Sanchez In, Maclin Out

Posted: March 8th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 401 Comments »

Ugh.

The Eagles' wild ride will continue: Jeremy Maclin plans to reunite with Andy Reid in Kansas City once free agent market opens Tuesday.
— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) March 9, 2015

Mark Sanchez back to the Eagles on a 2-year deal worth $9m with $5.5m guaranteed, per source.
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) March 8, 2015

Losing Maclin hurts. I’m glad the Eagles had the discipline not to just hand him a blank check, but I do hate to see him go. Mac hasn’t always been my favorite player, but he just had a career year and playing for Chip Kelly seemed to bring out the best in him.

There aren’t any star receivers to sign to replace him, but there are going to be some interesting options. We’ll get into that later.

Sanchez is a Chip Kelly favorite. And the team needed a backup QB. I’ll write a longer post on exactly what the move means.

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No updates on any other CBs. There is this on McCourty.

Report: 'Pretty good bet' Devin McCourty returns to Patriots http://t.co/LJ6dfghmJY
— Geoff Mosher (@GeoffMosherCSN) March 9, 2015

401 Comments on “Sanchez In, Maclin Out”

1 ICDogg said at 9:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Crazy day.
2 oreofestar said at 9:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I have no clue what’s going on
3 OregonDucker said at 9:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You’re not supposed to oreofestar. None of us know. This is Chip.
4 eagleyankfan said at 9:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
First thing chip did when he came was grab that TE….not all of his moves are rosy ……
5 bdbd20 said at 9:46 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No playoff wins since January 2009. Let the man work his plan.
6 xeynon said at 11:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
What has Chip Kelly done to earn blind faith in his plan, pray tell?
7 suthrneagle said at 11:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
How about, he`s done pretty well with other people“s players. Now he`s putting together his own team. Let`s watch him put one together, work on it through the summer and show us what he`s done beginning Sept..
8 xeynon said at 12:07 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I will give him the season before making any definitive judgments.
But a strategy of bringing in guys who are old (Gore), are leaving an elite surrounding cast and being projected into a new system (Maxwell) or both has been tried before, and it fails more often than not. It failed in Philly as recently as 2011. It is doubly questionable when coupled with gutting the team of all its best current players as is happening now, and/or trading a huge amount of resources to acquire one player in the draft as it is rumored may happen with Mariota. It’s too early to declare this offseason a disaster, yes. But questioning/criticism is totally within reason given that Chip is pursuing a number of strategies that have really bad track records.
9 OregonSucks said at 12:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:
You’re not allowed to question chip even though he hasnt won anything in college or the pros and will probably make us the bengals of the 90’s.
10 Joe Minx said at 12:24 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Gee, you’re not biased at all.
11 OregonSucks said at 10:48 PM on March 10th, 2015:
Nope, just a Visionary.
12 ICDogg said at 9:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
fwiw:
Latest I'm hearing: Giants still talking to Brandon Graham, Dan Williams for DL. Running third behind Pats, Eagles on McCourty.— Dan Graziano (@DanGrazianoESPN) March 9, 2015
13 oreofestar said at 9:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Good no Mac so might as well raise McCourty offer a bit
14 Patrick said at 9:30 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So we’ll grossly overpay our backup QB, but not our, with a wide margin, best wide receiver. It’ll be interesting to see what Mac got. Anything less than 11, I would have matche it.
15 Ben Hert said at 8:34 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Think its fair to overpay considering this team hasn’t had a QB start a 16 game season since 2009.
16 GermanEagle said at 9:30 PM on March 8th, 2015:
F Mac. If he had the loyalty like Cobb he would be stayed. That being said I think he’s replaceable. Nothing special. Provided we will have some draft picks to get a replacement..
17 Dan said at 7:17 AM on March 9th, 2015:
He went to the coach who drafted him, seems like loyalty to me. And stop crying, if a job came up that paid you 10 to 20% closer to where you live with a boss you liked you would make the jump as well. Its a business and a job for him, for you its entertainment that you spend a few hours on the weekend watching. He owes you no loyalty. He is a good player, its a shame he is gone, but be a grown up about it.
18 RobNE said at 9:30 PM on March 8th, 2015:
We hear about FA “signings” before the market really opens on Tuesday, so when would we hear about MM if there was a deal in place? Not a draft day deal, obv.
I mean, why can’t we hear about that now if it’s in place, if we can hear Maclin is going to KC etc.
19 CampDracula said at 10:29 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Because if a deal exists, it would be contingent upon MM being there (e.g. trade with Jets at 6 if MM is there). And if The Eagles broadcasted their intentions, another team could swoop in ahead of them.
If a trade happens, it will be on draft day.
20 Dan in Philly said at 9:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Second straight year a WR coming off a career year in Kelly’s offense being let go. Maybe it’s him?
21 James said at 9:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
One was free will other one, not so much
22 James said at 9:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Starting WR’s Cooper, Matthews, Huff
RB’s Gore, Sproles, Polk.
This is a scary sight if Gore/Sproles or Matthews have to sit out games.
They have to be considering injuries across this front; and they cant draft quality replacements for these positions if they dont have draft picks if they move up for MM…
23 oreofestar said at 9:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah Chip.isn’t dumb there has to be something in place
24 bdbd20 said at 9:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Don’t forget about the TE’s. Kempski mentioned Jordan Cameron as a possible target.
25 Patrick said at 9:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Its an elaborate ruse from Chip, he just really want to obtain his goal of all his outside WR really being TEs, then having Matthews and Huff work the slot and Celek lining up as the real TE.
26 daveH said at 10:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
maybe we go Hundly QB and even find REGGIE WAYNE ??
27 Dominik said at 9:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I think Chip will find a WR. Could be a veteran, with Matthews and Huff as young players already in place.
It all depends on Mariota or not. If we have draft picks, Chip can draft one or even two WR, let them learn for a year with the veteran in place. No biggie, imho. Chip will get his offense moving, especially if the O-Line and QB is healthy.
28 mksp said at 9:35 PM on March 8th, 2015:
nevermind / fake account!
29 James said at 9:38 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I wonder if he would have stayed if we could have somehow traded Cooper
30 Patrick said at 9:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
That is not Macs twitter, he did not tweet this. https://twitter.com/jmac_18
People really need to stop falling for those fake accounts
31 mksp said at 9:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I know, it got retweeted by a real account, that’s why I fell for it.
32 Patrick said at 9:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
If you’re a real news account you really, really, really shouldn’t fall for it.
Sorry my man, its easy to see why people get misled, when the reporters can’t fucking do their job right.
33 mksp said at 9:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah, exactly.
This was this mea culpa:
https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/574745345311244288
34 Dominik said at 9:35 PM on March 8th, 2015:
And, I like to repeat: I want NUMBERS on Maclin. If he signs for 9.5m in KC, I don’t know what is going on. If he signs for 11, Chip made exactly the right call.
35 bdbd20 said at 9:37 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah. Can’t blame him for taking the big money. I did love Mac and was rooting for him last year. Seems like a really good guy.
I trust Chip here. Matthews, Huff, Cooper, and rookie may very well put up better overall numbers next season.
36 A_T_G said at 9:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It seems like an odd choice by Maclin, though. He has direct history with both coaches, and had his best year with Chip, yet he is returning to Andy?
Then again, DeSean and now Mac might just prove how much Andy will overpay for WRs.
37 oreofestar said at 9:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Its gotta be money
38 James said at 9:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Money with a family incentive I guess.
39 Mitchell said at 9:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Feeling super salty about Riley Pooper outlasting Jackson and Maclin though.
40 James said at 9:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Especially when Foles is not starting he is pure shit.
41 bdbd20 said at 9:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Not sure where his head is, but I wonder if Chip would be interested in a physical freak like Kenny Britt?
42 A_T_G said at 9:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Aren’t all of Britt’s troubles centered around his circle of friends, located just across the Deleware river?
