Schwartz in Town

Posted: January 18th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 875 Comments »

Jim Schwartz is the man I want to be the Eagles new defensive coordinator. For a couple of days it seemed like that might be a long shot, but things have changed and he is now in Philly to interview for the position. That’s great news.

Doug Pederson wanted Steve Spagnuolo for the job. He is still under contract to the Giants and they denied the Eagles permission to talk to him. My reaction: thank you Giants.

Spags learned under Jim Johnson. He then ran the Giants defense when they won a Super Bowl. That’s the good stuff. Go read Jimmy Bama’s piece for the bad stuff (pretty much everything since 2008). When Spags had a dominant D-line, he ran a good defense. In every other instance, the results were not good. There are ways to argue for Spags, but they involve putting a positive slant on multiple situations.

Back to Schwartz. This isn’t a done deal. There are some reports that make it seem like a done deal.

No offense to Jamie Apody, but it would help if this was a report coming from someone with a strong track record of breaking stories like Les Bowen, Jeff McLane or Reuben Frank. I certainly hope Jamie is right.

Schwartz didn’t work for a team in 2015. He was hoping to get a head coaching job this year or to possibly become the DC of the Titans again. His family lives in Nashville and he’d love to get back there. Tennessee has a DC under contract in Ray Horton, but he is now being allowed to talk to the Browns about a job. He is reportedly upset because the Titans didn’t give him the HC job. If they let him leave, you wonder if Schwartz will try one last time to talk to the Titans.

The fact Schwartz is in Philly to interview tells you he is open to taking the job and wants to find out more about the situation. Jeff Lurie will pay big money to assistants so that side of things could help sway Schwartz. He would also likely have autonomy over the defense. Doug Pederson would run the offense and oversee the team, but Schwartz would be left alone to do things his way. Pederson saw Andy Reid treat Jim Johnson that way and it worked great for everyone.

Some people are worried about the Wide-9. Don’t worry about that. I’ll write plenty about it if/when Schwartz officially gets the job. The key thing you need to realize is that Schwartz is a veteran DC who has run Top 5 units for multiple teams.

Doug Farrar of SI wrote a piece on the Bills defense from December of 2014. They had just dominated Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. And that defense finished 11th in the league against the run so it isn’t like they were weak there. Overally they finished 4th in yards and points. Think how fun it would be for the Eagles to have a defense that could finish Top 10 in points and/or yards.

Schwartz would not magically come to Philly and make the defense great. He would still need more talent. He would have a good DL to work with, which is the key to success with the 4-3.

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Doug Pederson was officially hired today. There will be a press conference on Tuesday at 2pm.

This PE.com story has a cool video in it that breaks down Pederson’s career as a player and coach. I have to admit enjoying some of those old Eagles highlights. If they ever do a video like this for Tim Hauck, I might have to seek medical attention. That might be too much fun.

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875 Comments on “Schwartz in Town”

  1. 1 scratcherk said at 10:09 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Get er done Jeffrey

  2. 2 Greg Richards said at 10:18 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Don’t let him leave. As in, physically lock him in Howie’s basement and deny him food and water until he signs on the dotted line.

  3. 3 laeagle said at 10:29 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Do it Misery style…

  4. 4 ChoTime said at 11:03 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Or even, “It puts the lotion in the bucket”.

  5. 5 RC5000 said at 11:12 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Get Fletcher and Bennie and Vinny and Connor and Jordan and Malcolm in there…

  6. 6 Forthebirds said at 10:24 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Can he lie on Howie’s bed of nails?

  7. 7 Flyin said at 10:19 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    I’m going to repost this because it is about all of you…

    I feel pretty good about all the info on the hiring on coaching front.
    Nothing negative like a lot of talk I have read in the last couple weeks
    on other sites. I know everyone won’t be happy with everything. This
    is still the only place online that has intelligent posters offering and
    discussing their disagreements in a practical manner. I know there are
    strong feelings one way or another, however, igglesblitz, time and time
    again, regains the highest respect in my book by all the posters who
    comment here.

  8. 8 Mitchell said at 11:13 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    I was also reading quite a bit of negativity about Pederson. Specifically, “He can’t do this. He can’t do that.” Sometimes I get so damn sick of people always preaching about what others CAN’T do. The case with Pederson is more of “We don’t know what he CAN do,” not what he can’t. The real fact is, we just don’t know but I remain optimistic.

  9. 9 Fufina said at 11:28 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    I still stand by the fact that he has been in the building and around the team for a long time. Lurie and Howie have plenty of experience with him and if they believe that he has the skills needed to be a head coach then he probably has those skills.

  10. 10 xeynon said at 12:17 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hear ya’. Bleeding Green Nation in particular used to be a place for intelligent Eagles talk but of late has descended to a NJ.com/WIP level of negativity and hot takeism.

    Pederson wasn’t on anybody else’s radar, but neither was Andy Reid in 1999, and he turned out to be a fantastic hire. Chris Palmer (the Adam Gase/Hue Jackson of that coaching class) went 5-27 in his first two seasons, was fired, and never got another HC gig. Lurie’s track record in hiring coaches is very good and has earned him the benefit of the doubt IMO.

  11. 11 Mitchell said at 12:19 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    That is who I was thinking of when typing. I went to listen to one of the podcasts and had to turn it off.

  12. 12 BobSmith77 said at 2:10 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Been a weak site generally since Brandon Lee Gowton took over.

  13. 13 ChoTime said at 11:05 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I really am an the kick that Rhodes’ defensive drafts made Andy’s ultra-successful period possible. He hit on a lot of studs!

  14. 14 anon said at 9:42 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    thing about andy was (a) got a qb early, (b) andy was generally good at developing qbs and (c) had jj coaching the defense.

    after jj left things got worse and they were over once mcnabb’s career was over.

    not sure if pederson is going to have any of those 3 things working for him.

  15. 15 Forthebirds said at 10:31 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I feel the same way. Posters on this site disagree, but there are no haters here. Must of us agree that Howie should go and the front office has been dysfunctional. But the hate posts against Roseman and Lurie turn my stomach. So do the comments about the stupidity of the beat writers.why read someone if you think he is stupid. This is the site for intelligent discussion, not diatribe.

  16. 16 ChoTime said at 11:04 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I agree. And it is a shame, because some of the other sites have intelligent posters, but they are locked into ridiculous standing battles and extreme positions. Almost like… well, it is the political season, after all.

  17. 17 GaEagle1023 - Tom said at 10:21 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Land Schwartz and I’m a happy man!

  18. 18 Nick C said at 10:24 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Nothing official on Schwartz despite reports. Horrible reporting. I said earlier I thought Ten would make a push. You don’t let your DC interview with another team for the same job.

  19. 19 RC5000 said at 11:10 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Technically they said it was expected not official lol..Channel 6 and Eckel and some guy no one ever heard of.

  20. 20 FairOaks said at 1:01 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    LeBeau is their real DC. If he’s staying, they are staying with a 3-4 and thus no Schwartz.

  21. 21 ChoTime said at 11:06 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    They’re just giving us what we want and getting their precious clicks.

  22. 22 eagleyankfan said at 10:26 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Has interest or just using the eagles…

  23. 23 Flyin said at 10:29 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    As I re-read Tommy’s post, my confidence of this happening has lessened… to a maybe we get him.

  24. 24 eagleyankfan said at 10:35 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    As always we have no idea… Lol

  25. 25 Flyin said at 10:40 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Frank Gore to replace Staley as RB coach, as Staley moves into assistant Head Coach?

  26. 26 daveH said at 10:51 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    May the Schwartz be with us.
    ..
    Others have already said this and i am happy to keep it in play

  27. 27 RC5000 said at 11:16 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    In 1937, Eagles had a QB named Glenn Frey.
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FreyGl20.htm

  28. 28 Fufina said at 11:26 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    get some Necromancers to work and bring him back to join our all ex-QB all stars coaching super force that seeks to battle the evil trifecta of Cowgirls, Giants and Racists.

  29. 29 Dude said at 1:21 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Seriously, half of your posts are just pure garbage…

    Racists? Really?

  30. 30 stephenstempo said at 4:53 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    well i mean if there were a native american outside my house walking his dog and they stopped and his dog was peeing on my lawn and I yelled out the window. “hey you stupid redskin get your dog off my lawn.” how exactly would he take that comment?

  31. 31 Media Mike said at 4:59 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    That team name needs to go.

  32. 32 Ray888 said at 7:32 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Probably no differently than if you called him a “stupid Native American”.

  33. 33 ChoTime said at 11:09 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    When yelling at Native Americans (actually, “Indian” is just as correct to some of them; “Native American” can actually be offensive in some cases because their claim to the land predates America), it is best to soften the “redskin” slur with “noble”.
    Usage: “Hey, ya noble redskin, get offa my lawn!”

  34. 34 Ray888 said at 12:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No! The whole point was not to use ad hominem attacks at ALL. Then you don’t need to worry about which are offensive or not.

  35. 35 Buge Halls said at 10:42 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    You obviously don’t know the history behind the term. Until you do, stop commenting about it.

  36. 36 Dude said at 1:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m sure he would take offense. But let me ask you, how many of Washington’s players have ever done that? I’d be willing to wager that in the entire history of that franchise, not one player has ever said, “Hey you stupid redskin, get your dog off my lawn,” or anything close to that. In fact, I’d be more inclined to call my beloved Eagles racists since, you know, Riley Cooper. But that would be foolish since the vast majority of the organization is probably not racist, as can be said for the Redskins.

  37. 37 GENETiC-FREAK said at 11:25 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Swartz as DC im liking Douggies Style

  38. 38 RC5000 said at 11:41 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    You like what style?

  39. 39 the DONALD said at 10:43 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    tweed jacket style

  40. 40 Sean Stott said at 11:35 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    My guys are saying Schwartz is a done deal

  41. 41 John Galt said at 11:42 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    Not sure who your guys are, but I hope they’re right…

  42. 42 Fufina said at 11:57 PM on January 18th, 2016:

    I like your guys.

  43. 43 Media Mike said at 5:00 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jamie Apoty isn’t exactly the most feminine looking lady out there, but calling her “my guy” is a bit mean.

  44. 44 eagleyankfan said at 7:39 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    are your guys the same loop of people that said the Gase deal is done if the money is right?

  45. 45 ChoTime said at 11:10 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Do we know the money was right?

  46. 46 xeynon said at 12:13 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz has a strong track record, and his system fits our personnel well. The Titans always did well with rangy linebackers so Alonso, Hicks, and Kendricks could thrive, and a guy like Fletcher Cox could develop into a full-fledged superstar playing the Albert Haynesworth role in his front alignments. Would be a great hire IMO.

  47. 47 Media Mike said at 5:11 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    And in the times you’re actually going to run wide 9; you have a DC who knows how to instruct all of the position groups on how to play rather than a D-line coach gone rogue.

  48. 48 Fufina said at 6:55 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Wide 9 is fine on 3rd and long against an immobile QB. It sucks as a 1st down play against any team that can actually run the ball. Which then makes the Safeties have to cheat against the run every play, leaving the secondary naked without protection if they use play action and manage to delay the rush for a any period of time.

  49. 49 Anders said at 7:03 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    One DE in a wide 9 stance is fine on 1st down, the problem is both DEs in wide 9 and both DTs in 3 tech

  50. 50 BobSmith77 said at 2:08 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    To Pederson:

    http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrea0xMhPL1qf1sfco1_r1_500.gif

  51. 51 ChoTime said at 11:10 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Man, I better save that for if he gets hired.

  52. 52 Media Mike said at 5:10 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Is Twitter down for anybody else? My feed is stuck on a 6 hour old post by Kempski about signing Chase Daniel for 4 mil / year.

  53. 53 Anders said at 5:12 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yea Twitter is down, it couldnt handle Eagles potential signing Schwartz

  54. 54 Media Mike said at 5:17 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Amateur hour.

  55. 55 ChoTime said at 11:11 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    He broke the internet.

  56. 56 ChoTime said at 11:11 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Omigod, a 6 hour Twitter fast. I can’t imagine how much monkey mind I would get!

  57. 57 Eagles News: Tagging and trading Sam Bradford could make sense - said at 6:24 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    […] Schwartz in Town – Iggles BlitzSome people are worried about the Wide-9. Don’t worry about that. I’ll write plenty about it if/when Schwartz officially gets the job. The key thing you need to realize is that Schwartz is a veteran DC who has run Top 5 units for multiple teams. Doug Farrar of SI wrote a piece on the Bills defense from December of 2014. They had just dominated Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. And that defense finished 11th in the league against the run so it isn’t like they were weak there. Overally they finished 4th in yards and points. Think how fun it would be for the Eagles to have a defense that could finish Top 10 in points and/or yards. […]

  58. 58 Bleeding Green Nation :: Eagles News: Tagging and trading Sam Bradford could make sense - Rainy Monster said at 7:41 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    […] Schwartz in Town – Iggles BlitzSome people are worried about the Wide-9. Don’t worry about that. I’ll write plenty about it if/when Schwartz officially gets the job. The key thing you need to realize is that Schwartz is a veteran DC who has run Top 5 units for multiple teams. Doug Farrar of SI wrote a piece on the Bills defense from December of 2014. They had just dominated Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers. And that defense finished 11th in the league against the run so it isn’t like they were weak there. Overally they finished 4th in yards and points. Think how fun it would be for the Eagles to have a defense that could finish Top 10 in points and/or yards. […]

  59. 59 Dan said at 7:48 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    As a side question, if he is hired and we go back to 4-3 how will the current personnel we have fit for 4-3. Figuring Cox and Logan would be DL, Graham and if we bring Curry would be DE, Barwin SAM? I would guess we need to bring in a thumper for MIKE? Would Kendricks/Alonso/Hicks battle for WILL? What are other thoughts on it?

  60. 60 Fufina said at 7:56 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hicks and Demeco (if he is here) would make great MIKEs.
    Kendricks is a perfect WILL.
    Alonso has the size to play SAM.

    Think Barwin is either traded or will play DE on pass rushing downs as a specialist rusher, with maybe Curry moving in to DT. Same with Smith.

    If we move to a 4-3 we will need more depth, since most of our DLine depth is not suited to being 1 gap attacking types. Hart and Allen might be able to do a job in relief as run stuffers in the short term.

  61. 61 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:12 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    The past 3 years, Barwin has lined up as a 4-3 DE like 300 Times..
    ..
    This notion that BARWIN can’t play DE in a 4-3 or might move to SAM is ridiculous
    ..
    He is a DE(edge rusher) in our Defense, period..

    Not the issue people are making this out to be

  62. 62 Fufina said at 8:16 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    He can play DE for sure… but i feel that wastes his best ability which is being able to rush, set the edge and cover all well which makes him hard to account for.

    As a DE he is just a good speed rusher… which is not a bad thing, but is probably not the best usage of him.

  63. 63 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:21 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    He rushed the passer significantly more than he ever dropped into coverage for us, although he does have that ability in his tool belt, and a good DC won’t waste that ability regardless of what base defense we run.
    ..
    BARWIN is fine, he fits no matter what we do

  64. 64 Fufina said at 8:24 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I just think that at his $6.7mil salary you could get a 3rd round pick from a 3-4 team that would naturally use his full range of skills more easily, which is probably more useful to the team long term.

    He is obviously not getting cut, and if he stays he will be a DE for us. Schwartz tends to not drop his guys into coverage.. he likes to drop 7 into coverage and let his DL go to work most of the time, bring 1 or 2 extra as needed. Don’t see many exotic corner blitzes from him.

  65. 65 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:39 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah, we don’t have enough holes/glaring needs, let’s go actively create more needs, at one of the premier positions at that.. He is only our best, or second best edge rusher, a premiere position where we don’t have much talent backing them up waiting in the wings,.. What good is another 3rd round pick if you are creating another hole and getting rid of our best players?
    ..
    Wanna axe Barwins contract? The responsible way to do it is draft a DE that proves that he can replace BARWIN, and trade/cut BARWIN next year
    ..
    We have enough glaring needs without creating more, especially at significant premier positipns… For what Edge rushers cost, Barwins price tag is a bargain…… Id prefer to draft playërs at positions that have playërs we want to cut or transition away from… If you wanna get rid of JP next year, better draft his replacement this year. Wanna get rid of BARWIN, draft his replacement this year,… But just drafting playërs isn’t enough, we have to HIT on those picks and draft kids that will earn our trust and allow us to cut the veteran in front of them after next season.

    People wanna lose Bradford, Lose BARWIN, lose Jason Peters, we have enough Drastic needs if we keep those players, the last thing we need is to
    Create MORE needs, especially at the premier positions QB, LT, DE…
    ..
    if Howie is smart, he will make sure he drafts future replacements a year before he plans on getting rid of key veterans..and also get back to extending our young players a year earlier so we can save a few dollars… Retain our own FA, stop signing other teams trash
    ..
    Unfortunately a decent game against the Giants week 17, ISNT enough to trust MS2 emough to lose BARWIN THIS offseason…. But who the hell knows what HOWIE has in mimd

  66. 66 A Roy said at 12:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The thing is, it makes sense to use Barwin as a tweener. Having him set up as DE and occasionally drop into coverage on a TE allows for an overload from somewhere else.

  67. 67 bill said at 1:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah, really hoping that whoever is DC, they utilize hybrid fronts more often, because that fits the talent best, IMO.

  68. 68 Anders said at 9:08 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    You do not need a thumper as mike any more, Hicks is the perfect modern day mike

  69. 69 D3FB said at 12:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Graham, Logan, Cox, Curry would be DL. I think you can make an argument that Hicks has greatest value at Will, but Kendricks needs to play the WILL, and Hicks can play Mike. Kiko projects as a SAM (which comes off for nickel).

    Barwin probably more of a DE, could also play SAM
    MSII will be DE.
    Allen fits nicely as backup 1 tech.

    Def need another 3 tech. Full compliment of backup LBs (Goode, Acho, Skinner are ok but w/ injury history would like better fallbacks) Ok at DE but if Barwin is moved it becomes pretty urgent.

    Thurmond likely not retained.

  70. 70 RobNE said at 8:35 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    you guys might like this, interesting read on the process of interviewing HC candidates:

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/01/19/nfl-head-coach-interviews-the-mmqb-jenny-vrentas

  71. 71 Dave said at 8:46 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s a really good article.

  72. 72 scratcherk said at 9:12 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    makes sense. no mention of WRs or LBs.

  73. 73 scratcherk said at 9:35 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I do understand you can’t get blue chip guys in every position. If I had to pick positions, I would do the same as Andy. At the same time, I dont think you need to pick from the garbage heap for ALL your LBs and WRs.

  74. 74 RobNE said at 11:48 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I thought Chip was all over this. Allocating funds the right way. Then he signed Murray and I didn’t know what to think. Seemed like such a misallocation of resources.

  75. 75 BobSmith77 said at 10:08 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Makes a lot of sense given where Reid was criticized for not placing much value (LBs, WRs).

    Already had a franchise-caliber LT in Thomas though, 1 of the pass-rushers in Douglas, 2 CBs in Taylor/Vincent, and a high draft choice to get a franchise-caliber QB.

    Quickly got the other pieces too – drafted Simon in ’00 (6th overall) and signed Runyan after the ’99 season.

    McNabb was the key but a lot of quality pieces were already in place here.

    Pederson by contrast I’d argue only has 2 of those – Cox and L. Johnson neither of who are locked up long-term right now. Maybe you can argue a few others fit the bill including Bradford, Maxwell, or Graham/Curry at DE but to me it tells you just how less of a talented roster Pederson is inheriting.

  76. 76 xmbk said at 10:59 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Less talented than the one Reid inherited? Maybe at those positions, but overall this team is more solid than the ’99 team.

  77. 77 Dave said at 8:38 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/689433767031648256

    This is probably one of the more reliable Tweets on the subject.

  78. 78 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:42 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lock him inside Novacare and DONT allow him to leave until he signs the contract… Problem Solved, so what if we have to face a kidnapping charge… Well worth it

  79. 79 Patrick said at 9:57 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Fuck it, kidnap his grandma or slip him a Cosby just to make sure he signs.

  80. 80 Corry said at 8:48 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    When we switch to a 4-3, I think we shift our depth needs from DE to DT. At DE we would potentially have Graham, Barwin, MSII, and Curry. If it’s Schwartz’s attacking style, Barwin and MSII should be fine.

