 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    […] Chip Kelly Mans Up – Iggles BlitzThere is a lot of wisdom in this move. I said all along that Kelly would be looking for his version of Tom Heckert. Andy Reid hired Heckert when he was 33 going on 34 and had just enough experience. Kelly hires Marynowitz (pronounced Man-o-witz) when he is about to turn 31 (Feb 27). Marynowitz has worked as a scouting assistant with the Dolphins and as a recruiting coordinator at UCF and Alabama. He came to the Eagles in 2012 and has worked with pro and college scouting. Kelly and Marynowitz already have a relationship. Marynowitz already knows what Kelly is looking for in terms of players and intangibles. That eliminates some of the learning curve between the two men. […]

  40. 40 Daniel Norman Richwine said at 6:55 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I like he cut his teeth in the southeast. Balances Chips biases. He’ll personally know many coming rookies.

  41. 41 GermanEagle said at 6:59 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    The circle of trust…

  42. 42 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 12:24 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Howie will be blending those smooothies with dollar dollar bills lol

    somebody pay me 7 figures to make smoothies and I’m there!

  43. 43 D3FB said at 1:15 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    They should add to howie “is going to be the whipping boy in the short term for any moves that don’t work out”

  44. 44 GermanEagle said at 7:07 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    While his last name’s pronunciation might be ‘Man-o-Witz’, the more concerning fact is that “Witz” means “Joke” in German.

  45. 45 Dominik said at 7:53 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    While many Americans have problems with german names, I don’t want to start making fun of polish names.

  46. 46 ICDogg said at 9:07 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I have to admit when I first heard that Marynowitz was pronounced Manowitz, the image I got in my head was

  47. 47 GermanEagle said at 11:58 AM on January 30th, 2015:


  48. 48 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 12:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    so Dirk jokeki plays for the Mavs ,ha

    what does fitterer mean in german?

  49. 49 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:02 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I don’t understand who will be working the phones during free agency, negotiating trades, and trying to move up or down in the draft. Kelly has already admitted he would have made some picks that would be considered reaches. Marynowitz, who doesn’t have a GM title, is young and doesn’t have the respect of other GM’s around the league yet. Roseman is just a numbers cruncher now.

    You can say what you want about Roseman, but he was able to pull off some pretty good trades for us, move up and down the draft board, and was able to land some good free agents. I think a lot of that has to do with his relationship with the other GM’s and players agents.

    Theres a lot of uncertainty this offseason.

  50. 50 GEAGLE said at 8:17 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    doubt roseman was the only one working the phones and setting the draft board the last few years, assume he had plenty of help from his underlings,..wouldnt be surprised if Marynowitz has experience working the phones. Think of a telemarketer, who calls potential clients, once they agree to the preliminary parameters of the sale, the client will get transfered to a “closer” who steps in and finalizes the transaction….im sure Marynowitz has worked the phones, discussed deals and then passed them off at the last minute for howie to finalize them.
    marynowitz also has been around the block for his young age, so im sure he has some relationships with front office personnel league wide.

    Howie never set draft boards on his own, his underlings did alot of the work. Howie gathered all the info from his underlings and used their evaluations to set the draft board….. plus a kid like Marynowitz who has major ambition to climb the front office ladder, you know he paid real close attention to howie

    everyone acts like everything was howies doing…. when in reality a big part of howies job was to gather all the intel from his underlings and to make sense of the data…. i actually prefer a hungry up and comer to a washed up retread……..Marynowitz is just here to oversea the scouting department, gather all the data and make sure chip gets all the intel he needs when its time to make a decision..its not like he will be allowed to add a player chip hasnt signed of on….every play who joins the eagles, you can bet chip watched a ton of film on him, and now one joins the eagles without Chip signing off on it

    chips a very smart, detailed, thorough guy. For him to think so highly of Marynowitz, gives me confidence in the young man………..please dont believe the narrative that no one wanted to work for the eagles and we had to settle on this kid…. the eagles were legitimately high on this kid and he was always going to be hired for this job unless someone really unexpectedly blew them away in the interview process.

    this was always chips #1 choice, for chip to get HIS guy, this has to be considered a win for now, time will tell if that will prove true longterm

  51. 51 Dominik said at 8:34 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    “chips a very smart, detailed, thorough guy”

    I’d agree. But what’s your take on Chip admitting that he hasn’t watched a second of Jets film before he signed Sanchez? Chip argued he didn’t knew what plays were called etc., but he doesn’t know that when he watches a college game, either.

    Chip is unconventional. Like I said, I would agree that he’s very smart, detailed etc. But stories like that, I simply don’t know why he would work that way. Knowing him from HS and USC is fine, but why not look how he played in the NFL, how he threw into these tight windows he has to throw to for him in the future?

  52. 52 GEAGLE said at 8:59 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    i hear you on that, but im not 100% sure thats true, even if chip said it……also i assume there are some players around the league that he already knows their strengths and limitations real well from coaching them, agressively recruiting them, or having to game plan to stop them… its not like the sanchez signing blew up in chips face. Chip thought Mark could be one of the best backups in the NFL, and i think we saw that to be the case… its not like chip didnt watch Film so he made some enormous mistake.. he signed sanchez as one of the more capable backups and thats exactly what they want…. if he didnt watch tape on sanchez, he clearly didnt need to because sanchez brought exactly what we thought he would bring….
    think chip is more concerned with Raw ability, than how he sees a player perform in another offense… if the Raw ability is there, i assume chip believes he can develop raw ability and put in in position to pay dividends….. obviously chip knew sanchez really well..

    one thing i think holds true is chip is smart enough to know what he doesnt know, and when he doesnt know, his ego wont force him to pretend that he knows… chip will delegate responsibility when he thinks someone is more qualified than him

    if chip didnt watch tape, i cant be too mad about it, since his evaluation of sanchez turned out to be true, then again, just because Chip said he didnt watch him, i dont necessarily believe that

  53. 53 Andy Six Score and Four said at 10:29 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Upvote for the first sentence. I never believed that for a second.

  54. 54 Dominik said at 8:20 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The point about raw ability could be dead on. But I have to say: I don’t get it with QBs. At other positions, RB, WR, OL, CB etc., I get it. You see the tools and if the player has a good work ethic, he could pan out.

    But with QBs, the biggest difference between College and the NFL are the windows the QBs have to throw in. The Defenders are just way more athletic in the NFL, the windows are much tighter. So Chip could see on his College or even his High School tape that the arm strenght and the mobility is there, he knew he was a high character guy because of recruiting (I assume he knew). But without watching Jets tape, he couldn’t knew about the windows.

    Chip was right in the end, Sanchez was a good back-up. But the process of the evaluation – if you take Chip by his words and believe he didn’t watch Jets tape – I think could lead to some trouble in the future if he continues to work that way.

    I’m not saying: throw out the College tape, all that matters is the NFL. But Chip is a very smart man and I don’t get why you wouldn’t use every information that’s out there.

  55. 55 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 12:27 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    seemed to work out. Sanchez played better than expected. If Chip had watched the Jets tape he wouldn’t have signed him lol

  56. 56 MagOvertheRainbow said at 9:51 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Why do you suppose there are OCs, Assistant HCs, QB coaches,scouts, etc, etc? Chip didn’t have to watch Jets film. He has said repeatedly that he takes advice from others.

  57. 57 Dominik said at 8:05 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    When there were rumors leaked about Foles maybe not being the future of the Franchise during the season Chip asked the reporter: who did tell you that? Because it wasn’t me and that’s my decision.

    Do you really think it wasn’t his decision based on HIS evaluation to bring Sanchez in as back-up QB? We can debate Defense all we want, but Chip was always the one making the decisions on offense. That’s his baby. Especially important decisions. And back-up QB is kind of important since Foles did have durability problems since he got here.

  58. 58 MagOvertheRainbow said at 9:49 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Every personnel director/general manager started from somewhere.

  59. 59 Dominik said at 8:06 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Marynowitz seems like a very smart guy. Kind of everyone who spend time with him and said something about the hire said that.

    He worked close with one of the brightest minds in football (Saban). We all can’t really know, but I do trust him with talent evaluation. He did this at Alabama and now for three years with the Eagles.

    However, Chip now has the full responsibility of learning everything about draft and trade value. Marynowitz has no clue about that, he never had anything to do with this. He may have seen it with Howie, but that’s not the same thing as executing it. If he’s as smart as everyone says he is, he will learn it. But that doesn’t help us in 2015 or 2016, only further down the road.

