Eagles Win the Shady Bowl

Posted: December 13th, 2015 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 609 Comments »

The Eagles beat Buffalo 23-20, in a tough, dramatic game where LeSean McCoy ended up being more of a sidenote than the focus. Shady was front and center all week, but he ended up with 20 carries for 74 yards. He played well in the 1st half, but simply had no room to run in the 2nd.

This wasn’t a pretty game by any stretch. Dropped passes once again hurt the Eagles. Tyrod Taylor’s combination of running and passing skills led the Bills to 412 yards, but only 20 points. The Eagles defense made key plays, including the game-winning INT by Ed Reynolds. Wait, was this the preseason? Who told Reynolds he could make a big play in a big game?

Zach Ertz had a big game, going 5-98. His 41-yard catch and run set up the Eagles go-ahead FG. Ertz was very close to breaking some other plays for big gains, but couldn’t quite shake loose of the defender. He did have one costly drop on a 3rd down in the Red Zone.

There was a lot of talk about DeMarco Murray being banished to the #4 RB spot. That didn’t happen. He was 11-34, numbers that were close to Ryan Mathews, who finished 13-38. The Bills played very good run defense, mainly by stacking the box. Darren Sproles only had 7 carries, but got 41 yards and scored a TD. Murray got the ball late in the game so that should show him Chip still trusts him in a big way.

The real story was the Eagles defense. They did give up yards, but made life hard for the Bills. Fletcher Cox had a sack, 2 TFLs and drew numerous holding calls. He was a monster. Vinny Curry also had a strong day. My favorite moment in the game was a play in the 2nd half when Curry, Cox and Brandon Graham were all being held by Bills OL. That’s when you’re really winning up front.

It sure looked like Eric Rowe had a terrific game. Byron Maxwell got beaten a few times, but ended up having good coverage on some key plays.

The Eagles STs had a big hand in this win. Donnie Jones averaged 50 yards per punt and kept the Bills from getting good field position most of the time. The coverage units were outstanding. Newly signed Jaylen Watkins forced a muff on one punt and Bryan Braman recovered. That set up a TD pass. And Caleb Sturgis, who gets a ton of flak, was 3 for 3 on FGs. He got good depth on his KOs as well.

The Eagles now advance to 6-7 and remain tied for the NFC East lead. The Skins also won today so they are also 6-7. The Giants play tomorrow night.

Buffalo had 15 penalties for 101 yards and played a very sloppy game. They lost this game as much as the Eagles won it.

One of the best things about this game is that the Eagles weren’t satisfied with last week’s big upset. They stayed focused and played well. This team was a mess for 2 weeks, but has now won 2 games in a row and looks very different.

Hopefully all the off-field drama can go away and the focus can shift back to the field.

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609 Comments on “Eagles Win the Shady Bowl”

  1. 1 Media Mike said at 5:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Great win. We’ll have time later in the week to harp on dropped passes, but outside of the refs allowing Buffalo to get away with way too much holding all day…..this would have been a bigger win.

    Great win though.

  2. 2 Kevin, uncautiously optimistic said at 5:17 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    T-law, love your stuff, but I disagree with the Bills lost the game angle. The penalties they had, especially on the offense were, imo, more of the Eagles front destroying that Oline… It wasn’t sloppy, it was the result of domination.

  3. 3 IGGLEZ said at 5:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I have to agree, they made some mistakes but really not many. They looked like a tough offense and gave us obvious problems at times. Our defense needs to tighten up.

  4. 4 NineseveN said at 8:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Exactly, if they hadn’t been holding, we would have had like a zillion sacks. If anything, the holding just gave them more reps today because they replayed the down instead of losing it with sacks.

  5. 5 The original AG said at 5:17 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Overall good win after coming off an upset last week. Let’s see if we can get to .500 this week.

  6. 6 Media Mike said at 5:18 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I like that we only have to beat Washington and NYG at this point to go to the playoffs. A win vs. Arizona would be pure gravy and I’m happy we don’t 100% need that game because they’re a really good football team.

  7. 7 The original AG said at 5:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We control our own destiny at this point.

  8. 8 Media Mike said at 5:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    And we control it even if we lose to Arizona. That is a significant stress reducer.

  9. 9 truehaynes said at 5:28 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I wrote about this last week and I’m so glad we took care of business

  10. 10 Media Mike said at 5:30 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yup. Refreshing to feel like we’re on a roll.

  11. 11 A Roy said at 6:39 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Interestingly, Eagles now own the best SOV in the league.

  12. 12 big Jes said at 1:07 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Sov?

  13. 13 A Roy said at 3:51 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Strength of victory…similar to strength of schedule.

  14. 14 IGGLEZ said at 1:59 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    ??

  15. 15 A Roy said at 4:22 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Strength of victory

  16. 16 Bert's Bells said at 3:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    AND the best SOB

    http://thesportsfanjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/fletcher-cox-eagles.jpg

  17. 17 Wongtong said at 5:19 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Great win by the eagles. Happy with how Bradford has been progressing this year.

  18. 18 Media Mike said at 5:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yeah. And the “INT” was 100% a weak play by Celek that should have been reversed anyway.

  19. 19 bdbd20 said at 6:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Great throw, by the way. If Celek catches it clean, we’re in business. Sam put that ball in the perfect spot. Can’t believe Celek let that one get away.

  20. 20 Media Mike said at 6:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, that was brutal.

  21. 21 RobNE said at 5:19 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Update on Rowe there was too much noise here to hear the announcers

  22. 22 Sean Stott said at 5:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He was playing again after he went off the field.

  23. 23 RobNE said at 5:31 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Thanks

  24. 24 BobSmith77 said at 5:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Ankle injury that will be evaluated tomorrow.

  25. 25 Bert's Bells said at 5:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Taylor was impressive.

  26. 26 anon said at 9:28 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    for a guy making first starts fact that he’s gone 233 passes no pick is amazing. he would be perfect for this system. makes plays w/ feet, careful w/ the ball, can throw downfield, etc. seems like a really level headed guy

  27. 27 Jarock said at 11:30 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Wanted to come to Philly too.

  28. 28 Anders said at 1:53 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The one that got away.

    If Kelly never goes deep in the play offs, it will be because he fails to find a qb. Be it Taylor, Carr, Bridgewater or some other random qb

  29. 29 anon said at 2:02 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    is sammy b the guy? i’d like to see him be a bit more aggressive. seems like we’re in “ball control” offense instead of tempo / trying to put up points.

  30. 30 Anders said at 2:54 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think drops and penalties are tempo killers.

    Bradford has been more aggressive the last couple of games, if he just had a Maclin type guy (do not need tier 1 WR) that he could trust, this offense would be much better

  31. 31 Ankerstjernen said at 3:15 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Yes, this is the worst part of the off season as it stands right now. The official story is, his agent reached out to Philly first in the off season because he wanted specifically to come here and play for Chip – felt he had the best chance of being succesful here. And we turned him down, then added whats-his-name to the roster as a third-stringer and then gave that guy up for Thad freaking Lewis. And yes, he appears to have the perfect skillset for the offense Kelly wants to run. And he was cheap too. Its another bit of evidence to hang on to as we carry on figuring out Kellys abilities as a talent evaluator.

  32. 32 Kleptski, Squirrel-in-Chief said at 4:02 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Taylor wanted to be a starter. He wasn’t going to be a starter in Philly.

    Yesterday, Taylor showed why Chip went for Bradford as his starter. Taylor was off target on several throws. Mostly due to pressure. Also, the Bills run a very simple offense. Davis said the past week that they aren’t asking him to do very much. It showed in the Bills game.

    All the Eagles were looking for was a 3rd stringer to replace Barkley. Tyrod Taylor wasn’t going to accept 3rd string, or even second string.

    There was never really a story, there.

  33. 33 Ankerstjernen said at 5:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    One could argue that the eagles also run a very simple offense. Our QB is not even allowed to audible. But you may well be right, the Eagles were already tuned in to Bradford and Mariota, having settled on Sanchez early on as the designated back-up. So it might not have been an opportunity for them after all. And I get that hindsight is useless in these cases (yes, everybody passed on Tom Brady five times, that stuff happens all the time). All I meant was that its worth tracking. Bradford might very well turn out to be more succesful the coming years, in fact I believe he will. But given that this guy actually approached the team precisely because he felt like he could be succesful here is worth monitoring given the way Kelly have appeared to take a long look at a lot of guys with considerable less talent in an effort to find value and perhaps a gem. Time will tell, as always.

  34. 34 BobSmith77 said at 5:28 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Two evenly matched teams which could have gone either way. Eagles to their credit won it today including their defense making a big play to cap it. Eagles have ended up on the losing end of too many games like this most of the year.

  35. 35 Media Mike said at 5:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yes, total opposite of a few too many bad games earlier this year. Happy to see it.

  36. 36 IGGLEZ said at 5:32 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    ‘LeSean McCoy doesn’t talk to media post-game’ via FanSided Android

    http://fansided.com/2015/12/13/lesean-mccoy-doesnt-talk-media-post-game/

  37. 37 Media Mike said at 5:32 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    What a punk.

  38. 38 IGGLEZ said at 5:34 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    LeSalty McBoy

  39. 39 IGGLEZ said at 5:36 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He’s gonna be moaping for days. Won’t see us again for a while. I laughed when he was throwing his hands up at his teammates for not being good enough when his ego really needs them. He was visibly frustrated.

  40. 40 Greg Richards said at 6:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We don’t want him to mope. We want him to be pissed and take it out on the Redskins next week.

  41. 41 BobSmith77 said at 6:08 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Par for the course.

  42. 42 The original AG said at 5:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    When you’re winning games, you are having fun.

    https://twitter.com/247365IgglesFan/status/676166270258192384

  43. 43 IGGLEZ said at 5:38 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Hahahahahaha that’s perfect

  44. 44 truehaynes said at 5:52 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    amazing

  45. 45 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:36 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Bradford 5-1 in the last 6 games he finished. Starting to play better and better even tho we are still having some problems with drops on perfectly placed balls. Love that he is starting To get aggressive taking shots down field
    ..
    Defensive line took over the game like they were supposed to do against one of the worst pass blocking OL’s …

  46. 46 The original AG said at 5:41 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Let’s hope he does that again next week. Cards are a solid team top to bottom and make very few mistakes. Going to be the same type of game next week.

  47. 47 bdbd20 said at 6:26 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I’m not sure anybody can handle our DL right now. Playing a statue QB may mean a big game from 75, 55, 91, and 98.

  48. 48 The original AG said at 6:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yeah, they seem to have gotten better overall. It also helps that the secondary is pitching in too. There were a couple times they had stuff locked down field, which forced the QB to run it a couple times.

  49. 49 big Jes said at 1:12 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Yeah and AZ not much of various run game so can kinda do some more 1 gap on the way to the qb that is what we should be doing with this line more often

  50. 50 anon said at 1:24 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    love to see vinny go off in that game.

  51. 51 Anders said at 1:51 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The cards have really fallen off the last few weeks. The most important part will be limiting drops and penalties on offence

  52. 52 daveH said at 5:44 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    german eagle performed his usual greatness !!

  53. 53 GermanEagle said at 7:07 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    As long as I watch the Eagles LIVE, we’ll be fine.

  54. 54 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:45 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Good win today. MVPS: Fletcher Cox, Eric Rowe, and Darren Sproles.

  55. 55 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 5:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Rowe played big

  56. 56 Media Mike said at 5:50 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Welcome to Death Rowe

  57. 57 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:52 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Oooh. I like that.

  58. 58 Media Mike said at 5:53 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Somebody else was calling him that a while ago, so I can’t take credit.

  59. 59 daveH said at 6:27 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    BoatHouse Rowe .. maybe something there ..

  60. 60 Media Mike said at 6:30 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Nice, but not violent enough for a defender.

  61. 61 daveH said at 6:31 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    saw a story “Body floating near Boathouse Row’ .. we r close on something just not quite there

  62. 62 daveH said at 5:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Fletch Cox stuffing Shady .. scruffling w Shady .. and then a play or 2 later picking him UP off the rug was respect!! ThE BEST

  63. 63 Kleptski, Squirrel-in-Chief said at 4:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Could also have been a tactic. Picking him up denies him a few seconds of rest. Small thing, but might be important, as the game goes on. I noticed a lot of guys picking Lesean up off of the turf. Seemed a bit more than just being classy.

  64. 64 daveH said at 10:25 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    Get up so i can beat you down again … thats cool too

  65. 65 truehaynes said at 5:51 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    i dong want to whine after w in but the scramble by taylor where the rt literally tackled curry was the most egregious non call ive ever seen. resulted in a touchdown on the next play

  66. 66 Media Mike said at 5:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The refs missed multiple instances of Buffalo holding today.

  67. 67 Joe Minx said at 5:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    It was a Hochuli game. I’m just grateful to have gotten a win.

  68. 68 BobSmith77 said at 6:07 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Refs were terrible today. I hate to complain about that but this is two straight weeks where the refs are just inadequate.

  69. 69 Crus57 said at 6:38 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I did Judo as a kid, and I think that was a pretty sweet takedown by their RT. And he even followed it up with a pin. Maybe the Refs got confused which sport they were watching – which would explain an awful lot tonight.

  70. 70 Dave said at 6:59 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The NFL is a billion dollar league with part time refs! I repeat, billion dollar league with part time refs that have other jobs/careers. I can only assume that the only way to get full time refs is if the taxpayers pay for it.

  71. 71 Forthebirds said at 5:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Dominating performance by the Eagles’ front seven. They caused a lot of Blz’ holds and false starts. Is it imagination, or do Rex Ryan teams always make a lot of penalties. I was impresses with Bradord’s co?and of the offense. He even had a nice run. I know everyone wanted to hear Shady talk after the game, but what did we expect him to say? “I got shut down in the second half.”

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 6:14 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We still control our own destiny if we lose to Cardinals. We want to beat Arizona ideally but if we beat Redskins and Giants we take division no matter what happens vs Arizona. We’d be 8-8 if we lost to Arizona and beat Redskins and Giants. They’d each have at least 8 losses. We’d be 4-2 in division. They’d each have at least 3 divisional losses. Am I right?

  73. 73 Media Mike said at 6:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    You are!

  74. 74 BobSmith77 said at 6:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    http://i680.photobucket.com/albums/vv165/shr00micon/you-sir-are-correct.jpg

  75. 75 JoeBlow said at 6:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    weird wacky stuff!

  76. 76 The original AG said at 6:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Just a reminder.

    https://twitter.com/_Philly_Talk/status/676178739642937345

  77. 77 bdbd20 said at 6:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Wrong. He was actually on the roster for the NE game. Released on Monday. So, still undefeated.

  78. 78 The original AG said at 6:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Semantics… 🙂

  79. 79 bdbd20 said at 6:26 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I do love semantics.

  80. 80 BobSmith77 said at 6:27 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    They don’t miss him but man this receiving corps is pitiful. Celek even had a bad day today with a notable drop and getting out-muscled by a smaller guy on that pick. Given up on Ertz ever really breaking out either.

    It would probably drive people crazy but if the Eagles see a TE they really like this year higher in the draft I hope they take him.

  81. 81 A Roy said at 6:36 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Ertz 5-98…sounds like we should all give up on him.

  82. 82 BobSmith77 said at 11:40 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    This was arguably one of his better games of the season and he still had a drop & struggled almost all day blocking.

    He’s an adequate starter but I thought early last year he might become one of the better (Top 10 TE) in the league. Just hasn’t made that jump which at this point I doubt he will.

  83. 83 JoeBlow said at 6:41 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I’m just an idiot, but this draft class has literally zero TE’s to be excited about….i kind of like the kid Jake Butt from Michigan

  84. 84 sonofdman said at 7:49 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I want the Eagles to draft him so bad, so I can get that Jersey for my 7 year old son. He would love it.

  85. 85 Insomniac said at 8:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Butt can’t block for shit though.

  86. 86 JoeBlow said at 8:18 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    thats the problem with every TE in this draft

  87. 87 Media Mike said at 8:19 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Not every one. I think there is a kid from LSU that obliterates people.

  88. 88 JoeBlow said at 8:20 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    talks of him moving to tackle….is it Dillon Gordon or something like that?

  89. 89 Media Mike said at 8:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Could be. I saw him on a big hitter list of some sort I think.

  90. 90 JoeBlow said at 8:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    yea i know who your talking about, just might be getting his name confused….he is a TE who weighs like 290

  91. 91 Media Mike said at 8:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1984256/dillon-gordon

    He big

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 8:34 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    “Dillon Gordon, TE/OL, LSU
    Gordon weighs nearly as much as an interior lineman (6-4, 295) but is really better suited at tight end. He has managed to catch just six passes (none in 2014) in his career — but the low catch total doesn’t mean he’s rarely open. Gordon puts up enough fight as a blocker to be a help in the running game and a potential threat in play-action situations; he’ll definitely have a role to play if he lands on an NFL team with a power-run scheme.”

