The Vision Becomes Clearer
Posted: August 26th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 183 Comments »Great coaches usually have a vision for a team. Andy Reid wanted a West Coast Offense that could really throw the ball. He wanted a 4-3 defense that was good at zone blitzing. He took STs seriously. Reid preferred big OL and speedy DL.
Chip Kelly also has a vision. It is more specific than Reid’s.
Kelly wants big defenders. He wants Safeties that have good enough cover skills that they can play the slot. Kelly wants tall DL. He wants tall, athletic OL. He needs a Center that has very good movement skills. Receivers should be big, but must be able to block. He prefers downhill runners. STs is a priority.
In terms of scheme, Kelly is going to run his offense (with NFL passing concepts mixed in). He wants a 3-4 defense that 2-gaps. And Kelly wants a no-huddle, up-tempo team. Not just offense. The whole team is built to work at that pace.
Then there is the culture side of things. Reid took some players in the draft that Kelly likely wouldn’t touch. That’s not to pass judgment. Time will tell if Kelly’s ideas work as well as Reid’s. But Kelly is more specific in his vision and so far has been more dogmatic in bringing that vision to life.
I talked about how the team’s showing against the Ravens let’s us see some of Kelly’s vision.
* Dropback QB threw the ball well
* Wave of RBs was productive
* Skilled DBs came up with INTs
* Another big play by STs
I’ve mentioned this before, but in some ways Chip Kelly is the offensive version of Buddy Ryan. Ryan’s number one goal on defense? It wasn’t to stop the offense from scoring. It wasn’t to stop the offense from moving the ball. It wasn’t to hit the QB. It wasn’t to get the ball. Buddy’s number one goal for his defense…score.
Think about that.
Kelly coaches offense so of course he wants to score points. But Kelly has the same mentality as Ryan. Kelly wants the defense to score. He wants STs to score. Any time the ball is snapped on the field, there is a chance to score points.
Kelly has built the Eagles to be aggressive. He has loaded the roster with playmakers all over. Kenjon Barner has 2 PR scores this preseason. And he’s the backup at that spot. Guys like Bryan Braman and Trey Burton aren’t just good STers in terms of coverage and tackling. They are skilled at penetrating and getting pressure on punters. The Eagles didn’t block kicks by accident last year. It was by design. The coaches taught the players how to do it and the team got the right players to execute those ideas.
Score points.
Kelly sees every player on his team as some sort of weapon. Just think about his mentality with WRs and run blocking. Kelly would be furious if the OL did a great job and the RB hit the hole to create a potentially huge play, only to see a DB make the tackle because the WR didn’t do his part. Everyone can affect every play. Think that way. Practice that way. Play that way.
I think the 2015 roster is the best of the Kelly era. This group is also best suited to making his vision come to life. I can’t wait to see how things go this year.
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Watching the HBO Inside sports segment on Pulansky high school football coach Kevin Kelley, who has built a dominant high school program by refusing to Ever Punt, and ONLY kicking onside kicks…they won 4 state titles playing this unorthodox brand of football, he developed based soley on Probability…. At the end of the segment he said two NFL teams have had him in as a guest to pick his brain, one team was the Falcons, the second team he refused to Identify because he took a “vow of secrecy”….. If bet Chip Kelly and the Eagles are the second team to have him and ask him to not identify them.
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.if there was a coach in the NFL receptive/curious about this alternate way of playing the game, odds are its probably the chipper…… They did the math to check the numbers behind this coaches approach and they came up with 75% of the time Teams convert on 4th and 1, yet a lot of coaches are so afraid of the consequences for not converting that they pass up on 75% success rate and punt the ball… The Math also says that in between the 40 yard lines, you should go for anything up to 4th and 8…
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This team once won a title, scoring 28 to 0 in the first 4 minutes of the game, because they got the ball first and scored, then converted the next 3 onside kicks and scored every time… This team scored 28pts before the opposing offense even got to touch the ball, and this came against one of the best teams in the state…. He has like 9 different variations of onside kicks,
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And next season, he is going to unleash this new system he has been working on, “Rugby Ball”, basically he wants to run plays like Rugby when they pitch the ball backwards a bunch of times like a rugby game.
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Interestng stuff… I look forward to checking this high school team out next season… If Only I had a reason to go to Arkansas I would love to catch a game in person
I have thought for a long time that elements of ‘rugby’ should play a bigger role in football. If you look at rugby players, the drop % is very low, and not a significant fumble or turn over risk. The ability to take 1 or even 2 players out of a play with a good pass could spring big X plays.
The only issue i see is that forward pass rules are different in rugby to football. In rugby they take account of the forward momentum of the player so the ball just needs to go backwards relative to the passer, not the ground. To be ‘compliant’ with NFL rules you need to pass significantly behind you which is actually is quite hard to do at a full run.
that rugby guy on SF seems to be having some success as a returner in camp.
That is definitely interesting stuff right there.
Did you watch the segment?
Really interesting stuff… The coach has some interesting concepts that make sense… I highly suggest checking it out for anyone who hasn’t seen if….. It’s on the recent Inside sports HBO the same episode with Rex Ryan talking about jets management sabotaging him, the Kemohato brothers (I def spelled that name terribly wrong) but the Big Samoans, one won a supeebowl with Ravens and the other brother won a Super Bowl with the steelers and the older brother had to retire early to donate his kidney to his younger brother who would have died with out it, apparently it’s not easy to find donor kidneys big enough to fit the body of a 400lb Samoan..
