Saturday Combine – QB, RB, and WRs

Posted: February 21st, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 247 Comments »

Lots of great prospects to watch today.

I’ll post some thoughts this evening.

247 Comments on “Saturday Combine – QB, RB, and WRs”

1 GEAGLE said at 9:34 AM on February 21st, 2015:
sammie compared athletically/size to sammy watkins.. ran 4.45
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dorsett ran 4.35 on his first attempt and he even stumbled a bit
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funchess ran 4.7
2 Greg Richards said at 9:48 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Amari Cooper – 4.43
Nelson Agholor – 4.44
Chris Conley – 4.41(at 6-2, 213); second attempt – 4.35
Antwan Goodley – 4.46(He’s a guy I think Eagles may have interest in)
Rashad Greene – 4.47
Justin Hardy – 4.56
3 GEAGLE said at 9:50 AM on February 21st, 2015:
funchess ran a 4.7 twice… thats bad…might have to go TE route
4 Greg Richards said at 9:53 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I think it was known he’s more of a flex TE. I think he has a better chance to be drafted high at the TE position. 2nd round guy regardless.
5 anon said at 12:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
how were his hand drills?
6 GEAGLE said at 4:36 PM on February 21st, 2015:
funchess and DGB both showed solid hands for big boys. i was actually surprised with how good funchess hands looked in the drill
7 Insomniac said at 12:19 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Goodley and Huff (when he’s good) would be insane.
8 Greg Richards said at 9:41 AM on February 21st, 2015:
4.5 at 6-5, 237 pounds is insane. I think he may just be worth the risk. If there aren’t any character questions, this guy probably goes top 5. His issues are the only thing that makes me think Eagles may have a shot at him. If it blows up, Chip can just blame Howie.
9 GEAGLE said at 9:42 AM on February 21st, 2015:
amazing considering similar size funchess ran a 4.7
10 Media Mike said at 9:49 AM on February 21st, 2015:
If DGB gets some good returns from his quickness drills and pass catching in person; he isn’t lasting until 20.
11 Greg Richards said at 9:50 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Eagles can just spread a rumor that he ate a puppy.
12 GEAGLE said at 9:52 AM on February 21st, 2015:
4.49 2nd attempt
13 TommyLawlor said at 10:50 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I also wonder about DGB as a target. Might have so much upside that Kelly feels the risk is worth it.
14 GEAGLE said at 12:32 PM on February 21st, 2015:
thats certainly possible when we are talking this type of insane talent….. what we know for sure is 3 WRs will go ahead of him atleast, white, parker and Amari..
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anyone see a 4th WR that could push DGB down even further?
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Tom, all I ask is that if chip kelly isnt going to draft this kid, I pray he is gone before the eagles pick… because Chip passing on that kid could be the be the next Earl Thomas nightmare that we never hear the end of in this city… if he falls to 22, pray we take him, just because of how horrible it will be to pass on him and see him grow into the next monster
15 Greg Richards said at 9:43 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Notable QB times:
Hundley 4.63(same as Manziel)
Brandon Bridge 4.72
Bryan Bennett 4.81
Mariota hasn’t run yet but some think he may break 4.5.
16 GermanEagle said at 10:00 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Guys, where can i watch the Combine on the net? I do not have a NFL network subscription. Thanks.
17 Insomniac said at 10:13 AM on February 21st, 2015:
nfl.com/combine
18 bentheimmigrant said at 11:11 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Outside the US, that tries to get you to subscribe to NFL Gamepass.
19 GermanEagle said at 12:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
No, that doesn’t work. It asks me to sign it with my TV provider before saying that I don’t have a nfl network subscription with RCN.
I live in the US…
20 Insomniac said at 12:59 PM on February 21st, 2015:
if you’re on your phone it might do that.
direct link
http://www.nfl.com/combine/live?module=HP11_traffic_driver
21 GEAGLE said at 10:13 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Looks like C2J’s speed record will be safe for another year…
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i want to know when the combine will join the current times? put the silly stop watches down and lets start measuring these kids using all the “Espn Sports science show” measurement techniques… they measure everything, time, force, balance of weight in your body that shows efficient proper technique…. ESPN has all this awesome equipment that can take us in depth to breakdown these draft athletes, yet the nfl is still using stop watches? at some point we will have to start using new technology available to us
22 Insomniac said at 10:14 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Chris Conley, going to need to watch some breakdowns on him.
23 Javi Echie said at 10:17 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I was thinking the same thing. He has good measurables and ran a good forty. Has me very intrigued.
24 Insomniac said at 10:23 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I was more encouraged from his draft profile. The 40 time might be an added bonus if he could play like that in pads.
25 Insomniac said at 10:19 AM on February 21st, 2015:
DGB has tiny hands for a guy his size. Antwan Goodley has bigger hands than DGB, Wow,
26 GEAGLE said at 10:26 AM on February 21st, 2015:
he just showed some solid hands on the drill
27 Insomniac said at 10:29 AM on February 21st, 2015:
His hands were never a problem. I just found it odd that he has small hands.
28 GEAGLE said at 10:33 AM on February 21st, 2015:
the only real negative is he is pretty darn raw. Kid has alot to learn. He might be able to make big plays as a rookie just off of natural ability, but he is raw to where if you are going to draft that kid, you should probably have two veteran WRs ahead of him his rookie year. Cant go into his rookie year counting on him holding down #2 duty all year… so for us, it would work because we have Coop for one more year, so we can avoid having to put too much on his plate too soon….. doubt Baalke lets him get past the niners…
29 Insomniac said at 10:37 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Yup. Everyone saw what Evans/Benjamin did. DGB is better than both of those guys.
30 GEAGLE said at 10:40 AM on February 21st, 2015:
i can live with him not falling to us, which may be better so we arent stuck hating chip kelly when he passes on him…. but what I cant live with is fat andy drafting him… out of all the years andy deprived us of WRs, if he drafts this kid in round 1, i will be furious…. thankfully the Giants pick too high… last thing we need is ODB/DGB tandem on the Giants for the next decade
31 Insomniac said at 10:44 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I can see Jerry picking him if he slides past us.
32 GEAGLE said at 12:27 PM on February 21st, 2015:
definitely.. he screams Jerry Jones player
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the one thing we know for certain, is that atleast 3 WRs will be drafted ahead of him. White, Parker and Cooper, with the Raiders taking the first 1 which will either be white or Parker… Vikings will take Cooper, because he was Bridegewaters high school WR…
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cleveland is going to have to add a WR if they arent spending a pick on the QB
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wonder if DGB will be the 4th WR drafted or if someone else will push him down the WR rankings?