    We simply can’t draft players who will be there in the second round in the first, we can’t draft 5th rounders in the third. You will never go to the SB if you constantly over draft.
    We can’t trade a 4th or even a 3rd rounder instead of a 5th rounder for a player like Sproles only because the other GM is playing hardball (and god knows they will with a rookie GM).

    Chip needs to call his friend Belichick and other GMs he knows and respects around the league and just learn, learn, learn about value. Clearly he didn’t know anything about value in the last draft, he just saw players he liked and players he didn’t like.

    If Chip learns about value, Marynowitz can be a great hire. Young, talented up and comer, smart, with experience in player evaluation. Sadly, no real connections in the league, but hey, has to build those.

  60. 60 Andy Six Score and Four said at 8:16 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    We simply can’t draft players who will be there in the second round in the first, we can’t draft 5th rounders in the third.
    If the guys pan out, it really doesn’t matter where you draft them. If the guy you picked in the 3rd becomes a solid contributor, then who cares if you could have had him in the 5th. You got a solid contributor in the 3rd so that’s a win. It means you were right and everybody else was wrong. The key isn’t knowing what other teams think, the key is to be right when they’re wrong.

    Now I’m just rambling, but I already typed it so:
    There’s a risk/reward element to gambling on when other teams are going to take a player you like and there’s no right or wrong way to play that game. In the end, hitting on and developing more of your picks than the opponent is all that matters, and correctly gauging other teams’ value of a pick in only a very, very minor factor in that.

  61. 61 Dominik said at 8:24 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Well, Andy, if you assume that the other 31 teams aren’t extremely stupid, it’s just a matter of probability.

    If you think Hart is a good player (and I’m not saying he isn’t) and you can get him in the 5th, that means you have a better chance of landing a solid player in round 3 and 4 than in round 4 and 5. It’s a numbers game in the end.

    Now, if you hit on all your first, second and third round picks, it doesn’t matter in the end, because you can’t expect more than 3 good players out of a draft class, everything else is a bonus. But that’s not going to happen.

  62. 62 bill said at 8:54 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I think the key here is Chip’s confidence in his ability to maximize the odds, through coaching, sports science, etc., that the guys he wants will be successful. Thus, his “tiers” look a lot different than someone who does the evaluation the traditional way.

    So, once again, it all hinges on whether Chip is the outlier or if he’s just another coach with an ego bigger than his ability. For now, I’m okay with doubling down on the Chip Kelly = genius bet. But I won’t pretend that it isn’t a high risk bet at this point. Boom or bust.

  63. 63 ICDogg said at 9:58 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    If it’s really a numbers game you trade down and just get lots of picks and some of them will turn out to be good, and some won’t, and you just keep the ones who are good.

    (But it’s more than a numbers game).

  64. 64 Andy Six Score and Four said at 10:13 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Re: Your second paragraph
    That’s all well and good, but that’s where the risk/reward that I already mentioned comes in. The guy you think you can get in the 5th isn’t always going to be there in the 5th. So if you didn’t take the highest rated guy on your board at the time because you thought he’d fall, well then you end up with a lesser haul. And even if you’re dead on balls accurate about the intentions of 30 other teams, you only have to be wrong about 1. So sometimes you end up with a better haul and sometimes you won’t. That’s what I meant when I said there is not right or wrong way to play that game. You just have to be right more than your opponents.

    They clearly had several OL in mind they thought would fall to them in round 3. Didn’t happen. I think they thought Cooks or Dix would fall to them. Didn’t happen. They were correct about how far they could move back and land Smith II. If he doesn’t pan out, then it didn’t matter. All that matters is identifying the rights guys and successfully developing them.

    This whole overdraft/underdraft thing is a construct of the subconscious mind to allow us to feel confident: a vestigial survival trait.

  65. 65 Dominik said at 8:11 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    “That’s what I meant when I said there is no right or wrong way to play
    that game. You just have to be right more than your opponents.”

    Well, I’m not saying that’s not right. I’m just saying it increases the odds of picking good players if you don’t pick them two rounds earlier than other teams would. We basically got Huff or Watkins (reports aren’t clear on that one) because we waited for Hart. Now, Huff or Watkins may not pan out, but we thought higher of them than of many other players, obviously, since we picked them. And we still got the player we wanted in Hart.

    Now I know it doesn’t always work that way, you’re right. But I think you are better off losing one or two players you like compared to overdrafting guys who would be there later.

  66. 66 ICDogg said at 8:38 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    We always bring up Tom Brady as an example, but imagine that Cleveland had taken him in the first round that year. And everyone would have complained that they could have had him in the 6th. But it would have totally transformed that franchise and you wouldn’t have this.

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 8:48 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    people also need to remember that there arent an exact number of 1st round prospects, 2nd round prospects, 3rd round prospects in each draft… just because 31 teams have a pick in each round, doesnt mean there are 31 prospects with 1st round draft games…
    so while its fun to say we better get a first round talent in round 1, the reality of the situation is that when we get to #20, there might not be any players with first round grades left, and we will be forced to chose between second round prospects… at that poin you can either take a second round talent at #20, or you can trade back once of twice, pick up two extra 3rd round picks, and make your first pick in the top 5 of round two…. if you arent going to be able to add a first round prospect, might as well move back and get some extra picks out of the deal..

    hopefully at pick 20 we see an unexpected first round talent available on the board like Danny Shelton, Bud Dupree, Brandon Sherf…but if some first round stud doesnt fall to 20, hopefully we trade back once and draft kendricks, or trade back twice and make your first pick in the top of round 2…. we wouldnt have a first round pick but we would have
    2 second round picks
    3 third round picks
    2 fourth round picks

    who knows, maybe they get creative and trade a 2016 1st round pick for say the 12th pick in the second round, assuming if we take care of business or 1st round pick next year will be in the 27-28 range which means we most likely will be choosing from a pool of second round prospects anyway

    we can also Flip Curry for a late 2nd or early 3rd round pick
    i really really want Shelton, and thats just because i see him as special?rare type of athletic Behemoth. im not at all concerned that he was gassed at senior bowl practices.. why would i care about that? ever see a chip kelly practice? if the kid gets drafted by the eagles, our practice style would mean the get has no choice but to get into “Eagle shape”… and if that 340 lb monster is exploding for 9 sacks while being in questionable shape, what type of beast will he be once he gets into Eagle shape?

    now dont take my love for shelton as me thinking we need a NT. Im thrilled to go into the next 7 years with Logan and Beau anchoring our defense at NT… if we cant get shelton, i dont want us to draft any other NT’s…. for example UCLA’s ellis McCarthy is a very talented Big Boy NT who could end up in round 2… but if we miss out on Shelton, i wont want to go draft McCarthy…..we dont need any NT, but if a special rare 340lber that can move becomes available, i would jump right on it, and move Logan to DE, and have Beau backup Shelton

    but if we cant get shelton, id rather not draft any defensive lineman…. rather wait til next year to take tall, long, hard working Oregon DE Deforrest Buckner. I think once he enters the draft, chip will be very interested in landing him… he plays with the motor and tenacity i keep waiting for Arik Armstead to show

    if we are fortunate enough to get a monster like Shelton, our starting front 3 would be ELITE:

    thats like an average of 320lbs per lineman. with a monster DL like that, we can go with a smaller athletic ILB like Kendricks, and that front line will keep blockers off the kendrick brothers and allow them to fly around untouched making plays
    a beastly front 7 like that would be a HUGE help to our secondary. those 3 monsters would anchore a bully front 7 who can shut down run games without needing safeties to help against the run, so both safeties can focus on making sure they help the corners….

    improve your front 7, so that you can stop the run without safety support and the safeties can give the corners the help they need, improve the front 7 pass rush, and the corners wont have to cover their man as long…. so we can not add any free agent CBs, but addressing other positions could help CBs play better than they have..

    i want Danny Shelton!!! thats my baby Marcel Dareus right there!!! #pipedream….. he wont fall to 20, but if he gets to 16-17, id trade up to secure him….

    if we cant get a player we didnt expect to fall to 20 like shelton or bud Dupree, i would hope we trade back…

  68. 68 wee2424 said at 9:24 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Is Logan fast enough to play DE? He would have to play contain on outside runs, and be able to try and chase RB from behind at times. Thorton isnt exactly athletic either but he does get the job done. If Logan can handle this, do you think he would be much of an upgrade over Thorton out there?

  69. 69 GEAGLE said at 9:29 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    logan played some DE this year…. you can find bunch of plays the second half of the season when Bennie and Beau were on the field together…Logan at DE, and Beau at NT….Logan has already proven he can play DE

  70. 70 wee2424 said at 1:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Im assuming he came in on goal line and definite running situations. As long as he has the latteral quickness then i also beleive he would be an upgrade over Thorton. In years and years i have never missed a Birds game untill this past year when work took me to Florida, therefore there are some small things i have missed albeit still being able to see the majority of games.

