The Return of Sanchez and What That Means

Posted: March 9th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 1,414 Comments »

Mark Sanchez is coming back to Philly. The Eagles are going to sign him to a 2-year, $9M deal. It could go higher with incentives.

I have mixed feelings on the return of Sanchez. The Eagles needed to add a veteran QB to the mix. I wanted no part of Jake Locker. I wasn’t all that keen on Tavaris Jackson. There just weren’t great choices. Sanchez started 8 games last year, going 4-4 and playing up and down. He showed he can at least be a functional starter in this offense.

The downside is that he turned the ball over a lot. Unlike Foles, who did this in 2014, but not 2013, Sanchez has a history of turnovers. That would lead you to believe they’ll be an issue in 2015, should he get on the field. Sanchez also struggled at times with finding open receivers. Remember Zach Ertz running wide open down the field vs Seattle? And Sanchez was horrible at throwing the corner route, which is a regular part of the Eagles offense.

The hope is that he can get better in Year 2. He knows the offense pretty darn well at this point. There won’t be any more adjusting to the pace and that type thing. He can focus on execution. Making good reads. Making accurate throws. There is no question that Sanchez has the physical tools to be a very good QB in the NFL. He needs to play more consistently and to play up to his potential. Another year with a good offensive coaching staff can only help.

So…why is Sanchez here? Is he competition for Nick Foles? Is he here to mentor Marcus Mariota and to start until MM is ready to take over?

Chip Kelly wants to trade up and draft Mariota. That’s no secret. Kelly is going to make a substantial offer to try and pull that off. But it takes two to tango. I get the feeling the Bucs want to move out of #1. Whether they want to move all the way down to 20 is a huge question mark.

My guess is that Kelly is preparing so that he can make a run at Mariota. That means he needs to use free agency to fill key holes on the roster. Kelly doesn’t know what picks he’ll have. Kelly also is a firm believer that you must have more than one QB. Kelly might have to deal Nick Foles in order to move up. That means Sanchez can be the veteran on the roster if that happens.

Should the teams up high decide not to deal with the Eagles, Sanchez can be competition for Foles. And remember that Foles has gotten hurt in each of his 3 years. You can’t count on him starting all 16 games.

Kelly really wants to get Mariota, but he can’t count on that outcome. Every move he makes this year has to work with a couple of different QB scenarios. Sanchez works with both Foles and Mariota. And Kelly is a big fan of his.

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Jeremy Maclin is headed to KC. What are the Eagles going to do?

In a normal year, you might focus on spending pick 20 to get a stud WR. Due to the Mariota situation, you can’t do that this year.

It is easy to see the roster now and want to hit the panic button. Jordan Matthews, Riley Cooper, Josh Huff, Jeff Maehl, Quoron Pratt and Will Murphy aren’t going to scare a lot of coaches out there. But you have to remember something…the offseason hasn’t even officially started yet.

Chip will upgrade the WR corps.

The Eagles wanted Jeremy Maclin back. They valued him. But they had a price they wanted to pay. And Mac wanted more. This was just business. I don’t blame him for going for the money. He’s had torn ACLs. You have to strike while the iron is hot. And he’s not going to Oakland or something like that. Mac will reunite with his old coach and be part of a winning team. Plus he’s in an area he knows. He went to Missouri and will now be playing for KC.

I don’t know who the Eagles will go after. I’m fascinated by Michael Crabtree. I like Hakeem Nicks as a reclamation project, but you can’t count on him. Andre Johnson would be an interesting veteran addition. Keeping Maclin was part of the original plan, but you can be sure they’ve got contingency plans. We’ll have to wait and see what they are.

This is a great point. I’m not saying Chip can just plug in anyone. Both guys were very talented. But he got them to play their best and produce like never before.

I trust Chip to fix the WR situation. The hard part is going to be waiting until he does make a move. Could be in the next few days. Could be a month from now. Might not be until after the draft. Be patient.

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FS Devin McCourty stayed in New England, which sucks. Apparently the Eagles were one of a few teams that tried to go after him.

Eagles could take a look at FS Rahim Moore, but I think Marcus Gilchrist might be the better fit. More versatile.

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1,414 Comments on “The Return of Sanchez and What That Means”

  1. 1 Greg Richards said at 12:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Like Gilchrist too. Probably the best scheme fit after McCourty although I’d rank Moore higher on pure talent.

  2. 2 47_Ronin said at 12:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Moore is probably the more talented saftey but his injury history is troubling. A plus for the Eagles is the DB coach connection to Moore from the Broncos, but there’s reporting that the Vikes, GMen and possibly da Bears are looking at Moore.

  3. 3 Kelce's Beard said at 12:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    ” He can focus on execution. Making good reads. Making accurate throws. There is no question that Sanchez has the physical tools to be a very good QB in the NFL.

    really? no question? because it seemed by the last few games Sanchez was only connecting (and aiming) short-to-intermediate

  4. 4 Jarock said at 12:32 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agree. Even midrange throws were dicey. He airmailed quite a few outs and was a disaster on post and corner routes. Since he’s still an Eagle, I hope he proves me wrong, but I really thought I saw enough of the Sanchize to comfortably say “I don’t want him starting for my team.”

  5. 5 Magmafromthedepths said at 1:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    A couple of things. Sanchez has been here a full year now, as Tommy says. If the banged-up O line is used as an excuse for Foles poor performance, by some, well, Sanchez had the same O Line to work with.. Numerous substitutions and changes of position in front of both QBs. I don’t care who starts or backs up the QB position. It’s just that Sanchez was quicker, more decisive in 2014. Some decisions were not right, but at least he did SOMETHING. A leader who can’t make up his mind is no leader at all.

  6. 6 iceberg584 said at 1:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The offensive line, sans Herremans, was back on the field during Sanchez’s stretch as the starter.

  7. 7 wee2424 said at 1:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    You could tell the playbook was lessened and they were only going for quick short throws. That’s why the offense was so limited, so of course he is going to look more decisive and quicker. Lol and just never mind the quotes from players and college scouts that rave about how much of a leader Foles is. Sometimes you have to look into something and think about it before posting it.

  8. 8 bill said at 8:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    About the OL – NO. During the December meltdown, Sanchez was not playing with an interior of Tobin, Molk, and Gardner. He didn’t play a game with Herremans at RT. By December, the line was playing fairly well; not 2013 dominant, but good enough that you could expect more on the deep throws, and the run game was actually productive (no 20 yard games for Shady).

  9. 9 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, disagree strongly on that statement too. He can’t make many throws outside the numbers. Being able to focus on execution ain’t going to help. He is who we thought he was.

  10. 10 daveH said at 9:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “The hope is that he can get better in Year 2”
    news flash — he has proven HE CANT
    ..
    then why pay the dude 9 mil with incentives fro 16 ??? MAKES ME PUKE

  11. 11 Jernst said at 9:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea I remember him having a lot more zip on his throws when he first took over for Foles. 4 games later the dudes arm looked dead and the field shrunk as he refused to throw it more than 20 yards downfield.

  12. 12 Mkdzmedia-embrace the meltdown said at 11:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    My problem with Sanchez isn’t the physical issue. Its that he has consistently show that he will turn the ball over or make the critical mistake at the worst possible time. He’s anti-clutch.

  13. 13 Weapon Y said at 4:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If the pass is beyond 20 yards, Sanchez cannot hit it.

  14. 14 JEinOKC said at 12:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t worry. I’ve heard from impeccable sources that Chip had a backup plan for this very scenario…………………………….Momah

  15. 15 Jarock said at 12:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Only if he improves as much this off-season as he did last year πŸ˜€ (He actually looked like practice squad material by the end of last training camp)

  16. 16 Tdubs said at 12:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    What worries me is that as of right now Riley Cooper is our #1 WR. Looking around the league’s FA crop I’m not sure there’s a clear #1 to come in and replace him. And the words “Eagles #1 WR Riley Cooper” strike terror into my heart.

  17. 17 Jarock said at 12:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think even Chip realizes Matthews is his #1 at this point. I have no idea whether his production in the slot will translate into production outside, but he’s obviously the most talented WR left on the roster at this point.

  18. 18 xeynon said at 12:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    What scares me is the possibility that Chip really does believe he can scheme anybody open and doesn’t need top-shelf talent at WR for his offense to succeed. That is true in college where the overall talent level is lower but not in the NFL where nearly every defender you play against is an All Conference level player. I already saw this movie with Andy Reid and know how it ends. I don’t want to go through another five years with the Chippah telling us we’re “just fine” at WR with Huff and Cooper while their inability to produce against good defenses kills us in the playoffs.

  19. 19 Jarock said at 12:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Disturbingly good point. Counter to that is that Chip has invested in Ertz and Matthews early in the draft the last two seasons. He seems to appreciate the need to talent catching the ball a bit more than Andy did early on.

  20. 20 anon said at 12:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he can scheme wrs open, he just need QBs that can get them the ball and Wrs that can catch.

  21. 21 James Adair said at 10:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    See NE, (Yes I know they have Brady at QB)

  22. 22 xeynon said at 12:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not only do they have Brady, it’s a stretch to say Belichick devalues top skill position talent. Gronkowski is the best TE in the game. Welker was the best slot receiver in the game when he was with them and Edelman isn’t far behind now. Randy Moss was the best receiver in the game, period. Corey Dillon was a very good RB. Etc.

  23. 23 James Adair said at 9:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Most of the names you mention here highlight my point. While Welker and Edelman have worked hard to make themselves good receivers they were not considered top talent. Welker was an UDFA and bounced around before landing on the Patriots and Edelman was a QB in college and was a 7th round draft pick. We probably have different things in mind when defining top-shelf talent.

  24. 24 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 2:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Cooper is not our #1. Pope all day. just look at the production==

    Matthews caught 12 more balls for 300 more yards and 5 more TDs,
    Mathews was targeted 9 more times than RC, and played 192 fewer snaps. No comparison

  25. 25 Jarock said at 12:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’ll only be upset about the Gore deal if Demarco only gets marginally more money. Both are violent north south runners and I think Chip would love to have either. Demarco’s much younger though and we probably slightly overpaid for Gore. If Demarco only ends up making 7-8 mil a season, Chip may wish he hadn’t been so quick to sign Gore.

  26. 26 anon said at 12:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    you can be sure they asked about what Demarco wanted. But there’s so much evidence that a guy w/ his number of touches in 1 year is never the same.

  27. 27 Jarock said at 12:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    About the same amount as a RB’s decline after 28 πŸ˜›

  28. 28 Jarock said at 12:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Side note – bet we can pitch the 2015 Eagles calendars at this point. With all the turnover, I bet that 2/3 of the months are now obsolete.

  29. 29 Joe Minx said at 12:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I appreciate the level-headed take, Tommy. I just have 2 things to note: 1. Mark Sanchez isn’t getting any better. 2. Hakeem Nicks is finished.

  30. 30 Joe Minx said at 12:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Woah.

    ***************

    Jayson Braddock
    ‏@JaysonBraddock

    7m7 minutes ago

    BREAKING NEWS: 49ers have put Colin Kaepernick on the trading block. Taking offers.

  31. 31 ICDogg said at 1:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’ll give ’em Riley Cooper

  32. 32 Baloophi said at 1:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He did win a game for the 49ers this past season…

  33. 33 anon said at 1:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    you’re on fire

  34. 34 xeynon said at 3:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Blech. He’d be cheaper than Mariota, but I’m not a fan at all. He’s been starting for three seasons now, and given no indication that he’s ready to make “the leap” – in fact, he’s regressed. And unlike Foles, he’s already signed a big money extension. No thanks.

  35. 35 anon said at 8:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    his cap hit pays him like a good QB, too much

  36. 36 Joe Minx said at 12:54 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chase Snyder
    ‏@chiefssnyder19

    4m4 minutes ago

    Wowwwwww RT @VincentFrankNFL: Can confirm through my connections, @JaysonBraddock ‘s report that Kaepernick is indeed on the trade block.

  37. 37 anon said at 12:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    we’re not interested. Most important part of the offense is quick decision making, Kaep can’t do that. But i’m sure we’ll ask frank gore.

  38. 38 Jarock said at 12:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agreed, but if one of the QB hungry teams at the top of the draft wants to take a bite, I won’t complain.

  39. 39 OregonDucker said at 1:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/574800096216264704

  40. 40 Baloophi said at 1:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe to play receiver?

  41. 41 anon said at 1:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah i was totally wrong

  42. 42 OregonDucker said at 1:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    No, he is bad; plus Foles is much better. This may be part of something bigger.

  43. 43 Baloophi said at 1:29 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Like the apocalypse?

  44. 44 ACViking said at 1:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Thank God. Finally some level-headed thinking

  45. 45 dillinja said at 1:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Stats don’t really bear this out. Foles turned the ball over twice as much as Kaep did last year and Kaep’s passing accuracy was slightly higher. Factor in Kaep clear ability as a runner as well.

  46. 46 eagleyankfan said at 7:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    3 team trade to get Eagles to number 1 pick? Foles to SF, Keap to Tampa etc etc?

  47. 47 Dominik said at 7:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not buying that. At all. I think this is Chips way of saying to the Buccs: 4 1st rounders? How about 3 and we shake hands?

  48. 48 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 2:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    IDK, man. I was watching Gore vs. San Diego, and there goes Kaep with a 90yd TD run….3 straight title games and a near SB victory. If there’s any coach who can help him, it’s Chip. Think of it as getting Brett Hundley and a Delorean

  49. 49 Baloophi said at 1:00 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That would put another team with a QB need in front of us at #15…

  50. 50 Magmafromthedepths said at 1:04 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “Chip Kelly wants to trade up and draft Mariota.” When did Chip EVER say this?

  51. 51 ICDogg said at 1:32 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He hasn’t. I think that some of us are going way off the deep end in projecting that’s what’s going to happen. My opinion is it’s something he would like to do, but I’m not completely sold that he is willing to go all out to make that happen; or even if he is, if he will be able to accomplish it.

  52. 52 Iskar36 said at 1:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I just simply don’t understand the logic of trading to get that high. At the very least, I don’t see how it will not cost both a 1 and 2 this year and next year. If we are ting to trade up all the way to the first overall, it will cost even more than that. Given the number of new starters we will have to begin with (RB, RG, WR, ROLB, ILB, CB1, CB2, S), I just don’t think you can afford to spend that much for one guy who isn’t even filling one of those eight positions. I get it that a QB is essential, but if we draft MM, I don’t see how we surround him with talent during his first several seasons other than focusing on FA as out means to “retool” (SMH).

  53. 53 eagleyankfan said at 7:36 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    You assumption is based all on draft picks – there will be player(s) involved. For the 10 millionth time — Chip isn’t going to say “Hey Tampa, how about you take 40 of our draft picks the next 10 years”….
    Second — JM. He’s going to be a star at WR if he continues his progress. Huff is a good #3. Just find a compliment there in the draft/FA. Draft(in later rounds) an rb that Gore can help build….
    ….
    I fully believe in Foles(and anyone who thinks Sanchez is competition is just not thinking straight). However, if Chip really, really believes in this guy — why not get him? I’d rather him go after something he really wants instead of settling on someone he inherited and not sure he wants….

  54. 54 Iskar36 said at 7:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The premise of my comment is that we trade to get Mariotta. How do you purpose to trade to get MM without using draft picks? Also, go back and read my comment. I didn’t purpose they would trade 40 picks over the next 10 years. I said two first and two second round picks. That trade may not even be enough to get you as high as you need to be to draft MM. So while yes, I assume a trade from 20 to top 5 will require a use of significant draft picks, how else do you purpose we get up there?

    As for your other comments, great we have Jordan Matthews. We still have to find that complimentary WR. Also, while JM had a solid rookie year, assuming he will be a true #1 WR is very optimistic. He flashed potential, but didn’t show that level of talent yet.

    While I agree you need to go find your QB, it is overly simplified to say “I’d rather [Chip Kelly] go after something he really wants.” The question still is at what cost. The cost of going after MM, regardless of how much CK may like him, is going to be significant. I am arguing that the significant cost is going to hurt the teams ability to build around him.

  55. 55 eagleyankfan said at 8:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    of course I was over the top to make a point. If the trade does happen, it won’t (and can’t) be all draft picks. Player(s) will be involved which would mean, less draft picks that the Eagles give up…

  56. 56 Mitchell said at 1:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    As far as the safety situation goes, I look at it like this: Is Searcy, Moore or Gilchrist better than Allen? If so, sign any one of them up and our secondary just got worlds better, especially with the acquisition of Maxwell because regardless of contract, Maxwell is probably better than Williams and Fletcher combined.

  57. 57 Baloophi said at 1:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I believe “The Return of Sanchez” can be used interchangeably with “Montezuma’s Revenge”…

  58. 58 anon said at 1:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Eagles in a Keap trade

  59. 59 Baloophi said at 1:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “Kap and Trade”? #EPApuns

  60. 60 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 2:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    All the sh%t talk this weekend, there might be a carbon tax by 4pm Tuesday

  61. 61 Baloophi said at 1:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    RE: Kaepernick trade rumors
    I know people are down on him as a QB, but I’d be curious to see what he could do in an offense with underwhelming receivers and Frank Gore as his running back. Wait a second…

  62. 62 Sydney Eagle said at 1:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    So I reckon the Eagles brains trust morning meeting will start early today. But where do they start…….

  63. 63 ICDogg said at 1:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    acquiring brains

    http://cuntinglinguist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/barins.jpg

  64. 64 OregonDucker said at 1:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s how I feel tonight after the Kaep rumor.

  65. 65 Dan said at 7:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Only way I see the Eagles getting Kaep is to flip him to the Bucs, Kaep is awful.

  66. 66 anon said at 1:29 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Bears other team in trade mix. i could see bears more than us.

  67. 67 ICDogg said at 1:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    With Kaepernick, it’s not just about the assets to be traded for him, but also of the salary and cap commitments. The fact that he’s on the market at all and we all know it usually means they’re not going to get much for him.

  68. 68 Joe Minx said at 1:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    @Robert915SCS: can you help out on this dumb rumor going around about kap— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 9, 2015

  69. 69 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 1:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Gilchrist, yes. the good thing here is that we can be pretty certain they have set aside money for safety/and WR and are willing to spend it. Thing to watch is…. What are their walk away numbers for the remaining FA’s?

    In the end this could be a HUGE blessing, because we can get similar production for a much lower price from a Gilchrist, or Searcy. This will work out to our advantage.

    The added savings can now go revamping the RG, Iupati? Boling? Oregonian—Adam Snyder

    WR= Wouldn’t be mad about Mr. Crabs for the right price, but what I noticed Chip’s Oregon rosters were a good mix of big targets, (which we have plenty in #14,Pope,Ertz) and speedy targets, (Huff,________ ) this is where I’d expect him to strike if he adds to the WRs. Possible additions: Cecil Shorts, Eddie Royal, Andre Holmes (who’s big and fast), and Harry Douglass. I wouldn’t be shocked if he signed 2 WRs, because I want to believe Cooper gets June 1’d.

    Next OLB–When I thought we were spending mega bucks at S,CB,and WR, I thought the OLB would be more of a stop gap to hold fort until MS2 came around. A Dan Skuta, Brooks Reed type. Now they may increase the budget a bit. Why not give Derrick Morgan a run? Dude has been steady with 6 sack each of the last 3 years, he could be ready to turn the corner. And for those who believe Chip likes guys who play well against his teams, Morgan had 10 tackles and a sack in this yrs meeting with the Titans. Local guy as well, maybe he’ll take a discount?

    And as long as the Maxwell deal holds up, you can find a gang of CBs to line up opposite him. Buster Skrine is a good young target if Chip can get over his lack of size, the kid can defend. Tramon Williams’ name was floating around twitter earlier today. That makes sense, Gore proved Chip’s not afraid of 30+yr old vets. Williams has missed one game over his career, and been a play maker all along. Sterling Moore could be an affordable sleeper with exp. playing inside and out. And you can’t rule out Oregon alum Walter Thurmond

  70. 70 Joe Minx said at 1:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We’ve got a Twitter war on our hands

    GM Trent Baalke strongly denies the 49ers are shopping Colin Kaepernick.— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoCSN) March 9, 2015

    Reached out to several QB-needy teams. Have yet to hear from one who has had talks with 49ers about Kaepernick for those asking— Jason La Canfora (@JasonLaCanfora) March 9, 2015

    Story has been verified by 3 different sources. Time will prove it. Been here before.— Jayson Braddock (@JaysonBraddock) March 9, 2015

  71. 71 anon said at 2:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    braddock making a career for himself this weekend

  72. 72 Joe Minx said at 2:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Have to hand it to him, the guy’s been right on with everything he’s said.

  73. 73 Joe Minx said at 2:04 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Trent Baalke slamming this report hard.

  74. 74 anon said at 2:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    didn’t they say they were going to keep frank gore?

  75. 75 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 2:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    A Kaep for Foles deals just makes so much sense , in my mind, anyway. Would prefer to make this deal and save about 3-4 draft picks if we have to move on from Foles

  76. 76 xeynon said at 3:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Big difference is Kaepernick already has a fat contract he hasn’t really played up to, while Foles is still on a team-friendly rookie deal.

  77. 77 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kaep’s contract is essentially a year-by-year deal though, right? Or am I remembering that wrong. Think it would allow his team to move on with minimal pain after a year if they wanted from what I remember.

  78. 78 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 9:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kaep deal is extremely team friendly, especially when you consider SF has to eat all the dead money if they trade him. At that point th new team has no obligation aside from whatever they give up in the trade. It’s a year to year deal

  79. 79 xeynon said at 10:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    15 million dollar cap hit. Even if they can cut him without repercussions, that’s not an especially team friendly deal for a guy who’s a mediocre QB.

  80. 80 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 11:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s what the market is paying tho. If you roll with Foles you’ll be in that neighborhood, and you’ll have the guaranteed money stopping you from changing courses. This eliminates some of that problem. they have the money.

  81. 81 xeynon said at 12:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Foles is still on his rookie deal. The only way he gets paid in that neighborhood is if he has a season close to his 2013, in which case he will have proven that 2014 was the outlier and I will be happy paying him. If he’s mediocre again this year, we wash our hands of him.

    Kaepernick was mediocre last year AFTER getting a big payday. He’s been in the league longer and has more starting experience in addition to getting paid more. One more year of wait-and-see with Foles is not a huge gamble, trading for Kaepernick is.

  82. 82 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 3:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t mind Foles for another year, but doubt that’s in Chip’s plans. MM or no MM

  83. 83 Media Mike said at 5:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Except Kaep sucks. Badly.

  84. 84 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 9:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Alot like Foles sucks, where all he does is win games, with mediocre WRs

  85. 85 bill said at 9:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    ….and a dominant defense that keeps the pressure off the offense to score too much. Kaep REALLY struggles if he throws more than about 25 times a game. If Chip keeps the hurry-up, this team is going to need to be an absolute outlier in run/pass ratio – somewhere on the order of 65% runs.

  86. 86 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 9:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The thing is that just because SF ran some ZR stuff, doesn’t mean they run the same or a similar offense. Chip does his best to make the scheme simple. IT’s a better system for Kaep than what Roman ran, and probably better than what SF is about to install.

    The guy was a play away from winning the Super Bowl and the defense didn’t show up to that game, and many others. That’s an easy cop out

  87. 87 bill said at 9:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    …and Alex Smith was two bungled special teams plays from taking that same roster to the SB the year before. However you slice it, that roster was stacked, and Kaep didn’t significantly out perform Smith, in terms of team accomplishments.

    Also, Harbaugh’s known for making his scheme very simple for QBs. He wants to minimize the importance of the position in terms of the team. And Kaep struggled with the decision making side of it. With the multiple reads and quick decision making Chip says, and his playcalling has borne out, that he needs, Kaep’s really going to struggle.

  88. 88 dollamakeuholla said at 10:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He def had a bad year last year but he was in the NFC championship 2 years in a row. And a lot of the plays that got them there in the playoffs was him running. Guy’s stats are pretty legit.

  89. 89 Red Neck said at 10:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I hear what you are saying…. But you can argue Mark Sanchez was in 2 AFC championship games. The Jets and Niners both had stacked defenses and relied on a power run game. The difference was Harbaugh v. Rex. I believe Harbaugh would be an asset to a young QB as where Rex is detrimental to all QB’s. Opponents QB’s and his own.

  90. 90 dollamakeuholla said at 12:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea but he made big plays with his legs. Had 100 yards rushing against GB and then 130 against seattle. I just remember when he was doing well thinking why didn’t we pull that trade off. He would be Money with Kelly

  91. 91 Cafone said at 3:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Did Chip Kelly really get Jackson and Maclin “to play their best and produce like never before”? Or do the Eagles just run more plays than anyone else?

    Having the worst starting receiver in the NFL at #2 probably doesn’t hurt the numbers for the #1 either.

  92. 92 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    % bump in stats has been way bigger than the % differnce in snaps vs other teams. The quality of the #2 cuts both ways. If you’ve got a good ‘un it means Ds can’t ignore the #2 and focus on stopping the #1. Get a bad one and it might mean the #1s targets go up but the coverages he faces will be much tougher.

    I like Maclin, but barring something unforseen I expect him to get about 1k and 4-6 TDs in KC.

  93. 93 ICDogg said at 3:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    OT but The Jinx, HBO’s 6-part documentary on suspected serial killer Robert Durst has been excellent so far. Part 5 may have uncovered a piece of evidence that just might lock the guy up after all these years.

  94. 94 Avery Greene said at 8:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Did you see the season premiere of Vice? I had to watch it twice because I was on my laptop when it first came on. Crazy stuff, and one of the hospitals is in Philly.

  95. 95 ICDogg said at 9:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I did, and it was very interesting. Using HIV and other viruses to cure cancer.

  96. 96 CrackSammich said at 9:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The end of Episode 4 where he’s mumbling to himself is just awesome.
    You might be the only person I know watching the show, which is a shame. Great story, well done. The interviewer’s facial hair is a conundrum.

  97. 97 ICDogg said at 9:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    It sounded like Durst was rehearsing his next lie, unaware that he was being recorded.

  98. 98 Anders said at 3:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I really hope we sign Searcy or Moore now that McCourty is off the board, both should be much cheaper than McCourty anyway.

    What I do not get is people slamming the Eagles for reportedly signing Maxwell for 10.5 per year. 10.5 is a great number for a CB of Maxwell’s potential.

  99. 99 xeynon said at 3:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    10.5, with 25 million+ guaranteed, is elite CB money. If a guy is going to get elite money for a player at his position, he should be a proven elite talent. And Maxwell is not that.

  100. 100 RC5000 said at 3:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That is not always realistic.

  101. 101 Anders said at 4:04 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have to factor in the year the deal was signed. The fact that a few teams including the Eagles had a gazillion money and that the cap has gone up 20 mill over the last two years, mean 10.5 means much less now than 2 years ago.

  102. 102 xeynon said at 4:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    It is still an onerous cap charge for a guy who’s good but not great, and is likely to be significantly exposed now that he doesn’t have Earl Thomas behind him to clean up mistakes.

    I don’t believe in signing free agents to huge money deals unless they are proven elite talents (~top 5 in the league at their position). History suggests that when you pay for a guy who’s not proven on that level, as often as not you end up regretting it. Maxwell may turn out to be a good signing but the downside risk is enormous.

  103. 103 Greg Richards said at 6:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    $13.5M isn’t the first year cap charge. It’s how much Maxwell actually makes in 2015 through salary and signing bonus.

  104. 104 Avery Greene said at 7:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If they get Searcy or another Safety, he shouldn’t be exposed as much. Plus, I think teams are throwing to the other side unless we get the kid from Cleveland.

  105. 105 dollamakeuholla said at 10:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    look at the tapes on him. He was in one on one a TON. They run the same type defense as us and you saw how much we left our corners out there by themselves. And he was tested for sure since no one ever threw it Sherman’s way. The guy is a player and comes from a Super bowl winner and will take that all day. If we didn’t sign him to that someone else would have. Great signing. This isn’t NNamdi where no one ever tested him. This guy put in the work and earned his contract.

  106. 106 xeynon said at 10:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Again, he had Earl Thomas patrolling the field behind him. Not to mention a great pass rush in front of him.

    In the playoffs I saw a guy who’s better than what we had but whose lack of lateral quickness got exposed a bit, and who was clearly the beneficiary of great team play. I did not see a $10 million/year shutdown corner. But time will tell.

  107. 107 dollamakeuholla said at 12:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    They run the same defense. There is plenty of times where he is on an island. How many times did bradley Fletcher not have help. He was in the same boat but wins his battles

  108. 108 Jernst said at 9:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well we always complain when teams pay players for past production and say you have to pay for future production not past success. Otherwise with the second most career sacks as an Eagle Trent Cole would be worth $11mil this year, but he’s not. Gotta pay for future production and Maxwell clearly has elite potential.

  109. 109 xeynon said at 10:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think we disagree on Maxwell’s potential. It’s not his age that bothers me, its other parts of his profile.

  110. 110 xeynon said at 4:29 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Reading reports that Maclin’s deal is for between 8 and 9 million a year, and that he may have actually taken less than what the Eagles were offering. If that’s true, not retaining him is absolutely indefensible.

  111. 111 oreofestar said at 5:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    F him if that’s true

  112. 112 Greg Richards said at 6:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If the Eagles actually offered him more, then how is it indefensible? Sure, if you wanted them to tag him, but they probably didn’t want that type of cap hit to only retain his rights one year.

  113. 113 Jernst said at 9:00 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is there a reason they couldn’t have used the Transition Tag. You can still tag players and avoid the huge cap hit of the franchise tag.

  114. 114 xeynon said at 10:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    What it means is that there was something about Chip’s program – whether it was him taking a chainsaw to the roster, the unsettled QB situation, or something else – that Maclin, by all accounts a consummate professional and great team guy, disliked though to leave money on the table to get away from. That’s not good. You don’t win in the NFL by convincing good players they don’t want to play for you.

  115. 115 Dominik said at 10:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maclin gets PAID in KC. 11m. Way too much. No discount to play in KC, they gave him that huge check we assumed could be coming out of Oakland or something.

    Nothing else to see here.

  116. 116 xeynon said at 10:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If this is true than I will retract my statement. Based on preliminary reports out of KC last night. Still not happy about letting him walk though.

  117. 117 Dominik said at 10:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nobody is happy about letting talent walk. What’s even worse though is overpaying talent where you don’t need to. Chip gave DJax, Mac and Coop career years and Matthews a very solid rookie year.

    You overpay a guy like Maxwell, who your team simply isn’t able to produce and develop. You look more at value signings at positions where you have a coaching advantage. If you break it down, it’s simple.

  118. 118 xeynon said at 12:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    As I’ve said before, I’ve heard that line before, when Reid was trying to win with Stinkston and Trash in the playoffs in the early 2000s. In the playoffs you’re going to go up against defenses who scheme just as well as you do. You need talent at that point. Chip Kelly can’t magically scheme plays that will enable Jordan Matthews and Riley Cooper to beat guys like Richard Sherman.

  119. 119 Dominik said at 12:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No one put many points on Seattles board when they were healthy and clicking. New Englands 28 points were a lot for Seattle and it took Tom Brady, still a Top 3 QB and maybe the greatest of all time, on his best game to deliver those 28 points.

    If we play Seattle in the playoffs, we won’t get 31 points. But maybe a improved Defense (something that Chip seems to value, remember, not only did he pay Maxwell, he wanted to pay McCourty 10m) can hold Seattle to 10 and we make 14.

    Seattle dominated us last year. But let’s also remember we played with Sanchez as QB. Even though Chip paid Sanchez to be his back-up, you can bet it’s not exactly Chips plan to play with Sanchez against Seattle. That’s like the famous knife to a gunfight scenario.

  120. 120 Red Neck said at 10:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe he just wanted to go close to where he grew up. He tired of eating cheese steaks and wanted some awesome KC BBQ.

  121. 121 A_T_G said at 6:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If that is true, retaining him may have been absolutely impossible.

  122. 122 Greg Richards said at 6:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Reid is/was like a father figure to a lot of players while to me Kelly seems to have more of a business/boss mindset. There are pluses and minuses to that.

  123. 123 eagleyankfan said at 7:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe Maclin didn’t like how hard Chip works his people and AR is a relaxed coached when it comes to that stuff?

  124. 124 Avery Greene said at 7:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s what I would think if he took less money. If the Eagles offered more, than I don’t think the blame is on them.

  125. 125 Jernst said at 8:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Mac took less money to go to KC then F him and all that BS he said about wanting to stay here.

  126. 126 RobNE said at 8:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Taco Tuesday and Fast Food Friday and all that.

  127. 127 Jarock said at 8:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’ll echo other’s sentiment of F him if the only reason he left is Chip makes him work too hard. He just had the best season of his career in Chip’s offense by a mile. I’d think he’d want to duplicate or improve on that instead of going back to a coach where he was never better than average.

  128. 128 bill said at 8:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t forget that he’s going home. By all accounts, he’s very family oriented. That may have played into it, too.

  129. 129 wee2424 said at 9:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agree.

  130. 130 dollamakeuholla said at 10:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    if that is the case and he signed for basically the same thing we offered then it all falls on Maclin, If he wanted to go home and play for a coach who gives his guys all the days off and fast food fridays then so be it. it was out of our hands. To go to an offense where you couldn’t break 1000 yards and just last year couldn’t get a QB to throw a TD to a WR then there was no hope for us. the last report was he was about to re sign and then his home state offered the same thing and he rolled

  131. 131 Greg Richards said at 6:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    As far as Kaepernick rumor goes, love how his contract is structured. Love his natural talent and how he played in 2013. Hate his 2014 season. Do like fact that could probably get him for less than it would take to trade up for Mariota. Hadn’t been familiar with Braddock before today, but his reports have been spot on so he obviously has connections. I take Baalke denying the rumors as a good thing. Why even bother respond to a reporter by someone without a national reputation unless it was a matter of putting the toothpaste in the tube. The way York was talking up Kaepernick earlier this season, I think it might be a matter of the GM(Baalke) wanting to move him and the owner(York) wanting to keep him.

