Coaching Staff Update
Posted: January 22nd, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 362 Comments »Chip Kelly has added someone else to the staff.
Boston College OC/QBs coach Ryan Day is expected to join #Eagles as QBs coach, league source said. Replaces Bill Musgrave.
— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) January 22, 2015
That name won’t mean much to you, but Chip knows him. Day was a QB at the University of New Hampshire from 1998-2001. Kelly hadn’t fully configured his offense back then since he was the OL coach in 1998 and just took over as Offensive Coordinator in 1999. UNH was a zone running team back then and Kelly was just mixing in different ideas of how to attack in creative ways.
I can’t really judge this move since I don’t know much about Day. Kelly obviously feels some young blood needed to be added to the mix. Kelly and Pat Shurmur are still veteran coaches who will impact the QBs a lot.
Bill Lazor was a good QB coach. Bill Musgrave didn’t seem to have as much of an impact. Losing him isn’t a big deal. Day lacks NFL experience, but he is used to working with young QBs. The Eagles will likely have 2 of 3 young QBs, and possibly all 3. There is something to be said for finding someone who can connect with young players.
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Chip was at the North practice this morning. I got to the stadium at 920am (very empty for some reason) and Chip was down in his usual spot in the far end zone. He stood there and talked to John Dorsey for more than 2 hours. Dorsey is the Chiefs GM.
The Eagles had some interest in Chris Ballard, who works for Dorsey. Nothing happened with that. I don’t know if Chip was trying to get that situation back open or if he was just picking Dorsey’s brain on other potential candidates. Dorsey used to work for Green Bay so he knows Eliot Wolf and Alonzo Highsmith, who both could be of interest.
It is possible Kelly was just picking his brain in general and wasn’t talking specific people. Dorsey is a veteran personnel guy who knows how to run a team. There is a lot to be learned from talking to someone like that.
There is a connection between Kelly and Dorsey. Kelly played at UNH from 1981-84. John Dorsey played at UConn, then a small school, from 1980-83. They could have just been reminiscing about the old days.
But that’s boring. Let’s hope Kelly was picking his brain.
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Maybe Reid is taking over everything in KC and Dorsey’s available?
Probably not.
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Tough loss for #BC. Ryan Day is considered by his peers as one of the rising stars in coaching. Now goes to work w/ his old buddy Chip Kelly
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Nick Foles is on the cover of Feldman’s new book. Check out his timeline.
Right now, all I really care about is hiring a QB coach who has a shot at lasting here more than one season. Some continuity The position would be lovely, thank you very much…..the revolving door of QB coach needs to end…
And the revolving door just got stuck.
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I actually think that Dorsey was trying to sell Justin Houston to Chip Kelly as a bum in those two hours.
Huh? What happened?
They were clearly working on an alex smith for nick foles trade.
You joke but I wonder if the Eagles would have interest in Chase Daniels. Daniels is probably pricier than KC would like to pay for a backup(they’re tight on cap space) and they drafted Aaron Murray in the 5th round last year and signed Terrell Pryor.
If Hali gets cut — do we consider that?
Yes we do if we’re smart. Hali would put us over the top front 7
Hali would be smart to go to a contender trying to add that last piece to win it all next year. Eagles might be switching Qbs so him coming here makes no sense.
Nick Foles is going to have a lot of pressure on his shoulders this year — i hope he’s up to the task.
Don’t worry, that collar bone will be healed up stronger than before.
KC has had terrible to average QB for years. Foles isn’t going anywhere, we need to accept and understand that. I think Foles has an even shot to be best NFCE QB next year. Maybe he can be better than Romo,RG3,Eli.
Romo= another year older,uncertainty in WR/RB,still anti clutch
Rg3=Turnover prone,Injury prone, BaneofGruden
Eli=No run game,No blocking game, No Def,Turnover prone
Foles=Injury prone,streaky,
For the right price. He’s 31 and his production is kinda dropping off.
I’m not really interested, if he’s cut some team will give him good money that we shouldn’t match for a player his age
Yup. Pretty much a sideways upgrade over Cole.
Yeah I’d try not to give big contacts to anyone over 30
U can still be effective pass rushing after 30 these guys are both warriors not to mention high motor fast balls lol
Joe Banner, what are you doing trolling Eagles fan sites?
Hali has 26 sacks over the last 3 seasons vs. 17.5 for Cole. Hali would be a significant upgrade.
Did it really drop off or did has Houston really cominto his own? I know he BALLED out this year, kinda hard to put up sacks when other guy is getting there every time. I didn’t watch a lot of the Chiefs, so I have no idea, just food for thought
Houston has had 2 digit sack numbers for 3 years now. Hali has never been fast and now he’s 31.
Gamble heading back to SF
Good for him, let us wish him all the best and never speak of him again. lol 🙂
For awhile I thought Chip was gonna reveal Gamble in a surprise WWE path to the draft reveal …too bad lol
That picture of him that keeps popping up looks a bit like Seth McFarlane doesn’t it?
Seemed like the most likely destination. Not surprising.
Gauntlet thrown, Media Mike:
Round 1 Pick 27 (DAL): Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (B-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Anthony Harris, SS, Virginia (A)
Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Kurtis Drummond, FS, Michigan State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 20: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 14: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) (B)
Round 4 Pick 20: Jeremy Langford, RB, Michigan State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 20: Taiwan Jones, ILB, Michigan State (B)
Round 6 Pick 20: Sean Mannion, QB, Oregon State (A-)
Round 7 Pick 20: Michael Orakpo, OLB, Texas State (D-)
Manion’s even less athletic than Foles. He completely breaks down if you move him off his spot according to the reports I’ve read. Not interested, even in the 6th. Everyone else, I’m ok with.
Wow, you only disagree with 1 pick!?!?!? Come on, we have to stir up some conversation pieces here!
Only one I’ve read enough about to have more than a passing acquaintance with. You hit all of our needs and mostly with guys I’ve read mostly good things about.Sambrailo might be early, but an athletic tackle/guard first makes me happy after our tragedy last season. Two safeties . . . yes please. Devin Smith gives us a legitimate deep threat who could develop into more. If I would nitpick, no corners before the 4th round? Combine that with Gunter being a project and I doubt he sees the field anytime soon. Honestly, after about round 4 even the nfl pros are guessing so unless I know there’s a mismatch with what we run, I’m not going to criticize. Thus my ‘no Manion.’ I don’t think we need a Mike Vick/Marcus Mariota type athlete playing QB, but Nick’s about as unathletic a QB as I can imagine playing in Chip’s R/O offense.
Now there is a great post. Our corners probably won’t see the field early anyway and at least with Gunter you have a real chance of having someone solid. I would hope the safeties would provide both depth and possibly a better option than Nate Allen. That would help the safeties. I should have grabbed a cb instead of one of the safeties and grabbed ibraheim in the 4th instead of Gunter.
I’ve been holding off until Draft Tek updates their position rankings and I see a few more. I kept getting basically the same results because they haven’t re-ranked the guys on first-pick yet either.
Gunter was getting some praise on Sirius NFL yesterday for having a good practice.
Awesome. Getting the wrong Steve Smith was easy, Smith is a common name. Even the wrong Mathews brother, meh. But getting the wrong Orakpo? Within the division? Impressive.
Where did the 2nd, second rounder ( round 2 – pick # 28 ) come from ? They only ( currently ) have one ( 1 ) second rounder.
I do, however love Drummond as their 2nd round pick. He will be a starter right out of training camp. This kid is a player …. mark it down ! Dare I say it ….. a Ed Reed clone. Ball hawk, with great body control ( in the air ) and very aggressive tackler / hitter. Chip, PLEASE run to the podium.
Trade down, brother.
Oh wait, you traded the #1 for a second rounder ? I’m confused.
I traded from pick 20 for pick 27 and the 28th pick in the second.
OK, my bad. Good call. Not a bad move.
Every time I ( hear or see ) the word ” Brother ” I can’t help think of ” Hulk Hogan ” …… BROTHER !!!
Eli manning threw for 30tds to 14 picks and had the 7th highest qbr this year. crazy.
Watch ODBs highlights. He bailed Eli out so hard.
Watch “____________giantsWR” , he bailed Eli out so hard.
Eli has made a career of throwing it and letting WR make a play. When he has talented WR they make him look great.
There’s value in a QB who trusts his WRs to make plays. It’s kind of the anti-McNabb 😀
In fairness to McNabb, he had no trustworthy WRs until TO, and then until Desean and Maclin.
Todd “epitome of tough” Pinkston the anti TO
I wish I could say the same for Matthews and Foles but Matthew’s just so lackluster.
Foles throws players open all the time. he just throws the ball to a spot and then the receiver just needs to get to that spot.
He put up numbers with Sanchez I didn’t think was possible for a WR lol
I wound say Matthews was lackluster but he definitely needs work on drops. I think he can be great but he’s not ODB crazy talented.
It just bothers me so much that he is 6’3, 212 pounds and yet he can’t win contested catches. I hate how finesse he plays when the ball is still in the air.
15th if we’re using the real rating and not the one ESPN made up to make Eli look better. F them. Eli sucks.
I would be really curious to hear what these two guys would say to each other especially if the conversation last more than 5 minutes.
Arif Hasan is a bad, bad, man:
http://justblogbaby.com/2015/01/20/bill-musgrave-breakdown-5-questions-vikings-analyst/
This is just not something I see too much of–an educated, astute analysis of how well an offensive coordinator does his job. You can keep in mind how Chip Kelly does it, and think whether Hasan’s takedown of Musgrave applies, to good or ill.
Happy to see Musgrave gone. Every QB he’s coached in the last four years has regressed. (The exception technically being Sanchez, who was horrendous before he came to Philly because he had even worse offensive coaches with the Jets.)
Chip has a background with RBs and OL, considering those were the positions he coached before becoming a coordinator, not QB. He’s dependent on having the right guy to coach up QBs. Lazor excelled here last year and in Miami this year. I know almost nothing about Day, but I welcome the change.
