CAR 14, PHI 6 – 2nd Half
Posted: October 25th, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 771 Comments »Not a pretty 1st half at all. The offense is struggling and the defense has given up 119 yards rushing already. To be fair, most of that came on 2 plays (a 43-yard run by WR Ted Ginn will do that).
The Eagles stole 3 points at the end of the half to cut the lead to just one possession. Better field goals than nothing, but the Eagles must get TDs.
Sam Bradford did not have a good 1st half, but he was hurt by drops (what’s new) and some penalties on his OL. Speaking of the OL, Jason Peters left the game with a lower back injury. That hasn’t helped matters.
Bradford seemed to wake up a bit late in the half. He really needs to get going if this offense is going to have some success. The Eagles have run the ball reasonably well, but need more production from the passing game.
This is still a very winnable game, but the Eagles have got to play better in the 2nd half.
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I’m just glad we look like a competent football team (mostly) tonight, even if we are losing.
Game feels like a loss.
However, we’ve run 42 plays already. Might take a toll in the 2nd half. Murray and Matthews might have some fun in the 4th qtr.
Time to see what adjustments Chip and Billy make.
I said in the last thread that the offense isn’t actually playing horribly. They’re making mistakes at inopportune times. We’ve handled them, just need to stop with the stupidity.
The sack Peters gave up the series before he went down makes more sense now, knowing he was having back issues.
Good point.
Is Jordan Mathews a big let down this year so far
Yes
One of the biggest I can remember.
If this was a 4-pt deficit, I could see the Eagles taking this game. just don’t see them able to pull this out tonight.
Holding the shit out of Thurmond.
Ewwwww
Kendricks slipped. Couldn’t stop that short of the first.
We should be hitting Cam on a lot more plays.
great throw by cam
Those slants are ALWAYS there it seems.
bad things seem to happen when Marragos is on thefield
Blitz has got to get home
Way too easy for the Panthers. Way, way, way too easy.
horrible blitz
cam is killing the eagles, cant defend him
He’s never looked this good
All optimism gone. We suck.
Pretty seriously negative play by Thurmond…
21 to 6 coming up
*17-6
Lots of time left
but Bradford has got to hit some big plays, and the recievers have to catch
I have zero faith at the moment that a comeback is possible. I really want to be wrong
i guess cant depend on special teams and defense to come up with saving plays every week.
I think we just need to stop playing the Panthers – too much bad history against this team.
last year was fun…
Just hit Cam. Please.
lol. Terrible tackling
Wow
Wow.
Shitty tackling, the defense might as well get in on the act.
defense aint got it tonight
You gotta be kidding me! Vomits.
thats disgusting
Maxwell whiffing
Maxwell completely whiffed on him lol.
Byron Maxwell doing a cheerleading move instead of tackling
I thought Asante wasn’t on the team anymore.
F u Maxwell.
game set match
also not happy with jenkins impersonating a double amputee
Aside from the sack , Kendricks looks bad and has whenever he’s been out there, even pre-injury
Maxwell not exactly have a stellar night so far
what was that from maxwell, put his arms up against chest to protect himself more than to tackle
That was a pathetic tackle attempt by Jenkins. You’d get yelled at in Pop Warner for that shit.
Ridiculous. So the offense needs to pick up the D this game and I don’t think they’re capable.
if they don’t score a td next possession, its blowout time
Apparently the legion of boom toughness doesn’t travel with the players after they leave lol.
Cut Maxwell.
looks like the players want a new coach
what i don’t get is the huge chunk plays every play
And I paid for Sunday Ticket. What a waste.
That was just pathetic by Maxwell. What a terrible pickup he was. Ugh. I knew he wasn’t a shut down guy but man he is just awful.
Yeah he has been a turd so far.
A very well-paid turd.
But we didn’t want to overpay Maclin, because that would be foolish.
You have forgotten Fletcher all too quickly. Maxwell is a huge upgrade. Not good. But big improvement.
Just when I thought tonight was going to get worse, I see a vision. Thank you Jennifer Anniston.
panthers not doing anything special on offense, but they are able to get plays strung together without errors or penalties. some teams make the little things seem so easy
I understand being frustrated, but if we are going to celebrate an aggressive defense that gets key turnovers, you have to allow for Maxwell to go for the ball hanging out there after Jenkins knocked the 260 lb back off balance.
Years’ past maybe this team makes it back down 21-6. Not this team.
well it isn’t 21-6 ha
that was quick.
Let’s not panic yet
Not surprised by the outcome of this game at all. Wasn’t convinced after beating two lousy teams we were any better. The offense is dreadful and the one time the defense has a bad game we are going to get blown out.
no ones panicing, just giving up
Ha.
I think we’ll win this.
Pull the trigger sam. Can’t keep double clutching.
everyone looked pretty covered tehre unfortunately
but chippers offense has guys wide open everywhere
Why is DeMarco in the game?
Collinsworth needs to stop calling Matthews our best. Hes not.
Oh? Which WR is better?
Ertz is the best weapon. Only guys I trust to catch the ball
Agreed, but he’s not a WR.
CC keeps calling Matthews our best weapon/option.
I honestly think Coopeer is our best reciever as sad as that may be
he’s been the most consistent
And with that I can say hello to rock bottom. Very disappointed in Matthews
Hes not specifying WR.
I can’t see a pass on 1st and run on 2nd and 10 anymore!
ertz is the only one who can get open
panther lb’s are great
Yay!!!
good ertz, more ertz
MATHEWS!
THERE YOU GO!
The good Matthews does his job.
The better Mathews!!!!
HERE WE GO BOYS!
love it. murray couldn’t
no flags!!!!
YAHTZEEEEEEE!!!!!
best offensive player on the tame sans peters. why isnt he fucking starting
damn he is fast
GIVE THIS MAN THE BALL MORE
wow
He might be better than DM…
Kind of wish that Mathews was the starter
Booyaa!!!