    The problem then shifts to DT where we only have Cox as a true 3 technique (really he can play anywhere on the line). Our depth behind him are all suited to 2 gapping.

  81. 81 Dave said at 8:55 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Simple, we trade with the 49ers.

  82. 82 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:58 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Bennie Logan is a good player, even in a 4-3.,, he is more agile, mobile than Hollis Tank Thomas ever was who was a solid contributor to our 4-3 Defense.. If Hollis can play in a 4-3, no reason why Logan can’t

  83. 83 Corry said at 9:05 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Right, but he’s going to start next to Cox. I failed to mention him in the original post. We’re still left with Allen, Bair, and Hart (Thornton is an UFA). Those guys are all two-gap/nose tackle type players.

  84. 84 Anders said at 9:07 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Allen will backup Logan

  85. 85 Corry said at 9:11 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Right. We just don’t have a back up 3 technique to spell Cox in a base defense. We can rotate Curry inside on obvious passing downs, but Cox will need to come off the field periodically.

  86. 86 Fufina said at 9:13 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Good thing that this draft is super deep at DT. Can get a good one in the 3rd.

  87. 87 Corry said at 9:58 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    In the 3rd round, I’m grabbing an offensive lineman. Actually I’m just drafting all offensive lineman. ( I kid, I kid).

  88. 88 Mac said at 9:28 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Graham can also play DT. Really the depth we have so far is pretty amaze because they can all play up and down the line.

    Would be nice to have another good Dline at any position though.

  89. 89 Corry said at 10:02 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    He can, but he’s another one I don’t want as a primary backup for the base d. Specific pass rushing packages fine, but not for the base D.

  90. 90 Anders said at 1:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Most teams do not have backup 3T worth anything. In general the backups are backups for a reason.

  91. 91 anon said at 10:18 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    For ACV: didnt take long for him to spit on Lovie’s grave:

    New Bucs coach Dirk Koetter said he will be a more aggressive play caller in 2016.

    Koetter said ex-coach Lovie Smith did not specifically tell him to play it conservatively, but he was not as aggressive as he wanted to be while serving as the offensive coordinator. “When you’re the head coach and you’re the play caller, you have a license to be a little bit more aggressive,” Koetter said. “You don’t have to worry about the head coach second guessing you; you are the head coach. So you make your game plan and you stick to your game plan.” Despite having a big-armed quarterback and several deep threats, the Bucs were middle of the pack in deep shot attempts according to Pro Football Focus. That could change next season.

  92. 92 RobNE said at 10:43 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think the new QB showed progress and some talent, why exactly was Lovie fired? They beat the hell out of us. And that’s hard to do. Right? Right?

  93. 93 ChoTime said at 11:13 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Dumb firing, really.

  94. 94 anon said at 11:20 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    lovie probably wanted to run ball control kotter obviously expressed that he wanted to get more out of winston.

  95. 95 Insomniac said at 10:50 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    When you name possession WRs as deep threats then you know you’re in a dysfunctional organization.

  96. 96 CrackSammich said at 10:52 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t understand the point of letting defensive coordinators know this early what you plan to do. Good luck down there, Koetter.

  97. 97 ACViking said at 11:37 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Anon:

    Great find.

    Dirk Koetter better succeed, and succeed B-I-G, as the Bucs HC — ’cause the next coordinator job he’ll get will be high school.

    What a disloyal jerk.

  98. 98 D3FB said at 11:45 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Still waiting for a coach to announce they plan on being super passive in their introductory PC.

    “So uh you know, lots of draws on 3rd and long”

  99. 99 RobNE said at 11:47 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    we’re going to have the WRs run lots of 5 yard ins on 3rd and 8.

    or how about: we’re going to scale back the playbook, and I mean way, way back, because I don’t trust the players to run anything.

    too soon?

  100. 100 ACViking said at 11:49 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Against the Eagles last season, those 3rd-and-long draws were not bad calls.
    ________________

    Coach —

    My only problem with Koetter was that he put himself a bit too publicly in the middle of a Shakespearean drama.

  101. 101 D3FB said at 12:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Must be friends with Dana Holgerson

  102. 102 ChoTime said at 11:50 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    “We have a QB very good at throwing short of the sticks, so we’re going to build an offense around failing to get 1st downs.”

  103. 103 ChoTime said at 11:52 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah, you have a rookie who threw too many interceptions in college and your biggest mistake was not slinging it.

  104. 104 BobSmith77 said at 10:18 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    What is a realistic expectation for Pederson’s first year? Really curious to see if reporters will ask Pederson and/or Lurie this question and how they each might respond.

    I don’t expect them to give an exact number of wins but I am interested to see where both men view the team right now.

    The only thing I except Lurie to say is not to use the ‘r’ word – rebuilding. I think that is a mistake given where this roster and overall talent level is at right now including the uncertainty surrounding Bradford.

  105. 105 nicolajNN said at 10:36 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t follow other teams closely enough to know this, but how often do owners, coaches or GMs in the NFL say their team is rebuilding? It doesn’t seem like the right message to send fans or the players on the team.

  106. 106 BobSmith77 said at 10:47 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    It happens when it is obvious from a W-L standpoint but I agree that it isn’t something that a team like the Eagles wouldn’t use.

    It has been hard to defer from Lurie where he views this team right now. I’m really curious to see if gives any more clues today on where he thinks this team is at and what they are capable of the short-term (next year or two).

  107. 107 RobNE said at 10:42 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    does it really matter, isn’t this a 3 year plan or so? I don’t want to get caught on a number of wins. I want progress. I want the OL to communicate better with each late in the season compared to the beginning. Stuff like that.

  108. 108 BobSmith77 said at 10:48 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    They haven’t said anything really. Even saying there was a 3-year plan or time frame would be a pretty big deal.

  109. 109 peteike said at 11:22 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    agree but someone will ask Im sure. Fair enough question I guess, do they improve on 7 wins or expect to take a step back before going forward. Better question for us fans really, they would never answer that with a number of course. Depends on QB big time, only guy that could improve on it is SB, otherwise I think they would know they are rebuilding to a degree. You can hope a rookie lights it up if you draft one high but even then there would be some acclimation per expectations.

  110. 110 ChoTime said at 11:20 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I am cool as long as I see some good drafting and they discard the free agent-crack addiction. Build from the lines out. I would prefer to dump Bradford; if they can get a draft pick out of it, so much the better. I don’t think he’s good enough and I want a better one, preferably one with legs thicker than mine. I want to see fundamental football and adaptability so that resources are maximized. I want solid, defensible decisions that don’t hamstring the team and make us incrementally better. There should be a personality to the team and a dominant strength in some area should be built.

  111. 111 D3FB said at 11:35 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Between 4 and 8 wins.

  112. 112 Fufina said at 11:41 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Depends what they do at QB frankly. If they bring back Bradford this should be a 10-6 type roster with the NFC east and schedule they have.

    If they go a rookie QB take 3-4 games off that probably if he is starting from day 1, or 7-9 or 8-8 if Sanchez starts.

  113. 113 D3FB said at 12:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Even if they bring back Bradford:

    Still need: 2 (preferably 3) OL. A new S. Possibly a WR, and the entire D is going to be paper thin.

    So yes theres a world where this team gets 10 wins if they brin Bradford back. But that’s pretty much the pie in the sky everything breaks right outcome.

  114. 114 anon said at 12:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Poor drafting has really killed this team. But def makes cap easier to manage when you don’t have anyone worth paying.

  115. 115 ChoTime said at 12:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The only thing that really bothers me is that we are wasting Cox’s prime on this trash. It always seems to me that this team is short difference makers.

  116. 116 anon said at 12:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Only one “difference maker” drafted since…dawkins?

  117. 117 TypicalDouche said at 12:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lito Sheppard & Sheldon Brown?

  118. 118 ChoTime said at 12:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Good players, of course. But guys that make the offense have to change their game plan to account for them? We have had a shortage.

    Of course, it is not so easy for good teams to draft such players because of draft order.

  119. 119 TypicalDouche said at 12:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Agreed. I guess the closest the Eagles had since Dawkins was Trent Cole. In his prime teams would avoid his side a good majority of the time being that not only was his pass rush good but his run support was superb.

  120. 120 anon said at 12:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Djax/shady?

  121. 121 TypicalDouche said at 12:59 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think he was referring to the defensive side of the ball. In regards to the offense their has been no shortage of impact players drafted.

  122. 122 anon said at 1:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    True dat.

  123. 123 ChoTime said at 1:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    My impression was that when Reid’s Eagles lost in the playoffs, the other team usually had amazing star players that just overwhelmed us. Discipline and doing things the right way falls before brilliance.

  124. 124 Fufina said at 12:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Don’t agree to be honest. OL was poor last year, but they had a lot of pressure on them and a scheme that leaves them without much help and 1v1 a lot of the time. Having RB’s staying in to block, TE’s on deep pass routes should help shore up the pass protection even with minimal talent injection. 1 good guard who can get movement in the run game should help free up Kelce to get to the 2nd level more frequently and will help improve the run game. adding a free agent and a draft pick will improve quality and OL depth significantly (Barbre/Tolbin can go back to being back ups)

    Outside of that i actually think they have depth at WR (lack a no.1) , RB, CB, LB (if they bring back Goode/Demeco). Will need to replace Celek if they move on. DL is a concern depth wise but fortunatly it is a strength of this draft class and we should be able to stock up on quality depth in the mid rounds.

    Preseason every beat writer spoke about how much deeper and talented this roster looked than before (even with OL concerns). That has not changed imho. We failed in 2015 due to some pretty awful coaching not a fatally floored roster.

  125. 125 anon said at 12:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Will need to replace Celek if they move on. Trey Burton could be $ if he ever got a chance to play.

  126. 126 D3FB said at 1:15 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    You can’t have an OL you have to babysit, no killer RB, no go to WR, and an average QB and expect to win a ton.

  127. 127 EaglesGameBalls said at 12:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hopefully 2 so we can get stud QB in year 2

  128. 128 P_P_K said at 10:48 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m not pleased that Pederson’s vision for the team involves Spags as the DC.

  129. 129 EaglesGameBalls said at 12:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Spags was good

  130. 130 P_P_K said at 12:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz is gooder.

  131. 131 A_T_G said at 12:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Was” is the key word in that statement.

  132. 132 Julescat said at 1:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Spags needs a decent D line to be successful

  133. 133 stephenstempo said at 5:43 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Good to know that there are coordinators out there who don’t.

  134. 134 James said at 11:21 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Any guesses on what happens to Shurmur? Will he take a demotion to QB coach, or will Kelly get him as O coordinator? What other O coordinator jobs are left?

  135. 135 he's_back_scrambling said at 11:51 AM on January 19th, 2016:

    Maybe he will be the spread analyst/ assistant head coach like Childress was in KC.

  136. 136 EaglesGameBalls said at 12:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I guess Chiefs.

  137. 137 A_T_G said at 12:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Childress is expected to step into the OC job in KC.

  138. 138 Greg Richards said at 12:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Shurmur is under contract. All non-HC jobs are classifed as an assistant coach job with respect to how the NFL rules about teams being able to block a coach from leaving applies. So, as long as the Eagles are willing to pay him the same amount of money he was making, they could keep him as QB coach whether he likes it or not. Now, of course, you don’t necessarily want to keep a coach who wouldn’t be happy here.

  139. 139 anon said at 12:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Interesting didn’t hear a report of Eagles denying SF’s request to interview him. Does CK not want him? If feeling was that he wasn’t going to be OC here you’d think he’d spend more time interviewing elsewhere — that said probably hard to get a new job the way things went down here.

  140. 140 James said at 12:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If he does stay as Qb coach, and I think he will because his family is probably comfortable here; then Bradford should also feel more comfortable staying. I think he still adds value using some of Chips play calls too.

  141. 141 anon said at 12:43 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    qb coach or unemployed. doubt pederson wants that kind of conflict from a vet coach, especially when it’s his first time calling plays

  142. 142 EaglesGameBalls said at 12:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Anyone know the best OL free agent available this offseason? Remember Reid first move when he got here…getting Jon Runyan. Would surprise me if Pederson doesnt do the same thing.

  143. 143 Nailed It! said at 12:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

    Go there and search for OL

  144. 144 Tdoteaglefan said at 12:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Would love Cordy glenn. Buffalo most likely won’t let him go …but we also thought the same thing about another Left tackle that we received from them a few years ago.

  145. 145 TypicalDouche said at 12:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I cant see them being able to resign both Glenn and Incognito, so one of those studs will be available.

  146. 146 ACViking said at 1:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I was surprised to see Incognito get 1st team All Pro recognition . . . .

    While Fletcher Cox ended up 2nd team.

    Cox rag-dolled Incognito all afternoon. Not sure Incognito ever did block him that day.

  147. 147 TypicalDouche said at 1:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The all pro nod threw me off as well. I knew he played very well in the few Bills games that I had watched but didn’t realize he was playing at that kind of level. Once again that just shows how good, underrated, and any other narrative you can throw out there about Cox. His level of excitement about a potential switch to a 4-3 has me very very excited to see what he does this year.

  148. 148 ACViking said at 1:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    excellent take away

  149. 149 Mac said at 1:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Difference maker… Jerome 2.0? I can hardly wait.

  150. 150 Insomniac said at 1:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It must be a down year for guards then. Atkins and Donald had the better year compared to Cox. Honestly, I think Cox should have been in consideration for DE since Watt was voted in for DE.

  151. 151 TypicalDouche said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Donald yes, Atkins did not but made it on name recognition and being that he did what he did coming off injury.

  152. 152 Insomniac said at 1:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Atkins had 11 sacks after not playing last season.

  153. 153 TypicalDouche said at 1:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    As a penetrating 4-3 tackle. The fact that Cox had 9.5 sacks playing in a 2-gapping 3-4 is nothing short of amazing and to me he was more deserving then Atkins.

  154. 154 Insomniac said at 1:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    True but if your team isn’t winning then you don’t get looked at nearly as hard.

    Looking at PFF’s list for all pros, I would take their listings with a huge grain of salt. Palmer over Brady? For real?

  155. 155 TypicalDouche said at 1:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Agreed. To me, if the Eagles do switch to the 4-3, this is the year that Cox really gets the national attention he is deserving of.

  156. 156 Insomniac said at 1:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m hoping we land Schwartz and unleash Curry, Graham and Cox.

  157. 157 ACViking said at 1:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I —

    No argument about Donald. The guy is other-worldly every week just about. (Atkins, I can’t say.)

    My comment about Incognito vs. Cox is more about Incognito.

    That afternoon, he looked lead-footed and immobile.

    Next thing I see (well, a couple weeks later), the guy is All Pro. Very surprised is all.

  158. 158 Insomniac said at 1:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well Incognito didn’t make the AP all pro team if that makes any sense now.

    First team guards were Yanda and Decastro.

  159. 159 Insomniac said at 12:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Glenn will probably get tagged.

  160. 160 EaglesGameBalls said at 12:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Looks like we are going to get Russel Okung.

  161. 161 ACViking said at 12:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Reid arrived in 1999.

    His first moves were signing Pederson, WRs CJohnson and TSmall, and S Tim Hauck.

    It was the next season — the 2000 season — that the Eagles signed Runyon as a FA.

    Regardless, your central point is a good one.

  162. 162 Bert's Bells said at 1:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sounds like we’ll be bringing in TWO new WR coaches.

  163. 163 Gary Barnes said at 12:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Russell Okung

  164. 164 TypicalDouche said at 12:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No way is Okung the best free agent available this offseason.

    JR Sweezy, Alex Boone, Kelvin Beachum, and Cordy Glenn that I can think of off the top of my head are all much better options.

    Edit:
    I really hope the Eagles make a play for Sweezy or Boone or both if they can afford it to sure up the interior line.

  165. 165 ACViking said at 12:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Okung’s never played 16 games in his six-year NFL career. (Last three: 8, 14, 13)

    Also, not sure he’s worth LT money.

    Apparently, neither is Seattle.

  166. 166 Insomniac said at 1:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Glenn is better than Okung.

  167. 167 TypicalDouche said at 1:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So is a 34 year old Jason Peters.

  168. 168 Insomniac said at 1:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Okung just isn’t that good even when he’s healthy.

  169. 169 TypicalDouche said at 1:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Exactly, he has been overrated since college. I remember that draft and many “analyst” saying that the Redskins picked the wrong guy in Trent Williams and look how that turned out.

  170. 170 Insomniac said at 1:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Okung was damn good in college though. He was so damn athletic but the injuries killed his potential. Seattle’s OL has been shaky at best for a long time so I don’t think it’s just one guys fault at this point.

  171. 171 oreofestar said at 2:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Glenn is gonna be stupid expensive

  172. 172 Mac said at 1:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Mitchell Schwartz would be a solid choice to play RT across from Johnson as a LT.

  173. 173 RobNE said at 12:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    all press conferences should be at 10 am so I can read about them during my lunch.

  174. 174 Nick C said at 12:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    How everything went down with Schwartz is a little strange. Why would the guy have a deal done with us before he even had an interview? Supposedly, Doug and him do not even know each other. And with the TEN job seemingly opening, I just can’t consider this a done deal until the Eagles announce it.

  175. 175 anon said at 12:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    poor reporting, eagles beat guys looking for scoops

  176. 176 Dave said at 1:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jamie Apody (6abc.com/local ABC news affiliate on air sportsperson) basically said he was in town. Once that had him on camera, they changed their tune that he was signing. Never used the phrase “according to sources” anywhere. Complete fabrication to get headlines. Really, they have nothing to lose if they are wrong.

  177. 177 anon said at 1:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    wish my boss as was forgiving when i’m wrong.

  178. 178 Bert's Bells said at 1:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If your mistakes drive thousands of people to your website, she’ll find it in her heart to forgive you.

  179. 179 ChoTime said at 2:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s not about being wrong, it’s getting results. For these guys, getting attention is the product.

  180. 180 ACViking said at 12:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Re: Offensive Lineman Jeff Allen

    There’s a former 2nd Rd pick from the 2012 entering free agency named Jeff Allen.
    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/A/AlleJe01.htm
    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/jeff-allen/

    Allen was selected by the Chiefs, started 27 games his first two seasons. Seems to have been injured the past couple years.

    He’s started at OG and OT for the Chiefs.

    Not a premium FA. But maybe someone Pederson wants to bring here.

  181. 181 Insomniac said at 12:59 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/jeff-allen?id=2532787

    http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansas-city-chiefs/2012/4/27/2982169/2012-chiefs-draft-looking-at-jeff-allens-various-scouting-reports

    The consensus seems about right. He could most likely be better than what we have right now.

  182. 182 Mac said at 1:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    As long as we’re acquiring people named Schwartz… let’s give Mitchell Schwartz a call.

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  184. 184 anon said at 12:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The fact that Wade Phillips was ever unemployed lets you know how silly the hiring system is in pro football.

  185. 185 anon said at 12:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    from PFT on Chiefs drive:

    How bad is that? It’s almost unheard of. According to the drive finder at Pro Football Reference, there have been 2,111 drives
    in NFL games since 1998 in which the team with the ball trailed by 9-17
    points (in other words, they needed to score more than once but weren’t
    totally out of it) with less than seven minutes left. Out of those
    2,111 drives, only one took more time than the 5:16 the Chiefs took off
    the clock on Saturday.

  186. 186 RobNE said at 12:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    was the one that took more time the Eagles in the SB?

  187. 187 ACViking said at 1:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The SB drive took 3:52 . . .

    though it felt like 6:52.

  188. 188 TypicalDouche said at 1:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I felt like I aged 10 years during that drive between the length of it and the stress of watching.

  189. 189 ACViking said at 1:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The whole drive was slow and in slow motion.

    Here’s what the Eagles gained on each play:

    4
    4
    5
    2
    inc
    10
    inc
    0
    11
    inc
    13
    inc
    30 – TD

  190. 190 TypicalDouche said at 1:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Wow I remember the drive taking forever but seeing how the plays went, its shocking that it didn’t take longer.

  191. 191 ACViking said at 1:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    remember how angry Belichick was after the TD?

    at the rate the Eagles were going, those last 30 yards — if the Pats didn’t blow a coverage — would have taken 4 or 5 more plays . . .

    and another 1:00 off the clock, at least.

