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Posted: September 20th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 614 Comments »I was nervous going into the Dallas game, but sure didn’t expect that.
We hit the low point of the Chip Kelly era, with the team falling to 0-2 and the offense looking completely inept.
The Cowboys backup QB led his offense to 7 points.
Cowboys STs scored 7 points.
Their starting offense was held to just 6.
The mighty Eagles offense…10 points. One friggin’ FG and a garbage time TD.
Ugh.
There are no definitive conclusions to be drawn from this game. This loss doesn’t mean Sam Bradford is a bad QB and the trade was wrong. Or that DeMarco Murray isn’t a good RB. This doesn’t mean Chip Kelly’s offense has been exposed. And on and on.
This was group failure.
There were breakdowns all over the place. Jason Peters missing easy blocks. Jason Kelce had a bad game, topped with an early snap that gave the ball back to Dallas. Jordan Matthews dropped a pass. Miles Austin dropped a pass. Riley Cooper failed to make a grab on a ball that came his way. It seemed like every offensive player had at least one moment in the game that hurt the team.
And Sam Bradford…he was just awful. Bad reads. Bad decisions. Bad throws. Bad, bad, bad game.
In his PC, Chip Kelly focused on the lack of a run game. He was not happy with the O-line at all. Before you pile on Allan Barbre and Andrew Gardner, I think the struggles involved everyone. If it were as simple as one player, I think Kelly would have made a change.
Kelly said he will review the tape and see if any personnel changes need to be made. There isn’t any one thing that I want, beyond simply better execution. Kelly has an offense full of smart, high character guys and right now they are playing dumb. That is as frustrating as anything.
Life seemed so good just 10 days ago. Right now, things are a mess.
Kelly, the staff and players have to find a way to fix the issues if they want to save the season. 0-2 is not good, but the Eagles did catch a break with the Giants blowing another lead and Tony Romo getting hurt. The NFC East remains wide open.
Last week the team played one good half. Today the defense played well, but the offense was awful all game long. And STs chose the wrong week to have a huge breakdown.
So far the 2015 Eagles are a mess. One person isn’t to blame and one person isn’t going to fix this. It will take a group effort. We’re going to find out really quickly how Chip and this team handle adversity.
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I disagree, Tommy. One person is to blame, and it’s Chip Kelly. His moves as GM have not paid off (and his decision at guard has been a disaster) and his preparation as coach has been terrible. There are breakdowns everywhere, and now we’ve had 2 games that we’ve come out flat.
Give the guy more than two games before you bury him
1 and 5 in his last 6
Really, the Eagles have played 6 games in the 2015 season already? Cherrypick stats all you want, it’s only game 2
Cherry pick? It is a plain fact. I am still trying to see where I said “in 2015”
Chip has only been GM relative to the 2015 season.
Okay. Coach Kelly is 1 and 5 in his last six games. Does that make it any better?
You’re kidding yourself. If you know football, Chip is in real trouble.
Yeah – I guess you think Seattle is in trouble too at 0-2? I do know football and I know that game 2 of a season is not time to panic! It might be in your Madden games, but not in the NFL.
You don’t know what you saw then. I saw an O line that wasn’t even there. That’s such an entrenched (pun intended) and compounded problem. And what’s even worse is they had an entire week to fix how bad they looked game one and they came out AGAIN and looked WORSE. What are you not seeing? Sounds like you might be a Chip Fluffer, get outta there for your own good.
You call that burrying? That was an observation. Not one part of what Corry said could be construed as an opinion, it’s what happened.
It was real bad tommy, but I think the NFL is going to let us keep that last TD… So the vaunted offense gets 10 I believe
I almost feel I should concede the fantasy win to my opponent. That touchdown from my QB to my WR won me the matchup.
Almost.
Can you tell I started writing this at the 5-minute mark?
Edited to fix. Thanks for that.
You mean 5 minutes into the game right? Because not that much (other than injuries) changed from that point on.
Well played (and accurate)
The bright side? It’s just week 2..and that might be a bad thing. We still have potential and super emphasis on potential.
“The Eagles did catch a break with the Giants blowing another lead and Tony Romo getting hurt. The NFC East remains wide open.”
I really hate this mindset. Yes, the NFC East looks awful and with Romo going down, there is a very real chance an 8-8 team makes it out of the East. With that said, what is the upside there? I’d love to make the playoffs, but not BECAUSE the other teams in the NFC East let is walk in, but because we have earned a spot in the playoffs. Backing into the playoffs simply to say we got there but then lose because we are a bad team going up against a legitimate playoff team is not valuable experience. If we turn things around and win some games and earn a playoff birth, even if we lose in the playoffs, I’d be happy. But backing in just because one of the NFC east teams HAS to go only translates to a worse draft pick.
Yup, couldn’t have said it better myself. We want to be a good, dominant team, not some team that just gets lucky. We know how that ends.
@ Iskar…
I don’t want to make the playoffs for that reason either. I’d rather the Eagles play well and earn their way in.
That said, you take advantage of a bad situation when you can.
That is more the situation taking advantage of you then the other way around. This team has a bunch of holes at corner, guard and QB we don’t need to go to the playoffs.
I think a way to look at it is not that “we can win as a shitty team because the division is shitty”, but rather, “we can recover from this if we’re the good team we think we are and still get to the playoffs.” My sincere hope is that this is actually a good team that simply hasn’t gotten their act together, and that if that can happen, if they can get their act together, then they’re not in as bad a hole because bad division means better chance to make the playoffs.
The other thing to consider, the flip side to that argument, is that if we can get our act together and be a good team, we’d be screwed if everyone else in the division was playing well.
Well it means we could go 5-7 and finish the season hot and “earn” a playoff berth that way — and hit the playoffs playing well. I’d rather make the playoffs with a good record but I’d also rather make it for any reason instead of not — it gives you a chance. I’m not sure the Giants are ashamed of their two Super Bowls.
Yeah, I’ll take the draft pick rather than the playoffs if we continue
to look like complete garbage out there. But if they get it together,
I’d be happy to see it work out for them that the other teams also underperformed at the beginning of the year…
For everyone pointing out problems – the OL, Maxwell, no LBs left, not resigning Mathis, missing Shady, Bradford is our QB, DJax, and on and on…
Put it together. Its not just one issue. We have multiple big problems. And not bad luck, bad problems.
If I’m a D1 college athletic director looking for a new football coach, I had a good day today.
Texas rumors will be unbearable by october if chip doesn’t turn this around
If Chip doesn’t turn it around and this continues, it won’t be a rumor. It’s gonna happen.
He’d never go to Texas. Chip hates boosters. Texas has the biggest boosters of any school.
He did live with Phil Knight at Oregon.
Rally? How’s Shady done so far this year?
Shady does have the experience with the bills o-line which hasn’t been as good as ours.
i’d take shady’s lines over murrays
I’d take Murray’s TDs over Shady’s crapola
Buge Halls, you are completely insane.
McCoy this year:
Rushing 32 attempts / 130 yds / 4.1 avg
Receiving 6 catches / 73 yds / 12.2 avg
Murray
Rushing 21 attempts / 11 yds (yes that’s correct) / .5 avg
Receiving 9 catches / 64 yds / 7.1 avg.
I see you conveniently left out touchdowns in your little stat review. Nice cherry picking. Rack up all the meaningless yards you want – as usually, McCoy can’t seem to find the endzone
Because I care about football games, not fantasy football. I’d rather have a productive back as part of a productive team. There’s a billion guys that can score from the 2 yard line. Hell, even the Fridge could do that.
I’d rather have a back that can get me to the 2 yard line and give my TEAM a chance to score.
So far, Murray has not proven he can do that.
No one cares about your fantasy football desires.
I know you’re trying to be optimistic, Tommy & God bless you for it. But I’m just beside myself right now. This may have been the single worst NFL game I’ve ever witnessed. And never in a gazillion years did I ever think it would come from a Chip Kelly team. This is astounding.
It’ll be interesting to see where this ranks all time in the pantheon of worst Eagles performances ever, because it definitely deserves a spot.
I’m right with you. I don’t know how Tommy can be optimistic. We are just terrible and I don’t understand why. I want to look for something positive, but I just don’t see anything and I’m normally the optimistic type. I just think the league has figured Chip out, and he made some bad personnel decisions…as sad as it is to say. I’m so disappointed and I hope they turn it around, but I don’t feel very confident at all. This sure looks like a less than.500 team to me.
Why are we terrible? (Assuming we are terrible and this isn’t just a 2-game blip) Some possible reasons:
1. swapping out a better QB for a worse QB
2. swapping out a better RB for two worse RBs
3. swapping out 3 better DBs for 3 worse DBs
4. swapping out 2 better OL for 2 worse OL
5. swapping out 2 better WR for 2 worse WR
6. swapping out better FO for worse FO
and maybe
7. swapping out better coach for worse coach
Makes one wonder if they are tanking on purpose.
Why does Maxwell play like he is Asante Samuel trying to bait the qb for a pick but without the bait part he’s just literally beat
This game was eerily similar to that 17-3 game vs Dallas when Nick Foles looked awful. Defense stepped up in both games. And the next game Foles was back? 7 tds.
Next game we lost to the Giants 15-7.
Next game Foles was back
So you’re saying that if we get Foles back , then the next game the offense will be good again?
Nah I’m just saying there is still hope for the season. We were 3-5 at that point and pulled a division title out of our ass. It’s not looking like it’ll happen this year but you never know in this league
I know. I was just making a joke.
Too depressed right now for jokes. My bad bro
No problem. It’s still early, things look really bad now but hopefully the can turn around.
And we get our draft picks back?
Raiders secondary prob couldn’t even make that mess look good.
2nd half of last week an anomaly or a glimpse of potential after geling
Please…please don’t be 2012….I still remeber the guest post from Sam Lynch about all the terrible coaching hire decisions as well as the personnel decisions…over the next few weeks we will be scrutinizing all of the moves over the past few years….Djax, LeSean, Maclin, Mathis, Boykin….
God bless you and your optimism Tommy. God bless you.
Did anyone think Dallas would be so smart and dastardly, that they would hire Chip Kelly to dismantle a division rival from the inside out? He starts 10-6 to get us hooked lets desean go, 10-6 again trades McCoy,Foles, and let’s Maclin walk. He really got us good! This guy knew everything about Mariota could have traded all of them to get him and doesn’t. In all seriousness though WTF!!!!!
I’m sure I’ll get killed for this, but maybe this is what we needed. There was way too much love to start the season. Team needs to focus, starting with the O-line.
Maybe we need our backs against the wall to bring out the best in the offense. The D learned from their mistakes.
Shouldn’t that have happened after week 1?
If the offense had continued to struggle, yes. That 2nd half gave the media something to yap about.
We may very well end up 6-10, but I’d rather see this crap early rather than late in the season.
Me too. I hope you are right
It did happen after Week 1.
Now again after Week 2.
Is this last week all over again? Too much déjà vu for me…
You’re right that it’s too early to reach definitive conclusions. However, many of those that were skeptics of Chip Kelly’s moves as GM had some of the following worries:
1.)that Sam Bradford, despite his physical gifts, is lacking in other areas that don’t show up in a scouting combine environment and that prevent him from being more than the mediocre NFL QB he was in St. Louis;
2.)that Byron Maxwell is a middling NFL cornerback who was made to look much better than he is by supremely talented teammates in Seattle and will be exposed when he’s expected to be the best defender in a secondary;
3.)that Allen Barbre and Andrew Gardner are NFL journeymen for a reason and that expecting them to suddenly become starting caliber NFL guards in their late 20s and jettisoning a good, proven player in Mathis on the assumption they will do so is a questionable decision:
4.)that guys like Kiko Alonso with serious injury histories cannot be relied on to stay healthy;
5.)that DeMarco Murray would suffer from the record number of touches he had last season and could be expected to take a serious step back;
6.)that Chip’s draft strategy privileged luxuries like a 4th ILB over crying needs like OL depth;
7.)that letting a proven WR in Maclin walk and relying on unproven talents like Huff and Agholor to replace his production was a very serious risk.
You have to admit that after two games the evidence suggests that pretty much every single one of these worries was extremely well founded.
Chip is about to have to worst week of his life. He picked these players, so he has no excuses if he can’t turn it around and win with them.
Very well said, on all points.
In light of the injury situation, I’m not sure I would say that a 4th ILB is a ‘privileged luxury’ (your point 6).
The Hicks pick, after two games, looks like an example of either great foresight or calculated risk management – ie the last two games have made it look better.
That’s all I’ve got.
