We’re Happy For You, But…

Posted: January 30th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 235 Comments »

So Ed, congrats on the promotion. You must be stoked to be the Vice President of Player Personnel at age 30. I know, you’re almost 31, but still…that’s young. You should be really proud. So let’s go see your new office. You’ve also got more money and some real power with an NFL team. What an amazing time for you.

Oh and by the way…will we be winning the Super Bowl this year or next year?

Ok. Bye. Thanks.

The task at hand for Ed Marynowitz and Chip Kelly is to take the Eagles from being a good team to being a great team. All they have to do is solve the QB situation, fix the secondary and find another playmaker or two. Sounds easy, right? Heck, Jeff Lurie could have hired me for something that simple.

Or not.

There are a lot of different theories on how to build a championship roster. Study history and you’ll see a lot of different ideas that worked. To me, this is less about strategy and more about proper execution. You have to find the right guys.

There is a report about how Seattle figured out that 1st round picks are over-valued.

The Seattle Seahawks are one win away from their second straight Super Bowl championship and being crowned as a mini-dynasty.

The Seahawks have made this leap with just two first-round draft picks in the last four years. During the same stretch, the Seahawks were tied with the Baltimore Ravens for the most draft picks in rounds 2-5 (22).

What the Seahawks appear to have learned is that first-round picks are overrated and the most valuable picks actually come in the middle rounds.

This is what happens when you study results in a simplistic manner. You look at some numbers and come up with a theory that is seemingly logical. But it is also highly flawed.

Seattle has had some serious luck in building their roster. Think about the top 8 players on their roster.

Richard Sherman
Marshawn Lynch
Russell Wilson
Earl Thomas
Kam Chancellor
Bobby Wagner
Michael Bennett
Cliff Avril

There is one 1st round pick in that bunch. That’s a combination of great scouting and some luck. They needed players to fall in the draft so that they could take them late. They also hit on several guys that went from late rounders to game-changers. That is highly rare.

Richard Sherman – 5th round pick
Marshawn Lynch – 1st round pick by BUF…traded for 4th & 5th round picks
Russell Wilson – 3rd round pick
Earl Thomas – 1st round pick
Kam Chancellor – 5th round pick
Bobby Wagner – 2nd round pick
Michael Bennett – free agent…signed in 2013 for 1 year, $5M
Cliff Avril – free agent…signed in 2013 for 2 years, $13M

There is not much in the way of investment with those 8 players. The team only used one 1st round pick and they didn’t shell out mega-bucks in free agency. All 32 teams would love to do this, but it is an anomaly.

Seattle does have to get a lot of credit for being able to take these players and build them into a champion.

When you get around football people they love to start ripping players. This guy can’t do this. That guy can’t do that. Seattle seemed to look at the glass as half-full. “Tell me what the guy can do and let’s build around that.”

The Eagles have not done a good job the last 2 years of finding late round and UDFA talent. This is an area where Kelly and Marynowitz need to take a big step forward. Kelly and Roseman hit on Darren Sproles, Trey Burton and Cody Parkey and that fixed STs without having to make major investments. Now the Eagles need to find that kind of help for the offense and defense, even if we’re just talking about depth.

If you are going to build a great unit, you must find key contributors in odd places. Think back to Gang Green. Clyde Simmons was a 9th round pick. Seth Joyner was an 8th round pick. Byron Evans was a 4th round pick. Andre Waters was a UDFA. William Thomas was a 4th round pick.

The Eagles have only found one high quality starter in rounds 5-7 since 2008. That was Jason Kelce in 2011. This isn’t about just areas scouts or GMs or assistant coaches. It is a combination. The scouts need to be on the same page as the drafters, who need to be on the same page as the coaches. There is a symmetry. Seattle does a great job of this. The Eagles must improve and putting Chip Kelly in charge of things may be a big help. He knows what he wants.

The more I read about Marynowitz, the better I feel about the hire. I’ll have more on him over the weekend.

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New podcast from me and Jimmy Bama. Marynowitz, Foles, Mariota and Senior Bowl talk.


235 Comments on “We’re Happy For You, But…”

  1. 1 GermanEagle said at 8:32 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Although he came one drive short of a parade on broad street, the Eagles were really lucky to have drafted Donovan McNabb. And not Akili Smith.

  2. 2 Ark87 said at 9:21 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    This is a small thing I saw in a previous post from you, and it popped up again here, about the special teams. They were certainly great this year, almost historic early in the year, but I have a hard time calling it “fixed” as something we can count on or build on going forward in hopes of building a championship team. Just seems like with that part of the roster being churned so much every year, almost seems like a crap shoot.

    What in your view gives you confidence in the special teams going forward? Has Fipp turned the corner and really gotten a hang of this? Perhaps just having the key role-players like Parkey, Braman, Maragos and hopefully Jones and Sproles stave off father time another year, bringing enough impact to be the main driving force of ST quality? Maybe the ST culture really sinking in? Just curious about this one, I haven’t checked that box off yet for 2015. The most encouraging part to me is that we seemed to be so good in every phase of special teams, where a lot of other historical advantages on special teams came in one phase with a great kicker or great return man (like Devin Hester with the Bears playing such a huge role in helping an anemic offense get to the superbowl), but also that version seems a bit more sustainable.

    TLDR: what’s your view on the sustainability of the Eagles ST excellence?

  3. 3 GEAGLE said at 9:27 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    With Maragos here, who team mates have credited for “showing them how much fun Special teams can be”, a coach who will always obsess over special teams ability of our backups, should remain one of the better special team units, ATleast as long as Fipp remains here,,, I hear he is brilliant at finding the opponents “pigeon” on special teams and devising a plan of attack to take advantage and expose that “pigeon”…

    I’m not telling you that we will score a other 10 ST TDs next year, but especially while Sproles is here, I assume we will have a top 5 unit…

  4. 4 Anders said at 10:10 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Im going to expect at least a few punt and FG blocks and at least 1 punt7/KO return TD every year

  5. 5 Greg Richards said at 9:37 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    As long as they construct their roster with an emphasis on STs ability and are willing to use cap room to pay players that excel primarily on STs then we should expect to have success on STs. Now when you put that emphasis on STs, you may have to sacrifice in other areas. You may keep a guy that excels on STs on the 53-man roster but then when injuries strike a player you cut would have been better as an injury fill-in. Of course, any cap room you spend on STs specialists, takes away on the cap room you spend on starters on offense and defense.

  6. 6 Dominik said at 8:50 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Dead on, imho. 2013 was a bad ST unit despite Chip being all in. Maybe Fipp improved as a coach, but I think it was also a talent issue. We didn’t have a good return man and we had a horrible kicker. The only good thing about ST in 2013 was the Jones to Boykin, downed inside the 10 connection we had going that year.

    2014 was great, but like you say, there is a drop off. Braman and Maragos are horrible on D. You simply can’t play them there. You can have one, maybe two “ST only, no potential on Offense or Defense” players, but you can’t have 5 or 7 of them. Kills your D and/or Offense depth, imho.

    Burton was a rookie, so he’s kind of the ideal ST player. Great on ST, but with potential on Offense (since he was a rookie, there is always room for improvement imho).

    Graham was great to have, too. Terrific ST blocker and good on D. I think his ST abilities could land him his new contract (and a good one), because I think Chip sees Graham as a player who helps him in two areas and that has value to him (I assume).

    Parkey was just pure luck, but of course, we take that. Let’s just hope he can remain his high level of play.

  7. 7 Anders said at 10:09 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    If you suffer the types of injuries needed to play Chris Maragos, Bryan Braman or James Casey, nobody else you would have on the roster would be much better.

    Same counts for a guy like Casey Matthews, when you lose 3 players in front of him (Ryans, Goode and Long), getting the kind of production we got and his ST play is all you can ask for.

  8. 8 GEAGLE said at 9:43 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Responding to the notion that the Cowboys can stick any RB behind that elite offensive line, Demarco laughed and said “Id really like to see that” lol

    jerry always believed in spending, adding the big names…. This year he cut Demarcus ware, and not only did the sky not fall, but they had their best season. Lol hope jerry starts thinking he can just cut whoever lol. I will die of laughter if they dare enter the season with John Randle as the top back….watch the, down grade with a mark IngrAm type.

    Bears are Probabky going to wave Brandon Marshall, Adam Gase and marshall butted heads back when Shannahan banished Marshall from Denver…. Would love to add such a great depends
    Target l IKe Brandon Marshall for our young developing gunslinger, but Chip kelly won’t want anything to do with an NFL player that played in Chicago but flew to New York every Monday to film a TV show during the season…

    Don’t know why everyone is concerned about Maclin, if we can’t work out a deal, you can bet he gets slapped with the franchise Tag

  9. 9 GermanEagle said at 10:24 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I have posted this sweet of a dream here before:

    The 3 M&Ms would make not only Foles the happiest camper.

    Mac – Marshall – Matthews

  10. 10 GEAGLE said at 5:17 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    yeah that would be pretty awesome.. young QB going into 4th year, 3rd in this offense, would be really awesome to give him Maclin, and a security blanket like Brandon Marshall who will battle to go get the ball, with of course the Pope, Huff and Ertz working the middle…..

    but with two veteran WRs like Marshall, Maclin we really get to see just how good foles can be. Russel Wilson is considered one of the best QBs in the NFL, but we are seeing that for the seahawks to win, Wilson has to get all kinds of quality help. He is sorrounded with elite players at key positions…
    Elite Defense, elite run game, a young QBs dream…. andrew luck would have 4 superbowls in his first 3 seasons lol if he had seattle defense and beastmode… the great russel wilson needs so much around him to be successful, and thats not ment to diminish his skills and accomplishments, its just reality that young players need serious talent around them to win…. Luck is the Rare QB god that can win, without the best supporting cast…. hopefully we dont waste this season, but so much quality around Nick that if we fail, we can actually blame him.

  11. 11 Media Mike said at 8:09 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    DeMarco is on crack if he thinks multiple other running backs can’t have success in the NFL behind decent run blocking lines on teams that call a lot of running plays.

