Fun Exercise

Posted: June 29th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 124 Comments »

This is the time of year when the mind drifts a bit. You can only imagine Walter Thurmond playing Safety or Allen Barbre at LG for so long. Your mind is going to wander.

Mine did that this weekend and it led me to this week’s PE.com column…which former Eagle would you add to the current roster if you could?

I listed the candidates and made the case for/against each of them. There were some usual suspects (Dawk, Reggie, etc.) but I also mixed in some less well-known names. The player who really got me intrigued was Bob Brown, the former OL who played 5 years for the Eagles before moving on to the Rams and Raiders. Ray Didinger wrote a terrific piece on him.  Check out these quotes.

“Bob was the most aggressive offensive lineman that ever played,” said John Madden, who coached him in Oakland. “Bob used to say that if he could get the right hit on a defensive end, hit him in the right place like the solar plexus,  he could take a quarter out of him. And he would do it. He’d hit a guy in the first quarter and say, ‘I won’t see him again until the third quarter.’”

“Bob Brown had a cold-blooded mentality,” said Rams defensive end Deacon Jones. “He’d kill a mosquito with an ax.”

“I dislike every man I play,” Brown once said. “I may not even know the guy, but I dislike him because he is standing between me and All-Pro, between me and my paycheck.”

Wow. I would love to watch some extended video of him.

Back to the overall topic. Take a look at my list and who I chose. Let me know what you think and why. I’ll write a follow-up post explaining my thoughts in more detail.

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124 Comments on “Fun Exercise”

  1. 1 GEAGLE said at 8:48 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Duh. DAWKINS,…. Put weapon X in this defense and they would b as good as any defense in the league, especially once ROWE is ready to take over:
    ..
    Byron Maxwell, Dawk, Malcolm Jenkins and ROWE… That’s a badass secondary!!!

    I despise drafting corners and I hate playing young corners….. Before ROWE and Byron Jones, I haven’t believed in any CB prospect since the Falcons drafted Desmond Trufant who ended up being ranked top 10 corner in his second season which is almost unheard of at the CB position that usually takes kids 3-4yrs to be ready for the NFL transition,,,
    ..
    I loved Trfant in 2013… Since him, ROWE and Byron Jones are the only top CB prospects I believed in… Fortunately we snatched up one of them… Rookie CB flat out suck, and I think Nolan is better then this city seems to think. ROWE however has impressed his team mates, who knows how long it takes him to take Nolans outside spot moving him back to Dime CB

  2. 2 T_S_O_P said at 9:02 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I voted for Reggie, who started his Eagles career playing on a 3-4. I have to say Tommy that if you can get rid of Randall for reasons of culture and motivation, it is difficult to understand how you can include Jerome. Both were all-time great players where a dysfunctional and oppositional culture was encouraged. Buddy didn’t draft Randall, but i’d say Brown’s bravado appealed highly to Ryan. Of all the players he drafted, I’d take Clyde, Seth and Allen on this current defensive team and maybe Steve Kaufusi 🙂

  3. 3 Ryan said at 9:17 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    It has to be McNabb. The QB position is far and away the most important (thus Mariota-mania leading up to the draft). It doesn’t matter that Reggie White and Brian Dawkins are considerably better players than McNabb–it’s all about position. If you have a great QB, you have a chance in every game.

  4. 4 wee2424 said at 9:26 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I agree. However call me a homer but if Bradford stays healthy I think he could do big things in this offense, therefore if he stays healthy I would keep Bradford. I think McNabb would end up driving Kelly nuts.

  5. 5 Ryan said at 9:46 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    No way. It would be a very different offense with McNabb as opposed to Bradford–more run and deep throw based as opposed to timing, but Kelly could run his full option offense with McNabb. Remember how terrific of a runner he was back in the day? Imagine how many times he could’ve gotten 20+ yards on plays that Foles got 3-5. He would benefit greatly from how open Kelly is able to scheme receivers as well. He was always terrific at not turning the ball over which Kelly would value greatly.