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Real good episode, but the high school football coach was really fascinating..
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He said the Falcons brought him in to pick his brain and another team that swore him to secrecy, as soon as I heard that, I’d bet anything it was chip
http://overthecap.com/xxplosive-by-dr-dre-pete-carroll-and-chip-kelly/
Really interesting article on OTC last week talking about how Chip is building the roster and his priorities going forward. The interesting thing it looked at was how the run game grew and grew every year he was with Oregon, and that it is probably the thing he prioritises above everything else from an offensive philosophy.
Think we could run the ball more than any analyst or fantasy guru is predicting this year, I could see a 55/45 run pass split easily being the kind of level Chip wants.
Yes Fufina, you echo my thoughts on priorities as well. Chip wants to accelerate the fatigue of opposing D players to foster assignment mistakes. He then can hit them with over-the-top passes that penalize safeties and CBs who bite the cheese. This strategy promotes very high scoring games and a giddy fan base. The master wizard is about to weave his spells in the NFL.
that’s a great article, thanks for sharing
Need quality ol
Yup still need the horses to pull the cart and still not sold there is much depth here at all right now.
Was great to see Baby Huey Chris Polk doing well on hard knocks last night.. If he can stay healthy, he should really thrive for the Texans… While he looks like a bruising 1st and 2nd down back, he catches better then you would think, and picks up Blitzes well….. I hope the kid flourishes and becomes a starting 3 down RB for them in the next couple of years
Every fan at this point of the pre-season is excited. Don’t get too high or too low after preseason games. Stay healthy!
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“Time will tell if Kelly’s ideas work as well as Reid’s.” — don’t we already know about Reids ideas?
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I’m still a bit bothered as to why we’ve waited this long for CK to start implementing his vision. I get the whole Howie and power struggle thing .. but CK’s vision should have been known from the day CK was hired. So either it’s a shame on HR or the owner for not allowing this to start to happen sooner.
my guess is Kelly had to wait out the contracts. he’s shipped off or cut guys he didnt want first chance. i know other new hires chop-shop while ink is still drying on contract, but Eagles/Lurie are way too mindful of salary cap. sure Kelly had plenty of behind the scenes discussions, figuring out timing, and how when each cut would effect future.
True. It appears CK is not only a ‘now’ coach, he’s also a ‘future’ looking GM. I hope all this ‘building’ process brings years of success.
If you listen to Kelly’s running narration, he wants his offense to take what the D is giving, and he has built a D that reacts to what the offense is trying to do. He has said that, when he arrived, his first order of business was determining who was his starting QB, and it is a tall order to retrofit an entire 53 man roster. I don’t think he was waiting so much as learning what he had, what he lacked, and what he needed to do. I agree that we do know about AR’s ideas.
Disagree…change takes time. Chip is not doing anything super revolutionary, but he has a strong and specific vision and earned the full authority to implement it this off-season. This season hopefully is when we take the next step – win a playoff game at least and be a legit contender.
Again, I know some feel the need to dismiss Reid, but he has a very good case as the best Eagles coach in their history and won everything there is to win except the SB which, as we know, is extremely difficult. Chip has not won a playoff game yet. Time will tell if Chip does as well or better than Reid. Just because Reid has not won a SB yet does not mean his ideas are bogus.
Stay healthy indeed, especially on the OL and DL
I hear what you’re saying. I do think CK is being super revolutionary though. I see your point on having to earn it since he’s new in the NFL. As an owner though, either you buy in to your hire or you don’t. Sounds like he wanted to hedge his bet. Sounds like Lurie said — ok, I accept you and your new ideas, however, I’ll keep HR on board to keep you under control. Glad we’re finally seeing CK being ‘unchained’. Should be a fun ride. Looking forward to it.
He’s really not, Chip has some new ideas for sure, but most of his approach has been as an integrationist if such a word exists. He integrates the various concepts, strategies etc. that he has picked up/discovered into a cohesive unit that can be taught easily and executed effectively for each unit of a team, facet of a football program. It is all aligned to the goals the organization wants to achieve.
The read option, the player size parameters, the sports science, use of analytics etc. are not new ideas – other organizations in the NFL and/or outside have used or currently use some of them. The difference with Chip is in how tightly integrated the whole system is and how it is being implemented in such a disciplined and methodical way.
I have no problem with Lurie giving Chip time to figure out what needed to be done during his first two seasons and then giving him the full authority over the team. Any owner would have done some form of that approach; its smart since it protects the organization in case Chip is a failure, but also gives Chip the support & time he needs to be successful.
I agree, his base approach has been around for years. However, CK is taking those concepts to all new levels. Tweak here, tweak there. Get numbers on his side for such plays. That’s where I give him credit for being revolutionary. A handful of coaches uses the same base scheme/approach but they are not nearly as successful as CK. CK is a whole level above those coaches.
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I don’t think CK sits there and says “this is my play and we’ll run this play until we perfect it”. I think he says “ok, this is our play and not only will we master it, we’ll morph that same play into many different options”. I think that’s what separates him from other coaches. His plays aren’t single dimensional(like, let’s get X player open). His plays are multi-levels. Coach Coughlin, I think is single dimensional. Same with Parcels. I guess I hold CK at a higher level.
