More Beefcake

Posted: February 3rd, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 208 Comments »

We can argue about a lot of different things when it comes to the offseason. How aggressive should the Eagles be in drafting a QB? How many DBs should they add? Would it be okay to take a RB early? And so on. One thing the team must do is add some quality young offensive linemen.

Evan Mathis isn’t your typical 33-year old OG. He is in great shape and he doesn’t have the usual wear and tear because he has only started 78 games in his career. But he is still 33 and that means age is starting to become a factor, whether his career ends in 2015, 2016 or 2017.

There is nothing normal about Jason Peters. He just turned 33 and might be in the best shape of his life. But again…age is an issue.

Todd Herremans is the most normal of the trio, since he isn’t a freak athlete and has been a starter for almost a decade. His body is wearing down a bit. 2015 could be his final season.

There is no need to panic, but the Eagles do need some youth in the mix at OL. Matt Tobin showed potential in 2014, but also struggled at times. He can get better now that he’s got a full offseason to work on the holes in his game.

When Jimmy Bama put together his mock, he had the Eagles taking OL in the 3rd, 4th and 7th rounds. Some of you didn’t like that, but there is definitely an argument to be made for something like that.

The Eagles have tried to develop some young talent in the last couple of years.

Matt Tobin
Michael Bamiro
Dennis Kelly

Bamiro is gone. Kelly failed to impress last year and is a holdover from the Reid era. Tobin is a UDFA who can run block, but is highly inconsistent in pass protection.

Right now the backup OL under the age of 28 are:

Julian Vandervelde
David Molk
Josh Andrews
Kevin Graf
Tobin
Kelly

Molk played fairly well in 2014 and is fine for backup C. Vandy is a backup G/C type, but I haven’t seen starting potential from him. Andrews lists at OG on the current roster, but might best fit at C.

Graf has RT potential, but isn’t a good athlete.

Tobin is versatile and young, so he has a good shot for a roster spot. This will be a make-or-break offseason for Kelly. He must show real progress. He’s only 25 so you’d love him to prove worthy of keeping.

The Eagles should try to draft a couple of OL. One could come as early as the 1st round. There’s no need to force a pick, but if the right guy is on the board, don’t be afraid to take him, even though he’ll most likely sit for a year.

So let’s talk about what Chip Kelly will want in an OL.

OT – Should be 6-5 to 6-8. Needs good feet so he can pass protect. Must have long arms, big hands. Can have thin, athletic frame or can be more of a massive guy as long as he has the necessary athleticism. Due to the presence of Lane Johnson, there is no need for the player to definitively be a RT or LT. Johnson has proven to be a good NFL RT, but has the potential to slide over and replace Peters when he retires.

OG – Should be 6-3 to 6-5. Must be able to pull and get to the outside. Must be able to block on the 2nd level (LB area). Long arms/big hands not as critical, but still desired. Athleticism is more important than bulk. Ideal OG would be about 305. Stout enough to anchor in pass pro, but light enough to block well on the move.

OC – Should be 6-1 to 6-4. Must be smart, good communicator and natural leader. Athleticism is critical. Eagles like OC to be able to pull and get outside on run plays, which isn’t common. Ability to play with good leverage is critical. Must be able to get under the pads of the NT/DT, who is likely to be much bigger.

The Eagles need general depth. They need talent to develop for the future. They can spend early picks or could use mid and even late round picks. There is no set formula on what they need to do.

I’m still studying prospects so it is too early to throw out a bunch of names of who might fit. One thing to keep in mind is that Kelly loves versatile guys. Look for someone who has played multiple spots. Or maybe look for an OT that played OG in an all star game. Things like that.

Tyler Aston has written a few OL scouting reports for us. His take on Pitt star TJ. Clemmings is now posted over at ScoutsNotebook. That is the full report (much more detail, expected round/value). Here is Tyler’s take on Clemmings and the Eagles.

Fit with the Eagles: TJ Clemmings is a powerful and athletic blocker who profiles well as a fit for the Eagles. He is a bit raw, having made the switch from defense just two years ago, but has a very high ceiling. He is an ideal candidate to play RG for the Eagles next year and can transition to RT down the line. He will also have to transition from a power run scheme to zone blocking, but seems to be intuitive and has a skill set should ease the transition.

The Eagles are a running team. Adding a dominant run blocker like Clemmings would definitely make some sense. Make sure go read the full scouting report.

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I never posted notes from Day 3 of the Senior Bowl. I traveled that day and was wiped out the next couple of days.; Since getting back I’ve been watching the practice footage that I DVR’d while down in Mobile. The TV feed shows you some stuff you can’t see from the bleachers. I’ve also been watching some footage from PE.com and the great stuff they have.

I will be posting a detailed practice overview in the next day or two. I want to give notes, but also context. Take TJ Clemmings for example. He struggled at times in Mobile. But he also showed his potential. He didn’t light the place up like many of us expected, but his issues weren’t anything we didn’t already know about. That might be different from another player who struggled and had some parts of his game exposed.

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208 Comments on “More Beefcake”

  1. 1 dislikedisqus said at 11:23 AM on February 3rd, 2015:

    One more criterion: must be a converted QB.

  2. 2 Gary Barnes said at 11:30 AM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Amen, Tommy, amen….the OL should be a major focus this draft/offseason along with CB, S and LB

  3. 3 Insomniac said at 11:39 AM on February 3rd, 2015:

    It’s not that some of us are opposed to drafting OL high but it’s the right guy that we want. I wanted OL high last year and this is a great year to get a few high upside guys. As for Jimmy’s mock..well Jimmy didn’t really take the appealing guys because he’s a hack and wants to prove that he can scout.

  4. 4 anon said at 11:43 AM on February 3rd, 2015:

    years of terrible drafting coming to roost

  5. 5 GEAGLE said at 1:08 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Not sure what you are talking about since we had 3 solid drafts in a row

  6. 6 anon said at 1:11 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    which 3 are those?

  7. 7 GEAGLE said at 1:14 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    14,13,12… duh

  8. 8 GermanEagle said at 1:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    While you cannot call a draft class a bust after one year only, the same should be applied to the opposite, i.e. calling the 2014 draft “solid” might be similarily premature.

  9. 9 GEAGLE said at 2:19 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    maybe for you… i trust my evaluations, and i know you are aware of the fact that we drafted players i wanted badly leading up to next years draft, and tho i wanted those players badly, i knew they wouldnt do a damn thing as rookies, cough cough marcus… i have complete believe that i evaluated him correctly, and im fortunate that his charechter is on point, and have you seen what coach McGovern turned Cole and BG into after two years? today IM THRILLED MAAAAAAARCUS Daaaarling is an eagle!!!! and he will go on to make me look brilliant, and alot of people look stupid…

    Pope is going to be a great pick, only question is how great!!
    ..
    i have NO DOUBT a rookie who can learn 3 different positions and practice at all 3 positions will grow to produce for us, im just not sure what position watkins will settle down at…

    as you know i wanted us, and i expected us to draft Taylor Hart, nothing has happened that should lead me to change my mind on the kid

    if the eages are drafting the players i believed in before they became eagles, how can you expect me to be down on them, when i expected them to start off slow?
    ..
    i didnt like the Huff pick, but he has a chance to prove me wrong and make me a believer.. I didnt hate Reynolds, i like that he will be at camp, but im not certain he can win an NFL spot..

    still im confident 3 players atleast will emerge from last years draft, and thats a good draft if you ask me..