43 cliff h-MOAR white goons said at 9:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
any of them play olb?
44 cliff h-MOAR white goons said at 9:46 PM on March 8th, 2015:
sign britt, cox, culliver and hardy. F culture!
45 eagleyankfan said at 9:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Pass
46 oreofestar said at 9:41 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Get me Evans and I’ll forget Mac lol
47 James said at 9:41 PM on March 8th, 2015:
2 Evan Mathis’ would be amazing.
48 Iskar36 said at 9:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So you are happy we didn’t over pay for Maclin, a player we know can be productive on this offense, but at the same time are happy we DID overpay for Maxwell, a good CB that we payed as a great CB, who we just are assuming will come right in and be a quality player? This is exactly what we talk about avoiding every offseason.
I’d love to have seen what the conversation about this would have been had the Cowboys/Redskins/Giants done the same thing.
49 holeplug said at 10:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Chip has more faith in himself then he does Billy Davis
50 Jarock said at 10:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Smidge over 10mil a season for Maxwell is a lot, but not Revis/Sherman/Peterson money. 15mil plus a season would be drastically overpaying. Maxwell is an above average corner who’s till improving and held up well despite being the primary target in Seattle. He undeniably benefitted from the exceptional safety play there and barring McCourty signing with us will have to adjust. I expect he’ll be fine. I’d have paid Maclin 10mil a year and been happy but anything more than that would have been way overpaying. Maclin’s a solid 2, but he’s not a game changer. Sucks to lose him, but the Eagles will survive.
51 P_P_K said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Your point is reasonable. For a coach only in the NFL for two years, he’s certainly not afraid to make big moves. Some guys genuflect before everything Chip does but that’s probably because we so badly want to believe the guy will bring success to the Eagles. At this point, I’m reserving judgement on Chip, while hoping he really is the smartest guy in the room.
52 All Things Bad@ss said at 1:57 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I think much of the adulation for the Maxwell agreement was pre-Maclin-to-KC news. If they had agreed w/ Mac as well, a good portion of fanbase would’ve been satisfied. If they agreed w/ Mac AND McCourty on top of Maxwell and Gore, many would’ve jumped for joy, while a portion would’ve been lamenting it as DT pt2. There’s never pleasing everyone … only sterling silver Lombardi can do that.
53 SuPaFrO said at 9:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
What’s your guys wr list for the draft? Starting available from the 2nd round? If you know we have a pic that high. Or should i just ask about after 5 round?
54 D3FB said at 10:09 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’m going to try to put my positional rankings for WR and RB together with blurbs on all the guys in the next few days.
55 SuPaFrO said at 11:32 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Oh sweet. Gratzi
56 eagleyankfan said at 9:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Does the Sanches n Gore signings include AARP cards?
57 Javi Echie said at 9:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Didnt know you can get an aarp card being under 30 years old.
58 eagleyankfan said at 9:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Old horse…can’t get one under 40 either….
59 P_P_K said at 10:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I just wrote something similar above. I guess I’m just the second wittiest guy on this board.
60 mksp said at 9:46 PM on March 8th, 2015:
D3FB:
Saw your tweet advocating for Kenny Bell.
I like everything about him, except he seems to fight the ball a lot. Tons of double catches. Not on Sammie Coates’ level, but cause for concern to me.
You think he can get better here?
61 D3FB said at 10:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I mean he’s never going to have amazing hands but he’s very similar to Jordan Matthews in that if he doesn’t make it in the league, it won’t be because a lack of effort.
62 Mitchell said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’m gonna laugh if Coates becomes an Eagle because of all the hate you put on him.
63 D3FB said at 10:21 PM on March 8th, 2015:
With what second round pick?
64 Mitchell said at 10:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
With all that Chip has done so far, do you really think, if he didn’t like Sammie, he wouldn’t get him somehow? lol
65 Jack Burden said at 9:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Losing Maclin just makes it even less likely that Chip would trade all his picks in the draft (and next year’s and the year after) for Mariota. Instead they will make a few free agent signings and look to build depth at al their other positions of need through the draft. Shocking, I know.
66 eagleyankfan said at 9:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
OD….can’t go into the season with Sanches/MM/Barkley….can they?
67 RobNE said at 9:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Why not?
68 eagleyankfan said at 9:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
2-14 season….if they get lucky…
69 RobNE said at 9:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’ll take that bet. U crazy.
70 eagleyankfan said at 10:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Lol…a rookie qb won’t win…and Sanches can’t stop throwing ints …. Ok…no better than 4 wins?
71 bdbd20 said at 9:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Agreed. Mike McMahon sucks.
72 A_T_G said at 9:54 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Actually, that sounds ideal for bringing along an anointed rookie.
73 eagleyankfan said at 9:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It does…but you don’t sign gore knowing you not winning for a few years….might as well as draft a rookie rb n play him….
74 A_T_G said at 10:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Why not win this year? How long did it take Wilson or Kap to start winning? Luck? RGIII?
Besides, Gore can be his grizzled sergeant in the huddle – the guy that knows what it takes to be the commander but isn’t out for the glory for himself.
75 eagleyankfan said at 10:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Gore doesn’t know chips system yet…he might not make it past 1st ota…too many new faces…new qb..rb…wr…I don’t know the number but when was the last time a team lost/changed 3 impact players n won?
76 D3FB said at 10:06 PM on March 8th, 2015:
With his guaranteed $ Gore is making the team this year.
77 eagleyankfan said at 10:07 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He’s new to the Birds system…making it threw ota meant he’ll pass out…lol
78 D3FB said at 10:16 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He’s a running back. It’s inside zone and outside zone. Not earth shattering stuff.
79 eagleyankfan said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
True…
80 anon said at 10:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
there’s a great stat from espn about gore’s efficiency running from shotgun, still averaging 5.0ypc, also great rz efficency.
81 P_P_K said at 10:10 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Gore and Sproles compliment each other well. It should be an exciting backfield.
And they are both eligible for AARP discounts.
82 eagleyankfan said at 10:12 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Lmao…true…don’t get me wrong…I love gore…I think he’s a baller….it’s just a young mans game…
83 OregonDucker said at 9:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Chip will evaluate during training camp. If MM can pick up NFL disguised blitzes and coverages, then he will start. If not Sanchez will.
Do not underestimate MM’s ability to quickly learn. He is a film junkie who listens to what his mentors are trying to teach him. He is not normal.
84 Patrick said at 9:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Wait, are we just casually gonna assume that Marcus Mariota will end up an Eagle?
85 OregonDucker said at 9:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No.
86 RobNE said at 10:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Are u having doubts?
87 OregonDucker said at 10:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
From what I hear tonight, there is not ink on paper. I still think it will get done. But the NFL is crazy on contracts. Nothing is certain yet.
88 eagleyankfan said at 9:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It’s a…for instance….
89 daveH said at 10:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
what if we DO get mariotta and he HOLDS OUT FOR MEGA MOOLA.. duh of course he would !!! and we get oursevlves painfully sliced coming and going
90 D3FB said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You are aware he can’t do that correct?
91 daveH said at 8:59 AM on March 9th, 2015:
(was pretty sure and wondering that as I was typing ..but I kept going
..
thanks for being nice to me)
92 eagleyankfan said at 9:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No matter what…I don’t want Sanches playing…I’d rather a rookie take lumps
93 Jernst said at 10:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So are we definitely going all in for MM or am I going to wake up in May and realize that all Chip has done is get rid of every talented player on the roster he inherited and stick with Foles at QB?
94 P_P_K said at 10:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The answer to that might not even be in Chip’s hands. No way it’s going to be easy to move up in the draft and get his boy.
95 xeynon said at 11:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Rookie QBs do not win in the NFL. Period. Even the smartest and most successful ones usually take a season or two before they have any notable success. Andrew Luck didn’t win in the playoffs in his rookie season, and only got there because the division he was playing in sucks. I like Mariota as a prospect but he is not in Andrew Luck’s class. If Kelly thinks he can make a Super Bowl run next season with a stripped down offense headlined by Marcus Mariota, he is delusional.