    And the thing with Maclin is that the franchise tag, set at close to $13 million this year, is too much to pay Maclin for a year as the baseline number for his future long term deal.

    I can’t see Chicago just waiving Marshall. He’d get them some type of draft pick.

  12. 12 Anders said at 10:07 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Why is Murray on crack? Murray was already a top 5 RB when healthy before last year, so unless you think Randle or insert random RB in and can still get lets just 1400+ yards, I think you are 100% wrong.

  13. 13 Media Mike said at 10:15 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    RBs are 100% replaceable if they’re not a special level of talent. Murray isn’t special. There is a false choice between Murray and Randle. Why can’t Dallas add Peterson? Or another guy at least as good as Murray for less long term guaranteed money? Or a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick?

    I’ll repeat, Murray is on crack.

  14. 14 Anders said at 10:19 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Outside of Peterson (if he becomes a FA), no RB they can add in FA is close to Murrays talent.

    Murray is among the most talented RBs in the NFL, he just hasnt been able to stay healthy

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 9:48 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    No One from the Eagles organization has even gave the slightest hint that they are thinking about waving shady or making him take a paycut… No one has a shread of evidence that would accurately allow them to make that statement, yet the media invented this narrative, assumed this is what’s going to happen to the point where fans are now where ever shady Goes he is being asked about the possibility he won’t be an eagle next year…l why the fuck should shady have to go thei this all summer because of a comple media geeks with like a 13% Acciracy rate think they have a crystal ball..

    Even if the Eagles are thinking about it, they haven’t leaked anything, no one has any type of evidence that should give them the right to add this drama to our offseason.. Shady shouldnt have to deal with this, we shouldn’t have to worry about this,,
    We,could say this every year about any player making big money over the age of 26… Get some facts before you make an entire fanbase thinking they have to worry about losing their star RB…. Hate this local media

  16. 16 GEAGLE said at 9:50 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    If I’m not mistaken, I think chip and shady have an upcoming dinner date next week

  17. 17 Dominik said at 8:55 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Again, Geagle, I’m not trying to defend the local media, but:

    “Even if the Eagles are thinking about it, they haven’t leaked anything”

    Started the same way with DJax last season. There was no real leak in terms of what’s going to happen, but there was the same kind of speculation – Jimmy K heard it somewhere, maybe some other journalist/blogger heard it this year. You never know.

    I’m not saying Shady will get released, but imho, it’s not as sure of a thing that he stays as you think.

  18. 18 EAGLES said at 9:13 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I agree

  19. 19 Anders said at 10:05 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Difference is what Jimmy heard he reported with “sources from inside the building”, the Shady thing is pure speculation as none have quoted any sources yet

  20. 20 Dominik said at 11:31 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    At first it was just a wild speculation from Jimmy, like the speculation now with Shady. After he discussed if it would be a possibility they could part ways with him, then there was the “source”. COULD be the same thing here.

    Again, I’m not saying it is. The DJax cut could be the reason all this “speculation” is happening. But I wouldn’t rule it out completely.

  21. 21 mksp said at 9:54 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    :: checks comments ::

    :: o_O ::

    :: peace ::

  22. 22 philliesfan123 said at 9:56 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    I would dare to say that the Seahawks GM John Schneider, and his player personnel department, would beg to differ with Tommys statement about the Seahawks having ” good luck ” in the building of their terrific team. There probably is ( some ) good luck involved. But I would attest that, their team was built by a great group of, experienced talent evaluators, who were given a clear blueprint for direction by their leader and head coach. Was it luck when the Seahawks drafted Earl Thomas one pick after the Eagles drafted Brandon Graham ? Was it luck when they took a chance on Marshawn Lynch, when others shied away ? Was it luck when the Seahawks drafted Bobby Wagner one pick after the Eagles drafted Mychal kendricks ? Was it luck when the Eagles ( who had two second round picks ) in the 2012 draft, used their second 2nd rounder to draft DE – Vinny Curry ( when they already had Trent Cole and Brandon Graham on the roster ) instead of using that pick on Russel Wilson, who the Eagles supposedly wanted to draft ? I guess that’s what it is ….. the Eagles, just have bad luck …. and the Seahawks have good luck. It’s just that simple folks. No skill involved. So, Lurie, Banner, Reid, Roseman ….. you’ve just been unlucky ….. don’t feel bad, it’s not your fault.

  23. 23 D3FB said at 10:12 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Was it luck when the Eagles traded pick 15 a 4th and a 6th for pick 12?

    That would be us getting Cox vs. Them getting Bruce Irvin (meh), Jaye Howard (no longer on team), and Jeremy Lane (sat for two years now a nickel).

    But I guess it’s easier to be a cliche negledelphian, who comes to a blog just to troll and insult the author.

  24. 24 philliesfan123 said at 11:06 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Ok, tough guy. Would you call the team that Schneider, Carroll and their player personnel staff put together, over the last 5 years, ” luck ? ” If your going to criticize me, then answer the question. Where are all the Eagles pro bowlers on defense, that were drafted over the last 10 years ? I’ll tell you – the last one was drafted in 2005 ( 9 years ago ) Trent Cole. Do you want me to tell you all the pro bowlers on the defense of the Seahawks, over the last 5 years alone ? How about 4 drafted and 1 free agent. Richard Sherman – Earl Thomas – Bobby Wagner – Kam Chancellor – Brandon Browner. Boy those Seahawks, they are really lucky, huh ? Don’t even try to call me a negadelphian. I’m a passionate fan …. and i’m pissed off, that the team I love, is not going to the Super Bowl …. again. Maybe YOU don’t care enough. I didn’t insult your daddy ….. I posed a different, opposed opinion. What’s wrong with that ? man up, boy.

  25. 25 D3FB said at 12:12 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    1. Yes, because I’m the one being an internet tough guy in this situation, insisting the other person “mans up” and getting irrationally defensive.

    2. Your original post wasn’t about the quality of the Seahawks drafting. It was putting on your captain hindsight hat, cherrypicking and complaining about 3 times you perceive the Seahawks made a better pick selection than the Eagles.

    3. Yes I would contend that the Seahawks did get lucky with some of those players. Drafting players isn’t an exact science. You aren’t dealing in known commodities, there is a human element. Yes they have done a good job at scouting, but 5th round picks don’t turn into pro bowl players. Let alone two of them. CFL players don’t turn into pro bowl players. They weren’t guaranteed to pan out, they weren’t likely to pan out. The Seahawks aren’t magically that much better at scouting.

    4. Richard Shermans draft profile: “Sherman is a size prospect with some good intangibles that will help him
    mold into a contributing backup corner for a press-heavy team.
    However, he does not possess the natural coverage instincts, fluidity or
    burst to be considered a future starter. Is comfortable and capable in
    press man, using his size to disrupt receivers’ releases off the line,
    but doesn’t show enough make up speed to consistently recover when
    beaten. Awareness in zone and off-man are only adequate. Has average
    ball skills but some upside as a playmaker. Tough against the run but
    still developing from a technical standpoint. Sherman is a Day 3

    5. Kam Chancellor draft profile: “Chancellor has been a very productive safety for the Hokies over the
    past three years. He has an outstanding combination of size and strength
    for the position. Chancellor is more of a box safety in that he is much
    better defending the run than in coverage. He has decent range off the
    hash and could be effective in combination zone schemes but may be a
    liability in pure man coverage schemes. He uses his hands well to ward
    off blockers when filling the alley and flashes to make the big hit.
    Chancellor is inconsistent with his angles and instincts with the ball
    in the air. Chancellor is a good football player and should be effective
    in the right system at the next level. Chancellor should contribute
    early as a special teams player and a goal line safety.”

    6. You are focusing only on the positives. For a team that you seem to think is so amazing and did it only by being better at scouting, you seem to ignore the James Carpenters, John Moffits, Bruce Irvins, Jordan Hills, Percy Harvin trade, taking Paul Richardson with Davante Adams, Allen Robinson, and Jarvis Landry all left on the board. The fact that just last year they cut a 4th round pick out of camp because he couldn’t hack it in their WR corps.

    7. Pro Bowls are a weird and arbitrary way to judge player success. Do you argue that Fletcher Cox is not one of the top interior defensive linemen? Do you contend that Kendricks is not a very talented LB? Both of these players are young blue chip players to build a defense around

    8. No one knew Wilson was going to be as successful as he is. If he was he would have been picked in the first round. He was so good in college that his coach told him to transfer so that he could start Mike Glennon. It was unprecedented for a sub 6′ QB to have his level of success. If the Seahawks had been so sure of his success they wouldn’t have given Matt Flynn $9 million guaranteed, and kept Tavaris Jackson around.

    9. Why not be happy about the positive moves a team you claim to love so dearly makes? Why not give credit for finding an Evan Mathis, for signing two good defensive players like Connor Barwin and Malcolm Jenkins to financially sound deals. What about getting Darren Sproles for a 5th round pick? Signing Chris Maragos and the other special teamers that helped lead the league? Be happy about Jordan Matthew, Bennie Logan, Lane Johnson, Jeremy Maclin, Zach Ertz, Ceddy Thorton, Fletcher Cox, Mychael Kendricks, Trey Burton, Nick Foles, Vinny Curry, Brandon Boykin, Jason Kelce.

    10. You’re mad because the Eagles didn’t make the Super Bowl? It’s a parity driven league with 32 teams. It was year 2 under Chip. Expecting to make the Super Bowl or else be mad and spew venom on the internets, is not a rational or sound decision.

    11. You’re right, I don’t care about this team enough. That’s why I spend my free time writing articles to contribute to this site, in an effort to help further constructive conversation about the Eagles. Clearly if I just spent more time talking crap about the former GM, the head coach, the owner, the former coach, the author of a blog no one forced me to read, then it would mean I cared.

    12. If I spent all my free time yelling at my girlfriend because she doesn’t cook like a classicly trained chef, doesn’t bang like a porn star, isn’t richer than god, doesn’t look like Heidi Klum, doesn’t have Patton Oswalts sense of humor, didn’t have Jamie Dimon’s job, and wasn’t as smart as Neil Degrasse Tyson, well then there would be a word to describe that. That word wouldn’t be caring, passionate, loving, or devotion.

