Maxwell, Gore Reportedly Coming to Philly
Posted: March 8th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 505 Comments »Nothing is official until Tuesday. But…
Free-agent RB Frank Gore has told people he will sign this week with the Philadelphia Eagles, league sources told me and @caplannfl.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 8, 2015
I can confirm via a source. RT @JaysonBraddock Byron Maxwell deal is done, will become an Eagle Tuesday w/ $25 mil guaranteed
— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) March 8, 2015
I just got off the phone with CB Byron Maxwell. Maxwell told me directly, "I'm going to Philly." #Eagles
— Josina Anderson (@JosinaAnderson) March 8, 2015
I like both moves.
Some people think the Eagles are nuts for going after Gore. He’s going to turn 32. He’s got a ton of carries in his past and that wear & tear will show up at some point.
But Gore hasn’t declined to this point. He runs for more than 1,000 yards just about every year. In the last 5 years, LeSean McCoy has started 72 games. Gore has started 74. He’s got one of those freak bodies that isn’t on the standard timetable. Most RBs hit 30 and the decline is obvious.
Gore also has real value as a teammate and locker room presence. I’m sure that isn’t lost on Kelly and is part of the attraction to him.
Gore is getting more money than I anticipated at $5M per year. I was hoping he’d be down in the $3 to $4M range. Still, this is half of the cap charge that Shady was going to be prior to his trade.
A few of you have asked about Maxwell and why he’s different from Nnadmi Asomugha. They are very different players. That doesn’t guarantee Maxwell will pan out as hoped, but they are different. Asomugha was an older player coming from a terrible organization. He wasn’t an ideal fit for how they wanted to use him. Does that sound at all like Maxwell?
Maxwell is in his prime. He has played in the last 2 Super Bowls. He is versatile, in that he can play the slot or outside. Maxwell is a perfect fit for the style of defense the Eagles want to play. This isn’t a square peg into a round hole.
We also can’t obsess on the fact Nnamdi didn’t pan out. Troy Vincent was a free agent signing and turned out to be a phenomenal Eagle. Asante Samuel was good for a few years. You can’t let one bad signing scare you off FA forever.
Are we paying Maxwell too much? Yes. But it had to be done. Sometimes in life you have to overpay. You can’t afford to shop around and hope. You have to suck it up and write a check for an obscene amount. This is due to the failure of Curtis Marsh, Trevard Lindley, Bradley Fletcher and Cary Williams. If the Eagles had one really strong corner, they could build around him. Instead, they had to go buy that player.
Maxwell is an above average CB, but he’s not an elite player. Jimmy Bama has a good post on Maxwell.
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Who do #Eagles have an interest in pairing with Byron Maxwell? Green Bay #Packers Tramon Williams, per source.
— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) March 8, 2015
This would make perfect sense. Williams is older CB who can help develop Jaylen Watkins and/or a rookie. He would be a short term fix to buy them time to get a replacement ready.
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OL Orlando Franklin is headed to San Diego. The Eagles will have to go elsewhere to fill the hole at RG.
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Old friend Dan Graziano says the Eagles and Giants could battle it out for FS Devin McCourty.
I covet McCourty, but I’m still not sure if the Eagles do. There is a lot of buzz about him and the Eagles. Could just be his agent saying that. I hope it’s legit and they do go after him.
Re McCourty, multiple sources indicate the #Eagles have made a strong push to be in position to sign him. Considering fallback options, too.
— Rand Getlin (@Rand_Getlin) March 8, 2015
Fingers crossed.
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Dan Graziano @DanGrazianoESPN 18s18 seconds ago
RT @tomecurran: it seems a very good bet Pats will retain either Revis or McCourty and a pretty good bet they keep both.
Dont like this
Better than him going to NYG
So we STILL don’t have a Safety, no #1 receiver, and no starting QB.
https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/574695506540019712
if they get mccourty id be so damn hyped!! the defense would have serious potential!!
In terms of money, i would attack McCourty first, but in terms of need, sign with Maxwell is the right move.
And we have to bring some top rusher before sign with McCourty too (need again).
Pressure on QB can compensate lack of talent on secondary.
But so far, so good.
“Pressure on QB can compensate lack of talent on secondary”
Or not. F.e. the 2014 Philadelphia Eagles. 😉
You’re right, we shouldn’t take a good pass rush for granted. But I’d sign McCourty over a OLB in a heartbeat. I want to fix this secondary for the next few years.
Can’t have both still need pass rush and a guard. No market for b.grizzled he might be back.
McCourty would be amazing, but I dont see him signing here. I think our next option is Rahim Moore. He was coached in DEN by our new DB coach so you would think that if he covets Moore, we will certainly get him. If not Moore, hopefully Searcy will be up there too.
I like Culliver more than House or Williams for the other CB hole we have.
if they covet him they wouldnt be going hard at mccourty. they covet mccourty.
Of course they covet McCourty… They arent stupid enough not to have a plan B… C… D…
They covet Revis more. But who knows the mind of Belichick?
why is that more likely then the DB coach NOT liking Rahim? maybe informs chip he is a lazy practice player? maybe he informs him he misses a bunch of offseason days hanging out in the training room after stubbing his big toe? maybe the DB coach thinks he is a selfish player
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why is familiarity always an assume “positive”.. His DB coach couold just as likely get Rahim Moore removed as a target altogether because of his familiarity,,,
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But, i wouldnt be upset if Rahim was signed…. McCourty, Searcy, Rahim, or Gilchrist and Im busting out the Johnny walker Blue.. it is sunday night after all
Maybe he tells us that Moore is very indecisive when shopping for decorative wall lighting and may miss practice time whilst determining which best match his decor.
The DB coach could steer him away completely with his familiarity, totally right; thats the beauty of having him coached him. So say if McCourty gets his deal worked out with NE, if we start to hear that we are trying to sign Searcy or Parker etc, we know there is no chance we go after Moore.
Now that we have that information we can gain more information on Chip and his ideal players accounting for Measurable’s, Character, Performance and try to link up the best players available to the Eagles.
absolutely… i think its always an advantage to have coaches who know the players we are considering.. not so much because of gameday, but knowing their habits the other 6 days of the week… whether we have inside knowledge that a player is better then we think, or whether we have inside knowledge to steer away from a kid, its always a valuable resource.. heck I wish every important decision we have to makee, we have someone on our staff who knows that kid through experience… things would be easier if we had that advantage about every player we consider adding… it works both ways, but knowing both is still valuable to a franchise… actually it may even be more valuable to steer us away from a potential 3-5year mistake..
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wish we had inside info that Coop was going to suck…oh wait, lol nevermind…
“Jeff Stoutland knows JaMEs CarpeNTer from Bama so he’s totally going to be the guy… and because he played for STOUTlanD he cAN play in our scheme guyz, he’s TotallY goinG to be ………. the GUy wE get, IDGAF if he’s fat and slow, he’s STONGgGG”
-GEAGLE
“DonT say JUst cuz a COacH knoWs a guy he will be a tarGet, maybe the coach sEcreTlY HATEZ HIM!!!!!!!!!, y u sO StuPIdz”
-GEAGLE
Take this one with a grain of salt but:
Jon and Sean Show
@JonandSeanShow
4m4 minutes ago
Hearing from a source close to #Eagles, Maclin & Sanchez are coming back. Announcement of new the deals should come at some point tonight.
Yay on Mac! Do not want Sanchez.
Yeah, we need a confirmation but they are not fake.
I like Gore, but not Gores money. I would like to have Sanchez back, but I really hope the money is right. He’s the best FA QB available, but that doesn’t mean he’s worth a fortune.
i expect that to happen…. be more excited if we werent talking about sean Braise as a source, but Ill take it where i can get it…
lol exactly. Maybe a whole salt shaker then.
you wanna know the difference between Nnamdi and Max?
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Nnamdi gained half of his top ranked status being hidden in Oakland. started to get a reputation that QBs wouldnt throw at him.
