Staff Almost Set
Posted: January 20th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 462 Comments »Doug Pederson announced Jim Schwartz as his DC on Tuesday. Today the Eagles announced most of the rest of the staff.
Here's the Eagles' full staff of assistants: pic.twitter.com/d6zyYlXJxU
— Jimmy Kempski (@JimmyKempski) January 20, 2016
If you want bios on the staff, here are the PE.com notes.
I’ll offer my thoughts on the different groups. First up, the offense. Frank Reich is a solid choice to be the OC. Reich has played in and worked in multiple offenses. He has a lot of experience with QBs who audible. That sounds like it will be a key element for Pederson and the Eagles offense.
Reich is probably also a good fit in the sense that he’s not new to the NFL, but also isn’t so old that he’s very set in his ways. He will work with Pederson to do whatever works with the Eagles personnel. I think bringing back Stoutland, Peelle and Staley is smart. Stoutland developed Lane Johnson into a good RT. He did good things with Andrew Gardner prior to the injury last year. Even Dennis Kelly showed some flashes. Peelle had Zach Ertz playing at a high level last year. Staley is a coach the Eagles are very high on. They just didn’t think he was quite ready to make the leap to being a head coach.
Greg Lewis is an interesting choice to coach the WRs. He was a backup in college and carved out a role for himself in the NFL. Lewis is the kind of overachiever that often makes a good coach. He coached in college and just started working in the NFL this year. That might be an issue, but his 8-season playing career wipes out the need to grind away for years. He could turn out to be an excellent coach.
There were reports that John DeFilippo would become the Eagles QB coach. He was the Browns OC this year. He has coached in college and the NFL and has a pretty good reputation.
I like the defensive staff quite a bit. I love Schwartz as the DC. He runs an attacking defense and is a veteran coach who can run the defense all on his own. Ken Flajole is a good LBs coach. He has been a DC in the league before. Tim Hauck played in the NFL for more than a decade and has coached in both college and the NFL. I think it was smart to bring back Undlin. Eric Rowe played pretty well this year. Ed Reynolds and Jaylen Watkins showed promise.
There is no DL coach yet.
I like the staff because it is an interesting mixture of coaches. You have someone like Phillip Daniels who is trying to start his coaching career working alongside veterans like Schwartz and Flajole. You have Eugene Chung as an up and coming coach learning from Stoutland. Chung worked in Philly under Howard Mudd and one of these days will be an OL coach himself.
These coaches have some familiarity with the players. Chung coached Kelce, Peters and Kelly when he was here before. Schwartz coached Ced Thornton and Brandon Graham in the Senior Bowl. Flajole coached Malcolm Jenkins for a season in New Orleans.
The biggest thing that sticks out to me is how many of these coaches are former NFL players.
Daniels – 15 years
Pederson – 14 years
Reich – 14 years
Hauck – 13 years
Staley – 10 years
Peelle – 10 years
Lewis – 8 years
Chung – 5 years
Compare that with Kelly’s staff. You had Duce and Peelle, That’s it. I’m not saying one is right and one is wrong. I just think it is interesting to see such a stark difference in the 2 groups.
Pederson might be new to being a head coach, but his staff has a ton of experience as players and/or coaches. These guys know the NFL.
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Did you watch Dave Spadaro’s interview with Schwartz? Good stuff. This got me excited.
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The Eagles officially released Bill Davis today. I think he is an good guy and has ability as a coach. He’s had some really tough circumstances in his NFL career. In SF, he helped head coach Mike Nolan rebuild the defense. They were awful, but Nolan really ran the defense. Davis had limited power.
He then ran the Cardinals defense in 2009 and 2010. They stuck with the scheme that Clancy Pendergast had put in place.
Davis came to Philly and finally got 3 years to run a defense. The problem is that he was running the scheme that Chip Kelly wanted (3-4, 2-gap). He also had to deal with the up-tempo attack and the effects that had on his defense.
Davis is not nearly as bad as some of his detractors would make him out to be. That said, his results aren’t good.
I have to imagine Davis will lay in bed thinking about 3 things from this year. His defense was ranked pretty high before a few things happened. First, Jordan Hicks got hurt. That had a huge impact on the defense. Sam Bradford got hurt. The worst games came with Sanchez at QB. When the offense struggled, the defense had no chance. Finally, Davis made the decision to move Malcolm Jenkins out of the slot in the TB/DET games. If those 3 things were different, who knows what kind of season this defense might have had.
I’ll always be grateful to Davis for giving me the 2014 shutout of the Giants.
27-0
Heaven.
Good luck, Bill. I hope things turn out better in your next stop.
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no DL coach yet huh. Schwartz absolutely adores Washburn. Called him the best position coach (or maybe DL coach) of all time in his interview. Wonder if he is blacklisted in Philly. He obviously has a great relationship with Schwartz. So as crazy as it sounds I’d actually be ok with his return. But I don’t know what his current situation is.
Graham wouldn’t be ok with it though
but remember how Washburn had his group separated from the rest of the team- . He seemed to try to create a division in the defense and calling Juan Juanitta, didnt get along with the rest of the staff other than Mudd. Doubt Lurie would want anything to do with Washburn in this new emotionally intelligent culture Lurie wants.
Jim Washburn is headed to miami, expected to be a senior defensive assistant coach working with the defensive line.
His son is going as well to be on the offensive side.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2016/1/20/10800664/dolphins-add-jim-washburn-to-defensive-coaches-jeremiah-washburn-as
I want nothîng To do with Washburn, but I would have probably been a dick too if I were him and you saddled me with an OL coach for a defensive coordinator to work under
Yeah, I really don’t like him. But he’s had incredible success under Schwartz. Sounds like a moot point though.
“Pederson might be new to being a head coach, but his staff has a ton of
experience as players and/or coaches. These guys know the NFL.”
I feel a lot better about the Pederson hire now.
yeah that is a very good coaching staff.
AND WE KEPT FIPP, YEEEES!!!
https://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/fipp_dave_1_.jpg
“get excited, obey”
If Davis has no other options perhaps he can coach the D-Line? That is the one area on defense that performed well and players like Thornton,Logan,Cox and Curry improved as players under Davis.
Azzinaro gets more credit for the DL than a defensive Coordinatir
Remember when Ed Wang and Eugene Chung where both on the team? Good joke and good times.
(It was Patrick Chung.)
Upvoted to support Asians in the NFL and everybody having fun tonight.
I posted a few days ago regarding my hesitation towards Schwartz due to his perceived “dickiness.” However, after the interview, he seemed like a very articulate and experienced coach and I am really really excited about him handling the D. I specifically enjoyed his statements about not being worried about yards but cares far more about points, RZD and 3rd %. Amen to that Schwartz.
I am glad you came around on his dickiness and are excited to have him handle the D.
He’s a smart guy – got his degree in Econ from Georgetown and played Linebacker, which is is one of the most cerebral positions
I like having a Prick for a DC… Jim Johnson was a mean old bastard and I adored him for it
I think most of us actually saw that as a feature, not a bug.
Unfortunately, if you give up too many yards, you can still have people saying you have the worst ranked defense. And some people will believe it!
ditto the good luck to Davis. Just way too hard to be the DC on a Chip team, and this fact overshadows Keeping Rowe on Calvin Johnson. Or maybe not. Just glad to get a DC who says the system he runs is “attack”.
Davis always struck me as a decent guy with an incredible voice and a talent for explaining things. Time for TV, methinks. Can’t be worse than Phil Simms right?
Brilliant idea. You should talk to his agent.
VIDEO: Jim Schwartz talks about his defenses…
https://streamable.com/5s6x
(thanks to the person who posted this here or over at BGN)
Outstanding
I’m not saying Schwartz can’t fail here as DC, but he won’t fail for a lack of intelligence, explaining or excitement/heart.