    13. Negladelphian.

  26. 26 Jarock said at 12:52 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Thank you.

  27. 27 Mitchell said at 2:00 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Yikes, treated.

  28. 28 A Roy said at 7:33 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Sounds like you need to look for a girlfriend that has the qualities you seek. Better fire your GM.

  29. 29 since1961 said at 7:44 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Up to your usual standard of excellence.

  30. 30 James said at 8:24 AM on January 31st, 2015:


  31. 31 Dominik said at 9:11 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    What I would like to discuss is another part of Seattles roster building: hire and fire. Carroll takes a lot of chances and if there’s someone who doesn’t show enough, he will cut him. Like you wrote, he even cut his own 4th rounder from that year.

    Of course, that’s radical. But Chip is radical conservative is this regard, imho. I know, it’s just practice squad, but what the hell is Will Murphy doing on the PS? He wasn’t even a good College WR. Maybe he will be a good coach someday, but then give him the internship, not waste a PS spot.

    What the hell is Jeff Maehl doing on this roster?

    He held on to Henery and only gave him marginal competition before Parkey came out of nowhere. Despite Henery having a bad year before and despite him not even being a Chip Kelly draft pick.

    I think Chip does this for culture reasons. But Seattle has a strong culture in their own way.

    The Seahawks will make mistakes when they cut a player, no doubt about that. But I prefer an aggressive approach in roster building. If you see a player will never turn out to be a solid contributor, cut him. Sign someone and if he isn’t good enough, cut him and sign another one.

    What’s your take on that one, D3FB? Do you prefer the conservative way? Or do you think Chip can learn something from Carroll in that regard?

  32. 32 Anders said at 10:04 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    He did cut his 5th round safety from last year.

    Also the practice squad is more than just developing the raw diamond, its also about getting the 45 players ready for sunday. That means you need a few players who 100% know their assignment and wont fuck up during the week. Will Murphy is that kind of guy.

    Who should have beat Jeff Maehl out taking special teams production into account? Are you really that worried about the 6th WR on the roster?

  33. 33 Dominik said at 11:28 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Maehl played less than 3 percent of ST snaps. I used to think ST with Maehl too, but he was a non factor. Rather keep a guy who has the potential to be a solid contributor (Cunningham, f.e.) in the future if he’s inactive most of the time anyway.

    Also, I’m pretty sure you can find a player who won’t fuck up in practice during the week but who also has the slightest potential of being an NFL player someday.

  34. 34 D3FB said at 4:23 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think with your Will Murphys, Jeff Maehl, GJ Kinnies, they all have specific abilites they can emulate to help the team get ready. Maehl has elite short area quickness. Kinnie is the only QB who can emulate mobile QBs, etc.

  35. 35 Dominik said at 9:19 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    What does Will Murphy simulate? A guy who can’t run or catch? 😉

    No, seriously. I didn’t want to get too specific about the Eagles players, I’m more interested in your take about Chips conservative approach when it comes to hire and fire vs. Carrolls aggressive approach. What do you prefer personally and for what reason?

  36. 36 D3FB said at 11:09 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think there’s value to each strategy. With Carrol’s constant churn, you maybe find a key backup or average starter. But you weaken your depth and development.

    With the more Eagles more balanced approach, and keep in mind we still churned through probably a dozen players. It made more sense for us since we have alot of roster spots taken up by high quality special teamers. In order to claim a guy from another practice squad you have to keep him on your roster for 3 weeks. The roster spots that you would use for those purposes were occupied by guys like Trey Burton, Chris Maragos, Bryan Braman, Chris Prosinksi, who were great special teamers. Or you can cut one of your rookies who need some development i.e. Watkins or Hart, Both of whom you’re not going to find anyone better than by churning the back of the roster.

    As far as our practice squad goes I think it’s a nice balance of potential and practicality. Pratt, Graf, Reynolds, and Tucker all have a decent chance to make the 53 next year and contribute. Murphy, Wade Kellipiki, Josh Andrews, GJ Kinnie all have value as scout team players.

  37. 37 EAGLES said at 9:22 AM on January 31st, 2015:


  38. 38 philliesfan123 said at 12:44 PM on February 2nd, 2015:

    Thanks for all your effort on that. BUT ….. as far as your ” captain hindsight – cherry picking ” statements ……. what do you want me to do ? What are we basing our information on ….. the PAST. So how am I cherry picking ….. or captain obvious. I can only ( compare ) the Eagles and Seahawks drafts, and free agent moves from the ” PAST. ” That is how you make evaluations ( of anything. ) I gave some ” glaring ” examples, but their are many others also. I don’t have to cherry pick anything. There is a website called ” pro football reference.com. ” Go visit it, and see how many pro bowlers the Eagles have drafted on defense over the last 10 plus years. It is VERY obvious that you are a friend of the websites author. That’s fine. But DO NOT criticize me, on the sole basis that I offered another opinion, contrary to your friends. I don’t just throw out comments, without backing them up with FACTS. We can have a discussion / disagreement about the issues …. but you are out of line, criticizing my passion or loyalty to the Eagles. The sole reason why I comment is to offer / provide readers with ” other ” opinions to consider ( for themselves. ) So, no hard feelings. Quoting from the movie ” The last Samurai ” ….. ” You have spoke …. I have spoke …….. we have had – a good conversation. “

  39. 39 A_T_G said at 11:23 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Conclusion sarcastically chided: “I guess that’s what it is ….. the Eagles, just have bad luck …. and the Seahawks have good luck. It’s just that simple folks. No skill involved.”

    What Tommy actually said: “That’s a combination of great scouting and some luck.”

    There is a name for that…

  40. 40 ICDogg said at 2:06 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    That strawman appears to have baled out.

  41. 41 A Roy said at 7:26 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    It would appear he’s suffering from foddershock.

  42. 42 philliesfan123 said at 1:49 PM on February 2nd, 2015:

    Quote from article – ” Seattle has had some serious luck in building their roster. ” ….. unquote. O.K. ?

  43. 43 unhinged said at 12:17 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Schneider’s player personnel department at the time of most of the referenced draft selectees included one Scot McCloughan, who just happened to be the guy most responsible for the 49ers defense (which he admittedly built through a string of bad-record seasons). Ted Thompson, who is respected for his evaluation of evaluators, has referred to McCloughlan as “gifted”. Dan Snider recently named him as his personnel czar. The guy has a track record that does not suggest luck or supreme effort. He contributed his insights to two franchises that happen to have two of the best defenses in the league. This personalization is not popular among NFL teams because the credit is claimed by coaches and owners and GM’s, and everyone is mum on the busts. I hope EM has some critical insights to offer Kelly that will translate into a 5th round starter, a 6th round pro bowler. Buddy Ryan was a very good evaluator of defensive stars, (one could argue a better evaluator than a HC) and we have not seen that particular talent since he left. A great deal is riding on Marynowitz’s abilities. We’ve got the coach and we’ve got most of the pieces. The Eagles probably won’t be drafting early any time soon, so the margin for error is disappearing fast.

  44. 44 philliesfan123 said at 12:23 PM on February 2nd, 2015:

    Some very good points, but also consider this ; when you ( run ) a organization or department, you are responsible for everything that your underlings do. You can’t just blame ” them ” when things go wrong, or take sole credit, when things go right. Schneider and Thompson ( hired ) terrific people to work for them, in their player personnel departments. Schneider can not take ( full ) credit for all the Seahawks great draft picks, over the last 5 years. But neither could McCloughan. The reason ( in my opinion ) why Schneider gets ” more ” credit than McCloughan, is because Schneider hired McCloghan, and he was also involved in the choosing of the players drafted of signed as free agents. So, to summerize, Schneider gets credit for hiring great people to assist him in player personnel evaluations, and he also gets credit for running the department that has been drafting great players for years. The same goes for the Packers – Ted Thompson and Eliot Wolf, and the Ravens – Eric DeCosta and Ozzie Newsome.

  45. 45 unhinged said at 4:46 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    My reasoning for underscoring McCloughan’s presence was not to denigrate Schneider, but rather to show that McCloughan had a hand in building 2 great defenses. Only the folks in the room know who was making the calls, but considering that McCloughan was San Fran’s GM, and considering why he was let go (excessive drinking). AND considering that Schneider was at Green Bay with him, and that they were close friends, I think it is safe to assume that the underling was still a mentor of sorts. You’re right, Schneider gets full credit. But behind the scenes may be another story.

  46. 46 philliesfan123 said at 12:17 PM on February 4th, 2015:

    I honestly don’t remember what your original point was. I don’t think we disagree about the fact, that we both would have rathered Kelly to have hired ( if they ( would have / could have ) interviewed ) a – Eliot Wolf, Scott Fiterer or Brian Gaine. The Eagles two most important people in the building ( in terms of winning a Super Bowl ) are still in their diapers ( in NFL terms ) when it comes to experience. That usually isn’t a recipe for success. We’ll soon find out.

  47. 47 unhinged said at 5:12 PM on February 4th, 2015:

    We may disagree. My argument with some of Tommy’s points was familiarity (with process) and hard work and success at logistics do not necessarily equate with capacity for evaluating. I am not convinced that a 20-year scout is going to be a better evaluator than a 3-month novice. You favor experience, but I want the guy with an eye, and he may not have a resume that impresses. I basically trust Kelly’s judgement enough to believe that his new personnel guy has promise. And I agree, we’ll soon have an inkling.

  48. 48 philliesfan123 said at 7:40 PM on February 4th, 2015:

    You may be right. But my contention is that player personnel people, develop that ( eye for talent ) during their course of gaining that experience. It ( to me ) is very hard for people, to develop a real ( superior ) talent for something, without many ( hour / years ) of refining those skills, over time. Most skills are developed by trial and error, or by being trained by people, who have a extremely high level of skill in that ( field / area ) of expertise. Neither Kelly and Marynowitz, meet either of those criteria. They both have, neither the years of experience, or a very experienced person to groom them. There ( must be ) many, many insights and nuances that are learned by scouts and player personnel people, over many years of ( on the job ) learning. These skills go above and beyond the basic – scouting a player for – ( Tall / long arms / 40 times / big hands / character , etc. ) Anyone can read a scouting report on a player, and ( understand and asses value ) to those player characteristics. It takes real skill to read between the line, and really ( know ) what to look for. There is more than one way to skin a cat. we’ll see how it works out. Just for the record, i’m pulling for Kelly and Marynowitz.

