Some RG3 Talk

Posted: September 1st, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 446 Comments »

The hottest topic around Robert Griffin III. How long will Washington keep him? If cut, where will he go? And is he a QB worth having interest in?

I could probably write several thousand words on the RG3 situation. He went through some crazy ups and downs in just his first 2 years in the NFL. It is way to simplistic to make the case that he is very talented and was simply trapped in a bad situation, just as it is way too simplistic to say that 2012 was a complete fluke and he is a lost cause who just doesn’t get it.

Let’s focus on the Philly angle. Should the Eagles have interest in RG3? Absolutely.

Will they? This is much tougher to answer. Kelly loves talented QBs and RG3 remains very talented. But Kelly also is big on character and that’s where things get very complicated. RG3 has no legal issues, but there are legitimate questions about his mindset and whether he is more focused on being a celebrity than a top QB.

I think Kelly would take a chance on RG3 if the price were right.

RG3 has spent his NFL career with the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL. His environment has impacted him. How much is up for debate, but I don’t think there is any question that playing in Washington has made things worse for him.

RG3 was on top of the world in 2012. He led the NFL in yards per pass attempt and yards per carry, also sporting an impressive QB rating of 102.4. That is amazing. But he got hurt late in the year and that’s when things started to get weird. There were questions about just how injured RG3 was and whether coach Mike Shanahan should be playing him. Griffin tore his ACL in the playoff loss.

The relationship between Shanahan, who is incredibly tough to play for, and RG3 became strained. Complicating matters, RG3 was befriended by owner Dan Snyder. That’s three strong egos with three different agendas all working closely together. It became disastrous, as you would imagine.

RG3 didn’t help matters as he rehabbed. He and his handlers turned his rehab into a marketing campaign. That’s the kind of idea that would make Bill Parcells head explode. Instead of focusing on getting healthy and preparing for the season, RG3 was trying to craft a brand name and manage his burgeoning celebrity. Ugh. Times infinity.

The 2013 season didn’t go well for Washington or RG3. Mike Shanahan was the loser in an ugly public battle with Snyder. Jay Gruden took over for 2014 and the hope was that a new coach would make a difference.

But RG3’s relationship with Snyder complicated matters. There was a story that RG3 requested bad plays be taken out of film review sessions. There were stories of him skipping the coaches to go talk directly to Snyder. Teammates didn’t get the same preferential treatment and they didn’t care for the situation.

Gruden tried a mixture of being positive and using tough love to get the best out of RG3. It is hard to say how things worked because RG3 got hurt early in Week 2 and was out until November. Anything Gruden said publicly seemed to get taken out of context and that created plenty of confusion as to exactly what was going on in D.C.

RG3 is hurt, again, and Gruden has named Kirk Cousins as the starter. Will Washington give up on RG3 and just move on or will they stubbornly hold onto him in the hopes that somehow the 2012 magic can be resurrected?

If they do cut him, I think Chip Kelly would have interest. RG3 hasn’t proven to be a good pocket passer, but there is something to work with. Injuries have stripped RG3 of some of his athleticism, but he can still run well and has a very strong arm. It is hard to say how Kelly would judge RG3’s injury history since Chip just traded for Sam Bradford.

Speaking of Bradford, his presence would complicate matters. RG3, if cut, will likely choose carefully. Would he want to come to Philly where there is already a high-priced QB in place? We don’t know Bradford’s future, but he’s young enough to play here for a while if things work out.

Kansas City is the team that makes the most sense to me. Andy Reid coveted RG3 in the 2012 draft. He just had no chance to get him. And Reid has proven to be great at building relationships with QBs. As much as anything, RG3 needs a good relationship with a strong coach. Reid got Mike Vick on track when Vick had major issues. RG3 would be a much easier situation to fix.

Buffalo would be an interesting fit. Rex Ryan isn’t great with QBs, but he would probably help RG3’s confidence and Greg Roman’s offense would be a good fit.

I would love it if the Eagles could pick up RG3 to be the third QB this year. He could then spend the season getting healthy and being in a high quality environment. At the end of the year, the Eagles would hopefully be giving Super Bowl MVP Sam Bradford a monster deal, but if not they would have had several months to find out if RG3 is worth taking a shot on.

Griffin would essentially be sitting out the 2015 season in that scenario and I just don’t know if he’d be willing to do that. I’m not sure he’s got long term vision. He’s made most of his career decisions focused on here and now, which is part of the problem. He needs to think big picture more often.

Some fans will simply respond that this is all a waste of time. “That guy is a bum and he sucks.” I see a player who is talented, but flawed. A good coach can work on flaws. He can’t make someone more talented. That’s why I’d have interest. And I do think getting RG3 out of D.C. will help. That organization has been a mess for more than 20 years. I like their new GM, but I’m not sure Snyder can keep away and let football guys really run the place long term. We’ll see.

As strange as all this RG3 talk is, remember that chances are in a week…Tim Tebow will be the Eagles #3 QB.


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BGN has a post up with more on the situation. Good stuff, as always.

And Les Bowen shares his take.

Les BOWen. Tim TeBOW. Coincidence? I think not.


446 Comments on “Some RG3 Talk”

  1. 1 Weapon Y said at 10:13 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    RG3 would be good insurance if Bradford bolts out of here next year for a big contract with some other team. He would get a year to learn the offense and unlearn all of his bad habits from Washington. I see RG3 kind of like a spoiled kid who needs to get away from his toxic parent, Snyder. Chip and Lurie would provide some normalcy that will either make or break him. He’s got so much talent that I think he’s worth rolling the dice on. This isn’t Tim Tebow. RG3 can be impressively accurate and he has a huge arm.

    I should add that I prefer to keep Bradford here long term and use RG3 as trade bait when the Eagles can maximize his value. Make him a developmental project and let him fill in for Bradford when necessary. If AJ Feeley, an old Donovan McNabb, and Kevin Kolb can get the Eagles a 2nd round pick, RG3 could too.

  2. 2 Ramiroquaaii said at 10:29 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I think Bradford will not stay in Philly only if he get hurt again.
    He realized that he is in a special offense, where he can thrive. Maybe he can’t get here the money that he wants, but still good and is better than go Cleveland, St Louis, Buffalo, Oakland, etc.

    He already made a lot of cash in St Louis, would be perfect if he adopt something like the Brady-mentality, and leave some cap for the rest of the team. but it would be dreaming too much hahaha.
    And I’m sure RG3 would prefer a place where he would be a starter and a big contract, so….Don’t think he will have a chance in Philly.

  3. 3 Weapon Y said at 10:31 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I fear Bradford doing what Maclin did to the Eagles. If Bradford was so sure he wanted to be here for good, he would’ve accepted the Eagles terms for a long-term deal. Instead, he’s betting that he won’t get injured and his market value will go up. He wouldn’t do that if he wouldn’t consider leaving for another team.

    I agree that RG3 likely wouldn’t come here. Houston, Buffalo, or Cleveland are the most likely landing spots. But if those teams’ coaches wouldn’t consider him as a starter, his only option would be to become a backup. In which case, the Eagles are in play.

  4. 4 Greg Richards said at 10:42 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    If Bradford performs well enough that another team is going to offer him a big $ deal, the Eagles will franchise him.

  5. 5 Cafone said at 11:07 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    It’s kind of expensive to franchise QBs

  6. 6 GEAGLE said at 8:50 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    B afford has made a boatload already.., after a year in this offense aka offensive football Heaven with a good OL, his boy Demarco and all these weapons he has around him, where the F is he going? Doubt he will be in a rush to leave this offense… Lol imagine how different it would he for the kid of the Browns won the bidding for his services? Probably thanks god every morning to be in Philly instead of Cleveland..

    If Sam stays healthy, doubt he even talks to another team, hopefully he signs and cares about not crippling us financially so he can continue to have all these weapons that will allow him to contend

  7. 7 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:03 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Who you kidding, GE? If he puts up Peyton Manning $, his agent is going to want Peyton Manning $. It’s going to be a tough place for the Eagles.

  8. 8 Avery Greene said at 10:06 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Money talks.

  9. 9 GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Lol ONLY and eagle fan would call our W

  10. 10 Ramiroquaaii said at 10:43 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Good point about Bradford. But if the offer was made some weeks ago, he didn’t see the offense in action or didn’t know how his knee would react to a preseason game.
    I think he’s been cautious. Let’s see how it goes.

  11. 11 sprawl said at 8:15 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t know how the Eagles could have made him a fair offer several weeks ago when they had never seen him throw a pass under live fire in this offense. It was probably kind of a low-ball number because “we don’t know if you can actually play”.If I’m Sam Bradford there’s no way I accept an offer like that so there’s basically no reason to spend much time trying to work out the specifics of such a contract.

    Even after the Ravens game when he was 3/5 do you think the Eagles were really ready to offer a fair contract? Maybe now that we have 2 weeks until the next real game and have Kendricks squared up they can talk about some kind of 2 year deal with Bradford or get something finished up with Cox

  12. 12 Ramiroquaaii said at 1:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    There was some reports about a multi year contract offer, and I was a little skeptical about it in that time. But I think at least some primary talks occurred.
    As you said, there is other players with contract situations. Maybe Cox is the priority. To keep everybody maybe at least two restructured are necessary.

  13. 13 Eagle Talon said at 11:51 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I like your reasoning in both post. Great points… Definitely something to think about.

  14. 14 laeagle said at 12:05 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No way Houston takes him. For the same reasons Shanny and Gruden don’t like him. And O’Brien isn’t going to let some snot-nosed punk bitch about the play calling.

  15. 15 Mark F said at 6:29 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Just unlearn all of his had habits huh? Just like that? Unrealistic…

  16. 16 Corry said at 10:18 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    i don’t know if RGIII is the right culture fit. Chip wants the “growth” mindset with a good work ethic. RGIII only seems to put work into his next cliche. Though as Tommy mentioned, the situation in Washington is the definition of “dysfunctional”, so would moving to a stronger team, with a good structure and strong veteran leadership change him? His talent is undeniable and I think Chip could maximize his talents, but he has to want to learn and has to want to get better. I’m not sure he has the right people around him to push him to a good situation like what we seem to have here in Philly.

    I don’t think any of this matters though because I don’t think RGIII would want to come here. Maybe if he were 2nd string, but 3rd string? No way. I think he’s going to want to go where he has a chance to get on the field.

    EDIT: in my personal opinion, he’s a better option than either Tebow or Barkley.

  17. 17 Dan in Philly said at 10:29 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    If Chip trusts him, that will be good enough for me. Barkley and Tebow haven’t really worked out, but neither have been a cancer or distraction. Bradford and Sanchez were both daring moves, and both have paid off big time (Sanchez could start for many teams and is a great backup).
    RG3 would be an interesting addition, who knows? I would be willing to bet he’d love the chance to past for chip Kelly.

  18. 18 ICDogg said at 10:29 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I don’t think RG3 would want to walk into a situation where he’s the 3rd string QB, when there are likely to be more attractive opportunities.

  19. 19 mark2741 said at 10:32 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Chip’s been honest since day one but no one wants to listen to him – #1: accuracy #2: read defenses. RGIII has shown neither of those traits. So no, Chip would not have interest unless he came in on a Tebow-like non-guaranteed tryout.

  20. 20 holeplug said at 10:43 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    and yet he brought in Tebow

  21. 21 Insomniac said at 10:44 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Well 2 of the QBs he has picked up weren’t known for either of those..

  22. 22 mark2741 said at 10:52 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Tebow yes. On a non-guaranteed, no commitment deal. Who else you talking about? Barkley? He shredded defenses and made great decisions in college. Problem is he has no arm for the pros.

  23. 23 Stephen Janis said at 11:16 AM on September 3rd, 2015:

    but neither Tebow or Sanchez are very bad teammates.

  24. 24 A_T_G said at 10:44 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I don’t see it, Tommy. Chip talks about the key traits he wants in a QB: repetitive accuracy, ball security, good decision making, quick decisions. Chip wants to know that when his system creates opportunities, his QB will seize them. RGIII exhibits none of those traits. He is Randall Cunningham.

  25. 25 Greg Richards said at 10:45 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Don’t disparage the name of Randall Cunningham by comparing him to RG3.

  26. 26 A_T_G said at 10:49 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    True, how about RGIII aspires to be Cunningham circa 1990?

  27. 27 Greg Tulino said at 10:52 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Randall was amazing. He had all the talent in the world and the worst coaching. He had a terrible O-line and a coach that basically said make 5 big plays a game. I would love to have witnessed RC in this offense with Chip.

  28. 28 FairOaks said at 1:44 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s an interesting comparison in one way… Kotite wanted Cunningham to be a pocket passer and basically forced the issue and ended up with a not nearly as good QB. Gruden seems to be doing the same thing in Washington. Now… Cunningham did learn years later (got some QB coaching); the question is if RG3 can ever do the same. With Cunningham, he really did need to learn because teams discovered he was beatable if you forced him to stay in the pocket (even if giving him all day). With RG3… no idea.

    But I still don’t think RG3 is anywhere near as committed to football and learning to make Kelly have any interest.

  29. 29 Insomniac said at 10:45 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Sanchez and Tebow

  30. 30 A_T_G said at 10:46 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Sanchez has those traits more than most backups around. Tebow was a roll of the dice.

  31. 31 Insomniac said at 10:48 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    He has those traits “sometimes”

  32. 32 wee2424 said at 11:23 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Roll of the dice, exactly what RG3 would be. With better skills as well.

  33. 33 GEAGLE said at 8:21 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Crap out is what RG3 would be

  34. 34 GEAGLE said at 8:21 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Like a welfare version of Randle..

  35. 35 unhinged said at 10:46 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    “RG3 would be a much easier situation to fix.”
    Vick had lost millions and suffered the public humiliation of prison for abusing/killing dogs. He was ripe for redemption. RG3’s head is nowhere close to acknowledging his primary role in his fate.