    From an NFL.com article

  93. 93 sonofdman said at 8:20 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    So you’re saying that shit just passes right through? (I regret nothing)

  94. 94 sonofdman said at 8:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Imagine him trying to block Cox in training camp?

  95. 95 Insomniac said at 9:26 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Anal prolapse.

  96. 96 HawaiianEagle said at 8:48 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Let’s see how Ertz does next year. Sammy stronger and smarter. Hopefully O line better. Ertz played well today.

  97. 97 Joe Minx said at 8:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Butt’s not coming out.

    Now I feel like a perv for saying that.

  98. 98 b3nz0z said at 10:36 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    man imagine how awesome our lineup would be with both Butt and Cox

  99. 99 Greg Richards said at 7:32 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    That’s not true. He was on roster against Pats, just inactive.

  100. 100 The original AG said at 7:34 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I know now – I’ve been corrected. 🙂

  101. 101 cshav10 said at 9:45 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    Amen.

  102. 102 Crus57 said at 6:40 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Underrated part of the game today: the ability of Bradford to draw the Bills DL offsides repeatedly. And great to see our OL moving when given the excuse to get an easy 5 yds.

  103. 103 JoeBlow said at 6:42 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    But according to the guy on ESPN we never change the snap count?

  104. 104 TheTazmanianDevil said at 6:42 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Donnie Jones, the underground man of the game.

    Keeping the Bills in they own territory was crucial to win this game.
    Maybe his best game as a Eagles.

  105. 105 The original AG said at 7:00 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    https://twitter.com/ZBerm/status/676189433490751489

  106. 106 The original AG said at 7:01 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I’m not a fan of Ryan and here’s some context he should have before he opens his big mouth.

    https://twitter.com/BrandonGowton/status/676189421524402177

  107. 107 anon said at 9:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    he cant get his team to play disciplined football. they probably win w/out the penalties.

  108. 108 big Jes said at 1:20 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    With out the penalties we could have had 4 or 5 more sacks that come with lots of yards and downs on holds you get a free down and qb stays upright

  109. 109 BobSmith77 said at 11:38 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He’s an overrated head coach just like his dad. Just was able to win a few playoff games instead.

  110. 110 Cliff said at 7:09 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Does anyone know what was going in after the Celek interception? McCoy had the long run called back. The penalty was assessed as half the distance to the goal, but they never spotted the ball at half the distance and the down and distance stayed the same. It should’ve been something like 2nd and 12/13 but the next play was 2nd and 9. Buffalo picked up the first and looked like they’d be marching until our D stopped them. It was a weird few minutes – from the INT that should’ve been reversed to the penalty not being assessed. Bizarre day for these refs.

  111. 111 JoeBlow said at 7:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    i said the same exact thing while watching it

  112. 112 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    ED Hoculli happened

  113. 113 JoeBlow said at 7:13 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    also on one eagles kick return, the birds were called for a block in the back and Buffalo was called for a taunting or some kind of personal foul….they just canceled out the penalties, but shouldn’t it have been a re-kick?

  114. 114 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 7:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I thought you were supposed to replay the down

  115. 115 Baloophi said at 10:07 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I thought the same thing…

  116. 116 Media Mike said at 7:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    That was odd.

  117. 117 76mustang said at 7:16 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    If you watch the Reynolds interception at the end of the game, he was never touched by a Bill after sliding down…

    This has to be the poorest officiated season in NFL and College FBS history…

  118. 118 Media Mike said at 7:18 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He gave himself up and they blew the play dead.

  119. 119 wee2424 said at 7:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He gave himself up. He was down.

  120. 120 Jernst said at 8:18 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Agreed I was yelling the same thing at my TV

  121. 121 GermanEagle said at 7:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Before you guys forget: Dallas sucks.

  122. 122 TypicalDouche said at 7:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Fuck Dallas, now and forever.

  123. 123 Media Mike said at 7:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Mike McCarthy sucks worse. What the fuck are Eddie Lacy’s TDs doing going to Starks?

  124. 124 sonofdman said at 7:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Of Course Starks is getting the TDs – He is on my bench.

  125. 125 Media Mike said at 7:51 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    McCarthy needs to keep him there.

  126. 126 Greg Richards said at 7:30 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    So, the Bills have the balls to complain about the officiating. Really.

  127. 127 The original AG said at 7:34 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I can’t understand that, and Rex even said he thought they outplayed us.

  128. 128 Greg Richards said at 7:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Scoreboard, Rex.

  129. 129 Mac said at 9:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He spent a fair amount of time in Baltimore. I’m not sure which team cries more, Ravens or Steelers.

  130. 130 Baloophi said at 10:05 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The Cardinals.

  131. 131 Mac said at 9:23 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Which is a team who’s head coach grew up in the Steeler’s cry baby factory.

  132. 132 kajomo said at 7:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We need to find a way to keep Curry

  133. 133 Media Mike said at 7:56 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Tall order. Especially when bidding vs. 4-3 teams that want to pay him starting DE money.

  134. 134 Jernst said at 8:16 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I was hoping we’d play him a whole bunch more this year and justify giving him a salary that would keep him here, but I sincerely doubt we’ll be able to keep him. Shame too…because his first step is freakish. Guys like Curry that cause disruption on nearly every single play simply don’t grow on trees. I know Chip likes the 3-4 but I still think we’re a 4-3 team.

    A line of Graham – Cox – Logan – Curry, with Kendricks – Hicks – Barwin as the LBs would be a great front seven.

  135. 135 Mr. Magee said at 12:03 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Fortunatley we have MSII, pass rush extraordinaire

  136. 136 bdbd20 said at 8:05 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I have a feeling they’ll keep him. There is precedent. 49ers kept Aldon Smith as a pass rushing specialist. The issue for Curry will be playing time more than $$. Lurie/Chip will reward him if he keeps improving.

    Also, with Ced leaving and getting paid, Curry can split time with Hart.

  137. 137 Colin Jones said at 8:38 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Maybe he’ll give the Eagles a hometown discount. After all he’s from Jersey and grew up an Eagles fan.

  138. 138 unhinged said at 7:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I just watched the panel discussion on NFL.com about ‘Chip Kelly’s perception problem”, reviewing material that has been hashed about countless times on this board. Marshall Faulk, I thought, had a very provocative insight: “…I never heard one player…not one… I don’t care what color…not one… come to the coach’s defense… just to say it isn’t the case…not one…” I find this intriguing because Kelly explains himself adequately, and believably, and he can defend himself, but the absence of a voice of a player that has played for him makes me wonder if it is a privacy being respected or a request from the HC that his reputation NOT be defended by his players. This is a guy who went to Africa to dispense medical or educational materials, with very little fanfare, a guy who brought a former black militant (Tommy Davis – ’68 Olympics Mexico City) to his locker room at Oregon to address his team about racial inequality at the institutional level, a guy who restricts the media from bothering his parents and friends at home. There seems to be an expectation that with all of his exposure and all of his media interface and all of the money he must make, that he is not allowed to have his private self, and he ignores that expectation and digs himself a deeper hole that escalates the speculation and derisive comments.
    If he is detached in any way from his players, or if the perception held by some or most of his players is that he is personally detached from them, I wonder if that could be detrimental to the play on the field. The two lost games this season – and I am not referring to scores, but to the TampA Bay and Detroit games where the players, almost to a man, looked disinterested, make me think that there is something unseen at work. Dick Vermeil wore his heart on his sleeve, and he had every last player leave it all on the field EVERY game. Maybe Chip has to let his players see more of his true self in order to sell out every game.

  139. 139 JoeBlow said at 7:37 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    i think what marshall faulk said is absolute bullshit, because guys have come to his defense this year

  140. 140 Dave said at 7:42 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I’m not looking back for quotes, but you are right, lots of guys spoke up for Chip. Media doesn’t run with those headlines because they’re not click bait material. Faulk either never did his homework or is just outright lying.

    Edit: spelling

  141. 141 JoeBlow said at 8:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    it is probably both for Mr. Faulk…..just another guy who i loved watching play, but once i got to see them on a personal level as a talking head, i now despise. The problem today is there are way too many players or ex-players on tv shows and when an issue like this comes up they take up for the player no matter the circumstances. I think some of this bullshit is pushed by producers to draw headlines, but in this case is just become downright disgusting. Not to mention you have the guys who never played anything like SAS on ESPN trying to stick up for the “bruthas” at every turn and try to paint Lesean McCoy as some kind of victim in all of this. That idiot needs to look in the mirror if he wants to find a real bigot. The idiots on PTI were saying Chip owed Shady an apology….for what? Do the Bears owe Brandon Marshall an apology for trading him? I couldn’t flip the channel this week without some nitwit telling me how Chip Kelly is the James Earl Ray of the NFL. It really got insane and there is some weird irrational hate for Kelly in the media

  142. 142 BobSmith77 said at 11:37 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Just lazy armchair analysis I’d bet.

  143. 143 Ankerstjernen said at 3:31 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I remember Murray actually telling reporters in training camp something like “look around you, there are a lot of good black players still here.”

  144. 144 Jernst said at 8:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Agreed. There were tons of players that came to his defense and said it’s ludicrous to insinuate that Chips a racist. Nothing insightful at all about Faulks point. It’s just a complete fabrication. One of those things that would be insightful if it were true…but it’s not … so ….

  145. 145 kajomo said at 7:40 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I honestly dont care about the race angle anymore. If you are too blind to see that Chip ‘s decisions are motivated by buying into his system then I just tune you out.

  146. 146 Dave said at 7:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Plus after this week’s theatric, its obvious Shady is very immature and his words cannot be taken seriously. He calls Chip a racist but says he has no hard feelings toward Chip…huh! That makes no sense.

  147. 147 Crus57 said at 8:09 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Shady said he never regrets anything he says because he always says what he’s feeling. Someone needs to tell him that being honest is not the same as being correct, but I guess maybe he has too many millions to consider that kind of personal growth.

  148. 148 Media Mike said at 7:55 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I blame the quitting on Sanchez starting and the team knowing they were doomed.

  149. 149 daveH said at 8:04 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    sanches literally has body language that makes me want to give up .. regardless if he does anything good, you know something bad is coming

  150. 150 unhinged said at 4:25 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    That sounds very plausible, MM, and it may be accurate, but if I am committed to my own point (which I am not), a Coach/players bond should override adversities. I really don’t know what Kelly’s impact is on his players…the trades got all their attention, I would think, but do they relish the opportunity to impress the HC? Thanks for your 2 cents.

  151. 151 Greg Richards said at 8:46 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Faulk’s comments are factually untrue. Several players have said that the perception of Kelly of being racist is BS. Mathis even said it after the Eagles cut him. It’s pretty clear that Kelly is authoritarian, a “my way or the highway” type of guy.

  152. 152 unhinged said at 4:13 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    Thanks, Greg for the info. I could not remember reading or hearing that, and when I heard Faulk’s comment I was taking him at his word.

  153. 153 RichEagle said at 9:19 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Do you mean Tommie Smith, the one whom was an activist against Apartheid, segregation in the U.S. and world poverty? Controversial, depending on the opinion but hardly a militant.

  154. 154 JoeBlow said at 9:24 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I know Chip used to bring Harry Edwards in to speak to his team at Oregon. Edwards is a black activist and a former Black Panther. But ya know….he doesn’t relate to black people

  155. 155 unhinged said at 4:09 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    Thank you RichEagle for the correction, and for the response. My comment elicited some responses that, helped me to see in hindsight that I worded the comment poorly. I am not a Kelly-hater, far from it. I always take his explanations for his decisions at his word, and I never gave the kerfuffle over the “spare Cooper/dish McCoy = racist” criticisms much attention. I was really trying to put into context the two putrid performances that the Eagles turned in vs Tampa Bay and Detroit, when I heard the comment from Faulk, and it struck a nerve. When I see a team play at a particular level, which is not top-of-the-line, granted, but isn’t sickeningly bad either, and then I see inexcusable play, my bias takes me to the coaching for an answer. That may be unfair, but if I am being honest w/myself, that is how it feels to me. Some writers were claiming that Kelly was “losing his locker room”, and I didn’t buy that, but I was inclined to think that an explanation might be found in how personal he gets with his players. I don’t have any doctrine that I espouse, and I would not ask anybody, including Kelly to adopt one, but the pain and drain that NFL players routinely experience leads me to believe that they need more than $$$ to repeatedly sell out on the field. Kelly has said that he wants leaders, professionals, guys who are “wired right”, and if that means that he wants “self-starters” who do not require forceful (but loving) attention, I don’t think those guys exist. That was really the perspective I was trying to convey. And I respectfully disagree with you regarding Tommie Smith. In 1968 America, he was very much a militant, because he actively challenged the prevailing view, and it was a wonderful moment.

  156. 156 Mr. Magee said at 12:06 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Good insights

  157. 157 unhinged said at 4:28 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    Thanks Mr.Magee. I think my points were poorly made and missed by most responses.

  158. 158 Mr. Magee said at 9:13 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    Not poorly made at all, IMO. Sometimes the blogasphere feels like a complete waste of time. I look to it for interesting conversation and (occasionally) new info, but often that is not what you get. I don’t need to agree with everything I read, but if it’s on point and advances the discussion, then I’m all for it.

  159. 159 Media Mike said at 7:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Note to Tony Dungy:

    Please kill yourself for picking the Giants to with the NFC East. I don’t mind a Washington pick, but I cannot stomach the Giants.

  160. 160 daveH said at 8:03 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    cant stand listening to tony dungy regardless .. and never heard him say anything of real insight

  161. 161 Media Mike said at 8:04 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    True enough, but support of the Giants is particularly vile.

  162. 162 daveH said at 8:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I really think with all his experience and insight the man is clueless.
    I actually like gints coach coughlin well enough because he has been under fire his entire tenure and he has delivered the rings.. lucky or not he did it.
    (and his face freezing off that one game is permanent respect)

  163. 163 Media Mike said at 8:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I find everything they do vile.

  164. 164 daveH said at 9:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    fair enough.

  165. 165 Mitchell said at 8:09 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The play where Huff got hurt. Was that a “pick” play? He was running his route and protected himself against the defender. He didnt block anyone on purpose.

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 8:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    And the ball was in the air prior to that contact. Not illegal either way. Solomon Wilcotts is a dope for saying otherwise.

  167. 167 Mitchell said at 8:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    So is Hoculi’s reffing team.

  168. 168 Crus57 said at 8:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I think I’d rather have Hoculi doing the announcing.

  169. 169 Mitchell said at 8:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    How about the play before half where they were gonna keep running the clock when Cooper was clearly out of bounds. Classic.

  170. 170 Crus57 said at 8:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We were just lucky we got away without another random 10 second runoff.

  171. 171 Media Mike said at 8:16 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I went thermonuclear over that. That member of the officiating crew should have been killed.

  172. 172 sonofdman said at 8:19 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The funny thing was that this same mistake was made 3 weeks ago at the end of the Pats-Bills game and the Bills got screwed. This was very well publicized and the NFL admitted that the ref messed up. Then, they almost did the exact same thing to us just 3 weeks later.

  173. 173 sonofdman said at 8:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Hoculi like to hear is own voice so much, he would end up talking even more than Conlinsworth.

  174. 174 Duracell said at 8:15 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I’m pretty sure Ertz had even caught the ball just prior to the collision. No way it was OPI.

  175. 175 Mitchell said at 8:10 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I had to change my pants after that Agholor td.

  176. 176 Media Mike said at 8:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Depending on what substance you emptied into your pants, I might suggest giving some to Agholor to put on his hands so he drops a few less passes. Some sticky stuff might help him out.

  177. 177 Crus57 said at 8:12 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Maybe someone did, and he only realised once he scored, hence the spazz out he had?

  178. 178 Media Mike said at 8:17 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Could be.

  179. 179 Sean Stott said at 8:17 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The playoff simulator is putting a ton of weight on our game against WAS.

  180. 180 Media Mike said at 8:17 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    As it should. I can’t wait to end those fools.

  181. 181 Jernst said at 8:21 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Are you surprised that the game against the team tied with us for first place who already has a leg up in tie breakers would be the most critical game of our remaining 3 games?

