Shady’s Feelings Got Hurt

Posted: April 7th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 255 Comments »

LeSean McCoy isn’t happy with Chip Kelly.

Jeff McLane spoke to Shady yesterday and got this quote.

“I don’t think he likes or respects the stars. I’m being honest,” McCoy told The Inquirer on Monday. “I think he likes the fact that it’s ‘Chip Kelly and the Eagles.’ “

Wow. Tell us how you really feel.

Then McCoy talked about Kelly’s explanation for the trade (money) vs Jeff Lurie’s explanation (running style).

“I read what he said in the media and I agree with it,” McCoy said of Lurie’s comments. “There’s nothing wrong with that. Chip felt like I wasn’t a fit for his offense. But why not say that?

“It’s hard to say that because if you turn on that tape when that [offense] isn’t going I make that [stuff] happen. You see, he can’t say that. But I think that’s how he felt.”

Kelly was trying to be protective of Shady. Ugh.

Kelly didn’t want to say something negative about his former player so he focused on the financial side of things. In Kelly’s mind, that was taking the high road and being supportive. If Kelly goes out there and talks about how Shady dances too much, that’s going to open a can of worms.

Players don’t like to leave a good situation. I don’t blame Shady for not being thrilled with things. It’s just funny to hear Kelly is anti-star. Something tells me he’d take Aaron Rodgers, Calvin Johnson or Adrian Peterson in the blink of an eye. I doubt Kelly would see JJ Watt is a guy he wanted nothing to do with.

Kelly wanted to change things. Shady wasn’t part of that plan. It just happens.

* * * * *

Jimmy Bama wrote a good piece on the Eagles and age. The Eagles have 10 players age 30 or above, which is one of the highest totals in the league. Still, it’s not as bad as it sounds. 2 of them are the P and LS. Miles Austin, Brandon Bair and Allen Barbre are also on that list. Very expendable guys. The point is…this isn’t like Chip Kelly has let the whole team get old all at once (see the Giants of a couple of years ago).

Good nugget here.

• There’s a notion that the Eagles got older this offseason. That simply isn’t true. As noted above, the Eagles subtracted five players over the age of 30 this offseason. They only added one, Miles Austin.

Read the whole piece. Jimmy is the master of rosters and age.

Imagine if he ever writes about the Eagles media. Between Les, Roob and Domo…they go through Geritol like I do Funyuns.

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The Eagles are showing interest in late round OLB prospect Obum Gwacham. He started off as a WR at Oregon State and eventually moved to defense. He’s raw, but has good size and serious athletic ability. The Eagles recently brought him to Philly and he wrote about the trip.

It was different. I didn’t really get a chance to explore the city too much. I got in, I woke up the next morning, met with the coaches, met with some of the other staff members. We did a little training exercise and a few other tests. Then, we got in the room with the linebackers coach, Coach (Bill) McGovern, and he went through some of the defensive plays with me. We had lunch, I came back later and met back with him and went through some film and kind of (went through) the plays that he taught me. After that, met with some other staff members, got a Philly cheese steak and was back in Oregon the next minute. It was a pretty quick, efficient trip.

It was my first time (at an NFL facility) and I was taking it all in. It was definitely a lot different. Walking around, there were a ton of Hall of Famers on the wall, a lot of old guys that have played in the league showing up on the wall. It’s just crazy walking by and seeing that they walked through those halls, as well.

They see me as a 3-4 linebacker. Just going through some of the film, it’s definitely I’d feel like I’d be very comfortable doing. Because I’ll show up on the line and then occasionally I’ll be dropping into coverage. It’s definitely that I’ve been working on and not something that I’m too worried about.

A few questions they asked was just would I play against certain things an offensive tackle might do to me or certain blocks an offensive lineman might do to me. I feel like I gave them the right answers, because they were nodding their heads and agreeing with me on those.

I felt like they’re the knd of staff I’d like to be around. When I was with Coach McGovern, I feel like I picked up the same vibe as when I took my visit to Oregon State. Everyone was very welcoming. Everyone there, they went out of their way to introduce themselves to me and all that. Coach McGovern, he seems like a very good coach. He seems like the kind of coach that I’d want coaching me.

Nothing really caught me off-guard. Going into it, I spoke to my agent and he kind of told me what to expect. And then the night before, I was given an itinerary with the activities that we would be doing. So I wouldn’t say anything really caught me off-guard. Going into it, Coach McGovern said they weren’t going to try to trick me.

They basically just told me to stay in football shape, because it’s gonna come really quick. As soon as the draft happens, it’s going to be the next season the next moment. Keep working out and not get out of shape. And when I do start learning all the stuff, I need to be very, very smart and comfrotable with it, because I’ll be coming in and trying to earn one of the veterans’ spots. That’s probably going to be a guy that’s been there for a while and has probably got the playbook down pat. Me, on the other hand, I don’t, so (McGovern) basically told me I need to really compete, because in order to make the team, you’ve got to take someone’s job. I told him I’m willing to do it. I’m definitely willing to work and put forth the effort in order to make that happen.

Gwacham would be a really interesting late round pick. He’s 6-5, 246. Runs 4.72 in the 40. 22 reps, despite having long arms. 36-inch vertical. Lacks ideal agility, but has good potential.

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255 Comments on “Shady’s Feelings Got Hurt”

  1. 1 Avery Greene said at 8:41 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I don’t think he’d want AP that much, or at least with his current contract.

  2. 2 myartz04 said at 8:41 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    When he pops off at the mouth like that, all he is really doing is making Chip’s point. If you don’t buy in, and go voicing your displeasure, you are gone. It’s as simple as that. And Tommy, those guys you mentioned are FOOTBALL stars…Shady is a very good player but also wants to be a celebrity. Chip doesn’t want celebrities.

  3. 3 Avery Greene said at 8:43 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I agree, which is why I find the Manziel stories pretty funny. He’s the anti-CK culture.

  4. 4 myartz04 said at 10:03 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    The literal exact opposite of a Chip guy.

  5. 5 GEAGLE said at 10:05 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    i refuse to even read the “Manziel/eagle stories”… these media clowns dont know what to invent next…. first we are trading away 8 first rounders, 6 2nd rounders, two 4ths, Kendricks, Cox, The rights to the Franchise name Eagles for Mariota… and now, back to Chip Kellys “wet dream”, the great Johnny Jackass…

    only in todays media….

  6. 6 anon said at 9:46 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    yeah star vs celeb. i appreciate shady wanting to be told straight like a man what the deal was. shady has been the core of the eagles since he was drafted, but bills’ camp has started he’s gotta do something different.

  7. 7 myartz04 said at 10:03 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    He wants to be treated like a man, yet has dodged two of Chips phone calls. Shady is like a 7th grade girl in the body of an NFL running back.

  8. 8 anon said at 10:54 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    what’s chip going to say really?

  9. 9 Weapon Y said at 11:42 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Yeah this point really shows Shady is a jackass. Chip goes out of his way to talk to him, Shady refuses to answer the call, and then complains about getting no explanation.

  10. 10 Avery Greene said at 8:45 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Can someone speak to a question I have? So Gwacham spoke about the coaches impressing upon him to stay in shape through the draft.

    Is it common for rookies and others to come in out of shape to the mini-camps? Is year round fitness/staying in shape not a priority for a lot of the players (including around the league)?

  11. 11 Iskar36 said at 9:16 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think the distinction is football shape vs staying in shape. Players stay in shape year round, but there is an added intensity once training camp starts and then the season begins. Once the season starts, players are practicing, working out, and playing every single day for significant amounts of time each day. In the offseason, they will work out and stay in shape, but the urgency isn’t there At the same level. So I think what he is saying is that training camp and the season comes up quick so it is important to sense that urgency and get ready for it ahead of time.

  12. 12 CrackSammich said at 10:49 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    If there’s one time of year prospects could slack off, it’s between their pro day/private workouts and OTAs. I imagine that a lot do. The other problem is that none of them are in football shape–they’re in combine shape. Some of those exercises might help with their game, but for the most part, it’s a different skill set.