  36. 36 kevinlied said at 8:19 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Agree completely. I think “situation to fix” is inartful, because nobody fixes anybody else. Vick redeemed himself. After serving a federal prison sentence, losing his money, and irreparably damaging his reputation, he came back humble and ready to make the most of a second chance. The Eagles just provided a stable environment in which Vick could thrive. Plus, as I’ve said before, Vick was embraced by his teammates in a way that RG3 likely would not be, at least initially. Could he win the locker room through hard work, humility, and leadership? Sure. I’m hard pressed to believe he’s ready to do that.

  37. 37 Michael Winter Cho said at 10:06 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yes, I had made the Vick/RGIII situation. But Vick truly had hit rock bottom. More to the point, what you said about the teammates. I don’t remember hearing his teammates ever complaining about him, even when he was screwing around and not studying film, publicly carried two cellphones for his extra girls, etc.

  38. 38 Ben Hert said at 9:01 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Excellent point. Vick had two years to sit on his ass in prison and contemplate that humiliation too.

  39. 39 Greg Tulino said at 10:48 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I am just coming around to the possibility of having a healthy Sam Bradford as a franchise QB for the next 7 years. Obviously if he gets hurt again we will have to start over and find a new franchise QB and I am praying that does not happen. So unless RG3 falls into our laps as #3 QB and project then I have absolutely zero interest. Just my opinion.

  40. 40 1StikDik said at 10:52 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    It won’t happen. Chip will invest in a QB from the draft ASAP. I think Marynowitz has more sway than we realize and they seem to work well together. This last draft was very good, maybe not epic, but probably four starters deep. Management wise the only difference was Ed. Sounds crazy, but I’m already looking forward to the next draft. Given health, Sam may will be the best trade acquisition in a long, long time… for a second rounder! There will probably be two third rounders and two in the fourth. Besides, Rex needs RGIII. Together their shared pro beatdown will be so much more complete. RGIII? Now there is a QB prone to injury.

  41. 41 JoeBlow said at 11:06 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I am with you in already looking forward to next years draft….Free agency and the draft brings me as much joy as the actual season. I’m hoping Bradford stays healthy and he’s back at least next year but I would love for them to draft a guy within the first 3 rounds to groom behind Sam and Sanchez next year

  42. 42 Avery Greene said at 9:07 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Jerry Jones would try to pay him his money, glad they are in cap hell. That might prevent him from going there.

  43. 43 gibsonplyer said at 10:54 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    As bad as Washington is and they’re a significant part of the problem I think RG3’s biggest stumbling block is his own ego. The whole “if they want me to be ordinary” comment just seems like a shot at the coaches and the scheme and that he feels he’s better than both. I was also reading an article earlier about the situation (it may have been Peter King I forget) but it made it sound like both Gruden and Shanny both didn’t feel like he was a good student.

    Would I take him over our two options as the #3 QB? On a pure talent basis yeah. But for Chip the whole him building his brand thing (I want guys who love football not what football brings them), and the questions about his accuracy and decision making may be non-starters. To be fair he did thrive in a spread offense in college so this would be a good fit in those terms but I really don’t know if he’d want to come here knowing he’s #3 in the pecking order. Just from what we’ve seen of his ego I don’t know if he’d go for that.

  44. 44 jpate said at 11:30 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I disagree that Chip would be interested. By all account Chip is only willing to take a risk if the player is dedicated to football and improving. I base that on the QBs he has picked up so far, Bradford got glowing reviews about his work ethic from Shurmur. Sanchez hit rock bottom with the butt fumble, gave up the GQ stuff and committed to program, Tebow is not a NFL qb but his commitment is unquestioned. Even non QB player like Mofitt got endorsement from Glazer. I don’t think RG3 has shown any indication he is able to give up the extracurricular stuff and that’s a deal breaker for Chip, I think.

  45. 45 since1961 said at 11:57 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    He may still have a few on the roster that come up a bit short, but to me it’s clear that this is the single most important attribute in his evaluating people, with position-measureables and sufficient NFL talent level being quite important but not absolute deal-breakers. I suppose there is some balancing of these three going on, but commitment/dedication seems to shine through everything.

  46. 46 laeagle said at 12:03 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    If there’s any truth to the story about him asking to have bad plays removed from game tape, then there is absolutely no way Chip could possibly have any interest. That kind of shit is the perfect example of a fixed mindset, and Chip doesn’t want those kinds of people in the building.

  47. 47 SteveH said at 11:56 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    I think RG3 is mentally toast. His confidence is so shattered I doubt he’ll ever get close to that rookie season again. Watching him play last year was painful sometimes he was so bad, and this year in the preseason I was thinking someone should throw in the towel to stop the beating.

  48. 48 Insomniac said at 1:18 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Couldn’t agree more.

  49. 49 wee2424 said at 1:43 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Agree. I think his best bet is to quietly disappear on a teams depth for a year plus to try and regain his confidence and work on his craft.

    I understand there will be an immediate media shit storm when he does sign somewhere, but problem is that I don’t know if he can keep his face out of the media after the initial storm and stop the immature prima dona act.

  50. 50 Eagle Talon said at 11:57 PM on September 1st, 2015:

    Tommy wrote “RG3 has spent his NFL career with the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL”. I always equated the most dysfunctional as Oakland and Cleveland. But after further review Washington is a very dysfunctional organization on par with the worst of em’.

  51. 51 Andrew_Hemler said at 12:43 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Kelly wants guys who love football, not guys who love what football gets them. I don’t think RG3 is one of those guys. I might be wrong. But if Kelly thinks that way, too, there’s no chance in hell he’s ever going to be an Eagle as long as Chip’s in town.

  52. 52 Ryan Rambo said at 1:01 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

  53. 53 wee2424 said at 1:25 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    RG3 story is crazy. Interested in the possible potential but I really don’t want him here. Just doesn’t seem like a Chip Kelly guy from a mental standpoint.

    Interesting on how coming out of college he was portrayed as a great character guy with a real good work ethic. Amazing how incorrectly the media can portray someone to millions of people. Truth always ends up coming out at one point.

  54. 54 CrackSammich said at 9:10 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s incredibly difficult to remain a high character guy with a great work ethic in such a toxic environment. Anyone who’s worked in a shitty company could tell you the same.

  55. 55 wee2424 said at 10:55 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Very good point. However it seems as though he adds much to the dysfunction rather then just being a product of it.

    I’m not saying he is to fully blame. He definitely is not. As you said that’s a shitty organization starting with the man that owns it. That being said he has definitely done things to make it worse then it needs to be.

  56. 56 CrackSammich said at 12:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    And who hasn’t been a train wreck at some point in their early 20s?

    I don’t mean to keep making excuses for the guy, but it’s a little soon to assume he’s just over and done with 3 years into his career because he couldn’t figure it out in that hell hole.

  57. 57 wee2424 said at 10:31 AM on September 3rd, 2015:

    I never said he was over and done with. I even stated what I think his best chance of success would be which means I don’t think he has to be over and done with.

    The Redskins and other ridiculous organizations take in plenty of young 20 year olds annually and have plenty others on the payroll. You don’t see them acting like this. So clearly RG3 is worse in that regard. Furthermore some of his issues do point to an inability to do his job while the other 20 some year olds around him for the most part do theirs..

    Cousins should really be the one acting upset because he deserved to be named the full time starter awhile ago. Yet he who is the same age or just about the same age as Griffin has acted professionally.

  58. 58 Eagles_Fan_in_San_Fran said at 2:10 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    KC makes the most sense (not that I believe it will work there, though).
    I’d rather take a flyer on Kaepernick, who I think will also be available after this year’s likely dumpster fire in SF.

  59. 59 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:35 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think RG3 is better than Kaep

  60. 60 GEAGLE said at 7:34 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Rg3 is better then no startng QB

  61. 61 Avery Greene said at 9:10 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’d agree with him. Kaep for better or worse puts in the work, I’d have to see that from RG3 to be convinced to take him instead.

  62. 62 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:35 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Well they may both be available next year…..

    I think Kaep is awful. I live in Norcal so I get to see a lot of him.

  63. 63 Avery Greene said at 9:51 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think a better environment and he’s in a better position (Kap). I’m a fan of Kap, but I just think the 49ers have been toxic for a couple years now.

    RG3? Not sure if he needs coaching and/or a better environment.

  64. 64 anon said at 2:37 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    what if i told you there was a mythical character that’s twice as effective as dm in the rz (stats from a bgn commentor)

    Demarco Murray 2014 Red Zone numbers:
    19-goal: 56 Carries 148 Yds 12 TDs
    10-goal: 29 Carries 40 yds 10 TD

    Tebow’s Red Zone numbers:
    19-goal: 21 Carries 100 yards 10 TDs
    10-goal: 11 Carries 29 yards 9 TDs

  65. 65 OregonDucker said at 3:14 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Depending on Tebow’s performance on Thursday, fans need to prepare themselves for the inevitable.

    RG3 is not a culture fit. Nor is he a skill fit. One could argue he is better than Tebow but those folks don’t know Masoli under Chip. Chip has a scheme fit for Tebow, a real ready-made fit. But Tebow better perform on Thursday.

  66. 66 eagleyankfan said at 7:58 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t buy Thursday as judgment day. I never have and never will. Going back in time for CK — Vick didn’t throw an INT but Foles threw 1 and everybody was like “omg, that proves Vick should start”. Nothing was on the line at that time as Vick was already going to start(against MHO). Just like with Tebow today. CK already knows. He knows what he has in Barkley. He knows what he has in Tebow. 1 game where the get a handful of snaps doesn’t matter. After all these OTA’s and training camp etc etc, if CK doesn’t know by now — shame on him.

  67. 67 GEAGLE said at 8:02 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t think that a QB who can’t throw and ISNT confident enough to try and attempt a pass to a wide open target in the ENDZONE is a PERFECT FIT for chip… If TEBOW makes the team I assume it’s more because chip HASNT felt barkley progressed enough 3 years into this offense… If TEBOW makes the roster Its probably more of a case of what Bakley DIDNT do, then what TEBOW did to get a spot on this team
    Wanting TEBOW over Barkley doesn’t make him a scheme fit IMO.. Culture fit? YES… Scheme fit? Doubt it…. “repetitive accuracy” will never be confused with one of Tebow’s strengths…,.
    TEBOW might end up being an eagle for at best 1 season depending how against keeping Barkley another year chip is?…

  68. 68 xmbk said at 6:54 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That they play different positions? Seriously, interesting stat, but Bradford obviously opens up more passing options, and the red zone is a total package. I don’t think 9 for 11 inside the 10 is sustainable, but it seems as though Kelly wants to find out.

  69. 69 A_T_G said at 7:57 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I would be interested to see the same comparison with touches, or at least snaps, instead of carries.

    The comparison isn’t valid because Tebow gets the ball, then decides if he wants it to be a carry or not.

  70. 70 eagleyankfan said at 7:59 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    and what year is Tebow’s numbers taken from?

  71. 71 RobNE said at 9:04 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    probably from Florida, so maybe not the best comparison.

  72. 72 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:38 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t think the RG3 is going to happen, but nothing Chip does will surprise me at this point. I never believed that Chip would be interested in Sanchez or Tebow and we know how that turned out

  73. 73 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:44 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Put RG3 aside. Suppose the Bills cut either Cassel or EJ Manuel. Would we be interested in either as our 3rd QB?

  74. 74 anon said at 7:50 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    cassel and sanchez are the same qb

  75. 75 A_T_G said at 7:55 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That sounds like a yes.

  76. 76 Dragon_Eagle said at 2:01 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ATG put down my thoughts exactly. If he’s the same as Sanchez, he’d be a good 3rd QB.

  77. 77 xmbk said at 6:58 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Sometimes the qb who goes #1 overall really is the best pick. Here’s hoping SB makes for a 2nd example of that.

  78. 78 GEAGLE said at 7:33 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’ll believe chip has any interest in this bum when TEBOW starts worshipping Satan….

  79. 79 eagleyankfan said at 8:01 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s funny because I think Tebow being here is just as ludicrous as RG3.

  80. 80 GEAGLE said at 8:05 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Skill wise, YES…. But at least TEBOW being here DOESNT go against all the charachter chip has prioritized….. RG3 is about as effectve on the field as Tebow, yet charachter wise he is the exact opposite of TEBOW… Our teammates love TEBOW even tho he sucks…. RG3 not only sucks, but he failed in his leadersh responsibility more then every single QB in the league with the exception of maybe GENO smith… RG3, like GENO Smith, the few rare QBs who you can’t find a teammate that has stuck up for them

  81. 81 Anders said at 8:28 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Do you think RG3 would be hated if it wasnt for Snyder? Here the owner does not favorite’s him over other players.

    Also Tebow is the opposite of everything Kelly have said he wants in a QB, yet here he is

  82. 82 eagleyankfan said at 10:02 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think RG3’s actions account for people not liking him…

  83. 83 GEAGLE said at 1:34 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Not having a single teammate stand up and defend you really says it all..
    You NEVER see anything like Jason Peters going to fight to protect FOles…

  84. 84 bill said at 1:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    …except for #culture.