96 Avery Greene said at 9:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The biggest question until Thursday April 30th is whether Chip is going after Mariota.
97 ICDogg said at 10:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Chip Kelly just traded Hamels
98 A_T_G said at 10:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Hopefully he got a guard that can hit to the opposite field.
99 James said at 10:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Sam Hinkie signs Maclin off waivers
100 D3FB said at 10:03 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Can Hinkie transfer some of those second rounders?
101 daveH said at 10:15 PM on March 8th, 2015:
he traded mike schmidt, dr J and pelle lindburgh
102 eagleyankfan said at 10:16 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Can he trade Arod?
103 daveH said at 9:00 AM on March 9th, 2015:
arod is perfect for the Yankees.
104 droid3000 said at 10:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
im pissed
105 oreofestar said at 10:07 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Hard to get pissed until I see the terms
106 ICDogg said at 10:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Pissed angry or pissed drunk?
107 droid3000 said at 10:10 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Don’t drink so it’s got to be the other one
108 GermanEagle said at 10:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Im pissed. Drunk. English n
109 OregonDucker said at 10:27 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Meeee toooo. A lot to clean up tomorrow.
110 eagleyankfan said at 10:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
On or off?
111 ICDogg said at 10:09 PM on March 8th, 2015:
1st time NFL Head Coach.. Two years in.. Two 1O win seasons.. 1 NFC East Title… I'm willing to be patient!!— Brian Dawkins (@BrianDawkins) March 9, 2015
112 cliff h-MOAR white goons said at 10:14 PM on March 8th, 2015:
must admit, i hear his voice on espn, my world stops. when they played, liked mcnabb more, but 20’s flown past in retirement.
113 anon said at 10:10 PM on March 8th, 2015:
hali restructured tp 6.5m. can’t believe they kept him w dee ford and houston, oh well.
114 cliff h-MOAR white goons said at 10:12 PM on March 8th, 2015:
dang. any word on mcphee? he could be nice hybris nickel/dend
115 Kelce's Beard said at 11:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
no no no no no
cole + BG —> mcphee = 🙁
116 ICDogg said at 10:10 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Chip's going to sign a WR like Hakeem Nicks or Cecil Shorts, we'll hate the move, and he'll get 850 and 7 TDs in 2015.— Bryn Swartz (@eaglescentral) March 9, 2015
117 anon said at 10:12 PM on March 8th, 2015:
forgot about celcil shorts, also a great choice, won’t be nicks.
118 D3FB said at 10:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
ALL HAIL Division 3 FOOTBALL!
119 P_P_K said at 10:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You might already be tuned into this, but here’s the D3 players in the NFL last year.
Buffalo: Jordan Gay, P, Centre; Fred Jackson, RB, Coe.
Indianapolis: Jerrell Freeman, LB, Mary Hardin-Baylor; Andy Studebaker, LB, Wheaton
Jacksonville: Cecil Shorts III, WR, Mount Union
Miami: Jason Trusnik, LB, Ohio Northern
San Francisco: Derek Carrier, TE, Beloit
Seattle: Steven Hauschka, K, Middlebury (by way of N.C. State)
Washington: Pierre Garcon, WR, Mount Union
120 D3FB said at 10:41 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Nice, Trusnik is the only one I’m not familiar with.
Marpet will almost assuredly make it and I like the WR from Whitewater’s chances as well.
121 Patrick said at 10:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Hakeem Nicks will get 1000 yards in the injury pool and 7 surgeries, hopefully we dont go anywhere near him.
I do agree with the point though, Chip will probably make it work with solid NFL starters. It just sucks when we had DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin the last couple of years. Chip pays huge attention to the OL, he likes to utilize TE and he spreads the ball around. We were always gonna move towards 4 good WRs, instead of 1 or 2 great ones.
122 Mr. Magee said at 12:54 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Who the heck is bryn Swartz?
123 ICDogg said at 1:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:
writes Eagles stuff for B/R, Fox’s blog, the Examiner, and other crappy places
124 James said at 10:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Since we did indeed sign Maxwell, we can safely assume that Chip is going to value defense more heavily in FA. We now have 2 upgrades on Defense: Alonso and Maxwell. What else is he thinking?
Well for one safety play, hence the McCourty courting. Still leaves a hole at OLB i.e. T. Cole. So their hope is that they can land McCourty and Worilds most likely. If they cannot get McCourty we will likely see Parker or Searcy and then they may look to Culliver/Moore if they cant get McC.
My wishlist:
Clint Boling
McCourty
Worilds/Sheard
125 anon said at 10:14 PM on March 8th, 2015:
i think we ed up with t. cole or bg
126 ICDogg said at 10:15 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Report: Other NFL Teams Completely Unaware They're Just Pawns in Chip Kelly's Grand Scheme – http://t.co/pFGtvcqnCa— SportsPickle (@sportspickle) March 9, 2015
127 Jarock said at 10:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Surprised I haven’t seen Torrey Smith’s name bandied about here as a Maclin replacement. He’s stylistically similar and confirmed leaving the Ravens. Imagine he’d be cheaper as he’s coming off a down year.
128 anon said at 10:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
done deal with SF
129 Jarock said at 10:18 PM on March 8th, 2015:
ah
130 ICDogg said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Maybe it’s just me but I’m no where near as upset about losing Maclin as I was about DJax last year.
131 GermanEagle said at 10:20 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Agreed. Losing DeSean still hurts.
132 Flyin said at 10:23 PM on March 8th, 2015:
it’s comforting… knowing
133 Weapon Y said at 10:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Other way around for me. DeSean is way too inconsistent and limited for my liking. Still very good, but I understood letting him go. Maclin is an ideal, all-around receiver.
134 GermanEagle said at 10:32 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah… But Desean makes 6/year. That’s a bargain for me liking.
135 Jarock said at 10:35 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Not what he was going to make with us and he’d have refused a pay cut if the Eagles asked. 6 a year is actually fair for a one-dimensional (pretty !#$ good dimension) receiver.
Can’t believe I’m praising the redskins even if it’s a backhanded compliment.
136 Ben Hert said at 8:33 AM on March 9th, 2015:
At least we’ll get a nice comp pick for him.
137 GermanEagle said at 10:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Let’s sign McCourty and McPhee and build some defense. In the end, Defense wins championships. F Maclin.
138 ICDogg said at 10:22 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So NOW Andy pays for a receiver…— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) March 9, 2015
Well, at least Byron Maxwell's name is easier to spell than "Nnamdi"— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) March 8, 2015
When are the Eagles announcing the Vince Young signing?— FakeWIPCaller (@FakeWIPCaller) March 8, 2015
139 Patrick said at 10:23 PM on March 8th, 2015:
If anybody quotes Vince Youngs first interview in Philly, i’ll send you an angry look! TRHOUGH THE INTERNET!!!!
140 eagleyankfan said at 10:22 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Is it true Howie sabotaged Macs contract so he wouldn’t sign here? ……….(joking of course)
141 Kyle C said at 10:22 PM on March 8th, 2015:
With Maclin gone should the eagles be interested in Andre Homles? 6’4 decent year with Oakland which is kind of hard to do…
142 anon said at 10:24 PM on March 8th, 2015:
that’s what ive been saying the whole time
143 Kyle C said at 10:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I think they should.. they didn’t tender him he would be like, 2-3mil at the most! 26 years old 6’4. fits the eagles description (if he can block)
144 OregonDucker said at 10:24 PM on March 8th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/BrianDawkins/status/574752894697631744
145 OregonDucker said at 10:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Sorry ICDogg, I did not page down.
146 Joe Minx said at 10:28 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Anybody seen GEAGLE yet? Starting to worry.
