Ali Marpet

Posted: March 24th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 276 Comments »

One of my favorite players in the upcoming draft is OG Ali Marpet. I think he would make a terrific Eagle and he could step in and challenge for the RG spot right away.

But he’s from D3 Hobart College. What kind of value do you put on him? Are there any fears he won’t be able to handle the NFL?

In the 2 drafts with Chip Kelly as part of the equation, the Eagles have been a big school team. The closest thing to a pick from a small school is someone from Vanderbilt or Utah. Is that on Chip, Howie, or just how things worked out?

Marpet is not a complete projection. He went to the Senior Bowl and was one of the stars. He went to the Combine and posted terrific numbers. You can judge him against NF-caliber talent. Marpet didn’t just do okay, he excelled. He stood out.

Jimmy Bama and I talked to him in Mobile. I can’t stress to you enough how impressive he was. Marpet played LT in college, but knew he had to move inside in the NFL. He was realistic about what he could and could not do. That isn’t to say he lacked confidence, but this wasn’t a delusional kid. And trust me…a lot of prospects are sure they are the next Reggie White, Jason Peters, or Troy Vincent.

PE.com has up a whole bunch of info on Marpet. Bo Wulf wrote the piece and you can always trust him, unless he’s writing about that dump of a college…Wake Forest. Bo was held captive there for 4 years and suffers from Stockholm Syndrome. He wasn’t smart enough to get into a good school, like Appalachian State University.

Back to Marpet.

The Eagles do have interest. Jeff Stoutland ran Marpet’s Pro Day workout. You can see some of the workout on a video in this link. You don’t send Stout to check a kid out unless you have serious interest in him.

It will be interesting to see where Marpet goes in the draft. I would be comfortable spending a 2nd round pick on Marpet. I’d love to get him in the 3rd, but I just don’t think there is any way he lasts that long. Regardless of when or where he goes, Marpet is someone I’ll follow out of curiosity. He’s the best D3 prospect I’ve ever seen. Does he become a stud OL, an effective starter or does he have a disappointing career? I’ll be pulling for him, as long as he’s not with an NFC East rival.

276 Comments on “Ali Marpet”

1 ICDogg said at 12:04 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I read the name “Ali Marpet” and my mind associated “Ali Baba on a flying Carpet”. So maybe that will help me remember his name.
It seems right. Herremans came from Saginaw Valley State and helped us pretty much immediately.
2 Charlie Kelly said at 12:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
as long as he isnt from canada and is a firefighter
3 MagsDaffyDilly said at 3:43 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Fitting, then, that a trio of Canadian football graduates were key contributors in Sunday’s incredible comeback win over the Green Bay Packers, the overtime thriller of an NFC Championship as compelling as you are ever going to see.
Jon Ryan, punter. Luke Willson, tight end. And Chris Matthews, special-teams ace.
Take away one of the key plays made by any of those three and the Seahawks Super Bowl defence would have ended in defeat against a Packers team that frittered it all away.
http://fabwags.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/luke-willson-girlfriend-1.jpg
4 Charlie Kelly said at 3:46 PM on March 24th, 2015:
cool story bro
5 Dave M. said at 7:05 PM on March 24th, 2015:
But are any of them firfighters? Charlie used the conjunctive.
6 Mark Sitko said at 12:14 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would like him in round 2 – I have seen people mock him to us in Round 1 – that would bum me out…he just doesn’t seem to dominate the way TJ Clemmings, Fisher and Scherff do on film, and he was going against lesser competition I would assume…do you have any strength concerns? I wish we could get him in round 3 but I agree that would be highly unlikely. Great prospect – means a lot to hear you say he is best D3 player you have ever seen.
7 ICDogg said at 12:19 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Looks like PFF is expanding into college ball a little bit. (CFF?) Here’s Mariota vs Winston, done on 12/31. Their numbers show a strong preference for Mariota. It’s almost Evan Mathis-like love.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/12/31/mariota-vs-winston-by-the-numbers/
8 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
PFF punish/reward decision making, so the number of picks Winston throws is a huge negative and while Mariota is a metronome finding the open receiver and taking low risks. The things that NFL guys like about Winston will not show up in PFF scoring.
PFF is an interesting resource but it rewards players who make very limited mistakes and the occasion good play, rather than some more impactful players. Take Mathis for example – very rarely makes mistakes, does not miss assignments and gets to the second level well in the run game means he will consistently grade well, but that in my opinion means he is a very good guard – not a great one which PFF makes him out to be.
9 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:19 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I almost want us to go back to back OL in this draft first picks, TJ Clemmings in the 1st and Marpet in the 2nd, give you a young long term pair of guards with one having the potential to play RT.
Draft group for WR’s is really deep, feel you can get a Conley in the 3rd and a Kenny Bell in the 4th. I know that does not add anything secondary wise but i would rather draft to strengths rather than reach and hope next years FA group and Draft are better.
10 Charlie Kelly said at 12:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
noramlly id be pissed at duel OL picks, but damn if they get rid of mathis, we will really need it.
Conely? Kenny Bell.. meh those WRs really just dont do it for me.
11 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Well any 3rd round a lower draft pick is going to have flaws and limitations, i just think they have the tools to become legitimate players, and i think you can have an offence without a stand out superstar WR.
12 ICDogg said at 12:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yes, I’d agree. Give the QB slightly more time and he can make things happen. Open up a slightly bigger hole and the RBs can make things happen. Use Ertz a little more. Throw to Sproles once in a while. There are things we could do with that even if our starting WRs were Huff (or Matthews) and Cooper.
I’d like to see more double-RB situations, more double TE situations, less triple WR situations.
13 ICDogg said at 12:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’d love to do that actually
14 Javi Echie said at 12:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Agreed. Especially if Chip sticks to his guns about running the ball so much that back-to-back o-line picks would not only give us potential day 1 starters but depth as well if one doesn’t start right away or if they move veterans like Tobin and Barbre to the bench.
15 ICDogg said at 12:42 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Exactly. We invest this much in running backs and a quarterback we need to create the conditions for them to thrive.
What was the biggest difference for Dallas from 2 years ago to last year? It wasn’t that their crappy defense got so much better. It’s that their line improved and helped keep the defense off the field.
16 James said at 12:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would love OL 1 and 2. But If there is a nice tweener CB/S prospect like Eric Rowe in the 3rd still available then I’d rather we get him than a WR.
17 ICDogg said at 1:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’d be OK with that.
18 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:03 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I mean my suggested WR’s could well be available in the 4th/5th, and there are other guys we could be interested in late round – DeAndre Smelter is a player i would love to take a late round flyer on – and we know this team is not worried about ACL tears!
19 Mr. Magee said at 12:44 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’m not sure about 2nd round, but if I can’t have a HaHa Clinton-Dix on my team, I’ll take an Ali Marpet
20 wee2424 said at 12:51 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I wouldn’t mind back to back Oline. Our line needs to be strong and a combo of fisher/marpet or clemmings/marpet would insure that. The only thing that deters me from this is WR and safety. We have the chance to get a very good WR in draft. It all depends on how have Mathews and Huff progressed.
21 Javi Echie said at 12:55 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Really wouldn’t worry about WR and Safety early in the draft. This is another deep WR draft so we can land impact wideouts in the 3rd and after. As for safety, the top safety in this draft Collins doesn’t really fit what the eagles are looking for in there safety so I doubt they take one in the first and doubt they take one in the 2nd.
22 wee2424 said at 1:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I agree. I think safety will be taken in 3rd possibly 4th. I want to make it clear that in no way am I panicking over WR. However Cooper is ineffective. Mathews probably stays in slot. So you go WR in 3rd or 4th who probably is not going to be that much of a threat. You take Maclin out of last year and you lose some games that we won. We don’t need an all-star but you do need someone good. Not having a threat opposite Cooper negatively affects the entire offense.
23 Javi Echie said at 1:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Oh I hear ya and absolutely agree Wee, we need another option on the outside. My outlook is based a lot on what I’ve been hearing/reading about how Chip values WRs as compared to RBs, O-line, and QB. It seems he doesn’t mind not having a real elite receiver on the outside, even though he was willing to pay Mac 10mil. The fact is we don’t know what go through Chip’s head and wont know until after the draft. I am all for drafting at least one very good to solid WR that can hopefully contribute right away.