  85. 85 GEAGLE said at 1:31 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Considering he can’t stopped publically Trashing his blocker to the media…YES!! the worst thing a QB can do is not appreciate his OL, men who are charged with protecting him in games, a QB should always remember to give credit to his blockers, and especially NOT throw them under the bus… If the skins have success, RG3 would be a god, so it’s up to the QB to stand up and take the heat when playing bad, instead this imbecile can’t understand how horrible it is to throw your line under the bus on multiple occassions… If you got hit a million times, everyone will have seen it, no need to point out your bad OL play…..IF A QB is going to get the credit when a team does well, he has to stand at the podium and take the Heat for losses, something this idiot just can’t grasp.
    I don’t believe you can be a QB unless you are one of the leaders on your team…. RG3 lack of QB charchter and QB leadership is almost as big of a deal as his Horrible play…
    if you need me to poïnt this out, I doubt you will “get it”
    As far as I’m concerned TEBOW is nothing more then a fuckin camp arm until further notice,,, and while skill wise TEBOW ISNT what we think chip wants in a QB, you can’t point to a single example of chip kelly keeping any player QB to Kicker who’s football Character and Football intelligence is so lacking… TEBOW lacks QB skill like RG3, but Tebow doesn’t have any of the charchter issues Rg3 does, ridiculuos that you need me to point this out……. Show me one player on the Eagkes whos selfish, and throws his teammates constantly under the bus? Not to mention seems like Rg3 work ethic is trash since he been in the league for 4 years and still hasn’t improved in reading defenses, doubt RG3 works as hard as Eagkes do in the offseason.. doubt RG3 had half the summer kids like ERTZ had

    Skills might be negotiable,but there is NO Precedent you can point to since Chip has become GM that shows chip is ok to overlook Charecter, Intelligence and Work ethic, so it’s a little apples and oranges wasted of fuckin time to compare the Man TEBOW is, with the BOY Rg3 is…… Lol Charechter? Dude chased a Super Bowl winning veteran HEADCoach out of town getting Shanahan fired, and you have the audacity to compare TEBOW to RG3? Lol that’s rich…

  86. 86 eagleyankfan said at 10:04 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Agreed. Both are a circus. An entertainment act.

  87. 87 eagleyankfan said at 8:03 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    “Would he want to come to Philly where there is already a high-priced QB in place? We don’t know Bradford’s future, but he’s young enough to play here for a while if things work out.” — That’s a whole other can o worms. He’s only high priced for 1 year. Young enough, if effective, to leave here for more money. As of right now, there is no future QB for the Eagles….

  88. 88 Fufina said at 8:22 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I doubt they cut him at this point. He is fully guaranteed for 2015 with full salary, the owner still likes him and while he will ride the pine initially and when the rest of the washington’s QB’s stink up the joint they will probably give him one final crack at the end of the season.

    So when thinking about RGKnee and where he will go for career rehab a lot will depend on the situation with teams around the league (including the Eagles depending on Bradford). At the moment if I was advising RG3 form a long term career perspective i would suggest the Chiefs.

    Alex Smith is not a problem but not a solution either, RG3 can be brought in to ‘compete’ with him in relative safety. It is a low media market that he needs at the moment, with a QB friendly fartherly coach who will try and look after him. In a low pressure situation with a good coach and system he could work to develop his game and not have a significant hurdle to overcome to become the starting QB.

    If he is an idiot who wants to start week 1 and wants the big stage he is destined for the Jets… and we can guess how that will work out.

  89. 89 GEAGLE said at 8:23 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    GENO vs RG3 QB battle would be so much fun….of course Trainwrecks fascinate me.. Two QBs who teammates have no respect for battling it out…must see TV

  90. 90 Avery Greene said at 9:19 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Chiefs are a good situation, but in retrospect I’m not impressed with Andy Reid’s offenses. RG3 might look good, but he won’t win anything.

    An interesting place might be Denver. Manning has what, 2 years left at the most? He could learn under one of the best QBs who really understands reading defenses and getting the ball out quickly.

    Houston could be interesting too, and I think O’Brien is a good coach.

    The Bears absolutely need a QB, but like Dallas have cap issues thanks to an immobile QB with a lengthy contract.

    San Fran also might be an option if they decide to move on from Kap, because now you replace one with another and maybe a change a scenery makes a difference for both.

  91. 91 GEAGLE said at 8:13 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I would 1000% go with Kirk Cousin before I go with a QB that the rest of the team doesn’t respect…. As a former LT, stuff like this’s reminds me of my early high school years, we had a Two QB competition for the starting job, the one kid was the coaches favorite but none of the players liked him, and the other QB all the players respected,.. When it was time for the one QB to take Reps our star monster Linebacker Mike O’leary (one of Phillys finest) would wink at Me in practice, which meant, let him thru untouched.. When I saw the signal, I would pretend to whiff on the block and the Linebacker would Tee off on the QB and blast him all day long (back when you are young enough to be able to hit a QB in practice).. This QB used to take such a beating in practice compared to the other QB we respected, it was pretty clear to the coaches who they needed to play..
    Cousins is trash too… But at least his teammates will play for him, and no doubt Cousins reads defenses way Better then Rg3 has

  92. 92 Spooonius said at 2:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Wow. That doesn’t sound like something to be proud of.

  93. 93 GEAGLE said at 8:17 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s absurd that The NFL charges full price for the 4th preseason game… Like they can’t give kids free admission of something for the 4th game since about 90% of the kids who play the last game won’t even be in the NFL? It’s bad enough they charge full price for the other 3 preseason games, but it’s a disgrace to charge full price to watch 3rd string fringe players

  94. 94 RobNE said at 9:00 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’ve seen friends lots and lots of times sell their football or baseball tix (like Red Sox when Yankees come into town) for absurd mark ups. I just don’t feel bad that those same fans pay regular price for some below value games too. It is a disgrace, it’s just part of the whole problem with tickets.

    The fact that ACE can mark up my tickets by 800% but I can’t legally scalp them is another disgrace that makes no sense at all.

  95. 95 Avery Greene said at 9:21 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I can’t agree with you enough here.

  96. 96 eagleyankfan said at 11:14 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yankee fans(I’m sure others too) either sell regular season games to pay for the playoff seats — or — sell the playoff seats to pay for the next season..
    I think it’s absurd when fans try and sell pre-season game tickets at regular price.

  97. 97 RobNE said at 12:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    right that happens too. My wife texted me a week or two ago saying our sitter has 2 tickets for the Pats preseason game they are [maybe $140?] do you want them? I was panicking trying to respond “no” quick enough before she tried to do me a favor by buying them. Of course I said, first you know I hate the Pats. But second, no one plays in the preseason.

  98. 98 GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’m fine wih the first 3 preseason games, typically I give away the 4th game Tix…. But at least have some type of game 4 deal like Kids get in free or something…. ..

  99. 99 Jernst said at 1:31 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Sites like stubhub certainly provide a nice service by guaranteeing their resold tickets so you don’t get screwed with fakes. But, still…what a scam they are! I knew that they charged a convenience/service fee when you buy tickets off their site. So when the Eagles ticket you’re purchasing that says $400, you find out at check out that the real charge is almost $500 when they tack on their fee. But, what I hadn’t realized, because I never had sold tickets on stubhub before, only purchased is that they also charge the seller basically the same fee when he sells the ticket. So that $400 ticket costs you $500 and the original seller only gets $300. You end up with a 67% mark up on what the seller was willing to sell the ticket for, and if you try to buy that ticket without using stubhub or similar exchanges they can charge you with scalping, the team can take away your season tickets, ect. But, as long as a big corporate entity like stubhub gets a cut of the transaction, everyone’s ok with scalping. It just proves the hypocrisy of the rules that are created just to fleece us out of money.

  100. 100 ICDogg said at 9:00 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s also absurd that they have a major cut right before the game which is entirely played by reserves.

  101. 101 RogerPodacter said at 11:43 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yea, that seems like something the league should really straighten out. just about every team uses that last game as a final test for the bottom half of the roster. why force teams to cut 15 of those guys before this last game?
    the only good thing i can think of from is that it allows other teams to pick up some of these castoffs before the 4th PS game so the new team gets one ‘free’ chance to see how these guys might do. but thats a bit of a stretch…

  102. 102 Jernst said at 1:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think you actually have it right. By this time, teams know for sure that those bottom 15 players aren’t going to make their squad. They’re most likely not in contention anymore as they are routinely the easiest cuts to make. So why force teams to pay them for another week and waste valuable time and resources on them. Also the players benefit because if they’re surely not going to make the current squad they’re on, that doesn’t mean that they might not be able to catch on with another team. So why not give them the best opportunity to perhaps get picked up by someone else and have a chance to show that new team that they deserve a spot in the last game?

  103. 103 GEAGLE said at 1:15 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah I’m still trying to figure out WTF is on their mind when making that rule

  104. 104 RobNE said at 8:32 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t even understand the proposal, what is the best case scenario? RGIII comes in as QB3 but then is so great becomes QB1 in one year? how is that remotely possible.

    Or that RGIII rehabilitates himself but how does that happen without playing time, and even if somehow he does do that, he won’t resign with us next year. Or do you think we are getting a cheap multi year deal from him why would he ever do that.

    It’s one thing when we take Sanchez on, b/c just maybe he is better than what we had. Same with Vick. But I just can’t imagine that’s the case with RGIII.

    Then add the total sh#tstorm media coverage it would bring, which to me is a huge negative while I don’t really see any positive outcome at all.

  105. 105 Jarrod said at 8:53 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Best Case Scenario? After going 14-0 we have the division and first round bye locked up. Sammy B. has thrown for 4500 yds, 37 tds and 8 int, and has been locked up on a multi-year contract. Sanchez starts week 16 0-2 with 2 int. Chip Kelly cuts him on the spot. RG3 comes in and plays lights out to take us to 16-0. In the off-season Washington gives us 2 first round draft picks to get him back.

  106. 106 RobNE said at 8:55 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    so he signed a multi year deal with us to be QB3? doubtful.

  107. 107 RC5000 said at 12:23 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Don’t you think he will be 3rd QB where ever he goes most likely. He won’t know anyone’s system.

  108. 108 RobNE said at 1:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think he will be higher on the depth chart than here.

    I just don’t want the media circus for a one year rental. I don’t get the benefit to the team.

  109. 109 A_T_G said at 4:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He did, but it is for $1 this year and $25 million per year for the next four. Shh, don’t tell Washington.

  110. 110 EagleNebula said at 10:44 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Don’t forget the game where Bradford throws for 10TDs and is pulled at the half before Sanchez messes up the 3rd quarter only to have RGIII come in and score 2 single handedly in the final 5 minutes…

  111. 111 kevinlied said at 11:29 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Best case scenario is for the first 8-10 games, Bradford guides the team to record among the best in football, then he goes down with a few-game injury. Griffin, by that time, has learned the playbook and provides insurance if Sanchez gets injured or plays poorly in relief of Bradford. Whatever you think of RG3, he’d be the best QB3 in the league, right? But even in the best case scenario, he doesn’t add a lot of value.

  112. 112 Jernst said at 1:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He’s a guy that can’t beat out Kirk Cousins or Colt McCoy, two years in a row. He’d be the most talented 3rd string QB for sure. No doubt about that. But, best? He’s barely played at a 3rd string QB level since his rookie year.

  113. 113 kevinlied said at 2:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Here are RG3’s most basic stats from the past two years:

    2013 — 60.1% comp, 3230 yds, 16 TD, 12 Int, 82.2 rtg
    2014 — 68.7% comp, 1694 yds, 4 TD, 6 Int, 86.9 rtg

    If Matt Barkley stepped in and provided that level of production, I’d be doing backflips. I’m not saying someone should bring him into start, or even that I want him as QB3. But, yeah, I think he’d be the best QB3 in the league.

  114. 114 Jernst said at 2:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I concede, those stats are better than I thought they’d be.

  115. 115 RC5000 said at 11:57 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Griffin has more talent than Sanchez.

  116. 116 botto said at 12:04 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I trust sanchez in a game more

  117. 117 RC5000 said at 12:16 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Right now barely. In long run, you’d find out who was better.

  118. 118 GEAGLE said at 8:45 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    My money is on Jerry Jones being the only GM dumb enough to bring Texas boy Rg3 to the Cowboys..

    I’m hoping Dallas signs RG3 and Trent Richardson lol

  119. 119 Avery Greene said at 9:23 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    With Romo’s contract, and now Dez’s I don’t see how they make it work.

  120. 120 GEAGLE said at 1:14 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    After his skins comtract is terminated… Doubt anyone would touch him at that current contract

  121. 121 eagleyankfan said at 10:35 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think Rex Ryan (second most over rated coach in the history of the nfl) would quickly grab him up before Jones had a chance…

  122. 122 A_T_G said at 4:19 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No felony convictions? He isn’t even on their radar.

  123. 123 RobNE said at 8:52 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I would rather keep Tebow than add RGIII. We’ve already absorbed a lot of the Tebow media mania. We have a good to very good team, why let the whole media show be RGIII what a freakin distraction.

  124. 124 cliff-Y U on a knee, 99?! said at 9:07 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    RG3 had 2 yrs, as primary qb to learn playbook and get insync w/ wrs, and sucked. how in the world is he going to be when he’s 2nd or 3rd qb, not getting primary snaps and trying to learn playbook and reads during season.
    whoever signs him is wasting a roster space this season.

  125. 125 GEAGLE said at 8:52 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s September 1st and JPP still hasn’t shown his hand to the Giants lol… The season is here, WTF is he waiting for, his fingers to regenerate?
    What a mess the Giants are on both sides of the line.., you don’t win much being weak in the trenches, also a giant candy Bar of a secondary

  126. 126 RobNE said at 8:56 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    exactly so I really hope they resign Eli to a monster deal. Don’t start the rebuild yet!

  127. 127 cliff-Y U on a knee, 99?! said at 9:05 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    they just need to come up big week 1. not looking good though, Cruz’ calf is issue, and they’d kill for ’13 eagles starting safeties, as crazy at that seems.

  128. 128 eagleyankfan said at 10:43 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    week 1 is a touch call on who I want to win. Anyway for both to lose?

  129. 129 GEAGLE said at 8:54 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Rather sign Logan Thomas after Arians cuts him, or take a flier in Cody Fejardo who Raiders cut yesterday.,.’there is NOTHING appealing about signing Rgknee

  130. 130 EaglesFANqq said at 10:27 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Did you watch Thomas in college? I did. He sucks. .