  192. 192 TypicalDouche said at 1:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Ahhh yes I remember Belichick being very livid in those moments.

  193. 193 ACViking said at 1:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    looking at those play numbers . . .

    (i) I want to cry again.

    (ii) I want to laugh because KC took even longer.

  194. 194 TypicalDouche said at 1:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    And I would easily join you in doing those things.

  195. 195 RobNE said at 1:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I remember their safety (or corner) got hurt, was out, and it took like 15 plays for us to attack the newbie, which resulted in the Greg Lewis touchdown.

  196. 196 RobNE said at 1:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I was already in NE at the time, watching it at a friend’s house with all Pats fans. When McNabb is throwing up you can imagine the abuse I took.

    and you all wonder why I hate the Pats so much. #neverforget

  197. 197 Fufina said at 1:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Thing that amazed me was there commitment to the run and there lack of any kind of package of plays so they could complete back to back plays without huddling. Was truly bizarre.

    However in Andy’s defense… that offense is not build to go down the field fast its designed to play with the lead and be methodical… so thats what they did.

  198. 198 ACViking said at 12:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Maybe someone can explain why exactly the drive took so long — with more than just Andy Reid can’t manage the clock.

    I watched the game. I saw NE playing deep across the field, keeping everything underneath.

    And I saw twice where Chief WRs — a rookie in Conley and a 2nd year player in Wilson — didn’t step out of bounds after catching the ball, instead fighting for a couple extra yards. (yes, good coaching and good QBing reminds all players to get out of bounds ASAP)

    Beyond that . . . schematically, systemically, whatever . . . why exactly did this drive take so long?

  199. 199 RobNE said at 1:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I also saw the QB more than once run a long way to go out of bounds for a gain of 2-3 yards. Maybe those yards matter, but those were long plays. I think a lot of QB’s throw it away.

    but that’s prob just another what, 15 seconds. That can’t be the primary reason. The primary reason was all the huddles and changing personnel.

  200. 200 ChoTime said at 1:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Reid is just a methodical dude, apparently.

  201. 201 ChoTime said at 1:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Reid should just say, “I believe in getting the right personnel, the right play call, and putting my guys in situations they can succeed. Maybe you prefer the guy who just got fired that made everyone go so fast they turned the ball over every other drive.”

  202. 202 Julescat said at 1:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    a short pass over the middle to Avant who is tackled at the 3 yard line. Then the Chiefs go into a huddle.

    either bad call or bad route running. not having two plays called in the last huddle is inexplicable

  203. 203 Bert's Bells said at 1:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Alex Smith had a big lunch and the chunks were taking long to come back up.

  204. 204 botto said at 1:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    between plays Andy was heard on his headset asking for his 2nd steak sandwich he had ordered. he kept saying it’s OK take your time. Alex Smith thought he was talking to him I guess.

  205. 205 Nailed It! said at 1:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Breaking: Can confirm Jim Schwartz has agreed to be Eagles new offensive coordinator. Deal not signed yet, but done.— Don Banks (@DonBanks) January 19, 2016

  206. 206 Dave said at 1:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah!

  207. 207 Insomniac said at 1:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    God damn I’m late to the party. Is Banks a reliable source?

  208. 208 RobNE said at 1:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t trust any of these reporters anymore, I want like 5 people reporting it. Then it’s moved up to a maybe.

  209. 209 Insomniac said at 1:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’ll believe it when Heath Evans rips it.

  210. 210 Dave said at 1:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yes

  211. 211 TypicalDouche said at 1:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson learning well from Big Red by making a defensive guy the offensive coordinator instead of offensive guy to the defensive side of the ball.

  212. 212 since1961 said at 2:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well done.

  213. 213 anon said at 1:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Of course they Juan Castillo him.

  214. 214 Nailed It! said at 1:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hahaha I didn’t even catch that the first time around!

  215. 215 ACViking said at 1:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    typo aside in the tweet (“offensive coordinator”) . . .

    I suspect the Eagles have made Jim Schwartz the highest paid coordinator — offense or defense — in the NFL.

    And by more than a few dollars.

  216. 216 Dave said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    But I thought nobody wants to work with Howie.

  217. 217 anon said at 1:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    People love working w/ $$.

  218. 218 BobSmith77 said at 1:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Exactly. This has almost nothing to do with Roseman.

  219. 219 ChoTime said at 2:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Interesting, so you don’t buy that Howie’s presence here is a net negative is acquiring coaching talent?

  220. 220 Dave said at 3:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not at all. I think it’s media driven.

  221. 221 RobNE said at 1:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    why do you suspect that?

  222. 222 Mac said at 1:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Because the Titans job is in his hometown.

  223. 223 RobNE said at 1:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    was that job offered to him? I must have missed that.

  224. 224 Mac said at 1:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think it is just now hitting the market. But I doubt we want him going for an interview.

  225. 225 RobNE said at 1:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    ok I see the point you are making.

  226. 226 ACViking said at 1:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    RNE:

    Schwartz was the top available 4-3 DC — certainly, in the estimation of the Eagles front office.

    He had some other coaching options available to him. And he has money in the bank. A move isn’t necessary for him.

    With the Eagles, I’m assuming he’ll be the “head coach of the defense” — answering generally to Pederson, but (as with the Reid-Johnson model) essentially left to his own devices.

    Also, he’s a former HC. The only former HC on the staff, it looks like. So I’d like to think the Eagles front office is expecting more from Schwartz than from, say, a Billy Davis-type.

    Plus, I think Lurie wants to maintain (or restore?), as much as he can, the perception that the Eagles are a 1st Class franchise that’s willing to pay for the best assistant coaches.

    Combine these (and some other factors, like Mac said, such as home-town oppty), and you have the highest paid coordinator.

    Just a theory.

  227. 227 Anders said at 1:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think its a fair bet Schwartz will get full control of the defense (Reid done the same both here and with the Chiefs, so that is the model Pederson has learned) and Schwartz has the personality that the defense will feed off

  228. 228 Julescat said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    offensive coordinator?

  229. 229 Nailed It! said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    typo he meant defensive

  230. 230 Corry said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He fixed it after.

    https://twitter.com/DonBanks/status/689512499423514625

  231. 231 eagleyankfan said at 2:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If the “Deal” is not yet signed .. then the Eagles do not have a new DC….

  232. 232 Tdoteaglefan said at 1:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Juan derful!!!!

  233. 233 Sean Stott said at 1:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That was a typo, but my guys told me this yesterday.

  234. 234 BlindChow said at 1:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    lmao

  235. 235 Nailed It! said at 1:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    My guys drink all my beer on Sundays

  236. 236 nevadausa16 said at 1:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Some guy kept telling us Maclin was getting re-signed last year.
    Just a formality.
    Your guys are better than the other guy.

  237. 237 since1961 said at 2:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Rats, I hoped for him as defensive coordinator. Banks has some inside dope. 😉

  238. 238 bridgecoach said at 1:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson’s Juan Castillo!

  239. 239 James said at 1:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Juanita Schwartz! He wanted Jim Washburn’s insults to live on!

  240. 240 Fufina said at 1:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Going to run the Wide 9 offensive line. Tackles out wide so they can get up and attack the 2nd level aggressively. What will happen up the middle may be a concern to some people but we will have 8 QB’s on the active roster.

  241. 241 James said at 1:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    lol, and Bradford would begin his retirement papers

  242. 242 Insomniac said at 1:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So we’re going to have 5 Riley Coopers?

  243. 243 RobNE said at 1:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Is Reich on board yet, what is taking so long for that?

    maybe they announce both coordinators at the press conference.

  244. 244 Insomniac said at 1:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So uhh how much money does Curry resign for?

  245. 245 Anders said at 1:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I say Graham money is fair deal

  246. 246 Insomniac said at 1:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think he might do a one year prove it deal.

  247. 247 botto said at 1:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pretty amazing seeing AVANT make those catches, like he always has, for the chiefs.

  248. 248 EaglesGameBalls said at 1:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah he had the game of his career. I loved it!

  249. 249 Insomniac said at 1:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    DC battle

    Pederson: 1
    Chip: 0

    Seriously why did he even consider Billy Davis? Did the other DCs smell Chip’s BS when they met or something?

  250. 250 ACViking said at 1:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Don’t know if Mangini will be eventually be crowned the 49ers DC . . .

    But he was very much available in 2013 when Kelly came to Philadelphia. And there’s no evidence I can find that Kelly spoke to him.

    Then in June 2013, the 49ers gave Mangini a job (some kind of exotic title sort of like Childress had in KC).

  251. 251 RobNE said at 1:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    who are Chip’s coordinators?

  252. 252 Insomniac said at 1:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I heard that they’re trying to keep Mangini as the DC.

  253. 253 Anders said at 2:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I have seen Mike Vrabel as the DC (aka Belichick told Kelly to hire him)

  254. 254 Insomniac said at 2:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I thought that was just an interview.

  255. 255 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    cause he had experience with a 3-4. Chip Kelly is such a small minded

  256. 256 RobNE said at 1:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I trust some of you will be live blogging the press conference. Thanks in advance.

  257. 257 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Im so tired of this franchise behaving like some pussy Weasels. After what we been thru, and then get Howie jammed back down our throats without even seeing if we could find better, now this pussy Owner isn’t going to make Howie available to the media today? Grow a spine, grow some Balls Lurie, pussy…… You believe in Howie, fine, Grow some Balls and OWN IT, instead of hiding Howie from the media because you know the public ISNT thrilled with it.
    ..
    After the Mess LURIE allowed the last GM chip to make, what type of disrespect is it to hire a new GM, and hide him from fans and media.. The LEAST Howie Amd LURIE could do is take some question, and have the Balls to not hide Howie..
    ..
    What a spit in the face. What franchise changes GM and doesn’t make the new GM available to the media. How disrespectful can this franchise be? It’s bad enough, you built an entire new Regime on Nepotism, recycling ghosts of assistants past, without adequately searching to see if we can find better, at least have the decency to OWN it…

    What are you gpmg to do? Hide Howie and protect him forever? Even Hinkie knows that there are a few TImes per year that hehas to address the media, I find this to be so gutless and disrespectful…
    ..
    So tired of this franchise

  258. 258 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    then go away. nobody reads all the crap you write. Go become a 49ers fan like I became a Chiefs fan. Just get out of here. you suck.

  259. 259 Anders said at 2:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    This day is a bout Pederson, not about Howie. Howie will talk soon enough.

    Also who the hell is out there that is better than Howie? and I mean both in contracts, trades and the draft?

  260. 260 eagleyankfan said at 2:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    any recent team with a ring. Don’t mean a thing unless you got that ring…

  261. 261 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I probably like Howie more than majority of fans… I dont have any problem with Doug or his assistants, but I HATE how this franchise went about EVERYTHING to get to this Poimt.

    LURIE fired Chip, reinstated Howie, but hid him from THAT press confrence, now we are introducing a new coach without the GM? Who the fuck operates like that? SOOO disrespecful, and I already am hearing that the plan ismy to have Howie so in front of everything like last time..
    ..
    Typically when a coach is introduced, it’s done by the Owner and GM..

  262. 262 RobNE said at 2:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    who really cares though? it works or it doesn’t, whether the GM is at the press conference for the HC should be way, way down on the list.

  263. 263 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I LIKE HOWIE!! I am probably a bigger fan of his than 90% of this message board…. I don’t like weasel behavior

  264. 264 nathaniel driver said at 2:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sorry if this has been covered, but why do you put certain words in all CAPS? I DON’T get it. Also, go away.

  265. 265 Dave said at 2:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    EMPHASIS so you know what words he is SHOUTING as he is typing.

  266. 266 nathaniel driver said at 2:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I figured. It reminds me of a few guys that tend to hang around 7-11 asking for change..

  267. 267 Dave said at 2:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    whislt texting on their iphone

  268. 268 peteike said at 2:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    he should get grilled for that by the press. I think he will. What has Howie done since 2010 that he deserves another shot, team hasnt won squat. Their small circle of interviewees and the Duce charade in this hiring process are worthy of being criticized. They went with the best fit instead of maybe the best coach. Doesnt mean they didnt get a good coach, just that the process was limited.

  269. 269 Anders said at 2:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The only draft we know was run by Howie, we drafted Cox, Curry, Kendricks, Foles and Boykin

  270. 270 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    thats a good one

  271. 271 peteike said at 2:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    decent draft, hit 3, so the secrecy again with Howie and what he did. Howie hasnt won anything. Lurie should have cut bait and went with a new GM, instead he pseudo promotes him while taking away personnel decisions to just bring him back in fold, what a mess

  272. 272 Anders said at 2:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    But is it Howies fault that Reid and Kelly didnt win anything?

  273. 273 peteike said at 2:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    a better question is what has he done to earn this

  274. 274 Anders said at 2:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Nobody outside of Lurie knows that

  275. 275 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I like Howie, I think he brings a lot of good to the GMS positipn, but don’t be a weasel about it and hide him from the media. You made a decision, stand tall and OWN IT

  276. 276 stephenstempo said at 5:52 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    who says pussy after like the age of 21?

  277. 277 Nailed It! said at 2:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    And he is late!

  278. 278 Nailed It! said at 2:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Something something Clock Management is already an issue

  279. 279 Dave said at 2:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They’re probably still huddled waiting for the script

  280. 280 RobNE said at 2:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    probably waiting for Eskin to sit down and shut up

  281. 281 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Josh Innes is so annoying. get that dude out of here and get the press conference started.

  282. 282 Nailed It! said at 2:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I am guessing Schwartz and his pesky contract have gummed up the works for this little press conference thingy we are trying to watch.

  283. 283 RobNE said at 2:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    maybe that’s where Howie is, you know, doing the contracts.

  284. 284 Nailed It! said at 2:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It is startting

  285. 285 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lets go Pederson!

  286. 286 RobNE said at 2:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    someone should be there with an IB press credential.

  287. 287 Anders said at 2:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jim Schwartz spotted at the PC, so I guess the deal has been signed?

  288. 288 anon said at 2:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That is incredible – They apparently were looking for Chip's replacement before they fired Chip. I'm SURE word did't get around the building— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) January 19, 2016

  289. 289 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Are you surprised Howie spent the season looking for new coaes? You know he was in LURIE’s ear the full time “you gotta fire this guy, how much longer can he be allowed to destroy the team?”
    ,.
    You know that before Chip was fired Howie wemt in his office armed with Stats, coachng evaluations, and all types of Intel about why Chip NEEDED to be fired.?
    ..
    Howie has most likely been working towards this since the day his office was moved to the other side of Novacare

  290. 290 RobNE said at 2:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    well it’s not like Chip performed so well to avoid it

  291. 291 Bert's Bells said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Any well run organization would do that.

    Like the US invasion plan for Canada.

  292. 292 FairOaks said at 2:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Incredible” means “hard to believe”. It’s not only believable, but rather if Lurie *hadn’t* done that, only then would it be incredible. If you anticipate the need to fire someone, then you know you’re going to need to hire someone else. Which means you do planning work in case it comes to that — that’s just a good organization. Obviously you keep that to yourself and people you know will be staying (possibly Howie, or maybe that’s why Lurie used outsiders like Jaws and Polian, to keep that information outside the building).

    It may only be “incredible” if you want to push the (apparently completely inaccurate) storyline that it was an impulse firing and the team was flailing at trying to find a candidate.

  293. 293 RobNE said at 2:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Right I think it’s just not well worded. Saying something like “we always keep tabs on NFL personnel, if we didn’t we wouldn’t be doing our job” would be better.

  294. 294 anon said at 3:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well it’s like do you fire a 20-win coach halfway through next season. Makes it seem like Chip was on a short leash probably before season started. He’s not the first guy to start the season under .500.

  295. 295 anon said at 2:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jeff Lurie said Eagles started with 25 candidates "during the season." Said gathered information "in case we had to go in this direction."— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) January 19, 2016

  296. 296 Insomniac said at 2:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Dayummmm Chip really stepped on a lot of toes.

  297. 297 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yeah I figured that Howe might’ve been looking for Chips replacement and plotting the next move in case of his downfall ever since he got stripped of power and moved to the janitors closet last year.

  298. 298 jpate said at 2:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jim Schwartz is at Pederson's PC. pic.twitter.com/TyJIXPno5V— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) January 19, 2016

  299. 299 Mac said at 2:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Fletch, Bennie, Brandon, Vinny all psyched beyond belief.

  300. 300 Insomniac said at 2:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lead young man
    Tremendous owner
    top notch individuals
    good support
    understands Philly culture (what it feels like to win here)

    Pederson’s reasons why he came here.

    edit: Seems like it took this long to start so Howie/Lurie can get him to say all of that.

  301. 301 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He seems a little nervous.

  302. 302 Insomniac said at 2:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz officially the DC

  303. 303 Insomniac said at 2:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    On Bradford’s future, still evaluating.

    Still interviewing OCs

  304. 304 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    of course.

  305. 305 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Still undecided on an Offensive coordinator,,, so much for the Reich reports.
    ..
    Doug says” Bradford fits perfectly in the system he wants to bring, and that he can be a top notch QBS, just look at the second half of this season” .. SMART MAN!

  306. 306 TypicalDouche said at 2:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Also said still evaluating, so take almost everything said right now with a grain of salt brother.

  307. 307 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    lol Good QB play, ISNT the big grand decision people make it out to be…you can keep SAM and try and win a division, or let him get away and becone irrelevant forced to over draft Qb prospects out of desperation… I believe that we are smarter than that… But we’ll see…. But personally im convinced SAM is our QB

    Doug talked about not only winning the division next year. But SAM having the talent To win playpff games next yeàr…. NOTHING That came out of Doug or Luries mouth points to a rebuild with a rookie QB…
    ..
    If ignorant fans can magnify every “report” of some blowhard claiming that he knows SAM doesn’t want to be here, or that he knows the Eagles don’t want to Pay SAM, then I can point to what has directly come out of ourcoach and Owners mouth.
    .
    For someone who Knows this city well, I doubt he thinks that openly lying to philly in his introductory press Confrence is the best way to start his HC career
    ..
    Then again, I really don’t give a shit what anyone says, nor do I care what some hack media clown reports.. I DONT believe a franchise with Bradford caliber QBS will let him get away. i Need to see Bradford leave Philly to believe it…. The guy is healthy, entering his prime, and Qbs like that don’t switch Teams, the only way a franchise lets a QB like that get away is if they have a young QB on the bench they believe in. alex smith never gets traded if KAp wasn’t in place behind him, Drew Brees would have never been aLlowed to leave San Diego if Rivers Wasnt in place.. peyton never leaves the Colts of Luck Wasnt in place,
    ..
    We wouldhave to be a moronic dysfunctional mess to łet Sam get away and go into a weak QB draft without a QB. Especially when we dont have a 2nd round pick, and we aren’t picking in the top 10
    ..
    im CONVINCED Sam is the QB of the Eagles until proven otherwise.. I don’t believe we are stupid enough to let a QB get away that played the positipn Bradford showed the secondhalf of the season (Independant of the team results)

  308. 308 RobNE said at 2:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    well the DC hire was much more important

  309. 309 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hell yeah!

  310. 310 TypicalDouche said at 2:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Just over here like.

  311. 311 BobSmith77 said at 2:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Only interesting thing is that Pederson said he’ll call the plays on offense. Only real ‘news’ so far.

  312. 312 Insomniac said at 2:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Doug calling plays on offense.

    Doug was calling plays on every second half since the Pittsburg game and the playoff game. Drives took long since he didn’t want to give Brady the ball back. Uhh shit did we make a mistake?

  313. 313 Anders said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pretty smart not to give the ball back to Brady.

    Also I like how he owns up to it and not try to blame others

  314. 314 Insomniac said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    but they were down 10+ points?

  315. 315 RobNE said at 2:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yeah real smart to milk the clock down by 2 scores. It’s unpredictable I’ll give it that. Waay outside the box.

  316. 316 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Its a learning process and the logic is correct.

  317. 317 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Nobody is born perfect dude.

  318. 318 anon said at 2:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    so he’s called plays in the second half of 8 games? great.

  319. 319 Insomniac said at 2:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pittsburgh was the start of their win streak. I’d have to do some more digging to evaluate that.