147 OregonDucker said at 10:29 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I think he said he was traveling. When he lands, then it’s duck & cover.
148 Patrick said at 10:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Its gonna be bad. and awesome. and baaaaaad!
149 DJH said at 10:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
OD, do you have a Twitter account? What’s your handle?
150 Jarock said at 10:30 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Search the bars. He’s probably drinking himself into oblivion. We’ll need to search the graveyard if Kelly trades Foles for MM.
151 oreofestar said at 10:30 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He’s fine, he’s probably pissed and doesn’t want to deal with all you guys ripping him
152 GermanEagle said at 10:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Who cares, honestly?
153 mksp said at 10:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He’ll be fine. And seriously, who cares. Way easier to navigate the comments without wading through a dozen paragraphs of spam.
154 GermanEagle said at 10:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It’s not spam. It’s the wisdom of Chippah!
155 Patrick said at 10:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
http://i.imgur.com/tivvuRU.jpg
156 GermanEagle said at 10:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
lol
157 P_P_K said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Good thing we don’t overpay wide receivers.
158 CampDracula said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Off topic: does anyone else find it hypocritical that this dude is still on the team in light of Chip’s talk of “culture?”
159 Patrick said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
There is absolutely nothing funny in Riley Cooper being the Eagles best wide receiver and getting paid 5 million next year.
160 James said at 11:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
#blocking>culture
161 DJH said at 10:32 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Deleted
162 OregonDucker said at 10:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I do but it’s a private account. I’m still a dinosaur in the modern age.
163 Sean Stott said at 10:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’m happy they got Maxwell, but it seems like they got ripped off a little bit. It’s hard to understand why they would overpay for Maxwell but not be willing to meet Maclin’s asking price.
164 OregonDucker said at 10:35 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The value decision tree says WR is less important to Chip.
165 shah8 said at 10:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You know, I’m not really looking forward to more of either Foles or Sanchez. I am not a huge fan of Mariota, to the extent of the sort of trade we’d have to offer.
I am not a fan of Maclin leaving, and I have to wonder if the locker room was a big impact on his decisionmaking.
I generally consider Maxwell the product of the system. At least in 2013, quite a bit of his work dealt with the consequences of a shutdown corner on the other side, with excellent backup behind him. My view is that the Eagles have conceded that speed is a necessary component of CB success, and they absolutely couldn’t sacrifice requisite speed in favor of size and cleanup tackling.
Frank Gore is too old to be a bellcow back. Not sure why we need two such long in the tooth backs. The usual tendency of guys as old as Gore is that there is a dramatic drop in effectiveness due to unfamiliar system, and not being able to drag out more physical performance to compensate. That’s a lot of money for such a back, and getting him makes me think that we have to draft a RB in the second or third.
Ehhh…I’m really thinking this is a setup to be a down year. If that’s the case, here’s to not selling out huge for Mariota.
166 OregonDucker said at 10:38 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Love your posts shah8. Let’s see how FA and the draft plays out. Then we can assess.
167 mksp said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I mean, you’ll never truly be happy with the Eagles, will you?
168 shah8 said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I don’t think anyone can be perfectly happy with any team, unless, I guess they have won a SB and can win more, and even still, most teams in the true FA has some sort of hole.
I’m not happy with the Eagles because I think there is too good a chance they’re on the wrong path.
169 anon said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
why do you feel that way?
170 shah8 said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I have had strong suspicions for a while that Chip Kelly is one of those coaches who busts because he believes his system can compensate for lack of talent. Talent on O is…kind of low. It’s rather evenly spread out, so this could be a team that beats poorly coached, disorganized defenses, but in no way can we score truely at will.
171 anon said at 11:04 PM on March 8th, 2015:
i think he’s doing what he needs to do. we get tons of yds between the 20ss no rz. so he got a power back. i think he’s going to get a better guard. and we’ll get a big body wr all to help imrpove the redzone. Especially if we do get MM we’ll have no issue moving the ball.
172 shah8 said at 11:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
bird in hand, man, bird in hand, first!
173 Mitchell said at 11:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The thing is though, you never seem happy with any player or personnel move.
174 shah8 said at 11:07 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Really? I don’t remember commenting much on 2011, but I did sort of approve of the Fireman, and the Dream Team stuff. I can’t remember 2012 moves, except that we had an excellent draft. There hasn’t been much in the way of sexiness about Eagles offseasons in 2013 and 2014, I guess. And I’m…not happy about 2015.
And seriously, were 2013 and 2014 particularly successful offseasons, other than not being crazy in drafts 2013, and having a rather bad offseason in 2014?
175 Mitchell said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Just setting up the push for Webb.
176 shah8 said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yup. He’d be an old lotto ticket, but he’s MY lotto ticket.
177 fran35 said at 10:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
How do you think the locker room was a factor in the maclin decision? I thought he was #culture
178 shah8 said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Andy Reid.
179 anon said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
gore averaged 5ypc running from shotgun last season.
180 P_P_K said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
That’s huge. Do you know how other top backs fared from the shotgun?
181 anon said at 10:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
better than mccoy. probably. Stat came from ESPN, so they just compared mccoy and gore.
182 P_P_K said at 11:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Thanks. Yea, I don’t think Shady was getting 5 from the shotgun.
183 anon said at 11:12 PM on March 8th, 2015:
he like BB are much better EW runners, wouldn’t call him a 1 cut guy.
184 xeynon said at 11:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
A shah post (a long one, too) I actually agree 100% with? Chip really has upset the firmament.
185 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Sooooo…….Any interest in Percy Harvin?
186 ICDogg said at 10:35 PM on March 8th, 2015:
look carefully tweet is fake
BREAKING: Devin McCourty's agent tells me that McCourty will sign a 4 Year Deal with the #Eagles once Free Agency Opens #NFLFreeAgency— Ian Rapoport (@Rap_Sheeet) March 9, 2015
187 OregonDucker said at 10:36 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Praise the Lord and pass the championship rings.
188 oreofestar said at 10:37 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It’s fake
189 OregonDucker said at 10:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Darn! There is a lot of that today oreofester. And the martinis and PBRs are kicking in. My reading comprehension out the window.
190 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:36 PM on March 8th, 2015:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT BALLS.
edit- Fuck me. That hurt.
191 GermanEagle said at 10:37 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Why would you quote a fake account!???
192 ICDogg said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The craziness of the Internet amuses me
193 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:38 PM on March 8th, 2015:
LIES.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/574760321480437761
194 ICDogg said at 10:41 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I said it was fake on the first line.
195 OregonDucker said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Many of us are too blurry eyed to notice.
196 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I skipped to the tweet that said “BREAKING ”
You’re on my shit list.
197 A_T_G said at 10:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Are we now responsible for people not actually reading the words we type? Because, if so, I am offended by your threat, “I skipped to BREAK your shit.” which I read by focusing on capitalized words, verbs, and profanity.
198 Nick C said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I see you say it’s false but why would you even post that? Haven’t we already been screwed by one false report today?
199 GermanEagle said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
This.
200 A_T_G said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Eh, consider it a public service warning. He led with the statement that it is fake. I think that is fair. It probably saved some unsuspecting twitterer from being duped and posting it five minutes later.
201 oreofestar said at 10:38 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So McCourty back in NE…DAMNIT!!
202 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 10:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Searcy is still out there.
203 Patrick said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The difference between McCourty and any other FA safety on the market is so wide, even Riley Cooper can find a way to get open in all that space.
204 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 10:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
my bar is set low, no nate allen.
205 oreofestar said at 10:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No Devin or Mac…bad day
206 ICDogg said at 10:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah, looks that way.
207 GermanEagle said at 10:41 PM on March 8th, 2015:
This is exactly what I was fearing. All the top free agents staying with their teams. Such a shame Mac didn’t stay..
208 anon said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
were helping a lot of ppl get paid
209 A_T_G said at 10:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I am pretty sure Morton would say that Chip set the franchise back 5 years today.