  13. 13 Jernst said at 12:26 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    You’re dealing with 20 year old kids that are surrounded by college aged friends that want to drink and party and go on spring break. There’s no organized team practices and workouts to keep them on track. Classes are mostly finished. And, everyone wants to soak up the last few weeks of college. I imagine it’s easier to fall out of football shape than people think.

  14. 14 D3FB said at 5:22 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I don’t think it’s common but alot of these guys are
    1. Not at school anymore, so they are back at home so they are working out at globo gyms, not full on training complexes like they had at college
    2. Have just trained 4-8 hours a day for the last 3 months
    3. Probably haven’t been able to rest up any lingering bumps and bruises from the

    So while I don’t think anyone would go play Xbox and gain 25lbs in the month between pro days and the draft, I think you could see guys who show up to OTA’s and have an extra 3-4 lbs and while their cardio may be fine their anaerobic conditioning may not be there.

  15. 15 Gary Barnes said at 9:03 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Shady needs to let it go; he is making himself look bad and, as others have stated, proving one reason why the Eagles traded him away. If I am Rex, I pull him aside and say you’re on the Bills now, shut up about Kelly and the Eagles and do your job. If the media asks you about it, say no comment, simple as that. I understand that his pride is hurt and he’s trying to “save face” by painting Chip out to be the bad guy, but at the end of the day no one cares who’s “fault” it was…do your job well in Buffalo and shut up

  16. 16 ian_no_2 said at 10:16 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    If I am Shady, I pull Rex aside and say you’re on the Bills now, shut up…. do your job well in Buffalo and shut up

  17. 17 GEAGLE said at 10:21 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    rex is the last NFL coach that will tell his players to shut up… who knows what those blowhards will be saying the week leading up to the eagles game

  18. 18 Ray888 said at 11:18 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Or vice versa.

  19. 19 GermanEagle said at 9:17 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    The Eagles offseason can’t get any Biggers than this.

  20. 20 Avery Greene said at 9:32 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Makes me wonder if they are trying to move Boykin.

  21. 21 GermanEagle said at 9:43 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    You mean like ‘replacing Boykin with someone Biggers than him’?! Yes, makes sense!!!

  22. 22 Ray888 said at 11:21 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Done well! Or is it well done?

  23. 23 James said at 11:43 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    clap clap clap clap

  24. 24 Avery Greene said at 9:41 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    In case people don’t get the reference:

    Free-agent CB E.J. Biggers is visiting the Eagles today.— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 7, 2015

  25. 25 Bert's Bells said at 9:46 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    This move would be perfectly cromulent.

  26. 26 Avery Greene said at 9:47 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    With these school-words. Us types down here in the south don’t understand such things…

  27. 27 GermanEagle said at 10:11 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Thank you, Miss Hoover.

  28. 28 phillychuck said at 9:28 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    “He’s not the bad dude everybody makes him out to be. He’s just different. But I don’t really have any hate for him. I really don’t. In the beginning I did, but I don’t.”

    What’s that about?

    1. Everybody says he’s a bad dude? The players say that? Really?

    2. In the beginning Shady hated him? Why? Because he made him drink smoothies?

  29. 29 anon said at 9:42 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    think no. 2 is right after he got traded, maybe?

  30. 30 Avery Greene said at 9:38 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    We should give McCoy some more cheese for that wine.

    “Here is more of a NFL type of feel,” McCoy told NFL Media’s Kimberly Jones on NFL Network’s NFL Total Access. “Being with Coach (Andy) Reid for so long … you get used to that. A player’s coach. An NFL type of atmosphere in the locker room and around the facility. And for two years in Philly it wasn’t like that as much. Not in a negative way, but it was different. It was more like a college feel.”

  31. 31 GEAGLE said at 10:07 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    college feel? as in a unified, close knit team? what a horrible concept at the pro level…. funny how guys like Barwin, Ced, Maragos and Kelce LOVE IT HERE, and how butthurt shady is to be gone…. which i understand, but when you make it ALL ABOUT the money, and INSIST on being paid an insane amount for your position, you have to understand and accept the business side of it,,, i dont mind you demanding your 11 mil, just dont cry me a river when a team doesnt want to pay that much for a RB, after you publically stated you wont take a pay cut…. thats your right, but dont cry when you end up in Buffalo
    and you sound ridiculous bitching about star power when you got replaced by the #1 RB in the NFL last year, not exactly filling your shoes with some journeymen scrub

  32. 32 myartz04 said at 10:19 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    NFL feel=VIP parties, expensive alcohol, hookers, no tips.

  33. 33 GEAGLE said at 10:19 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    dont forget about Taco tuesdays and Viking Sex Boats!!!

  34. 34 myartz04 said at 10:21 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think I always secretly hated Shady. For these kinds of reasons. I LOVED Westbrook and Staley…just have never felt the same about Shady.

  35. 35 GEAGLE said at 10:22 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    honestly, i have secretly hoped for him to miss a game or two because of injuries so I could get an extended look at Polk behind our OL…

  36. 36 myartz04 said at 10:22 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Looks like I wasn’t the only one glad that Polk was getting the red zone touches.

  37. 37 anon said at 10:53 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    wow yall sound like shady. it’s shame he’s been so durable. polk couldn’t handle the workload.

  38. 38 Weapon Y said at 11:45 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Yeah I agree. It was easy to overlook the obvious signs that he is a jackass in real life when he was a stud for us.

  39. 39 Ben Hert said at 12:39 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Demarco Murray bought his linemen computers the year he won the rushing title. What did Shady buy his?

  40. 40 ACViking said at 12:56 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    McCoy doesn’t tip.

  41. 41 76mustang said at 10:24 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    He forgot to spew about Chip Kelly being racist.

  42. 42 Bert's Bells said at 9:44 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    To quote myself: McCoy now knows what it feels like to be kicked from the party van to side of the turnpike.

  43. 43 anon said at 9:49 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    holmes is just signing his tender now, i can’t believe no other team wanted to even talk to him. i guess raiders would have just matched since this have a ton of cap space.

  44. 44 anon said at 9:50 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson said diabetes affected his play last season.

  45. 45 James said at 11:40 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Unfortunately he cant pop skittles all game like Lynch does. Though I guess he could if he found a way to play with an insulin pump that didnt hamper his play.

  46. 46 anon said at 9:58 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    The Eagles have seen Biggers’ struggles first hand, too. In the past two years, Chip Kelly’s Eagles have targeted Biggers 15 times for 13 receptions, 160 yards, and two touchdowns.

    The Eagles are desperate for a new safety because they have no clear starter next to Malcolm Jenkins. Philadelphia’s options are limited so Biggers could be an inexpensive veteran option worth taking a flyer on.

  47. 47 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:13 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Guess it’s true, I’m not good at a one-night stand But I still need love ’cause I’m just a man These nights never seem to go to plan I don’t want you to leave, will you hold my hand? Oh, won’t you stay with me? ‘Cause you’re all I need This ain’t love it’s clear to see But darling, stay with me Why am I so emotional? No it’s not a good look, gain some self control And deep down I know this never works But you can lay with me so it doesn’t hurt Oh, won’t you stay with me? ‘Cause you’re all I need This ain’t love it’s clear to see But darling, stay with me

  48. 48 Alistair Middlemiss said at 10:24 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Incase people don’t know the song – it is by the spectacular Sam Smith – Stay with Me

  49. 49 MagsDaffyDilly said at 9:31 PM on April 7th, 2015:

  50. 50 b3nz0z said at 10:20 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    6’5” 246? obum needs to add some bulk

  51. 51 KAJomo said at 11:56 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I like sleek pass rushers. I dont think he’ll ever be a started, but a rotational good. Keep them thin and as fast/explosive as possible.

  52. 52 b3nz0z said at 12:41 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    and when he needs to shed an OT during a draw play?

  53. 53 KAJomo said at 12:55 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    You got me. He may not be a great player against the draw.

    Ask Von Miller or Bruce Irvin what they do. they are light, but seem to get over the fact that they may get caught on a draw occassionally.

    What a ridiculous response. You win by gettjng to the QB. Not defending the draw

  54. 54 b3nz0z said at 1:00 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    you’re right. outside linebackers are never expected to set the edge against run plays, offensive coordinators never run at small defenders, and defending the run is irrelevant to sound defense in the NFL.