24 wee2424 said at 3:11 PM on March 24th, 2015:
With how he is able to scheme WRs open alot I completely agree with him devaluing that position and valuing Oline more. I think if you have a dominate Oline you can truly dictate the game, and it makes every position group better. However I think no matter how good your scheme is their is a level of talent you don’t want to go under. Brady truly struggled 2 seasons ago with some garbage WRs. You need talent to execute scheme. Then when the D figures you out then you really need that talent to just simply beat the man in front of you.
25 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:58 PM on March 24th, 2015:
This is a tweet from Daniel Jeremiah last night:
talked to a team exec the other day and he mentioned that his team would like to draft 3 OL…can't remember who it was. I'm getting old!!— Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) March 24, 2015
Now Jeremiah is an ex Eagles scout – and i think he is pretty plugged into the eagles from a draft perspective and i think they can use him as a media voice at times – he came out before the draft last year saying that Marcus Smith would go late first and that NFL teams were high on him.
Now i am not saying it is the eagles for sure – but it would not surprise me if they were the team he spoke to.
26 ICDogg said at 12:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
It would make perfect sense.
27 GermanEagle said at 1:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Why not draft 7 OL?!
28 Javi Echie said at 1:08 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Only if at least 4 of those o-lineman can play WR, Safety, and CB.
29 anon said at 1:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
or QB, everyone has to be a previous QB.
30 ACViking said at 1:17 PM on March 24th, 2015:
“That’s a Bingo!”
. . .
“Ya jus’ say, ‘Bingo.'”
31 Javi Echie said at 1:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Where’s the bear jew when you need him right now so he can beat your head in with a bat.
32 ACViking said at 1:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
My head?
33 Javi Echie said at 1:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Really man you make a reference to Inglorious Bastards and don’t get the bear jew reference?
34 ACViking said at 1:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Of course I know who the “Bear Juden” is.
The way you phrased your comment, though, I was wondering if were saying “Teddy Ballgame” should tee-up on my head?
35 Javi Echie said at 1:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Ohhhh ok understandable, I should have rephrased it better.
36 ACViking said at 1:28 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Love when Eli Roth comes out of that tunnel . . .
37 Javi Echie said at 1:28 PM on March 24th, 2015:
As great as that movie is, that is hands down one of the best scenes.
38 Insomniac said at 2:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Why not!! We’re giving away players anyway because they’re overpaid and won’t cut the guys making more than they should!!
39 Avery Greene said at 2:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I took this as a challenge, I don’t think the draft game liked my picks.
Your score is: 3566 (GRADE: C+)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (BALT): Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (B-)
Round 2 Pick 20: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)
Round 2 Pick 26 (BALT): Tre’ Jackson, OG, Florida State (C-)
Round 3 Pick 20: Daryl Williams, OT, Oklahoma (C)
Round 4 Pick 14: Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (C)
Round 5 Pick 9: Shaquille Mason, OG/C, Georgia Tech (D)
Round 5 Pick 20: Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU (F)
Round 6 Pick 20: Erick Dargan, SS, Oregon (C+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Jordan Taylor, WR, Rice (D+)
40 A_T_G said at 3:34 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Seven? With a few trade backs we can replace the first and second string and really clear some cap space:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 30 (G.B.): Jake Fisher, OT, Oregon (B)
Round 2 Pick 20: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)
Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Hroniss Grasu, C, Oregon (A-)
Round 2 Pick 27 (DEN): Arie Kouandjio, OG, Alabama (D+)
Round 2 Pick 30 (G.B.): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (D+)
Round 3 Pick 20: Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State (D)
Round 4 Pick 14: Adam Shead, OG, Oklahoma (F)
Round 5 Pick 9: Shaquille Mason, OG/C, Georgia Tech (D)
Round 5 Pick 20: Tayo Fabuluje, OT/OG, TCU (F)
Round 6 Pick 20: Jamon Brown, OT, Louisville (F)
Round 7 Pick 20: Brandon Bridge, QB, South Alabama (B+)
41 Avery Greene said at 3:37 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Actually I like your first three picks. Grasu was off the board before I picked. 🙁
42 A_T_G said at 3:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yeah, when I was doing it, I realized how much of a football nerd I am that I would not be disappointed if the second round ended and we had drafted only those three players.
43 Anders said at 1:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
TJ Clemmings/Fischer, then Mapert and later a guy like Mitch Moose?
44 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:07 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would be well on board with that, build that OL, and i don’t dislike redundancy because there is always a chance a rookie doesn’t adapt well or someone gets injured.
45 Insomniac said at 2:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Come on Anders. It’s Fisher. Don’t go GEAGLE on us now with stupid spelling.
46 Ben Hert said at 4:10 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Wait there’s a guy named Mitch Moose? I should introduce him to my coworker named Ken Knuckles.
47 MattE said at 1:44 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Wouldn’t surprise me as a Plan-B…. we are not going to know anything until draft day/Mariota sliding or getting picked….. does anyone else think Chip watched “Draft Day” multiple times last year and trying his best to be Kevin Costner on draft day? The movie sucked, but the actual scene with the draft going on was awesome.
48 daveH said at 9:39 PM on March 24th, 2015:
its kevin Costner .. of course it sucked.. heres how you pitch him on a flick .. “Kevin you’ll be playing the role of the greeeeatest nfl guy ever!. you’ll be great like you were as the greatest cowboy ever, greatest spy ever, greatest postman ever, greatest loneliestsaddest husband whose wife died for sympathy dude … ”
his cowboy suked
watch BLACK ROBE came out same time ..scary good
49 MattE said at 3:40 PM on March 25th, 2015:
hahaha, good Costner rant my man… “Field of Dreams” is probably the only acceptable movie…. thanks to James Earl Jones lol.
50 daveH said at 10:00 PM on March 26th, 2015:
you made me f in laff out f in loud ! thank you for knowing that we ALL love to rant incoherently about stuff.
51 Avery Greene said at 1:48 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I said in the last post that I thought they could/should get 3 OL in this draft. This wouldn’t surprise me as I see them really needed to address T, G, & G/C.
52 GEAGLE said at 6:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would imagine that if they draft a 3rd it would have to be in the later later rounds…. I find it hard to believe that the 3rd OL we draft would come in like round 5….. when we get to those 6th and 7th round picks, thats when i think we should really go with pure BPA. Hopefully you find a kid available that you had a 5th round grade on….
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Im fixated on Fish and Grasu…. I have to see them draft two Other OLineman to believe it.
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Grasu is very important because he is our chance to have an Elite backup center if Kelce has to miss time, and Jason hasnt exactly been the posterchild for durability in his young career. I think the center position is just as important as Tackle in todays game… Grasu is talented enough that he could have a chance at taking Kelce’s job, I just dont think it would happen because its a poor use of assets,. since Grasu is 300lbs and has 32inch arm length so he can play Guard, where as Kelce is too small to play anything but Center… But with how important the Center position is, and how good Grasu is, how athletic he is, high character, leader who chip recruited and flourished playing and practicing in a high tempo, I would be absolutely SHOCKED if he isnt an Eagle on draft day….basically I think Grasu will be the only backup center on our roster, and they will fill the bench with G/T’s…
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Fisher I also expect to be drafted, because he is a Guard we can target and count on being available, trade back a few spots, pick up a 3rd and still end up with Fisher, a starting Guard next year and our eventual RT of the future…
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Think these guys are too good, and it would take a prospect that would significantly outclass them to have us pass up a quality known commodity for an unknown… Fisher and Grasu arent the only quality Guards in this draft, i just think when its our turn to pick there might be a slightly better rated guard, but no one that will be so much better that its worth gambling on the unknown, especially not knowing how 300lber will handle our tempo and unique practice style
53 laeagle said at 1:10 PM on March 24th, 2015:
It would be really interesting if the trade rumors we’re hearing are only partially true. By that, I mean rumors of Boykin and Kendricks being up for trade. How would that be partially true? First, we don’t go for Mariota. Second, we load up on O-lineman, as some have suggested (Clemmings in 1, Marpet/Fisher in 2). Third, we move those aforementioned guys for more picks in this draft, like an extra 2 or 3, and use that to pick up one of the higher-ranked WRs. Then maybe that Arizona St. safety in the 3rd.