33 Anders said at 12:45 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Calvin Johnson got 9″1/4 hands for comparision
34 GEAGLE said at 10:21 AM on February 21st, 2015:
I like that Chip kelly forms his own opinions instead of just following the ol Boys club… would be fascinated to know what goes thru his mind when he is watching all these kids, and I would really love to know how he ranks them compared to the consensus opinion.. for example he said that last year he had ODB as the #1 WR. Everyone was high on the kid, but most people put Evans and Sammy ahead of him.. I like that chip isnt afraid to buck the consensus evaluations and think for himself…. So watching the combine, we allhave a idea on the consensus rankings of these kids, but I cant help to wonder how different Chips evaluations are from the accepted consensus opinion brainwashed into our brains by Kiper and the media? would love to know who chip views as the best that goes against the consensus rankings??
35 GEAGLE said at 10:25 AM on February 21st, 2015:
yaaaawn…. lets get the show started, im bored, take me to the main event aka DEVIN SMITH watch the kid fly….. best possible deep ball replacement to desean we could ever hope to find, but unlike Desean, he has some decent size. Cant wait to see the buckeye run…
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devin smith this year, Zeke as our RB next year….
36 Javi Echie said at 11:53 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Only problem with Smith is that he has no route running skills whatsoever, he really only ran seam routes at OSU. I like the kid but have a hard time convincing myself of taking such a raw receiver that high.
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As for Zeke Elliot oh man I’m drooling at thinking of him as our rb next year lol
37 GEAGLE said at 12:22 PM on February 21st, 2015:
we could have said the same things about Mike Evans, who ran like 3 routes the entire time playing with Johnny Football
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i love him as a 2nd round option… but if he goes round 1, i would pass
38 Javi Echie said at 12:24 PM on February 21st, 2015:
His underwhelming 40 just now may drop him out of the 1st
39 GEAGLE said at 12:34 PM on February 21st, 2015:
gotta see his second attempt, hopefully its similar to the 1st. hate when there is a big discrepancy,
40 Insomniac said at 12:35 PM on February 21st, 2015:
4.46 i think
41 GEAGLE said at 12:38 PM on February 21st, 2015:
what i hate is watch, he will be a kid who we “hear” puts up drastically better numbers at his pro day(allegedly)
42 Rockedupeaglesfan said at 3:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
He has decent size(ODB like), but he is blocking averse. I think his game speed shows the type deep threat he is, despite his time today. Not sure if his game and attitude fit with Chip.
43 GEAGLE said at 10:28 AM on February 21st, 2015:
like the way Mario Alford moves, kid is smooth but he also turns on the Jets and flys
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Coates was solid on the hands drill… he just looks like a beast
44 anon said at 11:50 AM on February 21st, 2015:
need that red zone threat.
45 Insomniac said at 10:57 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Jaelon Strong with the 42 inch vertical.
46 GEAGLE said at 12:23 PM on February 21st, 2015:
really like that kid.. plays tough
47 anon said at 11:35 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Did WRs already go through drills?
48 mksp said at 11:57 AM on February 21st, 2015:
Chip wants MM so bad….
6’4 222 with 4.52 speed. Unreal.
49 anon said at 11:57 AM on February 21st, 2015:
hahah
50 mksp said at 12:10 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Have thought Devin Smith was overrated all year. 4.47 not a good look for him.
51 Insomniac said at 12:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
This years De’Anthony Thomas
52 mksp said at 12:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Holy shit Kevin White
53 Insomniac said at 12:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
DAMNNNN
54 anon said at 12:16 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yea that’s crazy
55 mksp said at 12:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Welcome to the Raiders kid.
56 Anders said at 12:35 PM on February 21st, 2015:
So Kevin White ran the same forty as Desean and White is 37 pounds heavier.
The two most impressive is still Waller and DGB, both ran sub 4.5 at almost 240
57 Insomniac said at 12:36 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Desean plays at a faster pace on the field.
58 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 4:33 PM on February 21st, 2015:
all he can do is run goes tho. I was always impressed with how Maclin can cut and still maintain near top speed.
59 mksp said at 12:37 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Kevin White is one of those guys that at the beginning of the season was a 2nd round guy, then you watch one game and just know he’s gonna end up being top-10 as the process plays out. Now maybe top-5.
Insane ball skills, great hands, 4.35 at his size….best WR in the draft pretty easily.
60 ACViking said at 12:47 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Titans have a big decision.
Depending on how Leonard Williams does, the choice may be White v. Williams v. Mariotta/Winston.
Or trade down to Cleveland for both their 1st rd picks (and a 2nd) — so Cleveland can get a WR in White.
61 ACViking said at 12:38 PM on February 21st, 2015:
No.
Impressive was Calvin Johnson.
4.35 at 6’5″ 239lbs
62 Anders said at 12:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
4.46 at 238 is impressive. Johnson at 4.35 is just out of this world inhumanly insane
63 ACViking said at 12:44 PM on February 21st, 2015:
No argument there.
Other worldly for sure
64 anon said at 12:28 PM on February 21st, 2015:
not seeing chipper w the scouts this year, think he trusts the process more?
65 Insomniac said at 12:30 PM on February 21st, 2015:
He probably told all of the scouts to figure out how we could sabotage Kevin White’s draft stock enough to get him down to our pick.
66 GEAGLE said at 12:37 PM on February 21st, 2015:
breaking News.. Eagles just agreed to a deal trading Matt Barkley to the Raiders for the #4th pick (kevin white).. E-true Hollywood story
67 Insomniac said at 12:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Kevin White
DGB
Cooper
Strong
Parker
68 Mitchell said at 12:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Strong has really impressed me today. I would seriously, seriously consider him at 20. That 4.44 speed? I thought he was gonna run high 4s low 5s. Very impressive.
69 GEAGLE said at 12:47 PM on February 21st, 2015:
im hoping he doesnt move into the #4 WR spot behind Parker,White and Coop… Then again I dont want DGB to be the #4 WR either lol
70 Mitchell said at 12:51 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I think he is right there with Parker and Cooper. White is the best but there is a 3 way tie for second. It comes down to what a team is looking for. Imo.
71 GEAGLE said at 12:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
im not sure White is a total lock to go 1st, ESPECIALLY when the Raiders will probably be the team that makes that decision. I know what White did today, and think he would be a great 4th pick, but i wouldnt the least bit be surprised to see the Raiders take Parker instead. I think Parker is every bit as fantastic as White.. Today Matters, but it isnt the entire puzzle… maybe if a different franchise was making the decision i could see white as more of a lock, but with the Raiders picking, i wont be the least bit surprised to see them go Parker over White.. and truth is it wont be some travesty if they do.