  55. 55 b3nz0z said at 1:18 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    or just look at his spider chart i didn’t say he’s undraftable. i said he needs to bulk up, like pretty much every rookie in the trenches.

  56. 56 KAJomo said at 1:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    He’d be the #4 OLB. Use that spot for specialists. Either guys that can rush the QB or guys that can play several roles (Travis long). If this was Marcus Smith I’d agree. Not for a guy thatis going to have a limited role.

  57. 57 GEAGLE said at 10:25 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    you are the leading RB in franchise history, shut your mouth and go away before you ruin it with your mouth like McMoron did….shut up and go away and you will go down as beloved in this city… you can only hurt yourself running your mouth. nothing to gain…

  58. 58 GEAGLE said at 10:29 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    skins secondary is putrid. cant say I love stealing a DB that they dont want…
    Its bad enough I have to stomach the additions of cowboys, please no redskin trash!

  59. 59 eagleyankfan said at 10:29 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Shady — please call — 1.800.hug.4fre … You need one.

  60. 60 GEAGLE said at 10:42 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    If the Cowboys get AP, I wouldnt mind drafting another Defensive lineman, tho I worry that would lead to evantually losing Ced Thornton which im not very comfortable with

  61. 61 CrackSammich said at 10:43 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Because *then* who would you pretend to know on the team?

  62. 62 GermanEagle said at 11:15 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I rather want the Cowboys to trade for AP [and spend lots of money] than drafting Gurley or Gordon…

  63. 63 Weapon Y said at 11:48 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Agreed. AP will decline soon. I dont want Jerry to get a stud RB for 10 years.

  64. 64 Jernst said at 12:20 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    agreed. That team is a cap mess. Would love to watch them move a bunch of resources to acquire a RB that’s over 30 years old and 2 years removed from playing football at a high level.

  65. 65 Guest said at 11:39 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Seems you bring up these feelings in a lotta posters… keep up the posts man.. I like it a lot and all the hate hate hate!!

  66. 66 GEAGLE said at 11:42 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    i honestly wouldnt even know, I started minimizing most of the trash’s comments as soon as I see there names. Been a while since I read any of the inferior trash’s posts…. if you havent noticed, I only really respond to certain peoples posts….and you certainly dont see me wasting any time posting non football related trash. most of the people i minimize, i consitently get nothing of value from reading their posts, so whats the point obviously i get off on the hate lol, gives me a big head LOL

  67. 67 Bert's Bells said at 11:54 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    “inferior trash’s”

    You kiss your mother with that mouth?

  68. 68 Tumtum said at 11:32 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    Man we really need a tackle to groom.

  69. 69 Jernst said at 12:18 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Lane Johnson will most likely slide over to LT when Peters retires in the next 2 years. What we really need is a RT. I’d ideally love for us to draft a RG with RT potential high in the draft. Let him get up to NFL speed as a RG between two veterans and then have him slide out to RT when Lane moves to LT. Regardless, we still need to replace 3/5s of our oline ofver the next 2 years.

  70. 70 Tumtum said at 12:33 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Not toooooo worried about guards. Just have to make an investment in those. Good tackles though.. those can be tricky.

  71. 71 Jernst said at 2:42 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Tackle is definitely the more important position as well as the harder to find position. LT is probably the hardest, but with Peters and then Lane, I’m assuming we are set there for the next decade. RT is a bit easier to find, but still harder than guards. However, we’re set at tackles for the next two years and guard is the immediate need. That’s why I’d love to draft our RT of the furture this year and stick him at RG, so he can hit the ground running in 2017. As for depth, we’re screwed at all 5 oline positions…oye. Again, why I wouldn’t mind a high ceiling versatile olineman taken early.

  72. 72 Gary Barnes said at 4:42 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    And center too…if Kelce goes down again or consistently is hurt at times over the next few years, it would be nice to have a capable backup to slide in. I know that depth is hard to find, but learning under Kelce would be very good for someone and the center is the brains of the OL i.e. it is important

  73. 73 James said at 11:46 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    I googled EJ Biggers…the “N” on the keyboard is dangerously close to “B”…just sayin’

  74. 74 OregonDucker said at 12:01 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Excuse me, what the hell are you “just sayin'”???

  75. 75 James said at 12:04 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    be careful.

  76. 76 NinjaP said at 11:53 AM on April 7th, 2015:

    We actually have an open roster spot for a back up OLB. So he probably would only have to compete with other rookies.

  77. 77 Greg Richards said at 12:14 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Biggers’ one attractive quality is he’s a good STs player. He’s not bad as the 9th/10th DB/emergency depth. You don’t want him having a regular role. Signing him(assuming we do as almost everyone we bring in for a visit signs) could potentially signal a Boykin trade. However IF they are going to give Boykin a true shot at being the outside CB and IF they are going to give Watkins primarily snaps at S, then they need another option for the nickel CB spot. At least in TC.

  78. 78 anon said at 12:29 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Thurmond is a nickel corner.

  79. 79 Tumtum said at 12:36 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    The one guy I would bet gets hurt before Bradford 😀

  80. 80 Greg Richards said at 12:41 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Yes, I know, but you still need other guys available to take reps.

  81. 81 Jason said at 12:30 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Biggers’s one unattractive quality is that he is an awful football player who could not stick on the worst secondary unit in the league.

  82. 82 Greg Richards said at 12:41 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Best season came in 2012 as a Tampa 2 corner. As others have mentioned, the qualities we like in safeties are very similar to what the Tampa 2 styles calls for in CBs.

  83. 83 Jernst said at 12:31 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    The new Bradford for Manziel plus the Browns 1st round pick trade that’s being rumored makes no sense to me. The Browns have already reportedly offered pick 19 straight up for Bradford. If the thought is that the Eagles desperately want another 1st rounder so they can use the two firsts to move up for Mariota, why would they hold up the deal to include Manziel. Either take the deal straight up for #19 or try to improve the deal with more picks or by asking for pick #12 to improve your chances at trading up without using all your draft resources. Manziel has little to no value in a trade up, I’d think, and he’d have little value to us as a distracting d-bag who’s in rehab as our 3rd QB. Just not sure why they Eagles would be so hell-bent on acquiring Manziel as part of the trade if the ultimate goal is to move up for Mariota.

  84. 84 Jernst said at 12:33 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I have almost no faith in Barkley and would love to see us move on from him, but if there’s 2 QBs out there that I’d actually prefer Barkley over it’s Tebow and Manziel.

  85. 85 ACViking said at 12:34 PM on April 7th, 2015:


    Maybe it’s the Browns who are holding the deal up by wanting to include Manziel.

    Think Henny Youngman —

    “Take my wife . . . please.”

    Here’s a chance for the Browns to give the illusion of dignity to their draft operations.

  86. 86 Jernst said at 12:39 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    haha…very possible…

    Although, when the Bradford deal was first announced and the reports of what the compensation was were all over the place, I initially thought that us taking Bradford was the same situation. We were basically agreeing to take on his salary as a gift to the Rams so they could justify moving on from him. Little did I know we weren’t getting the Rams 1st round pick and we were sending them a 2nd rounder next year on top of that. Seems to me that the valuation of talented QBs is extremely different inside and outside of NFL Front Offices.

  87. 87 ACViking said at 12:55 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    “the valuation of talented QBs is extremely different inside and outside of NFL Front Offices”

    Exactly why — in maybe the greatest moment of ESPN draft coverage — then-Colts GM Bill Tobin, after passing on Fresno State QB Trent Dilfer for OLB Trent Alberts, and told by Chris Berman that Mel Kiper thought the Colts blew it . . .

    Screamed into the camera: “Who the hell is Mel Kiper?!”

  88. 88 Jernst said at 12:57 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    It would be interesting to see what the reaction would be if the Eagles traded Bradford straight up for pick #12. Most people were pretty pumped when they thought we traded foles for Bradford and a swap of firsts (giving up pick 20 for pick 10 in return). Wonder if people would be happy, thrilled, confused or angry if we turned Foles and a 2nd next year into pick #12 and a 3rd next year.

  89. 89 ACViking said at 1:01 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think this is right.

    In trade-chart value terms, that’s a great result.

    But it leaves the Eagles without a QB, unless Kelly’s ready to “re-chise” Sanchez.