Jordan Hicks was a valuable player tonight, but keep in mind we also had Najee Goode who would have still been here had it not been for Hicks. Hicks has the upside, but my point is that it wasn’t Hicks vs. no body. There was already the backup player in place and Chip admitted that he was a guy they would have liked to keep.
For what it’s worth, I think Goode is still available.
Can we redraft then?
BPA goes out the window when you lose two in a row?
Yeah, Goode was there. But if we didn’t have Hicks now, ILB would still be a big need.
Xeynon’s other points, for the skeptics, are all of the form – ‘we told you this was going to turn out bad for reason X, and now it’s just being confirmed: we were right and you were wrong, Chip.’
The Hicks pick is more like – ‘we told you this was going to turn out bad because we didn’t need an ILB, and now … oh wait, we do need an ILB. Good thinking on that one, Chip.’
Now, the fact that ILB is a need due to xeynon’s point 4 – ‘we said that you couldn’t rely on guys with injury histories’….
Hicks is fine. I’m not saying he was unworthy of a third round pick.
However, the draft is all about tradeoffs and opportunity cost. If we hadn’t picked him and had instead taken somebody like T.J. Clemmings, we’d still have a serviceable player in Goode taking over for the injured Kendricks and Alonso. The difference is we’d have a viable alternative to the hot garbage we have starting at G right now as well. That’s a better situation.
very well said, only exception is murray. we overpaid him for sure but no RB in the history of league can be productive the way the O line blocked, letting defenders 10 yards in the backfield right after murray gets the football.
The problem with blocking at the second level is when the first level guys are unblocked
This is funny but it’s exactly what it looks like… Everybody is in so much of a hurry to get to the “2nd level” that they don’t block anybody when the ball is snapped.
The Hicks pick looks like Chip knew Alonso and kendricks were gonna get hurt, lol
Only because you write like a thoughtful individual am I nodding my head in agreement rather than banging it on my desk.
I think Chip is operating under a bigger window of time frame, mentality. He must know all these moves could yield results…in 3-5 seasons down the road. But this is the NFL, not for long Chip. People wanna win now and we could but Chip is an over believer in his system and approach. He’s too set in his approach and he could use a more versatile Bruce Lee-esque offense which is like water which takes many forms.
Give it up Tommy. Rams won the trade not only because of Foles but the 2nd round pick. Chip Kelly moves were bad; a laundry list of sophmoric decisions that led to these results. Chip Kelly the genius is dead
If we kept Foles, Mathis, and Herremans, we would be 2-0 right now.
The question is whether we would be any better than a 10 win team with no chance of beating GB or SEA. If you want to be great, you have to take risks, maybe it won’t work.
I do admire Chip for taking the risks.
Chip Kelly is playing with house money because even if he fails in Philly he’ll still will have plenty of coaching opportunitities in college and probably the pros. So ask yourself what risk is he actually taking?
Every coach has these opportunities. Norv Turner is still an OC in the league.
I don’t buy the house money theory. These guys are all egotistical. They work 16 hours a day to prevent failure.
He’s right though that if Kelly wants to slink away after this season & go back to college he’ll have this pick of jobs ala Saban.
Pity the poor reporter too who cover the Tide and ever asks Saban about his days in the NFL too.
Not this meme again… I mean it may be true, but what’s the point of bringing it up over and over again?
and his money is guaranteed
I understand that argument, but it can’t be treated that simply. If you take the risk and they backfire, you don’t get to shrug it off and simply say, “well I tried something and it didn’t work.” There are consequences to taking a risk and those risks backfiring.
It still is early and all this could be is what many predicted as us coming out slowly to begin the season with so many new starters. So while this is awful right now, there is still time for things to turn around. With that said, even with a slow start, I don’t think anyone predicted this bad of a start. The fact that the risks Chip took have backfired THIS badly early on is a very bad indication of the outcomes of those moves.
This is today’s NFL. Pete Carroll started a rookie QB over the FA with the big contract. GB got rid of Farve to play an unproven Aaron Rodgers. Risk is part of the equation for every great coach.
I won’t fault Chip for taking risks but I will hold him accountable.
And let’s be honest, Chip gave no indication that he thought the pre-season was fools gold.
You realize that Foles lost today right? No way you can predict what would have happened
Just saying that last year’s group would probably won this game 21-17 with penalties and turnovers, leaving the fanbase wonder how good this 2-0 team is.
I think that is a bad assumption.
Trading those players and starting a 38 year old financial accountant who hadn’t played football since high school at QB, a converted weightlifter at LG, and the first retired sumo wrestler to ever play in the NFL at RG would have also been risks. Doesn’t mean they wouldn’t have been really dumb moves.
Bradford you can maybe make a case was a good risk. I’m skeptical (I tend to think that after 5 years in the NFL a guy is what he is), but I’m willing to hear the argument. But Gardner and Barbre? They have never been good players, and they don’t gave the physical ability to be good players. Those were moves with plenty of risk and no upside, i.e. bad risks.
This is ridiculous. How many balls clanked off receivers hands today? I remember at least 6. It’s pretty hard to develop a rhythm when you’re always 3 and out.
Herremans is done. I miss Evan too but if a guy wants money more than the team then you let him go.
While the dropped passes certainly didn’t help, they were not the deciding factor in today’s game… Not even close
It may be that SB is causing the drops by lack of touch. This has been reported on Ram’s blogs.
That is crap. At least 4 of them were perfectly thrown balls that every NFL receiver should catch. Those 4 were all downfield as well. Probably 80 yds offense and continued drives. The one ertz missed was an interception.
there were a lot of drops in seattle, but how do you explan 21/25 in falcons game, and pre-season
Pre-season threw me big-time. It’s the only thing stopping me from saying all this $hit was predictable.
think eagle got played soft, but it’s clear how to beat IZ, there’s NO read option now and we don’t have guy that can just beat coverage.
It hits your hands you catch it. Nobody throws hard enough for that to be a valid excuse.
it wasn’t foles for bradford, bc bradford is the better player. it’s the 2nd rounder that is baffling. plus bradford’s contract is killer huge
What has Bradford shown that makes him better? He is playing about the same or worse than other qbs that have played under chip in Philly. It’s not all Bradford’s fault but for what the team gave up for him its pretty depressing.
bradford doesn’t have the O line foles did and he doesn’t have the deep threat WR to stretch the defense (djax) that foles did
Actually, when Foles struggled last year – prior to his injury- he had a worse offensive line. And he performed better. Not well, but better than this guy. I don’t think foles is markedly better than bradford. However, when you factor in the 2nd rounder and the mess that Bradford is, we got fleeced.
Seriously… On what basis do you make the claim that Sam Bradford is a better player than Nick Foles? Foles’ statistics are way better. His winning percentage is way better. His entire track record is way better. Yes, he’s akward and ungainly and may lack the natural talent to ever be a top notch NFL QB. But the NFL is a results based business and his results, both under Chip Kelly and otherwise, are way better than Sam Bradford’s despite the latter’s better natural tools. At some point potential has to translate into performance and it never has for Sam Bradford. Foles has a lower ceiling but had reached it much more consistently.
bradford has not played with the same weapons or protection foles did during the half season where he was good
Foles in 2012 and last season when he wasn’t great was still better than Bradford’s career averages. And while it’s a small sample size Foles this season in St. Louis has been better than Bradford was in St. Louis, with the same limited weaponry.
If you’re going to make a statement like “Bradford is better than Foles” there should be at least one shred of evidence to back it up. There isn’t, just rationalizations for why the rather significant pile of evidence to the contrary doesn’t really mean what it appears to mean.
Bradford is a real QB. Foles is not.
When you have a guy like Foles…you’re dependent on the other team to let Foles play the way he does best. When that D does not be so compliant, Foles will lose you the game.
Full
Stop.
Foles is dependent on the defense. Bradford can lose no matter what the defense does!
uh, huh…
Foles will get one of his patented rainbow deeps, and then fuck the QB position all over the place, given our offensive play in general.
Again.. This is assertion, not evidence.
I don’t think Foles is anything great. I’m inclined to agree that his lack of physical tools will prevent him from ever being more than a middling NFL starter.
The problem is, despite all this talk of Bradford being a “real QB”, “arm talent”, etc., in 5+ seasons he has never been even that. “Middling starter” would be a step up for him. Doubts about whether he lacks the intellectual and psychological characteristics to be an elite QB are just as well founded as doubts about whether Foles lacks the physical characteristics.
Saying “full stop” doesn’t win you an argument when you have no evidence to back it up any more than saying “I win this one” wins you a poker hand when you don’t have the cards to back it up.
/me rolls eyes.
Eye rolling is an even weaker rejoinder than saying “full stop”.
As usual when you get into an argument, you lose.
Yep, people get too excited by SB’s pedigree and pretty throws. Foles doesn’t have that, but he is still effective. SB has not shown himself to be an effective NFL QB to this point.
Neither Bradford nor Foles were or are expected to block for the run game.
money is nothing to chip. that always baffled me.
I’m not giving up on 9/20. I’m going to watch next week against the Jets, hope for a win, then hope they can go to Washington and win. Fuck, I’m supposed to enjoy football during the Halloween Thanksgiving Xmas season, we are a month away from Halloween. NOOOOOO!!! Fuck this. Remember the 04 team had everything wrapped up by Thanksgiving? Ahh the memories.
Memories . . . light the corners of my mind.
Misty water-colored memories . . . of the way we were.
hey, how about the corners on the field.
At first I thought you were going Elvis, then you threw a curve ball with Streisand. Still a good song.
Yeah. I can see not having interest in watching this team in say Dec if it turns out to disastrous year (4-12/5-11). It is 2 games in a division where you just need to be the tallest midget at the end of the season.
If the Boys go better than .500 with Weeden at QB, then Garrett is a much better coach than I give him credit for.
Well, if they can keep playing the Eagles…
Today was terrible. I’m still pissed off.
The lack of a run game had nothing to do with Murray and Mathews. Out scheme was just dead wrong for whatever Dallas was doing. That’s on Chip and I expect next week to be totally different.
Our d-line was dominant. That was a huge positive.
What the hell happened to our receivers though? If there was any part of the team that owned this loss it was them. Jordan dropped two. Riley dropped two (glad he dropped one of them though). Ertz had one clank off his hands for a pick. It goes on and on.
Heath Evans was right.
randle was right
Eaglesfanqq was right
Longdong was right…
where is Geagle?
Shady was right
seriously what about maxwell? he’s playing soft as shit and getting burned by nobodys. this is fletcher/williams all over again. how many times are you going to get beat before you realize you don’t have the talent to put your corners on islands.
I’m with you…but…the personnel has changed and yet now we still have one common denominator…Billy Davis. How many times has he talked about this being a “press man” defense, and yet the guys are playing way off in a soft zone. Like seriously, WTF?!
spoiled for so long. taylor, vincent, samuel, sheppard, brown. i remember when we had good corners
I think you’ve picked a good nickname for the Eagles secondary,” The WTF D.”
its kinda hilarious Billy Davis is hell bent on using his corners like they are all Revis. Then in the offseason when Revis is actually available their like “nah we’ll just throw a dump truck of cash at this other guy who might not even be good.”
2015 NFC East = 2014 NFC South
we can only hope
I want 9-7 at least if we’re going to the playoffs,even though that sounds like an lol at this point, but anyways, I don’t want to be a 7-9 team and make the playoffs, that’s lame. If a division winner wins a division with less than a .500 year they should disqualify them and go to the next team in line out of the division.
To me, the bigger concern with making the playoffs at 7-9, or even 8-8 simply because you back in is the loss of draft position. Backing in with that weak of a record can be a significant swing in draft position and when the reality is you aren’t going to get anywhere in the playoffs, it is just better to miss it all together.
giant won sbs sneaking into playoffs
Giants went 10-6 in 2007. They were a wild card team, but they didn’t back into the playoffs. In 2011, the were 9-7 and won the division. That was a weaker team, but they also were 6-2 to begin the season, so they didn’t really sneak in. They just did enough to stay in.
Crushed this week in my picks too. TB won in New Orleans for the first time in a long time and knocked me out of my suicide pool already. Miami laid an egg in Jacksonville and Baltimore lost in Oakland.
I was feeling really smart about avoiding New Orleans when half of my suicide pool went out. Then, Baltimore lost to Oakland and out I went also!
Seems so easy and each year I am knocked out so early.
Earliest I have ever been knocked out and we have run this pool since ’01
I took Eagles against chargers in week 2 couple of years ago. I had mapped out the first 15 weeks.
Parody and the early part of the season crazy things happen that knock tons of people out early.
Parody? – Like what we watched today was a parody of a football game? Not very funny though.