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whats funny is scouts went into the combine with “concerns over his top end speed”.. think White shut that down today lol
72 Mitchell said at 1:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Sure did. Seeing Strong today, I would love love love to have him in the first. We are gonna get a good player whoever we pick. So stoked.
73 GEAGLE said at 1:37 PM on February 21st, 2015:
there seems like we will get to draft a true first round grade which is awesome, not sure what position tho… could easily be something not so popular like Arik Armstead falling to 20, or an OL….. still havent seen chip spend a first round pick on a position outside of the trenches, but cant be mad if he continues on that path as long as we are getting a true first round grade, Ill be happy…
74 D3FB said at 12:01 AM on February 22nd, 2015:
His best comp is Jordan Matthews with better aerial ability. Similar size, both are as fast as they need to be.
75 Mitchell said at 9:41 AM on February 22nd, 2015:
The question is, does Chop want another physical route runner or a burner. I think Strong gives us the best receiver stable in the NFL hands down.
76 GEAGLE said at 12:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
wonder which kid Derick Carr pushes for? must be nice to be a young QB of a team with the 4th pick sitting back and watching todays WR combine, just drooling at the possibilities. Assumed Devante Parker would be the first pick, Cooper reunbiting with Bridgewater at the Viking, and White coming off the board somewhere in 10-15 range, but White certainly has staken his claim today, giving Parker a run for his money as the first WR off the board. You look at Kevin White, and he looks like a mini, more explosive Vernon Davis
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curious to see which kid the Raiders go with, and where the other player will land?
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is there a chance that after those 3 WRs, there will be another WR or two that come off the board before DGB?
77 Anders said at 12:49 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Parker, White, Cooper, Strong (any in any order), then I think DGB and then its between Coates and Perriman after that
78 GEAGLE said at 12:50 PM on February 21st, 2015:
nooooooooooo. not strong! lol i dont want him to be the 4th lol
79 Anders said at 12:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
With that speed and his ability to win jump balls, he will be 4th WR at worst
80 GEAGLE said at 12:58 PM on February 21st, 2015:
nooooooooooooo. thats my dude. im going to be a brat about it and refuse to believe or acknowledge it 🙂
81 ACViking said at 12:50 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Besides White, is there another WR with his size/speed, production and willingness to block worthy of Top 10?
82 shah8 said at 1:40 PM on February 21st, 2015:
The GT WR is getting some notice for lower rounds…
83 Insomniac said at 1:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Waller? He looked pretty bad in the Shrine game.
84 Anders said at 12:48 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Hundley measurables: 6'3 1/4" 226 lbs. 10.5" hand 4.63u (40) 36" vert 10' broad 3.98 shutt. 6.93 3cone— Adam Caplan (@caplannfl) 21. februar 2015
Hundley is a freak at the QB position. Only his forty is “bad”.
His shuttle is one of the best and the 3 cone is very good.
85 anon said at 12:53 PM on February 21st, 2015:
big hands
86 mksp said at 12:53 PM on February 21st, 2015:
For his size his 40 is anything but bad, especially for a QB. He’s just not a freak like Mariota.
87 Anders said at 12:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
4.63 is still “disappointing”, I know it is isnt bad, but there was expectations he could run 4.5-4.55
88 GermanEagle said at 12:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I did expect that actually. Remember when a poster here suggested that Hundley had a better straight line speed than MM. No chance. Mate.
89 Anders said at 12:57 PM on February 21st, 2015:
haha yea, that was Sha8.
Hundley did have better agility than Mariota, but I expected that.
One can argue that the SS and 3C is more important for a mobile QB than straight line speed
90 shah8 said at 1:32 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Eeehhh, have to go by tape. Even so, had I not seen the college clips of Hundley, this would have been the number I expected.
Here’s the thing, though. Compare Mariota’s rushing tape with Kaepernick’s college tape, who’s supposed to be slower…
I got the way I did, because I can remember Cam Newton’s run against LSU, and the finish was him beating Patrick Peterson. Mariota doesn’t have any of the sort of tape where he makes his own play and beats everyone.
91 D3FB said at 11:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
No, Nothing on tape showed he had those kinds of wheels. I said last week Mariotta would run a low 4.5 and Hundley would run a high 4.5 or low 4.6.
92 ACViking said at 12:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Hundley’s numbers almost the same as Luck.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Andrew-Luck?id=2533031
93 ACViking said at 12:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Hundley’s shuttle is new Combine record for QBs.
(Beat Matt Scott’s 3.99 in 2013)
94 Anders said at 12:58 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Just saw best since 2006, but makes sense as he is very agile. Would just have thought an RG3 or Vick was more agile consider their lower weight.
95 shah8 said at 1:22 PM on February 21st, 2015:
RGIII is not agile.
96 Cafone said at 2:50 PM on February 21st, 2015:
But can they measure his heart? (Seriously, can we get some x-rays here?)
97 GermanEagle said at 12:49 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Some of you may remember that I had Kevin White atop my WR rankings. Now he just cemented this notion. Boom.
98 anon said at 12:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
stop being so modest you gotta go full geagle.
99 GermanEagle said at 12:54 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I am Mr. humble pie. Just like TO!
100 mksp said at 12:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
“Hahahaahahaha, I’ve been talkign abut Kevin WHite for 4 years since he was in High School, yous donkeys stop stealing my analysis.”
101 ACViking said at 1:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
November 2, 2014 . . . following the Kevin White v. Kevin White – WR/CB match-up.
http://igglesblitz.com/2014/11/saturday-notebook/
102 GermanEagle said at 1:02 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Someone either got a great memory or search skills. 🙂
103 ACViking said at 1:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I remembered the question you asked about whether a WR and CB with the same name ever played against each other.
Great question. But had to find the link.
104 Mitchell said at 12:49 PM on February 21st, 2015:
We are going to get one he’ll of a player this year in the first.
105 GermanEagle said at 12:58 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Every year I wonder how much of a better 40 I could run with professional training. I did consider myself pretty fast, but a 4.8 was all I could master.
These are just not human beings. Lol.
106 Anders said at 12:59 PM on February 21st, 2015:
4.8 is pretty impressive overall (depends on the weight tho, Lane Johnson ran 4.72 at 305 pounds)
107 GermanEagle said at 1:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I am not Lane Johnson weight (thankfully lol).