    However, to you point, if that move happened in a pair of back-to-back deals, I think folks would be pleased — albeit a bit concerned.

    Now, it would Hell on Wheels.

  90. 90 GEAGLE said at 12:42 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    no comment… addressing a Manziel rumor is beneath me LOL

  91. 91 ACViking said at 12:55 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    But it comes with a Henny Youngman joke.

  92. 92 P_P_K said at 2:16 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Take my quarterback, please.

  93. 93 ACViking said at 4:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:


    Well done.

    Make sure to school your son on the whole Henny Youngman thing . . . exactly as you played it.

  94. 94 P_P_K said at 8:49 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    You’re a good man.

  95. 95 OregonDucker said at 1:21 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Jernst – Just a silly season rumor. Manziel took one look at Mariota and knew he could not compete at Oregon. He’s a sham of a QB. He cannot read D’s and instead uses athleticism to compensate. Chip would crucify him for his poor decision making and overall dumbness.

  96. 96 Nailed it! said at 12:43 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Great article on running back last year in heat map form… I do not think Chip particularly liked Shady’s.

  97. 97 lewis don said at 3:07 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Explains it

  98. 98 ACViking said at 12:48 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Re: Why Does the NFL Hate Pac-12 Players?

    Eagles looking seriously at Oregon State’s OLB Obum Gwacham.

    (Per his official OrSU bio, he pronounces his name: “oh-BOOM GWAH-chem.” So I’ll just call him “Boom” for short.)

    No question about that, it seems, after having spent one of their 30 player-at-facility visits on him.

    Here’s a kid who’s just learning OLB.

    Hard to imagine anyone who’d benefit more from post-draft mini-camps and OTAs than OBG.

    BUT . . . Boom graduated in December 2014.

    And that’s an additional data-point to consider when weighing Kelly’s interest in the kid. He completed college in just 3.5 years.

    Also, college-level competitor in track-and-field in the high jump.

    On the other hand, his DOB is 3/20/91 — so he’s already 24.

  99. 99 Media Mike said at 6:06 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Those schools need to end their nonsensical quarters system. Who wants to be in classes all the way into June? They need to do what most colleges in decent parts do; end things during the first week or so of May.

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 6:10 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    And an interesting discussion on the trend of more and more schools moving away from quarters.

  101. 101 scratcherk said at 12:51 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    This was brought up in last thread but curious what people think. Would you trade the #20 and a second round pick to trade up for a WR? It is a deep draft for WR and there are other holes to fill.

    What if we rephrase and apply to last year (also a deep WR draft)? Would you trade Marcus Smith and Jordan Matthews for Odell Beckham? Not saying there is an Odell this year but interesting food for thought.

  102. 102 jpate said at 1:03 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Well since Marcus Smith is an afterthought as of now it basically becomes Matthews for Beckham and much as i love matthews everyone would do that trade

  103. 103 RobNE said at 1:11 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    yes me too.

  104. 104 CrackSammich said at 1:17 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    It’s a lot easier if you want to trade say, Danny Watkins and Jaiquan Jarrett, than if you if you were trading Lane Johnson and Kendricks. Don’t let the hindsight bias cloud your judgement.

    If we were one WR away from competing, make the trade. We have too many wholes to be doing that, though.

  105. 105 NinjaP said at 1:47 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Depends on the receiver. If Amari Cooper starts falling yes any other one no.

  106. 106 Javi Echie said at 1:51 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Replace Cooper with White and no you’re talking.

  107. 107 OregonDucker said at 1:54 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Some projections have Cooper going to Bears at #7. Bears need LB and DB. Maybe an Eagles trade opportunity, since a couple of names come to mind. 🙂

  108. 108 RobNE said at 2:04 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    always looking to stir the pot

  109. 109 OregonDucker said at 2:15 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Stirring the pot makes for a delicious and rewarding stew.

  110. 110 meteorologist said at 7:48 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    NO. Isnt that like what the bills did for sammy watkins?

  111. 111 botto said at 1:02 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    why would the eagles want manziel and picks to get mariotta?
    wouldn’t they rather just get picks to do that?
    who wants manziel? no one.
    what a waste of time
    there is no way in hell chip values manziel more then Bradford. no possible way.
    a knee rehab is preferable to a brain rehab anyday

  112. 112 ACViking said at 1:11 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I’d be a Stan-the-76er-man move.

  113. 113 mksp said at 1:52 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    You mean Sam?

    Because if you do, there is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that not only have Chip & Sam met, but that they’ve had an absolutely fascinating, brief conversation about optimal strategy as it pertains to team building, the transcript of which I would pay over $100 for.

  114. 114 unhinged said at 4:13 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I don’t follow NBA so please forgive my lack of basic knowledge re: basketball. Wasn’t Hinkie hired to rebuild the franchise through tanking? Aren’t the 76’ers owned by Wall St. whizz kids who hired him to dismantle and wheel and deal and create a beast? If I am not confusing the 76’ers with another franchise, I do not see why any of Hinkie’s milieu would strike a remote resemblance to Kelly.

  115. 115 D3FB said at 5:05 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Hinkie comes from Houston and was the apprentice to Daryl Morey. Morey is one of the pioneers of advanced stats and analytics in basketball (Billy Beane of basketball).

    I also think that they would absolutely see eye to eye as Hinkie took over a team with Jrue Holiday who was coming off an all-star season and Thad Young. Conventional wisdom said add a couple of veteran free agents, find a good role player in the middle of the first round and make the playoffs. Hinkie decided to implode the team.

    Chip also looked around this offseason and has effectively jettisoned the core of the team that he inherited, in an unorthodox manner, in hopes of making the team better long term.

  116. 116 anon said at 1:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Plus every QB CK has bought in has been 6’2 215 or better, JF is 5’11.

  117. 117 Bert's Bells said at 1:38 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Bradford for Manziel and 11 -Manziel and 20 to the Jets for the MARIOTTTTA pick!!!!!!!!!!! Eagles trade 11 back for Armstead, Fischer, Grasu, Ifre-Olekpu (or whatever) #ALLTHEDUCKS!

  118. 118 botto said at 1:49 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    so the jets want manziel? come on
    no one wants this guy because he isn’t good.

  119. 119 anon said at 1:54 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    exactly what todd bowles is looking for — i’m going to assume it was a joke.

  120. 120 meteorologist said at 7:40 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    gave it away… to me at least. As well as the general overhyped feel of the comment

  121. 121 Bert's Bells said at 4:53 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    They see him as their next Tebow.

  122. 122 unhinged said at 4:02 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Kelly did recruit Johnny Football back at Oregon. And Manziel is still young enough to make a fresh start. Not my idea of a team player, but if he really loves football, he might be looking to prove it on and off the field. I am not wishing for it, but it could be fascinating watching the dynamic between an exacting coach and a re-born QB prospect.

  123. 123 anon said at 4:22 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    who knows who he is now, 4 months in rehab he could be a completely different person. i’ll judge based on his actions when he comes out.

  124. 124 OregonDucker said at 2:17 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think Jimmy Bama and Chip are trying to tell us something.

  125. 125 Mark Sitko said at 2:25 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Shady once left a woman on the side of the new jersey turnpike late at night – Chip is a character guy, bottom line – and with all the domestic violence stuff going on…I think Shady is just realizing he was sent to siberia where his career will fizzle and die on a losing team…instead of looking in the mirror and asking what he did wrong to get traded he is making excuses. Enjoy playing for rex in a cold dying city – he can talk trash all he wants…we will keep winning without him

  126. 126 anon said at 2:42 PM on April 7th, 2015:


  127. 127 unhinged said at 3:51 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Nothing personal, but that is self-serving crap to my tired eyes. McCoy did NOTHING wrong…he wasn’t being punished – what a Manichean inference, the Bills are a legitimate playoff contender (even with a question at QB) and McCoy was NOT talking trash – he was expressing an opinion.