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Maxwell is the opposite, good CB who played on a secondary so good that he was probably the weak link of the bunch so opponents couldnt just avoid throwing at Maxwell.. he didnt grow into a top corner having that going for him like Nnamdi did…. Max reputation is earned off team throwing at him, and him answering the bell….. if we have to pay big money for a CB, do it for one that is absolutely battle tested at the highest level.
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want another difference? one was a pussy, the other actually likes to get dirty…sure everyone can guess which is which…. ..
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One wants to be in single high, locked up man to man on the outside, safety help be damned… the other was a veteran who liked to point at the young safeties every time his man caught a pass..
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not that similar huh?
spot on
Word is he got owned by Dez in Seattle. Have not done my homework on this yet so not sure of validity.
Thought I had read something the other day that said the exact opposite. Can’t remember now.
patrick Peterson was owned all year…. would you turn down the chance to pay to add him?,, im sure Dez will get the better of ev every corner at some point…. then again. i dont care to defend Maxwell, just dont want Nnamdi’s name even associated with him,.,.painful memories..
Richard Sherman approves your Peterson message.
4 receptions on 10 targets for 63 yards.
ill gladly take Dez OWNING him twice a year if thats the definition
Good research. Thanks.
Maxwell went down injured late 2nd quarter, and they swapped Sherman to cover Dez, so the 4/10 63 yards is a combined stat. Not sure what Maxwells individual stats were.
Caught one pass for 11 yards before Maxwell went down per the play-by-play:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=400554305&period=0
My favorite thing about Gore and Maxwell… two tough players, from tough locker rooms.. and the NFC west teams are a tad bit weaker having poached them away… so when we have to go thru seattle, not only did we improve with this move, we made them weaker… NFC west is a problem these days… like adding players from those teams… Niners were a band of scumbags, but Gore was the heart and toughness of that locker room for a while…two moves Made us tougher team…. cant be upset about that… I share Toms sentiments about being surprised with Gores price Tag, but hard to complain about saving 6mil from what we had to give shady… 6mil a year you can get a good player for that
https://twitter.com/Earl_Thomas/status/574695715567484929
Imagine bolstering D with maxwell, mccourty and kiko prior to this. Would you sacrifice Maclin for better balance on team? I don’t want him to walk but if they land mccourty it would soften the blow. I’d be happy with rahim Moore also. Want a decent safety bad to pair with Jenkins.
What’s a fair value for Worilds?
Dumerville signed a 4 year deal worth $26 million last year that came with $8.5 million guaranteed.
Paul Kruger signed a 5 year deal worth $40 million.
KJ Wright signed a 4 year deal worth $27 million.
Conner Barwin is actually the 10 highest paid 3-4 OLB in the NFL.
I think market value puts him around 8/yr.
KJ is an ILB
Sheard please.
no way should worlids make more then Barwin, and i dont even care about the changes in Market since Barwin signed,.. If they are going to pay him more then Barwin, then id like to see them do the right thing and give Barwin a new deal that reflects him being a GODSEND of a signing,
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curious to see what HOuston and Jerry get
All of these deals but wright ( who plays a different position) were on lower caps and u heard the dude might creep up to 10 mil and I have no interest at that price
If the pats can keep Revis and McCourty there won’t be any excuse for the Eagles to not retain Maclin and sign at least another playmaker on D.
Revis and McCourty are the top 3 at their positions. Maclin isn’t in the top 10 at his.
I was coming from a money / salary cap point of view…
forget the losing Mac… not going to happen no matter who we sign or dont…Mac, Meco, celek are adopted ducks, If chip wants you, you will be here. Think that has been made clear by now..
ummm….
Greg Hardy? Fuck culture that DL will be so amazing with Hardy.
lol could you imagine all the questions chip would have to answer about “culture”, after he has been tellling our media for two years how important it is. i would be so entertained to watch the bombardment of culture questions that they will throw at chip over and over..
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whoever gets that dude…let me guess, one of the usual scumbags like the Bengals… I assume they will be getting a serous Talent at a discount price… is it possible that someone pays him fair price after his suspension or whatever we want to call it? i have no idea what to think of the type of contract he will end up getting
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hopefully jerry jones doesnt capitalize on this
He should be in jail and was already convicted by judge before he bribed his way out of a crime.
No thanks.
Ugh, no. There’s #culture and then there’s “not signing complete scumbag, tosspot, waste-of-oxygen, Grade A douchenozzles”.
No to Hardy. All of the no.
Kiko Alonso. Grade A moron but also talented.
He straightened up I believe. Hardy beat someone just last year didn’t he?
Hardy’s guilty of rather more than moronosity.
Innocent until proven otherwise.
Dude, he was found guilty then paid the victim a bunch of money not to testify at the appeal. He’s scum. Avoid.
I’m not saying that he isn’t a scumbag but you weren’t there. “Paid off” could be running away from losing the trial and living in scrutiny for the rest of her life.
Where’s this Kiko Alonso is a moron stuff coming from?
DUI/Criminal mischief issues in college.
Right, known issues when he was a kid, but has supposedly learned his lesson.
He’s not unintelligent based on reports. Was just a dumb kid.
Agreed, but that’s what they are referencing.
Sounds like it’s going to be the 6 year, $63M deal reported earlier, before the 5 year, $53-54M report. Still $25M guaranteed. Last year’s salary is $11M. So that’s $52M over 5 which is a little better. Seems like essentially a pay as you go contract around $10M a year. Probably $25M guaranteed in first 3 years which have $32M in total compensation. After that, he can probably be cut without penalty. Perhaps a small dead money hit if part of his guaranteed money is in the form of a SB.
Source, my friend?
Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun. RavensInsider on twitter.
who are we talking about? Max?
Yes.
Ja.
Aaron Wilson @RavensInsider 22m22 minutes ago
Byron Maxwell six-yr. $63M Eagles deal: $25M guaranteed, $13.5M 1st year, $22M through 2 yrs, $32M through 3, $42M through 4, $52M through 5
Any idea how long the guarantees last?
wow. That’s a little ridiculous. He’s not worth that much.
Idc, I’m not the one writing the checks.
GET THEM ALL!
Or…CUT them all! I kid I kid..
chip already sharpened his battle AXe
lol. I know. And everyone should be scared!!!
@D3FB,
If you had to choose, Mac or Mc?
McCourty in a heartbeat.
McCourty.
At WR you can manufacture production to a degree. Additionally we spread the ball around in this offense, so I’d rather have a bunch of 2’s and 3’s types at WR than one good but not great WR making big money. It’s also a much deeper position both insofar as talent currently in the league as well as talent in the draft. There isn’t a single S in this draft class I feel is likely to become part of a teams core group of players.
thank you, sir. Your assessment mirrors my honest and humble opinion.
I won’t complain if we get both though.
Don’t tell that to the Maclin lovers who want to pay him 12mil.
I’m ok with paying Maclin 10mil a season. Seems about right in the current market. More than that would be excessive. Regardless, I’d want it to be a team friendly, we can cut bait two to three years from now if he declines, type deal.
Cooper’s contract structure for more money.
positional scarcity means McCourty easily
I’m happy with the signings, but concerned how Gore will take to Chips conditioning by and practice regiment. Will he be able to handle Saturday practices and be able to play well on Sunday? Hope we get McCourty.
He’s over 30. Under Reid he would have gotten every second day off…
Already excited for the Gore Revitalised By Sportsing Science: “I feel like I’m 22, not 32” stories this summer.
So how many hours before we hear about Mac’s new contract???
Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet
1m
1 minute ago
QB Mark Sanchez is heading back to the #Eagles, source said
Supports Sean and John rumor. Hopefully that means Maclin is back too.
I don’t mind Sanchize backing up Folezzzzz. #cough cough
Need to see money but if Mariota comes, Sanchez makes a ton of sense even if it’s Foles he still makes sense really
sanchez is a top 3 NFL backup… he makes sense if you have Tom Brady or Jameis Winston..
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awesome move locking him up! basically insurance that if Foles gets hurt, we dont have to piss away our season,… Hype that its a 2 year deal so we dont have to worry about this again next summer…. Just waiting on the Maclin Domino and one of the top 4 safeties….. throw in virgil green and i sleep like a baby tonight!