GE measures in at 5’11, 217 lbs.
My short shuttle was pretty great though, thanks for playing tennis for over 15 years.
108 Cafone said at 2:49 PM on February 21st, 2015:
you’re no Gizmo Williams
109 GermanEagle said at 2:53 PM on February 21st, 2015:
You mean I am not reminding you of a German motivational speaker?!
110 Insomniac said at 1:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Tre McBride looking very very good.
111 Insomniac said at 1:09 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Idk about everyone else but Hundley is growing on me.
112 ACViking said at 1:10 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Belichick was on him early (relatively speaking)
113 GermanEagle said at 1:11 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Pervert (absolutely speaking).
114 anon said at 1:12 PM on February 21st, 2015:
400 level econ class. his agent did a really good job getting him air time, improving his draft stock.
115 mksp said at 1:12 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I’ve been advocating for him for a while. Anyone who actually watches his draftbreakdown tape sees that he can make some special throws, and has underrated pocket presence.
Hopefully his flaws (dropping his eyes, etc.) are coachable.
116 Anders said at 1:16 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I have been on him for while. I can understand why some people aint comfortable with him early, but I think his flaws are overblown and think the whole part about playing for Jim Mora is ignored.
117 oreofestar said at 1:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I’ve been telling people not to be surprised if he is pretty high on our board
118 ACViking said at 1:18 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Talk like that can get someone hurt.
119 unhinged said at 1:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Douche-bag Elway wants to play hardball w/J. Thomas. Thomas would not sign a Kaepernik contract, and now he looks to be hitting the market. Hope he signs with AFC West rival.
120 Anders said at 1:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I think the Broncos crash during next season. I doubt Manning is able to be fully functional all season
121 GEAGLE said at 1:33 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yeah i see the same thing happening. they will be next years “49ers” minus all the arrests.
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unfortunately Julius Thomas hitting the open market, means no chance virgil green reaches the market…. so yeah, im not a big elway fan these days either
122 anon said at 1:31 PM on February 21st, 2015:
winston looks good throwing
123 shah8 said at 1:32 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Cian Fahey still think his arm isn’t that strong.
124 anon said at 1:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
looked plenty good despite all the stuff about his shoulder. mariota def had a little weakness on out routes and anticipation throws.
125 shah8 said at 1:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
My problem was mostly that we’re talking about a dude who is very comparable to Brandon Weedon as a pitcher. Maybe baseball doesn’t correlate to a football, but Winston’s arm is definitely about as strong as RWilson.
126 GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
If White, Parker, Coop, DGB and Strong are the elite WR prospect, what are the odds we see 5 WR drafted in the top 19?
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Figure 2 QBs will go top 19
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atleast 3 edge rushers
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How many OT’s? 3?
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at the very least two DT, Leonard and Shelton
minimum 1 CB? Trae?
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any sure shot top 19 RB?
Safety?
127 oreofestar said at 2:18 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Think you might put Funchess into that discussion and if DGB can knock out interviews he should be there to on a talent perspective.
Yeah should just be 2 QBs unless Hundley rises
Rushers? Gregory no question, Ray, Fowler probably Dupree and Beasley are in the discussion.
OTS? No clue Schreff seems like a lock Ogbuehi, Peat, Clemmings, Collins, Flowers have a shot. Anywhere from 2-4 probably
Leonard is the best player in the draft so yeah, Shelton should be top 15 no question, Armstead maybe and I don;t think Brown is getting enough attention he could get in that top 19
CB? Yeah Trae and Peters if a team trusts him
I haven’t looked at RBS to much but Gordon is there right?
Only Safety I like there is Thompson if you think he is a safety but some team may take Collins
If the top 19 goes Gregory, Ray, Fowler, Dupree, Mariota, Winston, White, Coop, Parker, one of DGB/Strong/Fun, Schreff, Clemmings, Peat, Leonard, Shelton, Brown, Trae, Gordon, Collins that leaves a hell of a lot of talent to choose from
128 GEAGLE said at 2:38 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yes it certainly is starting to look like we will get to draft a kid with a true first round grade instead of having to play the trade back game and choose from a bunch of similarly graded second round prospects and pay them 1st round money
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a true first round talent with strong work ethic is all i ask, the position isnt as important as the charecter and work ethic that comes with that first round talent….. if we do our job in free agency what position we draft in round 1 shouldnt even matter
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but personally, i dont care if you need a QB, i would NEVER NEVER pass on Leonard Willimas…. id give my kidney to pair him with Fletcher Cox and Logan… heck we can get German Eagle and his massive 5’11 frame and 5.73 speed to play linebacker behind that scary line SMH sigh
129 oreofestar said at 2:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Williams is filthy, If I’m TB I would just pair that Monster with Mccoy and call it a day but they won’t, Winston and Mariota are better than the QBS from the last couple years but they aren;t worth number 1 pick IMO.
Honestly I don’t mind a WR round one because round 1 has awesome WRS, I think if DGB can convince Chip he can get his act together we could draft him at 20 but I doubt it unfortunately he’s a knucklehead but Strong or Fun could be in play
130 GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
going with williams/mcCoy is a easy decision in my mind, but QB prospetcs rule the world… i dont know if i want funchess at 20, but DGB and strong would be an easy decision for me. Id draft which ever gets past KC and the niners
131 oreofestar said at 3:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I said Funchess would be in the discussion but I wouldn’t do it at 20 I have him above Smith but firmly at 6 under White, Coop, Park, DGB, Strong and I will take the latter 2 at 20 all day long (assuming DGB character concerns are ok with Chip).
DGB is a monster ON THE FIELD freaking 6’5 238 with sub 4.5 speed
132 GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on February 21st, 2015:
personally i think the top 5 are the only ones i would want to spend a 1st rounder on… but in round two, I like funchess, Sammie, Devin
133 oreofestar said at 3:18 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Funchess I would take round 1 like in the 28-32 range so we’d have to trade down Coates and Smith are definitely second rounders (FOR NOW)
134 GEAGLE said at 3:21 PM on February 21st, 2015:
also wouldnt mind the beastly Gtech kid or the Georgia kid who blew it up today…all are talents chip can work with
135 Anders said at 3:23 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Both the GT kids are interesting, both are very raw, but there size and speed makes em interesting late round targets
136 GEAGLE said at 3:28 PM on February 21st, 2015:
like them better than last years 6’6 guy Coleman from Rutgers
137 oreofestar said at 3:31 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Well Coleman was like 6’7 I think but yeah I like Waller more than him too
138 Anders said at 3:44 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I have zero expectations, but Smelter would be a great pick imo in the 7th or as and UDFA (that ACL injury will drop him even if he was maybe a 3rd round pick before injury)
139 Duracell said at 3:45 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I’m a GT alum. Trust me, the GT receiver you want is Smelter. If he falls to the 3rd/4th due to the injury, that’s a steal. I know the size/speed of Waller is intriguing, but he really shouldn’t go before the 5th round. He’s incredibly raw for being a senior.