Awseome..thanks for sharing
Indeed. And the person that posted the link that I bookmarked and posted.., many thank goes to them.
Interesting article:
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nfl-coaches-are-getting-away-with-crimes-against-middle-school-math/?ex_cid=story-twitter
Two examples last week where teams should have gone for two.
One thing I hope Pederson keeps from the Chip era is the strong emphasis on special teams. I enjoyed having an elite ST unit for a change, literally won us games a few times.
Fipp remaining in place is a great sigń… Would have hated to see chip take Fipp to San Fran
It has been cool, although it’s kind of rough when it’s your best unit and you are relying on it to win you games. I wonder why Fipp has been successful and Bobby April flamed out here. Maybe it’s about the type of players we have.
I think the quality of players had almost everything to do with it. Fipp is probably overrated here because Chip really did give him a lot of top end specialists to work with. Not that Fipp is bad, but he can quickly become April if he’s given the talent to work with that April had here.
agreed, for me it’s the players until proven otherwise.
I don’t know if Reid gave as much roster spots to ST aces like Chip did, but he hired a great ST coach in Toub. Pederson didn’t have to hire one, there was a good coach already in place. But still, at least from a coaching staff perspective, Pederson learned from Andy that ST are important.
Not sure if anyone has ever mentioned this but is there any possibility we could move Celek onto the Oline for the twilight years of his career(Tackle or Guard). 5mil is a lot for a TE that we will likely not use very often going forward, but is that a lot to pay for an Olineman?
I know there are cases of College TE’s making the switch to Oline(we have the best example on our own team) and Celek is known league wide as a blocking TE(and not just in the running sense, because we’ve kept him in plenty to help our porous oline at times).
Not sure how viable this is, but just something that’s been bugging me for the past couple of months. Could work out to be a win-win?
You would be asking Celek to put on 40 pounds of good weight in the next 4 months in order to be on the line. Chip blocking as a TE isn’t exactly the same as being on the Oline.
The best example, JP, was already an Olineman with TE ability…Not exactly the same… Celek doesn’t have OT ability, and he’d get murdered playing guard. Do you think BC could take on the Cox’s and Suh’s that play DT?
He’s playing outside the tackle, and helping on the line…
Umm, has there ever been an example of this happening at the NFL level? The reason it happens in college is because those kids are still growing.
Never happened in the history of the NFL as far as I know (except maybe when players played multiple positions). Not going to happen here. This is quite a bit of a reach.
Peters, but that happened right away when he came into the league.
Example …
Steelers moved 2x SB starting TE Larry Brown to OT, after 6 years, in 1977.
Brown then spent 8 seasons at OT, starting on 2x SBs. Even making the Pro Bowl.
During the early steroid era
When I read “[n]ever happened in the history of the NFL…” I pictured a search light shining ACV onto the clouds above.
Steroids are a hell of a drug.
I’m not saying it something we should do nor do I think it’s something that would be a simple move. I just wasn’t sure how feasible it would be and I do know celek is an exceptional blocker as a TE(we’ve kept him in plenty to pass protect, not just chip block)
Didn’t realise how much weight he’d have to put on. But thanks for the info!
I like the creativity, but would echo the other folk’s comments on Celek. I think he fits better here as is on a steep salary reduction as a blocking TE.
Tome, this sounds like when someone tells you their friend has a really fast Camaro that they fixed up and they should race it in a NASCAR event. It is a totally different scale and order of magnitude difference.
Unless you personally put Celek on a Samoan Diet….uh NO!!!
But Celek was a crappy blocker this year.
hahahahhahahahahhahahhaha
NO.
Celek is 6’4 260.
So because of his height he would only be a G.
So he would have to add 40lbs of muscle. In 8 months. And play a position he’s never played before at 31.
Yes occasionally college TEs transition to OL in the pros. But it’s typically because they are 6’5+ and are at least 275. You can take a 22 year old stick him in the weight room for a year and have something that relatively resembles an OL. Then teach him how to block like an OL. It’s a 1-3 year project.
Peters was a 6’5 330lbs TE in college. He was an OL he just wasn’t a starter so they used him at TE.
im kinda liking the idea of not re-signing bradford and just spending money on defense and OGs. But of we sign chase daniel.. just cut sanchez at the same time.. ill be happy no matter what at that moment.
If we don’t have Bradford here next year, we need to have a tag and trade worked out.
We also need to limit the number of guys we sign. Dream Team III isn’t going to be an ideal way to build a long term winner. That $ needs to be spent on our own guys who are ready for long term deals.
Hmm, a 29 year old, 6′ undrafted QB leading the team with less than 500 career yards passing. I’m sure that would work out real well. I imagine he would easily command the respect of the team with his excellent pedigree and NFL record.
After Bradford who else could be available? I’m asking to try to value how sure we can be that there will be interest.
Cousins and Bradford are the only starters from this list. Brock O and Fitzpatrick will most likely be starters next year due to lack of other viable options. Sam will be in very high demand considering at most, 4 QBs will be drafted to be starters for their teams.
Sam Bradford, Philadelphia Eagles
Matt Cassel, Dallas Cowboys
Jimmy Clausen, Baltimore Ravens
Kellen Clemens, San Diego Chargers
Kirk Cousins, Washington Redskins
Chase Daniel, Kansas City Chiefs
Ryan Fitzpatrick, New York Jets
Matt Flynn, New Orleans Saints
Bruce Gradkowski, Pittsburgh Steelers
Matt Hasselbeck, Indianapolis Colts
Chad Henne, Jacksonville Jaguars
Tarvaris Jackson, Seattle Seahawks
Josh Johnson, Buffalo Bills
Thad Lewis, Philadelphia Eagles
Luke McCown, New Orleans Saints
Colt McCoy, Washington Redskins
Matt Moore, Miami Dolphins
Dan Orlovsky, Detroit Lions
Brock Osweiler, Denver Broncos
Matt Schaub, Baltimore Ravens
Drew Stanton, Arizona Cardinals
Scott Tolzien, Green Bay Packers
Mike Vick, Pittsburgh Steelers
Joe Webb, Carolina Panthers
Brandon Weeden, Houston Texans
Charlie Whitehurst, Indianapolis Colts
T.J. Yates, Houston Texans
Wait, Joe Webb is available? our problems are solved.
forgetting Joe Webb for a minute, it seems like the other somewhat decent QB’s won’t be on the market. So that will increase his value, which on the plus side makes a trade easier but on the down side raises his price (making a trade harder) and making it harder if we want to re-sign him to a long-term deal.
I agree. Cousins and Fitz will probably be resigned. Brock is an unknown value (at least outside of Denver). I can see both Denver and the Texans making a serious run at Sam. They are quality teams that will need a QB and are closer to his home in Oklahoma. If Denver goes after Sam, that tells you all you need to know about Brock.
If Sam goes somewhere else, any draft compensation for him would most-likely be used to move up in the draft for Wentz/Goff/Lynch. The Browns and the Cowboys at 2 and 4 will almost certainly take a QB in round 1. That means you’re either trading up to #1 overall, which will be more than what we get for Sam and our #13, #3 overall, which again would probably be our #13 + any Bradford comp picks, or most-likely have to still trade up to get the 3rd QB on the board.
Bottom line, if Lurie/Howie/unknown personnel guy/Doug believe it’s better to have Sam + all our draft picks, they will pay him. I just can’t think of a scenario where we sit put at #13 or trade down farther and still get a potential franchise QB.
Lurie has banged the drum very loudly that without a franchise QB, you will be unable to compete for a Superbowl.
Denver has a lot of issues after this year — tons of quality FAs be interesting to see what happens.
Did they finally approve the trading of comp picks? Havn’t seen a story on that….just that it was likely but not final.
