QB Intrigue Continues

Posted: February 16th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 369 Comments »

The problem with picking 20th in the draft is that you are at the mercy of those picking ahead of you. While some writers and draft analysts make a case for Marcus Mariota falling, that seems less likely with every day that goes by. I wouldn’t even bet a half-full can of lukewarm PBR that he gets anywhere close to pick 20 at this point.

I wrote about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the first QB domino to fall in my PE.com column.

You have 32 teams making plans. You also have 32 teams making moves. One move by one team can have an effect on many others and change all kinds of plans. That may have happened this week when Tampa Bay cut veteran quarterback Josh McCown. I’m sure plenty of fans thought “big deal” when they saw that news. But it actually could be a big deal.

The Bucs are now down to two quarterbacks, Mike Glennon and Seth Lobato. Until this very moment, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Lobato. Glennon has had some success as a starter, but hasn’t shown enough that you want to go into a season with him as “the guy.” The Buccaneers just happen to have the first pick in the draft. With McCown, it seemed likely that they would draft a quarterback. Without him, it is almost impossible to think they won’t.

The Bucs could be choosing Marcus Mariota or Jameis Winston first overall. I find it hard to believe that the Bucs would take Winston, with all of his off-field baggage. I think Mariota is going first overall. A lot of Eagles fans would love to see Mariota reunited with Chip Kelly. I’m sure Kelly would love that too. Even if the Bucs pull a shocker and take Winston first, there are several other teams that need a quarterback in the top 10.

Now comes this report.

Huh? Even if the Titans love Zach Mettenberger and want him to be the starter, they should be talking up the QBs so that teams will want to move up. Maybe they’re just being honest because they covet a defensive prospect like Leonard Williams or Randy Gregory, but I don’t know why you wouldn’t try to generate interest in your pick to help trade value. The way to do that is talk about QBs as a legitimate possibility.

And then I saw this interesting nugget about a Top 10 team…Jeff Fisher is letting Sam Bradford help pick out the offensive coaching staff. Kinda odd.

Many of us assumed Bradford would be cut. He can’t stay healthy. He’s been up and down for the Rams. Why not cut him and move on?

One possible take is that Fisher doesn’t think either QB is getting to pick 10. If Mariota goes #1 to Tampa, the Skins, Jets and Bears (teams 5-7) could still have interest in Winston. Fisher is hedging his bets and making nice with Bradford just in case. I still think Fisher would covet either of the top QBs.

No matter how you slice this, it doesn’t sound good for the Eagles.

If Mariota goes #1 (and I think he will), you have a tough decision on Winston. I don’t want anything to do with him. I doubt Jeff Lurie would either. Sure, the Eagles went after Mike Vick when he was at rock bottom, but he was also a bargain in terms of cost. The Eagles could cut him at a moment’s notice because they had nothing invested in him. Winston would cost a 1st round pick. He wouldn’t make huge money, but wouldn’t be cheap per se.

If Winston goes #1, you have a slew of Top 10 teams ready to take Mariota. I could even see the Giants considering him. Eli is in the final year of his contract and he’s not getting any younger.

I think it is important that Chip Kelly and Ed Marynowitz figure out other QB plans. Do they draft Brett Hundley? Or Bryce Petty? Or Garrett Grayson? Or do they take a flier on a small school guy like Brandon Bridge or Bryan Bennett?

The Eagles will talk to teams about potential deals in case Mariota does fall, but don’t get your hopes up. Look at other draft prospects. Or look at NFL guys. Do you bring back Mark Sanchez? Colt McCoy is an interesting name on the market. There is some talk that KC could cut Chase Daniel. He could be an interesting option.

You can also hope like heck that Nick Foles takes a big step forward. He’s hard working and has to be incredibly motivated by his mediocre play and then watching the final 8 games.

Just in case, someone make burnt offerings to the Football Gods. Better safe than sorry.

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369 Comments on “QB Intrigue Continues”

  1. 1 Tyler Phillips said at 7:26 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    Hope isn’t a plan. Doesn’t sound like something Kelly would count on too much.

  2. 2 Greg Richards said at 12:10 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    Any “plan” involves an element of hope.

  3. 3 Media Mike said at 12:24 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    Hope vs. Wish

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5osw5u9Uq4

  4. 4 Weapon Y said at 6:20 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    Would you rather have no plan or a horrible plan (like trading 5 first rounders to get Mariota)?

  5. 5 RobNE said at 7:50 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    Why would we give this rumor any credibility at all? I don’t.

  6. 6 TommyLawlor said at 8:01 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    Which rumor?

  7. 7 RobNE said at 8:12 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    The Titans rumor. The source article says “early indications…” Which turns into “Tampa not interested in qb’s”. That seems like a big jump. The source article is like someone’s theory. That gets turned into a definitive headline by the next writer.

  8. 8 TommyLawlor said at 8:04 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    The Bucs did cut McCown. The Titans GM came out and said publicly the team isn’t focused on QBs. And Fisher said publicly he did consult Bradford about the coaches.

    These things are real. We can interpret them different ways, but this isn’t rumors like “league sources say the Eagles like Jake Locker”. That’s a rumor.

  9. 9 RobNE said at 8:18 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    The titans source article the gm says “we have to do our diligence” on qb’s. he did not say we aren’t interested. Tommy I’m not trying to argue about the result bc we pick 20 not right behind the Titans. I just don’t think bgn is close to reporting correctly what the source article says.

  10. 10 anon said at 3:04 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/16/titans-g-m-talks-up-mettenberger-talks-down-a-qb-at-no-2/

  11. 11 Weapon Y said at 12:32 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    Titans sound like they’re bluffing. Why would they deny so much that they’re going after a QB? I bet they want Winston

  12. 12 RobNE said at 2:39 PM on February 16th, 2015:

    Read the article they don’t deny anything.

  13. 13 Media Mike said at 9:09 AM on February 16th, 2015:

    I’m very pumped up for free agency and the draft, but a MAJOR part of me wants the whole process to be done with a successfully avoiding adding a running QB so we can move on to planning more actual NFL football.