  132. 132 Charlie Kelly said at 8:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he came out and denied it so fast, and it was late at night, something is fishy.

  133. 133 Avery Greene said at 8:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Exactly. Probably because they don’t want to price to go down on Kap.

  134. 134 Greg Richards said at 6:32 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter
    ‏@AdamSchefter

    43s44 seconds ago

    Bills and Jerry Hughes have reached agreement as @viccarucci reported. Deal is for five years and worth more than $45 million.

  135. 135 oreofestar said at 7:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    So many loyal FA resigning, wonder how that feels

  136. 136 Dan said at 7:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I put it on another post, but what about a Reggie Wayne stop gap, better low cost option ( I would assume) then dumping a ton of money on question marks of Crabtree or Torrey Smith. He lost a step but is a good route runner and would be a good veteran presence to our WR core that is so young.

  137. 137 Greg Richards said at 7:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Possibility if he’d accept 1-year deal. Don’t mind adding age at 1 or 2 spots like we did with Gore, but in general that’s not a great team-building philosophy.

  138. 138 eagleyankfan said at 7:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    some thing with Gore. If it was 8 years ago, this would be fantastic. Today though, I don’t think Chips building idea is re-treading old tires. With that said, Chip has pulled a few head shakers- so who knows.

  139. 139 tomw said at 7:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anyone up for telling us what our little mad scientist will do next?

  140. 140 GEAGLE said at 8:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    mad scientist label, genius label…all thats in the trash….. Truth is, chip does things different, different doesnt automatically mean genuis….
    ..
    dude has to win something now, before he should ever have the “genius” label…
    ..
    i dont hate the moves as much as it probably sounds… I hate the way he is going about building this franchise.. feel like we wasted two years where we knew we werent going to win a superbowl and have nothing to show for it

  141. 141 Dominik said at 9:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Schefter confirmed that Maclin will get 11m from the Chiefs. Even if Chip liked Maclin and wanted to keep him, and we can assume that, 11m for Maclin would be a stupid move. As stupid as Coops contract. Don’t make the same mistake twice.

  142. 142 GEAGLE said at 10:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    disagree… as of now, once they cut Coop next year, thy will have like 4mil comitted to our entire WR position which is a joke when i know from a roster building standpoint, there are at least 20-25mil allocated to spend on the WR position as a whole..
    ..
    Pay Mac 11mil
    1mil to jordan
    under a mil to huff
    Maehl is paid in food stamps..
    add another rookie WR who makes a mil a year
    what you pay for a player matters more how his salary fits combined with all the other salaries of the player at the same position, and the total of all the players at a position has to stay under a certain number..

    when you have NO money invested in a WR position past this year when Coop is gone, there was no reason whatsoever to lose him for 11m…
    ..
    back when you were paying Coop,Mac, and Desean, its understandable to cut desean because you are spending too much on the position as a whole,,
    ..
    fans and media look at how much a player is making compared to other players like him.. front office is more concerned with getting the best players they can for the amount of money they have allocated to a position as a whole…basicaly the salary Cap blueprint of team building, how much you can invest in each position group total, so that you can field the best team under the cap… .

  143. 143 Dominik said at 10:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chip will sign a WR. But probably for around 6-9m, with 9 only if he really likes the player. Maclins signing with the Chiefs was announced late yesterday. Give Chip at least a day to work on Plan B. People are reacting like Cooper will be our #1 in Week 1. Lol. No way he will be. Maclin was the first priority, got more money elsewhere, now there will be a plan B.

  144. 144 xeynon said at 10:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who’s he going to sign that’s as good as Maclin though? There’s nobody available who’s not a downgrade.

  145. 145 Dominik said at 11:07 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    1st: Veteran WRs seems to get a little devalued because of the young guys coming from College. You can trade for a veteran like Marshall, f.e. Or you wait until Andre Johnson is cut, f.e. You can bet that he wants to have some playoff success and you can bet Chip can recruit him with the numbers Johnson could get in Chips offense. Question will be money and if there’s a team willing to trade for AJ.

    2nd: There may be no options who have proven to be as good as Maclin. But they never played in this offense. Before Chip came, Maclin never had a 1000 yard season. Now he’s getting 11m.

    Relax, people. Chip can’t fix a defensive backfield with Williams, Fletcher and Nate Allen, but when it comes to Offense, he will make it work. Especially if he doesn’t have to play with a back-up QB and multiple back-up O-Liners.

    He needs talent, but not elite talent at WR. After all, Maclin isn’t an elite talent. He will find talent and he will aquire talent at WR.

    If he doesn’t, if he signs the twin brother of Riley Cooper, then I will agree with you. But Maclin was signed late last night. Give Chip at least a day or two to find a replacement. RELAX.

  146. 146 Avery Greene said at 7:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kapernick? What happened to Mariota? I’m confused and totally lost.

  147. 147 Charlie Kelly said at 8:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    the guy who broke the maxwell news, broke some news involving the eagles talking to the 49ers about trading for colin…. the 49ers GM came out and denyed it like a half hour later at lile 1130 1200 at night.. lol the reporter stands by it and said he has 3 sources that confirmed it.

  148. 148 Avery Greene said at 8:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I saw the twitter feud. It’s probably true, but CK is showing us to expect the unexpected.

  149. 149 GEAGLE said at 8:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    geez..i feel like i missed a week of news…. Kapernick? wow, kid is horrible

  150. 150 bill said at 8:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Kaep is the day 1 starter for this team next year, it could be a 4-12 season.

  151. 151 Dan said at 7:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Now that Miami signed Suh for 19 million a year I wonder if Jordan will be available with his over 5 million cap hit. Would be curious to see if they make a move.

  152. 152 GEAGLE said at 7:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i just got off an 8 hour plane ride…. someone tell me Maclin isnt in KC? this cant possibly be true… ill strangle this coach

  153. 153 oreofestar said at 7:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sorry it’s true, no contact details though

  154. 154 GEAGLE said at 7:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    no contract details at all? but he is def gone? signed, sealed and delivered?
    ..
    did we get anyone else after sanchez signing?

  155. 155 oreofestar said at 7:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Every last person gas reported it including national media its basically done

  156. 156 GEAGLE said at 8:00 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    im going crazy, my internet connection is horrible, it takes me like two muinutes just to get a post to appear on this page

  157. 157 oreofestar said at 8:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Calm down everything will be OK leave the panicking to me

  158. 158 GEAGLE said at 8:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    fuckin annoyed, to be out of the country with all this crap going on, and im so out of the loop
    ..
    i dont care about offense anyway… but i did like that this coach cared so much about building a locker room, a strong culture.. dissapointed that it was all a joke… “culture” the chip kelly excuse for not getting the most talented

  159. 159 oreofestar said at 8:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We offered him a nice contract its not like told Mac to F off, It’s Chip fault we most Desean and Chips fault we lost Desean but not Mac, Mac CHOSE to turn down our offer and leave for greener pastures

  160. 160 GEAGLE said at 8:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    how is philly taking it? everyone cool about it, or have people been flipping out? when did this even happen? late last night?

  161. 161 oreofestar said at 8:24 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Obviously some people were upset but I would say most are taking it OK, nowhere near as crazy as Desean

  162. 162 GEAGLE said at 8:30 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    hope they dont sign any of these scab WRs on the market like Crabtree, or Torrey…. i dont want any of these WRs on the market..
    ..
    and if we are going to rebuild in year 3, then Cut Coop while you are at it… i cant stomach to watch him play on his shiney contract, while 3 players who completely outclassed him are gone,… just take the cap hit and cut Coop, the reminder that we paid him and lost so much talent is just a spit in the face… really cant stomach the reminder of Coop,. hope we cut him asap, dont care about the cap hit

  163. 163 oreofestar said at 8:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    In fairness prior to this Chip year Maclin was considered by most to be inferior to Crab and Smith

  164. 164 GEAGLE said at 8:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    im not most… they always been mediocre at best as far as im concerned and I didnt need Sherman to tell me..
    ..
    torrey smith is a joke, he will sign for more money then he is worth. if i thought there was any chance at getting Smith at his true value I would be singing a different tune, but that kid is going to get more then he is worth… i want no parts of either

  165. 165 dollamakeuholla said at 9:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Honestly, so you want to keep Shady at 12million over gore at 3.75. and keep Desean and Maclin at 11 million each? cause that is where their contracts would be. If so you are a fan of what the phillies are now.

  166. 166 oreofestar said at 8:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Obviously some people were upset but I would say most are taking it OK, nowhere near as crazy as Desean

  167. 167 GEAGLE said at 8:24 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i dont wanna hear about this blind faith in chip… playing Musical chairs with our roster. been here two years, playing musical chairs with our roster…. i believe a team needs a few years of continuity before they can win anything….. im not so pissed baout the players we lost, Im pissed that we are seeing so much turnover still in year 3… when al these roster changes are made wjhether they are positive or negative changes, it rips up the continuity we built and force us to start all over..
    …since chip arrived, he should have blown this entire thing up his first year, layed a new foundation, and spent last year and now this year on building on that foundation he put in place… yet its year 3, going into a year where every single one of us should be demanding results, and this dude is still rocking the roster down to the core.. insead of having two years invested in our continuity to show for being losers these past two years, we dont even have that to show for it, dude is still playing musical chairs with the roster…. feel like the first two years are a complete waste of time, instead of using those two years to start building something

  168. 168 oreofestar said at 8:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am far from having blind faith but it’s hard to get mad about it until I see contract.

  169. 169 GEAGLE said at 8:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    chip is the coach, he has every stinking right to cut whatever former player he inherited, he has every single right to discard Mac, Desean, Shady…im just annoyed with the timing. new coach should be doing his demolition phase year 1, by year 2 he should be done the demolition phase and have a foundation in place that we should be building on…. instead ever 3 holes we fill, 3 more are created…. running in quicksand

  170. 170 dollamakeuholla said at 9:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who did he get rid of who’s contract wasn’t getting out of line? You are acting like he didn’t try to keep Maclin. An hour before he signed with KC it was reported maclin would be coming back.

  171. 171 GEAGLE said at 10:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i really dont care about anyone they got rid of that much… I care that he is doing this still in year 3… new coach should have done this all the first two years..and now that its year 3 they should be building…. but we really arent building anything if every time you fill 3 holes, you create another 3… thats not how you build, thats how you run on the hamster wheel.
    .
    the bad part is with 50mil in cap space, there is no reason why we should be creating new holes.. we should have built on what we had, fill some holes, and thats how we grow as a team……now we are just running in place

  172. 172 dollamakeuholla said at 10:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    yes but in year 3 is when the contracts got out of line. he had plans to get mcourty and still has plans to get others and he saw where he was spending to much for a position. that 50 mill is to sign new players who are younger and not getting paid a ton just for what they did in the past. Again you sound like you would prefer to have Amaro run the Eagles. I enjoy reading your comments Geagle but you are typing with your heart and not your mind right now.

  173. 173 Bob Scatchard said at 11:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    relax Geagle…This is the first year Chip has had control of the whole team, I’m sure howie was reinging Chip in the first 2 years and Chip used those years as a learning experience in the NFL. Chip has a plan, let’s let him finish it and see what it looks like on Sept 2015…enjoy the ride!!

  174. 174 mksp said at 9:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Cry about it to your “source”.

  175. 175 Iskar36 said at 8:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “fuckin annoyed, to be out of the country with all this crap going on” #firstworldproblems

  176. 176 GEAGLE said at 8:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    probably a good thing that im not sorrounded by espn, sports radio nd all the football talk.. i assume im saving some money on not breaking TVs.

  177. 177 oreofestar said at 8:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We offered him a nice contract its not like told Mac to F off, It’s Chip fault we most Desean and Chips fault we lost Desean but not Mac, Mac CHOSE to turn down our offer and leave for greener pastures

  178. 178 GEAGLE said at 8:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    if this was going to happen, they should have all been cut as soon as chip arrived, or at the very least last year…. its bad enough we are just now building a defense in year 3.,… but to finally build the defense, and then take a jack hammer to the offense going into year 3 is crazy as far as im concerned…

    hopefully he is completely obsessed with getting MM and the jets or Bucs steal him, chip gets pissed and runs back to college,… that would be the ideal scenario before he can do another year or two worth of damage to our roster

  179. 179 RobNE said at 8:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    wow you are really taking this hard. Now you want Chip gone, just like that?

  180. 180 GEAGLE said at 8:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i want a coach who is smart enough to get hired, immediately demolish the team he inherrited and then start building on the new foundation he put in place.
    ..
    i dont care about the players we are losing or signing, i especially offensive players… I care that for every 3 holes we fill, 3 more are instantly created… I care about building on what we have since its year 3…… all these cuts should have been done by last offseason at the latest…

  181. 181 dollamakeuholla said at 9:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    your looking at this wrong. The reason these players are no longer worth keeping is because their contracts now are WAY out of line. Cole-11 million, Shady- 12 million, Mac got apparently offered 9 million to stay. He got offered 5 mil last year and wanted a prove it contract because he saw what jackson could do in this offense. Now we offer 4 million more since he proved it and doesn’t take it. He never had 1000 yards before chip. And do you remember that play in the beginning of the year when maclin looked like he blew his knee out again? He is injury prone. and could go down any day. I loved the dude last year but 9 million is a lot. Cobb was being called the top option at WR and he signed with GB knowing he could have gotten more. Chip kept these guys because it was worth it. Now we pay 3 RB’s the same as we would have paid Shady. I guarantee Gore gets 1200-1300 yards this year just by hitting the hole. It might not look as fancy, but fancy ain’t worth 12 million. SF wanted him back which is a good sign.

  182. 182 Dominik said at 10:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Finally, someone without a Maclin hangover.

    Chip made too crazy moves to trust him blindly, but as it stands right now, there are only two things I would criticize: too much money for Gore, too much money for Sanchez. But those aren’t big contracts.

    You simply don’t pay a WR like Maclin 11m if you’re Chip. Just because you overpay for Maxwell (and imho, it’s not that much overpay, just a little) doesn’t mean you overpay every position.

    And yes, he didn’t get McCourty. It sucks. But it was worth a try.

  183. 183 eagleyankfan said at 9:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Cox and Kendricks were traded to the Giants :). JK.

  184. 184 GEAGLE said at 7:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    did we get anyone else since we signed sanchez?

  185. 185 oreofestar said at 7:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nope

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 7:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    geez,.. its going to get to the point where i start watching the Eagles like I watch the Bills, just watch the defense, fast forward thru the offense… this dude is a clown… all his locker room crap meant nothing…. Hope foles is gone by the end of the day. Get him the hell as far away from this “genius” as possible

  187. 187 oreofestar said at 8:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We don’t know what happened, Eagles tried either Mac chased $$$ or he just didn’t want to be here that’s on Chip, he wasn’t a 1000 wr before Chip and I don’t think he will be after him either

  188. 188 GEAGLE said at 8:07 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i know this coach made Riley Coop a rich man, but pissed away Mac, Desean, and shady.
    .
    im digusted. enjoy your day, this dude is a joke… he created this situation. Mac outperformed in every way possible;.. If KC isnt paying a Ton, I wont be able to stomach this coach… Im fine with replacing every player on the field, and I never been a big Mac fan, but after how he performed and jumped through every hoop… you dont treat a quality, respected, class act like Mac like this…
    ..
    i dont wanna hear another word about Culture out of this coaches mouth… he lost that right… from now on his culture means NOTHING, so all i will judge him on is talent aquisition… if culture means nothing, then go get me the most talented criminals out there… I want DGB, the next aaron Hernadez, the ghost of lawrence taylor… I want the most talented scum of the earth possible!!!

  189. 189 oreofestar said at 8:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He was offered good money if he left for a bunch more than isn’t that Mac being about the $$$

  190. 190 GEAGLE said at 8:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    im not mad at Mac… the eagles created this monster when they jettisoned desean, tried to use Mac’s injury to lowball him into an extension, they settled on a prove it deal,. he shattered every expectation… I care about what this says to Jordan Mathews and all the other players next time chip preaches that bullshit culture crap

    hopefully the KC contract figures are out of control and they make us feel better about this… losing Mac is one thing, but to lose him to Andy and Alex smith… disgusting

  191. 191 Jernst said at 8:54 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea sad thing is that they only offered Mac like $5 mil last year on a multi year deal. I saw some reports that he would have signed for $8-9mil per year but they wouldn’t budge. Would have been real nice in retrospect to have Mac locked up long term for $8.5 mil per year for the next 4 years.

  192. 192 RobNE said at 9:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    why would we have paid 8-9M multi-year contract to a guy coming off his second ACL surgery. That would be crazy.

  193. 193 the DONALD said at 9:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    crazy like a Fox..

  194. 194 Jernst said at 9:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Like I said in retrospect/hindsight it was possible to have him locked up. Sad that he’s gone when it seemed so likely we’d be able to keep him around long term. But, you’re right, it would not have been prudent at the time. Looking back though, I wish they had.

  195. 195 tomw said at 8:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I like to call hin our little mad scientist. He is trying to see how many buttons he can push before the city blows up.

  196. 196 GEAGLE said at 8:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Doug Collins Jr..

  197. 197 tomw said at 9:04 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Could be worse than that even. I guess he can go after MM , and pull the 6er’s stunt going on now, we need a few years to rebuild.

  198. 198 xeynon said at 11:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ugh. Please don’t say that.

  199. 199 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    There hasn’t been any rumors about OLB’s. Maybe that will happen today?

  200. 200 GEAGLE said at 9:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    my guess is Brandon Graham is back

  201. 201 370HSSV 0773H said at 8:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    McCourty is re-signing with the Pats.

  202. 202 GEAGLE said at 8:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    has the next safety target been leaked yet?
    ..
    u know if searcy or Rahim igned with anyone?
    ..
    thanks.. I apreciate it…
    ..
    hopefully everything gets done today and tomorrow is just a formality, i will be traveling all day tomorrow

  203. 203 370HSSV 0773H said at 7:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Foles, Sanchez, Cooper, Huff, Gore. I’m just not feelin’ it.

  204. 204 oreofestar said at 7:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Offense looks like crap now, gotta hope there are moves

  205. 205 oreofestar said at 7:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Eagles have around 30-35 mm I’ll after Gore, Max and Sanchez so there’s that

  206. 206 oreofestar said at 8:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Potential target could be Jordan Cameron, he played wr in cillege , has size and would add an interesting dimension to the O

  207. 207 Avery Greene said at 8:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    ESP claiming the Eagles have interest in Trammon Williams.

  208. 208 oreofestar said at 8:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I saw that yesterday and I’m disgusted

  209. 209 Avery Greene said at 8:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    What about the kid from Cleveland?

  210. 210 eagleyankfan said at 8:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    what’s ESP?

  211. 211 Avery Greene said at 8:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Eliot Shor-Parks. Guy from NJ.com.

  212. 212 eagleyankfan said at 9:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    oh — lol. I don’t use that site…thanks.

  213. 213 Avery Greene said at 9:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t much, just when someone posts it to reddit.

  214. 214 Jernst said at 9:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s a good call… ESP is the worst

  215. 215 Avery Greene said at 9:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s why I put it there as full disclosure.

  216. 216 RobNE said at 8:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    NE radio this morning said we offered more than the Pats for McCourtey. I’m a little surprised we were willing to spend such big money on the top CB and safety free agents.

    They also don’t think the Pats are losing Revis and think he is significantly more important than McCourtey. How can you lose Revis when Brady only has a little time left (I hope).

  217. 217 oreofestar said at 8:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    They are so over the cap right now, even if they dump Revis and his 20mil they’ll have less than 10mil

  218. 218 RobNE said at 8:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t know the cap numbers but on radio they said the Pats are most likely to redo the deal, say 48M for 3 years, and to do that they may need to cut him/decline his option that is about to vest later today I think, but they said the Pats could (but likely would not) just absorb the option year it just would make it harder to fill out the roster.

    So I hear you, but I heard something different on the radio.

  219. 219 oreofestar said at 8:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    They’d be over the cap

  220. 220 anon said at 8:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    wonder what their deadline is a far as timing.

  221. 221 RobNE said at 8:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I believe they have to exercise the option today. They are not likely to do so, then he will be a FA tomorrow. But I bet the Pats work out a new deal with him.

  222. 222 RobNE said at 8:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    technically yes, but I read there are easy ways to fix that.

    example (from Boston.com):
    How to get under cap w/o touching Revis’ $25m cap
    1.Extend Solder (2 to 5m savings)
    2.Waive Dennard (1m savings)
    3.cut Hooman (890k savings)

    my point is just that the Pats are not going to lose him over the cap if they don’t want to.

  223. 223 anon said at 8:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    sounds like you have a to pay a premium to get free agents — maybe b/c we did our players dirty, maybe b/c CK requires so much dedication during the season, who knows. Story is MAC took less in KC to go back to Reid.

  224. 224 ACViking said at 8:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If true, that’s quite a statement by Maclin.

  225. 225 Dominik said at 10:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Everybody calm down. Schefter says 11m for Maclin. No way we were giving him 12, lol.

    It was the right move from Chip.

  226. 226 Charlie Kelly said at 8:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i hate sanchez i really do, i really do not want to see him start a game ever again. he is so.. meh.. and when he makes a bad play his head hangs like a lost puppy, so annoying.

  227. 227 eagleyankfan said at 8:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’s what drives me nuts when people say “He’ll compete” — compete for what? This guy sux. If he’s our starting QB, we’re in for a long long long season.

  228. 228 Charlie Kelly said at 8:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah i cant stand him, he is like kevin kolb, but he doesnt get hurt!! wtf!!! lmfao

  229. 229 MattE said at 8:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Everyone seeing the Kaepernick talk?

  230. 230 anon said at 8:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    thoughts?

  231. 231 MattE said at 8:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    His contract is interesting…. he can be cut after each year or some “Ricky Williams” type of ludicrous legal language lol. Canon for an arm and long strider. Brains not so impressed lol.

  232. 232 anon said at 8:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah but so much $$. Also mentally would not call him “peyton manning”

  233. 233 MattE said at 8:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    not gonna lie though. i think he could go for 1,000 rushing and 3,000 passing in Kelly’s offense lol.

  234. 234 anon said at 8:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    probably could, but it would be like when vick was running it, except he’d be healthy.

  235. 235 bill said at 9:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Vick was a much better decision maker than Kaep. Kaep quite often fixates on his first read and just lets it rip, no matter if the guy is triple covered or not. People complain about Foles missing his fourth read – if Kaep is starter, get ready to watch a lot of wide open second reads get missed on picks thrown into triple coverage.

  236. 236 A_T_G said at 9:29 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Luckily, with our new WR core, we won’t have to worry about receivers being wide open to get missed.

  237. 237 MattE said at 8:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    whats all this B.S. about Chicago being interested in every QB that we are named with?

  238. 238 MattE said at 8:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    …other thoughts. not gettin mccourty hurts.

  239. 239 RobNE said at 8:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kaepernick and his contract make no sense. I’m still on the MM train.

  240. 240 MattE said at 8:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    it was handled by Master-P

  241. 241 ACViking said at 8:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kaepy’s hands are too small for Kelly. Only 9.125 inches

  242. 242 tomw said at 8:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have a win win situation with MM now . If the eagles get him and he stinks, you can just say he had no one to throw to. If the eagles don’t get him you can blame the QB’s for not being any good.

  243. 243 James said at 8:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    It doesn’t hurt Baalke if he denies the rumor’s I would assume. So by him merely denying it could be more of a smokescreen.

  244. 244 Avery Greene said at 8:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    At least I’m not the only one confused…

    Craziest offseason I've seen since I traded @DeionSanders for @marshallfaulk and three 1st round picks in my Madden 2002 season!— Emmanuel Acho (@thEMANacho) March 9, 2015

  245. 245 Avery Greene said at 8:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    At least I’m not the only one confused…

    Craziest offseason I've seen since I traded @DeionSanders for @marshallfaulk and three 1st round picks in my Madden 2002 season!— Emmanuel Acho (@thEMANacho) March 9, 2015

  246. 246 Jernst said at 8:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m pretty upset we weren’t able to keep Maclin. I really never thought he’d leave. I figured the Eagles would give him a fair deal in the $9mil range and he’d be happy to stay somewhere where he put up career numbers and would continue to be the clear cut #1 WR.

    At the same time, Maclin was also more of high end #2 WR than a clear #1. Before Chip got here he was a 60 catch 850-950 yard guy with around 8TDs per year. He was inconsistent with both his effort and his production. I’m always weary of giving career #2 guys #1 type money coming off of a career year in a contract year. I’ll be interested to see what Maclins deal from KC ends up being. If he got $12mil per year, then good for him, I don’t think he was worth that at all. Especially to us, in an offense that seems to take career #2 WRs and gets top level production out of them.

    All comes down to what Chip does between now and week one. If the Eagles sign Andre Johnson for $8mil per year for the next 2-3 years, I actually see that as an upgrade on Maclin for substantially less money. If, as has been loosely rumored recently that Mike Evans might be involved with a trade up with the Bucs, then I’m pretty happy. A WR corps of Evans, Matthews, Huff (who I expect a big leap from this year) and Cooper is pretty darn good. If We stand pat and Jeff Maehl is our 4th WR with Matthews and either Cooper or Huff starting outside I’m legitimately concerned.

  247. 247 anon said at 8:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i think chip has being principled.

  248. 248 James said at 8:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Where did this random, laughable trade with bucs that includes Evans come from?

  249. 249 anon said at 8:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    thats the one where we trade all of our picks in 15-17 for #1 and mike evans

  250. 250 MattE said at 8:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    oh that old tune.

  251. 251 James said at 8:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Come on… we are smarter than that to know that is just ridiculous.

  252. 252 MattE said at 8:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    now a trade for Vincent Jackson i dont think is so out of the realm of possibility.

  253. 253 James said at 8:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That I could see, but the fact that he is letting young quality WRs walk would indicate he wouldnt go for older ones.

  254. 254 MattE said at 8:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    if the “Trade” were to ever happen i think a Vjax salary dump would be part of the plan in discussions with TB.

  255. 255 anon said at 8:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he doesnt want to pay $11m maclin is all. or should we overpay for guys just because?

  256. 256 James said at 9:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well see what the numbers truly are soon. Wouldn’t you want to overpay for maclin and then cut Cooper come June? That would save you 5 mil, then they can draft another receiver in a deep class.

  257. 257 MattE said at 9:02 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Andre Johnson @ $8mill? I’m cool with that.

  258. 258 anon said at 9:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    there’s other guys. paying maclin 11 leaves you less room to pay for D / OL. CK is an offensive genius, schemes average WRS open. why pay for super expensive guys.

  259. 259 Jernst said at 9:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea not likely by any means…just trying to rationalize my disgust right now. I’m in the rationalize/bargaining stage of grief. Just trying to remind myself that the offseason isn’t over yet and likely there is a plan in place to not have JMatt and Cooper as our top WRs with Maehl, Huff and Pratt as top back ups. Gotta wait and see what we look like two months from now, might be a lot different. As it stands now we’re one JMatt injury away from trotting out the worst receiving corps in the history of the NFL.

  260. 260 James said at 8:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    It will be interesting to see if Chip targets a FA WR or is he completely for drafting and developing young cost controlled WR’s. It would seem that it is the least important position on Offense in his eyes.

  261. 261 P_P_K said at 10:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Matthews is also going to take a big leap forward.

  262. 262 daveH said at 8:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    the thought that Sanchez is part of the plan, part of the solution is demoralizing.
    gross

  263. 263 GEAGLE said at 9:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i can stomach that more then I can stomach out of shady, desean, Maclin and Coop, Riley is the one THAT got PAID.
    ..
    lost shady, desean and Maclin and we have kiko to show for it?

    if the day chip was hired we knew we would be losing Desean, Mac and Shady.. it would have raised some eyebrows, but atleast we would be thinking that we would get some valuable draft picks to help build his new team…. whateverm i vented, im over it… Ill enjoy the defense while i can before the “genius” says we can win without Fletcher Cox

  264. 264 Avery Greene said at 9:07 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Roseman handles the contracts, so I don’t know if it’s CK or Roseman. CK may have said to sign him, and Roseman gave him more than he should have.

  265. 265 tomw said at 9:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Cox and Kendricks for Kap. That way we get to watch another QB run around like a chicken without a head.

  266. 266 GEAGLE said at 9:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    do what you want on offense… screw with my defense and ill move to buffalo if i have to πŸ™‚

  267. 267 tomw said at 9:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I was joking. But who knows, now.

  268. 268 daveH said at 9:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I was told many times this season to get over desean already .. I agree w you .. but better move for Shady & Mac personally,, so I am very glad for them to be in better places..
    ..
    im starting to hate my team .. I simply cant cheer for sanchez

  269. 269 GEAGLE said at 9:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    paying coop whle losing those 3 is the real kick in the nuts for me… especially when i only wanted us to keep Coop is for his chemistry with our developing young Foles.
    .
    if chip knew he would tarde whatever he had to, to get MM, why even pay Coop…. we gave him a nice contract to keep him from reaching free agency as if anyone was really going to overvalue him like us…we could have ended up possibly getting Coop cheaper if we let him hit the open market and he didnt find a big market.. which is what might happen with BG this year…… you pay Coop handsomely to keep him off the market and you allow it to get to this point with Mac? hopefully Cox and kendrcks are extended in October.. I dont trust letting them get to free agency with this coach here/.
    ..
    cant imagine what Philly sports radio will sound like right now

  270. 270 Dominik said at 10:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Calm down, mate. Cooper was a mistake. Paying Mac 11m would be a mistake, too. Better not making the same mistake twice.

    Coopers contract sucks. We all know that. Chip knows that. But we can’t do anything about it until next year.

    Chip shouldn’t make more mistakes – and he started by not making the mistake of paying Maclin 11m (that number is from Schefter, so it’s true…)

  271. 271 RobNE said at 8:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Like someone said yesterday, it’s all the spin.

    one take: Maclin bought into the program, became a true # 1 and Chip wouldn’t pay him.

    another take: Self-tacklin Maclin had his best season ever b/c of Chip’s system (and Chip having cut DeSean), and Chip doesn’t value WR’s as much as other teams. This is the Patriot Way.

    another take: anywhere in between. Example: Chip would pay but Maclin was loyal to his coach.

    I’m just a little surprised that self-tacklin Maclin not being on the team is making people want the coach fired. I’d prefer we re-sign him but this is not the end of the world.

  272. 272 Avery Greene said at 9:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I feel the same way. If he took less money to go elsewhere, that’s not on the Eagles.

  273. 273 James said at 9:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s really not the end all, I’m with you. For me I am trying to figure out his true intentions and his plan B. Chip is going to be successful no matter what. But if he hedges multiple talent in the draft for MM and we have the same skill players as we have now on the roster; then I will start to freak out.

  274. 274 GEAGLE said at 9:00 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    remove the individual moves and decisions on players out of the equation..

    Id be pretty curious to see Hinkie and Rosemans thoughts on chips team nuilding process. I dont care to hear them judge each individual player decision, but strictly from a program building view point, Id be interested in knowing What hinkie and Roseman think of the “franchise building” part of these last 3 years under chip

    what Id give to be a fly on the wall of Howies office aka the former Janitors closet on the other side of Novacare.. Curious to know how Roseman feels about all this…… this model is the opposite of the hinkie model
    ..
    hinkie model is about being honest with yourself, if you dont have a team to challenge for a SB this year, Hinkie would admit it, and make only moves that improve our Future. Basically hinkie sacrafices the present for future winning… chip did the opposite, came in, won immediately even tho we werent going to win a SB chip made most of his moves for the present obviously, if its year 3 and we are still partially on the demolition phase…
    ..
    feel like we wasted two years when we should have been building something…what good is getting excited about filling a major hole with a stud, if for every 3 holes you fill, you instantly create 3 more..

  275. 275 RobNE said at 9:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t know what do your sources say?

  276. 276 Bert's Bells said at 10:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://farm1.staticflickr.com/73/162935562_daf31c14c3.jpg

  277. 277 eagleyankfan said at 9:12 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “wasted two years” — wasn’t the whole point of moving Howie out? Wasn’t he the one responsible for the last two years? Or are you saying, what Howie did the last two years is now wasted?

  278. 278 CrackSammich said at 9:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “remove the individual moves and decisions on players out of the equation”

    Convenient.

  279. 279 Alistair Middlemiss said at 9:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    There is a huge difference between the NBA and the NFL’s roster construction. NBA you need 2-3 stars with quality ‘pieces’ around them, and if you have 0 pieces you have no way of acquiring more except through the draft and they tend to be the top 3 picks. Once you have drafted 2 ‘stars’ then you can finish the roster with free agents who will flock to join you.

    The NFL is anything but that – it is a 53 man roster and your roster needs to be 30+ deep because teams will find and attack that weakest player. Draft position and importance is overblown with Fans, because top picks get the sizzle and are well known, but the reality is it is a crap shoot, top 1st round picks bust nearly as often as lower 1st round picks.

    Seattle and NE’s rosters were not built with loads of first round high picks, but hit with mid round talent. If high draft position was all that mattered Detroit and the Rams will be winning superbowls.

  280. 280 GEAGLE said at 9:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    if its true that chip kelly plan on drafting tons of draft picks away, and think he will build a contender thru free agency, thats a dangerous game.. Not many teams have built championships off of free agency…. Hopefully “the genius” can consistently invest in the Right free agents and make it work,…. but there isnt much precedent for winning SB’s that way

    if he is hell bent on drafting a QB, i would hope he just takes hundley. rather than trade away our ability to build thru the draft… if you are going to blowup half your offense, probably going to need some draft picks to replace your offense, if you are busy building your defense in free agency

  281. 281 mksp said at 9:39 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Heh. So what are you “hearing”?

