Sean Payton Tops the List

Posted: January 3rd, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 94 Comments »

Coaching rumors are hot and heavy this time of the year. You have to know who to trust. Paul Domowitch is one of the guys I definitely trust. He won’t always be right, but he’s not the type of writer to just throw rumors out casually. He’s only reporting something he feels really strongly about.

Tonight he reported that Sean Payton is the Eagles top target. There are 2 key issues here. First, Payton is still under contract. The Saints have to decide if they want to move on from him. Second, if they do, they would likely try to trade Payton rather than just firing him.

Payton’s situation in New Orleans appears to be a little more fluid. With two years and $17 million left on his contract, the Saints aren’t going to fire him, even though the team finished 7-9 this season and failed to make the playoffs for the third time in the last four years.

But there are have been indications that both sides might be ready to part ways. As Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer pointed out Sunday, though, the Saints likely would want compensation from the team that hires Payton. The price he mentioned was a second-round pick.

The Eagles currently don’t have a second-round pick in next spring’s draft. They gave that away to the Rams in the Sam Bradford deal.

Go read the whole piece. Domo has some other nuggets, including a bit about John Harbaugh.

Going after Payton makes a ton of sense. He is a proven coach and a proven winner. Things have fallen apart in New Orleans in the last couple of years, mostly on defense. Rob Ryan turned out to be an awful hire. The Saints also made a lot of short terms moves that left the team with expensive veterans and serious cap issues.

Payton coached in Philly during the Ray Rhodes era. He has some idea of the media, the fans and the pressure that comes with the job. That helps. If you aren’t prepared for Philly, it can be a bit overwhelming.

Would Payton want the Eagles job? Hard to say. We’ll get more into that angle when we find out this week (hopefully tomorrow) if he’s staying in New Orleans or will be available.

I hope the Saints do put him on the market and the Eagles do what they can. I’ve always been a big fan of Payton’s and would love to see what he could do with the Eagles offense.


A nugget of interest from the Domo piece.

But in case you didn’t notice, Lurie was purposely vague about Roseman’s exact role in personnel last week.

They made a bigger deal about the elevation of senior personnel advisor Tom Donahoe to senior director of player personnel. But according to a league source, that’s essentially a short-term situation that will change once the Eagles hire a new coach and bring in a younger personnel lieutenant.

Makes total sense. Hire the coach and then go get a personnel guy that he and Howie Roseman can work with.


Chuck Pagano seems like the type of coach that Jeff Lurie will want to talk to.

That is a great video.

Pagano is worth considering as a candidate, but he’s far from a slam dunk. I’ll write up a full post on him in the near future. The quick version goes like this. Guy went 11-5, 11-5 and 8-8 in the last 3 years. That’s a good record. He has had some success in the postseason, but hasn’t been good enough to get by the Patriots. His players love him and he’s got an extensive defensive background. Before becoming coach of the Colts, he ran the Ravens defense and they were 3rd in points and yards allowed.

The flip side is that he had a lot of success in Indy, but was handed a golden ticket in the form of Andrew Luck. That is also the worst division in football. His record is basically . 500 in non-division games. There is a lot of drama and in-fighting in Indy. It doesn’t sound like Pagano is responsible for much of it, but there is some guilt by association. There are also questions about him as a coach. The most famous example was the dreadful fake punt “thing” the Colts tried against the Pats this year. Pagano then didn’t handle the explanation of that very well.

I’m not advocating for him, but I do think he’s worth talking to.


I put together an Around the League piece last night. Just random stuff.


94 Comments on “Sean Payton Tops the List”

  1. 1 Greg Richards said at 10:35 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Domowitch also said he was hearing the same thing as Schefter about Doug Pederson being a leading candidate IF the Eagles can’t land Payton.

  2. 2 sonofdman said at 10:55 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I think the plan with Pederson is that he will coach the first nine games of the season and then Donovan McNabb will take over as head coach and coach the team for the next decade.

  3. 3 P_P_K said at 11:12 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He’ll draft a young qb named Andy Reid and ask him to throw the ball 40 times a game to a collection of mediocre receivers.

  4. 4 sonofdman said at 11:13 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    We already have the mediocre wide receivers!