What did we do there? Their entire defense misread that.
good cut by Mathews
There was no one on the backside?
he was but over-committed a bit, RM stuck his foot in the ground and made the cut decisively
one cut and go.
It had to be more. I think Fran Duffy is going to show us how we set that play up by showing a tendency in the first half.
I don’t think it was a set up. A hole opened and Mathews did one cut..and go
Looked the the line pulled and Kuechly went that way to get ahead of it, but Mathews cut back the other way (perhaps by design).
About time we ran some misdirection against this defense.
Funny, Kuechly didn’t look that fast….
Really? He almost ran down a RB 50 yes downfield
Mathews has 4.4 speed.
I’m just being sarcastic since mathews ran away from him and all I’ve heard all night is how fast Davis and Kuechly are from Collinsworth.
Well they do play fast.
I want to say this to prevent hot takes.
Sometimes that change of pace from Murray to Mathews helps. This defense might be getting winded.
Love that he was watching the big screen to see how close his pursuit was
Nice block by Cooper there
Almost held.
Truck Nuts is the best block WR ever. Ever.
I’ve been screaming for him to get more reps since game 2 or 3. He deserves more carries.
FEED THE BEAST!!!
Finally! What a play!
I wonder if that was a designed cut back or Mathews creating when he saw there was a highway open to the end zone.
Thumper scores!!!
come on D, step it up here
They will. They feed off of the offense. We get a turnover here.
i want chris conley over matthews. I want sammie coates instead of him. martavis bryant? for sure. even sheed bailey at this point
Coates is stretching it. I rather have Green-Beckham over all of them. Conley a close second though.
whatever works
What happened, Matthews broke one? Just got off work.
Mathews. Fuck Matthews
Hell yes
but the defense is total suckage
Yeah ryan mathews busted out for like a 53 yard TD
the rb not the wr
will
halo 5 be more like Halo 3?
how bout you shut up
eat a bag dude, ill make a commercial comment if I please
Buy aps4 dude don’t do this to yourself
HUGE PLAY!
BTW, good blitz by Kendricks and then good hit by Hicks.
Big 3rd down
that was Coleman who Mathews juked easily.
Love it!!
HS Max!
Maxwell?????!
Yes!
YES YES YES YES
So, the team is lively, now!
WE LIVE!!!!!
Nice. Late hit there?
lol maxwell got beat badly and gets a lucky pick
He was picked, that’s good play design.
thurmond picked him
Matthews stone hands are contagious.. to the Panthers
Cam Newton had been sneaky bad in this game. Now it’s not so sneaky. Not our defense playing well though.
you’re kidding we’re avg 3 turnovers a game.
that is why he trails behind the receiver five yards
GOOD MAX!
oh this game is so over, blah blah blah
For some of you non-draftniks, Matthews might not have the worse hands out of those 106 players on the field. Meet Devin Funchess.
WTF WAS THAT MURRAY.
Quick guys, complain about something. It is almost sounding positive.
MURRAY SUCKS
Demarco Murray sucks. There.
sproles is short
Chip is so fat
He’s Reid-lite
He’s our skinniest coach in like 20 years
#meassurables
Chip Kelly Sucks
he just stopped.
They’re really not stopping our TEs at this point
Kurt coleman and Roman Harper are their S
Coleman was the guy Mathews blew by.
I have to admit. Tobin has played well as a stand in. Let D3FB out of his cellar now guys. He might be right.
actually you are right, surprised but good
I’m back… So….
dont ruin it now, go away!
celek is so damn reliable. dark horse for eagles hall of fame one day
not sure what to do here
I’m gonna watch the game.
i am going to distract myself
Every time they run the receiver to the line, you know it’s a run.
will sam throw another rz pick
No.
put mathews in
You can’t run side to side on this defense
get mathews in the game
That isn’t going to work against those LBs
Keuchley just reading the pulling linemen
soooo mathews just busts a td an dyou dont play him again?
Why go with the hot hand, let’s warm up the cold one
Catch the damn ball guys
it’s amazing
thats a great throw
Tiny bit behind. But catchable.
It was where it had to be but behind him.
The lack of a legit top receiver on this team is hurting us badly.
Said it earlier, but we miss Maclin more than anyone else we lost from last year.
it’s all about scheme, or wait until ags gets back #sarcasm
Huff with a drop. Everyone else is doing it, why not Huff too?
his second
that is just a drop, nothing else
Huff has to catch that.
good throw, bad drop again
CATCH THE FUCKING BALL
man do our recievers suck or what
So to recap, Sam actually isn’t the problem this evening. It’s all the damn drops. Again.
It was him early. WR both early and now.
I disagree actually. I haven’t seen him terribly miss a receiver or make a truly stupid throw….
I mean seriously.
Catch the ball.
Catch it.
I’m sick of Bradford throwing behind his receivers…it’s pathetic!
That was a great throw. Right where it had to be
Huff had to turn back a little bit. Was there a reason not to lead him more? Bit more touch might have been better too, though Kuechly was in the vicinity.
converted running back, never thought of as having good hands
Can’t blame Sam for that one
Someone in the receiver corps has to make a play!
Riley!
lol
Tough, but certainly a catchable ball for a pro.
Miles Austin. Paging 2009 Miles Austin, we need you badly.
ball hit em in the facemask
Next season we will probably over correct and get a receiver that can catch everything but can’t get separation
But that’s one thing that the guy can do better than the others already
mathews was never thought of someone who got separation, but had a big body and would learn to catch better
should ve looked for ertz, should’ve thrown it on 2nd down
So tha’ts 4 drops this evening I believe. I’ve got Matthews 2, Sproles 1, Huff 1.
deadly drops too.
one for missed touchdown and one for an interception, so yes, special drops
One on 3rd I think
crazy we’re not looking for ertz in the endzone.
Feed Riley!!
When’s Jason avant retiring? We need a hands coach
We need him to play for us!
I know TO needs a job. Maybe he can teach these WRs how to produce even with unreliable hands
In all honesty, I see Matthews with TO kind of ceiling if he can get just a bit more reliable with the catches.