  10. 10 GermanEagle said at 2:38 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    With all due respect to your confidence, but I only believe it when I see it on the field from those players, especially your Marcus darling.

  11. 11 GEAGLE said at 2:48 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I dont expect my opinion to mean anything to you…. but you know how i viewed these kids way before we drafted them, how can you expect me to be down on them when they havent fallen behind the timeline i expected? i expected this, and wanted them regardless…why would my opinion change? when i wanted to draft Marcus last year so he could be ready for when we loss Cole or BG.. that hasnt happened yet, why would i be down on the kid? of course im talking with people who wanted to replace Bennie Logan after an extremely promising roookie season, so what can i really expect?

  12. 12 GermanEagle said at 3:02 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    First of all let me make this clear: I didn’t want you to be down on your guys. I was just saying that you cannot expect everyone to like such a young draft class without seeing any results on the field yet. That’s why the non-bust argument applies the same way.
    And lastly to correct you wrong again: I have never doubted Bennie nor did I want to upgrade him. Not sure who you have been confusing me all the time.

  13. 13 GEAGLE said at 3:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    i dont care what everyone expects, everyone is rarely right when it comes to the eagles.. im concerned with reality, and im confident in my grasp on eagle reality compared to the masses consensus,…. at some point the masses will get tired of being wrong so often lol

  14. 14 GermanEagle said at 3:33 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Sometimes I really don’t understand what your problem is.

  15. 15 GEAGLE said at 8:16 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    You decide tot respond like a snotty cunt, so I respond like a snotty cunt, only I use facts.. Not a complicated concept .. Yous talk shit for months and get mad and ezpect not to hear a I told you so later when proven correct lol… Must suck how I right i am 😉

  16. 16 GermanEagle said at 8:36 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Listen Linda, yous so Gangsta. Lol. C u next Thursday.

  17. 17 ACViking said at 11:45 AM on February 3rd, 2015:

    T-Law:

    Your blog music’s never sweeter than when you’re speaking as a scout about player evaluations, team preferences, and the draft.

    Like listening to Cliburn on a Steinway . . . .

    Really great.

  18. 18 Cafone said at 12:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Kelly’s got three years left on his deal. Does he really have time to develop offensive lineman? If possible, I’d rather see the Eagles try and address offensive line through free agency rather than spend picks on guys that may be ready to start in the final year of Kelly’s deal.

    If we were in a draft position to pick a monster that could replace Peters, that would be a different story. But we are not.

  19. 19 Anders said at 12:52 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Why does the length of Kelly’s deal matter? I be confident that Kelly isnt even thinking on if he has 3 or 998 years left

  20. 20 GEAGLE said at 1:05 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yeah I really don’t think chip and Lurie care about the contract deadline,.
    ..
    Chips building a program, and he Will be extended before we ever let him go into a season as a lame duck.

    Everyone thinks chip will run back to college, I wouldnt be surprised if chips college days are OVER… He is too competitive to go back to coaching 53-7 blowouts… I have a feeling he will obsessively Chase NFL success, the best of the best, whete any week you can lose to anyone…. Thinking chips college days are Over

  21. 21 Daniel Norman Richwine said at 12:14 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Given what we saw last year, I want an OL in rounds 1-5, it seems a great OL = a great offense.

  22. 22 Ark87 said at 12:16 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    At this point mock drafts are just another way of saying what you think a team’s roster priorities should be and what type of player you think fits well as defined by what the draft mocker thinks of the player. Keep in mind the same people that make these mock drafts are the ones advocating BPA, and every mock draft ever is drawn up on perceived needs. Wouldn’t get too into the scouting and rating of the individual players right now, nor think of it as a forecast.

  23. 23 GEAGLE said at 1:03 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    For the most part, you are right….. But I always try to look at it a little different, I think we can use talent at almost any posituon, some more than others, but only dumb coaches look to fill immediate roster openings via the draft.
    ..
    Smart coaches fill next years needs in free,agency, and they use the draft for long term roster shaping, for example last year we had to draft an OLB! We didn’t need him for last year, but we knew we could lose COle and BG a year later so he needed to be drafted then, so he could be ready if we lose BG a and COle this year.

    So while I look at needs for the draft, I’m more interested in identifying certain players chip would like, more than Im concerned about positions… For example, I wont bother figuring out our 5 best CB options, I’m more concerned with trying to identify the. One of two corners that SCREAM Chip Kelly player….I might lean towards a certain need today, but by the time the draft comes around I will probably view a certain players at every position that I think chip would covet

    But if we look at the draft as a source to fill next years immediate needs, your predictions will Probably be off, because front office doesn’t view the draft as a quick fix… I’d say every position is in play for the drafts with the exception of maybe RB, but even RB I wouldn’t be too surprised to see us draft

  24. 24 ACViking said at 1:15 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    The (sound) philosophy you describe for stocking a team seems to have been the way the Eagles historically did things in the Reid / Banner / Roseman era . . . with a couple of very obviously explainable exceptions, like McNabb and Shawn Andrews.
    ____________

    Here’s Roseman on PE.com after the 2014 SB:

    “That’s what the draft has to be – it has to be taking the best players,
    accumulating really great players and then you look to free agency to
    fill holes and try to get incremental upgrades. The
    draft is about getting guys that we’re trying to keep around for a long
    time.”

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Roseman-We-Must-Build-The-Right-Way/d4f8ff78-e762-40da-98ff-1e13bf4f2631
    ______________

    What we don’t know with certainty is Kelly’s philosophy for building a team.

    To be sure, there’s the argument that the past two off-seasons reflect Kelly’s vision.

    On the other hand, Roseman was still in the mix and so may have influenced some of the choices that were made.

    Even now, with Roseman out on the personnel side, he still — presumably — may have impactful influence through the spending of Jeff Lurie’s money.
    ______________

    That said, my money’s on Kelly continuing, in substantially the same philosophical form, what occurred in the Reid/Banner/Roseman era.

    Until something crazy happens.

  25. 25 GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    This will especially hold true for a coach that has proven to not care what round you were drafted, he has no problem benching you Til you beat out the players in front of him and earn his spot….no matter how long it takes you to earn that spot
    ..
    As for Roseman, I don’t believe anything will change, because I don’t believe Howie has had any say in years… During the honeymoon phase Howie was worried about getting chip whatever he wanted, after the honeymoon phase, Gamble and Chip were ganging up on Howie, I don’t think anything will change from the past two years, because I think chip was calling all the shots since he arrived here anyway….
    ..
    I don’t expect to notice the loss of Howie, other than Monday night radio show from chickies n petes lol

  26. 26 ACViking said at 1:58 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    “after the honeymoon phase, Gamble and Chip were ganging up on Howie, I don’t think anything will change from the past two years, because I think chip was calling all the shots since he arrived here anyway”
    ____________

    makes sense. a lot of sense

  27. 27 ACViking said at 1:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Is CB D-Roll, from Miami OH, a Kelly guy?