  5. 5 P_P_K said at 11:14 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Good one. He’ll have to do a better job putting them in position to succeed.

  6. 6 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:53 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    We don’t have James thrash, Toddy Pinkston and Fred Mitchell

    I would take or current group in a heart beat and I’m more lukewarm towards them

  7. 7 Mark F said at 9:21 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Matthews would be just fine if he could channel his inner Jerry Rice and hold on to the flippin’ ball. Too many drops!

  8. 8 Howie Littlefinger said at 3:18 PM on January 4th, 2016:

    True but until he does (If he ever does) he’s more in the Pinkston category than the Jerry Rice category

  9. 9 oreofestar said at 10:46 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    1. Tennessee Titans: 3-13 (.492 strength of schedule)
    2. Cleveland Browns: 3-13 (.531)
    3. San Diego Chargers: 4-12 (.528)
    4. Dallas Cowboys: 4-12 (.533)
    5. Jacksonville Jaguars: 5-11 (.473)
    6. Baltimore Ravens: 5-11 (.508)
    7. San Francisco 49ers: 5-11 (.539)
    8. Miami Dolphins: 6-10 (.469)
    9. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: 6-10 (.484)
    10. New York Giants: 6-10 (.498)
    11. Chicago Bears: 6-10 (.548)
    12. New Orleans Saints: 7-9 (.504)
    13. Philadelphia Eagles: 7-9 (.508)
    14. Oakland Raiders: 7-9 (.512)
    15. St. Louis Rams: 7-9 (.528)
    16. Detroit Lions: 7-9 (.536)
    17. Atlanta Falcons: 8-8 (.478)
    18. Indianapolis Colts: 8-8 (.500)
    19. Buffalo Bills: 8-8 (.508)
    20. New York Jets: 10-6 (.441)

  10. 10 John Galt said at 10:48 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Jets win the 2014 Eagles award, 10 wins and the worst possible draft pick (20). Tough end of season

  11. 11 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:54 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    And a star player broke his leg (Wilkerson)

  12. 12 oreofestar said at 10:50 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Anyone think Allas takes a QB

  13. 13 John Galt said at 10:51 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Nah, too much money tied into Romo, believe they are tied for two more years. Maybe later round or next year, but not at 4.

  14. 14 A_T_G said at 11:00 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Wouldn’t that make it smart to get a solid prospect locked up for 5 years on the cheap? (Not that smart equates to likely…)

  15. 15 John Galt said at 11:04 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Nobody makes a #4 overall draft pick sit for two years nowadays, and that is what they would have to do. If they are going to spend a first rounder, more likely to do it next year

  16. 16 A_T_G said at 11:17 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Anyone who thinks Romo’s backup is going to be sitting the next two years hasn’t been watching Romo.

  17. 17 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:54 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    After their experience this year, it wouldn’t surprise me. But hey, Manziel will be available. Ah hahahahahahaha!!!!!!

  18. 18 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:54 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I think they go pass rusher probably

  19. 19 oreofestar said at 12:56 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    They could go for Ramsey

  20. 20 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:05 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I hope they just go OL so they can say they have best 6 lololol

    wait no never mind we need some beef in the draft but I think we trade back pretty much no matter what

  21. 21 scratcherk said at 10:51 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Ugh saints just barely snuck ahead of us

  22. 22 mksp said at 12:31 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Big loss to ATL week one as it turns out.

  23. 23 scratcherk said at 10:53 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I miss the days of Jerry screwing up draft picks

  24. 24 John Galt said at 10:55 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    That was fun. I wonder if they will look at treadwell. Dez’s foot was pretty bad (funny, Julio basically predicted it would be the whole year) and their receivers were exposed without him. Dez and treadwell would be downright scary

  25. 25 JoeBlow said at 11:03 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I have a suspicion they go with Jalen Ramsey. I agree it would be scary with Dez and Treadwell on either side.