140 Anders said at 3:53 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yea I prefer Smelter, but that ACL can be troublesome (some never recovers).
I heard some mention he was a late 2nd or 3rd round pick before the injury, so I would guess 6th to UDFA now, but he fits what Kelly wants.
Big, great blocker and able to high point balls. He would be an upgrade over Cooper.
141 Duracell said at 3:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Before the injury I thought he was a 2nd round pick. You are probably right that I am underestimating the impact of the injury. ACL injuries aren’t the injuries they used to be though. Getting him in the 6th or later would be a coup, and I think he’d be a great fit in this offense.
142 oreofestar said at 3:24 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Oh Conley need to watch him now after the nonsense he was doing today lol I am warming up to Waller though
143 Baloophi said at 2:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
We’ve all suspected that Chip is high on Mariota but saluting him at the Combine seems a little over-the-top…
144 GEAGLE said at 2:02 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Its all a show, he wants the kid to get drafted as high as possible, not fall to the Eagles.. you can praise him without telling the world he has a peyton manning brain
145 Baloophi said at 2:10 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I think a funny gag would’ve been if Marynowitz had put a “KICK ME” sign on Chip’s back. Next time…
146 Baloophi said at 2:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Also – after this past season – it’s good to see Chip scouting himself…
147 mksp said at 2:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
You buried the lede.
148 laeagle said at 12:41 AM on February 22nd, 2015:
The good news is that our mobile war room has two more monitors in it than Jacksonville’s actual war room.
149 Nailed it! said at 2:08 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Cossel saying to look out for Brooks Reed and Marcus Gilchrest to Eagles in FA. Don’t know anything really about Gilchrest but he does not put up goddy numbers. Anyone provide info further on Gilchrest?
150 GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Brooks Reed absolutely makes sense as a better Casey Mathews, guy that can play inside while also providing OLB depth..
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Gilchrist is one of the top 2nd tier young options. Its similr to a Nolan Carrol signing where he isnt completely proven but one of the young talents who are being pojected to play their best ball over the course of the next contract they sign,,, like a safety Keenan allen type of solid but not great signing….
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shouldnt be hard to recruit Brooks into signing with the eagles, we already have a 3rd of his houston team mates in place.
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I dont hate the gilchrist signing, but I think we can do better at safety. thats the type of guy you sign as a fallback option if you miss on your top target… THen again, if we pay for Maxwell, makes sense to go with a guy like Gilchrist at safety.. he has started i think every game the last two seasons… he used to be a slot corner, moved to safety and played more of a strong safety role, but he can cover since he has a CB backgriound.. 26yr old. played in a few playoff games… Not a bad signing at all for us, but not top on my list either..he had the game winning INT against the Rams
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2nd in tackle to weddle. recent transition to safety but since then he has decreased his miss tackles in each of the two years… Truly a young player on an upward trajectory
151 Nailed it! said at 2:18 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Yeah would love to have Brooks in our OLB rotation! Thanks for the info on Gilchrest!
152 GEAGLE said at 2:20 PM on February 21st, 2015:
in fairness.. the negative is he gets flagged ALOT, and a year or two ago QBs had like a 100 QBR throwing against him but he is improving in his safety transition…i prefer a guy like Searcy who made a bunch of plays without getting flagged for a single penalty,. our secondary lacked discaplin, that searcy would clean up a bit
153 oreofestar said at 2:24 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I think you hit the nail on the head though if we end up paying Max/Kareem it makes sense to get a cheaper guy like Gilchirst/Parker but if we get House or a guy like that we can go nab Searcy (I like him a lot too I think we watch too many Bills games by the way lol)
154 GEAGLE said at 2:29 PM on February 21st, 2015:
lol i def watch way too many bills games… need to stop using their roster as my free agent shopping calender every year…………………if the Eagles waste a top pick on a QB, im going to start a trade foles to the bills campaign so I can rock with the bills as my official AFC mistress 🙂
155 oreofestar said at 2:36 PM on February 21st, 2015:
The Bills are already my official AFC mistress
156 GEAGLE said at 2:48 PM on February 21st, 2015:
the problem is I can tell you anything about their defense in the past 2-3 years, but i dont know the first thing about their offense lol. Unless their offense was on the field against a defense I admire, you can bet I fast forwarded thru seasons of Bills offense… even Sammy Watkins wasnt enough to get me to watch…… i need them to get a top young QB like Foles before I can embrace the entire team… tho the fact that they have the fruit of buddy ryans Loins leading them is def a turn on… only thing missing is a young QB who is the truth like Nick Foles and Im sold… and if the Eagles are too dumb to spend top picks on players that can help foles succeed, and go wasting it on college QBs that Nick will never lose a QB battle against, then I hope they just trade Nick… one foot in, one foot out doesnt no one any good… If you keep turning down friggin valuable trade compensation for Foles then spend your top picks on putting Talent around him like all the other franchises do with their talented young QBs, and when its time to spend a top pick, stop tdrooling over inferior QB brains to Nick, that have the biggest hands and the best punt returner attributes lol. either trade Nick and start whatever friggin QB you want, or spend your top picks strengthening the team around Nick… QB needs continuity,.cant waste another friggin year playing musical chairs,teaching new QBs the offense
157 anon said at 2:28 PM on February 21st, 2015:
rolando mclain 4 game suspension.
158 GermanEagle said at 2:29 PM on February 21st, 2015:
For arson?
159 anon said at 2:30 PM on February 21st, 2015:
fine not supension, oh well. substance abuse.
160 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on February 21st, 2015:
boooooooo lol
161 GEAGLE said at 2:31 PM on February 21st, 2015:
this kid is just friggin allergic to money and success smh. good luck in free agency kid
162 GermanEagle said at 2:44 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I. Just. Can’t. Get. Used. To. Liking. Winston.
He doesn’t come across genuine to me at all.
163 GEAGLE said at 2:51 PM on February 21st, 2015:
i get why you would say that…. but Id rather listen to him talk instead of McNabb any day
164 GermanEagle said at 2:57 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I don’t know what happened to Donovan. A shame really.