You need to stop drinking.
matthews can’t beat man coverage
Put the drinks down sir
Is the offseason really still the story?
nationally ……sure!
This is at least our third national game.
Now they’re making mistakes. Yay!
Graham can’t let him get outside
How does tolbert get outside?
Graham didn’t set the edge
D just cant stop em, hoping screws up again
Theyr’e all taking turns missing tackles.
This drive could be a back breaker
at what point did they start sucking at tackling?
fLast week that was stuffed in the back and it’s like giants williams isn’t a big guy
thought a big back would be easier for them to handle
jesus, their one lineman just shoved one of our defenders 5 yards down the field.
really needed that td
jonathan stewart read a book, good.
They are going for the strip every time.
Hold, gotta be a hold.
Not for nothing, but this game is a war, and it’s a really good thing we get a bye week after today.
true
yes it is. Thankfully we haven’t had a lot of 3 and outs.
make them punt?
Yes
decline?
Needed a punt
BREAK ONE SPROLESY
A lot of game left
Huff takes one to the house to make up for the lost drop.
have to score a td here
any pts are ok, gota good stop
Feed Ryan….. Feed Riley!
Let’s go Bambi!
oline is giving him time
LOOK AT SAM SHOWING SOME MOXIE.
We need to go deep.
Think we could get one of their Lbs with a pump fake
yes ertz
Ertz making plays
Damn, now that’s a good throw.
Our TEs are unstoppable. Keep throwing the ball to them.
ERTZ ALL DAY.
That was a beautiful throw.
Ugh… of course he follows it up with a Folesesque backpedal.
That wasn’t Foles. That was Kolb.
Ouch.
to throw it away, that was a good play.
agreed, that wasn’t a foles play. Foles does that in a clean pocket.
where are the wheel routes?
Seemed like a rushed play, should have waited for the next quarter.
Why rush that play?
It is what we do.
Time for Coop
He’s our best wr
That’s sad.
So explosive
He hasnt dropped one yet
FEED ERTZ
Play calling is bad
I hate the stretch play against this defense. Side line to sideline doesn’t work.
yep
5 more times and if it doesn’t work then we will stop
But it was these plays that set up Ryan Matthews TD run. Over pursuit.
It was, but we’re not running cut backs. We keep doing the straight stretch play.
Yup. You beat a speedy defense by either running misdirection or running right at it, not by trying to get around the corner on it.
Miles Austin is having a big game.
Miles Austin has been good tonight. Solid hands.
Panthers defense is still overpursuing. How about a counter play?
did he call him “one tough ass”
Running it straight ahead at those linebackers has resulted in 3-4 yards a clip.
DM likes this power game. It’s where he’s the best.
thats the murray i like
positive yardage murray?
thats the murray i dont like
even though they have played poorly and made mistakes…..at least it’s an exciting game
we havent given up 3 tos we-re doing great for having no wrs
We have WRs. They just don’t have hands.
Cue Reid jokes…
I really want a win, a win + 2 weeks to hopefully get healthy and get their act together would be wonderful please!
I don’t know if they’re going to “get their act together”… I think the team is what you see. Good talent in some spots, not enough in others, way too inconsistent. Can win a bad division and make the playoffs but is not a threat to make a deep run.
Man get Bradford and sproles on the same page
wow
What the hell was that!
Terrible play call
fucking stupid play
terrible play call
strange playcall
allover that shit call
A quick out on 3rd and 9???
no idea
Sigh
EARTH TO CHIP, EARTH TO CHIP: sideline to sideline doesn’t work shit for brains.
Uuuuuuuuh
Should have just run the ball up the middle
Really, if you’re not going to throw downfield at least run a draw or something to have a better shot at a shorter kick
Not only that, but you get the chance to kick the ball in the middle of the field – not the right hash.
Chip is such a moron sometimes
Well does Sturg have it in him
worst thing about missing long field goals is just how much easier it makes the field position game for the other team…
That was such shit play calling.
Deserve to lose.
They’ve fought hard.
Ugh. Just awful.
lot of drops and stupid penalties…..but the play calling is borderline Brian Schottenheimer
run up middle two times, think of it as four down territory cus of the kicker
werent we at the 33 yard line
Cmon Chip… you have to know the odds are against Sturgis kicking two 50+ yarders in one game. You played with fire once and got away with it, don’t tempt fate.
Defense will bail us out with another TO
Praying
let same throw the damn ball.
although if lane got a better block, that could have gone somewhere.
HOLD
so close to smacking that ball out of his hand yet again
I hate soft coverages.
I have very little faith in our offense to score a TD. Move the ball, sure. Score in the redzone? No. Please prove me wrong.
WTF IS THAT
generous spot
D needs to force another TO
agree .. I think our Offensive game plan SUCKS. check out the massive hole right up the middle on every pass play
First time we’ve given up 100 yards to an individual rusher in a long time.
Broke an 18 game streak
If you told me we would have 3 picks off Cam…i thought we woulda won by two td’s
can we please put rowe in for maxwell
game
Sigh.
We need to get a stop here.
Their interior line has beat up our d-line
maxwell gives huge cushions b/c he’s slow
Or that’s the play call
wow…embarassing
Someone fucking smack cam
If they score TD we just let the panthers score 28 points, not so much an elite defense we thought we had
yeah what happened to our d line?
Not sure I agree. Given the field position and possessions they’ve had. Plus we don’t match up well against the bigger backs.
there’s a reason they are 6-0
Gotta hold em to a field goal. Nothing more.
I feel like it’s over
Nope
i thought you went away.
I was
well go back to wherever that was bc we were scoring. it’s a close game
Yeah Cris, running your quarterback gives you an extra blocker. That’s why as a defense you have to knock the snot out of the quarterback every time he tries to run.
We don’t have any thumpers
We thump with Cox.