    FWIW and NFC scout said he doesn’t see any receiver being taken in the top-15. I think if any receiver is taken it will be Treadwell

  26. 26 John Galt said at 11:08 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Interesting, hadn’t heard that about no receivers top 15. I think there is only 1, but Treadwell looks like a stud to me. He did have the bad injury, wonder if maybe his 40 isn’t quite back to where it was

  27. 27 JoeBlow said at 11:21 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    just one guy’s opinion really but i have heard it from others too now that i think about it……this class is nothing like the last 2, that is for sure

  28. 28 RobNE said at 10:56 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    If we cut Chip with two years left but then pay compensation for Payton that will just piss me off. I’d rather go with Gase or someone.

  29. 29 Dragon_Eagle said at 10:56 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Why? You paying lunch money to Jeffrey Lurie?

  30. 30 RobNE said at 11:00 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    why? Because I don’t want to give up draft picks. The compensation won’t be cash.

  31. 31 Dragon_Eagle said at 11:02 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Ah. Got it. Agreed.

  32. 32 oreofestar said at 11:01 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He means paying draft picks

  33. 33 sonofdman said at 10:56 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I don’t mind Payton, but I don’t think it is worth giving up draft picks to get him.

  34. 34 RobNE said at 11:00 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Maybe it’s just how we like to feel like victims, but since Chip was hired I felt like so many analysts/ reporters so badly wanted Chip to fail. It seemed like this even carried over to the local reporters. Just way over the top. I’m not sure if the firing was warranted quite yet, and I think this was all unfair but I’m happy to get back to a more traditional coach and stop talking about time of possession and reading all the hit pieces. I am a little fatigued by it all.

  35. 35 myartz04 said at 11:05 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’m with you on that. It was like it was a challenge. “So he’s a genius eh? We’ll see about that..”

  36. 36 RobNE said at 11:29 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    yeah no geniuses this time please.

  37. 37 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:06 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    CHip brought a lot of ish on himself but I agree the media/pundits went above and beyond to crush Chip before he even showed up here. Even some fans never wanted the guy work out here.

  38. 38 ac134spectre said at 11:33 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I had my doubts, but the damn green blood kept me hoping I was wrong. It would be one of those, worth the risk moves.

  39. 39 JoeBlow said at 11:15 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    it’s what i’m most happiest about too. Initially i didn’t like the firing, but if the players have tuned you out there really isn’t much you can do as an owner/GM. Chip’s style is tolerable if the team is winning but can run it’s course real quick when things snowball.

    He’s not part of the NFL fraternity, he didn’t “pay his dues” by coming up through the ranks so a lot of people didn’t want him to succeed, it was painfully obvious watching most talk shows/pre-game shows. I think i started rooting for the guy more just to shut those guys up, but they ended up being proved right as much as i hate to say it. I don’t have a problem with people who opposed his style/philosophy but some of it just became irrational hate. Gus Bradley, Mike Mccoy,Joe Philbin and guys like that don’t get the same vitriol that Chip got and Chip arguably had more success than all 3 of them.

    It’s why i’m sort of happy it looks like the next guy hired will be someone quiet who the old guard will nod in approval of. Not a guy the media will hail as a “genius”, then mock the guy for not living up to their expectations

  40. 40 RobNE said at 11:21 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    then we can just try to quietly right the ship. I want to be a little under the radar.

  41. 41 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:58 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Additionally I LOVE when nobody is talking about us. Thats when our team seems to thrive

    Dreamteam+ This year= no more front running please

  42. 42 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:56 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I ALWAYS feel like they root against Philly, actively.

  43. 43 Greg Richards said at 11:15 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Alex Marvez reporting that in addition to Gase, Teryl Austin and Ben McAdoo are targets.

  44. 44 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:00 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Mcadoo a target…..

    for what? That would probably be the worse choice we’ve seen mentioned imo. Best WR+ Vet QB and still can’t get it done in the nfcleast

  45. 45 JoeBlow said at 11:17 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Shaping up for a great finish in Green Bay

  46. 46 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:17 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Cordarelle Patterson had the game won… and then he lost it

  47. 47 JoeBlow said at 11:19 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    yup….i think Zimmer hates him….guy is in the dog house a lot

  48. 48 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:22 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    All he can do is return kicks. Isnt he a No 1 pick?

  49. 49 JoeBlow said at 11:26 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    first round yes….went late in 1st round i think

  50. 50 RobNE said at 11:28 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Zimmer doesn’t come across as the friendliest of guys.