  71. 71 GEAGLE said at 6:55 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    logan is a rare NT that can also get after a QB when he drops back to pass. he isnt one of those NTs that if the opponent is passing he becomes a waste of space.
    heck just go watch Logan defend those zone stretch plays that the skins, cowboys, and various teams tried to run against us this year..Logans lateral ability to defend that zone stretch run is pretty impressive for a NT. plus when he lines up at DE in a 3-4, we still have OLBs lined up outside of him in charge of setting the edge, not letting the opponent get outside and funnel the ball carrier back inside to Logan

    keep in mind he is only like what 15lbs heavier than Cedrick?

    when i have this discussions please dont take it as me not valuing cedrick Thornton, because i think the world of Ced, and honestly i would be perfectly happy having Ced, Logan and Cox as my starting line for the next 5 years…

    the only reasons to have this discussion is:

    1) In case that RARE Halti Ngata comes around. Chip talked about how he would love one of those guys but reminds everyone that there arent many 340lb men in the world that can really move like Haloti, Marcel Dareus, Dontari Poe…. but i dont care how great our DL, if we have a chance at this type of player in the next few years we will be fools not to add him. I geniuly believe Ced,Logan and Cox can be one of the very best young DL in the league, but if we have a chance at a Rare behemoth it can really transcend our DL into scary status…. Not to mention we can go with two Faster ILBs that can fly around making plays, while also being able to stop the run without safety help so the safeties can always worry about have the cornerbacks back no pun…

    2) From a roster building stand point(something i talk about alot this time of year), we are about to have to make Cox a well paid young man, and he deserves every penny of the significant investment we make, keeping him here. Best DT this city seen since JEROME! Logan we have for 2 more years on a cheap rookie deal but he is a talented, high working, high charecter kid who can play NT and DE who we will undoubtably keep long term. dont even think people get how exciting it is to see a NT play so damn well in year two, i expect a big leap in play next year. Fortunately, our back ups like logan are cheap rookie deals for the most part…. so in Theory we can pay Cedrick AND Cox, and we probably will end up doing so, but Ced should make some decent money.. however, if a rare young monster NT becomes available when we draft, it would also add to our financial flexability by replacing Ced who will make solid veteran money, with a rookie contract, especially a first rounder who you get the 5th year option on

    Basically the only real reason you see me talking about considering to replace Ced is because there is a kid in this draft who i think can be one of these special big boys..for a man his size, his explosion off the snap was mouth watering..The more danny shelton i see the more i drool… now there will be another NT who i think can be a very nice player available in round two for UCLA, but we dont NEED a NT, but if we have a chance to add a SPECIAL NT, we be foolish not to make room for him,…so if we cant get Danny, im full steam ahead with Cedrick Thornton… of course Danny Shelton lasting til 20 isnt something thats very likely

  72. 72 wee2424 said at 12:49 AM on February 1st, 2015:

    I understand your whole concept of this possible scenario you are talking about. I know you are not devaluing Ced. Ced is a good player and i do agree with what you are saying. Our Dline is very good, but with a truely special talent at NT it would take it over the top. In regards to the comment about Logan getting after the QB i think alot of people would disagree with due to sack numbers. However you do have to look at it deeper then that. Logan has quick feet and a good initial burst, he is also faster then your average NT. I think if this were more of a 1 gap system his sack numbers would impress for a NT. He is a very talented NT in that he has the quickness/speed for 1 gap, but for a slightly undersized NT he has the strength and fundamentals to be an extremly good 2 gap NT as well.

  73. 73 Mitchell said at 9:55 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    You know who shut down Shelton at the senior bowl? Laken Tomlinson. Tomlinson shut down a lot of people from what I saw.

  74. 74 GEAGLE said at 10:01 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I like his game.. Waiting for the combine to figure out my OL rankings outside of Round 1

  75. 75 Weapon Y said at 12:42 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Right. Don’t be too cute and let the guy you really want be taken earlier than you think he will be. Would Eagles fans be complaining if Jordan Matthews was the first round pick and someone like Chris Borland, the LB from SF who played really well, in the second round (he was a third round pick)? I think not. Just take the guys you think are the best.

  76. 76 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:18 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I have the same concerns. We have a coach that doesn’t understand the draft and his young assistant that every GM will try to fleece.

  77. 77 wee2424 said at 9:15 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Lol why do you think that is going to happen? Just because he is young? Yeah im sure they hired someone that is just going to get slamed on constantly. Really man?

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 9:27 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    we have drafted well since chip has arrived in philly, and chip is the one who has been choosing all the players these last two years

  79. 79 Andy Six Score and Four said at 10:28 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Doesn’t understand the draft? You think he doesn’t understand the concept of maximizing the value of your picks? Do you think Dominik’s point about getting better players by taking in to account other teams’ picks is over his head or hasn’t occured to him? Does he need to wear Velcro sneakers too? The guy isn’t a dimwit. He may have a completely different philosophy about how to approach it than you or I do, but let’s not go insulting the man’s intelligence or making something out to be more complicated than it really is.

  80. 80 D3FB said at 1:11 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    You want him to call Bellicheck to learn about value? The same Bellicheck who takes some late day three guy in the second or third? And the annually winner of the stump ESPN’s video department because he drafted a guy nobody has heard of.

  81. 81 anon said at 1:57 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I think Beli realizes that if, especially when you are picking late every year, better to just throw darts at a board

  82. 82 ACViking said at 2:09 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Belichick on Belichick.

    Relentlessly great.

  83. 83 Dominik said at 9:09 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I know, I know. On the other hand, he’s also the guy who drafted McCourty (end of 1st round), Jamie Collins (end of 2nd round), Chandler Jones (end of 1st), Edelman (7th) etc.

    He can’t draft a outside WR for the life of his mother, that’s for sure. But despite of some rather strange choices, he’s a veteran in the draft business.

    I don’t care where Chip learns about value, but he has to. Being a great HC doesn’t mean that you’re a good GM. Chip has to prove that he’s a good GM and value in draft in trades is part of being a good GM, imho.

  84. 84 Andy Six Score and Four said at 8:08 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Bonus points: Always good for organizational morale to see young, talented guys getting promoted to fill upper level vacancies. If they just fill every upper level position with outside hires, everybody starts to feel like there’s no chance for advancement and will start looking elsewhere for opportunities and potentially become demotivated at work.

    Unless one of the external candidates was drastically more talented, and please don’t pretend like anybody actually knows if that’s the case, promoting from within was the way to go.

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 8:23 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    dont you love people having the audacity to pretend they have close to enough info to be able to offer a worth while opinion? for someone to have an opinion they would have to have a really good understanding on every single candidate, which no one here has lol… some times its ok to say “i dont know enough to speak on it”, or take the “wait and see approach”…. i wonder how everyone is reaching their conclusion on who they want to see get the job lol… how are they reaching these conclusions without half of the intel needed to make such a decision? are they picking the candidate with the coolest name? the candidate who has worked under the sexiest most respected names? everyone has an opinion on who we should have hired, yet no one even has close to enough info to offer any type of accurate opinion..

  86. 86 wee2424 said at 9:13 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    You didnt have a favorite for whom you wanted? You didnt want Fitterer for obvious reasons?

  87. 87 GEAGLE said at 9:23 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    no,,, how can i have a favorite if i dont know all the candidates well enough?
    plus i found out weeks ago that it would be Marynowitz, so you cant find any posts of me, saying i want a certain candidate, when only a blowhard would pretend to even have close to enough info and understanding of all the candidates to have a favorite in this race…

    i post a bunch of times every day, yet you wont find one comment with me pretending that i know who the best candidate for this job was… i posted that i knew it would be Marynowitz, but thats because i was told that, not because i neccessarily thought he was the best man for the job… im not qualified to speak on who would have been the best man for this job

  88. 88 wee2424 said at 1:20 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Relax. im not coming at you. My point was that we ALL have limited information, but with that we still have the right to claim a favorite. Mine was Fitterer due to what appears to be a good eye for defensive talent, and he would know winning ways coming from a winning organization. There is no foolishness in having a favorite as long as you have some info to base on. What is foolish is saying a canidate will fail based on limited info, unless it is rock solid info, in which none of us have. You took this the wrong way and way too personal.

