Draft Tidbits
Posted: April 18th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 115 Comments »San Jose State DL Travis Raciti will be coming to Philly for a visit. Per Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee:
San Jose State defensive lineman Travis Raciti, who played at 300 pounds last season, is down to 288 pounds and looked noticeably slimmer and quicker on Friday. Raciti wants to show teams that he can play on the inside of the line and also be a five-technique player in a 3-4 defensive front. Raciti has upcoming visits with the Eagles and Washington.
Raciti had 8.5 sacks in 2012, playing in an attacking 4-3 scheme. SJSU lost their DC after that year and the new guy brought in the 3-4. Raciti moved to DE and wasn’t nearly as effective. SJSU fired the DC and went back to the 4-3, allowing Raciti to move back to DT. He only had 3 sacks, but his tackle total did jump from 37 to 72.
Raciti is 6-4, 288. He had a solid Pro Day workout.
Defensive lineman Travis Raciti (6-foot-3 7/8, 288 pounds) ran the 40-yard dash in 5.06 and 5.18 seconds. He had a 31 1/2-inch vertical and a 8-foot-10 broad jump. He recorded times of 4.66 seconds in the short shuttle and 7.52 seconds in the three-cone drill. He performed 21 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press. Raciti had a good workout. His good quickness makes up for his lack of speed and he will likely be a priority free agent this year.
Raciti is a talented late round prospect. The question is what the Eagles think of him. Do they like him as a DE, even though Raciti didn’t thrive at that spot? Could the Eagles want him to switch positions? It is possible the Eagles could want Raciti to drop down to 275 pounds and play OLB. Another possibility is that they have interest in him as an OL. Per Brandt, the Eagles OL coach was at Raciti’s Pro Day. I can’t confirm if that’s true or that if it is, the coach was there to see Raciti.
I think Raciti has the skills to be a DE. He has a good motor. He can take on and shed blocks. The fact his production fell isn’t a huge deal to me. 3-4 DEs don’t make a ton of plays. Raciti has shown that he is willing to do the dirty work, which is key at 3-4 DE.
As for OL…that is a complete projection. I think he’s got the right disposition to play there. He has enough size and athleticism to play there.
Raciti is a 6th or 7th rounder, or a UDFA.
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The Eagles interest in Adrian Amos forced me to watch a lot of him. It didn’t really affect my thinking. He’s okay and has some good skills, but just isn’t my cup of tea.
The Eagles interest in Jake Fisher has forced me to watch more of him. And he has grown on me. I especially enjoyed the nasty streak he showed in this 2013 game when he was playing RT.
I won’t have any problems if the Eagles take him at 20. I still wonder if he can play OG or needs to be an OT.
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Chris Conley is a very talented WR that will go somewhere in rounds 2-4. Watch this play from the bowl game to appreciate just how fast and explosive he is.
The CB had no chance on that.
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The Eagles brought Utah LT Jeremiah Poutasi in for a visit. I have no idea what to make of this.
Poutasi isn’t a typical Eagles type of OL. He goes 6-5, 335. He ran 5.32 at the Combine and had a 3-cone time of 8.09. I think the Titanic had a 3-cone time of 8.04, if that’s any hint of how slow that is.
So what gives?
This could be one of those visits that is meant to confuse other teams. The Eagles might have zero interest in Poutasi. Or this could be a case where the Eagles think he could be an interesting late round target. Poutasi could be an interesting OG. You would think he is a dominant run blocker with that size, but he didn’t stand out to me. He is erratic in pass protection. There are times when he looks okay, but there are other times when he gets off balance and looks terrible.
With this one…your guess is as good as mine.
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man the days are going by so slow, feel like the draft is still months away..
But the draft is right here…….BANG
Round 2 Pick 2 (T.B.): Jake Fisher, OT/OG, Oregon (A-)
Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A+)
Round 2 Pick 27 (DEN): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1 (T.B.): Benardrick McKinney, ILB, Mississippi State (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 28 (DEN): Tevin Coleman, RB, Indiana (A+)
Round 4 Pick 14: Nick O’Leary, TE, Florida State (B-)
Round 5 Pick 9: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Lorenzo Doss, CB, Tulane (B-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Vince Mayle, WR, Washington State (A)
Round 7 Pick 20: Deon Simon, DT, Northwestern St. (B-)
You overrate O’Leary.
lmfao.. strong isnt going to last that long, he will go 1st round. and neither will fisher or clemmings.. lmfao
About as realistic as faster than light travel.
You cannot seriously have converted a single first round pick into 2 2nd rounders and 2 third rounders.
Tommy-
TJ Clemmings or Jake Fisher?
I prefer Clemmings. Can see where Chip might prefer his guy.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7640/17167262836_7a06f0e238_m.jpg
Chris Conley is 6’2, ran a 4.35 in the combine, and he looks explosive on game tape. I surprised most mocks have him in the 3rd-4th round range.