I’ll so watching… Maybe I’m bad luck
GO!
me too
I even hate the way Cam calls his signals
maxwell actually in the zip code. nice
All things considered, if I’m a Panthers fan, I’m nervous as hell we’re gonna blow it.
expected to see a flag with Max covering on an incompletion
That kick was right down the middle. Bench Maxwell.
welp, its gotta happen, I just wish JM could make a play
Must be nice to have a kicker who can be relied on to get you 3 points when you can’t score a TD.
To be fair, Gano wasn’t kicking from 50 yards.
strurgis hit a 50yarder, you gotta at least be able to get in range
Can’t give up any more points. We can move the ball but can’t seem to cap the drives with scores.
Missed FG hurts badly.
well it was a 50…. we should have not played for the FG tehre.
Yeah that third down swing pass was idiotic.
Come on Sam, this is your moment. Show us you were worth the 2nd round pick
Can we play against a kicker who doesn’t put the ball out the back of the endzone on every kick off?
Aarrrgggghhh!! So close to breaking that.
murray, why not mathews
ugh we was going to break it for a big one there.
Wow. That would be as bad for them as we all feared with Peters.
Collinsworth sounds constipated
his man crush is hurt.
chip keeps pushin it outside
Those damned sleeves…
that’s the drive killer
SLEEVES!
for real though
fucking sleeves
That’s a late hit
Chip is as frustrating a play caller as Andy is.
was fine until he got his players
Sorry, but Bradford’s gotta break that tackle. You can’t let a guy tackle you by the fingers.
He does it often. He cant do it every time hes touched.
/me shakes the head.
wtf is this?
SOMEONE MAKE A PLAY.
i will jump if they run the ball down our throats again
out the window into the convertible?
ballgame right there, gotta convert, good teams do it, team has too many issues to be considered a contender at thispoint
Did anyone consider them a contender coming into this game? They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs.
if they make the playoffs its because of the weak division they’re in
Well, when Miles Austin is your most reliable WR, yes, you damn sure have problems.
I think Mathews takes that sweep to the house. Had a lane. Murray not fast enough, got tripped up by Kuechly.
I agree. But too bad Kelly is hellbent on force feeding Murray the ball despite the fact that Matthews has looked markedly better all season long.
Running right at them has gotten us some positive yards. Running/throwing outside has not. Why? BECAUSE KUECHLY IS A REALLY GOOD FOOTBALL PLAYER. WHY CAN’T CHIP FUCKING FIGURE THAT OUT?
It’s frustrating because this team has the actual players to win this game, but no let’s not use sproles or mathews or ertz but just run murray on that stretch play over and over and hopefully it will work. Wtf.
ummm what players to win? sproles isn’t as useful against really athletic ilbs. running is what’s working. wrs dropping balls like hot potatoes
TEs have been effective how about we use one of the 3 we have more?
I disagree,team hasn’t got the actual players to win the games, this offense is bad, even last week with that big win, I didn’t feel comfortable til the clock hit zero’s
There’s blame to go around the offense, but the bottom line is our QB isn’t good enough.
I think our O game plan sucks!
He’s not. But many of our ostensibly best players have underperformed horribly this year. Jordan Matthews has sucked. Ertz hasn’t taken the next step everyone was hoping for. Nor has Huff. Agholor has been a non-factor. Kelce has been uncharacteristically bad. The whole offense has been a mess.
I think Marc Marquez intentionally drew the contact and wiped himself out!!!
.. I think Rossi is all over Marquez’ tactics
here comes a Cam read option keep
maxwell sucks
you can’t defend that if your maxwell….most cb’s can’t. Opposing defenses sit back with their LB’s and let our crossers go because they are in position to stop it
so fucking easy
This is frustrating to watch.
panther recievers making plays
i could have ran that drag route
no you couldn’t you fat hawg
we have too many way too many white guys on offense
So do the patriots and they are doing ok
yeah how did Patrick chung get a ring ?
Stupid, stupid plays.
Theyre unknowns catch passes why cant our knowns?
We have knowns?
can we trade jordan matthews for philly brown?
I am so disappointed in JMatt this year. I thought he had a chance to take the next step and turn into a truly elite receiver. Instead he looks like the second coming of Billy McMullen.
that hurts
We refer to him here as HeWhoShallNotBeNamed
Oof.
I disagree, Billy McMullen never got open, when he was on the field at all.
Trying to strip give them 2-3 extra yards.
Jesus, theyr’e going to kill the clock with like 8 minutes left when they started.
ugh, well i had this pegged as a loss this year anyway but still.
finally they made a dumb personnel choice
watch us score a td and not convert the 2 lol
Nooooooooooooo
would be very apropos
Funny thing is on the Panthers fan site, they said if they could have one of our players….Cox and JMatthews were about 50/50….a lot of SEC fans in that region i guess
Understandable. They are loaded on D, but maybe even more desperate than us for a WR without Benjamin.
I’ll take Norman, Kuechly, Short or Newton if they really want Matthews.
Hicks is DROY.
Never got a chance to use our ST.
I bet we run stretch plays over and over again. And I bet Davis and Kuechly stop them over and over again.
I keep drinking and the girl doesn’t look better.
now who has the confidence they can do it, not me for one
Time to pull out the playcall that Chip’s been keeping in his back pocket that all these swing passes have been setting up.
swinging gate?
This is where the pass protection goes to shit.
Sam Bradford man.
Not very good pocket presence there.
So we were holding AND they still sacked him?
Looked like Tobin fell down and grabbed the guy. Oh and Bradford fumbled too.
Sigh
This team is simply bad. Just terrible.
So bad. I’m ready for sanchez fuck it at least he gets the ball out quickly
Gg.
This is what happens when you have shitty offensive linemen playing key roles on your team.
This team is soft. They got punched in the mouth and had no response.
Totally disagree . They fought.
Carolina is a flawed team but still top-to-bottom better than we are.
They’re much more physical.
ballgame folks
at this point who cares
You are here, writing comments. Either you care, or you are trolling.
FUCK.
