Awful

Posted: November 22nd, 2015 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 250 Comments »

The Eagles played their worst game of the year. Tampa played their best. That’s how you get a 45-17 result.

The defense was horrible. Just horrible. Tampa had 355 yards at halftime and then went on a 9:47 drive to open the 3rd quarter. They did whatever they wanted. Very disappointing since the D had played so well this season.

The offense started great, but then stalled. Once the score got out of hand, Sanchez had no chance.

The Eagles are now 4-6.

Since getting out to a good lead last week the team has been outscored 62-20.

Ouch.

250 Comments on “Awful”

1 Bob Brewer said at 4:21 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
This just feels hopeless.
2 DarthBanner said at 4:24 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
That’s what a poorly coached, poorly constructed football team looks like.
3 Buge Halls said at 4:25 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Watching a little of the post-game on Eagles.com and and they kept saying “you don’t want Sanchez to throw that much”
Then why the hell (wanted to type a stronger word there) is he on the roster? QBs are supposed to throw the ball – that’s their job! If he can’t do it consistently, show him the door!
4 Ark87 said at 4:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
there’s maybe 10 human beings in the world where you can put a game squarely on their shoulders and tell them to go win. If you don’t have one of those guys, you need to give a lot of help to the guy you do have. In those situations where the game situation takes away the run game, you’d better have a great line or great receivers.
5 oreofestar said at 4:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m ready for the draft going full Sixers and rooting for losses don’t care if that makes me a “bad fan” or whatever thats what is best for us right now we are too bad to try and pretend to be competitive
6 Fufina said at 4:48 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Kinda the same, we need a QB, a WR and 2-3 new OL, plus plenty of depth on the D + secondary starters depending on FA.
We don’t have a lot of cap for a full rebuild if we extend Thurmond/Cox, so is a lot of draft work needed.
7 oreofestar said at 4:50 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And dont really have ammo to move up for a great QB cuz we lost of high 2nd for no reason
8 Fufina said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Well if we suck out the rest of the year we will be in the mix. If we give a win to the Lions next week we can be in the No.1 draft pick chase… Chargers/Browns can both get 2 more wins.
9 dillinja said at 4:28 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Think that was the end of the Chip Kelly era, whether he leaves now, the end of the year, or later. Reminds me of 2012, the way the team is playing now.
10 Mitchell said at 4:29 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Terrible game. Bad team. Im really conflicted if I want Chip back foe the first time. Im wondering if I even want him to draft a qb next year. So many questions compared to the end of the 3rd preseason game.
11 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
He will be back,..
12 dillinja said at 4:33 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If they go 4-12 or 5-11? I don’t think so.
13 oreofestar said at 4:35 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I mean wed probably still not get rid of him….who would we go get right now? would we fire him a year after making him God? I mean I would love for them to do that but I doubt it
14 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
He will be here… Not sure if that’s a good thing, but he will be here
15 oreofestar said at 4:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yeah, next year is it though….another bad season and hes gone for sure
16 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I would agree with that…. But LUrie seems like he errors on the side of stability, so who knows
17 Buge Halls said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Regardless of the record, he’ll be here next year unless he decides to leave on his own.
18 sew737 said at 4:29 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m being honest here. Does this team win another game this year?
19 oreofestar said at 4:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
probably somewhere…no better than 6-10 though
20 Mitchell said at 4:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And if they dont, do you want Chip running the draft?
21 oreofestar said at 4:31 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I mean we kind of have to give him another year unfortunately …unless the Briles pipe dream happens
22 Mitchell said at 4:36 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I know.
23 sew737 said at 4:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Where do we pick with 4 wins?
24 oreofestar said at 4:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
top 10 somewhere….Paxton…?
25 anon said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
sad we suck in a bad year for qbs
26 Mitchell said at 4:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
You never really know though.
27 ac134spectre said at 5:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Which leads to bad second year… any hope there?
28 dillinja said at 4:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
possibly not
29 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I think it will be a struggle to get to 7 wins,,
30 808 Eagle said at 4:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Patriots are going to kill them.
31 sew737 said at 4:33 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Fire Chip Kelly the GM……worst last 8 quarters of football I ve seen
32 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:33 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I have a much bigger problem with Chip the Coach, than Chip the GM
33 sew737 said at 4:37 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
well it seems like Dream team all over again. I agree with you ..the team is soft. Fire him as Gm and maybe he resigns as coach.
34 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Id try to trade chip and our 1st to the Texans for Deandre Hopkins LOL
35 sew737 said at 4:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
i want Obrien as coach
36 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:45 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Hell NO! He might be the only coach making a bigger mess than Chip. I would have fired Obrien after playing musical chairs with his QBs the first month of the season, That hack OBrien would be lucky to be a QB coach after the mess he made..
37 anon said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
it’s crazy that hopkins is just carrying that whole team. gotta be #2 behind antonio brown.