  49. 49 unhinged said at 7:55 AM on February 5th, 2015:

    Yeah, me too. The last thing I’ll write about this:: If experience was the best teacher, then the many many coaches who tried and mostly failed at evaluating over the decades since the 1st SB would have been more successful on average. Lombardi couldn’t do it, Paul Brown was not good. Bill Walsh was exceptional and Jimmy Johnson was not bad. Gil Brandt, though not an NFL HC, was an innovator with his computer databases back in the ’60’s! I’m referring specifically to a sense that one either has or does not. Do I think that scouts are all frauds? No. But are they the best evaluators because they are scouts? I doubt it. I take heart by the varying success of the Steelers and Giants, and the Packers They have personnel people who were vetted and mentored by established success stories. And they have maintained a presence as contenders more years than not. If Kelly and his cabal have success in this endeavor, it could set the Eagles on a great course.

  50. 50 philliesfan123 said at 12:52 PM on February 5th, 2015:

    Ok, let’s try this. What are you really good at ? Are you really good at that, because of some innate ability ? Were you, just born, with that skill ? I tend to, think not. Just because you are a great boss ( coach ) doesn’t mean that you are qualified to spot talented employees ( players. ) Companies have specialists ( human resources department ), that handle the hiring ( drafting ) process. Yes the ( personnel department ) will get ” direction and input ” into which people ( players )to hire, but the ” experts ” do the most work, finding the ( most ) qualified people. If you were running a BILLION dollar business, would you hire the guy who said he had ” ability, that he was born with ” , or another candidate, who has mentored under ( other ) very successful people, in that field, and who also, has many years of experience, himself ? I think, the answer to that question, is clear. The best way to increase success at something, is specialization. If I ran a NFL team, I would have the coach, coach, and the player personnel department ( GM ) evaluate talent. Yes, there would be cooperation and collaboration …. but, any person wearing TOO many hats, is obviously going to be neglecting something, somewhere. Let’s hope, Kelly isn’t spreading himself too thin, and Marynowitz is up to the task.

  51. 51 Gary Barnes said at 10:08 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Dead on, Tommy…great post

  52. 52 philliesfan123 said at 11:14 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    Also ( this is not criticizing Tommy ) the article referenced in this article about the Seahawks was absolute garbage. Yes if you draft a player in the first round and pay him $ 20 million for 4 years ( $ 5 million a year ) and you draft a 4th round pick, and pay him $ 6 million for 4 years ( $ 1.5 million a year ) the 4th round pick is a better value. Duh. Garbage …. just someone writing a article, jumping on the Seahawks band wagon. Not Tommy, the guy from Business week, who wrote the article.

  53. 53 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:26 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    So… not really about Tommy’s post, but you guys’ll like it. I was playing a gig for an event here in Phoenix just tonight–just me and my percussionist, background music. They open the doors and the guests are all hanging out in the lobby, no one really comes in. There’s just this one tall, gangly white dude with a girl comes in and stands on the other side of the room. As far as I know, the clients are all just normal corporate types–and the white dude fits right in. But he kinda looks like Nick Foles. And the Superbowl is coming up… but he looks quite ordinary. I figure he’s probably just some guy who works for the company who kind of looks like Nick. So anyway, eventually he leaves and then at some point most of the guests come in. Normal corporate types, except a couple big black dudes in suits. One of the black guys, my partner realizes, is Deion Sanders! We are playing music during this time, but I notice Deion kind of looks over at us and grins. After half an hour of this or so, the host gets a mic and starts jawing about his company. Then he introduces Deion and Derek Brooks (the other big black guy). They are talking about some kind of charity thing the corporation is sponsoring. Deion takes the mic and says there’s a tradition that rookies to the event have to… sing a song! So he hands the mic to the tall gangly white dude and tells him he has to sing the Eagles’ fight song! Nick–it was him, of course–walks over to me and I then realize why Deion had been grinning at me. He and I were equally shocked that we had to perform a song together, but he didn’t even skip a beat. Nick pulls out his phone and starts googling the chords for me at my request–although I doubt he actually knew the words, either. I say “I am an Eagles fan…” He says “All right!” “… but I actually don’t know how the fight song goes.” He finds the lyrics. Deion is egging him on and they are making jokes about huddles and whatnot. Nick holds the phone up so I can see it and gets ready to sing… unfortunately there are no chords, only lyrics (and I have never heard the Eagles fight song in my life!). I strum a C chord and he starts warbling the words. I tried to create an accompaniment that gave some sort of shape and musical drama to the words he was tunelessly intoning. I think he was wondering what the hell I was playing, but he soldiered through with admirable grit–we both seem to share the trait of not minding making fools of ourselves. We finished the song to wild applause and Deion making jokes about audibles and such. Then they went back to their speeches and went out to where they were having dinner. I told him I would tell the guys at igglesblitz about it, but I don’t know if he knew what I was talking about. I wish I could have gotten a pic, but I was working!

  54. 54 EAGLES said at 9:27 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Cool story, bro.

    No, really, cool story.

  55. 55 shah8 said at 11:32 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    To offer a bit of comparison, Rick Speilman hits on a lot of first round picks, some second round picks (of course not Ponder…), but he has not done a great job getting the deeper round hits needed to make the Vikings a truly good team…

  56. 56 Greg Richards said at 11:39 PM on January 30th, 2015:

    When? In the early 70s?

  57. 57 holeplug said at 2:11 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’d argue Seattle only really got lucky with Wilson. The rest was just good scouting/drafting. Like building their secondary the way they did was by design. Carroll/Schneider just realized the corners they wanted (tall physical guys) often fall (oh noes stiff hips can’t draft) b/c they don’t fit most defensive schemes nearly as well as what they wanted to run so they just didn’t draft any of them early since there was no need. Its not an accident that the most important member of the secondary (Earl Thomas) was drafted in the 1st round. Guys like him ain’t found in the 5th round Their shit don’t work if Earl Wolff is patrolling the deep middle.

  58. 58 anon said at 2:55 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    the safeties help a lot in that system, they are the glue

  59. 59 Anders said at 3:47 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    But Richard do not have stuff hips, he was just slow (and didnt look like a HoF in college)

  60. 60 ICDogg said at 4:29 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Eric Galko (Optimum Scouting) Big Board


  61. 61 Insomniac said at 4:43 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Devin Funchess at 12? Wow.

  62. 62 ICDogg said at 4:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Just a quick note, it’s a “big board” of non-QBs

  63. 63 GermanEagle said at 4:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Do you have kids too or what are you doing up so early?!

  64. 64 Insomniac said at 4:55 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Pulling off all nighters. I read stuff when I feel like I need a break.

  65. 65 ICDogg said at 4:58 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    now that you mention it I think I’ll head back into bed

  66. 66 GermanEagle said at 5:01 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    lol. I wish I could with this early monkey sitting next to me watching curious George….

  67. 67 Insomniac said at 5:00 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I noticed. I might be a bit biased since Funchess is on my “don’t draft” list.

  68. 68 GermanEagle said at 5:07 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Todd Gurley going in the 1st ain’t happening, unless he’s limping..

  69. 69 Dominik said at 9:23 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I don’t get why he isn’t staying in College. Of course, he has an agent and advisors who know the market waaaay better than I do, but I think his injury will hurt his draft stock badly. If he would stay put, he could rehab with all the time he needs, come on the field, dominate the SEC and maybe gets drafted in the first round afterall. I just don’t see that happening with this kind of injury. Lattimore, anyone?
    Maybe he’s thinking: one more injury and I’m done. Let’s get at least some kind of rookie contract and if I stay healthy in the NFL, I will get a good 2nd contract. Problem is: RBs are sometimes viewed as kind of old after their Rookie contract.

    On the other hand, Gurley is a very talented RB. A great RB talent, imho. I’m no scouting expert, so take this with a huge grain of salt, but his size/strenght/speed/agility combination reminds me kind of the AP and Murray kind of RBs.

  70. 70 Alistair Middlemiss said at 9:43 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Staying in college and getting drafted in the bottom of the first round next year means you get to free agency 2 years later. Think we are seeing more kids being told to come out early even at a cost of being drafted 1-2 rounds later

  71. 71 Anders said at 10:01 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Marcus Lattimore is the reason why he shouldnt go back.

    Gurley is going 2nd round latest right now, why go back to college and risk getting injured again while not getting paid?

  72. 72 GermanEagle said at 10:11 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m not sure if any team will spend a 2nd rounder on someone who will mostly like miss his rookie year due to injury, no matter how talented he is. Paired with the fact he’s ‘just’ a RB he could fall to the 3rd or even 4th round.

  73. 73 Anders said at 10:16 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Todd Gurley was talked as of a top 10 pick before the injury. Gurley is one of those rare talent RBs teams still think is worth drafting high.

    Gurley should in theory be ready to play full contact around August unless he has set backs

  74. 74 Media Mike said at 10:18 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I wonder if his agent can get the Drew Rosenhouse / Willis McGahee treatment in selling teams on his talent.

  75. 75 Anders said at 10:21 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    If Gurley is there in the late 2nd round, I would love to take him for us.

    If you look at Kelly’s teams at Oregon and even Oregon this year, it always worked best with a bigger RB. Also look at Ohio State how much better they got once Ziggy Elliot broke out.

    There must be a reason why it seems some of the best teams have the bigger RB (and I love Shady and think we can win a SB with him)

  76. 76 Media Mike said at 10:23 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I love Shady as well and expect him to be here for a few more seasons. Polk is extremely productive as that big back / change of pace type; but you’re correct in that a guy like Gurley could provide crazy production at that position for 3 or 4 years at a very cheap cost if he’s a 2nd round draft pick.

    I’d love to see Shady – Sproles – Polk – Gurley group in 2015.