Speaking of Winston: if I was a decision maker in the NFL I’d second guess his ability to deal with adversity. All I hear him saying is that he loves to win. Paired with the fact he has never been on a losing team since his times in the little league I’d be worried how he does on a team like the Bucs….
165 Media Mike said at 2:58 PM on February 21st, 2015:
How is does is the least of my concerns. He can’t even manage “who he does” without raping them.
166 GEAGLE said at 3:07 PM on February 21st, 2015:
most successful QB i ever got to root for, but friggin unbearable to listen to…
167 Cafone said at 2:59 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I concur.
http://i.imgur.com/2fvBRId.jpg
Tear down the 5!
168 GEAGLE said at 3:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
but “5 will always love you”….
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“see THOSE glorious division banners up there?, Five did that!!!” lol …. what a big deal, its not like chip and foles couldnt put up one of those “division banners” in their first NFL season…. Oh wait….
169 GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Davon House – DB – Packers
The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel believes free agent CB Davon House could command $7 million annually on the open market.
“Because of a dearth of top-end corners and the desperate need for good cover men around the league, the chase for solid corners might get heated,” said Packers beat writer Tom Silverstein. “House could wind up receiving $7 million on the open market.” The Packers want House back, but would prefer a contract closer to $5 million a season. House is Rotoworld’s No. 7 available corner.
-roto
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contradicts reports that GB would be able to keep him off the market, which would mean letting older Tramon Williams walk… If we cant have Maxwell, hope this kid hits the market…
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think a doable wish list for the secondary is:
1) Davon House CB and Da’Norris Searcy Safety
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2) Byron Maxwell CB and Marcus Gilchrist Safety
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one top tier DB and one 2nd tier DB
170 oreofestar said at 3:25 PM on February 21st, 2015:
If House wants 7 then I;d go option 2
171 GEAGLE said at 3:26 PM on February 21st, 2015:
thats his high negotiatiopoint.. doesnt automatically mean he will get it… but i probably would rather spend 10 on Max than 7 on house too
172 oreofestar said at 3:29 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I’d rather not give either of them that number but yeah I’d give Max 10 too over House 7
173 GEAGLE said at 3:35 PM on February 21st, 2015:
for the Eagles to be able to go true BPA in the draft, they have some serious work to do in Free agency. next years team NEEDS to be build in free agency NOT the draft, so i need the eagles do make some serious moves and not fuck around in this free agent market. i sat patient giving chip two years to do whatever he wanted.. well year 3 its time to produce and be held to same standards as any other coach we would hire. we wanted to go with stop gaps at certain positions for two years, fine,…but now its time to deliver. Need a serious free agent haul to build next years contending team:
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Safety: Searcy
CB: House
OLB/ILB Brooks Reed
Edge rusher: McPhee, Sheard or Worlids
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should not be a problem when clearing Cary, Cole, BG, Nate, James Casey, Bradley fletcher, Brad smiths salaries off our books…
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get some young OL, WR, TE, ILB in the draft
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one last year of paying foles in circus peanuts, take advantage and put a team around him we can contend with
174 oreofestar said at 3:38 PM on February 21st, 2015:
If we get House/Searcy/Worilds/Reed and resign Maclin that’s be great
175 GEAGLE said at 3:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
figure we are clearing alot of money. Cary and Brads salaries off the books can pay for a good corner
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Cole and BG off the books can pay for a good edge rusher and brooks reed
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we paying Maclin, but you figure Brad smiths money comes off the books, next year we clear coopers money off the books and we will be paying for maclin and a stable of young WRs on cheap rookie contracts so paying Maclin shouldnt even be a concern
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Safety upgrading from Nates salary to searcy will cost us some money, but the Cap is going up anyway.
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we also clearing james Caseys money, and Celek will come off the books this year or next and we will be paying a group of TE on cheap rookie contracts..
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in a year or two shady will prob be cleared for a cheap rookie contract
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figure in a year or two, Herremans and maybe mathis money will be off the books and replaced with cheap rookie deals of like fisher or Grasu
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should NOT be a problem having a quality free agent haul that allows us to contend with foles next year
176 oreofestar said at 3:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
we are at about 28.5mil after the Casey cut, cut Cary and Cole and that becomes about 43mil
177 GEAGLE said at 11:29 PM on February 21st, 2015:
i wanted to keep Cole and BG, but if we are going to have to replace them anyway in the near future(Cole), we be stupid to just not do it now and take advantage of as good of an edge rusher market as we can ever hope to see. Rather replace them in a stacked OLB market, then get another year out of them and have to replace them in a slim pickings OLB market next year.. Pernell McPhee too good of a young player to pass up, with Worlids and Sheard as backup plans
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I expect Davon House, more than I expect Max, but i figured id throw fans a bone since everyone is so Maxwell excited…. On the other hand, im not so sure Cary wont be here next year, and if Cary isnt cut there is no way we will also pay for Max… there really isnt anyone to cut. i wont even entertain cutting Demeco… if we end up keeping Cary, the only player to waive is James Casey who we already know about, and trent Cole… all the other players we lose are just guys whos contracts expire that we wont resign like Bradley, Nate, Brad Smith, BG, possibly Casey Mathews, but I assume if you sign Brooks Reed you would have to let Casey Mathews walk also
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i cant really see anyone else who we would cut. The Only other possibility is Herremans. I have heard people say he is completely shot and we have to replace him, and i have heard people say he is safe, so i really have no idea which side we are leaning… but once older lineman with alot of games under their belt start missing significant playing time each year, i start to worry…I assume Chip isnt ready to cut Celek, but ill be surprised if he can handle more than one more year of the physicality of his game and how we use him as a quasi lineman more than a TE
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Coop 100% needs to be cut next year, or atleast take serious pay cut. so paying Mac doesnt matter, its all about how much money are you spending on a position as a whole, and next year they will cut coop, and Maclin will be the only WR making any real money. all the other WRs will be on cheap rookie deals for a few more years so there is no reason to lose Maclin
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Chip kelly isnt going to look at the draft to fill next years team. Next years team will be built in free agency, and we have a good amount of needs, so we have no choice but to have a significant free agency this year…
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Curious to see 3 things:
1) Herremans, stay or go…
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2) Cole, stay, go, restructure… only because of a stacked market at his position i have to lean towards go…
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3) Cary Williams, you know i always thought he would be back whether the consenses agree.. but if you can get a serious CB upgrade this year, than do it, instead of going with Cary again and being forced to upgrade him next year… my only thing is if Cary is staying, I assumed we would give him a new 2 year deal that we can really get out of this year to get his cap number down
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those are really the only major roster decisions of our own guys that we have to make…. other than if we care to extend Nate. Bradlet, Brad smith, Casey Mathews, James Casey, Brandon Graham, but im thinking BG and Casey Mathews are the only ones with a chance at being brought back, everyone else we will allow to leave… i guess there is a chance we could bring back Brad smith for ST, but i only say that because chip is a ST freak. rather cut Maehl and bring back Brad SMith
178 Anders said at 3:39 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Sammy Coates with Broad Jump of 10’11” and a Vert of 41″
179 Anders said at 3:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Some guys on twitter is thinking that there is something wrong with the 40 times. Pretty much every RB is slow as hell according to offical forty times
180 Insomniac said at 3:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Idk they didn’t look really that fast.
181 Anders said at 3:51 PM on February 21st, 2015:
The problem is every RB underperformed compared to what you can expect from their size/weight and the odds of that is super small.