That list makes me think QBs are going to be severely overdrafted this year. If you like a guy, you’re going to have to draft him “early” compared to the received wisdom.
Not many teams need QBs Texans, (Jets are staying w/ Fitz, Skins are staying with Cousins), SF, Browns – but there’s also not many good prospects.
But even with the Jets, I could see them grabbing a “QB of the future” relatively early. Fitz isn’t a spring chicken. Giants could certainly look to draft one early to succeed Eli and be McAdoo’s “guy.” Bengals could be a surprise player, as could KC.
Wouldn’t even surprise me to see Hackenburg drafted at the end of round 1 (Steelers maybe).
Brilliant…. Our ceiling can be the Texans, awesome!….I can’t wait chase Daniels and Cardale Jones QB battle, a fucking dream come true…
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We should sigń MIke Vick while we are at it
nah, id rather draft trevone boykin than cardale jones
Awesome, Trevone Boykin? LOL that’s like saying Id rather get stabbed in my Neck, than Shot in the head..
Not IMO, since i think boykin will be a good QB.
Marcus Hayes, cementing his status as a dope (along with Reuben Frank)
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20160121_Eagles_at_least_should_have_interviewed_McDermott.html
I think I’d rather we just not have local media. The small benefit seems outweighed by the negativity.
[…] Staff Almost Set – Iggles BlitzReich is probably also a good fit in the sense that he’s not new to the NFL, but also isn’t so old that he’s very set in his ways. He will work with Pederson to do whatever works with the Eagles personnel. I think bringing back Stoutland, Peelle and Staley is smart. Stoutland developed Lane Johnson into a good RT. He did good things with Andrew Gardner prior to the injury last year. Even Dennis Kelly showed some flashes. Peelle had Zach Ertz playing at a high level last year. Staley is a coach the Eagles are very high on. They just didn’t think he was quite ready to make the leap to being a head coach. […]
Day 1: Greg Lewis addresses the WR corps. “Catch the ball” — Slow clapping at first. Then the rest join in. JM slaps his own forehead(v8 moment). Then they all stand and clap in unison. Few other coaches tear up. Best. Meeting. Ever.
In the back of the room, Josh Huff attempts to clap behind his back and then under each thigh in rapid succession. After initially looking like he would succeed, he trips himself, stumbles, and spills the snack cart. Later that day, he is seen packing up his locker while humming, “If you are going to San Fransisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair…”
Scott McKenzie reference?
Kelly’s out there now.
With a new explanation.
Last season when Lurie (aka Ricky) showed up and said, “Lucy (Chip) you’ve got some splainin’ to do.” It didn’t end well.
A little over an hour ago I would have had no idea who that was. I knew the song but not the artist.
Scott McKenzie was his stage name. His real name was Philip Blondheim. John Phillips gave him the name using his daughter’s name for the last name.
Do they have a pro volleyball team in SF? Because Huff definitely has some skill at setting up the ball.
Can’t possibly do worst than Bicknell
Seems pretty solid. Surprised to see they kept Stoutland, we’ll see on that one.
He has a lot of respect of the lineman. They evidently spoke very highly of him.
I’d rather the other teams respect our linemen. 😉
yes, it’s a one sided story(and theory) … but there are facts on the timeline that are true. The reasons why Josh McDaniels was never considered as a HC this year: http://www.milehighreport.com/2016/1/20/10793696/josh-mcdaniels-head-coach-patriots-broncos … that goodness he’s not here…..
He has Super Bowl rings so he must be good!!!
After spending years being up close to the Great Tom Brady, this genius thought Tebow was a first round franchise QB… Nuff said
Evidently Josh thought he was such a good coach he could teach him how to not only throw the ball with accuracy, but also read defenses.
I think my favorite part was him getting busted for taping the team — a la Beli-Cheater…
Yeah that was definitely awesome and a confirmatipn that the Patriots were cheating POS
Vrabel needs to have a long talk with Billy Davis before he takes that San Fran DC job
I want nothing to do with other teams free agents, UNLESS we are talking about quality players from KC that Doug Pederson knows well, for example, I wouldn’t hate it if Thurmond walks and we end up with Eric Berry :)…. Although I would assume KC extends him before letting him hit FA
Not sure if it would make sense to drop the kind of $$ it would take to sign Berry considering the holes on the roster and contracts we need to give out soon.
Only place i want to shop in FA is for a quality OL addition… and only really 1 guy at that.
Focus on retaining our core talent, and extending the 2013 draft class.
Doubt he leaves KC, and I wouldn’t feel comfortable paying big money for someone who had Cancer a year ago… What an awesome can’t miss safety he turned out to be…
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We should sigń Eric Weddle just to piss my man media MIke off 🙂
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Total agreement, sigń one quality Guard, and gracefully bow out of the free agent shopping.. boone would be nice just to take him from Chip
Hodgkins lymphoma has a 95% five year survival rate if caught in the early stages and a 60-85% if caught in the latter stages. Im going to assume Berrys was diagnosed early due to his swift recovery. Hodgkins is luckily a very “curable” form of lymphoma, so much so that if you had to pick a cancer to have, this would be one of them.
You hit the nail on the head. We have six to eight core guys that should be resigned or given extensions in the next 12 months:
1) Fletcher Cox
2) Vinny Curry
3) Lane Johnson
4) Zach Ertz
5) Bennie Logan
6) Malcom Jenkins
7) Ced Thornton
8) Sam Bradford
This list will not be cheap. Not sure how much is left for anything above mid-level free agents.
Well Ced has to walk in FA. no way he is worth to the Eagles what he is worth to a 2 gap 3-4 team. I am on the Bradford needs to walk because i totally agree on retaining those first 6 guys.. and we will not have the $$ to do that if we bring back Bradford.
How many 2 gap 3-4 teams are there? I can see Thornton taking a discount to stay where he is.
good think about having a bomb dc is that people might take a little less for the chance to play w/ him. might need to lock cox up before season starts b/c his numbers may be bananas next year.
Washburn saw something in Ced to keep him here for the wide9
Schwartz already said he likes Ced…think he coached him in a senior bowl…
I want to know what the plan is for the OL? Remain in zone blocking scheme? Switch to POWER Blocking scheme?
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I want to know what the plan is for the safeties? Stick with converted CBs and remain in the Mirrored Safety looks? Or switch to traditional Strong and Free safety tandem?
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jenkins is awesome in Coverage, WOULDNT mind an Enforcer at the other safety spot. We need to add some ferocious HITTERS to the defense. And if we aren’t playing a 3-4 anymore, Safeties will have to start helping in run support… Id love to Bring Thurmond back, he can start anywhere in our secondary.
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Roseman has failed miserably evaluating Safeties, Id prob feel more comfortable keeping thurmond and Jenkins, instead of asking Roseman to find good safeties
Schwartz matches up more than Kelly and seems to favor any kind of safety.
Well Howie was hardly the guy doing the evaluations.. he just takes what other people have scouted and combine that into grade and then how the draft falls dictates how things go from there..
If we are going to play a fair bit of wide 9 then it will be interesting how they decide to go with the safeties.
What happened before was that the safeties were so important in run support their focus was always run and we got burnt again and again and again off play action. And i am not sure the best way to resolve that. Do you go get a big SS and leave him in the box, play a LOT of nickle with 1 deep safety? Do you focus on our LB’s to keep the run contained, get 2 safeties to focus on the pass game and try and profit off the passing game with picks and sacks and accept you will give up some 8-9 yard runs that you could have stopped for 5?
Depending on the philosophical answers Schwartz wants to go with will effect how player acquisition will go.
The problem in 20011 and 12 was Juan Castillo had no clues about the wide 9.