  320. 320 Julescat said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pittsburgh was without Big Ben that game.

    KC’s schedule was full of easy games

  321. 321 Insomniac said at 2:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They did beat Denver

  322. 322 BobSmith77 said at 2:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Didn’t want to give Brady the ball back, down too many WRs, still had timeouts to try an onside kick . .

    So many weak ass excuses even though you knew it was coming.

  323. 323 RobNE said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    that makes no sense. If you get the onsides kick and get down to the 10, then you can start playing with the clock. but you need that time to get in a position to score.

    this must be the first time a team down by two scores was milking the clock on purpose.

  324. 324 BobSmith77 said at 2:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It BS. Just has enough common sense to not throw Reid under the bus here.

  325. 325 RobNE said at 2:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hope so but I’d like some recognition that it’s BS. Like is he winking? Are his fingers crossed? something?

  326. 326 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    My understanding is that they even tho they were down, they prefered giving BRady the ball back with 50 seconds instead of with 3 minutes, because if BRady got the ball back with 3 minutes, they would have run their regular offense, and KC wasn’t able to stop it all day, Zero sacks on BRady, ONLY hit him ONCE which is crazy. So the thinking was that if they gaveback the ball to the Pats with only 50 seconds, it was more likely that they would run the ball 3 times to kill the clock, and KC was doing good against the run, but couldn’t stop bRady all game

  327. 327 RobNE said at 2:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    they were down by 2 scores at this point right, not one. So they onsides kick it in this scenario? and get it back, and need to score another TD. How does 20 seconds left better than 2 minutes?

  328. 328 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yes, playoff statistic say you have about a 25% to get the onside kick, if not, they were hoping Pats would just run 3 times instead of running their regular offenses
    ..

  329. 329 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The honesty in taking responsibility for that final drive. I like it.

  330. 330 Anders said at 2:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson already getting grilled for losing a game in his opening press conference. A new #Eagles record!— Michael Tanier (@MikeTanier) 19. januar 2016

  331. 331 BobSmith77 said at 2:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    http://s.quickmeme.com/img/11/11db2e8927f94540e06aceff20761504ae6f5ecb06839d918113101eb30d7baa.jpg

  332. 332 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Talking about plugging Bradford in and cutting him loose, and that he wants to reach out and talk to SAM

  333. 333 Insomniac said at 2:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Collaborative effort between Doug, Howie, and Donahoe (for now?) over the roster.

  334. 334 anon said at 2:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Seeing how much FO hated chip not surprised we dind’t want to keep portions of his scheme.

  335. 335 Anders said at 2:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Why is Howard Eskin asking a question already asked?

  336. 336 BobSmith77 said at 2:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    ‘It’s a collaborative effort’

    Going to break any ties by rock, scissors, or paper until Howie just says ‘screw this.’

  337. 337 eagleyankfan said at 2:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hope his pre-game speeches are better….first HC job though so I’d imagine he’s a bit nervous and uncertain. Said all the stock answers…..

  338. 338 Sean Stott said at 2:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “does it bother you that you weren’t the first choice?”

    fucking ouch

  339. 339 Anders said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I loved how Lurie just told the media they was full of shit

  340. 340 BobSmith77 said at 2:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Nah. They just called it out and he just responded back.

  341. 341 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Such a disrespectful uneccessary question by this trashy media

  342. 342 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yup it was ridiculous for a reporter to say that when he had no idea whether it was true or not. Totally irresponsible.

  343. 343 oreofestar said at 2:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Disrespectful

  344. 344 RobNE said at 2:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    who asked it?

  345. 345 Sean Stott said at 2:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Didn’t regognize the guy, but they did pan to him

  346. 346 RobNE said at 2:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    not Tommy right?

  347. 347 Anders said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE Lurie saying the media was full of shit

  348. 348 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    loved it. my favorite part.

  349. 349 RobNE said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hope he used those words

  350. 350 Anders said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He said that none of what the reported was true

  351. 351 BobSmith77 said at 2:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I wonder what random boxes they had to check off in their candidates searches:

    – Hate Cowboys
    – Non-vegan/vegetarian
    – ???

  352. 352 Insomniac said at 2:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Doug likes Fipp and Stoutland style

  353. 353 anon said at 2:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie: "At no point was anybody about to be offered a job other than Doug Pederson. That's where that is."— Reuben Frank (@RoobCSN) January 19, 2016

  354. 354 BobSmith77 said at 2:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    What the hell do the reporters expect Lurie to say about Pederson?

    Yeah we had 3 or 4 guys in mind and wound up having to go with Pederson. Of course publicly he is going to come out and say Pederson was his guy (and only guy) all along.

  355. 355 ChoTime said at 2:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    https://www.dotas-scandal.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/pinocchio.jpg

  356. 356 FairOaks said at 2:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The reporters or Lurie?

  357. 357 BobSmith77 said at 2:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie. Standard operating procedure though.

  358. 358 FairOaks said at 2:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yes, but I’m guessing somewhere between 75% and 100% of the reports we offered the job to someone were also false.

    Reporter were almost certainly getting all their information from the candidates’ side, not the Eagles, and in those cases agents will definitely plant false rumors in order to manipulate other teams.

  359. 359 BobSmith77 said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I doubt it but I wouldn’t expect Lurie to say anything else (or any owner for that matter).

  360. 360 ChoTime said at 2:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie, of course. I don’t give a $hit about what reporters say or think.

  361. 361 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    nice wig Roob. Roob the Boob.

  362. 362 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s cool to see the clip of the Bills defense carrying Schwartz on their shoulders off the field after winning a big game… For whatever it’s worth, we damn sure didnt see eagles carrying Chip off the field.
    ..
    That doesn’t mean much, but it does say that he could connect and build the right relationships with his players which was sonething that chip allegedly lacked

  363. 363 RobNE said at 2:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    a regular season game? wow.

    I’m hopeful and optimistic. what more can I ask for at this point.

  364. 364 Sean Stott said at 2:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That was so awesome. I love how flamboyant Schwartz is.

  365. 365 RobNE said at 2:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    maybe he can bring some Buddy Ryan swagger back to the defense.

  366. 366 Sean Stott said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s what I’m hoping for. I want to see over the top sack celebrations, Jordan Mathews spinning the ball, and sideline antics. Was getting sick of how boring Eagles football has gotten.

  367. 367 sdev923 said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He’s a Jeff Fisher disciple, who’s a Buddy disciple I have a feeling he will

  368. 368 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah it’s on YouTube..,
    ..
    I also loved that he almost fought Harbaugh when he was acting like a Jerk during the post game handshakes

  369. 369 Sean Stott said at 2:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I showed that clip to my wife and she was on Harbaugh’s side, which annoyed me. I mean, Harbaugh clearly didn’t even stop jogging, right? Super rude in my book.

  370. 370 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah seemed like HARBAUGH was a dick, kept running, kind of rubbing the win in Schwartz face. And Schwartz was having no part of it lol
    ..
    Sure could use an infusion of toughness

  371. 371 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Dougie sure making it sound like SAM Bradford is the Qb of the Eagles, and he claims that he believes this team has enough to try and win the division next year… Can’t say I disagree with anything he said

  372. 372 oreofestar said at 2:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m not sure how to read it, he could genuinely want Bradford but even if he dirsbtyky can’t say anything negative about him that just shows the rest of the league you don’t want him and diminishes trade value

  373. 373 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He is bringing up bradford on his own a couple times. I understand when he just answers questions about SAM, but he is bringing up SAM on his own in some cases

  374. 374 anon said at 2:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    offensive coach is DOA without a QB.

  375. 375 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Franchise are irrelevant without a QB, and we won’t get a QB that gives us a better chamce to win these next 3 years than SAM…. I think people are grossly under rating The ability SAM showed, improving each week while the rest of the franchise was in a steady decline

  376. 376 anon said at 3:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    if they are improving think you have to keep them.

  377. 377 Sean Stott said at 2:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think Doug nails the midnight green tie better than Lurie. Shame Lurie! I think his color vision is inferior to Doug the Thug’s

    http://i.imgur.com/Oh7qkSn.png

  378. 378 BobSmith77 said at 2:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Nailed the dark grey color better but that solid midnight green tie is brutal. Impossible to make it work with anything really.

    Pederson did better and the white shirt makes it pop a bit more.

  379. 379 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “We are about to start a search for head of personnel”-LURIE… Hopefully when this hire is introduced, they will finally make Howie available to the media

  380. 380 BobSmith77 said at 2:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pretty much what I figured although I wonder if they will do another public press conference with Roseman & the new hire. I tend to doubt it.

  381. 381 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think they will have to…. LURIE made it sound like they will have another press Confrence to adress the new front office structure, but who knows. Think it’s a weasel move to already have had two press Confrence and hidden Howie from both, Hopefully a 3rd press Confrence will be the charm

  382. 382 Insomniac said at 2:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    clock management issues when you’re down 2 scores? Doug please.

  383. 383 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It was fine. They needed to stop the Patriots on defense. They didn’t it was game over. Had that defense stopped the Patriots it would have been fine.

  384. 384 Insomniac said at 2:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They didn’t really stop Brady at any point of the game.

  385. 385 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah except at the one yard line.

  386. 386 Anders said at 2:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Seriously, what other media base grill a HC about decisions made by another teams HC he worked under?

  387. 387 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s really unbelievable. Hey Doug, “Can you trash Andy Reid so I can write an interesting tweet?”

  388. 388 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Miserable Philly CUNT media

  389. 389 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jeff McClane let him answer the question.

  390. 390 BobSmith77 said at 2:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie refuses to answer a single question about Roseman and decision-making in the organization.

    Opaqueness abides.

  391. 391 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He doesnt have to answer anything really.

  392. 392 BobSmith77 said at 2:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Of course not but it does little to inspire confidence.

    Maybe he’ll do it when they hire a new director of player personnel but I doubt it. Lurie has generally refused to provide clarity on this for several years now. I don’t expect it will change.

  393. 393 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He’s never going to answer that. It’s rude.

  394. 394 BobSmith77 said at 2:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It isn’t ‘rude’ at all. It is a pretty basic question about managerial roles and reporting hierarchy.

    It isn’t ‘personal’ nor it is irrelevant. This is Lurie’s empty non-answer.

    Reuben Frank ‏@RoobCSN 5m5 minutes ago New Jersey, USA

    Lurie: “Accountability will be the No. 1 priority for me. That goes for Howie and it goes for everybody.”

  395. 395 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Of all the partners on your team, who sucks?” That’s rude.

  396. 396 BobSmith77 said at 2:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That question you just posed has nothing in all with what Reuben Frank asked.

    Their was no negative connotations or assertions with Frank’s question. Frank didn’t question Roseman’s competence or belittle him.

    Lurie just refuses to answer the question.

  397. 397 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He isn’t going to answer the question. Will you still live?

  398. 398 BobSmith77 said at 3:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No but why do you simply not acknowledge that Lurie won’t answer a perfectly valid question?

  399. 399 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He doesn’t have to answer ANY questions. He is the owner.

  400. 400 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    LURIE says that once they hire the head of personnel, he will explain to everyone how Howie and everyone else will be head accountable..

  401. 401 peteike said at 2:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “collaborative effort” means Howie isnt accountable…….again

  402. 402 BobSmith77 said at 2:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s a really weak non-answer but been par for the course for Lurie in regards to how the FO operates & who has final say the past several years.

    I don’t expect that that to change.

  403. 403 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Collaborative approach is Bullshit! Every single regime no matter what power structure they use, Clllaborate on all Decisions, but whether.lurie wants to admit it or not, someone ultimately makes the final decision

  404. 404 peteike said at 2:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    at some point protecting your “friend” from criticism doesnt work

  405. 405 BobSmith77 said at 2:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Of course. Lurie will get criticized for this after today and rightfully so.

    Just refuses to answer a basic penitent question.

  406. 406 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Weasel behavior… Im fine with him making Howie the GM, but grow some balls and OWN IT

  407. 407 Sean Stott said at 2:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Wow Jimmy Kempski, that tie looks like it came from a discount rack from Marshall’s from 1997. Eeesh.

  408. 408 Sean Stott said at 2:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    http://i.imgur.com/DyDHxA8.png

  409. 409 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    LEHIGH!!!

  410. 410 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Noooooooooo

  411. 411 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Claims Its more Of a new hybrid offense, instead of traditional west coast offense, and he claims things were be tailored around his players.. Chip said the same thing, but he was full of shit.. Doug has so much experiemce, I kind of belíeve him, since it’s the smart thing to do

  412. 412 Sean Stott said at 2:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    For Doug, he isn’t married to his scheme, so changing it is simple. For Chip, he was philosophically married to his scheme, so changing it meant that his philosophies on football were wrong, and he refused to go down that path.

  413. 413 Insomniac said at 2:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’ll believe it when I see it. You can blame Chip for lying about “tailoring his scheme for players”.

  414. 414 Insomniac said at 2:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Doug it’s ok to let everyone know that we’re going to the 4-3. You hired Schwartz..for the 4-3 right? RIGHT?????

  415. 415 ACViking said at 2:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think Schwartz used 3-down linemen on a 4th and 30 with 20 seconds left in the game a couple times.

    Other than that . . .

  416. 416 JoeBlow said at 3:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    he mixed it up a lot in Buffalo, sometimes there were only 3 down lineman,but many times they played in a base 4-3 under

    he likes to switch up looks throughout the game….i’ve also seen him implement a 3-3-5 look many times which was pretty effective during his year in Buffalo

  417. 417 ACViking said at 3:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Great intel.
    Thx!

  418. 418 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    WHat is with all of the questions about Sam Bradford. The guy just got freaking hired!!!

  419. 419 ChoTime said at 3:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Because the QB is more important than the head coach. Bro.

  420. 420 EaglesGameBalls said at 3:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He just got hired.

  421. 421 ChoTime said at 3:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I could be the head coach if Aaron Rodgers was the QB.

  422. 422 EaglesGameBalls said at 5:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No you couldn’t

  423. 423 botto said at 3:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    and in three years he will have just been fired

  424. 424 EaglesGameBalls said at 5:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That is not true at all. If you had Peyton manning and the coach put in 7 year old to block for him you would lose.

  425. 425 ACViking said at 2:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie much more cagey about Bradford.

    WISELY.

  426. 426 anon said at 2:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Every compliment = more “$”.

  427. 427 BobSmith77 said at 2:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Replay the conference with a register sound ringing in the background.

  428. 428 eagleyankfan said at 3:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie knows what to say and what not to say — DP has to learn that craft…like when they ask about what happened in KC — better response is “today is about the Eagles” …

  429. 429 Sean Stott said at 2:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Like do these reporters think that Howie sits in a room by himself, grubbing onto his “power”, with the door closed, and he’s just sending in the draft choices? I mean come on.

  430. 430 EaglesGameBalls said at 2:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Can we fire all of these reporters? They suck.

  431. 431 Insomniac said at 2:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    https://49.media.tumblr.com/7b354501979210f06d39bd984a21bd30/tumblr_n8envbbNXX1shtqapo1_500.gif

    Howie to Chip.

  432. 432 ACViking said at 2:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    By comparison . . .

    Giants’ intro PC for Ben McAdoo lasted less than 25 minutes.

    No questions answered by anyone except McAdoo — whose response about the coaching staff was “it’s still fluid” and about the players was “everyone’s being evaluated.” Wouldn’t budge from that.

  433. 433 BobSmith77 said at 2:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Thanks. Lurie clearly overshadowed Pederson today too.

    Didn’t help Pederson seemed nervous and through out a ton of cliches.

  434. 434 Sean Stott said at 2:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s tough to speak as the #1 head honcho for your first time. I saw it recently at my company – new CEO, first presentation to the company was kinda shaky, but every time thereafter he was more and more polished. It ain’t easy.

  435. 435 ChoTime said at 3:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson’s not a CEO, that’s Lurie. Petey’s more like a middle manager overseeing accounting or something.

  436. 436 Insomniac said at 3:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Public speaking is always a pain in the ass.

  437. 437 James Adair said at 8:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Coach is COO.

  438. 438 eagleyankfan said at 2:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    hmmm, research started late in the season —- funny that also mid-way through the season — Andy gave DP the reigns in the second half — to groom him as a HC. Coincidence?

  439. 439 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:59 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Get Real… Howie started the research the day his office was moved to the other end of the building lol… You know LURIE has been in Howies ears for months “How much longer are you going to let this guy destroy your franchise”.. Lol

  440. 440 anon said at 3:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    think Howie and pederson have the same agent, wouldn’t be surprised if that worked through back channels.

  441. 441 anon said at 3:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jeff Lurie on selection of #Eagles HC. "Andy Reid had lot of influence on Doug Pederson becoming HC. @FOX29philly— Howard Eskin (@howardeskin) January 19, 2016

  442. 442 anon said at 3:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s really interesting to have started process mid-season, have 25 candidates, but in the end it comes down to “andy reid said so”.

  443. 443 BobSmith77 said at 3:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    At this point it is semantics.

    This press conference said very little today except:

    – Pederson will call the plays next year
    – They are going to hire a dir of player personnel/evaluation
    – Schwartz will be the DC (already known)

  444. 444 Nick C said at 3:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If you watched it, he really stressed that Andy was “one of many”

  445. 445 Sean Stott said at 3:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not as pithy of a tweet though.

  446. 446 ACViking said at 3:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Most glaring item for me.

    Pederson, in his first public appearance as HC and facing a hoard of media . . .

    Does NOT have a prepared text or even a note card when he steps to the lectern.

    If nothing else, prepared remarks — or written bullet points — ensures you stick to your message. And avoid brain-cramps.

    Well . . . we’ll see where things go from here.

  447. 447 jpate said at 3:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sign of self-confidence?

  448. 448 ACViking said at 3:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Could be.

    I’m a very confident attorney. Tried lots and lots of cases. Argued lots and lots of appeals.

    I’d never stand up in front of a panel of judges or a jury without some notes.

  449. 449 Crus57 said at 4:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    We both know if he obviously had a stack of notes then the press would be calling him out for having things pre-written for him and not being confident in himself.

  450. 450 ChoTime said at 3:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Or rookie mistake.

  451. 451 Insomniac said at 3:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    learning from years of listening to philly media?

  452. 452 Sean Stott said at 3:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Honestly I think that’s a stylistic thing. When I do presentations at work, I will never prepare for them, because I don’t want a talk track in my head. I prefer to wing it, but a lot of people want to have notes to fall back on. To each their own I think.

  453. 453 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Im the same way. Different strokes for different folks..

  454. 454 Sean Stott said at 3:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hehe, we already know that you’re the stream-of-thought, type, GEAGLE 🙂

  455. 455 BobSmith77 said at 3:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Really interesting point – as usual.

    You’re one attorney I would probably really enjoy grabbing a beer with (as long as you were hitting me with your hourly rate).

  456. 456 Mitchell said at 5:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    My question is, what notes would he take though? He doesnt know what questions the media will ask and if he gives pre meditated answers he looks like much more of a puppet. Personally I appreciated h Pedersons appearence. It felt fairly genuine and while I also got the feeling he was in ocer his head a bit, sometimes that’s the best place to be.

  457. 457 Mac said at 5:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Was Doug’s major Improv Acting in college?

  458. 458 BobSmith77 said at 3:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Can’t say my opinion of Pederson changed one way or another after that press conference.

    It was interesting to see him say he was going to call the plays (and take the heat) if this offense scuffles again.

  459. 459 eagleyankfan said at 3:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not everybody is made to command a media room. That’s why I’m hoping his presser isn’t an indication on how he handles the locker room…

  460. 460 botto said at 3:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    it probably is

  461. 461 Ankerstjernen said at 4:28 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Well, Chip was cocky and arrogant with the media. That did not turn out so well. Dougie here seems to at least not have an abrasive persona. Lets just try that on for size. And remember, Andy, who was beloved among his players, was freaking horrible at PC’s.

  462. 462 Nailed It! said at 3:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I did like that Pederson explained how this will be a more player driven team instead of a schematic team.

  463. 463 BobSmith77 said at 3:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    In Howie we trust . . .