182 GermanEagle said at 4:25 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Saw and thought the same.
183 ACViking said at 9:18 PM on February 21st, 2015:
All the fast RBs now play WR
184 Anders said at 3:50 PM on February 21st, 2015:
#UGA WR Chris Conley 45" vertical: tied for best since 2006 among all positions 11'7" broad: tied for best since 2006 among ALL positions— Josh Norris (@JoshNorris) 21. februar 2015
This guy is 6’2, 213, ran 4.35 and did 18 reps at bench. Guy is a total freak of nature, no clue if he can play at all
185 Insomniac said at 3:51 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Jesus Christ.
Bigger freak than Julio Jones.
186 ACViking said at 4:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
FYI . . . Conley’s an Academic All-American.
Will graduate from UGA in 3.5 years.
187 Insomniac said at 4:09 PM on February 21st, 2015:
And with the first pick of the 2015 NFL draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select Chris Conley, Georgia.
188 ACViking said at 4:11 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Maybe 2nd Rd!!!
189 ACViking said at 4:11 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Conley’s also notorious to UGA fans for being the WR who caught a deflected, short pass on 3rd Down at the 5-yard line with less than 10 seconds remaining, with Georgia needing a TD to beat Alabama and win the SEC East — with no timeouts remaining.
Conley was tackled short of the goal line and time expired.
Happened his sophomore season.
He took enormous heat from the rabid-fan types. Some pretty ugly things said about him.
Tremendous character, though.
190 Insomniac said at 4:13 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Stop it. My mancrush of the year was supposed to be Todd Gurley
191 ACViking said at 4:14 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Well, Gurley’s not an Academic All American, if that helps.
192 A Roy said at 9:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Guess that makes you a Gurley Man…
193 Anders said at 5:00 PM on February 21st, 2015:
So he is high character, big body, comes from a run first offense and is also a great athlete, sounds like he will be a higher pick than many think
194 Insomniac said at 5:02 PM on February 21st, 2015:
https://vine.co/v/OQbIwvZagdF
195 Insomniac said at 5:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRpn4dKtt5w
Yea I’m sold enough already.
196 Anders said at 5:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
OMG BECKHAM JUNIOR GO HOME.
I WANT HIM, CAN I PLEASE HAVE HIM?
197 GermanEagle said at 6:07 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Yes that was a ‘nice’ catch. But ODB’s in a different league.
198 Anders said at 6:08 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I say that catch is more difficult that any ODB has made.
ODB is of course a much better WR, but in terms of highlight catch, that one is crazier for me because he has to leap horizontally and not just vertically
199 GermanEagle said at 6:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Then we happily agree to disagree.
200 A_T_G said at 7:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
For now, but after the draft they will be in the same league. Maybe even the same division.
201 GEAGLE said at 8:27 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Well we know who the mIke Mamula award winner is,,, not saying he is destined to suck like Mamula, but I don’t know a player that helped his stock more at the combine than this kid,…allegedly bad QB play hurt his career
202 ACViking said at 9:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Yep. Aaron Murray was an inconsistent college QB.
203 Anders said at 4:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Brett Hundley/QB/UCLA has been very impressive during the interview process w/teams. Articulate, intelligent and comes across as a leader— Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) 21. februar 2015
We might have to embraces it
204 anon said at 4:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
According to ESPN’s Adam Schefter, the Browns “would have considered” UCLA Brett Hundley in the top-ten picks of last year’s
draft.
Hundley, of course, stayed in school and experienced a drop in draft stock, getting exposed when pressured and failing to advance as a passer. This year, Hundley is viewed as a fourth- or fifth-round prospect. The Browns struggled mightily in year one of the Ray Farmer regime, and the idea that they saw Hundley as such a good prospect isn’tpromising, either.
205 Joe Minx said at 5:04 PM on February 21st, 2015:
lol Browns
206 A_T_G said at 7:50 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Wow, it’s good they dodged that bullet and instead drafted… oh, wait…
207 anon said at 7:56 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yeah i though farmer was good they way they horde draft picks but man, he maybe should be fired.
208 FairOaks said at 9:57 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I don’t think it was Farmer who acquired those picks. They had Banner to thank for one of them (the Richardson trade). They did make the trade with Buffalo to get more picks this year but yeah… you gotta pick the players. Manziel may turn out to be only the second-worst first round pick the Browns made last year…
209 wee2424 said at 9:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
If the Browns want to do something, the smartest thing may be to do the opposite.
210 D3FB said at 11:42 PM on February 21st, 2015:
1. The guys who stay in school don’t get their tape torn apart.
2. Hundley is 0% a fourth or fifth round prospect.
211 anon said at 4:53 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Yahoo’s Rand Getlin reports the Seahawks have offered Marshawn Lynch a deal that would pay him between $11 million and $12 million in 2015.
The deal would span either two or three years, and include $9 million in 2016. “It’s not clear whether Lynch is inclined to accept it,” reports Getlin. The Seahawks seem to be using media reports like this one to put pressure on Lynch, who was reportedly disenchanted by coaches and management during the 2014 season.
212 Insomniac said at 4:59 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Lynch would love it here. Our media wouldn’t though.
213 anon said at 5:12 PM on February 21st, 2015:
SEA fucked up last off season. but lynch has another year on his deal.
214 Rockedupeaglesfan said at 9:12 PM on February 21st, 2015:
He’ll definitely be back next year. He has to repay the hawks a couple million if he doesn’t play or he can make a whole pile of money to play.