38 sew737 said at 5:00 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Well he is also a very good coach…Hey he made Mcgloin a QB… gosh and the guy is on an nfl roster.. Kelly traded away our stars and by the way thank god we traded for Alonzo. I know shady stinks Chip has to realize guys are here playing to feed their families not playing for scholarships… who cares we r stuck with winnie the pooh (chip) anyway
39 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Not interested in college success… Moron got rid of Fitzpatrik who is having an Ok year for the Jets, so that he can start a new garbage QB every week to start the season, basically putting his team in panick mode with no continuity right from the start…. He damn sure HASNT done anything to warrant a pro HC job after he gets fired from Texans
..
Needs to go back to College, or work his way back up from Offensive Coordinator
40 oreofestar said at 5:08 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Deandre is filthy though, keeping them relevant by himself…he should be their coach quite honestly….I wish we could have a guy like THAT 🙁
41 sew737 said at 5:26 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
He did that with the cheatriots
42 daveH said at 5:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
(you lost me on the TG we traded for Alonzo” .. is that because you think kiko is good or because we all the fear that chip would’ve traded our best RB for no one ?)
43 oreofestar said at 4:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
You are better off taking Chip out of the deal…he has negative trade value
44 Media Mike said at 6:11 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
*7
the first quarter vs. Miami was good.
45 xeynon said at 4:34 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m officially out on trying to make the playoffs with this garbage heap.
Time to do what we did in the final 6 games of Reid’s last season: start building for next year.
1.)I want to see Marcus Smith on the field. Let’s give him one last shot to prove himself before we officially declare him a bust and cut him in the offseason.
2.)Start giving guys like Rowe, Agholor, Burton, Reynolds, etc. more reps. Yes, they’ll make mistakes that cost the team. But unlike the veterans in front of them, they at least have the potential to improve and can benefit from the experience.
3.)Lane Johnson moves to LT permanently. I think we’ve reached the point where we can’t count on Peters going forward, and Lane should start settling in at the spot he’ll hopefully be manning for the next 10 years.
4.)Scan other teams’ practice squads for promising talent. No need to keep limited veterans like Maragos, Braman, and Ajiratutu on the roster at this point.
Time to look forward.
46 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:35 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I don’t think Huff or Agholor can possibly play worst than Miles Austin… Ags was open today, they just didn’t throw it to him much.
47 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:38 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yeah I’m not blaming the youmg WR’s… huff finally makes a big play on the first drive, and I don’t think he had another ball thrown to him all game..
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AGHOLAR caught every ball I saw thrown to him all game… If they are waiting for WR to get WIDE OPEN, the NFL don’t work that way. You gotta throw it to covered WR and give them a chance to make the play
48 anon said at 4:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
they don’t look outside, which is the opposite of last year, all passes are shallow to WRs or inside to TEs
49 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yup… Sanchez eyes were short or to the TE all day
50 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:35 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I don’t disagree with you at all, but unfortumately its not going to happen… He will try to win every game with his best players… If he didn’t go young and tank when Mariota was in the draft and we weren’t making the playoffs, he won’t now..
51 Buge Halls said at 4:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yep – the same as he did in the meaningless Giants game week 17 last year. Put the kids in and lets see what we’ve got.
52 Media Mike said at 6:11 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m with that.
53 George said at 4:34 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
After the first few weeks, I was skeptical of chip the GM, now I’m seriously doubting chip the coach. Poor scheme, poot execution, getting predicatble, and no heart or pride is all on the coaching staff. Rebuild time.
54 Ark87 said at 4:36 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I don’t think Chip should be GM. Not because he’s especially bad at picking players, but because he needs to focus on making the team better in every other aspect. Schematically it seems like we’ve been stuck in neutral for the past 3 years (which is not good in a fast changing nfl). Seems like he’s banked everything on getting the guys he wants in here to take what he’s doing to the next level. He himself is going to really have to focus on taking his craft to the next level this off season. I don’t think he needs the distraction of being a GM.
55 JJVJack said at 4:38 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
We suck, this is what a team looks lIke when you give all your talent away. I would say I am rooting to lose out. The problem with that is Chip is still running everything. I keep saying Chip has NO concept of value. This is the result of that and His Ego is to big to see His own faults. He will not be fired after this year so I will get use to it. Because I will always be a fan
56 ACViking said at 4:39 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Re: Kelly’s Post-Game Remarks
No mention of the coaches being out-coached.
Just that the players didn’t get it done.
57 anon said at 4:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
our reprters are terrible in pcs. but chip repeats the same thing every game.
58 Ark87 said at 4:48 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
unfortunately “execute better than the other team” is not an acceptable game-plan. You can’t go into a game expecting your team to be more talented and better coached.
59 xeynon said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
This is really bad.
We all made fun of Reid for his “I’ve got to do a better job” routine, but the players loved him and remained loyal to him because of it. Remember how many of them came back to salute him on his way out?