  6. 6 RobNE said at 10:21 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    he stopped running though. The SB year he barely ever ran, even when there were 15 yards of green in front of him. this drove me nuts. I guess if you are taking the rookie McNabb. But he seemed to go out of his way to “not be a running QB” to the extent that it hurt the team.

  7. 7 Ryan said at 10:38 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Yeah–I agree. Reid was encouraging him to do that though because the offense was about timing and short passes. Kelly’s has a major run element to it and thus wouldn’t have tried to turn him into a pocket passer. McNabb wouldn’t have been as good of a fit once he got injured and was a step slower/hesitant to run. At that point, Bradford may well be the better QB–when healthy.

  8. 8 Chiptomylou said at 11:10 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Granted, that drove me nuts too but if he had continued to have ran there is a case to be made he may have ended getting hurt much earlier in his career and may have eventually had serious injury issues earlier than when he did. But that’s a big what if.

  9. 9 wee2424 said at 1:24 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Yes, and then McNabb didn’t want to run anymore. For the majority of his career he stopped being a QB that wanted to run.

    Kelly has stated over and over that he values a QBs ability to throw more then anything else. While McNabb was obviously good at throwing the ball I think Bradford would be more effective in this O with chucking the ball.

    Alot of this really has to do with my opinion of Bradford versus yours. Due to the fact that I am projecting and my opinion of Bradford is higher then most I don’t think me and you could ever see eye to eye on this.

    However go back and look at McNabbs stats. They are really not as impressive as many of us remember. I was surprised when I went back and looked at them.

    I just think if Bradford continued the year he was having in 2013 instead of getting hurt the majority of us would view him in alot better light. Again I really think he has the talent and the talent around him to go off in this O. I do view him as having more talent then McNabb when it comes to throwing.

    Regarding my comment of McNabb driving Kelly nuts I truly think it would happen at times. Possibly refusing to run, stupid podium comments, horrible time management or situational awareness at times.

    I am not trying to take away from McNabb, he was a great QB for us. I am just really high on Bradford.

  10. 10 Ryan said at 1:30 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I think projecting Bradford to be Peyton Manning or Dan Marino in this offense is a mistake. McNabb was fantastic the one year that he had good weapons in his prime–2004. When Bradford has had very little to work with–he hasn’t been statistically good.

  11. 11 wee2424 said at 2:25 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I didn’t say he would be Marino or Manning, but the last time he did play he was actually very good from a statistic standpoint with a VERY underwhelming supporting cast.

  12. 12 Ryan said at 2:32 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    His rating from 2013 would’ve been something like 16th this season–barely better than Mark Sanchez.

  13. 13 wee2424 said at 4:01 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    His rating was 90.9. I don’t think that’s 16th.

    Nearly 1700 yards, 14tds, 4 picks, over 60% comp. Over 7 games.

  14. 14 Ben said at 11:37 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    People seem to forget how good Bradford was in his rookie season.
    He broke two longstanding records that year.
    Most completions by a rookie QB, and most completions without throwing an interception.
    I am guessing Chip remembers and plans to rekindle that magic that got Bradford drafted #1 overall.

  15. 15 wee2424 said at 8:34 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Wasn’t aware of those records. There is no denying he is extremely talented. Just needs to stay healthy, and I truly believe that if he does he will put up some serious numbers with us.

  16. 16 xmbk said at 2:11 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Plus, Kelly would have had him in good enough shape to not throw up. 😉

  17. 17 daveH said at 4:21 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    i think the O LIne let DMac down bigtime in that game and I said in the 1st qtr “I think Mac will be wiped out by 2nd half the way no one is blocking for him!!”
    ..
    well that wasn’t my quote exactly, but I was yelling something close to that at my tv.
    I think Mac gets a bum rap on that. I think he ran 4x times as much that day / and his O Line was invisible and they never have to take the rap on it !!
    ..
    basically I felt he was scrambling on every single play .. and it wasn’t like Andy Reid had any solutions either!!!

  18. 18 unhinged said at 3:52 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Also, the very real threat of 5 keeping the ball would make defenses choose their poison, and the RB would definitely benefit.

  19. 19 BreakinAnklez said at 9:27 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Agreed. Gotta have a QB today.