  128. 128 lewis don said at 2:46 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Scheme Chemistry/fit/style + System + Financial state + Natural physical stature + Talent(Technique + Experience + Decision making acumen + Style + Moves) + Culture = State of Team ability

    Its a fluid concept.
    Chip Kelly is installing a scheme, the one he sees fit. It has flaws, every scheme does, but its the one he chose.
    The system includes practice regimen, health monitoring, certain requirements and routines.
    The other half of the equation is the players.
    Culture reinforces the whole thing. If I have the fit, I commit to the system, I have a rare physical physique, I have a high level of talent, but I kill myself in a drug overdose im not going to make an impact for long. Extreme example, I know.
    Some are skeptical of the McCoy move, as we all know.
    I wasn’t. Why?
    For my vision of what Chip Kelly is trying to do. McCoy could have fit, but for what he was going to be asked to do, he was overpaid. Then you look at health and you say, I can cut a guy loose rather than keep him a year longer than I should. Then you pick up 2 quality backs in his place.
    On the surface, McCoy is a big name, big highlight player, big numbers, big personality.
    And it is hard to tie down the “true” quality of players. You look at offensive line play, break downs of defenders, among many things that can skew stats.
    But as great a player McCoy is and was. From the first snap, to the last snap last year, my notes say McCoy did not take the next step.
    Its not about what he was, its about what we needed him to be for that money and with that reputation. year one, he was that. Year two, he simply wasn’t.
    Among my notes, I kept writing, McCoy gets finger tackled, McCoy stuck in the backfield, McCoy gets 2 yards, McCoy gets no yards. Then the occasional big run.
    Highlight plays don’t impress me as much as consistency. Consistency wins championships.
    You get me a 99 yard touchdown, that’s exciting. You give me 3.5 yards 75% of the time, you impress me. That’s the guy I’m taking. that’s what makes a Brady great from a Micheal Vick.
    Think about it. Who has more highlight plays? M. Vick, or T. Brady? Whos the more exciting player? Excitement alone doesn’t make a champion. Consistently good play does.
    That’s what I see Chip Kelly building here. And people tell me we should get Manziel? Why? That would be exciting. I would honestly be intruiged. But at the end of the day. I don’t think manziel is ready to be consistently great in the NFL. Don’t know If he ever will.
    The eagles will be a machine this year.
    When I went out to training camp last year at Lincoln Financial field. I could not believe what I saw from J. Matthews.
    He was a workhorse. Its one thing to hear about someone and how hard they work. but that man wants to be great.
    After I saw that. I thought, man he could go for 800 yards! if M. Sanchez gets in. Cause you could see the chemistry they had in practice.
    Chemistry, Hard working players, fit, Upright minds. This is the start of the machine.
    Mark my words. When we become a machine the likes of the Patriots, the spurs even. Only then will we finally be able to consistently believe in this team.
    I see the signs. I feel it. Counter me with this or that. But I feel good about this team.

  129. 129 Jernst said at 2:55 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    totally agree! The Patriots are downright boring to watch. They just execute over and over. The WR gets open by a yard, the QB hits him stride, WR gets tackled. The RB gains 4 yards. A screen has good blocking and execution and gains 10. Over and over. And, they just win, again and again. We’ve had some of the most dynamic and exciting players in the league for the past 5 years. Vick, Jackson, McCoy…they were all magicians with the ball in their hands. I can’t wait to have a boring team that wins with consistency.

  130. 130 meteorologist said at 7:03 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    You guys are both so right. These should be massively upvoted.
    Chip wants boring EXECUTORS not CREATORS/MAGICIANS

  131. 131 DarthBanner said at 2:46 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    If the Eagles end up going 6-10 or worse next season, I wonder how many of the people blasting Shady now will be talking about how right he was.

  132. 132 Javi Echie said at 2:51 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    And how exactly is Shady right in anything he said? Please elaborate.

  133. 133 eagleyankfan said at 3:17 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    if Eagles go 6-10, then Shady is right. If Eagles are 8-8, then we’re not sure about Shady. Better than 8-8, then Chip was right.

  134. 134 botto said at 4:03 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    so 9-7 chip was right and 7-9 shady is right?
    how about if our running game is better chip’s scheme does need a NS runner and if it isn’t then it didn’t matter?

  135. 135 anon said at 4:11 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    hard to define better better than 2013? or better than 2014 with that terrible line?

  136. 136 botto said at 4:16 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    less negative plays, more first downs, better red zone, etc.. so I guess wins is the only answer

  137. 137 anon said at 4:21 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I agree w/ you that Shady isn’t the one — he’s never been that type of guy. Look at all the championship contenders and what do they have? Huge RBs that can get third downs and score for the 2yrd line.

    How does SD beat SEA/DEN ball control, can’t play ball control with shady.

  138. 138 eagleyankfan said at 4:16 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I was being sarcastic…

  139. 139 botto said at 4:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    really? it sounded pretty normal.

  140. 140 peteike said at 3:15 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Id wager its more likely that the Bills stink and his career sort of just slows to crawl and ends up there in Buffalo along with Rexs career. Just like Rexs daddy, some early success and then flames out

  141. 141 unhinged said at 3:37 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    About Kelly not liking stars? That’s infantile.

  142. 142 BobSmith77 said at 4:56 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Shady still comes off poorly by continuing to open his mouth on this issue months after the trade took place.

  143. 143 D3FB said at 4:58 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    For the Eagles to go 6-10, GJ Kinnie would have to be your leading passer, Emmanuel Acho your leading tackler, and David Molk your LT.

  144. 144 Jernst said at 2:47 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Oldest offensive line in the league and little to no depth…not the best situation for us to be in. With a 30 year old journey-man set to start at RG, a 33 year old discontent coming off an injury plagued year at LG and a 32 year old LT who’s just starting to show his age, I’d think offensive line will be addressed more than once during the draft. When you consider that Molk, Kelly and Tobin are the only depth players we have and we havent drafted many linemen in recent years to develop, I think it’s a no brainer.

  145. 145 anon said at 2:54 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Agree, but i don’t think our line is as bad as it looks just giving age — i’m sure teams would love to swap out their 27yo guys for our 32/33 yo guys.

  146. 146 lewis don said at 2:58 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Did Peters lose a step to you last year Anon? I agree with you. But I feel a big injury coming for Peters.
    His patented early, but not False kick out got called a lot more than I remember last year. Made me think even he thinks he lost a step,
    Its like when I went to go play basketball down in Blacksburg VA. And those young guys were faster, stronger, and fresher than I was. I would try to use anticipation and decision making to my advantage. I sense Peters is at the height of his physical ability and maybe ready to decline. is it this year? idk.

  147. 147 anon said at 4:05 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Even if declining he’s got a far way to fall. He did have a big injury a couple of years ago, ironically he’s been a rock on the OL the last two years when every other guy has missed significant time.

  148. 148 Media Mike said at 3:50 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I don’t see Peters looking like he’s showing any age.

  149. 149 Javi Echie said at 4:00 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Completely agree. Only thing that wasn’t up to his normal standards are the excess amount of penalties he had this year. Besides that he was dominant as usual. I am not a fan of these metric stat sites but by most accounts Peters rated at around the top of the league in pass protection and run blocking.

  150. 150 anon said at 3:03 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    “Ex-Dolphins and Giants CB Will Allen is accused of running a $31 million Ponzi scheme.Now 36, Allen’s last NFL gasp came in 2012, where he spent
    training camp with the Patriots. Allen and a business partner are
    accused of a scheme that “purported to loan money to professional
    athletes.” Allen is likely to serve jail time.” – people are dirtbags

  151. 151 peteike said at 3:13 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    wow, cant wait to watch that one on American Greed, what an ahole

  152. 152 Insomniac said at 3:09 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think we had all of the top 7 CBs in for visits except for Peters now.

  153. 153 Media Mike said at 3:58 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    And to welcome myself back from a two week vacation; here is a 4 ish week out mock!

    Round 1 Pick 31 (N.O.): Jake Fisher, OT/OG, Oregon (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 12 (N.O.): Byron Jones, CB, Connecticut (B)
    Round 2 Pick 20: T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh (A)
    Round 3 Pick 20: Derron Smith, FS, Fresno State (A)
    Round 4 Pick 14: Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah (A-)
    Round 5 Pick 9: Kenny Bell, WR, Nebraska (A)
    Round 5 Pick 20: Vince Mayle, WR, Washington State (B-)
    Round 6 Pick 20: Zach Wagenmann, DE/OLB, Montana (B-)
    Round 7 Pick 20: Jermauria Rasco, DE, LSU (B-)

  154. 154 b3nz0z said at 4:24 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    that would be an amazing haul, but it’s pretty optimistic to think rowe will be there in Rd 4

  155. 155 Media Mike said at 4:25 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    True, but I can only draft what guys are there!