    Love the way that guy form tackles — not to mention tracks and makes plays on the ball.

    Problem is, if he runs well at the Combine, no way he lasts ’til 20.

    Or have I mistaken this guy for Kyle Fuller?

  28. 28 GEAGLE said at 1:23 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    You mean Q Roll? No idea about the young man over than sick footwork, ball skills. Athleticism that chip will think he can mold into a quality corner… We talking about the basketball player? I haven’t heard anything about what type of person he is one way or the other. I don’t know about red flags, or if he is graduating..
    ,…
    But from the athleticism, measurable stand point, YES! Chip DOESNT care about the safe polished prospects in the draft, he wants the freak upside that he can groom into elite prospect down the line… That’s why people have to be Braindead to bitch about Marcus after his first year, chip drafted him for what we can grow him into 3 years from now… If Charecter/Intelligence checks out, I’m sure he will be on our draft board from an athleticism measurable stand point.
    ..
    I like him infinitely more than I ever liked Marsh

  29. 29 ACViking said at 1:25 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yes . . . Q-ROLL!!!

    thank you
    [edit made]

  30. 30 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    dont buy the 1st round hype… he will fall to round 2, the question will be will he fall to us, or will we have to move up and snatch him earlier in round two like we did with Pope Jordan, which is why if i cant have an unexpected stud fall to us at 20 like shelton or Bud Dupree, id rather trade back get an extra pick and take kendricks, that extra pick is either an extra 3rd round prospect, or the trade ammunition to trade up and secure a stud like Q Rollins after he falls out of round 1… no one will view Q as a CB that can start in september, so dont buy the round 1 BS by the misinformed…

  31. 31 Anders said at 1:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Rollins checks the marks for a Kelly guy.

    He has already graduated and has enough size 5’11 that Kelly will ignore him. He is also super athletic and versatile as he can line up both wide and in the slot and is a good enough tackler to be our dime CB

  32. 32 GEAGLE said at 1:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Thanks for the graduation INTELL…check another “kelly box”
    ..l
    I’m pissed that Ricco Gaethers is in the NBA burried on a bench instead of Beasting at TE for us. That man is scary, belongs on a football field

  33. 33 mksp said at 1:53 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I think he’ll be there at #20. He’s still relatively new at the position and is coming from a mid-major.

    One of the guys I would really like at #20, along with Alvin Dupree.

    Won’t matter though, since we’re taking Brett Hundley at #20. 😉

  34. 34 ACViking said at 2:05 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    mksp:

    I really like them both.

    I’m sure I’m in the minority on Hundley — right now, at least.

    Was McNabb so much better in college than Hundley?

    Doesn’t seem he was. But what do I know.
    ______________

    I’m waiting on the full-blown breakdown on Hundley from T-Law and Belichick over at SNB.

    I’m still a big Foles booster. But Hundley’s intriguing.

    But Rollins? Get that man!

  35. 35 Anders said at 2:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/brett-hundley-1.html

    http://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/donovan-mcnabb-1.html

    There college stats is really similar. I do think Hundley is a better athlete than McNabb.

    I do actually think Hundley is very reminence of McNabb coming out (McNabb also played in a pseudo spread in college). Diffrence is Hundley has far better offensive teammates where McNabb has top 3 defense to help him.

  36. 36 Insomniac said at 2:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I’m all for Hundley at the right value.

  37. 37 Anders said at 2:18 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    The question then is what is the right value

  38. 38 Insomniac said at 2:44 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Depends on his combine.

  39. 39 mksp said at 3:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    It’s a growing minority for sure.

    Hundley is the guy I want at #20. He’s got all the tools to be a great QB. His college career can be characterized as poorly coached with poor talent around him. Hundley made a lot of questionable decisions, and clearly is not a finished product, but his ceiling is a taller Russell Wilson (albeit, likely without the “leadership” intangibles, though I haven’t heard anything bad about his character whatsoever).

    But he has the size, athleticism and arm to run Chip’s offense the way it is intended to be run. He can already make throws that Nick Foles can only dream of making.

    ICYMI from the last thread:

    http://draftbreakdown.com/ndt-scouting-report-ucla-quarterback-brett-hundley/

    I’m not going to get bogged down on the question of “value” here. If he’s available you take him at #20 because he may not be there at #52.

    McNabb vs. Hundley is an interesting.

  40. 40 ACViking said at 3:15 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    “It’s a growing minority for sure”
    _____

    Of heretics, some might argue. Quite vigorously.

  41. 41 mksp said at 3:27 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I just keep going back to this throw:

    http://draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=254987&gif=GlitteringUnknownDromedary

  42. 42 ACViking said at 3:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    BTW . . . I did miss that. big Thx!

  43. 43 D3FB said at 4:21 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I probably won’t do a write up on Hundley. The Kyle Crabs write up that mksp showed you is exactly where I stand on Hundley as a prospect. I’ve done the film work, but it would just be a different format from Kyle’s.

    I am considering a post on game theory for selecting Hundley. A prisoner’s dilema flowchart.

  44. 44 Anders said at 4:23 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Would love that post

  45. 45 ACViking said at 6:59 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    That’ll work.

    Definitely do the game theory post.

    Fits the bill, if you would.

  46. 46 GEAGLE said at 12:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Has jimmy Ever accurately predicted a single eagle draft pick? Lol should have some minimum accuracy rate to have your opinion passed along as if someone should give a damn. What does Jimmy know about the draft? Lol

  47. 47 Jason said at 1:21 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Apparently, he lacks sufficient inclusion of non sequitur “Lol”s in his draft analysis to be taken seriously.

  48. 48 Bert's Bells said at 2:47 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Kempski’s use of standard capitalization and self-deprecating wit nullify anything he has to say about football.

  49. 49 A Roy said at 5:02 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    But what about his artistry?

  50. 50 MagOvertheRainbow said at 7:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Brilliant! With a total disregard for standard use of colour or space. Examples should be posted on every kindergarten wall in the nation, to inspire a new generation of radical thinkers! ;~D

  51. 51 ACViking said at 1:24 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Jimmy, aka “il Voce,” was ahead of the curve on D-Jax’s departure.

    I think he wrote, at some point, that he’d been tipped by someone inside the organization.

  52. 52 GEAGLE said at 1:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Having an exec tell you that the Eagles were shopping NF Desean is very different than watching film of a college kid and say THATS someone the Eagles have to have..,

    Tho I like his Shaq call more than the masses who will worry about “fit” … I don’t see him as a safety. gain 10lbs and he is almost Kendricks size..

  53. 53 Bert's Bells said at 2:46 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Did he say that he was tipped?

    I just remember him laying out an argument based on Maclin/Cooper and the use of positional resources. It was pretty convincing, even though I thought it was insane.