Next year: draft Trevone Boykin, who reminds me of a McNabb/Wilson hybrid. Nice touch, has that McNabb ability to generate nice power while throwing off his back foot with accuracy, has that Wilson escapability in the pocket and always wants go throw first before even thinking of running but isn’t afraid to. Watch his tape I was watching TCU games all year and he really grew on me. Seems perfect for our offense, good character too. If we miss on Mariota which is almost definite and get Hundley and aren’t impressed or even Petty, I’d grab Boykin without a doubt. Just not sure when, guess we’ll see after ’15 season. Go watch his tape. Now.
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What do you mostly dislike about him?
He’s short, a better athlete than QB, and nobody wanted anything to do with him until they installed the Air Raid.
Gotcha. I like reading your scouting reports BTW good stuff. I thought he played pretty well considering he never really played much, if at all, I’m gonna watch some of his tape to watch again or try to find some full games (highlights usually only show the good and not the bad.) But I thought he did pretty good. I didn’t even notice his height tbh. Then again, Wilson is also short. It just seemed like he could fit in our offense overall. Next year will probably show somewhat closer to what he truly is. He was a fun playmaker to watch this year though.
He’s 6’2″ but he is pretty skinny for a qb, looks like a receiver.
He’s a listed 6’2. Listed heights mean very little. He’s 6′ or 6’1. The reason you think he looks like a receiver is because his freshman and sophomore year he played WR when Casey Pachall was healthy and not kicked off the team for cocaine use.
The QB he reminds me most of is Braxton Miller. Another athlete who can throw, which is dope in college, but as an NFL prospect you have to be an Quarterback who is athletic, not an athlete playing quarterback.
Watched a few TCU games this season. He’s really raw but I like his tools. I could be wrong, but I doubt he ends up being more than practice squad fodder unless he improves a ton this year.
What do you mostly dislike about him??
Short, undeveloped as a passer which is to say lacks timing and ball placement skills needed at the pro level. Isn’t asked to do much reading of defense at TCU and I didn’t see a lot of patience in the pocket.
Positives are that he’s a tremendous athlete and his arm is live. At this point he’s looks like a practice squadder with potential or a career CFLer. P.S. Love DF3B’s reaction 😛
Boykin replaces Boykin…
Day was GA for the Gators in 2005. Yet another Urban Meyer connection.
Interesting. I’m not sure if this guy has any type of body of work in developing a good QB that we can trust the move up front. He has to prove he can coach NFL QBs before I believe he can.
I mean but who did everybody want?
Jeff Garcia who has been a coach for one year in the CFL?
Scott Frost who has been a college OC/QB coach for two years? Who until Kelly hired him to be a WR coach at Oregon was the linebacker and DC and Northern Iowa?
Some crappy retread offensive coordinator? That worked out super swell with Musgrave.
I can’t tell you who I wanted. I can tell you I don’t want – and that’s another Kelly connection. It’s understood about another “crappy” guy, but it’s not like all of Kelly’s other hires are lighting it up. It’s not like he’s made some golden decisions on his staff. If I’m an NFL QB, I don’t want this guy coming in and tell me how to be successful in an environment he has no idea about. At least Jeff Garcia can speak about the NFL….
To be fair, Lazor got a lot out of Foles and did well with Tannenhill.
Are we not all thrilled with Azzinaro? Doing an awesome job AND a Kelly guy. The LB coaches have done a great job. Stoutland has been a good hire as far as anyone can tell.
oh good, you named 2. Weren’t there a few fired coaches this year? Are we counting Gamble as good choice or was he not a Chip hire(I’m not sure). How’s that DC doing? How’s that secondary doing giving up NFL history plays?
He named 3, the LB coach is an implicit mention. But we can add Duce Staley and the WR coach (Matthews showed up well for a rookie). TEs played very well too. So that makes 6 coaches. Pointing to 2 coaches (DBs and QB) doesn’t make for not choosing the right guys.
See above. 2 LB coaches. McGovern and Minter.
I did, we posted about the same time. I was trying to be fair to your argument as it read, but I agree nonetheless.
I’d argue, but it’s not worth it about the impact of the guys you mentioned. I’ll just make 1 point — if the TE’s was so good, what happened to our young TE in his second year?
Did Celek not do a good job both in protection AND passing game? I’d say there were opportunities but the QB play this year was not the best. Ertz has to work on his blocking, a skill he didn’t have to use in college. Year 2, he’s not going to be as good as Celek in that department.
That’s my point. After year 1 — where was Ertz “step forward”? There wasn’t one. Celek was the same player as he was when Reid was here. I
Who said Ertz didn’t make a step forward? Because of stats? I bet you he’s a better blocker now than he was at the beginning of the year. TEs do other things besides catch balls.
Also, not all progression is linear. Sometimes you take a step back to take two forward.
Ertz was supposed to take over for Celek. Someday he will. Many thought it would be 2014.
2013: 36-469-4
2014: 56- 702-3 (good for 11th! amongst TE’s)
Offhand I think we have fairly clear numerical evidence of a step forward.
Thanks for checking. I didn’t check before responding to him earlier.
Never let facts get in the way of a good narrative
that’s my line…
come on. You know you can’ t mix stats from one year to the next with including external influences. By your number alone — since the TE’s finished a whopping 11th, Sanchez needs to be the QB of the future.
I obviously agree with your larger point, but to be fair, Ertz’s numbers from 2013 involved a large spike in the 2nd half. Probably (I’m wayyyyy too lazy) if you take per game average from 2013 2nd half and compared to full season 2014, you’d see a flatline or worse. I just think that numbers don’t tell the whole story. Ertz was a more complete player to my eye; he just wasn’t as good as Celek at blocking yet. And with the OL in shambles, and then Sanchez being locked in to his BFF Matthews, it just didn’t translate to equivalent numbers.
Preach it Bill. Given a flat stat at the end of the season doesn’t meant squat. Might as well as say Nate Allen is one of the best safeties in the NFL because he lead the Eagles with INT’s.
He played less due to scheme. We needed the extra help of Celek due to the clusterf#$k at OL. You can’t argue that he got worse in any reasonable manner.
I never said Celek got worse. I wondered about Ertz…
Exactly! You can’t say Ertz got worse. You can’t say he was a worse receiver, his blocking also improved. Just because Ertz doesn’t block like Celek in his second year, doesn’t mean that’s remotely on coaches. Ertz put up good receiving numbers. Period. 700 yards for a TE is pretty good, add in the fact he was used less due to constraints of the offense and it’s super impressive. He ran good routes. He improved marginally as a blocker. Celek was one of the worst blockers in the league as a TE for several years.
Its amazing Ertz got 700 recieving yards with under 50% playing time.
He most likely had hit 1000 if it wasnt for Celek been a badass mofo and Kelly valueing blocking so much at the start of the year
one day — he will be …
not only that, half the passes floated towards him were uncatchable or almost resulted in injury
Love how you can’t keep my name out of your mouth and you continue to give me publicity on other sites. No such thing as bad publicity. Appreciate it and I hope u r kind enough to continue the pussy behavior…. My regular groupies will take offense with you trying to take their spot. lol what a bitch hahahaha
The OL implosion happened.
There are 2 LB coaches, so I named 4. Don’t think there are any complaints about Lazor, Staley or Williams either.
Who are the assistants you have complaints about?
ok, LB coaches — who can’t coach Ryans? That’s like name a rb coach to help out Shady. SMH.
Developed Kendricks in to a pro-bowl caliber player. Successfully helped hide Casey Matthews. Got a career year out of Barwin. Helped Cole and Graham become competent or better OLBs.
Come on man, you just had a weak point. It doesn’t mean you have to love the hire of Day, but stop trying to defend a statement that, I’m guessing, you didn’t think all the way through.
Kendricks continued to make strides. Casey freaking Matthews looked adequate!!!
Kendricks is becoming a monster. No question. What happened to Boykin? And never use Mathews and adequate in the same sentence again. LMAO.
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So can number 5. You wanna give him a call. Just because a guy used to be a good player doesn’t he can coach worth a damn. At least he hired an actual football coach.
Just because you don’t like Billy D. and the DB coaches were let go (seriously almost all teams fire some coach on the staff every year) doesn’t mean Chip hired a bad staff. Shurmur’s done a good job. Azz, Bicknell, Fipp, Stoudtland, McGovern, Minter, Staley, Lazor have all done quality work.
My experience, in athletics and out, is that “naturals” make the worst teachers.
No, I didn’t say 5. Oh god no. I know it’s not right comparing coaches to different position. For example – each DL person has another starting DL person to ask for help(aside from the coach). The QB doesn’t have that luxury. This hire is different than a rb/db coach. Someone(or something?) made an impact on Foles 2 years ago that didn’t do the same for Vick. Last year someone didn’t get threw to Foles. I think a QB coach is one of the most important hires as he’s the one directly impacting the guy with the keys to the car. A view from a fan(not with your experience) – this is a hire for 2 reasons. 1 – Chip is giving this guy a foot into the NFL. (I’m actually OK with that idea) and 2 – Chip hired a yes man. What I doubt is his ability to have an impact on Foles(and any other young qb).
1. Day has pretty good resume of his own, he would have been interviewing for non Power-5 head coaching gigs after the upcoming season.
2. Yes Chip knows the guy, but alot of coaching hires are based on who you know.
3. The whole OMG he’s just a 13 year college coach who only has a couple years as an OC/QB coach at a pretty blah ACC school, so he’s unqualified. See O’brien, Bill.
4. Other than him putting a power play on Howie, what evidence do you have that Chip hires “yes” men?
I wouldn’t care if he had 30 years as a college coach. I just can’t look at this and say “gee, I can’t wait to see his impact”. It’s just not that kind of hire.
But the general reaction is somewhere between Charlie Brown after Lucy punks him for the ten millionth time and “Chips a massive idiot, who wants lackies and his ego is too big”. I get it if this isn’t some big sexy hire that’s gonna excite up the fan base, but no one has any real reason to hate on it.