I think some team takes him in the 2nd round.
Does anyone else want the Eagles to take someone crazy and unexpected in the 1st round just for the entertainment value?
#20 overall pick- Bryce Petty.
That would better than the scrambling jabroni I’ve heard for that spot from some people.
yeah the hundley crap is laughable
If I weren’t an Eagles fan, I’d be dreaming for Chip Kelly to make a wild pick.
I feel like that’s going to happen anyway.
The media is dreaming of it too, when we’re on the clock it’s going to be almost as wild as when Jerruh was on last year with Johnny Football still on the board.
Can you imagine if he’d pulled the trigger on that? God, that would have been the greatest thing ever. Manziel might already be dead from all the blow he would have done as a Cowboy.
I’ll never forget when we selected Kevin Kolb. Me and my friends were in my basement drinking and smoking weed (was young and in HS) waiting what felt like for a lifetime for the Eagles to make their pick. Finally it got to us and we traded back into the second. All the life just got drained out of the room. Waited for like another lifetime for the Birds to make their pick in the second round. Kevin Kolb, we were all like WTF. I hate the layout they do now because if they trade back into the 2nd we have till wait for the next day for the Eagles to make their pick.
Mariota is somehow still on the board at #12. The Eagles trade Sam Bradford and #20 to Cleveland and select . . . Todd Gurley.
No no no. We’re taking Landunn Colwinzz!! #NextDunkins
no need… the media has most of the fanbase expecting and hoping for Landon Collins.. so fanbase and media will flip out anyway once they see us “pass on the best safety in the draft”… so we will already be entertained by a pissed off uneducated fanbase and media due to our first round pick…. If we dont get Mariota, fans will be pissed when we dont take Landon Collins.. its going to be so entertaining watching the dopes disgusted, ripping chip kelly because he passed on the top safety available… cant wait…
Yeah, I think your right in that is going to be what happens. They will freak even more when we get an OL. I think IF we do go WR in the first then the average fans will be fine with that.
yeah thats probably right… if we dont draft Mariota or Landon Collins, a WR is probably the only thing sexy enough to make the fanbase not flip out and rip chip kelly
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I cant wait to hear fans cry and rip the eagles because they rather go with Elliot Shor Parks, derreck gunn, and Mel Kipers opinion over Chip Kelly..LOL how does a fan prefer to go with Mike misinelli and Mel Kipers opinion over chip kelly and a paid scouting department?
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People just want a sexy pick. Even though one of the major reasons we had issues last year were due to age, lack of depth, and injury along the OL. Unfortunately the average fan wants pretty instead of the thing that your team really needs. Not to mention the fact that this draft is so deep at WR we can get a very talented one later. Maybe I’m to optimistic regarding Wolff, but I don’t see a clear upgrade that would be worth taking at 20 that fits our scheme in this draft.
“I think the Titanic had a 3 cone time of 8.04…”. THAT. Stuff like that right there keeps me coming back here day after day, year after year. Lmao!
Everytime I hear about Maxx Williams I have to think about this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3UMCVK1fr0c
I don’t think I understand how you’d confuse anybody appreciably by scheduling a visit from a day 3 project. Unless Chip and Ed have every round and every contingency mapped out, and that idea induces more fright than wonder.
With Poutasi, I’d guess the interest comes from the fact that he’s just 20 years old and I believe a junior entry. So they may see him as moldable upside.
Because I know you guys never get tired of these first pick mocks:
Your score is: 7002 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 2 Pick 13 (MINN): T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
Round 2 Pick 19 (HOU): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
Round 2 Pick 20: Quinten Rollins, CB, Miami (Ohio) (A-)
Round 3 Pick 12 (MINN): Hau’oli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Josh Shaw, CB/FS, Southern California (A-)
Round 4 Pick 16 (CLE): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 9: Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A-)
Round 6 Pick 20: Derrick Lott, DT, Chattanooga (A-)
Round 6 Pick 22 (ARI): Sean Hickey, OT, Syracuse (A)
Round 7 Pick 25 (CAR): Cedric Reed, DE/OLB, Texas (C+)
Round 7 Pick 31 (SEA): Dres Anderson, WR, Utah (A)
Traded 1-20 for 2-45, 2-51, 3-76
Traded 4-14 for 4-16, 6-22
Traded 7-20 for 7-25, 7-31
I know this is fun to do, but my biggest argument against putting forward multiple tradebacks (as our friend GEAGLE is wont to do) to accumulate picks is the rookie signing $$ pool.