Not thrilled with Sanchez but he’s easily the best available. There’s nothing in the QB market this year and whether we draft someone or continue with Foles, Sanchez gives Kelly a security blanket in that he knows what he’s getting. He’s not getting much, but it’s better than any of the other dreck available this season.
Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
1m
1 minute ago
Mark Sanchez back to the Eagles on a 2-year deal worth $9m with $5.5m guaranteed, per source.
That’s bridge QB money. Deal worth maximum of $16M so I’d guess it’s incentive based if he starts.
I could punch a kitten.
are you a friend of kempsky?
I’m shamed by my failure to get the reference. Is he anti-feline?
He compared the loss of Jackson with the comparable production of a Cleveland reciever. I pointed out to him that Cleveland sucked, so what was his point? He replied that my comment caused him to punch his cat.
right, ugh
I guess I was close with my prediction then.
How can I bet money again?
Way too much $$
Way too much Sanchez 🙁
Why do you keep deliberately misspelling Sanchize?
I’m going to need two McCourtys, at least one Maclin and a Worilds to make up for this news.
Or have ‘Allas sign Nate. Whatever.
$1 is too much
You only pay Mark Sanchez that much money if….
…wait for it…..
…..you’re trading Nick Foles in a package to move up to #1 to draft Marcus Mariota…..
Mark becomes a tradable asset next offseason.
Half the fans would be ecstatic if that happened, the other half we’d need to talk off the ledge.
Jesus fucking christ, 4,5 million pr. year for a fucking backup QB.
That’s the norm these days. It’s not Madden my friend!
No, its not the norm. go down the list: http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
Matt Schaub was brought in to start or at least challenge big for it. So was Cassel, McCown, Henne, Matt Moore, Fitzpatrick. You’re already way below 4.5/year
Mark is better than all of them and when thinking enjoy cap adjustments they’re all making around the same
Thank you. Sir.
It did us exactly fuck all that Mark Sanchez is better than some of the worst QBs in the NFL, he still wasn’t good and we didn’t make the playoffs. Not entirely his fault, but he wasn’t without fault either. The simple fact is, your QB goes down? Either you were fucked to begin with because you didn’t have a real QB, or you’re fucked now, because a backup QB won’t win you the Super Bowl.
He’s a frigging backup QB ffs.
You’re the one arguing that he is important enough to warrant getting paid a big check. If he should have been given a big check, then he should be a guy we believed could help us reach our goals. Do you think Mark Sanchez can win us a Super Bowl?
Your situation with Mark Sanchez as your backup if your starter goes down: Pretty screwed
Your situation with my grandmother as your backup if your starter goes down: Definitely screwed, but at least you had 4 mil of capspace to spend somewhere else.
Oh, and lets not forget, if he actually gets on the field, he’ll probably get closer to that max value of 16 mil, not the real value around 9 mil
If you don’t wanna spend 4.5 million / year for a proven backup QB like Sanchez, you would you have rather signed for less money?
Any backup QB willing to sign for between the veteran minimum and IMO, around 1,5 mil pr. year. Maybe I’ll raise that to 2-2,5 since the salary cap just got raised. Because it doesn’t matter, if your QB goes down you’re fucked. And I makes literally no difference to me if we start Sanchez or Matt Barkley because our starting QB goes down with an ACL tear in the pre season. Sure Sanchez will win us more games, but I have 100 % confidence that no team will win the Super Bowl with Mark Sanchez at QB. Why on earth should i care about being better, but still not the best with a QB who won’t develop and cost a shitton.
The obvious dilemma is, what happens if your star QB goes down for a couple of games? Obviously Sanchez gives you a better chance to steal a game, than say Barkley, but is that worth 4,5 million pr. year to you? I’d throw that at another position, and probably a starter.
EDIT: I have no issue with bringing Mark Sanchez back, i have a huge issue with signing him to that big of a contract. Its not about Sanchez, its about throwing money at a position that doesn’t matter.
Backup QB does matter. When was the last time an Eagles starting Quarter back has started all the 16 games???
McNabb, and I forget what year, but it’s been a long while.
Actually, he helped get us to 10 wins despite the fact that our starting qb missed half the season. Most years that would get you in the playoffs, this year it didn’t.
Which one of those have ever led their team to the playoffs, or better yet, actually won playoff games?’
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you are paying for the fact that if Foles gets hurt, our season doesnt go down the toilet… all these moves that make us better next year so we can contend are foolish if we dont have a high caliber backup…. sanchez is a sucky starter, but he is as good of a backup as we can hope for…and im sure he will be a little better building on the continuity and experience he got last year…i would expect a better QB for a veteran in year 2 of a scheme
Well, Cassel did play on two different team that got 10 wins. Schaub did bring the Texans to the play-offs a few years ago. Also, how many teams did Mark Sanchez lead to the Playoffs? The Jets with their dominant fucking Rex defense and strong running game? Please, if anything he was the reason they wasn’t better.
A strong backup QB is fine and dandy, but not when he is paid like a low end starter for multiple years. 1 year, sure, were saving money on Foles. Imagine Foles actually being our QB and him getting a huge deal, all of the sudden you have 4,5 mil tied up in your fucking backup QB, who might be good, but lets just be honest. if your QB goes down for the season, you aint winning the bowl.
Josh McCown got a 3-year, $14M contract. Similar situation. Sanchez will in all likeliness start until whoever we draft is ready.
Fitzpatrick signed a 2 year, $7.625M deal with $4M guaranteed. He ended up starting but I don’t think that was the plan when he was signed.
Cassel signed a 2 year, $10.5M contract with Minnesota that had $5.65M guaranteed. Bridge QB to rookie starter.
These deals were pretty obviously the precedents that laid the foundation for Sanchez’s deal.
The common thing in all those situations is that rookies are/where the supposed competion, meaning that even if the those guys lost the job, the other QB would be paid next to nothing. If the Foles wins the Job, he gets paid, and we now have 2 expensive QBs on the roster. Oh, and QBs just happen to be the most expensive players in the NFL.
If we somehow deal for Mariota, it would make more sense, but then why did we sign a 27 year old CB, if Mariota doesn’t mean win now, but rebuild?
That depends on your and more importantly Chip’s evaluation of Mariota and how quickly he can be a force in the league.
Only 2 options:
1. Mariota isn’t pro-ready: We obviously give up Foles to get him. Nice that Sanchez is here to push him and take some starting pressure of, maybe have Mariota learn on the bench. No problem with that, but why did we sign Maxwell, why not really rebuild if thats the case? In that case let me see what Watkins and Boykin got? Why not deal Mathis and Peters?
2. Mariota is pro-ready and we’re going for the Super Bowl: Let Mariota play and do what Luck did. there will be some growing pains, but you hitch your wagon to your young QB. If Mariota goes down, Sanchez sure as shit isn’t gonna allow us to compete, and if anyone thinks that he will, they vastly overestimate the rest of our team.
Jeff Garcia got $5 million to be a backup. 9 years ago.
He had the advantage of not being terrible though.
He was an over-the-hill 36 year old. Playing with his 4th team in 4 years.
Yes, but he could still write “not Mark Sanchez” on his CV, which is always a good selling point.
#BringFieryBack
He played well for a backup. And that’s the rate for good backup QBs.
He’s not gonna be a back-up Game 1…..
Only thing worse than having Mark Sanchez as an expensive backup QB, is having him be your starter.
I like the idea I wish it was like 2 mil less but I’m fine with it
yup… Foles, Sanchez and Barkley all back is starting to come together nicely 🙂
Some (foolish) people seem to think the exact opposite by making room for Mariota.
yea yea yea… i know what the silly talk is
Mate, I admire your passion, but I would like to give you an honest advice. Prepare for the unexpected n
lol ok pal
why do you always lol people who got a serious point!