  282. 282 Amar said at 9:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    NFL News: Pernell McPhee to #Bears on five-year, $40 million deal, nearly $16 million guaranteed – via Aaron Wilson

  283. 283 GEAGLE said at 9:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    WOW…he only got 16mil Guaranteed? bad news for BG looking to cash in..

  284. 284 GEAGLE said at 9:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    now that the other shoe has dropped, we can judge the complete picture:
    ..
    Traded: Shady
    Received: Kiko, Gore and 5mil worth of cap space.
    ..
    good move?

    even with the full picture i still dont know what to make of it.
    Love Kiko
    Love not paying 11mil for a RB
    ..
    shady is a better RB then Gore. He is now, and he still was 3 years ago, but stylistically speaking, i do like Gores style of play for us more then shady’s electrifying ability… in theory Gore should add some toughness on the field and in the locker room. Should improve short yardage/goal line offense.. Kiko is a just an awesome addition(as long as he has a healthy eagle career of course)
    Gore/Sproles, the cliche thunder and LIghtning Tandem probably makes more sense then sproles and shady, stylistically speaking of course..

    now the Devil advocate:
    1) 32yr old RB, who now not only has to play at a crazy tempo, but he has to practice at the tempo every day for like 8 months…can his body hold up, will he still have some juice in the tank come december?
    2) we are paying 5mil for Gore, sproles is our 3rd down back,…. for the money we are paying Gore, whats a realistic amount of Carries that we will be giving him on average in games? 10-12 carries per game?

    when we traded shady, we were left with Polk and sproles, two backs Im glad to have… I was more expecting us to pay like 500k a year for the next 4 years from a rookie 4th round RB………..but since we paid Gore, Im starting to worry if Polk is on his way out to make room for a rookie, and id hate to see polk go before we can really see what he can do given some decent playing time….. then again, this coach probably will trade the next 7 drafts for a QB so who knows when we will have a pick to spend on a RB lol

    if Polk,Sproles and Gore are all here this year, I cant imagne all 3 being back for another year after this next season.. one of the 3 will have to get the axe to make room for the next rookie RB …..so for this next year, i can see keeping our 3 RBsm but after this year atleast 1 of the 3 will need to be cut…

  285. 285 RobNE said at 9:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    They can’t just wait and HAVE to draft a RB, that is terrible drafting strategy. I think you are right, if the RB is there and is taken in the draft, it’s Polk’s job in trouble. I always wanted Polk to get more chances, but with all these changes I can’t get too upset about RB3 (or RB2 if you exclude Sproles). I don’t see him every day.

    By signing Gore, Chip is saying you better believe I plan to compete this year. Don’t we all want that, the balance between competing now and later? He has half the cap hit, a better running style and we picked up a fast play maker, young cost controlled ILB.

    I still love these moves.

  286. 286 P_P_K said at 10:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    “By signing Gore, Chip is saying you better believe I plan to compete this year.”

    Good point.

  287. 287 anon said at 9:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Pass Rushing: are we even interested in any of these guys?

  288. 288 GEAGLE said at 9:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    if McPhee is only getting 16mil guaranteed, think it gives us a better chance at being able to get a decent pass rusher…
    ..
    BG cant be too happy seeing McPhee sign for 16mil guaranteed

  289. 289 anon said at 9:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    secretly i think we get BG after he sees there’s no market.

  290. 290 GEAGLE said at 9:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i been thinking the same thing to tell you the truth….. market for him was really quiet this weekend… only rumor i saw for BG was that the giants had interest

  291. 291 Jernst said at 9:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is there a reason we couldn’t put a transition tag on Mac? Avoid the big cap hit of the franchise and still keep him or get something in return for him. Is it just not wanting to piss him off. Were we just over confident we would sign him or did we just not care? I just hate that we lost DeSean, Shady and Maclin for Kiko and no other assets. If I knew we would lose all three I’d be ok with it, but id expect a major haul of picks to allow us to rebuild a team in Chips image. As it stands now I feel like we’re just relieving ourselves of top talent just for the sake of doing so and for cap space. I really like Chip but I feel like his understanding or feel for player worth and his ability to maximize return on investments is severely lacking.

  292. 292 GEAGLE said at 9:39 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    good post

  293. 293 anon said at 9:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    no comp pick with a transition tag.

  294. 294 Jernst said at 12:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    My mistake I thought there was a tag option for less money that also would require another team to give us less than 2 first round picks if the player was signed.

  295. 295 A_T_G said at 9:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The transition tag just gives us the opportunity to match the offer, doesn’t it? If we already made the highest offer we were going to pay, what is the advantage of the tag?

  296. 296 bill said at 9:54 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I also assume Mac told the Eagles that he would give them a chance to match any offer (technically, he couldn’t be forced to sign on the line until tomorrow, anyway).

  297. 297 James said at 9:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chip has drafted Matt Barkley and retained Mark Sanchez. Basically the same players. 6’2, cant run, west coast offense quarterbacks. They are the opposite of what he recruited in college. Wouldnt that suggest that he want’s pocket quaterbacks for the NFL? How could he have MM as a starting QB and then Sanchez as the backup; the offensive play calls would completely change would it not?

  298. 298 anon said at 9:39 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    why?

  299. 299 deshawnbentley said at 10:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not exactly. Offensive plays would stay identical. Situational calls would be tailored to what the qb excels in. in a small sample, Vick ran the same plays as Foles. The only limit to a slow qb is that on the zone read the qb’s realistic chance to run for a big gain is diminished. Remember how Russ Wilson audibled then took it to the left for a td. That’s what a mobile qb gives you the option to do.

    It’s not that chip can’t operate without a mobile qb. But the element of being able to run from the qb position keeps the defense still just a bit longer than they otherwise would which is all a NFL qb needs to burn the defense. Now couple this with an arm to make the necessary downfield throws, the accuracy to place the ball consistently in a given spot, and the ability to read and manipulate defenses and you have the optimal chip qb. Mariota fits this mold

  300. 300 Jernst said at 12:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Same way he had Vick at starter with Foles backing him up

  301. 301 Avery Greene said at 9:39 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I found a picture of CK this offseason.

    http://i.imgur.com/nKPLOME.gif

  302. 302 A_T_G said at 10:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He looks thinner. It must be the backlighting.

  303. 303 mksp said at 9:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jeff McLane ‏@Jeff_McLane 2m2 minutes ago
    Sounds like Jeremy Maclin got that $11 million per year, or close to it, he was looking for. Source says more than Randall Cobb ($10 mil).

    Sheil Kapadia ‏@SheilKapadia 4m4 minutes ago
    Per @AdamSchefter on SportsCenter, Chiefs will play Maclin in the vicinity of $11M per season.

  304. 304 Avery Greene said at 9:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Then that’s why he left. I like Mac, but not at $11 mill.

  305. 305 RobNE said at 9:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I agree. Nice player. Not $11M player.

  306. 306 mksp said at 9:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yep

  307. 307 A_T_G said at 9:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    So we lost both DeSean and Mac because Andy Reid pays WRs too much? Awesome.

  308. 308 Bert's Bells said at 10:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s still making penance for McMullen/Mitchell/Pinkston/Na Brown/et cetera

  309. 309 CrackSammich said at 9:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Regarding players who take less money to stay where they’re at… Players know that if your cap number gets too high at the end of the contract, you’re going to be cut or traded, with the best case scenario being that you restructure for less money. I don’t begrudge McCourty for staying at a team that won’t trade him (though Pats might be a bad example after the Nate Soldier trade, McCourty has got to know about Asante Samuel’s contract running him out of town here) or Maclin taking a deal with Andy, who will never, ever cut him. More money does not always mean more money.

    *Note: at the time I wrote this, it’s still assumed that Maclin signed for less money tan he would have gotten here.

  310. 310 RobNE said at 9:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    why did Bills give McCoy a new deal? just b/c he was pouting?

  311. 311 ICDogg said at 9:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Oh, he probably got more up front cash, and the Bills probably got some cap space to use.

  312. 312 RobNE said at 9:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    ok that makes sense.

  313. 313 CrackSammich said at 10:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Bills.

  314. 314 eagleyankfan said at 9:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mcphee going to the bears…16 mil guaranteed…

  315. 315 mksp said at 9:53 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    You would have hoped Mac would be willing to stay in Philly for $10mm per if he took $11mm to go to KC.

    If your guys aren’t willing to give you hometown discounts like Cobb / McCourty did (and Kelce did last season) it can cause cap problems down the line.

    I hope Chip understands this. He’s got some “Culture” repairing to do I think.

  316. 316 RobNE said at 9:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think his hometown is Andy not Chip. That doesn’t mean Chip is wrong or bad or anything.

    Plus, Maclin can still sign with us on Wed right?

  317. 317 anon said at 9:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    hahahah

  318. 318 Mac said at 10:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    KC is double hometown for Mac.

  319. 319 RobNE said at 10:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    right so we shouldn’t complain that he didn’t stay. If he also got more money, then what can we do.

  320. 320 GermanEagle said at 10:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Loooooool!

  321. 321 mksp said at 10:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well played.

  322. 322 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think it is a sign of things to come. I personally think that the WR is ‘inflated’ at the moment, and they get paid too much compared to the impact they have on the game. Getting cheaper there when seem to have a constant stream of talented rookies coming into the league makes a lot of sense.

    Matthews – Cooper – Huff – Celek – Ertz – Sproles is not the worst group of pass catchers in the league. Do we need more talent outside? hell yeah but we can draft that or sign a 1-2 year rental.

    Matthews – 1100yard
    Cooper – 600yards
    Huff – 600yards
    Ertz – 700 yards
    Celek – 500 yards
    Sproles – 500 yards

    Is definately possible for this group – and would get us 4000 yards of passing. add in a free agent or rookie to improve that and we will be ‘ok’

  323. 323 bill said at 10:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well argued. I’m still skeptical, if only because those numbers would require a very good decision maker at QB to achieve that much distribution.

  324. 324 ICDogg said at 10:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think your initial point about WRs being overvalued is correct. Your estimates on production are going to be difficult to meet from this bunch of guys, though. And with all the talent coming into the league we would still need to have the draft picks available to get it, which we may not have if we make the drastic move for Mariota.

  325. 325 mksp said at 10:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Okay, this makes more sense:

    Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 17s18 seconds ago
    Am told Eagles were hovering just below $10M per year on Maclin, with KC moving to $11M range, enough to make move.

  326. 326 James said at 10:24 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Guess it comes down to guarantees. If they were similar and he left, then that’s just a Maclin personal issue

  327. 327 myartz04 said at 10:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the most interesting part of all of this is Chip waiting until year 3 to blow this thing g up. Most successful coaches that start a new team usually blow up the whole roster and start from scratch. I would be curious to know if Chip wanted to do this 2 years ago instead of now.

  328. 328 CrackSammich said at 10:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He showed a couple years of success, which buys him a much longer leash to do what he wants now.

  329. 329 myartz04 said at 10:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good point, but ultimately I wonder if Chip is thinking “I could have done this 2 years ago.”

  330. 330 CrackSammich said at 10:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sure, but would he have been allowed to do it 2 years ago? Roseman was in charge, and Roseman most likely liked where his team was headed. It’s certainly not his anymore…

  331. 331 Dominik said at 10:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Exactly. You think Lurie just says to Chip in Year 1: here you go, trade or cut everyone you want.

    It doesn’t work this way. Chip showed everyone that his ideas can work in the NFL, now he’s doing things his way. We’ll see how that turns out, but I won’t cry about not paying a guy like Maclin 11m.

  332. 332 xeynon said at 11:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not sure about that. If he blew up the team in 2013 and went 5-11 his first year, nobody would think twice – they were 4-12 the year before. Now that he’s coming off back-to-back 10 win seasons a mediocre or bad record will be seen as a significant step back.

  333. 333 b3nz0z said at 11:36 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    disagree. intelligent people would have given him time, but as soon as one boo-bird read a fan-piece on bleacherreport comparing him to spurrier there would have been a mild freakout. and the philly sports press would have polls up by October 2013 asking “was signing chip a huge mistake?” and then Peter King would report it as fact.

  334. 334 xeynon said at 12:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have a fair point, but I think patience would win out.

    If he goes 6-10 this season (a distinct possibility with a rookie QB and a supporting cast around him less talented than last season’s), I don’t know that it will. The howls for Chip’s head will be loud and furious. The heat is going to be on him this year in a big, big way.

  335. 335 b3nz0z said at 12:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    no disagreement here

  336. 336 GEAGLE said at 10:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    thats my real only problem with any of this… i dont really give a crap about any of the players we lost… I care that its being done now.. demolition phase should take place first 2 years of a coaches tenure and then he builds over it… we wasted two years doing nothing, and now he is blowing this up? he can cut any offensive player he wants for all I care with the exception of foles, Lane, Ertz and Jordan…… but I care that we wasted two years, and are now doing this all in year 3, when I have been patiently giving him time to build however he wanted in the first two years… now that we are in year 3, we should be filling holes and building on the moves chip made the 1st two years… instead for every hole that is filled a new one is created, and I cant stomach that in year 3…not when i would have supported him cutting whoever the hell he wanted the first two years,as long as we understand that year 3 a coach needs to start being judged on results…. now what, we are supposed to rewind the clock, give him another two years and startto hold him accountable for winning when exactly? year 5?

  337. 337 myartz04 said at 10:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Have a feeling Howie wanted to keep his ‘core’

  338. 338 GEAGLE said at 10:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    this is really my only beef with any of this… i dont care so much about the talent we lost, I care that its done now… Moves that i despise Now, i would have fully supported a new coach doing during his first two years.. I hoped we were all past that and we were going to spend money strengthen this team and try to contend next year… but we arent strengthening our team like this, we are merely shifting strengths and weakness around to differnt positions.. when in reality we had the money to keep the pieces that worked and some money on top to add some nice talent, actually building on our 20 win teams in the first two years.. i hate the Timing, I hate the effects these moves can have on our locker room…. which is why I would have so much rather this happened in the first two years so we could be past it by now and ready to compete in 2015….instead i feel like we are on the hamster wheel, instead of building we merely create new strengths, and new weaknesses.. when in year 3 we should be only worried about plugging some holes without creating to many other ones

  339. 339 RobNE said at 10:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    the timing is when the contracts got more out of whack.

  340. 340 b3nz0z said at 11:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    it’s not a fun answer, but maybe he needed time to adjust his vision at the NFL level and to see where he needs playmakers versus where he needs “adequate” guys. at my job i didn’t know as much about the organization one year in as i do after two years.

  341. 341 Ben Hert said at 11:13 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe that time was for Chip to adjust his game, not just to prove that he can be successful. I’d like to think he wanted to get his feet wet in the NFL with the players he had, and see the types of players he needed to make it work. I think he’s seen that now, he’s seen what Nick Foles can do, he’s seen what the players we have can do, and he wants to go in a different direction.

    Its the same principle with Lurie giving Chip time to perfect his methods and prove that he can be a winner. He gave players time to prove that they can work in a 3-4, buy into his system, and work with what his vision was with the team.

    I won’t claim to have any insight into his plan, but to me this makes a lot of sense. We praise him for his ability to think and adjust his game, maybe that past two years were just that, and now he knows what he wants, knows what he thinks can be successful, and is pursuing it.

    I feel very uncomfortable with this offseason, but I’m willing to let it all play out and not jump down his or anyone else in the organization’s throat until its all played out this fall.

  342. 342 RobNE said at 10:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he didn’t have personnel control. He also may have reasonably wanted to get a feel for the league before he made drastic changes.

    I mean, it’s not like we all are going anywhere. If he gets it right now, can we all really complain that he should have done this in year 1.

  343. 343 myartz04 said at 10:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I really like Chip and don’t mind this at all. Just hope we can all be patient enough to see his plan realized.

  344. 344 mksp said at 10:42 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He didn’t have control yet. Howie was still running personnel and they tried to build a team with 2nd and 3rd tier players. Chip maxed out that squad, so here we are.

  345. 345 GermanEagle said at 10:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Our Mr. ‘High Percentage’ might get a heartache… Eagles were shopping Foles at the senior bowl…

  346. 346 ICDogg said at 10:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s what a few people are saying now…

  347. 347 fran35 said at 3:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I hope Lurie realizes that if this crazy Chip Kelly experiment comes apart in 3 years and he runs back to college, this franchise will be set back for years. And for anyone who thinks that the Chippah won’t cut bait when he realizes his genius is only genius in college, they are mistaken. The guy was non committal in regards to coming to the NFL anyway. MM may turn out ot be a stud, he may turn out to be another version of Kapernick(albeit with less tattoos). But if we give up a serviceable young QB who has proven that he can win for MM, plus a boatload of draft picks, this has the makings of a “do or die” situation for MM and Chip Kelly. Not liking the odds. Plus, are we asking MM to take the field with Riley Cooper as his only proven (relative term) outside WR right now?

  348. 348 mksp said at 10:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nick + Picks to TEN, Bucs to #2 and Eagles to #1. Just like I said yesterday. Get it done CHIP.

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/3/9/8174857/nick-foles-trade-rumors-eagles-quarterback-rams-titans-texans-senior-bowl-interest

  349. 349 RobNE said at 10:29 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think maybe the move is to Jets #6, then up from there. We’ll see. However it happens, just so it happens.

  350. 350 James said at 10:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    And we are just hearing about this report all the sudden? Seems convenient for the media.

  351. 351 the DONALD said at 10:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    grab Evans somehow in that trade too? would be nice.

  352. 352 ICDogg said at 10:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Patrick Willis going to retire

  353. 353 GermanEagle said at 10:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow.

  354. 354 Ark87 said at 12:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    damn, wonder if he’ll get into the Hall. He was the defacto best ILB/MLB (were they a 4-3 at one point?) for most of his career until this past year or 2. If he doesn’t I don’t know what ILB/MLB does.

  355. 355 D3FB said at 3:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Problem is I don’t know if he had the longevity.

  356. 356 Ark87 said at 4:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    exactly my concern, doesn’t really have that staple moment in his career either. Just consistently being the best for the majority of his what suddenly feels a little short (for such a great player) career.

  357. 357 ACViking said at 12:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is this injury driven?

    Or something else?

    He just turned 30 in late January.

    Eight years in the NFL. Pro Bowl the first 7. All Pro 5 of those 7.

  358. 358 Jernst said at 12:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He was on injured reserve last year with a severe big toe problem that’s chronic

  359. 359 ICDogg said at 10:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    @LesBowen Sure. A Maserati is worth what the market says, doesn't mean it's worth that to me. Pickup truck more useful. Depends on need.— Tony Tancredi (@Byter21) March 9, 2015

  360. 360 Bert's Bells said at 10:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Markets are wrong all of the time.

    It’s pure falsehood to when people parrot “the market is always right”. Simply not true.

  361. 361 Anders said at 10:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The market would be more right if there wasnt a cap and there was only a finite number of teams (see soccer, market is much more right in general than the NFL)

  362. 362 Bert's Bells said at 11:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t know anything about soccer, but in US sports bad deals are made all of the time regardless of cap.

    Baseball has (virtually) no cap and you see teams make crazy deals all of the time.

    Markets, in fact, guess wrong more often than they’re right. They’re fixed in the favor of banking/finance/government interests so that those players always win regardless of outcome. It’s like Vegas -sometimes you’ll find a gambler on a lucky streak who comes out ahead. Mostly you don’t. The house always wins.

  363. 363 Ark87 said at 11:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    More specifically, a contract goes well past the immediate market state.

    Cary William’s contract was true to the market at the time, but it was a lousy FA class for CB and everyone needed a CB (we were deperate).

    It’s less like buy a car and more like buying stock. We’ve gotten in a bad habit of buying high and watching player’s value plummet. So every year after the contract there are questions if we will actually pay the contract, restructure, or cut the player. Maxwell will likely be talked of like this in a year or 2.

  364. 364 Jernst said at 12:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Market is also skewed when one team offers something way above market. $9mil for Maclin was fair. $10mil with the recent Cobb signing was slightly above for both guys, but still reasonable. $11 plus was way out of line for Mac. Doubt anyone that wasn’t as desparate as KC would have offered that.

  365. 365 GEAGLE said at 10:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    any WRs anyone actually like on the market? i know the big names are crab tree and Torrey, but I dont really like either for what i expect they will be making during this next contract…

    not much talent left out tere…Denariuos Moore? Cecil Short? i would actually like to see Cecil in this offense but i feel like he is always injured..

  366. 366 GermanEagle said at 10:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    no need to worry. It’s still time until Wed when Mac will re-sign with the eagles.

  367. 367 BreakinAnklez said at 10:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We get it.

  368. 368 GermanEagle said at 10:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m being serious. Nothing is official until tomorrow. Wouldn’t surprise me if we see another Bentley scenario….

  369. 369 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    wow. I remember that. We dodged a bullet with that one.

  370. 370 GermanEagle said at 11:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    But hindsight has the Eagles being lucky passing on LeCharles who shortly blew out his knee after signing his multi million $$$ contract! Sadly he never recovered from that…

  371. 371 BreakinAnklez said at 11:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t say he would have blown out his knee with us

  372. 372 mksp said at 10:40 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nah, not yet.

  373. 373 RobNE said at 10:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Andre Johnson

  374. 374 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:30 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe the Eagles can have Erik Decker as a throw-in for a Mariota trade.

  375. 375 fran35 said at 11:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wait, I thought we are in a holding pattern until Wednesday when Maclin resigned with us? Has your perspective changed? What are your “sources” telling you now?

  376. 376 tomw said at 12:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    There are some good ones in the draft this year again.

  377. 377 dollamakeuholla said at 10:39 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Everyone! RELAX!!!!! Maclin Obvioulsy wanted to go back to his home state and it just so happens his old coach runs a team there. IF he took the same or less to go to KC then there is nothing we could do. The last report that came out was Sanchez and Maclin were coming back and would be reported later that night. Then all of a sudden KC comes in and offer the same thing or whatever they could muster. And Maclin Jumped on it. He is going to an offense where he never had 1000 yards and just had a year where they didn’t have a TD from a WR. He wants to go home. That is not Chip’s fault or the Eagles. He was in their plans from the start and thought they had a deal in place. This deal would have been done a while ago if Maclin didn’t switch agents. His old agent works VERY WELL with the eagles.

    In Regards to why wait for 3 years to re build.? Is this really a re build? We are getting rid of players whose contracts are WAY out of line. That is what we bashed amaro for doing and ruining the phillies after just 3 years ago having 104 wins. Shady at 12 million with 1319 yards or Gore at 3.75million with 1106 yards and with 57 less carries then shady. Yes i would have loved to keep Shady but not at 12 million. and maclin at 9 million i thought was too much when i thought he was re signing with us. Maclin was a 70 catch 900 yard receiver before Chip. He can find another one of those no problem. Relax this isn’t a step backwards. our defense is already getting better and he will find a WR to take maclin’s spot. And Maclin will be watching Sportscenter one friday in KC eating his Burger King and seeing the Eagles #1 wideout blowing out his stats while reading the KC times about how overpaid he is.

  378. 378 RobNE said at 10:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    good post

    is that photo from the 1970’s though?

  379. 379 dollamakeuholla said at 10:41 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    However i will be pissed if we trade Kendricks during the draft. Then i might have a problem. Because Kendricks and KIKO are gonna be nasty together. It is just odd that Demeco is still there. Makes me think.?!

  380. 380 myartz04 said at 10:52 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t forget, trade isn’t official til tomorrow…just in case something happens in the trade process it is insurance to keep him. Beyond that, it makes you wonder. Would hr le be on board for a backup role?

  381. 381 ICDogg said at 10:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Crabtree would be interesting to me, depending of course on what he would cost. He’ll be in the DeMeco situation of being in the 2nd year after an Achilles tear (when we got him).

  382. 382 BreakinAnklez said at 11:07 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t think he’s a good locker room guy

  383. 383 ICDogg said at 11:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Does he eat lunch in his car or something?

  384. 384 BreakinAnklez said at 11:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nnamdi makes him sit in the back seat

  385. 385 anon said at 10:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    andre johnson hitting hte market today

  386. 386 James said at 10:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Would be a fun pickup. asking price, 5M per?

  387. 387 anon said at 10:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’d be nice. can join the old folks home.

  388. 388 GermanEagle said at 10:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes, please.

  389. 389 fran35 said at 11:03 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yuck. Sorry dude. If this were 2009, please. He’s got no wheels anymore.

  390. 390 anon said at 11:05 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he’s still got stats.

  391. 391 fran35 said at 11:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I mean, I am not against the signing if it is a reasonable deal. He seems like a great guy and will fit in with #culture. I just hope and pray that is not our answer to losing Maclin and Jaccpot in consecutive years. As it stands now, we have absolutely zero deep threats. Maclin was two steps down from Desean as a deep threat, but he was still respectable in the area. Jordan Matthews does not have the wheels for that. I really have no clue what we are doing, but our skill positions have really become pedestrian in the last few years.

  392. 392 A_T_G said at 11:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Huff? Ertz? Those guys can stretch the defense.

  393. 393 ICDogg said at 11:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    They can stretch a bad defense into a good defense, in fact.

  394. 394 Jernst said at 12:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ehh…to an extent. Neither is really a true deep threat that can run by CBs and hold a safeties attention.

  395. 395 fran35 said at 6:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ertz, while a weapon, doesn’t take the top off of a defense. He is a good tight end, but it is hard for a tight end to modify a defense the way a fast wr on the outside can do. And there is nothing about Huff that has made me believe that he has the ability to take a safety with him on a deep route. To even make that jump, I would have to believe he could consistently catch the ball deep. The kid struggles with the simple catches, I don’t think he can be relied upon to mitigate Maclin’s loss.

  396. 396 Mac said at 11:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can smoothies fix hammy issues?

  397. 397 GermanEagle said at 11:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Smoothies beats Hammies.

  398. 398 Bert's Bells said at 11:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sign Johnson, trade him to Tampa for Mariota pick.

  399. 399 A_T_G said at 11:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe we could sign Stevie Johnson and Crabtree, too and bundle the players so they throw in Evans. Sounds fair to me.

  400. 400 anon said at 11:25 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’s how it works in fantasy.

  401. 401 anon said at 11:10 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    apparently they put foles on the block at the senior bowl.

  402. 402 Alistair Middlemiss said at 11:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The report actually says they enquired about value from teams, which is very different from shopping. I don’t doubt that Foles has a price – especially in this draft (Mariota), but the question is did any team rate him enough and is there anyway to get to no2 in the draft? (Mariota does not slide this draft)

  403. 403 iceberg584 said at 11:11 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Maclin situation reminded me of something I saw on Inside the NFL at the end of last season. There was a segment on the crazy number of breakout rookie wide receivers, and how that might become closer to the norm each year going forward. Afterwards, Phil Simms (whom I typically loathe) said to Brandon Marshall, “You’re not going to like hearing this at all Brandon, but with so much consistent young talent coming out year-after-year, able to perform right away, why are teams going to keep handing huge contracts to older receivers?”

    I think mega-contracts are still necessary for the mega-star receivers (Dez, Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, ODB eventually), but for the next tier of guys, it’s hard to justify bank-breaking re-signing efforts. Spend the money on the defense, or other positions that have a multi-year learning curve.

  404. 404 Bert's Bells said at 11:20 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good thought.

    Matthews came on strong last year. Most of us were hoping he’d push Cooper down the depth chart, who’s to say that he can’t take Maclin’s touches?

  405. 405 Jernst said at 12:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’d much rather have a guy on a rookie contract with speed to spare along with an extra $5mil to throw at a Safety or OLB that’s harder to find production than Maclin and a rookie at either of those spots.

  406. 406 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jerry Hughes- 5 years, $44.5M; $22M guaranteed
    Pernell McPhee -5 years, $40M; $16M guaranteed

  407. 407 Alistair Middlemiss said at 11:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Market coming in softer than expected. People had both contracts being 1-2 million per year more. May help the Eagles.

  408. 408 Patrick said at 11:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Gives us a good chance of signing af guy like Jabaal Sheard or O’brien Schofield to a reasonable deal. Give us some pass rush opposite Barwin and outside Cox and not having to pressure Marcus Smith into starting.

  409. 409 anon said at 11:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    patrick willis and justin smith retiring wowser

  410. 410 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow. Remember when they were in the Super Bowl 3 years ago and with that young roster and young HC, everyone thought they would perennial contenders?

  411. 411 A_T_G said at 11:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe they are not willing to play with Foles. Or, maybe they are not willing to play any more with Kaep. Or, maybe this has nothing to do with the QB situation and I am just projecting my own anxiety onto every situation.

  412. 412 Jernst said at 12:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Justin Smith makes sense at 35 years old. But, I’m shocked by Willis. He just turned 30 and has only played for 8 seasons at a position where players seem to last well past 30. I know he has chronic big toe problems but I think this has a lot more to do with not wanting to go down with the sinking ship that is San Fran than truly being ready to retire.

  413. 413 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Foles’ value is at least a 1st round pick.

  414. 414 Bert's Bells said at 11:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Get your number to Chip -he’ll make that deal with you yesterday.

  415. 415 Bert's Bells said at 11:22 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I can call him “Chip” because I eat a shit ton of Tostitos.

  416. 416 CrackSammich said at 11:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe the first time I’ve ever seen “shit ton” used accurately.

  417. 417 Jernst said at 12:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I completely agree. Look at recent QB trades. Even career back-ups get a decent return if the team sees them as potential starter. Foles has proven that his floor is at the very least a mid level starter. That’s worth at least a 1st round pick.

  418. 418 ACViking said at 12:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    QUESTION: Is Matt Cassel a fair comparator to Foles — not contact wise, but performance-wise?

    If not, then how much more valuable in a fluid trading market is Foles than Cassel (for whom Buffalo paid very little, I think).

  419. 419 Jarock said at 2:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Age, recent performance, and current contract also come into play. I think Foles is worth more than Cassel but expecting a 1st rounder seems silly.

  420. 420 Donald Kalinowski said at 11:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t mind giving Bruce Carter a 1 year deal worth around $3-4 million.

  421. 421 eagleyankfan said at 11:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    So – right now(I know, more to come in the next couple of days) — but right now — at pick 20 — who do you think the Eagles pick? Before all the mock drafts didn’t include losing Shady and Mac. Do RB and WR come into play? Eagles happy with Grumpy Old Men in Sproles and Gore?
    ….
    One thing is for sure — us fans are not bored with this off season…lol

  422. 422 Avery Greene said at 11:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    We trade back!

  423. 423 b3nz0z said at 11:37 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    god i hope so!

  424. 424 Jernst said at 11:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If we don’t make a huge deal to move up for Mariota, which I think it’s already a foregone conclusion at this point that we will at least try, WR becomes an immediate need in round 1, along with ROLB, Safety, CB and possibly guard depending on what we bring in in FA. I think RB would be in rounds 2-4.

  425. 425 BreakinAnklez said at 11:38 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    JAELEN STRONG

  426. 426 Jernst said at 11:31 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sounds like Mac, despite all his talk of really wanting to be here, was all about the money. Eagles wanted to pay him $9mil per year. Reportedly they upped their offer to just short of $10mil per year and he jetted to the only team willing to pay him an extra mil and signed for $11mil with KC. That is a lot for a WR of Maclin’s abilty. Deal makes him the 8th highest paid WR in the league. Only people infront of him are: Megatron ($16.2mil per year), Percy Harvin ($12.8), Dez ($12.8), Demaryius Thomas ($12.8), Mike Wallace ($12), Dwayne Bowe ($11.2), Vincent Jackson (11.1). Larry Fitzgerald makes an average of $11mil per season. Of the 7 players that make more than him on a yearly basis 4 almost assuredly won’t see that money going forward as they are grossly overpaid. Essentially, you have to ask, is it worth it to pay Mac as the 4th best WR in the NFL in the same vacinity of guys like Dez and Damaryius Thomas?

  427. 427 Avery Greene said at 11:32 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    I agree with this. Spend the money elsewhere and make the team stronger.

  428. 428 Jernst said at 11:58 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    By comparison, you can get some good production with a whole lot less of a commitment financially to the position: Jordy Nelson ($9.7), Andre Johnson ($9.6), Victor Cruz ($8.6), Pierre Garcon ($8.5), Antonio Brown ($8.5), DeSean ($8.0), Colston ($7.26), Golden Tate ($6.2), Wes Welker ($6.0), Roddy White ($6.0), Boldin ($6.0), Crabtree ($5.3), Emmanuel Sanders ($5.0), AJ Green ($4.9), Nate Washington ($4.5), Edelman ($4.25), Julio Jones ($4.0), Hakeem Nicks ($4.0), Malcolm Floyd ($3.85), Steve Smith ($3.5), Michael Floyd ($2.5). Granted I know a lot of those guys are on rookie deals or are a bit older than Mac, but it’s certainly possible to field a decent set of WRs without over paying a guy like Mac to that extent.

  429. 429 ACViking said at 11:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Jordy Nelson were a FA this year, he’d be heading off to KC.

    And Maclin would be staying here.

    These numbers highlight Joe Banner’s tweet about so much cash chasing too few players — that is, old contracts won’t reflect new market.

  430. 430 ICDogg said at 12:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The problem is you have to go back in time to get old contract prices, and not even Chip can do that.

  431. 431 anon said at 12:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    lots of these deals are just last year. should maclin be your break the bank guy?

  432. 432 ICDogg said at 12:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The cap has gone up per team about 20M in 2 years.

    But no, I’ve never been Maclin’s hugest fan.

  433. 433 RobNE said at 11:44 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Percy Harvin is expected to be cut.