  464. 464 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Trust or distrust, not like anyone has a choice,,. people are constantly growing and evolving thru different experiences. hopefully Howie has evolved for the better. I can’t stand repeating the same mistakes. Mistakes need to be used as learning experiences that you grow from..

  465. 465 Mac said at 3:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    We’ve heard that before… hopefully Pederson stands by this word. If he can do that, he’s already ahead of Chip. I liked hearing that from Chip, I hate that Chip basically lied to us about it.

  466. 466 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah but chip never meant it.. He was intent on proving his alternative style could win at this level… I don’t know if I ever seen a coach so married to a scheme s chip

  467. 467 BobSmith77 said at 3:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie’s ’25 candidates’ got inflated from Jaworski’s ’22 candidates’

  468. 468 FairOaks said at 3:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think Jaws said from 20 to 25. I do see a report of “22” but that may have been someone hearing “twenty to twenty five” and mentally just registering “twenty to” as “twenty two”.

  469. 469 anon said at 3:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson said roster decisions will be a collaborative effort. Asked who breaks the tie, Jeffrey Lurie raises his hand.— Zach Berman (@ZBerm) January 19, 2016

  470. 470 peteike said at 3:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Howie Roseman declined comment through trailing team spokesman as I chased after him. He walked out side door in auditorium.
    -McLane

  471. 471 anon said at 3:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    wow

  472. 472 peteike said at 3:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    lil JJ in Jeffrey now? uh oh

  473. 473 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Such Bullshit… If this bullshit is actually true, Id bet 99% of the time Lure willll go with Howie’s opinipn

  474. 474 RobNE said at 3:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    great to have the owner doing that.

  475. 475 Bob Brewer said at 3:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lurie taking a more active role in decisions, the key to Super Bowl champions.

  476. 476 anon said at 3:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    FO clearly a mess. But i’m sure Lurie won’t have another coach drop revenue producing players

  477. 477 BobSmith77 said at 3:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t buy it. Lure is suddenly become highly meddlesome?

    Roseman is in charge. Lurie should just have come out today – “We have a collaborative process but Roseman will be in charge while we hire a dir. of player personnel who will play an important role along with Pederson’s input”

  478. 478 Insomniac said at 3:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well he did say he’ll address this issue when he hires a head of personnel..

  479. 479 BobSmith77 said at 3:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He did and we’ll see. I just don’t expect Lurie to change his tune after doing this for a few years now.

  480. 480 ACViking said at 3:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    RS77:

    Lurie made two interesting, intersecting points (for me, at least).

    (i) He relentlessly declined to elaborate on the front office structure, saying that will come after the new personnel guy is hired.

    (ii) He very clearly said that Roseman will be held accountable, as will Pederson and the new personnel guy, for what happens with this team.

    The word “accountable” seems to have taken on a new weight in Lurie’s lexicon since canning Kelly.

    Whomever the Eagles hire in the personnel position, what I heard Lurie say is Roseman’s on the clock.

  481. 481 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Howie will certainly make the final call on personnel… Is there really any doubt?

  482. 482 FairOaks said at 3:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Depending on who we hire, sure.

  483. 483 ChoTime said at 3:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well, we have a Snyder and a Jones in the division, now we have a Lurie.

  484. 484 Mitchell said at 3:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    With Schwartz as the DC and Reich as the OC how do you feel this staff is shaping up? There’s also Fipp as ST, which I love and Undlin with the secondary. I’m pretty “meh” on Stoutland but overall it looks promising at the least.

  485. 485 anon said at 3:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    is Reich OC? I’m going to miss Shurm-dog.

  486. 486 peteike said at 3:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    not announced yet as far as I know

  487. 487 Mitchell said at 3:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Should have clarified Reich/ Shurmur as leading OC candidates by the sounds of it.

  488. 488 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Allegedly they haven’t decided on an OC yet. Ironic since media reported that we had an OC but were still waiting from an answer from Schwartz… Shows how bad the media is

  489. 489 ACViking said at 3:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Allegedly . . . ”

    The word “allegedly” means a statement for which there is, as yet, no proof.

    We just saw Doug Pederson say on camera he has not decided on the offensive coordinator.

    What better proof exists than that?

  490. 490 bill said at 3:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I bet most of the guys in jail for 1st degree murder say they had no ill-will towards the victim, too…

  491. 491 eagleyankfan said at 3:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    who would want to be OC if Doug is calling the plays?

  492. 492 TypicalDouche said at 3:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pat Shurmur is used to that role.

  493. 493 peteike said at 3:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    a lackey GM and a lackey OC, whats not to love lol. In Doug we trust…..errr I mean Schwartz?…maybe

  494. 494 eagleyankfan said at 3:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    DC – hey you — here’s the defense — you get to do whatever you want. Hey OC — I’ll take if from here…lol. I know. lots of places do that…

  495. 495 Insomniac said at 3:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jason Garrett

  496. 496 ACViking said at 3:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    An experienced, aging NFL assistant coach and former O-coordinator who’s been relegated to a position job.

    Basically, a Pat Shurmur type — which is not, unfortunately, a compliment to Shurmur.

  497. 497 laeagle said at 3:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not sure why anyone is upset over this concept. It’s in place in pretty much EVERY NFL team. Quick, who is Rex Ryan’s DC? Does it matter? No.

    The structure is not unusual nor it is a problem. The only problem would be if the play calling is bad, whoever is doing it.

  498. 498 Tom33 said at 3:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Rex’s DC is his brother Rob. What fun that will be to watch from afar.

  499. 499 laeagle said at 3:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I recall that from recent updates. But quick, who was the DC this past year?

  500. 500 Tom33 said at 4:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think it was the secondary coach (Thurman?) from the Jets when they were on Hard Knocks, but I’m not sure.

  501. 501 JoeBlow said at 4:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Dennis Thurman…I wonder what role his brother will really have

  502. 502 Tom33 said at 4:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    When it was announced, I pictured Buddy cornering Rex and saying “Rex, you know your brother needs a job ….”

  503. 503 Dave said at 3:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    After watching the press conference live, I observed one thing that really stood out…Reuben Frank and Jeff McLane have a serious personal dislike of Howie Roseman. The tone of their voice and the phrasing of their questions were somewhat combative, in an apparent attempt to bait Lurie. I could be wrong, it just seemed like that live. Oh, and phrasing your questions “the fans would like to know” is pretty shitty journalism. These guys have led the pack in attacks on the front office, don’t push it off that the fans want to know and you are just doing your job. The fans that bash the front office are being led by the media, not the other way around.

    One other journalistic observation, Jimmy K., writer of everything snarky and negative, sat there silently. Come on, you show up to a press conference with no questions at all? Journalizm!

  504. 504 Crus57 said at 4:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He was too busy on MS Paint

  505. 505 BlindChow said at 6:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    JIMMY KEMPSKI: *furiously drawing a stick figure with Pederson’s head*

  506. 506 nicolajNN said at 3:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Howie on conflict w Chip: I need to do a better job on some things. I wish him the best. Used year to gain perspective— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) January 19, 2016

  507. 507 nicolajNN said at 3:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Howie: had to look into myself, how to build better relationships— Les Bowen (@LesBowen) January 19, 2016

  508. 508 Insomniac said at 3:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Did Howie steal Chip’s soul too?

  509. 509 Insomniac said at 3:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Interesting how McLane gets no answer but Les does.

  510. 510 anon said at 3:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    aka ‘used the year to find a new head coach’ aka ‘used the year to figure out how he was going to spend his extra $$’

  511. 511 BobSmith77 said at 3:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Basically was how to get rid of Kelly. Mission accomplished.

    Lurie should come out and say Roseman is in charge. Just baffled why he refuses to do so publicly.

    I don’t have a high opinion of Roseman but he (as well as Pederson) certainly should give given at least 2 (and I argue at least 3) years to prove what they can do while they are in charge.

  512. 512 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Looking forward to start working with SAM in the spring”-Coach Pederson..

  513. 513 GENETiC-FREAK said at 3:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hmm interesting.. Tag n resign by the sounds of it.. Sam along with a draft QB il be keen

  514. 514 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yes sir…

  515. 515 A_T_G said at 3:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Will Barwin be the SAM in the 4-3?

  516. 516 Mac said at 5:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not outside the realm of possibility. I want to hear more about Frodo’s friend Sam. He wouldn’t have got very far without him.

  517. 517 anon said at 3:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Asked if he was responsible for Marcus Smith pick, Roseman said, "yes."— Tim McManus (@Tim_McManus) January 19, 2016

  518. 518 Sean Stott said at 3:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think that was clear when you saw him play decently his first game without Chip.

  519. 519 botto said at 3:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    decently?

  520. 520 TypicalDouche said at 3:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Decently = Actually recording an NFL stat.
    For MSII that is quite the accomplishment.

  521. 521 Sean Stott said at 3:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If that was his first ever game you’d say it was a good start. Hard to get going when the coach, who has a personal vendetta against the guy who picked you, doesn’t want you on the field.

  522. 522 anon said at 3:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    he’d played in several games before. But agree he should have clean slate

  523. 523 Insomniac said at 3:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Eh who cares now. Chip clearly didn’t want him and it showed on the field.

  524. 524 Telmert said at 3:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Unless I missed it – interesting that Undlin and Duce (!) were not confirmed for coaching jobs. For Undlin – Schwartz fit problems or Schwartz has a guy? On Duce – I’m betting they want to keep all three (Duce, Reich, Shurmur) and have to figure out titles and pay to make that happen.

  525. 525 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    DUCE remaining on as the RB coach… Undlin keeping his job too

  526. 526 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Did weasel Chip have his press Confrence yet? Can’t wait to hear what bullshit he has in store for those poor San Fran simpletons..
    ..
    If there is a football God, TrentBaalke will force chip and shity Charechter Kapernick work together… Must see TRAINWRECK!

  527. 527 anon said at 3:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    .@49ers will officially introduce coach Chip Kelly at a press conference tomorrow at 2 pm ET. CEO Jed York & GM Trent Baalke will be there.— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) January 19, 2016

  528. 528 Nailed It! said at 3:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    We are quite the cynical bunch after that press conference aren’t we?

  529. 529 ConcussedFB said at 3:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Listening to both WIP & 97.5 during the past couple of weeks was embarrassing for the hosts and callers

  530. 530 GENETiC-FREAK said at 3:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    In regards to Reich if he is the next OC.. Seen a few of the Chargers games this year.. Alot of their runs were from shotgun.. Their running game wasnt that good either doesnt help with Gordon fumbling.. But just the constant running from shotgun kinda irks me reminds me of Chips style of running.. Or was that McCoy the HC style?

  531. 531 A_T_G said at 3:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Don’t worry, Murray ran out of the shotgun in college…

  532. 532 myartz04 said at 3:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Is this where I come to determine how good of a coach Doug Pederson will be solely on his press conference?

  533. 533 Nailed It! said at 3:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yes

  534. 534 ChoTime said at 3:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    This is where we all complain about the media while lapping up every slimy gobbet of content they provide us (for free).

  535. 535 Mac said at 3:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’d hardly call it free. You pay with sanity.

  536. 536 ChoTime said at 3:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Making a Sanity Check

    When a character encounters a gruesome, unnatural, or supernatural situation, the GM may require the player to make a Sanity check using percentile dice (d%). The check succeeds if the result is equal to or less than the character’s current Sanity.

    On a successful check, the character either loses no Sanity points or loses only a minimal amount. Potential Sanity loss is usually shown as two numbers or die rolls separated by a slash, such as 0/1d4. The number before the slash indicates the number of Sanity points lost if the Sanity check succeeds (in this case, none); the number after the slash indicates the number of Sanity points lost if the Sanity check fails (in this case, between 1 and 4 points).

    A character’s current Sanity is also at risk when the character reads certain books, learns certain types of spells, and attempts to cast them. These Sanity losses are usually automatic (no Sanity check is allowed); the character who chooses to undertake the activity forfeits the indicated number of Sanity points.

    http://www.d20srd.org/srd/variant/campaigns/sanity.htm

  537. 537 laeagle said at 3:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    First, the alien nature of the mythos creature threatens to overwhelm the investigator’s mind. This is represented by a Horror check.

    A Horror check is a skill check based on the investigator’s Will value, as adjusted by any special modifiers. This value is further modified by the monster’s horror rating (found in the lower-left corner of its combat side). The difficulty of this check is always 1 unless the monster has a special ability that states otherwise. If the investigator passes the check, usually nothing happens.

  538. 538 Mac said at 4:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Haha, you guys are right on target. I was thinking about WOD, but these are great.

  539. 539 ChoTime said at 4:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    http://www.shirtasaurus.com/choose-your-weapon-shirt/?gclid=CjwKEAiA2ve0BRDCgqDtmYXlyjkSJACEPmdwDVARpIzdcLuREU0zxAOJpla3I59Bun0w-A-JRXQFtRoCDZrw_wcB

  540. 540 ConcussedFB said at 3:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He didn’t win the press conference, did he? What a loser!

  541. 541 BobSmith77 said at 3:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    His high water mark already. Down hill from here.

  542. 542 JoeBlow said at 3:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    610 WIP and 97.5 are probably better indicators….they already have Doug’s coaching career all mapped out

  543. 543 BobSmith77 said at 3:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Rich Kotite was a better coach!

  544. 544 ConcussedFB said at 3:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I just turned the station on and heard that! You have to laugh.

  545. 545 BobSmith77 said at 4:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Really? haha. Sports talk radio listeners are so predictable in Philly.

  546. 546 ConcussedFB said at 4:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Art imitates life. Yes, there was a caller who compared him to Kotite.

  547. 547 ACViking said at 3:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Re: Taking Pederson’s Words to the Bank . . .

    We’d like to believe what we just heard from the new HC, right? From the staff to what the team may do about Sam Bradford.

    So, on the subject of “head-coach speak” . . . here’re a few quotes from Chip Kelly’s 01/16/13 introductory press conference as the Eagles new head coach
    — covering some of the same topics as Pederson today:

    “The passion of this franchise was very, very evident. . . . I’m excited. I know about the fan base in Philadelphia, and that excites me.”

    “Anything you do has to be personnel driven. You have to adapt to the personnel you have. There’s a lot of great offenses out there, but does it fit with the personnel you have? The key is making sure what you’re doing is giving your people a chance to be successful.”

    “I’ve heard questions about “I want control over this. I want control over that.” I want to coach football. It’s a collaboration.”

    “The perception is we run our quarterback all of the time. Reality is that’s not the case. . . . I’m a huge fan of Nick Foles. He’s tough. . . . He’s a competitor. He’s accurate. And I’m excited about that.”

  548. 548 Nailed It! said at 3:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Great Scott! We have hired Chip Kelly again!

  549. 549 laeagle said at 3:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    What is so irksome is reading this after 3 years of scheme trumping players. My major beef with Kelly in the end is that a lot of the talk wasn’t backed up.

  550. 550 Nailed It! said at 4:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So much of his talk was just well talk. And the worst thing was that he showed us at time just how multiple and effective his scheme was! I firmly believe if he had expanded the offense from his first two years he would still be here. But it seems he decided to get more conservative and it is the most confusing thing I have ever seen with a coach like Chip.

  551. 551 anon said at 4:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If he had just kept the guys he had — though i liked getting sammy – maybe we’d be in playoffs.

  552. 552 Will:↑↑↓↓←→←→BA said at 4:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sammy throwing to Maclin, Ertz, Matthews and Djax?

  553. 553 peteike said at 5:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    so close to being different. CK still here with some catches and kicks, its nuts

  554. 554 nicolajNN said at 3:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I do think it’s wise to have some reservations towards Pederson’s comments, but I doubt he will let out as much BS as Chip did, then again that’s a mighty high bar

  555. 555 BobSmith77 said at 3:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You mean that new coaches used well-worn cliches in their initial press conference . . .

  556. 556 ACViking said at 3:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Exactly.

    McAdoo trotted them out time after time last week.

  557. 557 Insomniac said at 4:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I expect Chip to say the same tomorrow at his press conference

  558. 558 BlindChow said at 6:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Ah yes, the McAdoo press conference…

    http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/boy-big-man-s-suit-boots-nads-sides-14950690.jpg

  559. 559 Mac said at 4:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Journalists ask a-hole or boring questions, HC gives pat answer. Biggest takeaway from the PC is Schwartz as DC and Lurie’s rise to power.

  560. 560 Telmert said at 3:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    On play-calling: according to an ESPN article last year, only about 1/3 of head coaches in the league handle play-calling. (http://espn.go.com/blog/arizona-cardinals/post/_/id/12713/arians-is-1-of-10-head-coaches-to-call-plays)
    In general, according to the article, those teams fared poorly (only one made the playoffs). Inexperienced play caller and first time HC – I’m hoping that DPs decision to call plays isn’t something that sticks for very long…

  561. 561 laeagle said at 3:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well, at least after the first game he won’t be a first time play caller anymore.

  562. 562 anon said at 3:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Doug Pederson signed a 5-year contract with the #Eagles, per NFL source.— Jeff McLane (@Jeff_McLane) January 19, 2016

  563. 563 anon said at 3:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    5 year K on a 3-year deal?

  564. 564 RobNE said at 4:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    are you a lawyer?

  565. 565 anon said at 4:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yes, but some days it feels like i’m an eagles blocker *get’s back to work*

  566. 566 RobNE said at 4:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The K gave it away, or was a clue at least.

  567. 567 ACViking said at 4:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m still trying to figure out how to type the symbol for pi and delta, when the subject turns to plaintiffs and defendants

  568. 568 Insomniac said at 4:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    if you have windows you can use the built in character map.

    hit your windows key and search for charmap. you’ll be able to find and copy every character that exists there.

  569. 569 ACViking said at 4:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    thank you, both.

  570. 570 CrackSammich said at 4:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Google to the rescue.

    Hold the Alt key, type these numbers:
    π = Alt +227
    δ = Alt + 235
    ö = Alt + 916

  571. 571 ACViking said at 4:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Fantastic . . . thanks.

  572. 572 CrackSammich said at 4:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Apparently that delta code is inaccurate assuming you use the standard triangle capital delta. Have to use the character map like Insomniac said.

  573. 573 Crus57 said at 5:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You’d think Pi would be Alt + 314

  574. 574 ChoTime said at 4:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That means he’ll be the coach for the next five years for sure.

  575. 575 ACViking said at 3:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Question . . .

    When did Roseman answer questions?

    Post-presser in the hallway?

  576. 576 Media Mike said at 3:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Reporters were summizing yesterday that Howie needs to have his own presser later for two reasons.

    1 – to not steal any of today’s thunder
    2 – to wait until all of the front office hires are done

  577. 577 anon said at 3:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yeah was chased down by reporters while trying to make a hasty exit.

  578. 578 Tumtum said at 4:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So I haven’t been keeping up with the comments as much since last week. Been busy. So if this has been brought up before, sorry.

    I read somewhere that the Bills plan to release Mario Williams. He was a pretty poor fit for what Rex did (at least in year one). Wonder if we can get a decent deal on him in a “prove it” one year deal sort of move. Obviously, wouldn’t have any clue until a few weeks into FA period. If they could make it happen, I wouldn’t be upset at all.

    I already feel like the talent on defense is elite. I felt they were elite under Bill D until they finally broke down around Thanksgiving (even though they bounced back a bit). Sure there are holes if we don’t get back a few of the FA, but its a good base. Really wouldn’t mind letting Ced walk and dropping some sheckles on Williams.

  579. 579 anon said at 4:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    no $ if we keep brad. little money even if we don’t.

  580. 580 Media Mike said at 4:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The $ on Williams will be insane. If he doesn’t want top dollar, expect him to chase a ring in New England.

  581. 581 ACViking said at 4:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Watch out for Jerry Jones and Dallas.

    Hardy won’t be re-signed.

  582. 582 Insomniac said at 4:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Aren’t they still in cap hell?

  583. 583 ACViking said at 4:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They are.

    But somehow Hardy earned $8.8 million this season.

    If he’s gone, and with the cap increasing, I’m assuming — and could be wrong — that Dallas could find the space for (formerly) Super Mario.

  584. 584 Insomniac said at 4:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Heh I don’t think Williams wants to go to a loser team like Dallas at the near end of his career. I can see him going to the Panthers who have enough cap space and talent.

  585. 585 ACViking said at 4:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Could be.

    But do the Panthers want a quitter like Mario?