That’s inconsequential. Only the top 51 players count against the salary cap in the offseason so when you add another pick their base salary cancels out with someone already in the top 51. Their only net affect on cap room is their pro-rated signing bonus which isn’t that large of an amount. Don’t confuse a team’s rookie pool with the cumulative cap effect of the rookies. Not the same thing. The rookie pool is basically a holdover from the prior CBA and was used to limit what rookies could be paid so veterans got paid more. Now that each draft pick has essentially a slotted bonus amount, the rookie cap pool is essentially pointless.
Not enough Conley and Byron Jones
Nice job. You didn’t take a single player I hate.
Conley is almost the complete package. He has the hands,athleticism and blocking but not the RAC skills. I’m completely fine with getting him in the 2nd round and even trading up for him if we have to. We also got a glimpse at how poor the Louiseville DBs are. Stay a planet away from Holliman please Chip.
anyone think CK trades up for Mariotta ?
I like Conley after Agholor, even though he has more size speed and Georgia didn’t pass as much as USC. He’s more raw, less special teams experience, didn’t establish himself as a no. 1, but a top stretch the field no. 2 that can do more than just run. If he falls to the 3rd that’d be a good pick. Taller than Devin Smith though Smith may be a more skilled deep threat.
There’s a bunch of guys rated 2-3 that I’d like if they fell. Also, in the late rounds, they could reunite Tre McBride with Jerome Couplin. A good guy for 7-FA to stash on IR is DeAndre Smelter, who can block, returning to the action just in time for the lower Riley cap hit. Devin Gardner may join the converted QB club as a FA.
I also like Tyler Lockett as a slot guy who can line up outside for a vertical route to stretch the field, if they can get him in the 3rd or thereafter.. he’d go well with what they have in that he’s different than them. Justin Hardy reminds me of Jason Avant, but I don’t know that Chip wants Jason Avant.
Jets made me give them #20, 2016 #1, and 2017 #1. I wonder if Kendricks would have gotten it done in lieu of one of the two non 2015 picks.
Round 1 Pick 6 (NYJ): Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A+)
Round 3 Pick 11 (N.O.): Ty Sambrailo, OT, Colorado State (B+)
Round 3 Pick 14 (N.O.): Clive Walford, TE, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 3 Pick 20: Hau’oli Kikaha, OLB/DE, Washington (A)
Round 3 Pick 26 (BALT): Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (A-)
Round 4 Pick 14: Mitch Morse, OT/OG, Missouri (B-)
Round 5 Pick 9: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A)
Round 5 Pick 20: Clayton Geathers, SS, UCF (A+)
Round 6 Pick 20: Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (B+)
Round 7 Pick 20: Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M (B)
Kendricks was a 2nd round pick to begin with. Hasn’t been amazing and now only has one year left.
Why would he be worth anywhere NEAR a 1st round pick?
I agree he isn’t worth a 1st but he is very good when he gets on the field. He has improved every year he has been in the league.
I bangs with it.
Not a big Smith fan, and switch out Zenner for John Crockett and I’d be all about that life.
T-Law:
In reviewing the list of prospects whom the Eagles have brought to the NovaCare complex, it seems that this season the Eagles are looking at a lot of mid to late round players as well as priority free agents as compared to last year. Again, at Novacare.
Do you think this is an accurate characterization?
If so, what would be your theory behind why so many lower around and free-agent type players were brought in this year?
dont we look at lots of mid round prospects and UDFA guys every year?
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I assume this regime will always strive to do as much due dilligence as possible. i doubt it will be much different next year
Here’s T-Law’s compilation of last year’s group of NovaCare visitors — which seems to be far more top heavy on quality players:
http://igglesblitz.com/2014/05/08/
PLAYERS THAT HAVE VISITED PHILLY
* WR Mike Evans – Texas A&M – 6-5, 231
* WR Maqise Lee – USC – 6-0, 199
* WR Kelvin Benjamin – FSU – 6-5, 240
* WR Cody Latimer – Indiana – 6-2, 215
* WR Odell Beckham – LSU – 5-11, 198
* WR Kevin Norwood – Alabama – 6-2, 199
* OG Trey Hopkins – Texas – 6-3, 305
* OG Spencer Long – Nebraska – 6-5, 320
* OC/OG Marcus Martin – USC – 6-3, 310
* DE Taylor Hart – Oregon – 6-6, 284
* LB Jeremiah Attaochu – Georgia Tech – 6-3, 252
* LB Anthony Barr – UCLA – 6-5, 255
* LB Marcus Smith – Louisiville – 6-3, 251
* LB Larry Webster – Bloomsburg – 6-6, 252
* ILB Jordan Tripp – Montana – 6-3, 234
* ILB Christian Kirksey – Iowa – 6-2, 233
* ILB Telvin Smith – Florida State – 6-3, 218
* CB Aaron Colvin – Oklahoma – 6-0, 186
* CB Jaylen Watkins – Florida – 6-0, 194
* CB Dontae Johnson – NC State – 6-2, 200
* S Deone Bucannon – Washington State – 6-1, 216
* S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix – Alabama – 6-1, 208
ok…..