  156. 156 b3nz0z said at 4:26 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    hey if it goes down like that i’ll be dancing in the street!

  157. 157 Mitchell said at 6:37 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Like, because of Derron of Smith.

  158. 158 mksp said at 4:05 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I think this is my least favorite move of the offseason. I can only assume he got real minimal guaranteed money:

    Rand Getlin ‏@Rand_Getlin 2m2 minutes ago
    CB E.J. Biggers has signed a one-year deal with the #Eagles, a source said.

  159. 159 Media Mike said at 4:07 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Biggers sucks. I’d agree that this would also be my least favorite move.

  160. 160 Anders said at 4:09 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    He was a very good ST player. He is no worse at CB than Maragos is at safety

  161. 161 Joe Minx said at 4:13 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    We also signed former Chargers WR Seyi Ajirotutu to a 1-year deal.

  162. 162 Anders said at 4:14 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Who lead the Chargers in ST tackles last 2 years and was their ST MVP last year

  163. 163 Joe Minx said at 4:14 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Yup. More beef for the STs.

  164. 164 Tdoteaglefan said at 4:17 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I like it. I also remember him flashing a few times when he was starting for them a couple years ago..nice big target

  165. 165 anon said at 4:21 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Nice, no more Maehl and Brad Smith?

  166. 166 Anders said at 4:23 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Maehl is most likely coming back on TC contract, but Seyi seems like the 4th WR after the starting 3 right now

  167. 167 eagleyankfan said at 4:28 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    he’s ahead of Miles or cooper or Huff?

  168. 168 Anders said at 4:31 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I forgot Miles, but the starting 3 is Cooper, Huff and Matthews

  169. 169 botto said at 4:16 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    seyi what?

  170. 170 b3nz0z said at 4:23 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    6’3” 250! that’s nice size for a backup wr/ st dude

  171. 171 Joe Minx said at 4:24 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    250? More like 205 I think.

  172. 172 b3nz0z said at 4:25 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    haha it was 215! at least i rhymed . . .

  173. 173 anon said at 4:32 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    too bad we can’t get a big guy with any actual talent.

  174. 174 Greg Richards said at 5:44 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Both Ajirotutu and Biggers signed for the minimum per Kempski.

  175. 175 GermanEagle said at 5:13 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Blount is out against the Eagles!

  176. 176 Tdoteaglefan said at 5:15 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I’m obsessed ..

    20: R1P20
    52: R2P20
    84: R3P20
    113: R4P14
    145: R5P9
    156: R5P20
    196: R6P20
    237: R7P20

  177. 177 Brian Pillion said at 8:36 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Yeah, it’s a little too addictive. Which is the site that allows you to make trades? And can you make player for pick trades?

    20: R1P20
    52: R2P20
    84: R3P20
    113: R4P14
    145: R5P9
    156: R5P20
    196: R6P20
    237: R7P20

  178. 178 A_T_G said at 5:21 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Obviously, Chip is planning to bring in Manziel and Tebow as the #2 and #3 QBs so that Mariota doesn’t feel any pressure from behind him.

  179. 179 botto said at 5:41 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    now then i’d have to agree with Shady that this feels like college.

  180. 180 RobNE said at 5:47 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    did you buy a Brady jersey while you were here?

  181. 181 A_T_G said at 6:07 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    No, but that stadium is really impressive, with the shops and walkways, built into the terrain.

  182. 182 anon said at 6:13 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    A Chargers fan on BGN mentioned that Ajirotutu and Ryan Mathews were bunk mates in school — wonder if Ryan helped his buddy get a job.

  183. 183 Brian Pillion said at 6:47 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I remember really liking Ajirotutu (mostly on measurables) coming out of that class, and being kind of disappointed that we didn’t snag him as a UDFA.

  184. 184 GEAGLE said at 8:18 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Should be a solid addition to fill Brad Smiths role on ST for us…
    Knowing chips boner for ST studs, I’d guess he makes the roster. If this kid makes the roster, and Miles Austin makes the roster, and the Eagles spend a pick on a WR, Do you know what that means? FINALLY That would mean the end of the “Jeff Maehl Era”…. Works for me….

  185. 185 Greg Richards said at 9:04 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Don’t worry though, Will Murphy still has a year of PS eligibility

  186. 186 GEAGLE said at 10:34 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    seems like a serious ST Beast to me, which would be important since Brad Smith was one of our key contributors at that body type and he is gone in free agency..

    No friggin clue who our “emergency QB” is on game day now that both Brad Smith and James Casey are gone?… two ST animals that needed to be replaced….are we even going to have an emergency gameday QB, or will we now be forced to dress 3 QBs on gameday? Awww Shit, Barkley gets to wear a game jersey!!!!!

  187. 187 Joe Minx said at 11:30 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Burton has played QB before. Apparently Biggers was a 3 star QB in high school too.

  188. 188 Birds4Life said at 9:55 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Nah, Lane Johnson and MS II both played QB in high school! Could you imagine Lane going from RT one play to QB the next!?! He is only a chin strap away.

  189. 189 unhinged said at 6:42 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    A lot has been made of Kelly’s apparent willingness to take Matthews in the first round and Hart in the third round of last year’s draft, and the concern is he’ll do that again. I remember Kelly, explaining after the 2014 draft that they agreed to move back because the six or so players they’d have been happy taking at 22 were all gone. These are the players that the Eagles would have chosen at 22 (I think): A. Barr, Odell Beckham, C.J. Mosley, Kyle Fuller, Brandin Cooks, Ha-Ha Clinton-Dix and I’m not sure but I think Calvin Prior was on that list. Since Kelly has said that he did not have last word on last year’s draft, I guess that list of targets may have been HR’s.
    In either case, this is my short list of players who I would want to see the Eagles take in round 1 should they be available at 20: Peat, Parker, Beasley, Dupree, Waynes, Clemmings, Agholor. While I know this will elicit cackles about there being no chance in hell that they’ll be there at 20, I think it is possible that ANY of those players could slide. Agholor may be the outlier. I haven’t seen him in any first round mocks (by the professional mockers), but it is still early. Peat isn’t particularly special, just consistent to a fault, and along with Beasley, perhaps the least likely to slide. Parker, who may be the third best receiver in he whole draft would make a nice rangy target for any QB. Waynes is the top CB in the country, so he’ll probably have to get hurt or get in trouble to last until 20. Beasley I really like because he’s all over the field AND he is this year’s best edge rusher. I’m convinced he could play inside or out, but I don’t know if he is stout enough to set the edge. Dupree wouldn’t have any trouble setting the edge, and the chances of him being available appear decent. Clemmings, I think, is a gamble in round one, and if Jeff Stoutland isn’t impressed then it won’t matter, but he seems to be more athletic than most OL, which is why I won’t complain if he is taken.

  190. 190 D3FB said at 6:52 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Pryor wasn’t on the list last year.

    I don’t think Peat will be a target, he really doesn’t fit what we do.

  191. 191 unhinged said at 7:14 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I would appreciate some elaboration if you don’t mind. What little I have seen of Peat impressed me. He wins his battles with great consistency. What do you see not fitting? Slow to the second-level? Pass-protect liability? I defer to your lineman’s eye and scouting habits.

  192. 192 D3FB said at 12:44 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    I went back and watched the new USC film, and was really impressed, he looked much improved from what I remembered. There were some minor technical nit picks (he can go a bit bow legged at times) that bugged me but nothing too major.