  131. 131 GEAGLE said at 1:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Did you watch RG3 in the NFL? He sucks!!

  132. 132 EaglesFANqq said at 11:54 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah he was good.

  133. 133 RobNE said at 8:57 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    If Barner won’t play, is he making the team? I mean he isn’t really scheduled to return punts. He won’t get any RB playing time.

    I see the talent, I’m just wondering how you allocate those last couple of spots.

  134. 134 ICDogg said at 9:18 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Tough call with him and Mostert. You can stash a couple of guys when mostly everyone’s healthy, but eventually someone gets hurt and you have to make room for guys playing positions you need.

  135. 135 MattE said at 9:17 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    RG3 stands for Right Guard 3. the problem was the nickname the whole time.

  136. 136 EaglesFANqq said at 10:27 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That is so not funny. Your life sucks.

  137. 137 MattE said at 11:28 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    we are interested in RG3 for guard depth, duh.

  138. 138 RogerPodacter said at 11:09 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    this is so funny. your life is awesome.

  139. 139 Bert's Bells said at 9:50 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Griffin and Tebow externally aren’t all that different. Just swap in Tebow’s public displays of his superstitions. Griffin is clearly a better passer. But both guys never saw a camera they didn’t love or an endorsement they’d turn down.

    Obviously, if Griffin doesn’t work on being a better player that’s a big distinction.

  140. 140 anon said at 11:06 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    tebow never injured

  141. 141 botto said at 12:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    tebow is tougher

  142. 142 Avery Greene said at 10:01 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    LOL @the Onion

  143. 143 MattE said at 10:10 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    One thing about the Griffin ordeal… remember way back when the Mariota trade up talks were very popular? With how everything has gone organizationally i honestly don’t think it would have ruined the Eagles mainly because we are seeing the worst case scenario of that situation play out in Washington and between Lurie/Chip/Roseman/Whoever would have never let this situation reach this level in Philly even if we had traded up for RG3 that year let alone a more mentally stable Mariota.Because has St Louis really put themselves over the top with the RG3 picks? Are rookie contracts still bad enough where it actually ruins your franchise for a decade? Apparently not with the new structures because washington had a 1st rd pick this year and next year, so the RG3 in actuality put them back 3 years? And by the end of those 3 years either RG3 panned out or he didn’t…. yes it was a major setback by losing those (3) 1st rounders, but was a calculated risk that I would have taken too.

  144. 144 RobNE said at 10:11 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Also Mariota looks very good.

  145. 145 MattE said at 10:11 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    with the new rookie contract structures i don’t think it ruins your future. just the next 3-4 years if it goes wrong.

  146. 146 RobNE said at 10:12 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yes ok I see that point.

  147. 147 MattE said at 10:15 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Washington just f*cked up scouting lol

  148. 148 ACViking said at 12:37 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Agree 100%.

    Great post.

  149. 149 mksp said at 10:10 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    In today’s post of my ongoing series titled “GEAGLE Posts, Out of Context, Exhibiting Classic Closeted Tendencies Expressed Vulgarly”:

    GEAGLE mksp • 20 hours ago
    Ahhh good morning sweetie my favorite blowjob!, lick it clean, you were a little sloppy the other day. No teeth bitch boy

  150. 150 myartz04 said at 11:41 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Just wanted to say that I look forward to your guys’ spats…not to mention he fully admitted that in high school he let his linebackers purposely get past him in order to crush a qb he didn’t like. #character

  151. 151 mksp said at 10:13 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Tim Tebow as the 3rd QB is the ultimate Chip troll move. Love it.

    I’m over the fact that Timmy isn’t even a good QB and the waste of a roster spot.

    If Tim is Chip’s Reno Mahe, then let’s just move on and get on with the season.

  152. 152 eagleyankfan said at 10:15 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Meh — I’m all for no Timmy and use that roster spot for depth. To quote — “either way, I don’t give a damn”

  153. 153 Avery Greene said at 10:16 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah, I’d rather keep Mostert. Barner can take punts, Mostert and take KOs. Plus, Mostert’s speed could be useful on coverage units.

  154. 154 mksp said at 10:34 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah, I mean, so would I.

    But every coach has these guys, and if ours is Tebow, then whatever, we’ll live.

  155. 155 EaglesFANqq said at 10:26 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    “If tebow didn’t support anti abortion I would like him ” -all tebow haters

  156. 156 peteike said at 10:39 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    because Focus on the Family is such an upstanding organization

  157. 157 EaglesFANqq said at 1:02 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  158. 158 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:51 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah I’m sure that’s the reason why no one wants him as a QB. Thanks for clearing that up

  159. 159 Tumtum said at 12:18 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    “If Tim was good at play quarterback I would like him”- me

  160. 160 A_T_G said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Your comment seems contradictory.

    The quotes denote spoken words Tebow detractors say, and the context implies that they don’t mean it.

    The terminology and tone, though, implies that Tebow detractors say other stuff, but this is their true motive.

    Regardless, “I don’t want him as a QB because he doesn’t throw the ball well.” seems to be the message I read here, with the actual motive of wanting a QB that can throw the ball well.

  161. 161 EaglesFANqq said at 11:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No ppl are polarized by his abortion views. Fact.

  162. 162 A_T_G said at 12:19 AM on September 3rd, 2015:

    No people are polarized by his abortion view? I don’t think that is true fact at all. I think some people are polarized. Some people dislike him because of his views and some like him more than he deserves based on his play.

    But, again, your comment seems to contradict yourself. Why would you make the first comment if you believed no people are polarized. That doesn’t make any sense.

    Unless…unless you meant to say, “No, people are polarized…” But, nah, that would mean you didn’t put much thought into your comment before hitting Post. That would be hard to believe.

  163. 163 Tumtum said at 12:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Reno Mahe at one point had the highest return average of any punt returner in the NFL… seeing Greg Lewis try and take his place made me scratch my head even more when thinking about the venom from the fans.

    So yeah, if he can be Chip’s Reno Mahe and impact this team in a positive way, heck yeah I want him. I don’t think he can though!

  164. 164 eagleyankfan said at 10:44 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    so how hurt is Kiko? any reason for concern?

  165. 165 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:47 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Kiko and Chip don’t seemed concern. I’m sure if he was “injured” they wouldn’t be playing him in the 4th game of the preseason.

  166. 166 BlindChow said at 11:02 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’ll believe he’s playing when I see it.

  167. 167 RogerPodacter said at 11:07 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Kiko was supposed to play in PS game 3, but did not play. i will be concerned if he does not play in PS game 4 because that will be two weeks in a row he was supposed to play but did not play.

  168. 168 Avery Greene said at 11:09 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Huff is supposed to play too. I think both guys will get a couple series. They just want to make sure they shake off some rust.

  169. 169 Tumtum said at 12:15 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I haven’t heard anything from the Eagles that he will play. I read it is rumored he will this 4th game. Have they officially said he will?

  170. 170 GEAGLE said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I only heard Kiko say it so far

  171. 171 MattE said at 1:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    kiko is not exactly a doctor… in fact if he majored in anything but communications in college i’d be shocked lol.

  172. 172 GEAGLE said at 1:41 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Think he is more qualified then chip is to talk about his body…

  173. 173 GEAGLE said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’ll be concerned when he can’t practice…

  174. 174 GEAGLE said at 1:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Relax, we are far away from a “Cuban Missile crisis”

  175. 175 MattE said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    first i heard of tendinitis probability after ACL surgery…. the more you know!

  176. 176 Nailed it! said at 11:24 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Just going to leave this here…

  177. 177 Bert's Bells said at 11:50 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Can’t stand when football players are called “warriors”.

    They’re athletes. It’s not war.

  178. 178 peteike said at 12:04 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    guess you dislike the NBA champs then eh. All in context its fine imo. You can have plenty of respect for soldiers and military and also understand the use of these terms elsewhere.

  179. 179 Bert's Bells said at 12:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Eh, it’s no “Redskins.” And not the same at all.

    It’s not even about “respect”, it’s just thoughtless.

  180. 180 peteike said at 12:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Im more offended by the references to fictional boxers that are constantly made with our sports teams. Im in the minority there though and I keep coming off old and crabby in this thread. I think Ill just stop here

  181. 181 ACViking said at 12:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    “coming off old and crabby” . . .

    That’s what people who don’t want to think hard about things say to the guy who’s challenging shallow views.

    Don’t stop.

  182. 182 peteike said at 1:07 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    well its about sports so its entertainment, should be light for the most part. If this was politics Id tow the line

  183. 183 Bert's Bells said at 12:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Rocky is real, bro! He’s in our hearts!

  184. 184 ACViking said at 12:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    So is Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, and Frankenstein.

  185. 185 Bert's Bells said at 12:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Can any play DB or OG?

  186. 186 ACViking said at 12:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    well played

  187. 187 MattE said at 1:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Santa played OL in college…. he can play in the cold too, unlike La’el Collins (what a bitch ass).

  188. 188 MattE said at 1:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    …… is an actual presidential candidate… me lol.

  189. 189 anon said at 12:45 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    You have to be a warrior to survive in oakland.

  190. 190 Jernst said at 1:01 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Tell that to George Carlin…

  191. 191 Bert's Bells said at 1:07 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That’s practically “white guys drive like this but black guys drive like this” stuff.

  192. 192 Jernst said at 2:48 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    is it?

  193. 193 Spooonius said at 3:52 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That kind of comedy is overdone for sure, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t be funny when done well. Either way, posts like this are a big reason why I love this site.

  194. 194 Crus57 said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    You can tell it’s not war because even the lowest level people involved get paid a decent wage.

  195. 195 Ark87 said at 2:01 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s semantics but I don’t really have a problem with calling an athlete a warrior. Since a warrior’s place in society has been in blood sport for centuries. Modern nations conduct war with soldiers, rather than warriors. Soldiers being about discipline, camaraderie, and being a piece of a bigger a whole far deadlier than the sum of its parts, and service. Warriors are about individual prowess. Striving to be at the peak of their craft, chasing perfection and history. Individual perfection.

    There is plenty of over-lap in the venn diagram but by and large, the dudes that would be, a thousand years ago, carving a path of blood and gore through a battlefield, being celebrated by the armies that rally around them; now chase glory on fields not made for battle.

  196. 196 Michael Winter Cho said at 4:33 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    In the old days, the biggest, baddest mofos were the warriors. Now, the biggest, baddest mofos play football.

  197. 197 Tumtum said at 12:14 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Really nice job. Very well done.

  198. 198 peteike said at 12:18 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Fans are seriously making videos like this of preseason games, ugh. Too soon

  199. 199 Nailed it! said at 12:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Lighten up they are having fun.

  200. 200 peteike said at 12:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ya right, now get off my lawn haha

  201. 201 D3FB said at 2:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Les Bowen? Is that you?

  202. 202 Bob Scatchard said at 11:26 AM on September 2nd, 2015:

    interesting stat from the 2015 “Eagles Almanac”… yards gained on 1st down bu rushing in 2014 Murry – (+1200) Shady – (-700) WOW!! TEMPO-MATIC!!

  203. 203 xmbk said at 12:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  204. 204 RobNE said at 12:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yeah that seems a bit odd.

  205. 205 Jernst said at 12:59 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I knew Shady had a tendency to lose yards from time to time by trying to reverse field, but that would certainly be a bit more than I seem to remember ; )

  206. 206 anon said at 1:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ~700 (or about 700)

  207. 207 xmbk said at 1:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Shows that Murray ran a lot with defenses knowing what was coming, especially after the first few games.

    I think Kelly going against the trend on running back spending might really pay off this year. Next year’s FA RB’s might owe him a percentage. 😉

  208. 208 eagleyankfan said at 2:57 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    lol, 796 is about 800 (assuming the numbers above are accurate)

  209. 209 GEAGLE said at 1:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Holy shit can that possibly be right? If so then Holy Upgrade Demarco…

  210. 210 RobNE said at 1:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    it can’t can it? Did Shady run backwards half the time?

  211. 211 A_T_G said at 1:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He ran backwards much more than half the time if he ended with a net of -700 yards. Sounds like there is an error to me too.

  212. 212 GEAGLE said at 2:02 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No way… But even gaining 700 yards compared to 1200 on 1st Down is a Monster difference, especially for a tempo offense that can get our team in trouble if we don’t gain a couple first downs… Too often last year we were in 2nd and Long…. Get us to 2nd and 6 consistently and this offense should soar…. Give a accurate QB like Bradford 3rd and 3, and he will hit Sproles all day on short routes to convert 1st downs..
    going to be interesting to see which of our weapons ends up being our most dependable 3rd down weapon, a lot of qualified candidates in Sproles, Pope, ERTZY..

  213. 213 anon said at 1:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    it’s 700 vs 1200 1st down yards. It’s also unclear what the ypc was there — clearly there are line differences, we passed the ball a lot too, but it’s still a pretty staggering difference.

    Chipwagon’s RB article is up on BGN

  214. 214 Nailed it! said at 1:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    To let’s share them. Last years first down statistics:

    Name – Attempts – Yards – Average – Touchdowns
    Murray – 261 – 1289 – 4.9 – 7
    McCoy – 175 – 796 – 4.5 – 3

  215. 215 MattE said at 1:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    the slash line was read as a negative i am assuming….but you know what happens when we assume lol…..but the sheer amount of attempts is crazy… more than half of DeMarco’s carries were on 1st down last year apparently.

  216. 216 MattE said at 1:34 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    …apparently we threw a lot on first down last year.