I think that is where coaches and assistants really sweat the hours. They all know that there are UDFA’s throughout the league, and some of them are going to rise to be starters, and some will become stars, like Jason Peters. Scrutinizing ALL of the second-look players is probably the definition of tedium, but man, it must feel great to sign a walk-on to a multi-year contract.
cedrick Thornton…. come on down…
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Before last years draft, I had us signing Beau Allen as a UDFA.. would have been a stud find… certainly cant complain about spending a 7th to secure him
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Trey Burton, UDFA who could find a longterm home in Philly… wonder if we sign his baby brother to a UDFA 90 man roster contract since we only have 3 TE’s and we will need more TE bodies in camp? Trey is the smaller, more athletic TE.. his little brother is bigger, stronger, better blocker..stylistically it makes sense to take a look at THAT type of TE with Celeks time winding down… I’ll go with Clay Burton as our UDFA signing this year… whether he ends up making the 53 man roster, is another story…. wish we could trade for Travis Kelce..
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who was the UDFA WR we all liked in chip’s first draft 2013? might have went to LSU maybe? he told the media that we talked to him before the draft was over or somethng that he wasnt supposed to say? worked with Jason Avant after practice on the Jugg Machine? what was his name, and has he gone on to make anyone else’s roster?
Russell Shepherd, he’s in Tampa
Historically, we haven’t done very well in the late rounds of the draft compared to a team like Seattle. It could simply be Chip identifying a weakness and allocating more resources to fix it.
Or if you listen to WIP, it’s totally for Mariota.
Agree 100%. The best drafting teams not only hit early, but get good players late in the draft as well.
Often, the primary reason a player is brought into Novacare is because they have medical issues that the team wants to check out.
Here’s T-Law’s compilation of last year’s group of NovaCare visitors — which seems to be far more top heavy on quality players:
http://igglesblitz.com/2014/05/eagles-draft-preview/
PLAYERS THAT HAVE VISITED PHILLY
* WR Mike Evans – Texas A&M – 6-5, 231
* WR Maqise Lee – USC – 6-0, 199
* WR Kelvin Benjamin – FSU – 6-5, 240
* WR Cody Latimer – Indiana – 6-2, 215
* WR Odell Beckham – LSU – 5-11, 198
* WR Kevin Norwood – Alabama – 6-2, 199
* OG Trey Hopkins – Texas – 6-3, 305
* OG Spencer Long – Nebraska – 6-5, 320
* OC/OG Marcus Martin – USC – 6-3, 310
* DE Taylor Hart – Oregon – 6-6, 284
* LB Jeremiah Attaochu – Georgia Tech – 6-3, 252
* LB Anthony Barr – UCLA – 6-5, 255
* LB Marcus Smith – Louisiville – 6-3, 251
* LB Larry Webster – Bloomsburg – 6-6, 252
* ILB Jordan Tripp – Montana – 6-3, 234
* ILB Christian Kirksey – Iowa – 6-2, 233
* ILB Telvin Smith – Florida State – 6-3, 218
* CB Aaron Colvin – Oklahoma – 6-0, 186
* CB Jaylen Watkins – Florida – 6-0, 194
* CB Dontae Johnson – NC State – 6-2, 200
* S Deone Bucannon – Washington State – 6-1, 216
* S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix – Alabama – 6-1, 208
We drafted three of those guys on the list. Realistically we had a shot at most of them except for ODB, Evans, and Barr (if we really wanted them).
Not on T-law’s list (it may not have been complete when he posted it last year) . . . Jordan Matthews.
That’s 4 of the Eagles first 5 picks on the list. Missing is Huff at no. 3 because, you know . . . and Hart’s on the list only because of his foot injury, I’d wager.
Pick No. 6 last year (second 5th Rd pick) is Ed Reynolds. And last choice was Beau Allen.
I think part of it may be the new decision makers trying a different approach.
The scouts know the guys that will go in the top 100 inside and out. They’ve probably had multiple area scouts and cross-checkers write reports on them.
The later round guys are really the difference between a good draft and a great draft. Just look at 2011. Even if you whiff your early picks if you can get a Ced Thorton and Kelce late, you found 2 starters, which makes it an ok draft.
Ideally you would like to get 2 starters, a rotational guy, and a couple of depth/developmental/ST guys every year. If you can get a couple of late rounders who can develop for a year and become contributors, then it really can help turn a draft into a homerun.
joe banner is currently on the OUTSIDE THE LINES talking about Jameis Winston and how he wouldnt be comfortable drafting him,
He is a great follow on twitter – very candid and insightful.