To your point, there was no discussion when Lazor was hired. One way or the other. No one was asking, who is this guy?
Your comments are as always sterling.
why has Lazar tired?
…what?
if you’re asking if retired, he took a promotion as the OC of the Dolphins. He’s probably the heir apparent there if Philbin gets the axe midseason, and will probably be in the next group of likely HC candidates in the next couple seasons.
no … re-read the post. ACViking said “Lazar was tired”. I don’t know what he meant…
It currently says “hired”, so I assume he edited it.
No putting words in my mouth about this discussion. I never called Chip an idiot. I never said Chip has a big ego. I never said I hate it. I said I know I don’t want him. Has this guy coached/developed QB’s in college where these QB’s came into to the NFL? A sexy hire would be someone with tremendous college success. This guy is “eh”. So, I’ll ask you(aside from your bias approach) why do YOU love this hire?
I don’t LOVE it. I think it was a smart hire. The handful of games I watched BC i came away impressed by the creativity of their playcalling. Despite having a glorified RB at QB they found creative ways to get him some high percentage throws and the playcalling did a good job of not becoming too overboard.
I honestly have no idea why people are complaining about this hire.
I don’t think Chip has given us any reason to believe he’s a poor judge of character or coaching ability.
Spot on with point 4. Even the power play vs Howie doesn’t really show an indication for a need for ‘yes’ men. Only shows that he didn’t have any faith in Howie.
Kinda OT, but have we figured out what exactly Shurmur does during the game? I’m sure he helps Chip with game plans during the week, but I’m pretty sure they have yet to pan to Pat on the sideline during a game.
hes up in the box.
Yeah, actually most of the best players make lousy coaches. They had so much natural ability that they never had to learn as many little things in minute detail as those with less ability did just to compete.
this argument got waaaay out of hand on the other site.
Plus, wasn’t Lovett the guy with the most NFL experience?
Sorry for the slow reply on this, but I couldn’t tell you exactly who I’d want. I’m just saying that this move has a lot of “prove it” to it simply based on the name / background.
As good as the DB coach hiring seems to be, as bad is this QB coach hiring. I really hope Chip doesn’t blow the “GM” search like he did this hiring. We’ll be in really, really big trouble if Chip picks players two rounds before other teams would draft them.
I mean come on, the OC from Boston College as your QB coach?
“BC averaged 129.3 passing yards per game, 124th out of 128 teams. The number was 154.8 in 2013 (114th out of 125 teams).”
Why not hire the Georgia Tech OC to be your QB coach? Or Navy? What does he even know about QB play? He has a WR coach backround and became OC of a completely run heavy program. Congratulations for now being the QB coach in the NFL…
Feel bad for Foles, to be honest. Obviously, there was the O-Line situation, but I think Lazors tough coaching was good for Nick. He had Musgrave last year, who couldn’t correct the mistakes he made all season long, and now comes this guy. I think Nick Foles himself or Mark Sanchez could tell each other more about how to correct their mistakes.
And don’t underestimate the QB coach position. The QB coach sits in the room and watches film with the QBs. He needs to point out what’s good and what needs to be done better. Day can’t do that, he simply doesn’t know what’s needed to be a good QB. He never was one, he never coached one, he was never in the film room with one.
Maybe Day is a talented coach. I can’t say I know him, therefore I can’t say he isn’t. But he absolutely lacks the experience to be a QB coach in the NFL. If he’d be the assistant QB coach for a few years, I’d look at this hiring differently. But he wasn’t. He’s just not qualified for this job.
It’s pure nepotism from Chip. Despite all the good work he has done and all the football knowledge he has, that seems to be a problem with him. Let’s be clear: all coaches and executives do it. But only to a certain degree. Hiring someone like Day as QB coach is way over the line.
May the faith be with you…
This is funny.
So you admit you don’t know how talented of a coach he is. Chip is obviously quite confident that he is. Doesn’t mean he’s right. And I understand some concern over the hiring. But that level of confidence that this is a bad hire is bizarre to me.
As far as BCs offense, Bill Lazor was also Matt Barkley’s QB coach. Sometimes it doesn’t matter how good of a coach you are if you don’t have the players.
“Doesn’t mean he’s right”
Exactly.
I think Chip being close with many former players and coaches makes him a good human being, at least a good friend to have. But that doesn’t mean he should hire them in positions where they don’t have the necessary backround.
Just look at Juan Castillo. Was a veteran NFL coach when AR made him DC. You could have said the same thing back then: well, Juan is a good coach (he was, at coaching O-Line), AR is a great HC and quite confident that JC will be a good DC.
Didn’t work, because Juan wasn’t qualified for the job. Being a good, talented coach doesn’t mean that you’ll be good at every coaching position there is.
I’m not saying Day is a bad coach. I’m just saying he isn’t qualified enough to be a QB coach in the NFL.
Jeff Stoutland had ZERO NFL experience when Chip hired him to coach the OL for the Eagles.
Jerry Azzinaro had ZERO NFL experience when Chip hired him to coach the DL for the Eagles.
Prior experience is only part of the equation.
I don’t have anything against coaching in College. It’s just the question of where, what’s your position there and is that a strenght of that team?
Stoutland, f.e., coached the best OL in College. That’s where I say: welcome to the NFL. And that doesn’t mean Stoutland was the best O-Line coach in college. Alabama obviously has a far better talent level than other teams. But he coached at the highest level in college football.
Wow. Where did YOU get your qualifications to judge coaching talent and ability? Without any evidence to support your claims to perfection?
I’m not judging his talent, I’m juding his CV. He ran the 124th ranked passing offense in college (out of 128 teams). Doesn’t mean it was a bad decision for BC to be so run heavy, but clearly, this is one of the last guys who you would give the keys to the QB room. That is, if you’re not a buddy with Chip.
Chip isn’t the only one high on this guy BTW.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2015/01/22/eagles-wake-call-54/
This is by far perhaps the most nonsensical argument I’ve ever read.
You’re faulting him because he ran the offense that Steve Adazzio designed? That plays to the strengths of what Boston College can produce? The strength of that Boston College team is in their offensive linemen, so they put as many as they can on the field and run the football at you.
You don’t like his unorthodox background but then shit on Musgrave who is the definition of the classic NFL QB coach, and has all the qualifications.
You don’t think Day knows proper form and technique for the QB position? I’ve never played a damn day of linebacker in my life and you could give me a college linebacker corps tomorrow and I’d be fine. Pointing out whats good and bad? He’s been a WR coach, offhand I think he can do things like help his QB read coverages, how to move defenders with his eyes, how to see what his receivers are seeing, and watch tape.
He never was a good QB? Well for starters he played 3 years at the FCS level so he’s was at least one of the top 200-300 QBs in the country. Excuse me, apparently we’ve got Joe Montana here.
Great QB whisperer Andy Reid: Never played QB, had exactly 2 years as a QB coach, the two years in GB before he came here, never was a QB coach prior to that.
Day has Pat Shurmur who is a non playcaller offensive coordinator to lean on. Oh by the way before Shurmur was the QB coach for the Eagles, he’d never been a QB coach, or even played the position.
Don’t act like there was some long line of super QB gurus out there on the street, and Chip hired some part time assistant high school coach. You’re talking about a guy with 13 years of Division 1 college coaching experience. He’s not Zac Taylor who got a job as an NFL QB coach purely based on nepotism.
The fact that you don’t think Day who is well regarded in coaching circles, knows how to coach a QB, and is some massive cronyism hire and that it’s some great indictment of Kelly is asinine.
This is by far perhaps the most nonsensical argument I’ve ever read
Well, then I guess you haven’t spent much time on TATE at all…
I’m enough of a sadist, not need to be a glutton for punishment.
Treated.
Breathe D3FB. He has some legitimate concerns but we truly won’t know until we see the product on the field. I refuse to judge him before the season even starts as either a good hire or a bad one.
What do you mean with “faulting”? It’s perfectly fine to play a run heavy scheme if that fits your personell. Doesn’t mean it qualifies you for QB coach in the NFL, though.
It’s simple logic and I think if you wouldn’t be so pissed about my comment you would have thought that through. Qualifications won’t guarentee you anything. Having no qualifications for a specific job is what’s bugging me with that hire.
Juan Castillo was a veteran coach, even a good coach at what he learned to do (O-Line). Was it a good idea to make him a D-Coord, though? No. And why? Because he simply didn’t have the backround for it.
Not if we’re talking about NFL level. Now, if he would have a good College backround, I wouldn’t care. But he didn’t have even halfway competent QBs in BC since he was the OC (when Ryan was there, he was the WR coach). Like you said, they are good with developing O-Line, so that’s their strenght. QBs haven’t been one of them. Not even close.
He won’t work with the O-Line, though. Or the RBs. Or the run game. He will work with the QBs.
Like Juan Castillo, who coached O-Line for 12 years and therefore knew how Defenses defend certain kind of plays, so he’d be fine as DC. Oh, wait…
We’re talking about the NFL level. And of course, he was probably 10.000 times better than I am, but I’m not a QB coach in the NFL and never will be.
It’s like you criticizing Bradley Fletcher for his play this year. He’s still a better player than you (he’s in the NFL…), doesn’t mean you can’t be critical of him. So where’s the point?
Will Shurmur be in the QB room when they watch film? If so, why would you even need a QB coach?
I’m not saying he doesn’t know anything. I’m just saying he doesn’t know enough about high level QB play to be a QB coach in the NFL. Again, Juan Castillo. 16 years coaching in the NFL. Was a horrible DC because of his backround, not because he didn’t have enough experience or didn’t know enough about football.
If you’re the OC of a completely run heavy college program, the position coach on the offensive side of the ball that makes the least sense according to your backround is QB coach. RB coach, TE coach, O-Line coach, Run Game coordinator – all fine with me. Not QB coach, though. You simply haven’t proven to be good at it.