  217. 217 GEAGLE said at 1:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    When chip Kelly asks sanchez to throw the ball 50 times in a game, it’s safe to say we didn’t have the OL blocking to be able to run…

  218. 218 eagleyankfan said at 2:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    so — prorate McCoy of 4.5 avg over the same number of attempts as Murray and it’s 1174 … basically, given everything equal — over the 16 games, Murray gained 115 more yards on 1st downs … or 7 more yards per game…

  219. 219 GEAGLE said at 1:40 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Even 700 compared to 1200 is a Staggering difference, especially for a high tempo offense that needs to keep the chains moving in order for it to be effective…. 1200 instead of 700 is probably a significant difference in amount of 2nd and 5 compared to 2nd and 8 which is a big difference

  220. 220 Bob Scatchard said at 2:57 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Hay GEAG…it’s a 1900 yard difference on ist forgot the (-)

    In 2014, Demarco Murray had 1200+ rushing yards on 1st down alone. By contrast, McCoy amassed ~700 on 1st down. That is a massive discrepancy and when you think about it, that statistic had to catch Chip’s eye. Think about the tempo that Chip wants to run. The Eagles want to go fast. They want to quickly convert 1st downs and they want to score quickly. They want to avoid 3 and outs. Fundamental to this type of offense are manageable 2nd and 3rd downs, which enable you to move the chains and keep the drive going.

  221. 221 James said at 3:43 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Umm no. There is no way Shady ran for -700 yards thats impossible. its more like a 400 yard difference since it was 796.

  222. 222 GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No chance

  223. 223 MattE said at 1:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    so shady would have been around 2,000 yards?

  224. 224 MattE said at 2:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    are these Trent Richardson’s numbers?

  225. 225 Tumtum said at 12:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    **Random off-topic question**
    So Jimmy referenced Tommy’s DGR on Baltimore. I dont see it or any others here. Are they going up somewhere else now?

  226. 226 xmbk said at 12:33 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It just got pushed off the links due to all the articles published in his post-Packer euphoria.

  227. 227 Tumtum said at 1:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  228. 228 RobNE said at 1:23 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    you really need to visit IB every single day. Win the Day.

  229. 229 Tumtum said at 10:30 PM on September 3rd, 2015:

    Lol I do multiple times!

  230. 230 Buge Halls said at 12:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Just remember how well our last running QB who never prepared for games or studied tape performed under pressure. He wilted and got hurt, just like RGKnee! The last thing this team will need after getting a taste of a real QB like Bradford will be Mike Vick the next Generation!

  231. 231 RC5000 said at 12:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think Kelly might look at a young Vick at no cost (trade, draft) with an unsettled QB situation in addition to Sam. Did he prove he was durable to you? You ready to go all-in on Sam? Two iffy QBs might be desirable for Chip. Rams fans thought Bradford was afraid to throw down field well look how excited you are with talent and coaching around Sam.

    What did Chip say about Bradford trade? Along the lines the ideal QBs don’t come available. Bradford was literally the ONLY opportunity this past offseason.

    And another thing to think about was six months ago fans were scared of Sam’s durability and he was “soft”.

  232. 232 botto said at 12:40 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    this is an interesting read on Bradford and sample size:

  233. 233 RobNE said at 1:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    first, wow I had never heard of that throwing snowballs at Santa incident (kidding).

    second, the validity argument is exactly the point. The defensive players may not be the starters, the defense hasn’t game planned and no blitzes are called or less exotic ones. There are lots of reasons why the sample size may not be valid. I hope Bradford is as good as he looked, but I’m not sure the point of the article.

    the article just said it’s not small sample size, it’s whether the sample size validly reflects the real thing. Without answering anything.

  234. 234 xmbk said at 1:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Author is just hiding subjectivity behind stat jargon.

    Bottom line, Bradford looked good. Predictions and proof and all the rest of that nonsense are meaningless. What matters is that he showed exciting upside. Doesn’t matter what the other team was doing, his throws were better than any we saw from Sanchez or Foles. His reads and release were better than Vick.

  235. 235 MattE said at 1:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    very much so passed the eye test.

  236. 236 RobNE said at 1:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I agree but when you ask is this representative of a real game, I mean it just isn’t. Is it 80% or 90%? maybe. But to ask the question and not offer a response seems odd.

  237. 237 xmbk said at 1:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I got the impression he just wanted to impress with his knowledge of what validity meant in the stat field.

  238. 238 RC5000 said at 1:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That’s not necessarily completely true . If you get pressure on Sam and beat him up, he could be different QB based on larger sample size of his past. Some other defenses looked like shit last week.

    QBs can look incredible when they aren’t facing anyone
    He won’t have 100% completion rate either so you could have a new perception.

    People used similar rationale when Vick had that great stretch. Same with Foles magical year.

    At same time I always thought he was more talented than QBs you mention. So yes eye test was really good.

  239. 239 xmbk said at 1:57 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    But recent QB’s haven’t looked as good as him when given time to throw. So in that regard, he looks like an improvement and the circumstances don’t really matter.

    Now whether he will be an improvement in the clutch or when pressured is a different story. But Oklahoma wasn’t exactly a low pressure environment for a QB. I think it’s going to be a case of getting into a situation where he can take advantage of his strengths, which are clear. Don’t really care that he struggled to elevate the Rams, because he won’t ever be in that situation with Kelly as coach. It’s also an incredibly subjective way to judge a QB.

  240. 240 Michael Winter Cho said at 4:31 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    How is his performance with the Rams subjective? Do we have many instances of excellent QBs leaving their teams and sucking on new teams?

  241. 241 xmbk said at 5:16 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Judging a qb by how much they “elevate their teammates” is subjective.

  242. 242 Jernst said at 2:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    And, really…it is a small sample size AND it’s not valid data. So saying small sample size isn’t really wrong, it’s just incomplete. And, every time I hear “small sample size” from one of these pundits I also hear them qualify it by saying it’s also “just the preseason” and all the other qualifications about effort, game planning and starters sitting out that go along with it. Which is another way of saying it’s also not valid data, on top of being a small sample size. So, really, what did that article offer, besides helping us define the term validity in terms of stats.

  243. 243 RobNE said at 2:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    it let the guy sound like a nerd

  244. 244 MattE said at 1:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    just heard a great hypothetical on the radio:

    “As of this very moment would you trade Bradford for Mariota straight up?”

    My answer: Yes.

  245. 245 A_T_G said at 1:16 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think the contract situations make it a pretty easy yes. Five years cost controlled versus free agent in 9 months?

    Give them the same contract, say 3 years at $10 million per year, and I’ll stick with Bradford.

  246. 246 MattE said at 1:19 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    true about the contracts….. everything equal I would probably still make the move. I apologize about bringing Mariota up again, but with RG3 and Bradford looking good makes me think about the last few months lol.

  247. 247 ACViking said at 1:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    hard choice in the short term.

    but must dissent looking at the next 5-7 years — and w/ QBs, if you have a good one, they don’t get away (unless they miss 25 out of 42 games).

    I’d bet on Mariotta’s performance ceiling being higher 2-3 years down the line than Bradford’s.

  248. 248 anon said at 1:35 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    mobility, even just pocket mobility helps win championships

  249. 249 A_T_G said at 2:05 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I wasn’t worried about losing him. To me, the biggest difference with their contract is Mariota essentially gives his team an extra $20 million of cap space compared to Bradford. You can buy a lot of complimentary pieces with that money.

  250. 250 OregonDucker said at 2:06 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’m not so sure. Sam’s ability to read a D scheme is worth a lot of money. Rookie QBs don’t always graduate in this area. The all 22 analysis by Duffy showed Bradford’s reading proficiency.

  251. 251 RogerPodacter said at 2:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    sounds like a good read. where can i find this article?

  252. 252 OregonDucker said at 2:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Here ya go. Chip uses the “triangle” a lot in games. It is important for fans to understand this.

  253. 253 RogerPodacter said at 2:11 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    awesome!!! thanks, man!

  254. 254 botto said at 2:14 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I heard the triangle offense has won a few championships already! that’s great news

  255. 255 RogerPodacter said at 2:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    loved the ST breakdown in there too. Hicks might be playing like a rookie LB, but he’s already contributing on STs!

  256. 256 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I saw that… I didn’t even notice Bradford moving the safety during the game but I was curious to if he had or if the guy was just out of position

  257. 257 OregonDucker said at 2:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No, watch Sam’s eyes and footwork on the Celek TD. First he looks off the safety, then bounces his feet to suggest he is throwing to the sideline. At the last millisec he shifts his feet to align for the Celek throw. This, my friends, is BIG TIME talent.

  258. 258 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:15 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I never paid much attention to him before… but his arm talent is impressive. The ball is on a rope and right where it needs to be.

  259. 259 OregonDucker said at 2:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    His footwork is outstanding. He’s well balanced, except on the Burton TD. There he had to zing a short throw before he was hit..

  260. 260 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’m ready for that deep passing attack we missed once Sanchez took over last year.

  261. 261 OregonDucker said at 2:24 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    When the safeties start cheating on the runs, wheel routes, and crossing patterns, you will see deep balls to wide open WRs.

  262. 262 ACViking said at 2:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


    Agree on the near term (as I wrote).

    I took the long view. Only reason.

    If the question is just about SB v. MM for 2015 — not a contest.

  263. 263 OregonDucker said at 2:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I would take the SB, Super Bowl, every time. 🙂

  264. 264 RobNE said at 1:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yes easily even if they had the same contract.

  265. 265 MattE said at 1:23 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’d still do it even if a 1st rd pick was also involved.

  266. 266 RobNE said at 1:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    if we all say yes is it a great hypothetical?

  267. 267 RobNE said at 1:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    oh I see ATG said no. He’s a contrarian.

  268. 268 MattE said at 1:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    rhetorical hypothetical?

  269. 269 CrackSammich said at 1:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    If it’s working with Bradford, why would you change it for something that *might* be better? No.

    (answer subject to change after the predictable injury to Sam’s knee…)

  270. 270 MattE said at 1:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    disclaimer approved lol

  271. 271 MattE said at 1:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ^^^^^^^that was to take a temperature of Bradford-itis.

  272. 272 botto said at 1:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t know. Bradford has a better arm by far. which makes his accuracy better too. he gets way more excited and fired up then mariotta too.
    I think id stick with samuel

  273. 273 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 1:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Rather have the QB who can throw into small windows . Not saying Mariota wont be good, but he wont be what we need at QB this year.

    Never mind…. I’m actually not sure

  274. 274 D3FB said at 2:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:




    Injury liability.

  275. 275 ACViking said at 1:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Where is Baloophi?

  276. 276 Avery Greene said at 1:58 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’m not enough for you???

  277. 277 A_T_G said at 2:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He responded to a comment I made a few days ago. I assume he is easing himself back into football commenting shape. You know, pulling away from real-life social scenes and lowering expectation for work performance to create time for this.

  278. 278 RobNE said at 2:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    he’s out with a knee. Thought he’d play week 3. But now maybe preseason week 4.

  279. 279 MattE said at 2:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ditto. (Mid-season form)

  280. 280 RobNE said at 2:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    some of us need training camp and the preseason camps. Some of us don’t.

  281. 281 Michael Winter Cho said at 4:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Preseason? We’re talking about preseason?

  282. 282 laeagle said at 3:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Busy with work.

  283. 283 unhinged said at 4:00 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Isn’t that a town near Tijuana?

  284. 284 GEAGLE said at 1:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s crazy how easy the the beginning of The schedule is for the Colts and Dolphins… They basically start the season against the 5 worst starting QBs in the game..
    Bills are starting to be concerned with Shadys hamstring and worry he won’t be ready for week 1, so why the hell would you cut Fred Jackson yesterday? There is a report that the GM went “Rogue” and got rid of Fred on his own.
    We should just troll the NFL and sigń Fred Jackson and keep 5 RBs lol, force a team that has RB injuries to trade something for Fred…Surprised the Cowboys or Patriots haven’t been linked to him yet, did he leave seattle without a deal?
    Fingers crossed Cowboys add Trent Richardson to their “great” RBs…
    We are in desperate need of a backüp center. Hopefully we get lucky on the waiver wire..

  285. 285 RogerPodacter said at 1:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    is Richardson to the Cowboys something that has been discussed somewhere? or are you just hoping? (that would be hilarious)

  286. 286 GEAGLE said at 1:58 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I heard it mentioned on TV on my way out this morning, but I didn’t hear if it was a report of just an analyst speculating…. There is a video of Ryan Clarke on one of the Espn shows making a case for why Trent is the worst RB of all time..

  287. 287 RogerPodacter said at 2:00 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    you bet we’d hear nothing but “Trent sucked before, but behind OUR OL, he will put up AllPro numbers! lead the league in ypc and TDs.” bwahahahaha

  288. 288 Fufina said at 2:05 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    We totally would exclusively hear that… he is destined to be a cowgirl.

  289. 289 peteike said at 2:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    no hes destined for insurance work

  290. 290 RobNE said at 2:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    can’t wait to see the banter going into week 2.

  291. 291 GEAGLE said at 2:15 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No Banter… Cowboys will run their mouth a lot, Eagles players won’t say much, but go on to dominate them worst then we did on Thanksgiving… Week 2 vs Dallas shall go down in Eagle history as the “No Vaseline Bowl”..

  292. 292 Avery Greene said at 2:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t know. Was it Logan or Cox last year before Thanksgiving that fired the shot across the bow?

    Our team doesn’t really talk much, but I think with the Cowboys/Giants things get taken to a whole new level.

    I’m starting to come around to the idea that both the Cowboys and Giants will be improved in areas this season and make for better games.

    I love the prevailing attitude among fans around the league that the Eagles are soft (probably from Heath Evans) and that they can be knocked around. I think this year, that attitude will change.

  293. 293 xmbk said at 2:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  294. 294 RobNE said at 2:44 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I meant between the fans in the comment sections etc.

  295. 295 GEAGLE said at 2:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Of course… That’s exactly what we would hear

  296. 296 RobNE said at 2:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    this was/is the Pats every year. It’s always like week 7 before they play a real starting QB. I get that the AFC defenses have improved but when you run out garbage QB’s against NE you are likely losing every time.

    next thing you know they ride divisional wins into yet another bye and AFC championship game.

    it’s the GD Groundhog Day movie I’ve been watching for 15 years now hoping for some other ending.