Chip’s “my way or the highway” approach will not go over well if he doesn’t win. If he throws his players under the bus over and over, it could turn into a full-scale mutiny.
60 dillinja said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Don’t you feel that might have already happened? I think Chip’s downfall is his inability to handle professional players as people, which has definitely affected his personnel decisions negatively.
61 Joe Minx said at 5:25 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Whatever. He’s writing his own ticket at this point.
62 Fufina said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
So does Howie knock on Lurie’s door and say wanna think about giving me my old job back?
On a serious note:
1) not having a high No.2 pick next year will suck, and is looking really expensive at this point.
2) at what point do you start to hoping for a higher draft pick? If we loose to the Lions next week i will be all aboard the tank train.
63 anon said at 4:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
me too
64 oreofestar said at 4:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Im already aboard…have been since last week….ready for the draft
65 xeynon said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If Paxton Lynch is the QB prospect of choice among Eagles fans, how about “Pack it in for Paxton”?
66 Fufina said at 4:58 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I like Goff as well so there are 2 at least to look/lust over.
67 xeynon said at 4:58 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Well I already said we could also “drop off for Goff”.
68 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Put me on team Goff as well.
69 bubqr said at 4:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Now that the season is pretty much over, the Eagles should try to imitate the Sixers from this point forward. Let’s see what our young guys can do.
70 daveH said at 4:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
why because chip what to do in the draft? or how to integrate new players ?
71 bubqr said at 4:48 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m actually not 100% sure Chip is going to be there next year. Regardless of my opinion on whether or not he should, that kinda looks like a team that did quit on his coach.
72 Fufina said at 4:50 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Well is first really bad loss of the year that looked like team threw in the towel.
Is hard for a team to be asked to give 100% commitment and then play like this and get these kinds of results.
73 ChoTime said at 5:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Imitate the Sixers because they are successful?
74 ian_no_2 said at 4:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Russell Shepherd – the Eagles should have a ‘Cut For Riley Cooper Hall of Fame’ shrine at the Linc.
75 JoeBlow said at 4:48 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
cybill sheperd could have gotten open against our secondary
76 ACViking said at 4:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Re: Key Numbers
2-5: Eagles’ record in their last seven home games.
5-9: Eagles record in their last 14 games.
65-20: Opponents outscoring Eagles in the last 7 quarters.
________________
Discouraging trends
77 808 Eagle said at 4:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Ever since last Thanksgiving, the Eagles have been on a downward slide. One year is enough to determine that the Chip experiment is over.
78 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:52 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I don’t know what it means, but Facts are that chip has ONLY had NFL success with FOles as his QB… Not pumping up FOles, but those are the facts
79 anon said at 4:53 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
well i’m sure he can get foles back
80 808 Eagle said at 4:53 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Wasn’t that when Desean was still here?
81 ACViking said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Ruben Frank made that same observation after the Carolina game.
Foles: 14-4
Other QBs: 10-14
82 Fufina said at 4:56 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Foles with Maclin (would be less cap this year), we would have more wins at this point and have had some better games… i guarantee it. oh and a 2nd round pick next year.
83 oreofestar said at 4:57 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
oh yeah for sure Foles isnt great but him, Maclin and the 2nd means we are probably 6-4 with more picks
84 anon said at 5:16 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
nah, no ST or DEF TDs that’s what saved foles last year
85 anon said at 4:57 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
well i’m sure we can pay him $7m next year and get him back, didn’t take long for him to losehis job
86 oreofestar said at 4:52 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I mean I’m done….he makes awful decisions as a coach and GM…lets go of stars for no reason then overpays injury prone player….threw away a 2nd for nothing, has a total of 4 offensive plays…I am done, we have gotten worse and worse
87 Media Mike said at 6:07 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m steeling myself to the fact that Lurie ain’t going to make the fire vs. extend decision until 2016 concludes.
88 Mitchell said at 4:51 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Whens the draft? Lol
89 Media Mike said at 6:07 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
right now!
http://www.first-pick.com/
90 ACViking said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Watching the Eagles’ offense right now, I can’t help but think of what John Wooden told all his teams:
Be quick . . . but don’t hurry.
91 808 Eagle said at 4:59 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Sanchez needs to listen to those words.
92 dan quisenberry said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Draft OL. Yep, I’m already talking about the draft.
93 Fufina said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And a QB, and a legitimate outside No.1 WR, And a RT, and 2x guards… and whatever you need on defense.
94 808 Eagle said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Seems like a total overhaul to me.
95 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:59 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I still havent given up on Ags. I’ m thinking a new coach puts Matthews on the outside and Huff in the slot
96 Fufina said at 5:05 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Matthews has stepped back this year and has looked ineffective outside when not in the space that the slot gives. He just struggles to get separation against high end outside CB’s.
Huff has great YAK but is more of a No.4 WR type guy/gadget plays.