Schwartz was the guy with the Titans who invented its use as sort of a hybrid between 4-3 and 3-4, see the video linked here where he talks about it:
http://igglesblitz.com/2016/01/staff-almost-set/#comment-2469459375
The purpose of one (important only 1) DE in wide 9 (often the strong side DE), is to spill everything inside to your strong DTs and fast LBs.
Oh i agree we will be a lot better with it, although that is going to be partly because 2016 Cox and Logan will be far far better than 2011-2012 Eagles were.
How you deal with run where the offense is going to be able to regularly get OL on the 2nd level on the linebackers is and always has been a problem. There is no simple solution to that. Looking at his previous rosters Schwartz has dealt with it lots of different ways, and it will be fascinating to see how he deals with it with the Eagles.
Even our linebackers are a bit on the small side for the wide 9. Lots of athletic guys, we need guys who can engage a lineman and plug a hole. Might need to keep Barwin at LB for the size as much as anything.
I’d love an enforcer at a traditional SS position. I do think the wide 9 was really misused when it was here before, but it can create some added stress on the LBs and safeties. Having a S who can competently rock some gap responsibilities (on top of being an intimidator in coverage) would be key.
I would be ok with the OL scheme going either way. Lane and Kelce are the only ones who are really sticking, and only Kelce would be an imperfect fit in power. So, if that’s what Pederson wants, that’s fine. But I tend to just like zone schemes better, and we know that both Lane and Kelce are suited for it (even with the OL implosion/injuries/lack of depth this past year).
Thing with SS’s these days is they are pseudo linebackers, with slot CB and Dime CB’s taking any real coverage responsibilities away from them. Now we have 3 (on paper) talented LB’s who maybe will be able to return to top form as they recover from injury. Do you want 2 of them off the field on passing downs? Or do you want to rotate out your SS on 3rd and long to keep 2 LB’s on the field?
Consider also that Jenkins really isn’t at his best as a deep safety.. he is a lot better coming down and covering guys in the slot or TE’s, and playing underneath in coverage.
Really good points. I hadn’t thought too much about the LB rotation.
As far as Jenkins goes, I like him a lot, but I don’t see him as a piece you build around. If I’m drafting a safety high, it’s with the scheme and talent as the most important factors – not what Jenkins currently can do. Again, I really like Jenkins and think he’s generally underrated. But he’s not someone I’m building my scheme around.
Agreed.. You can’t even really call the 2012 Eagles defense a Wide 9.. The DL coach ran a Wide 9 And the rest Of the staff seemed to have no idea how to compliment the wide 9 DL… When Schwartz opts to line us up in the 9 Technique, you can bet he understands what the ILBs and DBs need to do to compliment the wide 9… Those Eagle defenses were a mess, and they would have been a mess no matter what schemes they decided to run. Not a good indication of a well run WIDE 9…. All coaches say that they will tailor their schemes around their players strengths, but some like Chip are completely full of shit. Schwartz on the other hands has used so many different defensive schemes throughout his career that I actually believe him when he says that the defense wilL be dictated by players strengths and that he won’t try to jam squad pegs into a round hole
Interesting thing, in the discussion Pederson had with Spuds, he mentioned moving his WR’s around a lot pre-snap. Specifically mentioned moving slot guys to the outside, WR to tailback etc. Couldn’t help thinking about Huff and Matthews. And Sproles, and Ertz.
Damn Chip you loaded up with all these guys who can line up anywhere and you never did it because that would be too hard for your pro football players to pull off.
When I think about the play calling this past season, I form an image of my 8-year old stomping up the stairs to his room and me calling him back down to try again until he does it correctly. Except Chip did it while the house was on fire.
he was like the white guy version of a tiger mom.
Hrm, let’s keep this in perspective: tiger momming works… just maybe not as well in America, land of the brat!
I suspect there is a middle path to take!
People like to say that Chip is a good coach and a bad GM. That may have been true in 2013, but the 2015 Eagles practically exhibited all the signs of a poorly coached team
It probably was too hard to pull off if you are running tempo all the time.
Am I the only one more excited about Schwartz than Pederson. Maybe he should have been the HC.
No, you are not, but I would be much less excited about Schwartz if he were the head coach.
yep maybe this is the best. Pederson can do his intangibles stuff and Schwartz can be our new JJ.
Pederson can suck for a few years as the Eagles rebuild then Schwartz can be our new Buddy. (after Pederson gets fired)
Bud Carson stuff. JJ and Emmit Thomas were very good at containment D. Schwartz, assuming he gets a couple guys he favors, likes physical, mauling D. Remember when Brian Billick went to Baltimore? Pederson is NOT BB, and Schwartz does NOT have an all-pro, Ozzie Newsome-built roster, but the touted OC won a SB with Trent Dilfer at QB. I’d settle for that.
This 100%
I think this works well two ways. We get a top-notch DC and, if he gets another HC gig, Flajole should be ready/available to step up.
I see him getting another HC gig… in Philadelphia.
Yes
Wait, there are people who are more excited about Pederson than Schwartz? That doesn’t seem right.
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Schwartz was a largely a disaster in Detroit. If he is the head coach in 2 or 3 years (even in as interim role), this team will have really fallen on hard times.
in fairness no coach has been able to make that situation work.
Oh not at all. Schwartz is a very exciting hire, a coach with attitude. Pederson has a steady, even temperament, which might be what the Eagles need right now but is the opposite of exciting. But who knows, Pederson may outperform Hue, Gase, Koetter and McAdoo, the other promoted OCs in this class. But look at that list. Gase was hyped, but aside from Hue it wasn’t a very exciting class of potential HCs.
who do you all like on Sunday?
Broncs, cards
broncos – i think all 18 matchups of brady vs manning has gone to the home team.
panthers – not a lot of national love all year but the team is legit.
Cards D is just as good and their O should be way better. If Carson plays like himself now that he has the post season monkey off his back, I think it could be a pretty locked up affair.
The most telling thing is a buddy of mine from Carolinas thinks they aren’t great and says everyone he knows down there thinks the same thing.
Interestingly to me, Footballoutsiders now has Carolina as the clear Superbowl favorite. (not the same thing as saying they will win, of course)
I live in Charlotte and they are certainly drinking the kool-aid down here. Although, they’ve been doing so since preseason and I don’t know if it counts as kool-aid if they are legitimately good.
Maybe my buddy is jsut self loathing.
Playing out in the snow with my kids.
Pats and Panthers.
Pats have a real QB and have a great front 7 to shut down the run. Manning cannot carry a team anymore = Pats win.
Play from Palmer and Cards in general has dropped on in last 3 weeks… think Cam gets the job done.
I agree with you…but Denver’s MVP is Wade Phillips (most valuable person), and Denver could win despite Manning.
I would like Cards and Broncos to win. I think that Panthers and Pats will win. There’s probably a paper in there somewhere about the psychology of an Eagles fan.
As long as it’s not the Patriots winning then I don’t care. I got someone to cheer for on the other teams.
Cards – Fitzgerald
Panthers – McDermott/Cam/Thomas David
Broncos – Peyton/DT/Ware
until the Pats are losing with 0:00 on the clock I’ll always think they are winning the SB. Until Brady retires.
Can we set up a kickstarter for Bernard Pollard to fall into his ACLs again?
Cards. I’ve liked Arians since he was HC at Temple.
I’m so pumped for our defense this year.
Cb1 Maxwell(Actually played pretty well last year despite his horrendous tackling) ss Thurmond ( unless we get a prototype ss I’m happy with Thurmond in this roll). Fs Jenkins (obviously :)) cb2 death Rowe. Nickle Carroll/shepperd. (Thurmond can play this role if we get a legit ss type. Sam lb barwin (we need a big lb who can take on blocks and rush the passer. Can be a backup de in rush situations. Mlb Hicks (he’s a little small for this but barwin should help him stay clean. Wlb Kendricks (no one frustrated me more on defense last season but he’s locked in for a while and hopefully he can learn to fucking cover someone with his insane athleticism) rde curry (will be a beast in a 4-3). 1 gap dt cox (defensive mvp of the league) 2 gap dt logan (dude was so good until he got injured last year. Most understand injury of our season. Lde Graham (not too happy about Graham from last year but I think he could thrive in this scheme.