  182. 182 Sean Stott said at 8:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    There’s not tiebreakers in week 14

  183. 183 Jernst said at 8:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Sure there are they’ve beat us head to head. So far they own the tie breaker if we ended up with the same record without facing off again. That game has huge tie breaker implications. If they beat us and end up with same record they are 2-0 head to head with us and would be in 1st. If we win and end up with the same record as them we would have evened the head to head score and we’d move on to the next tie breaker.

  184. 184 JoeBlow said at 8:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    doesn’t it come down to who has the better divisional record?

  185. 185 Jernst said at 8:27 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I might be wrong but I thought it was head to head first, then division record, then conference record then points scored total or some shit like that. I remember Farve trying to air out TDs years ago in a week 17 blow out to score more points and get the tie breaker because all else was equal.

  186. 186 John Galt said at 10:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Your right about the order, but as long as we beat wash and nyg we win the division. We would be 8-8, the best either of them could be is 8-8. We would be 4-2 in the division, they could both be no better than 3-3. Arizona game is huge for momentum, but actually pretty meaningless for division

  187. 187 Jernst said at 8:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Either way…they still have a one up when looking at potential tie breakers if it is in fact division record and since it’s a division game it would be very important for us to win for potential tie breaking reasons…soooo…either way how is my original statement wrong

  188. 188 JoeBlow said at 8:31 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    not saying it is, i’m just not sure myself……and yea just beat them, that solves everything

  189. 189 Sean Stott said at 9:01 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    There are still a lot of different ways that any of the 3 teams finish with the same record. Also, tiebreakers scenarios are different if three teams are tied.

  190. 190 Mitchell said at 8:22 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    How about that Reynolds int for the game ender? Do you think if Maragos is in there he pulls it off?

  191. 191 Media Mike said at 8:23 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    No

  192. 192 JoeBlow said at 8:24 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    That’s the kind of safety Reynolds is, Cover 2…he shaded over the top and was there for the overthrow

  193. 193 Insomniac said at 9:27 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He made up for that god awful “attempt” at trying to stop Watkins after he torched Maxwell.

  194. 194 Mitchell said at 9:37 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Yeh. I hear that. That was a close but no cigar. You wonder if he just isnt athletic enough to get there in time.

  195. 195 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:46 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Maybe he didn’t know if he should go for ball or man and missed both, or just a bad angle?

  196. 196 Mitchell said at 10:04 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Hopefully he learns from that.

  197. 197 James Adair said at 10:41 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He actually made the mistake of breaking inside which left him out of position to get there in time. Then he took a bad angle.

  198. 198 D3FB said at 3:16 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’s not a great athlete but he took false steps and weaved towards the middle of the field in his pedal. Must have been Tyrod looking to other side of the field because he had nothing up the seam that should have held him responsibility wise.

  199. 199 Ankerstjernen said at 3:37 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I remember looking at Reynolds spider chart the year we drafted him. You have to squint to spot it. He makes his plays from having great instincts and reading the QB, which is something he did very well in college..

  200. 200 Aaron said at 8:46 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    we are who we thought we were, or something………………….

  201. 201 A_T_G said at 8:50 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    It took a Hoculian effort for the Bills to be that close at the end, but the good guys prevail in the end. The sun is shining on our Cox and the last Shady spot disappeared into the tunnel.

  202. 202 truehaynes said at 1:17 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I see what you did there

  203. 203 disqus_jB7dl5fzvO said at 8:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    The Eagles under Chip Kelly never won a game in which they scored less than 24 points.

    Until today. No idea what it means but I found it interesting.

  204. 204 ac134spectre said at 2:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Duh stat. Unless you have amazing defense you have to put up points. That or an amazing run team that eats clock.

    It’s a hurry up offense not fixated on TOP, so, it’s a net neutral advantage. You score more but use less time, hence, teams tend to get more tries against you.

    In the current state of the game keeping teams under 20 points is tough, especially with what Kelly is doing.

    Stat just tells you the team runs a no huddle.

  205. 205 Tom said at 9:00 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    So what was up with Lurie hugging Shady? You dis our team saying we got rid of all the “good black players”, you dis my coach even when he tries to apologize to you, but I will hug you anyways? Really disappointing and I would be pissed if I was Chip

  206. 206 anon said at 9:02 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    shady put a lot of money in lurie’s pockets

  207. 207 Tumtum said at 11:09 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Extremely awkward hug. Shady held on for far longer than Lurie wanted.

  208. 208 JoeBlow said at 11:11 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    especially the way they grabbed each other by the back of their heads…like they were about to make out

  209. 209 Tumtum said at 9:55 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Looked very manufactured at the least. Same with the kiss. Its a shame. He really seemed like a nice guy when he was younger.

  210. 210 A_T_G said at 9:13 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Make sure you watch the last 30 seconds of Chip’s presser. He calls out McLane and the Inquirer for “making shit up” to get Twitter hits, waits for him to apologize, then ends the PC when McLane just says, “okay.”

  211. 211 Dave said at 9:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    McLane stands by his story that 2 “sources” told him it was true…welcome to click-bait journalizm in the 21st century. No retraction needed, he’ll just call Chip a liar.

  212. 212 Dave said at 9:50 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    http://www.nfl.com/videos/philadelphia-eagles/0ap3000000600898/Chip-Kelly-isn-t-pleased-with-report-of-McCoy-phone-call

    Here you go

  213. 213 NineseveN said at 11:43 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Watch the end of his presser on the Eagles website, you get the full roasting of McLane, it’s awesome! 🙂

  214. 214 Tumtum said at 11:05 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Good job Chip.

  215. 215 Anders said at 1:42 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The crazy thing is, it would be illegal for chip to call McCoy after he is on the bills

  216. 216 A_T_G said at 2:15 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The crazy part for me is that even if Chip had called, and even if Shady had hung up on him, I still wouldn’t care to read about it.

  217. 217 myartz04 said at 9:26 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Impressed with Bradford today. I can’t remember a game where every throw seemed to be on the money. Today, he looked like he was just in command. Loved how they got several offside calls. I’m just….happy.

  218. 218 anon said at 9:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    he’s throwing the ball great, recievers just suck. play calling is also not super aggressive.

  219. 219 myartz04 said at 9:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    They took a few shots today. Sometimes that’s all you need to keep a defense honest. Even the ball he threw to ‘tutu…if you watch it again I think a real receiver catches that. He took a poor angle and undercut the throw.

  220. 220 anon said at 9:37 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    coop had a huge drop, ertz had a drop, matthews, etc. games a little slow

  221. 221 myartz04 said at 9:41 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Celek’s drop that turned into an INT. Just the location of his throws today were on point.

  222. 222 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:44 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I thought that Ags drop was big. He had room to catch and run

  223. 223 anon said at 9:44 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    i was really impressed and i’m not really a bradford fan, but i’m becoming one. it’ll be interesting to see how he plays against ARI who has a beastly line / very aggressive w/ blitzes, etc.

    also i was pretty disappointed in celek letting that ball get taken from him.

  224. 224 bill said at 9:48 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think Kelly has realized just what a train wreck his OL is right now, so he can’t be super aggressive. Even without being aggressive yesterday, Bradford took a beating. I’m trying real hard to remember a game where I thought the OL won the line of scrimmage battle…

  225. 225 Tumtum said at 9:54 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    It really does feel like the offense just is what it is at this point. It is good to see that the play call did at least seem to vary this week. I only saw the ole no-gain-sideline-race-run” (I think that’s what it’s called in the playbook) once.

    As critical of Sam as I have been, it is pretty apparent he isn’t the problem. Guys just aren’t open or are dropping passes too often. I was supremely frustrated for most of the day, but never with Sam.

    The run game wasn’t horrible.

    It’s just a mediocre at best offense. Let’s hope the D doesn’t forget that they are really good when they are on the field with 2 minutes of down time next week.

  226. 226 anon said at 10:02 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    d plays well but offense really fucks them w/ their play. bradford is palying well i’d probably let him throw it more. receivers don’t have a ton of opportunity to get in rhythem, we don’t throw a lot and we spread it around.

  227. 227 meteorologist said at 9:56 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Getting hot at the right time. All we need is a 7 game winning streak from now boys lets go.

  228. 228 ChoTime said at 9:58 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Is it an optical illusion, or are Sproles’ arms the same size as Sam’s legs?

    http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fphoto%2F2015%2F1213%2Fr35625_1296x729_16-9.jpg&w=1140

  229. 229 James Skip Carl said at 10:24 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    So next week’s game means nothing, all we have to do is win our final two and we win the division

  230. 230 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:25 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    its good if we win… but wont matter as much if we lose. Well have to win our last 2

  231. 231 anon said at 10:28 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    i’d like to play ari tough. last two years games have been good i think they are a much better team w/ this year, better players, better coach, better gm. but if we can play them tough i won’t think going to playoffs as a “moral victory”

  232. 232 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:29 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I wanna win against them badly.

    I’m not sure how we cover all their WRs though. Speed kills

  233. 233 sonofdman said at 10:28 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    That is essentially right. The only benefit to winning would be that if the redskins lose next week and the giants lose 2 of their next 3, the eagles could clinch the division if they beat the redskins in week 16.

  234. 234 Tumtum said at 10:56 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    And they are the best team in the NFC, better than panthers imo.

  235. 235 ChoTime said at 10:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    I don’t understand. There are three games left, correct? If we lose one and one of the other teams wins out, then the game we lost mattered?

  236. 236 sonofdman said at 10:39 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    We play Washington and New York. If either of them wins out, we lose anyway.

    For example, If we lose to AZ and Washington wins out, we lose the division by two games. If we beat AZ and Wash wins out, we lose the division by one game.

    If we beat AZ and beat Washington and New York, and Was wins their other two games we win the division by one. If we lose to AZ but beat Wash and New York and Wash wins their other two games, we finish tied with Wash and win the division on tie breaker (4-2 vs 3-3 division record).

    So, the AZ game doesn’t matter that much.

  237. 237 A_T_G said at 10:39 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    In order for the other teams to win out, they would need to beat us. If they do, we are out even if we win next week.

  238. 238 sonofdman said at 10:39 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    beat you by a second 🙂

  239. 239 ChoTime said at 11:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Oh, damn I’m not good at this. Thanks.

  240. 240 Ark87 said at 10:02 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Hypothetical:
    Week 14 15 16 17
    Eagles: W L W L 7-9
    Wash: W W L W 8-8
    Giants: L L L W 6-10

    A scenario where the rankings end up counter to the head to head results, no?

  241. 241 A_T_G said at 10:30 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Yes, that looks correct.

    Your hypothetical doesn’t fit Cho’s context of the other teams winning out, nor James’ assertion of us winning our final two, though.

  242. 242 Ark87 said at 10:34 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    right, just tacking onto the conversation which began under the premise that next week means nothing. Next week could be incredibly important

  243. 243 SteveH said at 10:24 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Having watched the Texans Pats game thus far there is only one thing I can say with certainty: I’m glad Brian Hoyer isn’t our quarterback because that dude is terrible.

  244. 244 SteveH said at 10:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    He’s got the trifecta: He makes slow decisions, he makes bad decisions, and he’s inaccurate. All he needs now is a weak arm and he’d embody every terrible trait you could ask for in a quarterback.

  245. 245 Patrick said at 2:19 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Its no secret that i’m not huge fan of Bradford and cannot wait until we get a real QB, but yikes. At least Bradford is a starter in the NFL, an actual NFL player.

    Hoyer is crazy bad, but I guess it could be worse. Could be Mallett or Weeden out there. Legitimately a team where Mark Sanchez would be the best QB on the roster. Thats gotta hurt.

  246. 246 anon said at 2:23 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    GM should be fired for how hes wasted that no 1 pick

  247. 247 SteveH said at 2:33 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Couldn’t agree more, at least Bradford is a functional starter. If the Texans had a functional starter at QB they’d be a playoff team.

  248. 248 ChoTime said at 10:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Det just lost to STL’s backup QB. TB just lost to NO.

    WTF?

  249. 249 SteveH said at 10:35 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    To be fair I’m not sure it matters what quarterback they trot out in STL. 14/22 for 124 yards and an interception is your winning stat line. Dick Foles, Case Keenum, doesn’t matter the results are always the same.

  250. 250 JoeBlow said at 10:46 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Jadeveon Clowney…..so nice of you to show up!

  251. 251 JoeBlow said at 10:47 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Really wish Chip would have found a way to sign Jabaal Sheard…that guy shines in every Pats game i’ve watched this year

  252. 252 JoeBlow said at 10:57 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    another sack by Sheard….

  253. 253 BobSmith77 said at 11:59 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Belichick offered many sacrifices to Beezlebub for that one. Chip couldn’t have matched it.

  254. 254 Insomniac said at 12:04 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Nah we just signed Graham instead.

  255. 255 BobSmith77 said at 12:08 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Graham played pretty well today overall. Eagles overpaid him too but after what they gave Murray and Maxwell that is the least of their contract worries.

    Maxwell to his credit generally played pretty well but it was hilarious to hear Rowe in the postgame genuinely sounded a bit confused when he was asked why the Bills were targeting Maxwell so much especially deep.

  256. 256 Insomniac said at 12:11 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m pretty sure Chip wanted Graham back pretty badly. I don’t think we offered any other OLBs starting money besides Graham in FA.

  257. 257 scratcherk said at 11:02 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    texans offense really gives you some perspective on how not-shitty your team is.

  258. 258 BobSmith77 said at 11:33 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/buffalo-bills-philadelphia-eagles-lesean-mccoy-make-a-wish-week-14-121315

    A friend sent me this about what McCoy did before the game. Just watch the video.

    Kevin O’Reilly mentioned in the 5th quarter today that McCoy had a lot of family/friends at the game today. Even some of his old coaches from Bishop McDevitt who he is still close with and spoke very highly of McCoy. Basically O’Reilly said McCoy just has a really big heart, was utterly stunned he was traded, hurt about how it went down, and has a hard time getting over it.

    I have to say it did change my mind about how McCoy acted even if he could have handled things more maturely after the game.

  259. 259 ChoTime said at 11:36 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    Shows another side of him.

  260. 260 BobSmith77 said at 11:49 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    it does and I didn’t see/hear a single mention of this at in any of

    the Philly media. Instead Brookover trashes him here, he got trashed on the WIP post game, and via Twitter.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/361739991.html

    More and more I tend to agree the Philly media is tends to play up with the negative angle & push it as much as they can.

  261. 261 ChoTime said at 11:51 PM on December 13th, 2015:

    It also occurs to me that making that kid’s day is worth a lot more than being friends with his ex-coach.

  262. 262 laeagle said at 1:57 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Well, I think it’s a matter of what you want to hear. Most of the national media was trashing Chip as opposed to McCoy. “How come he not call? Why he not make call on phone box?” That was the story.

    I get it the Shady is a complex character. But let’s also be honest. As good as guy as he can be, he’s, frankly, and with utter truth, a dick. He’s a fucking dick. Sorry for the bad language, but there’s nothing else that conveys the message of what Shady actually is to most humans. He’s a dick. Everything he does is reconcilable when you accept that he’s just a a dick.

    Loved him as a player, and he’s great. As a player. He’s driven. Because he’s a dick. Outside of the arena, he’s simply not a person you’d want to be around in any capacity unless you just don’t care about how people interact as humans.

    Again, the player? Great. One of the best. I truly believe he’s the closest this generation has to a Barry Sanders. Outside the game? He’s just a dick.

  263. 263 Insomniac said at 12:07 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Welcome to Philly. Hate all the ex-players when they’re on other teams and love them while they’re here.

    Chip needs to get over himself and learn to deal with people soon. I’m sick of hearing this unapproachable dictatorship crap. He’s not pulling in elite talent with it and it’s barely doing more good than harm.

  264. 264 Anders said at 1:38 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Why can’t one love the player but not the person? Did you also miss chips open apology to lesean?

  265. 265 Insomniac said at 6:47 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    His history with ex-players leaving the team (good and bad) is a continuing trend. Chip’s apology was nothing more than PR to get this thing to stop. This isn’t college where you can dispose of talented players and replace them with just guys. Hopefully he gets the memo in the next 2 years.

  266. 266 Anders said at 7:11 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Since when have you become to negative towards Kelly? Which players he has cut, has played great after leaving?

    Remember Maclin does not count here and this is not about Murray versus McCoy

  267. 267 Insomniac said at 1:57 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Negative? Probably. Highly critical after his gambles keep blowing up in his face? Yes.

  268. 268 Anders said at 4:16 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Again tell me which player he shouldn’t have cut?

  269. 269 NineseveN said at 11:50 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    So when did we hate on Avant? Cole? Herremans? Boykin? Maclin? Hell, even Vick didn’t get the negative backlash that Shady and DeSean did outside of those that already hated him while he was here, which makes it pretty clear that if you’re shitty after you leave, we’ll treat you like shit. Mathis was a bit of a jerk, but he stopped that nonsense and acted like a professional shortly (though not immediately) afterwards.