Parity haha.. I did the same thing last week on a blog with scalding and scolding, always type those two words wrong. It was scolding hot!! I was yelling at the fucking heat!
Actually someone should make a parody of the Eagles’ fight song right now.
My buddy has a survivor pool with 80 people
After Today ….7 are left
Seriously? That’s incredible
Tampa bay knocked me out too. It’s called Last Man Standing pool for WIP now because I guess suicide is too touchy.
Well.
The good.
We ruined Dallas in one shot. Defense looked awesome.
The bad
Receivers had a bad bad bad day. OL had a bad bad bad day.
The ugly.
kiko.
How did the defense look awesome? Dallas had penalty after penalty on offense today, was incredibly conservative, and lost one of the best QBs in the NFL.
They made a few big plays to give them a shot to win but also gave up a few big plays, missed their share of tackles, and I thought benefited more from a depleted Boys team taking their foot off the peddle.
Well, they had a few penalties as a result of dealing with the defense. But. You have to look at a defense that was on the field so much and only allowed 1 TD and two FGs and say damn good. And they knocked out the opposing starter at QB.
to be more specific about the D:
the good
the front 7 looked awesome rushing passer, safetys seemed solid
the bad
LB pass coverage not so much.
the ugly
cornerbacks were a disaster.
the really ugly
maxwell
So far, pretty much all of Chips’ offseason moves are looking bad. Does Lurie have the patience to give him another offseason to fix what he broke, or does that depend on how far from .500 we end up?
and chip doesn’t f in care because his contract is guaranteed ..this is even better for him to get paid in full and get back to the little boys he likes
The optimistic view is the offensive line still needs time to gel; the realistic view is that it is devoid of talent and size. Peters is not who he once was. Kelce is smart and athletic but too small, especially in short yardage situations (short yardage has been a big problem since he as been the starter). Barbre and Gardner are too small, especially having to anchor Kelce, and not very talented. At least Lane Johnson is still young. Scheme cannot compensate for a severe lack of talent, which is the o-line’s biggest problem. Additionally, there is no young o-line talent on the roster to develop (Tobin, at 290 lbs, is lighter than all the starters). This unit will not get much better as the year progresses because it lacks the potential to do so. It may not play as badly as today, but it will continue to be a weakness.
The young receivers at least have that excuse, they are young.
Bradford looked befuddled. Not how you want your leader to react when under hardship. Maybe it is rust, maybe anyone playing behind that line would react the same way or maybe Bradford is what he has always been – a million dollar talent with a fifty dollar head.
It is a shame about about Kiko Alonso. Well, I guess the Jordan Hicks pick may have been a good pick after all.
i don’t care if who you want is off the board, there is no excuse drafting 0 OLmen in two years
Agree with Barrett Brooks:
‘You need athletes to run those stretch zone run plays to the outside and the Eagles don’t have them at G’
“Scheme cannot compensate for a severe lack of talent, which is the o-line’s biggest problem.”
What if the scheme itself is the problem?
From what I saw, the oline was just missing their assignments. Kelce was letting people run by on the first level to try to get to the second on a few plays and just let his guy go. That may have been by design and the G was supposed to pick him up but I sort of doubt it. Entire interior oline looks clueless, not talentless.
13 carries, 2 yards.
Stat is all you need to know about this game and you would guess the Eagles lost today.
hey at least they got out of the negative!
I don’t know, I still like Chip a lot, but it seems so far that he underestimated the value of the O line in his calculations. Jettisoning Mathis seems baffling now.
DeMarco has been first contacted at or behind line of scrimmage on 10 of his 21 rushes this season.
That is awful.
Preseason is when you can play the Yeah Yeah Yeahs’ ‘Heads Will Roll’ during practice and get a good laugh out of it.
“In all seriousness I expected Chip to adapt more this year, but he’s running same O as 2014 and preseason.”
Thats the play look at 62 ive yard back. Sick Never saw an offensive lineman get that hrown back
THERE IS NO OFFENSIVE LINE! FUKC YOU CHIP KELLY WHERE IS EVAN MATHIS!!!!
After looking at this a few times. That looks to be Gardner who misses his guy who blows Kelce up pulling. And Barbre probably should have blocked Lee, but that isn’t his assignment and he is expecting Kelce to be their for the that block.
This reminds me of 2003
Then we went to New York in week 3
Would love to share your optimism, but no. Not even remotely close. That Eagles team had veteran leadership and were just better overall (coaching, players, etc.)
We’re gonna find out what kind of leader Chip is, and if he’s lost the locker room (and yes, I really think it’s that serious – there was a lot of questionable effort out there today).
I agree with this – this could get real bad fast. Not saying it will, but I think the potential is there
It’s really hard to project how we get from here to there… I mean, there’s so little that’s going well right now that you can’t envision fixing 1 or 2 things and the team suddenly being ‘good’ again.
I don’t understand Chip’s stubbornness and refusal to adapt. Why oh why are we calling 2 straight pass plays out of shotgun formation when we have a 1st and goal at the 3 yard line. Why can’t we ever run under center? Why can’t we put in a fullback like Trey Burton? Do SOMETHING different bc the same old tired formula is obviously not working.
And alter the QB’s cadence, for crying out loud
we ran under center a few times, didnt work. Chris Brown saying we’re running exact scheme we’ve run for 2 years and people have figured it out
That’s BS. People should’ve “figured out” what we were doing after the first few games in Chip’s first season. There’s nothing complicated about it. Difference between now & then is we were able to execute properly before. Now we can’t execute a damn thing. We don’t have the talent.
What baffles me so much is why didn’t the coaches see this coming? How could their evaluation of their own players be so off? Chip’s been in the league for years now, he has no excuse. Why weren’t these guys exposed more during the preseason? I get that it’s preseason yada yada yada, but the players are still trying on a small percentage of plays.
Sometimes as my old boss said you believe that your farts smell good if enough people around you tell you so.
See how things play out including adjustments they make but it might be a case of where Kelly thought his scheme does triumphed talent too much.
That is what I am afraid of and certainly what it looks like. Bad guards just doesn’t seem like enough of an explanation for how bad the running game is.
I actually feel he relies on the run too much. Teams continually stack the box and yet chip just stubbornly runs straight into the teeth of the defense. I feel we need to pass more on early downs and take some shots down the field. If we make defenses pay for stacking the box it will open up things in the running game. When we keep teams guessing this offense works best.
I understand the urge the run in the redzone and dont disagree, but in general we need to open things up and challenge teams with more vertical plays.
Well, I definitely agree with you that we need to stretch the field more. At some point Bradford’s got to pull the trigger and throw the deep ball. Those screens and short underneath crosses simply won’t cut it.
we suck
thanks chip.. thanks fat andy…thanks rick kotite.
if it weerent for Donovan McNab and Brian Dawkins and Jeremiah Trotter and TO and Buddy Ryan ..we wudve sucked forever
why fat andy? Andy gave us so many players and chip pissed em down the drain.
fat ay snubbed us I every press conference as if we were the stupid ones.
he hates lineackers an recivers and still called 50 pass plays a game ..
forced us to wtch him in the lamest last 2 minutesof any super owl ever
his win/loss % is about equal to Kotite
he gave us 2of thebiggestassssholes to ever live in phil ..his sons
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he let Dawk walk
he let Trotter o because he wouldn’t pay hm
he cost a season becase he wouldn’t pay TO and he knws best
..
h wa GM and Coach because he wanted the money yet he couldn’t handit
oh and also win/loss pct
kotite win/los .563
fat andy’s .. .583
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You are an idiot.
Obviously.
But when 2 f in basis points are the difference btw worst and greatest coaches ever im not alone.
Just the only one not getting rich off the franchise
Chip did i agree w that. I hate andy for letting Trotter go over money. TO cost us a sesaon over money. Dawk walks over money. All shit GM calls and he paid himself tops
I have no problem with any of those noves. Trotter went for big money and came back for cheap after he was cut. Dawkins was never that good in Denver. TO was a total whacko. .
ahh, ok ill admit it .. I used to buy heroin from his sons and they were really good at selling it
Total asshole.
rodgers getting huge plays on offsides call. takes the free plays and chucks it down field, lets SEA beat itself
I swear I must’ve woken up in a football vortex. The Eagles going up in a dumpster fire week 2. Even Seattle looks like crap. WTF is going on?
seattle hemorrhaging talent
The next time Maxwell does something worth $60mil will be the first.
he forced a big fumble in that game, but is also always in single coverage and he can’t beat guys on in breaking routes w/ no safety help
Forced is stretching it. He was late to the play after giving up a first down and Escobar dropped the ball the moment he made contact.
It was good technique to take advantage of a player’s mistake. In the end nobody ever forces a fumble without the offensive player being at fault.
False. Dawkins FORCED fumbles regularly. Maxwell sucks two straight weeks and a guy accidentally drops the ball for no reason and suddenly were singing his praises for good technique.
I’m not singing his praises.
The person with the ball has the advantage when it comes to ending the play with it, that’s all.
He did but it I didn’t think he was that much better. He had several weak plays this week including the bomb to Williams.
Williams just rant by him despite him playing more than five yards off the line of scrimmage.
You’re absolutely right.
Seems like the defense was designed specifically with the idea that he could defend the post pattern one on one in mind. If he could that’s worth $60mil. If he can’t. He’s Cary Williams and he’s worth about $5-6mil a year not $10-12mil.
Maybe we should have kept the old secondary, spent the money on OL, and gotten a different D-coordinator.
I’d rather have half the money spent on RBs and double up on G spending. The allocation of resources looks absurd so far.
Told you they SUCK
CHIP KELLY FUKCING SUCKS. THAT OFFENSIVE LINE IS LIKE AN OLD WOMAN’S CUNT! OLD AND USED UP!!!
#hottakes
The only old player is Peters. Need better analogies and a bit more tasteful.
The oline is total dog shit
Have no idea what that’s like, but we appreciate the autobiography.
Lack of run game and terrible guard play should be expected. No way you can replace two longtime starters with third stringers and expect good results. Just poor planning.
Here’s a silver lining: It’s really refreshing not screaming “Damn it Nate Allen!” every other play.
Yea it was replaced by
Damn it Maxwell!
Damn it Ryans!
Roddy White held without a catch against the Giants. We made him look like an all pro. Not trying to go out of my way to be an antagonist but our pass defense is terrible. We spent a huge sum of cap space on RBs and have a terrible offensive line blocking for them which competely negates the advantage of having awesome RBs. Our WR play is atrocious despot spending multiple top picks on the position. Our QB play sucks despite trading a huge amount of resources for Bradford. And our $60mil corner looks no better than Cary Williams. So far (not saying it can’t change…but, so far) Chip the GM looks like Josh McDaniels the GM.
Lurie has this desire to turn over the keys to one individual and hope he leads to this franchise to glory.
It was a disaster when he turned over the reigns to Rhodes after 2 years. Reid was named the GM after 2 years too and had a mixed track record as the GM. We’ll see how things turn out but the Eagles won’t be able to scapegoat Davis and the defense if the Eagles’ offense & Bradford sputter so badly.
Billy “I’m gonna play my corners 1-on-1 even if they do suck” Davis is terrible.
Brady eviscerates the Bills yet again and moves 24-3 vs the Bills in his career.
Doing things at 38 that are just amazing. Jordan came back at 38 and was just a slightly above average player. Tiger Woods was 38 last year and largely irrevelant.
If the Pats somehow win another NFL Super Bowl, he has to be the discussion of greatest athletes ever even if he generates so much loathing.
I’ve lost all respect for Tom Brady… And if it turned out he was taking PEDs, would anyone be surprised?
I would be more surprised if he wasn’t taking PEDs.
Me as well, but it’s impossible to ignore what he has managed to do on the field. His work ethic is second to none. What drives me most nuts is that, despite the obvious talents, him and Bill STILL feel the need to try and gain added advantage — rules be damned.
College football fans..any great Qb prospects in the draft next year? Last time we had a top 5 pick it was probably worst QB class in recent history.
is chip kelly drafting? If so it doesnt matter
Jared Goff from Cal.
But we aren’t picking top 5.
So, is this team really just not very talented?
Their offensive line is dog shit. I saw the guard get blown up off the offsenvie line in the first quarter 5 yards back. literal. THe right guard
I thought we were overrated for awhile now.
you throw Desean Jackson in the river. You throw Lesean MCCoy on the slave boat. You le Jeremy Maclin go and what do you wind up with. Let alone the ofensive line. THIS TEAM IS DOG SHIT LIKE I FUKCING SAID FROM DAY 1!! ENJOY THE PRESEASON LOMBARDI TROPHIES!!!!