Not silly at this point. I am on the record as being pro-Foles or at least not approving of the hyperbole position that anti-Folesites are that he’s the next Brad Goebel. Look at the tea leaves though. Sanchez is getting better than average backup QB money. He has incentives based on starting. That’s bridge QB money. Outside chance that Foles stays and competes to be bridge QB to someone besides Mariota(I’ve given up all hope with Barkley), but targeting Mariota is the most likely scenario. I think to think otherwise at this point is to be in denial.
ok… smh…. you will learn that throughout chips career, he will prioritize backup and pay for it, no matter if our starter is tom brady or geno smith… drink the mariota kool aid… just dont bash the crap out of foles when false expectations dont turn out to be true… its not chips fault that the mnedia brainwashed and misled everyone… surprised more people havent learned yet after going thru the last two offseason… but whatever, another months and this will all be shut down..
I think it’s silly to assume Kelly’s not targeting Mariota at this point. What is a legitimate question and issue is whether the Eagles have the ammunition to get him and whether they are willing to pay the price. I suspect Kelly is more willing to overspend than many fans, especially Geagle, would approve, but I also suspect it still won’t be enough. Can’t wait til the draft and we can stop arguing 😀
Damn Chip. Really? Come on. I get you need two QBs. And Sanchez is at least not one losing you games where you have clearly more talent. On the other hand, like with any other back-up QB, you won’t win games against good opponents. Is the not sucking enough to lose against bad teams really enough to pay 4.5m per year?
Who you rather have as a backup? Locker? Grayson? Ponder?
I know it’s a bad market. You don’t need to tell me that. But 4.5m for the skills Sanchez brings to the table? I don’t like it. If you give me Locker or Ponder for 2m, I’d prefer that. Even tough Sanchez is the better player, it’s too much money.
Hell, I think Barkley for his rookie wage would be the better option than Sanchez for 4.5.
Hundley?
You have to give up a 2nd and probably a 4th or trade up to get him though,
That’s a lot better than a bunch of firsts though.
I’d take Locker’s upside over Sanchez’ known deficiencies. Only thing Sanchez has over Locker is durability. In a backup QB that’s big, but I really don’t wanna watch Sanchez miss a wide open receivers over and over again on posts and flags down the field.
this ruins all the goodwill for today
This also gives us a pretty good indication that Kelly doesn’t expect Barkley to ever amount to anything. He’s entering his third season in the system and still isn’t trusted to do more than run the scout team. I’m not quick to write people off, but this is pretty damning.
Not sure it’s consolation when we learn a player wasn’t worth a pick.
obviously need CBs but not a fan of paying Cadillac price for a high end Chevy.
Vincent was acknowledged as an elite CB when they signed him. Ditto Samuel.
Maxwell strikes me as a Brown or Taylor type instead.
This team would go deep in the playoffs with Brown type CBs.
I do miss Sheldon Brown..
I do miss Sheldon Brown..
Sheldon Brown doesn’t miss!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86lPitQ06lw
When I saw this hit live I was standing up screaming like a little girl!
I was making comments about Kim K feeling the hit as well.
Reggie Bush still doesn’t remember this day.
Still a fumble.
He’s coaching high school kids. Chip needs to make a phone call to him.
Andre Johnson? Age doesn’t matter if productive.
If no Mac, I will take some Andre!
The only thing that turns me off is I always have to think of Andre from the series The League when I hear his name. Lol n
Pair him up with Bro lo el Cunado, I mean Sanchez.
Or with Taco. At least he knows how to shave your pubes.
A physical WR? Yes please.
Are you #puttingyourCoateson?
I tried to, but then Coates dropped it.
He probably just slammed you to the ground like that db from Texas(?) that tried to tackle him.
Could you clarify? Everybody from Texas is a d-bag.
Did you see the clip of Coates slamming the cb who tried to tackle him? YouTube “Sammie Coates throws him to the ground.”
Too bad he doesn’t play RB.
If you toss him a screen, its almost the same thing. He has a problem with long balls, not the shorties.
Maybe we should convert him to safety 😛
Sea change if they sign Johnson and let maclin walk. Maybe the Eagles think that will their conditioning program that they can get decent production and value of FA veterans in their 30s.
Understand the Gore signing but going into a season with two aging Rbs and a guy who never stays healthy seems pretty ill advised especially in an offense predicated on the run.
If you were relying on one 32-year old, sure. They’ll split carries with Polk backing them up. I think they’ll draft a RB too.
WR/RB is deep this year unless we trade for Maryotaa then we’re screwed at those positions,
Paying Sanchez this much would REALLY make sense if the Eagles were targeting Hundley in Round 1. Cause he probably does need a redshirt year.
I’d expect Mariota to start right away to be honest.
I dont think 4.5 million is really that out of line for a good backup QB these days
I’m not enough of a draft guy to discuss the relative merits of each but from the perspective of draft stock, we could probably trade down and get Hundley at the end of Round 1. I always prefer as many draft picks as possible.
Its certainly possible. But its also one of those situation where you don’t want to tempt fate if Hundley is your guy.
Under this scenario, one can assume that Foles has been traded for picks as well.
And really, re-signing Sanchez helps the market for Foles as well, as that is one less competent QB on the market.
How does Sanchez’s signing affect the number of competent QBs not the market?
Because he is by definition a “competent QB.”
Would you rather have Jake Locker?
I don’t think we’re working off the same set of definitions.
I’m keeping an eye on Chicago. They’re in an awful situation with Cutler. The coaches don’t seem to want him and he’s a cancer there. However he has a huge salary for this season that is already guaranteed. But if he’s on the roster at a certain point next week then a huge chunk of his 2016 salary becomes guaranteed. if they did decide to cut him, then a guy like Foles still on his rookie salary would be attractive as they’d still be paying for Cutler on their cap.
Lol 7th pick or gtfo
MKSP:
“don’t tempt fate”
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Hundley’s no “poor man’s” Mariota.
If Kelly wants him . . . I’m with you. GET HIM.
Yeah, these type of decisions are too important to risk reaching for any sort of incremental value. If you like the guy and think he can be your franchise QB, draft him at #20 and go home happy.
We already saw what happened when Andy & Co. tried to “time* Russell Wilson perfectly.
Unless Kelly thinks another year in the system turns Sanchez into a top-tier QB . . . then he seems to be back as the intended #2 (incentives say otherwise).
Kelly’s put some key pieces in place to stop the hemorrhaging on defense, and with Gore, have that N-S running game he wants.
And . . . Kelly’s been silent about Nick Foles since saying, “need to look at the film.”
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BELICHICK . . .
When do the coaches review the past season’s film to grade the players? Seems like that should have occurred — since guys are getting cut loose.
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Do these moves *reasonably* point to Kelly making a play for a different #1 QB?
Seems to me, the silence on Foles invites these kinds of questions.
Coaches have an ongoing grade and they touch up that before exit interviews. I’m sure they review them as a staff immediately following the season.
The month or so after the season, before they get fully into draft prep are used for more macro views such as scheme, playcalling, and how a player fits into the long term plans.
The scouting department (both pro personnel and college) also watch tape of the team. You can’t improve what you already have if you don’t know what you currently have. This is also done throughout as well as in the immediate aftermath of the season.
Fantastic.
I may start cataloging your longer comments.
Piece by piece, you’re laying out team operations in multiple areas, player-performance standards, and block-and-tackle info.
Belongs in a central location. Gold standard material.
Hundley’s a role of the dice who may never be ready. He’s got talent, but his lack of pocket sense is extremely disturbing. He doesn’t have Mariota’s familiarity with the system either. Not sure if Mariota would start right out of the gate, but I’d expect him to be starting by game 4ish at latest.
ucla ran a lot of the same plays. check the chip wagon article. i think we get mariota but hundley has experience
Yes, but Mariota’s familiar with how Chip runs things from play calling to system. UCLA doesn’t share that and never will. Just not as high on Hundley as some (looking at you, Tyler).
So apparently Mac and Sanchize are staying with a additions of Max and Gore…this is awesome, sign McCourty and this is a wrap for me
Sheard
I want him more than and OLB but with everything else I don’t know if we could afford him
He won’t cost top top dollar.
I want him but if we get Mac, McCourty, Gore and Max with Mark I don’t know if we can fit him
We got room, yo.