Easy to be candid when you’re not being paid by any of the teams.
True, and a good reason to hope he enjoys his “retirement” and continues to remain a spectator.
He works for the Falcons in some capacity.
He was a consultant for them and his consulting contract might have expired. Not a full-time gig.
Quick thought about something. Tell me what you think. Is it possible that the Eagles may be wanting to go with slightly bigger more mauler types of OGs this year and in the future? We all just assume the FO wants the more athletic type, but recent evidence may be proving otherwise. First we got more 1 cut power runners, admittedly that doesn’t mean alot on its own. However if you look at alot of the recent pre-draft visits you see alot of the bigger OGs being talked to. Factor in the cutting of Herremans and attempts to trade Mathis. Yes, I know there is alot more to do with Mathis and Herremans then fit, but if you look at everything together it may point to a different type of OG this season and in the future. Opinions?
here’s a nice way of figuring it, to the best of my limited knowledge:
If the guard can run the inside zone, that’s a big plus
if the guard can run the outside zone, that’s a big plus.
if the guard can run both, that’s a really big plus.
Move guy, power guy? Doesn’t matter unless it impacts the above paradigm.
I agree. However I think instead of getting a Fisher type player who is extremely athletic they may be looking at more of a Clemmings type player, who while is athletic is not the same level of Fisher. He won’t be running down the field like Fisher but he would be better at man handling the guy in front of him, and better in short yardage scenarios. There are alot of people out there saying Fisher would be perfect for our system, but it may be looking like Chip wants to add some serious power and beef in the middle.
doubt it… no need for a mauler in our run scheme, when so often our run scheme requires combo blocks where the guard is double teaming a defender.. Mauler isnt as important in the run game if he is getting constant double team help against a defensive tackle, after the initial combo block, “the mauler” would have to peel off the combo block and go hunting for LB and safeties to block at the second level, THUS the importance of athleticism and agility with our Big boys…. what good is a mauler, if he cant keep up with Lane, and Kelce blocking down field?
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athleticism is always going to be very important for our run schemen and all the screens and quick hitters we run… and you might give a “mauler” a heart attack if you ask him to consistantly play and practice at our break neck tempo..
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i so much rather eliminate the guess work of how a 300lb plus man will handle transitioning to our game and practice pace…and draft a highly rated talent who became a highly rated talent playing and practicing similar to what we would ask of him..
Let me clarify. I agree with you. When I say Mailer I don’t mean a 340lb beast whose game is based all on power and no athleticism. I am talking of someone like Clemmings who still has some athleticism.
I LIKE CLEMMINGS..i just dont like him enough to guess and assume he can handle playing and practicing at our pace full time and still play at a high level when there are other highly graded options who we know for a fact can handle our unique practice/game tempo and flourish in it..
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I would Need to be getting someone a level above Fisher for me to think its worth gambling on the unknown..
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all the ducks chip added these past two years, I dont think his familiarity with any of our ducks is more valuable then the familiarity of knowing a 300lb man can flourish in his tempo… clemmings and Fisher will have similar grades… I would need to be getting a Tier above fishers talent to piss away the luxury and advantage of knowing exactly what the kid can and can not handle….. for example, I would need a talent like Brandon Sherff to think its worth gambling on how a 300lb man can handle our tempo… even if Clemmings has a higher grade then fisher, it wont be a significantly higher grade worth pissing away what our coach knows as a sure thing to gamble on a 315lb slob being able to play and practice in a system best described as “Football on Meth”…
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but I certainly dont mind ending up with Clemmings, kid is a nice talent, I just dont believe chip will pick him with Fisher still on the board, but we will know in 10 days for sure…. feels so good to be able to say that
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I haven’t seen one mock where Fisher is higher than Clemmings, but, Kelly’s board is the one that matters. If player visits are any indication, Chip may be looking for OL help on day 3. Terry Poole and Jeremiah Poutasi are names we aren’t likely to hear days one or two.
even if they draft an OL early, i wouldnt be surprised if they drafted a 2nd one later….
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all i really care about is that if we stay at #20, we get a legit top 15 talent that we didnt count on falling to #20… if not, trade back and then draft whoever the hell they want…Personally there is no difference drafting someone at #25 and who you get at #37, so if Im going to have to chose a kid with a 2nd round grade, might as well trade back to beginning of round 2, and get two extra draft picks in the process…
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If we get to #20, AND Fisher and TJ are still both available, Id be pretty annoyed if we drafted either. if both are on the board, you have to trade back get an extra pick, good chance one is still avaiable
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A) never said I think Fisher is graded higher then TJ
B) couldnt care less what any mock says…
Clemmings looks every bit the part to me. He’s a former basketball player, so I don’t think his athleticism is an issue. He gets mixed marks on his pass pro posture and technique, but that is what I read 5 or 6 weeks ago. He’s been rated round 1 for months now, so maybe his pass blocking is better than I read it was. As far as zone blocking, getting downfield, they look like his strengths, and since he’s a smaller OL, adjusting to the pace should not be a strain. Fisher, on the other hand is used to the tempo, but his pass blocking has been dissed too. For run blocking punisher, Clemmings gets more drive off the snap.
