Old is In
Posted: January 9th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 1,164 Comments »I was going over some coaching lists on Friday night and doing some research when something occurred to me.
Take a look at the playoff teams.
NE
CIN
PIT
HOU
DEN
KC
WAS
MIN
GB
CAR
ARZ
SEA
Bill Belichick – 63
Marvin Lewis – 57
Gary Kubiak – 54
Andy Reid – 57
Mike Zimmer – 59
Mike McCarthy – 52
Ron Rivera – 54
Bruce Arians – 63
Pete Carroll – 64
Older coaches are having a lot of success these days. As we talk about hot young assistant coaches like Adam Gase, Ben McAdoo, Matt Patricia, Sean McDermott and so on…we often see their youth as a good thing. They have the energy to handle the job. They can relate to modern players. They’re innovative and should be able to adjust well.
For whatever reason, older guys are doing a better job right now.
Look at recent Super Bowl winners.
2014 – Bill Belichick – 62
2013 – Pete Carroll – 62
2012 – John Harbaugh – 50
2011 – Tom Coughlin – 65
2010 – Mike McCarthy – 47
You have to go back to 2010 to find a guy under the age of 50 winning a title.
The reason I was thinking about this was because there is a coaching candidate that I thought the Eagles should consider, but I wondered about his age. I’m referring to Mike Smith, who coached the Falcons from 2008-2014. He is 56 years old. I wondered if that was a bad thing or not.
This morning we’ve learned the Eagles do have interest in an older coaching candidate.
Giants expecting Tom Coughlin to speak to the Eagles about their coaching vacancy in the coming days: https://t.co/BVRHXDqOUn
— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 9, 2016
The Eagles have gotten permission to talk to him and will meet with Coughlin on Monday night.
Coughlin is a good coach. Some think he’ll go the Hall of Fame based on the 2 Super Bowls. I do not think he deserves that. There were too many mediocre seasons mixed in.
The Giants missed the playoffs the last 4 years and 6 of the last 7. That’s not good. The one year they made it, they did win the Super Bowl. Strange.
The biggest issue in recent years, from my perspective, was a combination of poor talent and injuries. The Giants constantly seemed to have half the team on IR. Is that something Coughlin did or was it simply bad luck. The Victor Cruz injury was entirely bad luck. The JPP situation was entirely bad luck. Still, the overall situation is worth examining. Maybe a bit of Sports Science could have saved Coughlin’s job.
As to the lack of talent, that’s on the front office more than Coughlin. They did pretty darn well with 1st round picks, but then missed in the middle and late rounds. That hurts the depth of the team, which obviously becomes critical when there are injuries. There is some responsibility with Coughlin and his assistants for not developing those players better. They were great with early picks, but things got ugly after that.
I think the Eagles should talk to Coughlin. Compare him to Gase and McAdoo and the other assistants that are getting a look. Decide if Coughlin sounds like a viable option. See how he compares to the young guys who are making their way around the interview circuit. That might help you decide which of the other candidates sounds like the better candidate
I think Coughlin to the Eagles is a long shot, but there can be value in talking to him. His players in NY did come to love him. That’s one of the things that Lurie wants. Find out how he created that environment and balanced it with his desire to be a disciplinarian.
We also have to remember the Lurie says he isn’t risk averse when it comes to making hires. Maybe he’ll see age strictly as a number and roll the dice with Coughlin. The big downside from a historical perspective is that no Super Bowl winning coach ever won a Super Bowl in his next job. Bill Parcells and Mike Holmgren were the only two to make it back to the big game. They lost. Oddly, it was Holmgren who beat Parcells.
It sounds like Adam Gase will be hired by Miami today. The Eagles are going to interview Doug Pederson on Sunday and then meet with Coughlin on Monday. If the Eagles were completely sold on Gase, they’d have made a strong push to get him. They had interest, but not enough to make them want to quit looking at other candidates.
Every day seems to bring crazy new rumors and/or news. Maybe the Eagles will set up a meeting with Charlie Manuel next.
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I’m embarrassed to say I’m intrigued by Coughlin, if only to see how red his face would have gotten with this season’s team. Maybe all this team needs is an old man screaming at them to get off his damn lawn.
Would be worth it. Just to see if he could contain himself from throwing down the clipboard and keep the dumbfounded look off his face when Eli throws an int against us.
It would be fun to see. COUGHLIN coach the Eagles against the Chip Kelly led Giants…
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I don’t really know what to think about COUGHLIN in terms òf how he compares with the coordinators. I havent got the slightest clue who the best man is for this job…
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Looks like the Dolphins are going to land Adam Gase. ..
A thought. If we’re considering an older guy in Coughlin, why not Mike Holmgren? 2 years younger than Coughlin. WCO guy so connected to the Reid tree. He’d likely keep Shurmur as OC.
Holmgren would likely want full control
Good call.
Holmgren hasn’t coached since 2008.
I’m not interested in him at all.
Have you ever been to Austin?
In the state cemetary, the biggest plot at the highest point: Landry. Tell me you wouldnt dig him up for one season on the Eagles sideline.
weekend at Bernie’s 2016 NFL style.
Jim Brown’s actions tell it all regarding Holmgren.
Jim Brown Greatest Ever .. Holmgren bad guy. power hungry rich guy.
gimme your money and ill be wearing my super bowl ring from 20 years on your property.
Hopefully the Gase talk can finally come to an end. Give me Paul Guenther or Hue Jackson please.
Hue Jackson is being – overlooked / disrespected, by the Eagles trio of front office – rocket scientists. This guy ( with the help / support ) of a great organization, is going to be a terrific head coach.
I don’t think he is being disrespected.
Pretty sure is what Howie wants. No one who can cause a power struggle with him.
Shurmur, for example, would be in his hands.
True. No ” strong ” personalities – any more. Yes men, from here on out. Desperate, yes men …… Super Bowl, here we come.
Starting to like Hue Jackson and Shurmur (!!!).
Shurmur should help bring Bradford back and improve him.
And, in the worst case, we get a high pick next year, and try another shot at HC with with Harbaugh or Payton maybe, or another.
I’m glad i’m not the only one who wants Shurmur
Charlie Manuel would be awesome.
I’m getting tired of hearing fans complain about paying Bradford. Typically the argument I hear the most is that paying him will cripple our abilityl to build the n team.. HELLO???? Who gives a shit about paying anyone else besides Fletcher Cox if we don’t have a QB? What can possibly be more important than paying a QB? If you don’t have a QB, you are irrelevant..
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We are entering a new age of QB play where we will start seeing most QBs make big money that reflects the importance of the QB position, from here on out, every solid QB who is entering Free agency is going to get PAID!.. Say we draft a QB who becomes good, but not great, when his rookie contract expires, we will be forced to I pay him big money, or lose him to a team willing to pay….
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We won’t be able to get a QB that plays the position at a higher level than SAM will next year… If we know that to be true, what the fuck is there to discuss? You can’t Do anything without a QB, and we are approaching an era where all QBs will start getting overpaid… So how is this not a no BRAINER?
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How can we talk about saving money when discussing the most important position in sports?… Besides Cox, who can possibly be more important than paying for the best QB we can possibly have lead us next year?
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Signing free agents is a joke that rarely works out the way we hope, I don’t care about other teams FA, cap space should be spent on keeping Eagles in philly and build the rest thru the draft, and ONLY get rid of a veteran when we have a young player behind the vet, ready to take over
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What good is paying Curry, thurmond, Thornton, Nolan if we lose our QB?
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There is NOTHING more important than a QB, Bradford is easily the QB we can sigń who will give us the best chance to win next year,… I hate this argument that if we pay Bradford we won’t have money to build a team… What good is a team with No QB?.,.
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For me, keeping Bradford is a complete no BRAINER… The ONLY question should be whether we give him a big extension now, or pay big money to Tag him, postponing the decision TIL next pffseason after we gather another year of data that goes into making the bradford extension decision… If SAM gets thru another year heathy, there would be nothing else to talk about.. pay Dat Mayn his Moneez
I think fans just looks at stats and these analytic sites that basically say Bradford is a mediocre QB and run with that. It’s understandable but the eye test should play a factor into some people’s opinion. To me Bradford looks like he can be the QB of this team for the foreseeable future but some folks will never get over stat Bradford.
Unfortunately you are probably right.,
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I don’t even know what Bradfirds stats are, I don’t care what his stats are when my eyes saw a QB play at a level I would feel extremely fortunate having lead us the next 5 years. I don’t even want to look at his stats, because I don’t want it to skew my opinion of the QB I was very impressed with the second half of the season.. I also think the stats won’t paint an accurate picture, because of the failures of Bradfords supporting cast.. The WRs dropping perfect passes, stupid pre snap penalties that killed drives, a Coach who didn’t allow him to audible and try and get us in the best play to attack a at the defense was about to throw at us .
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I was young when Jaws was the QB of the Eagles so I don’t know what he looked like, but I do Know that Bradford was Probably the best passer I have ever seen QB the Eagles.. Bradford is the first eagle QB I have ever seen consistently throw Wrs open, and throw with Antcipation… Had Donovan McNabb been the QB of this Eagle team, he would have been Horrible, because Donovan NEVER threw WR’s open, and WRs used to get mad that unless they were completely wide open, McNabb wouldnt throw the ball… No way could Donavon have had a better year throwing to WR’s that struggled to get open… After doing film work, Analyst Raved at Bradfords numbers throwing to WRs that were often Barely getting open..
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McNabb was the best Qb I ever had the pleasure to root for.. But McNabb wouldnt even thrown the ball on half of BRADFORDS completions this year because the WR Wasnt as open as McNabb required WR’s to be..
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1) Shaky OL that allowed SAM to take a Beating coming off two injured seasons that he sat out..
2) failure to protect Sam with a Quality Run game
3) WRs who dropped more passes and got less seperation than Pinkton and Thrash ever did
4) playing in an Offense that drastically lacked Variety, which I imagine made it easier for opponents to prepare for in year 3
5) what Boggies my mind the most is Chip caring more about getting the ball snapped as fast as possible, instead of taking the time to audible in the best player to attack what the defense was about to throw at us
6) First year in a new offense, when It takes Years to see a QB grow into an offense
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So Many ways we can improve the situatuon SAM is placed in… Regardless of those 6 above listed flaws, he still played the QB position at a higher level than a lot of peiple realize, and showed signs of being an even better passer than McNabb, the best QB I ever saw lead the Eagles..
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What kills me the most is that it’s clearly obvious for even his haters to see, that SAM was still improving with each game that passed. I could understand if he maxed out and reached his Ceiling, but the guy was able to endure a mess around Him and play better and better each week, why the hell would an Eagle fan want to give up on a QB who was still improving?
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This narrative that if we pay Bradford we won’t be able to fix our Flaws drives me crazy, Who gives a crap about fixing other flaws if we don’t have a QB?
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We have been playing Musical Chairs with QBs for YEARS, Fans see how hard it is to get a good QB we can build around, It baffles me how fans could want to get rid of this kid…. fans are starting to act like we can get rid of Bradford and easily solve this QB Probable by drafting Wentz or whoever the 3rd or 4th rated QB in the draft happens to be, as if every draft produces 4 or 5 franchise QBs… We are talking about filling the most important posituon in all of sports with the 3rd or 4th best offense in a weak to average at best QB draft?
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We already dont have a 2nd round pick, and by now we should realize that signing other teams free agents ISNT the way to fix our problems.. So if we spend our 1st round pick on a QB, we won’t have a first or second round pick to address the serious issues that our roster is lacking…
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I do NOT believe that this roster needs to be torn down and rebuilt. I am Convinced We won’t be able to get a QB that plays at a Higher Level than what Bradford would give us next year…not only is Bradford our best option at QB next year, but paying to keep Bradford Probably allows us to fix the most of our flaws this offseason., I don’t want other teams Free agents, I want to pay to retain our players, and use the next two drafts to build this team. keeping SAM would allow us to Trade back from #13 and draft an OL in round 1, while possibly getting a 2nd round pick back..which would leave us with draft picks:
1st round (1 pick)
2nd round (1’pick if we trade back from #13)
3rd round (2 picks, Lions owe us one from last years draft)
4th round (2 picks, Rams owe us from Bradford trade)
5th round (2 picks, steelers owe us from Boykin trade)
6th round (1 pick)
7th round (2 picks, Cardinals owe us one from Barkley Trade
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So if we keep Bradford, and trade back from #13, we could end up with 4 picks in the top 100, 8 picks in the first 5 rounds, and 11 picks Total, 10’picks total if we don’t trade back)
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If we leave free agency alone, spend our money retaining our own free agents, building continuity, 11 draft picks is plenty to fix a starting OL, and fill our holes
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to trade away FOles, and 2nd round pick, and lose Bradford would be Terrible as far as I’m concerned, and it could take us YEARS to find a QB that can play at the level we would get from SAM…. If we keep SAM, higher the right coach, and do well in the draft, I don’t think it will take more than 2 good drafts to build a quality team…. But if you are going to lose Bradford and go with a rookie, might as well not pay anyone and go full rebuild and demolish the entire roster..
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All I ask is to not lose a QB that won’t be easy to replace his talent… Give me Bradford at QB, and I will Support any Coach, and any other roster move that they would want to make (with the exception of Losing Cox)… For me, losing bradford would be worse than any player chip got rid of, we can find capable WR replacements, and we can find quality RBs… Finding a QB as good as Bradford could take Years,,,
I don’t think we’ll see any movement on Bradford’s contract until the new coach is hired and has his staff in place. That being said, I would have no problem with them throwing the franchise tag on him if they can’t negotiate a good contract.
I’d certainly interview Coughlin to pick his brain about the game, Giants and the league etc., but there are far too many negatives IMO to hire him.
If the Bengals lose today, Marvin Lewis should be fired tonight with Hugh Jackson being named the Headcoach of the BUNGALS
just beat me to it. I’d be very, very interested in Lewis. We could possibly keep Shurmur and continuity on offense (still need to build the OL) and the defense immediately gets improved.
Marvin Lewis one of only two coaches in NFL history who are 0-6 in the playoffs…
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Can his soft spoken demeanor handle all the hate and Fire that comes with coaching in this city during the bad times?
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If Marvin can’t do anything with the most stacked roster in the NFL, why would he succeed in the Pressure cooker that is coaching in this city, with a roster that pales in comparison to the stacked roster he has failed with in Cincy?
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No idea who I would be a great hire, and who would be a Horrible choice… But I doubt Marvin would be recieved well in Philly… Id rather us not even interview Marvin or Lovie… Marvin Lewis has been given everything a guy needs to be successful, and he consistenly falls flat on his face… But that’s just my silly uneducated opinion from a Far, no one has the slightest clue who the best man for this job is..
It seems like a crazy thought, but is Marvin Lewis’s job on the line today? As good as these Cinci teams have been as of late, they still haven’t won a playoff game under Lewis. Fair or unfair, he’s in a must-win game today with AJ McCarron as his starting QB.
*IF* he were to get canned, he immiedately becomes my favorite coach on the market
He better be fired today if they lose,,, I wouldn’t even want the Eagles interviewing Marvin Lewis. I do NOT see him being a good candidate to coach in this city
I get that thought. But, he’s done a remarkable job of identifying and developing young players. He’s taken shots on knuckleheads (PacMan among many, many others) and seems to be genuinely respected by his players.
Obviously he has major flaws – horrible track record in the postseason. But he would certainly be a worthy candidate imo.
Fair enough…. But I’m sure every candidate has his strengths and Flaws.
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He has been given a STACKED roster and every opportunity a coach could ask for, and he always fell flat on his face.,,, for his Sake, hopefully he finally gets over the hump and gets his first win today
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Not having Andy Dalton SHOULDNT excuse a loss, he has had every opportunity to win with a stacked roster he has been given
Stacked roster? Marvin Lewis is part of a GM team. He’s directly had a hand in identifying and developing talent. That’s a credit to him.
Also of note…He inherited one of the worst teams in NFL history. Those 90s Bengals teams were on par with the Bucs of the 80s – just a complete train wreck.
How many other coaches would have the success he’s had (albeit no playoff wins) in that environment? Again, he’s certainly got his flaws, but I think he’s bring a lot more good to the table as a coach/leader.
The Bengals haven’t had one of the most stacked Rosters in the NFL the past 3 years?
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If he can’t have any playoff success with the Bengals roster, what will he be able to do coaching our Inferior roster?
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The guy has been given every opportunity imaginable. 98% of coaches to ever coach in the NFL WISH they were given Half of the opportunity Marvin Lewis has had,.
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How would his soft spoken laid back personality handle the tôugh times in this tôugh city where Fans and Media start bombarding Coaches with Venom? Could you imagine him enduring the venom in this city that would come with him coaching the Eagles for a decade and not winning a single playoff game?
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Doubt that the next coach will have any say in Personnell after HOwie spent two years delivering Chip every Duck player he asked for, only to find his Office moved into the Janitors closet thanks to chips power play… Whoever the next coach is, I would think he will have to have a few seasons of legit success before the coach has any say in Personnel
Well, after doing some more research perhaps I am overrating Lewis a bit. I went back and checked on those playoff Ls. For some reason I was thinking many of those were just a set of poor circumstances like getting matched up with Pittsburgh, Baltimore, and New England. That’s not really the case though. There was some dreadful QB play, but they lost several times to the Texans and to the Colts, Jets, and Chargers. That doesn’t look good for Lewis.
I don’t mind if the next coach has little say in who we pick for players. However, I do want that coach to be able to develop and get the most from his young players. Who can we honestly say that Chip really helped? He didn’t develop any OL. He got the most out of Foles and then subsequently dumped him.
Anyway, I do think the media angle is extremely overrated. We have so many emotional and knee-jerk media members that cover the Eagles. They go out of their way to give a voice to the most vocal and obnoxious Eagles fans. I don’t want a coach who is easily affected by our media. I don’t want a coach who feels compelled to satiate our unreasonable portion of the fan base an answer for everything. F all that. Just be a good person and win.
Agreed…. It’s unfortunate that we have to consider this added element of how a Coach can handle playing in a uniquely obnoxious City, but it’s the reality of our situation, and Unfortunately it does matter… You have to be strong in this city. If you start allowing blowhard media members and ignorant fans to impact your decisions, you are Doomed..
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You don’t get to coach a decade if you are a bad coach. So I don’t mean to completely diminish Marvin as a coach., but when you fail in Cincinatti, and I doubt we will be able to give him a better roster than the one he is failing with in Cincinatti, it’s hard for me to get excited about hiring hiim.
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What I do know is he won’t be given half the opportunity in this city that the Bengals gave him. This city would eat Marvin alive after half of his cincinati shortcomings.