  20. 20 Ark87 said at 9:47 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Yep, a great QB automatically makes your team relevant every single year. No other single player can do that.

  21. 21 Engwrite said at 11:10 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Absolutely. I remember McNabb waving at Westbrook as Andy Reid’s version of ‘play action,’ while Westbrook was already 5 yards away. Everyone knew Andy Reid had called a pass.
    Can you imagine McNabb, in his prime, on Kelly’s offense? He might kill a few worms per game but he would be a constant threat to run, he would not throw an interception and he was pretty good at hitting the long pass to the open receiver.
    He wasn’t a HOF qb, but pretty close. A qb w/o much receiver support (except for the TO year) who took the team to 5 championship games.
    In this offense, he might have become a HOFer.
    I would take McNabb. Not even close.

  22. 22 sonofdman said at 11:23 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    That was my first thought as well. They were perennially one of the best teams in the league with McNabb and a young McNabb would be great in Kelly’s offense. I love Dawkins and it would be hard to pass on him, but QB is so important.

  23. 23 sdev923 said at 9:22 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I would love to see Westbrook play in Kelly’s offense. With his smarts and versatility, he would have put up Marshall Faulk type numbers (as long as he stayed healthy).

  24. 24 D3FB said at 10:11 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I will always love you Cole Manhart.

    🙁

  25. 25 Kelce's Beard said at 9:34 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    that makes you and his mother

  26. 26 bdbd20 said at 10:45 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Give me Eric Allen.

    Special mention to Shawn Andrews circa 2005.

  27. 27 daveH said at 4:28 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    nate allen cool call

  28. 28 PlanetX said at 4:34 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Eric Allen jumped right to mind for me too man. Troy vincent as well.

  29. 29 Insomniac said at 10:49 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Besides the usual and soon to be HoFers that we have

    Jim Johnson (yes i know he’s not a player but still)
    Brian Westbrook
    Tra and Runyan
    A young Vick that Chip could have molded
    Troy Vincent + Sheldon Brown
    Harold Carmichael
    uhh prime Nnamdi?
    Todd Pinkston.

  30. 30 Ark87 said at 11:20 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I don’t think anyone could have helped young Vick, sadly. Definitely did not have a growth mentality.

    I really miss JJ though, great out of the box thinking there.

  31. 31 daveH said at 4:25 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    pinkston what?
    funny fake out joke on a good list of picks .. thinking your Carmichael call is pretty creative! I felt he was never used to his fullest!
    ..but whamo slammed me back to reality w pinkston!

  32. 32 Alex Karklins said at 10:55 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    I know the Eagles are stacked at ILB right now, but can you imagine Seth Joyner and Kiko Alonso locking down the middle of the field? Joyner had Kendricks’ playmaking skills and the size Kelly covets.

    I would absolutely take McNabb in his prime as well.

  33. 33 A_T_G said at 11:22 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    He was the first player I thought about.

    Well, after Dawkins.

  34. 34 Mark Sitko said at 11:00 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Seeing you take McNabb is somehow sad…makes me realize how unappreciated he was as he left – I know some of that is on him, but if he is one of the 3 Eagles Tommy would bring back…I mean, that is high praise. My 3 would be Dawkins, Reggie and Chuck – there is just something about Bednarik that I wish I got to see while he was playing…I don’t know as much about Bob Brown – but he sure seems to have that quality as well…so many Eagles to appreciate…I hope we get an NFL Rewind eventually that will let us go back into the 60s to watch games…it’s coming, only a matter of time

  35. 35 MattE said at 11:00 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Dawk, set it and forget it.

  36. 36 ACViking said at 11:23 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    OT Bob Brown – a quick clip in the first 10 seconds.

    Huge. Great feet. Tremendous strength.

    And remember that Brown played before the NFL changed the rules to permit O-lineman to extend their arms.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1MMCJRlKV0

  37. 37 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:24 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Not sure he would be my pick, but I think Cunningham was too quickly dismissed. Was Cunningham’s poor work ethic a product of Buddy Ryan’s lax attitude towards his stars? I think that had something to do with it. How would Randall, as a rook, have responded to Chip? If he responds well to that style….
    What about Randall in his Minnesota Vikings era? He learned.