WR coach and Offensive Coordinator to QB Coach is super common, and it’s an incredibly different switch that Juan Castillo to DC. You know that, you knows it’s a bullshit comparison.
He is qualified!!! Also for you to presume he doesn’t know enough about QB play to be an NFL QB coach is speculative at best.
“He is qualified!!!”
If that’s the case, who wouldn’t be qualified to be QB coach in the NFL? Seriously, where do you draw the line personally?
Because if you say: Chip Kelly thinks he’s qualified, well, then AR said Castillo is qualified to coach the Defense. Those guys know more about football than 99,9 percent of the fans (obviously including me), but that doesn’t mean they don’t make bad decisions.
“Also for you to presume he doesn’t know enough about QB play to be an NFL QB coach is speculative at best”
Well, he never worked close with a QB who had even a slight chance of playing in the NFL. Or do you think he learned it all with Ryan while he was coaching the WR?
I simply prefer a coach who’s showing something in his CV that suggests he can get the job done at the next level. I’m not saying his work at OC in BC wasn’t good (I can’t judge that), but it had nothing to do with QBs. Here in Philly, well, that’s his whole job.
Just a little extra. Castillo had experience on both sides of the LOS. Also he was not the first Coordinator to switch sides. Some of you folks keep forgetting that the Eagles do not operate in a vacuum!!.
It’s not nepotism, they aren’t related! Nepotism is when you hire family.
He also played QB in college, so he does actually have experience in being one, which means he has been in the film room with one, and probably has helped coach one with the younger QBs on the NH roster.
Yay reading comprehension!!!!
Now I’ll hold out judgement on how good he is because I know nothing about his coaching abilities, but he was an OC at a Power 5 conference. He wouldn’t be there if he was some joke.
It’s nepotism in a wider sense.
fyi, the word you are looking for is ‘cronyism’
Thanks, bud. Both words carry the same translation in German though. 😉
Kyle Shanny is nepotism. Hell, Eliot Wolf was nepotism.
NFL people hire people they know. Happens all the time, I don’t really see this as a big deal
I didn’t say it was a big deal. However I can understand why Dominik was referring to ‘nepotism’.
Why do you feel bad for Foles. He is going to get paid, sign a long term deal to stay here and be our starting QB for the next 6years. No reason to feel bad for Nick. He knows the truth, he knows how ridiculous the convos are that we are having in philly. He knows this is a fabricated narrative starts by dumb media, and dumb fans who continuously believe a stupid media that I can’t even remember the last time they accurately predicted anything that the Eagles would do
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Bet Nick is chilling laughing at our stupidity.. Jackass media member might overlook Molk being blown up into his lap on every other pass play, but Nick knows that the coaches know what happened, and how much contributed to his rough season that wasn’t his fault…
Jeff Stoutland and Jerry Azzinaro had ZERO NFL experience when Chip hired them to coach OL and DL.
Prior experience is only part of the equation.
I have no clue why you would respond to my post like that. Where did I even mention NFL experience? Think u r confused
Oh for crying out loud. This from Explorer51 on 24/7:
Before we s**t all over the new QB coach, a few things to consider:
*Can anyone name 5 other QB coaches in the NFL without googling? I looked up the other 31 teams coaching rosters, because I have a membership in time-suck.com, and aside from a few ex-head coaches like Josh McDaniels in NE (who is also OC) and recently hired Marty M in Baltimore, it’s a mash-up of recycled, keep your suitcase packed, demoted OC types and a handful of young “assistant quality control” and Former TE coaches.
*Is it any surprise that a guy like Chip Kelly…who was the OC at New Hampshire only eight years ago and is the poster boy for a quick, non-traditional route to the NFL as a HC…would hire someone he thinks is bright and has a lot of potential? That he, and the OC Shurmur, will be working very closely with?
*We always look at a move in real-time; knowing that CK is an encyclopedic thinker (particularly on the offensive side of the ball), isn’t it likely that he already has replacement possibilities for every coach in his staff filed away in his brain’s hard drive? When someone is hired in three days, that is proof that it was a pre-determined move…think interview, offer, accept offer, tell current employer you’re leaving, write and prepare announcement…all while Kelly is busy at Senior Bowl among other things.
Here is Ryan Day’s bio on the Boston College site leading into the 2014 season; below the link there is an excerpt from said bio which shows interesting promise:
http://www.bceagles.com/sports…
“Directed the Eagle offense to a 96.9 percent red-zone conversion rate in 2013, a mark good for second among all programs in the nation; team scored on 32-of-33 trips into the red zone.”
Think people. Think about the Philadelphia Eagles trips into the RZ last season. Of course the failures were not all on the QB, but some were.
He was a QB in college…..
If your playing career is so important, you could have signed Garcia. Maybe Michael Vick will be available soon…
In other news. Maclin said he won’t cut his hair until he gets his new contract. Let’s hope this doesn’t get Ludacris…
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee136/suwarnaadi/ludacrisAfroHair.jpg
Accidentally upvoted. Here are some real musicians, some with afros.
http://funkyimg.com/u2/444/987/A-14898-1104172936.jpg
Yes, but not a pun.
@Baloophi – So how do you feel about a fundraiser this summer for the Eagles charity? I found a race in Palmerton, which is about 90 min from Philly. The race is in July, so if others do it – they have enough time to train for it. Roughly 3-4 miles. It’ll be on a Saturday and these races are pretty fun. They’re not that long and you get beer when you finish!
https://www.crowdrise.com/SpartanRace
I’m game.
Nice. I’m going to keep a list. Hopefully Baloophi will see this.
He’s actually an LA guy.
Awww man. He probably just woke up.
Sadly Im too far away, would be super fun tho
Good idea…I’m down
I dunno about this guy at all so I can’t be mad. What I am being a Negadelphian about is that Jeff Garcia was interested. I however don’t know if thats a rumor or not but if it wasn’t a rumor color me bummed.
JG was on the Radio the other day saying he wanted to be the Eagles QB coach.. and if not the eagles he wants to be a QB coach somewhere..
He should have been the guy! I love me some JG
I want a date with Megan Fox! And if not Megan Fox, I want to date someone, somewhere.
Maybe he presented it better on the radio, but that sounds kind of pathetic…
It didnt sound awful on the radio, but it didnt sound great… but it was a sales pitch none the less.
I think Garcia has the makings of a good coach. i have no idea if he got an interview or not, but I don’t blame him for campaigning.
Go Seahawks!
Shut up
Please feel free to elaborate, darling.
Just salty the we can’t say go eagles because they blow
Got ya. I don’t like either team either, however I simply cannot root for NE. Pick your poison, I guess.
that about says it all.
I don’t like either team, but that is hilarious 😀
Replace Austin Powers with Tom Brady, and this is roughly how the press conference went yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1__MPUKhZ4I
It’s crazy to me that people are so upset over a QB coach, especially one none of us had ever heard of. People just need something to get worked up over, I guess.
That’s how tommys blog gets 1000 comments a day, bc we are crazy
Anyone who has proven superior as an NFL QB coach would have been promoted out of the position by now. It’s the Peter Principle at work.
How about this nugget from Birds 24/7:
He also has no QB coach experience at any level. This isn’t to say he can’t do the job, but there’s certainly no evidence from the outside to say he can.
Add to that he’s an old Chip Kelly friend, and it reminds a lot of people of his “Oregon bias” when drafting or signing FA’s.
I know there are a lot of people here who reflexively defend everything Chip Kelly does, but this hiring isn’t a big confidence booster. We’ll see how it works out.
There is also a nugget on 24/7 about the OTHER quarterback coaches in the NFL.
Couldn’t find it. The only seem that seems to be trending over there is that if you can’t name any other QB coaches, by default Day must be a good hire?
The point was that those who cannot name any other QB coaches are also not qualified to judge this one.
That’s hilarious. How is that even an argument? The complaint isn’t that we didn’t get a “name.” It’s that his resume doesn’t show any relevant qualifications for this job in the NFL.
I imagine I could show on the other QB coaches’ resumes how they were qualified for their job. One simply cannot do that with Day’s resume.
I’m not saying he ISN’T qualified. But it’s going to take a wait-and-see approach before we know for sure.
I wonder how different it is coaching QB’s for the Eagles than a more traditional team. IE a WCO guy you would think would be big on the 5 and 7 step drop and have most of his fundamentals and mechanics based on that, etc. Ultimately the coach has to be a great teacher and communicator, work through issues with his QB’s more than having a bunch of tricks of the trade.
The other part is that “great coach” is not measured on a linear scale. Howard Mudd was a fantastic O-line coach for Jason Kelce, Jason peters, and Evan Mathis, but the worst possible O-line coach for Danny Watkins.
Jim Washburn worked well with all of his linemen, but terribly with the staff and created a toxic environment for this team.
Bobby April was a wonderful special teams coach, the best in the business by many accounts, but it didn’t work out with this team for whatever reason. Maybe it was the culture or roster, who knows?
Every coach works differently, we just need one that works very well with Chip and Nick. He needs to find a way to get his QB doing what Chip wants, and be effective at correcting mistakes that pop up, whatever that takes, creativity, tough love, strict structure, sports psychology, rational methodology, deflating footballs, whatever works. There is not a real good way for any of us outsiders to predict the outcome of a hire since we know nothing but names and bio’s.
A guy like Foles already knows what he is supposed to do, but it’s a lot to think about in a short moment of time. When he starts making mistakes someone needs to be able to quickly diagnose what he’s doing wrong and communicate it to him.
Exactly, it’s definitely not easy. But whatever it takes to tangibly improve, I’d imagine the approach to doing the job well changes for every QB you work with.
It has to.
Pissed our OL coaches,couldn’t get what the Chagers are able to get out of King Dunlap
how hard is it for the NFL to talk to the equipment guy on the Pats’ sideline last week who handled the footballs? This isn’t the toughest riddle ever.
Can’t wait to find out that the Gillette company is behind DeflateGate so they could get millions of dollars of free advertising for their FlexBall razors.
there’s just no reason for this to remain out there as an unsolved mystery.