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Marvin Lewis has been given as great of a chance as any coach could hope for, and he couldn’t get it done, actually he hasn’t even come close to getting it done….realistically I have no idea how to rank these candidates. I cant sit here and tell you that I know which candidates will do a better or worse job than Marvin Lewis… But with the limited info I have to go by, it’s very hard for me to get excited about Hiring Marvin… If he can’t get it done with that roster, how is he going to produce with our roster…
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Andy Reid’s 4 NFC title games, and one Super Bowl appearence Wasnt good enough in this city. Hard to get excited about one of the few candidates who have been given a similar opportunity that andy was given coaching the same team for over a Decade, but who Wasnt able to accomplish even a 25% of what Andy accomplished here.. Hard for me to get excited about a Marvin hire,,, but if they keep Bradford in philly, I will support any hire they make.
Not making excuses, playoff record is concerning, but he has worked for over a decade, for one of the cheapest owners in the league. His ability to : lead / communicate, with players is incredible. Many Super Bowl winning coaches were fired from first job and went to other places and won. See – Gruden, Coughlin, Belichick, Carrol.
??? . Any input on why ?
one of only two coaches in NFL history to be 0-6 in playoffs.
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He has been Given a stacked Roster and continuosly falls on his face come January
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This man was given all the opportunities long time coaches Like Andy, and COUGHLIN were given, yet he hasn’t won a single playoff game to warrant all the opportunities he was given
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Not sure how his soft spoken demeanor would play in Philly during the hard times when fans and Media demand answers and start slinging Venom at the coach
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A Coach who has been given such a stacked roster, and every opportunity to succeed, yet doesn’t have a single playoff win…. If he can’t win with the bengals stacked roster, what is he going to win with our Roster, in a city that can be very difficult to play in during tôugh times?
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Basically I think the Bengals Front Office is more responsible for the Bengals success, than Marvin Lewis…. Give most coaches the Bengals roster, and I wouuld expect similar results
He’s also playing with his backup QB…
Not a bad choice at all. Really intriguing too me too. Some times the voice gets old ( see – Andy Reid in Philadelphia ) now look at him in Kansas City.
Yes. Sometimes a change of venue for a coach can invigorate his career.
Yes, re – invigorate.
Tom Coughlin is a terrific – man / coach, but not even a sniff at a interview request for one – Jon ” chucky ” Gruden ? Talk about a guy who checks off ALL the boxes :
* Passion / intensity
* Super Bowl winner
* Offensive mind
* Motivator
* Understands passion of fan base
* Incredible knowledge of : league / schemes / players / coordinators
* etc. , etc. , etc.
This is the one ( non interview ) that really pisses me off.
*** I understand that this all depends on there being interest from Gruden, but Lurie and Roseman should take one for the fans ( yes Gruden can be a intense guy with a ego ) and show us how far they are willing to go to WIN a Super Bowl.
Gruden hasn’t coached in how many years? No thanks!
Anyone see Jason Peters’ instagram post with Andrew Whitworth and saying Whitworth making the pro bowl over him is bullshit? Peters is really starting to show recently, with that post and his comments about being the best option at LT the Eagles will have next year, that he is a real diva. It sure seems like a paycut or position change may be out of the question with the way his pride is blinding him to the point where he can’t see that he isn’t an effective LT anymore. Looks more and more likely that we will saying bye to Peters this offseason.
Yeah not my favorite JP moments..
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He said something last week, that I think factors into WHATS he said yesterday,,, he talked about how under Chip they were running 70-90 plays per game, and if you run that many plays, you are going to get beat once or twice…. Is this a reasonable excuse? I don’t know..
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I will say that if we are going to proceed with peters which is my assumption, I don’t hate that he is so pissed off by being snubbed, hopefully he uses it as motivation
Yea I did read what he said in regards to playing alot of snaps but in no way did the increased snaps be the only deciding factor to him being beat a couple of times. For the most part he was beaten regularly and it isn’t the snaps thar caused it. He needs to come to the realization that he isn’t the same player he was years ago.
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I don’t know if I can agree that it is a lock that he returns. Does a new HC really want to have that much money tied into an aging, declining player? We’ll find out. As far as him being motivated, yes that can be a good thing but motivation will not mask his defiencies as av starting olineman.
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As much as I love Peters for all he has done in Philly, I’m at the point where I would be opposed to the team finally cutting the cord.
Great ( potentially HOF player ) but, he is paid to :
A ) Play
B ) Not offer advice on : scheme, playing time, coach, etc.
I don’t think the new HC will have any say in who we are paying Big Money too..
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HOwie gave Peters the extension, LURIE respects Peters, ROSEMAN is back in power… And we have plenty of work to do on our OL without having to replace JP…
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But who knows, anything is possible when a coaching change occurs.
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I think Peters decision will come down to the direction we are heading, If we feel that it’s time to take a demolition crane to this roster, and start over with a full rebuild, then a 33yr old High paid Peters will probably get cut, but if we decide that we have too many solid pieces in place to go with a rebuild, then I would think Peters would be back next year..
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I guess a lot of it comes down to the QB… If Braford is the QB next year, Peters will be back!… If we are going into the season with Sanchez and some rookie QB, it would make some sense to cut Peters
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Think we have to be careful to not assume that every Down Year points to a major decline by a player… Guys who can still play in this league have down years,,, I don’t think Father Time led to Kelce’s down year, I don’t believe that Kelce’s down year points to the beginning of the end for KELCE,, I expect him to rebound for a much better year next season… If we keep Peters, hopefully that will be the case with him as well, he isn’t really old for a OL…
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Personally if it was my call, Id move him to Guard, where he can use his power to battle more stationary targets he will face battling DT’s, instead of having to move his feet fast enough to stay in front of the young speed rushers trying to beat him outside…. But if Bradford is our QB next year, probably going to be hard to find a tackle that will perform better than Lane and JP next year
Better that he rants on line at night than that he goes drag racing on the streets as he did a few years back!
Peters def dropped off but I watched Whitworth a lot this year… JP is not exactly wrong
It really sucks being addicted to this team. It was bad enough years ago
when my vehicles were filled with the Philly daily news and inquire that i
would get every day just for a tid bit of news, to this. come to the
conclusion I need help.
Anyway, I’d like us to be the first team to see what Shurmur really did pick up from Chip, combined with his own experiences. If not as HC, than would hope the new HC would let him run the O unimpeded.
I agree… I never imagined I would feel this way, but I think Hiring pat Shurmur, and franchising SAM to see what Both can do together next year is Probably my best case scenario..
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But that’s probably just me,… I have a hard time getting excited about all these coaching candidates when I only have a fraction of the info that goes into making the coaching hire…
I agree with you both and don’t think it’s a crazy idea at all to hire Shurmur. I am all in favor of going anti-Chip and hiring someone who doesn’t swallow up all the attention. I think the link to Chip is good for continuity, along with the tie to Bradford. I’m not going bonkers for Shurmur, but we could do far worse.
Yeah i certainly look forward to getting back to the days where our Coach is NOT the Face of the Philadelphia Eagles..
An aside, Gian GEAGLE: IMO, you are one of the great posters in all realms of Philly sports. It’s not necessarily that I agree with all your opinions. Much more so, it’s that you support your positions with excellent, well thought out and constructed viewpoints.
Thank you kindley…
I’d rather not have Coughlin, his clock management errors this year were atrocious and I’m not sure I can stomach another bad clock management coach after Big Red.
Not to mention terrible challenges
Oh man, I forgot how brutal his clock management was this year… It cost them at least 3 wins… So at least 3 wins were a result of poor coaching and QB play late in games… After Andy Reid’s clock management, that is one of the flaws I simply can’t put up with any longer
I’m disappointed we’re not getting Gase, though there are still other good options on the market.
Your right ….. their name is – Jon Gruden.
Don’t fall for the Gruden Bullshit… He doesn’t want to Coach, he just wants to be “wanted”.. He likes being wanted every year during the coaching search and then goes back to his high paid TV gig
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I doubt he would coach in this division anyway putting himself in Direct competition with his Brother… His brother ISNT the big desirable name that Gruden is… If Jay Gruden doesn’t keep winning the division, he will be fired. Once Jay Gruden is fired, he may have to wait a while before getting another NFL HC opportunity… jon Gruden succeeding in the NFC EAST will end up costing His brother his job, and I have a hard time seeing jon Gruden put himself in that position
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It’s one thing to beat your brother in the Super Bowl like the HARBAUGH boys… But Jon Gruden can have his pick of Jobs, so I have a hard time seeing him put himself in direct, divisional competition with his brother
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Don’t forget Lovie Smith, they interview him today I believe.
Would anyone be mad with Lovie Smith as HC and Shurmur staying as OC? I would kinda like that considering the options.
I am not against retreads… on their 2nd time around.
He has never really built a good team, let along a great one in a lot of time at head coach. That and i think tampa 2 is a pretty worn out defense these days.
Lovie hardly used tampa 2 with the Bucs
He ran Revis out of town…. Dumb
Honestly wouldn’t be against it
wouldn’t be too against it, but I would have to LOVE the DC
Tampa’s defense was a mess this year.
Meh. Lovie hasn’t really inspired me in his career.
I mean, the common denominator is good QB play. Maybe being older helps in selecting/coaching up a QB, if not then it’s just a coincidence.
If there is one HC in the universe who is prima facie poster boy for the need to have an effective FO, Tom’s the guy. When NY FO delivered, Tom beat Bill. When NY FO went to sleep, Tom beat himself. The odds of Lurie hiring Tom are slightly better than the odds of the Giants hiring Kelly.
Haha we lost to the Dolphins for Gase XD
Yeah Shefty said Gase had the choice of who he wanted to have his 2nd interview, and he decided to take a 2nd interview with Miami..
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Sounds stupid to me, why would you sign on to work for that mess of a Owner/Front office?
“Sounds stupid to me, why would you sign on to work for that mess of a Owner/Front office?” Are you talking about us or the Dolphins?
Thanks, though he was talking about ( Lurie and Roseman ) Eagles front office too.
Dolphins …. Not to mention putting yourself in direct competition with Tom Brady
In reality Dolphins do have better talent across the board than the Eagles. They really under preformed. I think it was the only money available right now though, so he took it.
they beat our train wreck team by a point, with sanchez QBing most of the game
Gase — whose father-in-law coached for Lurie and is an NFL lifer, and whose agent has dealt with every NFL front office — was stupid?
Like he didn’t have more meaningful information than us?
Gase’s choice of a 2nd interview — if that’s even true — may offer some insight into how the Eagles are perceived by the industry.
But stupid?
Or he wasn’t positive he would be offered another job and his agent and ownership pressed him to take the offer or they would have to move on.
Agree
I wonder how much of it was about having final say on players… I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t have gotten it from the Eagles.
For a guy in his 30s?
Looks like he did get final say on players in Miami.
That is pretty standard these days, as far as the 53.
I think it’s a combination of 2 things. I have to believe they made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. And the current state of this organization has made it far less attractive as it once was.
miami would be a really awesome place to live?
Or maybe that mess of an owner bought into the media generated hype by the agent. Roob seems pretty well tapped in right now and says eagles want to finish first round of interviews before setting up 2nd interviews.
I’m really curious when the hell they’re gonna interview Austin, I’ve heard reports that he was going to be interviewed “sometime this week”. But there’s been no confirmation. He was in New york on Thursday, I would assume philly would be next up
I hope they interview other African American candidates…. DUCE Staley deserves better than people viewing him as just a way to circumvent the Rooney Rule..
yeah I hope they interview two of the best candidates available, (Austin, and Jackson) who just also happen to be African American.
Hopefully it turns out that We were playing chess…and by interviewing Duce first..it made everybody think that our main objective was getting the Rooney Rule outta the way so we could pounce on Gase ASAP. When lo and behold a week later it was determined that the eagles were playing coy and Austin was the target all along.
I don’t know anything about AUSTIN, and If the Bengals lose today, I wouldn’t be surprised if we hear that Jackson canceled his interviews and gets named as the HC of the Bengals tomorrow..
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tampa basically Fired Lovie because they don’t want to Lose Dirk Koeter…. If any team didn’t want to lose its OC, it should be the Bengals who gave Marvin more chances than the majority of coaches get… If I were a Bengals fan, I would want to Fire Marvin, rather than Lose Hugh…
In Marvin’s defense the O was pretty good before Jackson.
True…
The lack of interest in Jackson makes me sad.
Me too man…Me too
Just to be clear, interviewing Duce was not circumventing anything. The Rooney rule does not make any requirements on who you hire, or even who you intend to hire. It just says, you have to interview at least one minority. The benefit is that you’re at least giving a chance for a guy to wow you (even if you don’t intend to hire him), you get his name out there, and most importantly, you give him experience with the interview process, which is so much more involved than interviewing for a normal job.
A lot of people, media included, get this confused. I’m a big fan of the Rooney rule. It’s important to be clear about what it is and isn’t. A lot of teams get painted with unfair brushes about things like “circumventing”, or not following the “spirit” of the rule, when they’re simply doing exactly what the rule states.
Maybe. The perception with Duce is that Lurie or Roseman saw him walking down the hall and yanked him in for an “interview,” so they could go through their process unencumbered by the Rooney Rule. No idea whether that actually happened, but if it did, it would be violative of the spirit of the rule. I agree with your characterization of the rule, but the minority chosen for an interview has to be a credible enough candidate to have the potential to wow management. If the Eagles were rewarding Duce for his contributions, either by giving him a chance to wow them or the opportunity to gain experience so he can improve his odds of getting a HC position someday, then cool.
My understanding is that they were killing several birds with one stone: take care of the Rooney requirement, but also give a faithful soldier an opportunity to interview and raise his profile. Given Lurie’s past loyalty to his people, it makes sense. But of course, anyone with an axe to grind will find whatever problem they want with the situation.
That does make the most sense in light of Lurie’s hiring practices, and it seems like Duce is on the rise. But I think it’s easy (albeit also lazy) to look at the situation — interview to in-house RB coach right after head coach fired — and wonder if they grabbed the closest black guy to satisfy the letter of the rule.
I don’t believe the Eagles had any sinister motives for interviewing DUCE,, im talking about Perception, people viewing it as just an attempt to satisfy the Rooney rule, and the NFL adding Fuel to the fire by questioning if we did something wrong…… I don’t Thiink LURIE and the Eagles meant any harm or did anything wrong, but DUCE Staley deserves better than how a lot of people are perceiving it…
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No where in my post did I talk about right or wrong, im talking about the perception, and DUCE Staley deserves better than how a lot of people seem to percieve interviewing DUCE as fast as we did
We’re in agreement. And I find it very telling about the state of the NFL today that they’re raising questions about the handling of the Rooney rule when it’s a rule they imposed. They should maybe be more familiar with their own rule. Ah, Goodell, never stop disappointing people…
dolphins Officially Hired Gase…. 1st coaching position filled… Apparently Gase has a very different opinion of Ryan Tannahill than What Brent Grimes wife thinks about the dolphins QB lol
Jim Zorn here we come! ( I am kidding relax)
the day after Chip got fired i was kidding when i posted that the Eagles should look into hiring Doug Pederson…… and that looks like it could be a very real possibility now
I’m not. We’re gonna end up with a total joke, i’m predicting Shurmur.
That would be fun, in a cant look Way from the TRAINWRECK sort of way
Just to quibble. Both Weeb Eubank and Don Shula won Superbowls in their next jobs after winning an NFL championships. Weeb also won an AFL championship before winning Superbowl III. However, Weeb was just over 50 when he won that first (NFL) championship. Shula on the other hand was in his 30’s when he won his NFL championship and in his early 40’s for his two Superbowls.
Well old coaches might be better, but the thing you have to like about Gase is how flexible he is in adapting to his players and adapting to different offensive systems. Also you like his lack of ego. (Well, not really but you know what I mean.)
Yes, JP has been a diva, and is declining, and cannot objectively evaluate his declining skills. But the reason he might get cut is – Where else are the Eagles going to get the cap space that they need (especially if they want to sign Bradford)?
Looking at the Eagles cap structure it seems they are in a small box for 2016 but in 2017 they can cut Peters if they don’t cut him this year, Maxwell, DeMarco Murray, and even Kendrick with some but not a crippling dead money figure.
Caleb Sturgis is under contract for 2016, can they get something for him in a trade? I would think so.
So the Eagles had a bad offensive line in 2015, a bad running game, and insufficient talent and experience at wide receiver. So doesn’t that mean Bradford was probably pretty good, especially considering he was coming back from injury and had to learn a new system.
you certainly covered a lot of ground in this post.
Why hasn’t Todd Haley been mentioned? I think he’s paid his dues since his KC days and has been overseeing arguably the best offense the last 2 years. Him and Ben didn’t see eye to eye initially but when Ben finally bought all in he started putting up career numbers. Just throwing shit at the wall right now but Haley is interesting to me.
i wonder this too…..but i don’t know if he is the “father figure” some of these players are looking for
And Gase was?
people were raving about Gase being a great communicator. Haley is known to be screaming at his players on the sidelines
i wasn’t crazy about Gase fwiw…..but i wouldn’t mind if he got hired here and i wouldn’t mind if Haley was either. I just think the guys doing the hiring are looking for a “yes man” of sorts who will play nice with the FO and play nice with the players…….which is now why i think the new coach will be either Shurmur or Doug Pederson
I have to wonder if this is less of an interview and more of just picking his brain. Using him as a “consultant” to give the young kinds in the Eagle’s FO a seasoned take on coaching.
I think Tommy is right, far too many mediocre to downright bad seasons for Coughlin. Although, I would absolutely take the two Superbowl wins over the next five years or so!
Tom Coughlin? Loose skin…old balls……gross.
Carson Wentz is having a nice day…..
He has it all – SCARY pick considering he has played D2 football – But he has an gun of an arm, quick release, accurate and all the size you want.
Seems to stare down receivers and has not been tested with quality CB’s and advanced schemes but damn i like him a lot.
he will stare a guy down, but i have also seen him go through progressions and move safeties with head movement as well. IDK if the staring down comes from some thing he likes pre-snap or what
Guenther…have we scheduled him?
I think so,,, because I was surprised we scheduled an interview with him and not Hugh Jackson
Experience is an extremely important asset. Only one way to get it! How old is my guy Hue?
50 years old
Sold!
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He does Mike. Great kid, humble, 4.0 GPA. He gets it.
Exactly the kind of guy Chip is looking for…oh wait…shit…
oh boy , now he’s got the Mayock endorsement
That is a franchise in disarray
How,does Baalke even have a job? He went to war with Jim HARBAUGH who had just taken them to SB, pushes HARBAUGH out, all the best players retire, Kapernick implodes and that entire franchise goes from SUPERBOWL to a complete mess led by Blaine Gabbert…. How the hell is Baalke surving that?
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It’s like Chip Kelly, who went to War with Howie, won the power struggle, and made a mess of it all, consequently he wasn’t allowed to coach the last game or address his players, and was removed from The Building, do not pass Go. Do not collect 200$…
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Baalke must have pictures of the Niners owner in a jacuzzi with three 10yr old boys in Thailand to still have a job after the mess he made… Lol Baalke and Chip Uniting? Id be fascinated to see the mess they can collaborate on… Lol Baalke drafts Criminals, Chip Kelly cuts them the next day…Baalke/Chip connection could rival Jerry Jones in terms of Dysfunction
Because it wasn’t Baalke.