In other words, we could be moving assets, but it may be to stock up on picks to actually use, instead of as ammunition for Mariota. It would reconcile the talk from Chip about keeping Bradford with the still-swirling trade rumors. As well as with the importance Chip places on the draft.
We all love the Boy-King, but the fact is, we’re loaded now with guys who can play slot, between Boykin, Thurmond, and Watkins. He’s a great player but somewhat expendable. Same situation exists with Kendricks. As much as I’d love a Kendricks/Alonso inside duo, I could handle one of those ILB posts being average if it meant we could be exceptional somewhere else, like OG or WR.
Of course, I still maintain that if Mariota drops, then Chip makes a move. But not if he has to give up Bradford. I really don’t think he would at this point. 2 firsts and players, maybe. So that means we only get Mariota if he gets in range.
54 anon said at 1:11 PM on March 24th, 2015:
If the pick compensation was right those guys would be gone, i’d say that for any person on the team right now.
55 RobNE said at 1:15 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I think Chip thinks MM can start this season for him. There’s no reason to pay Bradford to still be on the team if we trade for MM.
More importantly, did you go to UVA?
56 laeagle said at 1:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I think Bradford and Mariota both would be a very good situation. Gives us a chance to both wait and see with Mariota as well as develop Mariota. And a chance to greatly increase the trade value of both.
And yes. CLAS 93.
57 RobNE said at 1:29 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I think if he can get MM, he trades Bradford. Esp if he can get a first from Cleveland or whatever.
I am Comm School 93. Wow we were both there for the same heartbreaking losses. Welsh kicking a FG down 3 to GT while ranked # 1 in the country, as if an ACC team at the time could possibly hold on to the # 1 ranking if not undefeated. I hate him for that. Then losing the Sugar Bowl after being up on TN something like 20-3. Thankfully I don’t remember a lot of the ending of that game.
58 laeagle said at 1:39 PM on March 24th, 2015:
God, I remember that GT game so well. But we did have a brief 3 weeks at the top. We also got to rush the field after breaking the Clemson streak.
59 RobNE said at 1:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
20-7. Never forget.
seriously, how can he kick a FG? Does he then win co-ACC title….wow, what a big deal. If you have one chance for glory, how can you do that. I know after the penalty it was 4th and goal from the 6th. But you had Herman Moore on your team. How can you justify kicking and trying to be co-ACC champs rather than say take a 25% chance at being the GD national champions?!?!?!? We’ll just wait for the next time UVA has a shot at that in football.
I mean, not that it still bothers me or anything.
60 laeagle said at 2:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The sad part is that it all felt natural after growing up a fan of Philly sports.
61 laeagle said at 2:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The sad part is that it all felt natural after growing up a fan of Philly sports.
62 RobNE said at 3:23 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Can you throw out a possible reasonable reason why Welsh did that?
63 laeagle said at 3:24 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Maybe he didn’t want to run up the score…
64 teltschikfakeout88 said at 8:14 AM on March 25th, 2015:
Laeagle and RobNe…sorry to butt in here but I was comm 96 here and went back and got a MS in 97…I often lament the same way you do about being an Eagles fan and a UVA football fan…heck I am still pissed about the lucky ass HR that Vandy hit off our closer to take the CWS…don’t get me started on the Bball loss to MSU over the weekend…I swear if MSU makes a run like that 83 NC State team I might vomit.
65 laeagle said at 1:21 PM on March 25th, 2015:
Just imagine going there while Duke and UNC were trading back and forth in BB dominance. Wasn’t a fun time. But hey, we at least had soccer.
66 ACViking said at 1:14 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Re: Marpet the Cat
Below is Belichick’s first post-Senior Bowl eval on the Hobart flash (02/02/15).
(Coach . . . anything changed since then?)
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I’ve played against Marpet coughfuckthestatesmencough so I have Hobart tape (Hobart v. Dickinson is season opener).
I think he’s a good player.
He kicked the shit out of alot of our guys, he’s got heavy hands, a powerful base.
I just don’t know that he’s athletic enough for Kelly’s scheme.
Personally I think he’s going to make a great swing interior OL.
I’ve seen people call him a poor man’s Zach Martin, and that’s extremely generous.
http://igglesblitz.com/2015/02/humble-pie-time-2/
67 D3FB said at 10:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
He tested more athletically than I thought based on film. I still think the safest projection for him is as the primary interior backup. A rich man’s Julian Vandervelde if you will. Those guys tend to stick around the league for a long time, I just don’t see him as a great starter.
Also he’s not even the best D3 OL I’ve ever seen.
68 ICDogg said at 1:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/PhillyDailyNews/status/580412812104634368
69 anon said at 1:34 PM on March 24th, 2015:
why would you pay them early?
70 ICDogg said at 1:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Extensions to secure their services in the future
71 anon said at 1:44 PM on March 24th, 2015:
aside from the fact that we have no $$, if we keep kendricks i’d just work his deal during the season — effective next season, cox i’d probably take the option depending on what the $$ looks like b/c he’ll be expensive.
72 ICDogg said at 1:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Extensions to secure their services in the future
73 sonofdman said at 2:14 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Sometimes a player will take more reasonable deal a year early in exchange for more financial stability and less risk for them. The Eagles would not be competing with anyone at this point. As a player (like Kendricks) gets closer to free agency, he is less likely to accept a reasonable deal (from the team’s perspective) and more likely to risk injury and see what offers he can get in free agency.
Just look at Maclin. The Eagles couldn’t lock him up long term early, he got to free agency, and someone paid him more than the Eagles offered. You pay them early so you don’t have to compete with other teams in free agency to keep your own good players.
74 anon said at 2:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
makes me wonder what kind of deal they offered Maclin prior to last year’s season.
75 MattE said at 2:30 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I thought i read the $7-$8 mill region, which seemed very reasonable for Maclin coming off injury and with Cooper at $5mill
76 sonofdman said at 4:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yeah, they definitely tried to low ball Maclin to get him to sign a long term deal, as he was coming off an injury, but Maclin took a chance that he wouldn’t get hurt again and would play well and he cashed in.
77 Nick C said at 1:38 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Don’t think that’s true. He just rewarded barwin and extensions should happen after the draft. No rush on cox though, we have a 5th year option on him.
78 GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
its domo, grain of salt that…
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chip would have to be dumb not to get deals done early, thats how you get them to take slightly less for some security a year or two sooner.. If you know Cox is a franchise piece which he obviously is, you try to get the deal done when it favors us the most, and that would probably mean asap…
79 76mustang said at 1:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Ali Marpet vs (guess who) combine measurables
Ht: 6’4″ vs 6’5″
Wt: 307 vs 304
40yd dash: 4.98 vs 4.92
Bench Press: 30 vs 35
Vertical Jump: 30.5 vs 35.5
Broad Jump: 108 vs 117
3 Cone: 7.33 vs 7.39
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.47 vs 4.16
The guess who player was drafted by the Carolina Panthers in Round 3 with the 79th overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft…oh, and has Drew Rosenhaus as his agent…
80 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Evan Mathis ^^
81 CrackSammich said at 2:18 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Can’t be. Not possible. .
82 ACViking said at 1:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Re: All in for the New U
What college turned from a sleepy backwater of a football program to a national power in the past 10 years?
Oregon of course.
What college turns out more players than anyone else (on the Eagles, at least)?
Oregon, right?
So . . . what school should now be called “The U”?
Right again. OREGON.
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Since you mentioned “The U,” let’s talk about —
Just going all in on Mariota this year . . . then use the next couple drafts to really stock up.
Kelly can find a safety somewhere, right?
(Seriously, there’s only about 5-6 in the entire United States who are really good. The rest are lesser evils. So one of the lesser evils will fill the second safety spot)
What about the soon-to-be two holes in the O-line?
Well . . . what QB would be better than Mariota at scrambling away from defenders coming through the A-gaps?
In a year or so, those holes will be filled with quality beef.
WRs?
With Kelly’s scheme, he gets WRs open — even the likes of Jeff Maehl.
Heck, Maehl was a record setting WR at “The U”.
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Go for “The U” all the all the way.
83 anon said at 1:57 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Interesting. Both Mariotta and Sanchez are good at throwing on the move. But the guard spot seems to be pretty important in the zone running scheme
84 ACViking said at 2:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
with a QB nearly as cat-quick as the LeSean “Tipper” McCoy, I think Kelly can scheme around the problem in Y-1.