  89. 89 GEAGLE said at 6:30 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    why does everyone always tell me to relax at the moments when im the most calm? YOU REALLY think im passionate enough about this topic to give a fuck and get hype? lol ok….

    my tone is usually the same, get used to it, and know that if you dont insult me, im probably not attacking you and you are interpretting my tone wrong. enjy your day

  90. 90 RobNE said at 8:44 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I still don’t understand why we moved a guy with a lot of experience in the draft and trades etc., and now replaced him with someone who has what 3 years experience in the NFL and whose biggest claim to fame is college recruiting where there is not the same limited number of resources (i.e., draft picks and salary cap). The only reason seems to be that Chip doesn’t like or doesn’t want to work with Howie.

    This of course may all work out, and of course I don’t know what happened or who these guys really are, but I’m not going to claim I think this is impressive.

    That said, I hope to hell this guy is fantastic and we win multiple SB’s.

  91. 91 Ark87 said at 8:51 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I have no idea anymore, I’m buckled up, this is either going to be really fun or really terrifying, or a bit of both.

  92. 92 Avery Greene said at 9:23 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Marynowitz butted heads with Howie too. Chip isn’t the only one.

  93. 93 Brandon Schlosser said at 8:46 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    So did Howie have to draw up the contract?

  94. 94 GEAGLE said at 9:04 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    he was busy figuring out as the new equipment manager, how he can deflate the balls on game day better than the patriots

    LOL @ Bellichek being called to testify at the hernandez murder trail…LOL Bellicheat!!!!

  95. 95 RobNE said at 9:24 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    while he is on the stand under oath, the defense should ask about Spygate! They should say they are asking to establish whether the witness is credible and should be believed. Where’s ACV maybe we can finally get some answers.

  96. 96 GEAGLE said at 9:24 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    hahahah THAT would be so awesome… arrest his ass for perjury on the stand

  97. 97 ICDogg said at 8:48 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    From all the praise we were hearing about Marynowitz it seemed like just a matter of time before he was either promoted here or jumped ship to a higher position elsewhere.

  98. 98 RobNE said at 9:01 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Most people have a big incentive to say nice things about him. Access, etc. Maybe what they are saying are true, but I wouldn’t expect many people to say bad things.

  99. 99 ICDogg said at 9:10 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    They were saying it before he got promoted. So it wasn’t that much incentive.

  100. 100 RobNE said at 11:39 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    fair enough but I don’t think people are quick to bash people they think are on the way up. Maybe in the media today I am wrong.

  101. 101 ICDogg said at 11:57 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    No, but some of these guys were rather effusive. Made me think that he was a serious candidate for the job.

  102. 102 EagleNebula said at 12:55 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    True, but it isn’t just that he was praised, it is the nature of the praise. If they were just saying “he is a good football guy” then I would be less inclined to think much of it. Outsiders calling him a rising star seems to be more of an indication that they think he will do a good job. I guess I take no praise as a bad sign, mild paise as no sign or average, and excessive as better than average once you fit it to the curve.

    Proof I have been in academia too long – I am judging praise grading on a curve…

  103. 103 ICDogg said at 9:49 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Gronk and Marshawn on Conan playing Mortal Kombat X

  104. 104 Kelce's Beard said at 5:27 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    that clip was incredible

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 9:57 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Lol @ Goodell having to do a press conference today at 1:30. Which means he will talk a lot, but he won’t be saying much… Wonder who gives the media more Lynch or Goodell?
    The media better badger this jerkoff if he insults our intelligence with Lies and isn’t willinf to answer anything…. Hoping the media blitzkrieg the hell out of him and launches a full scale, “we demand answers” assult on this dirty, lying scumbag. Media better not let this prick off the hook
    Damn wing bowl winner at 440 wings in 30minuyes at like
    6am…. LOL dude must feel like shit right now

  106. 106 ICDogg said at 10:03 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Chris Christie’s appearance at the Wing Bowl

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 6:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    lol google Chris christie falling off chair video… WIP posted it on its webpage today… he was at WIP months ago and fell off a chair, they video taped it and finally posted it today… i watched that disgusting slob fall like 10 times in a row

  108. 108 unhinged said at 10:22 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    If Marynowitz is an ideal fit, what was the 3 week search for? A more ideal fit? Kelly doesn’t owe anybody an explanation, but Nova Care Center is a soap opera set, with the newly named VP of Player Personnel, who was originally hired by the spurned-but-not-gone former GM, who, before Kelly was brought in, hired Tom Gamble, who was summarily fired by the same GM after the GM and Kelly had a tete a tete. Roseman or some insider needs to write a book – preferably after a SB win – telling what was really going on. I still believe that Lurie trusts Roseman above all others, and that Roseman will return as a GM. If he lays low and contributes where only he can, and Kelly delivers a championship, his seat in the Eagles hierarchy can only be strengthened.

  109. 109 b3nz0z said at 10:34 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    due diligence. if he hired the dude straight out, he’d be shortchanging himself and opening himself up to criticism (“oh Chip drafts Oregon guys and promotes people in-house cuz he hates winning” or whatever).

  110. 110 Andy Six Score and Four said at 10:35 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    I had to fill a position this past year. First guy I interviewed was great. Would have been thrilled to bring him on board. But we didn’t stop the process. We interviewed all the qualified applicants and went through the full process. Turns out one of the other guys was even better. He’s turned out to be a great hire. Just because you like a guy doesn’t mean you don’t give everybody else a chance to knock your socks off.

    There’s also Geagle’s points about taking the opportunity to build connections with other executives via the interviews.

    Then there’s the conspiracy theories about not wanting to alienate Howie, or to appease Lurie etc.

    Then there’s just plain old due diligence which pretty much covers most of the above.

  111. 111 ACViking said at 11:29 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Re: Belichick on the Stand

    RobNE says that, to test Belichick’s credibility, the lawyer conducting cross-examination should delve into Spygate.

    Should s/he?

    Great question. Would love to put that on both an Evidence and Trial-Tactics test.

    Since the trial’s on the Pats’ home-turf, I’m sure — tactically — that whoever is cross-examining Belichick will want to treat him with courtesy. If asking him about Spygate may alienate a few jurors from agreeing with the side doing the X-examining, then likely no chance.

    On the other hand, Belichick did comment about Spygate this week — voluntarily.

    So asking him to expand on some of those remarks — for the purpose of pushing the inference that he’s not a particularly good judge of right and wrong, inclined to shade things to his advantage — would seem to be fair game. Done professionally. Gently. And acknowledging the RINGS.

    It’s a possible line of questioning (assuming the judge allows it).

    But, given the trial’s location, and Belichick’s general standing in the New England community, that’s a tough call. Really depends on how the trial’s going for the side that does *not* call him to testify.

  112. 112 RobNE said at 11:38 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    why can’t evidence be used to impeach him? I thought it could, if the evidence was merely for impeachment and not to prove the underlying facts. So I could use evidence to say “Belicheat’s a liar” but not to prove Spygate.

  113. 113 ACViking said at 11:49 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Excellent question.

    The rule generally is that extrinsic evidence — proof from a source other than the witness’s own testimony — cannot be used to impeach the witness on a topic collateral to the issues at trial.

    Extrinsic evidence is, however, always admissible to prove bias or that a witness is dissembling about some issue in the case.

    So here, the trial’s about whether Hernandez committed murder.

    If Belichick were called to testify about Hernandez’s whereabouts or character for violence, then other evidence contradicting Belichick’s testimony on these topics would be okay.

    But if, while testifying, Belichick is asked about Sypgate, that topic would be considered collateral to the trial.

    Proving the contours of Spygate — assuming Belichick lied about it under oath — would essentially be a rabbit trail insofar as Hernandez’s guilt is concerned.

    Courts do not want to have “mini-trials” about issues far removed from the case.

  114. 114 RobNE said at 11:51 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    fair enough. Seems too hard to prove anyway. But given that Hernandez is toast, I think defense attorney should ask a couple of questions on Deflate-gate and Spygate to just make Belicheat squirm. I don’t expect any type of I ordered the code red!! admissions.

  115. 115 ACViking said at 11:52 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Your evidence instincts are right on.

    It’s one of the hardest areas of practice.

    My compliments.

  116. 116 ICDogg said at 11:56 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    Good way to piss off a judge, I would think

  117. 117 RobNE said at 12:06 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    this is from an Eagles fan. I am not trying to win the case or get in good graces with the judge.

  118. 118 ICDogg said at 12:21 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Ah, but if you were the defense attorney you certainly would be

  119. 119 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:10 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Many repeat offenders, like those who have smashed their wives over and over again, for instance, have had their previous history precluded from the prosecutors line of questioning.