Sure there is. If it’s resolved before the Super Bowl some people may demand punishment for the Super Bowl itself. I’m guessing the league wants to deal with this over the summer.
right that’s exactly it. But then why waste time on press conferences with Tom Brady etc. Or Peter King has written like 5 articles without once suggesting that someone talk to the ball boy. This isn’t who built Stonehedge.
Like Ray Rice, they don’t actually really want to know what happened. Hopefully TMZ is doing the necessary work.
A Brady press conference draws viewers. More viewers = more advertising dollars. Also, takes attention away from the pattern of the Patriots skirting the rules, over 10 years.
Anyone else interested in the Saints’ ongoing drama?
http://deadspin.com/suit-saints-owner-tom-benson-is-being-manipulated-by-h-1681345399
Wow. That’s crazy.
Saints tell the Eagles “You think you have front office dysfunction? We’ll show you dysfunction.”
Hopefully they give everything to the daughter and send that crazy lady to jail.
Today in three years time…
With Dawk coming back from retirement. Lol
imagine that
Mariota needs to pull an Elway/Manning and just refuse to play for who drafts him.
yeah how does that really work? seems odd it doesn’t happen more but it sure would be cool if MM only wants to be with Chip.
In theory just tell he wont sign the contract
Homie is finally back from family vacation, wonder if we ever see Howie do another interview during the chip era?
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Hearing we are going to make a 2nd extension offer to BG, but it’s going to be tough to get BG to give up his right to see whats out there for him on the open market…,but atleast we are still trying to work this out but the Eagles will probably need BG to decide soon because we need to make some decisions about Cole and there is no chance of us bringing back Cole AND BG
Hearing
hear, hear.. lol! Who whispered that rumor?
I post facts kid. I leave the rumors to th gossipy bitches… I’m sure someone in our media will find out and post it within the next 7 days.
God, you’re like the real-life bastard love-child of Collin Cowherd and PFTCommenter. Brilliant.
If it was raised by Skip Bayless.
The more I think about it, the more I believe you are indeed Brandon Graham himself!!
so I guess he lied about wanting to stay in philly.
I’d love to stay in my hometown, but $$ (among other things) is better elsewhere.
Not necessarily.. Edge rushers get CRAZy money on the open market..BG was smart enough to turn down the first offer, and now they are making him a new one…could just be a negotiation tactic…, wish we could find out the guaranteed figures for the offers to know if we are making SERIOUS offers, or some ridiculous low ball offer..but the fact that the counter offer is coming, shows some real interest…
we need edge rushers too.
we let BG walk now we need another one?
pay the man
Highly doubt we lose both BG and COle… 1 will be brought back..
fairly confident BG is ahead of Trent on our wish list, but if we can’t get BG to agree on an extension it becomes important to get COle under contract as a stop gap to smooth the transition to the next era of young eagle edge rushers
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No matter how good our starting edge rushers will ever be, we NEED more than two quality OLBs.. Like DL, it’s a position we are better off using a rotation for instead of playing two OLBs 90% of the snaps..
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Figure we know for a fact Marcus amd Barwin will be here next year, Braman will also be here but I don’t even count him as an OLB…..so we need to get two more OLBs under contract…l whether it’s renegotiating with COle, extending BG, trading for Dion Jordan, drafting an OLB in the first two rounds, breaking the piggy bank open for a super expensive OLB free agent like Justin Houston…
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Something NEEDS to be done to add TWO OLBs in addition to Barwin and Maecus… Ideally, 1 would be a youmg OLB and the other would be a 3,4,5 year veteran…… OLB is one off he most important positions on our defense. If we get elite production from that position it can make life easier for so many of our other defenders… Two OLBs we are comfortable playing in a game. Isnt anywhere close to enough… Like last year, we Need ATleast a 3 quality OLB rotation…
If BG walks and Cole is released, how would you feel if we went after Jason Worilds from PIT or Jabal Sheard from CLE?
Could be cheaper on balance than having two bodies. T. Cole is going to regress he already doesn’t offer a ton in pass rush / coverage. BG will obviously get better but i don’t think he was a super high ceiling for 34 OLB considering what we’d likely have to pay.
I wanted to trade BG for Jabaal Sheard two years ago when chip first signed with us…
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Worlids won’t be an eagle. We went after him last year, if we didn’t sign him last year, doubt we would sigń him this year…. More so because I don’t expect the steelers to let him get away…
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I like Sheard since his days at Pitt, but I liked him much more two years ago if we could trade for hm, then I like him now that we have to give him 20mil guaranteed to have any chance at getting him under contract… Sheard is a guy, I keep waiting to have a break out season, but for one reason or anther it’s not happening, whether its injuries or having other players at his position…… I do LIKE THE KID, and the violent nature he plays the position with, but I have a feeling, I won’t Like him for the type of contract it will take to get him to sign….. I don’t know how I feel about giving him an Everson Griffin type deal….. I do like him, I just don’t like him at ANY PRICE… I feel like the money it would take to get Sheard or Worlids to sign, would be enough to keep BG in Philly, and I trust BGs chemistry with our guys, I trust BGs work ethic, I trust BG being willing to play special teams and Sacrafice whatever for the good of the team….. For what it’s going to cost, I would feel much better continuing wifh BGs continuity, than to lose him for Worlids or Sheard…
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I see something in BG THS yeàr… We didn’t recover all of them, but he started to consistently force fumbles, whether he was hitting a QBs throwing arm, or punching out of a RBs grasp, I rwlly really like what I saw in BG this year.
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So while I wouldn’t be upset to see Sheard or Worlids become an Eagle, I would rather have B dot Grizzle
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Keeping my eyes on MichealJohnson… I wanted to sign him last year, the Bucs signed him, but might release him this offseason, if that’s the case, and his price tag will be cheaper than last year, that’s who I would like to take a look at,,,
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Or we can just break the piggy bank open, sigń Houston and call it a day lol. LOVE THAT GUY. WISH HE DIDNT COST SO MUCH DAMN MONEY!
First and foremost I am hoping BG would resign just based on the familiarity of the defense. But if he doesn’t I’m just exploring the other options. Worilds last year was hit with the transition tag so we would have had to give up a 2nd round pick on top of the contract we would have had to give him which would of been terrible. This year I believe he had 9 sacks but also play very stout against the run. I do tend to agree that even the cao hell the Steelers are in they cannot afford to lose a young, talented OLB. Now onto to Sheard, I agree with you whole heartedly on him 2 years ago I liked his game a lot. It seems like a lot of the players in that CLE front 7 began to regress at the same time. Sheard, Mingo, Phil Taylor so I don’t know if it was the players or the scheme. I don’t think he would cost too too much I think if BG refuses to resign whatever the contract was that they offered him Sheard would take to play for a contender.
I assume BG and Sheard will end up signing similar deals, with Worlids being a little more lucrative.. So I would assume that if we are willing to spend what it takes to sigń Worlids, we can probabky come to terms with BG. Also thinking Worlids remains a Steeler, with Sheard having the better of changing teams..
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ultimately I will be thrilled to see us sigń any of the 3..but since I view them as similar takents, I would much prefer continuining to buld our chemistry and continuity with BG who has grown tremendously over the course of these last two seasons. But for some reason if we can keep BG, either Sheard or Worlids would work for me…
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Really have my eye on Micheal Jhnsn, who I wanted last year but the Bucs threw stupid money at him, but since his sack total was underwhelming, some are questioning if The Bucs end up cutting him already. If that happens, and we can sign him to reasonable money, I’d be interested for sure…
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It’s impotat when we have these discussions to remember that teams care about having a good mix of youth and veterans at each position,and they care about how much money they are spending on a certain position.. So:
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1) Barwin is a veteran, wh will be paid nicely and will remain an eagle for ATleast 3 more years no matter what his contract says today.
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2) Marcus Smith is a second year player on an affordable 1st round rookie contract.
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Spots 3 and 4 can be filled with a guy entering his second contract, and a guy who is still on a rookie contract,,,..The Eagles are going to want to use 3-4 OLBs in each game, so if we lose BG, restructiuring Trent Cole, and cutting down his anaps could be an option….but it also makes sense to trade for a guy like Dion Jordan, who you still have a year or two of affordable rookie contract salary before you have to extend him……. Eagles are going to want to get another young OLB in here this year or next year… Wouldn’t mind aomethng like:
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Barwin and COle starting next year, with Marcus and Dion rotating in for 30-40% of the snaps….. We will lose Vinny Curry after next season, if we can trade him for A young edge rusher that could fit here long term, we would have to strongly consider it….. Barwin/COle with Marcus/Dion backing them up, fits in every way just about. Good mixture of youth and experience, affordable considering how expensive OLBs can be. Versatiliry to be able to do all kinds of things in coverage having Barwn, Dion and Marcus who can all cover….. it Doesn’t even neccessarily have to be Dion Jordan, it can be another young edge rusher from another team… I would mention Shea McClelin, but the Bears hired the chargers 3-4 DC, so I have a feeling he will want to keep Shea, instead of Vinny Curry a 4-3 DE…
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We have 2 OLBs under comtract(Barwin, Marcus), since I dont count Braman. We need two more! Whether it’s a veteran like BG or Sheard who we sigń going into their second contract, or we can do a two year stopgap(that we can get out of after 1 year) with an older guy like Trent Cole or Tamba Hali…. And for the second OLB, we either spend a 2nd/3rd round pick on someone like Macus Smiths room,ate Lorenzo Mauldin, or we can save a draft pick for other position and trade Vinny Curry for a young OLB still on his rookie contract
I still got small hopes that Jerry Hughes will hit the open market…
No…,they are close to announcing an extension for him…. He staying in Buffalo 100%, love that’Dude, I watched almost every snap the buffalo defense took these past two seasons.l
That d-line is downright nasty.
Yeah it is!!! Think how good they will be when they get Kiko back.. Like us, a lot of their beasts are still puppies who will grow into better players…. That Defense is so Nasy, I tend to forget they have Mario Williams who is a darn good player..