  51. 51 A_T_G said at 11:19 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    He looked like Josh Huff.

  52. 52 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 11:22 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Dude has fumbled like once… people make it seem like he has a habit like Ertz, Murray or Mathews

  53. 53 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:02 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    to be fair he has a lot less catches than those guys too. I get nervous when I see Huff, bad things happen , usually to us

    Maybe wherever Chip lands he will wanna trade for Huff? Just got to get him to tear an ACL first

  54. 54 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:03 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Remember the kick off last year in the 2nd dallas game

    or overtime he tries to catch he pops the ball in the air? He’s basically our preston parker

  55. 55 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 1:25 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    That Kick off was on Brad Smith… Coach and staff put that on him. That’s the whole reason you have an up man

  56. 56 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:33 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    If u believe that. Personally I don’t and have lost all confidence in that kid. Cooper needs to go first then hopefully Huff. I’m hopeful a new HC can get the best out of him but at this point I doubt it

  57. 57 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 2:19 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Doesn’t really bug me. I think people hate him because he was drafted 2 rounds earlier than he should have been.

    I just want him to succeed here because he cost us a 3rd rounder. I don’t see a reason to cut him this year, yet

  58. 58 RobNE said at 11:17 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    wow Crosby the kicker for GB just caught up to a long kick return guy and actually stripped the ball out and GB recovered. Wow.

  59. 59 Greg Richards said at 11:19 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    That’s got to be the most embarrassing thing ever for the returner. He’ll never live that down.

  60. 60 RobNE said at 11:20 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    and it may cost the game too. That would have been an icing FG for the Vikings.

  61. 61 RobNE said at 11:22 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    haha Rodgers intercepted.

  62. 62 RobNE said at 11:23 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    you know if the search is like last time I would be surprised if they say interview Gase tomorrow and hire him right away. These guys just have been much more methodical in the past. The Chip hire seemed to take forever.

  63. 63 makarov123 said at 11:23 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Rumors of drug abuse aside, I’m not a fan of Sean Payton. It has little to do with HC retreads not doing well, and more what happened with the bounty situation. There are two possibilities:

    1. Payton knew about the bounties to injure opposing players and condoned it or looked the other way.
    2. Payton had no idea what his assistants were doing in meeting rooms with his players.

    Either of those are inexcusable for me. Not what I want in a coach.

    I guess it’s possible that the whole bounty thing never happened. However, I doubt the NFL would have taken the action it did were that the case.


  64. 64 he's_back_scrambling said at 12:25 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Buddy Ryan did the same for years! That’s exactly what this city wants in a coach!!

  65. 65 Cafone said at 5:23 AM on January 4th, 2016:


  66. 66 JoeBlow said at 11:24 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I love some of NBC’s song choices on their way to commercial…..just played Minnesota’s own Prince after the Viking interception.

    They have a knack for choosing a song that applies to a team or game situation

  67. 67 Joe Minx said at 11:39 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    There’s a guy who does all that special. I read about him a couple of years ago.

  68. 68 RobNE said at 11:27 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    who do you guys like in the games next week? In our neighborhood pool against the spread the overall champion will get $300 (b/c no winner the past few weeks). I am 4 games up (overall record) with 11 playoff games (if I am counting right) to play. Should I just pick all the favorites and see if anyone can pick enough underdogs to get me? (not sure why that feels safer to me when it’s against the spread)

    I am 4 up on one person and I think 6 up on 2 people.

  69. 69 scratcherk said at 11:31 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Anyone else notice that little jumping munchkin in the replay to the lions game?. It’s kind of hilarious

  70. 70 Greg Richards said at 11:32 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Adam Schefter

    32s32 seconds ago

    Eagles will interview interim head coach Pat Shurmur on Monday and Bears offensive coordinator Adam Gase on Tuesday, per @mortreport.

    Sounds like we’re getting Gase’s first interview. Doubtful he’d be ready mentally to interview with team tomorrow right after game.

    1 retweet


  71. 71 RC5000 said at 12:37 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Yay! that’s excellent news! I was so depressed.