I think you’re short selling Clemmings on his athleticism. Guy is studly in space.
The two guys they seem to like who don’t really seem to fit are Donovan Smith and Poutasi, both of which are probably 3rd-5th rounders. With them I think it’s more of what they tried to do with Bamiro where they find a massive dude they like and try to coax some extra athleticism out.
Do you think he would have stamina issues playing in our high tempo O like some believe? Even if he may coming straight out of college he will have opportunity to get into better shape. I myself really like the guy. I’m aware that Clemmings is athletic. I’m not dismissing that in anyway. What I’m saying is that Fisher is more athletic. Does Chip prefer the highly athletic Fisher or the more powerful slightly less athletic Clemmings? That’s what I am asking. None of us truly know for obvious reasons, but I think its possible to say that maybe due to recent looks at players and other player transitions that he may prefer the more powerful OG. This is just pure speculation.
The stamina stuff is a non issue. No one reputable thinks it will be. He has a background as a b-ball player and as a DE, both groups are notoriously well conditioned. Dude is like 10% body fat. He could have an 8 pack in three weeks if he wanted to. I’ve played in up-tempo, and I’ve played in take the ball out of the air systems, the conditioning factor is overstated.
There will be an adjustment period to it, but by the third week of camp it won’t even be a thing. We’re not talking about Max-Jean Gilles or Nick Cole.
Ideally, they want a guy that is massive, strong, and athletic.
Byron Maxwell vs. Nnamdi Asomogua….
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both were considered the top CB available on the free agent market when we broke up the piggy bank to sign them..
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Nnamdi became this highly touted CB with a reputation that he was so good that teams refused to throw his way, i remember how confused I was when I saw Eli manning throwing at him as if he was a joke… we signed Nnamdi thinking we were getting a stud who would shut down half the field and QBs avoided throwing his way….. after that experience, maybe we want to see our CB’s actually tested before we decide that they are so good to back the brinks truck up to their house
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fast forward to 2015, enter the self proclaimed “prettiest girl at the dance” Byron Maxwell, who for us is sort of the ANTI Nnamdi signing… NO ONE can say Byron hasnt been tested.. the fact that he is the most battle tested member of the Legion of Boom is what I love so much about him and what makes me comfortable with making him a very rich man… This kid is a competitor, and he is stepping out of the shadow of Sherman and Earl, and has a chance to now make his mark as the top dog on a good defense..
Signing byron is like the opposite of signing someone who teams wouldnt throw at; cant ask for a more battle tested high level CB..
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“According to a study done by Football Perspective, Richard Sherman was the least targeted cornerback in the NFL last season.
The ball was thrown in his direction 65 times on 552 passing plays, 25.5 fewer times than the average corner. This confirms Sherman is still the most feared corner in football. Even NFL MVP Aaron Rodgers steered clear of Sherman, avoiding him completely in a Week 1 loss. The Legion of Boom lost Byron Maxwell, but as long as Sherman, Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor are around, the Seahawks will have one of the league’s most impenetrable secondaries.”-roto world…
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So basically we signed the starting outside CB who played across from the least targeted CB in the NFL last year. To make Matters worse, Sherman doesnt move around. He stays on his side all game no matter who lines up in front of him… so not only where teams not throwing at Sherman, often they would stick their most talented WR in front of Byron Maxwell, and he still had a fantastic year playing his way to the top CB spot of the free agent market
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after Nnamdi debacle, i cant express how appreciative I am of a CB who is so battle tested… hopefully Byron Maxwell finally will be worthy of playing CB in a city with such a rich history of talented CB’s…
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and If Walter Thurmond stays healthy I can see him prove to be a steal. Lacks the ideal height we like on the outside, but “he might have the longest arms of anyone I have ever seen his size”-Maragos on Thurmond…
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My favorite thing about our secondary is Byron, Walter, Boykin, Nolan, Watkins and even our friggin Safety Malcolm Jenkins can ALL lineup at outside CB OR Slot CB, which should give us a ton of versatility and come in very handy against uptempo offenses that dont let us substitute…
Think Maxwell is 3 years younger than Nnamdi was when we signed him.