  586. 586 Insomniac said at 4:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I actually think the Panthers is the best fit for him. They’ve been winning and Williams has been on losing teams for all of his career.

    Rivera has become more of a players coach and you know that he can coach a hell of a 4-3 defense. With all the other DL talent, he’ll be able to feast on QBs like he did in Buffalo.

  587. 587 ACViking said at 4:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Agreed.

    He’d be a great fit in Carolina, assuming his enthusiasm returns.

  588. 588 Insomniac said at 4:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    IMO, he can stay the hell out of the NFC for the rest of his career unless he signs here for cheap!

  589. 589 Tumtum said at 4:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It would be a great fit for sure. He could join a team that would be on the middle to upper echelon of mediocre for the rest of his career….OR he could come get in at the ground level of the longest dynasty in football.

    I am already working on the blueprints for the Dougy P statue that will surely occupy a square somewhere one day.

  590. 590 anon said at 4:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    i think they structured it so it was ‘not likely to be earned’ or something like that. Howie-level cap management.

  591. 591 ACViking said at 4:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Anon:

    You’re spot on.

    Hardy could have been easily cut at any point with little cap consequence.

    If Mario wants to go to a cap-squeezed team, seems like Dallas has come up with — or at least made more public — this 1-year trick.

  592. 592 Tumtum said at 4:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He had a pretty rough year. Just spit balling, but I could easily see him turning down a long term contract he doesn’t like for a 1 year prove it. He had a pretty good year under Jim… stranger things have certainly happened.

  593. 593 Insomniac said at 4:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    How are you going to sign Cox and Williams?

  594. 594 Tumtum said at 4:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Williams is on a 1 year show me. So Cox isn’t even an issue at that point. Hopefully we can get Vinny on a nice back loaded deal and he will be pretty cheap this year.

  595. 595 Insomniac said at 4:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He’s too much of a star to do a show me deal. Even Demarcus Ware didn’t do that.

  596. 596 Media Mike said at 4:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m sorry I missed the free agent o line talk before.

    My 2 (3) cents.

    Mitchell Schwartz for RT.

    Pick 1 journeyman level guard from this list

    http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/guard/

    No on Incognito. He’s a bad locker room guy and I don’t want him here with a first year coach.

  597. 597 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Brandon Brooks, Amini Silatolu, J.R Sweezy, Jeff Allen, Kelechi Osemele, Cameron Fleming, Mitchell Swartz, Cordy Glenn, Bobbie Massie, Donald Stepheson.. Any one or 2 of these guys n il be stoked

  598. 598 TypicalDouche said at 4:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    JR Sweezy and Alex Boone would be my top 2 targets to sure up the interior.

  599. 599 D3FB said at 1:39 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Just say no to Massie.

  600. 600 BobSmith77 said at 4:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Did Lurie say they had accumulated 22,000 pages on their possible coaching candidates? Am I correct?

    Has Roseman started an intelligence-type service in the offseason? Sounds like the kind of crazy review you go through if you are have a high level security clearance.

    I thought that was always kind of a joke until a friend did that for a position at Raytheon. They interviewed his childhood neighbors and elementary teachers.

  601. 601 ChoTime said at 8:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    All this time, I thought he was spending 60 hours a week buying paper clips and whatnot.

  602. 602 RobNE said at 4:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    you guys think Peyton Manning is done after this year? How many more years for Brady, there is no slow down at all right now. He could play 4 more years. I’d guess 3.

    My neighbor says to me this morning, the story is Tom Brady is going to beat Manning so bad he will retire. I was like, how convenient when he’s likely to retire anyway. It’s like the SB rings aren’t enough they have to create extra narratives.

  603. 603 Insomniac said at 4:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It could be anytime soon. Peyton looked pretty good last year but Brady is a Patriot..so they must be sacrificing kittens, puppies, and baby dolphins to some dark god to remain successful.

  604. 604 Tumtum said at 4:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Maybe I am biased because our shitty team gave them the business, but I think the Broncos are gonna put it on the Pats.

  605. 605 RobNE said at 4:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I just don’t think Manning can throw well in Denver in Jan. (he didn’t last week) They will need their defense to play awesome. It certainly can happen.

  606. 606 anon said at 4:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I really never understood why he went to denver instead of a place w/ warm weather or a dome. It’s clear his play deteriorates in winter AND he’ll generally have home field advantage – b/c peyton.

  607. 607 Tumtum said at 4:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Probably didn’t have the self awareness to realize how bad he is in the cold.

  608. 608 ChoTime said at 8:05 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You didn’t understand when they went to the Superbowl?

  609. 609 holeplug said at 5:02 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He couldn’t throw in early Sept when it was still in the 80’s either. His arm is shot with all the neck surgeries and father time being undefeated.

  610. 610 peteike said at 5:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I live out here, all the fans were claiming there were a bunch of dropped passes in that game. I could relate. Still though, I said same thing, he was throwing some ducks out there. It just looks bad and if hes not playing well it may be too late for Brock to save them if they have to make the switch. I think Pats win

  611. 611 oreofestar said at 4:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Peyton should be done but he may be stubborn and try one more year, think Brady has 4 years left in him

  612. 612 TypicalDouche said at 4:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Aaaannndddd its official.
    ……
    Billy Davis – DT – Free Agent

    Eagles fired DC Billy Davis.

    It goes without stating, really, that Davis obviously isn’t coming back now that new coach Doug Pederson has tabbed Jim Schwartz as the Eagles’ new defensive boss. Davis’ defenses were pretty ugly in his three years with Chip Kelly. The Eagles were 30th in total defense this season, finishing 28th against the pass and dead-last against the run. Davis could rejoin Kelly in San Francisco, but the 49ers are entertaining the idea of keeping DC Eric Mangini.

  613. 613 anon said at 4:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    feel bad for him. If there was a college for teaching defense, he should teach there. Or follow DL to Tennessee.

  614. 614 TypicalDouche said at 4:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I liked Billy Davis the person a lot, he was very well spoken and seemed to know the X’s and O’s of the game. Just too bad it didn’t translate to on field success.

  615. 615 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Said it before Billy D great speaker but results show he was a bad DC before coming here.. Just like a fat personal trainer

  616. 616 Pennguino said at 4:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Me2. I liked his pressers. It is like he had the smarts but just couldn’t show it on the field. The problem I had was his inability to bench players. Not benching Bradley Fletcher was his biggest downfall. It came down to accountability. Hicks would have never seen the field.

  617. 617 holeplug said at 4:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hated the hire and nothing in 3 years changed that. He’s just not a good DC. In his defense Chip, being the control freak he is, wanted to run a pretty specific defense that I don’t think Billy was ever totally comfortable with.

  618. 618 peteike said at 5:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    might have ended his pro career. Seemed like a good guy for sure but I agree with the bad results is what mattered in the end.

  619. 619 BobSmith77 said at 4:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Why? He was given a fair shake here and didn’t do well. It happens.

  620. 620 RobNE said at 4:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    but has Cooper been cut yet?

  621. 621 Bert's Bells said at 4:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They tried to do it by IM but he has Howie blocked.

  622. 622 Mac said at 4:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    +1

  623. 623 TypicalDouche said at 4:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Unfortunately not.

  624. 624 Insomniac said at 4:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Trade Cooper to Chip for some dungeness crab.

  625. 625 TypicalDouche said at 4:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Cooper for Boldin straight up sounds good.

  626. 626 Insomniac said at 4:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t even want anything in return for Cooper. Just get him off my damn team already Howie.

  627. 627 oreofestar said at 4:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Boldin is a FA

  628. 628 TypicalDouche said at 5:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Even better, just cut Cooper outright and sign Boldin.

  629. 629 Dan said at 4:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sneak Maxwell and Murray in there too please

  630. 630 jaws80 said at 5:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    well then, if Chip was honest in his defense of Davis the past three years, then he should have no problem hiring Davis again.

  631. 631 ACViking said at 5:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    And trading the house for Sam “Franchise” Bradford.

  632. 632 ChoTime said at 8:03 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    By DVOA, the Eagles’ D is #17. They faced the most possessions and the O, ranked #26, was also bad and thus putting them behind the 8 ball with bad field position and turnovers. Also, they got smashed by injuries at LB and DB. Taking these things into account, #17 is still not good enough, of course (they were ranked #10 last year). But the offense was the problem on this team.

  633. 633 TypicalDouche said at 8:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well said and agreed whole heartedly.

  634. 634 ChoTime said at 8:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That being said, he had his flaws and I don’t mind seeing him go!

  635. 635 RobNE said at 4:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    what’s the holdup on OC, does Reich have multiple suitors like Schwartz?

  636. 636 ACViking said at 4:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Play calling, maybe.

    Seems that HCs who call their own plays have either much older, retread OCs (like Reid did in Rod Dowhower).

    Or the OC is a up-and-comer like the Cards’ Harold Goodwin.

    Reich kinda falls in between those categories.

  637. 637 RobNE said at 4:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Could be. Another reason to be annoyed that Doug will call his own plays.

  638. 638 Insomniac said at 4:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m starting to think that Reich is just a rumor. Pederson did say that he’s still evaluating who’ll be OC in his conference.

  639. 639 anon said at 4:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    read: “Howie hasn’t told me yet”

  640. 640 jaws80 said at 5:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Being someone that will work so closely underneath him, thinking Pederson might get his choice of OC.

  641. 641 Tumtum said at 4:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Maybe he is torn between Shurmur and Reich.. or even another candidate that we don’t know about.

  642. 642 RobNE said at 4:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    well looking at today the biggest plus is getting Schwartz and the biggest negative is that Pederson will call the plays. Nothing against him as a play caller, I just think the more successful HC’s don’t do this. It’s too distracting.

  643. 643 Tumtum said at 4:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I dunno, lots of good coaches have called their plays too. I know Billijerk did early on and may still do it on a part time basis. I even remember him trolling the media saying he may call offense one year. Reid, Shanahan, McCarthy, Payton, etc, etc.

    Early on I think its best that he call the plays personally. In a few years after a couple rings are weighing his play sheet hand down he can turn the duties over.

  644. 644 peteike said at 4:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I thinks its shared quite often right? If Im coming in as a HC I would want to have some of that responsibility since its your ass that takes the heat.

  645. 645 GermanEagle said at 5:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You mean unlike.Andy Reid?!

  646. 646 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    McCarthy announced he is taking back play calling…as if that will solve tbeir problems

  647. 647 anon said at 7:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    he took it back midseason. They need to take a WR high, also need ILB help bad, maybe we can trade them kiko.

  648. 648 bridgecoach said at 4:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The only meaningful takeaway from Doug Pederson’s first press conference is this: He is not in charge. He looked uncomfortable in his own skin. It appears as though Jim Schwartz was chosen for him. When announcing the DC hire, he didn’t take ownership, this is why I wanted him here with me…etc.

  649. 649 botto said at 5:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    take it to the bridge

  650. 650 ACViking said at 5:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson had no notes.

    No points he wanted to make written down.

    He may have wanted to say something similar to what you just wrote.

    But, in the glare of the moment, he stood up there and winged it.

    HELL . . . Pederson thanked the Chiefs before remembering to thank Lurie!!!

    You think Pederson will have a list plays on the sidelines every week, broken down into down and distance and formation and defense?

    Of course . . . otherwise, he may forget something. And the guy’s called plays before. But he still shows up with a play sheet.

    That’s why, in your 1st appearance as a HC — something you’ve never done — you bring notes.

    So you have one less thing to worry about . . . and you can take control of the room.

    Did Pederson take control of the Room? No way.

    Lurie did, once he started answering questions.

    Go back to Chip Kelly’s or Andy Reid’s first press conference. Put aside the platitudes, they took control the room.

    Sorry to say, Pederson did not.

    He may turn out to be a great coach. Just would have liked to have seem more focus and adrenalin.

  651. 651 Mac said at 5:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Opposite of Chip is… drumroll… UNPREDICTABLE.

    Here we go!

  652. 652 Anders said at 2:51 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    “He may turn out to be a great coach. Just would have liked to have seen more focus and adrenalin.”

    Havnt we learned not to analyze anything of a coach first PC? Remember how we all loved Kelly at his first PC, because he was so anti Reid?

    Also the media was much more friendly towards Kelly in his first PC. There was no questions about why he lost to Stanford and therefore missed the chance at the Natty or other mishaps he did with Oregon.

  653. 653 jaws80 said at 5:14 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yeah. another example – he said he would evaluate the other coaching positions, no decision yet, and now he says Duce will stay. So either he forget to mention he decided on Duce already, or he evaluated Duce in the hour after the PC, or Howie/Lurie pulled him aside after the PC to tell him Duce would be staying. But i expected him to be told what staff he was to keep, so not surprised with this. I am glad he is keeping Duce and Fipp and Stoutland.

    I was buying into Lurie’s talk about being comfortable in own skin and being genuine (seemed like a sideways swipe at Kelly) and i was imagining Pederson as this completely confident/genuine/comfortable guy, kinda guy that lights up a room when enters it sort of personality (barely have heard from him before so who really knew his personality on a stage like this)
    The one thing i would say about him after the PC (even if Lurie did not mention it) is that he seemed uncomfortable in his own skin up there, but that is fine because it is such a new, stressful situation, and sure he will grow more comfortable in the spotlight…

  654. 654 ACViking said at 5:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No notes.

    That’s what you get.

  655. 655 RobNE said at 5:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    hey how do you feel about him not having notes?

  656. 656 ACViking said at 5:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    How’s the word “frustrated” sound?

    Actually . . . disappointed because it reflects on Lurie, Roseman, and Smolenski as well.

    First impressions and all . . .

  657. 657 RobNE said at 5:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I hear you. But it’s just the first press conference.

  658. 658 ChoTime said at 7:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’s because he thought Roseman and Lurie would be doing all the talking.

  659. 659 Mr. Magee said at 5:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Keeping Duce is not a good idea… Especially for Duce

  660. 660 GENETiC-FREAK said at 4:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson added that he called Kansas City’s plays in the second half of every game since Week 7. Before Pederson took over second half play-calling, the Chiefs went 1-5. After, they finished the regular season with 10 consecutive wins. Philadelphia’s new head coach confirmed he will call plays for the Eagles.

    Hmm interesting

  661. 661 BobSmith77 said at 4:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Defense, defense, defense and just enough scoring.

  662. 662 eagleyankfan said at 6:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    what were the scores at half time during the win streak? who returned from injury? who got hurt etc etc….kind of a blank statement to say he’s the reason…too many factors….

  663. 663 Insomniac said at 4:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So I went through the points scored in the 2nd half of when Pederson started calling plays for the Chiefs. The numbers used were only for the offensive side of the ball since you know..the Chiefs have a defense that can score.

    134 points scored over a span of 12 games
    Average of 11.167 points per half

    That doesn’t sound too great but I think their offense would have been different if Jamaal Charles wasn’t done for the year.

  664. 664 RobNE said at 5:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    do you know how many points were scored in the first half when Reid was calling the plays?

  665. 665 Insomniac said at 5:18 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think it was pretty similar, I’d have to check later.

  666. 666 anon said at 5:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Don’t forget that advantageous filed position.

  667. 667 ACViking said at 5:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Re: Is Roseman Really the Oz of NovaCare?

    Lurie made quite a big deal about (i) hiring a personnel guy, and (ii) holding Roseman and everyone else accountable . . . the way he held Kelly accountable, presumably.

    If Lurie was interested in hiring what amounts to a wing-man for Roseman, why even talk about it? Just make the move.

    But if Lurie’s not as impressed with Roseman’s personnel decisions, draft choices and FA signings during his reign, as he once claimed to be . . .

    Then maybe the “vote” of this new personnel guy will have more weight than the votes of Pederson and Roseman.

    Otherwise, if Lurie’s not gonna go “Animal Farm” with the new personnel guy, why even bother?

    The guy’ll be nothing but a glorified scout. Seems like a lot of noise to make for the hiring of a glorified scout.

    NOTE: The comments full of curse words disparaging Lurie as a women’s sexual organ haven’t been particularly persuasive that Roseman’s the GM.

  668. 668 anon said at 5:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sometimes you can have too many chefs in the kitchen. If you’re having a “collaboration” between 4-5 different people tells me that you don’t trust any of them.

  669. 669 holeplug said at 5:30 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    my guess is Lurie wants to do sorta what the Phillies set up currently looks like. MacPhail is the old school baseball czar with a ton of experience and relationships built up through the years but the main area he is not good at is analytics. So they went out and hired a young GM versed in that area that will work with MacPhail to rebuild the team. Howie has his strengths (cap,free agency, trades, draft pick value) but isn’t the best talent elevator so I think Lurie wants to bring in someone with a scouting background to help produce better drafts so Marcus Smith and Danny Watkins and Jaiquawn Jarrett doesn’t happen again.

  670. 670 botto said at 5:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    can Doug get something out of Bradford I wonder?
    he is the best option so keep him and draft someone too.
    look what the skins did, RG# and Cousins a few rounds later? that was bold but paid off.

  671. 671 TypicalDouche said at 5:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Those were also 2 QBs on cheap rookie deals. Bradford is going to cost a lot so it isn’t the same kind of situation.

  672. 672 botto said at 5:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    right, ok draft 2 great rookie qbs then. how’s that?

  673. 673 TypicalDouche said at 5:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That works with me.

  674. 674 anon said at 5:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    all starts w/ OL. If that OL breaks down cousins will revert, see Nick Foles. Hope they pay him a boatload though.

  675. 675 botto said at 5:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    cousins is 10 times more athletic then big nick, but I hear ya.

  676. 676 ChoTime said at 7:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah, so Cousins was recruited to play NCAA Div I basketball, too?

  677. 677 Dave said at 5:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It was bold, but definitely didn’t pay off. They gave up a King’s Ransom for RGIII and he flopped. Cousins played great against crappy teams this year and bad against good teams. The Skins are probably going to give him a big contract based on 1 real season as a starter. See how that worked out for the Rams with Nick Foles.

  678. 678 botto said at 5:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    it did pay off, because they won the division with rg3 first year, then when he ended up sucking after injury they had a guy to replace him that played well. and the crazy thing about the kings ransom paid for the pick is, what did it do for the rams? nada.
    the skins made the playoffs without the guy the paid the ransom for and the rams had to move. and still trade for a qb

  679. 679 anon said at 5:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    saw something that Det won 1 more playoff game by choosing megatron vs oakland w/ jamarcus

  680. 680 Dave said at 5:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    But they still suck and have a suspect QB, unless you view Cousins as a franchise QB, I’m not sure how giving up those draft picks was a win for them.

  681. 681 botto said at 6:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    giving the picks wasn’t a win for the rams either though.. so that goes to show how tough drafting is.
    cousins is good, its easy to say he sucked but his last 10 games were pretty sick this year.

  682. 682 JoeBlow said at 6:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    yea the Skins have two division titles and the Rams have yet to be over .500 since the trade

  683. 683 botto said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    exactly, a weird thing since it was such a big trade up with all those picks.

  684. 684 Dave said at 7:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    In his last 10 games he played bad against the Patriots and the Jets. All the other teams he was great against were bad teams with losing records. If I remember correctly, the Skins did not beat 1 team with a winning record this year at all. Not sure I would hang my hat on him. As the others have said, I hope the Skins give him a huge contract with lots of guaranteed money.

  685. 685 Cafone said at 7:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s what I remember saying when the Cowboys signed Romo…

  686. 686 daveH said at 7:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If we could beat the bad teams life wud be mo ‘betta

  687. 687 ChoTime said at 7:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    We beat the Patriots and Jets but couldn’t beat other lame teams.

  688. 688 ChoTime said at 7:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well, he’s used to working with Alex Smith, a temperamentally similar QB.

  689. 689 RobNE said at 5:16 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    ok the room seems about 60:40 in favor of getting rid of Pederson. Tough town.

  690. 690 GENETiC-FREAK said at 5:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Ayyyeee? lol Based off what? This room or press conference room??

  691. 691 botto said at 5:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    we’re from Philadelphia, we fight all choices equally

  692. 692 peteike said at 5:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Im down on the FO, not Doug. Love Schwartz pickup also. I think theres a difference there

  693. 693 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Keep Bradford and Cox and I’ll support anything, especially since I’m pleased with our new DC

  694. 694 daveH said at 7:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The Schwartz Pickup … new movie or new Ram Tough ad

  695. 695 MS said at 7:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Are you down on the front office because you think the made a bad decision?