    So I went back and watched the ND tape. then I saw it. A DL didn’t immediately come into his chest when Peat expected him to, and Peat looked awful.
    It’s his short area lateral quickness and ability to hit moving targets. He’s a big strong guy with a long reach and vice like hands, and once he locks onto you you’re done. Stanford does a great job of using their formations and spacing to get good angles and establish clean matchups. In the our zone scheme Peat won’t have that. He won’t be blocking down on the 3 tech a bunch or just immediately locking up with the DE 6 inches from his face mask. He’s going to have to move laterally and process information immediately to read stunts and blitzes. There will be alot of plays where he blocks the man lined up over top of him for us, but it will happen 2 yards away from where they lined up. Combine that with his ok athleticism (which is already maxed out due to his efficency of movement, so you can’t hope to improve that) and I just have a hard time seeing it.

    Don’t get me wrong I think he’s a fine player, I just don’t know that he fits what we do as well as other guys available do, whereas he fits other teams perfectly.

  193. 193 unhinged said at 4:22 PM on April 8th, 2015:

    Very nice. Thank you.

  194. 194 Mitchell said at 9:06 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I actually think Dupree has a tough time setting the edge. Right now he is a raw, speed, pass rusher with little ability to convert his speed into power. He isn’t as physical in the run game as you would like and is a sloppy tackler. However, his first, second, and even third step will beat several if not all LT at the NFL level. I think he can slip because he is so raw but he would be the type of pass rusher that teams have to game plan against once he gets he technique together. I personally think you should add Jaelen Strong to your list as well.

  195. 195 unhinged said at 4:56 PM on April 8th, 2015:

    Duly noted. I would hope that a 270LB guy who is agile enough to play some coverage would be able to learn to use his mass to slow the sweep outside. Setting the edge isn’t all brute force, but a little torque is helpful.
    I like Strong, but I would try to move back if none of my favorites are available. I think he’s usually rated higher than Agholor, but not on my list.

  196. 196 Mitchell said at 5:53 PM on April 8th, 2015:

    I like Strongs ability to go up and make catches. He’s a little bigger than Agholor too. I have them pretty equal but Strong may have the best hands of the draft and is larger with similar speed.

  197. 197 GermanEagle said at 6:57 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I have been trying to spell his name correctly for hours now. Still no success. Can we please agree on a common nickname for our newest special teams ace?

  198. 198 Javi Echie said at 6:58 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Seyi Ajirotutu – Shay-EE Ah-JEER-uh-too-too

    I think “Tutu” sounds about right.

  199. 199 GermanEagle said at 7:08 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Not sure if I wanna see him in one though….

  200. 200 Javi Echie said at 7:12 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I agree man.

  201. 201 GermanEagle said at 7:54 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I asked my friend Mr. Google.

  202. 202 Javi Echie said at 7:56 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Not a good look googling guys in tutu friend.

  203. 203 GermanEagle said at 8:22 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    People do crazy things when they’re bored.

  204. 204 A_T_G said at 10:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Speaking of which, your exact phrase makes for an interesting Google image search.

  205. 205 botto said at 8:10 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    that’s not a man

  206. 206 Javi Echie said at 8:11 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Whoops well I retract my previous statement. Excuse my shattered phone screen so I seen the face and thought it was weird that it would be man.

  207. 207 GermanEagle said at 8:21 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    If you ‘see more’… 😉

  208. 208 botto said at 7:47 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I saw it reported that the bears are thinking of trading cutler to Tenn for the MM pick….

  209. 209 Alistair Middlemiss said at 7:53 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I am sure that the Bears are thinking about it… in their dreams. No way Tenn are trading for that contract as a rebuilding team – pick him up next year after he has been cut.

  210. 210 botto said at 8:04 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    you wouldn’t want to pay a lame ass qb 26 million when he is 32? and has a dumb face?

  211. 211 anon said at 8:23 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    and kills every coach he plays for

  212. 212 botto said at 8:35 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    fox is his best chance to get better

  213. 213 GEAGLE said at 8:39 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Working as an analyst for FOX network is his best chance at getting better at something

  214. 214 anon said at 8:39 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    b/c he likes to run the ball?

  215. 215 GEAGLE said at 8:14 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    I don’t know where you get your reports but that’s insane brother…they would probably have to give a team a 4th rounder just to take Cutlers contract

  216. 216 botto said at 8:30 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    saw it reported on ESPN

  217. 217 GEAGLE said at 8:38 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Seriously? A channels like Espn that doesn’t have to worry about Sportscenter ratings allows blatantly fabricated fiction to be passed off as a report? There is Literally No Chance in fucking hell that there are any discussions involving a trade between Cutler and the #2 pick in the draft, Is Espn trying to piss away what bit of integrity they have left?

  218. 218 anon said at 8:40 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    yeah it’d be terrible but GM’s have done worse — did cutler ever worth with wisenhunt? they clearly want a vet qb.

  219. 219 GEAGLE said at 8:43 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    That’s impossible. No one can be THAT crazy….
    For this to have any chance in happening, Cutler would have to agree to a brand new contract with the Titans, taking a drastic drastic historic pay cut I wouldd assume, and why the hell would Cutler ever agree to that, let alone to play for the Titans?
    I think there is a better chance of chip trading Fletcher Cox for Johnny Manziel, then for Cutler to fetch the #2 pick overall in the draft…
    If Cutler agreed to a massive pay cut, I’m not sure he could fetch the #102 pick in the draft, let alone the 2nd,,,

    Btw, the manziel rumor is completely fabricated,

  220. 220 anon said at 9:00 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Didn’t OAK give up like 2 firsts for Carson Palmer coming off an ACL? I agree with you, but GMs do strange things trying to hold on to a job.

  221. 221 botto said at 9:02 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    an ACL? what?! that’s nuts.
    never take a chance on an old ACl injury

  222. 222 wee2424 said at 1:02 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Any coach that takes a chance on a player with a torn ACL is purely a college coach and will never make it in the NFL. They are probably racist too.

  223. 223 Mitchell said at 9:01 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    The Bears would pay some of Cutler’s contract up front.

  224. 224 GEAGLE said at 11:22 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    That would have to make much more sense…but when was the last time something like that happened in the NFL? Im drawing a blank….way more common in Baseball,… Heck, thats not even THAT common in the NBA
    even if Cutler had a cheap modest contract, you really think Wisenhunt would part with the #2 pick in the draft for this HOT MESS who’s stock couldnt possibly be any lower?
    at least the jets arent going to be the 3rd franchise that tries to pair Marshall with Cutler, By this point I think its safe to say that the Cutler/Marshall Tandem doesnt work..

  225. 225 Mitchell said at 12:47 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Cutler’s deal was literally one of the dumbest things I could have every thought of doing. Even Romo’s contract makes more sense. LOL. The only way to get out of something that utterly ridiculous is to do something unprecedented.

  226. 226 Greg Richards said at 7:24 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    It just happened with the DaShon Goldson trade. Technically, the team isn’t absorbing salary as part of the trade. What happens is that prior to the trade the team renegotiates the contract of the player to convert a part of his salary into a roster bonus that the team then pays. Then the player can be traded to another team at the lower salary.

  227. 227 botto said at 8:35 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    maybe they are trying force chips hand to deal them Bradford. he aint biting..

  228. 228 MattE said at 9:50 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    it was on PTI…. they said a report for bleacherreport

  229. 229 eagleyankfan said at 7:37 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    OD, I think it was him, saying the Bears might trade back with the Eagles….it’s the time of the year to float everything out there…