It was the owner.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/12/29/jim-harbaugh-jed-york-san-francisco-49ers-coaching-search
Apparently Mike Garafolo said on NY radio that if Coughlin becomes HC in Philly, he will try to take McAdoo with him to be HC in waiting.
I’d rather he bring OBJ with him to be Wr in NOW:)
Then you have to hope that chip kelly gets the job… He would cut OBJ for having a blonde Fro-hawk and not ask for any compensation in return
#culture #dontspintheball
hows that possible. i thought lateral moves werent allowed
Add assistant HC to his title.
If a coach is under contract, they’re not without the team’s permsission. However, if they hired someone else as HC, that guy may want a different OC.
not a big fan of the NYG offense. i suppose it could maximize the RAC potential of huff and agholor.
That sounds a bit long hand-wringing speculation, but ’tis the season.
Garafolo confirmed he said that on sports radio but also said that Maronne might try to keep McAdoo if he was hired as HC by the Giants.
Just Coughlin is interesting. Coughlin plus McAdoo is very, very interesting. Coughlin alone won’t entice Bradford to stay, nor do I see him as a good developer of young QB talent from the draft. But the two of them together, that’s a different story.
Color me intrigued…
The last head coach who brought a designated successor with him was Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick to the New York Jets. That ended with Belichick abandoning the Jets for the Pats.
No thanks. Too much can change, including the people involved.
Also … Likely agent-fueled rumor by McA’s guy.
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aw man, they really have no clue.
Just because they want to interview a guy, doesn’t mean they would actually hire him.
Maybe because they couldn’t contact NFL assistants.
The rumors I feared the most were:
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1) Eagles really liked Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly 3 years ago.
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2) Eagles interviewed Brian Billick 3 years ago, Wasnt there a report this week about us interviewing Billick again?
Not from anyone reliable.
I’m surprised Gase would want to work for Miami as an organization… Even if he liked the talent, that ownership structure and recent dysfunction has to be worrying.
hate to say it, but people can say the same about us these days. I don’t agree, but it’s being said.
Who’s saying it? It appears to me that Chip is pretty much considered the primary villain in the recent falling out, even by national sources.
No, Howie is mainly painted as the bad guy. I think it’s overblown, but it’s being said by many. At the very least, doubt has been cast.
Who are these many? Everything I’ve read has mostly talked about how Chip was apparently a big douchenozzle.
there’s a lot of that, but also a lot of commentary about how uncertain the Eagles front office is with Howie back. It’s out there, doesn’t take long to find it…
I thought the sme thing… Talent SHOULDNT even matter if you can’t trust the front office…
Not if you get final say on personnel and your own personnel guy.
Wasn’t gonna happen at NovaCare.
Tannehill vs Bradford?
more like 100% Tannehill vs 50/50 Bradford. The uncertainty would have to be a factor.
Blehhh QBs that haven’t lived up to their contracts or draft position?
The inceeasing obsession with Bradford reminds me of the chorus screaming that Eagles fans weren’t worthy of Foles.
Bradford holds the cards.
Even if tagged, he can force a trade to where he wants to go by refusing to sign the tender.
But maybe he stays. Who knows.
I would think his feelings about staying with the Eagles will be greatly influenced by who is hired as HC.
Stephen Ross is a desperate man. I can only imagine he gave him a hell of an offer.
Apparently he received complete personnel control so yes…they were thirsty
Probably gets to bring in his own personnel guy.
And they collaborate with Tannenbaum — with Gase making the final call?
If Gase wanted personnel control then no thanks.
Exactly!!!
Never again. Ever.
Agreed. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt and it didn’t fit.
Roto:
Dolphins VP of Football Operations Mike Tannenbaum said new HC Adam Gase will have control over the 53-man roster.
It’s a lot of power for a first-year coach with only
coordinating experience. Recently-promoted GM Chris Grier will be limited to the draft and free agency. Gase will also handle play-calling and doesn’t expect to hire an offensive coordinator. The Dolphins are clearly all-in on Gase.
Having control of the 53 sounds reasonable.
LeVing the GM to control the draft and free agency is where most of the external roster building is done.
Yep. I was afraid that something like that would be the only thing that could derail him from coming here. That’s too good an offer to pass up.
Maybe Gase is a bad interview. He did get passed over for Tomsuls
No – 49ers wouldn’t let him pick his own DC so he turned them down.
I’m surprised Gase would want to work for [Philly] as an organization… Even if he liked the talent, that ownership structure and recent dysfunction has to be worrying.
You could substitute Philadelphia and your statement would also make sense.
I don’t think lumping Lurie in with Ross is even close to valid.
The luster from all those NFCC games has worn off. I think we are dangerously close to Browns’ territory
Lurie = Haslem? Not even close. There are some issues here, but let’s not try to equate the two.
That’s close to troll level over-reaction, right there.
Anyone know who Cary Williams is supposed to guard this weekend? I’m trying to start him on fanduel
lol, good call…I’m starting Randall Cobb since the Skins have been getting torched by the slot receivers recently
Currently starting Rodgers but i’ve been debating on whether i should start “fucking cousins”
Start Cousins he will put in some nice work the next few weeks as they run the table
Society frowns upon it if you start fucking cousins.
2nd cousins, not blood-related is okay, right? Right?
Of course
Depends. In some Counties, I’ve heard the best place to score is at family reunions.
Somebody help an old guy out. What the hell does “preaking” mean?
freaking?
Not freaking. Preaking. Seen it a bunch on twitter. Have no clue what people are talking about.
Use the urban dictionary?
Good call, They say it basically means the same as freaking. So why not just say freaking instead of inventing a new word?
i saw it there under “preak” which means a horny freak or a pervert…i guess they just use the p from pervert and replace it with the f from freak……????
Yes, but a secondary definition just said it was another word for freaking. The first definition didn’t make any sense in the context of what I was reading.
usually it’s spelled phreaking when I see it..but I guess the younger generation is too cool to include the h now.
doesn’t it have something to do with hacking into computer systems?
a philipino saying “freaking”?
Giants interviewing Mike Smith on Monday.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/09/giants-to-interview-former-falcons-coach-mike-smith/
Falcon players really liked playing for him.
Four playoff appearances in 7 years. 1-4 postseason record.
Not the game planner Reid was on defense (Smith’s area).
Seemed to have the same kind of in-game management issues Reid had here.
He had some really good defenses in Jax.
I’m not sure about him as a HC.
he’s perfect – Lurie
Then why didn’t they play harder for him in that NFC title game choke vs. San Fran that lost me my suicide pool that year?????
Seriously?
Yes seriously. I would have put like $800 in my pocket. Very seriously. F Mike Smith, F Atlanta.
That’s a legitimate gripe then.
$800 is still real money.
Yeah, that was the longest I’ve ever survived in suicide. To say I was devastated is an understatement. Especially given how big of a lead Atlanta started with.
Eff it Vikings, Redskins, Bengals, Texans I’m taking all underdogs
i did exactly that years ago and won. It was the year the saints lost to seattle who won the division at 7-9 and Marshawn ran all over them, that was the first game of the wild card weekend….i forget what the other two games were but the final game was the packers/eagles where tramond williams had the game clinching INT, Packers were 2.5 point underdogs and i took all the underdogs that weekend 100 bucks turned into $2100
I can’t bring myself to think about the Redskins advancing.
Why? They are nice could maybe….win it all 😉
No wins vs opponents with winning record? Meh. Think they win tomorrow though.
Kirk is the best QB in the league that’s all you need
Maybe they like Mcadoo and want Coughlins input or they want his help selecting a coach. Strange year, I would take him over gruden I guess
But but Guenther
Like I said maybe they just wanna know who Coughlin thinks they should hire lolol Or bring him in as advisor or maybe Billy D really is the leading candidate after all he shut coughlin out!
“The Victor Cruz injury was entirely bad luck.”
FALSE! That was karma and great luck.
So reading about Gase getting personnel control has me wondering… What would have happened this year if Chip hadn’t gotten control? I’d love to live an alternate reality where that was the case, to see what might have been instead of what was.
Control over the 53 man roster. He decides who’s active on game days. Whether its in the contract or not I think its normal for coaches to pick the 53 on game day
Playoff football man, it’s always sad when you’re not in the dance. I normally pull for the Packers if the Eagles aren’t in it. I hope they crap all over the Skins.
I’m rooting for the Skins
packers are my go-to team as well
I pulling for big Red. Hope the Washington Snyders get blown out, but the Pack haven’t look very good. I’m afraid Washington will advance.
I am afraid the Skins will win tomorrow.
They will don’t be afraid
For the record this weekend:
Chiefs over Houston (I was going Houston, but bailed due to Duane Browne being out)
Bengals over Steelers
Washington over Pack
Seahawks over Vikings
I would like to see SEA lose
No. No. No.
Seattle is a team I like and they’re required to knock Carolina out of the playoffs.
Eff them both, the Redskins will deal with Carolina next week
Washington is due for a date with death in the Arizona desert.
Arizona wants no part in the Redskins they will be the hottest thing in Arizona
Trent Williams incessant holding meets Bruce Arians incessant crying about calls to the refs; Williams gets called for holding 10 times. Washington loss.
I have the same. But I’m worried about the Bengals.
Lol
KC with the knockout blow early
What happened
return td
Knille Davis ran the opening KO back
Yeah, but weren’t they up like 50-0 on Indy a couple years ago and still lost.
These aren’t the Chiefs you remember
yea…that Chiefs team “backed” into the playoffs that year and ended up playing an away wild card playoff game after looking like a strong possibility to have homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.
this year they started out bad, but are riding a hot streak going into this away playoff game
Got towin the easy part of your schedule. There’s enough sub .500 teams that you should be able to get 7-8 games that way.
What do say? Success is the best revenge?
Would love to see Reid take out the pats
Cincy slapping around Pittsburgh, while hopefully causing mass-suicides in Pittsburgh, will force KC into a road loss at Denver next week,.
Where a healthy Dalton rides them to the super bowl against the Redskins
not happing, big ben is going to shit all over them today.
INT festival!
Rumors of Adam Gase taking Cincy DB coach Vance Joseph to Miami with him to be the DC
And then we take their DC to become HC
i have no qualms with that, keep Shurmur as OC
So is Peterson the favorite right now?
Seems like him and Shurmur are the names I’m hearing a lot but Guenther, McDermott, McAdoo and Austin are still in it
Seems like it.
I’m actually glad we didn’t get the “hot assistant.” Color me jaded from Chip.
Yeah that’s fine but Id prefer Guenther
Why are you so high on him? Just curious.
Mainly because my friends father Peter Giunta says he’s heard great things about him around the league
And he seems intriguing enough
Also he’s a somewhat younger guy who’s been a long time member of the Bengals defensive staff and even with Zimmers departrue has done well plus he’s a local guy. I think he is a nice low profile signing for us who I prefer to Pederson
And with him you can keep Shurmur which should entice Sammy B to resign and the players seem to like him so I’m down with Guenther/Shurmur
Why not just hire Shumur and let him hire a DC?
Cuz I want Guenther damn it!
And here’s me scratching and shaking my head why the Eagles are not interested in Dave Toub. I’d take him over Pederson in a heartbeat.
he seems to be well liked…Toub that is
They could be interested and the media just hasn’t picked up on it yet. Not available until tomorrow.
maybe people think we’ve been asking about pederson but we’ve been asking about toub.
Four letter first name, begins with D, media just got confused.
Watching Hoyer is going to make people realize we need to keep sammy b.
or make the Texans realize they need Sammy B
that too
Same with Alex Smith.
Alex is mobile which i think might give him just enough, but he’s limited as a passer. But put a guy in the system let him do what he’s comfortable with, etc…
I’d take Sammy over Smith any day of the week.
me too, Sammy is one of the better passers in the league, just needs to get / stay in the system, hopefully he can continue to be healthy.
Hmm looks about the same to me.
Brian Hoyer making the case for Houston to trade away a fortune draft picks for a QB.
Or just ride it out with Hoyer again and reach for Hack.
Just sign Bradford.
I’m sure that’s what Tom Condon’s thinking.
Hhaha, man good defense, almost forgot how that works.
Those INTs were both on the QBs. Defense made the catches though. They should teach our WRs.
And Jenkins. Jenkins would have easily been voted to the Pro Bowl the past 2 years if he could just catch the ball.
Would be a receiver if he could catch.
I highly doubt he would be a WR if he could catch. He would just be a safety that could catch.
Does Andy or Pederson call the plays for KC?
Andy. That’s why I don’t like Pederson as a HC candidate. Is he going to have to learn how to be a play caller and a HC at the same time?
So what does he do?
He fetches the bear claws for andy.
I think we interviewed the wrong coordinator
“so what exactly would ya say….ya do here?”
Why does he need to play call as a head coach? Manage the game and team and leave the play calling to the OC
Can you guarantee he’d do that?
I imagine that is something you can ask in an interview.
i’m sure it’s a “collaborative effort”
Didn’t realize that TX turning into NE of the south.
Well Jags winning it next year
If Pederson gets the gig, I would say there’s a decent chance that Shurmur stays. Get Bradford in the mix and i like that. I know he seems boring, but hearing that guys “gravitate towards him” is a good sign. I also like that he was kind of a shitty nfl qb. There are lots of good coaches that are former shitty qbs. Maybe km trying to talk myself into him but I just think there is a lot we don’t know about and isnt all the way fair to be disappointed if hea hired.
I’m good with that if you can get me a significant upgrade at DC.
That’s key. But you know what I want? I want a DC who is a lifer. I don’t want someone who is going to be a HC in a couple years.
Agreed.
Hard to get that, unless you’re looking for a retread HC that’s a good DC but not a great HC. Lovie Smith?
I’d be ok with that. Someone who is a really good DC who had maybe exhausted his chances as a HC.
Lovie would be GREAT DC here. He’s out of his depth as a head coach unless you want to be a team that plateaus well short of title-worthy.
I’m taking Toub instead. Thanks.
I’m curious as to why?
While ESP is always wrong, he’s sometimes funny
If it came down to Gase deciding between Philly and MIA which it seems then I’m not shocked he chose MIA. More stable of a situation particularly at QB and the team does have some very good talent. Younger team then us as well. Wouldn’t be surprised if the Bradford situation turns coaches coaches away from us. Coaches jobs are pretty much tied to their QBs, and we aren’t even sure if we have one. It’s a very real and scary possibility that Sanchez may be our starting QB. This team does not have enough talent to even be a very solid team if Sanchez is our starter.
Will the Bradford situation be resolved before the draft?
Free agency is before the draft, so probably. Eagles could franchise him, which means the situation could drag on for months after that.
Thanks.
Either way, I hope they move on from Sanchez.
yeah sadly gotta cut him. Save money and develop someone.
Decent backup QBs still make some coin. I absolutely hope we draft a QB this year, but there can be three on the roster. Will be a tempting cut though if there is another QB available for cheaper who we think is an OK backup.
Yes. FA starts early March and draft late April. FA is pretty much done by the time the draft starts. Bradford will be a hot commodity in the NFL due to position, lack of talent at position in NFL, the need for the position, and unimpressive draft class.
There isn’t a QB that you would put in Mariota’s or Winston’s class in this draft, and there have been MANY more impressive QBs then those two coming into a draft.
The interesting thing is that Sanchez put up numbers last year about the same as Bradford this year. Despite being the goofball we all love to hate. This made me think he actually was a very good backup quarterback. This year, of course, was a disaster. But then, a lot of things went bad with the team this year.
He Is a good backup, not starter. Bradford after the bye week was clearly a better QB then Sanchez was last year.
Does Houston even have a back-up?
Weeden. So no.
Bradford just making money sitting on his ass after missing the play-offs. We’re gonna overpay for him soooooooo freakiiiiiing baaaad! He is gonna be the best paid QB in 2016.
yup. Sad thing is tx had Fitz last year, they must be kicking themselves watchig their current situation.
Would kind of be the same situation; Fitzy just ruined last weekend by throwing bad INTs.
Or just tagged and told to pound sand if he won’t sign a short term deal.
Still, I think it would be a major mistake paying Bradford like a superstar since he most certainly is not one and those contracts has the potential to ruin teams, but damn, Hoyer making Bradford look like Manning in his prime, yet he fucking made the play-offs with his team while we’re fucking watching.
I agree. So you can really flex on him with the tag while you draft a QB early this year.
If Bradford won’t play for a deal I can get out from in 2 years; he can deal with the tag.
I agree, worst case scenario with Bradford signing a 2 year deal is that he plays like a fucking monster and we’ll have to pay megabucks to keep him here, but then he will obviously have proved himself worthy of that contract.
I’d go 3 years/ $54 million with $30 mil as the signing bonus. Salaries of $3 million, $9 million, and $12 million. That wold be cap hit of $13 mil in 2016, $19 mil in 2017, and $22 mil in 2018. But you’d cut him going into 2018 to save $10 mil vs. the cap if you have the next guy ready, but extend him long term if he lights it up and your draft pick doesn’t progress.
In either case; he puts $33 million directly into his pocket next season and we’re not on the hook for any scary long term money.
Fitz and Cousins are going to set mark, can’t see him getting paid as much as them because numbers not even close.
The Texans are a better team than we are. It’s that simple.
That’s what happens when you suck continuously, get to draft good players.
Except the Texans have had more playoff runs than we have in the past 6 years.
would say that’s b/c their division sucks, but….
Idk they were pretty legit when Foster was the best RB in the league. They just had to be in the AFC.
team that’s been in need of a qb for a few years.
Oh texans
if only they traded back in 2014 and took mack instead of clowney and then managed to get carr or bridgewater later in the rd
I think every team in the NFL could look back and say those things.
Why on earth would you want Bridgewater over Marcus Smith?
b/c at that time we had our franchise qb, matt barkely.
Bridgewater = poor man’s Matt Ryan
Fair to say Ryan is a poor man’s Joe Flacco?
Nope. Different type of players.
Better then what they have.
I like Bridgewater a lot more than you do I guess.
He’s just overrated.
really? i don’t know if anyone says he’s anything other than he is right now. I think it looks bad b/c of teams like the texans who could have drafted him and didn’t b/c of his pro day.
Hmm not really. He’s just a game manager for AP. He’ll have his moments but even Hoyer had his moments.
agree, but bridge has a higher ceiling, much better w/ he ball.
Yea it’s definitely higher than Hoyer but Bridgewater isn’t making any strides right now. 28 TDs in two years even when you have AP is pretty bad.
Well it’s pretty safe to say Andy is advancing in the playoffs while Chip Kelly is still 0-1.
They might just have to put jj watt in full time at qb
3 picks in the first half, is that bad?
Uggh. Watching the HOU/KC game, Bradford to Houston makes way too much sense. Hopkins, pretty good D, and promising coach? A lot closer to home in a market that’s not so insane? Uggh.
O’Brien’s first phone call after going to the lockerroom at half time is to Tom Condon.
We’re either going to franchise tag Bradford and keep him for ourselves or trade him to Houston.