  270. 270 Bert's Bells said at 1:28 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    It’s possible to do good things and be a complete jerk at the same time.

  271. 271 ICDogg said at 6:29 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I used to walk my dog at (a different) Bishop McDevitt HS. I called the place “Bishop McDogshit”.

  272. 272 daveH said at 7:50 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Dog owners let their dogs piss rihht in front of our building … like in the doorway barely outside .. the entire city under 1 foot is sosked in yrears of dogburine

  273. 273 Joe Minx said at 12:00 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    One of the local Sunday sports shows has Marcus Hayes & Brandon Lee Gowton on giving “expert” analysis of the Eagles. Unbelievable how these hacks can get on TV.

    If they’re gonna put a clown blogger like Gowton on then I demand somebody get Tommy on TV immediately. He could run circles around these dopes.

  274. 274 ChoTime said at 12:03 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m guessing that if Tommy lived in Philly and wanted to be part of “the media” that he could be.

  275. 275 Joe Minx said at 12:29 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Do a satellite uplink or Skype lol. Tommy’s better than all of these blowhards.

  276. 276 ChoTime said at 12:42 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Tommy needs an agent! And someone to change his web banner. I told Foles about Igglesblitz, but I don’t think he knew what the hell I was talking about.

  277. 277 BlindChow said at 3:06 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    *Foles logs into Igglesblitz*

    “Let’s see what this is all abou–”

    *sees a Geagle comment*

    *logs off*

  278. 278 ChoTime said at 3:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Disqus definitely needs an ignore function.

  279. 279 BobSmith77 said at 12:05 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Wouldn’t watch Hayes for the simple fact that he tends to be dour, pessimistic, and at times just mean-spirited. If his analysis was something to listen to, maybe he could get away with it but I rarely found he adds much of merit especially when it comes to baseball.

  280. 280 Insomniac said at 12:20 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Khalil Mack had 5 sacks today. I think we should have traded up for him..

  281. 281 AsianEagle said at 4:01 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think he was like a top 5 pick

  282. 282 Bert's Bells said at 5:10 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Swap 1sts, Cooper and a 6th would get it done, right?

  283. 283 Insomniac said at 6:32 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    And nothing of value would have been lost if we gave up 2 first round picks and whatever to get him.

  284. 284 Tdoteaglefan said at 7:22 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Lol wouldve been impossible, but he was my favourite defensive player in that draft. Remember Mayock saying he would take him # 1 overall over clowney and everyone else and people thinking he was crazy for saying that

  285. 285 A_T_G said at 10:24 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Is it too late to offer Marcus Smith straight up?

  286. 286 Tumtum said at 10:24 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Chip the GM suxxorz.

    You were joking though right?

  287. 287 Ankerstjernen said at 3:10 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Rowes play makes it all the more entertaining to go back in Brian Baldingers twitter feed from the lions game and see how he keeps posting about Rowe being a horrible player who clearly can not play and doesnt belong in the league. Everyone here with a twitter account should feel free to go and point out to him what an idiot he is. (I know I have.)

  288. 288 D3FB said at 3:37 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    “Bryce Brown is like Bo Jackson”
    “Jamar Chaney has a chance to be the best MLB in the NFL”

    Baldy is good in film sessions breaking down X’s and O’s
    Baldy is too hyperbolic and overreacts too much to put any weight in his player evaluations

  289. 289 Ankerstjernen said at 4:09 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    So.. He is pretty much just like every other tv-analyst then?

  290. 290 A_T_G said at 6:40 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Implying that all TV analysts do film study is a gross mischaracterization.

  291. 291 Ankerstjernen said at 7:03 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Right. I was more referring to the hyperbolic, unresearched, ill-informed, unnuanced click-bait-inducing hot takes.

  292. 292 ChoTime said at 9:01 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Welcome to the world of you-get-what-you-pay-for.

  293. 293 Aaron said at 9:05 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I own you

  294. 294 Tumtum said at 10:23 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    At the end of the day he is just a normal passionate Eagles fan. You are exactly right, give him the X’s and O’s that he was programmed to break down his whole life and he is great. Ask him to analyze and he is kinda just a meat head.

  295. 295 Eagles News: Rex Ryan gave a big compliment to Fletcher Cox - said at 6:51 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    […] Eagles Win the Shady Bowl – Iggles BlitzThe Eagles beat Buffalo 23-20, in a tough, dramatic game where LeSean McCoy ended up being more of a sidenote than the focus. Shady was front and center all week, but he ended up with 20 carries for 74 yards. He played well in the 1st half, but simply had no room to run in the 2nd. This wasn’t a pretty game by any stretch. Dropped passes once again hurt the Eagles. Tyrod Taylor’s combination of running and passing skills led the Bills to 412 yards, but only 20 points. The Eagles defense made key plays, including the game-winning INT by Ed Reynolds. Wait, was this the preseason? Who told Reynolds he could make a big play in a big game? […]

  296. 296 H_Manders said at 7:44 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Generally agree with your assessment. A few things I noticed though:

    – The receivers simply refuse to make plays. As one of the 97.5 WIP guys noticed after the game, it becomes more and more obvious that Bradford is not the biggest problem in the passing game. Bradford has to make perfect passes, and then it is still a 50/50 proposition at best if the receiver makes the catch/play for him. Very noticeable yesterday.

    – Bradford still needs work on his deep ball, it is not there yet; I am not sure yet to what extent it is Bradford not trusting his WR’s on deep routes, him playing it too safe or something else.

    – Such a difference compared to Nick Foles last year, seeing Bradford try and step up in the pocket.

    – Still not sure whether Bradford’s play warrants focussing on other positions in the off-season, and take a QB late in the draft.

    – Rowe looked good.

    – It seems that for the final two defensive series Billy Davis had Maxwell take on Watkins, and Rowe taking on Wood (or the outside WR on the other side); they followed them around on the field it seems. Wondering whether that had to do with Rowe’s injury or a change in scheme.

  297. 297 Tumtum said at 10:21 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Nice post man. Haven’t seen you around. Join us by the fireside more. Anyway…

    Bradford’s deep ball does seem really good to me. All, save maybe one over throw where it seemed intentional, were put in a position for the receiver to catch the ball. The announcers went on and on about TT’s deep ball (rightfully so), but I felt like Sammy did him in that area yesterday.

    That brings me to the receivers. You are right they aren’t making plays. I think many people agree with me that JM, Huff, and Aghs have talent. I think coaching really comes into question. Riley isn’t the deep threat they think he is.

    Call better plays, and maybe look at a new WR coach in the off-season.

  298. 298 Dave said at 10:50 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    You can’t coach drops beyond repetition and concentration techniques. Coaching is not the problem, suspect hands are…

    edit: spelling

  299. 299 Tumtum said at 1:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    There is certainly technique to catching. It is harder to coach, but it obviously hasn’t been a big enough point of interest.

    Look at JM. He was dropping everything to start the year and is now pulling down everything. Coincidence that he has been hitting the jugs machine really hard? I doubt it.

  300. 300 BlindChow said at 3:03 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    From everything I’ve read, he was hitting the jugs machine all last year, and all through camp. And yet he STILL dropped a ton of passes at the beginning of this year (and the beginning of last, now that I think about it).

    Unless something’s changed from how he was using the jugs machine before and how he’s using it now, I don’t think the jugs machine has been the difference.

  301. 301 Tumtum said at 3:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t recall drops being an issue last year. Also never heard about the jugs until before his big game. Guess no one writes about him when he sucks, but that is what I heard.

  302. 302 BlindChow said at 5:20 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Ugh, it was all they wrote about the last two summers: Matthews and the jugs machine….

  303. 303 Tumtum said at 8:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’ve heard about all the extra work, just not that. Do you recall a bunch of dropped balls last year or in college?

  304. 304 Tumtum said at 8:20 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Disregard other response. If I weren’t lazy I’d look up the drops last year. Don’t remember them.

  305. 305 NineseveN said at 11:55 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think we go WR in the first round of 2016 unless a godly OL prospect comes up for this reason. If we just had that one dynamic speedy WR threat who would also block and buy in to the culture we’d be pretty tough. Firm up our OL in the later rounds and we’re built for a high level of play.

  306. 306 Tumtum said at 1:02 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I counter that by saying that I think Ags and Huff are both dynamic and speedy. I think JMs speed is under rated. I think all 3 of those guys should range from solid to very-good NFL WR. I tend to blame their failures to this point on the coaches.

  307. 307 scratcherk said at 1:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think they certainly pass the eye test as far as talent. They need to shore up the drops and they can be very good.

  308. 308 NineseveN said at 1:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Sure, they’ve got great potential, but do you see an ODB or Sammy Watkins in there, honestly?

  309. 309 scratcherk said at 10:53 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    If Bradford continues to play well, it would really help in the draft. Cross QB off the list.

    If Rowe continues playing well, CB seems set: Rowe and Maxwell (unfortunately) outside. Nolan/Shepard in the slot. Biggers for depth.

    Safety seems set. ILB seems set. Dline seems set.

    Need depth at OLB desperately.

    On offense, help at WR and OL.

    So needs going into the draft would end up being — OL, OLB, WR.

    We could definitely handle that. Lot of ifs but Bradford panning out would really help.

  310. 310 ChoTime said at 11:07 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Defense got its turn, the O is dragging this team down. I am not sure you want to draft any more WRs, they’ve drafted 3 recently and they need time to develop. They are possibly not very talented, but how much do you really want to tie up in that position? I would go heavy on OL, get a developmental QB, and maybe try to get a good vet WR.

  311. 311 scratcherk said at 11:25 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Agree that focus should be on OL and OLB if possible and develop a QB. But as Hicks proved BPA is the only way to draft.

  312. 312 b3nz0z said at 11:07 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    i wouldn’t be mad if they grabbed a qb to groom for two years behind sammy

  313. 313 eagleyankfan said at 8:15 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    “One of the best things about this game is that the Eagles weren’t satisfied with last week’s big upset.” — Amen! I’m sure all the Shady talk helped too, but it was nice to see this team have a Chip on it’s shoulder(see what I did there)….

  314. 314 DJH said at 9:19 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Still trying to understand the Tampa and Detroit games. The defensive game plans the last two games seem to have been better. We’re the game plans for Tampa and Detroit just bad? (Jenkins made a comment after Pats game along the lines of “allowing players to play to their strengths instead of asking them to do something they can’t.” Major paraphrase there. It was at birds 24/7.)

    Also, Cox has just been on a rampage last two games. Always has been a beast, but has Davis just unleashed him past two weeks? And allowing Thurmond to roam too?

    Seriously, what else could it be?

  315. 315 Mac said at 9:25 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    You might be on to something. “Speak softly and unleash your beastly Cox.”

  316. 316 ChoTime said at 9:28 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Some have blamed it all on Sanchez, but I feel that’s ridiculous. Lots of teams with backups just as bad, even worse, go out there and do not lose by 30 points a game.

  317. 317 Tumtum said at 10:17 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The offense was even worse than usual in those games, but that is to be expected with the back up. The obvious lack of respect by the skill guys towards Sanchez really was disheartening. Even Sproles was making faces on the way back to the huddle. That guy learned humility from LT… very surprising.

  318. 318 b3nz0z said at 9:29 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    look, nine times out of ten i can eat nachos, no problem. once in a blue moon, though, i’ll bite the shit out of my lip. does that mean i forgot how to eat nachos? of course not. sometimes things happen. just keep eating nachos and it’ll work out in the end.

  319. 319 ChoTime said at 9:32 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Cool story, bro. One time, I was eating nachos and I messed up so bad I actually bit my own mouth off. It really sucked and I had to eat nachos with an IV for the next eight months.

  320. 320 Tumtum said at 10:15 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Can I have a link to the nacho IV site please? I have been spending far too much time eating my nachos the conventional way.

  321. 321 A_T_G said at 10:33 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The problem with the nacho IV is that it takes away your ability to silence the commentators doing the broadcast by chewing. That is a non-starter for me.

  322. 322 Tumtum said at 1:01 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Hmm good point.

  323. 323 b3nz0z said at 10:24 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    let me just say i’m flattered that the nacho analogy was embraced by so many of you.

  324. 324 A_T_G said at 10:34 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    To bring things full circle, I am pretty sure that after the TFL of Shady, Cox said to him, “This is nacho field anymore.”

  325. 325 DJH said at 10:12 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    These guys (coaches and players) are professional nacho eaters. They have 16 chances to eat nachos. They plan and practice all week on just exactly how they are going to eat those nachos. Biting your lip two nachos in a row to the tune of 90 points doesn’t just “happen.”

    It’s in everyone’s best interest to have a pretty good idea of what went so horribly wrong. ILB seems a good place to look, yes.

  326. 326 Tumtum said at 10:14 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    The offense is shit. They have been all year. The defense has to carry. When the hand that feeds the mouth the nacho has to literally do everything and the mouth still bites the lip when the hand acts flawlessly (Miami), I think the effect on the hand should not be underestimated.

  327. 327 b3nz0z said at 10:25 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    exactly. i bit my lip all by myself on the couch. imagine if calvin johnson was all up in my face while i was eating. it would be a miracle to not bite something!

  328. 328 Tumtum said at 10:29 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    ummm….Cox… he he.

  329. 329 A_T_G said at 10:12 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I am hoping that your analogy to nachos is related to the bad games, and not to Cox.

  330. 330 b3nz0z said at 10:23 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    definitely. these days if i don’t have fletch around to pre-crush the tortilla chips, i won’t even attempt it.

  331. 331 nicolajNN said at 10:35 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I am hoping that by Fletch you mean Cox and not Brandon Fletcher, that could have disastrous results

  332. 332 A_T_G said at 10:37 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Although, Brandon Fletcher has the time on his hands these days to be hired as a nacho crusher. Also, you could count on getting a few big ones over the top.

  333. 333 b3nz0z said at 10:38 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    i very much did. when i say fletch, i mean, in order of probability:
    1. Fletcher Cox
    2. Chevy Chase in a movie
    3. that’s it

  334. 334 HawaiianEagle said at 10:39 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    And sometimes those nachos turn to shit.

  335. 335 b3nz0z said at 10:39 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    pretty much every time!

  336. 336 scratcherk said at 10:56 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    This thread is making me hungry.

  337. 337 bill said at 9:35 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Some of it was the flux at ILB – they lacked the field general that could also play at a high level. Kiko is still rounding back into shape/speed, he was worse then. Kendricks is a playmaker, but it’s obvious at this point that he doesn’t have the instincts to be a complete ILB. There were also injuries on the DL that affected things. But some of it is as simple as b3nz0z says – guys had bad games. It just snowballed out of control with the problems at ILB. I think a similar thing happened last year, where the secondary just started getting torched when they stopped trusting the LBs to cover the underneath stuff. I’m starting to think ILB is the most important position in this defense. Things seem to really get out of control when the ILBs aren’t up to their assignments.

  338. 338 truehaynes said at 10:52 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    It’s wild how much we miss a rookie 3rd round pick. Is Hicks the second coming of Jesus?

  339. 339 ChoTime said at 11:05 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    A Jewish Eagles fan might say he’s the first.

  340. 340 Tumtum said at 10:04 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Lots of it is coaching and bad offense. I think the Miami game really deflated the D and put them in a slump.

  341. 341 H_Manders said at 11:22 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think a few things happened:

    – The way Sanchez literally threw the game against the Dolphins away in many ways seems to completely eliminate any trust/confidence in the offense by the defense in the offense. Although something subconscious, I think the defense quit on Sanchez and perhaps even the offense (as a whole – all the plays for Murray, Miles Austin, O-line failure, Sanchez being Sanchez and so on).

    – The loss of Hicks was – in the end – probably bigger than anybody thought possible. Made worse by the fact that this lead to him being replaced by a returning (and rusty) Kendricks and Alonso; both of them regularly playing out of control, There also might be something in the notion that Alonso simply does not trust his knee, affecting his play negatively.

    – Detroit was in many ways the perfect storm. The offense being atrocious, Rowe being forced on, and it being on national TV, on a short week.

    The Detroit game saw the team quitting completely as a group – nullifying any individual effort. I think that game, as well as the crowd response during the Tampa game truly drove the point home; the look on Kelly’s face and his attitude after that game. That was someone who was completely beaten into a pulp, and who just saw his work completely torn apart and shredded into dust.

    For the turnaround since:

    – Bradford was back, and I think the defense was willing to play for Bradford, at least at the start of the game.

    – The defense saw that players on offense were (finally) held accountable. Austin thrown out, Murray side-lined, Cooper’s reduced role and such.