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I don’t agree that any owner would do the same — because we’re watching some organizations have a revolving door as HC. HC’s are giving, most of the time, a 3 year plan to turn the team around. They don’t give a “let’s see what you can do in 2 years and I’ll give you the keys to the kingdom in year 3”.
I think we’re basically saying the same things, but I’m not sure how more successful Chip has been than other coaches that have leveraged some or all of these elements. Pete Carroll for example uses several of these elements and he has been much more successful than Chip, having won the championship at the college and NFL levels. You mention Coughlin as one dimensional and I agree, but he’s got 2 SB trophies in his case so Chip still has some work to do. Parcells I disagree with you, Parcells was not one dimensional.
I think any owner that would hire Chip knows 3 years is not going to be enough plus Chip would never go to those quick trigger organizations anyway. I think what Lurie did was very smart; he wants a long term coach who can win him a SB and be competitive every year. Yes, he hired Chip, but one never knows for sure until you’re actually in the foxhole with the other guy and live bullets are flying around…once Lurie saw his program start to work, he was ready to give him the keys and did.
Aside from waiting out contracts, I think he also gave players a chance to prove they fit in the system. He also felt out the NFL to see what he can and cant get away with
Correct PC, he’s was getting to know the players, their capabilities, and the NFL way. Now he is prepared but I think the NFL is about to get a big surprise. This season has potential.
something I don’t often do, is disagree with you. It has nothing to do with knowing the players. I think one of CK’s motto is — I can win with, or without you. CK has let known talent go. Why? Because he can win with less. It’s not knowing their capabilities. CK is making moves without a net(at times). He’s able to do that because he knows with his scheme, less(at talent) can still work.
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I do believe that CK is amazing. I think without constraints CK makes more changes years 1 and 2.
Not to argue the point eagleyankfan (yet here I go), the player algorithm is a lot more complex. Cap to talent to position importance ratio, culture-fit, football IQ, football obsession level, leadership, metrics, injury propensity (sports science stuff), etc. These things can take time to flesh out; however, in the case of DeSean, things became clear very quickly.
I don’t disagree with you on those points at all. However, too much, is well, too much. McCoy would hit on 90% of those, however, missed on cap. Can CK replace Shady’s production for less money? Yes. Why? Scheme.
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Mathis. Passes ALL of those. Yet CK can let him walk. Why? He can replace his production with lesser talent. Because of scheme.
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There is no way – Casey Mathews(only on team because of injury) and Nate Allen pass 50% of those grading, yet they were on the team.
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Cole — passes 90% of them .. but can be let go for the same reason as above…
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etc etc etc…yes, he has grading systems/evaluations but it’s not always as complicated(or as black and white) as we make it…
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There is no way Sanchez/Barkley are on this team for 50% of those reasons above…
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Ok, here’s what I’m trying to say(I’m not good at explaining my thoughts) — CK is a very intelligent man. I can’t buy it that an intelligent man would build a system(his team) based on having very specific people at each position that possess specific skills. There’s no way he’d be able to mandate such players(given players move around each year or simply, don’t exist). CK knows this. So what’s the best approach? Build a system where positions aren’t demanding of elite players, but a system where players are interchangeable. CK’s version of plug and play. Now, I know you can’t take me and plug me(meaning anybody) at guard to replace Mathis. There has to be some grading system(what you stated above) — but that doesn’t mean, you need have replace Mathis with a person with only Mathis’ talent. It can be lesser talent because of scheme.
I agree with Cliff (below) about planning out the change from a contract perspective. But he also had to see which members of the roster he inherited might be a fit with his vision (scheme, culture, etc.) Take Curry and Graham for example. I doubt even Chip Kelly thought they fit his scheme initially. But with Chip’s patience and the player’s willingness to learn, it seems to have been worth the wait. As an ex-college coach, his vision is to take raw talent (often, unique to his schemes) and develop the players with the best coaching (Undlin, for example) and sports science/conditioning.
Also imagine the impact of an early wholesale “sell-off” on the “sales price” of the players he would unload. And such a massive roster change would severely reduce the chances for any type of interim success (critical to the team’s self-confidence, which is really difficult to rebuild, when lost).
What’s the over/under on the number of games Bradford starts.
19
First round bye, huh?
haha damn right!
It is actually 8 in Vegas.
Last I saw it was 9.5, actually. If I can find 8 I would take that over.
They honestly think he is gonna miss half the season?
Push
I liked Mathis but this BS he’s spewing is pissing me off, probably cause it’s insulting to anyone with a brain. “You can’t put a price on peace of mind” wtf? He gave up a two year contract for a one year contract worth less money to play for a team with almost same SB odds. Is less security peace of mind? And he never broke the bank on his earlier contracts that he can go chase a ring. You F’d up.
There’s always going to be spin when someone messes up.
Exactly…it is BS but we all knew it was coming whenever Mathis finally signed somewhere. Rosenfraud pulled out the “mystery team” angle to cover the reality he screwed over his client and Mathis blathered on about how Denver is a contender and that was more important than $$ to cover over why he allowed himself to be misled. The grass is not always greener in more ways than one
There will be plenty of grass where he’s going.