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Looks like Orakpo won’t be a skin next year. And Ahmad Brooks will either replace Orakpo in DC or follow Fangio to the Bears.
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I NEVER LIKED Bjoern Werner, never thought of him as a quality pro… Last week the Colts didnt let him dress for the AFC championship… After two FULL SEASONS their first round pick ismt even dressing for an AFC championship, and our fans were already ripping arcus in October for not playing lol
Dude 3 pro-bowlers on that d-line is sick. If Kiko can come back to full strength mannnn that defense is going to be fully shutdown defense.
Yea I don’t see DC paying Orakpo when they know they eventually will have to pay the better player in Kerrigan. I definitely see Brooks going to DC because of the new GM. Have also heard they would be open to bringing in Gore and Davis if they release him lol. Honestly I still wouldn’t be worried bout the LOLskins even if they get those 3 players.
Ohhh man let’s not even start with Werner lol, I thought he was overrated coming out of Florida State. I was never one to jump on the MSII is a bust train like most pessimistic Eagles fans but yea man what would half of those fans think if Werner played for us. People really don’t understand that OLBs can take time to develop. Everyone clamoring for Jerry Hughes should remember that at one point in time he was considered a bust by the Colts because he couldn’t hack it. Look at him now a pro bowler on the verge of a huge contract.
Great post man
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Hoo ONE wanted the Eagles to draft “Maaaarcus Daaarling” more than I did
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Yet I bet you can pick a random archive from a year ago and you will find a post of me talking about the Eagles needing to draft Marcus Smith because he will need a year to get strong enough to transition to the NFL, and we needed to draft him LAST YEAR, so he can be ready for THIS YEAR when we knew we would lose COle or BG…. if I knew Marcus wasmt going to provide much as a rookie, you can bet the Eagles knew he owuldnt make an instant impact… We drafted him, expecting that he needed time, so it takes a real Hack, pathetic, ignorant, crumb of a media member witj no understanding of the Eagles to turn fans against Marcus calling him a bust since October…….. Instead of the media doing their fucking job and actually EDUCATING FANS about how OLB, NT. CB typically need a year to grow into the NFL transition. Instead of explaining to fans, he was a raw high upsode Talent who we needed to groom to be ready to take over for BG and COle this year, they ripped marcus from the moment he was drafted til now……ignorant, pathetic, hack media
Couldn’t of said it any better myself brother.
Don’t necessarily disagree with you, but 100%?! That’s a bold statement, even for Nostradamus. 😉
From another site:
“I saw a thing on Pete Carroll last night. Between 2010 and 2013, he and his GM made TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-FOUR personnel changes. They obviously did not agonize over 1 FA corner here or 1 OLB there. The Seattle defense is not an accident. It is a conglomeration of late-round picks, UDFAs, FAs. CFL players, etc. Most importantly, it is a GROUP who work TOGETHER. The offense is much the same. They were fortunate in getting #3, but even he is a team player. This is probably Chip’s preferred method, too. TEAM culture, nor cherry-picking some overpaid FA at one position. Didn’t anybody learn anything last year about high-priced ‘islands”?
Yea well we also don’t have the talent or the scheme to be even mentioned on Seattle’s level of defense. Now in no way would Worilds and Sheard be considered “high priced islands”. But my point is if BG walks you need to have a backup plan in place and you have to explore the options available. Or from how you’re making it sound if BG leaves I guess we’re solid with Barwin, Cole (if he restructures), and MSII?
“Between 2010 and 2013, he and his GM made TWO HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-FOUR personnel changes […] This is probably Chip’s preferred method, too.”
Well, we already know that Chip isn’t a hire and fire guy.
By now, every single person posting on this site should know that we won’t ever hear accurate leaks about which prospects the Eagles are really planning to go after. Any lack jerkoff like Elliot Parker who claims he has a source telling him who the Eagles REALLY love in the draft is either a liar, or dumb enough to think he is getting real Intel from a regime that hasn’t leaked anything. Especiallywhen the Eagles haven’t even set their big board yet…
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Any jerkoff media hack who claims that a credible source is telling him who the Eagles really want to draft is a damn liar… None of these hacks barely knew who Marcus smith was this time last year….if you want to know who the Eagles will covet in the draft, your only hope is to put in the work yourself, take close looks at prospects and see which ones check off most of the boxes of what we know the Eagles value at each position.
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Not a single media member said we wanted Marcus smith last year, but a few of us on this site took what we new the Eagles value in an OLB and figured out he would be on our wish list….. Any media member who tells you he has a source leaking who the Eagles want in the draft is either a liar or a sucker, either way, we are better off not even hearing the opinions of worthless blowhards like that
Looking at numbers at the bottom of the roster hopefully we get some rotation down there — don’t need to see Smith and Maehl making free money for another year.
STers, man. Most valuable roster spots.
Nice name.
Thanks. Just like Chip: 6 jobs, not tired.
Don’t be ignorant and act like Brad Smith hasn’t been contributing to this team… I get the Jeff Maehl hate, but there is no reason to bash Brad smith and what he brought to this team…..
Let’s also not be ignorant and overstate his contribution. He’s a good ST’er. He’s also replaceable at this point.
Once we upgrade Maehl, I would gladly turn our attention to upgrading Brad
Fair enough.
Hopefully we get lucky and both are upgraded
C’mon. I liked smith, thought he’d become a bigger part of the offense, but he’s become a smaller one. ST is great, but there’s plenty of people that can learn that position while providing upside. I’m not saying it will happen just that it would be nice if we were able to upgrade the position instead of having ST lifers.
You thought Brad smith was going to be a bigger part of the offense? What in the world ever gave you that idea?
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He was a very solid special teams player for us, and his ability to be our emergency QB made it so we only needed to dress two QBs on game day…
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he isn’t irreplaceable.. But if you had realistic expectations he did a solid job… Certainly not the caliber player we should be arguing over whether he stays or goes… is his contract up? I’m not sure we will waive him, but when his contract expires I would assume we let him walk…
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Once we upgrade Jeff Maehl, I will gladly start talking about upgrading Brad Smith..
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But what I can’t stomach, would be upgrading Brad Smith, but bringing Maehl back…that woulld piss me off.
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From a team building stand point, I believe in upgrading the last man on the depth chart at a position first, and then work our way Up the depth chart.
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I can’t confidentky say that the Eagles will get two new WRs this offseason.. I can safely assume we add 1, but I would much prefer Maehl being upgraded before Brad….. And if we can get two NEW WRs, Id love to upgrade both Maehl amd Brad, just not sure if that’s going to happen this offseason..
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.Coop needs to be brought back for his last season as an Eagle, so he will be upgraded next year
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But from a roster building stand point, we could upgrade 3 WR spots these next two years, assuming we extend Maclin..
Agree with all of that. Why did i think we’d see more brad smith. We did some red zone stuff with him in year 1 – execution wasn’t successful but i think the play designs worked, i would have liked to see more of that. i think he knows all of the WR positions but he just might not be talented enough to see the field considering who we put out in 3w sets and how much we used TEs last year.
He’s getting up there, too.
You are right, we could have rationally expected more red zone packages for him, especially of the “Trick play” Variety, but for some reason we didn’t even try an trick plays this year which I found weird.. You were right to have expected more in that capacity, I was thinking you were talking about not seeing him in a traditional WR role like we use Coop and Maclin
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You bring up an interesting discussion. Yeàr 1, chip was showing a lot of tricks, even attempting the “swinging gate” this year we saw NONE of THAT, and I’m sure that surprised everyone…. Weird that last year we were trying to use Brad as a redzone QB a few weeks after we signed him, yet this year we had a full pffseason for chip to work with him, and we didn’t even attempt any trickery…
I want the swinging gate back. You think the Cowboys are ready for that?
Lol..
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I’m surprised Bellicek and not,Chip was the one to have his offense lineup in a formation never seen in the NFL before… I forget who did the Patriots do that against? Was it the Ravens game, or the game before that?
Ravens game. and the ineligible WR who lined up wide at the snap took a few steps back and held his hands up like a quick pass was coming to him.
Thanks…. Hopefully once our OL gets back to an elite level we will see some more creativity out of Chip…. I’m still salty over the reverse,TD that got called back in year one because our QB threw a block illegally… That would have been such an awesome play
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heck. BOTH the Patriots and Seahawks, NEEDED TO GET CREATIVE and Bust out some trickery to get to the SUPERBOWL. trick plays had a big role in these two teams making it this far
I think chip will get a speedster deep threat on the team this year.
its obvious every team needs one.
Who is the WR for Miami who is running his mouth claiming that he will run a 4.21 at the combine, which is faster than even Desean?
that’s the ballpark speed we need.
does he have hands like djax?
Didn’t watch his team at all this year, and I have a lot of homework to do before I can speak on him… But I’m def intruiged enoufh by that type of speed to take a closer look
Phillip Dorsett is who you’re talking about brotha. Apparently he’s been clocked at around 4.34 at the senior bowl. He was also measured at 5’9 so I don’t know if he’d be a Chip target but I will tell you that the kid can really fly. Also read that players that fast don’t usually look to good getting in and out of there cuts but I been hearing and reading that this kid has very good route running ability and very fluid getting in and out of his cuts. This is a little ridiculous but he is drawing comparisons to Antonio Brown and TY Hilton.
That’s him, thanks… I haven’t done my homework on the kid yet, but I definitely will take a closer look at him…and I didn’t watch much of miami this year…. If I don’t think a kid has any chance at fitting with the Eagles I won’t spend time taking a look at him, and we know we won’t be adding many 5’9 weapons under chip, but the addition of Sproles shows we are willing to break the big people guideline if a,guy brings some special ability to the table, and 4.21 blazing speed would most likely fit that criteria… You don’t sneeze at 4.34 speed no matter what size it comes in, and if he has 4.21 ability in hm, I’ll take him if he is 4’9 LOL
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Def going to be a WR that I do my homework on… If you are right about his speed translating to getting in and out of his breaks. That makes him really intruiging…Gotta get an idea how polished/raw his route running ability is? What are his hands like? Type of special team versatility does he bring to the table? Character? Football Intelligence…what round is he beng mocked in?