  54. 54 ACViking said at 3:02 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I seem to remember that disclosure after DJax was gone.

  55. 55 Anders said at 1:32 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Im not sure he is trying to predict what the Eagles will do, but what he thinks they should do.

  56. 56 GEAGLE said at 1:39 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Did he have us taking shaq with Kendricks still available? KEndricks is SHAQ with actual LB size lol

  57. 57 Anders said at 1:54 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I do prefer Kendricks to Shaq, unless we convert Shaq to safety

  58. 58 GEAGLE said at 1:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Agreed…. But I doubt we would ever look at Shaq as a safety… An LB/S can’t mirror a CB/S like Jenkins no matter how talented the ILB is…
    ..
    If you tell me we are sticking an undersized ILB next to Kendricks, I’m assuming you stuck a behemoth like Shelton in front of him

  59. 59 Anders said at 1:57 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I really do not think we need mirror safeties unless we begin to play a lot more cover 2.

    With cover 3 the SS, should just be able to cover TEs and WRs in the slot and I think Shaq can do that.

  60. 60 Anders said at 2:00 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    But the convert I much rather want is Eric Rowe to play FS for us.

  61. 61 GEAGLE said at 2:11 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    i dig him… dying to see all the convert players run at the combine

  62. 62 D3FB said at 4:18 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Rowe can’t tackle to save his life at S. Watch some of the McGill cut ups.

  63. 63 GEAGLE said at 2:03 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I expect us to play more cover 2.. We saw the second half of the season how screwed we were not being able to play cover 2…. When Meco went down. We lost the ability to play cover 2, cuz while the simple minded fools talk about how MEco can’t drop into coverage, that’s has lf bullshit. MECO can’t cover man to man, but he is excellet in knowing his depth when dropping into coverage, he knows where to be to get in the QBs. Way which is why we saw him get INTs..
    ..
    When he got hurt. casey can replace him in run game, but he can’t cover like MECO, so nickel package went out the window, because we didn’t have a 2nd LB that can cover, so we had to play Dime, which means teams could run on us, which mean we had to glue a safety in the box… The fact we could not play cover 2 killed us, and I think we can’t wait to have the cover two option back in our playbook, but we need two LBs in the game to be able to play cover two… We can’t play cover two with Nolan functioning as an ILB
    ..
    We didn’t even achieve the mirrored safety we strive for yet,,… That’s coming this year I believe

  64. 64 anon said at 2:04 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    we might play what we play b/c of what we have.

  65. 65 Anders said at 2:07 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    No, we play cover 3 because that is what Kelly think is the best base defense (both the Seahawks and the Pats play mainly cover 1/3 as well)

  66. 66 GEAGLE said at 1:10 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    McCourty made a bunch of comments about not leaving the Patriots… Kiss him goodbye

    Seattle entire secondary is having surgery, might be a good idea to keep the only healthy LOB member, Byron Maxwell

    I hate that Tashuan Gipson is restricted, and we can’t poison pill the Browns…

    I can’t get over the X plays Rahim Moore gave up in crunch time…

    Hello Davon House, Hello Da’Norris Searcy, welcome to Philadelphia

  67. 67 anon said at 1:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    that’s too bad. there are still “eagles-level” guys out there.

  68. 68 GEAGLE said at 1:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    If Searcy didn’t tell the bills he was going to test the open market, Id be freaking out right now….bring me Searcy!!!!

  69. 69 xeynon said at 2:07 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    It’s easy to say that in the afterglow of a Super Bowl championship. Let’s see what he says when his agent tells him Belichick is lowballing him and he should test the open market.

  70. 70 GEAGLE said at 2:10 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    doesnt matter, if its true that the Patriots are willing to franchise him…9mil for an elite safety 1 more year with Brady in his twilight is worth it

  71. 71 anon said at 2:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    no reason that team can’t compete for another one.

  72. 72 xeynon said at 1:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I’m all for drafting an OL high, maybe two. Putting resources into the OL isn’t sexy, but it solves a lot of other problems (just look at how much better Romo and Murray played after the Cowboys drafted Smith, Frederick, and Martin in consecutive drafts).

    Ideally, I’d like to see them take a CB, S, ILB, and OL in the top four rounds, in some order. We’ll see what happens.

  73. 73 GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Every position except RB is a NEED n the draft!
    ..
    Free Agent Needs are different: RG, S, CB, OLB(if we lose COle and BG)

  74. 74 ACViking said at 1:20 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Melvin Gordon’s on the board when choice No. 40 hits the clock.

    What does Kelly do?

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 1:27 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I can have the Discapline to pass on him if I see him on the board in round 1, but I don’t trust my self to be able to pass on him in round two lol….. baby Jamaal Charles in a zone ready? DANGER! DANGER!,DANGER! Lol.. I would leave the draft room and tell an underling not to draft him lol

  76. 76 xeynon said at 1:29 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I’d actually consider him. RBs are replaceable commodities these days but that guy is a real talent and a perfect fit for the system, and Shady’s not getting any younger.

  77. 77 Anders said at 1:33 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I take Todd Gurley if he is there at no 52 (not 40 as 32+20 is 52 😛 :D)

  78. 78 ACViking said at 1:53 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Oops . . .

    Thanks for the remedial math lesson.

    Dumb lawyer!!!

  79. 79 GEAGLE said at 1:54 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Pretend we traded back to 40 😉

  80. 80 ACViking said at 1:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    LMAO!!!

    Bene

  81. 81 Anders said at 1:33 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I 100% draft a RB in this draft if the right one is there in the right round.

  82. 82 GEAGLE said at 1:40 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I wouldn’t look for one, if the value is too good to pass on, I’d draft any positiom

  83. 83 Anders said at 1:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    For me Jay Ajayi or TJ Yeldon in the 3rd or Todd Gurley in 2nd is too good to pass up

  84. 84 GEAGLE said at 1:44 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    365 days ago, every jackass with a radio and TV platform was Johnny football this, the great johnny football that every moron with a platform thought this bum was going to be great, yet he had the most BUST potential since friggin TEBOW and now all the media morons who spent months building the great Johnny up on TV, now rip the Browns for drafting him…. Lol interesting…,. He was chip Kellys wet dream a year ago lol. OMG can you imagine how the sky will fall of johnny falls all the way to the Eagles??.. Bwahahahah HEE HAW HEE HAW!!!

    Love watching these no credibility hacks ripping the Browns for drafting their media darling…

  85. 85 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 2:08 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Now the browns are prepared to trade up in the draft to secure on of the top QBs, preferably Mariota.

  86. 86 anon said at 2:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    plenty of ammunition

  87. 87 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 2:16 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I agree they can absolutely pull it off.

  88. 88 Bert's Bells said at 2:35 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I hope not. It’s like seeing Griffin go to the Redskins -so much potential gone to ruin in a horrible situation.

  89. 89 ACViking said at 1:50 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Re: The Way They Were — just 12 Months Ago

    Here’s an excerpt, including quotes, from PE.com’s post-SB interview with then-GM Howie Roseman about how the Eagles would be operating on the personnel side in preparing for the 2014 draft.
    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Roseman-We-Must-Build-The-Right-Way/d4f8ff78-e762-40da-98ff-1e13bf4f2631

    There’s also an interesting quote from Roseman about his direct dealings with Kelly.