I know I shouldn’t be responding, but the line about the Pre-Season Lombardi is actually pretty funny. I honestly never heard that one before.
Let’s hear more of this slave boat you speak of!!
LeSean McCoy signed a 5 year, $40,000,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $13,125,000 signing bonus, $26,500,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,000,000.
I would definitely take last years team back
Fair enough desire, but hindsight is 20/20. I’ll admit I was likely a bit overly optimistic on all the changes BUT we’re only two games into the season. I don’t think all moves were bad….our O-LINE seems to be the biggest issue right now and I don’t know if Mathis alone makes it any better.
Mathis and herremans MAKE it better
You are by far the most annoying person in these comments. All of us are frustrated but most of us expect people on this blog to be a higher class of fan articulate themselves better than a whiny teenage girl throwing a tantrum. You can easily vent and complain about the team without these childish rants.
I told you. I am salt you are the wound. Suck it up you bitchass motther fukcer
Dnt respond to him. He is a troll, in all seriousness.
Assume s/he is a skins/cowboys/giants fan.
These past two games have been prime time, the Eagles have been embarassed two weeks in a row before a national audience.
Last week they weren’t embarrassed since they rebounded at half.
They were today on a day of just ugly football by both teams.
I guess you could be right, my thinking is they have played so maddeningly far below expectations and their seeming potential.
Mariota had another decent game today too.
it was ugly until garbage time
Yep.
Really? I got a text said he played well. Oh well.
decent stat line in the end but didn’t do much until 4th quarter.
Tommy,
I totally disagree. This team has no imagination and is very boiler plate. How many times did we see, and like many of us knew, that a sweep was going to be called or check downs look like standard plays.
Our playing calling on offense and to a lesser extent, defense, looked exactly like week 1. It almost looks like we don’t plan for the team we are playing. Chip obviously feels that his system will work and to hell with the opossing team.
I must say, as a fan since the late 70’s, it’s hard for me to come to terms on how suddenly I feel so indifferent to this season.
I couldn’t find a reason why Rowe is just so bad..but then I realized he’s probably being mentored by Maxwell. Ouch.
Just a guy playing out of position. Still want to know who drafted MS2 last year although they tagged Roseman with that when he got demoted this offseason.
Last year’s draft isn’t looking so hot.
MS2 looking at lot like Rowe.
DeMarco Murray is on pace to rush for 88 yards this season, which is just slightly behind his 1,845-yard pace last season.
Nearly sunk by my fantasy team today. Saved by Fitzergald.
i decided to have Bradford / matthews / sproles tandem in a couple of my leagues.
Time to call it a year then
yup
I started Bridgewater today. One of my few good calls.
Trade kiko for leseaan McCoy
“He just got inside of me. We were on the field all day, he got inside of me, I couldn’t really explode.
“I didn’t feel tired, I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t get to him.”
“You’re a human being, you get tired as the game goes on,” Maxwell said. “That’s how it goes.”
Maxwell isn’t doing himself any favors with his tone deaf comments to the media.
He’s Chip’s $60M recruit… Can pretty much say whatever he wants.
I think there’s a real risk that Chip loses this locker room if they don’t turn it around soon… Not good to have a guy like Maxwell speaking out like this so early in the campaign. Lots of things to be concerned about right now..
Howie was probably eating a big wagyu beef steak with truffle butter and grinning this whole game.
Okay, this is totally piling on. This loss is on Chip, he’s the captain. But Bradford is probably part of the problem. I went to a Ram’s blog and cut and pasted some of the comments (to be fair, there were some that defended SB, too).
“In the first half, Bradford led the Eagles’ offense to just 21 total yards. That’s the lowest total in the first half by an NFL team since Bradford did it with the St. Louis Rams in 2013.”
“Any doubt that Bradford only has a fastball and has no touch after that last INT?”
“The INT was more on Bradford than the WR. How many times do we have to see that before we admit “Bradford has nothing but a fastball”. He has no feel.
“I told y’all Bradford sucks. We’ll be fine. Our defense is legit.”
“This reminds me a ton of 2013 where we couldn’t run the ball and teams were forcing Bradford to try and beat them. He NEEDS to be more aggressive down the field, but jmo.”
“Teams are just going to stop the running game with Bradford at QB. Bradford just throws too many check downs and doesn’t take any shots.”
“Sam just doesn’t go through his reads”
“Bradford looks terrible, and I’m not surprised. I just giggled when Aikman talked about accuracy…………Bradford isn’t accurate.”
“Bradford sucks but the fumble has to be given to somebody so unfortunately it’s his. Bradford brings bad mojo to his team and I’m glad he’s gone”
“His body language rubs the team the wrong way, and I truly believe he lacks leadership skills. I’m really happy he’s gone.””
Not to disagree with anything you said or pasted here, but please peruse the same blogs and C&P the stuff re: Foles. For me, this is a bit like politics … we’ve gambled on the perceived lesser of two evils. So far, not so good.
I just went through the Eagles/Cowboys thread. Like I said, there were a few people defending SB. Also, some people were complaining about Foles. I am sure if we went to the gamethread for the Rams, they would be bitching big time.
More to the point, if they came here, they would quickly get a rundown on Foles’ weaknesses. The negatives from the Rams’ blog seems to jibe with what we are seeing so far here. SB has been involved in the 2 worst 1st halves since 2013!
if either of these QBs were flawless they wouldnt have been traded
Sure .. no one’s flawless; except maybe “Tom Terrific” (gross). But honestly .. I was digging the trade, minus the 2nd rounder. C’mon, after 2014 season, did you really think Foles was the answer? No. Did we like him as a person? Sure. But it was a good change of scenery for both … and even Chip acknowledged that Sam may not be the answer. I’m paraphrasing, but something to the effect of, “We’ll keep trying ’til we get it right [as it pertains to QB].” He can’t be pleased with ANYONE. Caveat — Defense looked, for the most part, excellent.
But we knew this when we got him (why are we surprised now?). I used this analogy here before, when you’re trying to rebuild a QB that’s been in the league for so long you’re working with a mountain instead of a mold of clay.
Watching Cary Williams with an untimely penalty makes me feel just a little better lol
And he just gave up a td with back turned!
Fletcher stunk again today in the Pats-Bills game again too giving up a huge pass inference play which set up a TD and got burnt for another.
Fletcher was always the worse of the 2.
I wonder what it would be like to have a top 3 qb in the league
little depressing we’ve run through a lot of qbs over the years
Should prob get Jeff Garcia on the horn
Just watching russell and rodgers here and thinking the same thing…
Im gonna start watching draftbreakdown tapes of upcoming qbs. Ill let you guys know what I find. Kinda wish we had Teddy B right about now or even Garret Grayson. Really starting to dislike the Smith pick with each game he is inactive showing nothing because we need some pass rush.
Can you check out coaches while you’re at it?
I heard Jared Goff from Cal is supposed to be good.
Goff is a stud.
Hate Cardale
Cook doesn’t do it for me, he’ll go high because he plays in a pro style but that O makes guys look better than they are. Here’s who people comped him to, it’s not a ringing endorsement:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000524504/article/ask-5-whats-best-player-comp-for-msu-qb-connor-cook
Big Gunner Kiel fan, but he needs another year in school to clean things up.
Hack? HAHAHAHAHAH
Kessler is run of the mill WCO QB. He and Hogan are both probably career backups.
I’m not terribly familiar with the guys after that. I didn’t do my normal summer tape work and this fall it’s either catch up on tape or figure out data analysis/modeling and graduate.
Greyson Lambert looked good against the Gamecocks.
Nick Foles’ 27-2 campaign was the worst thing that has happened to this franchise in the last 5 years.
We should have been in the QB market after that year and we should have drafted Teddy Bridgewater.
UGH.
The said part is, we still could have 🙁
From the Boston Globe:
“Brady and Josh McDaniels had the perfect game plan to neutralize the
Bills’ zone blitzes and stout defensive line. Brady threw the ball 59
times and got the ball out of his hands quickly, like he did against the
Ravens in the playoffs last year. Amazingly, Brady was sacked just
twice all game, and one was a self-sack in which he slid to the ground
for no gain. Brady also smartly threw the ball into the dirt whenever
pressure arrived. He threw for 466 yards, and easily could’ve had 500 if
not for a few drops and slight overthrows.”
Contrast that to the Eagles game plan today.
Kinda questioning this culture thing too. I dont think we want a bunch of murderers and rapists but Marcus Peters may have been a nice snag.
Peters was gone.
Just an example, my friend.
He wasn’t an example of a player you could snag at 20.
I dont remember saying explicitly, the player had to be selected at 20.
I think we would be better if we had snagged Amari Cooper.
Why stop there? Mariota would have been within a stones throw!
Then you’re just throwing shit at the wall I guess since you didn’t say how they should have gotten Peters.
I didnt realize I had to. Im sorry for failing your criteria. Perhaps a 4/5th would have been enough to trade up 2 spots? Maybe a 4th from this years draft. Perhaps Boykin?
I still don’t like the fact that we skipped out on Byron Jones.
Another good option. Im sure Agholor will be fine but our WR corps did us no favora today.
everyone is really young, no vets so it’s going to be hard relying on those guys.
I only wanted 2 things from Chip.
1. A power running game
2. A WR that comes down with the ball regardless of coverage (like Kevin White/Dez)
He hasn’t really delivered on either so far..sigh.
yeah he’s def coming at the game a different way, but not sure it’s the right way
Jones is high character player, nothing like Peters.
Yes, i know, thank you.
Your point was getting low character players.
I didnt say “low character” which depends on the definition and according to mine, i dont think he was a murderer or rapist.
he wouldn’t hve solved any of our problems.
Jacorey Sheppherd would have solved them ALL though.
I doubt it.
Poking a bit of fun at the people who thought the loss of Shep single handedly ruined our season.
Wait people thought that? Man people should stop posting highlights of players it really is doing more harm than good.
He might not have but he at least can cover.
I agree we need some edge had that in McCoy and desean” The Seahawks have a guy who goes to children hospitals every Tuesday, and prob a few guys that have done some really unsavory things as well.
Bradford was not good, but the Cowboys & Falcons got the penetration needed to shut down a zone running game and made us a one dimensional team,. when an offense predicated on options has none, they have already lost. It is tough to pin too much blame on the players, when the scheme just isn’t working.
a little saddened today by sammy b’s inability to read zone coverage.
D played well enough i suppose. O, wow, ugly. Bow all I have is Japanese beer…
Oops now.
Maybe Sam Bradford should go on the radio and tell us to R-E-L-A-X
SEA 0-2
Jimmy Graham trade is looking pretty bad for them.
yeah though saints don’t look good either so maybe it’s just a wash. saints will have to drop some players again next season.
To be honest I did think we would start the season 0-2. The thing I hate the most is how poorly the O-line has been struggling, and that scares me going into the jets game. The NFCE this year might be last year’s version of the NFCS
Our D did an admirable enough job. Obviously the O is a mess right now. But it bugs the hell out of me to see underneath completions happen and having to wait for someone to come from off screen to tackle (or not) for an easy 8 or so yards. Flip the side over to our O. Checked down all night, and the check downs were smothered.
That O-line is abysmal. It needs help. Can’the even get positive yards, let alone make a hole. The sky is falling, football is stupid, I’m going to go be a jerk to the people I care about.Goodnight.
Chris Brown (Smart Football) wrote today that the offense is exactly the same as last year. That Kelly hasn’t migrated it at all. I wonder if Chip thought that with better fitting pieces, the offense will excel. But what he’s found is that opposing DCs have stunted and penetrated their way into totally short-circuting his offense.
I don’t know if Tommy watches scheme, particularly Chip’s, but I’d love to hear from others on this….
Everyone is quoting this Chris Brown dude… Does he know what he’s talking about?
He did beat Rihanna that one time…
He has two books out, one called The Essential Smart Football which is a very good book, and the other called The Art of Smart Football which came out recently but I haven’t read yet. Based on his book, he seems to really know what he is talking about, and personally I trust him more than most on terms of Xs and Os. Obviously, others may have different opinions, but everywhere I’ve looked seems to agree he unfortunately does know what he is talking about.
He can probably dance and sing pretty good?