I guess we’re leaving out Maclin then.
Are the Eagles going ‘big game hunting’ for McCourty and Mariotta in the draft?
Ok, I’m dense . . .
What exactly is Rosenthal saying?
All of the Eagles OBs combined make 1/2 what Cutler makes
Sanchez was re-signed in case you missed it
ICD:
I did. Thanks for clearing this up
Just checking back after a couple hours away
Question: Justin Houston very unhappy in KC. With his tag, the Eagles would have to give up 2 first round picks, and pay him (prob. $15M/yr. with $25M guaranteed). So, would you rather use the picks to secure MM, or use the picks to secure JH?
Keep in mind, with MM you get 4 to 5 years of rookie wage scale (albeit likely top 2 slot), and you’d likely surrender add’l picks. If you add JH and keep Foles, you have to pay him and whomever else you want to keep next year – though you can jettison Meco this year, Cooper and Celek next year, and can restructure Peters for additional room…Houston is a beast…
Leave Houston alone it’s crazy to give up first rounders for the right to pay a non QB 15 mil
Mariota and it’s not close. I love Houston, he’s my favorite free agent this year, but he’d be much more expensive and a potential great QB is still worth more than a great OLB.
at this point OLB is scaring me more than safety. We have no “Predator” on the roster right now unless you count Braman and Long.
Does the suggestion we sign Greg Hardy count; or are you not counting those types of predators?
Is Aaron Hernandez still available?
For dating purposes inside prison perhaps.
lol i love barwin
im surprised he’s not advocating for brooks reed
We have to trade Kendricks away as part of the Mariota deal before Brooks Reed fits here.
See what happens when we leave extra solar panels laying around the Linc?
Sanchez’ contract is less than what Josh McCown and Matt Cassell signed for. And it’s on par with what Mike Vick, Chad Henne, Fitzpatrick, and Gabbert got to be backup QBs. .
Don’t let facts get in the way of the narrative!
We are all Mariotta Truthers!
People freaking out about the cap hit don’t realize that with the new cap, that’s going to be the going rate for back up QBs
Throw in Foles making about 78 cents this year and you still have a very cheap cap hit on QB.
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OLD. Decrepit. Social Security! EARLY BIRD SPECIAL
Break out the Metamucil Smoothie….
best of the day!
That’s the Kaepernick effect. Don’t expect the same sort of split with Foles under center. But another QB?
McCoy had a similar split in 2013, I think.
I don’t know what it was in 2014, one way or the other.
Adam Schefter is reporting Mark Sanchez is coming to Philly for 2 years, $16mil. If true, that’s just gross.
That’s with incentives it’s really 2 for 9
only %5.5M guaranteed
$5.5
Eagles veteran RB Frank Gore is rumored to be put off by how much impressionable second-year LB Marcus Smith has been avoiding him. “It started when Smith was supposed to cover him,” said one teammate, “he gives Frank a wide berth.”
http://t.co/v8B148D7y3
Lane and Peters putting Graham on his butt would be refreshing to see for the ones still bitter about Earl Thomas.
Awesome if that gets us McCourty
That would suggest the MM deal is done………….
Possibly. No one knows. I did take note of Winston visiting TB so early. Seemed to me like maybe they had some type of deadline to decide if they wanted to use the #1 pick on Winston or do something else with it.
They already let him talk to the media in TB, posted it on the website, must be best smoke screen ever.
I think the Jets / Titans trades must be done, notice Jets not moving heaven and earth for a QB.
I don’t see how you make that trade without knowing for sure that TB is taking Winston.
fait accompli. in my eyes. Look at all of CK’s other QBs, they’ve been trash in pro offenses.
He never had anyone near Mariota’s talent level before.
understood, but if i’m another team that’s my thinking as to why i don’t want mariota. National Title and Rose Bowl games w/ no ones.
The Jets are looking at Ryan Mallett apparently. Wouldn’t preclude Foles going there, but I can’t see them having Geno, Foles AND Mallett.
Geno was a second round pick, they can cut him no problem, think they are looking for a Foles backup. Isn’t Mallet staying in TX? Who is their QB?
Petty after they trade back into the first round with New England at pick 32.
Because signings like Gore and possibly Williams are ones you would make when you are not planning to contend next year? (and you will not contend with Mariotta as QB however highly you rate him)
I don’t think we’re signing Williams and I think we can compete with Mariota if they go that direction
Part of the rookie learning curve is getting to know the system and your coach. MM would be vastly ahead of other rookies. By the time he plays 16 regular season games he should have a good feeling for game speed.
probably more familiar with the concepts than Nicky Stix. We need that Andre Johnson though, i’ let mac walk for fucking around for so long.
https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/status/574717912738566144
WHERE’s YOUR SOURCES ON THIS?!?!?!
A simple “yes” will do.
(Have thoroughly enjoyed the film noir quality you’ve added to this whole line of conversation . . . but for the missing femme fatale)
I’m just waiting for this Mac contract then I’m done for the day
JLC thinks we’ll land Maxwell, McCourty, and Worilds
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25098968/dolphins-spend-for-suh-but-will-there-be-any-money-left-for-tannehill
I rip on him but he’s been right a few times lately
Don’t care for Worilds. I don’t think his pass rush abilities are going to match is contract.
Up Vote if it’s wrong to getting pissed drinking vodka / coke hoping that Mac will be re-signing with the Eagles tonight.
But only because it was fun to up vote.
Drinks on you, my friend!
Do martinis count?
That’s a little bit gay. But accepted.
vodka coke was my drink of choice back in the day — gross now.
How about martinis and PBR?
Pfft. I guess you’ve never heard of James Bond.
Sure.. The Germans always were the bad guys…
is this a german thing? vodka and coke, beverage type, doesnt sound very appetizing. now, other type of coke and vodka, yeah, that’s minimum.
Your assuming the coke he is referring to is a liquid?
No. It’s all I got at home.
I could see a three-team trade between the Eagles / Bucs / Titans happening. Eagles move up to #1, Bucs get a 4th or 5th for their trouble to move back to #2 and still get their guy (assuming Winston is their guy).
Titans get Foles & big package of picks to move from #2 to #20.
i think eagles jets titans.
Doesn’t work now unless you believe TB won’t take Mariota or trade their pick, you’d be better off doing that draft day
Think of the Bucs as Virgil Sollozzo
Seems to be the most plausible deal….
I don’t know about Tampa only getting that, but Foles would make sense as a guy Wis would like.
MKSP:
Would be the first deal of its kind in NFL draft history.
You make it sound doable.
I’m just a dreamer.
But you’re not the only one.
Why wouldn’t the Eagles just let the Buccaneers take Winston, and then trade with TEN?
Removing uncertainty prior to the draft / at the start of FA. I would expect this deal to happen in the next 3 days.
If it doesn’t, then yeah, you could do a draft day deal w/ TEN.
It seems like Tampa is pretty well set to take Winston.
I don’t see them selling the pick to move down at all for fear they would lose Winston, so I think pick 1 is pretty well locked in, assuming Jameis doesn’t buy a White Bronco…
Hypothetically though, if you make trade to #2 pre-draft, what do you do if TB shifts and takes Mariota instead? I want no part of Winston.
You wait to trade until Licht has assured you he’s taking Jameis.
And if he wants Mariota; the Eagles can’t get Mariota.
And Wis has never shown he’d like a Mariota type.
Jax is all set at QB
Oakland is all set at QB
Washington (Snyder) is married to RGKnee for another year.
Jets might take Mariota, but could want a guy that Arians will tell Bowles is ok to take.
Chicago (Adam Gase) doesn’t coach in the way Mariota plays.
Atlanta has Matt Ryan
Giants have Eli
Rams……………….that could be our target to move up.
Who would really value Mariota as much as us to really move up for him? I can’t find a team that is in the top 10 other than possibly the Rams.
I don’t think we need to overpay to go up that high.
And I agree 100% that you wait out Licht.
browns have 2 firsts and a backup
browns have 2 firsts and a backup
And an owner who has a love affair with Johnny Football.