  77. 77 Anders said at 10:24 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I would trust more in Polk if he didnt have that bad hammy every year

  78. 78 Media Mike said at 10:28 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Exactly. But considering he’s cheap and productive when he plays means that I’ll keep him for the duration of his rookie deal, but not for any legit money afterwords.

  79. 79 Anders said at 10:31 AM on January 31st, 2015:


  80. 80 Media Mike said at 10:36 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    And if we go with your Gurley plan, we could be in a comfortable position to move on from Shady at the exact moment his production is down for a 2nd consecutive year.


    If you look at his deal, it would be very affordable to let him play out the final 3 years of that deal before you let him walk at the end of it. One could even run the BS out of him this year to see if he can really workhorse it, and have very little dead money if he was cut going into 2016 if the roster allowed for it.

  81. 81 GermanEagle said at 10:48 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Fair enough. If he’s ready by training camp then He might get drafted high.

  82. 82 Media Mike said at 10:50 AM on January 31st, 2015:


    Here is the playbook for Gurley and his agent.

  83. 83 Dominik said at 11:22 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Are you sure he’s going in the 2nd round latest? If so, I get it. Difference between 1st and 2nd round isn’t that huge compared to the risk of never signing an NFL contract at all.

    If he slips to the 4th (like Lattimore did) because teams are scared (2nd big injury is no joke for a RB), risk/reward could be different, though.

  84. 84 Media Mike said at 11:25 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The natural counter to that is that the money first round picks used to earn was gutted by the new CBA. Why not be a 2nd round pick, do really well, and get to outragous money two full years earlier by virtue of a) leaving school a year early and b) having a contract that goes for only 4 years instead of 5?

  85. 85 Dominik said at 11:40 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Again, if Gurley turns out to be a 2nd round pick, I totally get his decision.

    From the outside, I just wouldn’t be so sure. Lattimore probably thought he would go higher, too. The first RB chosen last year was Sankey with pick 54 (means end of round 2). If the draft goes this way again Gurley could easily find himself in round 3 or even 4. He’s probably the most talented back, but Gordon, Abdullah, Yeldon – they don’t have the injury flag.

    Plus, he maybe rushes his rehab, because if you’re a 3rd or 4th round rookie, you better be with the team asap. Rushing the rehab COULD mean a higher risk for another injury. With Georgia, he would literally have all the time he needs, because he will rush all over the SEC anyway as soon as he’s ready.

  86. 86 D3FB said at 4:29 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Every guy I respect has him graded out as a first round pick, even while dinging his grade for the injury. I’d be really suprised if he isn’t gone by the end of round 2.

  87. 87 Dominik said at 9:22 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Interesting. So I take that as a good chance he made the right decision, at least as of today.

    On the other hand: if every guy you respect STILL has him as a first rounder, despite his second awful injury (as a RB!), I can assume that my hobby evaluation of him wasn’t that far off, was it?

    “On the other hand, Gurley is a very talented RB. A great RB talent,
    imho. I’m no scouting expert, so take this with a huge grain of salt,
    but his size/strenght/speed/agility combination reminds me kind of the
    AP and Murray kind of RBs.”

  88. 88 D3FB said at 10:56 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Haven’t done Gurley personally yet.

    The general rule of thumb is if you don’t get a round 3 or better grade from the committee, your ass better stay in school. (None of the Louisville DBs this year did).

    For guys at undervalued positions like TE, or at RB where mileage is a huge concern, I don’t mind guys coming out early if they grade out properly. It makes sense for Gurley to come out. He’s going to go really early still.

    Unlike Lattimore, Gurley only tore his ACL. He dealt with a quad and ankle his sophomore year but nothing too crazy. Hopefully he goes in the second round to a team that’s willing to let him take his time to get back. If he’s ready week 1, great, but if he isn’t ready til bye week or even his second season that’s ok too.

  89. 89 Dominik said at 8:08 AM on February 2nd, 2015:

    Interesting. Thanks, mate!

    One quick question though: who’s the “committee” you mention at the top?

  90. 90 D3FB said at 10:19 PM on February 2nd, 2015:


  91. 91 Mitchell said at 11:06 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I really feel like we are going to get a great player at 20 or if we trade down. It isn’t top heavy but there seems to be a lot of depth in the later parts of the first.

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 7:53 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    “If you are going to build a great unit, you must find key contributors in odd places. Think back to Gang Green.”

    I think back to Gang Green every time I see what Billy Davis is doing with our D. I miss having that level of talent on the field and in the coaching box.

  93. 93 Greg Richards said at 7:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Forget Deflategate. Here’s the REAL scandal of Super Bowl weekend:


  94. 94 Media Mike said at 7:55 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I was disappointed when the Puppy Bowl” wasn’t about showing off “puppies” in the way Jerry The King used to rave about the on WWE broadcasts.

  95. 95 Greg Richards said at 8:09 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Maybe if it was on the Playboy channel instead of Animal Planet.

  96. 96 Media Mike said at 8:11 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I don’t think I thought it out beyond just hearing “puppy bowl” and thinking “toplessness” by default.

  97. 97 Greg Richards said at 8:15 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m not seeing any clothes on those puppies. And they’re underage! Someone call the authorities.

  98. 98 Media Mike said at 8:17 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Or Lawrence Taylor! But if you don’t provide him AKC papers at the time he’s playing with the puppies, he’ll mount a legal defense around that.

  99. 99 MagOvertheRainbow said at 6:05 PM on January 31st, 2015:


  100. 100 Media Mike said at 8:04 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think part of what makes Seattle’s drafting look so good is that they have a set of coaches on D who see to craft a scheme around maximizing production using whatever play calling / setup is necessary for the 11 guys they have on the field. That is clearly lacking on our D staff.

  101. 101 EAGLES said at 9:33 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Richard Sherman alludes to that a lot. I hate when he brags and boasts but he’s a smart football guy. He uses that same “the coaches put us in the best position to win” line, and it’s obvious the elite coaching they have is what gets them going. Their D coordinator is basically a lock to join the falcons as their head coach so I wonder if it’ll hurt them or show any dropoff next year/near future.

  102. 102 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:50 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    They didn’t show much drop off when Gus Bradley left. Probably maintain with assistants and with the same players.

  103. 103 Anders said at 10:00 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The Seattle coaches does the opposite, they have a set scheme and then find the players for that scheme.

    They then play call a bit differently in terms of the front seven depending on if they have the run stop or the pass rush DL in game

  104. 104 Media Mike said at 10:16 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    In either case (and you could be totally right here), how they do it should be a model on how to improve how we do it. I need to see some major improvement on this D.

  105. 105 Anders said at 10:18 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    So outside of CBs, which position didnt improve its play last year?

    DL played better with Cox, Logan and Curry all taken steps forward, LBs played better with Barwin, Kendricks and Cole all playing better and Matthews looking decent, safety looked better because of Jenkins.

  106. 106 Media Mike said at 10:21 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think calling Matthews decent is a stretch, Nate Allen was still horrible and cost us games, the sack total from Cole dropped, and the stubborn nature of the the technique instructed to the CBs caused way too many long gains to be completed.

  107. 107 Anders said at 10:24 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Nate Allen blows in coverage, but nothing Bill D can do about that, Cole’s sack total dropped, but there is more to production than just sacks. Matthews played decent.

    Regarding the CB, they blows no matter what technique they played and maybe they was instructed to it because they shouldnt worry about doing something they cant physical do anyway?

  108. 108 Media Mike said at 10:27 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think the fact that Davis, or quite possibly the D back coaching group if one’s into making excuses for Davis, didn’t vary what they were asking the guys to do back there made it significantly easier for teams to easily identify and exploit in the easiest way possible. The Romo / Dez thing from the second game, especially in the context that it was obvious to everybody but the Eagles coaches, underlines this.

  109. 109 Anders said at 10:30 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    So you assume you know what Davis asked his guys to do.

    You do not know if Allen was asked to cover one side deep, but make an adjustment if he saw something.

    Watch the McCourty int against the Ravens, it he wasnt told to do that but did it because he is more instinctual safety than Allen.

  110. 110 Media Mike said at 10:33 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    What I know is that the D isn’t good enough. If it doesn’t improve by the time we’re at this point next year, I’m done with Davis as the coach of the D.

  111. 111 Anders said at 10:35 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I just think we disagree on if it improved or not.

    Also according to footballoutsider, we improved from 23rd to 10th in defensive DVOA

  112. 112 Media Mike said at 10:40 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The overall numbers aside, we didn’t get the big stops when needed in games. The increased stoutness against the run can easily be attributed to the maturation of Cox, Logan, and Thorton simply growing as young players with talent should. The league worst number in long pass plays surrendered completely and totally trumps any other rank. If that doesn’t get significantly better soon, we’re in a really bad spot for improving as a team.

    I’m wiling to give Davis the year to improve the D in ways that matter with an improved roster, but not longer than the year.

  113. 113 anon said at 11:26 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    safeties, jenkins plays box so we still beat over and over

  114. 114 Eagles News: Vince Lombardi was almost Philadelphia’s coach | nflfans247.net said at 8:08 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    […] We’re Happy For You, But… – Iggles BlitzThe task at hand for Ed Marynowitz and Chip Kelly is to take the Eagles from being a good team to being a great team. All they have to do is solve the QB situation, fix the secondary and find another playmaker or two. Sounds easy, right? Heck, Jeff Lurie could have hired me for something that simple. […]

  115. 115 EAGLES said at 9:05 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I thought about it for a while and I’m very comfortable having Chip and Ed run our team. Both are tireless workers with eyes for not only evaluating talent but in Chip’s case also translating it to the football field in many ways. I hope Chip just gets the guys that can make an impact for us quickly no matter what round it is. I don’t care if he drafts guys too early or late, odds are some other team will be mad we took that player early and hopefully for a good reason in the end. Just think, we could have Russell Wilson in place of Vinny Curry and still have Kendricks. You sometimes just have to beat other teams to the punch if you feel that strongly for a player.

  116. 116 Media Mike said at 10:32 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m not sure if Tommy is going to do a Super Bowl post at all, but for the record I have:

    Seattle 20 New England 16. I think both D staffs do a great job in frustrating the other team, but Seattle gets one more red zone stop than New England does in a very tight game.