Agaholor has not shown much so far but with injuries is still really early, but has not looked like he has that Xfactor. Cooper is gone soon as season ends.
97 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 5:08 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Ags was open today. And the guys that matthews has had trouble with have been some good CBs. He has shown up ever since the bye.
I think the problem is all he runs are crossing routes. They never send him downfeild.
98 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:22 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I would love to see what it looks like if chip had to call plays with this personnel and a pro style offense, instead of such a limited offense that he keeps insisting on
99 anon said at 5:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
i think ryan day is gone after this year. qbs are terrible.
100 oreofestar said at 5:00 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
WR is legit not as big a deal as the others…you can try and get by the Nelson, Matthews, Huff and a mid rounder for a little while…OL and QB are dire needs
101 Mitchell said at 5:03 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Agholor can be a number 1. The best number 1 in tje league? No but definately top 10.
102 oreofestar said at 5:05 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
yeah he can be…you need to see them because that wr core can potentially be good the OL and QB is what REALLY needs to be worked on NOW
103 Fufina said at 5:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
WR play has been really really bad this year… like worse than OL and maybe even QB.
104 oreofestar said at 5:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Its been awful I agree but I see enough there to not spend ANOTHER high pick there unless the board dictates it…the OL can not be ignored any longer same with QB
105 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 5:12 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I think they have been much better after the bye…. except Cooper and Austin… I don’t think Huff and Ags get enough targets
106 oreofestar said at 5:14 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
In my mind I am less worried about Nelson, Jordan and Huff going forward than a 60 year old JP and whoever the hell we start at guard
107 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:17 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Tobin is garbage, shame on anyone who thinks otherwise
108 Media Mike said at 6:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
First Pick is up and running if you want to run a few of your own drafts.
109 The original AG said at 7:11 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
It’s not letting me pick an offensive or defensive coordinator, which are our biggest needs.
110 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m done with Chip… he got too cute for his own good
111 anon said at 4:55 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
cute how so?
112 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:57 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
All the moves… I gave it a chance but it looks like this team has quit.
113 oreofestar said at 4:58 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Paxton is my dude….my only dude really as far as QBs go so we need to lose out if we want to try and get in the top 5 and not get raped in trades
114 Media Mike said at 6:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m more of a Goff guy, but I like Lynch as well. Will we suck enough to get a chance at either?
115 oreofestar said at 6:11 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Where do you think they are going…we should be top 10 but I don’t think we will be top 5 unfortunately
116 Media Mike said at 6:12 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Depends on how poorly QB needy teams fall and/or who has a major desire to trade up.
117 oreofestar said at 6:20 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If season ended today we would be 10th with 4 Realistic QB destinations in front of us, we are going to have to increase our tanking efforts
118 Media Mike said at 6:21 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And we lack a 2nd rounder to use to trade up!
119 oreofestar said at 6:24 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
YAY!
120 shah8 said at 6:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I think that neither Goff or Lynch are really all that. Only good play is a second (oops) for C. Jones and develop him.
121 Media Mike said at 6:35 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Put me down as “ABSOLUTELY NOT” on Jones.
But I’m good at looking at Wentz or Kiel in the 3rd if we don’t want to go QB in round 1.
122 Mitchell said at 7:12 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Seriously? Does he even play anymore? Yuck.
123 Buge Halls said at 5:02 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
It’s time for a veteran GM in Philly – no more of this rookie parade with Howie then Chip. There are plenty of proven GMs that know how to build a team. Unfortunately, we’re looking at another 3 – 5 year re-build.
124 oreofestar said at 5:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Howie can be the GM again I am cool with that…Chip has to leave though….IDK why I am still lusting after college coaches like Briles but I want someone
125 Buge Halls said at 5:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I think Chip is overloaded – go back to just HC and see how he performs.
126 Media Mike said at 6:03 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I wish he was that humble.
127 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:08 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Like I always said.. Howie will sit in the backgrounds, and whenever chip leaves, whether it’s next year or 7 years later, Howie will end up getting his GM job back, and Howie will end up hiring chips future replacement… Basically he is being paid to be held on Retainer Til Chip leaves and he gets his job back
128 Fufina said at 5:08 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Howie has a good GM track record… has managed cap well, signed flexible contracts and has a good draft record when he was in control.
Maybe there is someone better but i imagine if Chip leaves (he wont be fired) i imagine he is next man up… Lurie is paying him $1mil+ a year for a reason.
129 oreofestar said at 5:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yeah I dont feel like looking for a GM and coach when we at least have a solid GM who can help look for a coach
130 Buge Halls said at 5:36 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I agree that he’s a great numbers guy, I just don’t think his talent selection is all that much better than Kelly’s.
131 Media Mike said at 6:03 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I hear you, but two things;
1 – I like Howie
2 – A new GM would mean Chip is fired.