By next year . . . fughetaboutit. (Any of the 5 uses described by Donnie Brasco may apply)
85 eagleyankfan said at 3:08 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Sanchez is good at throwing on the run? Just stop it already….
86 anon said at 3:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Are you saying he’s not good on the run or not good at throwing period. I’d almost say he’s better throwing on the move than he is from the pocket.
87 eagleyankfan said at 3:13 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’m saying — if Sanchez was good at anything he’d be a starter somewhere. Sanchez is ok as a back up. And that’s about it…
88 eagleyankfan said at 3:08 PM on March 24th, 2015:
If you’re going all in to get Mariota — you’re using future draft pics to get him. So — how can you use future pics you don’t have to stock up?
89 ACViking said at 3:22 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I don’t think I mentioned future picks.
90 eagleyankfan said at 3:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
“then use the next couple drafts to really stock up.”
91 ACViking said at 3:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I didn’t mean to suggest trading futures for Mariota.
Find a way to get him and keep the future picks (save 2016-No.2) available for long-term fermentation.
92 ACViking said at 1:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Re: All in for the New U
What college turned from a sleepy backwater of a football program to a national power in the past 10 years?
Oregon of course.
What college turns out more players than anyone else (on the Eagles, at least)?
Oregon, right?
So . . . what school should now be called “The U”?
Right again. OREGON.
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Since you mentioned “The U,” let’s talk about —
Just going all in on Mariota this year . . . then use the next couple drafts to really stock up.
Kelly can find a safety somewhere, right?
(Seriously, there’s only about 5-6 in the entire United States who are really good. The rest are lesser evils. So one of the lesser evils will fill the second safety spot)
What about the soon-to-be two holes in the O-line?
Well . . . what QB would be better than Mariota at scrambling away from defenders coming through the A-gaps?
In a year or so, those holes will be filled with quality beef.
WRs?
With Kelly’s scheme, he gets WRs open — even the likes of Jeff Maehl.
Heck, Maehl was a record setting WR at “The U”.
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Go for “The U” all the all the way.
93 ACViking said at 2:04 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Draft-days lock (including RFA signing)?
Nick Marshall.
The guy’s money in the bank if a book in LV will cover the odds of him being an Eagles after the draft’s over.
Seriously, money in the bank.
94 anon said at 2:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Read he was suspended for pot –why do you love him?
95 b3nz0z said at 2:10 PM on March 24th, 2015:
maybe he was smoking pot because you don’t love him
96 Insomniac said at 2:37 PM on March 24th, 2015:
He probably had to smoke pot since Coates can’t catch the deep ball so it hurt his draft stock as a QB.
97 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:23 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would love him as a late round flier – think he could be a really good CB. I honestly worry a little that he is the kinda player that Seattle drafts and in 2 years time he starts to play and in 4 years will be probowler that we pay $18mil a year to play CB for us….
98 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:23 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I would love him as a late round flier – think he could be a really good CB. I honestly worry a little that he is the kinda player that Seattle drafts and in 2 years time he starts to play and in 4 years will be probowler that we pay $18mil a year to play CB for us….
99 NinjaP said at 2:36 PM on March 24th, 2015:
As what a corner?
100 ACViking said at 3:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Position: Athlete.
Good size.
Brad Smith-type, I think.
Marshall can play anywhere on the edge.
And be the RZ wildcat QB.
Didn’t know he was caught being a dope smoker.
101 RobNE said at 3:22 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Brad Smith type – can play all over, but no where particularly well?
102 ACViking said at 3:49 PM on March 24th, 2015:
A Kelly-special.
Like making a really good sandwich from leftovers.
103 RobNE said at 3:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I don’t like cold sandwiches or leftovers.
104 sonofdman said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Blasphemy!
105 RogerPodacter said at 5:52 PM on March 24th, 2015:
not even pizza?! you’re not human!
106 GEAGLE said at 3:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
did a single franchise sign another teams RFA to an offer sheet this year? so tired of this BS collusion to make RFA non existent…
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should be aggressively trying to sign some RFA’s, poaching quality away from other teams…
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it really bothers me that every team practically ignores this opportunity to try and improve their roster.. we should have signed Tashuan Gipson to an offer sheet weeks ago and if the browns wanted to get us back and try to sign Ced Thornton to an offer sheet, so be it…
107 anon said at 3:49 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Charles Clay (MIA to BUF). Problem is you have to overpay for a sort of marginal player.
I’d have liked to get that guy out of oakland (the WR)
108 GEAGLE said at 5:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
was he an RFA guy? Id be happy to hear that at least 1 franchise is trying to do it….. we are sitting here looking at another year of safety questions and one of the rising safety stars in this league is an RFA, on the Browns, a team that already has some serious coin invested in the secondary.. i hate that we arent trying to get this kid, especially when we are talking about DYSFUNCTIONAL FRONT OFFICE as it gets… love to see what the Browns would do… They have a top young safety and they are just taking their sweet ol time on an extension, we should have POUNCED!!!… with how hard it has been for us to get safeties, Id rather Pay Gipson, hand over some 2nd round pick to the Browns, rather then piss away a 5th round pick on another average young safety that wont solve our problems
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Thats THE LAST position I have any faith in us finding a 5th round stud
109 anon said at 6:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Think Chip wants to keep those high picks in his holster for now. Plus what you’d have to pay Gibson to move him would be more than what we’d be able to pay right now.
Defense would be crazy though. Almost too good. Offense might be on the field too much, they could get too tired, sanchez could throw too many picks, etc.
110 ACViking said at 3:51 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Teams value those uncertainty that comes with draft picks, and the cheap contracts they buy, over the certainty of proven, expensive talent.
George Allen, where are you?
111 NinjaP said at 8:03 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I don’t think it’s collusion I think it’s just that the system in place makes the team that owns said RFA extremely likely to keep him. Which should be the point of an RFA. All should be guys that go back to their original teams.
112 anon said at 2:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
It’ll be interesting to see if Mac returns to an 800yd sort of player when he goes back to andy reid.
113 Javi Echie said at 2:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Well with Alex Smith at QB I am projecting more of 700 yards and 2 tds.
114 MattE said at 2:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
being a bit generous don’t you think?
115 Javi Echie said at 3:36 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I am being generous you’re right, in my head I am really thinking more of a 485 yards and 1 td. Even that 1 td is a stretch to happen.
116 GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on March 24th, 2015:
thinking Andy is going to take Hundley
117 Javi Echie said at 3:44 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I can definitely see that happening.
118 GEAGLE said at 3:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
just a gut feeling… think he would love to get Mariota, but it will be too expensive so Andy probably trades back a few spots and takes Hundley in round 1. andy loves those running QBs maybe even more then chip does lol
119 Insomniac said at 2:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
He’s playing against better secondaries now.
120 Frencheaglesfan said at 2:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I hope not, I love the guy and would love to see him succeed.
121 eagleyankfan said at 3:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’m not sure what is more weird to see — Mac in Red or our new RB in Green. Mac will be solid but not elite or close to his numbers from last year…
122 Frencheaglesfan said at 2:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’m all for drafting OL in the first rounds, Fisher + Marpet would be great. Plus we have “the franchise” to give them a superstar training and techniques, I bet that helped LJ improve so quickly.
123 Insomniac said at 2:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’d like him in the 3rd round but this depends on the first round pick (OL/CB/WR). There needs to be absolutely no one there in the 2nd round for me to consider him if we take OL in the first.
124 eagleyankfan said at 3:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Don’t forget safety… LOL … so many holes, so little time…
125 Insomniac said at 3:34 PM on March 24th, 2015:
There’s no good safeties worth pick 20 though lol.
126 GEAGLE said at 3:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
thats the problem!!!..
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funny I heard one of the local sports radio stations new comercial advertising draft coverage and it was “will the Eagles be able to get a safety with the 20th pick?”… LOL
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Thats your commercial? you dont need to be a draft Guru to know that the eagles wont want a Safety who gets picked on in coverage… i understand if one or two of your hosts dont know this, but for that to be your stations commercial? come on…. there are no safeties to draft at 20…
127 GEAGLE said at 3:29 PM on March 24th, 2015:
you will be happy if the Eagles spend a first round pick on a CB, knowing he probably wont see the field as a rookie? if so you are a better man then most fans…. we had 3 OLBs playing at a probowl level and we ripped our first round pick to shreds all year, when in reality everyone knew that he wouldnt play as a rook when we drafted him…cant imagine the nonsense if we draft a CB who wont play next year
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please spare me a year of fools ripping a first round pick because he isnt playing… A nice Guard or WR that will get plenty of playing time should shut people up…
128 mksp said at 3:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Best part of this Lurie PC is how often he’s had to repeat that the Eagles need to find a Franchise QB.