Yes. Chris arguably the leading X’s and O’s guru.
http://smartfootball.com/#sthash.n6cPMoCm.dpbs
http://grantland.com/contributors/chris-b-brown/
tommy whether we finish 6 and 10 or 2 and 14 or 10 and 6 chip has left a ton of holes and dead money bloated contracts. he scared off 2 good offensive linemen. rather than letting them play out their deal or near the end of it and then drafting replacements he has opted to spend money on quick fixes. that is the case at RB, O line, QB and secondary. i want them all gone next year. if we go 0 and 3 i dont care the outcome im boycotting the season. andy reid for all his faults was always a player coach who took crap from the players and shouldered the load himself. look at how good his team looks in KC right now. yes they need a QB but his defense flies and his team plays hard every day for him. theres an emotion that i saw in the AR era that in the chip kelly era seems like cockiness. i am sad to share the same last name with chip. when we were going through candidates i was one of the few who hoped we were more serious for his brother Brian Kelly. Why? cuz ND has played lights out defense the last few years. even when they arent statistically good they play hard. Lurie never wanted Chip to win a title. he wanted a coach to create flash and buzz and fill the stadium. shame on lurie. shame on all of you! matter of fact, ill see everyone in the 2016 offseason. this post is making me choke on the pepperonis of my pizza dinner.
Howie does the comtract and im sure 90% of them are team friendly, except Coopers. I dont think Herremans was “good” however he may have been better than the slop out there now. Mathis is Mathis and wanted more money but got less. Not sure if that is Chips fault or not. The Ealges didnt spend crap on OL and that is part of the reason we are in this pickle. I dont think Murray is a quick fix. He was the leading rusher last year. As far as secondary we drafted 2 seemingly good players of the future. As far as qb goes, meh, a quick fix was as good as any I suppose.
yeah what are you supposed to do really, obviously guard should have been a bigger priority but they must have liked what they’ve seen last year. Reality is we haven’t had a good run game in almost 8 games, where we really looked dominant. CK proably though backup guys could grow and be decent starters — i think we missed out in draft and FA.
We’ll see next wee how good a coach CK is.
Im still a firm believer in the trenches. We are good on one side and not the other. I really would have liked to see some OL taken somewhere.
Interior linemen can’t run block for shit. That was the biggest miscalculation IMO. Chip wanted to bring in line banging RBs, but the line has no openings. These guys aren’t Moses.
But even a semi serviceable qb could have mustered more than that. Sure big picture may not matter until they find right guy there
the one thing that no one is talking about is how poor of a leader bradford is. He was seriously considering retiring after his knee injury. it made me think to myself why Chip didnt consider that more heavily when the trade was going on. He has a quitters mentality to be honest and its nauseating. i dont care if he goes on a world record tear. the guy is a quitter. i understand the injury part but damn Sam your 27 not 37. Foles had better leadership, he had moxy. Chip decided to go with the tangible more than intangible. its going to bite him in the ass and its going to cost him his job. McCoy for all his faults was a better fit than DeMarco. he has vision that muray doesnt. and its going to be a bitter pill to swallow to eat the contracts of Murray, Bradford, and Barbre. Chip Kelly is going to be shitcanned and he utterly deserves it. shame on Lurie. he really thought that an offensive minded coach was the way to go…even when the team stunk they could score. offense was never the issue, it was always getting off the field that did us in. now we have been set back about 2 or 3 years at least!
He tore his ACL twice and is still in the NFL despite already getting paid and playimg for the Rams. Hes not a quitter.
I’d suck it up for 13 million too.
speaking of money, god i remember when we had cap space.
You mean the $15 million we have currently?
That rolls over to next year?
With $132 million in commitments in 2016?
And that’s before cuts/restructures.
So lets call that $125.
With a cap number that will be at least $150 millionand could exceed $160 million?
We’ll be conservative and say it only jumps to $155 million.
Add $15 in rollover cap.
That’s $170 in salary cap for the birds.
That’s $45 million.
That’s more than enough to do whatever business we want.
But sure, we don’t have cap space…
remember how much more we had before overpaying 2 RBs and a shitty corner?
Because people wouldn’t have freaked the fuck out over Lurie being a thrifty cheap ass.
Ha stop it… Considered retiring? Don’t make me laugh.. We have enough to be upset about, no need for you to make up extra fairy tales…. human nature applies to NFL players also,,.
On the bright side, there likely won’t be a heartbreaking super bowl loss this year.
Can u say top 3 draft pick?
Who should we get with the #1 overall pick?
maybe they’ll draft an OLman!
Tommy, I feel like this was maybe the worst Eagles game I’ve ever seen. Not the 2012 finale, not any of the crap from 2005, this was the worst I’ve personally witnessed (I missed the 98 season).
Care to weigh in on where this fits? Because I feel like it deserves some kind of recognition.
Where does this fit? The fuckin toilet that’s were this fits
When Bradford ran for that first down, I realized I no longer cared if he got hurt. I would have been perfectly fine with Sanchez at that point.
Hell, with the defense holding Dallas’ offense to 13, Sanchez probably could have won this game…
yes he could have i wanted him in the first half, hopefully bradford gets evaluated.
I’m done with Bradford already, and it’s from him down. The other stuff can improve but if he’s at helm, it won’t matter.
YES
When Sanchez looks like a better option at QB, given how mediocre he was last year, you realize you have NO starting QB.
Chip’s third home loss against the Cowboys came in his third season. Andy’s third home loss against the Cowboys came in his 11th season.
Just, wow…..
Boys were irrelevant until Parcells was their coach though with a lot of mediocrity in the FO & coaching staff during Reid’s tenure.
He’s owned em in Dallas though. Pointless stat. Only thing that matters is getting to the playoffs and beyond. Of course I don’t have to tell you that …
Best text I got today –
‘How long before Maxwell is eating his lunch alone in his car?’
too soon
Tons of negativity on Bradford. Don’t know if I have ever seen the Eagles’ fans turn this quickly on a starting QB.
Dude was hyped up to ball out and be drew Brees reincarnate
Wasn’t thrilled with what it cost to trade for him to start with. Then, all summer, all we heard was how great he looked in training camp. Built a lot of hopes up and Kelly’s comparison’s to Brees did him no favors. Two games in, he’s had one decent half of football surrounded by a lot of complete ineptitude. He’s been exactly what we saw in St. Louis in a negative way. He’s horribly overpaid, only signed for this season, and we gave up a starting QB, even if only a mediocre one, and a 2nd round pick in exchange for what is right now a one-year rental.
My only quibble is that we didn’t get a 2nd round back pick with Kiko for McCoy because of “salary” being something of value in a trade…………but “salary” didn’t matter for swapping Bradford for Foles and we had to give up a 2nd as well. Either “salary” has value or it doesn’t………….every time.
Foles – just last year.
This is Chip’s “blow it up & rebuild season”… He has a 5 year plan and this is year 2. We will get a higher draft pick and he consolidates the rest of his picks in rounds 1 – 3.
I’m not being negative… just realistic… but Chip is a lot more fun to watch than Andy.
In general, I agree. But today was as bad as I’ve seen in as long as I can remember. I’m 38 and was born with green blood. This was bad.
I agree. Horrible game… and to think I woke up at 4am to watch it.
when does a “blow it up and rebuild season” involve paying big money to two running backs and a corner, bringing in an expensive qb salary+giving up a 2nd round pick, and paying demeco ryans starting LB money?
how is that in any way remotely close to a rebuilding season. it sounds to me like shit allocation of resources. blow it up season, maybe. rebuild season, hell no.
it’s a multi year project
5 year plan.. Hes only signed for 5 years. This being his 3rd.. So he has 3 years including this year to get this shit sorted
I’m sure CK will b extended
year 1. Kelly got full control this year, so in your spin of “don’t panic” — this is Chips 1st year…
I thought we were a super bowl contender though.
Eagles 2015 motto “I coulda been a contender”
Were the pats ST condensers when they stunk it up last year early to the point they were saying the Brady era is over?
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No one has EVER won or lost a siperbowl because of a week 2 game..
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this team will get better.. Improve enough to make it the auperbowl? Beats me.. But it’s soooo not even close to time to waive the white flag and start talking next years draft prospects
Really dude? Youse are fuckim nuts… I’m ghost
Peters looks old. That is scary. Babre isn’t helping him at all. Gardner is a waste of space. Johnson is the best player by far on that line. Lots of drops at WR and TE. The RB’s can’t run behind that mess. The CB’s, especially Maxwell, are not living up to their billing. Maragos, and Ryans should not be on the field on D. Only a couple real pass rushers on the team, and they are being misused. LB’s as a group are in real trouble. I think they need to put Rowe at safety, move Maxwell to the inside, and start Thurmond III. Oline needs a new combination, 0-2 is a deep hole. They don’t have time to “gel”. The WR group minus Matthews looks like a giant joke. No separation, no big plays. Billy Davis is showing why he hasn’t stayed with a team for more than a couple years. I think “Juandamentals” would be better at this point. What an embarrassment, and a waste of a day off.
Disagree. JP can play bad without blaming it on age. Kelce has been terrible, ate we going to blame his play on age too?
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So lazy and ridiculous to watch two games and decide a player fell off because he is old. Doubt you watched all of JP snaps yet, and took the time to compare them to what he looked like last year..
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The entire OL sucks, think blaming age is CRAP!!
We should have sucked this bad last year at least we could have got mariota
I just didn’t get kellys moves. In order of WTF?
1) McCoy for Kiko. Ah. That is what you got for compensation.
2) Let Maclin go for a rookie. OK. Now you had to blow resources we needed for OL.
3) Cut DJ and got zero
4) The Mathis fiasco… so he was over paid or unhappy
5) The Bradford /Foles thing and throw in a pick
6) Byron Maxwell
7) Late signing of Murray…. why did you bother get rid of McCoy
All that is enough to get you fired.
He better be fired.
What do you think Shady would have done for you yesterday? Probably lose even more yards then Demarco r
Shady would have done what he did last year with the same line…gained yards.
Shady had more value than an injured if promising rookie
Oh. and Drops and deflected balls into the air. What the hell.
Eagles lose to the Cowgirls with a delpeted team.. I mean for real depleted.. Eagles deserved to lose.. Joke performance
Joke coacj
“Before you pile on Allan Barbre and Andrew Gardner, ………………”
Sorry Tommy, but no sale. Both guys have been terrible, have no track record of NFL success as starter, and were put on blast by B-West during the post-game show on Comcast.
I don’t worry about Kelce cleaning up mental mistakes and/or Peters settling in better as the season goes on. I don’t work about Matthews and Ertz cleaning up their drops.
What I do worry about it that the guard situation will never settle itself and Bradford / RBs won’t get on track.
And there are some scary dudes on the Jets we have to deal with next week.
Pile on Chip Kelly this is his guys and his culture. This is all chip Kelly.we traded away the franchise leading ruaher and had 10yards rushing yesterday. And kiko is already out for the season.
That’s what Tommy is going to do. Rally the covered wagons in a circle. Those two guards suck. Maybe Peters and Kelce and ‘over’ trying because they know the have to cover to the two guards.
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I do worry about the drop balls. That’s two weeks in a row, our #1 wr has dropped balls. I’m not asking for circus catches. I’m asking you to catch the ball that’s hitting you in the hands. As of today, the best catch by an Eagle is by Kiko.
Color me stupid, but I still think Bradford can play at a high level if we clean up the interior pressure. Or if this team continues to stink we’d need to go all in for Goff.
A pox on anybody’s house who attempts to pump up drafting Cardale Jones or Trevone Boykin.
Hahahaha here’s a colored pencil
http://overthecap.com/free-agency/
If anybody would like to put a positive focus on the 2016 Free Agency period; here is the list.
Hopefully we can score a guard.
Hahahaha you suck
While they were not good, I am not sure it is just the guards. Chip’s system is predicated on a numbers advantage. I don’t see a numbers advantage.
Originally, the numbers advantage came from the QB read being responsible for a defender. We stopped risking our QB to that after Vick.
We gained a numbers advantage with packaged plays. Stack receivers to each side and have a hand off option. They can’t double everyone. I don’t see packaged plays this year.
Now, at the snap all 11 defenders know what to do. The conflict, the impossible choices seem to be missing. What happened?
Does it take time to install all of the offense? Did we lose a section of the playbook when the Suggs ruling came down? Has Chips offense been solved?
They suck make dick.Chip Kelly is a fraud.
They can’t run inside zone right now. And it’s not because DE’s are crashing down and taking it away. There is miscommunication, they can’t seem to pick up any kind of stunts (which is infuriating because if you follow your blocking rules inside zone nullifies any stunts), or they are just getting beat. It’s the bread and butter play which everything else stems from. You don’t need great talent to run zone blocking (this is true at the NFL level as the Shannahan/Kubiak run offenses has shown over the years).
If they get their collective heads out of their asses and figure out how to run inside zone everything will click.