215 GEAGLE said at 8:25 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Seeing him with elliot Shor parks and Mosher would be awesome, Chip is starting to Not like the media, I can see him trolling the media and making Lynch the team spokesman who does all the press conferences besides the QB like Meco used to do. Lol let the media spend every day trying to get some info out of lynch… It would be greater than TO doing sit-ups with a news camera in a New Jersey driveway
216 GermanEagle said at 5:00 PM on February 21st, 2015:
This guy on NFL network just applauded his colleague for using ‘DGB’ and said he never heard that before.
I beg to differ!!! Thinking of filing a sue case…
217 OregonDucker said at 7:17 PM on February 21st, 2015:
who is sue?
218 A_T_G said at 7:47 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Some guy with a drunk, gambling jerk for a father.
http://youtu.be/_Gbtm-93oqE
219 wee2424 said at 9:55 PM on February 21st, 2015:
You mean to tell me you dont know Sue?!! Blasphemy. Tommy, block this man!
220 Anders said at 5:05 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Mayock says 3-4 teams need to have a thumper and a Will at ILB, so having the Kendricks Bros. together in Philadelphia might not work.— Dan Kadar (@MockingTheDraft) 21. februar 2015
Seems the current NFL times are flying past Mayock.
No way 3-4 teams need a pure thumper who cant defend TEs or RBs out of the backfield.
Also Erik Kendricks had over 100 tackles each year playing MLB, I think he is more than enough thumper to play next to Mychal (who is actually the heavier guy)
Erik+Mychal would fit perfect.
Mychal is a great pursuit player who is a devasting blitzer, where Erik is the steady tackler, but also got great coverage instincts to cover TEs and RBs
221 Media Mike said at 5:10 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Depends on the 3-4. My sense is that while Fangio and Carroll / Bradley / Quinn don’t need a thumper at one of the two ILB spots in their systems Rex, Bowles, and the LeBeau gang do.
I guess it really depends on what you want the guys to do in your “3-4.”
222 Anders said at 5:13 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Lebeau drafted Shazier last year to play next to Lawerence Timmons, so no Lebeau does not need a thumper
223 Media Mike said at 5:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Fair point, for last year. Let’s see what he does in Tennessee.
Pittsburgh aside, there are still teams that have a heavier guy inside.
I’d agree that nobody is out there looking for the 2015 version of Levon Kirkland, but not every team wants two ILBs in the 230 and under range.
224 Anders said at 5:58 PM on February 21st, 2015:
The problem is Eagles had Ryans and Mychal who both are around 240, so adding Erik who will be around the 235 is not a problem at all
225 Media Mike said at 6:07 PM on February 21st, 2015:
I agree with you there.
226 wee2424 said at 9:39 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Pitt like us 2 gaps therefore you have smaller faster LB. Like us.
227 wee2424 said at 9:38 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Also depends on the style and skill of the line in front of the LB. 1 gap, 2 gap etc.
228 GEAGLE said at 8:15 PM on February 21st, 2015:
No worries. It’s nonsense. You can bet Chip will value two Kendricks. I can see chip now with his simple practical post draft explanation “the way we looked at it, two Kendricks are better then one”..
229 Rockedupeaglesfan said at 9:13 PM on February 21st, 2015:
San Fran has shown that thinking to be false.
230 wee2424 said at 9:37 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Maybe a 1 gapping system in which i can see a heavier MLB may be of use, but clearly Mayock has not done his HW. The 2 gap helps keep LB clean allowing them to use their speed and quickness.
231 Media Mike said at 5:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
If anybody wants a break from the combine, GGG is about to leave a dead body in the ring on HBO.
232 GEAGLE said at 8:07 PM on February 21st, 2015:
UCLA vs. Arizona….. Boxing bores me. dUtch and Thai kickboxing has ruined boxing for me … Mayweather and Paqiao are a disgrace for not fighting all these years. Tho I do like those new young Russian boxers
233 anon said at 6:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Conley’s vertical jump was 45 inches and his broad jump was 11 feet, 7 inches. Both are the best ever for any wide receiver at the Combine.
234 Anders said at 6:09 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Its best for any position since 2006, most likely combine records for any position
235 OregonDucker said at 7:23 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Winston forces throws. He is a turnover machine in a tight contest. Chip loves Mariota. LOVE is a beautiful thing. Get ready, Marcus is coming.
236 anon said at 7:57 PM on February 21st, 2015:
In a story published Saturday, Bleacher Report‘s Mike Freeman quoted an unnamed evaluator who raved about Winston’s “[football] IQ.”
Said the evaluator: “I think he’s probably the smartest player I’ve ever interviewed.”
Freeman also reports that Winston had been compared to Peyton Manning from a football intelligence standpoint “several times” in the reporter’s discussions with club officials.
237 anon said at 7:57 PM on February 21st, 2015:
some personnel guys are idiots so you cant read too much into it but…
238 oreofestar said at 8:01 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Well I’ve been hearing that and I wouldn’t doubt he has a lot of FOOTBALL intelligence, off the field on the other hand…
239 anon said at 8:03 PM on February 21st, 2015:
reading more steve mariucci says he’s the smartest x and os guy he’s ever interviewed out of college. and there was a lot of debate about his iq yesterday
240 GEAGLE said at 8:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Some are also liars this time of year… Tôugh to really trust anything an agent tells someone or a front office guy tells you this time of year, all those pricks have alterior motives and are paranoid about this being the most super secret time of year, Id bet more counter Intel is leaked then real Intel.
241 MagatBrackendale said at 9:27 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Saw some of his interview today. He came across as maybe trying a little too hard to be amusing, but that could be nerves.
242 jpate said at 9:46 PM on February 21st, 2015:
NFL network said steve marucci said something similar. Apparently he did a gruden like qb camp and winston blew him away
243 GEAGLE said at 11:06 PM on February 21st, 2015:
yeah i laughed and found it so cheesy that NFL network swaggerjacked espn grudens QB camp special
244 wee2424 said at 9:52 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Alot of us assume that because he has made stupid decisions off the feild that his football IQ isnt high. I think that thought process is wrong, and i am happy to hear this.
245 BreakinAnklez said at 10:20 PM on February 21st, 2015:
People have been talking about his football IQ since he arrived at FSU. I don’t know why this continues to surprise people.
246 MagatBrackendale said at 9:39 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Don’t know whether to laugh or cry reading comments about just dumping 4 or 5 Eagles and their salaries, then casually picking up any DB anybody here happens to fancy. Especially with the repeated warnings about the lack of quality DBs all over the league. Why, some folks might think that no one else would even consider making offers to the most desirable DBs.
247 wee2424 said at 9:43 PM on February 21st, 2015:
Alot of people think NFL FA and salary cap is the same as playing Madden.