Do you guys remember the halcyon days of Nick Foles, Franchise QB?
129 ACViking said at 3:16 PM on March 24th, 2015:
MKSP:
Is Lurie really talking about finding a franchise QB?
130 mksp said at 3:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
975TheFanatic ‏@975TheFanatic 6m6 minutes ago
Lurie on what is important to building a winning team: Picking the right coach is big, getting a franchise QB is big, managing the cap too.
Will Brinson ‏@WillBrinson 7m7 minutes ago
Jeff Lurie: coming out of college Sam Bradford was the “best young QB” the Eagles scouted “Probably since Peyton Manning”
975TheFanatic ‏@975TheFanatic 8m8 minutes ago
Lurie: When Bradford was coming out of college, we thought he was the best young QB we had seen in a long time.
Eliot Shorr-Parks ‏@EliotShorrParks 10m10 minutes ago
Lurie says that Chip has watched Bradford “100’s” of time. Says the decision was well researched #Eagles
Eagles Insider ‏@EaglesInsider 18m18 minutes ago
Lurie: A franchise QB sets the ceiling for the team.
975TheFanatic ‏@975TheFanatic 18m18 minutes ago
Lurie: We are not interested in trying to be predictable in terms of player-personnel. You cannot be risk-averse.
Eliot Shorr-Parks ‏@EliotShorrParks 19m19 minutes ago
Lurie says Bradford is a gamble, but it’s so hard to get a franchise quarterback. #Eagles
975TheFanatic ‏@975TheFanatic 21m21 minutes ago
Lurie: What Chip did the first 2 yrs was adapting to what we had. But there was always the sense we didn’t have the players to maximize Chip
131 GermanEagle said at 3:49 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I really hope we will keep Sammie rather than using him as trade bait on draft day…!
132 ACViking said at 3:52 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Great report . . . thank you!!!
133 RobNE said at 4:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
boy he got the memo about talking Bradford up. Well, we wouldn’t even draft MM if he dropped to 20. No way. Move along, nothing to see here we are all set at QB.
134 GEAGLE said at 3:17 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Im not really interested in any of the free agent WR’s left, but what I dont get is why the WR’s that have to take 1yr prove it deals arent banging on the novacare door trying to get Chip to take them on for cheap?
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Desean, Mac, Shady, Coop… all career numbers in this offense, if I was a guy Like Crabtree, who no one wants and has to try and rebuild his value next year, I would be begging chip to let me play for him… after what Maclin did, WR’s that are struggling to get jobs should be offering to play for free lol to pad their stats in this offense in hopes that they can get paid next year…
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still holding out hope for a Cordarrell Patterson trade…
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so many talented young WRs that havent panned out, and lost value… wish we would trade for one and see if we can make the game easier for him in our offense… even the Rams busts like Tavon, Quick…
135 GEAGLE said at 3:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
First team in NFL history that lost a 1000 yard rusher, 1000 yard WR, and 2000 yard QB lol in the same offseason…..chip certainly cant be accused of not doing things his own way…
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one thing that really sucks, is usually teams that lose this type of quality get compensatory picks in return.. Ozzie Newsome is always losing nice talent, and loading up on Comp pics… we get none this year, and probably wont get any next year…
136 anon said at 3:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I wouldn’t judge Chip like that Ozzie has been GMing the Ravens for years, i see this more as a rebuilding / retooling situation than how chip plans to operate on an annual basis as gm.
137 GEAGLE said at 3:31 PM on March 24th, 2015:
im not judging chip… not saying his approach is bad or good. we havent gotten comp picks in years it feels like
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truth is, i havent got the slightest clue right now what his offense will look like next year…but he gave me a quality Defense so im happy until I see what his full offensive vision is
138 OregonDucker said at 3:41 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Offense is quite simple GE. Use a one cut Back to get the safeties to move up or take a step forward then burn ’em. Then mix in THE POPE and Huff in mismatches and Play-Action to eat up CBs and safeties. Keep the D on their heals and huffing. Keep hitting ’em HARD over and over again.
139 botto said at 3:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
that’s what i’m sayin!
140 GermanEagle said at 3:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I didn’t say anything…
141 GEAGLE said at 3:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
yeah I know that part,… i meant what the offensive roster looks like… My guess:
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OL: Lane, Fisher, Kelce, Grasu, Peters
backups: Barbre, Tobin, Garner,
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WR: Coop, Pope, Huff, Agholar, Ty Montgomery,Maehl..
TE: Celek, Ertz, Jesse James, Burton
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RB: Marco, Ryan, Sproles, Polk?
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wish we would sign a Big Raw WR to develop..dont really care which one, just grab one, start developing him, use him as a red zone weapon this year and get him ready to replace Cooper next year… DGB? Darren Waller? Funchess? whatever… I just want our 6-4-6’6 Monster WR weapon to start grooming…
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142 OregonDucker said at 4:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
GEagle, looks about what I would pick. Polk could be part of a trade deal to move up though. They could be looking to bring in a rookie RB instead.
I too see an OL like this one. Maybe Chip will add one more like Maripat. Can’t have enough good OL in the wings.
143 RobNE said at 4:02 PM on March 24th, 2015:
did you see my comment this morning, are your “sources” really the comments section in 24/7 and BGN? Tell me it’s more than that. Lie to me if you must.
144 OregonDucker said at 4:04 PM on March 24th, 2015:
No, their local folks I golf with weekly, plus a couple of folks back East.
145 RobNE said at 4:07 PM on March 24th, 2015:
ok but you lost some credibility citing a commenter. You can make it up to me though.
146 OregonDucker said at 4:08 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I already know your question and the answer is YES.
147 RobNE said at 4:10 PM on March 24th, 2015:
we can talk without words.
148 OregonDucker said at 4:11 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The real test is when the Titans and/or Raiders are on the clock. That’s when Chip reveals a thumbs UP or a thumbs DOWN.
149 RobNE said at 4:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I just don’t think either of those teams will take him. Nor that someone else will trade up for him. But if it costs an extra something (Boykin, lower pick) above and beyond, whatever. I don’t care.
150 GEAGLE said at 5:20 PM on March 24th, 2015:
We would be lucky if we could get a 6th for Polk. He has no “trade up” value. The best we could probably do is get a young talent in one of the new player for player trades we see in today’s NFL..
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Personally I will be sick if we lose him before seeing what he can do in a bigger role, but I have no idea what chip is planning to do with him. I hope to keep him, but i don’t know how ok chip is with keeping 4RBs, but we lost a few good ST players and Polk is a ST MONSTER In various roles so I hope he is safe, but if understand if he didn’t want to keep 4 backs
151 anon said at 5:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yeah that BB trade with the jets is looking more and more like rape. I’d want out of that organization too, trade a 4 for BB, trade your 2015 no. 1 for Watkins when you have no QB.
152 RobNE said at 3:57 PM on March 24th, 2015:
and when they bite on the run, MM runs around the end and slides after 11 yards.
153 botto said at 3:44 PM on March 24th, 2015:
we lost a dancing rb on a downward slope that made too many negative plays, a WR to a over priced market for money, and a qb that was injured for half the games last year….
154 anon said at 3:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
an we got 2 guys that didn’t play last year. and two running backs w/ injury histories
155 botto said at 3:52 PM on March 24th, 2015:
a running back with no injuries isn’t running hard enough
156 GEAGLE said at 4:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
im not judging it one way or another… Maclin is the only loss i really cared about anyway…. just found it interesting that it took til 2015 for this to have ever happened before
157 botto said at 4:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
right that’s true. I agree wish we didn’t lose maclin, it sucks!
158 GEAGLE said at 4:05 PM on March 24th, 2015:
they dont call him big balls chip for nothing… Keeping Maclin I think would have made the draft much easier, and I think fans would be perfectly ok with everything that happened if Mac was still here… but to need two Guards and two WRs, i understand why fans are a little worried..