Hahahaha everything will clock
I don’t know, you might be under selling it. Miscommunication is probably not the right word in the sense that they don’t have a conversation about who they’re blocking at the line. Point out the Mike and just run the scheme right? If it’s just getting their heads out of their asses, it seems like it wouldn’t be as bad as last night, maybe a few promising drives get shut down on a busted play and we come up short. Not totally shut down, coach has to abandon the run (in a run first offense) in a close game. This unit has no chemistry at all.
Miscommunication in the sense that when the WR runs a go route and the QB throws a comeback. They aren’t literally talking but they aren’t on the same page. They should be able to just pass off defenders if they do something unorthodox.
Like I said some of it is them just not executing very simple blocks but insofar as “they’ve been figured out!” if the offensive line just pulls their heads out their ass and looks like they’ve run inside zone more than once in their lives it would make a big difference.
I just think it’s funny because everyone says “fix”, like oh yeah it was great then it just broke. No this unit is still a work in progress. Fix it? No, finish it. We started on it late as a unit and now the project is past due. We’ve been doc’d 2 wins so far, get the project done and maybe we can still get a B on this ish.
Dallas seemed to be on the RB in the backfield so quickly that it couldn’t have been stunts. They were just blowing past someone. Or more likely, someones. I cannot believe we looked that bad against their 2nd team DEs. Worst offensive showing since #5 got benched at Baltimore, but that was against an excellent defense and not the collection of second stringers we saw yesterday. Utterly disgusting.
The ones with DL in the backfield immediately were more of the sweep plays, and Celek just let the guy run inside him and didn’t wash him down the line.
Mostly, I guess, but there were some plays where Bradford handed off and the RB was hit immediately. And on pass plays, people are critical about Bradford not seeing an open receiver, but it appeared to me he never had time to get to the third progression. Case in point, the INT in the end zone. 14 was open, but Bradford threw the ball with someone bearing down him from the left. Dropped passes, missed receivers, no blocking. Man, it was a true team effort.
Agreed. He’s not getting blasted but he’s having to deal with alot of dirty pockets. It makes sense he hasn’t played in 2 years, and under normal circumstances would be mitigated to a degree while he gets back in the groove but he’s got no running game and is being asked to throw it a ton.
Best way I can put it, the players ain’the helping the coach, and the coach ain’the helping the players.
Chip Kelly got his guys and his culture. Give him time TO make it all work. You saw how awesome the team can be in the preseason. Joe Banner picked us to win. Just give Chip Kelly more time . culture is much more important than talented players
Chip traded for a guy who was 18-31 that tells you everything
Eagles 2015 motto “Chip’s guys and culture made us preaeason favorites…”. Here’s the koolaid guys. Drink up. I know the majority on this board love Chip
Sammy said he can’t quite ‘pinpoint’ the problem.
xeynon — you were right.
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I haven’t read everything yet — any status on Kiko n Kendricks? I saw Kendricks blow his leg but for some reason, the camera’s and commentators never said it…
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speaking of commentators — “I haven’t seen an offense this bad in a long time” …”We thought the Eagles offense couldn’t have be worse than last week, but we were wrong”…
It’s a shame Bradford isn’t more mobile, because when the o-line breaks down, it helps when the QB can scramble out of the pocket.
That’s our leading rusher you are talking about 😉
I don’t care about the Guards, they are irrelevant If our veteran studs Kelce and JP are going to play so poorly. Can’t fixate on the Guards when the OLineman we should be able to count on are stinking the joint up.
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I think PFF is a joke, but I got a good laugh this morning out of Banner tweeting That PFF gave the highest grades to our Guarda, while Kelce and Jpp got very low grades… Didn’t watch the film yet, and I won’t, but I doubt the Guards were good enough to earn praise..
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maybe we should move Riley Cooper to Guard since he is here because he can block so well..
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When your 5 OLineman aren’t blocking anyone, why the Fuck aren’t you going with a heavy package, Celel, Tobin at Junvp TE keeping 7 guys in to Block? Who cards about having 4 weapons down field if your 5 Lineman can’t hold up? Why the hell aren’t you even attempting to keep 7 guys in to Block? I don’t understand. We can’t get anything Going, and you refuse to try and use more guys to help dominate the line of scrimmage? Is your offense really that non flexible that you don’t have a heavy package?
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No point in even dwelling on our Guards when Kelce and JP are shifting tHe bed…. The one silver lining, is with Kelce playing like dog Poo while still in his prime, hopefully JP isn’t struggling because age is catching up to him.. Hopefully like Kelce he hasn’t fallen off, but is just inexplicably stinking it up..
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Curious how many snaps Celek got yesterday. ERTZ was giving us Nothing, seems like if we are struggling to block the line of scrimmage, might be a hold idea go Put Celek on the Line to help out, and if that’s not enough, put in Tobin as a 2nd TE. And if we stil can’t block with 7 guys, put a 3rd TE in the game, or Ryan Mathews in at full bag..
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If your offense can’t get shit going, need to adjust….
We didn’t do that, we continued to try and block them with 5 OL that wasn’t getting any movement,.. Piss poor coaching job, and the offensive players really need to look in the mirror, wasting a solid game by the defense
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FIpp needs to stand in front of a Mirror all night and stare at himself
I have never been a big fan of gadget plays.. But when you haven’t put any gadget plays on film since like 2013, in a game like last night when you couldn’t get a spark going, why aren’t you trying to call a gadget play, surprise the defense and give us a spark..
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Can’t run up the middle with RBs? Try a reverse or double reverse with Agholar.
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Defense isn’t biting on our play action fakes? Then Dail up a friggin Flea flicker to try and fool fhe defense and get a big play.
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We aren’t even seeing the screen plays anymore where we would split lane out wide, to block for q WR behind him on a screen. We used to have success by stacking WRs on the outside, we don’t even attempt that any more
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Coaching was stale,, damn shame we wasted a great effort by our defense who chips offensive ineptitude put an insane amount of pressure on our defense
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If you aren’t executing and moving the ball, WTF are you using Tempo for? To get back to the bench quicker? When your offense is struggling, cut the tempo out, play at a normal pace, let the offense pick up 1 or 2 first downs on a drive and Then Turn up the teams.. Tempo, going 3 and out in 90 seconds is what too much to ask of a defense in the modern day NFL
If someone would have told us, the Defense is going to hold Dallas to 6 points ( I don’t count the Jordan TD or the Terrence Williams TD), Dez Bryant wouldn’t play, Romo would get KO’ed early in the second half of a close game, and Jason Witten sprained both ankles and 1 knee…
Every single person in Philly would have said we win by 30points in that scenario.,
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To be so inept when we had every matchup advantage immaginable against a hated division rival is disgusting.
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I’m not one to overreact and I still have full faith and that this team is going to get it together , but if we are being honest this goes down as one of the Top 5 Losses since the year 2000
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To let Dallas come to the Linc and win 4 games in a row can’t happen, Have some fuckin pride.
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We put more emphasis then anyone on ST, it is one of, if not the best ST in the NFL.when the offense is struggling so badly, It’s up to the ST to step up and make their mark on the game.. To pick this of all weeks to shit the bed and have a ST meltdown is about as horrible as it gets
gotta prepare for jets. at least there’s less billy davis talk today.
If this OL doesn’t get it together, the Jets DL might knock both our QBs out of the game… Hopefully jets have a big emotional win tonight against the colts and maybe come out flat Sunday on a short week..
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secondary is going to be useless
Multiple Choice Fun – What is the most annoying aspect about the Eagles’ season so far:
A) The possibility that Chip Kelly may be a fraud, and your vaunted opinion of him as an intellectual, innovative, modern football coach may be dead wrong.
B) You’ve wasted countless hours following this team since the Spring and your reward is an offense that can’t even gain a yard when necessary.
C) The biggest meatheads in the NFL media, the Florios, and Priscos and Evans of the world, have all been “right” so far.
D) Cowboy fans can rightfully say that they own the Eagles in the Chip Kelly era.
E) All of the above.
I’m going with A. One of the hardest things to deal with in life is when you have a strong opinion about a subject matter and the evidence starts moving away from you. I’ve been as big of a supporter of Chip Kelly as there is out there, and have considered myself lucky to get to follow such an “innovative” and “intellectual” coach. But I’d be lying if this season, when considering how last season ended, hasn’t been sowing some seeds of doubt.
I can’t remember an Eagles Offense *ever* looking this bad, not when they were relatively healthy.
Chip is clearly a smart guy, but right now he seems stubborn. Whatever they’re doing, however they’re practicing, whatever system they’re using to make calls on the line, none of it is working. Fix it Chip.
Honestly, it’s b. Sad but I don’t know what to do with my time if I have to avoid football all week…
B. Even though me putting in draft work, following the team, etc mean absolutely nothing. I still put a lot of damn time into this team.
B for sure. So much time focused on the draft and free agency and the preseason and getting so excited. Need more hobbies other than the NFL.
Pleased with how defense responded coming off bad Atlanta game..no matter how inept the offense was and how much pressure the offense put on the defense, defense fought all night to keep us in that game, giving our offense tons of opportunities..
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The drive that held them to their first FG was spectacular defense… Meco got burnt in coverage putting the Cowboys on the goal line, then Meco and Beau Allen exploded to pop the RB mid air as he tried to jump to get over the goal line… wHat a fantastic play by Beau Allen.. Then Meco made a play in coverage, and crisis averted, forcing them to kick a FG..
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Defense still has growing and gelling to do, but I was proud of the way they battled while our offense was so bad, holding up to try and give the offense a shot..
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How long do we have to wait to see a game where all 3 Phases decide to show up? Hopefully the Defense grows and sooner rather then later we play a game where offense, Defense and ST all SHOW UP!!!
Really dude? Youse are fuckim nuts… I’m ghost
Take my dick out your mouth, too early for all that
Pussy boy.
Just to kinda change the subject… I’m in (or was in) a 50 person suicide pool. If the Jets win tonight, the pool has a winner. 46 out, 3 picked IND. 46/50 (and maybe 49/50) people couldn’t pick two winners WITHOUT the point spread! I guess that says there were a lot of upsets and a lot of games going against the chalk, just like Phi-Dal. It’s a long season, maybe some good things happen. Don’t jump off a bridge yet.
That throw where Hicks gave up the long pass? That right there is exactly why the staff taught them not to turn their heads when they’ve been beat by their receiver last year.
So far they have been getting killed by lining up the RB on the outside. Same play last week that luckily hit barwin in the head. This week they used it against Kendricks where he pulled his hammy. Teams are definitely running this play on the Eagles and getting the ILB lined up outside on a RB and bombing it. Paging Bill (d)avis
Every team tries to get RBs lined up on LBs.
Not really.
Lol, your trolling knows no limits.
MEH there are a few things that could have him upset him. His love for Tim Tebow and stance on abortion. Philly fans want to kill babies and eat them. Another could be he believes that Chip Kelly is a racist. It could be McCoy who is still obsessed with his old team. He (McCoy) could’ve had a nice laugh last night but you have to win your game before you can do that.
Anyone who a tiny bit about football knows that to be true. Apparently though, you know, there are people here who don’t know that.
A rb matched against a rookie lb is an offensive wet dream.
This O is so frustrating right now. Teams swarm our front with a lot of people and agressive movement at the LOS, shutting down then run, so let’s throw a screen. Oh look line backers and DB’s are right there to clean it up. Well back their asses up, throw it over the top. Well even in the off chance the O line could give Sam the time, and he decided to trust there would be time, apparently Rams fans assure us that throwing down field is not his thing. Well then let’s just flail around for 3 quarters and change, then the other guys will go into prevent and back off on their own to give us the space to finally make the offense work.
I hate to be that guy, because yes guys without elite speed WR’s can go over the top, but only certain guys can back a defense up and make the critical space this offense needs to operate. We just haven’t been the same since 2013.
If the Eagles are 2-6 or 3-5 at the halfway point (or worse), do you bench Sam Bradford so you can get that 4th Round pick in 2016?
We may need it.
Lol fuckim idiot . Hee haw, hee haw
You should wait until the tears dry before you post. I know you’re an emotional wreck right now since your entire identity is tied to this team, but maybe sit the next couple days out guy?
Take a break, maybe? You’re just embarrassing yourself.
Well I was going to try to be nice to him and try to be human to him but he attacked me for no reason yesterday. There’s something seriously wrong with that fucktard.
Sadly, you’re the only one who calls him out on his mental illness still, everyone else has conceded that he has his followers. Those 12-15 year old kids worship him, he’s the face of Eagles’ blogs. You know like Jared was the face of Subway.