We might luck out of this.
Can they challenge that?
Seems like it was allowed… but it’s in the last two minutes of the half!?
its not.
Duh, right, sorry.
can you challenge taht
What an ugly game. Chip better start thinking of ways to get better
A move to USC would do the trick.
He can’t get any WR right now. That is the issue IMO.
need better players gotta wait until next year for tat
We’ll get OL, but WR have been hurting us worse.
why, youre team sux chip
They just got lucky
At least foles gets you to the red zone. Every time we need a game saving drive SB falls on his face
get outta here, foles is terrible, who is sammy b going to throw it to? jmatt is done mentally it seems like. it’s not like miles austin is going to win a game for you.
line getting demolished. what we really need is sanchez
Or WR that can catch
What the hell are you watching? How about not take a sack or make the throw the sproles in front of him not behind.
Foles might be terrible. But then you have to ask yourself – given that Sam Bradford is a downgrade from Foles, what does that say about him?
please take advantage of this
i dont think you can abandon the run here.
Would be nice to see Matthews get a carry. But you know, Chip would rather give Murray another chance to break a stretch run.
run the clock, let go home
bradford sucks without a run game.
He did.
and receivers
I’m not sure the ball wasn’t tipped even after it was released
nevermind
pick 6 coming
yea im feeling a strip sack
Yup. Missing Jason Peters.
Can’t hold the ball forever.
The best play Jordan Matthews has made today is getting pass interfered with.
Hold the ball another 3 seconds
we NEED you to step up offense. and you’re shitting the bed.
OL goes to shit in crunch time
Sam Bradford doesn’t have it. He just doesn’t have it.
Moving backwards. Fitting
Oh, Matthews actually caught one!
eh, borrowed a catch from Ertz.
Ertz made up for it.
samns gotta know where the pressure will come from. chip needs to get him moving .
More drops.
An now Ertz drops one. Comedy of errors.
This offense is ridiculous
is there something about bradford throws that makes it more difficult to catch/
just wondering the same thing.
you gotta love this piece of crap team, this is on you lurie, you bum
… what? All Lurie has done is give people money to spend and stay out of the way. Can’t ask for more from an owner.
He swung for the fences. Lurie is a great owner.
5 drops. Matthews 2, Sproles 1, Huff 1, Ertz 1.
Bradford ripping the ball full speed from 10 yards away doesn’t help.
They get paid millions of dollars to catch the ball. If it hits your hands, catch the fucking ball.
Yeah.
Brady does it all the time, his guys catch it
Not like that he doesn’t.
Should’ve been caught. But Bradford’s receivers have always struggled to catch his throws.
Dude Brady rips the ball across the middle
WTF was Bradford doing there? He threw that ball way harder than it needed to be thrown. Some of the drops may be on him.
Oh Well
Turn out the lights
so no break out year for ertz, or matthews. maybe sam is throwing too hard?
please go to usc, chip
No
No
How is it possible for receivers to be so bad at, you know, their one job, catching?
No, you get paid to catch balls. If he throws hard, so what. Earn your god **** money.
I dont get how you guys can put this game on Bradford. Nobody gets seperation or catches the ball. He has had pressure all game.
Im not buying the throwing too hard argument…its the nfl..hes trying to get rid of it asap….if it hits your hands you should catch
Of course another drop to end the game
and another drop.
good night all
bradford deserves little criticism for this one, the receivers, receivers, and quite a few of them dropping balls
this is the 98 team all over again, wow they suck
fucking shit….gonna be a long two weeks
Can we at least get Stewart back under 100 yards?
wonder how ol tommy is gonna find the silver lining in this piece of crap team
Embarassing
We got beat by an undefeated team and had a shot until the 2- minute warning.
Did we really have a shot?
LoL ok
Yeah, when two comparable teams play, one loses.
no playmakers. you know those gus you gotta pay money to
the wr are terrible
Time to bench Bradford. Not because Sanchez will be better, but because if he doesn’t play any more we can recoup a fourth round pick from the Rams and at least do a little to salvage that flaming dog turd of a trade.
Is bradford suposed to catch the ball too. This game isnt his fault
sam has sucked tonight too,
I think anyone with some sense realizes that Bradford will struggle some this year as he get back up to speed. However most QB would struggle with these weapons and OL again such a good defense. Bradford isnt someone who could win you teh game right now, but her certainly didnt lose it for us. The 10 guys around his are more to blame tonight
The Bradford defenders keep saying this, week after week. But there is zero evidence that Bradford is “getting up to speed”. He looks just as bad now as he did at the beginning of the season. He was a bad quarterback in St. Louis too. He’s not good. Face it.
Im not expecting him to improve much this year. I just think a lot is being asked of him this year.
1) new teammates
2) new system
3) injuries
I just think an offseason of health where is able to work on his craft, another year of consistency with team and system COULD make a huge difference. I think today Sam should improvement over last week. If we can see some small improvement throughout the year I think he has a real chance
He’s 28 years old and has 60+ NFL starts. He’s a veteran player. These are excuses you make for a rookie, not for a player with Bradford’s profile.
Ah, hell no. I can give him the season, but if he doesn’t show strong improvement throughout this year, he’s gone. He is playing about the same as he always has in his career, which is bad.
I guess my point is that this is a bad team that most QBs would struggle with. Add his personal obstacles and its understandable he is struggling.
I do believe that if guys would start making plays for him instead of dropping passes we would all feel differnetly about him
Let me put it this way. Do you really think that guys would be dropping passes if it was Brady or Rodgers or Peyton from a few years ago back there? I don’t. Because they are good QBs and have proven they can deliver the ball to players of all levels.
today wasn’t his fault, bad drops, nobody ope, bad coaching , when getting straight pressure need some passing plays that gt him on the move
More like 5-6.
RBs were fine.
Kelce, Johnson, Tobin (near the end), and all the WR.
Only if it’s his fault the passes keep getting dropped. A little is on him — they are a little off — but otherwise Bradford was pretty good tonight. May have been his best game. Need to convert in the red zone.