Doubt he’s going anywhere.
trade him for Hopkins!!
I was just signing on to say exactly that. Franchise and just destroy Houston in a trade or keep him.
tag
Both . . . .
Eagles tag Bradford.
Bradford won’t sign the tender.
Houston trades a pair of 2nd Rd picks.
Double the value? Yes please.
that deal mirrors the Alex Smith trade.
the key is Houston has a deal in the can with Bradford before the trade
Still would prefer a decent qb vs 2 second round picks but if he wont sign then whatev.
That’s the scenario if Bradford doesn’t want to play here — regardless of coach/money.
Yeah, wrote that wrong. Meant we were going to tag Bradford and either keep him for ourselves or…
If Howie could pull that off, he would get about two years’ of grace from me.
The good thing about Howie is we can trust him to handle this bradford situation right. I can imagine Chip saying something along the lines of “o well, he doesnt want to be here, let him go.”
100% Howie gets the best deal for us here.
If we get rid of bradford, then what?
brian hoyer may be available.
Zero cap hit on Houston to cut him.
Rookie QB or we trade for one. God forbid we start Sanchez.
It may not be a question of “getting rid” of him.
It may be getting the best value for a guy who doesn’t want to be here — no matter who the coach is or how much money is offered.
Tebow is still out there
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perfect zone-read guy
Nice guy, too.
Smolenski has to like him for the impact on jersey sales
That signing might have been the first kink in the armor for me with Kelly. I always thought tebow was the worst nfl qb I have ever seen and was just dumbfounded that we signed him.
Probably wanted to endear himself to ownership getting those jersey sales up pre-season
I mean…who buys a tebow eagles jersey?
Christians in the south?
South Philly is religious?
i saw alot of them at training camp, it was disturbing
He’s out there looking for gase
“I’m in great shape and I love god, in gase you haven’t noticed..”
Build a team the right way instead of trying to Snyder our way to a championship? Just a guess…
TMI Steve Smith, TMI. His wife is gonna be pissed he tweeted that lol.
Lol.
maybe it’s a silicone one they’re going to put in.
I can only imagine the Texans’s GM picking up his phone and calling around for a QB after Hoyer almost throwing another pick.
Wasn’t Coughlin almost fired the year before he won his first Super Bowl? It’s not like the Giants were perennial contenders. No thanks.
Career 8.5-7.5 record when you do the match. I agree; no thanks.
jmac, 1 catch 6 yds
Elite
Good use of $11 mil /.year right there. One of the moves I don’t fault Chip over at all.
Yeah, there’s plenty of mistakes to point to with Chip, especially in hindsight. Not signing Maclin is/was not one of them.
$11 million
3 hundred+ yard games
1088 yards 8 TDs
Well I was wrong about him not having another 1000+ yard season but still..
Better than our guys, but not worth that contract.
Having one competent wide out might have saved our season. What he did in Kansas City has little relevance to what he could have done here.
Probably doesn’t mean anything, but…
http://phillyinfluencer.com/2016/01/spotted-connor-barwin-and-steve-spagnuolo-hanging-out-in-philly/
MY MAN SPAGS!!!!
“Connor Barwin is perhaps the most beloved, if not the most beloved, Eagles in the city right now.”
Whew, that is a train wreck of an opening sentence. I don’t know the Philly Influencer but proofreading is not their strong suit.
That is possibly the worst, if not the worst opening sentence in the news right now.
Comma splices ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That’s not a comma splice. One error is the incorrect pluralization of “Eagles”. The other is omitting “one of” after “perhaps”. Even if the execution was correct, it would have been clumsy and non-idiomatic.
6 pts in 3 quarters — still like pederson?
I think that’s a little harsh.
4 tos 6 offensive pts
Houston has the best defense over the last 9 weeks of the season allowing 12.6 PPG.
And Pederson didn’t overthrow a wide-open Albert Wilson on that long pass.
Or behind Maclin inside the Houston 30.
That’s another 10 points.
Really hard to tell who to give credit or blame to with KC’s setup. They’re being very conservative. They know Hoyer is so bad, so no reason to take risks.
if watt is hurt it’s over, otherwise comeback possible?
You’re not being fair. Our team is used to scoring more on special teams than offense. So he’s a great fit.
Maclin might have torn his ACL for like the 5th time.
He did, he knew it right away, guess when it’s the 5th time you know
In all seriousness, how many did he have?
i think this makes 3?
3rd time on the same leg it seems.
Wow. That sucks if so.
Damn, I bet he wishes he drank the smoothies now!
Maclin…. torn ACL? Hope not.
Self-tacklin 4 life
one reason i was glad we didn’t re-sign him
Agreed. But I am happy for him that he got a huge payday prior to tonight.
oh absolutley , seemed like a good guy
Why I didn’t want to sign Maclin for that much $
i keep telling everyone chip didn’t do a bad job, made some hard decisions
Many of which didn’t work out. The NFL is result oriented.
I mean, Chip offered him 12 million, its not like he said no thanks dont want Maclin.
So Watt and Maclin, who wins there? So few weapons for the Chiefs but it’s JJ Watt.
Chiefs win; because Houston might not score.
Maclin wasn’t having much impact in the game
Him being there opens things up for other players such as Kelce. It’s not all about just the catches.
Seems like that isn’t true at all.
It is.
Except their offense took off after Maclin was out.
Last time I checked nobody wins with injuries.
Watt hurts more currently because they can’t let KC score any more points. Maclin after this game because it really looks like an ACL.
A Chris Conley sighting!
The Texan covering Conley was calling for the challenge flag. How do these guys not understand the rules yet?
i think it’s more a sense of pride, ego
Fine, but signal incomplete or pat the ground, or something that isn’t a penalty if it happens.
Most football players aren’t exactly knocking on the door of MENSA membership
they’re knocking on the door, only the door has a large sign that says ‘PUSH’ on it.
Wow no playoff wins since 93? They also haven’t drafted a Qb in the first round since 83’…..think it was Todd Blackledge
Yes. 7th overall.
2nd QB selected behind Elway (ahead of Kelly, Eason, O’Brien, Marino)
Wow, that might be enough to make me stop for 30 years, too.
The rout is on
My god is Andy adapting in the middle of a game?
Because Doug Pederson told him to…
These are the kind of comments coming from Miami fans today.
Do they hate the Gase hiring big time.
[Greg Richards, commenter, posted a host of them last evening.]
And most of us would have loved the hiring.
i think miami fans are getting sick of the “offensive guru’s”
Who’s out there, really, that’s a slam-dunk proven commodity?
Some of the commenters wanted H-Jax.
But who’s out there who’s a slam-dunk “must-have” guy?
there’s not this year which is why gase was so hot and why i lke shurmur if you can get a good staff around him.
Nobody, and even if you do get someone “proven”…that doesn’t really mean anything. It may be comforting knowing the guy has won before, but picking a coach is almost like picking in the draft in that you really don’t know what your getting and what obstacles and problems will get in their way.
picking a coach is really “who would your staff be” reid is great at assembling staff / finding coaching talent.
His staff slump is what got him fired, and now he has a good staff again…
What you have are people with no experience and people who have been fired. That being said, what a team needs most of all is good players.
Huh..I didn’t think that was offensive interference. Mike Evans does that all the time to CBs.
Gruden puts in a plug for Pederson.
Are the misguided fans who don’t want to pay Bradford watching the Texans game? The Texans is what our ceiling will be if we lose Bradford., YIKES!
It’s not just about paying Bradford.
It’s about Bradford wanting to play in Philadelphia.
And hiring a coach just to please Bradford is no guarantee he’d stay.
Where do you think Bradford would rather be?
I dont get the “Bradford doenst want to play here” thing going around. He has no choice. We will be willing to give him fair market value ($17-$19mil) to be our QB. If he is unreasonable we tag him and control his rights. With his injury history it would be too much of a risk to play on a 1 year deal. We would also have the ability to trade him if we decide we want one of these rookie QBs. QBs are a tremendous commodity in the NFL. No way we allow him to just walk.
Bradford has about $50 million in the bank. If he does not want to play in Philadelphia, he will not play in Philadelphia.
So Bradford will just sit out? That’s extremely unlikely.
He is not getting out of Philly unless we tag and trade him. I see that as a possibility, but no way in hell does Sam hit the open FA market.
30 points by KC . . .
Most allowed at home by Houston in 2015.
Next week — Denver of Pats — is the kind of playoff game, when he coached the Eagles, that they’d win.
Nothing would surprise with Reid in the post-season.
hard to say game is indicative of anything, 6 tos? jj watt out?
Chiefs have won 11 straight.
Defense giving up an average of 12 PPG over that period.
Same kind of recipe that Reid road to 5 NFC title games with JJ.
Just saying, nothing would surprise me.
They beat the Bronco’s imho.. not sure if they beat the Pats. Depends on the Steelers imho.
Beating the Pats twice in NE in the same season I think would be difficult.
Did Houston allow those points or did Hoyer give them?
What did I just watch? How does Brian Hoyer ever resemble a real competent QB?
he never did, but ne ties allowed him to get a job he should have never gotten.
Hoyer has had good games before. I don’t know how but he has.
Before tonight . . .
Hoyer: 19 TDs 7 INTs
Chief’s defense was on point tonight.
That wasn’t even the Chiefs defense, he was just throwing it right to Chiefs defenders. I almost think the fix was in. Just atrocious.
I wish you could say that to our safeties and DBs.
Yay! For Big Red. Hope he gets a shot at and smashes the Patri*ts.
That was his first shut out? Wow.
If you’re anti-Pederson, the longer the Chiefs advance the more pressure there is to hire another HC so all the assistant candidates aren’t scooped up by other teams.
can you interview pederson now?
You can, but you can’t hire him. If he was the guy, he could talk to potential assistant candidates but guys may want to get jobs locked in and not wait for him to decide.
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interseting not hj. maybe internally they know hj is gone?
Maybe. Or maybe the Eagles are on to something in not wanting to interview him.
very strong possibility as well.
Personnel control?
Off-topic, but I can’t help but thinking after watching the abortion that was Brian Hoyer’s performance in that game that Sam Bradford’s price just went up.
tag price stays the same, but we’re happy to tag and trade
Trade nothing. Tag and work out an extension since Doug Peterson is the coach and Shurmur is the OC
🙂
i’m wondering if shurmur is a required piece, i feel like he should be but not incoming coach is going to take that
Anon . . .
Agree.
Shurmur’s been an OC for only 6 years (including his two years as a HC and 3 years “baby sitting” Kelly’s offense.)
His track record, without Kelly, isn’t particularly good.
Reid brought in Rod Dowhower — an NFL lifer who’d been an OC for 12 years before coming to Philadelphia. Had some success along the way. Not much, though.
I hear rumors that he will be petersons OC and that the Eagles want to retain a few assistants from this years staff… Who knows what’s true tho
If Bradford doesn’t want to re-sign once the new coach is hired tag-and-trade is the way to go. We ought to be able to get something for him. Maybe a young veteran QB with some consistency issues and a 2nd round pick? 😉
Good QBs should be paid
Not sure I understand. What information do we have about how Bradford performs in the playoffs?
My point was that there are a lot of bad quarterbacks in the league and some of them are employed by teams that are otherwise good enough to be contenders. Somebody like Houston is going to be willing to overpay for Bradford if he reaches free agency.
Hoyer performed better this year by DVOA, DYAR, QBR, quarterback rating, and wins. But Bradford is obviously a better quarterback.
I’m not defending Bradford. I think he’s a mediocre quarterback, and against playoff-caliber competition I’d expect him to perform like a mediocre quarterback. My point is merely that this game was a reminder that in this league, even mediocre quarterbacks are going to get well paid because there is such scarcity at the position.
In general though, Hoyer got worse as the year went on (like 2014, though the regression wasn’t as bad), while Bradford got better.
Bradford was indeed awful to start the season (new system, hadn’t played in 1.5 years, so somewhat expected) and that dragged his season averages down a lot. His last seven games were consistently good (and in general an upward trend), against competition good and bad (not so much with Hoyer). Bradford was passing the eye test by the end of the year, to me. It would have been nice to see him in a playoff game.
If you could get the September Hoyer all year long and in the playoffs, sure he’d be very attractive. But he’s faded twice in two years now.
I would not want to do a top-end QB contract (relative to Maxwell for CBs), but something for decent (between 15 and 20 yearly average, lower in year 1) dollars we can get out of in two years (and drafting a young QB this year anyways) would be fine by me. I just doubt we can get anyone better.
Wish we knew how the Eagles are going about this search… Will they offer the job to someone who blows them away in an interview… Or do they want to interview a list of candidates and then go back and hire their favorite?
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Rumor: The Eagles are just killing time until they can interview the next Eagle coach, Doug Peterson, in the meantime gathering info with all the other interviews…..I guess if they don’t hire someone by Saturday, I would assume they are just waiting for KC to lose to announce the hiring.
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Another Rumor I head was that Gase was our top choices he went on a few interviews and had his choice of who he wanted a 2nd interview with and chose the Dolphons ver us and the Giants… Who knows what’s true, but he was the first person besides Shurmur/DUCE who was interviewed..
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Rumor #3: they want a guy who just wants to coach, who they don’t have to worry about pulling a power play in two years….. Sounds like a shitty way to choose a coach. This would suck if it were true..
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What I don’t understand is if Doug Peterson is Lurie’s top choice, how the fuck could he have possibly come to that conclusipn? He probably hasn’t talked to Peterson in YEARS. He has never called plays and is just running Andys offense. I’m not saying he can’t be the right man for our job, but what info could they have used to reach the conclusipn that he was our top target? Just because andy Reid recommended him? Because he was an inexperienced QBA coach who never called plays like andy? I don’t understand…. if we interview the guy and are completely blown away by him and hire, I can respect and support that… But before you even talk to the guy, what info can you possibly use to reach the conclusion that he is our top target? I don’t understand, because andy said so?
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All I care about is SAM Bradford. extend him. Tag him, whatever you gotta do to make sure he isn’t the QB for some other team in September.. That’s all that matters to me, I’m not going to pretend I know enough about all the candidates to be able to have an opinion on who is the best …Since All I care about Is Bradford, maybe Doug Peterson ismt a bad idea, I would think there is a chance that Doug Peterson woudl be ok with making Pat Shurmur the OC, who brings the experience Doug lacks, and has the connection with Sammy B… Doug Peterson could probably be controlled more than the top names so the Eagles may be able to keep the assistants from chip staff that they liked.,
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The only things I don’t like about Peterson is how they reached the conclusion that he is their choice without interviewing him yet, and it doesn’t feel great if we hire A coach no one else respected enough to interview..
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But if Doug keeps Shurmur and SAM in Philly, sigń me up I guess…
Rumor: Duce is the the guy Lurie wanted all along and he’s just interviewing others to give us something to discuss to keep our minds off the reality the Eagles aren’t in the playoffs.
Rumor: When they fail to find a promising coach, Roseman will step in and do it his own self. Hey. It worked for the Spurs.
If Kelly is allowed to take over GM duties, Howie should be allowed to take over the HC job.
Lol you are onto something. Sigń me up for coach ROSEMAN!
Maybe that’s Hinkie’s plan, after all.
Two false starts for Whitworth so far. Peters was right!
I have a feeling Peters has not watched much film of himself this year.
And a sack fumble.
For those of you that care about Penn State, their DC John Shoop has been hired by Tennessee.
This will be Shoop’s 13th different coaching job since 1989.
Smh big ben had some terrible pocket presence there
I am not at all surprised to hear that the Eagles are positioned to hire Charlie Manuel as their next head coach.
Who???
He’s just a little older than Coughlin.
So 75?
Perfect. Maybe they’ll allow rocking chairs on the sideline.
That would make Eskin even better.
Bengals fans have to be so tired of this ish by now.
idk too many coaches who could keep their job 13 years without winning a playoff game
lewis gets fired we interested?
i would be for at least DC
I’d take a legit 4-3 DC immediately.
Alex Marvez reports Eagles brass are meeting with Doug Pederson in Kansas City tonight…..sorry if this was already reported here
tonight? damn
a little odd to me too….makes me think Lurie/Howie may be strongly leaning towards hiring him?
Idk what to really make of it
Sounds like they want to get that interview done, at the very least, so they can evaluate him vs others in case they need to move quickly on someone else (maybe they didn’t want to give Gase an offer until they interviewed Pederson, and Gase didn’t want to wait, for example).
The refs and announcers are all pulling for Pittsburgh in this game.
this game is going to turn really ugly i feel….well it’s already pretty ugly from a football standpoint, but i see some fists flying pretty soon
definitely. and Phil Simms will be sure to blame everything that happens on the Bengals (and Burfict in particular)
i try to watch CBS games on mute with some music playing. Simms and Nantz are just so oblivious to everything, Nantz is too worried about trying to make some irrelevant issue into some kind of controversy. Listening to Simms call a game you would think he was just introduced to the sport.
They are without a doubt my least favorite crew to listen to call a game, it’s like they have no idea what they are watching
Simms is by far the worst color guy on any network. I have no idea how or why he is on CBS’s top team.
Bengals fans settle down!
“you don’t live in Cleveland!”
Sam Wyche is only 1 year older than Tom Coughlin. Maybe the Eagles should interview him next!
Crowd was cheering Big Ben carted off they are as bad as those Philly fans!
What’s wrong about cheering an injury to a rapist?
LOL
Also threw some bottles at him
New worst fans in the NFL!!! Yay not us!
“At least they didn’t throw snowballs at Santa Clause”
-Every newspaper article tomorrow
Denver owes Burfict a thank you gift for taking out Big Ben
Nothing says NFL playoffs like Landry Jones vs. AJ McCarron!
What’s Dick Vermeil up to these days??? Might as well bring him in for an interview!
i think he’s younger than Coughlin at least!
Eli would have thrown the ball down rather than get hurt. The intentional grounding is no worse than a sack but better because no risk of injury or fumble.
And Eli likely wouldn’t have gotten called for intentional grounding anyway
Correct. League office cheating for NYG 24-7
Makes it a smart play. There is no real penalty.
Fuck Eli
Can the Chiefs beat the pats without Maclin?
I’m still hoping the Chiefs will be playing Denver
And dalton plays next week and beats the pats?
Chiefs and Bengals in the AFC championship would be sweet!
When? The Bengals are coming back for a win.
They can beat them with Maclin?
Are these assholes seriously questioning whether the tackle of Ben was legal? Give me a break
Nantz will try to make something out of anything he can
Same assholes that put Bettis in the HOF when he didn’t deserve it.
i agree
C’mon Bengals. Stop the Steelers. I’m sick of their fans.
Worst fan base outside of NYC
ha! I have a place in Myrtle Beach, SC and the whole area seems to be crawling with western PA transplants…..it’s overtaken with Steeler fans
Hopefully Hurricane Hugo II comes through and drowns all of them.
ugghhh…my place is a 1/2 mile off the beach so i’d rather no hurricanes come……but i catch your drift!
Ok; how about a secret subliminal signal during a Pens / Rangers game that makes all people watching kill themselves?
deal!