210 D3FB said at 10:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Christ, I almost forgot.
211 GermanEagle said at 10:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
lol. Miss him…
212 P_P_K said at 10:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Anyone know whatever happened to him?
213 GermanEagle said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He swapped bodies and got GEAGLE’d.
214 P_P_K said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You didn’t thank me for setting you up for that punch line.
215 GermanEagle said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I wouldn’t mind a planters punch now
216 P_P_K said at 10:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
We’re back to the discussion about being pissed…
217 GermanEagle said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I still am.
218 P_P_K said at 10:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Discussing or getting pissed?
219 BreakinAnklez said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He got super salty when Tommy called him out in a post and never showed up again. I still have several screen grabs on my phone hoping he comes back so I can call him out!!
220 GermanEagle said at 10:46 PM on March 8th, 2015:
maybe Tommy should call out someone else…
221 D3FB said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Or just do what Sheil did.
222 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yes, ICDogg.
223 D3FB said at 10:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Are you kidding?!
It’s clearly Balhoopi who is the instigator.
224 laeagle said at 12:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:
It’s not Baloophi’s fault, he’s on some red meat and porridge diet and it’s made him go all loopy.
225 D3FB said at 12:23 AM on March 9th, 2015:
You damn LA people with your fancy schmancy diets.
226 BreakinAnklez said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
And because we didn’t sign Suh, or whomever he said would suck in the draft and turned out to be good
227 cliff-U of ACL @ Oregon said at 10:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
think he’s token over at 24/7
228 oreofestar said at 10:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So we missed out on the top target, overpaid for a corner, let our #1 wide out walk, and gave healthy contracts to a backup QB and aging back…sweet
229 Nick C said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
And we’ve been waiting months for these moves
230 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Honestly I was never really satisfied with Maclin as our #1.
231 oreofestar said at 10:46 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No one left to replace him though unless they want to move Cameron back at wr
232 xeynon said at 11:54 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Then you’re going to be even less satisfied with our #1 next year, because whoever replaces him isn’t going to be as good as he is.
233 OregonDucker said at 10:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Time for seppuku.
234 mksp said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Or we filled a huge hole in our secondary, didn’t overpay a #2 WR, solidified our back up QB situation and signed the perfect stopgap RB for our scheme at a quarter of the Shady’s cap hit.
It’s all spin, man. Time is a flat circle.
235 oreofestar said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I don’t hate all the move but my pessimistic spin was glorious
236 Greg Richards said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Really don’t think we overpaid for Maxwell. Payed market price. You’re not going to get your #1 target at every position. As far as Maclin goes, while I’m not totally convinced KC is going to get him, if you don’t think it’s wise to pay a WR what he’s asking then you shouldn’t pay that to them just because you missed out on another position. Sometimes that factors in and you might be willing to increase your offer slightly but if you think a top WR in your offense should only get $6 or $7M a year you’re not all of a sudden going to offer them $10M a year. Releasing all those guys wasn’t just about this year anyway.
237 Ark87 said at 10:48 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It’s still a very hot take so I reserve the right to change my opinion, but our offense was good not great. Can’t just switch out McCoy for Gore and Maclin for a #2 type WR and not expect to see a drop-off. Of course we’ll see who we bring in to be our #1 receiver first.
Also Maclin had such a strong rapport with Foles in clutch moments. Put this into the growing bin of evidence suggesting Foles is gone.
238 wee2424 said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Your right. We shouldn’t have gotten Maxwell? And we should have over paid Maclin? See what I did there?
239 oreofestar said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’m being super pessimistic I’m Fina with Maxwell move, Sanchez and Gore moves are meh but I get them it’s the sting of the other 2 I’m feeling
240 wee2424 said at 11:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I didn’t think we would get both but I was hopefully. There are still some good FA safeties. Maclin does hurt, and I am pissed about it. I see three options out of this. Torry Smith, Andre Johnson somehow, or make a play on a receiver high in the draft.
241 Jarock said at 11:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
As anon told me, Torry is signing with SF.
Andre would look good in green.
242 laeagle said at 12:09 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Sucks but you can never get really pissed off too much when a guy signs with his current team for less. Not much you can do there. Even less when said team just won the Super Bowl.
With that said, why was Maclin the only jackass who didn’t do that today?
243 ICDogg said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So, 1 upgrade, a couple of downgrades, and 1 not exciting stay-in-place move.
244 GermanEagle said at 10:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
and FA hasn’t actually started yet.
245 Greg Richards said at 10:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
2 upgrades. Alonso has to be factored in.
246 ICDogg said at 10:51 PM on March 8th, 2015:
fair enough
247 Jarock said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Wow. Glass half empty???
Alonso is an upgrade over Ryans let alone the garbage we trotted out most of the 2nd half of the season.
Maxwell is an upgrade over either Cary or Brad.
Gore is a slight step down from Shady, but I’m not convinced the dropoff will be as severe as some fear.
Losing Mac hurts but he’s not irreplaceable.
Still not done making moves. Wait til the dust settles before assuming the worst.
248 ICDogg said at 10:51 PM on March 8th, 2015:
not assuming anything, just summarizing the day
249 suthrneagle said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
1st and goal from the 5…who scores more often, McCoy or Gore?
250 anon said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
chris polk 🙂
251 Jarock said at 10:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Can’t stay healthy getting under a hundred touches a year. He’d break down by game three if we tried to ride him as a number one.
252 anon said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
i was joking
253 Jarock said at 11:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
np. I like Polk. Shame he can’t be counted on.
254 suthrneagle said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
that`s why McCoy is in Buffalo, and Gore is in Philly.
255 ICDogg said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
How are we getting to the 5
256 Patrick said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Mark Sanchez silly!
257 A_T_G said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Getting to the 5? We are going to START at the 5 with our defense and special teams.
258 suthrneagle said at 11:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Chip saw that Shady Dancer was not getting it done,which is why McCoy was on the sidelines more often than not when one or two yards were needed to score, and why he is being paid by Buffalo, and Gore will be cashing Lurie`s paychecks.
259 wee2424 said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I think Alonso is an upgrade. Dude FA didn’t even technically start yet. I’m upset over Maclin, I didn’t expect to get both Mccourty and Maxwell.
260 CrackSammich said at 10:47 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Writing on the wall suggests the team is expecting a rookie QB contract on the books. Although the world has seemed to have already made up their mind on which QB that’s going to be, it could just as easily be Hundley. Actually, much more easily.
261 Greg Richards said at 10:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
McCourty got $10M a year from Pats. Lot to pay a safety. Count me unconvinced that a top safety is worth more than a top CB.
262 BreakinAnklez said at 10:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Bring on Searcy
263 James said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So plan B it is. Will be interesting who they get between Searcy/Parker
264 oreofestar said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So Revis is probably going to the Jets
265 GermanEagle said at 10:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Or to us. I kid I kid
266 RobNE said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Doubt it. That rumor is only from the jets. I bet the pats.
267 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:51 PM on March 8th, 2015:
That would make him the highest paid S in the NFL.
268 oreofestar said at 10:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
5 years 47.5M we probably offered it, not surprised he took a little less to stay in NE
269 BreakinAnklez said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I still don’t think he was ever leaving
270 ICDogg said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Pats are going to have to release Revis or renegotiate his deal.
271 James said at 10:52 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Is it possible we make a play for him?! Shocker!
272 anon said at 10:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
not enough cap room
273 Jarock said at 10:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Scary part . . . given what we just paid Maxwell, can you imagine how much Revis would want from us?
274 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
$16 mm/year? Which is what he gets now.
275 James said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Cant imagine, 60 M for 3 years?
lol…
276 Jarock said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
sounds about right 😛
277 Joe Minx said at 10:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Jeremy Maclin
‏@JeremyMaclin18
Eagles fans are a little salty. But who cares I’m a Chief!