    – We have really lucked out with Rowe, with his attitude on the field. That Detroit game could have destroyed him. And him not falling apart – even though collective defensive failure set him up for destruction – might also have had its effect upon the defense.

    – Putting Maragos back solely on ST and putting in Ed Reynolds think is an overlooked but more important upgrade than people think, both for ST and the defense. Ed Reynolds has looked better out there than Maragos, and seems to be improving as well (see Watkins play vs the INT. Was around the ball and made some plays late in the game as well. It also allows for Malcolm Jenkins to be moved up as 3rd CB / Safety, and keep AJ Biggers off the field.

    – Malcolm Jenkins speaking out in public might also have had an effect as well.

    And of course, who knows what went on between players and coaches, and between the coaches.

  342. 342 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:32 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The only way I can interpret is that the team was completely deflated by the Bradord injury and had zero faith in Sanchez, instead of rallying around the backüp QB, they all decided to lay down and play the worst game of their careers lol.. Yet SAM comes back the next week, we go down 14-0 in Foxborough and leads us to a comeback win over the patriots, and follows it up with awin against the bills..
    ..
    I don’t see how else it can be interpretted besides losing bradford sucked the life out of this team and they had no confidence with Sanchez.
    ..
    We got out to a 19-3 lead against Miami, bradford gets hurt, we implode and lose the game… We not only lose the next two games without bradford, to was the worst two games in eagle history.. SAM comes back and now we are beating quality teams?
    ..
    I don’t know how true it is, but I also don’t know how else I can interpret it. When SAM is 5-1 in his last 6 games. Facts are facts

  343. 343 ChoTime said at 9:19 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Over his last four starts, Sam has a 96.9% rating.

    Sam currently sports a manly, Revenant-style beard. Coincidence?

    http://cdn.phillymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/B80E3222.jpg

  344. 344 b3nz0z said at 9:27 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    no. the beard is part of the scheme

  345. 345 Bert's Bells said at 10:32 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’s tired of getting asked for his autograph, then being told he spelled “Ryan Reynolds” wrong.

  346. 346 truehaynes said at 10:50 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    And that’s with horrid received and te play (cough cough celek). I guess eetz has been good but he’s still dropping too many passes

  347. 347 Tumtum said at 1:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Not Celek’s best game.

  348. 348 BobSmith77 said at 3:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Definitely looks better with the beard. ‘Grizzled veteran’ rating went up just 10 points alone.

  349. 349 Tumtum said at 10:27 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Saw lots of MS2 yesterday… None of it was good, but he was in there. He was even in the game late when we really needed a play. I think there was a play where TT sat in the pocket for a year and then got flushed by someone else and I couldnt take my eyes off MS2. It literally looked like was just doing the tango with the RT. No moves, no power. Just standing there holding each other, moving to the stadium music.

  350. 350 Dave said at 10:46 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    MS2?

  351. 351 b3nz0z said at 10:46 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    marcus

  352. 352 Dave said at 10:46 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    thx

  353. 353 anon said at 12:20 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Gotta play him so they can see what he has. He needs to get w Dee Ford in the off-season

  354. 354 b3nz0z said at 12:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he needs to get with yoga, mma, bench presses, leg presses, and cannibal corpse (for the aggression)

  355. 355 Ark87 said at 1:13 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I got the agression/motivation covered this off season. I’ll send this to him on twitter.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0

    Just do it Marcus. Nothing is impossible

  356. 356 Tumtum said at 12:58 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Is he a pass-rush “whisperer”? He needs everything other than size. Probably could use some more weight though?

    Next summer he needs to show that he can help this team. Otherwise, get out of town.

  357. 357 Tumtum said at 3:33 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Ummm just read the day after post on 24/7. MS2 played 4 snaps. He stuck out as not good on all 4 to me… that sucks. Really wish he would not suck.

  358. 358 HawaiianEagle said at 10:38 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Don’t know if it’s already been discussed…
    On the Reynolds pick to seal the game, Vinny Curry is all over Taylor.

  359. 359 A_T_G said at 10:40 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Vinny would be the talk of the defense that game if not for the fact that he was lined up near Fletcher Cox.

  360. 360 Ark87 said at 12:43 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    which leads to the next question, how much of his success come from being lined up near Fletcher Cox? I’m a pretty big Curry fan. I’d like to think they synergize.

  361. 361 Crus57 said at 12:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He probably gets more 1-on-1s due to Cox being doubled, but at least he is starting to beat them more often and penetrate regularly.

  362. 362 Ark87 said at 1:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Some of the early talk is saying Cox didn’t have to face as many double teams as usual and he ate Incognito alive for it. Not to take away from Cox, but at least Curry may have had some success without the entire O keyed in on Cox.

  363. 363 A_T_G said at 12:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t know if Curry has the size and strength to fight through double teams on a regular basis. Luckily, Cox makes that a moot point.

  364. 364 anon said at 10:56 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Best

    Allen Barbre +3.9
    Sam Bradford +2.6
    Jason Kelce +2.5

  365. 365 anon said at 10:56 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Worst

    Matt Tobin -3.2
    Brent Celek -2.2
    Nelson Agholor -1.6

  366. 366 b3nz0z said at 10:57 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    that’s expected

  367. 367 anon said at 10:57 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Best

    Vinny Curry +4.9
    Fletcher Cox +3.5
    Bennie Logan +2.6
    Brandon Graham +2.5
    Eric Rowe +1.2
    Walter Thurmond +1.1
    Ed Reynolds +1.1

  368. 368 anon said at 10:57 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Worst

    DeMeco Ryans -1.3

  369. 369 anon said at 10:57 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Im surprised Kiko wasn’t on this worst, played an up and down game at best.

  370. 370 SteveH said at 11:36 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    How they figure this shit out is beyond me, I guess Agholor’s 50 yard TD counts for what, +0.3?

  371. 371 Tumtum said at 12:55 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    drops probably hurt a lot

  372. 372 b3nz0z said at 10:56 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    that’s pretty good news

  373. 373 Bert's Bells said at 11:29 AM on December 14th, 2015:

    Has Kelce gone a single game without a bad snap or false start? I didn’t see Thanksgiving so he may me that was one.

  374. 374 A_T_G said at 12:33 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t remember a specific, but I am pretty sure that no one played a mistake-free game on Thanksgiving.

  375. 375 since1961 said at 12:22 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    It seemed the defense tightened up after halftime, but i didn’t catch the stats at the end of the half. Maybe it was just more penalties on the Bills after the break? I was wondering if Billy D actually made some adjustments that worked??

  376. 376 b3nz0z said at 12:23 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he’s done that several times this season.

  377. 377 A_T_G said at 12:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think Billy has been pretty good with the adjustments.

    And yes, things tightened up. Shady had something like 10 yards in the second half and the entire Bills team had about 60 yards on their 4 fourth quarter drives.

    Of course, Chip said there was no adjustments made, they just started executing the plan better. Take what you want.

  378. 378 Bert's Bells said at 1:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    It’s nice to hear people talk about how good the coaching staff is at making in-game adjustments. Something we never heard under AR.

  379. 379 Tumtum said at 12:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Nothing super obvious. Think they were a little tighter on the x plays. The Bills are not a familiar team. Getting to know them for the first half probably helped too…oh and Charles Clay getting hurt really helped.

  380. 380 GermanEagle said at 1:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    6-7 never felt so good.

  381. 381 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Chip: “look at all the QBs having success THIS year, they have all been in their system for YEARS! SAM has been in this system for MONTHS, look at Cam and Dalton who are in thieir 5th years in this system”
    ..
    Reporter: so is it safe to say you want SAM past this year?
    Chip: “we always wanted SAM past this year. We wouldn’t have traded what we traded for him if we didn’t want him past this year”..
    ..
    So AGAIN: “Bradford getting thru this year healthy is still and was always THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THIS FRANCHISE”..

  382. 382 Ark87 said at 1:28 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The WR’s have been a big disappointment for us, the O-line issues shouldn’t surprise anyone. You wonder if 1 more WR (FA or maybe Ags takes a massive leap next year) and a good O-line, get that run game going, the protection to get the time to feel more comfortable going deep, and a #1 wide to take some attention, I could see this Offense getting to where we want it, but it’s a tall order. I think Sam can get it there, but he will need help.

  383. 383 Insomniac said at 2:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Guess we’re going OLB/OL in the first round..or maybe he pulls a Foles on us again in year 3.

  384. 384 b3nz0z said at 2:12 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    if we draft foles again i’m gonna be pissed

  385. 385 botto said at 3:56 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    now That’s funny.

  386. 386 Mac said at 3:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    There are a few folks here on the board with me who won’t be surprised by this announcement at all. This year is just the warm-up for Chip/Bradford. But, if the defense and special teams keep coming up big we might even get to see some playoff football.

  387. 387 ac134spectre said at 1:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Playoff and super bowl is in reach baby!

    I just really don’t know what to think. The roster has holes and talent mismatches. You got a lot of money invested in a power I back running lateral. Bad.

    You have a bunch of holes at oline and one long term tackle.
    The defense is darn good but can’t leave em on the field.
    Need a QB still.
    No second round pick.

    Chip has zero playoff wins. He needs to turn that soon, but, I don’t see a one year path.

  388. 388 botto said at 1:23 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Bradford’s the QB.

  389. 389 ChoTime said at 2:25 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “He’s the starting quarterback for the next 1,000 years here,” Kelly said, via NFL Media’s Albert Breer.

    Not about Sam. And well short of 100 decades ago.

  390. 390 Ark87 said at 4:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    didn’t even make it 10 centuries

  391. 391 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:23 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Need a QB,still? Lol apparently you didn’t just watch Chips press Confrence 15 minutes ago. I won’t spoil the surprise, check it out before every media outlet uses it as a headline

  392. 392 botto said at 1:41 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    1000 years bro!

  393. 393 ac134spectre said at 1:44 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    What happened, at work all I can get is Tommy?

  394. 394 botto said at 1:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    nah just wants him here long term, like the next 1000 years or so

  395. 395 ac134spectre said at 1:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m taking a power drill to my temple.

  396. 396 botto said at 1:53 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he’s winning games, getting better every week.
    he’ll be brady after about 78 weeks at this rate.

  397. 397 ac134spectre said at 3:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Remind me to dull the bit.

  398. 398 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:55 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Scroll down, I quoted chip

  399. 399 ac134spectre said at 1:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Oh sweet buttery Jesus, did he resign him? 9r quit?

  400. 400 botto said at 1:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I hate the cardinals and arians but I would give up a loss to them to assure we beat the Redskins bad. that team deserves a beat down by Fletcher, and a big offensive game by Sammy B.

  401. 401 GermanEagle said at 1:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Totally agree.
    Since we can afford losing to the Cardinals by beating WAS and NYG gets us in the playoffs. It would be a heartbreaker if we’d beat ARI and then come up short either against the Skins or Giants whom I hate more than the Cardinals!

  402. 402 Ark87 said at 2:13 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    in all likelihood the outcome of the Arizona game will likely have little to no impact on those games, so we might as well get the W

  403. 403 Insomniac said at 1:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Honestly I think we can beat the Cardinals. The match ups are there but this is still the Eagles we’re talking about though.

  404. 404 botto said at 8:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    who is covering all those guys?

  405. 405 FairOaks said at 2:50 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Yep. We’re in if we beat the Redskins and Giants. I think it’s even possible that we can go 7-9 and still make it (with lots of help) as long as we beat the Redskins. If we lose to them, the only way we make it is by winning the other two and the Redskins losing the other two, and the Giants giving us some help too. So the Redskins is basically a must-win game (and will mathematically be must-win if we lose to Arizona).

    Beating the Redskins and losing to the Giants could still get us in, if we are tied for the lead record-wise, I think.

  406. 406 Tumtum said at 3:46 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I love Arians and the Cards… still hope we crush them. In reality, I just hope we give them a good game.

  407. 407 botto said at 3:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    eww really?
    Those guys all suck!

  408. 408 Tumtum said at 8:19 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I dunno, if he beats us and talks S then I’ll probably hate him. Just like his no BS style. I dunno why.

  409. 409 botto said at 8:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he talked S when we beat them in Philly, crying about the refs.

  410. 410 Tumtum said at 11:06 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    Yeah that wasn’t really about us. Didn’t bother me.

  411. 411 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Hahahahahahaha

    Lane Johnson “he looked like a Grizzly bear sprung out of a trap and just mauled him”- Lanes poetic description of Cox devouring Shady..

  412. 412 Ark87 said at 1:44 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He needs to buy his bear traps from somewhere else though. His experience with bear traps sounds pretty dangerous.

  413. 413 Ark87 said at 1:43 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Because stuff like this happens, special teams still get to be a part of football. Kudos to Watkins beating the double then covering 52 yards like a missile. Thigpen didn’t call for a fair catch because Watkins simply should not have been there that far down field. Donnie is killing it too, obviously.

    http://bloggingthebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Jaylen-gunner.gif

  414. 414 b3nz0z said at 2:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    great play. thigpen was really dumb on it though – not to diminish jaylen

  415. 415 Ark87 said at 2:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t think he even looked to see if someone was coming, it was a very deep punt in the middle of the field with both gunners doubled. I think the first glimpse of of Jaylen came in his peripheral vision while looking the ball in. You can almost see the moment Thigpen realized the Midnight green closing in on him.

  416. 416 Julescat said at 3:33 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    blocker turned Jaylen right into the returner

  417. 417 botto said at 1:50 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Is it me or is glass joe looking tougher now, taking a lot of hits and standing in like a QB? he was getting beat up and he didn’t get jittery. Go Sam.
    you have to root for him, because he is such an underdog and everyone had written him off, but here he is winning games.

  418. 418 b3nz0z said at 1:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    not everyone wrote him off. lots of people were ignored or worse for pointing out that it would take a few months for him to get into any kind of respectable form

  419. 419 botto said at 2:06 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    yeah but in general he has been written off.

  420. 420 b3nz0z said at 2:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    thank goodness.

  421. 421 Bert's Bells said at 1:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’s an underdog as only an American can be -top college recruit, Heisman winner, #1 overall pick…

  422. 422 b3nz0z said at 1:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    white man, too. a true rags-to-riches story

  423. 423 botto said at 2:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    you can be white and an underdog in the NFL.

  424. 424 Insomniac said at 2:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Chad Hall. Never forget.

  425. 425 botto said at 2:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he’s an underdog now, he wasn’t when he was drafted obviously.

  426. 426 anon said at 2:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Starting to try to make plays with his legs. I think him being more of a leader will force him to be more aggressive as well. Needs another year in the system i think next year we’ll be able to compete.

  427. 427 Mac said at 3:14 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Agreed. He also needs a full offseason of weight training to attain his peak potential. I haven’t seen too many people talking about how thin he looks. More muscle (for deep throws, better ball control, and running) and more time in the system and a real training camp to develop chemistry and I think we see a new QB next year in Bradford.

  428. 428 Insomniac said at 2:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I thought the general consensus was that he is what he was in STL. An inconsistent and has his moments QB.

  429. 429 anon said at 2:10 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I thought he was pretty good yesterday. I think him and the receiving corp need to spend a couple weeks together this offseason to develop some chemistry.

  430. 430 Insomniac said at 2:15 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’ll be better when he gets more time in the pocket. Hopefully Sam has some balls and tells Chip that the OL needs some studs and not duds during Christmas.

  431. 431 ChoTime said at 2:28 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    That play where Cox ran into the backfield, chased Shady, and pushed him on the ground reminded me of something that might happen in prison.

  432. 432 myartz04 said at 2:31 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    That was my favorite play of the day. Looked like a little boy getting pushed down by a man dog.

  433. 433 Tumtum said at 3:42 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    oops wrong place

  434. 434 ChoTime said at 2:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    By the way, has anyone verified the identity of the thing clinging to Jason Peters’ face?

  435. 435 Tumtum said at 3:44 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Beard is on point. Amazed he gets it shaved so close when he doesn’t have one.

  436. 436 ChoTime said at 2:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Bradford’s last four games, even with a shaky OL:
    65% comp. 898 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT, 96.9 rating.
    Supposedly overrated Russell Wilson’s last four games, even with shaky OL:
    75% comp 1171 yards, 16 TD, 0 INT

  437. 437 jpate said at 3:06 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Nobody would argue Bradford over Wilson here but that is by far the best stretch of Wilson’s career. He’s on a hot streak right now playing against some suspects defenses. Credit to him but I don’t see him doing this consistently (like rodgers or Brady).