    In light of recent changes, I think the info’s illuminating — particularly because it’s a PE.com piece and, therefore, presumptively very reliable at the margins.

    (I edited the excerpt to shorten it up.)
    __________

    On the personnel side, the Eagles are ramping up draft preparation with the NFL Scouting Combine less than three weeks away.

    Given the strict parameters provided by the coaches for the players they wish to acquire at specific positions, the personnel department can whittle the talent pool and highlight prospects worthy of increased attention.

    Roseman and his staff have relayed to coaches the names of certain prospects throughout the college football season who could be of interest come May’s draft, but now is the time that the coaches really get involved in the scouting process.

    “All our scouts come in tonight (Monday), and we start draft meetings starting tomorrow (Tuesday). What we really do for that is get prepared for the Combine.

    “We’ll narrow down (the list) and make sure our coaches are focused on the guys that we like. . . .

    “[W]hen these guys fit us – whether because of the height-weight-speed requirements that we’re looking for or from a character perspective, given by position by our coaching staff – then we can narrow it down and really zone in on those guys and really get to know them really well.

    “I think that’s worked out for us really well the last two years [in the 2012, 2103 drafts].

    “With Coach (Kelly), obviously step by step throughout the course of the year, if I see a guy I really like, Coach is two doors down from me, I go in and I go, ‘Man, Coach, you’re going to be real excited to watch this guy.’ . . .

    “We talk about the guys that we think can fit us in free agency and the draft and try to balance our needs with who might be on the board.

    “This player at (pick) 22 may be available. He’s a really good player. He may not be ideally the position we’re looking for, but we have to spend our time on him because he might fall and a year from now he may be (worthy of) a top-10 pick.

    “Those are the kinds of conversations we’re having daily.”

  90. 90 Greg Richards said at 6:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    While I’d like the player personnel director to have an independent voice and not be a total yes-man, I do think you have to a guy who thinks like the coach does and views players the same way. Hard to put into words but to me Marynowitz and the scouting staff he ends up building(I expect a turnover of scouts after the draft) finding a guy they like and there being a strong chance Kelly also likes the player is different than Roseman and his scouting staff trying to find guys that fit Kelly’s parameters that they may or may not actually have a strong favorable opinion on.

  91. 91 Greg Richards said at 1:58 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Minor coaching changes –

    Matt Harper was moved from asst STs coach to asst DBs coach
    Tra Thomas’s contract was not renewed. He was an offensive assistant coach.

  92. 92 anon said at 2:04 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    wow i thought tra thomas was doing well. Any info on Harper?

  93. 93 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    A:

    Thomas was in charge of the deep back ups, I guess.

  94. 94 Greg Richards said at 3:21 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I know Thomas owns some gyms and in the past has worked with guys privately before the combines, so him leaving could be his own choice.

  95. 95 Anders said at 2:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    We also hired a guy from Princeton

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/Kelly-Rounds-Out-Coaching-Staff/334b21af-4253-4471-9223-7a6106411413

  96. 96 Insomniac said at 2:10 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Paging FSU guys and Belichet (D3). How good is Ronald Darby?

  97. 97 D3FB said at 4:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Flashed watching live, but I won’t watch him in depth til this summer since he’s not eligible.

  98. 98 Anders said at 4:22 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Darby has declared for draft, isnt you thinking of Jalen Ramsey?

  99. 99 D3FB said at 4:25 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yep. You’re right, I get those two confused. Haven’t done Darby yet, as he’s smaller and less talented than PJ Williams and has the same fleeing the scene of the crime questions over him.

  100. 100 GEAGLE said at 4:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Ramsey is the only one that interesst me

  101. 101 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    lets understand something now to eliminate alot of the stupidity down the line…

    the eagles dont give two craps who the most polished prospects are, which prospects can instantly help us.. that isnt even a concern for the eagles… when its time for the Eagles to make a draft pick, who is NFL ready wont matter, all they will care about is which player available has the ability that they can mold into the best player 3 years from now. All we care about is drafting the highest ceiling, with the charecter they can count on to put in the work to eventually realize their full potential and reach that ceiling whether it takes 2, 3 or 4 years…
    ..
    if the kid with the highest upside also happens to be NFL ready and can play next year, thats just a bonus, but typically HIGH UPSIDE GUYS who are also CANT MISS NFL ready are typically the ELITE prospects which you typically arent finding in the 20’s… so by nature, the type of prospects we look for, probably wont translate to the NFL instantly at a high percentage especially since we have talent on the roster… expect Less Bennie Logans, and Jordan Mathews, and more Marcus Smith and Jaylen Watkins types who need a red shirt year before they start to pay dividends..

    as long as we pick in the 20’s, the highest upside guys are typically going to be raw and not ready to produce as rookies, but thats fine as long as you trust the player development ability of your coaches, especially since we wont even take a kid with lazy questionable charecter, the players chip drafts dont want rap labels on the side, these are “ALL BALL” guys who live for the game. they may not be able to help next year, but 3 years down the road, our guys should be better than a handful of players that were polished drafted ahead of them…

    we arent going to see many rookies on the field in september, and thats ok… maybe we shouldnt add to the collective stupidy the young men we draft have to experience in this delusional fanbase, whores to instant gratification…because the eagles look at things differently, and since we dont have the power to change it, no point to scream and stop our feet about it..
    ..
    you arent getting next years rookie of the year, but hopefully we get players that down the road should have been drafted much higher than where we got them

  102. 102 BobSmith77 said at 5:56 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    This entire assertion of yours is based almost solely because of the Smith III pick last year and there is nothing you have supplied that demonstrates/shows that other teams behave in a similar manner with regard to their 1st round picks.

    Still think that is a lot more likely the Eagles thought one of the OL they wanted was going to drop to where they were drafting, it didn’t happen, and they couldn’t make a deal to drop back a few spots further & got caught with their pants down with the Smith III selection.

    If the Eagles draft another project guy this year in the 1st round who is 2 years away from even starting, then yeah the fans/sportswriters will rip them and rightfully so.

    This team is generally built to win next year and it makes little/no sense for Kelly to take another ‘project’ guy.

  103. 103 GEAGLE said at 8:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yeah as if Lane Wasnt raw as it gets lol just so happens him playong faster then we thought has skewed Eagle fan expectations and made them dumber… Lol how quickly your or got about Lane!!! Lol but yeah I’m just basing it of marcus, as if chip hasnt talked about it ad nauseum LOL

  104. 104 BobSmith77 said at 8:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Lane was drafted to start immediately and was projected into the RT spot on Day 1 in training camp. He has nothing in common with Marcus Smith or your overall point about be prepared to wait up to 3 years for a 1st round pick to really produce.

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 2:38 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Kam Chancellor said to have played with slight MCL tear..LOB falling apart, all those physical battles vs. san fran, and playing late into january a bunch of years in a row could have worn that team down…

  106. 106 anon said at 2:40 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    still a SB quality team even with injuries. But they do play very physically.