  120. 120 ACViking said at 5:54 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    that’s a different — though related — issue.

    in cases where repeat offenses are alleged, like domestic battery, prior instances are excluded to prevent a jury from concluding the defendant has a “propensity” for committing the charged offense, i.e., he acted in conformity with past behavior.

    however, prior similar conduct is admissible to show the existence of a scheme, modus operandi, intent, knowledge.

    those exceptions wouldn’t apply in a domestic battery case — unless the defendant is claiming he didn’t know he was hitting his wife/significant other, for example.

  121. 121 anon said at 6:05 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    should have been on this blog when i was studying for the bar. You’re way better than BarBri.

  122. 122 MagOvertheRainbow said at 9:40 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Unfortunately I have observed reports of prior convictions being unmentionable even for traffic offenses, where the accused can only be fined as if a first-time offender, although his licence had been suspended years ago and he has been caught drunk driving numerous times. It seems to apply in Family Court as well, as judges keep giving children back to the people who have REPEATEDLY beaten, starved and/or sexually abused them. It seems that scoring points while debating the minutae of the law has become far more important than people. In both of our countries, the Supreme Courts have become the law makers, rather than interpreters, when the legislators are supposed to be enacting law. And the ludicrous concept that so-and-so political hack judge ruled blah-blah 57 years ago, in a courtroom far, far away, means that the current situation must be ruled exactly the same way. Follow like sheep. End of rant.

  123. 123 bill said at 12:10 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    As the prosecutor, I would object *immediately* on the line of questioning as irrelevant. It’s probably skirting the line of argumentative as the questioning continues, too. I’m thinking you’re spot on, too, that the fact this is going to be a NE judge in charge, he’s not going to have much tolerance, if any, for this line of questioning. They seem to all be true believers up there these days. They bought Belicheck’s “science-y” explanation hook, line and sinker (I know, I have a lot of friends up there still and get a lecture on the ideal gas law every time I’ve talked to any of them since – and most of these people are chemists and biologists, who should know better).

    It’s too bad this isn’t a civil trial where they could be holding pre-trial depositions, where it would be easier to argue that this line of questioning is of the sort that could lead to relevant evidence.

  124. 124 GEAGLE said at 6:22 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    te lo detto settimane fa che davono il lavaro a marynowitz e che la ricerca era una cazzatta….

  125. 125 Cafone said at 11:50 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    This isn’t a hire we can really judge until after the draft and free agency.

    I do find it ironic that, if Chip really wants Mariota, Howie Roseman would have been the most qualified guy to make those trades happen. Who arranges trades now? Kelly? Marynowitz? Do we know yet?

  126. 126 ICDogg said at 11:59 AM on January 30th, 2015:

    We don’t know yet. Could be either one, or maybe they’ll be bringing someone else into the mix.

  127. 127 EagleNebula said at 12:44 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Maybe it’s a sign that the rumors of him coveting Mariota to such an extreme are overblown…

  128. 128 GEAGLE said at 5:53 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Like I aud, Chip is trying to help Marriotta get drafted as high as possible, instead of trying to AQUIRE Marriotta like all the media morons have led everyone to believe as if it’s reality….the same idiots who talk about chip trading up for Marriotta every day, are the same exact morons that had YALL believing that a QB would be traded because he didn’t run fast enough for chip kelly, as if we are talking about punt returners instead of QBs
    Every single offseason local media invents some bullshit narrative that couldn’t be further from Reality, And they make our FANBASE believe it, TIL we spend months talkimg about something that just isn’t true…

    Hopefully one of these Offseasons fans wake up and realize that our local media doesn’t know an any more than we do… Yet we look to these hacks as some authority that actually has a clue what the eagles really plan on doing.

    Media hasn’t been right yet, but for some reason everyone continues to believe them, I guess people aren’t familiar with the story Of the boy that cried wolf

  129. 129 philliesfan123 said at 1:39 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Here is a small excerpt from the above article – ” Marynowitz is a smart guy who has worked for some wise people. Marynowitz has worked with Andy Reid, Howie Roseman and Chip Kelly. In less than a decade, he’s been around some impressive football minds. ” Not for nothing, but Marynowitz primary job is player evaluation and scouting. As far as any ” knowledge ” that Marynowitz could have gleaned from those above mentioned ” impressive football minds “, let me remind you of a few, very important facts. # 1 ) Andy Reid orchestrated some of the most horrific drafts that the Eagles have ever had. # 2 ) Howie Roseman, was just unceremoniously ( demoted / promoted ) out of the player personnel department, by his biggest fan, Eagles owner Jeffery Lurie. # 3 ) Chip Kelly has ( less ) time and experience working in the NFL than Marynowitz has. So given those facts, how much ” quality knowledge ” about player evaluation and scouting, could Marynowitz have gotten from those above mentioned ” football people ? ” Football administration knowledge, yes …… player evaluation knowledge …… not from those above mentioned men. I contend that Marynowitz has learned 90 % of what he has learned about ” NFL ” player evaluations from, Tom Gamble, Anthony Patch and Rick Mueller. Also, just a small side note, Marynowitz was just promoted over Anthony Patch and Rick Muller, who each, just so happen to have about 4 times as much NFL player evaluation experience than he does. How excited do you think Mueller and Patch are to have Marynowitz ” lean on them ” for assistance and help, as Lawlor suggests ? Just saying.

  130. 130 philliesfan123 said at 1:41 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Ps – Yes I used , ( ) , …… , # , ” “, within my post.

  131. 131 anon said at 1:50 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I think the hiring is what it is. Kelly is picking players, that just is what it is. Marynowitz is just managing and taking Kelly’s message to the troops.

  132. 132 RobNE said at 2:14 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    so Muller and Patch will leave?

  133. 133 philliesfan123 said at 3:42 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Not saying that, but I just wanted to bring that to peoples attention. It is a fact that seems to be lost on the local and National NFL reporters. It can not be, too easy for those player personnel veterans to be passed over for a guy who is considerably less experienced ( dare I say – less qualified – some will criticize me for using that term ) than them. Anthony Patch – the Eagles, current Director of college scouting, has been with the team since 2002. He has worked within the Eagles player personnel department longer than any other person. He worked in player personnel before Howie Roseman, and watched him get ( rushed along ) promoted over him also. This is the second time, that he had to sit by and watch someone join the player personnel department, only to get promoted over him within several years. Remember, this does not just effect his morale, there are other employees watching how he got treated, and wondering how much they are being appreciated based off of their experience and team loyalty ? Just something to consider, when thinking about how well the Eagles personnel department will function going forward. Patch worked for the Eagles player personnel department for 10 years prior to Marynowitz getting hired. Now three years later marynowitz is his boss ? I’m just wondering …. how would anyone feel ? That doesn’t mean that patch should have got the job, but there is a history of this happening within the Eagles player personnel department. Ask Ryan Grigson , Jason Licht, Louis Riddick, etc.

  134. 134 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:07 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    You should not project yourself onto others. The various people you have named might be quite happy with their current jobs. After all, they have stuck to these jobs, with the Eagles, for years. Not every Foreman wants the General Foreman’s job. It’s like the hundreds of coaches who do not want the endless hassles of the HC job. They are quite happy being the DC, like leBeau, for instance, or Singletary. It’s what they do best. People in the NFL give salaries and respect to scouts or position coaches or even trainers that we’ve never heard of.

  135. 135 philliesfan123 said at 6:13 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    You can call it what you want. I’m talking about natural human nature. People regard ” respect ” within the business world, in terms of promotions, and salary increases. It is only natural ( not deivous or malicious ) for someone to want to understand ” why ” someone was thought to be ” better ” than them, or ” more ” qualified, to get the job ? Is that projecting …. or just being, realistic ? I think the latter. Just because someone doesn’t leave their job immediately, doesn’t mean that they are not seriously disappointed. Most people make a mental note, and leave when the chance presents itself. I wish, I lived in your world of rainbows and unicorns. Thinking that nobody within the Eagles player personnel department, didn’t bat a eyelash at Marynowitz getting the job, over other more tenured and experienced employees, is naive at best.

  136. 136 MagOvertheRainbow said at 9:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:×300.jpg

  137. 137 unhinged said at 3:39 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    But he worked “around” Bill Parcells who was a pretty good coach. He may never have distinguished himself as an evaluator of talent, but nobody’s perfect.

  138. 138 philliesfan123 said at 4:08 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m happy with him, I think he will do fine. After all, Kelly is banking his future on him, so that’s all that counts. I was just pointing out that : Reid, Roseman and Kelly, are not exactly – player evaluation gurus. That’s all.