  434. 434 Jernst said at 12:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Like I said, 4 of the 7 won’t even see that money

  435. 435 A_T_G said at 11:45 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good perspective.

  436. 436 ACViking said at 11:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Eagles low-balled Maclin last year and forced him into a prove-it 1-year deal.

    If the Birds can be all about the money, why is Maclin the bad guy in this picture?

  437. 437 Michael Winter Cho said at 11:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s not. And the real question is whether it was worth it to _the Eagles_ to pay that much money for that kind of production, not whether he makes as much money as players who are better than him. We don’t have access to those players, so what they make is irrelevant. Apparently, the FO thinks they can replace his production more cheaply.

  438. 438 ACViking said at 11:50 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Absolutely agree.

    Two parties couldn’t come to a common understanding as to value.

    Happens every day in every business.

    How many big corporations are loyal to their 50+ year-old employees? Other than the executive management team with written contracts, I mean?

  439. 439 Jernst said at 12:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    All true. And, a lot of those guys would make a lot more if they were FA this year, just like Mac did. But, I think the point that you can get good production without paying that kind of money, whether it’s with rookies, reclamation projects, players not coming from a good situation or a career year, ect, still holds true.

  440. 440 xeynon said at 12:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m fine with that. But this is a high leverage decision, and they’d better not be wrong about it.

    To paraphrase the great Omar Little from “The Wire”, you let your #1 receiver walk over a few million dollars thinking you can easily replace his production, you’d best not miss.

  441. 441 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yep. They’d better not be wrong. I’m still on the fence about whether they were wrong about DeSean. Conventional stats aside, the O sucked last year.

  442. 442 RobNE said at 12:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    you have no source for your “low-balled” comment do you? we have no idea. They just didn’t reach an agreement.

  443. 443 ACViking said at 1:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    My source?

    I’m relying on:

    1. The fact that Maclin signed a 1-year contract for $6 million (about 60% or so of the tag figure last year, at least); and

    2. The inference — reasonable, I think — that any multi-year offer was, based on the 1-year price, below $8 million; and

    3. Maclin and Eagles couldn’t reach a multi-year deal; and

    4. The cap was abt $120 million last year.

    Never claimed to have a “source.” Or to have “heard” anything.

    Just connecting dots.

    If you think I’m wrong, I won’t take it personally.

  444. 444 P_P_K said at 1:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “If you think I’m wrong, I won’t take it personally.”

    An all-too rare statement of integrity. Tip ‘o the hat to you, sir.

  445. 445 Mac said at 11:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Disagree… Reunited with old HC + Going back to hometown + mo money = a decision that is obvious. At even money… he still goes to KC.

  446. 446 EagleNebula said at 11:54 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Also, cost of living/income tax/property tax etc…

  447. 447 Mac said at 11:56 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    True, philly is expensive (NJ is not cheap either). Have to get outside philly for better tax areas and then you end up with a nasty commute.

  448. 448 ACViking said at 11:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    By the way, I’m not arguing Maclin’s worth relative to what other WRs are paid.

    His contract is strictly the product of the 2014 FA market.

    Just like Maxwell’s deal.

  449. 449 Jernst said at 11:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Very true…a lot of guys are going to get deals this year and the next 2 that are gonna make a lot of fans go cross eyed. There’s just so much cap space these days.

  450. 450 ACViking said at 12:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agree for sure.

  451. 451 ICDogg said at 12:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And there’s no end in sight to it. Will be even crazier in future years, most likely.

  452. 452 Greg Richards said at 12:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maclin is from Missouri and played with Reid. I might fault him if he took the money and ran to Oakland. He’s playing in his home state, with the coach who drafted him, and that was offering the most financially. Eagles were smart to not pay him that amount but I don’t hold him going to KC against him at all.

  453. 453 GangGreenEagle21 said at 11:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    What about Nolan Caroll moving to safety like McCourty did?

  454. 454 b3nz0z said at 11:47 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    i hate mocks because they assume every team will pick based on need. but uh, i found an updated mock:
    1. jaelen collins
    2. Ajayi
    3. devin funchess
    4a. eskridge (S)
    4b. Bryce Petty
    5. clayton geathers (S)

    see what i mean? “oh the eagles need these positions so that’s their draft.” that said, i’d be pretty ok if this is how it went down

  455. 455 Mitchell said at 1:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yah this is a pretty decent draft.

  456. 456 new coach said at 11:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    key thing for everyone to remember- this is year one Chip has the keys. I think this is more than a 1 year plan. Don’t have to fill every hole right now

    Re: QB- going with Foles isn’t horrible. They could franchise him, worst case scenario and have 2 year period to see if he is the man to lead the team

  457. 457 Mr. Magee said at 12:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow, Chip would LOVE to have the public buy into that logic at this point… Don’t think it’s likely though

  458. 458 new coach said at 12:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    this isn’t the most patient of fan bases. (though ironically the Sixers fans are quite the opposite, though the same city)

  459. 459 tomw said at 12:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow. Chip does not care what the public thinks at this point.

  460. 460 Mr. Magee said at 2:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow… would you believe he’d like to have the media believe that, at this point? I would

  461. 461 Jernst said at 12:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Going with Foles makes little sense at this point. If the plan is to with Foles, why not keep Shady and Mac and make a run for it. Franchising Foles would cost us almost $20mil next year. No way they pay that even if he lights it up. These moves only make sense if the offense is entering a 2 off season blow-up and rebuild. Foles is not going to be better than last year with no Shady, no Maclin and no Jackson with a hole at RG.

  462. 462 SteveH said at 11:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Goddddddddddd I hate the Sanchez signing, especially for that money. Sanchez, just like any other QB, benefited statistically by playing in our system. I bet we could have pulled someone off the scrap heap and gotten similar results. Maybe you can count on him to string together a .500 stretch in the middle of your season if your starter goes down but shit he is going to weigh you down drastically against good teams or in the postseason.

    He’s so mistake prone too, why not get someone with a better track record there?

    God I hate that.

    I bet you anything that we could get similar production out of someone else.

  463. 463 anon said at 11:49 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    who?

  464. 464 SteveH said at 11:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kyle Orton, Josh Mccown, I don’t know what trash tier QB’s are out there right now? Sanchez was brutal for a lot of last year in a QB friendly system. I want no part of giving him 4.5 mil.

    Edit: Find me a fast QB who can actually run the option properly, I’d take that. As long as he doesn’t have a noodle arm and turn the ball over all the time and his brain wasn’t made of cranberry jello I think he could do just as good for us as Sanchez.

  465. 465 new coach said at 11:55 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    he knows the system- as someone to plug in for a few weeks, he can play .500 ball which isnt horrible

  466. 466 SteveH said at 11:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hate it. Can get someone else to do the same for cheaper. His decision making sucks, which is what chip wants the most for this system. He doesn’t have the wheels or the decision making to run the option properly. Why not roll the dice on someone else maybe turning up roses for you? This feels like such a “safe” move for all the other ballsy shit Chip is doing.

  467. 467 BreakinAnklez said at 12:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Seriously who? McCown is with the Browns. Orton isn’t a FA.

    Hoyer? Matt Moore? Colt McCoy? Christian Ponder? Sanchez is better than all of them and we don’t have to waste time with them coming up to speed on the playbook.

  468. 468 Jernst said at 12:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s the truth. Sanchez sucks for sure. But, the other options were far worse. At least Sanchez will have no learning curve and can win a game or two if need be.

  469. 469 SteveH said at 6:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Without researching the issue, just going off your list I would take both Hoyer and Matt Moore, and possibly McCoy.

    I think you forget how awful Sanchez was before he came to us, remember he only got 2 million to be our backup – that should tell you what the market thought of him before he got in our system.

  470. 470 anon said at 6:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hower would be more expensive, if you’re considering either of those other 2 it’s purely b/c you don’t like sancehz not b/c they are better than he is.

  471. 471 new coach said at 12:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Chip knows what he needs (vs what is available) better than anyone on this board.

  472. 472 EagleNebula said at 11:51 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    But who else would give us food critiques in game?

  473. 473 Patrick said at 11:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:

    Tommy, why do you like Marcus Gilchrist? The Chargersfans doesn’t seem very upset about losing him. The limited viewing i did of him showed me a safety who didn’t impress me in coverage and a guy who isn’t a reliable tackler. I think i’d prefer Searcy who the Buffalo fans doesn’t really want to lose, but damn the drop off from McCourty is huge.

  474. 474 Greg Richards said at 12:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t say I’ve watched tons of film on him, but I wouldn’t necessarily take what a team’s fans say about a player as an accurate reflection of their abilities. In the FA preview series at PE.com, Greg Cosell thought he was the #2 FA safety after McCourty.

  475. 475 mksp said at 12:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Saints fans didn’t exactly think they would miss Malcolm Jenkins either.

  476. 476 CrackSammich said at 1:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He had a great start, but leveled off down the stretch. Sounds like exactly the mid tier guy we signed up for. I can imagine them being happy to upgrade to guy like Byrd (at that time).

  477. 477 SteveH said at 12:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Losing out on Mccourtey and Maclin both… going to be interesting to see where we spend this truckload of FA money we’ve got. Lots of mid-tier FA’s incoming!

  478. 478 Jernst said at 12:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    At this point, with McCourty and Mac off the table, I’d be much happier with a bunch of mid level talent on reasonable contracts. Sign a bunch of Barwin, Mathis players and hope you hit on some due to volue rather than overpaying for the few remaining name players available.
    I’d sign two safeties, two CBs a OLB and a guard.

  479. 479 SteveH said at 12:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    kaepernick has the wheels to make our option plays dangerous, but I wonder about his long release. A lot of our plays rely on the QB getting the ball out real fast after the snap, and Kaep has always had a long windup on his throws.

  480. 480 Mr. Magee said at 12:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Please not Kaep… Anything other than MM makes no sense at this point.

    And it would take Eagle fans quite a while to warm up to Kaep, Gore, etc, in lieu of Jackson, McCoy, Maclin. Very surprised if Lurie has given Chip THIS much leeway….

  481. 481 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If we are NOT planning to trade the house for a QB, i think we keep to our guns this FA trying to build secondary and defense and leave offensive holes to the draft.

    It is hard to play any of the simulator games and not come out with RB’s and WR’s being BPA at some point in the draft.

    Round 1 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 2 Pick 20: Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: T.J. Yeldon, RB, Alabama (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Phillip Dorsett, WR, Miami (Fla.) (A)

    Is totally possible (DGB excluded i doubt he falls that far)

  482. 482 Mr. Magee said at 12:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Chip’s not all in on MM at this point, then I think this offseason could be a washout

  483. 483 Jernst said at 12:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea…Foles (and Sanchez as well for that matter) strikes me as the type of player that needs some real talent around them to be succesful. I just don’t see the reason in blowing up all this offensive talent to go all in on Foles’ last year of his contract and hope that he’s the answer.

    Seems obvious that the defense is in plug and play mode with a solid foundation in the front 7 and a free agency rebuild going on in the secondary.

    The offense on the other hand seems like it’s in full blow-up and rebuild mode. Obviously, status quo was not good enough for Chip after last years offense sputtered down the stretch and he feels drastic changes need to be made. I’m not sure taking away Shady and Mac and seeing if we improve with Foles, Gore and Huff makes sense.

    If Foles continues to be mediocre at best and the offense sputters we’re at the end of the road with him and either need to pay him top dollar, limiting our ability to sign other needed talent on offense or were in year 4 of Chip’s 5 year contract with no answer at QB and his ideal QB sitting on Tennessee’s roster. Either paying Foles a big contract to be surrounded by inferior talent or starting off with a rookie question mark at QB in year 4 makes no sense.

    Giving Mariota this year to get his feet wet, the rest of this offseason and next to surround him with more young talent and having a young up and coming defense set and locked up for his prime 2-5 years seems like the play here.

  484. 484 tomw said at 12:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have a lot of faith in a guy who has never thrown a pass in the NFL. Are we on a 6 year plan with Chip?

  485. 485 Jernst said at 1:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I have no faith whatsoever. I know next to nothing about Mariota so he could be the next Tom Brady or the next Jamarcus Russell for all I know. I’m talking about what I think Chip thinks. I have a feeling Chip Kelly thinks he’s Jesus Christ with better abs mixed with the mind of Peyton Manning.

    Given the recent moves, I think Chip going up and getting the guy he “thinks” is the answer, is a lot more likely than us continuing to wait it out with Foles, minus his two top weapons from last year.

  486. 486 tomw said at 1:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yep.Just been there for a couple of these ,and they didn’t work out very well. Jergenson for Snead, Roman Gabrail for a ton of draft picks ,etc.

  487. 487 ACViking said at 1:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Lest we forget Jack Concannon and Mike Boryla.

    Great stuff.

  488. 488 tomw said at 2:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s been a long list over the years.

  489. 489 ACViking said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    indeed, it has. some great college players who flamed out in the NFL (Mira, Huarte, King Hill, Reaves).

    a long, ugly list.

  490. 490 Jernst said at 1:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The real issue is Foles being on the last year of his deal. If he stays here this year we NEED to make an absolute decision about him after this year. That means he either he leaves next off season as a free agent and we have no one waiting in the wings or we sign him to an extension.

    If Foles completely sucks, we don’t really know if that’s because he in fact sucks or because we took away all his weapons, but most likely that ends his time in Philly and we have a high draft pick to address QB next year. That’s the worst possible outcome and no coach wants to be in full rebuild mod with a rookie QB in year 4 of a 5 year deal.

    If Foles is mediocre and we go say 8-8, we’re out of the running for top QBs, we again have to decide on paying Foles or moving on with whatever crappy rookie or FA options are available. And, if we decide to pay him even mid level QBs like Alex Smith make $17mil per year, so we’d be committing massive cap space to a question at QB. This is another shitty scenario.

    If Foles lights it up next year despite losing Shady and Maclin…Awesome! But, now he’s going to need a $20mil contract at least to lock up long term and we still have a lot of holes to fill. Don’t forget that on top of CB, S, ROLB, WR and Guard, Peters and Mathis are both getting up there in age and need to be replaced. We also have to lock up Cox, Kendricks, Johnson, Ertz long term in the next few years. So his contract will severely limit our ability to do that. That’s all based off only one full year as an awesome starter too. That’s probably the only good outcome since we’d have a starting QB locked up moving forward, but it’s not even what I would call ideal, given the cap ramifications and the commitment to a player that has been seriously up and down throughout his career. It’s also, by far the least likely outcome to occur. Chances are that Foles doesn’t suddenly light up after we take away Shady and Maclin.

    So, why would it make sense to set your team up in such a way that the only good outcome is also the least likely to occur? The answer is that it doesn’t make one lick of sense. If the plan is to figure out whether Foles is worth a huge extension, then it would make sense to give him the best possible chance at success. Keep McCoy and Maclin around and go all in all Foles. Try to win this year with a group who has had success in the past together and see if some tweeks here and there get them over the hump.

    Getting rid of this much offensive talent, however, makes sense if the plan is a complete offensive overall. Shed the extra salary, get the QB that Chip wants in the middle of it. Have him cost controlled for the next 5 years, so we can build around him with young talent that fits what we want to do and build this offense to what Chip envisions.

  491. 491 bsuperfi said at 1:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think is right on. And it’s all because the worst possible thing for strategic team-building happened last season: Foles had a mediocre year and got injured before the jury was truly out. It was our one year to really find out what we had in him before his value as an asset – whether we keep him or not as you say – starts to drop.

  492. 492 Jernst said at 1:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Exactly. Last year was our tread water with the status quo and see if that’s the direction we were heading in long term year.

    By all accounts Chip was seriously miffed at missing the playoffs last year and was not at all happy that his offense (his baby) sputtered going down the stretch.

    There’s a reason he asked for complete control of personell and by all acounts had an extremely detailed plan that convinced Laurie to neuter his golden child and give it to him. And, I’m sure the plan wasn’t let’s get rid of McCoy and Maclin and tread water with Foles for another year, because I really think my offense will take flight with Foles handing off to Frank Gore and throwing jump balls to Riley Cooper like it never could before with Jackson, Maclin and McCoy and silly Howie just won’t let me do it.

    And, while I’m sure that he doesn’t see Sanchez as the savior and long term solution to his QB problem, that signing does not make me think that he’s just a back-up plan for us going all in with Foles. He’s the low risk place holder for something much more important.

    Chip wanted to make some seriously unpopular moves to ultimately improve this team to reach the vision he has in his head. Everything points to him being head over heels in love with Mariota. He has a chance, albeit an expensive costly chance, to land his ideal QB this year. All these cost saving moves point towards him trying to offset the loss of draft picks to make that happen and the recent restructuing of the FO points to him having the next few years to put that plan in to practice.

  493. 493 GermanEagle said at 12:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Brandon Graham choosing between Dolphins, Titans and Giants…

  494. 494 A_T_G said at 12:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am hearing that him signing a contract, somewhere and with someone, is imminent.

  495. 495 eagleyankfan said at 12:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have great inside sources!

  496. 496 ICDogg said at 12:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Inside the rectum in fact!

  497. 497 GermanEagle said at 12:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Your sources are not Mr High Percentage himself by any chance, are they?! πŸ™‚

  498. 498 BlindChow said at 12:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Excuse me, that’s Mr High Perscebtage.

  499. 499 GermanEagle said at 12:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    lolezzzz

  500. 500 b3nz0z said at 12:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    not the giants!

  501. 501 Bert's Bells said at 12:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who here doesn’t have nightmares of him putting up 15 sacks a year in New York?

  502. 502 b3nz0z said at 12:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i was thinking specifically of 6 in a game against us.

  503. 503 xeynon said at 12:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nightmare scenario: Giants at Eagles, week 15. Brandon Graham beats the Eagles new starting RG on an inside stunt and strip sacks Marcus Mariota, who has looked completely lost all afternoon in going 13-29 for 112 yards and two picks. Frank Gore, kept in to block, fails to fall on the ball and the Giants scoop it up and return it for a TD to run the score to 38-10. As the Eagles fall to 3-11, Kelly gets testy in the post game press conference when asked about rumors linking him to the job at Texas, while Buccaneers fans, already enjoying a Nick Foles-led playoff run in a weak NFC South, gleefully discuss how their team can bolster itself to take the next step and become a perennial NFC power with the two top 5 picks they have coming in the next two years and the six top 90 picks they have this year. Meanwhile, Jeremy Maclin goes for 142 receiving yards and his 11th TD of the season in a 31-17 Chiefs victory over Denver that puts KC in the driver’s seat for the AFC West crown.

    Not as far-fetched as I would like it to be.

  504. 504 Mr. Magee said at 1:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow, that is a nightmare…

    Wouldn’t be quite so bad if it were year 1 of Chip’s tenure, but taking apart an org after back-to-back 10 win seasons is a tougher sell…

  505. 505 A_T_G said at 1:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What, does McCoy have a bye week?

  506. 506 ACViking said at 1:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ZING

  507. 507 xeynon said at 2:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hah. Wanted to keep it to “nightmare” and short of “mass suicide”.

  508. 508 botto said at 1:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    but before its over mariota leads the eagles to miracle in the meadowlands 3 capped off by maxwell picking off eli intended for OBJ and going the other way for the go ahead TD.

  509. 509 ACViking said at 1:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    GE:

    Where the heck are the Dolphins getting all this cap space?

    Even the the players they’ve cut in the past week, Miami was at about $15.5M on Friday.

  510. 510 GermanEagle said at 5:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I happen to believe more and more that a salary cap doesn’t exist. Same with global warming.

  511. 511 oreofestar said at 12:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Reports are we offered Mac just under 10M which I’d fair but he bloated for 11 that’s not Chips fault for not overpaying

  512. 512 Nailed it! said at 12:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jimmy Kempski ‏@JimmyKempski 15m15 minutes ago
    I’ve heard that the Eagles think Josh Huff has more upside than Jordan Matthews.

    Interesting.

  513. 513 eagleyankfan said at 12:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    More upside to do what? Be the best wr3? The comment gets a big… Whoopidy do…

  514. 514 GermanEagle said at 12:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the indication was rather having Huff playing outside than Matthews.

  515. 515 eagleyankfan said at 12:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And keep Mathews in slot?

  516. 516 anon said at 12:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah he’s a mismatch for the brandon boykins of the world

  517. 517 the DONALD said at 12:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    and Huff is a mismatch outside with speed…i hope

  518. 518 eagleyankfan said at 1:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not buying Huff is a mis-match against anybody. I’m not buying what Kemp is shoveling…

  519. 519 GermanEagle said at 12:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yep. That’s how I was reading that.

  520. 520 Mac said at 12:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chemistry with Mariota.

  521. 521 HawaiianEagle said at 12:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This 72 hour official tampering period is reminds me of my wife’s 72 hour labor. Knew what was coming – all the build up was crap – just gimme the payload already. MM new baby QB.

  522. 522 b3nz0z said at 12:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    did you tell her to move it along?

  523. 523 HawaiianEagle said at 12:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No, that would have gotten me moved to “Director of player Personnel” or something demoted’ish like that…

  524. 524 A_T_G said at 12:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You forgot about listening to the blowhards every couple minutes, people telling you with absolute certainty what you were getting, and the gaping holes uncovered in the process.

  525. 525 Michael Winter Cho said at 1:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Did you follow MM when he was at St. Louis, HE?

  526. 526 Greg Richards said at 12:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Have to think if the Dolphins signed Graham that Jordan is on his way out. I don’t think he fits as a 4-3 LB. He’d be 4th in the rotation after Wake, Vernon, and Graham.

  527. 527 GermanEagle said at 12:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    talked to my friend who’s a diehard Dolphins fan. He said he would take our 3rd rounder for Dion in a heartbeat.

  528. 528 Insomniac said at 12:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Does Dion still stink as a passrusher? If so why do we need him.

  529. 529 Alistair Middlemiss said at 12:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who knows, was doing crystal meth last year and stuck behind Wake and Vernon.

  530. 530 holeplug said at 1:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he sucks at everything

  531. 531 RobNE said at 12:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    how would the Dolphins signing BG change their interest to trade Dion for Curry?

  532. 532 GermanEagle said at 12:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    By a lot I would assume. Unless they’d like to have a DL with Suh, BG and Curry.

  533. 533 FairOaks said at 12:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Unless they view Curry as a DT in a 4-3, they wouldn’t need Curry after signing Graham. And they just signed Suh to be DT. They would want some other type of compensation.

  534. 534 RobNE said at 12:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I thought Curry was in fact best rushing from the DT position, but what do I know.

  535. 535 Mac said at 12:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    His first step at DT is elite.

  536. 536 ICDogg said at 1:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Probably what it would take. We’d be paying for the Dolphins taking a cap hit as much as for the player.

  537. 537 Jernst said at 12:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the discussion with Mac has a little bit to do with something Chip talked about when asked about his desired measurables and his famous quote of, “big people beat up little people.”
    When asked how strict his rules were, Chip said something to the effect of, of course we can and will make expetions on a player by player basis. I’m not gonna get rid of a top player or not draft a really talented player because he doesn’t fit all my size criteria. But, I also don’t want to make expections a routine thing. Then you end up with an undersized NT with undersized ILBs behind him and a set of small tweener safeties behind them. That’s a problem for us and what we want to do.
    While you can make a case for going above our set contract value on Mac due to the lack of set starters at the position and the loss of McCoy, ect, Chip might be looking at this from the perspective of big picture and whether Maclin was worth making the exception for. Because, while an extra $2mil per year for Maclin alone wouldn’t make a huge difference, if any team were to start giving an extra $2mil to every player on it’s team that’s of Maclin’s skill level they’d very quickly find themselves with a depleted roster.
    Maclin’s great, but he was not a difference maker in any way. There is nothing in his game that was elite or irreplacable. Hard to justify that kind of money for a player like that at one of footballs most easily replacable positions.

  538. 538 daveH said at 1:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we basically gave sanches an extra 2 mil .. 9 gt’d and up to 16 with incentives ?? disgusting ..and if they don’t believe he can reach those incentives then whats the point!
    ..
    cut shady saving 10 mil and sign a much older RB for 5 ..net savings like 4 mil (including the bills guys’ moola included) .. that’s not a huge win for us .. its deck chairs in the atlantic
    ..
    is jeff maehl really going to be part of solution ..yikes his biceps are smaller than mine almost. hey I wish I was living his life, but I don’t see him as a difference maker. and I am game to see how and what young josh huff does ..but he is still just a project player

  539. 539 ICDogg said at 1:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The QB market (even on the margins) is ridiculous now. There was an ESPN piece about that this morning.

  540. 540 A_T_G said at 1:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I like the incentives for a backup QB. Paying him more if he actually gets significant playing time seems fair to both sides.

  541. 541 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It is how you get him to sign a 2 year deal, if you don’t put those incentives then no way you get him to sign for 2 years. And obviously they like him as a backup/locker room guy.

  542. 542 daveH said at 1:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i agree with the structure ok .but not the amount .. id rather have any aging QB with experience

  543. 543 ACViking said at 1:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Interestingly . . . Kelly’s given us the H/W/S for 21 positions.

  544. 544 Jernst said at 1:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    sorry, ACV, I’m not sure what you’re saying…what are you getting at?

  545. 545 ACViking said at 2:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Oh . . . didn’t mean to be so cryptic.

    Kelly’s kept his formula for what ingredients make the optimal QB in his system more secret than Coca Cola’s century-plus formula (minus the cocaine).

  546. 546 BreakinAnklez said at 2:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Has he? I bet Sproles and Huff don’t fit

  547. 547 ACViking said at 2:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ok . . . 20.

  548. 548 BreakinAnklez said at 2:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    My point was Chip isn’t going to pass on talented players because they don’t meet these predetermined set of measurables. He would be foolish too.

  549. 549 D3FB said at 3:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The HWS requirements forcing a player out this offseason are about the only reason I put any stock into Kendricks being possibly traded.

  550. 550 Avery Greene said at 1:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Note: This is just me complaining.

    Steven A Smith is a waste of space and an idiot. He’s saying today that CK got rid of Maclin and Shady because he wants a white team. I guess signing Gore, Maxwell, and going after McCourty doesn’t count.

    SAS is a big a tool as the guy he sits across from. It’s like it’s a requirement for him and Skip Bayless to say a bunch of stupid stuff per day.

  551. 551 P_P_K said at 1:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I thought you must have misunderstood something because I figured no one, not even Smith, would be stupid enough to say something like this. I looked it up and, yea, Smith is that stupid.

  552. 552 Avery Greene said at 1:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I had to look it up too. Still SMH.

  553. 553 eagleyankfan said at 1:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    shocked you guys had to look that up…I might be more shocked that people actually listen to that idiot.

  554. 554 botto said at 1:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wow what a kook.

  555. 555 ICDogg said at 1:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    heh

  556. 556 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But what about cutting Herremans??? Pretty sure he is white or because he has been known to partake in the MJ smokey smoke he is an outlier…….too damn funny…..

  557. 557 b3nz0z said at 1:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    herremans didn’t go to Oregon so obviously that’s all there was to that decision

  558. 558 ICDogg said at 1:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slSOTCqzChI&t=30

  559. 559 P_P_K said at 1:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This is one of the most ignorant things I’ve ever heard from a journalist in any field. Actually, from any human being. It’s insulting and inflammatory. I hope there’s blowback on this. Smith should apologize. Trying to establish his street creed by referring to “brothers walking around saying…” is bs.

  560. 560 Avery Greene said at 1:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I was done with him a long time ago, but I was really upset with the DJax stuff. It’s okay to flash gang signs because that’s where he’s from. But Riley Cooper using the n-word isn’t okay even though that’s where he came from.

    I really can’t stand SAS, and I hate this race-baiting that he does. Plenty of real issues of racism, and football isn’t it.

  561. 561 anon said at 1:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wow, that’s some backward logic.

  562. 562 Avery Greene said at 1:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I know. He’s not necessarily the brightest bulb on the christmas tree.

  563. 563 Ark87 said at 2:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    To be honest, if I were black (and had experienced a lot of racism first hand) I might have an eye brow raised at #culture (watching the Eagles turn Patriot levels of white) on a hot take until I talked myself out of it, definitely wouldn’t imply Chip is a racist on national television no matter how hot the take, though.

  564. 564 Bert's Bells said at 1:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I dunno makes a lot of sense. That’s why Kelly is NOT going to draft Mariota -forget draft position, MM ain’t white enough.

  565. 565 Avery Greene said at 1:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    LOL – and so we get to keep Foles!

  566. 566 Bert's Bells said at 1:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sanchez is kind of like a white guy but add him up with Barkley and you’ve got at least enough cracker for two white dudes.

  567. 567 Anders said at 1:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    GEAGLE is gonna be sad when Foles is traded….

  568. 568 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    nahh….so long as there are “idiots/morons” working in the media……GEagle will have something to rail on……

  569. 569 GermanEagle said at 1:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yous a fool!

    Not looking good for his percentages…

  570. 570 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am going to be sad when Foles is traded. Especially if we have to give up a lot of picks.

  571. 571 ICDogg said at 1:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mike Iupati to Jets, Michael Crabtree to Bills

  572. 572 oreofestar said at 1:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s fake

  573. 573 ICDogg said at 2:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You’re right. It came from the Sacramento Bee newspaper but the reporter got punked

  574. 574 ICDogg said at 2:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    (as did I, by extension)

  575. 575 peteike said at 1:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ugh

  576. 576 peteike said at 1:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    rather have crabtree than Andre Johnson but Im probably in the minority on that one

  577. 577 teltschikfakeout88 said at 1:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Patrick Willis planning to retire…..wonder if that bad knee injury to his boy Bowman caused him to rethink life…..

  578. 578 mksp said at 1:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    WTF Gil:

    Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 55s55 seconds ago
    I know #Eagles 1st pick in draft. Sealed name in envelope, mailed to colleague @Andy_Fenelon. To be opened 4/30.

    Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 10s10 seconds ago
    Two things about #Eagles pick:

    1) It’s not Mariota
    2) It’s contingent on player still being there (he should be)

    Gil Brandt ‏@Gil_Brandt 1m1 minute ago
    I could be wrong on #Eagles pick, but I like my odds.

    10-1 I’m right.

    Who do you think it will be?

  579. 579 Avery Greene said at 1:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Interesting.

  580. 580 Mitchell said at 1:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jaelon Strong.

  581. 581 Insomniac said at 2:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe in a few years after we draft him, he’ll stay home instead of chasing $1m more like some other ungrateful WR.

  582. 582 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    1 MILLION is a lot of money. Over 4 to 5 years that’s enough to pay for 10 of his children’s and 10 of their children’s college tuition.

    I’ll never fault a player for taking more money.

  583. 583 Insomniac said at 2:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not going to rant about Maclin yet since he hasn’t inked the deal with the Chiefs yet. But when you say you want to be here and won’t meet the middle ground with the team then screw you.

  584. 584 Bert's Bells said at 1:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Contingent on the player still being there? Really going out on a limb there.

  585. 585 Avery Greene said at 1:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Two things about #Eagles pick: 1) It's not Mariota 2) It's contingent on player still being there (he should be)— Gil Brandt (@Gil_Brandt) March 9, 2015

  586. 586 botto said at 1:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    hundley obviously

  587. 587 bill said at 1:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That would make sense.

  588. 588 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am a hell of a lot more comfortable with Hundley at 20 than with Mariota at 2 or 1 and all that entails. Think they have very comparible upside (Mariota is just coming form a better situation).

  589. 589 botto said at 1:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah hundley looks tough with a good arm, similar type of offense.
    Marcus would be better for us though.

  590. 590 Mr. Magee said at 2:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If you say so, but Hundley will be there at 20? If not, I’m not willing to trade up for him

  591. 591 Javi Echie said at 1:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jake Fisher , Jaelen Strong, or Jalen Collins please

  592. 592 oreofestar said at 1:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Just speculation from him probably he’s thing Brett

  593. 593 Insomniac said at 1:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Trae Wayneeessssss

    it has to be Jake Fisher though. Oregon bias duhh

  594. 594 Mr. Magee said at 1:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is he in a position to know anything?

  595. 595 botto said at 1:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we can all guess…

  596. 596 Mr. Magee said at 1:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Only way this offseason (so far) makes any sense is if they grab Mariotta…

  597. 597 mksp said at 1:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    My guess is Brett Hundley (since it assumes we don’t trade up to draft Mariota).

  598. 598 A_T_G said at 2:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You guys realize this is exactly what he wants you to do, right? Play his little game?

    Fine. Does this still involve trading up, just not for the player we thought? If so, Vic Beasley. If not, Trae Waynes.

  599. 599 Dominik said at 3:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Troll level: Gil Brandt.

  600. 600 BlindChow said at 2:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s easy. It’ll be whichever Oregon player is projected to go in round 2.

  601. 601 ACViking said at 2:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    BC delivers!

  602. 602 Michael Winter Cho said at 2:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Geez, all this shakeup and he doesn’t go for Mariota, but takes a flyer on a decent prospect in Hundley? I hope that’s not how it goes down.

  603. 603 Mr. Magee said at 2:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    word

  604. 604 Insomniac said at 1:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Regarding the Huff has a higher upside than Matthews thing..I don’t really agree. Huff and Matthews aren’t WRs that can go up and get the ball (Matthews irks the living hell out of me because of it how are you 6’3 and don’t know how to use your size?????). Personally, I think at least 10 WRs this year are better than both of them.

  605. 605 Anders said at 1:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Just because there is 10 WRs you like in the draft more than both, does not mean that Huff cant be better than Matthews.

  606. 606 Insomniac said at 1:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anders live in the present not the future. Huff has done nothing as of now but return a extremely well blocked kickoff return to warrant playtime.