132 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:02 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Only thing worse than Eagles looking like shit is having to hear the mumbling, bumbling idiot Governor give his analysis after the game… And get Jillian Meale off my damn TV. You Hire some WORTHLESS Chick to read Tweets on the air? Fuck off
..
And don’t let me start on that Geppetoe looking imbecile Elliot Parker
133 Buge Halls said at 5:03 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m glad I live outside the market!
134 Isaac said at 5:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If you don’t want to listen, why watch?
I don’t get that.
135 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Fuck off
136 oreofestar said at 5:10 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Chill Geagle
137 Dave M. said at 5:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
This would not be so bad if this team was taking a step back so it could go three steps forward. However, especially on the offensive side of the ball, there are not many young players with upside to make anyone reasonably conclude that there will be any marked improvement. Of course, after today, the same could be said for the defense.
138 anon said at 5:14 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Eagles through 10 games:
2015: 4-6
2014: 7-3
2013: 5-5
2012: 3-7
2011: 4-6
139 Media Mike said at 6:01 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
This team has been utterly unenjoyable for the last 5 years except for the Foles takeover of 2013.
140 fran35 said at 9:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Wow. My sentiment exactly. But listening to many, Chip has actually proven something and deserves latitude.
141 anon said at 5:14 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
flacco torn acl
142 Media Mike said at 6:00 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Shame. Just once I’d like to see that be Eli.
143 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:16 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Cox sounds Embarressed and pissed off.. “Total embarressment starting with me, I gotta go home and look myself im the mirror, total embarressment, total embarressment, Next question, Total Embarressment”… Appreciate the young pup coming to his own and taking ownership. But to me he looked like one of the only kids who showed up today as our leading tackler
..
Like that he isn’t talking about how we are still in it, and is furious over this loss
144 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:20 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Also appreciate that he was able to be furious, but still hold his cool with reporters even tho he sounds more pissed than I ever heard him… He was able to be a pro, hit the reporter with “next question, Im embarressed” over and over instead of blowing up on media and behaving like cowboy trash
145 The original AG said at 7:01 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
LBs were especially terrible. I think BG had two offside calls, Barwin had one – not to mention it seemed that a couple times a LB lost contain on the opposite side that went for a big play. It could have been a DB that was responsible, but everyone looked terrible.
Carroll and Biggers looked like they were abused all game.
146 bill said at 7:03 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’ll see if I can stomach re-watching it, but I’m willing to bet that Kendricks is going to have a terrible day watching film of this game.
147 The original AG said at 7:08 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
It seemed both BG’s and Barwin’s came on 3rd down which basically gave them 1st downs or very close to it.
But even still, they couldn’t get off the field on 3rd down.
148 fran35 said at 9:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I dunno. I know others love kendricks, but all I see is a super athletic but undersized guy that had zero instincts. In other words, he is nothing special. The guy is really overrated and generally over pursues everything. Hicks is so good and it takes watching kendricks run in to him when he over pursues to realize how good hicks could be
149 bill said at 10:48 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If it wasn’t clear, I tend to agree with you, at least for this game. Again, I’d have to go back and watch carefully (and still wouldn’t know for sure), but I got the feeling from watching it live that Kendricks did not do a good job of diagnosing plays and was a major factor in the big runs. I think he’s a blitzer and not much else.
150 anon said at 5:21 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
"I've just always thought.. Why throw a touchdown when you can throw an interception?" – Mark Sanchez pic.twitter.com/wpctUnG5P4— Thad Hundley (@PJbleedsgreen) November 22, 2015
151 ChoTime said at 5:46 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
BS armchair QBing. As if it’s that easy in realtime!
152 bill said at 7:02 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I called it in real time, and I’m generally not a guy who sees much in real time. That one was just that obvious. And you can see that Sanchez Kaepernicked it – he never took his eyes off of his first read, and the Bucs jumped it. But in the end – that’s Sanchez, and when your team gives up 45 points, including a 9 minute drive to start the second half, talking about your backup QB’s flaws is kind of missing the point.
153 ChoTime said at 7:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Well (and my post came off more hostile than I meant), it’s not that easy when you’re on the field. And like you said, backup quarterback.
154 bill said at 9:01 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I actually agree, and got really tired of all the all 22 “experts” who would whine over Foles missing his wide open 4th read a couple times a game. My big gripe is that Sanchez got target lock and never got away from his first read, who was clearly well covered. Kaepernick could get away with that 50% of the time due to his cannon; Sanchez has no chance.
155 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:24 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
“It’s tough, I got a bunch of pissed off prideful men in there and it starts with me. From the coaching, on down, today was unacceptable”-Bill Davis
156 oreofestar said at 5:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
maybe Chip should…
157 Mitchell said at 5:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Thats great and everything but what are you gonna do about it? You know?
158 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
That’s how you accept responsibility, Not the Bullshit chip feeds us
159 Media Mike said at 5:59 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Who is prideful? Not a single player played with any today.