If 25-44 for 197 yards, no TDs, and an INT is your “best game”, you’re not a good quarterback.
If catches were not dropped, subtract the INT and add one or two TDs. Yes, he did not throw downfield too much today. But we moved the ball just fine.
I’m far from convinced that Bradford is a good QB. And some of the drop issues may be on him too — throws a bit too hard sometimes. But I think he is haltingly getting better. May not ever get there, but we are committed this season to find out.
Bradford has missed plenty of makeable throws in this game, has taken bad sacks, and threw yet another interception. I’m ready to conclude that this is one pumpkin that’s never going to turn into a golden carriage. It’s time to move on.
How many drops were there? We’ve averaged 2/game to this point, I believe.
There were at least 4x that in this game.
6. Matthews 2, Sproles 1, Ertz 1, Huff 1, Austin 1. And at least 4 of them were killers.
I doubt it will end up as 6. So Sam was 25/44. Say 4 drops. A few understandable misses because of pressure at the end. Anyway, looks like about 5.0 Y/A. Awful.
No, the passes hit their hands and then ended up on the ground.
OK, I didn’t see it. Just remember a drop is a pass the receiver should catch with ordinary effort, not something requiring special ability.
One of Matthews’ drops did not end up on the ground.
I wish I could watch the all 22. Is the lack of vertical pasing on Chip or Sam?
everyone, ol gotta give more time, need wrs that can get open, no decent wrs going against best cb in the league right now
can’t go downfield when you’re taking 5 sacks
You mean the interception that hit matthews in the chest before he dropped it yet again
So this week it wasn’t his fault. But a majority of his league leading INT total were his fault. He’s sucked this year, stop trying to sugar coat it.
I wasnt sugar coating it…it was weird that you brought up a bogus INT in your arguement against Sam. The fact that he took care of the ball shows improvement
I said he threw “yet another INT”… as in, he has thrown many INTs this year, a majority of which were his fault. The fact that this particular one wasn’t doesn’t absolve him from the fact that he didn’t play well in this game and hasn’t played well all year.
“Took care of the ball”?!?!? Really, that’s the bar you want to set? That’s success if you’re A.J. Feeley or Jay Fiedler. If you’re a $13 million player who cost a premium asset to acquire and is ostensibly a franchise-caliber talent at QB, it is not.
Three of the INTs were dropped passes which should have been caught. The INT problem was really just the previous two games… and those were inaccurate passes for the most part, not bad decisions. That problem did need to be fixed but I didn’t see the short passes tonight. Behind the receiver too much yes, but it looks like he did work on stuff.
There may be something in the way Bradford delivers the ball that makes it hard to catch. We had a few drops last year, but nothing like this. I’d try Sanchez from here on for the draft pick and as the only chance…
Night all. Chip must go.
Not yet. Maybe he’ll find a receiver.
A first second and third rounder. He can’t find a receiver cause he isn’t a good evaluator.
and a third rounder
If they kept djax and resigned Maclin they wouldn’t have had to draft any of these losers on the team.
Hahahahahahahhahahahaahahhahahahaahahah. This steaming pile of excriment is back. Lololololololol!
he must be the loneliest guy in the world
I missed you! No comments for 14 days?!
I listened to the 4th Q on the way home. Why did they kick a field goal when it was like 4th and goal at the one?
I’m embarassed to be a fan of this team.
#droppedballs and I am not talking about going through puberty….Their OL got push against us all game…and our OL…is just barely average…I get that in FA there was not any OL prospects which were worth overpaying but sometimes the market is in your favor and sometimes its not…if we can’t draft the guys at the right spot and value then we have to do something in order to improve the depth etc….oh yeah….the QB move is not working out and I don’t think I need to see a larger sample size regardless of our OL problems….This is an 8-8 team….
eh traditionally, teams in this position melt down or recover. No 8-8 about it.
look at the hapless NFC East opponents we still have to play…8-8 is possible…don’t see a recovery getting to 10 wins…even if Peters plays again this year…
Cam Newton just seems so unlikeable on the field. I know nothing about him off the field, but man, what a sore winner. Not an easy guy to root for with his bullshit.
very vain and self sbsorbed
This team the players and the coaches are PATHETIC
did it take you two weeks to think that up?
Lol. You are the running joke of the board! Haha. Where were you for 2 weeks? Hahahahahah.
I like how you waited until we for sure lost. Lol. What a joke.
Just a reminder about ignoring trolls. Evidently this sort of weather brings out all sorts of vermin.
The most fun of the game was watching Bradford get hit so hard so often. Way to cut Mathis.
Lol
You are such a joke. I only trash the team when they lose. Blah blah blah. Lol.
Fk that Cam Newton n his smug face
Its gonna be like this the rest of the year, with this offense, below average if that
I am sure it hurts Howie Roseman to see the team like this but….I am sure he has visions of a conversation with Jeff Lurie saying….”I told you so”…..
whats the point…just kneel
That was the most pointless, useless, and horrible listless set of short passes to end the game.
Agreed…
Why dont these commentators just suck the Panthers off sheesh
They are 6-0
I got a positive though, I don’t believe kelce had a bad snap tonight, so maybe ol chipper can build on that
The missed block by Braman just sort of tells the story of the game for Eagles fans….ughh….fail….
cya in a couple of weeks.
Playcalling was terrible. Drops were when we needed plays the most. Penalties came at the worst moments. Just one failure after another. Soft team.
Playcalling was abysmal.
this game was on the wrs
It’s not their fault they’re not good. It’s the GM’s fault that backups are the #1 and #2 receivers.
i wish we were 0-7
I can’t believe Bradford isn’t putting up better numbers with two vets like Riley Cooper and Miles Austin as his primary receivers.
Cut djax extend Cooper. Makes sense
There is plenty of suckitude to go around for sure.
Chip the GM is hurting Chip the HC.