I don’t think Foles would necessarily be part of package for move up and think you may be able to get a better return for him now as opposed to draft day. May have to take risk of moving him now without knowing you’ll get Mariota. Hundley as backup plan.
Once again, the second you trade Foles, anyone you want to trade with is going to say kiss my ass the price went up, enjoy Sanchez.
Why would Licht even have the slightest interest in telling Kelly what he plans to do? I’m not saying the Buccs are smart, but that would be really stupid. After all, the Buccs are in the NFC. But even if they’d be in the AFC, you don’t help other teams without gaining something out of it.
Licht wouldn’t have any reason to say anything. And he wouldn’t need to.
He could stay silent and still move down 1 spot for a 3rd (or 4th or fill-in-the-blank) knowing the Eagles are moving ahead of him.
All contingent on TB having settled on some player other than Mariota.
When would this happen? No clue.
He want us moving up for Marcus or the Saints?
I really respect you and your knowledge. But that doesn’t make any sense. The Saints are still in win now, they want to win it while Brees is still there.
There could be other teams wanting Mariota, even ready to trade up. No doubt. But the Panthers and the Falcons won’t, that’s for sure, and the + of the Saints not being able to trade up for Mariota if the Eagles do vs the cost of helping the Eagles (without gaining something out of that help) makes absolutely no sense for the Buccs, imo.
If we’d be talking about the Pats, I could see the friendship angle Belichick – Kelly. I still would bet a lot of money Belichick wouldn’t even hint to Kelly what his plans with the #1 overall are.
Just just lenny Williams. But then u must get a Qb with the next pick. Our go with Sanchez (dreadful )
Right, but Tampa has no risk. You promise to take Mariota and give them a 4th to move back a spot and they still get their guy.
Eagles do it to lock-in their guy. And you do it now because there’s a bigger market for Nick Foles, whether to TEN or re-routed.
That’s my fear mksp. If it’s Draft Day then we lose more picks. If it’s prior to FA, which is what I am hearing, then it’s better for the Eagles.
We just locked up Sanchez to 2 years. No question at this point that we’re dealing Foles to move up.
Or we are sticking with Foles and need a backup?
Seriously i understand we may trade for Mariotta but these moves so far this FA don’t say anything about that plan…..
Letting Maclin walk makes sense if you are blowing up the draft to take a rookie?
Not directly related to us but I’ve heard that Colts are front runners for Fairly if anyone cares
That actually could impact the Eagles . . .
Who do the Lions have left to play DT?
A pair of 30+ year-old guys in C.J. Mosley and Andre Fluellen, and rookie Caraun Reid (from Princeton).
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For a late 2nd Rd pick, Detroit could get young fast at DT and pick up a great run-stopper in Ced Thornton.
Is he worth a 2nd Rd pick?
BELICHICK . . . is it worth a late 2nd to Detroit to get Thornton?
Bad news: Maclin to Chiefs.
Chris Mortensen
@mortreport
3m3 minutes ago
The Eagles’ wild ride will continue: Jeremy Maclin plans to reunite with
Andy Reid in Kansas City once free agent market opens Tuesday.
woooooooooooow. Andre Johnson! Tamba Hali!!
Hey GEAGLE!
What happened to your “source”?
Thought you were “hearing” that he’d signing on Wednesday?
At least we can put your fantasy to bed at this point.
Wonder if they’ll remove Houston’s franchise tag. They’re probably losing Hudson to OAK.
Chris Mortensen @mortreport 2m2 minutes ago
The Eagles’ wild ride will continue: Jeremy Maclin plans to reunite with Andy Reid in Kansas City once free agent market opens Tuesday.
Bah that stinks.
https://twitter.com/mortreport/status/574729290744381440
I’m not touching him in fantasy
As expected,
GEAGLE: what happened to your boy?
lmao
Maclin going home to Missouri.
Good for him.
Man, dude’s been a fraud from Day 1, don’t know what’s up with some of y’all that think this guy’s got a clue…
Rules of Recency and Primacy at the same time.
Let’s discuss external WR options now that Maclin is gone
I fully expect them to run less 3 WR sets to compensate. More of Matthews outside, more 2 TE sets, more 2 RB sets. Huff might step in as #3. Draft is strong in WRs.
Ignore that for now and discuss what’s available
I’m gathering some thoughts. First choice would be Crabtree.
Chip will not pay big dollars for WR. He believes scheme makes for open WR. He will pay for QB and OL.
Ok . . . pay for a QB.
So is the deal going through?
Down the road Mariota will cost a bundle and be worth it. That’s the plan.
And no, I have not heard of ink on paper. Only that it is very, very close.
No! No! No!
The trade. What about the trade.
(That was very politic . . . answer an unasked question)
Yes!
Thank you.
Now I can rest.
so you say down the road, you mean for # 2 and not # 1?
Given the dollar value Kelly seems to have put on the WR position — and likewise the talent requirement . . .
Seems like the Eagles will wait to sign a FA wide-receiver until the market settles. Ravens-style.
Jeff Maehl just breathed a sigh of relief.
Another year with the Eagles. And he could be starting!!!
(I kid — abt the starting)
Crabtree
Andre Johnson
Andre Holmes
Stevie Johnson
The last 3 have size to beat man and catch balls in the RZ. All except AJ should be around $5m.
Trade for Desean? l o l
1. Michael Crabtree – Very good in 2012, then injured, not all the way back from injury last year, Kaepernick was horribly inaccurate. Kelly’s offense gets WRs big contracts so 1-year prove it deal will probably be attractive to him.
2. Andre Johnson – I personally am leery of bringing in too many older players but Kelly seems open to it. Wouldn’t trade for him as his salary is too big but if/when they release him, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s a target.
3. Cecil Shorts – Forgot him. Actually a nice fit. Recurring hamstring injuries a worry.
4. Denarius Moore – Flashed early in his career before his production declined but it’s hard to get a feel if that was due to his own decline or the dysfunction there
5. Leonard Hankerson – Started to break out in second season, was doing well his 3rd year before tearing his LCL, started out on PUP last year and when he came back the rotation was already established.
6. Stevie Johnson – expected to be cut, not high on him personally, but WRs coach Bicknell worked for Buffalo previously
7. Andre Holmes – Like him, think Oakland likely to match any offer sheet
8. Kenny Britt – Still only 26 years old, flashed at times last year, but QBs weren’t very good
9. Wes Welker/Eddie Royal – If Matthews moves outside, would they bring in smaller slot WR. I doubt it.
10. Hakeem Nicks – Towards end of last year started to show flashes of earlier abilities.
I’ll do more research on other names.
stevie j had a number of 1000 yd seasons in buffalo.
– Love him 2 or 3 years ago, now not so much.
Doubt it would ever happen but if you disregard character factors, from a pure scheme perspective Percy Harvin is a good fit. Think they’d like Huff to fill that type role though.
This offseason is so much fun.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
Kelly . . . the true emperor
Has there been a more exciting and entertaining time to be an Eagles fan?
Serious question, as you’d know better than I. And referring specifically to the Chip Kelly era.
Putting aside the disastrous 2011 FA splurge (true irony there) . . .
I’d say between ’72 – ’73 season . . .
The Eagles traded for Roman Gabriel in a blockbuster deal involving three 1st Rd picks plus All Pro WR Harold Jackson and FB Tony “TD Tony” Baker.
Then the Birds acquired Colts FB Norm Bulaich for a 2nd Rd pick. Bulaich had been the Colts #1 pick in 1970, the year they won the SB.
A few lesser trades were made, too, for Rams MLB Marlin McKeever and OLB Dean Halverson.
In the draft, the Eagles had 2 of the top 6 picks, selecting OT Jerry Sisemore from UTx and TE Charles Young for USC, plus C Guy Morriss, S Randy Logan, DE Will Wynn and CB Joe Bird Lavender.
The Birds had been terrible from ’62-’72. Same faces year after year.
That off-season was a huge breath of excitement.
GREAT answer.
If we trade up for Mariota, I’d have to think 2015 would at least be in the running.
Yes . . . If MM comes here, with all the subtractions already and additions that are forthcoming . . .