That’s a legit defense without adding any rookies yet. Don’t want any free agents unless we let curry and it Thurmond walk. I think barwin is vital to this team. Oh yeah and unless he gets his explosion back kiko can walk for all I care. Dude was a scrub last year.
Thurmond isn’t a lock to be here. We can hope but it’s far from a lock. I too am way pumped as well. Doug will know his teams strength and attempt to control the ball. If Chip only saw that this team really could still be playing.
Yeah I realize kempski and the rest of the media all of a sudden think the talent on this team is bad. I think hey are fools who were screaming “championship” this past summer. What is different about this team right now from then?
More data than last year. It didn’t trend so well, as you’ve probably read.
I love this staff so much. Maybe it’s because Dougy P is an Andy clone. It really feels like the staff Reid had before everyone was vultured. Ever since… I dunno Sean M was fired, I haven’t felt great about the staff (not that I know anything). Everything with Kelly was wait and see. Andy was desperate at the end of his run.
I almost love the Chung signing more than anything. I feel like Stoutland is gonna be a hot commodity and could leave. Chung will slide right in.
Greg Lewis should really give these young guys a great new perspective. Greg to Riley ” your 6′ taller, 3 seconds faster and twice as strong as me. Why am I still better than you, and I am wearing a whistle?” He won’t say it but… He might.
Goes on and on. The only real concern I have is that Schwartz wants his own team and that is gonna be an annual head ache.
You can be damn sure that if the defense plays well and the offense stinks then the Schwartz for HC chants will somehow start pouring on at the Linc.
I’ve already started.
Yes I expect Schwartz will be very popular here. Aggressive and feisty. Hope for the team’s sake that Pederson and Reich build a good enough offense to keep those chants from happening.
I hope Greg says nothing to Riley cause he’s off the damn team.
The Philadelphia Eagles defense is a 4-3 attacking defense. Thank god we’re finally getting back to it.
I prefer the 4-3 also. That scheme is certainly a key aspect of the Eagles’ image and history. The main question Schwartz has to answer is what version of that system will best use Fletcher Cox’s talents. You have to commit to building around the best player on the team.
Now we just need a black quarterback!
I am most excited about Greg Lewis coaching. I love how former Eagles are making up our coaching staff. Makes it more of a “family” Nobody can EVER take that away from us.
I remember Brian Mitchell tearing the hell out of RG3 and talking about how this isn’t Redskins football. I feel the same way about the Eagles now. Like these former Eagles actually care. Pride baby!
I’ll be excited if it translates to wins. Having the “bro” club isn’t always best. The right combination I’m sure can work. The wrong combination will have an adverse impact.
What do you guys know about rory (segreast, spelling my be wrong), but I read he is going to be our d line coach
What a cruel joke. I got really worried for a minute there.
Seriously, I saw it on another site Brandon Lee gowton tweeted it also, not sure how creditable it is
https://t.co/U4xiM34iKR
Former St and DL coach under reid
Tommy is being very charitable regarding Davis.
This defense from the bye was historically terrible by NFL standards. When the unit you are in charge of overseeing performs at a level that is as poor as any over a ~50-year period that flat out stinks.
Davis might be a competent coach who can be useful as an assistant or a position coach but he has shown he is just not a competent DC coordinator at the NFL level.
Given how articulate and thoughtful he seems, he does strike me as a guy who would be a better fit at the collegiate level as a DC coordinator and as a leader of young men.
Defensive yardage stats from more than 10-15 years ago are useless. So the 50 year charge is unwarranted.
Prior to 2000 there were 38 instances of a QB passing for more than 4000 yards in a single season. There were 12 this year. Since 2012 there has been 43.
When Trent Cole got fined something like $20k for grazing Peyton’s helmet with his fingertips, I knew football was a different game.
Generally, we were a middle-of-the-road defense (using per-drive stats). Since the offense plummeted to very poor this year, we had a losing record.
Even in the two horrid games when Sanchez was the starter, the defense did not get to 2012-level bad. So it wasn’t historic by even recent Eagles standards.
Davis seems solid but not incredibly imaginative. We probably should have been a bit better given the talent, though per-game stats will always be low due to the tempo on offense. Much happier with Schwartz.
It’s very telling that the media fell in love with Chip Kelly when he was hired but is already bashing Pederson as Andy Reid 2.0
Remember, these are the same asssholes who predicted this :
http://media.philly.com/images/20150910_05.jpg
So remember, when a reported says to Pederson “How does it feel to be the third choice of this organization” when there is NO PROOF whatsoever of the validity of that just remember who you are dealing with.
Missaneli included.
They are all Democrat/liberal voters so if a Mormon is in charge of the Eagles they show their true colors. And that is all it is.
most people thought we were SB contenders this year.
I didn’t. I thought Chip Kelly was going to get fired this year.
jeez you are the smartest person on the blog i guess..why dont you apply for the job opening at nova care, ACE!
You keep reiterating that part of your prediction while leaving off the second half…
loves that eat my own poop bet.
is he a mormon? I tried to look that up the other day and I couldnt confirm it. Nobody cared that Andy was so that doesnt really apply. Maybe when his kids got in trouble it was a tiny subtext but otherwise no. Plenty in his experience that makes them assume he may fail but you hold onto that liberal divide if it makes you feel better.
does Pederson have any “troubled” kids to distract the team?
Les Bowen, Reuben Frank and the rest of them hated Andy Reid because he was a Mormon.
is this actually true or are you just inferring that because they criticized him at some point. He was here a long time. Who hates mormons except maybe the awful fundies
about as true as your slam on fundies
seriously, are there people who defend them? Please share their good qualities with us, Id love to be more informed
your bigotry paints with a broad brush
meanwhile ISIS slaughters everyone who doesn’t follow their extremism yet you have this vision that fundamental Christians are a big problem.
unreal
Speaking of broad brushes and then lumping my point in with Isis, nice work there. If you are aware of fundamental mormons views on race and the history there, its not me who is the bigot. Good luck with that victim card though, always the tortured Christians, just cant get a break in this country lol
bigots tend to lump all people into groups which is what you have shown in your posts. you show no proof of any of your accusations and at this point are just trolling for attention with your hate filled attacks.
I will no longer assist you to slander groups of people. Do me and the rest of the fans here a favor and leave your opinions on religion at the door.
I agree, lets stick to football. I havent shown that in my posts, was only referring to fundamental mormoms as was originally stated. Zero about anyone/anything else so nice try. There is plenty to slam there and rightfully so imo but here is not the place for it.
agreed
trolls come in all shapes and sizes.
unless they’re your opinions?
Sorry, you don’t get to play the aggrieved one here.
bigots tend to lump all people into groups
unintentional irony?
It’s true. Media hates conservative people.
Depends how you define “media.”
If by media, you mean only progressive blogs and certain columnists at major newspapers like the NYT, LAT, and WaPo, then “yes.”
If by media, you mean conservative blogs, Fox News, the Wall Street Journal, and certain columninists at major newspapers like the NYT, LAT, adn WaPo, then “no.”
There is no monolithic “media.”
Sorry couldn’t read this. Alex Jones and Breitbart told me not to take off my tin foil hat and it keeps falling in my eyesssss
HELP ME ACVIKING!
HAALLLLLPPP
just repeat the words “hope and change” to yourself. It won’t solve anything but it will make you feel better about yourself.
that’s hilarious
The Philadelphia media. They aren’t conservative AT ALL
Troll…
This is the same troll that keeps changing his name. Pay no attention.
you predicted Reid’s Chiefs in this year’s super bowl.