I like both Chips, but the misallocation of resources (Murray) and poor draft picks (Jordan Matthews and Josh Huff with much better talent available) is putting Chip the HC in really bad position.
Chip the HC didn’t have a stellar game.
And agholor
Agholor might turn out to be good.
based on what indications?
He’s fast and can catch.
Matthews and Huf arent all on Chip. We dont know what he would have done if he were calling the shots during that draft.
How is huff from Oregon not on Chip. Also Chip wanted Matthews in first found. Howie told him we could get him on the second. So yes they are both chop Kelly picks
Sorry to agree with the troll, but yes they are both on Chip. Huff is an Oregon guy. Matthews Kelly admitted himself he wanted in the first round.
So uhhh, now that the trolls will be around for 2 weeks.
I love this board, but not okay with the stress of idiocy. Will miss you guys over the next couple of weeks.
See ya later screwey. See ya in saint looey
Hahahahaha good one jokester!
Not a moment in the entire game was I worried the WAGLWS would turn it around.Chip has got to go. He destroyed this team. They are saying Peters is our best offensive player. The Eagles are a joke
No. You are the joke. A poor one at that. Lol.
Yes, you did. Otherwise you would have been posting sooner.
TATE is greater than this
Out classed in all 3 phases. Pretty much as I thought it would go. Hoped the defense would have a better showing, but thems the breaks.
Defense was OK. They got the turnovers. Offense moved the ball. Not converting in the red zone was our undoing. And the dropped passes… several of which were in the red zone.
I was more concerned with the man-handling at the line of scrimmage. The turn-overs were nice, but they were fluky save the great pick by Jenkins.
What a perfect day.Chip Kelly looks horrible
Jordan Matthews can’t catch. That’s kind of an issue for a receiver.
Yeah. He is awful right now.
I would’ve called you out on that comment, but you are totally right
I wish it wasn’t. I really wish it wasn’t. I expected so much from him this year.
Proves you are an idiot
I love who this comment came from. Hahaha. Youre such a good joke.
go eat a pile of dirt, I own you
It’s cute when children think adults are stupid.
His hands were crap at the beginning of last season, but then he seem to have resolved it as the season wore on. I expected a lot from him too. I have no idea why he has regressed
Yup and he should have never been drafted in the second round. I always said he was the second coming of Billy McMullen.
The problem is that it’s always been a problem for him.
It was in college as well.
I don’t know if Chip just thought he could coach him up or what, but it was all over his tape and all over his numbers.
I am the senate
Bottom line is that we needed SOMEONE, ANYONE to step up and make a play for the offense. No one did.
EDIT: In the passing game. Yes I know Mathews had the big run.
ryan matthews had a big play, but he got benched for that
I meant the in the passing game.
Disagree. Ryan Matthews was a beast. Too bad he only got to carry the ball 6 times.
Sorry, I meant in the passing game.
Austin did
You actually had a post that had truth to it, and didn’t have the tone of an end of the world cultist’s with it.
Your slipping bro.
We’re all discussing how horrible the offense is – which it is. Lost in the discussion is how great the running game was. 30 carries for 177 yards and 1TD. That’s almost 6ypc. Matthews was 6-97 whereas Murray was 18-65. So we ran the ball very effectively and forced 3 turnovers. Somehow we managed to score only 19 points.
Every time we needed to extend a drive a WR dropped a pass. Sometimes Ertz.
Take the huge run from Matthews out. Then what? Take Matthew’s small number of total carries out, and where are you then? It ain’t good man. It really ain’t good. The wrong guy is starting.
God, Philly sports is trash right now.
Is the only thing we have to look forward to “watching Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor develop”?
The Flyers at least look like they could be better this year.
“watching Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor develop” is pretty awesome actually. You should try it. Noel’s offensive improvement has been much more than I would have hoped for, and Okafor enters the NBA with a repertoire of moves that most NBA post players take a career to develop.
No, I agree!
Bigtime fan of what Hinkie is doing.
Just bummed that’s all we have to look forward to.
I’m on the fence about Okafor though. Will take him a while to adjust to NBA length and athleticism, assuming he ever does.
True enough, but it’s a lot harder to teach players the skills Okafor already has than it is to put some weight on a 19 year old.
Yeah, just tough to make them taller and able to jump higher as well.
Yeah, he’s not an above the rim player. We’ll know a lot more in a few months.
Still in it but if the offense doesnt pick up, it wont matter…..
Receiver best case future receiver scenario is Agholor turns out to be good and Matthews is an adequate slot receiver. Then you still need another starting outside receiver. It’s not looking like Huff is ever going to fill that role.
Should have nabbed Jalen Strong.
Has he done anything aside from catching a lucky hail mary?
Has Huff or Matthews done much more? He was a 3rd rounder and still a rookie.
Yup. Chip’s decisions to cut Jackson and let Maclin walk and replace them with draft picks have blown up spectacularly. But given that they’re just two instances in what appears to be a litany of incompetent personnel decisions I can’t get too worked up exclusively about them.
What if they would have worked though? The tune would be completly different.
What if the sky was really green. Then the sky would be green. Get it?
What if you were just a joke? Oh wait…..
hindsight is 20/20 but what are you going to do
I gave Chip the benefit of the doubt on Jackson. But pretty much every other personnel decision he’s made, I questioned at the time. Often I seemed to be one of the few skeptics left. So while I’m not going to say “I told you so” (because I didn’t – I said the jury was out on the moves and there was reason to doubt their wisdom, not that they were outright bad), I’m not going to be accused of 20-20 hindsight either.
more good moves than bad.
Yeah, if Chip’s moves had worked, no one would be complaining.
Im all for trading for Josh Gordon next year. We need some talent on the cheap to get this team back on track
Same.
spent a first and a second on wrs, not sure what else you do really.
And a third.
You pick the right ones
I think Matthews will be fine. He’s in a funk right now. But Huff..nope. Not seeing it. Hopefully Agoholor is good in the future.