  297. 297 Avery Greene said at 2:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think the Colts defense struggles a bit vs. Mariota if he gets to move around the pocket. But yeah, these are easier schedules.

  298. 298 GEAGLE said at 2:12 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Really cool To see the Eagles put up a big billboard celebrating Mychal KEndricks on I95… It’s clever too… Check it out if you hAvent seen it yet

  299. 299 TypicalDouche said at 2:38 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yea that Kendricks banner is really cool.

    Vic Beasley will be the starting LEO/DE for the Falcons. Him and Gregory in my opinion were better suited as stand up edge rushers instead of hand in the dirt DEs. They both have really slim body types and would be better trying to use their speed as a rookie as OLBs. They both will be dominated fully by big J-Pete.

  300. 300 anon said at 2:38 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yeah Jp is going to straight suplex those dudes.

  301. 301 TypicalDouche said at 2:41 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Can you imagine Peters doing this to someone?. He might put a huge whole in field trying to do that.

  302. 302 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:41 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I can even see Celek running through these guys.

  303. 303 TypicalDouche said at 2:42 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  304. 304 GEAGLE said at 3:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Seriously!!! Our TE could block them in the run to start the season, Jason Peters would Toy with them

  305. 305 GEAGLE said at 3:01 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I can’t even believe they would dare start Vic Beasley in his first NFL game against Jason Peters, that’s crazy!!! Same with Randy Gregory who won’t be strong enough as a rookie to set the edge… They both could use their explosiveness and speed to make some plays rushing the passer, but those two should killed against the run especially the first month of the season.. To me OLBs are almost like Corners as in guys I would rather sit their first year..shade Hageman has to have a monster game for them to stand a chance against our run.,

  306. 306 TypicalDouche said at 3:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    My point exactly brother. Sucks to be these 2 rookies having to square off against a mountain of a man in Peters in just there 1st and 2nd career starts.

  307. 307 GEAGLE said at 3:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s so crazy that I have to see it to believe it.. Lane Johnson would ragdoll them this soon in their career, what’s JP going to do to them?… Be great if our run game is unstoppable the first two weeks of the season, to the point we can mostly run, only have Bradford throw like 20 passes,
    Easing him back into the gunslinger role…
    It’s IMPERATIVE that we get off to a good start early in the season especially in terms of keeping Sammy protected.. No better way to protect a QB then to run the ball and throw a lot of quick hitters, which we have the weapons to do… Let the TEs, RBs and WRs carry Sammy early into the season, allowing him to get comfortable early on, get some confidence that we will keep him protected..
    It’s CRUCIAL that the Falcons game doesn’t look like opening game against the jags last year where Foles started the season taking an absolute beating in the first game.. Bradford is going to eat some big hits at some point, but it can’t happen the first game of the season.. Gotta keep him clean and show him that we will protect him here much more then the Rams ever did, ease him back into the game, make the first two games very QB Friendly.. Offensive line, the run game, and the play calling all need to do their part protectIng Sammy especially to start the season..

  308. 308 CrackSammich said at 3:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I called you out, so it’s only fair to credit you where it is due.

    GEAGLE is now spelling Kendricks’ first name correctly, everyone!

  309. 309 A Roy said at 3:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Next thing you know, it’ll be MYchal, though.

  310. 310 Sean Stott said at 4:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Here’s to hoping Beasley and Gregory have the same issue as MS2 – too light for an NFL edge rusher.

  311. 311 Spooonius said at 4:31 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Damn. I would love to drive by that on the way to work every morning.

  312. 312 MattE said at 2:41 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Side-note: Shaun Oakman (Monster from Baylor) is from Phila? Dismissed from PSU?

  313. 313 TypicalDouche said at 2:44 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Thats correct. Dude is an absolute beast at that.

  314. 314 MattE said at 2:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    hopefully he slips next year lol

  315. 315 TypicalDouche said at 2:47 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    lol That’d be nice but I don’t see him making it out of the top 15

  316. 316 GEAGLE said at 2:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Probably won’t falls to us, love Oakman and Bosa., if we lose someone like Thornton and need to draft a DE early, I assume would have some interest in Oregons deforest Buckner somewhere in the 20’s… While Arik Armstead was. Very talented under achiever, Buckner is like the opposite, High Charechter over achiever, hard worker, much more productive… Like Hart and Huff, I can see envision chip liking this duck..a more explosive, more productive, more talented Taylor Hart type…

    Kid should make a ton of plays this year..look forward to seeing him on Saturday night

  317. 317 Anders said at 2:59 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Oakman is bad, Buckner from Oregon is much better

  318. 318 TypicalDouche said at 3:02 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He is definitely not bad and him and Buckner are neck and neck in terms of talent.

  319. 319 D3FB said at 8:05 AM on September 3rd, 2015:

    He’s not bad, but he’s drastically overhyped. If he doesnt make significant strides, he’s a top 40 guy. Not top 10-15.

  320. 320 MattE said at 2:53 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    big people beat up little people, but Oakman gives Chuck Norris a run for his money.

  321. 321 TypicalDouche said at 2:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    lol Touche sir

  322. 322 GEAGLE said at 3:14 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Part of me is still having a hard time buying that Jerry actually has the audacity to go into the season with Joseph Randle and McFadden.. If you think Joseph Randle should have to almost 50-50 split carries with Darren friggin McFadden what’s that say about Randle? If Murray and McFadden were on the same team it would be like an 85% Murray, 15% McFadden… Not a huge vote of confidence for Randle if he is going to have like a 60/40 split with such an underachiever..

    I joke and talk trash about how crappy Dallas RBs are, but part of me is still holding my breathe waiting for “another shoe to drop” because even for Jerry it’s so hard to believe that they will really go from Denarco to Randle/McFadden, even by their dysfunctional standards I find that hard to believe.. Part of me is still waiting for the Cowboys to surprise and announce some trade that would save their run game… But these fools are starting to seem dead serious about Randle/McFadden tandem which Is laughable… How much would they really like McFadden if he didn’t come from Arkansas?
    Romo is almost 40yrs old, they need to contend NOW, if I were them, I would have to make some offer a team like the Bengals can’t refuse and trade for Giovanni Bernard or make a trade with some other team who has a quality #2 RB..
    Part of me wants to see a Dallas 5 win implosion season, but I have too much of a man crush on Ohio St caveman RB Zeke Elliot.. I don’t want Dallas to be so bad that they get to draft high enough to run Zeke Elliot against us for the next 7 years.. So hopefully Dallas wins about 9 games, and just miss the playoffs while we win the division..

    It’s so hard to believe they aren’t going to sign anyone and really go into the season with Randle/McFadden… Once Dallas kicks off the season without adding any RBs I think I will start laughing hysterically at the audacity to go from Demarco to such an average tandem

  323. 323 TypicalDouche said at 3:47 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    First off dont mention the manimal Zeke in the same sentence at the Cowturds please lol. I do not wanna to fathom that happening.

    Now onto there RB situation I honestly think Jones is happy with McFadden being that he’s had a mancrush on McFadden since Arkansas.

  324. 324 GEAGLE said at 3:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Can’t let Dallas have a top 15 pick.. Hopefully they have a year like we had last year, they miss the playoffs and end to picking in the 19-22 range where they can get Zeke… that’s the one kid I don’t want to see play for our rivals

  325. 325 Avery Greene said at 3:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Was checking out bloggingtheboys seeing what the enemy is thinking. They think their rookie is better than Fletcher Cox. LOL.

  326. 326 GEAGLE said at 3:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Huh? What rookie? Tyrone Smith and Dez Bryant are the only players they have with the elite talent level of Cox… Poor simple bastards, bless their Inbred cowboy hearts

  327. 327 Avery Greene said at 3:33 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Randy Gregory.

  328. 328 GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Hahahahaha they wish..not to mention they are drastically different players.. Is Geegory even as young as Cox was during his rook year?… I can’t believe their is a human being alive that thinks they have a rookie as good as Cox smh… Even Leonard Williams, the best player in this draft isn’t ready to play at Cox level this year…people are friggin nuts.. Cox was only behind JJwatt last year as 3-4 DEs who pressure QBs and he was dominant in the run game living in opponents backfield, not to mention how much he helped guys like Barwin put up major stats..end what’s funny is we probably haven’t seen anything yet. Last year Cox finally realized how dominant he is, when that happens you usually see a monster next season! Cox is going to have a fantastic season especially since the talent around him is upgraded with Logan growing into a beast, adding Kiko… So giddy to see Mykal and Kiko run around behind how young dominant DL who goes by “The No Names”….

  329. 329 RobNE said at 4:04 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    isn’t Gregory light? let’s see how that works out in year 1.

  330. 330 Sean Stott said at 4:22 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Cox has pushed Tyron Smith around in past outings.

  331. 331 botto said at 3:33 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    this is shaping up to be the best second game of the season ever

  332. 332 Avery Greene said at 3:34 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Usually I stay home for national games, but the 1st two games of the season might be spent at the Eagles bar near my house.

  333. 333 GEAGLE said at 4:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No Vaseline bowl!!!!
    I really wanted to open the season @ Dallas, but week 2 is the next best thing

  334. 334 unhinged said at 3:42 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Gregory? Ha-ha. He played run pretty well in college, stacking way bigger tackles with freakish long arms, but I really think JP rides him into row 8.

  335. 335 Greg Richards said at 3:53 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I’d assume they were talking about La’El Collins as he would likely match up against Cox. Granted, they’re delusional, but that makes the most sense.

  336. 336 whitebrownsimmons said at 3:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Trade Barkley for RGIII

  337. 337 botto said at 3:42 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    rg3 is a ragdoll

  338. 338 whitebrownsimmons said at 4:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    And Barkley is a ragarm

  339. 339 Avery Greene said at 3:43 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Not for $16 million.

  340. 340 whitebrownsimmons said at 4:31 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Is he getting that much $$

  341. 341 GEAGLE said at 4:02 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    God no

  342. 342 GEAGLE said at 3:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The Saints corner who shut down Desean, Keenan Lewis is going to miss 4-8 weeks, possibly Not being ready for the Eagles game. Who even know if Byrd will be back by then… Curious to see the year Brandon Browner has for them, and if Stanley Jean Baptiste will ever step up.. They will have to count on rookies to replace the pass rush they lost cutting Galette….curious to see what their OL will look like… It’s unacceptable to lose more then 1 game to that crappy division this year.. Ideally we run the table getting back to beating the teams we are supposed to beat which we got away at the end of last season.. inexcusable to lose to rookie QB Winston., unacceptable to lose to a 6 win at best Falcon team on Monday night, Inexcusable to lose to the panthers because not only has our Defenae passed their defense by, but no way that offense can put up points to hang with our offense, Defense and ST that will all contribute to putting points on The scoreboard.. ..
    leaving the saints as the only team in that division that should stand a chance against us, but because they eliminated us from the playoffs our players should get their revenge in this game.. Bennie Logam I’m sure is eager to show tj he isn’t a rookie any more, plus human nature says sproles and Jenkins will be jacked up to perform that week…
    If we do what we have done the majority of the team since chip arrived beating the teams we are supposed to beat, we should be able to dominate that division, and it’s unacceptable to lose more then 1 or 2 games against our Rivals (my dream is 6-0 in the division), how we do against the Pats division should determine if we are still a 10 win team or are we ready to become a 12 win team?

  343. 343 EagleNebula said at 3:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Hell froze over, Eskin is making sense:

  344. 344 Sean Stott said at 4:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I don’t know what Celek hit he’s talking about, but the Bradford hit, according to the rules interpretation, was 100% legal. You can hit QBs on any ambiguous mesh point, shotgun, under center, zone read, it doesn’t matter.

  345. 345 Greg Richards said at 4:23 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The problem is his rules interpretation is incorrect. He references the mesh point and says it’s okay to hit the QB at the mesh point with reference to the Bradford hit, ignoring the reality that the ball had already been handed off and was well past the mesh point.

  346. 346 Sean Stott said at 4:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    But you have to give the rusher 2 steps to readjust once the QB clearly does not have the ball. Based on this new interpretation, I think it could be open season on bootlegs, shotgun handoffs, etc. Could prompt a rethink.

  347. 347 RogerPodacter said at 4:58 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    judging by this angle, the rusher had at least 2 steps. he’s just planted one step, has another to go to get to the QB, and the RB with the ball is already 3-4 steps ahead.

    Sam Bradford clearly a threat to run for a 72 yard TD here.— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) August 23, 2015

  348. 348 peteike said at 5:00 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    thats not really fair, those plays happen so fast. I cant stand the guy, dont want to defend him but this would have been much less most likely had he just tackled him at his waist.

  349. 349 RogerPodacter said at 5:05 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yea, i can understand the ‘it happens fast’ argument. but if we’re defining our rules based on the number of steps away from the QB the pass rusher is, this would be a late hit.
    i don’t think its something you can say is “X steps from the QB is a penalty, < X steps is close enough". different people have different strides. what happens if the defender jumps/dives, etc. so obviously 2 steps is not going to work. i'm assuming that was just Sean's example and not Blandino's ruling. I HOPE.

    more concerning to me is:
    1) he hit the guy at the knees
    2) he drove in head first (spear) so you could tell he was not even looking for the ball.
    3) Bradford is practically showing his empty hands to Suggs. there is no way that an elite athlete cannot decide to pull up in that amount of time.

  350. 350 peteike said at 5:08 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    let me edit that initial comment, he knew what he was doing and you can see SB doesnt
    have the ball. Cheap shot for sure. I guess Im saying if they are going to allow that (like you elude to per Bandino) then the timing was okay. Its actually the exact timing guys will take shots on if they really do allow that. I mentioned this before, I still think they will get flagged and defenders may not care. Its just the fine then that wont be there I guess which will make this all so dumb if it persists.