They do not call it Mile High just due to the elevation….
I think the theory ACViking put forth rings true. If this was Rosenhaus, he would have been fired. This must have come from Mathis.
I think it is pretty impressive that Rosenhaus was able to navigate his way through this storm to still represent Mathis at signing.
Alternate theory: Rosenhaus is a Sith Lord.
There’s always two: a master and an apprentice.
Maybe he’ll become an associate at Rosenhaus Sports when he retires.
He might be hinting at being afraid of being traded.
Then he shouldn’t have asked for one.
Yeah, until the contract situation EM was an ideal Chip player he wouldn’t of been shipped off.
And now his family needs to move halfway across the country. GG Mathis…
He was alluding to the fact that he had zero GUARANTEED dollars in his Eagles contract, I believe. Whereas, he now has $2.5M guaranteed, I believe.
I thought that Reid wanted Jim Johnson as his DC because of the latter’s success against GB. It seemed more that Johnson was the proponent of zone blitz schemes than AR. Reid delegated. Reid’s aptitude for defensive concepts and philosophies was laid bare when Johnson passed.
Agreed. We need injuries to break our way, but this team has as high of a ceiling as we’ve seen in a long time.
And to round out the overall vision, I would include Chip the GM and his financial resource allocation(s). Like his detailed philosophies on offense and defense, I think Chip the GM has a very detailed plan for financial allocation by position group as it relates to his philosophies on offense and defense. And, I think he uses that philosophical vision in contract negotiations as a means to foster team building and win/win scenarios for both team and player. I don’t know that Chip will ever have the highest paid player at any position on his team.
Chip stuck to his price thresholds with Maclin and Mathis. He knew Boykin was going to be offered outside starter money and chose to get something in return. He let MeSean walk rather than overpay, and his trading of McCoy for Kiko and freeing up of cap space for Ryans/Mathews could turn out to be an all time transaction. Plus, he stepped up and rewarded Barwin for a job well done. Chip paid top dollar for Maxwell, but also drafted a slew of DBs to start the process of growing that position group internally.
As Chip’s plan becomes clearer to all, it will become self-evident why he needed full control to make his overall plan a success. What will be interesting to measure is Chip’s success/influence as a GM vs Chip’s success/influence as a HC.
Well stated. Your points got me to thinking specifically about the Suggs hit on Bradford, and the official league correction. Someone on this board wrote to the effect that “the league wants Kelly to fail”. And when you consider that the league is 31 franchises other than the one Kelly is guiding, it stands to reason that he is a big, annoying presence. If Kelly gets close to the mother lode this year, 30 ego-driven billionaires will sooner go after that pain in the ass, than try to find his clone out in the ether. This is a virtual soap opera.
I think Kelly or rather the articles and attention on him can be viewed as “he thinks he is smarter than everyone” and that translates into a lot of folks wanting to see him fail. This can be sportswriters, other coaches, other team’s fans, Grandpa Simpson, etc. There is all kinds of things you can pick on, like oh Kelly is the first person ever to try to keep his players healthy, or he runs a college option offense or he didn’t put in his time in the NFL or he traded [name] and only an idiot would do that.
It’s like these folks are ok losing to better talent, but losing to the Eagles somehow means a gimmick won. [that is how they feel not me] so they are rooting really hard against Kelly.
I don’t think it’s the “league” as the Eagles doing well is likely great for ratings. They are an exciting team, more exciting than most.
Sure. It’s just like when Spurrier came into the league. Or Fun’N’Gun. There will always be resistance to change and folks a bit too big for their britches. In the NBA, there were a lot of people who hated the D’Antoni Suns, too. The Eagles are the most exciting team in the league when the offense is rolling.
I agree with the envy and spite you are pointing to, but I also think that the billionaires are classic imitators who can enjoy their revenues and still burn to be the next dynasty, and will become totally exasperated trying to find a guy out there who is as comprehensively detailed and ambitious and indifferent to naysayers as Kelly. And to have to turn over the keys to the vault to such a person? It will be far easier and chicken-shit-like to just fight him in the owners meetings. I expect more Blandinoisms to be handed down.
I think the billionaires will step over each other trying to find the next Chip if he works out. It’s the “football guys”, the coaches, GMs, scouts, and everyone else, that have a hard time with any kind of new ideas. Their profession is super competitive, and that means it’s supposed to be hard, and no outsider can crack it. Until an outsider does. It’s like the old maxim: “a conservative is someone who thinks nothing should ever be done for the first time.”
It’s like the scene in “Moneyball”, with all the scouts treating Beane like he’s an idiot when he’s the only person actually seeing the big picture.
I think the owners are more likely to try to copy whatever seems to work, whether it does or not, than to have the entrenched conservatism that their “football guys” have. That’s far more the MO of big business these days (wildly try copying whatever seems to work without ever stopping to think about WHY it works).
I would fully expect them to try for awhile, but “college” and “innovator” have failed way more than they have succeeded and I think many owners won’t take up the challenge for fear of going from decent to abysmal or good to bad or bad to worse. Also, I have a higher opinion of some of the HC’s in the league than you do. Their agenda is simply to win, and I think most of them view their successful counterparts with respect.