160 JimK said at 5:40 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I certainly hope that Lurie will fire Chip but wonder if he will. Lurie has been a very good, hands-off owner with a long term outlook. He may reason that Kelly has had only one full year in full control.
Even if Kelly gets fired, the team will need both a GM and a coach. The last two drafts have been awful. As a fan its hard to tell whose fault it is. I’m sure a lot of the fault falls onKelly but some has to fall on the evaluating personnel and they will still be here. It looks like we are likely to face a few lean, horrible football years.
161 oreofestar said at 5:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Its way too early to call this draft awful, Shepard hasnt played, Hicks looked great I still have hope for Nelson and Rowe…now 2013 was BAAD!
162 dillinja said at 5:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
2014
2013 – we Lane Johnson, Ertz, and Logan, 3 solid NFL starters. Could see Johnson going up a level as well.
163 oreofestar said at 5:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I meant to say 2014
164 dillinja said at 5:45 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
yeah, no worries – thought you might have
165 anon said at 6:45 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
what happened to pope jordan?
166 dillinja said at 5:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
2014 was the real miss – Jordan Matthews appears to be the only solid player from that draft.
167 oreofestar said at 5:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
if even
168 oreofestar said at 5:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
My bad I meant 2014 but typed 2013
169 Media Mike said at 5:59 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I don’t see Chip getting fired, but we have a perfectly fine football guy (Howie) to be the GM whenever we move on from Chip.
170 ac134spectre said at 5:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Just embarrassing. Rookie qb dismantled the vaunted defense.
171 Joe Minx said at 5:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
If we’re completely honest, this defense has been overrated for much of the year. No semblance of a pass rush has really killed them lately.
172 Media Mike said at 5:56 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
That falls on Billy.
173 ac134spectre said at 7:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I thought they did ok, considering how long they were on the feild.
174 sonofdman said at 7:38 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
They were on the field a long time because they could not stop the Tampa offense at all. This performance by the defense was as far below “ok” as possible.
175 ac134spectre said at 1:03 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
I was referring to the season over all. No damn excuse for today. Basically against a cream puff like Tampax bay, you do what you need to and get a win. Even with Sanchez. Just hand the ball off.
176 Joe Minx said at 5:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
So disgusted right now I’m having a hard time coming up with adequate words.
177 ChoTime said at 5:43 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Man, you guys are pretty subdued for how bad they got beat today. I guess the season has just worn us all out.
I would be surprised if Chip gets canned, even if this continues. Lurie is a stay-the-course type. Really, if you give the keys to the guy and let him do all these crazy things, you need to give it plenty of time. So far, #sportscience, #culture, #tradingorcuttingyourbest players looks bad, but the bridge/ships have already been burnt. Have to let it play out through 2016. This team is neither bad enough or good enough to fire him.
178 dillinja said at 5:45 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
IDK – if the team ends up like 4-12 or 5-11, I could see him going. I agree he’ll be back if they end up like 7-9/8-8
179 Joe Minx said at 5:45 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
He’s got at least next year, depending on the results. If it looks anything like this again he’s finished.
180 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:54 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I agree with your assessment of Lurie. His end of the year state of the team speech will be along those lines of need to be sure we give it enough time.
But I think it more likely Chip decides he’s happier in college. Los Angeles is really nice this time of year. So is Miami.
181 ChoTime said at 6:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Chip is so damn stubborn. Part of me admires him for it. He wants to do it his way. It may end up that the NFL doesn’t work out for him.
I was saving this, but if Lurie fires Chip halfway through the season, I’ll bring it out again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qt6pXTMGThA
182 fran35 said at 9:21 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Maybe you are right. I hope so. Maybe he will adapt. He doesn’t seem like a dumb guy. He seems adaptive. We are about to see.
183 Media Mike said at 5:56 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m about to get un-subdued, but I get your point.
I’d agree that Lurie ain’t going to can Chip until after the 2016 team, no matter how long stuff continues this way this year.
184 Media Mike said at 5:57 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Anybody want to take up for Billy Davis? His D has been putrid for far too many stretches vs. when it hasn’t been.
185 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:00 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yes. Other than today, the Defense has played well all season long. The defense has improved over the past 3 years. Complete opposite of our offense. Offense gets worse and worse. Had maybe 1 or 2 good games (Saints, Cowboys 2nd game) all season long.
186 Media Mike said at 6:01 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
How about the non-D vs. the rush in the Carolina game? Or the non-stop slant routes we can’t stop?
187 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:05 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
This scheme, as does any defensive scheme, has to give up some things and won’t be perfect. Look at the overall results. Defense kept us in many games, despite our offense and its turnover machine super powers.
The main thing for me – I see improvement. That is the mark of good coaching. Regression is the mark of bad coaching.
188 Media Mike said at 6:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
We’ll need to chat about this (a lot) again at the end of the season.
But I still see a lack of a consistent pass rush, too many missed tackles, and lapses in key situations.