278 Patrick said at 10:51 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Its not him!
279 GermanEagle said at 10:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Good for him. Otherwise I would punch him in the face.
280 James said at 10:54 PM on March 8th, 2015:
That would help shake the salt off at least.
281 oreofestar said at 10:53 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Its fake!
282 Joe Minx said at 10:55 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Damn! That’s 2 in a row I’ve fallen for now. Maybe time to put down the bottle.
283 GermanEagle said at 10:56 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Since there’s no Mac and McC, how much is left in our books? I would say lets make a cheeky offer to the Chiefs for Houston. Not 2 1st round picks, but I would be willing to part with our #20…
284 oreofestar said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I still wouldn’t give up 20 and give or take 36mil
285 anon said at 10:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
and no franklin.
286 Greg Richards said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Stefen Wisniewski or Clint Boling
287 anon said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
i like both
288 James said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Seriously tho, I’m going to be VERY confused if we don’t sign Boling.
289 Greg Richards said at 10:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Ian Rapoport
‏@RapSheet
9m9 minutes ago
#Patriots S Devin McCourty will sign a 5-year, $47.5M contract, source said. Wow. And… turned down more elsewhere
290 RobNE said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He didn’t want to leave so we can’t say we should have paid him instead of maxwell.
291 BreakinAnklez said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
^ this
292 Jarock said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah, sad, but that should put the ‘we should have got McCourty instead’ people to bed.
293 peteike said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Good point but still frustrating. Cmon rahim
294 Patrick said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Soo, our guys show zero loyalty while pretty much every other big FA decides to stay home. I blame tebow.
295 anon said at 11:04 PM on March 8th, 2015:
gotta blame chip gutting the team, but it is what it is.
296 Greg Richards said at 11:04 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Update: $28.5M guaranteed for McCourty
297 oreofestar said at 11:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
More than Max
298 peteike said at 11:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
We can continue hatred for patriots full force
299 GermanEagle said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yous fooolz,
Don’t worry, Mac will be an Eagle 4 life! No worriezzzz, it’s FOlezzzz to Maclinzzzzz, yous foooolzzzz!
300 OregonDucker said at 10:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/574760336949186561
301 Jarock said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I hate you, Kempski 😛
302 James said at 11:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He prolly like yuusss, now I can get more balls thrown my way…but I am only gonna catch like 71% of them.
303 Jarock said at 11:04 PM on March 8th, 2015:
You’re overly optimistic.
304 Ark87 said at 11:00 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I just don’t get the Gore signing. We have a 32 year old back, a 34(maybe?) year old back, and Polk (who I love but has some durability issues). I wonder if the contract will allow us to cut him during camp for no loss if we find a young guy in the draft.
305 anon said at 11:01 PM on March 8th, 2015:
in last 5 years gore has started more games than shady. he also averaged 5.0ypc running from shot gun last year. don’t think we’re just out there getting random guys. people thought sproles was too old as well.
306 D3FB said at 11:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
List of seasons where a back 32 or older ran for more than 4.0 ypa, with any kind of real workload:
Garrison Hearst (2003) age 32: 178-768-3 (4.31)
Mike Anderson (2005) age 32: 239-1014-12 (4.24)
Ricky WIlliams (2009) age 32: 241-1142-11 (4.65)
Warrick Dunn (2008) age 33: 186-786-2 (4.23)
Marcus Allen (1995) age 35: 207-890-5 (4.3)
Marcus Allen (1996) age 36:206-830-9 (4.03)
History does not look favorably upon this contract.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/…
307 anon said at 11:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
did list look any different for 31yo rbs?
308 D3FB said at 11:09 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It wasn’t pretty in general, more 4. And it was just the top 50 statistical seasons for backs >30.
309 anon said at 11:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
not surprising. I expect Gore to have a Sproles like year – with contributions from an UDFA
310 D3FB said at 11:15 PM on March 8th, 2015:
We should have a decent shot at alot of good guys on day 3.
Couple of guys I particularly like:
Josh Robinson
https://twitter.com/DraftGIFs/status/574646524736618498
John Crockett:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzydNJqKm50
311 BreakinAnklez said at 11:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Thoughts on David Cobb?
312 D3FB said at 11:24 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I like him. I’m still pretty early into the backs, I’ve only watched most of them casually as up until a week ago I didn’t think we would do more than take a day 3 flyer on somebody. Overall though Cobb doesn’t look like a 230lbs back which is a good thing. He has some lateral wiggle. TBD about vision or his transition to a zone scheme.
The perfect fit for this offense is Ameer but I don’t think that’s going to happen unless teams get really freaked out by his heavy college workload.
313 BreakinAnklez said at 11:31 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Thanks. I like Cobb a lot. Doesn’t Ameer have a serious case of fumblitis? That would drive Chip mad I think.
314 D3FB said at 11:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Had 4, lost 2 as a Senior.
315 BreakinAnklez said at 11:39 PM on March 8th, 2015:
13 total over his 4 years…that’s a lot
316 D3FB said at 11:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Keep in mind he had 886 touches. I’m not too concerned given his entire body of work.
317 A_T_G said at 11:20 PM on March 8th, 2015:
If we draft him, do you think Gore will be okay with the tag Crocket and Tubbs?
318 Ark87 said at 11:23 PM on March 8th, 2015:
looked like Tecmo Bowl
319 Jarock said at 11:24 PM on March 8th, 2015:
baaaaad tackling. Still, impressive run.
320 Ark87 said at 11:15 PM on March 8th, 2015:
not to mention average running back decline per year after 28 doesn’t plateau into mediocrity with age, it gets steeper. (Saw a pretty staggering chart with the data when someone was breaking down the shady trade, now i can’t find it 🙁 )
321 D3FB said at 11:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
This one?
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/474x/f4/0d/fc/f40dfc5fb442fe64c8ff2c23ec91c00b.jpg
322 Jarock said at 11:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It’s a risk, no doubt. Managing his workload will be more important than it was when we had Shady.
323 peteike said at 11:07 PM on March 8th, 2015:
EWww good post, thanks.. Still not concerned with risk reward on that contract, still plenty to spend
324 Kelce's Beard said at 11:50 PM on March 8th, 2015:
how many of those guys ran out of the shotgun?
325 Ark87 said at 11:03 PM on March 8th, 2015:
just thinking longer term. Not having any young potential developing behind the starter isn’t a great feeling. 2 Veterans likely on their last contract in Philly
326 BreakinAnklez said at 11:02 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Gore and Sproles will be 32. Gore is a one cut, N/S runner. Sure, we all would have preferred Gore 5 years ago, but I’m very excited to see what he can do.
327 peteike said at 11:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Like others said has to be lowering expectations for mm trade but how can they be sure to land that.. Guessing mccourty just declined what can you do.. Other places still to spend, I’ll wait for now. Frustrating as a fan so far, you gotta reach to stay positive
328 unhinged said at 5:17 PM on March 9th, 2015:
I’m thinking Bellichick upped the ante for McCourty. Jets are going hard after Revis, and losing both of those guys would seriously impact his D.
329 scratcherk said at 11:05 PM on March 8th, 2015:
So who has any insight on these safeties still available? Cant say I’ve seen any of them play…
330 anon said at 11:06 PM on March 8th, 2015:
searcy and rahime moore. moore was with undlin in denver.
331 peteike said at 11:06 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Rahim Moore is decent. Better than anything on roster to pair with jenkins
332 James said at 11:06 PM on March 8th, 2015:
D3FB: What is your take on both Searcy and Parker?
333 D3FB said at 11:11 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I dunno. Not a huge pro personnel guy. Can’t say I watched much/any of Buffalo of KC’s defense other than in the background.
334 James said at 11:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Off topic,but did you scout McCourty in College? Im curious your thoughts on him and what criteria would it take in a CB to make the switch to S and become a stud.
335 D3FB said at 11:19 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Nah, 2011 was the first year I really started to pay more attention than the casual fan. McCourty was 2010.