  351. 351 RogerPodacter said at 5:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yea, i think we are on the same page. in the end, its a silly interpretation of some vague wording of rules, but its (apparently) now the law so we all have to deal with it.

  352. 352 kevinlied said at 5:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    In discussing the “cheap shot” allegations after the fact, Suggs said: “I could’ve hit him harder on that. I didn’t. I eased up.” To me, that statement suggests that it wasn’t ambiguous in Suggs’s mind as to whether Bradford still had the ball. And if he knew Bradford didn’t have the ball, it was a cheap shot, whether it was against the rules or not.

  353. 353 RogerPodacter said at 5:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    oh, yeah. absolutely. there is no doubt in my mind that Suggs had intent to injure and it was premeditated.
    * he asked the ref how the rule worked before the game
    * he claims to have eased up which admits that he knew he should not be doing this.
    * he had his head down for the end of the run which tells that he had already decided who he was going to hit. there was no ‘fake’
    * he hit him at the knees and then spun him around

  354. 354 kevinlied said at 5:16 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I didn’t know that he asked the ref how the rule worked before the game. Jesus. What a dick.

  355. 355 Sean Stott said at 5:53 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yea I just want to clarify that I agree with all the concerns listed, for sure. I just wanted to share the official interpretation for why that hit was justified as legal.

    I think that there’s a hidden bias that, in actual games, will favor teams who don’t ever run a zone read scheme and punish those who do, even when the play in question is 100% intended as a handoff to the RB.

  356. 356 Greg Richards said at 5:40 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That “2 steps” is nowhere in the actual rulebook.

  357. 357 peteike said at 4:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    well, those plays happen so fast I dont know that the defender knows the runner has the ball already. According to his ruling, there would be no fine so per that it just isnt happening no matter if Phila media/fans complain or not. Yeah, will the chickens come home to roost on that one this season is another conversation. Celek facemask deserved a fine.

  358. 358 Sean Stott said at 4:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    just to add, I’m NOT in favor of this, but the Dean Blandino video clearly explains it, and leaves very little ambiguity.

  359. 359 Greg Richards said at 5:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I saw the video. He talks about how it’s legal for the QB to be hit at the mesh point, ignoring the fact that it is past the mesh point. He says the defenders will be given the benefit of the doubt which is completely inconsistent with how the QB is treated in other situations. I’d agree it’s difficult for the defender to know that the ball is out. It’s also difficult for the defender to not hit the QB when he’s pass-rushing at full speed and the pass is thrown at the last second. The league is arbitrarily giving the QB the benefit of the doubt in one situation and not in the other.

  360. 360 OregonDucker said at 6:57 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No, I think the league is sending Chip a message. We don’t want you to succeed.

  361. 361 OldDocNewSeason said at 4:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He gave Celek a facemask/clothesline combo to take him down in the first Q. It was pretty nasty, and given that Celek was nowhere near the ball, blatantly cheap.

  362. 362 xmbk said at 4:48 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No. Nothing ambiguous on that hit, too many people quoting an irrelevant rule.

  363. 363 Sean Stott said at 4:50 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Watch the video explaining the rule.

  364. 364 xmbk said at 5:13 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Done. Confirms what I saw every other time. Blandino is either an idiot or intentionally misinterpreting the rule. It was clear to the refs and anyone who plays football that Bradford no longer had the ball. If Suggs didn’t know that, he wouldn’t be playing in the NFL. Blandino may be too slow to see that play develop, but it’s probably due to brain damage from partying on Jerry’s bus.

    Terrible call, going to create controversy this year, and the NFL will have to somehow backtrack and cover their butts. The lack of fines for Celek and the punch are extremely suspicious.

  365. 365 peteike said at 5:16 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    that picked up flag, reversal on the PI in Detroit game, the conspiracy games have just begun

  366. 366 Avery Greene said at 5:30 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    This is my thought as well. Fine the clothesline was a “mistake” or in the game action. But a punch in the gut? That’s bull dookey.

  367. 367 xmbk said at 8:06 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That clothesline was no mistake, not even close to a football move.

  368. 368 Avery Greene said at 8:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    We agree, I’m just trying to give as much leeway as possible in looking at the situation. The same way you give your opponent the strongest version of their argument before ripping it apart.

  369. 369 Sean Stott said at 5:44 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    couldn’t agree more.

  370. 370 xmbk said at 5:29 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Thank you for providing that link, btw, never saw it before. I know you didn’t put it up just to get ripped. But Blandino is trying to lawyer away some bs on his part, imnsho.

  371. 371 GEAGLE said at 4:49 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    What ambigious mesh point? He handed the ball off and stood still, didn’t execute any fake whatsoever and got fuckin knees dove at after a simple hand off… How is that,Legal? Doubt it’s legal if Kiko knocks Aaron Rodgers unconsious after he hands the ball off…. I hope Kiko destroys a prominent QB after he hands it off.., some times a pitcher needs to hit a batter

  372. 372 Sean Stott said at 4:50 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Watch the video explaining the rule. It was a 100% legal hit, ***ACCORDING TO THE CURRENT INTERPRETATION OF THE RULE***

  373. 373 GEAGLE said at 5:07 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    What MESH point? What you are saying is after a QB bands the ball off its a “mesh point” and a QB can be hit? GTFO here… I don’t need to watch some bogus video crap that I have no doubts refs will backtrack on It and change it again… I understood the original rule just fine,. If you want to use your QB as an option to run in order to freeze the dense then your Qb so allowed to get hit.. The difference is Bradford stood still after handing the ball off, he wasn’t a threat to do anything. It wasn’t a read OPTION which is what the rule was created for.. You can see the difference 22 hours after the bradford hit when the Rams played the Titans.. Mariota handed the ball off, but then executed a fake after handing it off pretending he had the ball he ran to the right away from where the RB was running with the Ball.. At the point whereMariota was running to the right carrying out the fake, Chris Long could have BLOWN Mariota up but understanding iTs the friggin preseason, Long had some class and pulled up without drilling the rookie.. THAT would have been a LEGAL hit because THAT was what the rule was created for. Now if there is some dumb video out by that cowboy groupie head of Officiating THATS different from what the original rule was, I don’t care to see it because I bet anything it will be changed back to the original rule… Without a QB executing a Fake its a simple handoff, and if they put out some video going against the original rule that says you can now hit QBs after any handoff It won’t last more then two weeks before Rex Ryan or some DC has thei player destroy a Harmless QB after handing it off, and the rule will be changed back to what it was originally intended to do, govern reid OPTIONS,,,, when we run a read option feel free to hit bradford all you want, but you don’t get to hit our QB after a simple inside ZONE where our QB is ZERO threat to the defense.. If you hand The ball off and stand still ypu can’t be drilled. And if the league is saying that now you can, that new rule won’t last more then two weeks.
    bradford was of NO threat to the defense after handing the ball off, so you don’t get to hit him… If he did what Mariota did, try to freeze the defense by pretending you have the ball running away from the play like he did against the Rams, THEN you can tee off on the QB, because it’s only fair that if you use the QB to freeze the defense he should be able to be hit… bradford NEVER did that…. He didn’t put the ball in the RB gut and ride the RB for a few yards before pretending to take the ball out of his gut and running away from the play trying to freeze defenders,.. If that clown Baldino has changed the rule from what it was intended, it won’t last more then two weeks in the regular season… In what world can you tee off on QBs after they are no threat or consequent to the play? Billy Davis is right, no matter who says what now, the league will always protect the QBs in the end, no chance in hell that shit stands..just wait Til Rodgers, wilson get drilled when they don’t expect it after a simple, non threatening handoff, watch how quickily the send a new video out

  374. 374 xmbk said at 5:14 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The video clarifies that the read option doesn’t matter. But you are 100% correct that it was clear Bradford did not have the ball.

  375. 375 GEAGLE said at 5:24 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Funny, this was originally created because of the Read Option, because if you want to use your QB as a threat to freeze the defense it’s only right that a defender can hit the QB.. But if they are now saying its not about the read option and you can hit the QB after any hand off, that new,rule won’t last TIL week 3..
    STRATEGICALLY running the fuckin ball is how you PROTECT QBs.. It’s how the Cowboys kept Romo and his Bionic back on the field last year.. If Blandino is dumb enough to now say it’s open season on QBs after they hand the Ball off, it would NEVER last, half the starters would get hurt before mid season… You will NEVER be able to hit a QB when he isn’t threatening the defense after he hands the ball off no matter what this video says… And if Blandino wants to play like that, my man VINNY Curry won’t let Romo get to halftime of week 2 healthy… Don’t mind sacraficing Romo if that’s what needs to be done to protect sammy

  376. 376 Ark87 said at 5:37 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    as far as I’m concerned, if a QB keeps the ball in that situation, and he’s not moving, he’s a passer plain and simple, Then putting your head down (attacking with the crown) AND low at the knees, not just dirty, personal foul 15 yards and finable in my opinion. If it’s a play action pass and everyone know’s he’s a passer, you can’t go low on the QB, you can’t hit him in the head, all the protections a QB is afforded still apply.

    You want to pretend he’s still got the ball and get a cheap shot, fine, you’re a dirty idiot, but fine. But it’s dumb to pretend that if a QB fakes a hand off he isn’t a QB anymore. He’s still a passer first and foremost.

  377. 377 MagsDogDays said at 6:52 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    from Kempski:

    The Dean of Party Buses chimed in:

    “We can’t explain the rules. Therefore no foul.”

  378. 378 RogerPodacter said at 4:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Video of Sugg's pulling Celek down by his face mask #Eagles— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) August 25, 2015

  379. 379 RogerPodacter said at 4:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    thats nasty AF.

  380. 380 Ark87 said at 5:01 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    there’s clothes line and there is running full speed and grabbing the face mask of a guy going the other way. That’s so dangerous, I never wished injury on a player before, but that guy is building up some serious bad Karma that I wouldn’t mind catching up to him.

  381. 381 GEAGLE said at 5:10 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah that’s like really dangerous scumbag thing to do especially by a veteran to another fellow veteran in a Fuxkin preseason game.. How disgusting… No worries brother. We play the Ravens division next year, Suggs will have to Atone for his sins…I’ll be sick if the Ravens cut Suggs after this year before we get to take shots at him next year

  382. 382 RogerPodacter said at 5:15 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    i was hoping to see one of the TE ‘crackback’ blocks or whatever they were calling it. ‘wham’ blocks?
    where the DE *thinks* he is unblocked, but then the TE from the other side of the formation comes across an hits him.

  383. 383 peteike said at 5:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    wasnt that the Bronco special

  384. 384 RogerPodacter said at 5:20 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    not sure what you mean. i found an example of it at ChipWagon in here:

    “sift block” is what i was looking for.

  385. 385 Ark87 said at 5:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The Broncos were notorious for chop blocking guys already engaged in a block at one point. Was coached to do so.

  386. 386 peteike said at 5:48 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    their super bowl years, late 90s if Im not mistaken. The o line did chop blocks or cut blocks often

  387. 387 Ark87 said at 5:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    the lower the better

  388. 388 GEAGLE said at 5:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    He better play against us next year! Give
    Brent Celek 60 minutes to find the right moment, and he will fuck Suggs world up after he tried to break Celeks neck with the equivalent of the ju jItsu move by the name of “The Twister”..

  389. 389 GEAGLE said at 4:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    More disturbing that you can sucker punch our backups who had the Discapline not to retaliate and the refs don’t even fuckin protect a player that was punched..

  390. 390 RogerPodacter said at 4:52 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    what about the guy that sucker punched the backup OL in the gut? i don’t see any possible way that would not come with a fine.

  391. 391 xmbk said at 4:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    PFT has been really stupid about that late hit from Suggs. Latest is “Chip Kelly finally understands late hit rule on qb’s”. Takes Kelly at his literal word on recent comments, completely overlooks that Kelly was driving home the point that any qb can be hit, not just one executing a read option. Pretty sure the league and other coaches understood.

    Also obvious that far too many people didn’t actually watch the play. Bradford clearly no longer had the ball, blatant penalty. Everything else is agendas,politics, and stupidity.

  392. 392 MagsDogDays said at 6:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Stupidity outweighs every other factor when discussing politics or sports or parenting or bad driving. Stupidity just stands there sucking its thumb and shouting down any intelligent thought.

    Double application. Think NY Giants.

  393. 393 Spooonius said at 4:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Just for fun, I went back and checked out the comments right after the bradford/foles trade. I’m seriously considering changing my screen name to chicken little.

  394. 394 peteike said at 4:58 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    of course fans eventually get on board, what did you expect. I was so upset initially then you get to the acceptance stage like ya, maybe he does have upside. Now you see it and get why Rams fans kept staying with the guy. I couldnt understand that part for the life of me, I thought they should have moved on sooner and now look. Still has to stay healthy, the caveat every talking head throws in when Eagles are discussed.

  395. 395 Spooonius said at 6:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    True, he has to stay healthy, but as GE pointed out, it’s not like Foles was the picture of health. Actually when is the last time we had a QB play a full season? I would look but I’m pretending to work.

  396. 396 sonofdman said at 6:28 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    McNabb in 2009?

  397. 397 Spooonius said at 6:44 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think it was 2008. The year he got benched in Baltimore. My wife was pregnant and I was putting my son’s crib together and cursing profusely.

  398. 398 sonofdman said at 11:43 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Good call. Kolb started 2 games in 2009.

    I had my son in the fall of 2008 – 2 weeks before the Phillies won the World Series. When the Eagles went on that run and made the NFC championship game I thought he was my good luck charm.

  399. 399 xmbk said at 5:19 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Plenty of others on there should as well. I give xeynon credit, he has already manned up and admitted he was wrong.