Why go empty backfield there?
Is Burfcit clinically insane? It seems like there is always at least three guys tasked with keeping him from doing anything stupid.
yes, he was even worse in college (arizona st.) very talented LB but i think went undrafted because he would always have at least one personal foul call every game
He also had a terrible combine and ran a 5 sec 40.
yea that sure doesn’t help either lol
Yep, he played out of control. That along with his slow 40 time kept him off a lot of teams draft boards. I still can’t believe he went undrafted though.
People fall in love with measurables too much.
I refuse to believe that statement unless you can show me some numbers to back it up.
67% of people love measurables 78% of the time.
After the Carson Palmer injury 10 years ago, it would be some sweet irony if the Bengals win this because they injured Pittsburgh’s QB.
Bengals were hot that year too. I thought that was their year to win it all
Don’t we want bengals to lose so their coordinators are free to take jobs.
The Chiefs won and we are apparently going to hire Doug Pederson.
Would have the Bengals DC
But I really hate the Steelers
I just realized the Bengals haven’t won a *playoff* game since they ended Bo Jackson’s career 25 years ago (they lost that game but won the previous week). The curse of Bo Jackson. Serves them right.
Wow.
AJ Green is pretty good.
true
Where was Boykin?
#justanickle
Yay!
Looked like Reynolds missing that tackle
Did the Eagles run that 2 point try for the bengals?
I think we would have passed it
Just means the Chip Kelly to Hue Jackson transition will be easy.
Ha ha. I was thinking something similar but couldn’t put it into words as good as this.
Try to go 20 yards to get 2
Holy shit. That was awesome!
Yay! Yay!
Ha if that’s a safety
That would be hilarious. There would be a riot in that stadium.
burfict’s hurt lol. oh no it was 95 my bad.
It can’t be said enough, Jim Nantz and Phill Simms are absolutely dreadful.
Amazingly bad.
How in the hell are they CBS’s #1 crew!? Its pitiful.
same way joe buck and troy aikman are fox’s
Aikman is good. Buck might cancel that out though.
I can’t stand aikman constantly bashing the eagles while rooting for the cowboys/aaron rodgers. when he has no rooting intrest/favorite player in a game he’s good, but otherwise I can’t stand him
No way – Aikman and Buck are so much better
But thats more a commentary about how bad Simms and Nantz are.
I mean a chimp with a microphone would be better than sims and nantz
Nantz and Simms make me appreciate Cris Collinsworth….that’s how bad they are
But still not worse than Joe Buck.
i actually don’t mind Buck for baseball…..football he is no good to me
my disdain for buck ended with his classic line in our super bowl, “eagles fans everywhere must be yelling at their TV’s wondering wtf andy reid is doing !!”
htf did nantz get any cred I don’t know
What if we were waiting on Tomlin?
This is the best game ever.
I was typing this as the play started: Two hands, dummy!
SMH
How do you fumble!!! You have one job.
This game is like an episode of Dragon Ball z. Nothing happens till the very end
It’s like the universe doesn’t want the bengals to win a playoff game…
The Bengals don’t want them to win a playoff game
big ben back…wow
Oh boy
Of course, the refs are handing the steelers the game. Bullshit.
The was actually pretty bad. I thought they were calling a BS pass interference
How can you tell his head will be there? I don’t know what is legal at all.
Gotta be under control more than that… that was a high-speed shoulder direct to the head — not just a glancing blow, but a nasty, nasty direct hit.
Yeah true.
95 has his helmet off
Guenther is kind of shitting the bed right now…definitely don’t want him as eagles HC. over conservative coverages and lack of discipline of players…not what we need
How about Pederson?
well when you put it that way…
pederson?
This game is bananas. And Burfict is an idiot.
The Bungles strike again.
WOW
#culture
I didn’t see the penalty on the reply. The last one.
Yeah. Adam Jones was just standing there. But a 35 yard field goal is much easier than a 50 yard field goal.
Esp in this weather
Yeah, not sure on that one.
He kind of shoved one of the steelers coaches who so happened to be Joey porter
Only medical people should be on the field.
This game was a barnburner
Holy shit how did bengals do that? Fumbled. Then a non play 15 yard penalty.
Anyone think Marvin Lewis survives this???
Hopefully the refs and Pittsburgh don’t when ISIS kills all of them.
Nope. He’s done.
If ISIS could order a murder of the refs that would be a good allocation of their resources.
ISIS pretty much stays in its own $hithole area, its Al Qaeda who does the commando stuff.
Wouldn’t it be nice to be a team like the Steelers and the Giants, who get every call in every important game?
True. Hopefully the Steelers get a visit from a terrorist.
culture
I think that second penalty call was BS….what is a coach doing in the middle of a group of opposing players? in the middle of the field?……just let that go refs
That should not have been called
Player was down. That’s why coach was out there. Why wouldn’t you penalize someone who took a run at a coach?
Porter was in the middle of a bunch of Bengals players. He definitely said something.
He’s an asshole who should die in a beheading.
So what if he said something? That doesn’t give players a free pass to run at him.
Fuck him and fuck Pittsburgh.
Fine I agree but that doesn’t make it less of a penalty.
Should have been a penalty on the Steelers.
you keep saying a run at him? was he tackled? was he pushed down? no!
He was out there starting shit. Noone “took a run at him”. Jones pushed his shoulder and the refs should have ignored it.
Because that coach, and anybody associated with or rooting for Pittsburgh, is a piece of shit who should die in a terror attack.
took a run? Joey Porter is the OLB coach out there for what reason? an offensive player was down injured, Porter went out there to start shit and the Bengals took the bait, but that doesn’t mean that the refs shouldn’t have the simple common sense to realize what was going on there.
Joey Porter should die screaming
Exactly.
Yuck. But Bengals deserve that loss for stupidity.
Yeah, that’s a game that earns a head coach a pink slip.
I don’t want any of that lack of discipline here
I feel bad for the Bengals fans
for the fans i do, but not the players
Coughlin to the Bengals makes too much sense. Needs a displinarian to come in and shake down that team. Too talented a roster to waste like this
He has a lot of family in NJ. When you’re 69 that stuff might matter.
Up until the very end of that game, I was thinking it’s great to have a guy like Vontaze Burflict who will fight a team like the Steelers(who are dirty as hell themselves). I also saw Adam Jones and thought “A guy can be a knucklehead early in his career and mature.” Then they both crossed the line and killed their team.
I think Marvin Lewis may be done with the Bengals.
That was a kill shot from Burfict, just completely bush league. Really bad stuff.
Agreed. That was egregious. But I thought Shazier’s hit on Bernard was dirty. He intentionally aimed for the head of Bernard. They called a flag on an earlier play where the Bengals’ S clearly aimed his shoulder at Markus Wheaton’s chest but at the last moment Wheaton himself lowered his head and caused the shoulder-to-helmet contact and they called a flag on the Bengals. But no flag on the Steelers? You’re going to say “One guy was a defenseless receiver and the other was a runner” but if that’s the rule then they need to change the rule to reflect common sense.
Yeah man, I think the rule in that situation is garbage. Aiming for the head is aiming for the head.
The Steelers are dirty. The refs seemed to ignore things like hits after the whistle when the steelers did them in that game, but cracked down against the Bengals. But the end of the game stuff was crazy.
They Steelers are bullshit. Their whole city should burn to the fucking ground.
Haha. Which one do you hate more? New York or PITTsburgh?
New York. They blow. But Pittsburgh can also eat an AIDS dick and die.
LOL You’re killing me here.
Somebody should kill the officiating crew and every Steelers fan.
Didn’t we have a talk a while ago about perspective, and not letting sports get to you? Anger management and all that?
Mike, are you a Carlin fan, by any chance?
Pittsburgh
So how are we feeling about Hue Jackson after that debacle? Does that rub off on Hue or is he not part of the bigger problem? If I’m Lurie I’m taking a real close look.
You mean Guenther? Jackson had McCarron at QB.
Cant blame the offense because the HC and DC cant control their players
These seriously fucking blow. They all need to die.
https://twitter.com/REALPACMAN24/status/686053389604634626
I assume he’s talking about Joey Porter.
The game is on the line and you’re in the playoffs. STFU and focus on playing football. Some people really just don’t get it.
Especially the clueless refs who cheated for a Steelers win.
Joey Porter was one of the best (or worst depending on perspective) trash talkers in the game. He was in there to stir things up, I have little doubt. Refs could have called two offsetting penalties there probably, which would have been more fair — why would the coach be out there?
I can’t wait for Porter to die screaming. Fuck him.
I’m dead lol
I hope Porter dies in a drive by shooting next week.
Looks like Marvin Lewis may be available tomorrow…
Hopefully he gets a chance to kill one of the refs tonight before he’s job hunting.
JLC saying if Bengals fire Lewis, they will likely try to hire Guenther as HC. See him as Mike Zimmer in the making.
Because you just knew a perfect shitstorm of a game ending like that would somehow someway affect the Eagles.
He reported the same thing before the game began.
I know. But up until Hill fumbled that ball it looked like that would be a moot point.
I wonder if that was part of Lovie Smith being let go — they may have really liked Koetter and realized they were going to lose him, so they had to make a choice.
That game had a Burfict ending
I might root for Sweet Meteor of Death before wanting any of these 10 remaining teams to win Super Bowl 50.
That meteor should land on Pittsburgh. Fucking cheater assholes.
Of all the great games I’ve ever seen, this one was the worst.
Fucking bullshit NFL cheating for Pittsburgh again.
https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/686055049374646272
soooo….Culture beats Scheme?….or something
refs beat fairness
Common sense?
https://youtu.be/votpmwC25Ek
Take the Steelers first round pick away for the Porter bs.
Definitely should be fined/suspended. Taking away 1st a bit much.
You have to make an example of this so none of this crap happens ever again.
Derrick Gunn
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Jeffrey Lurie, Howie Roseman, Don Smolenski are in KC… will interview Doug Pederson at 8am Sunday.
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Really jeff, howie and don?!..you have to fly to kc to go get pederson at 8am in the morning? Is it that serious
I think it’s rule in playoffs.
Yeah, I don’t quite understand the infatuation here.
They’re just stopping by his crib on the way to get some barbeque.
Per NFL rules…
If Permission is granted for an interview during the post-season period, then
1. There can be ONE (1) interview only, and it must be held in the Assistant Coach’s home team city;
3. For Assistant Coaches whose team win the Wild Card game, then the interviews must be held after the Wild Card game, and before the Divisional Playoff game.
Ok thanks for giving me some clarity..now it makes sense
Plus they want to hit up the river casinos and walk out with some strippers.
If I were a Bengals fan, this would take a long time to get over.
Yeah, I’d get some people out to keep watch at the old Suspension Bridge tonight.
for 13 years!!! they have had some pretty decent teams too. Palmer and Dalton are not the greatest QB’s but they are better than at least half the teams QB’s. Decent RB’s, solid o-line, good receivers-Ochocinco, Houshmanzadeh, A.j. Green and on top of that the defense is usually half decent defense, sometimes a really good defense…..just can never win a playoff game, something always goes wrong….under Lewis at least
OMG they had this game won…. even after the fumble they had a good chance to win.
Without that 2nd 15 yard penalty they probably still win.
Such a nasty season for them too …they go 8-0 with win over Seattle, then lose to Arizona by 3 in wild game, lose Dalton in game against Pittsburgh I think…
Tom Coughlin? Tom Couglin?! Tom Coughlin?!!!!!!
Andy Reid -> Chip Kelly -> Tom Coughlin -> my dream hire, Marty Schottenheimer*
*if still alive
Cleveland Browns are hiring Doug Marrone as their Head coach according to Ian Rapaport
nvrmnd, bad info
Pretty sure charlie manuel is eyeing up the Browns job instead
Radio guy made a point of gase wanting to coach in miami, in a division in which the chances of him making the playoffs in the recent future are nil, vs going to the nfc east and whether that had something to say about how bad the eagles situation is.
Spin Spin Spin
Those narratives don’t make themselves
First, I hope the phrase recent future was used on air.
Second, I assume the conclusion was Gase is clearly risk-adverse and just want to hide safely in mediocracy, and therefore we were smart not to sign him, right?
I actually hav an admiration for those radio guys. It takes talent to walk the line between waffling back and forth on who to support while pointing out how obviously wrong the team is for every interest they show.
That assumes that the Eagles wanted Gase at any cost and didn’t want to continue to interview other options.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles interest in Gase has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles not signing Gase has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles interest in Coughlin has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles lack of interest in Coughlin earlier last week has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles interest in McAdoo has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles interest in Pederson has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Radio guy made a point of how Eagles signed [FILL THIS IN IN THE FUTURE] has something to say about how bad the Eagles situation is.
Pretty much a day in the life of “Radio Guy”
[…] Old is In – Iggles BlitzI think the Eagles should talk to Coughlin. Compare him to Gase and McAdoo and the other assistants that are getting a look. Decide if Coughlin sounds like a viable option. See how he compares to the young guys who are making their way around the interview circuit. That might help you decide which of the other candidates sounds like the better candidate I think Coughlin to the Eagles is a long shot, but there can be value in talking to him. His players in NY did come to love him. That’s one of the things that Lurie wants. Find out how he created that environment and balanced it with his desire to be a disciplinarian. […]
Wow. Sleepy board. Happy Sunday morning, everyone. Brace yourselves for the Doug Pederson avalanche. Or is it hurricane? Earthquake? Express? Sunami? You get my drift. This could be one of our more exciting Januray Sundays in the post postseason era.
What’s funny is that if I see Shurmur stay and a BIG upgrade at DC, I could talk myself into being ok with Pederson.
That won’t happen with Coughlin or McDermott.
Exciting like if you wake up and Donald Trump is president.
Shudder the thought. Can you imagine?
Nope I have a 4 year booking with some Indian Buddhist monastery should that ever happen
OT: Did anyone else feel as though they were on a different planet yesterday when watching how the four playoff teams played defense? After watching the Eagles the past few years, I forgot what hard hitting, tough nosed defense looked like.
Yep, very physical football. Defenses looked well coached and always in position to make plays. LBs looked a 1,000 times faster and more instinctive than ours. Other teams LBs looked so much more effective than ours in rushing the QB too. DBs covered well and didn’t give WRs 15 yard cushions like ours tend to do.
I hope our new coach gets a DC that preaches this type of defense.
I did until I saw how that Pittsburgh “win” was officiated. Then I realized that we’re still on the planet dominated by marketing execs in the league office.
But to your point; I’d love to have our D play with that level of fire.
3 of those offenses are terribad.
Watching the Steelers game, the thought popped into my mind that I don’t see a chip kelly team beating top teams that played with the physicality we saw in the Steelers vs Bengals game
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/686182935284727808
Malcolm says “our practice schedules and pace were different, but i played the most snaps of any safety in the league and this is the healthiest ive ever been”
That appears to prove Sports Science is fo real!
Wonder how the interview is going…
“Something to drink, Doug?” Lurie asks, looking at the latest coaching candidate with an oddly intense look.
Doug grins obsequiously and glances at Roseman, who shakes his head with a small gesture.
Pederson clears his throat. “Well, no. Ice tea would be fine.”
Roseman’s lips curl into a barely visible smile.
Lurie nods. “Now. We’ve already established that we’re looking for a chef, not someone who wants to buy groceries. What kind of dish can you make with chopped liver?”
Shurmur? Why so much love for him as the OC?
He’s run a team’s offense as his own man for just 4 seasons.
His offenses finished 29th, 26th, 29th, and 25th.
For his other 3 years he worked for Kelly … Who called the plays and prepared the gameplans (if you want to call them that).
Besides being recognizable in a police lineup by Bradford, what is Shurmurs’ attraction?
Continuity with Bradford if you keep Bradford.
Anything else?
Positive Reid connection. I think he was a good leader and had Cleveland playing well even though dolt Haslem fired him.
Maybe he’s learned a few things since then?
If a guy with Shurmur’s record was brought in from anther team for a HC interview, what kind of reaction do you think it would prompt on this board?
Would that guy have a connection to good part of Reid years or not?
Good question.
Let’s say both scenarios … One candidate with no connection, the other was just a position coach for Reid but not an OC for him.
The “no connection” guy would need to have an ability to justify why his head coaching term wasn’t successful, possibly due to very poor ownership. But if the guy was a poor head coach due to being a dolt (Greg Schiano for example), I’d be trying to lop off heads.
The other type of guy, Leslie Frazier for example, I wouldn’t mind as head coach if he interviewed well and wants to fit it.
Fair and good point. I’m just trying to figure out an answer. 🙂
I have a feeling it’s been Pederson all along, so I’ve been mentally preparing myself for that type of onslaught on this board.
It’d be kinda crazy. Right?
As for Shurmur, if the HC — whoever he is — wants to keep him, so be it.
It would be bad. But he’s also had three years under Kelly and saw a much more effective offense — so he might have learned a few things. As HC, there’s also the chance he could hire an OC himself and turn over play-calling duties.
As for teams… he was OC for horrible Rams teams (won 5 games combined the two seasons before he got there, went 1-15 his first year with an end-of-the-line Marc Bulger, then Bradford’s rookie year). They had horrible defenses too. Then two years as Cleveland Browns head coach, where he had Colt McCoy / Seneca Wallace as QBs his first year, then got blessed by the organization drafting Brandon Weeden and played him year two. If he had anything to do with drafting Weeden, then that’s not a good sign, but I don’t think there is any offensive coach who could have done much with his situations.
think shurmur is ‘before and after kelly’, i still think he probably needs an offensive minded oc to rely on but i like him
Sounds like the Bill Davis of OCs.
http://www.seniorbowl.com/accepted-invites.php
Any players in particular you folks are especially excited to watch?
Boehm, Cash, Dillon, Whitehair, Houston-Carson
Interesting theory behind why the Eagles don’t want Gruden, Jackson, and others that may want more control.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/08/gruden-doesnt-fit-with-what-the-eagles-currently-want/
Two things.
“Roseman wants” should be replaced with “Lurie wants.”
and I actually don’t mind them looking to more compartmentalized the coach’s role in the personnel side of things. I’m hopeful we get a good working relationship for all parties.
But I’m also a “Howie Guy”, so not likely to be in the majority around here.
At the end of the day, I want rings. I don’t think there’s a “right” way to do things. If something works, keep improving it to make it better.
I agree, I just think I’m a little leery of anybody coming in with a predisposition to wanting combat with other members of the organization.
Another article backing the theory that HR will not go down the same road after a power struggle. Although, I’m not a fan of Florio. His motive is to post a controversial piece and then end the piece by basically saying “unless that’s true”. I think this story holds water though.
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Still don’t know who’s the best choice. Sometimes being successful on another team as a coordinator doesn’t = success as a HC. Sometimes that coordinator isn’t given ample time to see his plan come to fruition. Tough choice, tough job. The waiting game continues…
What’s a joke is that Howe is the GM without the title.. Its just a way Howie can go on without being held accountable for anything,, this just Muddys the waters of responsibility and accountability.. I would Rather HOwie be named the GM, instead of our owner Lying to us, making Roseman the GM, and making it difficult to hold him accountable for anything
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I think Lurie jumped the shark this time. Hard to really defend his actions since firing Chip. Seems to be an unhealthy situation in the FO and may end up handicapping the team.