  607. 607 Anders said at 1:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Again, why does 1 thing exclude the other? I liked Huff more than Matthews last year, and I can 100% see why Kelly might like Huff more on the outside than Matthews, but I also have a good number of WRs I like above both

  608. 608 Anders said at 1:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Again, why does 1 thing exclude the other? I liked Huff more than Matthews last year, and I can 100% see why Kelly might like Huff more on the outside than Matthews, but I also have a good number of WRs I like above both

  609. 609 Insomniac said at 1:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Matthews while not anything special showed that he can produce without screwing up as often as Huff. It’s not excluding anything. Huff may or may not ever adjust to the NFL level, that is something no one really knows yet.

  610. 610 MattE said at 2:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Matthews > or = Maclin

  611. 611 eagleyankfan said at 3:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Never a Huff fan — never will be. If he hadn’t gone to Oregon, he wouldn’t even be on this team….

  612. 612 ShadyCrockett said at 1:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Two things:

    First. I find it amusing that Kelly likely talked to Tom Gamble about how healthy Gore was before pulling the trigger.

    Second. Any chance we are going to go after Julius Thomas? Just wondering given that it doesn’t look like we will break the bank for a WR.

  613. 613 Insomniac said at 1:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Thomas was offered 9mil a year by the Jaguars.

  614. 614 oreofestar said at 1:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah Cameron is more likely it anyone

  615. 615 BreakinAnklez said at 1:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He needs to call it quits. He’s had like 4-5 concussions…

  616. 616 GermanEagle said at 1:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    With the Rams apparently being the front-runners to land Foles in a trade, what do you think will the compensation look like?!
    Somehow I feel that swapping first round picks may not be enough for Nick from an Eagles point of view???

  617. 617 Avery Greene said at 1:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who will play QB if they trade Foles? MM isn’t falling to 9 or 10 where they pick.

  618. 618 Ark87 said at 1:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mark Sanchez, sure it’s more than we want to pay for a back up, but paying a starter for that money is a steal! #sportsscience

  619. 619 Avery Greene said at 1:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well, if sport science could help him not get rattled, I guess it could work. Maybe a pill that would erase any emotion or feeling.

  620. 620 botto said at 2:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    hundley

  621. 621 Avery Greene said at 2:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Would you take Hundley that early?

  622. 622 botto said at 2:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    doesn’t matter, you wait and he’s gone.
    take who you want and don’t let anyone else get him.

  623. 623 GermanEagle said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am not Hundley’s biggest fan, but I agree with this thinking.

  624. 624 Mr. Magee said at 2:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    how does this make sense? Hundley worth major dealings, but MM to worth even more major dealings? i.e. “Value” (Chip’s favorite word, lol) does not seem to be there for Hundley pick

  625. 625 Insomniac said at 2:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If we get the Rams 2nd round pick for Foles, we’ll have to move up past the Jets to get him if he falls out of the first round.

  626. 626 tomw said at 2:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hundley may be there at 20

  627. 627 Insomniac said at 1:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Any details on what we’ll get for Foles?

  628. 628 GermanEagle said at 2:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nope, only that other teams are also interested.
    That’s why we can only guess what a fair compensation would be.

  629. 629 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If the ultimate plan to get is to get Mariota, then the Eagles would be making a huge mistake in trading him now.

    I wouldn’t trade Foles to move up 10 spots. The most I would do is Foles and our 2nd for pick #10.

  630. 630 GermanEagle said at 2:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agreed. If we can draft Hundley at #10 and still keep pick #20, then we could give our new QB a nice toy at WR.

  631. 631 Nick C said at 2:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Dream scebario: Kevin white at 10. Hundley at 20.

  632. 632 GermanEagle said at 2:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That would be awesome. In this case you would have basically traded Foles + 2nd for Hundley and Kevin White.

  633. 633 Nick C said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Quit getting me excited! Can’t take anymore disappointment lol

  634. 634 Insomniac said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kevin White at 10 and trade down if there’s no CB/OL worth the pick for Hundley. That’s a dream scenario.

  635. 635 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    whoa whoa whoa whoa
    Have we gotten to the point that we would be excited with taking Hundley with a 1st round pick??

  636. 636 ACViking said at 2:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The fickle winds of change

  637. 637 Nick C said at 2:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If foles is gone and Sanchez is our starter, then YES! Things are bleak here these days.

  638. 638 Insomniac said at 2:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That time of the year. Weren’t we talking about trading down for EJ Manuel at this point?

  639. 639 Mr. Magee said at 2:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    thank you Donald!

  640. 640 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hundley at #10? I think I’d rather wait to see what next year’s QB class looks like.

  641. 641 Avery Greene said at 2:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The twitterverse it out of control.

    Several teams in talks with Eagles about Foles, #Rams are considered "leading contender" per source.— Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) March 9, 2015

  642. 642 GermanEagle said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s the tweet I was referring. Thanks for embedding it.

  643. 643 Avery Greene said at 2:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Figured, I need to make a couple twitter accounts to follow stuff.

  644. 644 Insomniac said at 2:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So if we got Tavon Austin and a 2nd round pick for Foles..how happy would you guys be?

  645. 645 MattE said at 2:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    not happy. he should be going to the Jets.

  646. 646 ACViking said at 2:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    An undersized slot receiver who’s done nothing to justify his Top 10 draft status?

    Maybe Sam Bradford instead?

  647. 647 Insomniac said at 2:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Bradford still has that outrageous contract but he’s a FA after this year. I don’t think we should absorb it.

  648. 648 Mr. Magee said at 2:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    what?!

  649. 649 ACViking said at 2:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mr. Magee . . .

    A touch of irony, there.

    Kelly’s the QB whisperer who’s bent on making Mark Sanchez part of his core group.

    So lets see what Kelly can do with Bradford . . . then tag him and flip him for a 1st Rd pick . . . at the same time Kelly’s flipping Sanchez, still under contract, for another 1st Rd pick.

  650. 650 Mr. Magee said at 2:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ok, I got ya πŸ™‚

  651. 651 Anders said at 2:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So many other players I rather want than Austin now that we have Huff and Sproles.

  652. 652 Insomniac said at 2:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    True but I couldn’t think of anyone else the Rams would want to part with besides underachieving Austin.

  653. 653 anon said at 3:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    could kelly get on of those stud DLineman?

  654. 654 Insomniac said at 3:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    For Foles? Sure if we’re talking about a straight up trade but for picks? Probably not.

  655. 655 mksp said at 2:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Benjamin Allbright‏@AllbrightNFL
    Foles to Rams talk is legit.

  656. 656 mksp said at 2:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Rams are so perfect for Nick.

  657. 657 Nick C said at 2:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    They are. But going into the draft with Mark Sanchez as our “starter” is frightening…

  658. 658 ACViking said at 2:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sanchez . . . starter.

    May be enough to take the season off in Portugal.

  659. 659 Insomniac said at 2:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Suck for..(insert QB here if we don’t draft one)

    or I’ll just stick with my original Suck for Ezekiel Elliot.

  660. 660 Nick C said at 2:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This. None of us can get away from the train wreck though.

  661. 661 ACViking said at 2:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t look away, indeed

  662. 662 ACViking said at 2:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Who’s the new OC there?

  663. 663 mksp said at 2:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think you’d like this answer presented in this format:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/st-louis-rams/post/_/id/16043/looking-at-frank-cignettis-oc-history

  664. 664 ACViking said at 2:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Couldn’t have asked for more.

    Interesting choice for OC by Fisher.

  665. 665 Insomniac said at 2:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVEcBMx4i60

    Interesting stuff about our RB of the future.

  666. 666 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the Pats will sign Sheard and the Titans will sign Worilds

  667. 667 BreakinAnklez said at 2:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Take your negativity elsewhere!!!!!

  668. 668 GermanEagle said at 2:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And us?!

  669. 669 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And we trade for DION JORDANZ

  670. 670 RobNE said at 2:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m confused by these posts. First we heard they were talking to teams about Foles. When did we jump to they are trading him to the Rams, and possibly ahead of and not contingent on a trade for MM. Are there sources for any of this, or are you all running amok in here?

  671. 671 mksp said at 2:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Check this guy’s timeline:

    https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL

  672. 672 RobNE said at 2:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ok we might be shopping Foles. Until something happens, could mean anything. I still like to think it means we have a deal in place for MM. Maybe Foles wasn’t part of it, now they have the MM deal finalized and can push to trade Foles? who knows.

    I don’t think Chip is trading Foles with no deal for MM in place. That doesn’t make sense.

  673. 673 Mr. Magee said at 2:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    agree, but who knows at this point!

  674. 674 ACViking said at 2:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Re: The Return of Sanchez

    I wonder, if Foles had been hurt in one of the early games, when the O-line was imitating a sieve, how Sanchez would have looked to Kelly?

    By week 8 against Houston — when Sanchez replaced Foles — the O-line started 4 of the 5 projected Day-1 starters. And Mathis was just 1 more full game away from returning.

    Sanchez v. WASH (I) . . . no O-line starters in the 4th Q

    Sanchez v. SF . . . 2 O-line starters

    Sanchez v. Rams . . . 3 O-line starters, with Molk anchoring

    Sanchez v. ARZ . . . etc
    ______________

    Maybe Kelly wouldn’t cared.

    Maybe Kelly’s banking on the (non-scientific) rule that injuries come in clusters.

    I get that the 2nd-string QB market’s barren.

    Heck, the 1st-string QB market’s pretty barren.

    But Sanchez?

    As my 2nd-grade teacher once said to my best friend (still) about a drawing of his house . . . “PRETTY SICK LOOKING”.

    Strong, true. But visceral.

  675. 675 Barry s goldberg said at 2:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Three team trade with rams and titans. We end up with the titans second pick for MM. Rams end up with Foles and Titans with 10th pick and other picks. Makes no sense to trade up for Hundley who will be there at 20.

  676. 676 Alistair Middlemiss said at 2:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Depends what Foles value is. If it is outright no.10 then it makes a lot of sense, get a pass rusher or stud WR there and pick Hundley at 20.

  677. 677 Avery Greene said at 2:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s if TB doesn’t take him with #1.

  678. 678 Barry s goldberg said at 2:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Eagles and Tampa swap picks for like a 5th or we take Winston.

  679. 679 Dominik said at 3:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    See, the Winston thing is the problem. Winston strenght is his track record in a pro style offense – something that’s not that important for Chip, one has to assume.

    The negative is Winston not being 100 percent football guy and out of all positions, Kelly won’t tolerate this at the QB position. Say what you want about Nick, but he’s really good about that part of being a QB. Even his strongest critics have to admit that.

  680. 680 RobNE said at 2:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I thought it would go Jets – Titans.

  681. 681 A_T_G said at 2:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That would check off all the boxes that common wisdom says is needed to make sense, and so is probably completely wrong.

  682. 682 ChipsamazingFUAH's said at 2:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I guess I have a little more faith in our HC than most.

    We all need to remember 3 years ago, he was coaching College.
    Most coaches make a slow transition from College the pros so he gets the benefit of a two year learning curve at the very least, if you ask me.
    Now that he is in year 3, he sees things through much more experienced eyes and I trust he knows the value of each position at this point.
    He saw Maclin was a very good receiver, but just not a #1 that commands a huge salary. To me, he never lived up to a #1 WR in any, way shape or form.
    He is and always will be a #2 at best.
    I believe Matthews can be a #1 and Cooper can be a #3.
    That means we need to draft or sign a WR #2 or a #1 if we can.
    We also need good depth but thats another story.
    As far as getting Gore? I love the idea of having a RB with his traits.
    No dancing, but he does have some wiggle to his game. He’s a beast of a runner who hits the hole like a freight train and plows ahead falling forward.
    We will love Gore, as he is exactly what we needed at RB. A guy that hits the hole hard, and has the size and strength to break tackles. You never see him dancing while losing yards, not his style.
    I am also a big fan of Gilchrist too, I hope we get him.

  683. 683 RobNE said at 2:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I agree. I like all Chip’s moves so far. He won’t hit 100%, but he is making tough calls on value etc. And in trades like the Shady one, his GM hat was on. The short-term coach play would be to just pay Shady.

  684. 684 botto said at 2:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    gore is like an anvil he will put the hurt on some folks..
    he will be good for the eagles.

  685. 685 ACViking said at 2:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Cleaning out older players on big contracts . . . Ozzie Newsome does that every year.

    But Sanchez as a starter just hurts to think about.

    Please, there must be more.

  686. 686 Donald Kalinowski said at 2:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe Matt Barkley is our future franchise QB!

  687. 687 RobNE said at 2:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I hoped so for a year or two. But I don’t think so anymore.

  688. 688 ACViking said at 2:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Barkley doesn’t have the NFL arm that Sanchez does, apparently.

    Or the keen decision-making abilities of Sanchez.

  689. 689 ICDogg said at 2:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    49ers Losses: Mike Iupati, Patrick Willis, Justin Smith, Frank Gore, Harbaugh, Crabtree

    49ers gains: Torrey Smith, Darnell Dockett

  690. 690 Mr. Magee said at 2:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Let’s hope they don’t lose Kaepernik!

  691. 691 shah8 said at 2:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m fine if we get Kaepernick for Foles.

  692. 692 Mr. Magee said at 2:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not. And that’s not happening anyway

  693. 693 RobNE said at 2:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Chip pulls off a successful ladder trade up and gets good value for Foles, I’m going to be even more impressed.

  694. 694 ACViking said at 2:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    By “ladder trade up,” how far do you mean?

    It’s never been done in NFL history, i.e., a double-move to go from the latter portion of Rd 1 to the very top.

  695. 695 RobNE said at 2:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’s why it’s going to kick ass. I mean to 2 or 1, jumping from 10 or 6 or wherever.

  696. 696 ACViking said at 2:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Again . . . would be a truly historical accomplishment.

  697. 697 RobNE said at 2:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    the first of many.

  698. 698 xeynon said at 2:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You’re going to be extremely impressed when he mortgages the future and puts all the franchise’s eggs in the Marcus Mariota basket?

    I’ll say this – if that happens, I’ll be more impressed by Kelly’s cojones than by his football acumen. I have a strong feeling his reputation for the latter will end up taking a huge hit from such a move.

  699. 699 RobNE said at 2:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Chip’s given this some thought. I love how I am defending and you are attacking (or questioning) a trade that has no parameters yet. I just hope it happens tomorrow and not draft day, so we can have our 3,000 post column and all work through this together. I can’t wait until draft day, my heart can’t take it. Just tell me what we’re giving up already!!

  700. 700 xeynon said at 2:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Mariota falls to the 10-12 range and all they have to give up for him in addition to their own first rounder is a 2nd round pick or the equivalent, I’ll be fine with it. It’s the “trade the next 3 drafts to move up to number one” scenarios people are talking about that upset me.

  701. 701 RobNE said at 3:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    there are outcomes in between those two. My guess is we don’t wait for 10-12 range but we don’t trade the next 3 drafts either. I wish we could know already.

  702. 702 ACViking said at 2:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Re: Foles fans

    Two of the more vocal Foles supporters in the locker room — guys on the record with the media — were Maclin and McCoy.

    Gone.

    Gone.

    Who exactly were the Sanchez locker-room guys?

    Just wondering? Not an ironical question.

  703. 703 botto said at 2:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    chip and shurmer?
    cooper?

  704. 704 Avery Greene said at 2:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    the chicken fingers guy?

  705. 705 ACViking said at 2:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chip and Shurmer . . .

    the only guys who count

  706. 706 xeynon said at 2:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Herremans also made some very strong pro-Foles comments after the season.

    I don’t think Chip is trying to purge Foles supporters, but there is a chance he could lose the locker room if Foles is traded elsewhere and succeeds and Sanchez/rookie QB stink up the joint here.

  707. 707 A_T_G said at 2:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t think there is a more damning statement about a guy who started half the season than:

    “Who exactly were the Sanchez locker-room guys?
    Just wondering? Not an ironical question.”

  708. 708 tomw said at 3:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    They re signed Sanchez and Mac ran to KC. Does that give an idea?

  709. 709 botto said at 2:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    if foles is on the rams, I will root for them this year as my second favorite team to watch, then the bills too.
    and what about Bradford?

  710. 710 BobSmith77 said at 2:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Given some of Kelly’s comments about Sanchez last year, I do wonder just how much of a ‘fan’ of Sanchez he still is at this point.

    Just strikes me as a ‘hedge’ signing even if it was a bit of an overpay. Sanchez was arguably the best backup available in FA & knows Kelly’s system.

  711. 711 anon said at 2:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    exactly, best backup you’ll get honestly, 2 years 4.5m isn’t terrible — damn that’s a lot of money to each chicken fingers on the side line

  712. 712 Nicky Puffy CoatS said at 2:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Price of chicken is going up.

  713. 713 A_T_G said at 3:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I wonder if the chicken fingers were negotiated into the contract? Something like free chicken finger orders (fcf) will be credited using the formula:

    fcf = 4 + (# of completions/pass attempts * 1.25) + ((# of touchdowns – # of intercepts) * .75) + (games started * 2) + (games entered * 1)

    One order for each preseason game, one free order per game, with incentives to earn more based on playing time and performance.

  714. 714 BobSmith77 said at 2:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wonder just how many chicken fingers at the Linc it would buy even at inflated prices?

  715. 715 Ark87 said at 3:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I can’t support it though, I absolutely killed the Cowboys about paying Kyle Orton 10.5 over 3 years. The eagles paying a minimum of 5.5 and up to 16 over 2 years is the Karma I brought down upon us, I’m so sorry everyone.

  716. 716 A_T_G said at 3:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Pssh, you only get chicken thumbs from here on out.

  717. 717 EaglesD3rdandwrong said at 2:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t pay Maclin 11m a yr. Im still a fan of Maclin and I’m glad he had a great year here. Chiefs def over paid , best of luck to them.

  718. 718 BobSmith77 said at 2:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You do have to ‘wait and see’ until the draft but more and more I get the impression that Kelly is flying by the seat of his pants & going to put all of his chips into the center of the table for Mariota.

    My friend says he bets that Kelly does get Mariota but pays the king’s ransom. In doing so, he handicaps the franchise enough so that they aren’t able to substantially improve enough to become anything more than a 9-10 win team over the next 2-3 years.

    Kelly leaves with a year remaining or his deal or after his deal is up because he is frustrated to return to a lucrative job with a premier program in college football.

  719. 719 RobNE said at 2:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    your friend is wrong! he’s not going to give up the king’s ransom. that’s why he’s Chip Kelly.

  720. 720 A_T_G said at 2:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I am glad to see I am not the only one who has not lost the faith.

  721. 721 RobNE said at 3:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I have so much faith if we don’t get MM I will be shattered.

  722. 722 botto said at 2:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    nah 12-4 next year.
    I have a friend that’s says we will be undefeated, now what?

  723. 723 xeynon said at 2:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That scenario is extremely concerning. It’s also increasingly plausible.

  724. 724 BobSmith77 said at 2:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Snider was determined to get Lindros hell or high water too. Really the last time I can think back of an athlete that a Philly FO figure was utterly fascinated with regardless of the price. Maybe Halladay and Amaro because Amaro pursued him for nearly 2 years even if the price wasn’t nearly as high.

    Flyers only really improved after the Feb 1995 trade that sent Recchi to Montreal for LeClair and Desjardins. LeClair became the winger that Lindros desperately needed and Desjardins their staple on defense & the PP.

  725. 725 RobNE said at 2:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    oh my god, Chip >>>>>>>>>> Snider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Amaro

  726. 726 teltschikfakeout88 said at 2:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    9 – 10 wins if we were going to give up the kings ransom…. we would challenged to go 8-8…..as we need to replace OL in both Peters and Mathis very soon…..at best we need to find replacements in the next couple of years…..Lets not get into some other holes that need to filled in FA…..

  727. 727 BobSmith77 said at 2:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That was best-case scenario. He basically was saying a marginal playoff team.

  728. 728 teltschikfakeout88 said at 3:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Bob…I am just messing around….we still got holes to fill and I just don’t think giving up multiple first rounders for anyone at this stage is worth it…..

  729. 729 anon said at 3:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Panthers re-signed QB/WR Joe Webb.

  730. 730 shah8 said at 3:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Thought so.

  731. 731 shah8 said at 3:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    As in that his twitter was pretty indicative to me that would happen.

  732. 732 shah8 said at 3:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think he genuinely does have interest from other teams, but Webb wanted to move back to the South and stay there.

  733. 733 Dominik said at 3:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “I think he genuinely does have interest from other teams”

    I think there could be some CFL teams dying to sign him.

  734. 734 teltschikfakeout88 said at 3:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s just a WR…….LOL

  735. 735 Joe Webb said at 3:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hometown discount.

  736. 736 shah8 said at 3:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Birmingham doesn’t have a team!

  737. 737 GermanEagle said at 3:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Now it’s apparently down to Giants and Eagles for Brandon Graham!

  738. 738 Mr. Magee said at 3:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He gone!

  739. 739 GermanEagle said at 3:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Now these rumors might not be true. I personally don’t think BG will be back. I don’t want to see Mr. High Percentage missing out on another prediction, though.

  740. 740 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 3:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    saw that. but saw another tweet that said eags havent had any contact with BG. hopefully it’s a case he’ll give eags a final call to match an offer

  741. 741 Insomniac said at 3:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Poor BG is going to be so worn out when he plays against us.

  742. 742 shah8 said at 3:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Okay whuh? Gil Brandt is intimating that the Eagles will not get Mariota, but a different QB, assumed on my part to be Hundley, should he still be there when the Eagles pick.

  743. 743 Joe Webb said at 3:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I know a QB who’d kick ass in Philly’s college system but they too racist.

  744. 744 shah8 said at 3:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hey, Philly’s college system still think Barkley’s a QB…

  745. 745 ScamBradford-AllDay said at 3:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If only they played more games on Tuesdays. Joe Webb is the winningest QB in NFL history on Tuesdays

  746. 746 BobSmith77 said at 3:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    To paraphrase a movie line from Ghostbusters:

    ‘There is no plan, There is only Mariota’

  747. 747 teltschikfakeout88 said at 3:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Alright…..thinking we need to look at 1 safety, 1 CB, 1 safety, 1 OLB, 1 WR and 1 OL potentially in FA…..who do you like and for how much?

  748. 748 BobSmith77 said at 3:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s is a long laundry list of needs now.

  749. 749 BreakinAnklez said at 3:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Safety: Searcy. Keep an eye on Tashaun Gipson, Browns RFA. Still not tendered yet.
    CB: Draft
    OLB: Sheard, Ayers, Worilds, Morgan
    WR: Draft
    OL: Boling, Draft

  750. 750 anon said at 3:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Gibson tendered

  751. 751 BreakinAnklez said at 4:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Late breaking news. I’d give up a 2 for him. I assumed he would get a 1st. Risky play. Def worth keeping an eye on still.

  752. 752 anon said at 3:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    CSN Philly’s Geoff Mosher disputes a report that the Eagles are still in the running to sign free agent Brandon Graham. Specifically, Mosher says to “beware” reports the Eagles are still in play.

    Wow — but who is going to chase the passer?

  753. 753 Crus57 said at 3:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Obviously we are just going to blitz a DB or two every time, because they’re faster than OLBs.

  754. 754 b3nz0z said at 3:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    probably a combination of players from free agency and the draft?

  755. 755 eagleyankfan said at 3:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    sheesh — I go away for couple of hours and now everybody has Foles being traded….slow down peeps….unless there’s a nugget from OD – Foles is NOT going anywhere…

  756. 756 OregonDucker said at 3:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Still negotiating. Lots of back channel twitter disinformation. Kinda like a Statue of Liberty play.

  757. 757 eagleyankfan said at 3:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    TY — now get back in there and don’t come out until a deal is done! LMAO.

  758. 758 Dominik said at 3:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You are the user I wanted to see. πŸ™‚

  759. 759 mksp said at 3:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Heh:

    Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL Β· 2h2 hours ago

    Can confirm #Rams have “upped their offer” for Foles from what they floated in January, do not know specifics of that offer or current one.

    Benjamin Allbright @AllbrightNFL Β· 2h2 hours ago

    I don’t have any info on specifics at this time, & hope I’m not being used as a back channel leak to further negotiating leverage w/ Titans.

  760. 760 Donald Kalinowski said at 3:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And if a trade does happen it will occur on draft day. Not 2 months prior when the Eagles have no idea how the draft will play out.

  761. 761 Spaceman Spiff said at 3:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chip be rolling around Novacare like…

  762. 762 the DONALD said at 3:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    like what?

  763. 763 Nailed it! said at 3:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 49s49 seconds ago
    Patriots not picking up $20 million option in Darrelle Revis’ contract; now set to become free agent Tuesday.

    Make an offer chip

  764. 764 RobNE said at 3:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    means nothing. Pats are still leaders to re-sign him.

  765. 765 Patrick said at 3:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would rather fuck with the Chiefs and call Justin Houston to tell him about the joys of Philly Cheesesteaks and playing alongside Fletcher Cox. He is unhappy, Chiefs have no cap room, if we’re going for crazy targets, i’ll take Houston. Maybe we can trade a 3rd rounder and Riley Cooper who had 3 more TDs, than every Chiefs WR.

    Steal our Mac, I’ll steal you fucking pass rusher!

  766. 766 D3FB said at 3:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If by steal you mean give up two first round picks and $15 million a year.

  767. 767 BreakinAnklez said at 3:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t they agree to a trade?

  768. 768 anon said at 3:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s the trade. They could “trade” him but you wouldn’t like what it costs, especially since you’ve got to sign Houston to a monster deal.

  769. 769 GermanEagle said at 3:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes they can agree on a lesser compensation.

  770. 770 D3FB said at 6:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Why would they.

  771. 771 Patrick said at 4:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What other people said, trade for him, not pay the tag price of 2 first rounders. Still ridiculously unrealistic, but its fun to think about. The entire “plan” is based on Houston being so unhappy he doesn’t want to play for Chiefs and lowering his value to someting like a second. Then theres the contract, which will be huge.

  772. 772 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/Rotoworld_FB/status/575015021261905920

  773. 773 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That could work out with the cap space we have this year, we take most of the toll this year and soften it after

  774. 774 Donald Kalinowski said at 3:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’d rather give a little more to sign Jason Worilds.

  775. 775 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Where does your faith in worilds come from? Steelers fan don’t really believe in him, makes me worried.

  776. 776 BobSmith77 said at 4:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    $30M for 4 years for a role player in this scheme? Easy decision to let him walk if that is the case.

  777. 777 Dominik said at 3:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Adam Schefter
    ‏@AdamSchefter

    Patriots not picking up $20 million option in Darrelle Revis’ contract; now set to become free agent Tuesday.

    I WANT HIM. Legion of Boom reloaded, just with lesser Safety play. πŸ˜€

  778. 778 anon said at 3:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that was obvious to me when they signed McCourty

  779. 779 Dominik said at 3:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    For me, too. But I’m only half kidding. Since we missed on McCourty and Maclin, we have some wiggle room. If you give me Maxwell and Revis, I don’t care about the safety as long as he’s a little bit better than Nate. Which shouldn’t be too hard to do for solid, not huge money.

    But it won’t be easy. Pats will have an offer, the Jets probably will break the bank. Remember, Bowles likes to bring exotic blitzes, you need good CBs for that and he has 0 good CBs on the roster.

  780. 780 anon said at 3:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s just too expensive if you’re not a SB calibur team. Pats used him right.

  781. 781 Dominik said at 3:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s expensive, yes. And it probably won’t happen. But he’s just so damn good and he fits the #culture perfectly. I hoped for a few weeks now that McCourty or Revis become available. McCourty was and we were all in, I hope the same goes for Revis, altough, to be clear, the need for a CB is not the same (anymore) as the need for Safety.

    But in an unorthodox way, you would fill the need for a Safety with Revis (kind of). Even Nate couldn’t f*ck up too many plays if Revis and Maxwell are covering the WRs. Safety play helps CBs, but it goes the other way around, too.

  782. 782 Insomniac said at 3:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You’re tying up at least $15m for a soon to be declining player. Champ Bailey was a phenomenal athlete but even he couldn’t stop father time.

  783. 783 Dominik said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Revis play hasn’t exactly missed a step last year… +, I would argue that what makes Sherman and Revis great isn’t their speed, but their anticipation and their vision. Hell, Sherman isn’t fast for a CB. Was never fast.

  784. 784 Insomniac said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So was Nnamdi.

  785. 785 Dominik said at 5:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not saying all slow CBs are good. Otherwise, I could be a good CB. πŸ˜‰

  786. 786 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 3:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    think Pats have same issue with Browner. doubt Revis being cut is even news in novacare. but Browner might be

  787. 787 Dominik said at 3:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But does Browner fit #culture?

  788. 788 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 3:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i dont give a ratzass. this point, i’d sign Hardy

  789. 789 botto said at 3:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    graham has always said he wants to be here, if he chooses the giants well then, that’s as bad as it gets

  790. 790 anon said at 3:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    don’t think he has other options.

  791. 791 botto said at 3:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    the eagles

  792. 792 anon said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    mosher said eagles not interested

  793. 793 Patrick said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Makes it super weird that we apparently just resigned him.

  794. 794 anon said at 4:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah you’re right

  795. 795 Patrick said at 4:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    With the amount of information out there, it still baffles me how a reporter who is supposed to be knowledgeable about Philly, can be so wrong to feel confident saying we have NO interest in him.

  796. 796 Ark87 said at 4:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mosher slam!

  797. 797 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 3:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    bg coming home. 4 yrs 26m 14m g’d. per mcnamus

  798. 798 Frencheaglesfan said at 3:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    really? Awesome!

  799. 799 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Quite a discount from the rumors of what he was expecting. Chip Kelly you racist, pay him like a white dude.

  800. 800 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yup, he played the market and lost. i thought 4yrs 30m with 18m g’d. market last yr for BG type was pretty aggressive. wasnt it griffen who got 3yrs 30m w/ 20m g’d?

  801. 801 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    5 years 42.5m$

  802. 802 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 4:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    guaranteed money is what matters. he’ll never see that 5th yr, might just be thrown in to extend prorated bonus. my guess is it’ll look like a 3yr deal, with salary ballooning in 4th, sort of like how shady’s did. if bg is terrible, can get out after 2, but let’s hope it doesnt come to that.

  803. 803 Dominik said at 4:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good news. I’m sure not what Graham expected and if he’s happy, but I like it. Fair avg., fair guar. Graham is one of those players where I can see upside with more playing time.

  804. 804 Jason said at 3:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes!

    Tim McManus ‏@Tim_McManus 1m1 minute ago
    Two sources close to Graham suggest he’s returning to Eagles. 4 years, 6.5 million per, $14 million guaranteed.

  805. 805 mksp said at 4:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This seems okay. Good deal for both parties.

  806. 806 Greg Richards said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    In general, the pass-rusher market hasn’t been as hot as I expected. Jerry Hughes got $8M per from Buffalo. I was expecting him to land a deal closer to $10M a year. I think depth of pass-rushing OLBs in this year’s draft may be affecting market.

  807. 807 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Home Discount

  808. 808 anon said at 4:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Stephen A must have guilted them into signing another black guy

  809. 809 Greg Richards said at 4:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I didn’t see that but Stephen Smith is a complete idiot.

  810. 810 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 4:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    eags held tight and got their number. think bg was at 16m g’d and eags were closer to 10m during season. not sure it really matters, either way he’s a 2 yr liability.

  811. 811 Greg Richards said at 4:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t think he’s a liability but I don’t know if he’s a full-time starter either. Best role is rotational pass-rusher.

  812. 812 anon said at 4:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe we can get T. Cole back now??

  813. 813 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 4:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    liability as in, he’s on the team no matter what, per money. i dont mean his play.

  814. 814 ACViking said at 5:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    MKSP (if you see this):

    Graham’s deal is the flip side of Maclins . . .

    The market set the price.

    Graham came back here at just $14m guaranteed for a supposed Rush OLB — and less than McPhee! — because no other team in the NFL saw him as worth any more.

    Maclin? Just the opposite.

    Graham would be going to the Raiders if they offered him more money than the Eagles.

    Great kid. Bad scheme.

    And couldn’t beat out a 32 year-old converted DE for 2 years.

    The market’s spoken.

  815. 815 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Awesome news!

  816. 816 Jason said at 4:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Pretty reasonable contract. Less than McPhee — could have been more expensive. Dispels the assumptions about him having to go to 4-3 team.

  817. 817 anon said at 4:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he had no market

  818. 818 BreakinAnklez said at 4:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I can’t decide if that’s good or bad…

  819. 819 anon said at 4:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    for us good, we know what he is represents value over guys like Worlids who can’t rush the passer.

  820. 820 Anders said at 4:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sounds really weird why, so either NFL teams are stupid (100% is) or media/fans overrated Graham (most likely also 100% true)

  821. 821 anon said at 4:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah he’s meh status in my book, but so are the rest of the guys that are out there, we’ve been discussing for a while whether Worlids or any of those other guys are actually good,

  822. 822 Anders said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I have zero clue how McPhee got more than Graham.

    I 100% take Graham over Worilds, Graham can rush the passer and I still value that the most in my OLB.

  823. 823 Greg Richards said at 4:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think he had a market. The market for pass-rushers in general is somewhat depressed.

  824. 824 botto said at 4:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    geagle called this one I think

  825. 825 anon said at 4:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    anon called this a couple of hours ago, GEAGLE co-signed.

  826. 826 Jason said at 4:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Then I change my mind — I hate the deal.

  827. 827 GermanEagle said at 4:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes, it is good for his percentages. He needs those hits though with Foles most likely getting traded.

  828. 828 Mac said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Per Mosher on twitter:

    I'd beware reports that Philly is still in play for Brandon Graham.— Geoff Mosher (@GeoffMosherCSN) March 9, 2015

    Whiffed on that one!