At that point you’re toast, Bradford’s gamble on himself doesn’t pay off like Maclin’s did, and we move on to whatever it is we move on to.
Is this even a real question? Of course we do.
Chip Kelly is Buddy Ryan without a dynamic quarterback and defense. Line up, let your qb make 3 or 4 great plays and let your defense dominate the game. Fuck the offensive line, don’t focus on drafting or making them better. When Buddy realized he needed someone he picked up that stiff from the Colts who ended up testing positive for steroids and just sucking. Buddy had moderate success with that formula, but it is not, I repeat not, a Super Bowl winning formula. Nor is it a playoff winning formula as you saw with Buddy.
Already sick of the knee jerk reactions and commentary. Kelly was a genius 3 weeks ago and now he is an utter buffoon, etc.
Arguably the most passionate fan base in the NFL but also the most impractical too.
Appreciate the more even-handed take Tommy takes.
This team is talented, we lost Maclin over a couple of dollars, we lost Evan Mathis because Chip is a blockhead. Having said that, nothing will get going until we get the offensive line to play at least mediocre.
It is not that but the shrill overkill about this game has already made me tune out to local sports media.
I don’t blame you, I go silent when things happen. No sports news, no sports radio. I’ll just wait until noon on Sunday and watch pregame with Ray Didinger, who’s really level headed. Then I’ll watch the Jets’ game and hope things get turned around going into Washington. All is not lost. The 02 team started 0-2 getting smashed in their first two games. That was the year Westbrook turned the whole season around on the punt return against the Giants.
No way I’m giving up or crying, but would hope that I can point out the flaws in a level headed manner. Straighten this line out. We know there’s some talent there, we have at least 3 guys who should be able to play. We have to figure out a way to get running backs going behind these guys. That shotgun run is shit, start getting under center, play action pass, SOMETHING! AHHHHHH
I’ll be out of the country Wednesday morning, all I have to do is avoid all media for the next 2 days and I will be in a country where I won’t hear about an eagle game… I can’t imagine after yesterday having to hear all the talk in Philly all week… Much needed few days break from tne grim reality of the start to this eagle season,,
Lots of Eagles’ fans in Cuba.
Where will you go next week if they go 0-3? North pole? LOL.
God I don’t even want to think about the embarrassment that would come with losing to Fitzpatrick
Yeah, I agree. I’m going to wait for ChipWagon to comeout with some All-22s, but I think it’s just going to show the OL getting torched.
it’s funny because most are tired of the “even-handed” or the “it’s ok, we’re fine, let’s all do a group hug” reactions…
You can only see how play out including next week at this point. If they lose then and get buried, there season is basically over.
The overwhelming majority of people who are coming out of the woodwork saying ‘I told you so’ are either completely full of it or signing a very different tune from the preseason.
I have lived in several locations in the US including San Francisco, Boston, and St Louis along with 3 stints in Philly including growing up. Always been amazed how passionate this fan base is but how bipolar too. Even more so than the typical NFL town which always vacillates during the inevitable weekly ups and downs.
I”m real life bipolar and believe me, the Eagles don’t help my cause. Especially when mania seems to get worse with season change. It’s double trouble, I’ll be walking naked around my neighborhood before you know it. Probably with an Eagles’ flag wrapped around me
I used to care a lot more but as I have gotten older with more responsibilities it takes a back seat.
I understand why people are piss, frustrated, etc. nor am I saying that I am a ‘better fan’ which is completely objective.
My life has revolved around the Eagles when I’m in a depression. In other words, when things are going bad for me, the Eagles KILL me, I”m upset etc. When my life is going good, having kids, new g/f, or wife, not married but you get my point, the Eagles are fun, but when life is good, the Eagles don’t hurt as bad. That’s been the case as I got older, although it wouldn’t help if the Cowboys won the Super Bowl, that might throw all the good things in my life out the window.
Giants 0-2, Dallas without Dez and Romo…it’s still a good day 😉 …
Seattle is 0-2. Baltimore is 0-2. Lots of company there.
Onto the Jets, lets see if they can figure this out.
Yes! Yes! Optimism, a way out of this hell hole of a season, you have the right attitude. Plus it’s not crazy to think it could happen.
Yep, we somehow beat the Jets and going to Washington after they lose to the Giants, well hell, I’m happy. Maybe things get straightened out and they look like that team flying around, scoring tons of points. Maybe pigs will fly, but seriously, I think it’s a possibility those things could happen. If we turn it around December is loaded with home games.
A guy with your sense of humor must be doing pretty damn good.
I appreciate hopefully your non-sarcastic comment lol…No pity please, but I have a chronic and so far manageable cancer called multiple myeloma. If you don’t laugh at things, you’ll cry. Yep, that’s been said a million times but it really is true. Getting upset over a game, life is too short. Don’t get me wrong, I fucking can’t stand it, but the next day if I don’t get over it I’m wasting energy and my life. You don’t have to have a chronic disease to feel that way either, we all should enjoy what we have. I take it if we are all on this board we aren’t looking to find a place to live, we’re not refugees with no food, kids that we need to take care of and have no place to take them. Urgent and scary things happening all over the world. This is our main complaint? The Eagles sucking? Life is good then.
I did sincerely mean the comment. I’ve observed your posts and found you to be reasonable and insightful, especially when you agree with me! I also very much agree with you, if a person doesn’t have a sense of humor, well, life can be very tough.
I share a lot of your feelings about keeping our Eagles passion in perspective. I’m sorry to hear about your health issues and I wish you the best. In all of our lives there is some degree of suffering. To confuse the loss of health or a loved one with losing a football game is folly. It’s a blast to love the Eagles and hate the Cowboys, but it’s not a substitute for real life.
I hear what you’re saying but don’t see it that way. People who hate Bradford, always will. People who hate CK always will. When a bad game happens, they post more. I don’t think fans are switching their opinions. They just get louder.
I do including even at the gym this morning including ‘yeah they suck’ while wearing an Eagles tshirt from some random guy.
I think they were awful. Terrible. But I don’t think they are as bad as what they’ve played. We can assume better games are coming … but we said that last week too.
Suicide pool was just brutal this week. We went from about 200 players deep to 8. Between NO, BAL, and MIA losing, it was a massacre.
ha! now that’s funny.
I took the Saints. There’s no more gimme in the NFL anymore. That’s without a line. It’s good to be Vegas these days.
One report came out and said that Brees got rocked in the 1st quarter and never recovered from that hit. Not a concussion, but seems like he did get hurt. Brees was my fantasy qb and killed me.
That sucks, sorry to hear that. That is probably part of the reason I’m not in fantasy. Also it would kill me to watch a guy play against the Eagles benefit me. I hate bittersweet.
Took the steelers in suicide.. That was easily the lock of the week against the spread
Really dude? Youse are fuckim nuts…. I’m ghost
“It’s execution and it’s coaching. We’re not putting those guys in a position to make plays.”
— Sounds more like AR than CK. I expect better from CK…
You an just minimize them I believe. It’s extremely annoying.
Question about tape:
It seems every time Kelce hikes the ball on the play, Gardner hits him to let him know to snap it. Does this mean the DL knows when the ball is going to be snapped and gets a jump on the play?
If that’s true then we need to start playing in the NFL special olympics.
Yes and that’s a huge advantage the offense normally has: the defense normally reacts to the offense when now the offense has to react to the defense.
Every team that plays out the shotgun does this, Packers did it last night
Why would a home team need to do that if the offense is playing with little crowd noise? I could see that in a loud stadium, but is it because the center is deaf? Doesn’t know the count?
that’s a good question, maybe teams feel it’s easier for the guy next to the center to let him know to snap it….personally i’ve never understood it. Sometimes you see QB’s in a shotgun who are screaming at the center to hike the ball when the play clock is running down. I’ve seen Romo do it at home and Rivers have to do it to Nick Hardwick at home over the years too so maybe coaches feel just a tap on the leg to the center is easier and causes less confusion
Yep, definitely have seen the screaming. Of course the first reason is because the play clock is running down, but there’s another reason, there’s an uncovered player and the QB wants the ball now. If you remember the Chicago Eagles’ playoff game the year we went to St Louis Championship game, McNabb saw a wide open Westbrook(?) standing at the 5 yard line and screamed for the ball. No one was within 10 yards of Brian and bang! Got the ball out and threw to an uncovered guy for a TD. It happened opening game against the Pats- Steelers. No one was covering Gronk of all fucking people, Brady called for the ball and threw an easy TD.
As far as the clapping and screaming goes because the clock is going down, I don’t get it. Isn’t there a set count? Maybe it could be things are being shifted at the line, play is being changed, things are taking long and before you know the QB starts hollering and clapping.
yes all those things you mentioned and probably others
center doesnt have to look back at qb
Which allows him to keep his eyes on the defense so he doesn’t miss any last second adjustments.
I’ll bet Bradford wishes he would have negotiated a new contract. His performance is costing him millions.
There’s the silver lining. He looks like a confused moron out there. That may be his normal look though. Well if this keeps going this way, potential Eagles’ free agents are 1-1. Maclin wins, Bradford is backing up somewhere next year. At this point, he might end up in Canada.
Sucks to be him. Of course, while he plays backup somewhere else, Eagles are left without a qb.
Well sadly, Sanchez got a decent contract, I guess that’s their B plan. B as in bullshit for the fans.
Right you are. Mark has already lost the qb competition twice. No one wants him for qb1. If Sam goes elsewhere, Eagles re back to square one, without a qb of the future. Bullshit, indeed.
I’ve never seen a unit so comprehensively and totally beaten. That’s squarely on Chip. I’m normally the guy who says, it’s so early, don’t over react but after they lost that pathetically, it’s a lot worse than I could have ever imagined.
I’m afraid the NFL might have figured Chip out. His running out of shotgun is a joke. Defenses dont defend the QB which the system tries to implement. Now, you put a more mobile QB in this system and then I could understand his approach. We have Sam Bradford back there, he’s not running at all. He has to throw out most of his playbook and re write it for an in-mobile QB.
His team is NOT PREPARED. FIVE GAMES NOW. Hisboffense is more predictable than a Republican retort during a debate. Don’t kid yourself, this team won’t win many games. You have to kill losing culture then be reborn unto a winning one, you can’t tweek things when you lose that badly then come out of it. This team will be the worst in the NFL this year.
Donald Trump would tell you that this next game is: HUGE! That the Eagles’ cheerleaders have great asses and if he had Chip Kelly’s cell number he would give it out.
I agree with Corry: one person is to blame and that is Chip Kelly. We need Jeff Lurie to step in now and strip Chip of the General Manager-ship. We need a professional GM, with a proven track record, who can evaluate talent and whose picks can get on the field. We need one who will regularly draft offensive linemen an whose picks, especially at OLB and CB, can get on the field. We need a GM who will not overpay free agent CBs nor players with injury histories, nor sub-par ex-Oregon players.
Jury is still out on OLB and CBs; the defense and it’s personnel aren’t nearly the beginning or surface of the problem. It’s the O line and it’s by a long shot and that’s the truly frightening thing: Chip is supposed to be a guru but his evaluation of his o line was so off, they lost THAT poorly last night. That wasn’t the Eagles offensive line out there, that was Chip’s evaluation and stamp of approval getting horsed around like that.
Further inquiry would reveal even the pro bowlers on the line where inept which even FURTHER compounds the problem. That means Coaching has failed on an exponential level.
What’s concerning to me isn’t so much the two guards, but the other pro bowlers surrounding them. yea Barbre and Garnder have been bad but Peters looked terrible last night, Lane has been average i guess and Kelce has been a nightmare. These guys haven’t just been held in high regard around these parts but the league has also told us these 3 players are studs. As Tommy has said….nobody on the o-line is playing well or even average
Oh sure, I’m way more concerned about the Pro Bowlers’ lack of performance (which reveals ineptitude on Chip’s evaluation capabilities and HIS staff’s lack of getting their players ready). If Barbre and Gardner suck, well duh.
I think they should fire Chip Kelly completely. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE.
Changing anything now will not improve immediate results. There is way to much invested to make a change now. They have to see this through.
There’s nothing more important to our season right now than a Jets’ win tonight. That seems hard because the Colts are at home and they go smashed last week. If the Jets win, the heads get big, the talk in NY goes away from the Giants, and of course, as normal in the NFL, the Eagles come out and take it to the Jets.
yea i totally agree….Everyone is going to roll their eyes at me right me now, but before the pre-season, i predicted this team would start 0-2 and the sky would be falling especially after a home loss to Dallas although i never would have predicted it to be THAT ugly. To go along with this prediction though, i was saying that Geno Smith would be the quaterback to start out 2-0 for the Jets and everyone would be pumping him and Todd Bowles up as serious playoff contenders…The media seems to love the Jets especially new york media. I said after our 0-2 start they would go 11-3 the rest of the year. I had originally thought this because there were so many new players on both sides of the ball…not that the o-line would be a disgrace. Pre-season happened and i bought into the hype like a lot of people….i sorta wish that great pre-season never happened
I wish we had actually played our starters more….