  230. 230 GEAGLE said at 9:53 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Is Sal Pal being a blowhard again, or am I reading the Tea leaves wrong?
    Today the “questionable” Sal Pal is “reporting” that chip kelly absolutely got completely taken for a sucker by Jeff Fisher and the Rams, who tricked Chip kelly into giving up that 2nd round pick, claiming we were bidding against only ourselves showing his inexperience as a GM…. True or False? “Si or No?”
    Geagle says Salvatore is talking that Fiction Bullshit again. Either he is talking out his ass, telling more stories then walt Disney, or he is too dumb that he recieved bogus info..not sure which is more likely when dealing with this national hack.. Lets talk this through for a minute and see if he is making any sense.,..
    Salvatore is claiming that its true that teams were very interested in Sam, but that they ALL required Sam to agree to an extension, specifically the browns wanted him to sign a 4yr extension (allegedly, because i dont really believe a word he says at this point) before the trade would be completed, and that Ultimately Sam and his agent didnt want to do an extension, and that in the end, everyone dropped out and the Eagles “were the only team willing to trade for Sam without him agreeing to an extension…
    so far, plausible right? The problem with this fairy tale is that since this trade, it has been confirmed that the Browns indeed offered chip Kelly a first round pick the day after the sam to the Eagles trade was completed, which collaborated the “Big Bad Liar” chip kellys statement that he was already offered a first round pick for Sammi boy…
    So in order for us to believe Sal Pals fairytale, we would have to believe that. One day, Sam makes it clear that he wont sign an extension with the Browns who were hot after Sam like we were, and that the Browns withdraw from the trade talks with the Rams, leaving the Eagles as the ONLY team bidding on Sam, and the Rams managed to trick chip into giving up that 2nd round pick when we were “bidding against ourselves”. Chip gets suckered out of the 2nd round pick, the trade is completed, announced, yet from that time, til the next day around noon when Chip had the press conference announcing the trade, the Browns immediately changed their minds and all of the sudden were willing to give us a first round pick KNOWING Sam wouldnt sign an extension with them? LOL as if the Rams even had permission to keep talking with Sam’s agent after the trade to the Eagles was completed….. I find this extremely hard to believe… I know the Browns are pretty dysfunctional, but thats a little too far fetched for me to believe even for THAT front office….

    lol and now they are talking about axquiring Sam Bradford in a trade where Chip would take Manziel back and a first rounder? LOL… what happened? werent we trading Kendricks/3 first rounders/cox/boykin./two second rounders for Mariota last week… lol either dudes are throwing straight shit against walls, shamelessly hoping something sticks, or these hacks are being straight disrespected by their “sources” and are too Donkey to even realize how little sense they make….
    Keep running your mouth Sal, and you wonder why Chip doesnt respect you…. I dont even really care to defend chip, feel free to rip him, but dont piss in my ear and tell me its raining, even if you are too donkey to realize that its piss, not rain on your face….

  231. 231 MattE said at 9:57 PM on April 7th, 2015:


  232. 232 A_T_G said at 10:19 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    There was nothing precise about that, but Sal is almost certainly wrong.

  233. 233 Joe Minx said at 11:29 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    Sal Pal can go get F’ed.

  234. 234 GEAGLE said at 12:19 AM on April 8th, 2015:


  235. 235 Mac said at 12:27 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    As one astute Igglesblitzer once posted… you can’t spell Sal Paolantonio without Anal Piano Stool.

  236. 236 GEAGLE said at 10:27 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    “Technically a wideout, Ajirotutu is a special teamer by trade. He’s one of the league’s best third-unit players. Ajirotutu will likely do some blocking on offense in Philly, but he’s being signed for kick coverage.”-roto

    sounds like Brad Smiths replacement to me…. Chip is a sick bastard, watch this dude figure out how to even improve on last years insane Special Teams unit..
    unless this kid has a bad injury in camp, Id bet on him making the roster knowing chip gets special teams boners…Which means, that if Miles Austin can make the roster and we draft a WR, The Jeff Maehl era comes to an End…
    Im not entirely sure how good they will be, but it seems like we will have some serious size at WR:
    Coop 6’3 230lbs
    Pope 6’3 220lbs
    This dude whos name I will never remember so I officially dub him “Bishop Tutu” 6’3 217lbs
    Miles Austin 6’2 215lbs
    Josh Huff, 5’11, but COCK DIESEL built like a RB…
    Rookie ????
    Ertz 6’5 250 lbs (basically a big ass, overgrown WR)
    Burton 6’3 240lbs
    Celek 6’4 255lbs

    Offense is like the LAND OF GIANTS this year… Give us a top OL, and we will run the ball down your throat all game long with our big bruising stable of physical down hill RBs.. elite blocking TE like Celek, ELITE Blocking WR like Coop…. Give us a top OL and we will run the ball down teams throat, physical, nasty, but at our vintage breakneck pace… Our Run game will be like “a battering Ram on Meth”… GET SOME!!!!!

  237. 237 myartz04 said at 7:30 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    I am so excited for this year. The NFL has become such a pass happy finesse league. The Eagles are going to play some major power football this year. It will be the birth of the power spread offense in the NFL and within a year or two you will see other teams copycat the eagles. Might have multiple 300 yard rushing games this year.

  238. 238 daveH said at 10:45 PM on April 7th, 2015:

    my feelings got hurt also.
    but when fat andy and joe nickles let Brian Daawkins walk .. over money .. dam that hurt me bad

  239. 239 Mac said at 12:29 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Jimmy points out that Tutu is buds with Mathews and Murray is buds with Bradford… what this all adds up to seems obvious.

    This year the Eagles will be called the Super Friends!

    (or the International Justice League of Super Acquaintances)

  240. 240 D3FB said at 12:51 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Kelce and Barwin were also college roommates.

    With the 20th pick in the Draft the Philadelphia Eagles select: A fat Leif Ericson clone.

    Media: “Chip what the hell man?”

    Chip: “Beau was lonely guys, You can’t have a guy so magnificent looking look so sad all the time”

  241. 241 Mac said at 1:16 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Could be worth a follow on twitter?

  242. 242 eagleyankfan said at 7:33 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    I vote to ban you for this post alone….

  243. 243 Sammy Bee's Knees said at 6:28 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Good Quote ffrom a guy on /r/eagles who attended a Q&A with Rick Minter and Duce Staley.:

    “The staff uses a book that refers to Red and Blue players. Blue is the calm, cerebral guy. Red isn’t erratic but can be the passionate guy. You dont need to have 1 or the other 100%, but you’d like to have some measure of 1 & 1. Demeco is blue. He sees Kiko also being blue. He showed tape of Kiko’s speed and smarts and also showed tape of the same from MK

    I should add that he mentioned there wasn’t much of a dropoff in terms of football smarts and adjustment capability when Casey and Emmanuel came in for Demeco. The loss was in the leadership and poise.

    Also said Dime was planned to be featured before the regular season even began. We lucked out in terms of MK and Demeco injury timings as far as the Dime package that they weren’t cocurrent”

  244. 244 Sammy Bee's Knees said at 6:29 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    “The #1 attribute Duce looks for in a RB is the capability to protect the QB. Says Shady is probably the best single back in the league at picking up the blitz.”

  245. 245 anon said at 10:32 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    What? I don’t know about that — he’s probably just fluffing his dude there.

  246. 246 Anders said at 7:00 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    interesting info.

    Reading the comment, it sounds like they expect Kiko+Kendricks to start with Ryans as rotation ILB.

  247. 247 Avery Greene said at 8:25 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Considering the problems they had with injuries last year, this makes sense. Put the two playmakers on the field together, but have a guy like Meco ready to either spell or replace in case of injury. Meco doesn’t have to rush back from injury, and they aren’t reliant on him to carry the load.

  248. 248 anon said at 10:32 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    the logical explanation – not “they’re trading kendricks!!!!!!!!!”

  249. 249 CrackSammich said at 9:13 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    I never understood why people didn’t think Casey Matthews was capable of running the defense. The fact that he’s not fast/big enough to play the position doesn’t mean that the he’s a complete idiot, too. Same with any of the backups that played the role.

  250. 250 Greg Richards said at 7:27 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Adam Caplan



    5 minutes ago

    Former #Bengals RB Cedric Peerman visited the #Eagles on Tuesday.


    4 favorites

  251. 251 Greg Richards said at 7:28 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    We didn’t immediately sign him. Maybe this is just building up your ready list in case of injury. Peerman is primarily a STs player. May make more sense than Polk as a #4 RB. I also wouldn’t be surprised if someone signs Polk to an offer sheet before the draft.

  252. 252 Avery Greene said at 8:37 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Kempski never disappoints.

    Chip hates stars.— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) April 7, 2015

  253. 253 Avery Greene said at 8:38 AM on April 8th, 2015:

    Add one more for fun.

    Shut up, Shady. You're not an Eagle anymore.— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) April 7, 2015

  254. 254 370HSSV 0773H said at 4:34 PM on April 8th, 2015:

    Chip doesn’t like divas, not stars.

  255. 255 Blue Coaster33 said at 4:09 PM on April 19th, 2015:

    The Silent Shard

    This can possibly be quite valuable for some of one’s job opportunities I intend to do not only with my blog but