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 2:45 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    curious to see the effects the meltdown has on their psych and locker room… do they still trust their coach? lot of angry vocal players throwing people under the bus after the loss, the loss seemed to pull at their “family thread”… certain players getting paid will force them to lose some important players, going forward how many more years can these guys play 19 game seasons?… im sure the cardinals smell some blood in the water, and will go hard at seattle.. the Rams are a shitty opponent to have to play twice a year lol.,…

    i wonder if seattle will have to really revamp the majority of the team around wilson, before it can ever go so deep in the playoffs again…

  108. 108 Ark87 said at 3:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    It will either tear them apart or galvanize them.

    Dear Seahawks front office,

    you may want to do a few player-appreciation days and contracts to the respected veterans…in other words, don’t pull a Joe Banner. Yes by the book Running backs don’t have much value and production is more about investing in your o-line than your RB, and maybe you’re right, maybe you will have to pay Marshawn Lynch more than his production is worth. But trust me, you want to pay him or watch that lockeroom melt down.

    You’re Welcome

  109. 109 GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    carroll said they have been in negotiations with Lynch for a while, and i hear he will be the highest paid RB, which is what they have to do, but it will also cause them to lose some other players because they have to pay wilson and Sweezy and maybe maxwell, and if they do lose Maxwell and want to go to SB next year they better sign another corner instead of assuming tharold simon is ready to play at the level Maxwell gave them

    i have a feeling that seattle will never get back to the superbowl until it looks like a very different team… thinking injuries start to pile up, which is bad for a team that will probably lose depth having to pay some key players, and arizona and the rams will get tougher

  110. 110 A_T_G said at 6:00 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    What the…? What’s next? You going to explain to Dallas that depth and stability is as important as star power? Tell the ‘Skins to build through the draft? Tell the Giants to get ODB on the field?

    Sheesh. How hard is this? Here, watch:

    BOY, I BET THAT SEATTLE FRONT OFFICE GETS SUCKERED INTO OVERPAYING FOR LYNCH NOW. NO WAY DO THEY HAVE THE DISCIPLINE TO TELL HIM TO TAKE A HIKE. THEY ARENT SMART ENOUGH FOR THAT.

  111. 111 Ark87 said at 6:25 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    don’t listen to the rambling of a blathering fool like me! Remember your analytics, watch Moneyball again! Yes! Brad Pitt wouldn’t lead you astray!

  112. 112 A_T_G said at 6:40 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    That’s better. I swear, sometimes you act like you don’t even know that opposing teams’ fan blog comments sections are exactly what these guys are talking about when they say “research” and “analysis” and “thought.”

  113. 113 wee2424 said at 4:24 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Funny, sort of reminding me of the 49ers right now.

  114. 114 GermanEagle said at 2:54 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Just listening to Snoop at the gym and remembered the signing day tomorrow. So which college will his son choose?

  115. 115 ACViking said at 3:06 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    GE:

    I’ve not followed this story at all.

    Are we talking about football or basketball?

    What’s the kid’s name? (“snoop pup” is not the right answer)

    High school?

    Position?

  116. 116 GermanEagle said at 3:08 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    WR. Broadus Jr.

    Apparently ranked no. 15 of all HS WRs.

  117. 117 ACViking said at 3:10 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    i’m guessing he’s out in LA.

    will go check.

    thx

  118. 118 GermanEagle said at 3:11 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yeah, my guess he’s picking UCLA or Notre Dame.

  119. 119 ACViking said at 3:13 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Have you ever been to the UCLA campus?

    Not sure how any kid, with the chance to get a free ride in Westwood, turns them down.

    A#1.

    (need Baloophi and LAEagle to comment, too)

  120. 120 GermanEagle said at 3:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Nope. Have only been at the TT campus when I studied there.

  121. 121 ACViking said at 3:20 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    If you’re ever in LA, and have the chance, visit the UCLA campus.

    A really killer sculpture garden.

    Beautiful grounds.

    Lots of history, particularly B-ball.

    And a great view.

    (edited.)

  122. 122 deshawnbentley said at 7:29 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    as a current student at ucla the campus and neighboring areas is why I chose ucla over uci and ucb.

  123. 123 ACViking said at 9:25 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    What year are you?

    Cal native?

  124. 124 deshawnbentley said at 1:47 AM on February 11th, 2015:

    2017 and yeah born and raised Pasadena,CA

  125. 125 ACViking said at 3:10 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    here’s his ESPN write up

    LV, NV — national power Bishop Gorman (played with Randall III last year).

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/172498/cordell-broadus

  126. 126 GEAGLE said at 3:08 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    “scrappy doo” puppy power

  127. 127 BobSmith77 said at 5:18 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Thought the maize and blue had the inside line on him once Harbaugh became their coach.

  128. 128 P_P_K said at 7:59 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Obviously someplace in Colorado so when Dad comes to visit he’ll be street legal.

  129. 129 GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    its been Confirmed that it was Ryan Grigson who asked the NFL to check the patriots football because they were tampering with them….

  130. 130 Patrick said at 4:38 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Still doesn’t change the fact that it was an absolutely horrible playcall. I understand the arguments: personel wasn’t right for a run, situation wasn’t perfect, Lynch hasn’t been effective at goal line rushes etc.

    Still, sometimes football is simple. The correct answer was simple and Bevell should just admit that instead of crucifying his own players. He fucked up, plain and simple. Its a really disappointing way of handling the situation in my opinion.

  131. 131 GEAGLE said at 4:50 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    oh i certainly dont condone anything about that play call…
    ..
    bevel is def embarrassing himself.. funny he should have jumped at a headcoaching job because he went from hot offensive mind to untouchable. after that Boneheaded ending of a superbowl how can an owner sell him as a headcoach to his fanbase lol

  132. 132 Patrick said at 4:59 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yeah I read that again, it wasn’t meant to be an attack on you, it was meant as Bevell being a complete dick. My bad homie!

    He has a slight point that the route wasn’t as crisp as you would like and I would personally also say that Lockette could have attacked the ball in the air more and been a little violent when he saw was Butler in a position to make play.

    Still, the most major of complete fuckups was that horrible bloody call not to pound the rock with Skittles and repeat. And what does Bevell do, he shifts the fucking blame like nothing happened. I agree, he won’t get hired as a HC in my fictional franchise. Holy shit, talk about being delusional and a total trainwreck as a leader. Not sure I could ever hire a guy like that to be THE guy for my franchise.

  133. 133 GEAGLE said at 8:09 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    No worries… Agreed

  134. 134 GENETiC-FREAK said at 3:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    More coaching moves

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/2/3/7972379/eagles-alabama-director-football-operations-joe-pannunzio

  135. 135 Greg Richards said at 3:22 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I think this will be for some front office job, not as a coach. Older guy, 55.