Can’t disagree…. Which Is Probably why our coach will be a Doug Peterson who no other team is considering as a coaching option. Basically the candidate with the least amount of leverage lol..
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A HC they can control… I’m expecting the coaching staff to look like some shitty High school reunion, Doug Peterson, Shurmur, Duce, hopefully Bradford… A Coach who won’t fight being under ROSEMAN….
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i don’t care about if I like the coach, or what his credentials are… I just hope he ends up being the right choice, and grow into a leader who can bring much needed stability to the franchise
I think(and correct me if wrong) that Lurie was saying it’ll be a “collaborative” decision based process that included himself. IF that fails – does he fire himself? LOL.
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You wonder how the interviews are going. Gase asks — so who’s in charge here — and the answer is “well, kind of all of us”. Would any HC want to answer to several people? I have no idea if that’s true. I agree with what you saying that if the “executives” decision process has grey areas — how confident can a HC be in that process.
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Lurie needs to establish a clear structure.
Lol it’s ALWAYS a COLLABORATION! GMs ARENT sitting in Dark Caves, Isolated from the world makng decusions on their own, Every single decision is a collaboration, GMs have tons of scouts and personnel people weighing in on every decision, giving their oppinions, but at the end, they don’t Vote on Decisions. 1 man, hears all the opinipns and Info, and that one man Ultimately makes the Decision.. Most teams call that man the GM, in our situation it’s ROSEMAN only with a different silly title
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Every front office Collaborates on decisions so it sounded pretty ridiculous of our media to let LURIE get away with feeding us this bullshit at the press Confrence….
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Ultimately ROSEMAN in Charge ISNT at all a bad thing… I just hate how they went about this and since we made Chip accountable, I wish Lurie would do the same with ROSEMAN. He obviously respects him, so give him the rope to hang himself and let’s see how good he can be…
One Roseman is and always was only responsible to Lurie, and he is frankly in the best position to be able to assess his success or failings.
As for how much a GM he is i think that is hugely flexible at this point, depending on the coach, who they hire under him to run personnel will all have impacts on his role.
Howie regardless of what you think of him as either a team player or talent evaluator, he is evidently a fantastic cap and deal maker. I think Lurie values this and wants to find a system that is able to take those obvious strengths and make it work, something that did not happen with either Reid or Chip.
If this setup does not work this time i highly doubt Howie will get another chance with the Eagles.
HOwie is the GM. Call him whatever you want, but ultimately the GM decisions will fall on him…. The guy they will hire is the New Marynowitz/Gamble aka second in command to the GM ROSEMAN.
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I really really don’t think ROSEMAN is a bad GM at all.. I think there are a lot of things ROSEMAN has grown to be good at, so I view him as a valuable asset… I just don’t like HOW we got HERE!
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For starters, while I think he could do just fine for us, I don’t think he is so GREAT that we shouldn’t have taken a week to see if we can find an even better candidate… Had they interviewed 4 solid candidates and reached the conclusion that ROSEMAN is our best option, I would be fine with it and there would be nothing to discuss. Again, ROSEMAN can do a lot of good for us, but he didn’t do such a fantastic job that we shouldn’t even keep our eyes open for an Upgrade..
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After enduring chips semantics and BS, I dont appreciate our owner playing games and insulting our intelligence with his Bullshit.. I would respect him more if he didn’t care what anyone thinks and named ROSEMAN the GM, which he is…
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The Eagles have been doing this bullshit for so damn long, muddying the waters of responsibility and accountability in the front office so that half the time we don’t know who is responsible for what… I can’t forget the. “Copious Notes” press Confrence from LURIE where basically he claimed that he kept notes so he knows who is responsible for what, How Convenient, that way you can spin blame any way you want… I’m tired of having to interpret if it was a HOwie draft or an Andy Reid draft, if Chip made the pick or if it was a ROSEMAN pick… They been doing this crap for years.. Shouldn’t take secretive copious notes to know who to hold acfountable.. He talked about wanting to make chip qccountable, great, when is he going to make ROSEMAN accountable? Tired of the spin, the bullshit…at the very least we should be able to know who is making what decusions, but they been blurring these lines for years…
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ROSEMAN ISNT named GM.. Two years from now when we look at a failure of a draft, im sure we will hear that Roseman wasn’t the GM, so he didn’t make the pick… Same bullshit, and Lurie will get away with it
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Again,mi think we can do a lot worse than ROSEMAN, I think he brings a lot of good strengths to the position. I don’t HATE having him back in Charge, I HATE How we Got here and How they are spinning it..
Lets say you have a guy that the coaching staff and scouts both analyse and say he is the 5th best player. GM does not agree as strongly but both sides strongly back the pick. GM drafts him 10th, and the pick busts. Is that really on GM? If the GM has already fired that scout and promoted one with a better success rate what else could he have done?
If there is a player who has a clear character grade from area scout and background check and it turns out he is a weed fiend… and is out of the league in 3 years. Is that on the GM or the individual scouts involved?
From the outside we cannot assess performance internally so love to blame the figure head. But from an internal perspective you can have someone doing a good job (especially early before they have been able to recruit and introduce their own systems that can take 5+ years) and still make some ‘errors’ from the outside.
Lol so let’s stop judging HC and QBs based off wins and losses since plenty of factors that theyhave no control over led to those wins and losses. Let’s not hold anyone accountable and become thee Marvin Lewis Bengals…. In today’s what have you done for me lately NFL. All Coaches and GMs are held accountable. That’s what they sigń up for… If they chose to listen to someone else’s opinipn and it fails, THATS on them… That’s the realitiy of TODAYS NFL… Feel free to change it if you want, im just going by how the game is played today
I have another idea on Jackson… I want nothing coming from Bungles. That team was out of control from the opening whistle and they paid for it in the end, and while that mainly on the Head Coach, Coordinators can and should be helping set the tone and expectations for the team.
I trust Lurie to make a good hire (I still stick by the choice to hire Chip- it was well worth the risk and we may still get rewards from it), and who ever they choose i will give at least a year before coming to any conclusions good or bad about.
jackson coaches offense, those guys are generally well behaved
One media guy with an opinion that people will use to fuel their own narrative.
Has Marvin Lewis been fired yet? How many years does he get to fall flat on his face in January? They were facing a QB with a jacked up shoulder who couldn’t throw 20 yards and their lack of discapline ushered the steelers down field for an easy FG smh..
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Marvin Lewis first coach in NFL history to go 0-7 in the playoffs… These Bums are inventing new ways to lose playoff games, it’s amazing..
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If last nights game happened in philly, we would never hear the end of what a disgraceful fanbase we are..
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I feel bad for Cincinatti if Marvin Lewis gets to see tomorrow as the head coach
Coughlin. He split from the Giants and the Giants fan act as if they lost their one of the greatest coaches ever. I guess 2 superbowl wins will do that. A lot of bad play. A lot of bad talent. Couple of things that were clear – he’s very passionate about football. The fans loved him and finally – you never read about internal struggles with the front office.
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I don’t know how the Giants ran the team. Were the players handed to the HC or did the HC have a major say on who was on the team?
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How often does a two time SB winner HC become available? I guess that has to be taken into account. I still don’t know how I’d feel about hiring a coach from a rival team…lol. Eagles have been pretty successful against him. Maybe the interview today goes so well that he’ll never get interviewed…lol.
Coughlin coached the team he was given. Giants have a very clear and strong divide between coaching staff and front office. This can succeed and fail – the 2 SB rings show the success, the consistent lack of talent and ‘fit’ at times shows its failings. How much is poor coaching and player development and how much is poor player evaluation is very hard to tell from the outside.
I think it’s absurd how COUGHLIN got fired but GM Reese survived….
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When was the last time the GM gave COUGHLIN a OL? How about a secondary? The last time they had a pass rush they were in the SB it feels like lol… the Giants seem to have adopted Andy Reid’s mantra of not valuing LB’s, Whem was the last time they had a linebacker.?
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I don’t want COUGHLIN as our coach, but it’s absur that GM Reese still has his job
coughlin blew a bunch of games, time management. reese probably stayed b/c he hit on the best receiver of this decade.
How often has a Super Bowl winning coach gone on to win another SB with a second team?
Next one will be the first. Weeb Ewbank won two NFL Championships with the Colts then later won a Super Bowl with the Jets, if you count that.
I trust that question is rhetorical, because you can find the answer in about two minutes if you don’t trust what you’ve read in this blog previously.
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Unfortunately, the answer isn’t statistically relevant. How many SB winning coaches changed teams? That sample is very small. The fact that e.g. Vince Lombardi did not win a SB with Washington doesn’t mean Coughlin wouldn’t win in Phila. Of course, I don’t think Coughlin WOULD win in Phila, but it’s based on my understanding of his strengths & weaknesses, my take on the talent and situation in Phila and, yes, age and the time it takes to turn around a program as opposed to some BS stat you read somewhere.. .
Classic GEAGLE
Apparently, Steelers coaches Mike Munchak and Joey Porter face fines. Screw fines. Coaches should be held to a higher standard. Those guys should be suspended.
Doug Peterson, allegedly the next coach of the Eagles is being interviewed as we speak…. Rumor that Eagles want Petersons to keep a few assistants in place like Shurmur and DUCE… If that’s true, hopefully we can also retain Undlin and Fipp….. Id love to keep Azzinaro, but thats probably not likely
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Eagles leave for the owner meetings on Tuesday, if we don’t hear a coach announced by like Friday, I would think that will mean that we are just waiting for KC to lose so that we can announce the Doug P hiring
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Anothet Rumor circulating is that DOUG P is the top choice, the Eagles want a coach without a big name that they can control, get him to retain current assistants and who they don’t have to worry about making a power play two years from now…. I would assume that this rumor is based off of speculation and not actual intelligence from a source closely associated with the Eagles Braintrust….. I guess we can see how true this is by whether or not Shurmur is named OC or if Doug P brings in his own OC from out of town…
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Doug is the least sexy hire, but that doesn’t mean he can’t grow into a fantastic coach for us,, whoever the hire is, deserves a chance before we decide he can’t do the job… The only aspect of this that kind of bothers me is what info is Lurie basing it off of that Doug P should be #1 on our list? When was the last time they even talked to Peterson? A decade ago? How did they reach the conclusion that he should be so high on our wish list? It’s not like they can study his play calls. What has made him a desired candidate? Because Andy Reid said so? It DOESNT exactky instill confidence that no other teams have been rumored to be linked to Doug P… Can our top choice really be a guy that no one else is interviewing? If true, hopefully we know something these other teams don’t..
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There have been media members who think it’s been Doug P all along and that we are just having interviews to gather info while waiting for him to interview… I don’t think we can find a fan who would have Doug as their top choice, but it’s important to remember that the top sexy choice can fall on his face, and the least coveted candidates could prove to be Gems… Nothing to do but give the next man a chance and hope that LURIE got it right
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I wouldn’t hate a Doug Peterson, Shurmur, DUCE, Bradford Union…. Fingers crossed..
Pederson with a “d,” not a “t.”
Spelling his name correctly would require research and reading on the subject matter, taking too much precious time away from posting uninformed opinions.
I’d be willing to bet they have a lot more detailed information than you could imagine on Pederson, regardless of how long he’s been away. I don’t think organizations think “oh shit, we don’t have a coach…hey you remember that Pederson guy? He seemed like a nice fellow. Put him at the top of our list.” It’s easy for fans to think there isn’t much behind it but if he is their top uy, chances are it’s for a reason and I’ll jump on board.
My auto correct changes it to PETterson… Live with it
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Yes, they most likely have more info then the exaggerated Piont I was trying to make…..but I don’t even like the concept of going into searches with a favorite in mind, but if you do have someone in mind, I just hope they go through the process with an open minded, go thru the process, gather all the facts, and make the best decisions.
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Id be curious to know exactly how they are going about this search, if a guy blows them away at the interview, would we stop the search and aggressively pursue him as the coach, or would we want to go thru our entire list of Candidates and then go back and try to pick the best one?
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But in the end our impressions of a guy, or how we came to the conclusion is irrelevant.. All that matters is that the Next Hire ends up proving to be the Right Hire…. We can’t be back here two years from now doing another one of these searches…
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If we are going to hire the Familiar candidate, I wish we would have hired Marynowitz replacement first, to add a fresh pair of eyes to the coaching search, especially to give an outside opinion on the Familiar choice they plan on hiring… But whatever, the past doesn’t matter, how fans recieve the coach doesn’t matter, how we get to this decision isn’t even important, as long as he goes on to prove that he was the right choice
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Hopefuoly going the familiar route puts an end to the dysfunctional work environment and unites the entire franchise. We need our front office, coaching staffs, playërs all working towards a common goal. Chip sure said he cared about culture, but he thought it helped the CULTURE to go to war with ROSEMAN, and bring dysfunction to our front office?
How are Lurie-Roseman-Smolenski conducting the search?
After a coach is hired, a favored reporter in the local media will write an article based on sources, unnamed, explaining step-by-step how the search was undertaken and concluded.
Sort of a “winner’s history” version ghosted by Roseman to show the Eagles landed their first choice.
I’d rather have a shurmur, DUCE, Bradford union, with a defensive HC like austin or Maybe Sean. But it seems like Jefe wants on offensive HC, in which case I still want someone other than Doug
Yeah thats my ideal scenario as well
I hear you… Not my ideal choice either, but I don’t have an educated enough opinion to really care about my ideal choice…
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Andy Reid was the least sexy candidate and ended up being a Gem. Chip kelly was the top candidate who even became the face of our franchise and proved to be a mess…, hopefully they can catch lightning in a bottle again and find the next coaching Gem
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But I would certainly prefer your scenario… Whoever it is, I want to try to remain open minded and give the guy a chance before forming an opinion.
I hear you, but dipping back into the reid coaching tree just seems like a bad idea to me. I hope it pans out, but I am very skeptical of that move. Just look how it worked for the bucs dipping back into the dungy tree with lovie…it was a disaster. I just hope we avoid a disaster of that mgnitude
Not my favorite idea either…. Seems like some pathetic Highschool reunion, lame attempts to “recapture the Magic”,,, but if this is the path they end up taking, nothing to do but hope that they are right and that we will be proven wrong…
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So many great footbakl minds out there that are an oportunity away from being the next good coach, or the next good GM, hopefully the guys we hire with grow to fit that bill…but it’s hard for me agree with limiting ourselves to a small pool of guys from past Regimes instead of being open minded to looking everywhere to uncover the best man for the job…
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Hopefully we are wrong and they go with a fresh perspective. IN Fairness to LURIE, the Andy Reid coaching tree has had some success, hopefully it produces one more quality HC…. Personally, I was hoping for a fresh GM, a fresh coach.. But I didn’t think we needed a full rebuild, so hopefully signing familiar coach like Shurmur and keeping some of the current coaching staff in place means we try to keep SAM, and continue to build on this roster instead of tearing it down and starting over from scratch…
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Of course the media isn’t aleays right, maybe they are reading this situation wrong and turn out to be way off base with the candidates they are reporting and the signing surprises us with an unexpected hire..
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Whoever they decide on, hopefully they get it right
not sure you need a great football mind, but an ability to assemble a staff of good minds.
Keeping the Chip connection to the side- how tied is Azzanaro to a 2-gapping 3-4?
He’s run 2 gap here, Oregon, and his stop before that Marshall (Vinnys freshman year). He’s been hired at his last 3 jobs dating back almost a decade. It’s fair to say he’s a 2 gap coach.
It seems likely that we will hire an offensive coach, probably Pederson. If that is the case we need a string DC coming in here to run that side of the ball.
I am intrigued by Pepper Johnson and Rocky Seto, but there is no slam dunk candidate out there.
“string” DC? While not ideal that would be a good deal stronger than our paper DC we currently employ.
Waiting for my man Guenther to get an interview, he’s available
Lol your man Guenther needs to be announced as the new Head coach of the Bengals… I’m going to die laughing if they let Mavin Lewis continue to coach that team
Can’t they promote Hue or something? Please give us Guenther
I love defense… Works for me
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If they promote internally they are going to promote Hue… he is further away from the assbaggery that cost them that game.
I want nothing to do with Guenther however… he is too close to the idiocy of Burfict and Jones.
I read somewhere that if the Bengals do move on from Lewis and go internally on the hire that Guenther would be the favorite. Also I wouldn’t put too much into Guenther and what transpired last night. Guenther is a very good coach that has worked his way up the coaching ladder and should absolutely be in the conversation for any HC opening.
What he said
Er… so who was calling plays when they basically had the game in hand with the ball in FG range with under two minutes left, and called a play which resulted in the fumble? You wonder if he instructed everyone to have two hands if they were running with the ball, or to go down quickly if in traffic.
fumble is on player, it’s a run play. it’s not like he can just kneel the ball
Marvin is still shell shocked. When a man is sitting at a post game press conference just rubbing his chest and mumbling to himself you know hes dealing with some real problems. He seriously looked like he ptsd
Im still ok with either hue or guenther being our guy. The offense has been solid and disciplined all year. And the D problem with discipline is more of a #culture issue with certain players that were drafted there before guenther became the DC.
I want no part of that Bengals team.
I would take any part of that Bengals team that has been much more successful then the Eagles in recent memory.
I get where you’re going from last night, but they generally play very well up there.
Wish Howie + Lurie had the pull to convince David Shaw to move to the NFL.
Is anybody able to do that?
Boy am i glad Vontaze Burfict didnt do that in an Eagles uniform !!!
Is Burfict kicked out of thr NFL yet ?
Is that other dope Pacman cut from the team yet ?
Don’t hold your breath on any of those things happening.
Well that was some world class idiocy they put on the franchise
Burfict played great — big part of why the Bengals were in the game still — and it may not have been intentional, but that was a vicious hit which should be fined, as at the very least he was out of control enough to directly impact the head with his shoulder (at least it was not helmet-to-helmet).
Shame he didn’t brawl Porter right after Pac Man was flagged.
Burfict did grab Porter’s shirt (let go quickly) at some point during all that. I still haven’t seen the actual infraction Jones was flagged for.
he won that game pretty much all by himself.
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and then lost it.
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that hit will be on the replays loops forever.
biggest choke in nfl history.
he can own that.
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too bad. I actually feel bad the he had to be such a dope.
some guys here on these chat board really called it correctly in the draft to get him- he is a difference maker – a relentless beast and has great talent.. I was bummed for a full season that WE didn’t have him!!! he was 7th round or what undrafted even ,..
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but that cheapshot is embarrassing.
not good smart football.
oh and it happened literally at the worst time ever.
stupid football instead of leadership football.
he can own the biggest choke of all time.
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now and pacman ..what? you really had to push that dude ..
un f in believable. yet f in predictable.
thug dope proving himself to be sofa king stupid!!
its sofa king unbelievably predictable that it hurt to watch.