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Drafting this kid won’t be Coops eventual replacement. We will still have to add a Big Body WR who Likes to block at some point these next two offseasons to replace Cooper…but I wouldn’t mind givng Maehls spot to A kid like him who won’t start, but can bring some crazy speed,stretch the field, deep threat for like 15 snaps a game..
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definitely going on my list of WRs to do my Homework on…. We will still need a Cordarrel type to replace Coop opposite of Maclin, or a big body Evans, Kelvn Benjamin type…. But a specialty burner who can fly wouldn’t be a bad weapon to have in our arsenal
could we do a v. curry / patterson trade? he doesn’t have man fans in Minny. Though Huff might fill that role.
We won’t be able to keep Vinny in Philly past this season, but young talented pass rushers are very valuable, and edge rushers is a very expensive position to fill… It’s one off he highest paid positions in free agency which is why all the good pass rushers get gobbled up quickly in the first two rounds of the draft…….Vinny is too good to stay in Philly… Some 4-3 team will love to have him play 80% of the snaps, no way he accepts sitting on our bench playing 30% of snaps, especially since we won’t offer him anything close to what a 4-3 team can pay him to start…
ideally I would like to trade Vinny for a young edge rusher that fits well enough to extend long term….. But if we can’t get Dion Jordan or a quality young OlLB, we should def try to trade Vinny to fill some other need…if we traded ih im for a WR like Cordarrel, it can save us from having to use a pick on a WR….
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Curry is too good to lose hm after this year for nothing. If we have to watch him blowup for some 4-3 team, hopefully we get something out of it… Use him to fill a need…..there is an argument to let him walk and get a compensatory pick, but what if we want to be aggressive in free agency next year? If we sign a bunch of players it subtracts from the compensatory pick equation and we can end up with meager compensation,….. Vinny Curry can be a monster opposite Cameron wake playing 80% of the snaps from the Dolphins, and we can use Dins natural OLB ability,… .. If we can’t get Dion turn to another young OLB, if we can’t get a young OLB, look for a young CB, S, OL, ILB in return..or yu can trade him for a draft pick, like a 3rd that can become a 2nd or even a 1st round pick depending n how much he blows up for his new team who will give him snaps in a scheme that better fit him
I wonder if every team once in a while, kills a draft (2012 for us) and then just needs to capitalize on what they have. Shame we have so much good talent (vinny, BG, boykin) that just aren’t system fits. Be nice to be able to capitalize on those guys.
Anon:
Capital point.
The cost of changing coaches with firm ideas that aren’t talent-centric
GEagle . . .
Daje!
And think about the Mariota talk and the cost some think Kelly would pay.
For a LOT less, Kelly could get DJordan and go with Foles.
I won’t even have another ridiculous Marriotta convo.. This is the last time you see his name appear in one of my posts… Wasted enough time on a fairy tale… FOles is the QB PERIOD, no point in having this discussion with me, because my oppinipn won’t change… Kid is LEGIT, if I KNOW IT, Chip KNOWS IT, and sooner or later so will every one else… 😉
Was hoping for more love going Dion’s way — and the more on the impact it’d have on the “D”.
LOL not only do I think Dion will be an eagle, I almost to the point where I will be surprised if he ismt an eagle this year.
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GM, head coach. defensive coordinator all on the Dolphin hot seat. Unless obvious improvement is made, they will be fired… THEY ARENT changing the defense so they can’t really expecs a square peg to all of the sudden fit In a round hole…
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The current GM didnt draft Dion, Jeff Irelans was the jackass who traded up for an OLB, when they play a 4-3 and they could have taken Ziggy Ansah, perfect 4-3 DE… You know what’s a really good way to get some points from your owner and try to save your Job? Fix the previous Boneheaded GMs major Mistake, amd trade their 1st round BUST, for a young edge rusher who is the perfect fit in their 4-3 scheme, who could end up blowing up and having a monster year playing opposite of Cameron Wake…
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Take a 1st round bust they traded up for, and turn him into a quality edge rusher that fits their scheme MUCh BETTER is a very nice start for trying to save your job…
I for some reason doubt dion will ever be an eagle.
I feel like no way it happens
Bet you a beer at a preseason game or something that Dion Jordan will be an eagle by training camp 😉
I’ve watched a decent amount of Miami games and the kid is definitely a baller. Now I am no expert scout but he can definitely have some success in the league if he is used correctly. There is no question that his speed is world class. I’ve never heard of him having any off field or attitude problems and have generally been hearing he is a pretty high character guy so that’s one thing that Chip would like. His route is awesome that’s for sure. From what I hear living in central jersey the Jets are showing serious interest in him as a possible day 2 pick.
Nice….much appreciated….
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I would really really love to have Ohio State’s Wr Devin Smith as our deep ball threat to blow the top off a defense opposite of Maclin…. But he will cost a 1st or 2nd round pick, so if we can’t get Devin, or if we want to replace Coop with a big mike Evans, Kelvin Banjamin type opposite Maclin, we could go with a speed specialist like Dorsett Off our bench, kind of how seattle used Paul Richardson, or how the Saints will often send Stills deep
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Since we will lose Curry after this season, I wouldn’t mind trying to trade him for a young OLB like Dion or a young WR like Cordarrel, who are still on rookie contracts but who we can keep Longterm… Shame, we missed out on Martevis BRyant, could have taken care of our deep ball threat for the next 5 years
Bllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, gonna be a long offseason
Perhaps the time would move along more quickly for you if you were rooting for another team?
Not everyone wakes up one day and decides to root for a new team like you
I actually decided to root for a new team in the worst part of the 90s. But I just couldn’t get into it…
Huh? What are you and the guys who upvoted smoking?
Because he said it will be a long off season and you said get a new team, as if someone would change teams simply because of along off season
Mostly waiting on free agency, every other phily team sucks.
Haha, anyone else catch Tom Brady’s presser today? He looked like a little schoolboy caught in a lie by his teacher.
Wonder how far back in the season he was having the balls deflated.
The Colts were gonna get gobsmacked anyhow, but if I was the Ravens I’d be PISSED about it.
Wait what? You mean yesterday’s press conference when he was lying the entire time? Or did he do a new press conference today?
I think I’m referring to yesterday’s, I might be wrong I’ve been real busy with work lately.
Whichever one where he looked sheepish as shit, almost like he was afraid the principle was going to give him detention. What a tool.
There were apparently complaints after the first colts game.
Yes, but who’s to say even that was the first time? I wonder if the ball deflation happened to coincide with I don’t know… a certain blowout at the hands of the Kansas City Chiefs?
I made that assertion earlier — i do think that’s probably right. B/c he looked terrible and then the rest of the season he looked great.
Yeah you are talking about yesterday’s, when Brady was lying tnru his teeth the entire time, pretending balls are no big deal for him, when anyone who has ever playef knows how Obssessed QBs, Kickers and Punters are about the conditions of the balls they use. You don’t become one of the best QBs of all time without attention To every detail… You can bet your ass Tom Brady mKes an issue over what ball they use every single week like the kickers and punters do..
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Bellicek is. Liar, dude knows how many paper clips are in the entire building. And he knows out of all the paper clips how many are in each office… There isn’t anything that happens in NE that bill doesn’t know about… You don’t become GREAT without the attention to every detail… You can bet your ass that there is no “Rogue Ball Boy” who did this on his own,…
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And Btw, what Bill Bellicek Knew and didn’t know shouldnt even friggin matter. Goodell suspended Sean Peyton for an entire year citing “Not Knowing, isn’t an acceptable excuse”… So how the fuck can not knowing, save a multi time offender like bellicheat? Someone needs to get in trouble
Trouble has come. If nothing official happens, if Goodel says 200k, 300k, half a million – it doesn’t matter. Robert Kraft and BB already know that the perception is deeply ingrained in the psyche of the NFL rank and file and the NFL fans. NE has become the franchise version of Barry Bonds. “Put an asterisk next to every win, because they are known card counters”.
Baylor redshirt senior QB Bryce Petty told Newsday.com this week that he feels like he’s the No. 1 quarterback in the draft
http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/baylor-qb-bryce-petty-says-he-belongs-in-same-company-as-jameis-winston-and-marcus-mariota-1.9831570
LOL
I guess if you don’t believe it no one else will. I bet RW thought he was the best too.
Putting that in context Pete Carroll really is an amazing coach (obviously there’s a ton of luck there having a couple of great drafts and then getting a franchise QB in the 3rd) but to win so many games so quickly and to build a dominant defense with basically 2 drafts is amazing.
Gotta hope that our offense can be as good as SEA’s defense.
Some luck in that too. I’ve never seen a team hit on so many UDFAs and late round picks. Obviously a lot with coaching and scheme too. Schneider is great at getting what Pete wants.
Should,he say he thinks he is the 13th best QB in the draft?
Yeah honestly, I’d have a problem if he didn’t say he was the best. ” Nah I think I’m 4th and Mariota, Winston and Hundley, theyre just better than me. ” like us that what he’s expected to say lol
Lol right
Re: Steelers’ FA OLB Jason Worilds — A Target?
Someone asked whether the Eagles would have interest in the Steelers’ soon-to-be 27 year-old, repeat FA OLB Jason Worilds. (6’2″ 240lbs)
At least one local writer (at 24/7) thought the Eagles were interested last year.
http://www.phillymag.com/birds247/2014/03/07/eagles-showing-interest-johnson-neal/
But Pittsburgh never game them a chance.
On the first day of FA last off-season, the Steelers put the transition tag on JW at $9.75 for the 2014 season, which gave the Steelers five days to match any prospective offers.
And Worilds signed the offer sheet the next day — terminating the possibility of anyone making an offer.