Reid is a good coach, but he follows the WCO template with JJ’s D, so he is often stubborn and does things based on the execution rather than logic. Everything Chip does is not logically supported by ‘what would Bill Walsh do?’ but his own private strategy, so that means he can change or adapt to situations but he’s always proving his own hypothesis, one that was historically successful at Oregon and is being configured to the NFL.
Chip was asked on ESPN what it felt like to have everything thinking about what he’s thinking and he replied “I don’t think about what I’m thinking about as much as you think about what I’m thinking about.” I had a phase where I would play out the best games in the history of chess. This is better.
“I don’t think about what I’m thinking about as much as you think about what I’m thinking about.” Princess Bride worthy.
The Eagles will be starting Kendricks and Graham: two guys who do not fit the size prototypes. But here Kelly has shown that he can make exceptions when the other factors make sense and that he is not as inflexible as some in the press would make out. But more importantly he has built a defense that potentially can suffocate many offenses. I am eagerly looking forward to the season and hope to see Eagles defenses that remind us of the Buddy Ryan days and the Dawkins, Vincent, Taylor, Douglas days of 2003 — Not necessarily in the specifics but in how they frustrate and destroy the competition.
On offense Kelly has let go of talent like DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, Todd Herremans and Evan Mathis for no compensation. Yet the receiving corps looks pretty good and the O line is shaping up well even if there are some depth issues. The offense shows every indication of being potent – perhaps even more potent than the recent past. Next offseason Kelly will solve the O line depth and the OLB depth issues. But this year Kelly has used the cap space from those departures and others well. This year the Eagles will be a team to be feared.
Kelly is way better than just good – he is brilliant, sublime, aggressive to the max, and confident. Just the kind of person you want in a leader.
I hope the O is better than in the recent past, because it was nothing more than mediocre last year.
Yes, I agree. I shouldn’t have tempered my enthusiasm so much on that one. But if Bradford is as good as he should be, the power running game works, Matthews and Ertz improve as expected the Eagles should have a top offense. I believe all of these mentioned factors are highly likely to be realized.
Given that Sanchez played…there wasn’t much hope for the O.
Too much praise given what they have accomplished so far and lumping together Jackson, Maclin, Herremans, and Mathis is bogus given the widely different situations for each.
I really like Kelly the coach; still not sold that much including his offseason on Kelly the GM especially on getting ideal value for assets.
he plays a little fast and loose at some positions but I think he’s done a great job improving the roster for the type of team he thinks can win games. He’s not afraid to cut stars (a good thing and a bad thing) if he thinks they don’t fit. I also like that he only brings in overachievers, even if they aren’t the most talented they’ll maximize talent.
Shurmur says Dennis Kelly has had a nice training camp. I don’t put as much stock in Shurmur’s comments as I do Kelly’s and Davis’s because Shurmur tends to compliment everyone.
There is a good life lesson in that statement.
you always say such smart things
This article reminded me of that old Woody Hayes quote when a reporter asked him why he went for two after scoring a TD to put the Buckeyes up 50-14 and he replied ‘Because they wouldn’t let me go for three’.
That said, I suspect Chip would be of the same mindset in every game, not just when he’s playing Tom Brady’s Alma Mater.
chris polk getting lots of hard knock shine today
so are throw offs are now starting RB’s in Houston and NE too?
Raiders are so sure of Nate Allen they signed Taylor Mays
Is that the infomercial guy?
At least the infomercial guy is #versatile
Is it Saturday yet?
It all comes down to what happens with Bradford. The supporting cast is in place. Unless we get crazy injuries, it really rests with Bradford how far we are going to go this year.
agree — zerio injuries we’ll be one of the best teams in the NFL OL injuries and it could get ugly real fast
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This has to be the most classic photo of the Eagles for me. I started watching the Eagles just after Randall started coming in to sub for Jaworski. This is the most classic for me.
good story.
wait, what? that’s 1985-1986. Assuming you had to be at least say 7 to actually comprehend what you were watching, that means you were born around 1978. That would make you about 37. You can’t possibly be 37 and trolling this website. I think we all thought maybe you were 14.
37?!? I’m having trouble processing this. I feel bad, actually. Sad.
haha good call Rob.
Welcome to the Internet.
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I think I know exactly who this guy is now. He’s a TATE regular too.
I’m sure we’ll miss his 6 TDs from last year.
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I remember this day. I was at the golfing range with my son. Afterwards we stopped and watched this game and ate wings. Ill never forget it. Traffic was a nightmare because NOBODY was ready for the snow. Everyone was slipping. Not Lesean.
Stan, Chotchkie’s Manager:
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Now, you know it’s up to you whether or not you want to just do the bare minimum. Or… well, like Brian, for example, has thirty seven pieces of flair, okay. And a terrific smile.
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People can get a cheeseburger anywhere, okay? They come to Chotchkie’s for the atmosphere and the attitude. Okay? That’s what the flair’s about. It’s about fun.
The fear is it’s a torn Achilles for #Redskins OLB Junior Galette, per two sources
People are going down like crazy this preseason.
yeah I think he also had a torn pec as well. I don’t know what I’ll do if skins beat us this year.
Me personally, run and hide. I have a ongoing lunch bet with two guys here for the games. Usually I’m good with 4 free lunches a year. Last year I had to dish out 2, and I wasn’t happy.