  136. 136 GENETiC-FREAK said at 3:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Might be the one to replace Marnowitz old position

  137. 137 Greg Richards said at 5:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Guy seems questionable to me:

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2011/08/link_alabamas_joe_pannunzio_wa.html

  138. 138 Media Mike said at 5:41 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I just read through the comments thread. It looks like there was some personal power struggle nonsense about who was boys with who in the school’s administration.

  139. 139 Greg Richards said at 6:14 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    So….perfect fit for the Eagles!

  140. 140 GEAGLE said at 4:05 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    am i crazy? or am i right that there is no chance we will consider Landon Collins? how are local people who have some clue about our scheme mocking him to us? if a corner cant play man to man, how can they think the eagles will want him in round 1? Landon Collins was the top safety, but he was a “Pigeon” in coverage that a couple teams really picked on and exposed in coverage and we are talking about the college game. im struggling to understand how anyone could mock him to us? what am I missing?? im damn sure not missing the fact that Cardel Jones TRUCKED HIM in the bowl game

    i get it the Eagles need a safety and he is the top rated safety prospect, but can local coverage be this bad, or am i clearly missing something? Alabama DBs suck in NFL coverage as it is, but this kid isnt even good in coverage on the college level and we have no use for strong Safeties, how can anyone think he will be an eagle?
    ..
    am i missing something, or is local draft coverage that bad? i can understand atleast when National media mopes mock Collins to us, but how is it that every single year locally we spend months talking about players we have no real intrerest in? this year its Landon, two years ago it was alabama bum Dee Milner and geno smith SMH… the top safety is a horrible scheme fit is a nightmare for local coverage the next few months smh..atleast Marynowitz will know someone in alabama that will tell him the truth “kid cant cover to save his life”

  141. 141 wee2424 said at 4:20 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Birds wont be interested. Your right, doesnt fit scheme. For him to succeed in NFL he would have to be around good coverage guys. Just like Chancelor. You take away some of that star studded cast Seattle has in the secondary and it would force him to play deeper and more in coverage where he would be exposed. Collins is a peice to add, not a peice to build around.

  142. 142 GEAGLE said at 4:42 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    agreed…can be a nice player but clearly not what we are looking for…. rather sign Da’Norris Searcy and next year draft Jaylen Ramsey

  143. 143 wee2424 said at 6:19 AM on February 5th, 2015:

    Dont know anything about Ramsey. Is he a higher pick, or more of a later round pick that would grow behind Searcy and Jenkins?

  144. 144 EaglesFan1 said at 4:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Couldn’t agree more. Thats why I could see Drummond from MSU being drafted by us. From what I’ve heard he’s played lots of man to man.

  145. 145 GEAGLE said at 4:39 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    anthony harris from Virginia… then again i expect to sign Searcy and not draft any safeties til we figure out what we have in reynolds, wolff, watkins Couplin… Jenkins, searcy, Maragos, see if one or two of the young safeties can earn a roster spot, if not we draft a young safety next year… i like Drummond and Anthony Harris, but i could see us not drafting a safety at all because we paid for Searcy

  146. 146 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 4:39 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I been arguing with Eagles fan about Collins for quite some time. I agree totally with your sentiment there that yes he is the top rated safety but in no way fits our scheme and how we want to have “mirror safeties” that can cover. I look at it as most fans have a general to mediocre knowledge of college sports and follow and believe a lot of the things these “analyst” say. My statement is no knock on Collins but more of a knock on most fans not having the full knowledge of a lot of these players. Now as far as coverage safeties go there is no need to spend a very high draft pick on one. A couple of names that fans should be looking at are as follows.
    Gerod Holliman – Louisville
    Jalen Mills – LSU
    Kurtis Drummond – Michigan State
    Derron Smith – Fresno State
    Cody Prewitt – Ole Miss.
    Just a few names off the top of my head.

  147. 147 GEAGLE said at 4:41 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    jalen Mills, Anthony Harris, Drummond….. but probably signing searcy and not having to draft a safety this year is where im leaning
    ,,
    collins can be an awesome safety, but not i our scheme. he is more like Mark Barron who was traded and we had no interest in…

    if the safety doesnt resemble malcolm Jenkins, he wont be on our draft board

  148. 148 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 4:44 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yea I forgot about Harris from Virginia. Oh don’t get me wrong I am all about addressing that in free agency and not spend the pick on a safety, that is the ideal situation. Wouldn’t mind Searcy at all. I was just throwing some knowledge and names out there for some fans that don’t follow college as much as others just to get a general idea of who could be options.

  149. 149 GEAGLE said at 4:47 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    i gotcha.. def important for eagles to do their homework on safety prospects if searcy chooses not to sign with us..
    ..
    ideally sign him, dont draft any safeties this year, find out what we have in our young safeties and if they all suck draft Jaylen Ramsey next year, i like him better than any safety in this draft class

  150. 150 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 4:53 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Definitely like Ramsey, hell I even like the other FSU safety Nate Andrews next year. Tony Connor from Ole Miss, can play safety and corner.

  151. 151 GEAGLE said at 4:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    ramsey might be my fav safety prospect since Kenny Vaccarro, cyprien… really high on that kids future

  152. 152 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 4:59 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Yea I like his game. One name to keep in mind is Jamal Golden from Georgia Tech.

  153. 153 Insomniac said at 4:50 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Prewitt – sheep in wolfs clothing
    Holliman – I think a pine cone can stop someone better than he can

    I’d pass on them in a heartbeat,

  154. 154 GEAGLE said at 4:51 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    dont worry about hollimans tackling, you have seen these coaches turn terrible tacklers into solid tacklers in two years since taking over the historically bad defenses mess juan and washburn created

  155. 155 Insomniac said at 4:53 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Nate wasn’t as bad as Holliman. Holliman is worse than Asante at tackling.

  156. 156 GEAGLE said at 4:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    not exactly rocket science to learn how to tacke.. heck we improve on tackling without even tackling at camp,

  157. 157 Insomniac said at 5:05 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    True but it doesn’t seem like he even cares. Go watch him play, there’s like no effort.

  158. 158 GEAGLE said at 5:27 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    ill make sure to keep it in mind when i get to him…
    ,,
    DBs and WRs i try to wait til after the combine before i give a closer look

  159. 159 KAJomo said at 10:15 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Its no but you have to show a willingness to try and tackle. Holliman has no interest in getting involved in a tackle. He is so soft I want no part of him

  160. 160 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 4:55 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    And Holliman is a pure coverage/ball hawking safety, and was better then Allen in college. Prewitt fell off big time this year.

  161. 161 GEAGLE said at 4:58 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    yeah i expected big year out of prewitt, regressed like ed reynolds did last year.. maybe not regress just fell off in terms of playmaking…

  162. 162 Hinkle McCringleberry from Pen said at 5:00 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    agreed

  163. 163 D3FB said at 10:04 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Jalen Mills punched a woman in the mouth last summer.

    Cross him off our draft board.

  164. 164 Media Mike said at 5:28 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I hope Collins goes long before we pick.

  165. 165 GEAGLE said at 5:29 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    yeah i hope a bunch of kids who wont be on our draft board like Collins go in the top 19

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 5:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    How about these kids!