JW’s a free agent and entering his 6th year. Doesn’t have a ton of wear and tear. Played more LOLB this season, and in more coverage, than the past.
8 sacks in 2013.
7.5 sacks in 2014 (plus 1 INT)
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WoriJa99.htm
Doubt it…. Most likely remain a Steeler
Can’t disagree
Do the Steelers have any OLBs left?
They dug into the retirement bin for Harrison!
Jarvis Jones… They are so weak old man Harisaon might be brought back for another year…
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They have so many major defensive needs, i can’t see them letting Worlids get away and creating another NEED at such an important Defensive position..
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We think we need a secondary? the steelers REALLY are a mess on the backend… We WANT two corners and a safety, they don’t even have a choice, THEY NEED TWO corners and a safety lol
What about DJordan?
Assuming Miami’d be willing to move him . . .
Do you think he’d be better than anyone the Eagles could get using whatever (non-1st round) pick would be needed?
If the answer’s yes, isn’t that an easy decision?
Possibly. His value has to be pretty low now.
I’d offer a 4th since we have two of them. Not much more than that
dion came into the NFL like Marcus Smith, a raw prospect who every GM knew needed a year to get strong enough to handle the transition to the NFL game…but then his development was complicated by the jackass team sticking him in a scheme THATS a complete waste of the talemt that made him a special prospects….
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Last years he got YOKED UP putting on some serious size and then he failed a drug test lol… I assume he is plenty strong enough to handle the NFL game now, so if we stick him in a acheme that is better suited for his talents, I think he is ready to go this year in a 3-4..
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I would feel confident going into the season withhout Barwin on one side, Dion and Marcus splitting snaps on the other side..
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With Dion, Marcus. Barwin. Kemdricks and possiblyanother Kendricks or 3 down ILB, that’s a LB corp with some serious freak ability in coverage allowing us to do all kind of stuff… We can blitz a different LB on every play and drop different LB into coverage eagle play because we would have so many LB capable in coverage…
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But Dion in our Defense, and I’m confident he is ready to start showing whyhe was so highly rated…. PS, he still guarded Gronk as a rookie,better than I have seen anyone match up with Gronk to this day….combine that to how Barwin shut down Jimmy Graham in the playpffs… Would Gve us some nice FLEXABILITY on defense…
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Vinny istoo talented to keep in philly….so trade him while we can, for a talemt that fits long term?.
Money still doesn’t make much sense for Miami to move him
Yeah yeah we’ll see about that
Poor drafting for all those years and poor cap management. Gotta give it to Howie, Banner taught him well.
They are in cap hell
Worilds would be a good fit, though I doubt it will happen.
Addition by subtraction? I like that he isn’t a retread, why not? Maybe he is the sport science (Huls – who Kelly had working for him back in College, which many players laud the benefits) of QB coaches? Also, funny(predictable) how the darling of these boards didn’t win the big one and ran to UM…
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“I think Chris Polian has a real shot [at the Eagles GM job.]” – @caplannfl on 97.5. “Probably has the best shot, but nothing’s done.”
I had Polian as last choice amongst all the reported candidates. I don’t really have a good basis for that, just going by the criticism he received from Colts fan and Colts media. I recognize that they aren’t the most unbiased parties and their perspective is skewed. The positive I will say is that he has a lot of experience. More on the pro personnel side than the college scouting side, but he’s also operated as a true GM before. The negative is that he was reported to be a divisive personality with the Colts. There were some similarities to the accusations made about him as there were the accusations made about Roseman. I freely recognize that the local media spin on both Roseman and Polian may be inaccurate but not really having a firm grasp on the positives that Polian brings(like I do with Roseman to some degree) I’m leery of bringing Polian in and having the same dysfunction continue. Of course, if Kelly hired Polian then I’d have faith that he did the necessary research to distinguish between the truth about Polian and how he’s been portrayed.
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Kelly would Polian the Younger and the whispers of Polian the Elder — for the price of one.
Pliny the elder. Greatest ipa imo
My local bottle shop / bar has lines out the door and down the block when they get some of it in.
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Would anyone take a flier on trent richardson? Could he be that bad?
No and yes.
No no no, you don’t love me and yes I I know now.
Huh? Are u Trent?
Yes and no. Just playing, mate. 😉
They looked like song lyrics, but I didn’t recognize them. Behold: the power of Google!
http://youtu.be/0mNPKNAQl4c
You, my friend, are da man!
I would consider it if we don’t draft a physical RB this year. We really need a more talented bruising RB. Tevin Coleman and Todd Gurley come to mind.
No way dude. Polk is the man. He hasn’t even missed many games, usually he just injured in the offseason. Trent would never beat out shady, sproles or Polk. Polk is the man, draft a RB whenever we are ready to wAive shady
You’re not bringing in Richardson to beat out Shady. You’re bringing him in to get short yards and have the ability to be the better blocker on 3rd downs. Richardson is the better 3 down back compared to Polk.
You are on crack if you think we would piss away Polk for Trent….. Give me a break with the nonsense
Why do you say that? The eye test and the numbers prove that Polk is more effective. Trent has NO vision and awarness, none.
Why? You have Polk for that role who is clearly talented and underused as it is.
Can Polk block as well as Richardson? You can be more creative with Richardson and not with Polk.
Crazy talk…. Sounds like you need to get some sleep bud
Sounds like you need to stop overrating players on this team.
Lol as if Polk isnt head n shoulders better than that bum Richardson who might not be on the NFL next year… I’d rather over rate OUR players, than a stone cold bum who plays for some other chump
No body said Polk was the next best thing, but he is better then Richardson. Its you that is over rating Richardson.
Im not sure about his blocking, however how can you be more creative with Richardson when he sucks at running?
Polk can block, no clue where this came from
I wasnt sure, however Polk can also catch, and is a better runner than Richardson so therefore you can be more creative and effective with Polk. There is a good chance Richardson may be out of league after this year. Having him on the Birds would be a downgrade. It is interesting though because Richardson does seem to have all the physical tools. I just dont think he has any vision, anticipation or patience that an NFL runner needs. That Bama Oline really made him look better then he was. He just relied competely on his physical tools in college.
I wouldn’t call someone with 57 carries and 6 receptions better than anyone.
I would because he makes the most out of each carry. I notice you left out the YPC and TDs. Also the KR for TD. I wouldnt call anyone that just blatantly fails multiple times better then anyone that has acctually shown potential. Polk scores on a very high percentage of his carries while having good YPC. Thats what you want in your short yardage back. He has filled that role very well when given chance. Richardson hasnt.
Shady must have sucked at running too when he had a bad OL.
Trent Richardson is now 3rd string. The reason is, is that the other RBs in front of him ran more effectively then he did behind the SAME line. Trent sucks. Comparing him to Shady in anyway is ridiculous. Shady has had ALOT of success in this league where Trent has had none. Dude he sucks, and i would take every RB on this team over him. Fail with one team, ok. Fail with two and on verge of falling out of the league, you probably arent NFL material. Polk blocks, runs, and catches better then him.
He did pretty well when Jeff Stoutland was his OL coach…
Also before he put on some more weight. Doesn’t even remotely look like the same player. Even from just his rookie year
No
Shortest GEAGLE comment ever?
Polk is better then him. Trent sucks.
I’m hoping Tommy is putting the finishing touches on a “players to watch today” post for the senior bowl.
Really cool to see our players from the probowl, as well as chips former player like Kyle Long, all talk up chip gaining power..they seem to all be Genuinly excited about chip winnng the power struggle… Kyle long basically said we will be even more dangerous now that chip has full control
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Few Eagles took the stance that “chip was the one calling all the shots anyway, so this isn’t really ANYTHNG new”
Eagles have the most probowlers in the NFC
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Hype for the senior bowl
What are your players to keep an eye on in today’s Senior Bowl! Will probably watch the game in my local bar and want to make notes.
NORTH Eagle targets:
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DANNY SHELTON NT!!!
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TY Montgomery WR
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Devin smith WR
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laken thomilson
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Kurtis Drummond
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Carl Davis DT IOWA
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Quinten Rollins DB
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Eric Rowe DB
South:
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sammie Coates WR
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Phillip Dorsett WR who claiming he will run a 4.21 at combine
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Cody Prewitt S
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Clayton Gaethers DB
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TY Sambrailo OL
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Denzel Perryman ILB
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Arie Kouandijo OG familiar with Stoutland
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Lorenzo Mauldin OLB
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Owamagbe Odighizuwa OLB
I personally will have a close eye on the DBs, especially Drummond and Rowe!
Both are realistic possibilities worth watching closely.. Drummond has been used in man to man defense enough to be realistically considered by the Eagles. Not my Fav safety. But he is up there
Can someone please tell me why Jeff frigging Maehl is on the cover of January in the Eagles calendar for 2015!!??
I was hoping someone else would have been in my Maehl box!!!
Anyone know what to make of this story about Maclin and his new agent not being able to get a deal done?
Nothing to it. All Caplan really seems to be saying is that if Maclin hadn’t changed agent a deal would already have been done, but now there’s an element of doubt about it.
His story doesn’t even make much sense because he’s basing this on Maclin’s change of agent, but a month ago he thought a deal was certain and it was *two* months ago Maclin ditched Dogra so…..
Unless Maclin’s asking for insane money or the Eagles like their chances of getting one of the other top FA WRs I doubt he’s going anywhere.
Agree i read his comments and i feel like he’s talking w/out really saying anything
Basically “I said a month ago he’d definitely stay. A month has gone by and he hasn’t signed yet, so best make up an excuse so I can walk back what I said just in case they don’t get a deal done”.
There’s nothing there about the Eagles not thinking Maclin’s worth it, or Maclin asking for crazy $s, just Caplan opening his mouth and letting his belly rumble.
Hoping Mac’s deal is done soon
No worries mate… Just a formality
Can we please hire Seth Joyner as LBs Coach? Our LBs need better coaching because they are not very good. Seth will at least teach them toughness and maybe he can convince Chip to draft an ILB or two.