    I just don’t see anybody but Gronk, who will get some nasty bracket coverage all day – see how Seattle totally owns Jimmy Graham every time they play, having the ability to get production vs. Seattle’s DBs and New Englad’s RB / O line group doesn’t strike me as being able to consistently win vs. Seattle up front.

    I think Belacheat is going to have some really nasty game plan stuff to really stifle Seattle as well, but New England’s mediocre run D isn’t going to be able to be hidden for 60 minutes.

    So by virtue of Beast Mode, I like Seattle to win a very close game.

  117. 117 GermanEagle said at 10:46 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m hoping for a final score of seahawks 2, pats 7. Or 12-7, 22-7, 12-17, 22-17, 32-17, 32-27. I think you get the picture. 😉

  118. 118 Media Mike said at 10:47 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The old block pool! Good luck!

  119. 119 GermanEagle said at 10:50 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    It’s $300 boxes!! Gutted that I drew a 2… 🙁

  120. 120 Media Mike said at 10:51 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    You’ll just need to do an NFL version of this;


  121. 121 GermanEagle said at 10:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Dude, wtf?!

  122. 122 Media Mike said at 11:08 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    ha ha, not a fan of the Safety Dance?

  123. 123 GermanEagle said at 11:19 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    I will dance naked on the bar counter shall any one of the final scores mentioned above come in! 😉

  124. 124 Media Mike said at 11:20 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Are the payouts 5-5-5-15?

  125. 125 GermanEagle said at 11:34 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    It’s a grand payout per each score change. The final score takes the remaining jackpot. So with the pot starting at 30 G’s I reckon it will be $10-20 grand left for the final score…

  126. 126 Media Mike said at 11:35 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Whoa, that’s a lot of payouts.

  127. 127 GermanEagle said at 11:37 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    yes, and that lucky bastard who got numbers 0 and 0 has already won $1k!!!

  128. 128 GermanEagle said at 11:38 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Yes, it is. Especially since the extra points count as a scrore change as well. So if a team scores a TD you will most likely have 2 score changes, unless the kicker misses the PAT!

  129. 129 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:47 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Oh those Frenchmen!

  130. 130 ICDogg said at 11:30 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Years ago I won a 5-dollar-a-box one of those at work, both the final score and two quarters. I think I wound up with $300. I remember getting a big pile of cash because it was mostly 5’s and 1’s.

  131. 131 GermanEagle said at 11:37 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    Ha! Besides the big one at my local bar I am also in for 2 $5, 2 $10 and 2 $20 boxes at work! Here’s hope that at least one quarter will come in..!

  132. 132 P_P_K said at 12:26 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Pats open by throwing to test the health of the Seattle CBs. When that doesn’t work, they go into their regular O, which manages to perform respectably but is contained by the Legion. On the other side, Wilson extends plays, Beast Mode is not-containable, so by the 4th quarter the talk of a Seattle dynasty is on. The score is closer than the game. 24-17 Seahawks.

  133. 133 Engwrite said at 10:54 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    The draft is a crap shoot. The more picks the better. Belichick has been doing that for years. Drafting Brady in the 6th round wasn’t brilliant, it was ‘informed luck.’ Same for many of Seattle’s picks. Although it is true that some GMs are better ‘informed’ than others.

  134. 134 GermanEagle said at 11:43 AM on January 31st, 2015:

    So who will be this year’s Odell Beckham Jr.?! I know it’s probably unlikely that there will be one in any draft over the next couple of years, but let’s just play this game for fun’s sake.

    My choice:

    WR Kevin White, WVU

  135. 135 Mitchell said at 2:21 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I like devante Parker although like you said, he’s not close to Odell.

  136. 136 GEAGLE said at 4:07 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Jalen Strong rd 1
    Devin smith Rd 2
    Ty Montgomery Rd 3
    Phillip Dorsett Rd2-3

    strong is my fav Big body replacement for Coop
    Devin is my favorite #2 WR deep threat with decent size
    Ty Montgomery is my fav poor mans Maclin outside of the first two rounds..

    Dorsett is the fastest of the most dangerous deep threats. stylistically he gets compared to Mike wallace, but a better route runner than Wallace was coming out, and not the jackass that Wallace is…. I wouldnt look to Dorsett to be a starting WR, but a nice deep threat to come in and take the top off a defense like the saints use Stills…
    plenty of other WRs i think highly of and wouldnt mind seeing become Eagles, these are somne of my favorites who i can count on not getting drafted in the top 19

  137. 137 Anders said at 5:25 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Not sure I see the Maclin comp with Montgomery, Ty is super stiff and slow in and out of his breaks, where Maclin is one of the most fluid route runners in the NFL.

    Devin Smith is much closer to poor mans Maclin than Ty. Ty is a poor mans C. Patterson.

    I would love any of Parker, Strong, White or Cooper on this team but just cant see it.

  138. 138 mksp said at 6:00 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Ty Montgomery is not a good WR. Not sure why some continually rank him as a top-50 guy.

    No way Eagles take him.

  139. 139 Mitchell said at 11:29 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    You know who else is a deep threat? Coates.

  140. 140 Anders said at 5:23 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I really love how fluid Parker is, really reminds me of a bigger ODB.

  141. 141 RobNE said at 6:35 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    ODB is once a decade. I know that hurts, but admit it and move on.

  142. 142 GermanEagle said at 6:38 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Huh? Where did I say that someone will come close to his talent this year?

  143. 143 Bob Brewer said at 12:15 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Is it scouting? Is it player development? Is it right player, right fit? I don’t know but the 2014 draft combined with this new power structure makes me uneasy.

  144. 144 Greg Richards said at 1:13 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    People need to stop stressing out about the 2014 draft. Sometimes guys take more than one year to be ready to contribute. Give it a year.

  145. 145 GEAGLE said at 4:10 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    yeah i have no clue why everyone is down on the last draft… Marcus smith was always a pick that wouldnt be ready before year two, so its not even like he is fallen behind schedule in his development…anyone who is really familiar with MS2 knew it was a pick that wasnt going to pay off as a rookie, so to write him off because of his rookie year is so stupid and ignorant..

  146. 146 P_P_K said at 12:31 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Tomorrow, if the Pats win 24-21 and Wilson barfs in the huddle, we’ll now Belichick has really figured something out.

  147. 147 GermanEagle said at 1:39 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Bellicheat is not only known for deflating footballs, but also opposing Quarterbacks.

  148. 148 P_P_K said at 4:09 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Q. How do the Pats win a Super Bowl without cheating?
    A. Nobody knows, they haven’t done it yet.

  149. 149 Anders said at 4:13 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    All teams cheat.

    Several QBs like Matt Hasselbeck have said every QB wants his football in one exact way and Aaron Rodgers have said he likes his balls over inflated.

  150. 150 GEAGLE said at 4:24 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    no… all teams get involved in “gamesmanship”, not all teams push the envelop so far that they get caught… once you get caught, you go from “Gamesmanship” to cheating…

    there is no way that every time the Patriots cheat it gets discovered. If we have caught them these two times, who knows how many other ways they gained advantages over the years that we dont even know about

  151. 151 Anders said at 5:23 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    and how come nobody is up in arms over Brad Johnson telling he bribed somebody to tamper with the balls?

    EVERYBODY CHEATS in the NFL to some degree. There is 100% a great chance that some of your most beloved players are heavy PED users.

  152. 152 GermanEagle said at 5:31 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    i wouldn’t put de- or inflated footballs on the same level of cheating as stealing someone’s playcalls.

  153. 153 Anders said at 5:34 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Everybody stole signals back then as well. Hell the Panthers who the Pats beat in 2003 had several guys suspended for PEDs

  154. 154 GermanEagle said at 5:38 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    This might be true. But there’s still a discrepancy between this and deflated balls, the latter being well overblown by the media.

  155. 155 Anders said at 5:43 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    100% true, but wasnt my point, my point is EVERYBODY cheats

  156. 156 GermanEagle said at 5:52 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    That wasn’t my point. My point was that I need to win my super bowl boxes tomorrow! 🙂

  157. 157 MagOvertheRainbow said at 6:03 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    The alleged deflation points to a mindset, however.

  158. 158 GEAGLE said at 8:23 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    No, sorry, Kendricks, cox and Curry my favorite players aren’t on PEDs, speak for your own favorites…

  159. 159 Anders said at 7:36 AM on February 1st, 2015:

    Lol keep believing that none of them are using PEDs

  160. 160 P_P_K said at 4:31 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I might be naive but I sure hope this isn’t true. I admire a competitive person who might seek out an advantage against a foe. For instance, I think the Pats recent schemes of mixing eligible and ineligible receivers is really quite brilliant. Only, though, because it is completely within the permissible rules.

    That we never heard the full story behind the fine levied against Belichick, and that the revealing tapes were destroyed, does diminish their teams accomplishments. The problem with breaking the rules, even once, though, is that all of your success then becomes suspect.

  161. 161 GEAGLE said at 4:21 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    today Hollis thomas was talking about how they came out in the second half and knew all our plays, offensive and defensive,…there was a really fishy play later in the second half when it was like a 3rd and 9 or something, and they called the exact run play that would gash the defense we were in and they gained 12 yards
    hOLLIS talked about how great coaches make great halftime adjustments but that he had never seen anything like the patriots cracking our offensive and defensive codes to the point that they had the perfect answer for whatever we called on both sides of the ball… hollis talked about how he has experienced great coaches like jim johnson making great halftime adjustments but how he had never seen anything close to what the pats did in the second half in terms of being prepared for whatever we called

    hollis says every Eagle on that team believes the Patriots cheated and that they 100% knew all our play calls, but that some of the Eagles think they should have won anyway, but that its a completely different game if you really know what your opponents is going to do at all times..thats a crazy advantage to have

  162. 162 RobNE said at 5:18 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I want to believe this but what exactly is the accusation? did the MLB not have a mike at that point? and offensive code too, weren’t the offensive plays called into the QB via a mike? how could the Pats be stealing the offensive plays?