  829. 829 anon said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    maybe he meant “be aware”

  830. 830 GermanEagle said at 4:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mosher is a hack!

  831. 831 Mac said at 4:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mosh’s headed to the same bag with Roob, Les, and Spuds.

  832. 832 BobSmith77 said at 4:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not as high as some reported but still not a fan. Just not a good fit for this scheme and seems questionable value lot for a player who is on the field for maybe 50-60% of the defensive snaps.

  833. 833 botto said at 4:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    might be on the field more now though, no cole.

  834. 834 BobSmith77 said at 4:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If he gets most or all of Cole’s time this year, then Smith was a real bust.

  835. 835 Anders said at 4:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So if Graham gets most of Cole’s time and Smith gets Graham’s, how is that busting? that would mean Smith got around 40% of the snaps

  836. 836 BobSmith77 said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You would hope a 1st round pick in his 2nd year is getting on the field more than that.

    I would bet it would be more around 30-35%. Basically a role player.

  837. 837 Anders said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Smith was the 26th pick, essentially a 2nd rounder (there is never 32 1st round talents in a draft), so would you call Ertz a bust for not getting starter snaps in year 2?

  838. 838 Media Mike said at 4:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You don’t get to rewrite the rounds. 26th is a first rounder, like it or not.

  839. 839 Anders said at 4:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But NFL teams do not put draft picks in boxes like that, they put them in tiers and give them round grades and there is never more than 15 guys who get 1st round grades, so the 2nd half of the 1st round consist of a lot of 2nd round graded targets.

  840. 840 Media Mike said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s fine, but there are 32 picks in that round………all of whom are contractually treated differently than picks 33 through the end.

  841. 841 Anders said at 4:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    True, but you cant treat the 26th pick like you would the 6th pick.

  842. 842 Anders said at 4:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    True, but you cant treat the 26th pick like you would the 6th pick.

  843. 843 Media Mike said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agreed, and I certainly wouldn’t.

  844. 844 BobSmith77 said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No but I don’t think Ertz made much progress either as a player last year. He did have more catchers but that was almost solely a result of that fluky Skins game where Sanchez was literally throwing him on every down for an extended stretch.

    His blocking was still pretty shaky & kept him off the field more than he should have been.

  845. 845 Anders said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But that still does not make him a bust.

  846. 846 tomw said at 4:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Green Bay picked Rodgers 31st. Not bad.

  847. 847 tomw said at 4:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Green Bay picked Rodgers 31st. Not bad.

  848. 848 Media Mike said at 4:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But sat him for a while to be fair.

  849. 849 tomw said at 4:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah. Behind the other bum QB they had.

  850. 850 Jason said at 4:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This knock on B. Graham seems a red herring. He was kept from snaps because of scheme and other personnel. And becuase Jim Wasbhurn was an idiot who didn’t want to play him. Didn’t Tommy emphasize his motor in college as being a plus?

    The question on Graham was whether he could play in space occasionally as the Predator in this scheme. I think he answered that this past season.

  851. 851 scratcherk said at 4:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Andre Johnson cut. Is he worth the $$?

  852. 852 anon said at 4:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yes!!!!!!!!!

  853. 853 Dominik said at 4:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Depends on the $$. πŸ˜‰

  854. 854 scratcherk said at 4:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Would be cheaper than Maclin at least. Make it happen

  855. 855 botto said at 4:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yes, he is someone defenses would game plan for right?
    and break tackles and goes deep and red zone.
    and a vet for Jmatt and Huff to work with

  856. 856 unhinged said at 6:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He knows how to high-point, which we haven’t seen much of since Buddy Ryan cut Cris Carter because “…all he did was catch touchdowns…”.

  857. 857 Ben Hert said at 4:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Really excited to see what BG can do this year as a full time OLB. I mean, assuming he’s the guy. Getting a guy that productive in our system on a deal like that gives me something to look forward to.

  858. 858 GermanEagle said at 4:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I got my concerns given his physical abilities. He doesn’t particularily strike me as a super fit 3 down LB who will not wear down after playing many snaps on D.
    But for that price [14 Mio Gtd] I don’t have a problem with him coming back.

  859. 859 botto said at 4:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he does look out of shape to me too sometimes

  860. 860 GermanEagle said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    How can I put it kindly…His belly looked cute when I met him after the season opener last year.

  861. 861 Patrick said at 4:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Guy can get after the QB though, and we really needed that. On 3rd down he will probably play with his hand in the ground, leaving Kendricks and Alonso to cover. Graham-Cox-Curry-Barwin can bring the heat on 3rd and long.

  862. 862 Anders said at 4:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Thats one nasty 4 DL set, with Alonso and Kendricks ready to blitz as well

  863. 863 Patrick said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Our front 7 is incredibly talented. Could turn out to be very dominant. Connor Barwin is the oldest and dude is 28. Obviously Graham needs to prove he is full time starter, but we can stop the run and hunt the QB.

    Now we just need 2 more DBs.

  864. 864 BobSmith77 said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hasn’t the knock always been on Graham that he is a ‘gets close but no cigar’ pass rusher?

    Nice to see some stats on him that looked at his production and by play type (2nd/3rd down and yardage)

  865. 865 Patrick said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, but he has never been a starter either, and still made plays for us and brought pressure. It’ll be interesting to see if he can develop into what I think could be a player similar to Trent Cole. Vicious run defender and an above average pass rusher.
    With injuries, being stuck behind Trent Cole and shifting from DE to OLB, his breakout season have been pushed back consistently. Now he really gets his chance.

  866. 866 BlindChow said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He started the last couple games this year, didn’t he?

  867. 867 Ben Hert said at 4:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I can agree there, we’ve never really had the chance to see him in a full-time role, but its nice to finally have the chance to see it and if he can handle it. He got his money, now its time to shine.

  868. 868 Mac said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Role player’s gotta roll.

  869. 869 wee2424 said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He needs to get into better shape. Now that he has his contract and starting spot for the first time in his career hopefully he does that.

  870. 870 Patrick said at 4:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think this whole PFF/PFT or whoever ranks him as the 3rd best pass rusher is kinda silly, but one thing is for certain. BG has much better pass rushing skills than a guy like Worilds, and with Barwin on the opposite side, we needed someone to bring pressure of the edge. Very good deal for the Eagles too.

    Now bring me a safety and another corner, bringing that Philly defense back to where its supposed to be. Searcy and Cromatie, and we’ll have a mean and most importantly young, defense with loads of potential.

  871. 871 BobSmith77 said at 4:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Given how much Twitter and Instagram to a lesser degree stir the pot in FA, I have to wonder if it wouldn’t benefit a professional team to actively employ a ‘Disinformation Dept.’

    Question is how effective it actually would be and more so what the ramifications would be if caught. You obviously couldn’t use team employees and would use a contractor through an intermediary so that you would have complete culpability even if caught.

  872. 872 Greg Richards said at 4:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think those already exists. Teams feed reporters false info all the time, particularly about the draft.

  873. 873 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Barwin Kendricks Alonso Graham sure looks good to me

  874. 874 Ark87 said at 4:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That makes a great DL, a good-great LB corps, just need to fix that 1 safety and CB spot and we are set on paper (it’s football, injuries burn that paper every year)

  875. 875 wee2424 said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Been saying this but I think Carroll may be a good 2 CB with a good defense around him. Watkins would take over his role from last year.

  876. 876 Ark87 said at 4:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    good point, I have hopes for Carroll if he can stay healthy

  877. 877 GermanEagle said at 4:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Plus Maxwell and Revis as our corners. *wetdream

  878. 878 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would prefer Moore and a draft pick to challenge watkins, caroll for the 2nd cb.

  879. 879 Patrick said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Watkins was a 4th rounder, Carroll never really looked like a guy about to light up the NFL and rookie CBs rarely do well, counting on one of them to be an NFL starter looks a little to risky for my taste.

    its not Revis or bust, but we need to bring in someone who has played in the NFL with at least some succes.

  880. 880 unhinged said at 6:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    2 years ago that was Bradley Fletcher.

  881. 881 GermanEagle said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    We won’t have any draft picks this year left. πŸ˜‰

  882. 882 wee2424 said at 4:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would rather save some money by having Carroll start at the other CB spot and see what we can do with the G position in FA.

  883. 883 botto said at 4:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wetdreamteam?

  884. 884 BobSmith77 said at 4:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not quite the same ring as ‘Gang Green’ defense.

  885. 885 botto said at 4:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    not at all

  886. 886 Media Mike said at 4:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Grham’s signing (and the low # for “starting OLB) should demonstrate that they think Smith II is going to contribute a ton more this year. You don’t go out and go hog wild at OLB with a big money deal unless you’ve given up on Smith II playing better.

  887. 887 iceberg584 said at 4:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, I think the idea will be for MSII to rotate in more this season (basically the Graham role from last year), and if things work out, eventually replace Graham (or Barwin).

  888. 888 Media Mike said at 4:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Has to be or they would have invested more money into the position.

  889. 889 Anders said at 4:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Eagles clearly knew this signing well before it was leaked:

    http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/article-1/LB-Brandon-Graham-Returning-To-Eagles/349a6a4e-79fa-411b-b2a9-db8a33cb8737

    No way they had time to do that segment in that short time since it was official

  890. 890 Media Mike said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nice. I hope the post the Reavis one early by accident.

  891. 891 Anders said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    haha that would have been great (and cost us a draft pick or 2 tho)

  892. 892 Greg Richards said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Think they have pre-written articles and graphics for players already on team and most of the FAs outside of the team just in case. Like pre-written obituaries.

  893. 893 Media Mike said at 4:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    How does the Reavis one look?

  894. 894 Greg Richards said at 4:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t you just wait for later tonight?

  895. 895 Media Mike said at 4:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No, I have a meeting to attend from 6 to 8 and fear I might miss it.

  896. 896 Baloophi said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I bet there’s a “Welcome Back Mac!” segment sitting in the archive somewhere…

  897. 897 Media Mike said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    And to think this day started with vile and disgusting rumors of the Eagles adding that piece of garbage illiterate Kapertrash to the team.

    Things have improved nicely.

  898. 898 myartz04 said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    *bicep kiss*

  899. 899 Media Mike said at 4:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Of last place, a dead end career, and overall poor play. He can kiss off.

  900. 900 myartz04 said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    For the record. I hate him as a player.

  901. 901 Media Mike said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Word! I love when he’s dominated by Sherman.

  902. 902 GEAGLE said at 4:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What happened? So out of the loop.

  903. 903 Media Mike said at 4:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Report came out Niners were shopping Kaepertrash and a subsequent report said the Eagles were in on it.

    Balke went ballistic about it being false and that falseness was confirmed by Shefter, etc.

  904. 904 botto said at 4:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    if all it means is he said eff you to the giants, that’s good enough for me.

  905. 905 iceberg584 said at 4:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I also love the fact that the primary line of effort for the Giants in free agency was to pursue and sign Graham, and we pulled the carpet right out from under them. As Sun Tzu says, the best strategy is to defeat your enemy’s plans.

  906. 906 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    coming from a giants fan regarding graham return: “Disappointing
    ,It would be nice if the Giants actually land a FA of impact soon”

  907. 907 BobSmith77 said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is this a better team than the one that ended the season? I clearly say ‘no’ but I guess it depends on what they do in the draft.

    I’m have been pretty underwhelmed by what they have done so far. Willing to see what unfolds since it is early though.

  908. 908 Media Mike said at 4:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t judge yet. Need to see how the rest of the signings go and add that to any possible draft picks that play year one and any current young guys on the roster who step up from what they did last year.

  909. 909 BobSmith77 said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You have to wait for the draft really.

  910. 910 Media Mike said at 4:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe. We’re not done with signings yet and I want to see who is ready to step it up in camp this year going into the season.

    Somebody out of Smith II, Huff, Hart, Watkins, etc. should improve and add some value we didn’t see last year.

  911. 911 Ark87 said at 4:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not counting on anything in the draft, unless we get Marriota, Chip doesn’t look to rookies to be difference makers. He actively rejects that expectation the rest of the league has for rookies (having difference-makers on rookie contracts has become huge in the formula for making a super-bowl roster).

  912. 912 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Want to see us get a decent S and at least one WR in FA.

    I like Shorts at WR but I know I’m in a pretty small fan club on that one.

  913. 913 anon said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah he won’t come for a while — be interesting to see what AJ gets on the open market.

  914. 914 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    AJ’s a tough one. Personally I think he might be done and I’d be worried he’s the sort who’ll fall off fast but he’s not that old, and plenty of WRs have been productive into their late 30s.

    Someone (not the Eagles) probably throws money at him but if he could be got at a discount I think he’s worth the risk.

  915. 915 Media Mike said at 4:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    85 catches last year. He’s still very very good, he’s just not explosive. He’d be open all day every day in this system.

  916. 916 anon said at 5:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    catching td after td he’s like 6’4″

  917. 917 Anders said at 5:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    and his impact will be big in an area where we need it

  918. 918 Greg Richards said at 4:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Browns’ assigned a 2nd round tender to Tashaun Gipson. If he were unrestricted, he’d be clear #2 option behind McCourty. Don’t think I’d give up a 2nd round pick for him but it’s close.

  919. 919 Anders said at 4:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What pick in the 2nd round do you think would be better than Gipson, taking the need for a safety into account?

  920. 920 Greg Richards said at 4:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s not Gipson versus 2nd round pick it’s Gipson versus 2nd round pick and other FA options we can sign at safety(Rahim Moore, Marcus Gilchrist).

  921. 921 Mac said at 4:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agreed, it’s not like we can draft a safety (looks at current track record).

  922. 922 GEAGLE said at 4:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would,.,kid can really play. Great fit for our scheme

  923. 923 scratcherk said at 4:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    2nd round tender for gipson.

    probably the best safety available. worth a second rounder?

  924. 924 Media Mike said at 4:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not happening. There is massive collusion in the NFL on restricted guys.

  925. 925 Anders said at 4:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    There is no collusion, its just like with tagged players, you can rarely make a contract that the tagging team wont match and if you can, you do not want to pay picks on top of it.

  926. 926 Greg Richards said at 4:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hawkins went from Cincy to Cleveland last year. We signed Mike Bell a few years ago. Don’t think that is really about collusion as much as teams don’t want to waste their cap room for 3 days while other options are going off the table.

  927. 927 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/575032828250947584

  928. 928 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t think we had a real shot, he wanted to stay.

  929. 929 Jernst said at 5:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yea … I’m almost positive we offered him more money than $6mil per year. Jenkins has an average salary of $5.2mil per year.

  930. 930 CrackSammich said at 7:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s cap hit, not salary.

  931. 931 GermanEagle said at 4:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Re the “wetdreamteam” (props to botto):
    If the Eagles can pull this off by signing Revis, our starting CB tandem would instantly become better than the Seahawks’ one from last season.

  932. 932 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What about crabtree? Instead of revis.

  933. 933 GermanEagle said at 4:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t like. Besides Revis >>>>>>>>>>>> Crabtree.

  934. 934 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He is too expensive.

  935. 935 GermanEagle said at 4:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s not my money.

  936. 936 Media Mike said at 4:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Crabtree is sorry.

  937. 937 Media Mike said at 4:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nice!

  938. 938 GEAGLE said at 4:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Just read a disturbing email, asked a few questions in my reply, still waiting for a response.

    Email basically says, Crabtree to the bills, Torrey to the niners…,

    Next two names were Mike Wallace and Dwayne Bowe,… Basically a nightmare for me, hate all 4 of them…

    OLB news makes me worried. Either BG or Worlids, and that if we are able to sign one, Meco may be cut shortly afterwards(HOPE NOT)

  939. 939 OldDuckMcDoc said at 4:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    BG already signed.

    https://twitter.com/Tim_McManus/status/575027914368008194

  940. 940 GEAGLE said at 5:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i know… im worried about the second half of the email… the part where we may cut Meco if we were able to sign worlids or BG….
    ..
    but it was like 10 hours old, and i dont know if Getting BG for only 14mil in guarantees changes that… hopefully meco stays.
    ..
    but when you crap on our locker room the way they did with Maclin, they might as well go all the way and get this all out of the way now, Cut Meco and Celek… if culture, leadership doesnt matter, what the point in a 6mil backup ILB off achilies.. and whats the point in paying Celek as much as he makes to be a blocking TE.. if all that matters is the players ability in relation to his contract, then might as well cut Meco, and celek too…

    really hope we dont get any of those WR names

  941. 941 OldDuckMcDoc said at 5:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t see the Maclin move as crapping on the locker room. Would’ve liked to have him back but $11m per is crazy money for a guy with one 1k season.

    Whatever happens with Meco will partially sucks. If he stays it’s probably because we trade Kendricks (which sucks). If he goes, well, Meco goes, which also sucks.

  942. 942 Media Mike said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Andre Johnson, yo.

  943. 943 mksp said at 5:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Are you really still pretending like you have any meaningful information to share, whatsoever?

    Give it a rest dude. Stop doubling down.

  944. 944 oreofestar said at 6:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I heard the Crab tree thing was fake

  945. 945 Jason said at 4:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Question for Tommy when he does Brandon Graham post and the impact on Marcus Smith. In order to bring along Marcus Smith slowly but steadily, could Smith in theory backup both Graham and Barwin and take snaps at Predator and Jack — or do you have to serve as only one in this defense?

  946. 946 Media Mike said at 4:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good questions, but I’d hope Smith could play both.

  947. 947 Weapon Y said at 4:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Obviously I’m not Tommy, but my bet is the Eagles will get someone else to be the primary backup. I think Chip has zero trust in Smith. I honestly believe Smith is in danger of getting cut in the preseason. Travis Long has a good chance to stick. The Eagles could draft someone late or sign a cheap free agent.

  948. 948 Jason said at 5:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think that is way overstated. I think it is far more plausible to look at the willingness to let T. Cole walk as a signal that they expected M. Smith to assume the snaps behind Graham or a pass rushing OLB they would bring in through FA.

  949. 949 Duracell said at 5:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not normally not someone to post things like this, because you have no way to know I’m telling the truth and I’m not going to reveal my source. That said, I was told by someone with the Eagles last August not to expect anything out of Marcus Smith in year one. He wasn’t super high on Marcus, but they knew going into the year that’s likely how it would turn out. I doubt they are ready to give up on him.

  950. 950 Weapon Y said at 8:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’ve got no inside info. Just a gut feeling that Chip likes Long better than Smith. And the way Chip talked about Smith to the media left me the impression that he does not care for him.

  951. 951 Jason said at 5:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    To begin to answer my own question, maybe Marcus Smith is really slated for the Jack position behind Barwin. Given this reaffirmation of B. Graham’s role and having Curry as a valuable pass rusher in nickle, you’ve got those significant pass rushing snaps accounted for.

    If Smith’s athleticism and build are more suited for coverage than pass rush, then maybe it makes more sense for him to focus on the Jack position, again, if one must choose a side in the Davis scheme.

  952. 952 Jason said at 5:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Graham resigning also ends the speculation about an unwise shift of Alonso to OLB. Also heightens possibility of a Ryans release or restructure.

  953. 953 D3FB said at 6:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Graham played both LOLB and ROLB when he rotated in last season. It would be logical to suggest that MSII will fill a similar role.

    BG has never played more than like 400 snaps in a year. But for some reason resigning him means that MSII is done. I don’t understand.

  954. 954 Frencheaglesfan said at 4:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow, report that Bowman failed physicals and might be cut. Bowman, Willis, the niners are falling apart.

  955. 955 anon said at 4:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i’d put bowman on my IR unless that knee is totally done.

  956. 956 GEAGLE said at 5:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    justin smith is also said to be mulling retirement

  957. 957 Frencheaglesfan said at 5:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That would be crazy. I don’t know how you can survive the loss of 3 star players.

  958. 958 anon said at 5:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    haha i see what you did. It’d be 4 if they don’t keep Bowman.

  959. 959 ACViking said at 5:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Per GEagle . . . February 2014:

    “49ers are dead”

    (Or words to that effect)

  960. 960 Ark87 said at 5:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    As far as I’m concerned they were done the minute the let Jim Harbaugh go. No way they come out of this looking like anything but a trainwreck being run by everyone’s scary uncle (refresh for bonus)

    http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site568/2014/1231/20141231__0101tomsula~1_300.JPG

  961. 961 Media Mike said at 5:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m still most in favor of Andre Johnson at this point for a possible WR addition. D3FB’s very interesting suggestion of Hankerson aside, I think Johnson provides a decent option to help round out the receiving group for a year or two with a player of decent quality.

    He was 85-936-3 last year. Hardly world beating, but nowhere near done.

    Pat Kirwan ballparked Johnson as a guy who’d get 3 years with $5 mil / year and lower guaranteed money.

    That would fit well here.

  962. 962 shah8 said at 5:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Betcha Johnson would be more “comfortable” in Carolina!

    ?:~P

  963. 963 Media Mike said at 5:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    With garbage QB dead end Scam Newton? Ew.

  964. 964 shah8 said at 5:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ryan.Fitzpatrick.

  965. 965 anon said at 5:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he was also playing with completely random QBs.

  966. 966 Ben Hert said at 5:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not like he’s got a better QB situation here.

  967. 967 Media Mike said at 5:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Say what?

  968. 968 bill said at 5:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, I’d wait to sign as long as the rumors that Kaep might come here are circulating. Riley Cooper’s blocking skills will be the most important WR contributions in that instance.

  969. 969 scratcherk said at 5:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that may not change if he comes here

  970. 970 Media Mike said at 5:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    How so?

  971. 971 Ark87 said at 5:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So our weapons would be Frank Gore, Darren Sproles, and Andre Johnson. We just blew up half our roster, even if the talent level nets positive, the lack of roster continuity alone with people learning new systems+chemistry pretty much cuts off any super bowl aspirations this year. I’m pretty much against adding anymore past their prime players.

  972. 972 anon said at 5:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    you thought we were going there w/ those other guys? I can almost guarantee we’ll be way better.

    It’s not about the players, it’s do we have the type of players that can produce in the red zone and on 3rd down. How many games do we win last year if we aren’t kicking so many FGs. McCoy coming out on 3rd down, short yardage and goal line situations. Mac isn’t high pointing balls or catching back shoulder balls.

  973. 973 Ark87 said at 5:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So new running back, WR, QB (a rookie if everyone gets their way), and guard on an offense-oriented team and none of those spots are even upgrades in any context yet alone a bunch of dudes learning a brand new scheme/culture when they get here. The secondary will almost certainly be vastly improved on paper, but it will likely take a year to really get it where we want it. Secondaries need to build chemistry. Heck I like Kiko but he’s coming off an injury and needs to get integrated into this defense, it make take a year to see all these defensive moves to really pay dividends.

    This type of roster turn-over at the top of the depth chart is rebuild territory.

    edit: about the red zone stuff. Maybe we get better there. But lets not take moving the ball between the 20’s for granted. If we aren’t dangerous in space, being dangerous in the red zone doesn’t help all the much.

  974. 974 Insomniac said at 5:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The team is getting more physical. Finally!!!!!

  975. 975 Tumtum said at 5:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not a bad point. If we sell the farm for MM you can really eliminate all Superbowl aspirations.

    Really though if you were going to contend for a Superbowl, THIS year, do you make half these moves? Hate to say it. Maybe Chip just felt the team had peaked with the current pieces and decided it was time to make a few dramatic changes.

  976. 976 Ark87 said at 5:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think you’re right, but that’s why I’d stay away from giving a bunch of money to these aging stars. 2016 might be our year, but I really don’t see 2015 coming through. Don’t see a point in investing in short-term players. It’s kind of like, signing Boldin made so much sense for the 49ers who needed just a little bit of impact to get over the edge (came up short), but wouldn’t make sense for the Jaguars other than to sell a few extra tickets.

    It doesn’t make sense for Philly’s context

  977. 977 Jason said at 5:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    AJ has specifically talked about playing with a team with a good QB after the flotsam and jetsam of Houston in recent years. I’m not sure our QB situation will settle in time for signing Johnson.

  978. 978 anon said at 5:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Foles is way better than even Schaub in his prime. Worst case it’s MM. I could see him going to baltimore, but he’s got to see the WR numbers we put up the last 2 years and be encouraged.

  979. 979 shah8 said at 5:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No. Not remotely true. Seen Schaub since his days in Atlanta. If Foles was like Young!Schaub, you wouldn’t ever had gotten a peep out of me, and we probably would be winning playoff games and DJax/Mac would still be here, etc…

  980. 980 anon said at 5:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    so schaub just fell all the way off one year?

  981. 981 shah8 said at 5:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Schaub is a good example of a pocket quarterback with mediocre arm who still had enough to play. Also, Schaub can actually make the full range of passes, when he was young.

    the big injury was to his foot in ?2011. Last two years in Houston and in Oakland, his arm dipped to below adequate.

  982. 982 shah8 said at 5:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    then again, I would have given him andy dalton lip.

    I’d still consider him a real QB.

  983. 983 Tumtum said at 5:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Those numbers with the QB situation he was put in. I don’t think he even played every game. That guy is still man mode. His size lends to longevity for him… you know other than being a detriment to his ability to stay healthy.

  984. 984 OldDuckMcDoc said at 5:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    At that money I’d be happy to have him. Bring in somebody else (SHORTS!) at similar money, try to get Huff more involved as season wears on and get Riley to the bench.

  985. 985 wee2424 said at 5:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m just worried about his injury history.

  986. 986 Sean Stott said at 5:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    BG IS BACK OMG

  987. 987 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So is GEAGLE lol

  988. 988 GEAGLE said at 5:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    huh?

  989. 989 Media Mike said at 5:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think folks were worried that you were upset of the Maclin loss.

  990. 990 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    There you are lol What happen to the Maclin staying prediction man?? Sheesh had me convinced then goneski

  991. 991 GEAGLE said at 5:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    sorry… have at it

  992. 992 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nah its all good lol

  993. 993 Tumtum said at 5:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Very reasonable contract. Lower end starting money though. Do they bring in another predator to contend for the starting spot?

  994. 994 Ark87 said at 5:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It was funny to watch everyone certain he was gone and convincing themselves they didn’t want him back anyway (good riddens you out of shape bastard, you can’t even handle the amount of reps that starters get!) and now that he’s back it’s just awkward.

  995. 995 GEAGLE said at 5:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Getting him back is awesome, im just pretty darn surprised at how little Guaranteed money he signed for, what was it $14mil? Wonder if we owe a big THANK YOU basket to Pernell McPhee for signing for 16mil in Guarantees… im wondering if the edge rusher market was too stacked, so stacked that teams had so many different options that we didnt see many bidding wars at the position… I wonder if a guy like BG would have gotten more in an edge market like last year.. GREAT DEAL for US! tho

    im hoping Meco isnt going to be cut shortly after. A week ago, i thought chip would be too classy to cut him after free agency started, had too much respect for Mufasa…. but now, it wouldnt surprise me the least bit

  996. 996 ACViking said at 5:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “Pernell McPhee for signing for 16mil in Guarantees”
    ___________

    Did Graham over-valued himself? (Actually his agent)

  997. 997 ShadyCrockett said at 5:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Safe to say you are concerned about Kelly’s lack of respect for the locker room?

  998. 998 Nick C said at 5:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ok so bare with me for this post but I have been gone for a few hours (not crying I swear), and have a few thoughts:
    Firstly, Geagle, I’m sure you have gotten a ton of shit for the whole Maclin thing but I am sure you can see now why I was worried (along with the rest of us). You might have been sure, or even had some relevant information, but things do change in the NFL by the minute. And I’m not gonna give you shit, or call you a hack like some others, because the truth is that you post insightful ideas and give topics worth discussion between some of the arrogance. And I’m not gonna act like I know you as I am “new” to posting on these blogs– Furthermore, some of us could tell Maclin and his agent have been dragging his feet the entire time throughout this process. Did he just really want more money the entire time? Was he concerned about the QB, or his other friends here? None of us really know. But we do know that he did not show nearly the same loyalty as Cobb did.
    Secondly, I like some of the moves the last couple of days and some I don’t; however, the Brandon Graham resigning was absolutely a winner for me. I know hes a situational guy, but OLB seems to be a much more difficult position to address for us than WR. We still have other needs and instability, but this one helped a lot I believe. Now I’m just an armchair GM like the rest of us, but we are all on here daily because we do have a passion about this team. I, for one, have a degree in Sport Management so this kind of stuff fascinates me. Hopefully, we will see some more to get excited about in the next few days/hours

  999. 999 Jason said at 5:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Before this weekend started, who would have imagined that Brandon Graham would have been the one to resist a final offer and emotionally return to the team and Jeremy Maclin would be the one to spurn the Birds for a more lucrative offer elsewhere?

  1000. 1000 Media Mike said at 5:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Uncle Moneybags?

  1001. 1001 GermanEagle said at 5:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    One of the many reasons why you should always take players comments with a huge grain of salt.

  1002. 1002 Tumtum said at 5:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would not assume that BG gave us a home-town discount.

    Maclin’s boys were sent away quick with big contracts. I don’t really blame him at all for what he did. It gives me more of a reason to cheer for KC than just Reid and the other few former Eagles.

  1003. 1003 ACViking said at 5:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The market told Graham he wasn’t worth what he was looking for.

    Only $14 million guaranteed?

    Jeez.

  1004. 1004 Jason said at 5:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ACV,
    The reports are that the Giants had a deal in place with BG and the Eagles brought him back at the 11th and a half hour. Don’t know the terms of that offer, but by all reports there was some interest out there in him.

  1005. 1005 ACViking said at 5:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Thanks, Jason.

    What I meant is . . . while a number of teams may have expressed interest, in dollars-and-cents terms Graham wasn’t getting the kind of offers that even McPhee received.

    He’s not played DE for two years. There’s no tape on him for that period playing in a 4-3.

    And he couldn’t beat out TCole for the starting spot.

    Maybe those things hurt his value.
    _________

    By the way, this deal looks like a 2-year marriage.

    I’ll be interested to see how the guaranteed money is allocated.

  1006. 1006 Jason said at 5:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ACV,
    As usual, can’t disagree with anything you wrote above. I’m glad market worked out to bring him back after it had the opposite effect of steering Maclin away.

  1007. 1007 wee2424 said at 5:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Lol after all these years him and JPP on the same team, imagine that.

  1008. 1008 Tumtum said at 5:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I mean the guy has never started (other than a stretch in his rookie year). He has had micro fracture surgery. He has battled weight problems in the past.

    I really like Graham, but he has so many red flags. He could of done much worse.

  1009. 1009 Greg Richards said at 5:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    People rip on Graham for his weight but the one year he slimmed down he did worse. Seems to play better being a little thick.

  1010. 1010 wee2424 said at 5:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That was at DE. I do think he should lose a little weight for OLB.

  1011. 1011 Ark87 said at 5:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good, i was beginning to think someone would finally brush that Chip (see what I did there) off his shoulder. He’ll be back at his best: angry.

  1012. 1012 Jason said at 5:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m not assuming any BG discount nor blaming Maclin for taking more money. Just saying you would have assumed BG would have bolted to a 4-3 team like the Giants after getting jerked around for playing time during his tenure in Philly.

  1013. 1013 Tumtum said at 5:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ahh, I see your point. Money being equal though, wouldn’t you rather be used in a situational role that you excelled in? If you can’t make the big bucks, how do you still net those career earnings? Extend the career. Good business decision IMO. Especially with that leg.

  1014. 1014 Jason said at 5:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He was really only allowed to excel in the midst of his final season after Kelly/Davis decided he could play in space. And this came after all of the history in his short time with the franchise: the Earl Thomas controversy (not his fault), the injury, and then being sidelined for that cretin Jason Babin in the horror show that was Castillo/Washburn Apocalypse Now.

    He gets through all that they switch to a 3-4. I just thought he could have said f— it, I’m out of here with the best salary I could find elsewhere.

    But to me it’s a nice story he is staying. Someone you can really get behind.

  1015. 1015 Jernst said at 5:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Granted we have to judge the Eagles this off season on what actually transpires not their grand plan, but I’d imagine that people would have a really different tone if the Eagles had lcoked up Graham and Maclin and signed Maxwell and McCourty like they planned.

  1016. 1016 anon said at 5:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    most people aren’t judged on the goals they set,but the ones the achieve.

  1017. 1017 scratcherk said at 5:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m happy with way things are transpiring. Didn’t expect them to hit on everyone. I’m surprised they even got Maxwell, expected him to go with one of his former coaches. Now, just get a safety and a WR>

  1018. 1018 wee2424 said at 5:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I assumed Maclin was going to stay and that Graham was lost. Boy was I wrong on that, lol almost all of us were.

  1019. 1019 Mr. Magee said at 5:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Umm, who’s gonna play QB for Eagles next year..?

  1020. 1020 Greg Richards said at 5:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    G.J. Kinne.

  1021. 1021 Mr. Magee said at 5:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not Dixon?

  1022. 1022 Ark87 said at 5:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    well given our recent history, probably 2-3 guys.

  1023. 1023 James said at 5:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kromwell Mcdougleberry.

  1024. 1024 Iskar36 said at 5:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    A.A. Ron Rod Gers is way better.

  1025. 1025 Bert's Bells said at 5:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/Cards/Non-Sport/74546/74546-6272025Fr.jpg

    This guy. #duckbias

  1026. 1026 D3FB said at 6:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Terry Bradshaw

  1027. 1027 Insomniac said at 6:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’d rather take McNabb out of retirement.

  1028. 1028 D3FB said at 6:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mariotta’s too softspoken!!!!!

    WE needz Broadway JOE!

  1029. 1029 truehaynes said at 5:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So what are the chances we actually get revis? We would surely have to cut demeco then we might still have enough space for searcy and a mid level wr. If our draft is only mariotta we shouldn’t need much left to sign him

  1030. 1030 ACViking said at 5:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Revis?