wasnt Nnamdi 30, 31yr old already when we signed him? Mad Max is def younger
To win a superbowl you have to have a stretch of 4-5 years of Quality drafts. If you can go on a run of good drafts, you will have a contender on your hands sooner or later, and I think we may take for granted a bit how well the last we drafts have been. The Jury is still out of a few key draft picks last year but way too soon to rule any of them out. If the 2014 picks start to realize their potential and we have a strong 2015 draft, we wont be too far away from having a contender on our hands.. The ONLY way is to put together 3, 4, 5 quality drafts in a row, and we are more then half way there.. I dont think the eagles got proper credit for how they have drafted since 2012…
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when was the last first round pick the entire city was happy with? I guess Lane Johnson? when Miami traded up for Dion, I think the city was at peace with Lane…No? Fletcher Cox was a homerun and the fanbase knew it the moment we drafted him…
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we put together a few nice drafts in a row, once all these kids grow up, with another nice draft or two we should have a contender on our hands…
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1st Round picks:
.-2012) looks to be one of the most dominated players under the age of 25 in the entire NFL.. Fletcher Cox, the star of our defense who’s best ball is still ahead of him…scary thought
-2013) Lane Johnson, who is already grading out as one of the very best RT in the NFL which is friggin scary to think how good he is already considering how DAMN raw he was when we drafted him two years ago…
-2014) Marcus Smith… remains to be seen
-2015) ???
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RD 2:
-2012) “sackmaster” Vinny Curry and Mykal Kendricks young playmaker
-2013) Zack Ertz.. young Star, we havent seen anything yet when it comes to him. he will be special
-2014) Pope jordan… very promising young player
-2015) ???
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RD 3:
-2012)Nick Foles… steal, who we traded for the highest rated QB prospect besides andrew Luck of the past 5 years..
-2013) Bennie Logan, year 2 led NT’s in Tackles and is one of the few NT’s who actually gets pressure on QBs…round 3 STEAL!
-2014) Josh Huff remains to be seen
-2015) ???
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another quality draft and we could have a real nice roster on our hands once our puppies grow up..
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If we can keep our QB safe, it will be the steal of the offseason. Im convinced Sam and Chip could be great together. Sam hasnt had a coach in the NFL who does as much for QB’s as chip does. we saw it with Mark Sanchez as soon as he got to philly, he was blown away, performed well right away in training camp and the preseason… instantly we saw how much better chip was for sanchez then any offensive coach he had in the NFL and we are talking about a kid who played on a team that went to the AFC championship..
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Sam Bradford just ended up with the one coach in the NFL that will tailor his offense around Sam and put him in positions that closely resemble the offense he was in at Oklohoma that Sam Grew into an elite QB prospect playing in…Jeff Fisher BETTER HOPE Sam cant stay healthy because Chip is going to screw up Fishers reputation with how great Bradford and chip will be together if they can keep this kid healthy..
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IT’s risky, but I really has the potential to go down in history as a special move that changed our franchise. I cant wait to see Sam back in the shotgun, with Demarco pounding the ball behind a top OL, moving the chains so we can wear teams down with our tempo and his physical style of running more then we ever have since chip arrived, providing some big play opportunities off play action to the Pope,or Bradford throws a nice Seam Pass, should turn Ertz into a scary weapon running down the Seam..
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and its awesome that Bradford will have a safety net like Ertz and Sproles to throw to….
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if we can have a healthy season similar to 2013, this team should be a significant improvement over last years team. Just our defenses improved ability to get off the field on 3rd down should be a huge improvement..
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Cant wait to see Sam Play…. also, Sanchez didnt get to enjoy a healthy OL and a potent run game like 2013 when our OL was healthy.. Sanchez is also getting year two continuity in this scheme.,.. Sanchez wont ever be the starting solution, but I wouldnt be surprised if he hasnt played his best ball as an eagle yet… Hopefully we only see it in the preseason because Bradford becomes a “beacon of durability” lol…
This probably is not a popular sentiment, but I would love it if one of the top 6 WR dropped to 20 and Kelly picked him round 1. Top 3 will never drop that far, but Perriman, Strong or Agholor could. If not there, at least 2nd or 3rd, and hopefully it is an eventual starter.
i wouldnt complain… I was just thinking about the one thing that could make me more excited about next years team would be still having Maclin.Sanchez noodle arm couldnt use Maclin, Bt Bradford has all the arm talent to use Maclin… Maclin is the one loss that still hurts, so I wouldnt at all mind to see us replace him with a serious WR talent in round 1… especially since WR’s are becoming easier to draft, they dont bust as much as they used to…. would Love to draft a #1 WR talent early… and not for nothing, but if I needed to pick 1 position to find a starter in rounds 4 OR 5, i would probably assume, Guard or RB is my best bet to find a starter in the middle rounds,
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Im all about my defense, so I will always be happy to see us dump first round picks into the defense, but surprisingly Im really excited about next year defense to the point where Im fine giving the 1st round pick to the offense, ESPECIALLY since we have a QB we need to put in the best situation possible to succeed…
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I will NEVER complain if they end up adding a defender like Oklahoma NT Jordan Phillips, since Bennie can easily move to DE…and I sure as hell wouldnt mind draftinG Byron.. let him compete at safety next year and eventually move him to CB.. I would NEVER pass on Bud Dupree, you just dont pass on edge rushers like him but he wont ever last til #20..