  38. 38 sonofdman said at 12:45 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I loved Randall as a kid, but he was notorious from when he got in the league for not watching tape and not studying the playbook. He wanted to be a rock star. But his skills would have been amazing in this offense.

  39. 39 Ryan said at 1:28 PM on June 30th, 2015:

    Randall would’ve been on the short train out of town on Chip’s watch. His dedication or lack there of would’ve irked Chip to no end ala Shady and MeSean.

  40. 40 Jarock said at 11:31 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    McNabb. Sure, he’s soured most of the fan base with his inane comments, but he had the right attitude coming out of college. He was always a team first player who would have bought into Kelly’s doctrine and he would have been downright scary in this offense. I agree that Dawkins and Reggie were much better overall players, but a great QB would do more to put this team over the top than a great safety or defensive lineman.

  41. 41 Cafone said at 11:35 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    McNabb? C’mon son.

    Chip Kelly wants a QB who gets the ball out quickly. McNabb was the opposite of a Chip Kelly QB.

  42. 42 unhinged said at 3:46 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I always thought that DMAC held the ball to spite the coach who took so long to give him a decent receiver.

  43. 43 OldDocZOMGamazeballs said at 3:52 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Most of the WRs McNabb played with needed five or six minutes to get open, which didn’t help.

  44. 44 stephenstempo said at 6:17 PM on June 30th, 2015:

    I get that our glasses are tinted by group-think about mcnabb. I really do. That being said is like to think a young mcnabb would thrive in Kelly’s offense. If he got him young. Mcnabb was a physical anomaly good runner great size and a cannon. I actually think he was a sausage peg and Reid kept trying to fit him into his version of a west coast offense. But in an offense that ran the ball this much I think mcnabb would really strive. I also think the whole sports science regime would keep him a bit trimmer than he kept himself. I also think the offense itself would help him get the ball out quicker.

  45. 45 xmbk said at 11:51 AM on June 29th, 2015:

    Dawkins, then McNabb, for the reasons you state. And it does hurt to leave White off.

  46. 46 HawaiianEagle said at 12:22 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    How about Shady? Just kidding…

  47. 47 Ark87 said at 1:11 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Here I thought this was an article about Zumba or something, so disappointing.

  48. 48 sonofdman said at 1:28 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I was thinking about commenting on the irony of Tommy writing about exercise, but I didn’t want to be mean. Sorry Tommy!

  49. 49 A_T_G said at 1:37 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    It is good you exercised restraint.

  50. 50 A Roy said at 1:40 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    sonofdman’s comment should be exorcised.

  51. 51 A_T_G said at 1:45 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I am sure he is sweating it.

  52. 52 SteveH said at 1:39 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Bob Brown sounds like if yes he wasn’t playing football he would be in prison. For like murder.

  53. 53 ACViking said at 4:47 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Here’s an interview of Brown from a couple years ago.

    You won’t find very many more thoughtful, soft spoken, reflective guys than Brown — off the field, of course.

    He’s nothing like some of today’s more notorious players.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WnriZime9k

  54. 54 Avery Greene said at 5:21 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I was hoping you’d post today. Hexy is killing it as a GM.

  55. 55 SteveH said at 6:48 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Sure, soft spoken and intelligent, reflective… sort of like Hannibal Lecter. Now I’m even more frightened.

  56. 56 ACViking said at 6:59 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    That is an great observation.

    Touche

  57. 57 A_T_G said at 1:42 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I am surprised to see Vincent get mentioned over Eric Allen. Is nostalgia clouding my judgement? Has Nate sullied the name Allen that much?

  58. 58 EaglesFan1 said at 1:43 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Mcnabb, Dawkins, and Reggie White.

  59. 59 A_T_G said at 1:53 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    With so many of the suggestions focused on areas of need for the current team, the fact that Reggie still gets consideration despite playing the position that is arguably the most well stocked says volumes about just how good he was.

  60. 60 b3nz0z said at 2:08 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    dawk, dawk, and dawk

  61. 61 Nicky Puffy CoatS said at 2:12 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Love that Dawk and White comprise 75% of the votes.