  696. 696 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lol I wanted Roseman to be made available to the media.. I could have done without it had I known he was gonna stare at the floor the entire time and look like he was trying his hardest not to cry..
    ..
    I could Also do without all the “Trust me” from Lurie…
    ..
    Dougie started off looking as a nervous wreck, but he got comfortable and came off solid. Schwartz also came off pretty well
    ..
    Ultimately none of this crap matters, but it was a solid first impression..
    ..
    To no surprise, some media came off as classless and Bush league, but that’s to be expected by now… I would Help pay his Salary of ESPN or some National media outlet would come rescue philly fans from Trashy Jeff McLane… Wish ESPN would have poached McLane and gave us back Kapadia…
    ..
    You feel the loss of Kapadia at every eagle press Confrence, he always used what access he had to consistently ask quality questions and do his job professionally and with class. He had a way of asking Tough questions, without being a prick about it like McLane so Kapadia would actually be able to get some answers, instead of McLane who just gets into a pissing battle with Lurie or the coach, they get defensive, and we come away with no info. Zack Berman is pretty solid at asking tough questions without making it confrontational
    ..
    Hopefully Lurie and the Eagles will be a little more transparent with the front Office structure once they are done hiring Marynowitz’s replacement… ESPECIALLY Now that Lurie wants to repeatedly talk that “TRUST ME” shit

  697. 697 meteorologist said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “He had a way of asking Tough questions, without being a prick about it like McLane so Kapadia would actually be able to get some answers, instead of McLane who just gets into a pissing battle with Lurie or the coach, they get defensive, and we come away with no info ”
    This can apply to real life so much!

  698. 698 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    True that

  699. 699 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Roseman looking down showed me he was digging into his emotional intelligence..

  700. 700 Cafone said at 6:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    His explanation for the Chief’s final drive was absolutely painful.

    I am willing to give him a chance, but an inability for the Eagles to run a two minute drill will be absolutely inexcusable. I can’t go through that again.

    He better have some kind of “Special assistant for knowing how to run a friggin two minute drill like every other team in the league” or it’s going to get ugly fast for Pederson in Philadelphia.

  701. 701 anon said at 6:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    shurmur! Given how effective tempo can be and that everyone is used to running it i think it’s silly not to have a tempo package.

  702. 702 eagleyankfan said at 6:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He should never have answered the question. He should have responded with a “that’s a KC thing, we’re here to discuss the future of the Eagles. Next question”….

  703. 703 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Classless question shouldn’t have even been asked

  704. 704 eagleyankfan said at 6:31 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    agreed.

  705. 705 daveH said at 7:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well i hope that Lurie had already asked him !!!

  706. 706 RichEagle said at 9:19 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Classless was being asked how it felt not being the first choice.

  707. 707 Cafone said at 6:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You can’t highlight your experience without being expected to answer for the things you were responsible for during that tenure.

    Pederson is starting out with two strikes against him when it comes to clock management. He should be aware of that and his answer to that question showed he may not be.

  708. 708 eagleyankfan said at 6:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I didn’t say never answer. Today isn’t the time nor place. Today was about a new HC and direction of a team. That question, and answer, means absolutely nothing today.

  709. 709 daveH said at 7:23 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Cool to hear he answers questions however .. stiil. Before it becomes coaching blah blah blah

  710. 710 Greg Richards said at 6:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Called 2nd half since Pittsburgh game, meaning since he did that they were 11-1. Lost the last game, when as he was marching down the final drive he was probably thinking….

    Damn, can’t go too fast here or we might actually pull this off. I need me some Schwartz and he’s probably off the market if I’m not officially the Eagles’ HC after this game.

  711. 711 Cafone said at 6:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    good point

  712. 712 daveH said at 7:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He should invest 50K of his own money just to make he never ever has to deal w that presser

  713. 713 DanJ3645 said at 7:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    To be fair it could have been Andy’s plan, but he didn’t want to just throw Reid under the bus.

    I’m desperately hoping he didn’t sign up for on side kick is more likely than KC’s great D getting a stop

  714. 714 Cafone said at 8:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I don’t buy his answer, so I don’t think that was the plan.

    It’s not just play calling. It’s something that needs to be practiced. The team needs to be comfortable with it. The players should be able to do it instinctively. The Chiefs players did not look like they knew what they were doing out there, much like the Eagles players under Reid. Early in the drive they actually had a receiver fight to stay in-bounds for an extra yard. Spiking the ball before the 2 minute drill was not even attempted.

  715. 715 Cafone said at 8:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So yeah, that could all be on Reid, which was your point.

  716. 716 anon said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Howie talked, said he was responsible for all decisions in 2013, 14, including drafting Marcus Smitth. #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) January 19, 2016

  717. 717 anon said at 6:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Wonder if he was also responsible for all FA acquisitions.

  718. 718 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah but did you hear him say it? It sounded like he was just trying to stand tall and take full responsibility for everything, without wanting to get into specifics about who was really responsible for what… Sounded like someone who was just taking the Bullet, no matter what you asked him, I think he would have took the blame. He didn’t sound genuine about it being his fault, came off like he was trying to be the better man……. I don’t think we know anything more than we knew before he spoke… You could have asked him if he shot Kenmedy and he would have took responsibility for it…. He didn’t sound like he was Genuinly saying that it was really his fault, more of a case of “I take responsibility for anything that happened when I was the GM”.. Seemed to take the high road in all chip related issues.
    ..
    Id bet that if we asked him today whos call It was to draft Huff in the 3rd and Hart in the 5th, he would have taken responsibility for it too and in reality Howie probably saved us from chip Draftimg those two earlier in the draft , so I don’t think we really learned anything about who was really responsible for individual moves, sounded like he was going to accept responsibility for everything, didmt sound genuine to me… But in title he was the GM! So he was smart to take the blame instead of blaming chip and starting more drama. He took the blame, now it’s in the past

  719. 719 daveH said at 7:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    But we are hoping MS2 is bettrr than we think right .. hoping Chip was pissed so chip was a downpressorman on him

  720. 720 ACViking said at 7:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Lined up at RDE in this scheme on passing downs . . .

    I think — just like Colts 1st-Rd bust Jerry Hughes — MSII can have some real success.

    http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3909669/43underpettine_medium.png

  721. 721 daveH said at 8:00 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sweet insight Cowlings! Thanks

  722. 722 ACViking said at 7:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “. . . trying to stand tall . . . just taking the bullet . . . ”

    excellent take away

  723. 723 anon said at 6:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jim Schwartz wouldn't commit to 4-3, but said not gonna "force feed a scheme." Will scheme base on player strengths. #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) January 19, 2016

  724. 724 anon said at 6:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz on his D system (opposite of Chip/Davis): "it's not a read & react system. We want to attack. We want to put pressure on QB #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) January 19, 2016

  725. 725 JoeBlow said at 6:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz is very good at putting pressure on Qb’s……very happy with his hire

  726. 726 anon said at 6:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Think this is best comment. Wonder if what made Kiko / Kendricks bad is that they had to “read” first when those guys are more “reaction” guys.

  727. 727 JoeBlow said at 6:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    as you probably already know, but i feel it needs to be reiterated how well Kiko played under Schwartz his rookie year, hope the guy gets healthy

  728. 728 Insomniac said at 6:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Kiko has never played for Schwartz.

  729. 729 JoeBlow said at 6:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    your right my mistake

  730. 730 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Kiko played for Petine, he was hurt the year under Schwartz

  731. 731 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That was Petine not Swartz

  732. 732 TypicalDouche said at 6:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    On top of that being Mike Pettine’s defense, Kiko also played the MIKE backer and that position I assume would go to Jordan Hicks. IMO Kiko will be playing the WILL position.

  733. 733 Insomniac said at 6:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    but but they both suck at it.

    Kendricks can’t read but he can react
    Kiko can read but he can’t react.

  734. 734 TypicalDouche said at 6:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Kiko can read?. Listening to him speak you would think he is only capable of reading Dr. Seuss picture books.

  735. 735 anon said at 6:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    1more Schwartz: mentions Cox, Thornton, Curry, Barwin, Graham. "Those guys all fit that (attack) style. They're attack players." #Eagles— Martin Frank (@Mfranknfl) January 19, 2016

  736. 736 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If im not mistaken, doesn’t he usually employ Zone Schemes for his Secondary?

  737. 737 Insomniac said at 6:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    if that’s true then there’s some good zone CBs in the draft..

  738. 738 JoeBlow said at 6:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    everything from man, zone to man under

  739. 739 ACViking said at 7:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not accurate.

    Here’s an article discussing Schwartz’s mixed-coverages approach — as well as all other aspects of his defense — to Rex Ryan’s scheme.

    http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/1/13/7536851/rex-ryan-jim-schwartz-buffalo-bills-defense-donnie-henderson

  740. 740 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Thornton?? Not a name i would have thought of attacking.. No mention of Logan

  741. 741 Insomniac said at 6:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Washburn kept Thornton when he was here.

  742. 742 Anders said at 1:43 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Thornton was seen as a 1 gap player coming out and choice is as an udfa because of Washburn

  743. 743 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:27 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Chip Kellys San Fran press Confrence is tomorrow

  744. 744 eagleyankfan said at 6:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’ll be must watch TV..lol

  745. 745 Insomniac said at 6:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Chip is just going to regurgitate what he said here in his first press conference. The niners fans are going to be the same as we were before everything Chip-related turned sour.

  746. 746 eagleyankfan said at 6:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    “Gone, per a source with knowledge of the situation, are offensive coordinator Geep Chryst (pictured), quarterbacks coach Steve Logan, receivers coaches Adam Henry and Ronald Curry, secondary coach Tim Lewis, defensive line coach Scott Brown, defensive assistants Ejiro Evero and Aubrayo Franklin, and offensive assistants T.C. McCartney and Joe Scola.”
    …..
    that’s from profootballtalk (I’m not responsible for their corrections) …. as side humor — I wonder if anybody in 49’er land is yelling racism….

  747. 747 Insomniac said at 6:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It’ll come. I’m just wondering what new things could be said about Chip Kelly.

  748. 748 Insomniac said at 6:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I know Pederson didn’t want to own up to it today but he DOES have terrible clock management. You were 14 points down in the 4th quarter. and you go on a 5 minute long drive with 6 minutes left? I’m sorry but giving the ball back to Brady (who’s still up by 7 points) with a minute left in the game doesn’t cut it.

  749. 749 eagleyankfan said at 6:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    hopefully he learns from mistakes….

  750. 750 Insomniac said at 6:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    3rd coach’s the charm right?

  751. 751 Cafone said at 6:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s what we said about Andy Reid, then Chip Kelly was even worse. Why is it so hard to find a coach that does a little self scouting and is able to see what’s obvious to half the fans and every wannabe sportswriter with a blog?

  752. 752 Sean Stott said at 7:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I can see the logic behind it. You are two TD’s down, and with the time left you legitimately only have an opportunity to possess it twice. That means your penultimate drive (the one in question) needs, absolutely requires you to get a TD. You can’t do anything without getting a TD on that drive, so get it right. They did that, and still had timeouts to work with.

    It all comes down to the onside kick, and they knew that. They weren’t going to kick off normally to Brady and let him score again, because that’s game over.

  753. 753 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:46 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Was it confirmed that Greg Lewis is the new WR coach?

  754. 754 TypicalDouche said at 6:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Not yet. Last I heard they were bringing him in for an interview, haven’t heard anything on the topic since.

  755. 755 Greg Richards said at 6:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I haven’t even heard that. Eskin said he was a possibility, but i haven’t seen anything about an interiew.

  756. 756 A_T_G said at 7:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    In all likelyhood, he won’t catch the plane after security jams him at the line.

  757. 757 ACViking said at 7:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    LMAO!!!

  758. 758 daveH said at 7:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Ha NICE.. was trying to make a funny but i fail. You make good funny.

  759. 759 TypicalDouche said at 7:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    You sir win the internet today.

  760. 760 A_T_G said at 8:45 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I showed this exchange to my wife. She said the comment about winning the Internet always bothers her, “You don’t WIN the Internet.”

    “No, YOU don’t win the Internet.” I replied. So, looks like I’ll have more time to read Iggles Blitz for a while…

  761. 761 EaglesGameBalls said at 10:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I would love greg Lewis as a wr coach. Bring avant here too!!

  762. 762 GENETiC-FREAK said at 6:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Rams wanting to interview Shurmur

  763. 763 ACViking said at 7:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jeff Fisher trying to re-discover the “Nick Foles Fountain of Greatness”?

  764. 764 Fufina said at 6:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I am pumped for Schwartz’s defense but i was pretty depressed by some of the press conference.

    I don’t like the fact Pederson will be calling plays.. get a good OC to do it and manage the game and your team well.

    I didn’t like him saying Peters and Celek were players he looked forward to working with… Celek’s $5mil is an extravagance we really cannot afford, but i suspect he will be kept around as a bridge to the old Andy days.

    And i especially did not want Bradford retained… and Pederson seems quite positive about him.

    All that adds up to letting some guys walk in FA and nothing to really spend to replace them. Hope Howie/Personnel guy come tap Pederson and say sorry we need to go shoot some old dogs out back.

  765. 765 A_T_G said at 7:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Could he have been buttering up Celek and Peters before they are approached about a pay cut? “Hey guys, the new coach really wants you here, but we can’t afford to pay you like you are 5 years younger.”

  766. 766 ACViking said at 7:11 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson . . . Good Cop.

    Roseman . . . Bad Cop.

  767. 767 Andy Six Score and Four said at 9:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Reid..Good Cop

    Banner…Bad Cop

  768. 768 Greg Richards said at 7:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Don’t worry about PC platitutdes. They’re going to talk positively about everyone, including guys that they will jettison in a few weeks.

  769. 769 Cafone said at 7:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Pederson has to be positive about Bradford if we are going to get someone to trade for him after we franchise him.

    Here’s the plan: http://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-should-let-sam-bradford-go-not-without-compensation/

    It makes sense, so I assume it is also what Howie Roseman wants to do.

    Isn’t that nice? With Howie Roseman back in charge we as fans can go back to predicting what the Eagles will probably do by “what makes sense”

  770. 770 RC5000 said at 7:32 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Schwartz didn’t come here for a rebuild.

  771. 771 Cafone said at 7:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I’m fine with Schwartz making the Eagles D devastating while the offense Hinkies us into some decent draft picks.

    Who knows? After a few years of that, Schwartz may be offered a head coaching gig… with the Philadelphia Eagles.

  772. 772 ACViking said at 7:42 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Can’t make Bradford play here if he doesn’t want to.

    But if that’s what the Eagles want, then I hope Bradford’s on board.

  773. 773 ChoTime said at 7:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Ha, that’s funny. Making sense will be refreshing.

  774. 774 Media Mike said at 7:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    As far as what today’s presser actually meant

    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b6/df/a5/b6dfa51e3d7ace9b4e3936cfc151b9a9.jpg

  775. 775 anon said at 7:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    A little sad to see tempo / spread offense leave. I think that’s a mistake offense put up huge numbers for 2 years. While it undoubtedly needed some tweaking it was way more effective than what we’ve seen elsewhere.

    I would laugh if Shurm and Bradford go back to STL.

  776. 776 ACViking said at 7:24 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    No more St. Louis.

    Sunny SoCal . . . where Sam’s look would fit right in.

    But there may be some bad blood between Bradford and Fisher.

    Also Bradford and GM Les Snead.

    But probably not any problems that a 5-year $100MM contract couldn’t cure.

  777. 777 EaglesGameBalls said at 10:15 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I am so happy chip kelly offense is gone

  778. 778 ACViking said at 7:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Great article breaking down how Schwartz’s approach compares the Rex Ryan’s.
    http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/1/13/7536851/rex-ryan-jim-schwartz-buffalo-bills-defense-donnie-henderson

  779. 779 ACViking said at 7:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Re: Jim Schwartz Playing Money Ball — NYTimes Profile

    Back in 2008, NYT sports reporter Judy Batista wrote an interesting article exploring Schwartz’s use of analytics.
    http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2015/1/13/7536851/rex-ryan-jim-schwartz-buffalo-bills-defense-donnie-henderson

    Schwartz is Georgetown grad w/ and Econ degree.

  780. 780 Cafone said at 7:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It sounds like Schwartz would be appealing to Howie Roseman.

  781. 781 ACViking said at 7:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    FIXED.

    Thx

  782. 782 Andy Six Score and Four said at 10:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Great link. Thanks!

  783. 783 Telmert said at 7:34 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Eckel is reporting that the Eagles want both Reich and Shurmur – whichever one doesn’t get the OC job will be offered the QB coach job. With DP planning on calling plays, they could get neither. Shurmur rolled the dice 3 years ago hoping to ride the Kelly offense to another HC job. Didn’t happen, but he still probably raised his profile from where it was then. Staying now would be a step back – moreso if he’s concerned with how DP will do. The LA Rams situation is less than ideal, given the QB situation, but is better than here for him. Reich has a much shorter resume and seemingly fewer options, but I would expect he’d also hold out as long as possible to try and land some place where he could improve his profile. As others have posted previously, both have been listed on lists of future HCs, and Reich in particular had been a hot name for a while.

    Possibly the first test of the new regime. Are they willing to lose both candidates and go all in with DP calling plays, finding another OC willing to babysit, or will the FO push him to give up play calling?

  784. 784 TypicalDouche said at 7:35 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Well being that Shurmur is under contract he has no choice in what position he is given under the new HC.Reich could outright decline the job, but Shurmur is in a tight spot.

  785. 785 ACViking said at 7:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    TD:

    New icon. Nice.
    ______________

    Shurmur’s been a loyal Eagles’ soldier for 13 years.

    I’d like to think Lurie would let him go to the Rams to be a real offensive coordinator.

    ‘Cause there’s no way Shurmur’s gonna raise his profile by staying here not calling plays again for another 2-3 years.

  786. 786 TypicalDouche said at 7:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Thanks buddy, you can never go wrong with a Spaceballs reference.
    ….
    As for Shurmur I tend to agree with you that if DP doesn’t name him the offensive coordinator that Lurie would release him from his contract. I am in the thinking that Pederson, Lurie, and HW are doing homework in regards to Bradford and seeing if keeping him paired with Shurmur is the best fit.That is all opinionated though so let’s see what transpires.

  787. 787 Dave said at 8:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    One nice thing about both Reich and Shurmer is they both have extensive experience with the no-huddle offense. Reich also spent years playing behind Jim Kelly in the K-gun offense in Buffalo. Pederson could use some help when the 2-minute offense takes the field. It’s seems odd that Andy never developed a no huddle hurry up offense in all these years.

  788. 788 eagleyankfan said at 7:27 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Guess Eckel was wrong.

  789. 789 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:32 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Leave NJ.com fairytales alone

  790. 790 ACViking said at 7:53 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Re: Speaking of 1st Rd Busts

    In 2010, Colts GM selected TCU DE Jerry Hughes 31st overall in Rd 1. But after 2 seasons, Hughes had just 1 sack and was certified a “bust.”

    Then in 2013 and 2014, after joining the Bills, Hughes racked up back-to-back 10 sack seasons (for Schwartz and Pettine).

    Marcus Smith II . . . just 1.5 sacks after two seasons. Pretty much a Jerry Hughes-sized bust.

    Well, maybe lined up at RDE in this kind of defensive formation, Smith will have a Jerry Hughes-sized comeback.

    http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3909669/43underpettine_medium.png

  791. 791 Sean Stott said at 7:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I think there is room for him in the RDE rotation. Brandon Graham does pretty well on the left side, and I almost think he prefers it?

  792. 792 GENETiC-FREAK said at 8:01 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Thats the 4-3 under right?

  793. 793 TypicalDouche said at 8:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    This could turn into mirror image of careers. The Colts drafted Hughes to play OLB when he was a college DE and his career resurgence came when moved back to DE. Marcus Smith going back to DE and just attacking without worrying about any coverage responsibilities can have the same kind of impact. Great reference AC, very spot on.

  794. 794 ChoTime said at 8:25 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So, about Pederson and the media–just kidding, who cares! Let’s talk about my man Bradford.