  139. 139 unhinged said at 5:02 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I have no problem with Chip getting who he wanted. My point is simply that the leap from knowing the “types” that your boss wants to feeling a prospect in the 4th, 5th or 6th round will become a starter – the one doesn’t necessarily lead to the other.

  140. 140 philliesfan123 said at 6:26 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Can’t argue with you, I wanted a much more experienced player personnel guy. I’m soooooo tired of them putting people in charge of the ” player personnel department ” that have to ( learn ) on the job. Roseman only worked within the personnel department for TWO ( 2 ) years, before he was promoted to GM ! Now Marynowitz gets the job, after THREE ( 3 ) years in the NFL ! Bla, Bla, Bla ….. Kelly makes ALL the decisions, so who they hire doesn’t matter. Yeah, that’s great, but ” who’s ” information does Kelly base those decisions on ? It’s Marynowitz information. So now tell me who the guy Kelly hired isn’t important. Just to reiterate, I agree with you.

  141. 141 philliesfan123 said at 6:30 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I love how you put ” around ” Bill Parcells, in quotation marks. He was 5 levels below the guy who ” worked under “, Parcells. Does the guy who takes care of the turf, at the Lincoln Financial field, work ” under ” Jeff Lurie ?

  142. 142 philliesfan123 said at 3:08 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    After careful consideration I have decide to discontinue the use of the words ” Mensa, Moron, Einstein, hence, ergo and therefore. ” Even though they are sometimes appropriate, I have come to the difficult conclusion, that their usage may be overly critical, and wasted on the current level of discussions. To simplify, I have, at times possibly taken these discussions, a tad bit too seriously, and have decided to err on the side of having fun, vs having serious and sometimes contentious discussions.

  143. 143 Avery Greene said at 3:34 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m disappointed. That means I can’t use this picture…

  144. 144 philliesfan123 said at 4:09 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Thank you. Now, at least I know what you look like.

  145. 145 mksp said at 3:42 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Former Eagles scout Louis Riddick with a good interview here. Worth listening to:

    Take with a grain of salt, but Riddick did not take it easy on Howie.

  146. 146 Greg Richards said at 4:58 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    IMO, Riddick’s and a lot of other guys opinions are clouded by their own arrogance and biases. It didn’t matter what type of job Roseman did they had it stuck in their head that he wasn’t a “football guy”. They’re so stuck in the concept that you have to have playing experience to be an effective GM that they don’t show Roseman respect and then use that as a criticism of Roseman “for not garnering respect.” Roseman has the respect of the most important guy to get respect from – the owner. The owner knows that he had a better track record as far as personnel evaluation goes than all those “football guys” and while he bended to Chip to remove him from personnel respected him enough to want to keep him around(with a contract extension and raise). Riddick is a guy that has been fired by two different organizations. No one in the NFL is interested in him so he’s stuck blathering on ESPN. Hope it pays well. Criticizing others because he’s been exiled from the NFL will make him money but it won’t bring him credibility.

  147. 147 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:01 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Totally agree on your first sentence. Circular thinking automatically prevents the concept of fresh ideas. It may even preclude the “thinking” part. ;`)

  148. 148 mksp said at 5:54 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I didn’t post this to suggest that Howie is a problem, or to put Riddick on a pedestal.

    I found the interview interesting, because I always find “insider” interviews interesting, even if the interviewee in question is clearly biased to an extent.

    But that bias comes from real world experience and interaction with the subject, so I’m not as quick to discount it as others.

    And more to my point, I thought the interview provided interesting insight into the MINDSET of a quote-unquote “football guy.” By no means am I suggesting that Riddick makes a compelling argument. But he’s an EXAMPLE of how certain guys in the NFL actually THINK.

    Which I think makes his insight valuable.

    He knows better than any of us what its like to work with Howie. Disgruntled employee or not

  149. 149 Greg Richards said at 6:09 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Oh, it was definitely worthwhile to post the interview. There definitely may be validity to criticisms of Roseman although I lean more to that being the case with his personality and leadership than his actual football acumen. Forgetting Roseman and the Eagles specifically though, there is definitely a bias against guys with a cap background. When a guy that started out as a player or a scout and is thought of as a “football guy” ascends to the GM, you never see the move questioned because of a lack of experience working in contracts or the cap side. It’s not the case when the opposite happens.

  150. 150 philliesfan123 said at 7:06 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    It’s funny, and convenient that when someone loses their job, or complains about their ex boss, it must be because they are a disgruntled ex employee. They are in a no win situation. You ( must have been a bad employee ) because they fired you, or let you go. The Jets fired Pete Carroll back in 1994 to hire Rich Kotite. Kotite went on to a record of 4 and 28 between the 1995 and 1996 seasons. Good move huh ? You can’t always assume that the employee was wrong. Pete Carroll is going to his 2nd straight Super Bowl with the Seahawks. How many Lombardi trophies have the Jets won since he was fired ?

  151. 151 Greg Richards said at 8:10 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’d give Riddick more the benefit of the doubt if he hadn’t been fired by 2 teams.

  152. 152 philliesfan123 said at 8:53 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Yeah, I have to agree with you …… Pete Carroll was fired by the Jets and Patriots ….. but yet, here he is, in his second straight Super Bowl. The guy’s a bum. The employer is ALWAYS right, huh ? Apparently, he is a outspoken guy, not a a$$ kisser. I admire that. I will admit, it can hinder your employment opportunities sometimes. People LOVE them some a$$ kissers. See – Jeff Lurie promotes Howie Roseman …. again.

  153. 153 Greg Richards said at 8:57 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    There are exceptions to every rule, obviously. In general, people who have a history of losing their job lose it for a reason.

  154. 154 philliesfan123 said at 10:42 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Every year, people come and go, all through out the league. Some are fired for a good reason. Some are let go, because they were hired by someone else, who just got fired. Some decided to move on. Others get promoted just because someone else got fired. It’s all relative. So tell me, while were at it …. why was Roseman promoted to GM, in your opinion ? He worked 2 years in the personnel department prior to be appointed GM. How does that work ? Now, before you answer, tell me, do you think that having such a close relationship with Lurie and Banner did not have play a ( major, major ) role in his promotion. Lurie was in constant contact with Banner every single day. Roseman was working for Banner, every day. So, Roseman was in contact with the ( owner ) every day. How many people from the scouting department do you think had tea with Banner and Lurie in the Novacare lunch room, every day ? Answer …. NONE. Fact – Banner wanted more control within the player personnel department. How would he best achieve that. Easy, push for Roseman to become the GM. There, instant access to the draft room. After Roseman got what he wanted ….. see ya Banner …. thanks. My theory. Sticking to it.

  155. 155 Greg Richards said at 11:36 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m too tired to argue with you right now and really there’s a new thread so no one is reading this anyway. Of course, office politics was partly responsible for Roseman rising to the top. It is in all jobs. Skill and ability play a part too. Do you really think that Roseman would have as much support from Lurie as he does if he was incompetent? I realize that Roseman didn’t get the title of VP of Player Personnel until 2008 but he was becoming more and more involved and influential in player personnel from 2006 on. Really, since he joined the Eagles he wanted to transition to the personnel side and was learning under guys like Bobby DePaul .The rumor at the time was that the main reason Licht was let go was that he was disgruntled about Roseman’s influence. There was also a rumor at the time that Licht had had some type of falling out with Heckert.

  156. 156 philliesfan123 said at 1:46 PM on February 2nd, 2015:

    I’ll respond about this topic for the last time. Yes, office politics happens everywhere, ( so does cancer ) that doesn’t make it right. Yes, when Roseman joined the Eagles, his dream was to be a NFL GM. Yes, he ( got involved ) in player personnel in 2006 ( unofficially. ) BUT, when he was GIVEN the title of Vice President of Player Personnel ( in 2008 ), he was woefully inexperienced and very undeserving, of that job. Just because Roseman sat in Heckerts office and wached film with him, or Heckert let him hold the stopwatch, at the combine, didn’t mean that he was qualified to become, the Vice President, of a NFL teams, player personnel department. Even worse than that, was the fact that Roseman was again promoted, two years later, to the GM of the Eagles. Sure, he gained ” some ” experience, prior to getting promoted to both of those positions. But, the experience gained during years of, NFL and college scouting, that ( normally ) goes into getting promoted to those types of positions were ( non existent. ) Working hard, is not a guaranteed precursor to getting a job. Sure he worked hard, sure he wanted that job very bad. My issue is ( for the final time ) not with Roseman. Roseman wanted a job, and he did ” everything ” that he felt necessary, to get it. My problem is with, the Eagles owner and CEO, Jeffery Lurie. Lurie could have recognized Rosemans desires and determination, by letting him work his way up through the player personnel department, and gaining the significant experience needed to run the MOST IMPORTANT aspect ( other than salary cap ) of Luries organization. I always have looked at this issue from a organizational and structural standpoint. Rosemans relationship with Banner ( vis- a – vis ) Lurie, had a disproportionate influence, on his, almost unprecedented ascension, within the Eagles player personnel department. Chip Kelly understood this issue, and decided that he had to ( make a correction ) make changes ( to fix Luries mistakes ) to improve the Eagles player personnel department structure. For what it’s worth, now we have two more people ( with minimal experience ) Chip kelly and Marynowitz, running the Eagles personnel department. Fingers crossed.