I guess we all can be wrong at times.
That’s a lot better than predicting the Eagles to be 10-6 I was a shit load closer.
still wrong.
I even warned you that Reid’s clock management skills would blow it for his team.
Reid didn’t manage the clock though.
you can say that again!
only a few games different really
I mean he got pretty close… not a bad try.
So the Segrest thing is real.
FML
yeah — obviously couldn’t be washburn, surprised there wasn’t someone else they could pick.
Wish we would’ve backed up the Brinks truck to get Craig Kuligowski.
🙁
So you think $$$ would be necessary to induce Craig K. to join NFL? Going from Azz to him would have been great exposure for our DL.
He just moved jobs. He’s at Miami. I imagine he got a pretty good pay raise there. He’s going to have a ton of talent to work with.
Basically he’s just in a really good situation that he just started so you probably have to Godfather offer him to get him to burn bridges.
Thanks. I had no idea he moved from Miz. I thought he had a ton of talent there, but with Richt, and him recruiting at Miami, MacElwain and Jimbo Fisher may have to form a line. SEC to ACC may sound like a move down, but Canes are rising. For Craig K, SEC to ACC to NFL sounds likely.
At least he’s not special teams coordinator.
I can’t remember much about the D-Line in 2009-10 when he was teaching that position. But, he has spent the last couple years in the SEC so maybe he has better ideas of who in the draft is good there.
But yeah, almost anyone on the late Reid staffs is suspect — overall that was the biggest reason for his demise. Such that we replaced him with Washburn.
Check out what somebody posted on 24/7 that is familiar with the Arkansas defense Segrest coached. It might change your mind a little about how good Segrest might be, instead of just shooting from the hip.
I just remember this
ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler senses impending free agent CB Brandon Boykin will not return to the Steelers in 2016.
Acquired from the Eagles for a conditional fifth-round pick prior to training camp, Boykin barely played the first 11 games of the season. He took on a bigger role after the bye week, but Boykin is likely looking for a more pronounced and consistent role.
A win for Kelly — i guess we could get him back for cheap if we wanted him.
San Fran needs a nickel corner lol
Having Boykin sign back here for a relatively cap friendly deal to be our nickel CB would be amazing. Basically just rented him out to the Steelers for 9 months for a 4th round pick, had them destroy his value and allowed us to sign him cheap. Although admittedly unlikely, this would make me very happy.
The nickel corner is already on the roster in Jacorey Shepard and he is on a very cheap rookie deal. No point in overpaying for Boykin just to be a slot corner.
If we had to pay for a Nickel, Id rather pay Walter Thurmond to be our nickel, than to sign Boykin who was a malcontent when we wanted him to remain our Nickel corner… Hopefully JaCorey stays healthy and takes care of that
I’m posting this just so I can give it a thumbs down.
Rory Segrest as DL coach? Really?
The good ol’ boy network is strong in this one.
Below is a long comment from 24/7 board that might make you think differently about how good Segrest is, instead of just shooting from the hip!
Segrest was here in 2009-2010 as a DL coach.
In 2009 and 2010, the Eagles’ defensive line units ranked second and fourth, respectively, in the NFL
in sacks by defensive linemen. They ranked third (2010) and ninth
(2009) in the league in tackles for loss by defensive linemen. In 2010,
they were ranked second in the NFL in quarterback knockdowns and hurries by defensive linemen. Apparently he is a DL fundamentals and tackling coach concentrating on run defense.
In his first season on The Hill, Segrest helped the Razorbacks rank in the
top 10 in both scoring and total defense for the first time since
Arkansas joined the SEC in 1992. The Razorback
defense became the first unit in college football history to shutout
back-to-back ranked opponents as an unranked team when Arkansas blanked
No. 20 LSU and No. 8 Ole Miss. Arkansas finished No. 2 in the SEC and No. 12 nationally with just 114.6 rushing yards allowed per game.Speaking
about the Razorback defense, and looking at what they want from their
front 4, it makes a little more sense as to why we may be bringing
Segrest in.
The Razorback defense plays a base 4-3, employing
four defensive linemen who have responsibility for not only rushing the
passer, but defending the run by shedding blocks and making plays
rather than soaking up blocks from the offensive line. Whereas in a
traditional 4-3 one may expect to see tackles serve as space-eaters
while the more athletic defensive ends apply the bulk of the pass rush,
the converse is true with the Arky defense in 2015.A little more about their defense and how it had improved, specifically the DL.
The
Arkansas defense became a strength rather than a liability, capable of
not only holding opposing offenses in check, but in producing big plays
of its own. The 2014 Arky team was ranked seventh in Bill Connelly’s
“havoc” defensive metric, which measures the percentage of defensive
plays that end in a tackle for loss, forced fumble, pass defended or
interception. Of 821 defensive snaps, the Razorbacks created havoc plays
on 167, or 20.3%, of them. That percentage was well above the national
average of 15.8%, putting the Razorback defense in elite company
nationally.
The Arky defense also made it a point to become more
physical. Nowhere is this more evident than in the unit’s astronomical
improvement in run defense. In 2013, the Razorbacks ranked 78th in the
nation in regard to run defense, allowing 178.4 yards per game. The 2014
marked a dramatic improvement, as with a renewed focus on aggressive
play and simplified assignments versus the run, the Razorback D allowed
only 114.6 yards per game on the ground, good for 12th nationally.
Looks like he has improved as a D-line coach. I just remember that he was a lousy special teams coach but did ok as a d-line coach when he was here before.
Good post, thank you! Yes I remember our Special Teams being atrocious under him. But reading the above makes me more optimistic for our DL. Looks like Pederson has really put together a solid staff.
Yeah, the ST was bad, but hard to blame Greg Lewis as a return man on Rory. Wonder if they will talk about that fateful day vs Green Bay.
Awesome post. Very impressive. I too though remember a lot of hate being thrown at Segrest when he was our DL coach. Can anyone remember why though? I certainly can’t.
I can’t remember exactly. It may have been residual hate from his special teams days. But we were initially happy that we hired Washburn — general consensus was that the quality of the coaching staff had gone downhill. Of course, he did coach DL during the two McDermott years, and I have no idea where to put the blame for those. There were clearly defensive deficiencies.
Wait wait wait I remember more now than my previous post above. Weren’t we good at rushing but horrible at stopping the run, and they moved on from Rory when they changed to 2 gap responsibilities? I recall changing to two gap, but I think we may have gone back to 1 gap toward the end of Reid?
Yep that was when our defense was epicly bad at stopping the run. It was right after JJ died and there was some change up with Sean McD going to DC.
I think I am more into this now.
What I recall is that the Eagles ran one-gap up until and through the 2005 season when Brasher retired. The Eagles then hired Pete Jenkins, a long-time DL coach at LSU, and transitioned to a 2-gap scheme. The Eagles were to that point one of the best pass-rushing teams but struggled against the run. JJ wanted to improve the run defense and switched to 2-gap. Jenkins brought along Segrest, a guy he was familiar with and high on, who became the asst ST/asst DL coach. The next year Segrest was made the ST coordinator and the STs struggled. He then moved to DL coach. I’m not sure if that was the year before or year after JJ passed away. I recall the D-line at that time being strong against the run but not very good as far as applying pressure. That contradicts the numbers above, so maybe they’re right and I’m just remembering wrong. Once McDermott was fired, the Eagles went back to an attacking one-gap scheme under Washburn as DL coach. Unfortunately, they couldn’t find a DC who wanted to work with Wasburn, so we got Cstillo.
Think you are probably right about the scheme changes.
I did check dates for coaching assignments. 09′ was his first as Dline coach and was JJs first season not coaching.