  62. 62 botto said at 2:20 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    eric allen, dawk, an TO on his best behavior

  63. 63 RobNE said at 2:21 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    the other day we were talking about the upcoming NHL draft. So are people happy with how the Flyers did?

  64. 64 CrackSammich said at 2:44 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    The internet seems to like the moves. I have trouble truly getting excited about the NHL draft considering you won’t see any of those picks on the ice for years if ever. Especially when the Flyers were so hell bent on buying free agents rather than developing talent for so many years. Hextall seems to be making the boring moves (cap saving moves, restocking the farm clubs), which is a welcome surprise.

  65. 65 GEAGLE said at 2:51 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Replace cedrick Thornoton with Jerome Brown!
    ..
    3rd down our 4 man line would be Barwin, Jerome Brown, Cox, Curry/Graham
    ..
    Let’s see you block that lol… You might need to designate 4 lineman just to block Cox and Jerome

    T.O would be awesome. He was in such hood Shape, he could run our high tempo all day while CBs huff and puff

  66. 66 EagleNebula said at 4:30 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/jkelce/status/615533860458266627

  67. 67 Ark87 said at 4:44 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I love Kempski’s response(s) to this.

  68. 68 botto said at 4:50 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    who was that last great punter for the giants? that kicked it to Djax with 0.0 seconds left?
    now THAT guy needs to be interviewed over and over….

  69. 69 EagleNebula said at 4:54 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Dodge, at this point it is tradition for the Giants punters to give up TDs to the Eagles returners

  70. 70 Avery Greene said at 5:21 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Saw this and laughed. Kelce is the man.

  71. 71 GEAGLE said at 6:00 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    The idiot punter was on 97.5thefanatic today backpeddling more then a DB..

  72. 72 Avery Greene said at 5:23 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I disagree about Cunningham. Buddy allowed that, but he may have been a different QB/player if he came in under different coaching.

  73. 73 Avery Greene said at 5:27 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Hmnmm. That’s tough.

    Offense I’m stuck between Cunningham or Watters. Sometimes I’d like to think what TO would do for this receiving corps, but he’s not a CK guy.

    Defense is the harder one. Dawk would be perfect, but the thought of Brown on this DL gives me chills. Brown, Vincent, or Sheppard could play outside for me.

  74. 74 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:28 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    So who saw Jaccpot, Antonio Brown n Steven Jackson make their acting debuts on Ballers!

  75. 75 GEAGLE said at 5:57 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Even worse, Jaccpot,Jaccass is getting his own reality show.. Smh

  76. 76 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:06 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    haha for real.. Ballers you have to be a NFL or Football fan at least to enjoy it.. Making money n hooking up with groupies lol

  77. 77 GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Think it’s on BET and the first episode airs this week or next week.. It’s about him and his family off the field… God help us all
    ..
    I saw the first episode of BALLERS, didn’t watch last nights episode yet.. Basically looks like a football version of entourage combined with some Ray Donavon.. Sucks that it’s only a half hour show

  78. 78 Javi Echie said at 7:12 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    What makes Jackson’s show even more hilarious is that its about his “entrepreneurship endeavors that aren’t football related”. Is it just me or does it seem inevitable that Jackson will be broke 5 years after retirement?

  79. 79 Media Mike said at 7:16 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    50 cent put food coloring and a min Fred Flinstone into a plastic bottle, called it Vitamin Water, and sold it for a king’s ransom.

    You can never tell when one nonsense “entrepreneurship endeavor” is going to pay off.

  80. 80 Javi Echie said at 7:18 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Very true but I do not put Desean in the same category as 50 because for all of 50’s nonsense he is actually a very smart and savvy businessman. Vitamin water, headphones, record label, sneakers, clothing line. That is a smart man. Desean on the other I don’t think he is on that level of being smart.

  81. 81 Media Mike said at 7:20 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I might counter with you can’t be a complete dope (even on the football team) and be admitted into Cal Berkeley.