  438. 438 ChoTime said at 3:29 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Really more a pro-Wilson comment than an anti-Sam. We are all happy to see Sam play competently, but look at what Wilson, Brady, Rothlisberger are doing. There’s a long way to go. Seahawks may be transitioning to a Wilson/passing-centric offense as he becomes more comfortable and skilled. Perhaps Bradford will grow and fulfill the expectations his college success engendered, and some thought he already had achieved.

  439. 439 Nailed It! said at 3:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Russel Wilson has been in that system for three plus years.

  440. 440 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 3:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Why even compare them? How about Nick Foles last four games vs Sam since that is the player we gave up to get Sam?

    And SEA has been beating up so so teams. Sam has faced the Bills, Pats, Car in his last four games. Defenses with good a secondary

  441. 441 Mac said at 3:25 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    So close to beating the panthers as well… I have no reason to fear Carolina if we get to play them again in the post season.

  442. 442 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 3:27 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Our WRs and TEs didn’t show up for that game. They had like 7 drops that game

  443. 443 Julescat said at 3:31 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    who did both play?

    SF, Baltimore can pad anyone’s stats

  444. 444 ChoTime said at 3:36 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Well, I wasn’t intending to take it that far, but we are playing the Cards next. Wilson threw for 240, 7.5 y/a, 1 TD against them.

    Sam has thrown for over 240 five times this year and exceeded 7.5 three times. He gets another shot next Sunday.

  445. 445 Tumtum said at 3:40 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    If you argument is that Sammy B is bad, those numbers you just posted really don’t support your argument. Not defending Sam because I am not a Sam supporter, just because those numbers you listed of his are solid. Extrapolated to a full season 3500 yards 20TDs and 4Ints… umm yeah those numbers are pretty solid. Especially on a team that is supposedly predicated on the run.

    By the way the last 4 weeks by Russle Wilson could stand next to some of the best 4 game stretches had by any QB ever, I would bet.

  446. 446 anon said at 5:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Sam not asked to do too much w/ his arm, i would like to see him be more aggressive. How SEA gets guys wide open downfield like that. I guess it’s all the bootlegs that RW does, by the time he runs that huge arc coverage has broken down downfield.

  447. 447 Tumtum said at 8:17 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Agreed. I want to see more. He was slinging it early and throwing picks. He went downfield more this game, the pick wasn’t on him.

    Sling it and let’s find out if he is the guy for real.

  448. 448 Mac said at 3:41 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Gotta give Sam time to heal up from his ACLs. Maybe next year I’d be willing to compare him to Wilson.

  449. 449 cshav10 said at 2:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Penalties caused by an opponent don’t equal sloppy play.

  450. 450 Media Mike said at 5:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    How about 5 to 7 holds not called? Buffalo’s o-line was very grabby.

  451. 451 cshav10 said at 3:02 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    I’m saying, if you have a dominant team or player and you force the other team to hold, grab, clip and so on – that’s not “sloppy.” Sloppy means it’s correctable. You can’t correct the fact that you can’t block Fletcher Cox one on one and you have to hold him or your QB will die from being thrown to the ground and stomped on repeatedly. Sloppy is a goofy word for “we got dominated.”

  452. 452 eagleyankfan said at 5:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    is this a general statement or something you’re referring to?

  453. 453 JoeBlow said at 3:46 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Would anyone want to cut Brent Celek after the season? Next year he earns $5 mil and its the same number towards the cap, he is in his final year of his deal and will turn 31 next season. Maybe offer him a 2 year deal? Or would some people maybe want to try and replace him with someone younger as soon as next year. I’m not sure Chip is eager to part with him, he’s struggled blocking this year especially early on, but during the chip era has been pretty good blocker and usually has reliable hands.

  454. 454 Bert's Bells said at 3:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Really have to see how it plays out.

    Might be able to trade him for a late round pick.

    If the only other TE on the roster Ertz, you’ve got to keep him.

  455. 455 GermanEagle said at 4:20 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    You probably won’t get more than a 7th rounder for a 31 year old TE who has taken a beating all his career and who’s scheduled to make $5m next season.

  456. 456 JoeBlow said at 4:25 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    vernon davis is 31, was traded along with a 7rounder to Denver for a 6th rounder and another 6th rounder in 2017

  457. 457 Jernst said at 4:38 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Essentially, in that deal, Vernon Davis’ value is a 6th round pick, since a 2016 7th rounder is usually considered to be equivalent to a 6th round pick in 2017 (any pick for this year is usually considered to be worth a round higher if the compensation is delayed for a year. So the 2016 7th rounder and 2017 6th rounder cancel out. Which leaves Davis for a 6th. I love Celek but I’d have to admit that even at 31 years old the upside to Davis is a lot higher.

  458. 458 anon said at 5:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    i’d roll w/ $2yrs $3m per. I do like it when players can retie on the team that drafted him. Plus he’s not terrible. Just not a $5m guy.

  459. 459 botto said at 3:58 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    if he does get traded or cut I have a feeling Chip makes sure he calls Him first.

  460. 460 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:13 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Id be surprised if Celek ISNT an eagle next year. Chip loves him and after a rough start he is now having a pretty solid season.
    ..
    What I think will happen is Celek gets to keep his contract until it’s time to pay to extend ERTZ, at that point, we cut Celek and allocate his money to ERTZ and then either replace ERTZ rookie contract with another rookie TE, or I wouldn’t be totally shocked if Celek wants to play another year for cheap so he can retire an Eagle, stay in philly where he has his RESTAURAJT, maybe joing local media.
    ..
    I would think he either joins his Brother in KC for his last two years, or he takes a massive paycut reflecting a BLOCKING TE and stays in Philly

  461. 461 JoeBlow said at 4:38 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I agree, i don’t think he is going anywhere and could possibly get an extension beyond next year.

    I only asked because i was playing one of those “manage the cap” games online and i thought it was an interesting situation. I ended up cutting him and signing Dwayne Allen to about the same money Celek was making. Allen is 26 next season and IMO has been grossly underused in Indy, mainly because their o-line is so putrid and Allen is asked to stay in as a blocker mostly and Cody Fleener is sort of used as that TE/WR hybrid, taking away receptions and productions from Allen’s resume. Allen is a really good blocker and is able to catch the ball, caught 8 TD’s last season. He has been extremely frustrated this season, voicing so this past week and the 51-16 defeat to Jacksonville didn’t help. People have already been saying he doesn’t want to be back in Indy.

    I know i am getting way way way ahead of myself here, but i was a fan of the guy at Clemson and think he could be of good use for Chip…..just a thought.

  462. 462 Jernst said at 4:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think Celek is given the DeMeco Ryans’ treatment. DeMeco had one year left on his deal going into this year for about $5mil. He was given two options. Redo his deal and get a two year $5mil deal (so $2.5mil each year) or get cut. Celek would get an extra year, which would presumably allow him to retire as an Eagle and would probably still get more than he would as a FA. And $2.5mil isn’t bad for a backup TE who’s still one of the best blocking TEs in the game and has some passing catching ability too if you get him the ball.

  463. 463 Media Mike said at 5:47 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think you can go at his neck to take the same type of cut / extension that Meco did this year.

  464. 464 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    SAM just keeps improving…
    .
    5-1 in the last complete 6 games he played and left the miami lead after Gettimg us To a 19-3 lead. if SAM plays the entire miami game and wins, we would have ran the table on that entire division,and no one would have ever thought we would beat the Pats and run the table in that tôugh division.
    When we beat the jets they were undefeated with a top ranked defense.
    He comes back, after we have the worst two game losing streak in franchise history under sanchez and leads us to a win in Foxborough, and follows that up with a win against Buffalo..Amazimg two weeks..
    ..
    The biggest sigń of Bradfords value is that it seems like the team was completely demoralized and deflated by his injury and laid down and quit instead of rallying around Sanchez, then SAM comes back. Rally’s the team and has many raving about his leadership, lead us to a big win in Brady’s house, come back home and lead us to a big win spoiling Shadys return..
    ..
    Few weeks back he led us to avenge the 2013 playoff loss against Drew Bree’s and the saints, then followed that win with walk off overtime TD win at JerryWorld..
    ..
    His one Loss has been against undefeated Carolina, In a game I thought Bradford played really well, and we failed him with absurd amount of drops. SAM played well enough,to really give the Panthers a scare, shame that his supporting cast miserably łet him down with crazy amount of drops
    ..
    When you look at his 65% completipn after yesterday’s win, that doesn’t really do justice to as well as he played. The kid took a beating and never flinched. He stood tall in the pocket, eyes down field, gorgeous ball placement for most of the game, stats don’t do it justice because WR continue to fail him.
    ..
    Cooper sets the tone dropping a gorgeously thrown Bomb to start thegame.
    .
    AGHOLAR catches a beautiful 58 yard TD, later on he drops a ley 3rd and 6 on I think it was a slant, that hit him right in his hands ending our drive
    ..
    celek should be ashamed of himself letting a tiny DB take the ball out of his hands when Bradford threw a ball he should have caught and hasn’t thrown an INT in a while. The refs should have turned it over and ruled an incomplete, but Really Celek should have heen a Man, made that catch to give us first and goal inside the 5
    ..
    Huff also had a drop before he caught it and made the play where he fumbled after he was already out of bounds, pretty sure jordan also had a drop

    SAM is really playimg well,and we are way passed a Fluke. He has been balling for weeks, and he sure seems valuable if you listen to how his teammates talk about hm. And look at what happened during the games he missed with an injury… the Offensive Line hasn’t heen horrible, but it hasn’t been great either, yet SAM is still playing well. love To see what he looks like when we add Talent to his OL… Obviously we need to improve his weapons, evident by the perfectly placed balls that amounted to drops which have killed us. Hopefully this improves by young players further developing, but we still might need to add a WR or two,.. teams all need a #1,#2 and #3 WRs. I’m confident that Agholar and Jordan will continue to improve and Fill those Roles, but I’m struggling with where Josh Huff belongs. Can he Develope into the 3rd starting WR? Or will he max out as a #4 WR, in which case we would have to add a starting Caliber WR???
    ..
    We could do nothing, and WR will improve because huff, jordan and nelson are still developing puppies, but we still might need to add 1 more weapon
    ..
    A better OL should make everything look better, but if guys don’t fix these drops, we will be forced to add more Talent

  465. 465 GermanEagle said at 4:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Well said, sir.
    I also think that it became quite obvious in the last games, both under Sanshite and Goodford, that QB is certainly not our biggest need. Instead I’d rank WR No. 1 followed by OL being a close No. 2 with regards to our biggest off-season needs.

  466. 466 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I think OL is more important. We cant let Sam get blasted like he has. Have to protect him and open holes in the run game.

    I think Matthews will bounce back. Ags should continue to grow. Huff looks like he is progressing. I think WR is No.2 or 3 on our needs

  467. 467 GermanEagle said at 4:36 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    WR is No. 2 at the very least. We need someone who can make plays and also take over a game sometimes. Look at my post above and you will see which Free Agent could make a huge difference for the Eagles next year. 😉

  468. 468 b3nz0z said at 5:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    man imagine this offense if Ds were actually scared of one of our WRs

  469. 469 Mac said at 4:40 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t want any Sam Blasting in Philly. Especially on the field.

  470. 470 b3nz0z said at 5:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    agreed. OL improves the pass game and the run game. better WRs would rule but other than pulling the safety out of the box they don’t affect the run game as much (cooper’s all-pro blocking aside, of course)

  471. 471 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:46 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    That’s fair… Id probably put OL ahead of it, because WR can’t function without OL play. Id like to see them solidify the line and add a WR or two.
    ..
    On Defense, my guess is that we pay to extend curry and give him a deal we can get out of in two years, but we will have to let Thornton walk, so I’m Hoping Defforrest Buckner is available when we draft which will be unlikely if we miss the playoffs, had my eye on that kid for two years, I view him as pairing Cox and Logan with a baby Chandler Jones and these past two weeks we seen the BIGTIME effects of Dominant OL the way Cox dominated the Pats and Bills OL’s… Cox is going to have to be the star that leads us if we want to have a shot at beating the Cardinals. We stand no Chance unless Cox takes over which has become. Pretty common occurence
    ..
    Walt and Jenkins need extensions.
    ..
    Maxwell has been much better than he gets credit for. He has been pretty solid the past 8 games besides the entire team,quiting for sanchez for 2’weeks. The Tandem of ROWE and Maxwell is looking promising for the future,
    ..
    Hicks will be back next year. KIKO just needs to stay healthy and I bet he ends up proving to be one of those players who aren’t back until two years removed from their injury.. If he has another knee injury we are fucked. If he stays healthy. I’m confidemt we see rookie of the year KIKO next year. Hopefully we can keep two of the 3 healthy at all times next year.
    ..
    Might need to improve OLB depth, but there are also playërs like Curry, and Bennie who swear Marcus Smith is going to be a legit player in this league.i have been shocked to hear how highly some of his defensive teammates think of him.. It is promising that he has become a special team fixture for us, and Special Teams is so important to chip, he won’t play Marcus just because we picked him high. Chip respects ST too much. he will play a starter like Malcolm Jenkins before he puts a kid who dpesmt belong on the field for ST because of where he was drafted, just like chip ISNT running Murray 25 times a game trying to justify the contract we gave him,,, maybe MS2 can eventually be a player. Truthfully I don’t hate that we have made it so hard for him to get on the field instead of giving him anything. We worked his way onto being a fixture on ST, maybe he eventually grows hmself into a contributor on defense, it’s only been two years. There are some late bloomers. We will find out for sure next summer, because if they don’t trust him to be ready to play defense, I assume chip would cut him and free up a roster spot.. No free roster rides in year 3…
    ..
    We have a nice foundatipn in place. Continue to Develope young players, build up a few position with upgrades and we could have a qualty team in place for Next year,.. And hopefully we get lucky and a few bench players grow into guys who are better than we expected like Reynolds, MS2, Jaylen Watkins, JaCorey Shep, Trey Burton
    ..
    I like where we are headed, with a few offseason upgrades and a summer for guys like Bradford and Murray, Mathews can get more comfortable in this offense..

  472. 472 b3nz0z said at 5:01 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    marcus panning out would be such a gift at this point.

  473. 473 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Yeah I sure wouldn’t bet on him, but there are people in that locker room who swear he will be a player for us.. Hopefully they turn out to be right, but no one outside that locker room has any reason to be able to count on him going forward… Hopefully we get lucky and he turns out to be a late bloomer… We will know by whether or not chip brings him back next year

  474. 474 anon said at 5:43 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He needs to get w/ Dee Ford in the summer and just live eat and breathe with him. Gotta have a certain mentality to be a pass rusher, feel like he needs to get that edge.

    Clowney looking like a TERRIBLE pick for the texans. I sort of supported that pick – so athletic i could see him as a 34 OLB, but they could have had a QB w/ that pick.

  475. 475 botto said at 4:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    yeah Huff man…
    its crazy what he can do with the ball in his hands, he trucked the DB and they couldn’t bring him down, but he tried to fumble too…
    he needs to get the ball more, period. anyway they can get it to him.
    he’s the most exciting guy on the team when he gets the ball because you just don’t know what is going to happen.

  476. 476 Dave said at 4:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m no Sam homer, but I have consistently backed up the notion that he needs a whole season to see how he progresses. I find it refreshing that twitter is trending about him being here next year and beyond, and how well he has fared in is last 4 games.

    With three games left, I can only imagine if he looks mediocre or bad and any of those games, he will and Chip will be roasted again for wasting a 2nd round pick. As much as I would love to have a 22 year old first round pick with lots of moxy and hope, I am left with all the following players taken out of the top 10 in the past 11 years (which is where we will most likely be drafting):

    2014
    22 Johnny Manziel
    32 Teddy Bridgewater
    36 Derek Carr

    2013
    16 EJ Manuel

    2012
    22 Brandon Weeden
    75 Russell Wilson

    2011
    12 Christian Ponder
    35 Andy Dalton

    2010
    25 Tim Tebow

    2009
    17 Josh Freeman

    2008
    18 Joe Flacco

    2007
    22 Brady Quinn

    2006
    11 Jay Cutler

    2005
    24 Aaron Rodgers
    25 Jason Campbell

    2004
    11 Ben Roethlisberger
    22 J.P. Losman

    Outside of Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and possibly Wilson, are the other names really better than a health Bradford with a couple of offseasons into the program? Arguments could be made for Flacco, Dalton, Bridgewater, and Carr, but are they really that much better?

    Seriously, you need to have the top 5 pick to have any real hope the draft a franchise QB, even then it’s a crapshoot.