    The Eagles just gave Maxwell a deal with about $25 million guaranteed — for a 1-year starter.

    Richard Sherman’s deal has him at abt $11.5m per season is salary right now — with an $11 million bonus over 5 years to get him to re-up.
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/richard-sherman/

    If the Eagles go to Revis, seems like the discussion starts with a $35 in guarantees, right?

  1031. 1031 oreofestar said at 6:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sherman’s EXTENSION was and average of 14.4

  1032. 1032 ACViking said at 6:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    O:

    Sherman agreed to the extension in Y-4 of his rookie contract, just ahead of free agency.

    I’m sorry, but I’m not seeing the significance of the extension v. new contract distinction.

    (I think he cut Seattle some slack, FWIW — but I could be wrong.)

  1033. 1033 oreofestar said at 7:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    When its an extension often final year of rookie deal is lumped into it SK his 4 year 57.4mil extension can be looked at as 5 year 58mil and if Sherman was a fa he would have gotten 5/80/40 so yes he cut Seattle some slack

  1034. 1034 ACViking said at 7:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I see what you’re doing.

    Yes, makes the numbers work better.

  1035. 1035 Donald Kalinowski said at 5:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t get why you guys are so butt-hurt over a guy choosing to take an extra
    $1-2 MILLION per year for 4 to 5 years.

    Get over yourselves.

    And who cares if he said he wanted to stay here. He did. But it’s unfair to ask him to sacrifice $4 to $10 million.

  1036. 1036 Bert's Bells said at 5:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Seems like most guys on this board understand Maclin taking the cash.

  1037. 1037 botto said at 5:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah the fat man bellied up!

  1038. 1038 Insomniac said at 5:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He was offered 10% more and he bounced. It was all about the money from the start for Maclyn suxx

  1039. 1039 truehaynes said at 5:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m scared chip is going ti make it harder for us to get mm. I don’t see Tb or really any of the top 5 teams wanting him. There’s jusst so much projection. But now teams know that chip wants him so there going to want to get the rediculous compensation it will cost us to move up. If chip had played it cool I could see mm falling ti 10 but at this point were going ti have to trade into the top 5

  1040. 1040 botto said at 5:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the o-line is going to like blocking for gore.
    he will make them look good.
    and he is a bruiser, so everyone is going to be fired up.
    no negative rushes all positive.
    head down and getting yards.
    looking forward to more 3rd and 3’s….

    and then hundley/mariota/foles/sanchez/barkley pulls it and runs for 50/60/4/6/9 depending on which one it is….

  1041. 1041 A_T_G said at 7:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Excellent comment.

  1042. 1042 Jernst said at 5:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Where’d OregonDucker go? He was saying last week that a blockbuster draft trade was in the works, but if we didn’t hear about it by Monday that the chances of us getting Mariota would go way down and it probably wouldn’t happen. I know everyone is tired of discussing it, but that really is the million dollar question/elephant in the room right now. Chip does not seem set on Foles. Nothing he’s done with the offense seems geared towards continuing with Foles. They just gave Sanchez quasi-starter money (with incentives). I honestly have no idea what direction were gonna go with QB, but I’ve been convinced since the Shady release that the ultimate plan was a move for Mariota. Just wondering why all the whispers seemed to have dried up.

  1043. 1043 OldDuckMcDoc said at 5:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Increasingly worried the plan is draft Hundley and use Sanchez as a stop-gap in ’15.

    I effing hate that plan.

  1044. 1044 Jernst said at 5:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That plan makes me sad

  1045. 1045 anon said at 5:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    why take frank gore, just use a 2nd or 3ord in the draft. Draft is so deep at RB. only makes sense to me if we won’t have any picks that will net us a starter.

  1046. 1046 Jernst said at 5:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    agreed! Gore won’t still be here by the time Hundley is ready to start and we aren’t going anywhere with Sanchez at QB so why not get a rookie and give him some experience.

  1047. 1047 OldDuckMcDoc said at 6:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Pass blocking. Rookie RBs are a liability at it.

  1048. 1048 Jernst said at 5:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    At this point, I’d rather go all in to get THE GUY than to overdraft a questionable project as a lame plan B. I hope this is just the Eagles posturing so teams don’t rape us in a trade.

  1049. 1049 OldDuckMcDoc said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Agree completely. Don’t like Hundley at all. It would also mean sitting through a year of Sanchez as a starting QB.

    nty.

  1050. 1050 Jernst said at 6:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I just threw up a little

  1051. 1051 Jernst said at 6:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Plus if you just need a veteran to start a few games or even a year while a rookie gets up to speed, why not continue with Foles for the last year of his rookie deal. Unless you’re planning on trading him. Which, I mean, it’s totally possible Foles is traded for a pick that we use on a CB or Safety, but it seems like a big risk to give him up unless you’re getting someone back that you’re sure of at QB. And Sanchez/Hundley is not inspiring all kinds of confidence in me right now.

  1052. 1052 botto said at 6:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’d be so boring

  1053. 1053 Mr. Magee said at 6:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Me too… I think

  1054. 1054 Greg Richards said at 5:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Probably at work. Only 2:54 in Oregon.

  1055. 1055 jshort said at 5:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He was on last night exchanging with AC. It’s a done deal according to OD’s sources.

  1056. 1056 botto said at 5:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    was that dumb deal or done deal?

  1057. 1057 jshort said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Time will tell.

  1058. 1058 Jernst said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I didn’t see that…did he really say it’s a done deal?

  1059. 1059 Jernst said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    and if so, how come no announcement? Is it a draft day trade?

  1060. 1060 jshort said at 6:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You would have to follow the exchange with AC….AC asked him for a simple “yes” if the deal was done. At the end he posted “Yes” to AC that the deal was done. Ask AC or go back and scroll through it.

  1061. 1061 HawaiianEagle said at 6:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    OD used those exact words – “yes, done deal”.

  1062. 1062 jshort said at 6:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Just the “yes”…..Then AC replied something like …Good I can sleep tonight. Will go back and look.

  1063. 1063 jshort said at 6:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No! No! No!

    The trade. What about the trade.

    (That was very politic . . . answer an unasked question)

    That’s what AC asked….The yes answer from OD was underneath. Have to follow their whole exchange in the Maxwell, Gore piece.

  1064. 1064 Joe Minx said at 6:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Just went back through it & I didn’t see this anywhere. Am I losing my mind?

  1065. 1065 jshort said at 6:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maxwell, Gore comments

  1066. 1066 jshort said at 6:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not draft day

  1067. 1067 Mr. Magee said at 6:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Isn’t he just some poster like the rest of us? Does he really have inside sources, and does he have a track record? If yes, wonder why he is posting on a blog….

  1068. 1068 jshort said at 6:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t know…..But my source says, “Chip does things his way and doesn’t care what anyone thinks”. She’s not sure about MM. Her name Melody, sales rep for direct tv out of Oregon. Was having some trouble with the TV nice lady and a Duck/Kelly fan.

  1069. 1069 BlindChow said at 10:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No, he’s just some guy.

  1070. 1070 Mr. Magee said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Well said Jernst… posted similar thoughts myself here and elsewhere.

    See truehaynes comment below; I think Chip is (still) all in on MM, but is trying to drive down the price – albeit, somewhat belatedly. How else to explain some of these moves? Chip & co seem erratic now… Want Sanchez to compete, now trade for Kaepernik, no forget that, but “no way” we’re moving up for Mariota. All seems a bit scattershot. And since I don’t want to believe that’s the case, I’m thinking (hoping) he’s just trying to pull a misdirection on the other teams.

    Not necessarily a good one, but only explanation I can come up with.

  1071. 1071 Jernst said at 6:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea scattershot doesn’t seem to describe the well though out incredibly detailed plan that he sold Lurie on that apparently convinced the old man to neuter is golden child, Howie. But, it certainly seems to describe the overall plan at this point.

  1072. 1072 Mr. Magee said at 6:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    good point

  1073. 1073 A_T_G said at 7:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It is scattershot to us because we are getting information ranging from fact to made up click bait. Conversations pinball around until the truth comes out, but if you look back at the facts, it is pretty linear.

  1074. 1074 Jernst said at 7:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Oh I completely agree. That’s kind of what I thought we were saying. That there is definitely a very linear, well thought out plan in place and all these extraneous Foles rumors and Hundley rumors just don’t fit into that plan. If they were actually true, the plan would be totally scattershot and flying by the seat of our pants. If the plan is to trade up, draft Mariota, use Foles in that move, and preserve enough draft picks to take a guard, a WR and a RB, while signing another Safety and a mid level CB, that’s linear and fits with everything else that has happened. If the plan is suddenly to trade Foles for Kapernick, or move up to 10 to draft Hundley and start Sanchez for the next year and a half, then I’m totally lost.

  1075. 1075 ACViking said at 6:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    To answer the O.D. question —

    After exchanging some down-thread comments, I posted a new comment stating:

    “OregonDucker has, without qualification, said the Mariota deal’s going down.”

    I added a reply saying “hope that was okay.”

    OD replied back, “God. Now I have to drink even more!”

  1076. 1076 Jernst said at 6:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yea … I remember that. I certainly did not take that as him saying, “it’s a done deal”

  1077. 1077 ACViking said at 7:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    OD was clear that he’d been drinking heavily.

    Diminished capacity defense!

  1078. 1078 holeplug said at 6:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mariota wont happen til day of draft if it does.

  1079. 1079 Mitchell said at 6:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    For the rest of the FAs, I think I would like Andre Johnson and Searcy. Then have Watkins or Carrol start on the other side. I think Tobin may be able to start at guard. Then in the draft, if we dnt get MM. Get Strong in the first, Maudlin in the second, an OL of your choice in the 3rd and then use the 2 4ths to trade up for Geathers, Eskridge, Drummond or Shaw.

  1080. 1080 anon said at 6:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yup almost done — would like to get finished before FA even starts.

  1081. 1081 oreofestar said at 6:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Searcy is my dude out of who is left, need to get a wr probably will end up being Wallace/Johnson/Crab or Cameron dark horse. Probably going into the draft with CB, WR,G,QB? As the biggest needs

  1082. 1082 anon said at 6:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    if we get AJ, or AH or Stevie J, i’m ok with where we wre at WR. I like Huff and Jmattt.

  1083. 1083 oreofestar said at 6:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Need to see Homes more, I didn’t think of Stevie Johnson cuz of #culture I like Huff and JMatt too and I think Crab would excel here also what do think about my crazy Cameron idea?

  1084. 1084 anon said at 6:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Jordan? Like him but too many concussions.

  1085. 1085 Jernst said at 6:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m fine with Tobin coming back as a top back-up, but his play was pretty uninspiring with extended action last year. I would not be comfortable with him starting and a rookie 4th rounder as his only competition.

  1086. 1086 Mitchell said at 6:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    High ankle sprain. How old is he anyway?

  1087. 1087 Jernst said at 6:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You’re thinking of Allen Barbre I think. He went down with a high ankle sprain in week 1. Tobin missed some time with a concussion but that was it. Tobin is 24 by the way, Barbre is 30.

  1088. 1088 D3FB said at 6:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    A rookie 4th rounder wouldn’t be his only competition.
    It would be more like: Tobin v Barbre v Graf v day 3 pick

  1089. 1089 NinjaP said at 6:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maudlin in the second? gross.

  1090. 1090 Mitchell said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Why is it gross? Late second for a pass rusher. Seems the norm to me.

  1091. 1091 NinjaP said at 6:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Because maudlin sucks bro.

  1092. 1092 Mitchell said at 7:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yah but why does he suck? What did you see on tape to say that?

  1093. 1093 oreofestar said at 6:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hope Revis leave I want the Patriots to pay for taking McCourty

  1094. 1094 anon said at 6:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Could it be stevie johnson?

  1095. 1095 oreofestar said at 6:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe I just question character

  1096. 1096 ACViking said at 6:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Re: A Big Move Up — History Makes Foles the Key, And It’s Not Expensive

    In the past 30 years, teams have traded up from Nos. 16-19 to Nos. 8-10 just SIX times.

    The price of the deals: Swapping firsts, of course, plus anywhere from —

    (a) a 2nd [16 to 10 and 15 to 10],

    (b) two 3rds [24 to 13],

    (c) a 2nd and a 4th [19 to 8],

    (d) a 3rd [16 to 11] . . . and

    (e) a 3rd plus an untested backup QB projected to become the starter [17 to 10 – 2001 when Green Bay sent Hasselbeck to Seattle and new HC Holmgren].
    _______________

    In that same 30-year period, there have been just EIGHT trade-ups from Nos. 8-13 to Nos. 1-4.

    The price for those deals: Swapping 1sts, plus —

    (a) a 2nd and a 3rd [9 to 3],

    (b) two 1sts, same draft [16 to 1],

    (c) a 2nd [8 to 2 & 12 to 3],

    (d) 3 players, plus a 2nd (Jimmy Johnson) [11 to 1],

    (e) a 2nd and a 4th [10 to 2],

    (f) two 1sts, consecutive years [12 to 2], and

    (g) two 1sts, same draft, plus 4th [13 to 3].

    NOTE: In 1996, the Bengals moved from 5 to 1 at the cost of a 2nd Rd pick (to choose Ki Jana Carter). In 1997, the Rams moved from 6 to 1 for a 3rd, 4th, and 7th (to choose Orlando Pace).

    [The Rams’ heist of Washington for Griffin was an auction. Not a
    negotiation. So I have not included that deal in this comment.]
    _____________

    Can the Eagles get to the top of the draft? Seems like Foles would be the key — unless Kelly’s ready to part with a future 1st rd pick.

    On the off chance that the Eagles can get the Rams’ choice at No. 10 in a swap of 1sts plus Nick Foles, for example, the cost of then moving all the way to No. 1 or No. 2 would — I’d guess — still cost a 2nd and 3rd in 2015. Or some combination of high picks from the 2016 draft. Or a premium player plus a 2nd or possibly a 3rd pick.

    As for going straight from No. 20 to No. 1 . . .

    A move that far has never happened in NFL draft history.

    The closest is 1978, when Houston moved from 17 to 1.

    Houston and Tampa swapped 1sts, and Houston added a 2nd, 3rd, and 5th plus a soon-to-be All Pro TE named Jimmie Giles.

    With the first overall pick, Houston selected RB Earl Campbell.

    And with the 17th overall pick, Tampa chose QB Doug Williams.

    (If former Bucs owner Hugh Culverhouse wasn’t so cheap, the Bucs could have been a force in the early ’80s. But Williams left for the USFL over a contract dispute and, in a shock of horrible misfortune, FB Ricky Bell contracted a fatal illness.)
    _____________

    Anyway, seems to me — short of emptying the cupboard of 1st and 2nd Rd picks — Foles is the key to any big move up.

    If the Bears (7), Rams (10), or Browns (12) are interested in Foles, the Eagles could get all the way to No. 1 or No. 2 for the small price of their 2nd in 2015 and 2016.

    The data supports it.

  1097. 1097 oreofestar said at 6:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Honestly the whole 55 firsts nonsense is ridiculous I think people still have that monstrous RG3 deal on the brain

  1098. 1098 ACViking said at 6:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    O:

    That deal’s beyond an outlier.

    That deal is a footnote.

    If Tampa was auctioning off their 1st Rd pick, then — and only then — would the Washington deal enter the conversation.

    The problem, as noted the other day, is Washington broke the basic rule of sealed bids/silent auctions: ALWAYS OFFER LESS THAN MARKET.

  1099. 1099 OregonDucker said at 6:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You’re getting warm AC.

  1100. 1100 botto said at 6:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    lay it out there please

  1101. 1101 Jernst said at 6:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Damnit…I knew you were out there!! haha. I think essentially we’re looking at a 3 way trade with either Tampa or Tennessee. Either of those teams move back to pick 10 or 6 for a combo of 2nd and third round picks and then either the Jets or Rams get Foles, pick 20 and maybe…maybe another lower round pick.

  1102. 1102 Mr. Magee said at 8:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think you’re being trolled…

  1103. 1103 Jernst said at 6:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Do you know someone in the eagles front office or are you just trolling everyone?

  1104. 1104 Nailed it! said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I would love it if you were actually Chip, it would be perfect.

  1105. 1105 Mitchell said at 6:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    OMG. The ultimate troll. That would be truly awesome! Just imagine Chip typing and making the face in my profile pic.

  1106. 1106 Jernst said at 6:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Chip would instantly be a legend. But, let’s hope he’s got more pressing matters to attend to than to troll us on a blog all day

  1107. 1107 Nailed it! said at 6:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Why do you think he only comes on for ten minutes with cryptic thoughts. Coincidence I think not!

  1108. 1108 Jernst said at 6:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    very true…I think you cracked it…or should I say, “nailed it”

  1109. 1109 Jernst said at 6:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    After all the talk about how the compensation would be absurd and there was no way in hell that Kelly could pull it off, if he gets his boy Mariota by only giving up Foles and two 2nd rounders I think people will be ecstatic. That in no way mortgages the teams future for the next 5 years. In fact, it’s probably less of a gamble than handing Foles a big extension this offseason or after another year of mixed production. Giving Foles a huge financial commitment and locking ourselves into a mid tier QB at a huge cap hit would strap this team a whole lot more than foregoing 2 2nd round draft choices these next two years and having Mariota at a reasonable rookie contract for the next 5 years.

  1110. 1110 oreofestar said at 6:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the key is the Rams being willing to cough up the 10th pick. Something like Foles,20,5th may get them to do and I think the Titans would trade back to 10 for maybe our 3 this year and next year’s 1

  1111. 1111 anon said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wow that expensive to get up 7 spots? I guess that’s not terrible though.

  1112. 1112 oreofestar said at 6:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maybe less but 20, Foles,3,5, 2016 1 is better than the crap that’s been thrown around

  1113. 1113 Mac said at 7:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If you wanna do it the easy way, there is a recent trade that comps very well, look no further than the Jet’s trade for our very own Mark Sanchez.

  1114. 1114 ACViking said at 7:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mac:

    I left that out because of my parameters (Top 1-3).

    That traded was for the 5th overall.

    It involved 3 players, a swap of 1’s, plus the Jets’ 2nd.

    Which 3 players do you think would get TB or TN’s attention?

  1115. 1115 oreofestar said at 7:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t want to move Cox or Ken and if we are moving from 10 o don’t think it’ll be necessary at all but Curry and Boykin are names that can be thrown around

  1116. 1116 Mac said at 7:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Pick 3… Foles, Kendricks, Curry, Boykin

  1117. 1117 oreofestar said at 7:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kendricks out of there now!

  1118. 1118 Mac said at 11:15 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    To be truthful, I’d rather give up a 2nd and 3rd draft pick and keep Kendricks… maybe a deal like This year’s 1,2,3 plus Foles, Curry, Boykin?

  1119. 1119 Dominik said at 6:45 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/34/34bde2c7eac4b12fec8ebfad5b806f0f5c12f2f7493fd40ca2e01f5d6c84901e.jpg

    You sir, are a legend on this board. Great work!

  1120. 1120 oreofestar said at 6:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think Dre goes to the Colts I doubt he wants to come here with our QB situation

  1121. 1121 anon said at 6:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah Colts would be great for him, wow TY and Andre on the other side with Montcrief in the slot maybe? All they need is a RB and a pass rusher.

  1122. 1122 oreofestar said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah it makes sense, if Stevie checks out in the character department I’d take him, I still don’t mind Crab if he’s cheapish and Wallace isn’t awful he caught like 10 TDs he’s just overpaid

  1123. 1123 anon said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    agree but both wallace and stevie have charater issues, though i think stevie’s old coach is on the staff so could happen.

  1124. 1124 oreofestar said at 6:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Damn Iupati to the Cardinals I hate them

  1125. 1125 OldDuckMcDoc said at 6:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’ll be overpaid. Wouldn’t sweat it.

  1126. 1126 oreofestar said at 6:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t want him I just hate the Cardinals and don’t want them to get anyone

  1127. 1127 D3FB said at 6:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’d call them about Jonathan Cooper ASAP.

  1128. 1128 oreofestar said at 6:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    OMG Yes!

  1129. 1129 Mitchell said at 7:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Another 5/4th round special?

  1130. 1130 D3FB said at 7:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Or make it a Bryce Brown special. Make it conditional on his play. If he starts 16 games, its a 3, if he makes the pro bowl its a 2, if he does anything less it’s a 4th or 5th.

  1131. 1131 OldDuckMcDoc said at 7:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not sure we’ll have a second going spare for a while once Chip’s done with his QB plans…

  1132. 1132 Insomniac said at 7:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Do you think we could dupe them again with like..Foles for Cooper + a 2nd?

  1133. 1133 D3FB said at 7:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Grice, Cooper and a pick from them? bye bye Foles.

  1134. 1134 Ghost of Steve Van Buren said at 6:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    @RapSheet

    Free agent shocker: Frank Gore reconsiders potential/pending deal with the #Eagles, I’m told

  1135. 1135 anon said at 6:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    no fair you can’t reconsider deals made in the tamper period!

  1136. 1136 ACViking said at 7:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    A:

    Remember that for next year, too

  1137. 1137 D3FB said at 6:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Please dear god.

    Save us from ourselves Grigson.

  1138. 1138 anon said at 6:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    not a fan of frank the tank? there’s other people out there i guess, T Rich!

  1139. 1139 D3FB said at 7:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s a spread running game. You don’t need Bo Jackson to put up 1000 yards. So paying $5 mil a year for a 32 year old back didn’t give me warm fuzzys inside.

  1140. 1140 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Love the pick up … hated the price.

  1141. 1141 anon said at 7:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah i’d let Colts play 6+.

  1142. 1142 oreofestar said at 7:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if it was for the same price

  1143. 1143 ACViking said at 7:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    In the words of Tom Hagen . . .

    “But is it reliable?”

  1144. 1144 Nailed it! said at 6:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 4m4 minutes ago
    Free agent shocker: Frank Gore reconsiders potential/pending deal with the #Eagles, I’m told.

    Uhhhh

  1145. 1145 James said at 6:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Probably because they didnt sign Clint Boling yet so Gore is looking elsewhere.

  1146. 1146 oreofestar said at 6:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Does it have to do with Mac? Damnit

  1147. 1147 Nailed it! said at 6:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Sounds like the colts jumped in on him.

  1148. 1148 anon said at 7:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t think price is worth if it’s much more. Steven Ridley is ok

  1149. 1149 Nailed it! said at 7:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    But come on Bro we had a fake deal!

    Chip Kelly right now

  1150. 1150 anon said at 6:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he heard chip was racist

  1151. 1151 OldDuckMcDoc said at 7:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    To do with $$s.

  1152. 1152 Insomniac said at 7:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Not the end of the world. Tons of RBs that can produce in this years draft.

  1153. 1153 botto said at 7:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    too bad we wont have any picks

  1154. 1154 Insomniac said at 7:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    We can take one in the 5th!!!!!

  1155. 1155 Sean Stott said at 7:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good.

  1156. 1156 Ark87 said at 7:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Please god reconsider it, I hate paying anything measured in millions to a 32 year old running back.

  1157. 1157 Sean Stott said at 7:12 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    For what they were gonna pay him why not just get Demarco Murray. Made no sense.

  1158. 1158 oreofestar said at 7:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If Demarco signs for the money we gave Gore I’d take him

  1159. 1159 anon said at 7:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    b/c time tells that Demarco is going to fall all the way off next year.

  1160. 1160 Sean Stott said at 7:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Compared to Gore though?

  1161. 1161 botto said at 7:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    gore doesn’t fall off he keeps trucking

  1162. 1162 botto said at 7:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    so there must be some other running back retirement home he likes better?

    just throw the pads on deuce and call it a day

  1163. 1163 GermanEagle said at 7:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hahaha,

    And I did post earlier today that nothing s been official and that we might suffer another LeCharles Bentley fiasco. Shouldn’t have jinxed it…

    Let’s hope Maxwell won’t pull back either!

  1164. 1164 oreofestar said at 7:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Maxy better stay

  1165. 1165 Crus57 said at 7:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I mean, if we learned anything from that fiasco it’s that you don’t tease the Eagles then change your mind at the last minute, because karma will find you.
    Bentley tore his ACL on the first snap of training camp, then got a staph infection in the knee, pretty sure he never played another down.

  1166. 1166 anon said at 7:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that’s terrible

  1167. 1167 NinjaP said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s what you get for choosing cleveland.

  1168. 1168 Crus57 said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    In hindsight, karma was the wrong word; it would have been karma if all the reporters who were slavering over having the scoop of Bentley to the Eagles had torn their ACLs instead of him, since he just wanted to play in his home town.

  1169. 1169 Ark87 said at 7:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m still iffy on that Maxwell contract. We paid him for the absolute best case scenario. we paid him for a version of him that is even better than the guy with Earl Thomas watching his back, and the tutelage of the best DB guru in football. The Ringo of the legion of boom if you will. Not a fan of giving contracts that players have no chance of out performing. If someone wanted to pay him more I won’t be devastated to see him go.

    Not unhappy we signed him or anything, but this is the price we pay for not being to develop 1 single secondary player the old fashioned way.

  1170. 1170 anon said at 7:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    no choice, if you think he’s that much better than everyone else. we cleared a ton of cap for that purposes.

  1171. 1171 Nailed it! said at 7:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I love this offseason. Never change.

  1172. 1172 oreofestar said at 7:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Let’s assume Gore us gone, what do we do now?

  1173. 1173 anon said at 7:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ridley, Bradshaw, Spiller, Draft pick, i’d be looking at power backs that can push the pile a yd or two.

  1174. 1174 oreofestar said at 7:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Spiller still makes sense and he will probably cost less

  1175. 1175 GEAGLE said at 7:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i dunno… rather draft someone… assuming we even have a draft pick

  1176. 1176 oreofestar said at 7:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think we were going to draft someone regardless but I don’t want to throw the load at a mid round rookie so unless we’re taking Gurley/ Melvin in round 1 I’d like to sign a back

  1177. 1177 GEAGLE said at 7:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    so you want to cut polk before finally seeing him in a bigger role. NO Thanks… or carry 4 RB on the roster? No thanks

  1178. 1178 oreofestar said at 7:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Personally I’m not opposed to 4 rbs when 2 are major ST contributors and there isn’t a crazy ton of money tied up but I see what you’re saying

  1179. 1179 GEAGLE said at 7:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    out of curiousity… is there anything you arent OK with?

  1180. 1180 oreofestar said at 8:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ? A lot of stuff

  1181. 1181 anon said at 7:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i think we’ll carry 4, i think we get a late round draft guy or UDFA.

  1182. 1182 GEAGLE said at 8:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    why do you think that? i thought Tucker and some other RBs had potential these past few years at camp, and we never kept 4 before,.,
    ,.,.
    For us to keep 4 RBs, I assume that would mean we either can only keep 3 TE’s, or 4 OLBs(which would mean 3OLBs because Braman would be the 4th)

    I would assume that we rather keep 4TE’s instead of 4 RBs… dont really even see the need to carry a 4th back because id bet that if one of our backs got hurt, we could call up a back from our practice squad who could fill in fine til the end of the season (assuming the injured back goes on IR)

  1183. 1183 anon said at 8:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    4th could be UDFA. I think we keep 4 there instead of 4 TEs, iti’ll be one or the other (probably depending on ST acumen)

  1184. 1184 anon said at 7:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I like Knowson Moreno as well

  1185. 1185 Patrick said at 7:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I was so ready for us to draft either Moreno or Beanie Wells in the 1st that year, turned out we had to settle for some hack in the 2nd.

    I guess thats why i’m not the GM

  1186. 1186 Greg Richards said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    If he wasn’t coming off a knee injury, sure.

  1187. 1187 GEAGLE said at 7:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    lol could you imagine how bad shady would rip us?

  1188. 1188 anon said at 7:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    hahaha i totally forgot about that.

  1189. 1189 GEAGLE said at 7:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    you know if we signed Knowshon reporters will race to ask shady about it, who knows how bad he would clown us….. funny that shady was all pissed last week, nothing a few mil cant solve apparently, changing his tune quick…seemed happy go lucky about going to buffalo this weekend… i kind of want us to sign Knowshon just to see it

  1190. 1190 anon said at 7:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Especially when we go head ot head this year.

  1191. 1191 GEAGLE said at 7:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ohhh thats right!!!! that would be an awesome week of quotes

  1192. 1192 Patrick said at 7:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Someone either not 30+ or not costing us 5mil/year

  1193. 1193 ACViking said at 7:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Two things . . .

    Never close a deal with a person who has buyer’s remorse BEFORE signing the contract. Just asking for a problem.

    I wonder what Kelly’s thinking. And Roseman.

  1194. 1194 botto said at 7:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    true, we should pull the deal and say seeya.
    have fun playing with luck and maybe going to the afc championship game…

  1195. 1195 ACViking said at 7:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Would be the smart move.

    Belichick wouldn’t tolerate this kind of stuff — and he doesn’t want Gore anyway.

  1196. 1196 A_T_G said at 7:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wait, you said you were going to give us two things. Don’t leave us hanging.

  1197. 1197 ACViking said at 8:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I did . . . not especially artfully, though

  1198. 1198 GEAGLE said at 7:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Since our locker room has so much to process, and we have so much gelling to do after going partial rebuild, losing something like 8-9 starters and a couple Key Special team players so far, Im hoping we just go all the way, and cut the rest of the key respected veterans who we all know dont have much time left as Eagles…..at this point is it that big of a difference to our locker room if we also cut respected Vets like Demeco, Celek and possibly Mathis(unless we think he has 3 seasons left……cutting Demeco at this point probably makes no difference to the locker room… rather lose all the guys who chip already knows what be here much longer now, so that hopefully we can start building next offseason, instead of having another year like this with so much roster turnover…
    ..
    im a big believer in needing to build chemistry with your teammates, and getting 2-3 years of continuity in the same scheme before we ever stand a chance at winning anything… so if we already know for example that this will be Celeks last year, just do it now…

    at this point I dont even care about the individual players, I care that this coach get some damn players in here who he deems good enough to be left alone so they can have years to grow in our schemes and playing with the man lined up next to them.. id hate to see our locker room have an offseason like this, and next year have to get over losing Mufasa and Celek… just do it now. The demolition phase of the roster rebuild should have happened already by now.
    Make the rest of the tough cuts so our boys dont have to go thru this again next year losing important leaders like Meco/Celek
    ,,.
    for chip to stand a chance he needs to get a core in place who he can let grow together and gain a few years of experience in our scheme… playing a guy a year or two and then replacing him just keeps us the hamsterwheel…
    ..
    Growing in a scheme, building chemistry with team mates is crucial, which is why Im so happy to see us able to bring Sanchez back for two years… I dont think much of him as a starter, but I do recognize him probably as one of the top 3 backups in the NFL. Certainly didnt blow me away with his play and i dont think he will ever be good enough to be a starter, but I dont really believe its possible to see the best it can get with a player in his first year ever playing in an offense so different then any he has ever played in.. I dont think we can see Sanchez’s best his first year throwing to WR’s….. so Im pretty appreciative to not only have as good of a backup QB as we can every reasonably expect, but im really THRILLED that our backup is going to get to grow on the experience and chemistry he built last year as an Eagle.
    ..
    Hopefully soon we have players at key positons who chip wont be looking to replace, so we can give then 2-3 years to grow in our offense. because without experience in a scheme and a chemistry with your team mates, we wont ever win anything….. so if there are still a handful of players that chip doesnt view as long term pieces, i hope he finishes up and cuts the rest of them…Celek, Meco.. possibly Mathis(depending on how many years we think he has left in the tank, possibly Barkley depending of what chip thinks about him(tho im not sure if not seeing a 4th rd QB play in year 2 means that a coach doesnt think the QB has a future here….lets get all the major roster turnover done now so that hopefully we can spend the next offseason actually building towards something

  1199. 1199 oreofestar said at 7:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    We’ve lost 6 staters and half of them were ass

  1200. 1200 GEAGLE said at 7:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    nate, Cary, Bradley, Cole, Herremans, Shady, Mac,
    Casey Mathews, Brad smith, James casey… ST players..
    ..
    and if ST players are no big deal to you, you may want to think again when you have a coach who practically wasted his second free agency period signing ST players, and then DECIDED to go replacing 9 starters the following year… brilliant!!!!!!

  1201. 1201 Mitchell said at 7:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    None of the guys on that list has production that can’t be replaced.

  1202. 1202 GEAGLE said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Didnt we know that last year?

    and if ST players are no big deal to you, you may want to think again when you have a coach who practically wasted his second free agency period signing ST players, and then DECIDED to go replacing 9 starters the following year… brilliant!!!!!!


    but its chip kelly, who can do no wrong, who cares about wasting a year on ASS PLAYERS that everyone is so happy to replace… why werent half of them replaced last year so they could have a year under their belt in our schemes already?

  1203. 1203 Mitchell said at 7:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The top part of that list didn’t play special teams and while those players are very important, I can’t justify paying Casey that much money. The other can be replaced from a ST standpoint, yes.

  1204. 1204 oreofestar said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    OK 7 starters Nate, Cary, and Brad fall under my ass category πŸ˜› Cole is being replaced in house with Graham and then Mac, Herremans and McCoy I wasn’t far off

  1205. 1205 GEAGLE said at 7:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    did they not fall under your ass category last yeAR? or you just now realized they suck?

  1206. 1206 oreofestar said at 7:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nahy opinions haven’t changed much for last year except I didn’t hate Fletch as much I see what you are saying I just think you’re being a tad dramatic about it all. Mac and Shady were the only guys on that list giving any serious production and we resigned BG so Cole had to go regardless. Toddfaher I wish could have stayed but the other 3 I don’t care much for

  1207. 1207 GEAGLE said at 7:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    you added Malcolm Jenkins and Nolan Carrol last year, and ST signings… and the next year you replace 10 players who played a role last year? 4 of them couldnt be upgraded last year so they already have a year of continuity under their belt….i get it, no worries..