  82. 82 Javi Echie said at 7:27 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Cmon brother we’re talking about a football player getting into college. We both know that if you’re good at playing sports colleges don’t really care how smart you are most of the time.

  83. 83 Media Mike said at 7:30 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    That’s fair, but I think you’re being way to harsh on Jackson.

  84. 84 GEAGLE said at 7:54 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Considering he still doesn’t,know how to correctly use the word “Myself” he probably isn’t the Posterchild for a Cal education … As long as he got the minimum on the SATs they were letting him in cal or whatever school he chose

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 7:40 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Jaccpot pay off? It’s what will ruin him.

  86. 86 GEAGLE said at 7:39 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Oh Noooooo. It’s about that Crackpot/Jaccpot nonsense? Even worse…
    ..,
    Doubt people will be lining up for financial advice for him. Put it to you that way….. This dude has like a 30mil head start and I bet I retire before him lol

  87. 87 Media Mike said at 5:52 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Eric Allen seems to be an easy choice on D. A “just about” HOF talent at CB.

  88. 88 GEAGLE said at 6:04 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Byron Maxwell was on Sirus radio today Raving about Bradford. Intweview got me all Jacked up

  89. 89 GEAGLE said at 6:21 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Mr credibility Elliot PARKER claims Mofitt took less many to sign with the Eagles. We gave him no GUARENTEED money and the minimum salary, while he allegedly turned down GUARENTEED money from the Texans.
    ..
    Who knows what’s true when it comes from Parks, but if that’s the case, sounds like a man who is confident and serious about trying to win a starting spot here..
    ..
    Derrick Gunn is on TV talking about how this is a risky signing for chip because of his past Deamons…. Apparently getting to take a no GUARENTEED flier on a guard who is a few years removed from being a 3rd round Talemt, who gave up zero sacks the last season he played is “risky” according to genius Gunn… I’m just happy to see that after chip put so much Emphasis on Building This CULTIRE, he is using the CULTIRE to trust that it can handle taking a look at a talent who may be able to help us who isn’t a boyscout…

  90. 90 Kelce's Beard said at 9:39 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    do you always capitalize the words you can’t spell?

  91. 91 Ben said at 11:30 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    LOL…thanks Bro that got me laughing and after a rough few days I needed that.

  92. 92 ACViking said at 6:38 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    AVERY GREENE:

    Great weekend for the Flyers.

    Love both 1st Rd picks.

    And the 5th Rd pick, David Kase — sleeper.

    Better yet, whatever the lip service, he’s not moved by that win-now imperative.

    Stockpile, stockpile, stockpile.

  93. 93 Media Mike said at 6:45 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    And got rid of Grossmann, Grossman’s deal, and Pronger’s deal for a 3rd or 4th.

    And got rid of Rinaldo for a 3rd.

    Just need to get Vinny moved after July 1 along with moving one more guy on D.

    Things are looking up.

  94. 94 ACViking said at 6:47 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Hear, hear.

    Like those moves.

    Hextall’s playing the long game . . .

    which is long overdue here.

  95. 95 Media Mike said at 6:52 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    There is a ton of talent in the pipeline. Now what do you do with this for D for 2015-16?

    Streit, MacDonald, Schenn, Schultz, Del Zotto, Gudas, Medvedev, Provorov, Manning, Sandhiem, Morin, Ghost.

  96. 96 ACViking said at 6:59 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Do you see any of the “Big 5” — IP, Ghost, Morin, Sanheim, Hagg — being frontline players this upcoming season?

    If so, how does Hextall move the vets to clear playing time? (Do a couple of them have expiring contracts?)

    And McDonald . . . what to do with him.

  97. 97 Media Mike said at 7:06 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I didn’t include Hagg (and probably shouldn’t have included Ghost) because he’s not quite NHL ready just yet from what I’ve read.

    Sandhiem and Morin would need to have dynamite camps in order to make the jump into the NHL for 2015-16.

    Here is their cap in a nice chart.

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=PHI

    Assume Schenn is the guy they can move (but he’s right at that point in career where a lot of D men turn the corner, so it would pain me to see him blossom elsewhere) for a draft pick due to the expiring deal.