336 Jarock said at 11:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Scary part . . . Geagle’s opinion on Searcy in particular would be very useful. I know he watched a lot if not all of the Buffalo games. What I’ve heard 2nd hand is Searcy had a really good season this year, but this is the only productive year he’s had. Kind of similar to Maxwell in that you’re gambling on fairly little playing time equaling long term success.
337 scratcherk said at 11:16 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Took over for Byrd and did pretty well from what I hear.
338 BreakinAnklez said at 11:17 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He got a lot of starts year before with Byrd hurt too. He’s been solid
339 James said at 11:20 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I feel ya. Maxwell I have quite a bit of confidence in. Searcy is more of a mystery, but re-uniting Alonso with Searcy would be quite nice.
340 GermanEagle said at 11:07 PM on March 8th, 2015:
We should have enough money to sign Moore and House now.
341 James said at 11:08 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Maxwell House would be pretty legit. Tho I have more intrigue with Searcy/Parker over Moore.
342 peteike said at 11:09 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Just spend it already ha.. This second level tier always takes longer to play out
343 scratcherk said at 11:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Just to make sure– Moore is the dude with the terribly timed jump, no?
344 oreofestar said at 11:13 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yes
345 Jarock said at 11:15 PM on March 8th, 2015:
blargh
346 Greg Richards said at 11:16 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Earlier in his career, has improved since
347 Jarock said at 11:18 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah I know. Also, shouldn’t judge a player on a single bad play. Everyone has them, just really bad when that’s the only play anyone really remembers about the player in question. Combine with the Eagles struggles with giving up deep passes the last two seasons and it’s not a pleasant thought.
348 D3FB said at 11:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
That play won’t be the first thing you think of after you read this.
http://mmqb.si.com/2014/05/28/nfl-denver-broncos-rahim-moore-compartment-syndrome/
349 Jarock said at 11:34 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Thanks for the link, Tyler. Good article. Tough break for him and huge props for battling back the way he has. Makes me want to pull for him personally, but doesn’t convince me he’d be a good fit for the defense.
350 anon said at 11:18 PM on March 8th, 2015:
was pretty good last year, didn’t let getting abused bother him.
351 scratcherk said at 11:21 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Surprisingly enough — TATE is not exploding over the loss of Maclin
352 oreofestar said at 11:25 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Maybe the Eagles should have traded for Marshall when they had the chance
353 Greg Richards said at 11:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I think Kelly loves him some Huff.
354 Jarock said at 11:27 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Now, I may be pretty optimistic about most of Kelly’s moves but if Huff’s pencilled in as a starter, that would shake my confidence.
355 unhinged said at 4:51 PM on March 9th, 2015:
Kelly’s going to get a WR because we are thin there now. If it is Matthews, Huff and Cooper, who’s left to sub when one goes down?
356 Jarock said at 11:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Great physical talent, but I doubt he’d fit Kelly’s #culture.
357 James said at 11:26 PM on March 8th, 2015:
All signs point to young, cost controlled WR’s. He thinks they are easily replaceable.
358 wee2424 said at 11:29 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I liked the Shady move ALOT. I think Gore will be good for us and an upgrade in RZ but overall a slight downgrade at talent. I get the Toddfather was old, injury prone and expensive, but I think Tobin is a downgrade talent wise. I started last week really excited but now I’m just confused. This off season is very contradicting. I’m happy about the Maxwell signing, and we needed it, but we did overpay which filled a need. So we don’t sign Maclin, a homegrown talent, because we don’t want to overspend. So now we have another huge need. Chip values the Oline so he lets Herremans go, says he is high on Tobin who was an obvious downgrade. It just seems as though there may have been a plan but it is starting to unravel. I thought you keep Maclin and go high pick in draft at Oline since its a weak Oline draft. Now it appears you may have to go WR earlier then thought. I get the plug and play concept, but I think it only works if you have someone like Brady.
359 suthrneagle said at 11:43 PM on March 8th, 2015:
It just seems as though there may have been a plan but it is starting to unravel. … the thing is is it`s not your plan,so how could you think that it`s unraveling? It`s Kelly`s plan, and all we can do is watch as it plays out. Relax, it`s gonna be a long 6 months till Game 1 kicks off.
360 wee2424 said at 12:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Lol it’s because we have opinions and that’s why there is a comment section. I’m not freaking out, I’m just disappointed because of the contradictions and the message it can send to our homegrown talent. The whole fun part of the off season is guessing the plan and hopeing it works out how you think it will. None of us truly know their plan, but we make educated guesses on what it can be. Maybe I was right and it didn’t go how Chip thought it would. Maybe I’m wrong. Because you know as little as I do who are you to tell me that what I thought their plan was is not correct. Same goes if I were telling you your guess is wrong. However, isn’t it entirely plausible that what they wanted to do didn’t go right? Off seasons never work out exactly how teams want them to. They reportedly made McCourty the highest priority, and wanted to retain Maclin. They weren’t able to. So doesn’t that suggest right there what they wanted to do didn’t go right?
361 unhinged said at 5:11 PM on March 9th, 2015:
I was concerned about the message that overpaying for Maclin would send. I am not happy about BG wearing blue, and I was hoping that Maclin would return, but I’m really more concerned about who will be our starting OLB predator next season.
362 xeynon said at 11:33 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Ugh is right. 2 yrs/9 mm with 5.5 guaranteed is grossly overpaying for Mark Sanchez. Yet Kelly’s willing to let Maclin walk over a couple million extra dollars? A receiving corps of Huff, Matthews, and Cooper isn’t gonna scare anyone. It’s quite possibly the worst starting group in the NFL. I’m sure he’ll bring in another veteran, but there is no other player available who is remotely in Maclin’s class as a receiver in this FA class. This offense is going to take a step back next season. Book it.
Signing Maxwell doesn’t even make up for it. He’s a good cornerback and an upgrade on Cary Williams but he’s not one of the five best CBs in football, which is what he’s being paid like.
I have no idea why Chip is willing to overpay for other teams’ players while nickel-and-diming his own into leaving town, but I don’t like it a bit.
363 NinjaP said at 11:36 PM on March 8th, 2015:
4.5 a year for a top backup isn’t over paying. I think sanchez actually made more last year.
364 BreakinAnklez said at 11:37 PM on March 8th, 2015:
He made 2.5
365 Greg Richards said at 11:37 PM on March 8th, 2015:
No, he made $2.25M last year with incentives that could boost his pay to $4M.
366 xeynon said at 11:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
As mentioned above, he made about half as much last year. And calling him a “top backup” is a stretch. He’s an okay backup, but nothing more.
367 Insomniac said at 11:40 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The draft isn’t even here and everyone is going “Desean’s gone” over Maclin? Lol
368 xeynon said at 12:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:
We already had a number of positions that were in crying need of an infusion of young talent before the moves of the last week. Now we can add RB and WR to that list. You only have so many high draft picks, and we’ll have few or none if we actually get Mariota.
Teams get better by filling in existing holes, not creating new ones. It’s possible the Chiefs grossly overpaid for Maclin and the Eagles made a sound financial decision by letting him walk – but there is no arguing that it doesn’t make them worse on the field to do so. The likelihood of another free agent receiver being as good as Maclin is very small, and the likelihood of a draft pick replacing him adequately is near zero (and picking a WR would mean not picking a guy at another position).
369 RC5000 said at 1:01 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Maclin isn’t irreplaceable in the long run.Too many Eagles fans just don’t have faith in Kelly’s offensive mind and methods.
I’m not saying he’s a championship coach yet but they have drafted Ertz and Matthews and Huff may be good also, he did flash a tiny bit and he needs to relax.
370 wee2424 said at 11:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Yeah I don’t get this. Willing to overspend on outside talent but not on our own.