  1208. 1208 GEAGLE said at 7:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    and we probably arent done cutting or trading starters yet.. what will that number be when its all said and done?

  1209. 1209 oreofestar said at 7:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Guys like Fletch, Cary, Cole and Nate had to go anyway

  1210. 1210 anon said at 8:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    but can you be mad really about what we’ve done? I can’t see being so bad. D is way better, though would have rather kept cole than bg, but price is right.

    Offense, we lost MAC and Shady, there are plenty of UDFAs putting up numbers in this league, especially in a spread system. MAC was unfortunate. BAL is losing Torrey and probably forsett but you don’t see people going all crazy about them, SF losing their whole team.

    Skill players are replaceable.

  1211. 1211 A_T_G said at 7:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It is fascinating reading as you progress through the grief stages and develop your new narrative for your understanding of the team workings. We have seen denial and anger and are now up to bargaining, it would appear. Thank you for sharing this process.

  1212. 1212 Nailed it! said at 7:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICPLbgopEQ4&t=14

    Gonna miss Gore!

    GOAT

  1213. 1213 Jernst said at 7:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    hahaha

  1214. 1214 Greg Richards said at 7:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Part of me thinks the Gore “rethinking things” narrative is just a ruse by Eagles and Gore’s agent to say to Goodell “Nothing to investigate here. We didn’t reach an agreement early.”

  1215. 1215 Patrick said at 7:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think the Colts just opened their checkbook because they realize that they’re shit out of luck in regards to their weapons. T.Y Hilton and 2 TEs, that its. Lucks not gonna win with those.

  1216. 1216 oreofestar said at 7:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Says a lot about Murray’s market

  1217. 1217 anon said at 7:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    cowboys sabatoged him. Very shrewd on their part, short sighted on murry’s. I would have been injured and sat a game. just to keep my count reasonable.

  1218. 1218 SteveH said at 7:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    They shouldn’t have to worry about that though right? With the “legal” tampering period. Like every other FA in existence has their details out there, don’t know why this would be different.

  1219. 1219 Greg Richards said at 7:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    NFL sent out a memo today threatening investigations and penalties because reporters tweeted out leaked contract terms.

  1220. 1220 GEAGLE said at 7:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    is the player going to get punished? assumed it was just the team, and i assume its all bullshit anyway… who the hell is goodell punishing? no one… if he tried to punish us tell him to go F himself and worry about punishing the scum that deserves it, not a team like us who i assume is at the top of the NFL in fewest arrests…
    … Goodell isnt doing anything,…

  1221. 1221 Mr. Magee said at 8:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wishful thinking

  1222. 1222 GermanEagle said at 7:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anyone else read Dave S.’ awesomballz article about Philadelphia as a very attractive landing spot for free agents where everyone would love to play for the Eagles.

    Sadly enough it feels the exact opposite these days.

  1223. 1223 A_T_G said at 7:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So, I figured out the endgame for the draft posturing this season. I will share, but I just wanted to give a spoiler alert for those of you who want to enjoy things unfolding.

    First, most people are reading the signs correctly, the Eagles are looking to trade up. Mariota is just a smokescreen though. The part people are missing is how all the clues fit together. The Eagles let Maclin walk. The Eagles are clearing a lot of cap space. The Eagles are shopping Foles. The obvious outcome of all of these clues: we trade Foles to move up to 6 or so, and while everyone thinks Mariota, we draft Vic Beasley. Then, we package our 2nd and 3rd rounders in a trade with Carolina to bring in QB/WR Joe Webb. We immediately use the cap space to sign him long-term, before anyone figures out how good he is. Boom, first three picks solve OLB, WR, and QB.

  1224. 1224 Nailed it! said at 7:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    *grabs corn cob pipe* Come son sit on my lap and let me tell you the story of Chip Kelly, the greatest troll the NFL never saw coming.

  1225. 1225 botto said at 7:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I tell ya, Webb has one good game against us at a bad time and his legend lives on forever.

  1226. 1226 Mitchell said at 7:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    When Shah8 reads this, he is gonna jump through the roof.

  1227. 1227 Joe Webb said at 8:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Gonna take moar than that to land a talent like Joe Webb.

  1228. 1228 A Roy said at 9:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is that you, shah8?

  1229. 1229 GEAGLE said at 7:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    who is Mac’s agent and what other Eagle does he represent… heard he ruffled some feathers at novacare… Trying to find out if he gave us a chance to match, and so far answers i got point to No which is pretty interesting if true.,..
    ..
    has anyone seen reports that say they gave us a chance to match the KC deal?

  1230. 1230 anon said at 7:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we probably had a chance but we dif weren’t going to $11m. There had been MAC to KC rumors like a month ago.

  1231. 1231 botto said at 7:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah I sure thought it sounded like an obvious spot for him

  1232. 1232 GEAGLE said at 7:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    so you have seen a report that we got a chance to match it? im really curious to find out that small piece of info.
    ..
    if anyone comes across that report, please post it under one of my most recent posts…..thank you.

  1233. 1233 NinjaP said at 8:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Demeco and Matt Barkley are with Mac’s agent. Keeping demeco to cut him last minute as an F you to Condon. Oh malcolm jenkins too, his list isn’t updated that well.

  1234. 1234 GEAGLE said at 8:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I heard we would cut Demeco if we were able to sign Worlids…. what I dont know is if that goes the same for signing BG… Guess we will find out soon

  1235. 1235 anon said at 8:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    what does one have to do with the other?

  1236. 1236 GEAGLE said at 9:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    not sure… in the context of what I heard, we were allegedly really close from a monster free agent day yesterday, and i think he was trying to say that if we were also able to sign Franklin, Mac and McCourty, if we could get Worlids to sign, we would ave cut Meco for the money… but im waiting to get clarification..

    nice to be aggressive in free agency, its a welcome change from last year when we wasted enture free agency signing a starting safety, our dime corner, and ST players, while a year later we have like 10 players to replace… would have been nice to sign 4 starters last year, and only have to fill like 6 holes this year… Instead when its all said and done we probably will lose 9-13 players from last years roster

  1237. 1237 mksp said at 8:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “Heard”

    More nonsense. You post bullshit all year, are WRONG, time and time again, and still waltz around like you have a fucking CLUE about whats happening?

    I can’t believe Tommy allows your fucking bullshit on this board.

  1238. 1238 GEAGLE said at 7:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Did we get anyone else today besides BG?

  1239. 1239 GermanEagle said at 8:05 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes we got Frank Whore pulling back from his verbal commitment.

  1240. 1240 GEAGLE said at 8:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    meh… no big deal… rather pay a RB 400k anyway. I like some potential things about the gore trade but I also have some concerns…so either way, fine by me
    ..
    cant say there are any other free agent RB id love to have..
    ..
    did you see Zeke Elliot performing with the Ohio State cheerleaders at the basketball game the other day?

  1241. 1241 GermanEagle said at 8:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    nope, what did Zeke do?

  1242. 1242 GEAGLE said at 9:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    lol he was performing with the OSU Cheerleaders during the OSU/Wisconsin basketball game… funny kid, it def on youtube by now

  1243. 1243 Insomniac said at 10:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Zeke can hit too.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWkOaixWd7s

  1244. 1244 Mr. Magee said at 8:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Some guy by the name of Joel Corry (former agent, apparently… never heard of him) on NFL Radio questioning Philadelphia’s commitment to talent, and implying that is reason for Gore’s 2nd thoughts…

    Don’t know how credible he is, but is cause for concern IMO…
    I guess we’ll see if this is all about more $, or if there’s something else driving it. In any case, if he comes here, not a good way to ingratiate yourself with the organization and the city.

  1245. 1245 anon said at 8:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    what? we just super overpaid Maxwell, got him, got bg back, i mean what does he expect? got Kiko Alonso, who is a beast, i’m not sure what he’s saying.

    Are cowboys not committed to talent b/c they murray go?

  1246. 1246 Mr. Magee said at 8:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, I tend to think that a player will go to Team B for $1 more, but he seemed to think (imply, actually) that the jettisoning of skill position players (DJ, McCoy, Maclin) at more or less the peaks of their careers was raising eyebrows throughout the league. The way he did it was subtle, but the implication was there. Don’t know if he has any credibility or if it’s really a big deal or not. Mostly I think it’s just talk, but you don’t want that kind of press during this time of year..

  1247. 1247 anon said at 8:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s def. unorthodox, but it’s not like he drafted these guys. I do’nt know maybe i’m too busy drinking the defensive kool-aid

  1248. 1248 GEAGLE said at 8:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i heard something similar about Mac… I have an email I would like to post, but I want to see if i can get confirmation that they gave us a chance to match the final KC offer or not…… Because if they didnt, then it confirms some things that are worrisome..

  1249. 1249 anon said at 8:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    post that shit. Gore probably not interested in a rebuild.

  1250. 1250 GermanEagle said at 8:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes post it!

  1251. 1251 GEAGLE said at 10:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    send me your email on twitter, ill forward it to you, just dont post it

  1252. 1252 oreofestar said at 8:21 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t think the Eagles wanted to match but IDK for sure

  1253. 1253 Joe Minx said at 8:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    You didn’t by chance call in to Mike Missanelli’s show today did you? Heard some caller saying something like this.

  1254. 1254 GEAGLE said at 8:47 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    no…. but a few of my friends talk to the same person I do..wouldnt be surprised if one of them did

    was Meco being cut mentioned? which surprise me because I assumed Chip was classy enough to cut him before free agency if he wasnt going to be here, so that part surprised me..
    ..
    where Dwayne Bowe and Mike Wallace mentioned? which also would surprise me/.. not sure how a coach who preaches culture and sacraficing for the good of the team can be interested in Wallace;. and Bowe n Coop for me dont work… if we signed Bowe I would wanna kick Coops ass all the way to Jacksonville..
    ..

  1255. 1255 Joe Minx said at 8:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes, that’s exactly what was said. Ryans would be cut, thinking about Alonso as an OLB (that was before Graham) & they were looking at Wallace & Bowe. Guy also said Iupati was going to the Jets & of course he didn’t. I didn’t buy any of it.

  1256. 1256 GEAGLE said at 9:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    LOL WOW!!!!!!!! tell you the truth I found half of the stuff in the email odd…… but it does come from someone who comes thru alot, which is why i found the stuff in it so odd..
    ..
    tho some good to take from it… good to know we arent sitting on our hands letting Tobin and Barbre fight over the RG position… very pleased to know we would spend on a RG when we already have some nice coin invested in the OL….
    ..
    basically the eagles were pretty close to having a MONSTER day in FA…. interesting to see how they adjust now

    the alarming part is we might now have beef with two agents,,, better to have a good relationship with the gatekeepers to free agent talent

  1257. 1257 Mr. Magee said at 8:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah, just post what you got and let’s see if there’s any consensus

  1258. 1258 mksp said at 8:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Are you fucking kidding dude?

    Are you still, seriously pretending like you have a fucking source?

    You should be banned at this point.

  1259. 1259 Jason said at 8:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    GEAGLE, are your sources Strunk & White? Because after reading your posts, I would be highly suspicious.

  1260. 1260 Jernst said at 8:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The only reason we have an opening at starting RB for him is because we jettisoned our more talented star RB.

  1261. 1261 RC5000 said at 8:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Meh we aren’t a Sb champ team. not big news.

  1262. 1262 Joe Minx said at 8:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    TATE is comedy gold right now with this Gore story.

  1263. 1263 oreofestar said at 8:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Tate?

  1264. 1264 Joe Minx said at 8:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The EMB. Better that you didn’t know actually.

  1265. 1265 oreofestar said at 8:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Don’t do this to me lol

  1266. 1266 A_T_G said at 8:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Talk About The Eagles (TATE) is the original discussion forum for Eagles, located on the Eagles Message Board (EMB).

  1267. 1267 scratcherk said at 8:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    TATE is like its own country. Savage, illiterate country.

  1268. 1268 mksp said at 8:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    TATE has higher standards than this place at this point. Amazing.

  1269. 1269 Flyineagle45 said at 8:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So far I’m not digging 12% of chips plan

  1270. 1270 jpate said at 8:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    0 fs given here about gore to colts. Actually I’d be pretty disappointed if reports changed saying he is coming to Philly.

  1271. 1271 oreofestar said at 8:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    S is biggest need left get me Searcy since we failed to get McCourty

  1272. 1272 GEAGLE said at 8:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i wish… id gladly give the Browns a 2nd round pick to steal Tashuan Gipson.. gilchrist is supposed to be a good fit, but he has had some recent tough stretches in coverage

  1273. 1273 botto said at 8:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we have a NS runner in the bullpen already Tucker can do this.
    a healthy Polk is good too

  1274. 1274 Jernst said at 8:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Any interest in a rehabbing Jake Long as a stop gap RG?

  1275. 1275 A_T_G said at 8:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Does anyone remember the good ol’ days when 1000 comments was a noteworthy milestone?

  1276. 1276 oreofestar said at 8:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This is what the 4th straight 1k article?

  1277. 1277 anon said at 8:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    chip kelly getting the blogs paid. Doesnt even need to have press conferences.

  1278. 1278 D3FB said at 12:25 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    Shit 50 comments used to be a barn burner.

  1279. 1279 oreofestar said at 8:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Apparently Gore is gone…bye Felicia πŸ˜›

  1280. 1280 botto said at 8:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    maybe gore heard we might trade for kap and he said geez get me outta here already

  1281. 1281 anon said at 8:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah i think that’s probably it. If there’s QB uncertainty then a guy like that’s not going to be interested. AJ probably not coming ether.

  1282. 1282 botto said at 8:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    whats so uncertain about a Heisman winner and a sanchize

  1283. 1283 anon said at 8:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    that keap trade rumor might have had legs

  1284. 1284 botto said at 8:52 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    so what are we going to do with so many qb’s?

  1285. 1285 anon said at 8:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    wildcat triple option

  1286. 1286 Mr. Magee said at 8:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I don’t know, I’m not really feeling too pumped at this point in the offseason… I guess Chip doesn’t believe in the hypocratic oath – first, “do no harm.”
    In fact, he appears to be pretty scatterbrained at this point… And not all of it can be explained away as a “smoke screen.”

  1287. 1287 botto said at 8:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    it can be explained by cutting the fat though. big cap cuts and old timers
    and with maxwell we improved half of the back half of the D.

  1288. 1288 Mr. Magee said at 8:46 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    don’t think so… too simplistic, too many errors of omission

  1289. 1289 botto said at 8:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we only lost our best WR and best RB.
    its not like we going into the season with a rookie qb.

  1290. 1290 jpate said at 8:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No exaggeration…a team could not have a worse offseason

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/09/49ers-fb-bruce-miller-arrested-for-spousal-battery/

  1291. 1291 anon said at 8:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Brian Hartline,
    a native of Canton, Ohio, has agreed to terms with the Browns,
    according to his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. It’s a two-year, $6 million
    deal.

  1292. 1292 anon said at 8:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    hartline had 2 1000yd seasons in miami, not saying he’s good, just saying the market for these mid-teir wrs is decent.

  1293. 1293 KAJomo said at 8:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anyone have interest in Mike Wallace. He is a likely cut as the Dolphins attempt to fit Suh’s contract under the cap by tomorrow.

  1294. 1294 Patrick said at 8:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I dont think he’ll get cut, but if he does i would definitely be interested.

  1295. 1295 Alistair Middlemiss said at 1:26 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    He has to get cut – not worth the 12mil per year at all

  1296. 1296 GEAGLE said at 9:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    i dont,,eagles very well could, which I find pretty odd since i wouldnt expect chip to want to deal with selfish under achievers.. figure if Wallace is being considered, they might as well consider a donkey like Percy Harvin to……

  1297. 1297 anon said at 8:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Giants trying to get Ridley too, damn

  1298. 1298 Wilbert M. said at 8:50 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    This was on Bleedinggreennation.
    For what it’s worth, Chargers fans aren’t all that high on Gilchrist. Here’s a quick blurb on him from our friends over at Bolts from the Blue:

    “Marcus Gilchrist is another guy that’s limited and shouldn’t be playing starter snaps. It’s not versatile if you’re not good at both spots, and he isn’t. He’s not a sure tackler, not as aggressive as he should be, doesn’t cover like a corner and doesn’t hit like a safety. Another guy that can be replaced.”

  1299. 1299 GEAGLE said at 9:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    its because he is supposed to be a good safety in coverage but allegedly he has been struggling in coverage alot the last year or so…. fair warning, im just going off what I read… not a player who i have seen much of these past few years

  1300. 1300 oreofestar said at 8:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I’m pissed, optimistic, pessimistic, angry and understanding all at the same time I have no idea what we are doing or what we are going to do

  1301. 1301 GEAGLE said at 9:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    trouble in paradise? lol

  1302. 1302 oreofestar said at 9:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Huh? Lol I’m so confused and pissed but let’s see what happens I understand all these moves individually but together they burn

  1303. 1303 Greg Richards said at 9:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I really hope this isn’t precipated by not getting Gore. He was fine as a 1 or 2 year fit to groom a rookie and you hope that he continues how he’s played the past couple of years but you run the risk of anyone that age with that many carries falling off a cliff.

    As far as Maclin goes, for $11M a year, good luck but I’ll go another direction.

    McCourty? Can’t force guys to sign with you. We offered him more than Pats. He wanted to stay where he’s been last 4 years. Good for him.

    Regardless, most of all, it’s just football. It’s entertainment, a release from real life. I hope when they kill off someone on Game of Thrones, it doesn’t cause you this much stress.

  1304. 1304 Joe Minx said at 9:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wow. An actual rational. level-headed take on things so far. The way TATE says it we’re a laughingstock descending into complete mismanagement with an egomaniacal dope at the controls.

  1305. 1305 Greg Richards said at 9:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Howie’s master plan in place. He’ll reassume the throne in a year!

  1306. 1306 oreofestar said at 9:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Nothing to do with Gore and I agree with every last thing you said I’m just confused, emotion kicked in for me today losing so many of my favorite players in a short time. Individually the moves are fine but together they hurt and the media completely crapping on us doesn’t make it better but like I said I’m still optimistic

  1307. 1307 Ark87 said at 10:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Your uncle who is good with cars just gutted your favorite car and thew out half the original parts. You loved that car, but your uncle is kinda awesome and promised to put it back together better than ever. You believe he’ll do his best to put it back together, but you’re skeptical he can pull it off looking at the empty shell of your beloved car. You make it clear to him: “fix this or you’re dead to me!”

  1308. 1308 oreofestar said at 10:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Beautiful :’)

  1309. 1309 D3FB said at 12:23 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    That felt eerily similar to this commercial:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdDQOTutTH4

  1310. 1310 Ark87 said at 9:14 AM on March 10th, 2015:

    I’m pretty sure you mean *awesomely* similar

  1311. 1311 botto said at 8:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    what would fans prefer: a nice trade up for MM or a trade for Colin Kap?

  1312. 1312 CrackSammich said at 8:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    no.

  1313. 1313 anon said at 8:56 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    going through all this shit i don’t want Keap, get the guy you think is the guy.

  1314. 1314 botto said at 8:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I agree get the dude

  1315. 1315 Patrick said at 8:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Mariota and its not even close, i’m not touching that Kaep contract.

  1316. 1316 botto said at 8:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    ok yeah the contract.
    but without the contract?

  1317. 1317 oreofestar said at 8:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Stoll Mariota

  1318. 1318 Patrick said at 9:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Probably still Mariota, younger and he is Chips guy. Kaep proved he is an NFL player, but also that he has some huge weaknesses that matches very poorly with Chip(bad decisions and turnover prone). I’ll take the guy who hasn’t proven that he is NFL worthy, but hasn’t had the chance yet.

  1319. 1319 Insomniac said at 9:22 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    stop lalalala none of them are happening

  1320. 1320 Javi Echie said at 9:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Its a rhetorical question,at least i hope.

  1321. 1321 GEAGLE said at 9:23 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    id probably prefer Hepititus C

  1322. 1322 mksp said at 8:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So apparently you can be a total douchebag to everyone here, repeatedly post bullshit and pretend like you have sources, and still come on here and continue to spam the board as long as you want.

    This board is a dumpster fire and nobody fucking cares

  1323. 1323 botto said at 8:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    should we make a trade?

  1324. 1324 BC1968 said at 9:07 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s laughable at this point dude. You, among many have called this out, the site is good when you weed out the trash.

  1325. 1325 mksp said at 9:13 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It just sucks. Its like, this place is a really great bar, but it lets this one drunk, loud dude ruin it for everyone every night, and nobody else understands why management puts up with that guy.

    But whatever, it’s not like Tommy’s traffic is hurting. It just fucking sucks here now. Done with it, don’t care anymore. Not my problem. I love the Eagles, more than I’d care to admit, but this place isn’t worth it anymore.

    “Don’t argue with an idiot, he’ll drag you down to his level and then beat you with experience” <—- the Iggles Blitz Experience.

  1326. 1326 BC1968 said at 9:18 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Everything’s great, you can say anything here, say you have sources for all I care, say anything and everything, but when you degrade and insult people for their opinion, that’s low. Even for example if said person was right all the time, which isn’t the case, there is no need to insult someone for having an opinion. I mean sometimes it happens in heated moments, passion for the team is understandable and sometimes shit happens, but there’s a trend of one person doing it constantly and I understand exactly why you feel the way you do.

  1327. 1327 Guest said at 9:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wait do you have money or anything invested in this blog or are you part owner? No you’re not so just shut the fuck up and dont read then. You seem obsessed with this one particular person. Its a blog and people can say whatever the hell they want whether is makes sense or doesnt.

  1328. 1328 mksp said at 9:20 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Hey man, if you want to wallow in this shit, be my guest.

  1329. 1329 BC1968 said at 9:39 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “people can say whatever the hell they want whether is makes sense or doesnt.”

  1330. 1330 BreakinAnklez said at 9:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Or most people just ignore it. You are just as small and petty taking pot shots every chance you get. We ALL know you aren’t a fan, get over it.

  1331. 1331 BlindChow said at 9:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Are you on Birds 24/7? They actually take out the trash over there.

  1332. 1332 mksp said at 9:54 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah, rarely comment though. Wish AC + D3FB and others posted there, but I understand the appeal here. You guys clearly have more intestinal fortitude for stupidity and dishonesty than I do.

  1333. 1333 anon said at 9:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    football knowledge way better here, i’m a convert.

  1334. 1334 Flyin said at 9:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    agree

    edit: except for when I post.

  1335. 1335 oreofestar said at 10:19 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It’s crazier here for sure, I

  1336. 1336 BC1968 said at 9:55 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Call it comic relief and it makes for better reading.

  1337. 1337 Flyin said at 9:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No mention of “Flyin”? Not even sure if I’m an other. You suck!

  1338. 1338 Bert's Bells said at 10:14 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Inside sources say the kid is on the spectrum and learning disabled. Have some pity.

  1339. 1339 Weapon Y said at 9:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anyone else on board with Justin Forsett and Andre Johnson?

  1340. 1340 anon said at 9:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    AJ not forsett, he’s to small, but did run well last year.

  1341. 1341 Weapon Y said at 9:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Both of them as stop gaps. Huff to be Andre’s successor. Rookie RB to be Forsett’s.

  1342. 1342 oreofestar said at 9:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    No on Forsett and Andre will go to a real contender

  1343. 1343 anon said at 9:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    sad but true

  1344. 1344 GEAGLE said at 9:03 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Been such a big Andre fan for years… but guys like him and gore might be dead by december playing and practicing at our tempo
    ..
    though it looks like Chip doesnt discriminate against the ederly.. seems like he is down to sign more 30 year olds since pre banner

  1345. 1345 anon said at 9:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    maybe that’s why gore was like eh….

  1346. 1346 Insomniac said at 9:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Or maybe he realized there’s a chance that buttfumble is going to hand him the ball all year?

  1347. 1347 anon said at 9:26 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Is that worse than what he’s been dealing with?

  1348. 1348 Insomniac said at 9:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes?

  1349. 1349 GEAGLE said at 9:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    It could be,.,… who is the team he is leaving us for? the colts? if so contending with luck probably played a role… i would assume a guy like Gore would rather see Nick as the QB instead of sanchez or a rookie

  1350. 1350 anon said at 9:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yeah left for colts, which is fine

  1351. 1351 oreofestar said at 9:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Going to be honest I’d leave to the Colts too and they wouldn’t have to pay me more money for.me to bolt. With the way Chip has been treating players this isn’t a super attractive FA destination and I hope that changes

  1352. 1352 anon said at 9:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    we’ll see next year when players are all of his choosing. Hopefully we’ll have won a playoff game.

  1353. 1353 oreofestar said at 9:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can we win a playoff game this year?

  1354. 1354 anon said at 9:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yes if we can manage to get all the other oregon players.

  1355. 1355 Ark87 said at 10:02 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    So the question really is “How many games can the 2012 Ducks win 3 years later?”

  1356. 1356 anon said at 10:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    yes!

  1357. 1357 Ark87 said at 9:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    He’s paying people good money for people to come here, great money even, just not paying anyone to stay here. In every other context this happens on a bad franchises, praying we are the exception to the rule.

  1358. 1358 anon said at 10:10 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    can’ blame him for wanting to get his guys, might not be who we like. I wasn’t the only frustrated person watching McCoy run in this system.

  1359. 1359 peteike said at 9:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Would love foresett, he had a solid year. I’d even be happy with Murray who everyone seems down on, don’t get that

  1360. 1360 GermanEagle said at 9:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Forsett was my favourite target even before Shady got traded.

  1361. 1361 peteike said at 9:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Prefer over gore, easy

  1362. 1362 anon said at 9:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    JT getting $9m/yr with Jags

  1363. 1363 oreofestar said at 9:25 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Good for him and the Jags

  1364. 1364 Insomniac said at 9:27 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Lets trade Maehl for Blackmon now since they’re so stacked at WR!!

    sigh..our WRs suck

  1365. 1365 GEAGLE said at 9:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    where did the report come from that said the eagles are higher on Josh Huff then they are Jordan?

  1366. 1366 Joe Minx said at 9:34 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Kempski

  1367. 1367 oreofestar said at 9:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yep

  1368. 1368 GEAGLE said at 9:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    oh ok.. thanks… Im pretty delirious… been awake for almost two straight days, drained from travel and im in a time zone 6 hours ahead of Philly so basically I have a bunch of info from the past two days jumbled up in my head…. dont remember the last time there was a day with so much NFL news, with me being so out of the loop…. need to get some damn sleep but tomorrow is another damn travel day so Im trying to get caught up

  1369. 1369 GermanEagle said at 9:28 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Wait, has he signed yet?! Lol

  1370. 1370 GEAGLE said at 9:29 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    thats crazy… dude always gets banged up

  1371. 1371 anon said at 9:33 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    he should buy peyton a….well Peyton has everything but Peyton def hooked him up.

  1372. 1372 peteike said at 9:35 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Ya but dudes a beast w speed and hands for his size. Lost career in jville by way of mjd, ashame

  1373. 1373 Insomniac said at 9:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Buy Peyon a chicken parm sandwich?

  1374. 1374 GEAGLE said at 9:44 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    man, he owes peyton is first born son for all the money peyton made him…. doesnt he have chronic ankle problems or something with his legs.. if he is healthy, he can be a nice Target for Bortles…

    shame I dont trust Cecil Shorts injuries, because the man has always held his own on a terrible Jags team being sorrounded by crap. be really curious to see what he looks like in our offense, but cant sign too many injury questions…

  1375. 1375 anon said at 9:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s why i’m not super concerned about MAC. Didn’t have great RAC this year, could get open but i think any decent route runner could get open in this system, also not big enough for red zone.

  1376. 1376 Greg Richards said at 9:36 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Frank Gore reported as signing with Eagles. Most of Eaglesville – too old, washed up.

    Frank Gore not going to Eagles. Same people: What is Chip doing? Eagles in disarray.

  1377. 1377 oreofestar said at 9:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    All I think is that it says something about how attractive we are I think

  1378. 1378 Greg Richards said at 9:40 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think it says more about how he’d be splitting carries here and the Colts have Dan Herron and some guy with a name I can’t spell(Zoran Hefpon or something like that)

  1379. 1379 oreofestar said at 9:42 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Can’t blame him for going to a contender especially if he got more $$$

  1380. 1380 Greg Richards said at 9:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I haven’t seen anything saying what the Colts will give him or it’s as much money as we were offering. The other thing that you guys need to remember is just because the media is saying we are pursuing a player or that the Eagles have agreed to terms with a player it does not mean that it’s true. Agents play the leverage game. Leaked reports that Gore was going to the Eagles could have been used to get Indy to increase their offer. The Eagles aren’t allowed to say anything about an agreement. So then if all of a sudden the player is going elsewhere, it’s spun negatively against the Eagles when they quite possibly either had no interest in the first place or had just touched base with the player’s agent.

  1381. 1381 oreofestar said at 9:48 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Yeah but it’s weird they said Gore was crying and they had all many details and stuff

  1382. 1382 anon said at 9:53 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    it’s weird a grown man would be crying over which team is going to pay him $5+m a year.

  1383. 1383 Insomniac said at 9:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    At least Spiller wants to come here..right?

  1384. 1384 GENETiC-FREAK said at 9:41 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The all business cap saving, culture n scheme fit think making alot of players on the roster or potential players wanting to come here puts questions in their mind.. Scheme over talent making players weary

  1385. 1385 GEAGLE said at 10:04 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    whats philly like today? happy about yesterday or pissed?

  1386. 1386 Greg Richards said at 10:06 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Isn’t Philly always pissed?

  1387. 1387 ICDogg said at 9:37 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    The Eagles just offered me a contract because I'm white— Eric Stangel (@EricStangel) March 10, 2015

  1388. 1388 oreofestar said at 9:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Tyron Smith restructured

  1389. 1389 oreofestar said at 9:49 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Funny yesterday we thought we had Maxwell, Gore,Mac and Mark in the bag maybe with McCourty too oh how quickly things change at least we got Maxwell…best part of the off season so far IMO

  1390. 1390 GENETiC-FREAK said at 9:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    1 outa of 5 not bad lol

  1391. 1391 oreofestar said at 10:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    2, we got Mark back too πŸ™‚

  1392. 1392 scratcherk said at 9:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Report: #Titans to have private workout with Marcus Mariota http://t.co/97vWTrKcbi pic.twitter.com/XNjTab2rBq— TitansMCM (@TitansMCM) March 10, 2015

    Lay off TN!

  1393. 1393 scratcherk said at 9:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I think i screwed that up..

  1394. 1394 Greg Richards said at 9:58 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    In other words: Increase your trade offer Eagles or we just may take Mariota ourselves.

  1395. 1395 anon said at 10:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s in response to STL’s revised Foles offer.

  1396. 1396 oreofestar said at 10:01 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Due diligence

  1397. 1397 Greg Richards said at 10:08 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Anonymous twitter dude with no credibility says Eagles signing Michael Crabtree and Ryan Matthews.

    https://twitter.com/jordanrigberg

  1398. 1398 anon said at 10:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I can make myself get into that. But Ryan matthews, really?

  1399. 1399 oreofestar said at 10:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    I wouldn’t trust a dude with 19 followers

  1400. 1400 Greg Richards said at 10:15 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Matthews has played well when he hasn’t gotten hurt. Fumbles too much for my liking.

  1401. 1401 anon said at 10:16 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    *when hasn’t he been hurt? I’m tempted every year in fantasy but i don’t do it, b/c he spends half the year on the bench.

  1402. 1402 scratcherk said at 10:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    frank gore in philly pic.twitter.com/E3oogOv1Vm— Jordan Heck (@JordanHeckFF)

  1403. 1403 ICDogg said at 10:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Frank Gore has more rushing yards as an Eagle than Matt Barkley (-2), Terrell Owens (-3), Freddie Mitchell (-4) and Mike Quick (-5).— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) March 9, 2015

  1404. 1404 Iskar36 said at 10:48 AM on October 13th, 2015:

    Combined.

  1405. 1405 ICDogg said at 10:24 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    “Philadelphia? Go Eagles”. -Just heard on Better Call Saul

  1406. 1406 BC1968 said at 10:59 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Watching the 11 pm one, thanks for reminding me, glad they play them back to back.

  1407. 1407 anon said at 10:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    They’re reporting Virgil Green to Broncos or Bears. This was the one guy I thought chip the ripper would want.

  1408. 1408 oreofestar said at 10:31 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Iupati signs with rival, Bowman fails physical, Gore leaving, Willis and Smith retiring, Bruce Miller arrested, Crab prolly gone just an awful day to be a niners fan,

  1409. 1409 ICDogg said at 10:32 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/tweet_video/B_slN51WEAEXKHU.mp4

  1410. 1410 oreofestar said at 10:38 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    Someone beat you

  1411. 1411 Insomniac said at 11:00 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    What do we actually know about Chip’s ideal RB? He apparently wanted Spiller and traded for Sproles. He had a ton of scatbacks and a few power runners at Oregon. They interviewed TJ Yeldon who is a mix of both. Does he want something in between like maybe a LeVeon Bell?

  1412. 1412 Mr. Magee said at 11:09 PM on March 9th, 2015:

    That’s the problem, he doesn’t know what he wants – see 2015 offseason

  1413. 1413 GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on March 11th, 2015:

    Philly is having the MM funeral after chip shut down all the Morons convinced chip was a running QB and that he was dumb enough to Martha’s our draft for the kid. Welcome to the Bradford era!!!

  1414. 1414 GEAGLE said at 2:32 PM on March 11th, 2015:

    No idea wtf is on this coaches mind. We have a bum like Ryan Mathews a 3ye deal yet we are still trying to sign Demarco Murray? Wtf is going on