    Round 1 Pick 20: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Marcus Peters, CB, Washington (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A)
    Round 4 Pick 20: Jordan Richards, SS, Stanford (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Taiwan Jones, ILB, Michigan State (B)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Tyrus Thompson, OT, Oklahoma (C+)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Derrick Malone Jr., OLB, Oregon (B+)

  167. 167 GEAGLE said at 5:36 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    shelton is one of the few players i even want… if shelton or Dupree dont unexpectedly fall to 20, TRADE BACK
    ..
    ill be pissed if Shelton becomes a Giant

  168. 168 Media Mike said at 5:38 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Shelton 100% strikes me as the type of guy who won’t last long enough for us to draft.

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 5:40 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    yeah man… 340lbers with his type of explosion typically dont make it past #15… i think he is more special than Star Latululie was and its not even that close, and i liked star

  170. 170 Media Mike said at 5:44 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. If you keep up that talk, he’ll probably wind up on the Rams. They might not feel their D-line is good enough.

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 5:49 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    lol right… greedy bastards get all the monsters… Aaron Donald had a nice year

  172. 172 Bleedgreen said at 7:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    As much as I don’t want Collins, I hope this unconfirmed report of the Eagles signing the director of football ops from Bama doesn’t have an influence on drafting Collins.

  173. 173 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:12 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    WTF his daughter lol Patriot style

  174. 174 GermanEagle said at 5:15 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Igitt

  175. 175 anon said at 5:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    well now we know the secret

  176. 176 GermanEagle said at 5:18 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    That’s just gross. I am afraid this post will not be the end. Lol

  177. 177 ShadyCrockett said at 6:18 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Anyone else find it ironic that “Genetic Freak” posted this?

  178. 178 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:21 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    hahaha no no no.. Im a Freak on the field n in the Gym.. Ya sick basket lol

  179. 179 GermanEagle said at 6:31 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Haha

  180. 180 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:19 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Eyes closed in everything.. Even the guy behind them thinking WTF haha

  181. 181 BobSmith77 said at 5:34 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I just don’t get all of the Brady backlash this week including the stupid continued talk about ‘Deflategate.’

    Literally the only thing you can really criticize him for is leaving Bridget Moynahan while she was pregnant and even then he has gone out of his way to have an incredibly close relationship with his son (he was the kid that Brady was giving a piggy back ride on the field after the SB game).

    Glad the Pats won on Sunday and Brady won the MVP.

  182. 182 GEAGLE said at 5:35 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    ok….

  183. 183 BobSmith77 said at 5:39 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Just surprised that their is still talk of ‘Deflategate’ still and general ‘ok great we have to see/hear Brady this week.’

  184. 184 RobNE said at 6:41 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    We hate anyone that wins more than us. Doesn’t matter that he is such a great guy he has a relationship with his son.

  185. 185 P_P_K said at 7:56 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Aphorism #2 in the Eagles Fan Handbook.
    Aphorism #1 is obvious: Dallas Sucks.

  186. 186 BobSmith77 said at 8:32 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Generally.

  187. 187 GEAGLE said at 5:34 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Tom is right when he says our Guards desired weight would be 305lbs, but with smaller Kelce, athletic Tackles and mathis, i wouldnt mind sacraficing a bit of athleticism to geta Big Body 315-320Lbs next to Kelce, let the big boy line up next to uber athletic Lane…
    ..
    doesnt have to be a starter, but add atleast 1 guard with some girth. dont like getting pushed around, bad enough we never use a fullback.. get some girth on the bench

  188. 188 Media Mike said at 5:39 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Occasions where our interior O-line get themselves shoved into the backfield are very annoying.

  189. 189 GEAGLE said at 5:41 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    there is nothing more emasculating..i cant take seeing it happen,

  190. 190 Insomniac said at 7:59 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Scherff or Collins would be better OGs than Zach Martin. Too bad we probably won’t take them.

  191. 191 GEAGLE said at 8:07 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    No way Sherff falls to 20. I Will be pissed if the skins draft him but I hope he is drafted before the Giants can grab him

  192. 192 Insomniac said at 8:17 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Maybe they’ll take Clemmings and uhh Peat instead.

  193. 193 bill said at 5:45 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    I was saying this before. Between Kelce and Johnson, I think you can get away with a physical guy with some athleticism as opposed to an athletic guy with some physicality. Would help cover some of Kelce’s inherent weakness against more physical DTs.

  194. 194 GEAGLE said at 5:47 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    yup.. as long as one of the Guards are athletic we should be able to get away with a mauler type,..

  195. 195 ICDogg said at 11:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Keep in mind that whoever this guy is is going to have to play at full no-huddle hurry-up pace for extended periods. If he can’t do that there’s no point in having him.

  196. 196 GEAGLE said at 5:44 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    tell cleveland to give us both 1st rounders, a 3rd this year, a 2nd and a 4th Next year and they can have Foles lol and while those fuckersd are at it tell them to give back christian kirksey that they stole from me, i scouted him, i was right about him,,give him back!!! lol… if not they are welcome to take their chances with the rehab publicity stunt, idiots made it so hoyer probably wont even take their call, and i doubt the Jets will let the Browns get the QB that the Bucs dont draft

  197. 197 anon said at 5:49 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    you know they have two firsts again this year? manziel was a stunt to sell tickets — which worked. i doubt they thought either qb would be that bad, but they didn’t give anything up to get him.

  198. 198 GEAGLE said at 5:50 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    yeah thats why i said id trade them foles for both 1st rounders 🙂
    i dont want to lose Foles, but everything has a price and those two first rounders and christian kirksey would be a great start to get my attention lol

  199. 199 GermanEagle said at 6:30 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Hear hear

  200. 200 ICDogg said at 9:00 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Clemmings has the right hair for the job.
    http://draftbreakdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/tjclemmings.jpeg

  201. 201 Mitchell said at 9:03 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    We are still missing someone with dreads on this team, that and a Samoan.

  202. 202 Greg Richards said at 9:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Titans hired Dick LeBeau as asst HC/defense. They basically demoted Ray Horton(the DC) without demoting him(he didn’t get the Roseman “promotion/pay increase” special). For those inclined to bitch that the Eagles should have grabbed him, it wasn’t happening. He’s going to TEN because coaches he knew from Pittsburgh(Whisenhunt and Horton) are there and it’s close to Cincinatti where his wife lives.

  203. 203 ICDogg said at 11:37 PM on February 3rd, 2015:

    Sixers just don’t know how to tank properly

    http://www.nocaptionneeded.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Upside-Down-Tank-Art.png

  204. 204 Avery Greene said at 8:52 AM on February 4th, 2015:

    I love the improvement I’m seeing out of the team this year.

  205. 205 oreofestar said at 8:57 AM on February 4th, 2015:

    I know it’s quite annoying I’ve been sounding off on LB about it 😛

  206. 206 RobNE said at 9:11 AM on February 4th, 2015:

    it’s bothering me how much they are winning.

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  208. 208 Eagles News: Chris Christie is going to stop badmouthing Philly fans | Sports Feedr said at 6:51 AM on February 4th, 2015:

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