  157. 157 philliesfan123 said at 6:53 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Yeah, your so right. Kelly loved Howie ….. that’s why the Eagles had to hire Tom Gamble to make Chip happy. Lurie didn’t agree with Kelly’s assessment of Roseman, so he fired Kelly ….. oh, wait, they demoted Roseman, and gave Kelly more power. Wow, looks like Riddick was way, way off on Roseman, huh ?

  158. 158 Greg Richards said at 8:12 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Never said Kelly loved Howie. The Eagles(Lurie) did what was necessary to keep Kelly as a coach. That doesn’t mean that Roseman isn’t affected by ignorant biases on the part of so-called football guys. Lurie still obviously holds Roseman in high regard or he wouldn’t have kept him around with a raise.

  159. 159 philliesfan123 said at 8:47 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Yes, Lurie did what was right ( finally ) and he sided with the ” football guy. ” As for your boy Roseman ….. Banner ( who hired him ) doesn’t like him. Kelly doesn’t like him. Gamble didn’t like him. Louis Riddick doesn’t like him. Word is Marynowitz doesn’t like him. Reports abound about people – not liking him. So, why was Riddick so wrong ? Because he used to work for him ? He can’t openly speak the truth about how he ” feels ” about him ? There apparently ( in your view ) is a lot of people, who are ( wrong ) about Roseman. They ALL must be wrong.

  160. 160 Greg Richards said at 9:18 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    The guy that is in the most important position in the organization and in the best position to evaluate the job performance of everyone obviously likes him. Sure he bowed to Chip to keep him as coach. He also gave Roseman a contract extension and a raise to keep his voice in the organization. He obviously feels that Roseman being in the organization is a positive. The college scouting staff who worked for Howie appear to like him. Tom Donahoe, Rick Mueller and Marynowitz himself are all on public record speaking positively of Roseman. Ryan Grigson has spoken well of Roseman and as much business as he and Howie have done together I don’t think it’s all for show. The people who don’t “like him” are the people that have been in competition with him for power in the organization. Licht didn’t like a “cap guy” gaining power in the organization. Roseman was given the GM job over Riddick when Heckert left. Banner was moved aside as Roseman gained more authority. While I don’t doubt that Kelly doesn’t respect Roseman’s personnel abilities, I don’t think I’d say that he has some type of high degree of dislike for him personally. If he did, I think Lurie would have either fired Roseman or fired Kelly. Maybe this is me being overoptimistic, but one would think that Kelly and Roseman are on a good enough basis to work together professionally even if it’s not the warmest relationship out there. Roseman rose through the ranks and won out over so-called “football guys” and made enemies. Now does that reflect on Roseman’s personality and leadership in a negative manner? Sure, to a degree. Passing all those “football guys” on the ladder also has to reflect on his skill and work ethic. For one not to think so, one would either have to think that Howie is some ninja master office politician or that Lurie is a complete fool. t.

  161. 161 philliesfan123 said at 10:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Donahoe, Mueller and Marynowitz all made those statements while Howie was STILL GM. What would you like them to say ? He’s a prick ? Grigson was a fellow GM, who had to have a formal business relationship with him, within the league. He wasn’t going to trash him publicly, what did he have to gain ? Heckert was pushed out, to make room for Roseman. Kelly ( could not / would not ) continue to work with Roseman. Don’t give me your ” not the warmest relationship – but, good enough. ” Kelly doesn’t like him. Period. He back stabbed ( Banner ) the guy who hired him, and forget about Riddick, they didn’t get along. Just because Lurie ( kept him around – and promoted him ) doesn’t mean that it was the right decision …. or the best for the organization. It just means that Lurie is afraid to ” be the boss ” and man up. He needs Howie to stick around, to be his crutch. He has allowed his personal relationship to interfere with business decisions. Keeping Roseman around, has already affected the Eagles image around the league, and hindered top people from interviewing for their top player personnel position. Lurie never should have allowed Roseman to ascend to his previous position, and thankfully Kelly made that abundantly clear to him. Nobody will disagree that the Kelly and Roseman dynamic is not good for the team. We will all see it play out, over the next several years. My guess …. It doesn’t end well.

  162. 162 Media Mike said at 5:15 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Riddick is an uppity cranky pants disgruntled former employee. He isn’t fit to shine shoes, let alone comment on football.

  163. 163 Greg Richards said at 5:17 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    When Riddick left the Eagles, did Andy look to hire him with KC? Did Banner look to hire him in Cleveland? Did Heckert in Denver? Grigson in Indy? Licht in TB? The guy doesn’t have a job in the NFL because of his own inadequacies and wants to blame it on others.

  164. 164 Media Mike said at 5:18 PM on January 30th, 2015:


  165. 165 ACViking said at 5:59 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    uppity guy not fit to shine shoes.

    hmm. interesting choices there in your comment.

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 6:01 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m glad you’re interested!

  167. 167 Greg Richards said at 6:03 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Yeah, I agree with the gist of the opinion about Riddick, but that’s not the best choice of words.

  168. 168 anon said at 6:04 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    yeah i wasn’t going to say anything.

  169. 169 philliesfan123 said at 6:47 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    My thoughts exactly.

  170. 170 botto said at 7:03 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    and cranky pants really spruces it up

  171. 171 Always Hopeful said at 7:23 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I thouhgt the same thing.

  172. 172 philliesfan123 said at 6:46 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Uppity ….. isn’t that a racial slur ?

  173. 173 jpate said at 4:02 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    And when the Seahawks snatched away Wilson just one pick before they were going to take him, Philadelphia’s draft room went silent.

    “The air was kind of sucked out of the room,” Banner says.


    This still hurts

  174. 174 Greg Richards said at 5:00 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Where is this from? Wilson was taken with the 75th overall pick. The Eagles originally had the 76th overall pick but they traded it to Houston prior to the draft as part of the Demeco Ryans trade.

  175. 175 jpate said at 12:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Good point, looks like this article took some liberties. Typical ESPN

  176. 176 CrackSammich said at 4:08 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Ah yes, the true off season coming up. And now we get hear how adding a 7th seed into the playoffs is good for the league, while completely ignoring that the 7th seed would have to go through the 2nd and 1st seeds to ever see the Super Bowl. Sounds like legit competition.

  177. 177 Media Mike said at 5:14 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I actually wouldn’t mind it if the games were 3 Saturday and 3 Sunday games rather than another Monday night.

  178. 178 anon said at 5:14 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Might save someone’s jobs if they can say they went to the playoffs.

  179. 179 Greg Richards said at 5:21 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Packers fired STs coordinator Shawn Slocum.

  180. 180 Media Mike said at 5:24 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Is that how Dom Capers is being spelled these days?

  181. 181 A Roy said at 5:26 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Capers did call a horrendous 4th quarter the other week, didn’t he.

  182. 182 Media Mike said at 5:25 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Oh my God; Chip and Ed just nailed the draft!

    Your score is: 2917 (GRADE: C+)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 20: Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (C-)
    Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama (C+)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Tony Washington, OLB, Oregon (C)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Jalston Fowler, FB, Alabama (B)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Austin Shepherd, OT, Alabama (B-)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Blake Sims, QB, Alabama (D)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Erick Dargan, SS, Oregon (D+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (C+)

  183. 183 Greg Richards said at 5:28 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Chip doesn’t use FBs.

  184. 184 Media Mike said at 5:29 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Ed talked him into it with H-back skills

  185. 185 D3FB said at 5:35 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Not bad, but Ed has UCF ties, so you should take Clayton Geathers and there is a draftable receiver from UNH as well so you have to take him. Variety is the spice of tongue in cheek mock drafts.

  186. 186 Media Mike said at 5:35 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Noted. But isn’t Geathers actually a good prospect?