371 Jarock said at 11:42 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Absolutely agree we’re overpaying Sanchez. Still, not a lot of good choices when you’re looking for backups unless you’re convinced Barkley finally makes good which Chip clearly isn’t.
Maxwell is a solid upgrade over Cary and he’s making just over 10mil a season. That’s good but not elite money. It’s the guaranteed money that’s over the top frankly.
Other’s pointed out that Chip doesn’t seem to value the WR position and based on his history at Oregon, that certainly seems to be the case. I think he’d have liked to have Maclin back but only at what he considered reasonable. I really hope we’re not depending on Huff to start or even be the #3, but I wouldn’t be shocked if that’s what happens.
Overall, I’d say our D took two solid steps forward with the acquisitions of Maxwell and Alonso while our O took a step back with the losses of Herremans, Maclin, and Shady and signing of Gore. I’m doing the glass half full thing at this point, but only the regular season will tell the tale.
372 Greg Richards said at 11:44 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Expect us to sign a replacement(and upgrade) for Herremanns in FA.
373 Jarock said at 11:45 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Would certainly make me happy and wouldn’t surprise me. Also, suspect we’ll sign a veteran WR while we’re at it. Trying to not to be Geagle and do the predictive thing 😀
374 Greg Richards said at 11:49 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’ll do it. Cecil Shorts at WR. Either Clint Boling or Stefen Wisniewski at OG. Wisniewski played center for Oakland but can play RG too.
375 Jarock said at 11:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
I’d rather have someone more dynamic than Shorts. Boling or Wisniewski would be welcome additions.
Edit – Now if you are pretending to be Geagle, you have to disparage me and claim I have no idea what I am talking about. Feel free to call me names while doing so 😛 (Pouring it on poor Geagle, but he did leave himself wide open today.)
376 Greg Richards said at 12:06 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Let me ask you something? Do you understand football? It’s pretty clear to anyone of any ounce of intelligence that Shorts is the best option and if you don’t understand that you should just stop watching the game. I’ve tried to lay it out for you and everyone else on this board and it amazes me that you’re not yet able to comprehend things. Stop paying attention to the media, none of which have any clue whatsoever, and try to use some common sense.
377 Joe Minx said at 12:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I really thought you were him for a minute there. Nicely done.
378 Jarock said at 12:26 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Needs to add typos.
379 unhinged said at 4:45 PM on March 9th, 2015:
G and G dopplegangers.
380 unhinged said at 4:43 PM on March 9th, 2015:
Shorts is injury prone. I’d go after Andre Johnson if his asking price isn’t unrealistic.
381 wee2424 said at 12:04 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I am more high on Huff then you are, but that’s if he is in the slot. Which would mean Mathews would move to outside in which I don’t think Kelly will do. I’m pissed about Maclin, you over spend on one need, but refuse to on another which is a homegrown talent, which in turn creates another glaring need. I get the devalue of WR, and the plug and play at that position. It makes sense, as long as you have a Tom Brady. You can scheme all you want in this league but you also need talent. I was behind the Shady move. I’m not behind this Maclin thing. If he truly wants MM he needs talent around him.
382 Jarock said at 12:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I realize Huff’s talented, but his mistakes last season outweighed his production. If he wasn’t an Oregon alum, I’m convinced he’d have been nailed to the bench after his second bone-headed turnover. MSIII is clearly talented and couldn’t sniff the field for most of the season. If Chip trades most of the next two drafts away to get MM, he’s going to need to spend money on quality FA, even at positions like WR.
383 wee2424 said at 12:35 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I don’t want to go after MM, and I believe if we were to do so signing Maclin would have been a bigger priority. Yes Huffs mistakes outweighed the production, and I think that’s why he saw the field less, and due to his early season injury. However he seems to be a hard worker and I’m sure he is working on his hands and ball carrying while studying the playbook. You can see the kid has serious toughness and YAC potential. He is a violent runner for a WR. If he puts in the work i think he could be a very dangerous KR/PR and slot receiver in this league.
384 RC5000 said at 1:15 AM on March 9th, 2015:
How do you know they won’t sign a WR? Mariota needs maclin and Foles doesn’t? seems like a big stretch…i guess your point is they would be more comfortable trading picks but they could have plans you don’t know about.
385 wee2424 said at 11:48 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Obviously they have plans none of us know about. I was just discussing a scenario. They probably are going to sign a WR, which will be a downgrade over Maclin. Any receiver we sign now will not in anyway be considered a number 1. Wouldn’t be a problem if you had another solid outside receiver, but we don’t. We have the worst rated outside receiver in the league in Cooper. Right now it’s possible we might have the worst WR group in the NFL. It will change, but it just won’t be as good as if Maclin were here.
386 RC5000 said at 1:43 AM on March 9th, 2015:
You make good points but Mariota just turned 21 in fall, there is time to build around him.
387 unhinged said at 4:30 PM on March 9th, 2015:
As long as the negotiation went, both sides expressing optimism, I have to believe that Maclin made decision solely on $$. That is his right, and more power to him, but I do believe that Kelly wanted him, just not for a ransom. I know that it is subjective, but Kelly seems cognizant of position limits on cap, and if he thinks Maclin was demanding more than Kelly deemed fair, I agree with his decision. Conversely, Eagles appear to have very little revenue tied up in the secondary, and getting a corner worth what Maxwell is going to get is not nearly as simple, in my opinion, as replacing Maclin’s productivity.
388 anon said at 11:57 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Jaguars to sign free agent Julius Thomas to a five-year contract worth “close” to $45 million.
389 anon said at 11:58 PM on March 8th, 2015:
The Denver Post reports free agent G/T Orlando Franklin’s deal with San
Diego will average $7.2 million per year and include $14 million
guaranteed.
390 Greg Richards said at 11:59 PM on March 8th, 2015:
Not as much as I expected for him.
391 Donald Kalinowski said at 12:14 AM on March 9th, 2015:
This would make him the 4th highest paid G in the NFL.
392 Greg Richards said at 12:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:
From what I’ve read, Franklin will play RT with Fluker shifting to RG.
393 anon said at 12:08 AM on March 9th, 2015:
i’d also put jarret boykin on my FA looksie list.
394 Donald Kalinowski said at 12:16 AM on March 9th, 2015:
People are bitching too much about Sanchez’ contract. He’s paid the rate of a backup QB.
395 unhinged said at 4:57 PM on March 9th, 2015:
I don’t think it’s what he’s making so much as it’s Philly paying him.
396 Greg Richards said at 12:18 AM on March 9th, 2015:
Wonder if Eagles would have interest in trading for Mike Wallace if cost was minimal. Due $9.85M in 2015, which is pricy, but had 10 TDs playing for QB who didn’t want to throw deep ball.
397 Jarock said at 12:19 AM on March 9th, 2015:
As much as I’ve heard about him whining in Miami, I doubt he fits Chip’s #culture. That’s the biggest problem with most of the talented WR who are left available at this point. Almost all of them are either over the hill or headcases. Oy.
398 47_Ronin said at 12:28 AM on March 9th, 2015:
I see more play with Vincent Jackson, Eagles reportedly had trade interest in him last season, his salary (9.7m) is in-line with the reported Maclin proposal, he’s big, AND he’s turning 32 this year staying consistent with Chip’s preference for aging vets (D. Sprizzle and Gore). Could probably get it done by dangling V. Curry to the Bucs.
399 RC5000 said at 12:46 AM on March 9th, 2015:
problem is even if we sign worilds we need pass rushing and curry can be unstoppable at times.. if you can sign crabtree for less keep curry
400 Joe Minx said at 12:27 AM on March 9th, 2015:
New post!
401 Dan said at 7:21 AM on March 9th, 2015:
What about someone like Wayne as a short term stop gap. I’m not in love with dumping big money on any of the available free agent WR and though I wouldn’t be opposed for us drafting a WR we would need some veteran experience with our very green WR core. Wayne absolutely lost a step but runs good routes and I’ve never heard anything negative about him.