  477. 477 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:14 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Needs even more than a whole season. Doubt we see the best he is capable of this season… The thought of him getting thru the year healthy, get an entire offseason to hit the weights and train as the QB of the Eagles with his WRs instead of rehabbing an injury the entire offseason..
    ..
    If SAM can give us 3-4 years of good healthy playing 14 of 16 games each year, THAT would give this franchise its best chance to really try to contend for a SB…
    ..
    We will NEVER win ANYTHING if we keep changing QBs after one or two seasons… Now SAM is showing way more toughness than I thought was capable of. He is taking a beating this season and ISNT flinching, he standing tall in the pocket, eyes down field… Id love to see how much better he can be when this offense becomes second nature to him, and we put an improved OL in front off him that can hopefully cut down on the hits he is taking this year
    ..
    There is nothing bigger for this franchise than keeping SAM on the field for the next 3-4 years,. We won’t be able to get a more Talemted and NFL ready QB than SAM..

  478. 478 anon said at 5:37 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Bridgewater is the perfect Qb for this scheme. Only watched him play a couple of times but really seems smart, can run if necessary accurate passer i short yardage. Carr is ok.

  479. 479 Jernst said at 6:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Honestly, you don’t need a top 5 pick to land a franchise QB. What you need is luck. Top QBs have been found all over the place. The best QBs in the league the last few years have been Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Brees. Only 1 of them was a top 5 pick. Brady was like 199th overall, Rodgers 24th, Brees 33rd. The other top QBs capable of winning Super Bowls. Wilson 75th, Roethlisberger 11th, Flacco 18th, Brett Favre 33rd, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo and Jeff Garcia were all UDFA…only the dorkier Manning and McNabb were top QBs drafted in the top 5 picks. After that there’s a lot of good but not great (Mike Vick, Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Cam Newton, Sam Bradford)

  480. 480 Dave said at 7:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Reread my post, I said top 10 pick. Your examples are mostly qbs drafted 10 to 20 years ago…that’s irrelevant to the recent past.

  481. 481 Jernst said at 8:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I did re-read your post. You said top 5 pick not top 10. Maybe you should re-read your own post. Specifically the last sentence…here it is: “Seriously, you need to have a top 5 pick to have any real hope the[sic] draft a franchise QB…”

    I used every QB drafted in the top 5 picks in the last 15 years and discussed the QBs who have recently been considered the top QBs of the past 5 years to counter your claim. That’s basically the only thing relevant to recent past.

    But if you want to look at the top ten in recent years it’s even worse for your argument. The only QBs drafted from picks 6-10 over the past 10 years that I left out in my post above were Blaine Gabbert, Ryan Tannehill and Matt Leinhart.

    Since the 15 years is apparently too long of a time frame for you to look at and it’s absurd to judge this past years draft in any meaningful way since they’ve played at most 13 games so far. Let’s look at players drafted in the top ten in the 5 years prior to this most recent draft.

    Blake Bortles
    Andrew Luck
    Robert Griffen
    Ryan Tannehill
    Blaine Gabbert
    Cam Newton
    Jake Locker

    The only two that you’d really even consider “top QBs” were both taken number 1 overall and were considered generational type talents. Neither has won anything meaningful yet, but it’s way too early to judge them solely on that. Newton has a career 59% completion percentage and was 30-31-1 coming into this year, his team is finally winning due to a monster run game and a great defense with him in year 5. Luck is great, if not a bit overhyped. Everyone else on that list is pretty blah.

    In that same time frame, the following QBs were taken outside the top 10:

    Andy Dalton
    Teddy Bridgewater
    Derek Carr
    Colin Kaepernick
    Tyrod Taylor
    Russell Wilson
    Kirk Cousins
    Nick Foles
    Brock Osweiler

    The following starting QBs were acquired by their teams without drafting at all. They were traded for or picked up in FA:

    Carson Palmer
    Jay Cutler
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Alex Smith
    Sam Bradford

    So in conclusion…I have no idea what you’re talking about.

  482. 482 anon said at 9:09 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Teams drafting first typically have more issues than just a QB.

  483. 483 Jernst said at 10:28 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    That’s very true. Drafting in the top 5 only guarantees one thing…that your team sucks…a lot. However, it should be noted that if you’re lucky enough to draft 1st overall when a generational type talent at QB is available you tend to do well. See Luck, Newton, Manning. But you’re far more likely to draft first and end up with Tim Couch, Carson Palmer, Alex Smith, Matt Ryan, Mike Vick, Sam Bradford, Jamarcus Russell, David Carr, Mike Vick.

  484. 484 Dave said at 10:41 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m not going to ague with you because you seem (sic) like an asshat.

  485. 485 Jernst said at 11:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Sorry you feel that way. But, I’m pretty sure if you had an argument to support your claim you’d make it. Unfortunately, you don’t. Because there’s no relevant data that support the idea that you need a top 5 pick to have any real hope of drafting a franchise QB. In fact, if you look at drafts over the past 10 years, aside from some sure fire #1 overall picks, many teams that draft QBs at the top of the first round end up with busts while passing on true game changers available at other positions. While the majority of teams with set franchise QBs either had them drop to them later in the draft or obtained them by other means.

  486. 486 Dave said at 9:02 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    I apologize for my comment as I had a few beers in me while watching the game last night. I did make a mistake in my first post and was referring to the top 10 picks in the first round. However, I could not get myself to read either of your reply posts past the 2nd sentence.

    A friendly word of advice, sometimes when a person is bored, waiting for their car getting service at the dealership and they are looking up information while typing on their phone, they will make a spelling or grammatical mistake. Under no circumstance should you quote their text and insert (sic) after a spelling or grammatical error. This isn’t journalism school, we are all just passionate fans of the same team looking to have some friendly banter to pass the time. I can honestly say that in over 20 years of using forums and message boards on a variety of subjects, I have never seen another poster (sic) an error while replying to a quote. Have a good day.

  487. 487 GermanEagle said at 4:31 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Speaking of offseason needs, the player that sits atop my personal wishlist, and it’s not even close, is the following:

    WR Alshon Jeffery, 25 years, Chicago.

    Thank you, Chip and Howie.

  488. 488 Dave said at 4:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I cant imagine a scenario where he is not franchised if no contract extension is reached.

  489. 489 GermanEagle said at 5:03 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Same here but since it’s almost Xmas we can all dream, can’t we?!

    Jeffery – JMatt – Agholor – Huff

    Bam!

  490. 490 Dave said at 5:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Well, if that’s the game you want to play, I’ll take Cordy Glenn and Kelechi Osemele. An old proverb once said:

    “Give a man a fish, he’ll eat for a day, give a QB a quality offensive line, he’ll feast for a season.” ;-o

  491. 491 anon said at 5:35 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    If we could get a brandon-marshall type deal for a good but aging WR i’d love to take that. He’s making Fitz look like a franchise guy.

  492. 492 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Until the Bears sigń Kyle Long to a multiyear extension he will remain my Dream Aquisition…

  493. 493 JoeBlow said at 4:51 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    i really dont see this happening, sorry man

  494. 494 Nailed It! said at 4:53 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    That would be incredible, I also wouldn’t mind taking a look at Mohamed Sanu either.

  495. 495 Media Mike said at 5:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Franchise tagged; you’re it Alshon.

    I love the guy’s talent. I freaked out at the TV when the Bears too him one spot in front of us in the draft.

  496. 496 Jernst said at 6:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’d be a perfect addition to this offense. Unfortunately I doubt the Bears won’t give him a substantial incentive to stay in Chicago. And, the Murray and Maxwell deals along with the pending deals we need to give Thurmond and Bradford next year and Cox and Jenkins so after will have us pretty tight against the cap.

    Good news is we can get out of both the Maxwell and Murray deals after just one more year which frees up a huge chuck of cash.

  497. 497 Buge Halls said at 5:03 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “…LeSean McCoy ended up being more of a sidenote than the focus…” Summarizes too much of his time in Philly last year! Who is still complaining about the trade? Less than 100 yards on the ground

  498. 498 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    We weren’t going to beat BRady or Shady without a BIGTIME game from Cox and the DL, and once again it will take a dominant game by Cox and the DL if we are to have a chance at beating the Cardinals unless the DL takes over and puts a beating on Carson Palmer… I Like that going into a game against a top team, it happens to be a team we are very familiar with playing for the 3rd year in a row that we have had success against. if Nate Allen and Boykin didn’t get burnt like toast on 3rd down against John Brown we would be 2-0 pver bruce Arians Cardinals.. Our players know they have Had success against them, so for playiing against a top team, I think our confidence will be where it needs to be… We played the Pathers Tôugh, it’s up to the DL to Batter Carson Palmer into mistake, Carson and the Cardinals are playing with a lot of Convidence, they are very aggressive, they will take shots down field at us, but with their aggression. Comes an opportunity to make some big plays against them and force,them into mistakes… For Palmer to throw down field he has to hold the ball for a few,seconds which is risky when Cox and Curry are trying to hunt you down
    ..
    The Cardinals became a top team by executing an aggressive game plan against opponents. We need to take advantage of that aggression and use it as an opportunity to make big plays, compared to a QB like Tyrod Taylor who’s very cautious and his game is not making mistakes by using his legs a lot to move the chains…. Carson Palmer deserves to be top 5 in MVP vote, but we also have seen plenty of times where battering him has forced him into a lot of costly mistajes… The Cardinals pass blockng is better than the Bills, but fletch and Curry have been disrupting them for years. Hopefully we can do it again..
    ..
    After beating BRady and Bills, I want to see a confidemt team come out and take it to the cardinals and hope to steal one

  499. 499 b3nz0z said at 5:33 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    man. dog. man. dog. mandog mandog mandog.

  500. 500 Allen3000 said at 5:13 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I know the general sentiment shared among many Eagles fans and the media seems to be that he’s a first class jerk, I don’t think it’s that simple. Shady has done a TON of good for his community and for lots of underprivileged kids across the country.

    Yesterday I got to attend the game for FREE compliments of my cousin’s hard work and Shady’s generosity. My cousin posts tribute/highlight videos of Shady. Shady reached out to him over the Summer and told him how much he appreciates his hard work and creativity. He gave my cousin the option of picking any Bills game he would like to see AND the opportunity to meet him in person. We received 4 club level tickets and had a blast.

    I’m not naive enough to believe Shady is a saint. I know he can be immature. But I also think he doesn’t get NEARLY enough credit for all the good deeds he does for others and his community. I was actually disappointed with how much boos he received from the crowd. The guy gave his all to this franchise. He NEVER asked to be traded. Oh well. Just my 2 cents.

  501. 501 Dave said at 5:37 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I don’t think he’s a jerk, just an immature narcissist.

  502. 502 Allen3000 said at 8:02 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    And that’s perfectly fine to have that opinion, I’m just saying I know from first hand experience that there is another side of him that largely goes unreported.

  503. 503 Dave said at 8:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I absolutely believe you. Here is a nice article written by a Buffalo writer giving a pretty accurate glimpse of LeSean and the many facets of his personality.

    http://bills.buffalonews.com/2015/12/12/what-you-see-is-what-you-get-with-lesean-mccoy-what-you-dont-see-may-surprise-you/

  504. 504 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I only care to judge him on his behaviors last week culminating with sundays game, he looked incredibly weak, came of classless, and continues to show the emotional immaturity of a child…
    ..
    This doesnt make him a good or bad person, but his actions yesterday came off incredibly weak.. He ran his mouth all week, made it a show, made it all about him, kissing centerfield eagle, hugging LURIE, hyping up his teammates to play for him all week… He had so much to say all week, made it about him, and then he lost and ran away like a child, leaving his teammates to have to answer for him
    .
    Eagkes playërs like Peters and Curry threw him a Party last night and he didmt have the class to walk across the field and shake hands with his formER teammates? That doesn’t make him a bad person, just incredibly weak and classless…. Shady would still be running his mouth today if they won and he had 150 yards and two TDs. He loses so he runs away and ISNT heard from?

    Weak is the only way to explain it, but I’m sure he is a nice guy, damn sure not a classy competitor

  505. 505 Allen3000 said at 6:01 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    How did he make the game all about himself? Was he the one who ran to the media to confess his feelings about Chip? C’mon. The media had a microphone in his face all week and asked him questions about Chip non-stop. If he says nothing like Marshawn Lynch, then he will be criticized for not fulfilling his obligations as a player. If he confesses his true feelings, then he’s a jerk who’s making it all about himself. He basically was put in a no win situation.

    I think it’s crazy how some people here toe the company line and expect Shady to have blind loyalty to Chip and the Eagles. He was cut in a rather cold, heartless way. The man provided this team with a TON of great moments and gave us reason to be optimistic for the future. Yet, fans yesterday acted like he was Benedict Arnold.

  506. 506 Julescat said at 6:06 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    football is a business. Shady was traded (not cut) and ended up making more money in the deal. The problem is Shady hasn’t stopped running his mouth like he is some victim since the trade happened. The guy seriously needs to grow up and act like a man.

  507. 507 Media Mike said at 6:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I hear what you’re saying about not wanting guys to be Marshawn Jr., but the whole “Chip Kelly can’t say shit to me” bit is really a low class way to approach that situation. Think Peyton Manning would say that about the folks in Indy who blew him out the door?

  508. 508 Allen3000 said at 7:36 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I would never expect or want Shady’s actions to be compared to Peyton Manning’s. Two different individuals brought up in completely different environments.

    Peyton Manning says all the right things because he’s focused on maximizing his $$$ and portraying himself in the most PC way as possible. Shady is not built that way and that’s fine. You have absolutely no idea what kind of person Peyton truly is behind the scenes. If there’s one thing I learned from the PSU scandal, it’s to never ever idealize individuals and institutions.

    Like I said, Shady has handled himself a bit immature, but it’s understandable IMO given the situation.

  509. 509 JoeBlow said at 6:09 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “he was cut in a rather cold, heartless way”

    he was traded number one, and he was traded just like every other player in every other sport was traded, idk why people think he deserved some kind of special treatment. The NFL is a business, Shady and some of his fans need to realize this and get with the program

  510. 510 anon said at 6:36 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Nah, he didn’t even get a call. Given what shady was to the franchise he thought and i think rightly that it should have gone a different way.

  511. 511 JoeBlow said at 6:41 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he didn’t get a call because Buffalo leaked it to the media as soon as it happened. Then when Chip did try to call him, he wouldn’t answer and locked himself in a room like a teenager.

  512. 512 anon said at 6:43 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Is that supposed to make him feel better about the situation?

  513. 513 JoeBlow said at 6:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    OMG he must be sooooo traumatized!!!!

  514. 514 laeagle said at 6:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Maybe he should talk to his current employer and ask them to explain why things were leaked before he could get a call.

  515. 515 anon said at 7:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    You’re right. He was just employee no. 25

  516. 516 laeagle said at 7:03 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Again, he can talk to his current team about why things didn’t work out with the phone call. They’re the ones who leaked it. Not the Eagles’ fault that Buffalo went rogue.

    And either way, getting cut like DeSean was FAR worse, and DeSean handled it WAY, WAY better. If DeSean is the one outclassing you in social behavior, you’ve got some soul searching to do.

  517. 517 laeagle said at 7:12 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    They didn’t act like he was “Benedict Arnold” because he was cut. They did it because of the way he’s handled himself. No one denies that he was a great player for us. No one has blind loyalty to Chip and the Eagles. People are simply reacting to a guy who has been acting like a petulant child over something that’s pretty much normal in his line of work. And doing it in a way that goes far, far beyond any reasonable anger or emotion. He’s simply been unlikeable this week, in nearly every interaction with the public and press. He has shown himself to be the consummate “me first” player. And a lot of people who love football for how much of a team sport it is just don’t like to see that.

    Was Dawkins’s departure cold? Yes. Did Dawkins get emotional about it? Hell yes. But there’s a WORLD of difference in how the two handled themselves. Even DeSean Jackson, as I mentioned several times here, handled his departure better, and that was WAY colder.

  518. 518 botto said at 5:48 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I was really surprised he was booed too.
    there is no way most of the fans are on Kelly’s side with the whole thing, regardless if they like CHip or not, everyone loved shady so much.
    but he did act like a clown after the trade, but at the same time he was just hurt because he loves Philly so much, and likes CHip too…. so IDK
    no way trent cole would get booed…or Nick Foles

  519. 519 anon said at 5:50 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    bood when have those guys probably have shady jerseys in the closet. Feel bad w/ the way that turned out but it was partially his own making. Vick got an ovation and he wasn’t liked nearly as much.

  520. 520 Julescat said at 6:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    partially his own making?

    good grief

  521. 521 anon said at 6:09 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    he obviously felt wronged. I think that was legit, but he handled it poorly. I guess if you want to say entirely his own making that would be fair too.