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personally i think Chip is obsessed with offense, and I wont ever worry about his offense going into a season. I think the only way we will ever see a bad chip offense is if we get ravaged by injuries..
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it would be like Rex Ryan going into a season with a horrible defense.. i dont think we would ever see that happen, and I dont think Chip will ever be ok with average offense,. scoring less then 30 is like the end of the world for chip. I trust that by the time we have to play in september, his offense will be fine…
159 mksp said at 4:04 PM on March 24th, 2015:
My favorite thing about you this week is how okay you suddenly are with the Nick Foles trade.
As if you didn’t post ad nauseum about how only “donkeys” thought he wouldn’t be the QB next year.
Gift that keeps on giving.
160 James said at 6:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
#bipolar
161 b3nz0z said at 3:28 PM on March 24th, 2015:
if the giants draft amari cooper to go with Odell, we are going to need an actual, literal eagle flying around to bolster the secondary
162 Alistair Middlemiss said at 3:30 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Still have Eli throwing the ball – he always gives you a chance. But yes if they draft Cooper/White to go with Odell and Cruz they would have prehaps the best WR core in NFL history.
163 b3nz0z said at 3:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
especially when you remember that their OC isn’t the same crappy one we are used to
164 GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
i will fear them when they get an OL
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I would fear them more if they drafted Brandon Sherf instead of Amari
165 laeagle said at 8:47 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Randle is no slouch either. But all they’ll be catching is slants on 2 step drops because Eli won’t have time for anything else. Should be easy to defend.
166 Avery Greene said at 3:30 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Right now I’m thinking of a falconer on the sideline pointing the eagle where to go, and using ball-hawking skills to knock down passes.
167 b3nz0z said at 3:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
as long as his talons don’t deflate the ball
168 Avery Greene said at 3:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Wow, don’t give Belichik new ideas.
169 laeagle said at 8:46 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I think you mean an eagler.
170 GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
i hope they do draft him….. they arent good enough in the trenches, I hope they spend their picks not addressing the LOS…. they can have all the WRs they want, everyone knows what happens to Eli once you start to batter him…they have some nice pieces in place, hopefully they dont build an Elite OL, because that could really make them tough
171 botto said at 3:42 PM on March 24th, 2015:
sounds similar to what everyone was saying about dallas last year, they can’t do this or that because they suck etc…
the giants will be tough this year, no matter how crappy the o-line is we will not sack them every play so something’s going to give.
172 GEAGLE said at 4:07 PM on March 24th, 2015:
we shut them out last year….
173 botto said at 4:24 PM on March 24th, 2015:
the giants yes last year.
but we all talked about how crappy dallas was going to be and they weren’t, similar to saying the giants will suck for not having an oline.
they will be good
174 GEAGLE said at 5:03 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Is that what I said? Or am I really just saying I prefer that they improve their WR position instead of the trenches? They have to spend their first Round pick on something I would much rather they go WR instead of trenches. If you haven’t noticed the front 7 is the strength of our team since we can’t say run game without knowing what our OL will look like. Why would I want them to spend a first round pick on a player that will provide resistance to the strength of our team? Like every other QB, if you beat Eli up he will start to suck. Look at the two Cowboys game last year. We gave romo the beating of his life on thanksgiving and he was atrocious… They protected him much better in the re match and we lost…. We swept the Giants last year, they were weak In the trenches and haven’t significantly upgraded it, while I know our young beasts will be even better then they were last year…
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So again, hopefully they do spend a top 12’pick on a WR, rather see them get a WR, then to add top Olineman like Sherf
175 botto said at 5:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I see what you are saying, makes sense.
176 GEAGLE said at 5:15 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Fundamentally I feel like nothing matters if you aren’t good enough in the trenches. Say what we will about Dallas but atleast they invested some first Round picks on their line. I don’t know WTF the Giants are doing, they haven’t had an OL in years and it’s like they have no urgency to build a good one, I don’t get it..
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But truthfully, I expect the Giants to be a much tougher team next year. Last year they added 27 new players. I knew you can’t bring that many new players together and have success right away. Now that those new players have a year of gelling they should be much tougher. Hopefully our DL can keep dominating those Giant match ups…
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But when the Giants build a top OL, you can bet an Amari/ODB tandem would make me nervous…
177 bsuperfi said at 5:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The question for me is do you need to be more than good enough in the trenches. Chip may think a dominating o line is the key to success. Maybe it can be, but are the big time squads dominating up front? It seems to me that it’s not always the case, partially because there are Qbs like Rogers and Brady who can still play great anyway.
I guess part of the answer is related to scheme. Some schemes may emphasize o line play over others. But how long has it been since we’ve seen teams with the best o lines consistently at the top?
if the Giants bulk up on wr, hopefully their o line isn’t even good enough.
178 GEAGLE said at 6:41 PM on March 24th, 2015:
i dont think we can find a top defense that doesnt have a bad ass DL…Pats/Seahawks had strong DL’s with terrors like Chandler Jones, Bennett, Avril. The Broncos had some beast attacking the line of scrimage like potroast, von Miller… the Niners teams that went deep into the playoffs had beastn DL’s…. so if we get to the playoffs and have any plans on advancing, we are probably going to have to overcome some really tough front 7’s… The Seahawks OL isnt highly regarded as a top 5 elite OL, but they are certainly good enough to run the ball against some elite Front 7’s and help keep Wilson from getting squashed like a bug…. our OL needs to be good enough to not only give our QB time, but keep him from getting killed… and probably no point in paying your RB’s a ton if they cant poen some holes against the top defensive fronts…. so maybe you dont have an elite Dominant OL, but at the very least you need a quality LT and Center, and you need 5 men with good chemistry that work together well..
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just look at next year, Buffalo Bills are coming to town. Thats one bad mother shut yo mouth, defense… Kyle Williams, Marcel Dareus, Mario Williams, Jon Jerry.. we aint getting past that defense with some average OL… Better have atleast close to a top 10 OL to open some running lanes for Demarco against that DL, and keep Mario Williams and Jerry from Killing Bradford
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I dont know that you need the best OL in the NFL like we had in 2013, but you need it to be good enough to allow you to compete against the top defensive fronts.. and if next years OL is good enough to run the ball against the Bills D, and give Bradford enough time to have success against Gilmore and that secondary…probably means your OL is going to be good enough to whoop on some of the average DL’s we face…
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The more dominant your OL is, the more room for error, WR’s, RB’s and QBs get… considering we are going with Bradford and a very young WR corp, we will probably need to make the OL and the run game really dominant, to make life as easy as possible on our QB and WR’s in their first year in these new roles on our offense
179 b3nz0z said at 3:51 PM on March 24th, 2015:
better separation and a quicker release = cleaner eli
180 NinjaP said at 8:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
How good can a team be when their only players that don’t suck are a pair of receivers?
181 b3nz0z said at 10:48 AM on March 25th, 2015:
the more important question is “how do the eagles match up against a team with three elite wideouts?”
182 NinjaP said at 11:07 PM on March 25th, 2015:
Well when said team doesn’t have an OLine and we shut them out last year. Probably rather well.
183 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I don’t know about you guys but I hope our rivals continue to improve like we do. NFC West is a great example of what a competitive division brings to the teams.
184 b3nz0z said at 3:50 PM on March 24th, 2015:
NE is a great example of building a competitor without that
185 GermanEagle said at 3:57 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Exactly! I hope Dallas, NYG and the Redskins will ALWAYS SUCK!!!
186 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
True about NE. Though I would hate that they suck. It is so less fun to crush the lolskins than to destroy the cowgirls or gmen. Football is fun if it’s a close hard fight.
187 RobNE said at 4:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
really? The giants shutout was a lot of fun for me. And the Bears game the year before.
188 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
well I would definitely put the thanksgiving win over the boys as the best game of last season close with indianapolis win.
189 A_T_G said at 4:03 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I want you both to be right. I want the other teams to be much better than they are, and still to crush them all in a manner that none of the games are competitive in the second half.
190 RobNE said at 4:03 PM on March 24th, 2015:
do you prefer a nice close game and then shake hands afterwards or do you want to crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentations of their women?
191 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:07 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I guess it will depend. If we are playing the cards or the pats I will hope to crush them, if it’s the packers or chiefs I would be good with a close game. But it’s more to say that I want to see toughness and competitiveness. I do like to crush my enemies but I want to crush a man not a 7 yo girl. It’s a fine balance between domination and classy fight.