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it actually hurts to see someone so f in talented and yet sofa king determined to win dope of all time and wreck his life !!!
The biggest part of the choke was the fumble once they had the lead. Burfict had nothing to do with that. I mean, you certainly would take how he played last night if there was only one tackle which crossed the line and got flagged, but … the timing of that one time couldn’t have been worse. And Adam Jones was the one who was baited by Porter, which is really when you should be able to control yourself.
the fumble was a huge choke .. but all are contributory. I was looking at the RB on sidelines thinking “there is just NO F in WAY that Steelers pull this out” .. the fumlble hurt, but the next minute was more of a choke imho.
pacman getting baited was a bigger choke I think. I mean he did that all on his own!!
if he wasn’t baited then game over potentially; with that coach being in the middle of all those bengals it should have been a flag on steelers- but nope. pacman prevented that,
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nope. pacman has to be chief dope and throw down. what a jerk, what a dope. I almost feel sorry for him except that its in the face of 20 years of good coaching; so he has no excuse. I am fine with pinning the loss on him alone!
that’s why I think the bengals just dump him.
fumble is untimely and unlucky.
Burfict hit is arguably ‘just playing hard at top notch speed’.
but pacman is stupid and about as far away from “good tough hard-earned victory & leadership” as it gets.
(and wtf was Burfict running the wrong way off the field for ??
wtf dude
where the hell is your stupid mind at ??!!
I was praying that he wasn’t down so he would have actually run it back and scored on his dum bass self !!
..well kharma is a bee-yotch bro, and he sure got his kharma.
far faster then he was ready.
that they didn’t give him a delay of game for that was a gift.)
From last week.
Well this is one name that is coming off the hot list.
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/686225713515618304
Not good company to be in.
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/686246729759481857
Sentence explains everything
seattle’s defense can be depressingly good.
Eagles announced their interview with Pederson. Not very long, considering they were supposed to start at 8:00 a.m. I wouldn’t necessarily put too much into that because they already know Pederson personally and don’t have to waste time on introductions. Also, Pederson does have a game to prepare for and could need to devote his time to that this afternoon.
Rather have interviewed their DC
Still can’t believe we didn’t draft Teddy Bridgewater because we had Nick Foles.
Long-term, I think Derek Carr will be the better player. Same point applies though.
Yeah, I don’t disagree.
And yes. Two stud QBs available in the 20s and we passed on them both.
I can. At the time everybody in the world believed we had a QB
the Guber Geoff Mosher said some interesting things.. He started with talking about the Miami report that Coach Phylbin wanted to Draft Derreck Carr in round one to replace Tannahill, I guess PHYLBIN and Brent Grimes wife saw the same flaws in tannahill. Allegedly the GM was against drafting Carr and the owner had to step in and choose sides…. He says its eerily similar to what LURIE had become playing mediator between chip and LURIE becoming the poorly run team like the teams we used to make fun of…
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He claims that he had a source in our War room who said it was so Bizzare and Dysfunctional to see Roseman and Chip would grew to Hate each other making it uncomfortable in the War Room and LURIE was just acting like nothing was wrong, He also claims that Lurie’s Wife and ex wife were also in our war room.. Wtf?
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seems to think that it will hurt our ability to attract coaches because candidates see how Close LURIE is with Roseman who has a reputation of not working well with others, and candidates will worry that if they find themselves at odds with Roseman, LURIE will probably side with the GM, citing how Bizzare it is to łet Chip win the power struggle but instead of firing the loser of the dysfunction power struggle like Norma owners do, LURIE Kept HOwie in the building and eventually chose Roseman and fired chip…
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I don’t know how true this is, and im not sure it has that big of an effect attracting candidates. obviously the top candidates with a lot of leverage Probably will steer away from us, but I’m sure there are plenty of candidates who would put up with this to get a shot at being a HC…
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Mosher also claims that Marynowiz and Roseman hated each other and that Marynowitz would watch games from different parts of the stadium so that he wasn’t near Roseman. No surprise Marynowitz got the Axe along with Chip when Roseman got his power back..
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Hopefully the guy we hire to replace Marynowitz goes on to have a great working relationship with both Roseman and the coach… I don’t know if we will ever find the success we want unless our Front office eliminates the dysfunction and start working well together towards a common goal..
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I think Roseman can do a lot of good as GM for us. People Constantly grow from experiences. hopefully we get all the good Roseman used to bring to the organization, while also growing and Improving his ability to work with others… Roseman won the war, he is more powerful then he has ever been, hopefully this means he has no reason to continue the front office Drama and is able to unite our personnel department… Guys don’t have to like hanging out with each other, but they do need to respect each other, work together well towards one common goal…
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Yeah Roseman has built a reputation of being difficult to work with and getting people fired.
I don’t like this new 3 way power structure Lurie is trying to sell. He needs to name Howie the GM or fire Howie and hire a GM to run the team.
I agree, but Roseman will be responsible for GM decisions, I just they would name him the GM instead of bullshitting us and empower Roseman just like he did chip because he “wanted to make chip accountable”… Roseman has had a ton opportunities. I think he can a good job for us but when will he be made,accountable?
Reading the “tea leaves” from outside can be very hard. If that “source” was one of the anti-Roseman camp, perceptions would be slanted that way. We generally get our info from leaks, but Lurie hates leaks. I think it was a commenter here who mentioned that someone had seen that leaks had stopped when Tom Gamble was fired, so that may well have been the reason for his demise. If Roseman does not leak (or at least without Lurie’s permission, thus earning Lurie’s trust), then likely the news stories we read will in general be slanted against Roseman.
Clearly there was bad blood between Roseman and Kelly/Marynowitz. That might explain the longish search for a personnel guy after Marynowitz was rumored early — Lurie may have been hoping to find someone without past history who could co-exist with both.
The front office must indeed be fixed. That is incredibly important. Roseman may be part of the problem, but it’s so hard to say who was really more at fault in that war. Roseman does seem to be good with the cap, and particularly seems to deal with agents well and negotiate respectful contracts which don’t kill the team — something which might be important with Bradford. As decision-maker during the draft, record is mixed but certainly not all bad. I just don’t know. Donahoe might be in position to be the decision-maker during the draft this year (would make the most sense).
No way this source is just a neutral historian
Yeah… a “war room source” who is comfortable commenting to the press right now is probably Marynowitz or Kelly or friends thereof. Or maybe a scout who knows they will be fired post-draft.
Scout? That is an interesting supposition.
Usually, the scouts aren’t invited to the war room. It’s typically reserved for the key decision-makers. Could be different with the Eagles though.
Per this article from the 2014 draft…
http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/5098/howie-roseman-details-eagles-war-room
“It’s a small room,” Roseman said. “Just to kind of picture it, we have a front table that’s overlooking the board. At that table is ownership, myself, coach [Chip Kelly], Tom Gamble and usually one other member of our personnel staff who will help out by pulling cards and talking about stuff. Then we have a back table with our pro director, who’s Rick Mueller right now, and two other scouts are back there including our college director [Anthony Patch]. Our head trainer [Chris Peduzzi] is back there, as well. Then we have someone dealing with trade scenarios and points and value and just making sure we’re not missing anything. That’s our room. All the scouts and coaches come in for picks.
I don’t think t was a new report…
It’s Gamble. I’d bet all my money
I didn’t really take the report as Pro Roseman news or pro Chip opinion.. I took it as a general observation of what was going on without taking a specific side. To me it came off as an observation of their relationship without being slanted towards either…. but you could be right. If anything I took it as the source bashing how LURIE allowed the front office to operate.
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Like most Intel that comes from an anonymous source, Probably some truth to it and some BS to it
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The report about the Dolphins and Derreck Carr is interesting… On one hand you have to give young QB’s like 4 or 5 years before they can have any real sustained success… On the other hand, Fixing a mistake is basically admitting that a mistake was made and When a mistake is made you can’t compound the mistake by being afraid to acknowledge it… Apparently not everyone in Miami was sold on Tannahill… Going to be interesting to see if Adam Gase can salvage what Joe Phylbin wanted to give up on..
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The Miami owner/Front office has been a mess for some time.. I don’t know enough about Gase to be upset or Glad that he isn’t our coach. But hopefully he didn’t Choose the Dolphins over the Eagles because it is Embarressing to have our Targets choose dysfunctional owners/front Offices over us.
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Its been a rough stretch for passionate eagle fans, hopefully this time LURIE finds the correct formula to building this program back up to a team that had a chance to contend each year..,
Well, if you’ve just been fired by Lurie (or will be as a result of Kelly being fired) you may have an axe to grind there as well.
The Dolphins thing was interesting. Of course Lurie supposedly kept a scorecard of those debates in the Banner/Reid era and per his public claim Roseman was right most often when looking in retrospect.
Part of the issue. Keeping score naturally leads to guys playing politics. Make it a team that is choosing the players and if the record isn’t good enough, fire the entire team.
All interesting stuff.
But it has the scent of a narrative being pitched by someone whom Lurie fired not long ago.
Maybe not as a direct source. But through allies, maybe.
My thing is that Roseman really hasn’t fired too many people. He fired Gamble and Marynowitz. That’s pretty much it. He wasn’t in charge of anything when the Eagles fired Licht. Tom Heckert got a promotion with Cleveland. Grigson got a promotion with Indianapolis. Louis Riddick’s contract was up and they chose not to re-new it. Not exactly the same thing.
People are guessing that Lurie had to choose between Banner and Roseman — that is a rather interesting political battle to win, to say the least (though some of Banner’s decisions may have been irritating Lurie as much as they annoyed fans). And if Roseman was behind the decision to not renew a contract, that’s close to the same thing, especially if it was based more on interpersonal conflict than actual job performance.
Interpersonal conflict is part of job performance. I obviously don’t know Riddick personally, but he comes across on twitter and radio interviews as being very opinionated. Always talking about the “right” ways of doing things and how organizations should be run. I don’t know if he was more reserved with the Eagles, but when you aren’t the boss, offering opinions like that can justifiably get you fired.
Yep, sure. I was more referring to the aspect of performance of being correct in player evaluations. But impolitic outbursts and ignoring others’ opinions can definitely get you fired (and those are the people most likely to offer opinions to the press).
apparently interview with pederson over already.
Did we interview anyone yesterday? Weren’t we scheduled to talk to Lovie
No we did not unless they did it secretly which I doubt. Eagles have Pederson confirmation on website and it says Pederson is the fifth candidate to interview for the job, joining Duce Staley, Pat Shurmur, Adam Gase and Ben McAdoo.
Thank you sir….COUGHLIN is on deck for tomorrow. I have a hard yime envisioning him becoming our next coach.. I do think there is value in interviewing him and pick his brain. heck I wouldn’t hate it if they considered giving COUGHLIN a consulting job, or giving him some Front Office Role….. But I’d be pretty shocked to see him named HC
What if anything do you make of that?
Pederson couldn’t afford a long interview because he has a game to prepare for?
Didn’t impress or the interview was a formality and they were going to hire the guy anyway
FairOak’s post is reasonable. I expect that they’ve been able to do whatever diligence they need, based on prior history / andy. This was probably more of a second interview than a first, especially they win next week.
Watch the coach we hire not even get control of the 53 man roster… Roseman has emerged more powerful than ever…. Hopefully he does right by the responsibility that comes with his new Power. Getting the impression that our HC won’t be very powerful to put it mildly. I’m sure we will let him hire some coaches, but I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up insisting that he keeps some of Chips assistance in place, and he may not even have control of the 53 man roster….. When Gase was hired, reports pointed out that Gase will have control over the 53 man roster, because it was included in the report, I wonder if it was an important part about the negotiation that not all the teams he interviewed were willing to give him…. Sticking Doug P with Shurmur as an OC isn’t just motivated by wanting to keep Bradford… DP has no HC or play calling experience so Like Chip Kelly, I would think that we would want to sorround him with experienced pro Coordinators for a first time HC to lean on if need be
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Howie has won the War, so hopefully we see an end to the front office drama and the power struggles that have plagued Novacare for too long..
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Speaking of Roseman when the hell are they going to make him available to address the media? Is this silence another Perk of not giving him the official GM title?
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At some point I assume Roseman will have to speak. hopefully the media ask him some good questions and try to get some substantial answers of things he learned and plans on doing different this time around
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Id also like to get some answers about Hulls and the Sports science department. Players have been critical of chip, but most claim that the sports science and recovery program has been beneficial to them
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Whether you love or Hate Roseman, people Constantly evolve and grow… if he has learned from some of his mistakes, we could end up with a good GM on our hands… Roseman is flawed but for the most part he has been better than he gets credit for… Hopefully he will be even better this time..
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Didn’t we recently change our scouts under chip? If so, will Roseman have to rebuild the scouting department?
i wish we had Eric Kendricks : (
I’d rather have Eric Rowe and be able to draft Jordan Hicks in the 3rd
I’d take 1 Darby and 1 Hicks, please!
Should have drafted Martevis BRyant instead of Huff, which would mean that we didn’t have to draft Agholar in round 1 and could have drafted Byron Jones to pair with ROWE as our Future Sheldon Brown/Lito Tandem..
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We would have Martevis BRyant and Jordan Mathews as our young WRs… And Byron Jones/ROWE as our young Corners..
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makes me want to beat Josh Huffs face to a bloody pulp.
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Hopefully Chip Kelly gets a HC job so maybe the idiot would pay an absurd price to trade for his beloved Ducks
“makes me want to beat Josh Huffs face to a bloody pulp.”
YOU HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES DUDE.
We need to get Vikings secondary coach on our squad. I sort of think tha SEA just tust takes downfield shots and then if they go 3/out they have can rely on defense.
Jerry Gray, who was the defensive coordinator for Buffalo when current(maybe interim) Eagles’ senior director of player personnel was GM there.
this scared the crap out of me
haha
Fake. Fooled me at first too. It was kind of obvious, though, if I had paid attention. Can’t sign Pederson to a contract while his team is still playing.
Fooled les bowen as well haha
Heath Evans
@HeathEvans4419hBreaking News here on @nflnetwork: The #Eagles just submitted request to the #Chiefs to interview Andy Reid for coaching vacancy.
He can’t stop trolling, can he. (Even requesting permission would be a violation of NFL rules and might be tampering — you can’t do that for an in-season coach).
Lol Evans winning the chip debate is something we will never hear the end of and haunt us forever
Intentional grounding rules are apparently very lax
rw gets away with a lot
More than any QB I’ve ever seen
Eli?
Question…. If the Eagles decide that DP will be the Next Coach, would we hear this info Leaked, or would they keep it quiet until KC gets eliminated?
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I assume that if we don’t hear an announcement by Saturday, it would mean that We are just waiting for KC to lose to name DP as our new coach…
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would the Info be leaked before hand?
Eagles try hard to prevent leaks but someone in media could pick it up from Pederson’s agent or someone else in KC organization.
anyone else looking at pederson? i mean we also haven’t dont have any other real candidates scheduled. if we start actually lining up interviews maybe i’ll think we haven’t given an offer
Also possibly assistant coaches who would come with Pederson — if they are turning down offers to join other new staffs. The leak would come from the rejected team
I feel like I remember times going into playoff games, where it was known that a Coordimator had taken a HC job, but i might be making that up lol
Last year, it was known Quinn was going to be Atlanta’s HC but cosidering they hadn’t hired a HC by the Super Bowl, it was pretty obvious.
I miss the 4-3
If the Vikings can keep this DEFENSE together, it won’t be long before Zimmer has an elite defense on his hands.,. They have a ton of promising young defenders still growing…. Shame Cordarrell Patterson is a waste of so much talent and potential…. Big fan of the Vikings defense…
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They need to hope AP continues to prove to be a Freak and ends up having two good seasons left in him..
thats what happens when you draft defense, defense, defense, defense
Yes sir…. You end up with a defense that looks something like the vikings/Panthers.. #Jealous
works well if you can make it to jan, otherwise you just look like stl.
Having a real QB helps
Yep…you end up scoring only 6 points in almost 3 quarters. 🙂 Sorry, had to say it.
Its not like it rains TDs when teams play SEA
It’s not that they just draft defense. It’s that they draft defense WELL and develop their players. Anybody could have had Kawaan Short or Josh Norman, but the Panthers saw something in them that no else did and developed them into elite players.
What this guy said. ⬆
They brought in guys in FA and got production from them too.
Whenever you’re successful it looks good.
It’s really hitting me that our franchise is a Lions/Browns level joke. I don’t like it.
no, plently of teams not making playoffs
Nope
Compilation of all Eagles drops this year (does seem to include some which were inaccurate passes, plus some which were defended):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvnvyIdos4w
drops video longer than highlight video?
that’s when you know you don’t want to watch it.
little depressing to watch
LOL smh….
certainly puts the season in perspective
the most russell wilson play ever
Threads over at finheaven:
New Head Coach: A Disaster in the Making
Gase = Philbin 2.0
It’s hilarious to me how the perspective of fans from one team can be the exact opposite of those of another.
Fins fans are like most of philly media St the moment… Whoever they hire will be wrong, because of the people making the hire
RW is awesome.
Lol remember when Darrell Bevell was a hot head coaching candidate? Don’t hear his name much these days…. Did the Horrible end to last years SUPERBOWL cost him his head coaching opportunities? You don’t hear much about Todd Haley either these days
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If we Hire DP, Who are some of the quality assistant coaches from Suttons KC defensive coaching staff that DP could hire as our Defensive Coordinator?
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Besides Shurmurs relationship to Bradford, I would think that we would want a veteran professional with NFL HC experience for a inexperienced guy like DOug P to have as a resource.
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Really hoping we are able to maintain some of our quality assistants…
I don’t think we could ask for more from a special Teams coach than the results coach Fipp provided. Be a real shame To lose him… I will understand if he is able to find a better job promoting him to a higher position, but I’d be pretty pissed to see Fipp coach spmeone elses special Teams this year.
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I assume DUCE Staley wI’ll remain on the staff… Does ne continue to coach RB’s? Or does he want to coach a different position trying to grow as a coach and improve his resume in hopes of climbing the coaching ranks and one day becoming an OC or even a HC?
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Would hate to lose coach Undlin. the CB position is crucial in TODAYS football. I wouldn’t be thrilled to see our boys with their 3rd coach in 3 years… It’s bad enough that the entire secondary was new last year, their coach was new. Secondary needs to start building chemistry, and some continuity would be nice.. Malcolm Jenkins is a respected veteran who hasn’t had a problem speaking up to Chip Kelly about his coaching Critiques.. For jenkins to Rave about coach Undlin so much, I respect that, and hope we are able to retain him.
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Any other position coach who should be retained!?
Most of their position coaches are older, grizzled guys. Their DBs coach, Emmett Thomas, was our DC under Rhodes. Their LBs coach, Gary Gibbs, has seemed to do a good job but he’s been a DC in the pat with NO and IIRC one other team and those Ds struggled.