Yup, yup and yup.
starting o line should have played a lot more
I hope you’re right man, so far so good with your predictions. You know what I wish with our freaking preseason? We played a bunch of starters and let them get to know each other more. It was a big failing, at the least we should be 1-1. The Dallas loss would still be horrible, but we wouldn’t have put ourselves so far behind the 8 ball. I welcome the 8 ball drug references if anyone has any.
Could happen.
not if Bradford starts, only way for Chip to salvage season is to make the move. Hes just not good, he is what we worried he would be.
Dallas has: Atlanta, Saints, Pats, bye, Giants, Seahawks, Eagles and Bucks…..I think that schedule is more important than tonights game.
I’m looking at here and now. Tonight’s game is tonight, you’re closing in on Thanksgiving.
If Dallas can manage 4-4 without Romo, they re still in good shape for the stretch run They were putrid with Weeden last year, so hopefully we get a 2-6 or 3-5. No Murray to rely on this year also. Yeah he might suck here right now, but he’s a perfect fit for the Dallas line. I think Dallas misses him as much as he misses them. Weird how it could happen that way, we’ll see how that plays out though. I fucking hate to say this but that Sean Lee is a beast.
Jordan Hicks may be the MVP. He may have lost to Dallas yesterday. But the hit that took out Romo is beating Dallas everyday. At least it will keep Dallas from getting too far out in the standings. The Eagles can gain a lot of ground.. If they can turn things around. With Romo and Dez out, it will not take more than 11 wins to take the division. Probably 9-10 wins takes the NFCE.
murray doesn’t suck the blocking does
Murray doesn’t suck, that’s the point, Weeden, no Murray, not really doing a great job running even with their great offensive line. They could be a 3-5 team until Romo comes back, they could put it together a be a .500 team which bodes well for them. Murray needs to get up in the line, not running that stupid sideways play waiting for the line to make a hole. The defenses are prepared for that lame ass play. They are hitting the gaps so fast Murray is getting hit 5 yards back. That play should disappear forever. Bye, gone, see ya.
Just remember, Seattle is 0-2 as well. Does anybody think their season is done today? Is anybody ready to fire their coach? It’s a long season people calm down!
They don’t look as pitiful as we do though.
Big difference in the way they lost and the way we lost…. We honestly look historically bad. Season may not be over but its on life support
A loss is a loss. The Eagles’ defense shut down the Cowboys and did decent last week as well.
The Cowboys were awful…. and without Dez. Unless our D starts scoring points we are in trouble
you think we’d have kept it close w/ gb in gb?
i agree, sucks double time because a win is a win. Dallas has played two shit games and are 2-0
you comparing a SB winner and a return trip to the SB vs. the Eagles, who missed the playoffs last year? well done…
That’s because he has buge halls, but still has a poiint. There’s talent here, a terrible division just made worse yesterday, there’s a chance. It’s early.
LOL okay. DID YOU MISS THE OFFENSIVE LINE? THEY SUCK
What was it? The Chip Kelly racism? The Tim Tebow and baby killing Eagles’ fans? Is this McCoy? What made you so upset and obsessed with your whining?
I TOLD YOU FROM DAY 1 CHIP KELLY IS A FRAUD!
I am SOOOOOO much smarter than you and know so much more about football than you. You are dumb. I am smart.
Smarter than me, and Tim Tebow is a good QB. I eat babies. NOM NOM NOM!
Sam Bradford professional record 18-40.
Tim Tebow professional record as a starter 19-10
NOM NOM NOM NOM MMMM Anyone have any A-1 sauce?
I mean he is trolling but it’s actually funny. What else is left at this point?
I agree he’s not bad, he’s doing what he set out to do.
Get you to comment, exactly.
yes, there is a chance. it’s only game 2. But it’s better to compare us to the Giants than Seattle.
I’ll take that, they turned the shittiest of seasons and went 9-7 in a shitty division and the rest is history.
Did you see the list of QBs who had more rushing yards than our RBs? It’s EVERY QB IN the league yesterday.
That is pretty funny.
Season isn’t over, but even if they recover, knowing the floor, can anyone truly say this team is a contender.
Depends on what were contending for.
Comment of the day during game day post
Really dude? Youse are fuckim nuts….. I’m ghost
The O-line needs to start putting a hat on a hat and stop running this
zone blocking, stunt, pull/kick out, or whatever you want to call it,
bullshit. Push the D-line straight back. I saw way too many Eagles’ linemen rushing right past defenders coming through the line because that wasn’t their “assignment”! You see a guy wearing the wrong color jersey in the backfield, you block him (or lay him out)! Put an extra TE or OL in the backfield since we don’t have a FB to block for the running back.
TOLD YOU THIS TEAM AND THIS COACH SUCKS! TOLD YOU TOMMY!
Fire Chip Kelly RIGHT NOW! This is unacceptable. We are Philly fans and WE deserve a CHAMPIONSHIP. GET RID OF THIS FRAUD CHIP KELLY.
fireChipKellyToday.com sign the petition!
SMH
Did you call Angelo this morning and tell him this?
Tim Tebow, baby eating, racist Chip Kelly, McCoy haters!
You guys need to have a sip.
http://www.jawnville.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Chip_koolaid.jpg
At least if you are going to troll, give me a laugh. This did.
OH shit, didn’t see the face, LOL…Not bad.
20-12 as a coach, 0-2 being GM. So far his GM skills look shitty. Whoever says Chip Kelly is a bad coach is STOOPID.
20-14 in the regular season.
Add it up, 20-12 + 0-2 = 20-14. I knew what I meant, I was just keeping it a secret.
Been there .lol
Thanks for going easy one me haha
That early snap turnover was good coaching? THis team is so unprepared because they didn’t practice hard enough in training camp. there is noway you can say Chip Kelly is a good coach.
Look at all the teams jumping on each other to sign Tim Tebow! Wow, what a GODLY QB! Weeden is playing but not Tebow! What a STOOPID league!
Are you crying?
MMMM Babies!
BTW. Babies are delicious deep fried in peanut oil. One may think baby oil.. But not so much.
That sounds delicious, I’ll give that a try, thanks for the tip!
You are! YOU ARE CRYING!!!!
You’re dumb, I am smart. You lose I win.
In fairness ESPN and the SEC Network were battling for Tebow’s services.
Of course, that’s a no-brainer, he’s a train wreck. It would be fair if the Networks were actually teams that needed a quarterback who throws like a girl.
I typed that in total Jest. And watch out that you don’t offend any ladies, comparing their throwing motion to Tebows. Have you seen the Kick, Punt, Pass competition? Some of those young ladies can spin it and would get hurt feelings knowing they beat down the girl throwing stereotype, just to be compared to Tebow. 🙂
Oh shit, that feminist movement, you’re right. Sorry, should’ve recognized the sarcastic tone. It’s the Tebow trance, I need to snap out of it.
how many more years do the eagles give mouse davis?
This is good coaching :
https://embed.gyazo.com/fe910e405d04b53dc9f58b10038354b9.mp4
..
http://memecrunch.com/meme/XDE7/chip-kelly-be-like/image.png
Or
http://www.ooyuz.com/images/2015/8/15/1442324604511.jpg
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12006198_10153731195894171_3657975581505422469_n.jpg?oh=99d04195680bf64a2ef3e26c2f481796&oe=56955FC7
Can someone please remind me how you put a person on ignore? Thanks.
Why does a raging lunatic bother you? If you can’t find entertainment in this guy then you need to eat more babies,
Oh no, neither of you. Never ever.
Either Tommy doesn’t read the comments or he doesn’t give a shit, he could easily block the IP address….mine too.
For saying the Eagles suck. Are people allowed to post only if they sip the Chip Kelly Koolaid?
I still like you better than Geagle.
There is no way. Just scroll down. You can also minimize that particular post by using the upper right corner of the post. There should be a way to ignore a poster.
If all else fails.. I hope the Eagles sit Bradford with a fathom injury so they can recoup the conditional draft pick. I know it is not the 2nd round pick. But I believe it to be a 3rd or 4th back if Sam doesn’t play x amount of games or snaps.
4th if he doesn’t play 50% of the snaps
3rd if he doesn’t play at all I think
Thanks for the clarification. So the 3rd is out the window. If things keep going the way they are a High 4th isn’t bad. Unless you use it for a Matt Barkley. That being said. Lets hope this ship gets turned around and Chip looks like a semi-genius,(at least), again.
They could sit him for sucking, Chip said in the press conference he’s evaluating every position including qb. Coaches too. Maybe he’ll fire himself and Billy Davis, that’s at least two of the culprits.
Start the Stephen Morris era if we go 0-6
Is it true that an early Vegas line has the Eagles as 2.5 point favorites next week?
This line is only good if we play the 3rd string.
Jets haven’t even played yet. There isn’t a line.
Yep, since I”m smarter than some people there is a line for the game and the Eagles are favored by 2.5. That will change tonight, but like I said there is a line and that makes me smarter than some people.I would stupid if I said a line wasn’t set.
So the Eagles were outscored 48-10 in the first two games in 03. Totally embarrassed and dominated. There’s that.
Dean Vernon Wormer: Here are your rushing yards per carry. Mr. Sproles: 6 carries, 46 yards. That’s a 7.7. Congratulations, Sproles. You’re at the top of the Eagles’ running backs. Mr. Matthews?
Mr. Matthews: Hello!
Dean Vernon Wormer:
1.0… Ineffective and inconsequential is no way to go through life, son. Mr.
Bradford, franchise QB? 4.5. A fine example you set! Kevin Monangai… HAS no yards per carry. All carries incomplete. Mr. Mur…
[sees Murray with a pair of pencils in his nostrils]
Dean Vernon Wormer: Mr. Murray… zero… point… five.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iKS0GVvoE9I/hqdefault.jpg
Seven years of football down the drain
That was awesome
I have to apologise, guys. The reason for the Eagles being 0-2 is simply due to the fact that I couldn’t watch both games live as I was on holiday. And re-watching the games via gamepass must have jinxed them.
You can now go ahead stoning me…
Glad you finally took responsibility. Now do the right thing. You know what you have to do.
Were you suggesting… http://www.coldsteel.com/images/Products/AltImages/88DK_8.jpg ?
feels great to be the underdogs again!
and I was impressed with the heart of Demarco.
the game was comical really, the snap off Sam’s chest was the capper!
these guys are hilarious when they want to be.
ya that after a big turnover. Then the INT with 5 min left. I just left after that, couldnt watch anymore
Will say we aren’t the only team who can’t run, lions were similarly anemic yesterday
It doesn’t help when you compare us to a team that lost, appreciate the effort though.
Ok to be upfront and honest, I don’t cheer injuries. What I do cheer is when Jerry Jones says his heart is broken, brings a joyful tear to my eye.
Only good think to happen to us all season. Though how the skins look so good I can’t understand.
I hope it’s a mirage. We beat the Jets and have them in two weeks this could be a chance to get back in the division. Go Giants on Thursday. @ NY I’m liking it. If Atlanta beats Dallas, all those things happen, Yay, I’m crashing through the wall like the Kool Aid guy.
unfortunately no matter what other teams do we need to be way better or else it doesn’t matta
Long live Jerry!!! Now if we can just do something with that pesky Stephen Jones guy.. That smart, semi-competent bastard talked Uncle Jerry out of Jonny Jughead and had them draft some O-line guy instead. I detest Stephen Jones as much as Jimmy Johnson because they both got in the way of Jerry’s incompetence. Maybe if all the media starts giving Stephen all the credit. Jerrys’ ego will fire him. There is still hope as long as Jerry makes the final decisions.
Think this week will tell us if ck is a coach or an oc.
its going to be interesting now to watch the team get better through the season.
see how they do.
PLayoffs? playoffs?
come on don’t worry about that now. lets just see them try to get better.
How much sugar goes in a pitcher of Kool Aid?
2 cups of sugar and a babies hand to stir it.
LOL
Cox needs to teach Gardner a lesson behind the woodshed.
http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2015/09/the-eagles-run-game-is-a-hot-mess.html#more
WTF happened to Celek?
I’m beginning to think the tempo is too fast. I saw this in Duck games during the early Chip years. There is a structural component to this poor execution.