Not sure anyone deserves such an injury but if anyone does, he is pretty far up the list.
Just caught this piece on CBS Sports, and found it well argued:
ttp://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25279766/nfl-prediction-cards-bengals-among-4-teams-that-wont-return-to-playoffs
I stopped reading at this sentence.
The Cardinals also have perhaps the best coach in the league (minus Bill Belichick) walking on their sidelines.
maybe they mean when we play away there.
Well, she is kinda pretty…
Your link was missing an “h”…
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25279766/nfl-prediction-cards-bengals-among-4-teams-that-wont-return-to-playoffs
Thanks.
Nolan Carroll has been playing in the slot this week in nickel defense. Eric Rowe then takes his place on the outside.
Rowe on the outside against Rogers could be a bloodbath. One way to introduce the rookie to the best QB in football.
I thought EJ biggers would be the 3rd outside guy it seems like he’s really stepped up in coverage against the 2/3s, that said Rowe is terrible in the slot right now.
To be fair Rowe is a baby at Nickle defence and that is not his natural position as he is a bigger stronger type corner who lacks the short space agility to really be a high level slot corner.
agree 100% that they’re just trying to teach him that position, but if we went to nickel, which we might not as much this season anyway, I wouldn’t want Rowe as the starting nickelback.
Have been really impressed by Biggers so far. Wouldn’t be surprised if he’s 3rd CB in.
Put Maxwell on Adams and Carroll on Cobb and let Rowe cover some 4th string WR
Called it. Everyone but Maxwell still hasn’t been locked in yet. Rowe will be better if he has the sideline to work with but I don’t know if he’ll be better than Carroll on the outside right now.
Davis said last week he wanted Carroll to get work in the slot just because he wanted everyone to know how to play both roles. That doesn’t necessarily mean that Carroll won’t start outside(and stay outside in nickel).
It’s cross training week, bunch of DBs are switching spots. We should hear Jenkins and Thurmond playing some nickel this week
Re: Kelly’s Vision – Timing Really Is Everything
What if, instead of entering Kelly Y-3, this season was Kelly Y-4. And Kelly started here after the 2011 season.
Lots of Eagles fans wanted Reid gone after 2007. Then 2009. Then 2011.
Disclosure: I wanted Reid gone early in the 2000 season after he called 40+ passes against the Falcons. Why? Because the Eagles were winning. And they were ripping off big yards on the ground. I lost my voice screaming, “Run the Damn Ball!!!” all afternoon.
The current mythology is Lurie came close to cutting Reid loose after 2011. But decided, “for old time sake,” to give Reid one more shot.
(Didn’t work for Tessio. Didn’t work for Lurie or Reid.)
By January 2012, Kelly was already a red-hot coaching commodity.
He interviewed for the Bucs job that off-season — and, early reports said, he was close to taking it. Not having personnel control ultimately killed the deal. So the story goes.
http://www.bucsnation.com/2013/1/5/3839098/chip-kelly-buccaneers-personnel-control-coaching-rumors
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So, what if Lurie had fired Reid after 2011 and made the promises necessary to get Kelly to come to Philadelphia before the 2012 season . . . .
Well, here’s what Kelly would have faced:
(1) His best O-lineman, Jason Peters, would have missed the entire 2012 season. Kelly wouldn’t have even seen him at OTAs.
(2) Draft Day: That year, the Eagles come away with Cox, Curry, Kendricks, Boykin, and Foles.
Would Kelly have signed-off on each of them?
[I’m not a believer that the mantra “Roseman had final say” equals “Roseman made picks over my objections.”]
Maybe Kelly wants Chandler Jones instead of Cox? Or someone else.
How ’bout Kendricks? Maybe Kelly pushes to move up for Donta Hightower or Courtney Upshaw or even Alshon Jeffrey.
Vinny Curry? Classic 4-3 DE. Doubt it.
Maybe Kelechi Osemele or Ruben Randle or Dwayne Allen or even LaMichael James, instead?
Boykin? No chance.
And Foles? Would Kelly push to trade up for Russell Wilson?
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Maybe the loss of Peters in 2012 would have accelerated Kelly’s personnel choices.
And maybe whomever Kelly would have wanted in the 2012 draft would be better than Cox, Kendricks, Curry, Boykin and Foles+2nd Rd pick=Bradford.
Only thing we know is we’d probably be entering Kelly Y-4.
Philadelphia Eagles WR Josh Huff has left his agents at Select Sports Group. He is currently without an agent.
ESP saying MSII won’t make 53 man roster. Someone should just take his press credentials.
Maybe someone asked Smith to “make his 53 man roster” and he replied, “I won’t do that.”
Context.
ESP did put MSII on his 53, but said earlier on Twitter that he’s leaning against MSII making the roster. Doesn’t seem so committed either way.
Then he really should keep his mouth shut if he doesn’t have much of an opinion either way. Just click bait
I would bet anything he married into this job.. He definitely married some chick who’s dad is a big dog in the media… It’s the only thing that makes sense… He is fucking Horrendous.