Sounds like he may have been coaching something he wasn’t familiar with them of hat was during the 2 gap days.
Either way it seems he has had good results teaching this particular scheme in college, and will have an established boss this time.
I’m okay with it.
Wait wait wait wait. Didn’t he fail at ST, then get moved to DL coach and then fail even worse there? Trent did have two of his better sack years when he was the D-line coach, but I just remember lots and lots of hate for that dude.
Pederson’s son is QB at Samford, where Segrest was DL coach. Maybe the AR tree is actually a forest.
Where is Samford? Never heard of it.
There this site called google that may be of assistance to you.
And here I thought all along that it was a typo. Oops.
A Bradless place, you’d hate it.
I’d just like to say SAMFORD SUCKS! And it was embarrassing supporters of Bobby Bowden tried to use his wins at Samford to foolishly enter Bowen into the conversation for greatest college football coach of all time.
Interesting pair of facts:
Can you break this down? I’m lost.
Means Pederson’s playcalling could be responsible for KC’s second half surge.
What surge? All I see are random numbers and %’s that make no sense to me.
The numbers aren’t random. Higher is better.
By surge he means the really long winning streak.
Here’s a storm surge. Sudden gush of energy, for good or bad.
http://www.stormsurge.noaa.gov/images/header_photo_03.jpg
That’s just God crying heavily…
Blasphemer!
I am far from an expert, but a higher percentage denotes better, with zero meaning exactly as good as expected against a particular opponent. Just looking at the second halves (2H) of the games, when Reid called the plays they scored a 0.2%. This equates to totally average based on the defenses faced. In games 7-17, when Pederson took over, their rating went up to 12.1%. That means they did significantly better than expected for the quality of defense faced.
So when does the football season start again?!
3 years
When does free agency start?
not soon enough
Beginning of March, but if we are are smart, we will leave free agency alone, maybe focus on Landing one quality FA each year… We need to start drafting so well that we don’t even NEED FA..,we have plenty of Eagles that will need to be paid good money the next 3 years, no point in wasting that money on other teams free agency. If we want to have expensive playërs like Cox and Bradford, we will have to balance them out with some cheap rookie contracts…. This franchise will only go as far as our drafting ability takes us
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Under chip, he typically cut guys a day or two before free agency starts, hopefully Pederson and Howie make the cuts sooner.
More thinking about our own players we would like to keep. Vinny, Thurmond etc. Maybe Bradford
Bradford first, Vinny second, hopefully we can also retain Thurmond since the guy can basically start anywhere you need him to in the secondary, but its probably going to be hard to get him extends before he reaches Free agency, and I prefer not getting into bidding Wars over our own players. If we can get Thurmond extended by March 2nd, GREAT, if he insists on seeing what he is worth On the open market, let him walk… Although If he doesn’t find the big money offers he is hoping for and is about to sign a reasonable extension with another team, Id hope we try To keep him. I assume Maxwells contract is gettng Axed or restructured after this next season
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Id love to keep Thonrton, but I don’t see how that can be possible with all the money we have To pay extending Cox, VINNY and Logan, need to counterbalance that with cheap rookie contracts like a beau Allen
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Bradford and VINNY are the only two I would be furious to Lose, although Id love to retain Thurmond, since HOWIE has proven to struggle with evaluating safeties
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I hope we don’t have to wait Til a day or two before free agency to start announcing extensions for our players
I just don’t see Bradford wanting to sign back with us.
I would say his first choice would be Houston, then San Fran then us.
I see that as greatly exaggerated Bullshit by clueless media trying to read tea leaves and Throw shit against the wall… I think a lot of people are full of shit talking like they have any idea what SAM wants, especially when the narrative doesn’t even come remotely close to matching anything that has come out of Sam’s mouth… Reminds me a lot about how so many people talked as if they were convinced Kemdricks was a goner, then he got extended and a lot of people proved to be full of shit. People literally spent years saying BG couldn’t wait to get away from us when he became a free agent, then he signed an extension to remain an OLB and a lot of people proved to be full of shit… For years and years people said we would Lose Curry after this season, again, it’s looking like people were full of shit, a lot of people were convinced that they knew what BG and VINNY wanted, turns out they were clueless…. Now everyone apparentky knows what Bradford wants? Please….
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You are already seeing a.chamge in the media narrative, two weeks ago everyone claimed that they knew SAM hated it here and couldn’t wait to get away, and now we are already starting to see a change In Narrative where more and more media are starting to say that Eagles and SAM joining up are best for both parties.
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For starters, if SAM really hates philly, which I don’t believe, WTF does he know about Philly? He spent one year here during a disaster season. Who the hell enjoys being in Philly during bad times that get magnified in this city? Even if you have to Tag the guy, once he Experiemces What having success in Philly is like, good chance his opinion would change… I also think SAM would end up Enjoyng playimg in Dougs WCO hybrid that fits SAM skillset extremely well, and Id bet he enjoys all the QB knowledge from a coaching staff with Doug P, Reicht and DeFillipo… id also bet he likes the thought of buildimg Chemistry with Jordan, Ertz, Ags, Sproles more than people seem to THINK…
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It’s funny how everyone buys all the negative rumors they hear about how Bradford views Philly, yet No one gives any consideration to everything SAM has ever said since being here…. The KC offense/coaches got Alex Smith to start playing the best ball of his career In a west coast offense that fits him well, and he is having some success over there… SAM is also a great fit for what KC is doing with Alex, and SAM is even more Talented than Alex Smith…
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Whether someone says that they know SAM wants to stay, or someone says they know that SAM wants to leave, I don’t buy any of it, I don’t believe that any of the people running their mouth about what SAM wants have any idea how he really feels about all this.. People said SAM was going to leave before anyone even knew who would end up coaching the Eagles, which to me says that they are all full of sht. The next staff, the next offense was going to play a role in Sams decision so it’s funny that people claim they knew he didn’t even want to be here before he even knew what being here meant (we were coachless at the time)
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Sam has said exactly what a Giuy entering free agency should say to maximize his value, and the Bradord camp, and his agent, the ONLY info they are interested in leaking right now is info aimed to try and maximize his clients value. Everything from his camp is posturing for the most money, whch is EXACTLY what SAM and his Agent should be in Jamuary two months from free agency…
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And from the Eagles side, what Lurie or Roseman want probably doesn’t matter much in THS situation.. You have a brand new coach, I would assume a smart front office will get our new coach the QB he wants… The Only opinion that should matter is Dougs, Reicht, And defillippo’s…. If you can get Doug the QB he wants, why wouldn’t you? we can Tag Bradford for two years, so what he WANTS doesnt have to matter. he doesn’t know this oaching staff, he doesmt know what playimg in this city durng the good times is like. Even if he doesnt LOVE staying here today, which I don’t believe anyone knows, that good easily change as he gets to know the coaches, the offense that fits him well, a coach Who will want him to audible and give him ownership of the team.. If Doug wants SAM Bradford, I don’t see what else is there to discuss? We can do it the hrd way and Tag him, or the easy way and work out an extension.
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Id be pretty surprised if SAM Is not our QB next year. I know we can’t get a QB who willl give us a better chance to win then sam will the next 3 years and I know that traditionally teams don’t łet HEALTHY QBs entering their prime with Sams talent level get away… Id be shocked if he wasn’t our QB going forward, but We’ll see…I damn sure don’t believe that people who claim to know that he doesn’t want to be here have any clue what SAM wants
Yes, everything is speculation at this point. I would like to see Sam come back, our young receivers desperately need continuity if they have any hope of reaching their potential. I just read it as what is the best situation that Sam views, and he may feel O’Brian is his best shot. He may feel we are his best shop but there are a ton of suitors for him.
San Fran would have to ditch Kaepernick to make that team remotely feasible, and it appears they hired a coach based on if they would keep Kaepernick, so I’d rule them out.