    That still leaves them with an overall mix of Streit, MacDonald, Medvedev, Schultz, Del Zotto, Manning, Gudas, and Provorov.

    So I guess:
    Top 6: Streit, Schultz, Medvedev, DelZotto, MacDonald, Provorov
    7th guy to spell Provorov – Gudas
    8th guy – Manning, but stash him in the minors.

  98. 98 ACViking said at 7:27 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    That’s A LOT of defensemen.

    Have to believe that Hex sees 2015-16 as a transitional season with low expectations.

  99. 99 Media Mike said at 7:29 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    And as a fan I know they need another year to “get right” for a deep playoff run. For 2015-16 I’d settle for

    – a slight improvement to a the 7th or 8th playoff seed
    – a win over scumbag Pittsburgh in the first round

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 6:58 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I was having trouble figuring out how Moffitt was already 28 years old (and will turn 29 during the season) if he was a 2011 draft pick.

    Moffitt has a very odd backgroud.

    He was born in October of 1986. He graduated HS in June of 2006. Uh, what? My brother has an October b-day in 78. He graduated in 97. Even if Moffitt didn’t have his parents start him in school a year early, he should have been a 2005 graduate. For as cerebral of a position as O-line is; I’m not sure what being a 19 year old HS graduate tells me about what that guy has between his ears especially coupled with the thug behavior off of the field with drugs, criminal trespass, etc.

    Even if the guy has turned around the nonsense in his personal life, I’m afraid he’s kind of dumb.

  101. 101 TypicalDouche said at 7:09 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    “I’m afraid he’s kind of dumb” which can also apply to 80% of the NFL.

  102. 102 Media Mike said at 7:13 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Yeah, but I that can be a fatal flaw on O-line. It is a little more complicated than having Prime Time run around with a WR all game.

  103. 103 TypicalDouche said at 7:16 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Yea I hear ya friend, but if he did start for the Eagles he’d be playing in between Kelce and Johnson which should ease any transition. Also apparently to kid was pretty good in college so as long as he has football smarts, he can be as dumb as a doorknob for all I care. Lets hope he can put it all together on the field like he did his life then maybe the Eagles got themselves a steal.

  104. 104 Media Mike said at 7:17 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    No doubt, but that 2nd red flag is another strike against the guy.

    But at least he’s cheap and won’t cost them a penny if he’s cut prior to the season, so nothing but reward with zero risk.

  105. 105 GEAGLE said at 7:52 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    He has been training with Jay Glazier, who is endorsing the man p..typically Glazier hasn’t endorsed many guys that went on to look bad…he is one of the few people in the media who take,their credibility serious
    ..
    No doubt he has more talent then some of the OL at our training camp, so I’m glad they are taking a no risk flier on the guy, no guaranteed money, I’m sure he has more talent and ability then one of the UDFAs..
    ..
    last year we added Old man Wade…this is a much more talented player.. No risk, potentially some solid reward…
    ..
    Hopefully being away from the game really made him miss it and he is joining us hungry to work his way back onto a football field, instead of soley being motivated by a paycheck and being happy just making the roster or getting a camp pay check..
    ..
    The man is coming back at the age of 29… Hopefully he has matured and put his Deamons behind him

  106. 106 D3FB said at 7:38 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    He went to a prep school in CT.

    Maybe he had a postgrad year.

  107. 107 GEAGLE said at 7:42 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Lol Dolphins trying to get some money back from Dion Jordan… That’s what you get, for trying to be slick and trade ahead of us…
    .

  108. 108 Media Mike said at 7:44 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    And I’ll take pro-bowler to be Lane Johnson over that crackhead Jordan any day of the week.

  109. 109 philllyfanatic said at 7:46 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    I love Reggie and Dawk, but I’ll play contrarian and go with Jerome Brown. Can you imagine Jerome Brown anchoring the middle commanding double teams beside Fletcher Cox and Ced Thornton. It would spring linebackers from all four spots anytime we wanted to run a linebacker blitz. Jerome Brown would complete this defense.

  110. 110 Media Mike said at 7:49 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    His playing weight was listed at 292 with a height of 6-2. That doesn’t strike me as big enough to play NT in a 3-4, but then I look at this picture and go————I see 330 lbs!