192 Tumtum said at 4:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I mean in a perfect world I want a close,knock down, drag out fight, of a game. Obviously I would win at the end.
Having played a sport highly competitively pretty much at the highest level in the world for years, the only games I really remember were the games I lost and the games that I should have lost. I also remember winning a championship on the bench… Essentially the only things I remember are bad or so sweet because they easily could of gone bad.
I want sweet victory. Easy victory makes me feel like the sacrifice wasn’t worth it.
193 A_T_G said at 4:14 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Will you share which sport?
194 Tumtum said at 4:24 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Sure.. just… people have the wrong idea… oh whatever lol.. paintball. The professional leagues I played were PSP and NPPL if you are curious and unaware what it is like. If you don’t already know what those are I am pretty sure your perception will be very off. Might have caught us on TV too… before the economy fell off I thought I might make a living out of it…
195 A_T_G said at 4:55 PM on March 24th, 2015:
No judging here. I have played casually, and have learned how big of an impact skill and coordination can have, through the bruises I wore home.
Besides, if any one makes fun you can stick a bag of paintballs in th freezer and then we will go find them.
196 Tumtum said at 4:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Haha thanks dude.
197 RobNE said at 4:23 PM on March 24th, 2015:
you’d rather be a Pats fan last SB than a Seahawks fan watching the year before? I’ll take the Seahawks win every time. When I get bored of that, maybe I’ll mix in a close one.
198 Tumtum said at 4:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yeah I would honestly.
199 GEAGLE said at 4:43 PM on March 24th, 2015:
You are absoluteky right
200 the DONALD said at 4:52 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Curious, what sport did you play?… helps to scroll down ha thanks!
201 Tumtum said at 4:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
check response to ATG below)
202 RobNE said at 4:26 PM on March 24th, 2015:
no one is getting my movie reference?
203 Tumtum said at 4:51 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I thought it sounded like one. Can’t place it though.
204 RobNE said at 5:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Conan the Barbarian
205 laeagle said at 8:45 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Sorry I didn’t see this earlier. I was too busy looking for a guy who had a symbol. 2 snakes, coming together.
206 RobNE said at 8:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
thank you for the acknowledgment. I’d ask what dorm you were in but I can’t remember mine It was “old” not new though.
207 laeagle said at 9:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I was in Lyle, one of the new dorms. It might be torn down by now. Evidently “new” is a relative term these days. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go punch a camel.
208 Tumtum said at 4:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Early 2000 Eagles too for that matter. Don’t give me any ish that they didn’t win it. They had what it took to go deep every year. That means they had what it took to win it. Winning it isn’t as simple as being the best team.
209 b3nz0z said at 4:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
part of me always wonders if Big Red was just too nice and honest to beat someone like belichek. like Ned Stark versus the Lannisters
210 RobNE said at 4:27 PM on March 24th, 2015:
no he wasn’t good enough
211 Insomniac said at 4:28 PM on March 24th, 2015:
And what is Chip then? Shit?
212 b3nz0z said at 4:36 PM on March 24th, 2015:
new
213 Tumtum said at 4:55 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I disagree. If you played the early 2000s over again on a simulator we probably win the superbowl once more often than not. We were a ball bounce away. Just my thinking.
Could of inserting a different coach or QB or RB or… whatever of locked us in for 4 SB.. sure… just saying we had what we needed then. Just didn’t happen. Being the best coach, team, player, GM, WHATEVER just doesn’t lock it up for you. IMO anyway.
I chalk us not getting one up to “shit happens”
214 RobNE said at 5:30 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Andy was good enough, but I’m frustrated by getting beaten by teams we could have beaten. I’m not looking for an argument. They certainly could have won.
215 unhinged said at 5:31 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Two things I remember: DMAC holding the ball forever, and our D’s dependence on the blitz, which never worked out against elite QB’s. Reid’s teams were overachievers when you consider how predictable he and his team was.
216 GEAGLE said at 4:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I think if Chip was here, we may have had a Super Bowl. Nothing against andy, but I’d like to think “big balls chip” would have really tried to go all in to get over the hump… See what he is doing his first year as a GM, No rolling over cap money into next season, seemed pretty AGGRESIVE in free agency with his ambitious target haul of Byron, McCourty, Mac, Franklin… I’d like to think if chip got as close as andy did, he really would have pushed his chips to the center of the table and really take a shot at it…. What did andy really do to get over the hump? He finally added a WR, got TO, and the dream lasted one season…
217 botto said at 3:53 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I hate when the giants, redskins and cowboys are even remotely good.
and it doesn’t matter all the games in the division are tough no matter what.
let them suck forever…..
218 RobNE said at 3:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
it brings away games in the playoffs. And extra rounds too.
219 mksp said at 4:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I agree. I enjoy good football. Don’t want half the season to be throw away games.
We’re FANS guys! That means we should all be rooting for the NFC East to be great again. Good football is good football.
220 RobNE said at 4:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
no no no. SB is the goal. Do you not see how NE gets a bye every freakin year? It’s not b/c the AFC East is so good.
You cannot convince me I should want the NFCE to be strong. Only my team.
The next time I hear a Pats fans say what they really want is more losses against the Jets, Bills and Dolphins will be the first time.
221 Guest said at 9:19 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Look at the Colts. One and done in the playoffs every year, but they’re guaranteed a spot because of how awful their division is.
Perhaps they’d be better against good teams if they had more practice against them…
222 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Or if they had B&B.
223 anon said at 10:34 PM on March 24th, 2015:
“One and done in the playoffs every year” ?
Didnt they go to AFC Championship last year? Year before that they beat KC.
224 BlindChow said at 10:59 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Damn, maybe I was thinking of the Bengals?
225 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 4:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
get me the first Lombardi, then go for style points. i dont care if eags win 3 playoff games against 3rd string qbs, and you can see hundo’s falling out of refs pants. after that, sure, i’ll start grading on a sliding scale
226 RobNE said at 4:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I agree with this entirely. I don’t care if we get injury breaks, ref bad calls, etc. That is part of the game.
227 GEAGLE said at 4:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
you think the Bills, dolphins and Jets would agree? lol
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but i hear you.. I do prefer the division being tougher, as long as we reign supreme of course..
228 Raul Estrada said at 4:08 PM on March 24th, 2015:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000474004/article/combine-star-ali-marpet-wants-to-be-picked-by-new-york-giants
229 RobNE said at 4:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
oh well I guess that settles it. So if MM says he wants to be picked by the Eagles, hahaha too bad for the titans etc.
230 Raul Estrada said at 4:15 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Funny how he compares himself to Kelce, but wants to play for the Giants? This would be the perfect fit for him.
231 Tumtum said at 4:16 PM on March 24th, 2015:
He is dead to me.
232 Greg Richards said at 4:53 PM on March 24th, 2015:
So he’s off the draft board due to character concerns.
233 GermanEagle said at 5:17 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Fuck him.
234 Raul Estrada said at 4:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I have a weird feeling that Peters will be traded to get either one of them.
235 Alistair Middlemiss said at 4:32 PM on March 24th, 2015:
would make no sense – his contract and age mean you would struggle to get any value for him – and he is your franchise LT, who is still dominant.
236 Raul Estrada said at 4:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I know. That’s why I got that weird feeling.
237 Insomniac said at 4:38 PM on March 24th, 2015:
If that happened, I hope Lurie would trade Chip to Oakland.
238 Raul Estrada said at 4:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
And trade Cooper to Alabaster, Alabama
239 Bert's Bells said at 6:23 PM on March 24th, 2015:
If you get a first rounder or early second for Peters -as great as he is -jump on it. Odds of him having more than 2 seasons of awesome left in him are slim.
240 b3nz0z said at 4:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
wonder how this will affect the no huddle: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/24/new-injury-timeout-rule-would-give-spotters-significant-power/#comment-4131479
241 Raul Estrada said at 4:43 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Let’s just call it what it is: More commercial breaks
242 Greg Richards said at 5:01 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Looking at Lurie’s PC, it seems as if he was pretty straight-up and wasn’t trying to protect anyone. Said that Kelly wanted his own football guy, wanted his own style RB. He also said that Gamble’s firing had nothing to do with the Kelly/Roseman dynamic. Add to that the report that Kelly knew he couldn’t “save” Gamble. It sounds to me like he got fired not for how he and Roseman interacted, or his track record as an evaluator but for something that had nothing to do with football. A “human resources” type issue. Just speculating, but I wonder if McCloughlan’s influence rubbed off on him too much in SF.