  187. 187 D3FB said at 6:16 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Yea he’s a top 100 guy, lacks top end range but never ever is leaning the wrong way, but so are Grasu and Washington, you just overdrafted them.

  188. 188 Media Mike said at 6:18 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    As was my intent! Doing an all Oregon one was impossible on First Pick sadly.

  189. 189 Greg Richards said at 5:37 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    This is interesting:

    Adam Schefter

    2m2 minutes ago

    Titans parted ways with VP of Player Personnel Lake Dawson, a GM finalist in other cities in recent seasons.

    I don’t really know a lot about Dawson but not many guys with as high of a title as he has become free agents.

  190. 190 Media Mike said at 5:38 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Maybe LeBeau’s wife didn’t like him.

  191. 191 Greg Richards said at 5:40 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Sounds like classic cap guy(Webster) versus “football guy” battle.

  192. 192 philliesfan123 said at 6:43 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Looks like Chip hired his guy a few days too early.( Just joking. ) Dawson is very experienced, with 19 years of player evaluation and scouting experience. He worked previously for the Seahawks personnel department, prior to joining the Titans, in 2007. He might be a good addition to Kellys new restructured personnel department. Especially since i’m predicting some people may be moving on in May, after the draft. Examples are, scouts like Anthony patch and maybe Rick Mueller also.

  193. 193 Media Mike said at 6:47 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Given his college background, I think he’d be too gullible to be a good GM.

  194. 194 philliesfan123 said at 7:26 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I thought as a assistant to Marynowitz, not a GM. Why gullible though ?

  195. 195 Greg Richards said at 8:09 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I think you’d have to give him some title like “Senior Personnel Executive” rather than Marynowitz’s old title but regardless I agree new blood will be brought in at some point. I’m surprised we haven’t heard anything about Mueller potentially leaving.

  196. 196 Media Mike said at 7:51 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    It was a dig at Notre Dame being run by a religious organization with a history of passing along some interesting theories along to their followers.

  197. 197 P_P_K said at 5:43 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I did a quick serach and didn’t find anyone commenting, so, off subject, I heard Shady on ESPN radio this afternoon. The biggest impression he made on me was based on how highly he spoke of Foles. Usually referring to him as “Nick,” LeSean sounded honestly impressed with Foles and said the entire Eagles lockerroom feels the same way. He said the media are the ones raising questions about the future of the qb position with the Eagles. He said most people fail to understand how the injuries to Nick and the O-line lead to Foles’ poor performance. As far as he is concerned, he said, the Eagles future at qb is already settled.

    The other point in the interview that made an impact on me was when Shady was asked a question that went something like, “The Eagles were 9-3 at Thanksgiving. What happened to your season?” At that point, I swerved into a telephone pole and ran screaming down the road.

  198. 198 GEAGLE said at 6:19 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    major discrepancy between how our locker room and coaches view Nick, and how the media views Nick…
    thats why i laugh at the simpletons that truly believe that right now, chip is obsessed with trying to get Marriotta…. chip kelly will NEVER, i repeat NEVER be so transparent to where we can easily read what he will do,… the fact that he is publically gushing absurdly over marriotta, and practically help market marriotta to the other GMs should tell everyone that chip isnt giving serious thought to Marriotta…. make no mistake about it, Chip like Foles much much more than he lets on, he wont even make that crystal clear to the media yet people think he desperately wants marriotta and is being so transparant and honest about it? GTFO here….. if a team was considering trading marriotta to us, and we are talking about 3 first rounders as the compensation,with how chip is gushing over him, comparing his football brain to Peytons, chip wouldnt allow himself to sound so desperate to get the kid to where the team we are discussing the trade with could try and take advantage of chip and up the compensation from 3 first rounders to 3 first rounders and two second rounders…. no one that wants to buy or trade for anything lets the other party know how desperate you. bad b
    Business 101…
    because of the connection, GMsw would already assume that chip would value Marriotta, which means teams will already try to take advantage of chip wanting marriotta in negotiations, NO WAY that chip is so dumb that he is going out of his way to talk the kid up so much, which can lead to GMs getting greedy and upping the asking price..
    If Chip really does want marriotta, it looks to me as if he has made peace with the fact that he isnt going to be able to get him. Chip is the ultimate TEAM GUY, i doubt we ever see chip covet 1 player so much that we trade like 3-5 good players(high draft picks) for the player…no matter who it is…

    If Chip can trade a 3rd round pick and a 3rd rounder next year to move up to 16 for a falling marriotta, i assume he likes him enough to pay THAT, even if Chip loves foles since he is smart enough to take serious the fact that you really do need two QBs… but i doubt Chip loves marriotta enough to pay more than that… i dont even believe Chip would give up 2 first rounders for Marriotta, not with Nick on the roster going into the 3rd round of this offense…. the compensation it costs to trade up for marriotta, you can use to put a sick offense AROUND nick foles and we know that if you protect him, and get the run game going we can win games with the kid…
    obviously when i type something like this i know no one will agree and everyone thinks chip will give up the farm for a QB because everyone thinks foles isnt his Guy…..;lol sounds like Everyone will be on the wrong end of a Geagle “I told you so”….lol

  199. 199 P_P_K said at 6:31 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I’m giving you credit, GEAGLE, for putting your opinion out straight. I am optimistic about Nick, but I’m not 100% confident he can pull it off on the level we need for the Eagles to be a Super Bowl contender. I sure hope you’re right. If you called this right, next year at this time we should all be singing praises to your insight. If you’re wrong, be prepared for the rotten fruit from some of the guys.

  200. 200 botto said at 6:53 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Foles can absolutely get it done. all we need is a solid o-line for the run game, and a decent secondary to help out. Foles can do it no problem. We need Mac back too and shady to be shady.

  201. 201 GEAGLE said at 7:31 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Honest question: have you ever heard of a talented young man, Recieving quality coaching, working his ass off for the next 6 months and not improve?

    We don’t have t worry about him getting caught up with “the Nick FOles Brand”

    We don’t have to worry about him getting carried away with his own talent and not putting in the work because you think you are naturally talented enough to beat anyone the wAy VICK admitted to doing in his early years.
    We don’t have to worry about him staying out Til 5am and getting drunk every night from now to April…
    This kid doesn’t play the game for money. All the hits he takes, the hours of film study, all the hard work, ISNT motibated by money. Kid Genuinly Lives this game, God, Family, Football and he means it.. The popular term these days for those type of guys are “all ball guys”… No BS, all about the game
    If Nick was were Cam Newton is, with over 50 games and 4years of starting experience I would start to get worried. But Nck doesn’t even have 30 starts yet, he has so much more growing to do. I don’t like Nick because of who he is today, I like Nick for who he will be in 2017..

    I believe QBs need 50 starts and like 4-5 years in an offense to really grow into the level of QB they will be as a veteran. But I believe the LEGIT young QBs are the ones you can still win games with even while they are developing, THATS NICK….Kid is winning for us And we aren’t even seeing his best yet…Nick is like half way done developing, he still has another two years worth of realizing more me more of his full potential and this isn’t a kid we have to worry about getting lazy and not put in the work..

    You put a solid OL in front of him and I’m absolutely confidemt we will win with Nick next year, even tho we are still probably two years away from really seeing the QB he maxes out at when he grows into a veteran oh his QB prime.

    Now Im not telling you he will ever grow into aaron Rodgers who carries an entire franchise on his back, but

  202. 202 P_P_K said at 10:35 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I find it really easy to like and admire the young man. Really easy. He seems like a truly decent human being and a great teammate. And I agree with you that he is still developing. What I don’t know, yet, is how high is his ceiling.

    I’ve made a couple of predictions about guys potential that have come true — Shady and Cole being two I can brag about — and I’m also wrong about the same number of times (Sanchez and Nate Allen). Therefore, to be honest, I’m not the guy to ask how far Nick is going. It would be great if you’re right. Great because the Eagles would already have their qb1 in the house, and great because it’s always a pleasure to see good people succeed.

    I enjoy reading your thoughts about Foles because your passion and confidence are contagious! It’s a good way to feel during this too-long off-season.

  203. 203 OregonDucker said at 8:19 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    P_P_K – I agree. IMHO, Nick’s trouble with zone coverage and inability to correct his footwork was not lost on Chip. I think Chip is open to change at QB, given what I have seen with his decision process on the postion. There are a couple of names that have come up, Kap and Locker, as well as a couple of draft possibilities.

    I honestly think we might be surprised in how this shakes out. Don’t get me wrong, Nick can do it, but he has some things to fix and fix fast.

  204. 204 MagOvertheRainbow said at 9:14 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Right. Did anyone predict Sanchez???

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