  522. 522 Julescat said at 6:13 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    how was he wronged?

    he was traded. trades in the NFL happen. he ended up getting more money. instead of being happy with his new team, Shady threw race cards, and any other slander he could at Kelly. Kelly even admitted handling the deal poorly but still it wasn’t enough for the immature child that is Shady.

    running off the field like a little b-word at the end of the game showed how classless Shady is. Looks like Kelly was right about Shady.

  523. 523 anon said at 6:34 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “Kelly even admitted handling the deal poorly” — didn’t even Kelly mention that McCoy had every right to be pissed? You can feel how you want to feel about how he handled it but i can understand how that trade got all into shady’s feelings.

  524. 524 Julescat said at 6:40 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    ever hear Kiko Alonso talk about the trade?

    he just plays football.

  525. 525 anon said at 6:44 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Kiko played one year. Shady was a pro bowler, rushing champion, etc., born and raised in Penn. But you can pretend that players don’t have emotions.

  526. 526 laeagle said at 6:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    People would understand emotions, to a point. Shady simply took it too far, as he always does. Reference his relationships with former girlfriends, Osi Umenyora, and Knowshon Moreno for examples of how poorly he handles emotions and grudges. Hell, even DeSean Jackson handled his deal better. That’s saying something.

  527. 527 anon said at 6:53 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Agree he handled it wrong. I’m just saying he had a reason to be aggrieved by the situation. Djax handled it WAY better and people generally were way happier to see him go than mccoy.

  528. 528 Allen3000 said at 7:23 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Exactly. I don’t get why others don’t see this too. He was born and raised here in PA. Never really played football outside of PA. He was here before Chip and brought a TON of excitement and optimism to this franchise/city.

    I agree that he’s being a bit immature. But just step back and realize how this deal impacted him. We shit on players all the time for not being loyal or being dispassionate and here is a guy who was clearly cherished being an Eagle and he’s now getting shitted on by far too many Eagles fans.

  529. 529 Julescat said at 7:51 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    a bit immature?

  530. 530 Julescat said at 7:50 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    the team put up with his “emotions” for too long.

    maybe now he can try acting like a man

  531. 531 MaggiesHope said at 8:25 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Fine. He is entitled to a little sulking. But for how long?

  532. 532 anon said at 9:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    He’s gone way to far w/ it clearly. Honestly i figured after Kelly’s apology he might shake hands or whatever, but he wasn’t ready for that. He clearly has never been dumped.

  533. 533 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:21 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Amazing to me how this dude makes a living by giving his opinion of QBs elliot Parker would rather have than Bradford lol. ARENT you just dying to know what 20 QBs Parker would rather have?

  534. 534 JoeBlow said at 5:29 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    i just watched it too, the whole time wishing Barkann would ask: if you don’t think Bradford is the guy, then who are you bringing in here for next year?

  535. 535 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:38 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    It amazes me,,. The best is when they follow up this idiots opinipns with hearing Amy Fadools critique of the Eagles smh..
    ..
    Wish they would get rid of all these dopes and just łet seth Joyner talk the entire time,
    ..
    It’s spitting in the face of caring Eagle fans, to have elliot Parkers opinion exposed to the FANBASE,.. I would rather CAN put like a cute 9yr old on TV and let him give his opinion Of the Eagles..
    ..
    And when CSN isn’t exposing fans to the opinions of the most clueless morons imaginable, they pay the Jilliam Meale chick who’s job is to read fans tweets on the air?
    ,.
    We are the most passionate Fanbase in the nation, how the fuck don’t we deserve better? God forbid you turn on the radio, it gets even worse..

  536. 536 Mitchell said at 5:31 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Regardless of how Bradford finishes out the year I feel it would be extremely prudent to draft a qb this year. Afterall, look what happened with the 2014 draft. Missed a couple of choice guys for “Foles gold.”

  537. 537 A_T_G said at 6:08 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    It would be a shame to miss out on a Fararri because we have Brad’s Ford. Amiright?

  538. 538 Sean Stott said at 6:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The ford GT beat the ferraris in its day.

  539. 539 b3nz0z said at 8:15 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    if lynch is the best player on their board yeah.

  540. 540 Mitchell said at 8:30 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Even if he’s close. Marcus Smith was the best on the board and that turned out with poor results thus far. I think qb’s need special consideration but in general yes BPA all the way.

  541. 541 Anders said at 3:56 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    There is zero chance that that the tall, white (yes it still matters) with a strong arm QB gets even close to our draft position.

  542. 542 Mitchell said at 8:48 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    If you read a bit further, thats why I say completley hypothetical.

  543. 543 Anders said at 9:13 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    in a hypothetical world where we are in place to draft Lynch, I would hope we do it unless Lynch is falling for a reason.

  544. 544 botto said at 5:49 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    the throw to Agholor was a frozen rope. but the kid needs to catch everything not just once in a while. I think he will be good though

  545. 545 Media Mike said at 5:52 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The overall number of drops (and Huff’s loose play with the ball in general) is really upsetting. There seem to be a lot of guys in the WR corps who are inattentive to detail with the football. It might be time for a new WR coach.

  546. 546 Jernst said at 8:31 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I have no idea what the deal is with our WR coach. On every single catch Matthews jumps up and tries to catch with his body with his hands turned down and his pinkies together. Catching the football 101…pinkies together only works when the ball is low or you’re running and the balls out in front of you. Otherwise put your hands up, thumbs and forefingers together and catch the ball with your strongest fingers. All this hopping and trying to catch with his body and arms is infuriating. He does it on every pass even the ones he catches.

    Cooper jumps/dives for every ball even when he doesn’t have to. This is the stuff WR coaches should have ironed out months ago.

  547. 547 anon said at 8:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Same with Ertz, balls aren’t super high either, maybe they don’t trust themselves to hand catch and are trying to body catch everything.

  548. 548 Anders said at 3:57 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    There is stuff that a coach cant coach out of a guy no matter what.

  549. 549 botto said at 5:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    is Bradford giving a speech before very game now?
    will it ware thin?
    he better save the best clichés for the skins and the giants…
    like, “when the Germans bombed pearl harbor”

  550. 550 Media Mike said at 5:56 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “when that piece of shit Eli undeservedly won two Super Bowls and passed Jaws on the consecutive games played list.”

  551. 551 JoeBlow said at 6:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I thought this team was supposed to get worse as the season wore on?

  552. 552 Media Mike said at 6:10 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Bit of a subject change; but I feel the need to break out the same discussion from last year going into the Seattle game.

    Are we all prepared to take a loss on Sunday night? I don’t have high hopes vs. a team that is primed for a Super Bowl run, so I want to see how well we bounce back after a loss. I’m still quite upset with last year’s gutless choke job in the games (Dallas and Washington) after the Seattle loss. I’m hoping they learned how to get back down to business after a loss.

  553. 553 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 6:14 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Its just like any other game… we might lose we might win. If this season has proved anything its that there are no sure wins or loses in football.

    The fight is everything

  554. 554 Media Mike said at 6:14 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’m with that, but I’m not going to be apoplectic over a loss vs. a really good team that I don’t hate.

  555. 555 anon said at 6:32 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Team i just not that good. That buffalo game was a nail biter and it’s buffalo. We were competitive w/ ARZ the last couple of years but i think they’ve gotten better and we’ve stayed the same.

  556. 556 OldDocNewSeason said at 6:38 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “Stayed the same” is an awfully charitable description of the progress since last year.

  557. 557 anon said at 6:45 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    yeah it is

  558. 558 MaggiesHope said at 8:03 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Awful description is not very nice. The defense alone is much improved.

  559. 559 Sean Stott said at 7:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The blowout win against last year’s SB winner wasn’t good enough for you?

  560. 560 anon said at 7:42 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Didn’t seem like a blowout to me in the last couple minutes of that game.

    ARZ has lots of weapons on both sides of the ball. I think to win Sammy B / The pass rushers really have to come to play, i don’t see us getting much on the ground.

  561. 561 botto said at 7:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    eff the cards

  562. 562 ChoTime said at 8:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Talk radio here in az is giving a lot of respect to the eagles, probably too much. Knocking off the pats will do that for your image.

  563. 563 botto said at 7:59 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    you should never have to apoplectigize after a loss

  564. 564 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:57 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Didnt Eagles just lose to them last year coz Allen creeped up n let Brown get deep?

  565. 565 botto said at 7:58 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    yup and big nick put up over 500 yards on that super defense.

  566. 566 b3nz0z said at 8:11 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    why you gotta bring that dude up

  567. 567 Sean Stott said at 7:12 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    CK has already played them twice. I think he knows going in that Arians will try to hard-counter Kelly’s schemes. That was effective against us for most of the season thus far. I’m hoping that CK has figured that out by now.

    Looking at our losses this year, they’ve all, except Tampa and Dolphins, have been to teams we’ve played before under CK. I also count ATL for this stat since their HC was at SEA last year. I think there is definitely an edge granted to teams that have played against us before. Conversely, we’ve beaten most the teams we’ve never played before – NE, BUF, NYJ.

    I think CK is aware of this trend, but can’t say for sure. Either way, the Eagles can absolutely win this game against ARI. They’re a different team when they aren’t playing at home, and the Eagles have a chance to capitalize.

  568. 568 ACViking said at 7:54 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    AZ is 6-1 on the road this season.

    Offense averaging 37 PPG. Defense averaging 19 PPG.

    Not sure I understand why you think the Cards are not as good on the road as at home.

  569. 569 Sean Stott said at 8:00 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    They have an outstanding record this year so if you’re trying to slice and dice Home vs. Away it’s just going to look good no matter what. That doesn’t change the fact that ARI has a big home field advantage.

    http://www.boydsbets.com/home-field-advantage-in-the-nfl/

  570. 570 ACViking said at 8:02 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    AZ, like a lot of the west coast venues (including Oakland once upon a time), have the built-in advantage of being in a different time zone.

    If that’s what you were driving at in your comment, I understand.

    Clarification appreciated.

  571. 571 MaggiesHope said at 8:01 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    The score in the last Arizona game was exactly the same as the score in the Eagles last game. Both this past weekend. 23-20. A bit interesting.

  572. 572 ACViking said at 8:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Minnesota vs. Buffalo . . .

    1. Which is the better coached team?

    2. Which is the better team?

    3. Which is the better road team?
    _____________

    AZ v. PHI . . . one of the best, least discussed, rivalries in the NFL right now.

  573. 573 MaggiesHope said at 8:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    At the moment, I’m not sure there is much to choose between them. Both have some good players on defense and both have young, promising quarterbacks. A year from now, the Vikings will probably win your quiz.
    Further to rivalry. Eagles would eat cardinals but those tiny birds probably aren’t worth the energy expended to hunt them down. ;~).

  574. 574 botto said at 8:02 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I bet this is THE game arians wants to win as much as it’s THE game Kelly wants too.
    they have more weapons and talent on offense and defense, but hey… uh well I guess that’s bad actually.

  575. 575 GermanEagle said at 7:17 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    What ODB is doing in warm ups our WRs couldn’t do with both hands.

  576. 576 Sean Stott said at 7:40 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    “Catches ball well” isn’t something scouts care about. DOES HE HAVE LONG ARMS? BIG HANDS? IS HE LONG? WHATS HIS FORTY? Those are the only things that matter.

  577. 577 botto said at 7:56 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    and catches ball well certainly does not describe OBJ.
    catches ball insanely at times…

  578. 578 b3nz0z said at 8:09 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    explosion. they like to talk about explosion.

  579. 579 ChoTime said at 8:26 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Production > measurables

  580. 580 GermanEagle said at 9:37 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    So you’re saying ODB doesn’t matter?!

  581. 581 HawaiianEagle said at 8:33 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Blah Blah Blah… Whoever wins n week 17 counts. EAGLES > ginas.

  582. 582 GermanEagle said at 9:37 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’d take ODB over blah blah blah any day of the week.

  583. 583 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 10:16 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Mathews actually has a similar routine after practice with the Jugs machine. he catches sitting down and on his back. Guy is just having a down year

  584. 584 Anders said at 2:21 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    No he cant even approach ODB when it comes to catching

  585. 585 Anders said at 2:22 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    Im not really pissed because we had zero chance in hell to get him. Its like getting mad over not having Mariota.

  586. 586 Nailed It! said at 7:36 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Eagles are back in black this Sunday!

  587. 587 Nailed It! said at 7:44 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    "The good guys dress in black, remember that." | #BackInBlack READ: https://t.co/ghXFYh0mgb pic.twitter.com/c2YNXxwiCa— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) December 15, 2015

    Will never get tired of that gif

  588. 588 Cafone said at 7:46 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    S U P E R B O W L

  589. 589 A_T_G said at 8:39 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    At least!

  590. 590 anon said at 7:50 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    ACV posted on 24/7

    “Bradford’s agent is Tom Condon — the same agent for the Mannings, Drew Brees, Tony Romo, Matt Ryan (among others).

    What the contracts for these QBs have in common is they’re lengthy, top-end for the position, and not team-friendly.

    It’s fine the Kelly wants Bradford back. But why broadcast it.”

  591. 591 ACViking said at 8:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Anon . . .

    Tom Condon is the Steve Boros of football agents.

  592. 592 MaggiesHope said at 8:22 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I saw a thing about Condon, when he was negotiating for himself. Hank Stramm tried to grossly underpay him. The ‘war’ between the NFL and some other league was going on at the time. Condon discovered how much his going rate should really be and Stramm paid, plus a bonus, in order to keep him in the league. He was a guard and further proof that some of the smartest people in football are offensive linemen.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25227496/tom-condon-on-eli-manning-contract-quarterbacks-always-get-done

  593. 593 ACViking said at 8:22 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    that was a great story.

    Condon’s a very smart, very tough negotiator.

  594. 594 Anders said at 2:21 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    and Bradfords contract wont be any of that. Also it will be Howie and his gank who will handle the contract, not Kelly.

    and last, what bleeping difference does it make if he says it or not? The agent and Bradford most likely already knows it

  595. 595 ACViking said at 8:05 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    AZ v. PHI . . .

    Best rivalry in the NFL that doesn’t get enough ink.

    For anyone who loves good football, this match up should deliver.

  596. 596 b3nz0z said at 8:07 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    it’s true. i really do hate them

  597. 597 MaggiesHope said at 8:14 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Perhaps Arizona will be a bit fixated on Seattle creeping up on them and will be looking past the Eagles a little too much. Not Arians, but some of the players could take this team/game a bit lightly considering the last time they met.

  598. 598 ACViking said at 8:17 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    In their last two games against each other (2013 & 2014) . . .

    Cards outscored Eagles 45-44.

    Eagles lost turnover battle in 2014’s game 3-1.

    Cards lost TO battle in 2013 by 3-0.

    Two very evenly matched teams.

  599. 599 botto said at 8:24 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    yeah I’m glad its still a rivalry after all the years we had them in the NFCE before they bailed…
    its always good to have more teams to hate, since you can only love one

  600. 600 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:18 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Which win would you consider bigger in the Chip Kelly era and why? A win over Arizona on Sunday or the win over New England last week?

  601. 601 ACViking said at 8:21 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Too soon to tell.

    If the Eagles don’t make the playoffs or lose at home in Rd 1, does it matter?

    On the other hand, if the Eagles go on a 2011 NYG-like run — and win 7 of their next 8, including the SB — then that becomes a great question.

  602. 602 Tumtum said at 9:12 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    After the loss it is no different. Just getting the lotto ticket is important though. Can win it if you aim in it! That’s why I always stood by Andy when people would get mad he couldn’t win it. Keep getting there and you have a shot.

  603. 603 Jernst said at 8:22 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I’ll probably remember finally beating Tom Brady for a lot longer, but the Cardinals are at full strength. The Pats we were lucky enough to get when they were limping substantially. This week will be a harder test.

  604. 604 Anders said at 2:12 AM on December 15th, 2015:

    The Pats are a much stronger team than the Cards. Not saying we are going to win

  605. 605 xmbk said at 5:25 PM on December 15th, 2015:

    Good question. They both are important to this season. Patriot win for turning the focus onto making the playoffs, an Arizona win for turning the focus onto making some noise in the playoffs. Patriots are more hyped, so the win will be remembered longer. But I will take more personal satisfaction in beating Arians.

    So for my sake, hope they beat Arizona. 😉

  606. 606 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:38 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Stupid Dolphins. Go Dolphins!

  607. 607 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 8:57 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    I wonder if NY is going to fold if Miami gets up on them

  608. 608 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 9:04 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Chip should absolutely start lining up Huff/Agholor as RBs

  609. 609 Jernst said at 10:19 PM on December 14th, 2015:

    Anything to keep us from seeing more of Murray