243 unhinged said at 5:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Mysteries lend themselves to speculation. When I read that Gamble was escorted out of the NovaCare Complex, that cannot be SOP for football front offices. What did Tommy do? I’v got to check out the press conference, but I don’t expect to have that question answered.
244 Greg Richards said at 5:12 PM on March 24th, 2015:
It is actually standard operating procedure for a lot of football teams and businesses in general to have security escort out fired executives to ensure they don’t take any intellectual property out with them. Former scout John Middlekauf said on twitter that the Eagles did the same thing with him when he was let go.
245 Bert's Bells said at 6:21 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yeah, I’d be shocked if it wasn’t standard for pro-sports teams.
246 Alistair Middlemiss said at 6:16 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The theory i have always had is that Gamble was ‘cultivating’ press relationships by giving out information, as he was getting so many fluff pieces and positive spins comparing him to be much better than Howie. Now some of all that may have been true, but it was always the same reporters and the last 2 years there has been a lot more information getting out of the Novacare than we were used to before he joined.
Has just been my personal opinion.
247 GEAGLE said at 5:25 PM on March 24th, 2015:
lol REX Ryan is the man.. he called Bryce Brown, “the fast dude” and says he’s “not going to learn his name until he holds on to the football”….LOL
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Casey Mathews visiting the vikings
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Skins ARENT sure if they want to excersize the 5th yr option on RG3… What a bust
248 Greg Richards said at 5:35 PM on March 24th, 2015:
A little FA activity today:
Bears sign DE Ray McDonald, DE Jarvis Jenkins, ILB Mason Foster
Vikings sign S/LB Taylor Mays
Jets sign OT Corey Hilliard, DE Stephen Bowen
Texans re-sign ILB Akeem Dent
249 anon said at 5:49 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Free agent LB Casey Matthews visited the Vikings on Tuesday.Cowboys. Did nate allen even have a visit when we dropped him last year?
250 Insomniac said at 6:54 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Casey Matthews leaving Philly is the real reason why we had to trade for Kiko. Gotta have a white Oregon ILB on the team or else.
251 wee2424 said at 7:37 PM on March 24th, 2015:
See!!!! Chip is a racist!!!!!
252 SuPaFrO said at 10:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Kiko is white? !?!
253 GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on March 24th, 2015:
feel like whenever people start to doubt chip, and ridicule him for what looks like a dumb move, chip reveals the next part of the plan and he ends up looking not so crazy..
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when it comes to the OL, i highly doubt chip is going to skimp us at that position. With the RB’s we loaded up on, and a fragile QB, this man isnt stupid. He knows an OL will be more important than ever… I imagine he was sick to his stomach last year watching the OL mess so bad there were games we could barely get 3 yards per carry.. Think Chip already forgot being on the goal line in crucial moments, losing, because he was too afraid to call a run play with Molk getting Knocked into Foles lap as soon as he snapped the ball?…
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Cant wait to see this draft. Chip seemed to go buckwild in free agency now that Howie took the cap shackles off, cant wait to see how Wild chip gets during the draft. When it comes to the OL, i bet we come out of the draft smelling like roses with some type of Power move like:
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Trade back to like #26 and Draft Oregon G/T Jake Fisher, and get an extra 3rd round pick that he uses to get Hironiss Grasu, and after ripping chip for getting rid of the guards, he uses 1 pick to get both the high level OLineman from Oregon. That one move would give us:
1)Next years starting Guards
2) High Level Backup for Kelce which is crucial
3) The RT of the future with
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people can say we might have reached for Jake, but wont be able to complain about the Value we got in return for our 1st round pick… Fat chance we will ever be able to get OL that dont have to worry about playing at our tempo…
Ill be pretty surprised if the Oregon guards dont become Eagles
254 A_T_G said at 6:36 PM on March 24th, 2015:
” feel like whenever people start to doubt chip, and ridicule him for what looks like a dumb move, chip reveals the next part of the plan and he ends up looking not so crazy..”
I agree it is funny that…people act that way.
…….
I am glad you liked the idea of trading back in the first and using the ammo to pick both Fisher and Grasu. I thought that worked out pretty well in the mock I posted a few hours ago.
255 anon said at 6:37 PM on March 24th, 2015:
hahahaha too funny.
256 GEAGLE said at 6:43 PM on March 24th, 2015:
LOL you think I copied your mock? LOL!!!!!!!! you think i notice your mock? LOL inferiority complexes are . you been a little too trashy as of late….. nice interacting with you brah
257 A_T_G said at 6:46 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I can’t imagine you stop posting long enough to notice much of anything.
258 A Roy said at 9:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
He probably has calluses on his fingertips in addition to his palms.
259 GermanEagle said at 7:29 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Time for your pills, mate.
260 Greg Richards said at 7:09 PM on March 24th, 2015:
To be fair, GEagle has been touting Fisher and Grasu and Eagles potentially taking them for quite a while.
261 mksp said at 8:24 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Yes, quite an impressive feat of logic by GEAGLE, to link two well-regarded offensive linemen formerly coached by Chip Kelly to a team currently coached by Chip Kelly that had an aging, and now incomplete, offensive line.
Kudos, GEAGLE! Kudos.
262 RobNE said at 8:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
I’ve been linking Kelly to MM. I’m not sure how I came up with the idea, but I’m just an out of the box thinker. Where are my kudos.
263 mksp said at 9:36 PM on March 24th, 2015:
KUDOS TO ALL
264 D3FB said at 11:06 PM on March 24th, 2015:
To be fair he’s also heavily touted:
Danny Shelton
Eric Kendricks
Shaq Thompson
Benardik McKinney
Jordan Phillips
Bud Dupree
Arik Armstead
DGB
Trae Waynes
Jalen Collins
Todd Gurley
Dante Fowler
to name a few
Because he’s talked about all these players enough for people to remember that he talked about them if he proclaims his great genius and foresight, but not enough that if we don’t take one people don’t laugh at him for being an ass like what happened with his ridiculous FA claims.
Picking a name out of a hat and ranting for a week doesn’t make it an informed opinion.
265 CrackSammich said at 11:22 PM on March 24th, 2015:
By the time the draft comes along, he’ll have plugged just about every single player of interest, just so that he can tell us how right he was all along.
266 SuPaFrO said at 10:40 PM on March 24th, 2015:
For some reason i wouldn’t leave out still getting Fisher/ Grasu with the 1/2 round picks. If kelly wants his guys he won’t care of the value. Hopefully he has a better understanding of value of the rookies.
267 Greg Richards said at 7:11 PM on March 24th, 2015:
The Vikings signed Casey Matthews. Thus far, we’ve signed 4 UFAs(Murray, Maxwell, Mathews, and Thurmond) and lost 4 UFAs(Maclin, Allen, Fletcher, Matthews). So if we don’t sign anymore UFAs and Brad Smith signs with another team before the June 1st cutoff day there’s a chance that we’d qualify for a comp pick next year dependent on the contracts Smith and Matthews sign for and if they make the 53-man roster of their new teams. It’d be a 7th round comp pick in all likelihood though.
268 anon said at 7:16 PM on March 24th, 2015:
We could get a pick for Smith? If you sign players to a 1-yr deal and they leave are you still eligible for compensation or does it have to be home grown players?
269 NinjaP said at 7:17 PM on March 24th, 2015:
If they become free agents and leave your team they apply. Players that get cut however do not count.
270 D3FB said at 10:22 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Brad Smith came on during the 2013 season.
271 Anders said at 6:14 AM on March 25th, 2015:
any FA you lose is eligible for compensation. That means next year the Pats are eligible for both Revis and Bowner
272 MattE said at 7:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
So what did everyone think of the interview?
273 MattE said at 7:56 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Not risk adverse.
274 MattE said at 8:00 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Also, is long snapper not the best job in the NFL besides backup QB? Jon Dorenbos is the man lol.
275 daveH said at 9:33 PM on March 24th, 2015:
HOBART.
HOBART LAX !!
276 Wilbert M. said at 10:22 PM on March 24th, 2015:
Why is DeMeco Ryans still on the roster?