Besides, unless a coach’s contract is up, KC can block us from hiring anyone. When Reid’s assistants HCs went to other teams when he was here, he typically let him take maybe one guy but didn’t let him raid his staff.
Defensive line coach is 75-year-old Tommy Brasher, who coached in Philly under Reid… *and* under Marion Campbell.
Can someone explain to me how Bridgewater is a stud? I see Chad Pennington out there for the Vikings right now.
yeah — playing way too conservative.
I don’t know if it’s the coaching or not but he has not been as good as people make him out to be.
well if you’re an oc and you’re chosing between stefon diggs and ap, who are you going to chose?
Seeing how AP got shut down today, I would have went with Diggs/McKinnon.
People always over-hype young mobile QBs.
Yea you cant beat SEA by playing scared
By not completely sucking he has earned some kind of weird over rating from most people. Personally I don’t see anything special.
28 TDs in two years says it all.
That’s it? Geez
everyone wants a run game, defense, etc. this is what it looks like. Teddy doesn’t do much be he also doesn’t lose games. the fact that he doesn’t pass the ball 40 times a game doesn’t mean he’s not a good qb
Make or break now for Teddy B.
catcheable throw, no?
Yeah but defender was also swatting hands at just the right moment too.
Teddy had the whole middle of the field to place that ball too
Just a good defensive play
Good coverage by Lane. Diggs had a chance though.
RW should have like 4 picks already. Looks like his annual turd in playoffs game.
Seahawks are the trolls of the NFL
Eff the Seahawks and go Skins!
Go skins?. How dare you
:3
After watching th quarterbacking so far this post season and watching Bradford all season. I have come to the conclusion that we HAVE to at least franchise him. I would take Sammy over almost any other quarterback we have seen so far.
He’s a good QB man. Just needs to stay healthy…and have a few years of continuity.
Yeah I’m just reminding everyone how we could have a good thing going for us with Sammy sleeves
And he has a great nickname.
Why don’t they have teddy scramble at all?
Hang on to the ball!!!
Should be about thirty seconds for Seattle
Can Wilson work his magic or are we going to go see Bridgewater get destroyed by the Panthers/Cardinals?
There was an option C.
Wow
WOW
like i said the seahawks are the trolls of the NFL
WTF
Lucky af
Seahawks are one lucky ass team. They must be doing animal sacrifices in the dark of the night.
Dynasties are formed that way, ask Tom Brady.
All it takes is some rum for Jobu, not sure why the Eagles haven’t figured this out yet…
I’m pissed and I’m not even Vikings fan, imagine them rn
They’re not as mad as Bengal fans though
A freaking hate the Seahawks and the Steelers and they both win on some lucky BS
sadly losing like this seems all to familiar.
It was a freaking 8 inch FG!
wtf? they missed a chippy.
Hope the Panthers Smash them,
No home team won yet, I’m thinking the skins might just on the odds 4 home teams go down.
Go Pack.
Go Skins
Boo
Let’s go Skins!!!
Of all the luck, the freaking skins get a dysfunctional packers team when they stumble their way into the playoffs
Commentators fell asleep or what
dumfounded by how good skins look
Yep yep yep!!!
Odds that if they win this game DJax trolls Chip Kelly? I’m saying they’re pretty good.
1:1, remember how much satisfaction people got talking about the fact that djax was sitting at home on a terrible team last year. how much difference a year makes.
Well we were also sitting at home last year so hypocrisy at best
When you have a low round pick from Cornell starting at left tackle, how do you not give him help in the shadow of your own goal line? Mike McCarthy is a dunce.
he’s gotta go
If I were a Packers fan I’d certainly agree. It’s clear at this point that they succeed despite him and not because of him.
It’s actually better without buck and aikman
I assume the audio is out for everyone else too?
Can people hear commentary or is it just me that it’s out?
i have it…unfortunately
So I’m the only one here rooting for the Skins, come on guys its not the Cowboys
Why are you doing such a thing…
I like this team
Not allowed
I’m with you. It’s boring to see the same teams going to the playoffs every year. I don’t want them to win the SB but a good run from them could be fun. Same reasoning for the Vikes sadly. Plus I love Djax
like vikes, not trying ot see the skins do shit
Yeah want DJAX to get hay first playoff win I don’t care if they are in my division I hate the other NFC teams
No way. They’re only in the playoffs because the NFC East was so bad and Dan Snyder is one of the most reprehensible people in all of sports. I want them to get ANNIHILATED (which they will next week if they win this game).
I think the Redskins are quite underrated right now. Good team.
Their Front 7 is legit, like their WR corps.
yup ingrediants really are – OL – pass rusher – possession guy / field stretcher.
They’re not a good team. They’re a mediocre team that’s had the good fortune to play a lot of bad/injury-riddled teams. They haven’t beaten a team with a winning record this season and they got stomped every time they played a good opponent. They’re frauds.
They are a legit good team
I disagree. And I think after Cousins throws 4 picks and they get beaten 38-6 by Arizona next week I’ll be proven right.
Well to be beaten by a conference finalist doesn’t really prove that they are not good. They are maybe not Top 3 but surely in the Top 10 discussion over the year.
Support for division rivals is prohibited. Support for racist named teams is also prohibited.
Double violation.
Only a sith deals in absolutes.
You are correct.
Desean!!!
it’s clear to me that skins have the best ol coach in the league – compare this year to last year and cowboys last year to this year, kurt has time all day to throw the ball, biggest difference in the team.
good observation
I miss Desean I know he is a knuckle head especially how he somehow created a new way to not score there but man is he fun to watch.
washington …
5-1 down the stretch.
7-3 in last 10.
Packers?
4-6 in last 10 … And they weren’t that good
But the Redskins are a fraud
They are?
According to the people below who are blinded by bias
Sorry I didn’t catch your sarcasm, they look good to me. Right now they are the class of the NFC East and are only getting better.
The Packers aren’t good either. But seriously, look at the Redskins’ schedule. It’s complete dog shit. They’re a mediocre team that benefitted from having a last place schedule in an awful division. That’s it.
We can say the exact same thing about the Chiefs concerning the schedule
Well, 4 of those last 5 wins were against the NFC East.
He grabbed him before the ball was there
Walsh would have missed that
Playoff officiating?
Desean apologists…please humor me..
As Nailed It wrote, no one finds ways not to score at the goal line like DJax
Cost his team 4 points. #culture
Culture lol
What happened? Did he drop the ball on the one yard line again?
Looked like he tried to do that track finish celebration as he crossed the goalline and ended up stepping out at the half yard line. Looks like he could have easily dove or stuck the ball out. Ended up having to kick a FG
DeSean is talented but my god is he a knucklehead. If Green Bay wins this game by a field goal that play will loom large.
I don’t mind being alone….go Skins get a TD here
Blasphemy
I’m sorry I just don’t hate them like I do the Giants or Cowboys, its so easy to root for Cousins
Hated the Cowboys starting in 1966, when Leroy Jordan cheap-shotted Eagles RB Timmy Brown.
Hated Washington starting in 1971, after they hired George Allen — who cheated more than any other coach.
Hated the Giants since Bednarik nearly killed Gifford.
Hated the Giants even more after LT and Parcells became a couple.
Then came Joe Gibbs and Jimmy Johnson. And Eli Manning.
Just a half century-plus of not liking any of them.
I usually hate the Skins but there’s something about this team IDK
I agree with you — save for Dan Snyder.
Under Gruden, the team has kept quiet and played winning football.
Plus they’ve been lousy longer than Dallas and NYG
Rodgers looks like he wants to be anywhere but behind that O-line
He’s hearing ghosts.
Lol…so desean doesn’t score and one of his lineman ends up looking like he has a high ankle sprain on the goalline series.
Reed is filthy
Anyone got that video of all the eagles drops?
ewwww
NFL needs to get rid these super-grip gloves. Offenses have enough advantages already
Couldn’t agree more. Talk about something that is performance enhancing..
Don’t defenders wear the same gloves?
Yes.
Or at least give them to eagles receivers.
Jordan Reed being covered by Jake ryan???
YOU LIKE THAT
Oh wait no I don’t like that missed XP
How on earth are you rooting for a division rival?
That’s not catchy.
If the Eagles were playing the Packers today, I think the Birds would win. Maybe more abt GB than the Birds.
But against the Vikings, Seattle, AZ or Carolina … or Cinn, Steelers, KC, Denver?
Not in the same neighborhood at all.
It will be interesting to see what happens with Cousins contract and how that will affect Sam
I think those contracts are going to be tied to the hip.
They shouldn’t. Cousins should get paid like a franchise guy and Sam should be paid like a “lets give this a try” guy.
If Cousins signs first and he signs for lets say $18M a year that will have an impact on Sam negotiation
In that’s sense, I agree
No secret i’m a fairly big opponent of paying Bradford like a franchise QB, and whether or not you like Howie Roseman or not: I feel totally confident that if we sign Bradford to a contract, it’ll at the very least be reasonable for the Eagles.
I still prefer Media Mikes proposal of a 3 year contract with a large amount of guarantees, but ultimately a contract the Eagles can get out of when Bradford shows that while he is a good QB, he is not a great SB winning QB. Worst case scenario, we’ll have to really pay big fucking bucks if Bradford ends up actually being a SB winning QB. I’d be okay with that too.
I think that’s the point. IS Cousins the franchise guy? Remember what Foles did? We are lucky that wasn’t in a contract year. I would imagine the redskins would live to sign him to a “let’s give this a try” contract.
Everyone can look good when they have all day to throw, OL is great at pass blocking. Question wil be if packers can consistently get pressure how does he respond.
Maybe we should have kept FOles and gotten an OL.
nope trading foles was a great move.
Keep Bradford, build OL. Do it…do it.
I don’t get it. We had a top 5 offense with Foles and a bottom 5 offense with Bradford, but it was a great move.
Did you watch Foles’ regression year 2? Did you watch his further regression this year?
If given the beating that Bradford took this year he kept staying in the pocket and back peddle into last week.
GB needs to keep Starks in the game…very valuable as pass catcher out of the backfield and is a better runner than Lacy right now
Need a stop here
Thank god
Whatever respond with a TD
Could you stop openly cheering for the Skins here, I’m sure they’re many redskins forums you can enjoy.
But I hate Redskins fans
And no one on an a eagles blog wants to see a so called “eagles fan” openly and continually root for the redskins.
I mean if others are allowed to root for GB I should be able to root for WAS even if I am an Eagles fan….oh well
oreofestar • 4 days ago
I don’t mind being alone….go Skins get a TD here
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oreofestar ACViking • 4 days ago
I usually hate the Skins but there’s something about this team IDK
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oreofestar • 4 days ago
So I’m the only one here rooting for the Skins, come on guys its not the Cowboys
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Look man like I said I was joking with you but if you want to get your panties in a bunch then fine I really don’t care, just don’t say you werent openly rooting for the division rival Redskins.
I never said I wasn’t rooting for them in fact like 2 comments ago I clearly said I was rooting for them but if I was a fan of every team I had ever rooted for in any one game in my life I’d be a fan of half the league…I think you are smart enough to make a distinction between rooting for a team and being a fan.
That’s why I said from the beginning I was joking with you but you got pretty uptight. Its all good friend its all jokes with my brethren here at IB.
Been on the site for few years love you guys, guess I’m on edge cuz of how much crap I had to take for rooting interests in Sunday… Sorry if I came off overly aggressive :/
No worries friend I can understand that. Also I can understand people giving you crap for rooting for a division rival since I was one of the people doing it lol. Its all in good fun.
Now, I know you all are rooting for the Packers…and I know you all wanted the eagles to tank for 3 spots on the draft order. Wouldn’t the same logic apply today? Shouldn’t you root for the redskins to lose in the superbowl so they can get a lower pick?
OK yes that’s my excuse
no b/c i have to listen to “when’s the last time you guys won a playoff game”
With every win, maybe they are missing out on the next ODB
You mean OBJ? He was 12th pick.
Nah he meant ODB
It was a philosophical statement.
lolskins
imagine if cousins had our oline – how bad he’d be.
Wait…I thought we had an all pro LT?
only in his mind.
What did DJax do?
Looked like he tried to do that track finish celebration as he crossed the goalline and ended up stepping out at the half yard line. Looks like he could have easily dove or stuck the ball out. Ended up having to kick a FG and their guard got hurt on the ensuing goal line posseasion.
Thx
Seriously?? I missed it…. Damn it
All he had to do is switch the ball into his left hand and it would have been a TD.
Is RG3 even dressed for this game? what is his role on the team?
Clipboard carrier
3rd string qb, scout team safety.
does he dress tho? or do the skins just carry two QB’s?
Seems like everytime i have seen him this year he is street clothes standing by the bench
probably just dress 2. Agree rarely see him in a jersey.
Who is the backüp? Colt McCoy? If they have a backüp, then RG3 definitely doesn’t dress
colt
He’s the Joe Webb of the team.
made me think of GJ…..did he get any snaps in the Giants game?
I don’t know.
That reminds me…haven’t heard from shah8 recently.
He kind of likes Bradford because he has an arm. (shah8 is more interested in howitzers than guidance systems).
He shows up sometimes.
Scout team …. Very high paid scout team member
Rodgers is so good. Even with a crappy line and subpar receivers he can control the game.
Hindsight: is it better that we missed the playoffs putting an end to chip era giving Lurie the Balls to go out of Charechter and do something no one thought LURIE was,capable of, and getting a much needed top 15 pick, or would it have been better to beat the skins, win the division, pick in the 20’s, save chips job for at least one more yeàr(one more pffseason of changes) and have a chance at beating a pretty crappy Packers team in round 1?
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Are we better off losing enough to effect change and go in a different direction, or where we better off moving forward if we were watching a flawed Eagles team beat a crappy GB team in the playoffs giving Chip another offseason To build our team (or tear it down, depending on how you view it lol)??
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Winning can cure almost anything,,, could making the playoffs, and even,beating the Packers been enough of a,Deoderant that it would Bring the team closer together and give chip another offseason to get it right and repair some relationships with the players to salvage the chip era? Or were we so flawed, and change was so Neccessary that even winning a playoff game couldn’t have salvaged the chip era?
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Then again. Part of me thinks Chip gave a pissed of LURIE the wrong answer, or a snarky answer that pushed LURIE over the edge to not only keep chip from being able to coach the last game, but even worse, he didn’t even allow chip to address the team. it looks like chip said something to really push LURIE to the point where he didn’t want this man around his team for another second.. If this is the case, had,their relationship deteriorated so much that we may have actually seen LURIE Fire chip even if we won a pathetic division and stumbled into the playoffs? Could chip have infuriated him that much?
Better in the long run to lose even if getting to the second round would’ve been fun
yeah i need a tl:dr on some of these things.
I think you might be right. If we beat the Packers today it would remind me of that Fools Gold a couple years ago when a mediocre SIXER team beat the Bulls in the first round of the playoffs when Derreck Rose was hurt…it was fun while it lasted but did more harm than good becayse it hurt our chances to improve and fooled us into wasting more time on a path that was going no where
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But who knows, maybe Chip pissed LURIE off so much that he would have been fired after the playoffs.. Lol you know Howie barged into Lurie’s office armed with an arsenal with a power point presentation, all types of stats and trends showing why chip NEEDS to be removed Immediately, Quotes and signed Affidavits from the Players, lol HOWIE probably Bugged chips phone and office and started whipping recordings for LURIE and all types of evidence..
,..
Hopefully someone gets fired like Marynowitz and decide to write their Memoirs of the Ugly divorce between Chip and the Eagles and we can find out all the juicy, dysfunctional details
Marynowitz was already fired
I was big Chip supporter but I think it was time to move on
I would have really liked to see Bradford in a playoff game, just for that data point, and the experience for everyone else as well. Of course I was not expecting Kelly to be fired at that point. I do wonder if Kelly might have been fired even if we did squeak into the playoffs and lost. We certainly didn’t deserve to go all that much.
Packers playing playoff defense. Like where momentum is.
Rollins with the pass breakup…one of my favourite players in last years draft
yea perhaps his lack of experience scared some teams away, but he looked good at senior bowl
Slow 40 time at the combine scared away more teams than experience.
Looks like mr rodgers changed his shoes and getting comfortable
Damn that was a pretty throw
Aaron rodgers >>>>
Aaron really takes advantage of the game. When they weren’t moving the ball he manufactured 1st downs and manufactured a td.
Now Kurt has to put the ball in the air and pack ha found ways to get pressure.
The playoffs will be way more enjoyable once the skins are eliminated. go Packers!
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Kind of Disgusting that the Seahawks were just gifted a playpff game,,. Would have been great to see them eliminated from the wild card round. I’m a big Mike Zimmer fan, I admire the youngmVikings defense, feel bad for them to lose a game like that….
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This is setting up to be an quality playoffs…. Andy Reid trying to get revenge on Bellichick. A Nasty KC defense against BRady and a banged up OL?… Hopefully the steelers/Broncos game doesn’t lose its luster, and we get to see a Helathy enough Big Ben and ANTONIO Brown vs PeYTON Manning…
FWIW
https://twitter.com/JohnBolaris/status/686329731168518145
where’s that 5 grand going to?
I’d be interested to see who takes the bet.
Tom COUGHLIN is going to coach the Eagles? That would be so crazy that I can’t even wrap my head around whether I think its a good thing or a terrible,thing… It’s like waking up in a Bizzaro world where Jerry Jones is the owner of the Eagles and I have to explain to my fiancée why scumbag woman beating Greg Hardy is an Eagle…. Just Bizzare. I have no idea how I would feel
Me either.
Would be disgusted
Uh oh Packer’s D struggling
What is the issue there? Is it coaching or the GM?
Injuries. They are being outplayed right now. Redskins moving at will
Yeah injuries hurt them, but Rodgers has been vocal about the coaching and play design as of late.. Mike McCarthy can’t make up his mind if he wants to call plays or not… OL injuries, Defense has issues, “Their one RB looks like he ate the other RB”.. WRs…. If they have WR issues, we must have had WR disasters…. But I bet you their WRs can’t block as well as ours lol Travesty that the best blocking WR Riley Cooper ismt going to the Probowl lol
Hopefully this was the last year we have to see him. I hope the new coach cuts him.
Wasnt this the first year we could get out of his contract without taking a big cap hit? I can’t imagine him being on the team…. We have a lot of draft picks, I was hoping we could trade a 4th or a 5th for a veteran WR..
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If Chip wasn’t our coach last year, we could have traded for Brandon Marshall cheap. But you know there is no room for Marshall in Chips “culture”… Thanks Chip.. As if losing Maclin wasn’t enough, lol we can just replace him with Josh Huff, no big deal…
Hopefully we’ll see more JMatt, Ags, and Huff. There was no need for Cooper on the field when you have 3 other guys that are better with the ball in their hands.
Wind is the MVP in this game
Ugggh, now Fox is playing the Redskins fight song. This. Team. Must. Lose. For all that is good in humanity.
New thread up.
Hah. Please tell me again how Washington is a good team? Sayonara Fraudskins.
nfl 16 coins
you have a good sense of humor.