  163. 163 ACViking said at 5:35 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Oddly, New England had 2nd-half drives of 3 plays for (-2) yards and 3 plays for 5 yards.

    Impossible to believe, I know because New England knew what the Eagles’ defense would do on every play before the Eagles did.

    But somehow, the Eagles defense managed to stop the Patriots dead. (And sometimes they didn’t.)

    The game’s scoring went:

    0-0 in the 1st Q
    7-7 in the 2nd Q
    7-7 in the 3rd Q
    10-7 in the 4th Q.

    The game was very close.

    The problem was the Eagles’ 3 turnovers (a 4th came on the last, meaningless pass of the game from the Eagles’ 5 yard line with just few seconds left).

    The problem was the Eagles had 2 turnovers in the 1st half. The Pats had 1 (on a muffed snap).

    And that was before the Pats knew what the Eagles were doing.

    In the 2nd half?

    The Eagles had just 1 turnover . . . how could that have happened if New England knew what the Eagles were going to do on every offensive play?

    My favorite stat:

    To start the game, Reid called 3 straight passes — 2 were incomplete and third resulted in a sack.

    WOW . . . that was hard to predict.

    And that was before New England’s halftime adjustments.

    There’s not a game between the Eagles and Cowboys from ’92-’93, during the Jimmy Johnson SB run, when the Eagles didn’t know the plays Dallas was going to run.

    Because Dallas only ran 3-4 plays. Didn’t mean the Eagles could stop them. (That took until 1995 when Switzer was coach.)

    I remain a skeptic of the advantage gained by whatever Belichick did.

    Not that Belichick didn’t oversee some impermissible activities. Just what the advantage was.

    McNabb did not play a SB winning game for a QB on a team throwing 2 of every 3 plays.

    Especially in the 1st half. (And I won’t even get into the Bataan death-march drive for a TD in the 4th Q.)

    I understand the Pats broke the rules.

    But they’ve continued to win — at an even higher rate than before Spygate.

    They’ve reached 2 SBs and were 2 plays away from winning both.

    And . . . if Belichick were available, there’s not a fan of an NFL team wouldn’t be very happy to have him.

    Just where I come out on this.

  164. 164 P_P_K said at 5:40 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Thanks a lot for ruining my emotionally-fueled party with your darn reason and logic.

  165. 165 MagOvertheRainbow said at 5:42 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I certainly do not have your grasp of statistics and I do believe that Belichick skirts the rules. What is a little sad about the whole thing is, as you pointed out, that the Patriots do have talent. It’s almost as if BB doesn’t fully trust his players or coaches.

  166. 166 ACViking said at 5:44 PM on January 31st, 2015:


    I like your point about “trust.” (not to mention Belichick himself is incredibly smart and creative)

    All these coaches fit the control freak profile.

    But Belichick seems to be at another level.

  167. 167 MagOvertheRainbow said at 6:01 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Not an original but speaking of complete control…and creative!


  168. 168 RobNE said at 5:46 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I thought Eagles were winning at half.

  169. 169 RobNE said at 5:47 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    nope I take it back. Should have looked first.

  170. 170 ACViking said at 5:48 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    It felt like they should have been.

    But McNabb threw that horrible INT in the 1st Q in the RZ on a pass to Westbrook (who’d lined up in the slot).

  171. 171 P_P_K said at 5:53 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I did too. I was 100% sure. Checked the stats, though, and it was 7-7.

    Checking the stats also brought back some nightmares. To share the misery: Eagles had a 51-17 pass:run ratio, and Pats beat us 112-45 in rushing. If someone is more of a masochist then me, they could review the end of the 4th quarter when Eagles were down by 10 and went into snooze mode. Happy 10th anniversary of Eagles last Super Bowl.

  172. 172 RobNE said at 5:59 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    that pass ratio is making me ill. I love and hate Andy at the same time.

  173. 173 GEAGLE said at 8:28 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    The patriots shouldn’t even been in the Super Bowl. The cheated us out of an all Pennsylvania Super Bowl…mthey cheated there ass off in the AFC final, and filmed our walk thru and TO running routes before hand…
    Give me a fuckin break, I don’t give a damn how much of an advantage, anything less than an uneven playing field is a joke
    Plenty of teams have lose superbowls, the ONLY winners ever accused of cheating are the Patriots,, too much SMOKE to blame on a smoke machine, where there is that much smoke there is fire,
    BTw, go look at the great Belliceks head coaching accomplishments before the first time he was accused of cheating, I’ll wait, since it won’t take long because there were barely any lol

  174. 174 phillychuck said at 6:02 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Better version:

    Son to Dad: How does a team win the superbowl without cheating??
    Dad: We don’t know, son, we’re Patriot fans.

  175. 175 bentheimmigrant said at 2:49 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Still disappointed we didn’t get fitterer. Not because I actually know anything about him, but for the Radiohead reference.

    Fitterer, happier, more productive…

  176. 176 GEAGLE said at 4:31 PM on January 31st, 2015:


    Maclin says he expects to be an eagle next season. “both sides have made it known what they want to do, i think it will take care of itself”-Maclin

    I am confident we work out a 4-5yr extension, but worst case scenario he gets the franchise tag, so i really wouldnt worry about Jeremy not being back next year…

  177. 177 GermanEagle said at 4:36 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Good news.

    I said it before and I say it again: The will sign one big FA besides their ‘own’ guys.

  178. 178 GEAGLE said at 5:07 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    agree…devin McCourty 🙂

  179. 179 GermanEagle said at 5:08 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Mate, if that happens I will ship you a german beer per USPS.

  180. 180 ACViking said at 5:38 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    do you have a distributor’s license?

    i’ll put in an order!

  181. 181 GermanEagle said at 5:39 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Huh?! Is shipping one bottle of beer not allowed?

  182. 182 ACViking said at 5:41 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    no. perfectly ok.

    i’m buying if you’re selling.

  183. 183 RobNE said at 5:44 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    in some states, no

  184. 184 ACViking said at 5:47 PM on January 31st, 2015:


    If GermanEagle is not engaging in a “sale” in interstate commerce, is that still a problem?

    My impression was some states prohibit non-resident distributors to ship into their state — strictly anti-competitive protection device.

    But how ’bout gifts?

  185. 185 RobNE said at 5:49 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    UPS provides service for other alcoholic beverages (beer and alcohol) on a contract basis only. For shipments containing beer or alcohol, shippers must enter into an approved UPS agreement for the transportation of beer or alcohol as applicable, must be licensed and authorized under applicable law to ship beer and alcohol, and may ship only to licensed consignees.

  186. 186 ACViking said at 5:51 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Great piece of info!!!

  187. 187 P_P_K said at 5:54 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’ve got to ask, how could you know all this? Are you a bootlegger?

  188. 188 ACViking said at 5:55 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    only on this site would you see the word “bootlegger”.

    PPK . . . post of the week!!!

  189. 189 RobNE said at 5:57 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I googled can I ship beer and copied what I found.

  190. 190 P_P_K said at 5:58 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Your truth is safe with us.

  191. 191 GermanEagle said at 5:51 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m a resident of NY. And it would be a nice gesture, no sale involved. But since you have now perfectly confused me I will be drinking my Franziskaner on my own!!! :-p

  192. 192 ACViking said at 5:52 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    You may have to buy the beer through an authorized distributor — who can then ship it.

    That’s how I read Rob NE’s (very excellent) admonition.

  193. 193 GermanEagle said at 5:53 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Never mind. I’ll drink it by myself. 😉

  194. 194 P_P_K said at 5:54 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    C’mon, that was really your plan from the beginning.

  195. 195 GermanEagle said at 6:39 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    You got me!

  196. 196 RobNE said at 5:57 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I copied that from the web.

  197. 197 GEAGLE said at 6:26 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Fortunately if we can’t get McCourty, we have two Fantastic backüp options to fix free agency….. 3 safeties available that can solve our problems. I just don’t want to talk about the other two yet because it’s too early in the process to settle for 2nd and 3rd best for a problem that has plagued us for a decade it feels like..
    But have no fear if we can’t get McCourty, two other safeties the Eagles will like..3 more if you count Rahim Moore, but I can’t get the images of the x plays he gave up out of my head

  198. 198 GermanEagle said at 6:39 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Who are the others two?

  199. 199 GEAGLE said at 8:21 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Da’Norris Searcy told the bills he will test the market, and they already have his replacement on the roster so he will be signing with a new team
    TaShaun Gipson, but he is restricted, Browns will match the offers yt mhe is one of the best young safeties in the game, hopefully he doesn’t sign Longterm with Browns and hits the open Market next year..
    Rahim Moore, but I much prefer Searcy

  200. 200 GermanEagle said at 8:33 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Like Gipson, Searcy and then some Moore.

    What draft pick would you give up for Gipson?

  201. 201 GEAGLE said at 8:41 PM on January 31st, 2015:


  202. 202 GEAGLE said at 8:45 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I can’t take having the same damn problem for a friggin decade, I’m ready to pay whatever to not even tak about safeties until ATleast the 2018 offseason.
    If Searcy had two years starting instead of 1, I would be totally Gung hoe about signing him… A young safety, who hits like a Mac truck, but is also known for being a sure tackler, hard worker, long arms, great ball skills, unlike our DBs, not only does he make plays on the ball in the air, he didmt get flagged all season in coverage…tell me we can’t use some off that?

    I just hate signing free agents that had one big contract year that’s disproportionate for the rest of the years…. This kid had big shoes to fill(BYRD) and he thrived!!!
    Fortunately he won’t be a bill next year, he is switching teams, if we can’t get McCourty, he better be an eagle..

    get Searcy and CB Davon House… Not names that would excite the fanbase, but good players who I expect to really blossom during their next contract..
    And we have young players Couplin, Reynolds, jaylen Watkins, Earl Wolff to compete at safety during training camp. So landing Searcy would mean we don’t have to draft a safety this year, which is more picks we can focus on CB, OL, ILB, WR

  203. 203 GermanEagle said at 9:19 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’m in.

  204. 204 Insomniac said at 6:15 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    What scares me about McCourty is that he might be Chung 2.0..a.k.a the spy that Belichet sent to us.