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There is this woman who I noticed has Novacare access for about the past two years, and it’s rare that you hear a woman’s voice asking questions at our press conference, but whenever I heard her voice she almost always asked some of the best questions and she always catches my attention that way but I have no idea who she is or who she works for…. It can’t be hard figuring it out since it’s rare that you hear a woman ask chip a question at Novacare, need to find out who she is, I don’t know what shel looks like so I respect her strictly for her football acumen and being a responsible journalist
Well, he really should be committed.
He also swore the Eagles were taking Landon Collins in the 1st.
Bless him ESP really knows nothing about Scheme, Cap or talent evaluation. He does have a PHD in #hottakes however and that makes him the perfect beatwriter for driving clicks.
I follow him on twitter because there is nothing that i enjoy more than watching him being consistently wrong.
I get home from work, hype to turn on CSN and get some Eagles news, and it’s frigging Barkaan and Elliot fool Parker.. How can I watch that crap? What could they possibly tell us of value about our beloved Eagles?
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It’s a disgrace that this clown has credentials to cover the Eagles. He shouldn’t be covering high school football let alone the Eagles..
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Is it true that he even has a podcast? Who the hell would ever listen? Does he actually have any fans?
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Not only isn’t he qualified to have any business covering the Eagles, but on top of it he is an irresponsible hack who makes shit up…. He definitely married into this job.. He is horrible, yet he is now even on TV which is a fuckin disgrace..
Hahaha.
I totally agree with you on this. Worst thing though -he’s a terrible writer.
You may not like Kempski, but he’s a dang good writer.
And he’s funny. Even if I think he’s wrong about things, I can always get a laugh.
I actually used to love kempski back n the day that’s why I hate him so much now…. I’m like “Daaamn Homie, in high school you were the maaaaan Homie, what the F happened to you?”.. I
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don’t know what happened to him but as he moved up in the world I started to despise what he has become… “now your too big for your britches, you got a few lil bitches, you think you Hugh Hef, but you just ridiculous..”
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kempski from bloggingthebeast days was one of the best.. Now I can’t even stomach following him on Twitter . Thankfully I don’t even know the name of the site he writes for these days…
I wanna know what’s up with huff! He missed a few days of practice but was excused for personal problems
I think I saw something on Twitter earlier (can’t find it now) about a death in the family
Okay kiddies, I’m finally on twitter. Give me your twitter handles.
@InsultComicDog
Nice. And that dude is funny.
Here’s my sports list on Twitter
https://twitter.com/InsultComicDog/lists/sports
@Astonia67
awesome, I just added you
I’m @greenekidavery
I’d consider Chip and Buddy to be the antithesis of each other and comparing them therefore I find utterly impossible. The only comparison I can make is that they both went through 3 offensive assistants in their first 3 years.
Chip is very disciplined in his use of words. Chip is meticulous and gentlemanly in his characterizations of just about everybody. Chip is closely involved with all units of the team. Buddy would likely hate Chip.
I love them both.
That is certainly another comparison that can be made.
Buddy’s the kind of guy who wouldn’t understand what Chip was saying but know that he was getting verbally abused. He’d then try to throw a punch only to fall into the swimming pool.
Giants RT Marshall Newhouse just went down grabbing his left ankle.
I propose we shut down camp and not play any more preseason games either. This is getting crazy.
Was he projected starter?
He was, at least for the time being.
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The Nobodies strike again
Am I supposed to pretend to be upset that Junior Gallette tore his ACL? I won’t celebrate Orlando Scandrick which is a huge loss for the Cowboys that I despise, but junior Gallete is human trash and it’s disgusting that the skins tries to take advantage adding a top player because he was human scum and got cut… They tried to take advantage of the saints cutting their top defender and getting a stud for dirt cheap, and they got what they both deserved.. fuck Junior Gallette and the skins… Scandrick is an important player for my despises rival but they got him fair and square, but when Greg Hardy gets hurt, I won’t have a drop of sympathy just like I don’t have it for scumbag Gallete,. Skins got what they deserved!
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That’s a big loss for a much improved skins front 7… They signed Potroast and thought they could pass on the best player in the draft Leonard Williams and draft for need…so they spent the 5th pick on a guard and let Leonard Williams fall to the Jets…. Now the skins will have to start Trent Murphy opposite of Kerrigan lol.. Do you have any idea what Jason Peters will do to Trent Murphy? Lol it won’t be pretty…
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Lol if the skins drafted Leonard Williams he would instantly be one of the top 3 players on the skins… Keep drafting for Need Donkeys!! Did I mention fuck junior Gallette?
I agree totally. Orlando Scandrick may be a Cowboy but as far as I know is a good human being. Galette is a POS.
Nothing personal about Orlando but he was a huge dick the one time I caught his interview on Sirius NFL Radio
or whenever he uses his g/f’s twitter
Also got suspended for Taking Molly, but he hasn’t hurt anyone, abuses any woman as far as I know and the Cowboys acquired him fairly.. Where as I don’t think it’s fair at all that the Panthers have to cut the top DE in the game because he is a piece of shit, and the scumbag isn’t even out of football for like a week before dirty Cowboys capitalize on it and sign him for a fraction of what the top DE in the game should cost… That dude is human scum and karma will take care of him too…
Basically! Scandricks wasn’t acquired cheap because he was a scumbag and some other team was forced to drop him… It drives me crazy that teams have to cut their best players for being pieces of shit only so some other scum team can pick them up the next day at a fraction of what they should cost… Skins tried to capitalize on signing Gallette the saints best defender cheap, and this is what they get for overlooking human trash because of talent. I’m glad, and I hope that scumbag Greg Hardy gets hurt too, preferably at the hands of Jason Peters…
You DID celebrate Scandrick you f**king lying motherf**ker.