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 12:55 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    John McMullen @JFMcMullen
    #Eagles are bringing in Adam Gase to interview, per @diannaESPN. As reported at @973espn the timing of Kelly firing was to get first in line

  73. 73 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:08 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Unless the next stop was browns or niners

  74. 74 ac134spectre said at 11:34 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Nick Saban! just kidding…

  75. 75 RobNE said at 11:36 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    I’ll go with Greg Roman.

    I think it’s hard to project coordinators out. Who knows if just because you can get Cutler to play well that means you can run the whole organization.

  76. 76 RobNE said at 11:39 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    folks have been down on Howie getting power back, but look a lot of trouble teams find themselves in are self-inflicted. Like Ruben Amaro, my god. Howie won’t do that. It could be a lot worse. I feel kind of safe. Having someone who knows value and likely won’t make bad contract signings or horrible trades is actually a pretty good place to be.

  77. 77 TXEaglesFan said at 11:50 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    Why even bother with the amaro metaphor, chip kelly was the well documented king of value disregard.

  78. 78 TXEaglesFan said at 11:41 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    One thing Howie is good at is the misinformation game. Possibly be leaked interest in Payton to drive up the potential trade value for the Giants or even Cowboys…?

  79. 79 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:10 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Genius didn’t even think of that.

    I wouldn’t want Payton for free, let alone a draft pick

  80. 80 anon said at 11:58 PM on January 3rd, 2016:

    #49ers interest in Payton is clear but I'm told he will not come cheap – it would cost them a 1st rounder— John Middlekauff (@JohnMiddlekauff) January 4, 2016

  81. 81 oreofestar said at 12:34 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Bruh trading a top 10 pick for…. Nah they aren’t that dumb

  82. 82 ChoTime said at 12:12 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Wow, the Pack went from looking like champs to chumps.

  83. 83 John Galt said at 12:19 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I think they will handle the skins easily though, so not too bad a loss

  84. 84 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 12:39 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I don’t. Washington at home wont be a push over

  85. 85 oreofestar said at 12:44 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Not sure they win that

  86. 86 BobSmith77 said at 1:44 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    it is all Olivia Munn’s fault.

  87. 87 Howie Littlefinger said at 12:51 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    RE Payton:

    Tell us more about this coach who’s got a winning record but his defense and DC let the team down……..

    feels eerily similar…. Does he at least prioritize Christmas parties?

  88. 88 RC5000 said at 12:58 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Hop aboard the Gase bus! Ok it doesn’t have to rhyme.

    Philly Sports Talk ‏@_Philly_Talk 26m26 minutes ago

    Philly Sports Talk Retweeted John Middlekauff

    Per @JohnMiddlekauff, If Adam Gase is hired as a head coach, Jim Bob Cooter could be his offensive coordinator.

  89. 89 Howie Littlefinger said at 1:05 AM on January 4th, 2016:


    its like bad Eli but better?

  90. 90 BobSmith77 said at 1:43 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Is Billy Bob going to be the DC?

  91. 91 anon said at 1:12 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    More coach notes: Browns spoke to Adam Gase tonight, they will interview Teryl Austin on Tues; Eagles interview Shurmur & Gase next 2 days.— Chris Mortensen (@mortreport) January 4, 2016

  92. 92 RC5000 said at 1:25 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Gase is married to daughter of former Eagles coach Joe Vitt who is of course Sean Payton’s boy, what a tangled web …

  93. 93 BobSmith77 said at 2:20 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    Has any Eagles’ impending FA had this team more over the barrel than Bradford? I think you have to go all the way back to Reggie White after the ’92 season.

    It was a foregone conclusion that Braman wasn’t going to pay White at that time. White wound up surprising people and taking at the time record 4 yr/$17M deal from GB instead of signing with the Skins or 49ers.

    It was the beginning of the end of Gang Green. Legendary Mike Flores replaced White, Evans blow out his knee never to recover, and Hopkins/Waters both had injury-plagued and largely ineffective years as their last year as starters. The ’93 defense still had several stand out starters but it notably declined.

  94. 94 Cafone said at 5:18 AM on January 4th, 2016:

    I don’t even think they make a decision on Bradford until they hire a new coach. What comes first, the QB or the coach? Maybe Sean Payton comes in and says “Bradford blows, let’s draft someone”