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and if im not getting a defender, my attention turns to spending a first round pick giving Bradford a better chance of succeeding.. OL and WR fits that bill….
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all I ask is that if we stay at #20, its ONLY because we ended up getting a top 15 talent that was too talented to pass on, if not, try to trade back to like #25 and then draft your OL or WR, or even trade back a 2nd time and make your first pick at the beginning of round 2, while adding two extra 3rds, or a 3rd and a late 2nd… figure someone will want to trade back into the end of round 1 to draft Hundley.. if we cant get a kid with a top 15 grade, then trade back and let a team move up for Hundley like we let the Browns trade up last year for Johnny Jackass
If it was up to me I’d make a move for Parker I think he may be the best wr in the class
Eagles signing Tebow tomorrow per Glazer. Other teams’ fans will have fun with this but it’s signing a street free agent who had a good workout. No big deal one way or the other.
Sweet more competition for the QB backups.. Like it
As poor as this draft is at QB, Tebow may be better than anyone outside of Mariota/Winston.
The only person that agrees with you is 2010 Josh McDaniels.
That’s Mr. Defending Super Bowl Champion Offensive Coordinator McDaniels for you.
2010 McDaniels? No, he was the guy that drafted Tebow 3 rounds too early!
And Tebows mom
Chip has a sick sense of Humor.
Tebow completely undermined Sanchize in NY and now they are re-united in Phili.
Well played Chipper. Well played.
This signing is so bad on so many levels… Phili talk radio will be a complete SH*T STORM on Monday.
Me I am numb. The Eagles have signed every player I hate in the NFL not named Romo.
Mike Vick
Mark Sanchez
Tim Tebow
Miles Austin
Who is next? Lets get Michael “Mouth” Irvin and Heath “Meathead” Evans to come out of retirement and sign them too!
How did Tebow undermine Sanchez? Perhaps the act of the Jets acquiring Tebow undermined Sanchez but what did Tebow purposefully do to try to undermine Sanchez? As far as what Phil talk radio is like – WHO FRICKING CARES? The second you start basing your personnel decisions on the opinions of the public is the second you need to be replaced.
Don’t be a Tebow apologist he is a distraction and a bad QB. Sanchez sucks. The only guy more likely to throw a game killing interception on planet earth is Tim Tebow.
As for the undermine. The media frenzy that follows Tebow around is more distracting than Megan Fox with a six pack of pudding and a bag of Funions. As a starting QB last thing you want to talk about is the backup. Now we have captain ACL, a career backup and a fullback as our QBs. Our only hope is Marcus Mariota or his clone…
How is the media going to be a distraction when Chip barely talks to them and only grants them access to the first 10 minutes of practice? And much more importantly are we talking about Megan Fox with a six pack of pudding and bag of Funyuns or covered only with the contents of a six pack of pudding and rolling around over a bag’s worth of Funyuns?
Contents? Oh now that is completely distracting… I just forgot the Eagles signed Tebow as our 5th string QB (king klipboard holder)
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Disagree. Taking direct snap under center on 2-point attempts counts.
The only move I dislike this season. Lol
Wait why are fans getting their undies in a twist over the Tebow signing? lol Hes not here to start most probably compete against Barkley?? So a 3rd string signing n its a problem??
Because I don’t like him. I don’t like the attention he brings and I don’t like the fact that he calls himself a qb but he can’t throw a ball.
But thats what he did training under that QB guru was improve his mechanics n throwing?? Thats why Chip saw enough n was impressed enough to sign him.. The attention n spotlight he brings only matters if you make it matter.. If he makes the roster that attention will go away coz no one wants to talk about the 3rd string inactive on gamedays QB right??
I won’t listen to your reason because I’m blinded by my hatred.
haha when the hatred clears up you will see the light
No. It won’t clear, I don’t like him and I never will.
Its ok im sure Tebow will like you no matter the feelings towards him lol Just playing with ya man haha Ah well hes an Eagle now
Isn’t this exactly what NE did with him? Bring him in to camp, let him practice, no promises made? It turned out okay for them.
So, you’re saying that when Tebow comes into a camp and gets cut, we win a Super Bowl a year later? Well, heck, set me up!
And the hatred melts away…
I will never complain about a boring off season again.
I will never complain about a boring off season again.
I will never complain about a boring off season again.
I will never complain about a boring off season again.
I have been away all day. This is the first comment I see as I scroll to the comments. I am afraid.
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