  205. 205 GEAGLE said at 6:57 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    What did this chung spy get out of us?

  206. 206 GEAGLE said at 5:06 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Free Agency:

    hard hitting safety Bernard Pollard is asking the Titans for his release. The 30yr old was “playing at a high level before missing the final 11 games with Torn Achilles”-local news. I havent watched many titan games so i have no clue how he played, but we know stylistically he doesnt fit our scheme so we wont have any interest… he is owed more than 3mil on the last year of his contract and is 3 months removed from surgery but he wants to be released so he can play for a contender…a 30yr old coming off achiles surgery wants out of his 3 million dollar contract is not very common. this tells me the guy isnt playing for money, is hungry to win and fully intends on overcoming the achilles surgery and making a full return…. I bring this up, to not automatically assume the final nail has been hammered in the Demeco eagles career coffin..dont rule out Mufasa just yet

    hopefully there are some quality players unexpectedly get cut and hit the open market…OLB/DE Mike Johnson is rumored to be waived after signing big deal with the Bucs last year..anyone hear of any names who could end up being waived and become available?
    Bears probably will wave Brandon Marshall, they want to waive Jared Allen now that Fangio is moving them to a 3-4, but they have to pay something crazy like over 10mil worth of dead money to waive Jared Allen, so basically they are stuck lining him up at ROLB and just have him pass rush every play

    If the Eagles are able to sign a quality safety, i dont think they will sign a CB, but if the Eagles do sign a corner, it wont be a big name fans will be happy about. If they add a corner it will be a modest addition like Davon House, nothing to get excited over…. but if the safeties improve and the front 7 doesnt need safety support to stop the run, safeties could focus on supporting the corners…and if thats the case and our safeties dont have to worry about helping in run support, it could get rookie or young CBs on the field a little faster if we can keep two safeties back to help the corners

  207. 207 Anders said at 5:28 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I know 99.99% of Eagles would hate the pick, but Im beginning to really love Maxx Williams for us if we trade back in the 1st round.
    Maxx Williams really reminds me of an Heath Miller coming out (Heath Miller coming out was suppose to be next great TE)

  208. 208 GermanEagle said at 5:30 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Maxx?! Is that how you spell his name or were you just blowing some kisses?!?

  209. 209 Anders said at 5:33 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Nope, that is how you spell it http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/maxx_williams_793659.html

  210. 210 GermanEagle said at 5:37 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    He must have had many girlie fans in high school….

  211. 211 GEAGLE said at 5:51 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Grab Jesse,James later

  212. 212 RobNE said at 5:53 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I don’t follow college players, but from what I’ve read of Kelly and the new guy, and from what I’ve read here on the potential picks, my early guess is McKinnon, who I believe is the 6″5″ ILB. With the Eagles first pick, whenever that might be.

  213. 213 ACViking said at 5:53 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Bednarik McKinney?

  214. 214 Anders said at 5:54 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I think you mean McKinney, I wouldnt mind him and I can 100% see why the Eagles might draft him

  215. 215 RobNE said at 5:56 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    yes thanks. that’s my guess.

  216. 216 Insomniac said at 6:13 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I don’t want him in the first. He could be BPA in the 2nd but unless you’re getting Gronk (which Williams isn’t) then a 1st round TE isn’t as impactful as our positions of need (OL,CB,S,ILB/OLB,WR).

  217. 217 Greg Richards said at 6:30 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Jeff Huermann in the 4th or 5th round.

  218. 218 Anders said at 6:30 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    There is zero safeties I like in the 1st, there is only 1 ILB I really like, the only 4 worthy 1st round WRs are most likely gone around pick 20, CB only have one worth a 1st right now for us (Tray Waynes and he most likely go way before 20), so great chance that we trade back from pick 20th.

  219. 219 Insomniac said at 6:53 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I’d still put all of those positions ahead of Williams. It’s simply not a good year for TEs. Ertz will hopefully get more playing time and Casey could kick out to TE if Celek is done. That would let Burton get more snaps.

  220. 220 Anders said at 7:37 AM on February 1st, 2015:

    Its a bad overall year for TE, but Maxx is a late 1st round talent

  221. 221 GEAGLE said at 6:09 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    How hard would it be for the Eagles to steal a restricted free agent from the Browns? I remember restricted free agency used to be a farce, is that still the case or are teams starting to go after each other’s RFA’s yet???

  222. 222 ICDogg said at 6:29 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    From the Browns? They have tons of cap room. The only reason they wouldn’t match is if they just didn’t think the player was worth overpaying, or if it was just a pretext to a trade.

  223. 223 GEAGLE said at 7:08 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Hopefully the kid wants to test the free agent market and doesn’t sign a Longterm deal this offseason.
    It annoys me how bum ass Browns always have DB talent
    Lost Ward, and they still have HITner and Gipson.. They stole Jordan Poyer for us and he got playng time this year in a so.id secondary

  224. 224 Greg Richards said at 6:29 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    There was a little more action in RFA last year compared to most(when there’s none). Teams typically give anyone worthwhile the 2nd round tender or higher.

  225. 225 GEAGLE said at 6:56 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    If Browns still have a ton of cap space, forget it, they like Gipson way too much to not match any offer…shame. Tho he is still on my mind in case he isn’t happy in Cleveland which is always possible and goes back for a year and insists on hitting free agency next year…. Stylistically he is a perfect fit for what we do

  226. 226 GEAGLE said at 6:23 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I don’t want to admit this, because it’s too early in the process to settle for 2nd and 3rd best, but the truth is if we miss out on signing McCourty, there are two other Safety possibilities that could be fantastic additions to us,.. But for now, safety has killed us for so long, and McCourty is the perfect can’t miss, fit to play next to Malcolm Jenkins in this scheme, I really really want to see us turn a weakness to a strength, fixing this safety problem once and for all with McCourty/Jenkins putting years of safety incompetance to bed..
    But know that if we can’t get McCourty, there are two other really good options for us…

  227. 227 RobNE said at 6:27 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    are you going to tell us, or no b/c we might tell the other teams (like the Steelers). Most of us wouldn’t do that. And I imagine the GM’s know who you are thinking about.

  228. 228 GEAGLE said at 6:31 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    Don’t want everyone to accept it being ok for the Eagles to not go after a stud like McCourty. Tired of settling at safety, I don’t want to NEED a safety again TIL ATleast 2018

    One is proclamation because he is restricted, one of the top young safeties fans don’t really praise, Cleveland’s TaShaun Gipson.. 6 INTs, then sprained his MCL week 12, Cleveland really values the young stud and want him to be part of their future so they shut him down for the season in week 12 and he still was one of the eague leader in INTs at his position

  229. 229 Greg Richards said at 6:32 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    No chance in hell Gipson leaves Cleveland.

  230. 230 GEAGLE said at 6:40 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    No chance they let him leave..THATS the PROBLEM… But CBS/Safety out of Wyoming, perfect safety we would like for our scheme

    Fortunately the other safety solution for us is changing teams next year…Da’Noris Searcy has informed the bills he won’t sign an extension and plans on testing the market.. And they have his replacement already Duke Johnson, so you can bet Da’Norris Searcy, won’t be playing for the Bills next year, why not us?

    I got him as who we will go after HARD if we can’t get McCourty… Problem is signing him breaks one of my Cardinal Rules: stay away from players who only have 1 big year.. For example, a lot of people were tricked into thinking MIke Mitchell was a good safety last year because of one break out season, steelers signed him and they regret it already…. Searcy only started this year, was a subpackage DB the first few years, but he replaced Jrius BYRD and made Buffalo fans quickly forget about BYRD…. I just wish Searcy had two great seasons under his belt instead of one… If it weren’t for that issue, I might want him more than McCourty…
    Why he is a great fit….

  231. 231 GEAGLE said at 6:45 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    This kid has really good ball skills, makes a lot of plays on the ball, and for someone who defended so many passes this year, it’s almost unheard of that he didn’t commit a single penalty… Plays with the discapline we lacked in the back end that killed us last year… 5’11 210lbs, but long arms, compact explosive body…
    the good part is even tho he is really good in coverage, he also like to Thump and hit people really hard, btw, he is an extremely sure tackler…Know for his hard work, discapline, hard hitting but sure tackling, cover skills, ball skills, the 26 year old is PERFECT answer to replace Nate, if we aren’t able to land McCourty, I just hate that he doesn’t have more than one year starting, but a prime candidate for the type of young player we want, the type who’s best balls comes in his second contract..
    Also, everyone knows that you can’t have a great defense without dreadlocks and a Samoan, ATleast he fills our lacking dreadlock quota…

    If we miss out on McCourty, sign Safety Searcy, and CB Davon House…

  232. 232 RobNE said at 6:39 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    it’s funny or something how you think you need to set our expectations over what should be ok. I don’t actually influence anything the Eagles do, and I doubt there is anyone that does that reads this blog. If Chip reads this blog and was thinking McCourty but then thought oh, there are two other guys, but THEN thought no no GEAGLE says I can’t accept those choices as ok yet, well in that case I would really be surprised.

    So why don’t you just tell us the other name too.

  233. 233 GEAGLE said at 6:46 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    As if every year I dont.. Nevermind… Ok
    I was typing jackass… I do it in seperate posts because my comp freezes and I didn’t want to type a lot and lose it… If I knew you were going to be a dick, I woldnt have posted it

  234. 234 wee2424 said at 12:38 AM on February 1st, 2015:

    The way everyone keeps talking you would think McCourty has no chance of resigning with NE. I would love to have him, but dont you think NE is going to try hard and keep him? Maybe alot of it will depend upon this SB. If he wins one he may lean more towards testing the market. If NE loses maybe he decides to try and stay since they may be his best chance of getting another shot at the SB. Just a thought.

  235. 235 GEAGLE said at 7:01 PM on January 31st, 2015:

    I know that this is a football blog but how is everyone not feeling the Nick Diaz vs. Anderson Silva goosebumps?what an epic night this will be:

    Diaz vs. Anderson
    .76ers vs, Atlanta
    Duke Vs, Virginia

    Awesome Saturday night if you are alone in a hotel like me