189 Dragon_Eagle said at 6:07 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Think about it this way. Put the year 1 Nick Foles offense with this defense. What do you see?
190 Media Mike said at 6:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
lack of pass rush, missed tackles, lapses in key situations, Mathis playing at an all-pro level, and DeSean playing at a pro-bowl level.
191 sdev923 said at 6:13 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Yes, I completely agree. They lack an identity and physicality. That’s a direct reflection of the coaching. How many more times can we get beat by the same slant routes?
Any DC candidates you have in mind? I’d like someone from the Denver or Cardinals coaching staff.
192 Media Mike said at 6:14 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’d need to see who gets fired this off-season first. Could be any one of a number of guys.
193 Joe Minx said at 8:44 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
We’ve been getting beat by those slants since the first game of Chip & Billy’s time here. And not a damn thing has changed.
194 fran35 said at 9:19 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
The crazy thing about that is that our CBs should be less susceptible to that route. Being deep yes, but our bigger press corners should be less susceptible to a quick release
195 Fufina said at 6:02 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And our defense has excessive pressure being put on it by our pace of play (which is even worse when the offence sucks).
I think they are a pretty good unit who are well coached and improved consistently… unlike the offence.
196 Media Mike said at 5:58 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
There isn’t much to say about Sanchez except he’s a backup QB. I’m looking firmly at other parts of the team before I’m going to flame a backup QB.
197 fran35 said at 9:16 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Good point. Sanchez is not the problem. Is he good, no. But he is a backup. I believe Chip has lost the team already. At least with Andy Reid, the players loved him and busted their butt for him until he started bringing in the outsiders. Chip seems abrasive and so he probably is much quicker to lose players
198 GermanEagle said at 6:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Bill Davis sucks. End. Of. Story.
199 Media Mike said at 6:10 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Put me in that camp. Not everybody is there with us however.
200 The original AG said at 6:56 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I thought he turned the corner after the first few games, but it seems teams know what he’s doing now.
201 Media Mike said at 7:02 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Tampa’s line, outside of Mankins, is a bunch of sucky bums. How was there no pass rush on Winston today?
202 The original AG said at 7:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Interesting conversation I had with my dad about an hour before game time. He said he was really worried about the defense more than anything today. I asked why, and he simply said, “They do the same thing every week. Eventually teams are going to start beating you.”
203 Media Mike said at 7:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
That’ll be worth watching.
204 Buge Halls said at 8:20 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Has there been pass rush all season…or last year?
205 GermanEagle said at 2:29 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
I know. Some people get still blinded by one or two good defense performances – like the one against the Giants – though our D Line play in those games made it seem that way.
Billy D may be a nice person – and I’ve been saying this since his hire – but his track record over all these years in the NFL make him what he is: a mediocre DC.
206 George said at 6:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
At least he admitted it.
207 Media Mike said at 6:13 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m at a loss on how to assign specific levels of blame right now. There is so much wrong with this team.
208 Media Mike said at 6:27 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
What the hell is going on in this town?
Eagles – terribly under expectations
Phillies – worst team in MLB
Sixers – worst team in NBA
Flyers – horrible and they still haven’t unloaded cap clogging dead end vets
Union – putrid lack of talent
I can’t think of a single year where we’ve had our pro teams be collectively this bad.
209 Joe Minx said at 8:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
It’s shameful. One of the top markets in the country & all 5 professional teams are at or among the very worst in their respective leagues. This city deserves so much better.
210 SteveH said at 6:29 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I think its debatable whether this was our worst game. The Cowboys game and last week against the Dolphins were really up there in terms of all time awfulness.
211 Media Mike said at 6:36 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Except Tampa is less talented than either Dallas or Miami.
212 SteveH said at 6:37 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
True, but we just sucked today. Dallas and Miami were the biggest slop fests I’ve ever seen.
213 Media Mike said at 6:49 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I can’t argue that. The major problem is that we don’t have a decent 60 minutes all year.
214 Mitchell said at 6:38 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I thought Diggs would be a good player but #culture#BigbodyWR
215 JoeBlow said at 6:40 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
as did i, i really liked him a lot….but he didn’t go until the 5th round so a lot of teams passed
216 Mitchell said at 6:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
The point is I have a fantastic eye for talent. Kappa
217 JoeBlow said at 6:42 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
well who doesn’t know that lol?
218 D3FB said at 6:43 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
Justin Gilbert
Justin Gilbert
Justin Gilbert
Justin Gilbert
Justin Gilbert
219 Mitchell said at 8:09 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
Tobin TobinTobin
220 D3FB said at 8:39 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
Tobins an adequate starter.
Gilbert is the Marcus SMith of CBs.
221 Mitchell said at 9:54 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
I know people are going to get beat and the line has several times throughout the weeks but I feel loke Tobin, especially early, was a turnstyle. The team is a mess again anyway. Gilbert was an early evaluation experience. I honestly havent followed him at all.