Not sure, more drops by jmatt vs opportunity for huff but ya it’s all bad. They need qb and a true 1
Why is JM in the slot again?
Why should he be an outside WR?
On the outside he could at least create space for the receivers who can catch… if we get some.
Could concern himself less with all of the read required of a slot. His size is an asset in the slot but finding the holes in coverage is more he traditional slot role. His size is more of a benefit on the the outside.
Basically because he is struggling and it could help..
No his size is not a benefit at all since he doesn’t use it. Tall but plays like Djax with the ball in the air. His struggles are his concrete hands that needs to be used to smack himself every time he body catches the ball.
Jordan Mattews to DJax comparison. Calm down and think about what you just said.
The kid is going to get past it and be really good here for a log time. Just when is the question. They don’t talk about turning the switch in for no reason.
You’re delusional if you think Matthews attacks the ball.
You keep putting words in my mouth. That’s not very nice.
size mismatch against slot corners, speed against ilbs
I am the senate
Maybe Thurmond should play WR since apparently he’s the only one who can really catch.
Good chance to step away from football for a couple weeks.
Season is gonna be a roller coaster, but ultimately not sure how this team wins meaningful games with Sam Bradford throwing the ball to Jordan Matthews and Miles Austin.
They also won’t win meaningful games with the DL giving up 200+ yards on the ground.
And if it sounds like I’m being particularly hard on them, I am. If you’re supposed to be one of the best position groups in the league then you’re going to be held to a higher standard.
We nearly ran for that many as well.
And forced more TOs.
Don’t think D was the issue, but see you’re point.
first big boy team they played
It’s going to be horrible around here. IgglesBitch, here we come!
Hardy on sidelines, just saw that.. Trouble in big D, we have that at least
Cowboys dismissing it as “LEADERSHIP”. Boy I tell ya.
Haha saw that
For the love of god someone ask Deuce why mathews doesn’t get more carries. Chip’s response is always Deuce handles that.
Chip said he was “in a bunch, they just happened to throw on those plays.”
Jason Peters says he’ll be back for Dallas after the bye. Suffering back spasms.
(as a person who has had back spasms due to a work injury, they’re goddamn terrible).
man did i call that
So…. rumors say that the Redskins are going to cut DeSean Jackson next year and make him a FA…
yeah would be nice if he was here
He could get back to work on breaking all of the Eagles receiving records.
I can pretty much GUARANTEE we beat Dallas in two weeks without Romo.
Just not sure it means anything.
I guess I’m one of the only ones that’s actually pretty happy with tonight. We showed up and didn’t completely embarrass ourselves against a pretty good team. No horrific interceptions, bizarre fumbles, incompetently blocked running plays that go for negative 7 yards. Was just the drops really, and that one really sad whiff by Byron Maxwell on Mike Tolbert.
Otherwise we at least played respectably, so I’m happy. It’s a big step up from where we were a few weeks ago.
I’m kind of with you. You go into a good team’s house and you’re in it to the end, that’s really not that bad. It’s just too bad that… well, I was never a fan of the Bradford trade.
I can’t agree. When the Eagles aren’t a contender, I want to see promising signs for the future. So far what I see is:
– We don’t know who our QB will be next year.
– Our three young WRs are all not meeting even reasonable expectations.
– DeMarco Murray may be ok, but the Eagles paid way too much for him.
– The offensive line is a shambles with only two guys, Johnson and Kelce, who seem like legitimate future starers. (excluding Peters because he’s old and will retire before too long). And Kelce is undersized and overrated.
This team needs a complete overhaul on offense.
yup, think ertz can leave when his rookie deal is up
Ags may be decent and jmatt can flash at times maybe. Huff can be role player but qb huge question mark. Agree with everything else, the drops will continue to mask avg qb play. Decent between the 20s but bad in Red zone and who knows why all Bradfords receivers can’t catch, we sound like Rams fans now. What I feared after trade and some of chips redundancy and use of personnel baffles me at times. Ryan Matthews mostly but he deferred to Duce.
yeah when you’re losing i’m goig to the guy avg 16ypc no 3ypc
sammy b 24/46 205 yds and a int
Like 8 drops… Most would have extend drives and one was a TD
cam, still a celebrated mvp candidate, goes for 14/24 for under 200 yards. matthews avg over 16 per carry, and murray 3.6. murray gets 18 carries and mathews 6. keep murray at 18 and run more, pass less than 46 times.
but of course you could say bradford and cam throw for almost the same yardage, but cam only needed 24 throws to do it, or only 14 completions. so bradford and offense def has issue with yards per completion.
panthers had a ton of big plays not sure how that happened really
That reverse killed us. I don’t think they drive on his that early in the game
slant routes across the middle of the field.
against bmax most likely, they must have watched the falcons game.
I was at this game tonight. Panthers had some well designed plays that worked for them. We needed our offense to do something and they just couldn’t, and can’t. They didn’t look stupid, so I guess that’s a positive. But this offense just doesn’t work. I don’t care what stats somebody wants to throw out there, they can’t impose their will on a team, and they can’t score when they really need to.
wont win many games with 8 drops. 1 for and TD and another in the redzone. The others would have extended drives.
Too much east to west running tonight too
can’t go downhill all the time, they’re dline is way better than our o-line
No counter or misdirection.. Maybe some off tackle. Those sweeps were killing us
stats aren’t good either. did it just look like people weren’t getting open?
It looked like the same old running plays and passing plays we always run. The receivers were covered and/or dropping passes. I saw them run 4 verticals once in the second half, everyone was covered and they threw it underneath – it worked for a first down but they never went to it again.
They keep running that damn WR screen that NEVER works.
Very frustrating to watch – you never have the feeling that they are going to be effective.
They should make Chip Kelly watch all of Andy Reid’s games so he might figure out that screens don’t work
yeah i don’t understand the point of those plays at all. but when you’re running 2 TE sets you’re limited otherwise
Sam Badford
Who’s that
just zero confidence watching him play
def a facilitator not a play maker.