  400. 400 GEAGLE said at 5:53 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    At some Point the entire city will have to admit to being wrong,,, heck It’s not even just about Bradford, mostly every move chip made initially was hated, and then aFter a day or two some of us start seeing the light… So many people hated the shady Trade, I remember my first comments was YES!!!!! Getting Kiko for me was a pipe dream or so I thougjt… But I will almost always root for trading a good pffensive player for a quality defender… But I certainly was confused by the bradford trade when it happened,, im sure part of it was it was so poorly reported that we had some false expectations initially thinking we were also getting a quality dRaft pick but then finding out we lost a 2nd… I would have NEVER guessed Bradford had that much value left…. But value is determined by what someone is willing to pay. It’s not like we were the only team that wanted him. Browns wante Samy Bad and had some nice trade chips with two first rounders.. People can’t say Chip paid too much without knowing what was the Browns offer that we had to beat…I assume that if we didn’t agree on the second round pick sammy would ne in Cleveland today, so can’t say we paid too much… Figure we could have gotten a second round pick from andy in 2013 for FOles so it’s like we traded two 2nd round picks for Bradford, which is what KC paid for to get alex smith… Not bad value…. I would have been perfectly fine staying with FOles, but can’t argue too much with trading a player for a player who’s talent is a tier above.
    What really softened the blow for me after digesting the trade was the Fact that it’s not like FOles has been the poster child for Durability… nicky showed. Ton of toughness but he missed signifcant time as a rookie, two week concussion in year 2, and half the season in year 3.. If FOles had been an Iron man who only missed a start or two in 3 years, it would be a little harder to swallow… I. Sure having one of thebest backups in sanchez made it a little easier to take a flier on a higher level of talent…
    Almost everyone in the city hated the trade at first, but at some point if he stays in games everyone will come around….
    Feel like the trade can’t go well for both teams…. One team is going to be upset. Either We can’t keep SAM on the field and end up hating the trade, or we keep Bradford on the field and Rams fans will be sick whenthey see how well he can play…. Sure It’s possibke that SAM and Nick both look good, but SAM is a tier above in terms of Talent so if he stays healthy it’s inevitable the Rams will be sick…

  401. 401 anon said at 5:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    “I would have NEVER guessed Bradford had that much value left” me neither.

  402. 402 sonofdman said at 6:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    That was the thing for me. I totally misevaluated Bradford’s value. Because Bradford hadn’t played in almost two seasons and Foles had played relatively well with one great season, I thought Foles was worth way more than Bradford. The rest of the NFL thought differently and apparently rightfully so.

  403. 403 FairOaks said at 7:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah… I thought at the time that Bradford had more value overall, but the difference still surprised me.

  404. 404 botto said at 6:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    those throws in the GB game by Sam were really something. I loved Foles, but I think it was mainly because I didn’t like Vick I guess. but seeing the difference in arm strength, release time and accuracy I was blown away by Sammy

  405. 405 anon said at 6:34 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    pretty, catcheable balls, with anticipation. need week 1 to come asap just so i can see a full game of sammy b.

  406. 406 botto said at 6:37 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    he makes it look like we not only have a lot of weapons but we know what to do with them all

  407. 407 OregonDucker said at 6:49 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    You won’t see a full game of Sammy. Most of the time he’ll be pulled by halftime. Why? When the score is 42 – 3, protect your starting QB.

  408. 408 botto said at 5:25 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    this is very interesting.
    a couple of preseason games, just 15 snaps for us to be able to tell unequivocally, Sam is a much better QB then Nick. and Kelly knew the risk was worth taking.
    the guy can sling it.
    it also really puts perspective on how bad the rams offense is (nick also looks like crap in it) compared to what chip does.

    and credit to MKSP there, being positive about he trade from the get go.

  409. 409 OregonDucker said at 6:51 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    It’s more than his ball velocity, or placement, or touch. He looks off defenders, he pump fakes, he shifts his feet to fool DBs. This guy recognizes D coverages and exploits them. Now if he can pick up blitzes, stay cool, and deliver; we got a franchise QB.

  410. 410 FairOaks said at 7:54 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    And continue to play well in crunch time. That was my favorite thing about Foles — he always seemed to give you a chance. With Bradford, no idea how he will respond until we get into those situations. Bradford always did have more talent throwing the ball than Foles will ever have (#1 overall picks don’t get that way without a reason), and it appears that Kelly will be able to harness that much better than St. Louis ever did, so we do have a chance to be great — which is what you want from that trade. Bradford was never really able to take the Rams on his back, but the way things look here, he won’t have to do that for the Eagles — there are more targets to throw to than he’s ever had.

  411. 411 Avery Greene said at 5:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Okay, I was wrong.

  412. 412 MagsDogDays said at 6:32 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Is the dessert spoon for the humble pie? ;~)

  413. 413 cliff-Y U on a knee, 99?! said at 5:27 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yeah, i remembering thinking Eagles got SB and the 10th pick for Foles. and still wasnt happy. though i didnt like Bradford cause he got the old CBA 1st pick money sal cap killer for guy who’s never played nfl down, and i hate dome teams. pretty sure i never watched an down he played on Rams, unless they played Eags and i forgot, so didnt know about talent level, all i knew was 2 ACLs.

  414. 414 Fufina said at 5:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I was ultra down on the initial trade, I had forgotten the tools that Bradford had and was just remembering the 5-10 games of rams i saw in 2012-2013 where their offence was just putrid, flat and uninspired. Because they almost never passed deep i thought he had no better arm than Foles and just as inaccurate based of his completion %.

    Having watched a range of games (all of 2013) i realised he had nothing around him and a moron as an OC, he has the tools to be a great top 5 QB. He still has things to show me (needs to have some big game performances and to shoulder team when it needs him to do so – needs to stay healthy as well but that is a lesser concern to me).

  415. 415 Avery Greene said at 5:38 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The former I’m not worried about. Since high school he’s been in the spotlight. The latter? We are in total agreement. I worry about his health, but man this kid is a gamer.

  416. 416 peteike said at 5:45 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    we dont know if hes a gamer yet, Ill wait on that one. Has to win some close tight games, the Rams games never mattered ha

  417. 417 Fufina said at 6:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    My complaint watching the rams with Bradford (and it could be all on the OC/HC not him), but too often when chasing the game and the Rams were in 3rd and long he would be going with dump passes and leaving moving the chains to the WR/RB to make a play, or just throw the ball away. I like a QB who will stand in there and make the plays when they need to be made (Bradford has shown some good signs last 2 games).

  418. 418 peteike said at 6:24 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    ya agree, you can see how hes using the scheme to his advantage. Likes throwing to the backs and TEs. I think I recall he did that with the Rams as well. Just hope they get more YAC and opens the WRs up. It does seem to open everything up with the pace and the run game.

  419. 419 OregonDucker said at 8:21 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I see your point Fufina, but you can’t be a surgeon if they give you a dull knife and surround you with bums. Needless to say, the patient was dead before Sammy operated or darn close.

    Verdict is still out though. I want to see how he consistently handles blitzes (The Burton TD was encouraging). And can he win the tough games, like the Hawks for the NFCC or Patriots in the SB.

  420. 420 botto said at 6:24 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    as long as he knows enough to hate the rest of the NFC east and guts out a couple of wins we will be stoked

  421. 421 A_T_G said at 5:45 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    This one was my favorite (name omitted to protect the guilty):


    First of all, I told you so.

    Because I did.

    Secondly, being correct about Kelly destroying the Eagles roster for years to come doesn’t make me feel any better about it.


    And this is what I said:
    Story time:

    I have what I consider an above average sense of direction. My wife has what I would kindly call below average. Sometimes when we are driving I will realize that we will be taking a somewhat circuitous route. I will turn off the main roads and onto unknown roads. I will use the mountains and sun as reference points and make decisions on which way to turn at each intersection. Usually, my wife is pretty agreeable as we leave painted roads, and paved roads if I am lucky, behind. Occasionally, however, she gets annoyed and frustrated before being awed at where we reemerge into civilization.

    Chip has left the paved roads far behind and the road ahead looks like a whole bunch of z’s and w’s all strung out in a line. I won’t call it the Black Bear Road because of the racial implications, but if this doesn’t magically come out near Telluride, I am going to be very disappointed.
    I must say, it is starting to look more like this road comes somewhere in the San Fransisco area, but I am okay with it.

  422. 422 Spooonius said at 6:34 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yeah man! That was a great comment and should have put things into perspective. San Fran would be great, but I’ll take Telluride. Or maybe I should stop trying to make sense of things that I know nothing about. I was born a birds fan, and what I’ve learned over the last 45 years is that if you think negatively, you’re right (much!) more often than not. Unfortunately in that scenario, you aren’t happy with the outcome and you don’t enjoy the ride. Chip is giving us one hell of a ride so I’m gonna do my damnedest to enjoy it. Unless he trades Fletcher Cox. Then all bets are off.

  423. 423 A_T_G said at 7:02 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    The negative fans are “right” for 31 of the teams each year. I have no interest in making the safe bet.

  424. 424 OregonDucker said at 6:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah, I think I see an arena up ahead by a bay. Lots of crazy fans are screaming…..

  425. 425 Flyin said at 9:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Flyin • 6 months ago

    Foles for Bradford… best trade in my lifetime! So illogical it’s logical.

    This is going to be a fun season! The chips are falling into place.

    mksp owned that thread with his mighty knowledge and intelligence.

  426. 426 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:18 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    RG3 talented but needs to change his attitude.. Comes off as a sookie.. Whats up with people thinking Marcus Smith will get the cut??

  427. 427 Avery Greene said at 6:47 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Because he didn’t get 15 sacks as a rookie and now he’s a bust.

  428. 428 botto said at 6:35 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    they posted a picture a few weeks back on Phillymag of Bradford, Sproles, and Deuce talking for apparently a long time after practice.
    I keep thinking that was a big deal now that I see Bradford hit sproles like he does.
    It’s like they were talking about how if they can connect, teams are toast because nobody can cover sproles. I can just imagine those guys just talking and getting excited, and then Bradford hits sproles on that wheel root and the other screen for 33 yards, and I’m like, yep, they are going to kill it together…

  429. 429 anon said at 6:36 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    do i need to spend some money on sproles in my fantasy draft tonight?

  430. 430 botto said at 6:38 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I think maybe so…

  431. 431 peteike said at 6:44 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I dont know, hes down there on rankings because its kind of boom or bust. I like that he can get you points on ST, depending on league of course.

  432. 432 anon said at 6:46 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    yeah i think the ST thing is good, i don’t see him ever running the ball though between DM/RM.

  433. 433 Tdoteaglefan said at 6:50 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    lol, wow the Deadskins are the gift that keeps on giving..

    Now their GM (Mcglonahan) has apparently been having an affair with the ESPN Reporter Dianna Russini…His wife tweeted the reporter asking if the news she reported came from her husbands mouth after he came inside of hers…jeez

  434. 434 MagsDogDays said at 6:59 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Wow. It seems to be increasingly difficult to find a public person with any self-respect any more.

  435. 435 Greg Richards said at 6:59 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    While I’m sure Russini uses her “charms” to develop potential sources through flirtation, I seriously doubt it goes any farther than that. Sort of like I have no chance with that hot Hooters’ waitress that I just gave a 40% tip too even though she smiles at me and rubbed my shoulders.

  436. 436 anon said at 7:09 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    article is hitting PFT — seems his wife thinks something is going on.

  437. 437 Greg Richards said at 7:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Yeah, I don’t buy it was one fake tweet. If it was a fake account, it’s fooled a lot of people as both the real son of McLoughlin’s wife responded to it as well as fellow wifes of other Redskins’ executives. That said, I don’t buy that there was actually anything going on between Russini and McLoughlin.

  438. 438 Avery Greene said at 7:17 PM on September 2nd, 2015:


  439. 439 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:48 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    What a franchise!!

  440. 440 A_T_G said at 7:53 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I bet that tonight, Mrs Marynowitz is very glad to have Jimmy and Les covering the Eagles.

  441. 441 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:56 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    You never know…

  442. 442 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:07 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    Wow, she’s now admitted it.

  443. 443 Greg Richards said at 10:03 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    When a team hires a person who has known alcohol issues as their GM, they shouldn’t be surprised when outside issues arise.

  444. 444 GEAGLE said at 9:55 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    No way… You have to be joking?

  445. 445 HazletonEagle said at 8:26 PM on September 2nd, 2015:

    I saw RG3 play in philly during his rookie year. He had, what they called at the time an LCL injury. He missed something like 2 weeks. The game at philly was his first game back in action. He was wearing a knee brace. Before then he was running around tearing it up in the NFL. I wondered how he would manage on a gimpy knee.
    Guess what.
    He. Looked. Awesome.
    He only tried running one time right in the beginning of the game. He was slow. Didnt gain more than 2 yards. Ran towards the sideline. He wanted no part of contact. He may have run one other time during the game. Maybe. I dont think so.
    He did his work from the pocket. And that was when I was SOLD on him as a future star QB. He didnt NEED to run. He could be a legitimate QB. He made the right decisions with the ball, and threw it accurately.

    Well, not long after that, he sucked. I happened to go to the eagles/redskins game the following year as well. He played. He saw open WRs, but just couldnt get them the ball. He was inaccurate. Couldnt run. Couldnt hit a WR to save his life. Terrible. Thats the way hes been for most of his NFL career. So thats people’s impression of him.
    But I remember that philly game in his rookie year. I saw what he is capable of. Its not a projection. He PROVED it that day.

    Can he ever get that condifence back? I dont know. Maybe not. Id evens say, probably not.
    Do we need him? Hopefully not. Hopefully bradford never throws another incomplete, and RG3 isnt going to become a career backup just yet.

    Am I interested? Yeah. I am. I remember that Philly game. I saw him when he was a star. Not as a star athlete playing QB in the NFL. But at a time when an injury transformed him from star athlete to star QB. He was an actual QB. And a damn good one.

  446. 446 Google said at 9:53 AM on September 7th, 2015:


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