This off-season will move to the top.
The Common Denominator — a New, Exciting QB.
2011 off season, and 2004 season. They rank up there with this.
2nd best time . . .
1986 and Buddy Ryan’s arrival.
You had to read his post-practice comments during training camp because they were some of the funniest lines ever spoken.
Regrettably disappointing from there on.
Best time ever on a blog. I love you guys!
Lurie should have opened up the Linc and had Eagles fans give a thumbs-up/thumbs-down, Roman Coliseum-style, to each player under contract in 2014.
Riley Cooper?……Let him…………….
Now THAT would have been entertaining.
Let’s be fair before Chip Mac was a 65/800/7 guys his whole career is it crazy to think a guy like Torrey Smith can put up maybe? 75/1200/8
that’s what im saying.
I have to see the money but if he left for his 11 mil in KC then good for him let’s get Smith or dare I say Crab but if it was like a Cobb deal I would’ve matched that
9 was the number if he wanted to be here he should have taken it.
OregonDucker has, without qualification, said the Mariota deal’s going down.
Just reporting what I read.
OD:
hope that was ok.
God. Now I have to drink even more!
That’s what I wanna hear!
And GEAGLE insisted we’d resign Maclin. I wouldn’t take a word any of these guys said as anything other than idle speculation.
GEAGLE pretty much guaranteed Maclin would be staying! You had my hopes up man lol So Eagles are screwed now in the WR department.. From having DJax, Maclin n Shady to Matthews, Cooper n Gore haha
BC:
I’m just having some fun.
No one knows anything about Kelly’s plans — unless the party on the other side tells us.
Caught all that too. When will it be announced?
Very interested to see the money I’d be pretty pissed if its 10 or less
It won’t be
Maclin to the Chiefs! lol You screwed this one up Chip.. Kept the wrong WR Cooper n got rid of one that wanted to stay n play DJax.. Now Maclin showed he is all about the money n prefers Reids culture
Chip is not the problem. Uninformed fans are the problem.
If he doesn’t bring a Super Bowl after blowing up a young, talented nucleus of players in their prime, I beg to differ
those players have been on this team for a while, not winning any playoff games. they were great i really liked all of them but we gotta move on, just like every other fan base.
And you have every right to differ. He’s taking a chance on greatness. If he fails, he should be canned.
Yea…and if this blows up…you go back to Oregon and I’m stuck watching my team take years to recover. It’s easy not to care when you don’t have skin in the game.
I’m more than willing to take that chance, been a fan for over 50 years. Got used to waiting for them to recover. Make it or break it time for me.
They’ll forget him when Chip gets those physical big WRs that he likes.
Need Crab or Smith pretty badly now unless you want Matthews, an Gore as your primary weapons
Don’t panic. Things will work out, or they won’t. Chip has set his value tree and is going by the numbers. If he fails, he’s out, if he is right then you might have a SB.
If he values Qb and OL so much why hasnt he agreed with Clint Boling yet?
bc he cut the whole secondary. all in good time…
Smith has a done deal in place with San fran
Yo,
I would have loved to be looking like a fool, but I guess it’s someone else whose name starts with GE..
Intelligent twitter is the best twitter:
Ryan Nanni @celebrityhottub 41s41 seconds ago
Theory: Chip Kelly’s trying to manipulate the Philadelphia housing market.
What is the estimated amount of cap space now with Maxwell and Gore? 15mil off the 50. 50-15= 35. We arent overpaying for Maclin, so what is gods name are we saving for. They have to be targeting McCourty hard.
safety, guard, olb, maybe corner.
Yep, that’s my guess.
What for, the two or three rookie draft picks?
Need a little room for the rookie contracts too.
That would have us sitting around 20, back to where we were, no?
i think we’re going have much less to rollover this year, but that’s ok. good teams aren’t rolling $20m a year every year.
Still plenty of room to have signed Mac or McC. Though If Mac is getting north of 9 per then I see why they didnt pursue further.
Probably will only count for 12 on this years cap
Insurance policy contract for Foles…? <<>>
probably 15m w/ sanchez.
Looks like Eagles do a reverse of last season.. Good O bad D.. Now Good D bad O lol Too early to say but WTF is going on here haha
rather have eags drafting offense and playing rookies on that side. kelly almost seems allergic to playing defensive rookies
I think the Maclins thing tells us more than chip thinks he can manufacture WR productin. It also says he’s bullish on Matthews and huff. And why not? Mariota to huff is clearly golden. Definitely.
Well with Cobb staying and Mac chasing DAT $$$ and Smith apparently going to SF were super limited also Macs production is going to go off a cliff
no way kc can keep Bowe.
Yeah but I don’t want him either… Maybe our boy Evans is coming!?!?
like white out of wvu ust as much. goodley in 5th would be nice too. so many freak wrs coming out every yr, i’m in heaven. i’d have 10-12 if i was in control of roster
Now you’re talkin’
Heeeeheeeeheee.
OD . . . the Lex Luthor of Igglesblitz.
If it’s true no point paying Mac big money
Maclin’ll do ok, I think.
He put up 69 for 859 7tds in ’12 w/ Vick and rookie Foles.
I think that’s who he is: 70-80 catches for 900-1000 yards and 7-10 TDs.
Solid numbers. Not worth $11M, though.
Vixk and Rookie Foles have bigger arms than Smith dude will be running so many screens, look what happened to his production with Sanchez over the course of a full season just 80/1060/4 and that’s with Chip inflation I’m calling 67/890/4
Maclin seems like he’s been running screens, deep outs and deep ins since he was drafted — with DJax going deep.
Won’t change in KC.
Smith’s weak arm . . . does that give defense’s and advantage? Cheating up, I mean? Mac’s YPC could be Avant-esque.
Some fans can’t handle the truth.
I would like to have an apology.
Maclyn suxx
Not from you, mate.
Someone kept calling me a fooool…
You are not a fooool but a valued member of this community. Although, you may be as crazy as some of us. 🙂
I’m sorry. I don’t know what for tho.
Get Fat Andy on the phone right now so he can apologize!
http://igglesblitz.com/2015/03/more-lb-talk-3/#comment-1889369592
lmao
Ouch and with the source!!!!!
GEAGLE is on break now
F him. What a hack.
Rock on. That coward won’t be on here with his bullsh#t for a while.
Actually, lmfao applies.
Good luck with that.
The whole class would
“Yous just a donkey fan, yous know nothing, I’m hearing Mac is a done a deal and so is Brandon Graham and MUFASA is an Eagle for life”
Or something.
no they are adopted ducks, they will be here.
Adopted ducks. Hahahah
KC reportedly going after Revis too. If I’m a team with need for an edge-rusher, I’m holding off on spending serious cap room on one. Considering Reid’s past and Houston’s disgruntlement with the franchise tag would it surprise anyone if Reid removed the franchise tag or shopped Houston for less than 2 1sts?
I refuse to believe that it’s possible
It’s Reid. See Jeremiah Trotter. It’s not only possible, it’s happened (with an inferior player, but it has still happened.)
There is no way they Revis and Mac I refuse to believe it
That’s further out there 😀
You’ve been hurt before…
If Houston signs that piece of paper, KC can’t move him.
Maybe Belichick will sign JH to an offer sheet.
New England’s 1st Rd picks might as well be 2nds.
So, our Nostradamus said the following:
Murray will wear down.
Romo will break his back.
The cowboys will choke in December.
Brandon Graham will be an Eagle.
Mac will stay, no worries.
Did I miss something….?
Lol.
I thought Murray was going to wear down, Romo would need a backiotomy, and that Dallas would fold in December. They had a fluke year. Watching them get past the Lions was painful.
They didn’t get past the Lions. The dumbass refs gave them an express ticket.
Watching them rob the Lions was painful. Almost as painful as watching the Lions self-destruct in that game. Poetic justice in GB.
My bad, I forgot.
Agree, agree, agree. Next year, Murray has a good, not great season. Romo’s back catches up with him. Cowboys fail to reach the playoffs.