222 Mitchell said at 6:41 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
The loss is even worse because we had to lose to Winstons stupid looking face.
223 JoeBlow said at 6:47 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
the most embarrassing part of todays debacle was the opening drive of the 3rd quarter…..how many penalties did the Bucs have? it was like they were actively trying to stall their own drive, but as we already know 3rd and 20 is wayyyyy too tough a predicament for this defense.
These players should seriously be ashamed of themselves
224 Crus57 said at 7:13 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I’m still much more comfortable with our D facing 3rd and 3 than 3rd and 13. How this can still be such a problem I have no idea. 3rd down is our kryptonite, even against a team like Tampa who have been pretty terrible on 3rd downs.
225 Media Mike said at 7:15 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Billy Davis
226 Media Mike said at 7:16 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
And I’d like to thank Temple Basketball for losing as well today. How the heck are we supposed to get through the winter/spring if we don’t get all 6 Big 5 + Drexel Philly teams into the NCAA tournament?
227 The original AG said at 7:20 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
My buddy is a St Joe’s grad. He was happy for a short time this afternoon.
228 Media Mike said at 7:21 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
The Big 5 collectively needs to stop letting so much top talent from the region leave the region.
229 The original AG said at 7:22 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Pay Rhule to stay.
230 Media Mike said at 7:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I meant HS BB talent not playing locally.
231 The original AG said at 7:37 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Gotcha.
232 The original AG said at 7:22 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Chip says he self-scouts. I think he needs a stronger voice in the room at the coordinator spot. No one was terribly enthusiastic about Shurmur or Davis. I think CK needs some sharper guys to help game plan, or at least let him know that running the same 5-7 plays won’t work every game.
I’m rambling, but I feel like the coaching on this team is seriously lacking right now, across the board.
233 Media Mike said at 7:32 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I actually like Shurmur quite a bit.
234 D3FB said at 6:41 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
I think he’s finidng that having to be GM, headcoach, and OC is a bit much.
235 miked718 said at 8:01 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Chip’s definitely getting another year, even if they lose out. Billy D is hittin’ the road either at the end of season or midway. Prob a few defensive cod he as well. The big mystery is whether Chip has a GM-babysitter this offseason or if Lurie gives him another year of free reign.
I’m as big of a Chip guy as anyone not from Oregon and even I am starting to doubt his ways. I don’t want to believe it but yeesh, this is not a good football team.
236 miked718 said at 8:05 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Oh and Maxwell, good god, I might take Sconces back at this point or maybe even Nnamdi…
237 Mr. Magee said at 8:26 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
He is Nnamdi!! Kidding aside, you deserve a lot of credit for your honesty. And I agree that Lurie will likely do nothing.
238 The original AG said at 8:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Everyone was bad, he’s been legit up until today. Yeah the first couple games were bad, but the last 5-6 for him have been pretty good.
He’d be like at best the 3rd person I’d get mad at in the secondary.
239 fran35 said at 9:09 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
While today was just deplorable, he has not been anywhere near legit this year, IMO. To me, to call him legit would mean that he is a good corner. Forget the fact that we paid him to be elite. I would just settle for good. He has not played good this year. Mediocre at times, terrible at others. He has not been good. Cary Williams had good games at times, and he was pilloried.
240 The original AG said at 9:26 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
We’ll agree to disagree, but here were his stats coming into the game.
https://twitter.com/eaglescentral/status/668466087076474880
241 Flyineagle45 said at 8:04 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Cya Chip, thanks for dismantling a good team and turning it into garbage I hope USC finds you well.
242 Buge Halls said at 8:15 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
4-12 was NOT a good team. How quickly we forget
243 Insomniac said at 8:33 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
but somehow Chip’s “magic” made it into a 10-6 team? Nope, the talent was there Chip just gave a breath of fresh air and a demeanor of firing you if you weren’t 100% with him.
244 oreofestar said at 8:18 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
team he inherited wasnt that great but he took a promising 2013 squad and made it progressively worse somehow
245 Flyineagle45 said at 8:06 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Worst swan song ever!
246 Mr. Magee said at 8:20 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
You know it’s really bad when Tommy’s not trying to paint a happy face on it..
247 Nailed It! said at 8:28 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
Still a lot of hot hot takes coming in, do not think Chip should be fired. But it is getting harder too see the forest for the trees currently.
248 oreofestar said at 8:30 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
FIRE CHIP!!! BOOOOO
249 lilmc said at 9:13 PM on November 22nd, 2015:
I have been a fan of this franchise for over 40 years. I know that I have seen a lot of crappy teams and times, but I can’t remember being so angry. I was embarrassed to be an Eagles fan today. The drive to open the 2nd half is unacceptable. Sorry to rant, it’s needed therapy
250 GermanEagle said at 6:24 AM on November 23rd, 2015:
Sanshite.