    One way to look at last year was that he started off rusty after being out of football and in a new system. His second half, where he ascended to average performance, is taken as a sign of progress. Optimism being what it is, we assume that he will continue to progress. He will get better, more comfortable; we will get more talented at OL; we will get him more help at WR. Overall, he will play better, get us more wins, and his numbers should improve.

    That’s the optimistic scenario.

    There are other, equally valid ways to look at it. We can’t ignore that keeping him on this team will be a huge chunk of change for a player whose career performance, in a contract year, no less, was way below average. We can’t forget that this is a man made of glass who has spent most of his adult life in the training room. Last year was an anomaly in this regard. As for progress, is it true that when a player plays well in the 2nd half of the year, that it carries over to the next year? Or is the bulk of his career the more reliable data set? I know where I’d put my money, if forced.

    Can we guarantee that OL will be better next year? Our LT is getting old and is irreplaceable. Our once-promising C may not be nearly as good as we thought. In any case, it will probably take 2-3 years to turn over the line. Do we have any evidence that it will all of a sudden turn into a decent unit next year? Is there even the talent to do that?

    What about the WR? Will spending all offseason on the JUGGs machine teach them how to be good, all of a sudden? Or do we have to spend more draft picks to try again?

    Do we hope that Chip was such an inept coach that he successfully masked the talent of the entire offense and that the addition of a new, non-weird coordinator will cause us to be good?

  795. 795 anon said at 8:37 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Have to remember that bradford was re-habbing most of the offseason. Only started taking full reps at TC, barely played preseason. New system, new receivers, bad OL. I doubt many Qbs would have done better given the situation.

    As an organization if you’re unsure about what S.B. brings – it’s partially your fault for not doing a great job evaluating while he’s here. But option is to tag him. What i do know is that this team hasn’t had a better pure passer probably ever, and hasnt had quarterbacking this consistent since McNabb. People act like the next AR is right there if you just draft a qb in the first or second rounds, i think they’re fooling themselves, especially with this crop of QBs.

  796. 796 ChoTime said at 8:44 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    As to your first point, in 2011 Peyton Manning had a terrible neck injury which caused him to miss the entire season. The next season, going to an entirely new team, he didn’t skip a beat, putting up his best QB rating in 8 years and winning 13 games. I don’t have any evidence on how to judge Sammy’s lack of reps and time away from football.

  797. 797 anon said at 8:49 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Interesting you’d use PM as your point of comparison. It’s so hard to compare that it’s barely worth exploring, but Peyton had a full offseason + with his WRs, including private summertime sessions, and whose offense do you think he was running? Look at the caliber of the offensive weapons.

  798. 798 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:55 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Peyton also had several more years under his belt at the time. Playing for coaches other than Jeff Fisher.

  799. 799 ChoTime said at 9:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Right, it’s hard to compare, but they are the ones offhand who missed a whole year and then came back. The point is not that Peyton performed better (of course he would), but just trying to see what effect missing a year and having traumatic injury would have or not have.

  800. 800 anon said at 9:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    SB also missed 2yrs basically (2 of his first five which i’d argue are key developmental years)

  801. 801 BlindChow said at 9:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Also, neck injury vs. torn ACL.

  802. 802 Jernst said at 10:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Peyton missed an entire season but was finished with rehab long before OTAs when he finally returned and was playing in the same system he had played in for over a decade. So slightly different situations.

  803. 803 bill said at 8:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Some additional questions – is an elite LT a necessary or even likely asset to a SB team? What was the Carolina Panthers’ OLs like the last few years vs. what they were this year? What changed? Are 1st and 2nd year WRs likely to be only what they have been, or is there reason to believe that players can and do get better the longer they are in the league? Is there any reason to believe that planning to start a season with Sanchez as your #1 is going to retard the development of your receiving corps, no matter who they are? Is it worth it to start a 3 + year rebuild when you have a dominant DT entering his prime, or if that’s your plan, should you just get rid of him and hopefully get an asset and cap room to get younger players that will be around when your rebuild (possibly) starts to bear fruit? If you’re placing all your eggs in the draft basket, should just Hinkie it?

    Finally, and perhaps most importantly, is any “data set” we can use actually something that has a confidence level greater than a flip of the coin, scientifically speaking? There’s a really good article about garbage science and the “power pose” idiocy that came out today that is worth reading for those who think putting numbers to their biases makes them scientific.

  804. 804 ChoTime said at 8:48 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    All excellent questions and I’m glad it’s not my job to answer them.

    As to your second point, yes, QB performance can be analyzed to a much higher level of confidence than a coin flip. Besides kicker, it’s the one that operates most independently of the rest of the team. Perhaps now I point out references Hofstadter’s book on anti-intellectualism in American life.

  805. 805 bill said at 8:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So, QB performance is replicable under exact conditions where sufficient variables have been accounted for? Anti-intellectualism? Nice ad hominem. Glad you went there, because it shows your understanding of the issue. Perhaps you should be working in the Wisconsin crime labs – they have a similarly shallow understanding of the scientific method.

  806. 806 bill said at 8:56 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    This might be helpful in understanding that blindly accepting some cobbled together correlations as “scientific” is perhaps the very definition of anti-intellectualism (I have plenty of other examples, but this is timely):

    http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2016/01/amy_cuddy_s_power_pose_research_is_the_latest_example_of_scientific_overreach.html

  807. 807 ChoTime said at 9:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sorry, chap, I took your ‘power pose idiocy’ line as a shot across the bow and thus informed you of the existence of a very interesting book about a directly relevant subject.

    Nevertheless, your central argument, ad hominem in kind disregarded, is a straw man.

  808. 808 MagSaysWHAAT? said at 8:54 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Love your last line.

  809. 809 bsuperfi said at 10:47 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The term “scientific” gets thrown a whole lot in sports talk. Chip said it about his methods. Some bloggers or media folks or whoever say their analyses are scientific. But what does this mean? There’s well done statistics and poorly done statistics, but is the the same as good and bad science?

    My short answer is no. Any scientific inquiry is about building an argument from data using reason. Certain data make more sense than others given the questions you’re asking. Certain questions can yield answers with higher levels of certainty than others.

    So what does this mean for football? There’s no simple scientific inquiry in this kind of sport. Everything’s entangled. It’s a lot more like doing social science than, say, a natural science. The data are soft and fuzzy, so we need lots of it and different types of it to triangulate. I tend to think there are some people on this board who are especially good at it, even though most probably aren’t formally trained scientists.

    Sorry to geek out here. It’s just an issue I think about a lot and it’s nice to be able to contribute something every once in a while.

  810. 810 Greg Richards said at 8:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Jim Trotter reported that before the season, Bradford’s agent asked for $25M a year from the Eagles. I really want whatever drugs Condon is on. How about this: You were pretty good the 2nd half of the season. Let’s say that was worth $25M a year. You sucked the first half though. Let’s call that worth $0 a year. So, meet at $12.5M a year and call it a day?

  811. 811 oreofestar said at 8:59 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    If he wants that much money (which would be the highest of any QB in the league annually) he can go eff himself

  812. 812 scratcherk said at 9:04 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    zero chance. franchise him and pay him 18. buy time to figure out what to do.

  813. 813 Insomniac said at 9:07 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    https://media.giphy.com/media/eXQPwwE8DFTZS/giphy.gif

  814. 814 GENETiC-FREAK said at 9:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Bradfords agent n who else he represents

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Condon

  815. 815 ACViking said at 9:29 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    As I’ve written before . . .

    Condon, Bradford’s agent, is the Steve Boros of football.

    Balls to the wall negotiator.

  816. 816 Anders said at 1:36 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Demanding 25 mill is not negotiating, that’s saying he does not want to be here

  817. 817 Media Mike said at 4:52 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Scott, but point taken.

  818. 818 ChoTime said at 9:20 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Hm, your math is off, even bad QBs are getting 1-2M a year!

  819. 819 Greg Richards said at 9:36 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Okay, say a really bad one makes $1M a year. Then that averages out to $13M. I’d do a 3 year, $13M a year, pay as you go, nothing guaranteed deal.

  820. 820 RC5000 said at 11:06 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s not how it works in the NFL . You don’t pay 13 million a year without guaranteed money.

  821. 821 ChoTime said at 8:50 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Even I would jump at that, and I am far from a Bradford fan.

  822. 822 ACViking said at 9:26 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    When a player has about $50 million in the bank, and maybe doesn’t want to be in a particular city, he can tell his agent to ask for $25 million.

    Exactly why the Rams fleeced the Eagles.

  823. 823 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    It seems like only 3 teams are in the QB market- LA, NYJ, and Houston. If he wants to leave I think the Eagles should just tag him and force a trade.

  824. 824 Anders said at 1:38 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Not sure I would call a 2nd round pick for fleecing when it’s the trade price for even average qbs. Then it’s just market price

  825. 825 ACViking said at 9:33 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Questions …

    Who is leaking this information?

    What’s their agenda?

    Why now?

  826. 826 Donald Kalinowski said at 9:58 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The Eagles could franchise him for 2 straight years for less money.

  827. 827 FairOaks said at 11:40 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    That’s basically a I-want-to-see-how-this-year-plays-out kind of asking price. He may have wanted to see what playing under Kelly was like and if he wanted that long-term. That’s a pretty obviously facetious price to ask when coming off 1.5 years away and two ACLs.

    Question is more what he wants now… and even then, he may want to see how the OC shakes out. The guy probably most wanted two years in the same system, and he’s not going to get that chance this year anyways.

    But yes, this will probably not be an easy negotiation, to say the least. When Foles gets $24 million over two years… with half of it guaranteed… Bradford will get a lot more. Even Chase Daniel (backup in KC) had a $4.8 million cap hit this year. Only QBs at a paltry $1 million are basically on rookie contracts. On the other hand, it doesn’t do Bradford much good to ask for more than the franchise tag, unless they know the Eagles won’t go there.

  828. 828 Media Mike said at 4:52 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    He’s welcome to ask for that, but the landing spot for Bradford is $18 mil /year.

  829. 829 Ray888 said at 9:08 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Report of Rams’ interest in Shumur is understandable if they think Shumur can get the best out of Foles as he did 3 hrs ago. It could save the trade and big contract investment that the Ram’ made for Foles.

  830. 830 jpate said at 9:12 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    They should of got Bill Lazor

  831. 831 BlindChow said at 9:21 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Unfortunately for them, Shurmur was also there in 2014.

  832. 832 Ray888 said at 9:57 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    in LA, Rams’ will be looking to make a splash and sell tickets. They could even see Shumur as a way to sign Bradford as a free agent. If that were to occur, they would have Bradford, Foles & an additional second pick; Eagles’ would have basically nothing from the trade.

  833. 833 BlindChow said at 9:59 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Signing Bradford and Shurmur would sell tickets?

  834. 834 Ray888 said at 10:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Everything’s relative- Bradford is a bigger name than Incumbent Casey K. & Bradford could be the major-name free agent QB this off season.

  835. 835 EaglesGameBalls said at 10:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Save the trade? Are you kidding me?

  836. 836 Insomniac said at 9:17 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I guess we’re drafting a QB since Bradford wants to get paid. Bye Bradford you were a preseason legend.

  837. 837 EaglesGameBalls said at 10:13 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    He is just too risky. Too much money to risk and he is going to ve done. Not worth risk

  838. 838 Dragon_Eagle said at 9:39 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    We got Schwartz!!! We got Schwartz!!! (Yes, I’m just seeing this news now). Best news since, well, um….in a really long time.

  839. 839 BlindChow said at 9:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/NFL_Memes/status/689638150520578048

  840. 840 anon said at 10:09 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The Eagles are expected to move Kiko Alonso to weak-side linebacker in new coordinator Jim Schwartz’s 4-3
    It’s where Nigel Bradham amassed 104 tackles in 14 games for Schwartz in Buffalo in 2014, and where DeAndre Levy notched 119 tackles across 16 starts for Schwartz’s Lions in 2013. Alonso was a big disappointment in his first season with the Eagles, causing just one turnover and finishing 49th among 60 qualified inside linebackers in Pro Football Focus’ grades. Still only 25 years old, Alonso is a decent bet to bounce back under Schwartz in 2016.

  841. 841 anon said at 10:10 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So excited to see what this defense could be like under Swartz. Chip Kelly might have just been the GM we needed to churn this roster..

  842. 842 Mitchell said at 10:28 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    I would assume Hicks would play MLB which is exciting in itself but who plays the SAM? Kendricks? Is there still confidence he can cover and shed blocks? I hope a change of scheme will do wonders for him.

  843. 843 Tdoteaglefan said at 11:22 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Yeah thats interesting ive heard some suggest that he would be the SS. Not sure if his cover skills would be good enough for that..its intriguing though. Im already looking forward to this offseason to see how everything shapes up

  844. 844 D3FB said at 1:17 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Whoever told you that is a fucking moron.

  845. 845 BreakinAnklez said at 8:25 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

  846. 846 the midatlantic said at 11:41 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    And spare a thought for poor Connor Barwin…

  847. 847 Media Mike said at 4:51 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Kendricks is way too short to play SAM. Here is your SAM prototype.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/E/EmmoCa20.htm

  848. 848 Media Mike said at 5:01 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    That seems wrong to me. Kiko needs to be in the Emmons role at SAM given that Kiko is 6-3 and we need somebody with size to cover TEs in that spot. Kendricks needs to be the run and hit guy at WIL and Hicks needs to play the MIKE spot.

  849. 849 Anders said at 5:06 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Agree 100%. Also use Barwin as LEO type player

  850. 850 eagleyankfan said at 7:21 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    “The Eagles are expected” — is that from you or is that printed somewhere else?

  851. 851 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:29 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Leave the NJ.com fairytales alone… Kendricks is the WIL

  852. 852 Donald Kalinowski said at 10:38 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Sam Bradford saw the Doug Pederson hiring and probably thought to himself “Fuck this I don’t want to be the next Alex Smith”.

    Houston has Bill O’Brien and they seem like a QB away from being a great team. St. Louis is moving to LA. That might a good place for him to be the face of the franchise. Maybe having Shurmur there might entice him.

    If I’m the Eagles FO, I retain him. Franchise him if that’s what it takes. If he wants to leave he can do so via trade. NYJ, Houston, or LA can give us their 1st round pick.

  853. 853 BreakinAnklez said at 10:43 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    The same LA that fleeced us is now so desperate they are going to give us a first round pick?

  854. 854 BlindChow said at 12:18 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Probably the same 2nd round we gave them.

  855. 855 Donald Kalinowski said at 6:13 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Bradford is healthy. The team is moving to LA and needs to generate excitement. Bradford is the only good QB on the market.

    Plus that was a decent trade for Philadelphia

  856. 856 BreakinAnklez said at 8:23 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    I honestly can’t tell if this is a joke or not. If LA actually wanted Bradford, they would not have gotten rid of him in the first place!

    How did we come out on the winning end of that trade? We gave up a 2nd we still don’t have an answer at QB. Is it possible we trade Bradford, sure, but it sure won’t be to the Rams!

  857. 857 Greg Richards said at 11:50 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Peter Schrager
    ‏@PSchrags

    3m3 minutes ago

    A late night rumor for the Philly crowd. A name to watch for Doug Pederson’s offensive staff: former Browns OC John DeFilippo. @NFLonFOX

    Peter Schrager
    ‏@PSchrags

    3m3 minutes ago

    A late night rumor for the Philly crowd. A name to watch for Doug Pederson’s offensive staff: former Browns OC John DeFilippo. @NFLonFOX

    Eckel mentioned this as a possibility earlier although it seemed like he was just speculating due to DeFelippo being from the area.

  858. 858 Greg Richards said at 11:51 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    Mike Garafolo
    ‏@MikeGarafolo

    31s31 seconds ago

    Eagles will hire former Browns OC John DeFilippo as QB coach, sources tell me and @PSchrags. From Manziel to Bradford (maybe).

  859. 859 Greg Richards said at 11:52 PM on January 19th, 2016:

    So, Reich OC, DeFelippo QB coach, and Shurmur free to go to LA?

  860. 860 Fufina said at 12:31 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Now they are in LA and with a ‘fresh’ fanbase they might actually be able to get away with resigning Bradford with Shurmur as the OC. Call it a homecoming and a return to the flock etc.

  861. 861 Greg Richards said at 6:46 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Franchise him and get our 2nd round pick back from them.

  862. 862 Joe Minx said at 12:19 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Very nice.

  863. 863 RC5000 said at 12:49 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Chip interviewed him for OC , he recruited him when he was at UNH.

  864. 864 anon said at 12:56 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    but wasn’t browns offense sort of terrible? manziel’s numbers sucked, the other dude’s numbers were good but he’s been good in several schemes. just can’t believe they didn[t roll with shurm dog.

  865. 865 RC5000 said at 1:01 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    This is a very intriguing addition to Pederson’s staff. Under DeFilippo’s tutelage, several Browns players had career seasons. Wide receiver Travis Benjamin finished the year with 966 yards and five touchdowns, well eclipsing his career numbers in both categories. And tight end Gary Barnidge burst on to the scene last season, racking up 1,043 yards and nine touchdowns. And while no one seemed to have any luck withJohnny Manziel, Josh McCown was on pace for a 4,000 yard passing season before his injuries.

    This should be good news for whoever ends up in the quarterback room next year, be it some combination of Sam Bradford, Mark Sanchez and/or a new addition via draft or free agency. Raiders quarterback Derek Carr has also credited DeFilippo, or “Flip”, with helping develop the young signal caller (hat tip to BGN’s own Ben Natan for the info). From Cleveland.com:

    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/1/20/10795966/john-defilippo-quarterbacks-coach-browns-doug-pederson-frank-reich-eagles-browns-raiders-derek-carr

  866. 866 Dude said at 2:13 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    I would have been happy with any numbers, regardless of how bad they were, out of Manziel. He is essentially a great big child, with a bit of a coke habit. I imagine coaching him was much like tutoring an engineer who didn’t study until the day before his finals.

  867. 867 BreakinAnklez said at 8:21 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Pretty sure Browns had their best offense they’ve had in several years this year, statistically speaking.

  868. 868 BreakinAnklez said at 8:34 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    I know he was in discussion for JMU’s HC job two years ago and again this year after Everette Withers bolted for some bottom feeder FBS school.

    Here’s a blurb about his case for JMU job.

    John DeFilippo: Cleveland Browns offensive coordinator

    DeFilippo – a former James Madison quarterback – has spent most of his coaching career in the NFL with the Giants, Jets, Raiders and Browns. Now DeFilippo needs a new job – Cleveland head coach Mike Pettine was fired last week – and the 37-year-old is wasting no time trying to find one.

    Cleveland.com reported that DeFilippo interviewed for the vacant head coaching position with the San Francisco 49ers and for the St. Louis Rams’ offensive coordinator job.

    Despite the Browns’ 3-13 record, DeFilippo’s pro-style offense produced some of the best statistics in team history. With a revolving door at quarterback – including the polarizing Johnny Manziel – the Browns threw for 4,155 yards, fourth-most in franchise history.

    With his interest at an all-time high, it seems a longshot that DeFilippo – who expressed significant interest in the JMU opening two years ago – would go back to the college game.”

  869. 869 GENETiC-FREAK said at 1:58 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Last article from the Chip Wagon
    http://chipwagon.typepad.com/eagles/2016/01/where-did-it-all-go-wrong.html#more

  870. 870 Dude said at 2:36 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    That blog does a terrific job of explaining what Chip was trying to do… trying to do. Glad that he recognized the flaws in execution vs. scheme was Chip’s fault either way.

  871. 871 Media Mike said at 4:56 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Does anybody have any solid links as to “WHY” folks are pedaling this “Bradford doesn’t like Philadelphia” line of garbage that’s out there. I know Peter King referenced it, but I haven’t a single credible / specific element to that line of commentary.

  872. 872 sonofdman said at 7:33 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    There was that one time when he rubbed his beard when the media was trying to get him to profess his undying love to the city of Philadelphia.

  873. 873 Dave said at 7:35 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    No drama, no page hits. No negativity, no page hits.

  874. 874 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:27 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    Gullible morons make shit up

  875. 875 RobNE said at 8:26 AM on January 20th, 2016:

    new thread up