I called you out on it.
But go ahead, pretend like you didn’t.
They need some two-way players: safety and o-line.
“They need some
two-wayplayers . . . “reply fail
Surely ESP’s probowl bound rookie Safety is bossing it for the Giants? What he is not a free safety that the Giants desperately need and he is a pure box/hybrid LB player? Well damn who could have guessed it….
Apparently Mr Robot’s season finale will be postponed tonight because there is a graphic scene similar to today’s events in Virginia
I saw that too. I understand tho.
who gets shot on Mr. Robot? Predictions?
I’ve only gotten thru the 1st episode
maybe the wife and i will binge next weekend
great show, gets a little crazy as the season progresses.
I have to figure Tyrell is the shooter. Don’t know who he shoots. Possibly his former boss at E-Corp.
Spoiler warnings, dude.
http://bit.ly/1JyUQ5L
Mike Tanier talks to a Baltimore station about the Eagles dismantling the Ravens
What’s the short rundown? I’ll forget to look at this tomorrow.
Excuses for why the Ravens looked so bad. For example, the Eagles did not run tempo during the joint practices, they played slow and huddled.
also right off the bat, The Ravens dominated the Eagles during the joint practices? I didn’t get that from our writers, and if anything it was the other way around….and philly writers are pretty negative
Yes, this was the first I read that and I did read other Baltimore writers saying otherwise.
This same guy was on 97.5 the other night with Matt Lombardo i believe, who is maybe the most pro-chip writer in the region and a guy who at least gave me the sense that the Eagles were doing well against Balt. Lombardo brought up the fact that he thought the Eagles were performing well and Tanier just kept going back to how Steve Smith was catching passes against Eric Rowe….i thought it was kinda odd then,but now again….
So what about their offense? #Dumb
I loved it reading the day after about how they gashed us with the run to start and that would have stayed the same through out had they wanted too, but they were working on other things so they stopped.
So who’s even left from their starting defense?
Navorro bowman is back from that horrible leg injury a couple years ago
And i think thats it..
They lost their 2 starting DE, & 3 LBs (Willis, Boreland, & Smith). Now they probably have to cut Brooks. Crazy. I don’t know who their NT is or in secondary besides Reid
I think Bethea is still on their roster.
They lost two corners Cox and culliver to the skins I think
are they on the team right now, like they’ve been playing in the preseason?
Ray McDonald was released earlier this offseason.
Heath Evans was a guest on Misanellis show today smh… Only Heath could make me want to root for Misanellii although he did go hard at Heath for his chip hate nonsense so I do appreciate Mike taking it to him, going after him in his interview and calling him out on his crap… Heath made little sense, basically thinks everything chip believes in on offense is wrong lol
Ahmad Brooks getting in trouble is just out of control, that team is a disgrace, I’m starting to see why Boreland retired after helps rookie year.. A year ecpoaed to all the 49 scumbags and you can’t even blame the kid for rethinking his NFL dream.. That team is a disgrace, when you might have more disgusting criminals then the
Feiggin Cowboys, you are a disgrace and I’m happy their window slammed shut with no ring to show for it
The consensus amongst this eagle community seems to be if we stay healthy our team should be a FORCE and typically the only teams we put ahead of us in the NFC are the packers and Seahawks…. But there is this interesting stat where for like the past 236 NFL seasons we never had the same two teams play in the NFC championship two years in a row…
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history and Odds say that either the Seahawks OR GB will NOT make it to the NFC championship this year…..if that holds true, who has the best odds along with us or making the NFC title game instead of one of those two teams?
1) Eagles or Cowboys winner of the NFC east
2) Cardinals? I’m really not feeling them. Their OL is a mess, their DL is in trouble, lost Dan Williams and Darnell Dockett this offseason and the kid who they got to replace Dockett got hurt last week… Not the greatest run game, I’m just don’t see the cardinals as a threat. Losing Bowles will hurt that defenae
3) The Saints?? Are they better then we think? Cooks is a beast, seems like Ingram looks good,
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If GB OR Seattle doesn’t make it to the conference title game, I like our chances over all these other teams… Saints would prob worry me the most but I still like us to beat them during the regular season ..
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Really love this stat.. If not GB or Seattle who can realistically have better odds then us?
Too many variables in a season for that. This time last year I was saying that everything needed to break right for Dallas to compete. It did, and they did. The best franchises are set up to overcome adversity and still compete. And they almost all have a top qb, who they can’t afford to lose. Eagles have a good shot, if Bradford holds up and they don’t have a bad run on other key players. That’s all we can ask for, at this point. Along the way, should be a pretty fun ride, too.
Had to look it up. Dallas played SF in 71 & 72, and they played each other again from 92-95 in the NFC Championship game. That isn’t a real stat.
Google
Wonderful story, reckoned we could combine several unrelated information, nonetheless really worth taking a look, whoa did one particular master about Mid East has got much more problerms at the same time.