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/Jerome_Brown_of_the_Philadelphia_Eagles_(ca._1991).jpg

  111. 111 GEAGLE said at 8:00 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    We play 4 man lines on 3rd down…. Plus he was so damn strong he could probably two gap just fine

    BARWIN, Jerome,Cox, Curry/Graham.. With Kiko and Kendricks blitzing Behnd them.. Teams would have to designate 4 lineman just to block Brown and Cox on 3rd down…. I would love to see that personnel in the hands of Jim Johnson… Heck, keep that as our 4-3, Trotter at MLB, Kemdricks on weakside, and Kiko at SAM…. danger! danger! danger!

  112. 112 Media Mike said at 8:01 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    You missed my point, I think Brown was actually pudgy enough to play NT.

  113. 113 Tdoteaglefan said at 8:22 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Nfl network doing a “top 10 qb teases” list and Bobby hoying was number 8 . jesus christ i just. Simultaneously got chills and nausea..such a terrible feeling reliving those times.

    On another note..2 other current eagles are on the list…sanchez at #10 and tebow just came in at #6 lol…

  114. 114 Media Mike said at 8:55 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    What number is Cam Newton?

  115. 115 Oscar said at 11:02 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    Evan Mathis…he was good.

  116. 116 Ben said at 11:14 PM on June 29th, 2015:

    There are so many players that could be special under Chip Kelly, that picking just one was more difficult than I thought it would be.
    If I had to pick a QB, I would have to go with Jaws, for a couple of reasons.
    Not only was he traded to the Eagles by Rams,(Sound familar?), but Chip once said, “The best ability is availability”, and during a 7 year span Jaws had 123 consecutive starts without missing a game, showing the durability that Chip covets.
    I think Sam is going to be a star in this offense, so I did not choose Jaws.
    Since we were talking about current team needs at the moment, I knew exactly who my pick would be.
    Brian Dawkins as we are in need of great safety play and there is no greater current need IMO.
    Chip would have loved coaching this team with a player like BDawk leading his defense, as he was one of just two previous Eagles players that could not only inspire his teammates, but an entire city.
    Whenever he stepped onto the field, you knew you were in the presence of greatness and only Reggie could come close to that level of inspiration.

    He made the players around him better and that’s a trait that cannot be measured.

    The level of intensity that BDawk brought to the field each and every game, has not been seen since his departure as he was truly the heart and soul of the Eagles.

  117. 117 McNabbulousness said at 2:58 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    pretty easy:

    offense-’04 mcnabb
    defense-’02 dawkins

  118. 118 Avery Greene said at 5:57 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Move over CK, there’s a new Sheriff in town.

    http://www.nba.com/sixers/news/150629-martin-hired

  119. 119 Julescat said at 6:35 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Bob Brown didn’t want to play in Philadelphia. That’s why he left.

    no thanks. I’ll pass on him.

  120. 120 Weapon Y said at 6:59 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Agree that Weapon X is the way to go. But here’s an interesting one: TO. Physically, he’s the ideal Kelly receiver. Something tells me Chip would have cut him just like Andy though.

  121. 121 EagleNebula said at 9:17 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    He would have been cut as soon as he pulled the driveway stunt.

  122. 122 Stephen E. said at 11:52 AM on June 30th, 2015:

    Reggie played at over 280, so I don’t see him having any trouble rushing from 3-4 DE. J.J. Watt doesn’t. Could try him at OLB, but I feel like he was born to have a hand in the dirt and face to face with a lineman.

    That being said, Dawk would provide the most striking benefit to this team, as it stands. I look at the D as three units: DL, LB, and DB. If you have solid starters at every position, and ONE elite player in each unit, you cannot be stopped. We have Cox, and take your pick at LB (I’ll choose Alonso). We need that elite player at DB.

  123. 123 phillychuck said at 1:32 PM on June 30th, 2015:

    Can’t be anyone but Dawk. The fit is pretty much perfect. And Dawk made everyone on D play better by his leadership and how well he diagnosed plays.

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