Now you’re just piling on. Not worth getting upset with him over his prognostications. I enjoy his unusually (for an eagles fan) positive outlook, but I take his guarantees with a grain of salt. Besides, he was also certain Cary was coming back, no way we paid for Maxwell, and Chip has no interest in Mariota because Foles is his QB for the next 1000 years.
Dude deserves all the shade being thrown at him.
Exactly. Can’t agree more. I really get so tired of the blowhard prognostications and the not so subtle hints that he has inside knowledge that will all be revealed to us morons in due time.
Yep….
His prediction routine doesn’t bother me. Insulting anyone who dares to disagree or even express doubt does.
I thought it’s FOles for the next 987 years?!
You misunderstand. When he says stuff like…
…he’s earned every bit of grief. He doesn’t just prognosticate. He personally attacks anyone who suggests anything different will happen. He’s garbage.
When he goes here, he ticks me off same as he does the rest of you. Most of the time, I ignore when he starts this type of ranting. Taking his predictions with a grain of salt keeps my bloodpressure down 😛
How about this gem from 3/11/14 from the prognosticator of prognosticators, the perscebtage setter:
Eagles will sign:
..
Cory Graham
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Ward
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Jenkins
,,,
Alex Carrington
…
Cnris Cooks
..
Bruce Cambell….
…
Jammarri Lattimore…
…
If we can’t get Carrington the other DL we consider is Al Woods or Terrence Cody(non GUARENTEED roster spot)
love it!!!!
The percentage setter!!! Hahahahah
No, no. Not percentage, that is an actual word. Perscebtage, as in, “FYI, i have a higher accuracy perscebtage this time of year then most…”
I really like you.
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/007/582/tumblr_lmputme3co1qa6q7k_large.png
hahaha
I’m dying to see numbers on Maclin. If it’s 11m+, good call from Chip. 10.5m would be the point I’m not sure. I would have made 10, even though I didn’t like it. Everything under 10 would be pretty fair.
You overpay CB with Chip as a HC, but you shouldn’t overpay WR. We already made that mistake last offseason.
“We already made that mistake last offseason.”
I still don’t understand that much money for him.
Is it considered bullying if we slam that douche every time he tries to post a proclamation? Truthfully, part of the reason I have not posted or been as active on here as in the past is because of him. His posts almost read like manifestos. He belittles any point of view that is counter to his and I honestly can’t stand to read his insight, regardless of whether I share his perspective.
I agree. And as much as I don’t want to be bullying him, he’s been as disrespectful as it gets. Now he needs to eat some crow, and I don’t feel sorry for him. Even if it makes me look foolish.
Crazy day. I wonder the contract. KC might have backed up the truck for Mac because of their WR issues this year.
I like Max and Gore. If we land McCourty I really think our defense becomes elite. I really think they get another WR this year in the draft. Cooper’s got one year to prove he can play or he’s playing somewhere else after the year.
Chip is the Honey Badger cuz he don’t care.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
definately a make it or break it year for billy d.
You’re right. Chip does not give a damn. He will do what he thinks needs to be done to win. If he fails, at least he gave it HIS best shot. This is why we call him Big Balls Chip. He really does not give a damn what the press or fans think.
I love his moves so far this year. Bummed about losing Maclin, but he’s a good, not great WR making replacing him at lot easier than some positions. Overall, D looks much better already. Gore’s N/S style fits Kelly’s system better, even if he’s not as explosive as Shady was. Good chance he pulls a shocker in the draft and somehow grabs MM. Even if he doesn’t, I’d consider this offseason a success. Only move I don’t like was the Sanchez resigning. It makes sense, I just think he’s garbage. Sadly, there’s no one you can confidently say would be better on the market.
Maclin gear on PE.com isnt reduced yet, WTF. I have a signed Maclin picture of him in Kelly Green….Was hoping he would be here at least thru his second contract.
There is no way we don’t have a plan right?
Yeah draft in another deep WR class.
We have proven we can draft WR’s well especially early in the draft. CB’s and Safeties? not so much.
Agree x100
If we ever Will be on the clock this year…
We wont have any picks after Mariota apparently, and we need RB, OL, WR, CB
There’s always a plan. Whether it’s a good one or not is debatable.
Correct GR. But the fans won’t decide, the win/loss column will decide.
If you call him GR, please keep calling me GE.
Good point. I like the moves, but next season’s W/L is a better measuring stick than any of us or even the guys getting paid to report on the Eagles.
Maybe. I hope those who propose that Chip is a genius with big balls are right. I hope those who propose he still thinks like a college coach and is over his head in the NFL are wrong.
All these moves, I have no doubt that if CK wants MM, he’s going to go get him.
Guess he didn’t want Maclin?
Perception is great…earlier today someone posted…with all these moves I have no doubt chip is not getting MM….
LOL – what’s great about all this is no one has any idea.
McCourty likely to go back to NE. Cant blame him
From everything i am reading they are just working on trying to keep him, not a guarantee. Eagles still heavily in the mix.
Then who’s going to play safety for the Eagles?
Belichick’s choice? Rahim Moore.
If Belichick says he’s the guy to go after, then he’s the guy to go after.
Who are you referring to when you write Belichick? The real one? Or is this a nickname for a user here?
Sorry, Dominik . . .
D3FB. Highest quality inside-football comments on IB.
He’s denied being Belichick. I’m not buying.
Chip still may backup the Brinks truck. We can only hope 😀
I’m sure Belichick doesn’t like the Maclin to Kansas City signing. Maybe more reasons for Chip to increase his offer. I hope he does.
I’m sure Belichick doesn’t like the Maclin to Kansas City signing. Maybe more reasons for Chip to increase his offer. I hope he does.
Didn’t they say the same about Mac a couple hours ago
Possible Maclyn replacements in the draft
Chris Conley
Antwan Goodley
Tre McBride
Rashad Greene
Justin Hardy
DeAndre Smelter
Stefon Diggs
Dezmin Lewis
The brightest kid on that list is Conley. Graduated UGA in 3.5 years.
Does his football IQ match his school room IQ?
Considered a disappointment by UGA fans.
Which of those guys went to Oregon?
With Gore…will the have wheel chair day at the stadium?
Will there be an older starting rb in the league?
“It is what it is”
The Fat Man cometh and the Fat Man taketh!
maybe he giveth Hali and Bowe.
no-eth
no-eth
they are in the running for revis so maybe
Ok, I don’t wanna rub it in, but the Redskins signed Desean to a 6m/year contract. Just saying…
Maclin > Jackson. Doubt many Eagles fans agree, but sure seems to be the league’s opinion 😀
new thread up
Maclin, won’t see him no more. I have given up trying to figure out what kelly is doing except that he came to the conclusion this team as currently constituted couldn’t make a playoff run.
If Kelly’s attending a baptism tomorrow . . .
ha!! taking care of all family business.
I’m thrilled about Maxwell. I’m bummed about Maclin. I’ve always have liked Gore, but it sure seems the arguement about Shady aging out doesn’t hold.
Think it has as much to do with running style as age. Shady’s production really dipped last season too, while Gore’s has stayed steady for years.
Re: Plan / No plan
Ordo ab chao . . .
Out of chaos, comes order.
Euripides?
Freemasons.
The eternal dialectic.
Philosophically i wonder if this is not just a sign of chip going he can get production out of anyone but that WR is fundamentally overvalued in the NFL currently.
More and more production is coming from young WR’s and the general quality is improving across the league – but the NFL is still paying 10+ million for players who touch the ball 6-7 times a game on average. Compare that to Offensive linemen who effect the play every single down tangibly and yet have a significantly softer market (outside of LT’s).
Anyone know what Maclin got in terms of contract. I agree we shouldn’t have handed him a blank check, but the outcome from today is we overpaid for a good, not great, FA CB rather than pay for a WR who we know is productive in this offense. Explain to me how this isn’t the recipe for disaster that we discuss every single offseason?
SCHEME… THEY SAY
Giants really love our old defensive lineman. Not that surprising that the club has been trending down when you consider that. Still, glad it’s Brandon and not Trent possibly lining up in Giants blue. Trent as a Giant would make me ill.