Houston is probably the best bet.
And they structured his contract so they could get out whenever they want. I don’t get the feeling Chip wants Kap and he could make a play for Sam but noone really knows at this point.
OK. That would be presuming the media reports are utterly false (going with Kelly over Shanahan because the latter wanted to ditch Kap). Which is quite plausible.
By starting with ‘ Bradford first… ‘ you probably will not have the $$$ to sign all the guys you want. Bradford is just too expensive, given the very real needs, and players to be extended on this team. Resign our own ( except Bradford) and build up the Oline ( 2 min) ,DB/S, WR this year. Then QB in 2017,
Who cares about anyone on this team besides Cox if we don’t have a QB? Without SAM our ceiling is the Houson Texans… funny how people seem to think that the Texans will have no trouble paying JJ Watt, Bradford AND Hopkins, yet the Eagles paying bradford is a problem? Id lose all 8 of our free agents rather than lose our QB and accept being irrelevant
Not soon enough. But I’d like some limited signings. Mitchell Schwartz and some journeymen.
My top OT as well on FA (actually my top FA).
And NFL network had a top 20 free agents list out today…………Schwartz wasn’t on it. If we can get him in here at a good number due to lack of hype I’ll be pumped.
Retaining Crazy Eyes Fipp was key. Special teams were the only consistently functioning unit the Birds fielded this season. I salute Davis for taking on what must be the hardest coaching gig in the NFL — DC under Kelly, where you know your guys are going to be on the field longer than anyone else’s. No surprise his unit wore down as the season waned.
It’s key as long as Pederson pays as much attention to special teams studs being on the 53-man as much as Kelly did. At the end, Reid seemed to keep at most one special teams ace on the team (sometimes zero, and paid for it). Kelly seemed to keep 2-3.
Fun fact of the day: as a high school freshman Carson Wentz was 5-8, 125. By his senior year grew to be 6-5.
My brother in-law went from about 5’8″ to 6’4″ in about 2 years. I probably grew about a 12″ in a year and half at one point.
Blame it on the american farmer.
I worked with a kid who grew up on a farm. Told me his brothers were huge and his stories about family dinner were hilarious. Talking 30 pork chops for 5 of them and gallons of milk, just crazy amounts of food theyd eat, country boys.
Im 6’2″ so I’m not small. To see my brother-in-law eat though is something people should pay for in a freak show. I remember seeing him load a plate the ceiling and thinking he was just going to throw half of it away. Nah, he aced it… and loaded another plate up just as big. Then he complained that he was still hungry when he finished. Guy was a Lax star in high-school too…no chubster.
Sponsor his ass in wing bowl
With crazy amount of the growth hormone and steroids
My brother went from 5’4″ to 6’6″ in about 18 months. We are neither Americans or farmers. Genetics, baby.
ha. There were 98 and 105, 112 weight classes in wrestling when I was a freshman, well those were weight classes throughout. So ya, those kids can be small.
Yup, I wrestled 103 as a freshman, and we had a state champ at 98
by the time he plays for us he will be 7’4 at 320 like Shaq.
Embiid grew two inches last year
Since we are all sharing our own awkward growth spurts, I started 9th grade 5’2″ and ended 10th grade 6’2″. I also grew up in a log structure where not all the doorways are standard. One particular doorway would have qualified me for the concussion protocol a few times, if such a thing existed.
You’re from Berks. You grew up in a log cabin.
HOLY SHIT GUYS ATG IS DANIEL BOONE!
Franchise/trade Bradford.
Sign Brandon Bridge.
Huh, not good enough for any NFL team’s practice squad this year.
Ew, no.
He’s the next Randall Cunningham. At least give him a shot as 3rd down quarterback.
I’d rather find the next Tom Brady.
Report has Segrest as DL coach. Yes that Segrest! Say it ain’t so! What Juan wasn’t available? Yes, that Juan.
That was also my initial reaction, but somebody posted some stuff about his work as D line coach vs. his HORRIBLE work as special teams coach.
I was mollified.
“mollified”
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Damn good, underutilized word.
I have to balance out f bombing somehow.
Some things I like from the new staff:
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OFFENSE:
1) think Andy, Doug and the KC staff have done a much better job unleashing TE Travis KELCE, than Chip was able to do for Ertz… Dougs offense is going to be great for taking Ertz game to the next level
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2) I like that Doug talked about not being interested in a left outside WR, a right outside Wr and a slot WR because he believes in constantly moving the WRs all over the place which means Jordan won’t be exclusively glued to the slot any more, he will move all over the place, and I think it will be good for Josh Huff to give him some looks out Of the slot and Backfield.. I think our young WRs are going to benefit from this coaching change. Hear a lot of rumblings about Chips staff not paying enough attention to detail when it came to developing Wrs.
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3) Ryan Mathews had success under chip, there is no doubt that Murray will be used drastically better than Chip ever did… Im most excited about Darren Sproles, because One of the strengths of ANDYs offense was weaponizing pass catching RBs like Westbrook and Jamaal Charles. I assume Sproles won’t run the ball like he did under Chip. But he should have his best pass catching season as an eagle
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4) Sounds like Doug is a big believer in tapping into a QBs brain, Gving him pass/run packaged plays, but also use Bradfords QB Brain to audible into better plays, and really allow bradford to take ownership of this offense
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DEFENSE:
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1) Very excited about an experienced DC who ran a bunch of different schemes and will be given the freedome to do whatever he wants on Offense, where as Billy Davis was stuck running what chip wanted.. Schwartz I believe will care first and Formost about running whatever defense best suits the strengths of our talent. so where as the 2013 Summer, our players had to spend the summer learning a new scheme most of our kids had never played in, and the different techniques they had to learn to play in the new scheme, so it was no surprise that our defense struggled BIGTIME the first month of the season until guys started to get comfortable in the new defense.. Under Schwartz, I expect this defense to really hit the ground running, because instead of making our players fit a specific scheme he is married to, I believe Schwartz will put our kids in positipn to Play To their strengths, so I don’t think our defenders will have to spend the summer learning new scheme and techniques from the ground up, Schwartz will put them in position to do what they do best, so the defense should be much more ready at the start of the season, instead of 2013 when our defense had to initially take a few steps back in hopes that they would later take 5 steps forward..
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coach Fipp, plus Donnie LOngball, and the Return of Cody Parkey, our ST should remain top notch. I hope there continues to be a place on this rostee for Braman and maragos
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#1 change I look forward to, hoping a former QB raised under Reid, will make sure to draft an Offensive Lineman almost every year,, can’t have enough quality OLineman
Going to be an interesting summer… Hopefully a good type of interesting
A little bit of enlightenment to suggest that Chip was not necessarily the nasty dictator some have proclaimed,
http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/1/21/10810294/49ers-officially-sign-eric-rogers-after-chip-kelly-recruited-him-to
hmm i read it.. How does this change anything..?
I don’t recall saying that this article changes anything. I just thought it was interesting and presented another point of view. Is another point of view not permitted here?
It’s not encouraged.
Another point of view is suppose to change the overall view right?
He didn’t sign him though. What an asshole getting the kid’s hope up.
You sound like you’ve been listening a little too much to the whiny ones.
Due diligence. What’s the problem? All teams do it. Paid off now. The player (who is coveted by several teams if you’d read the article) himself says:
“”One coach spent an hour with me, a couple other guys spent 30 minutes with me, and Chip Kelly spent another 30 minutes with me. I was like, ‘I appreciate you guys taking the time to meet with me when you’ve got a game in less than 48 hours, a big playoff contention game.’ That pretty much stuck with me.”….
Couldn’t go to Lurie’s Christmas party because he had to study. Went and recruited a CFL receiver during his study time. That’s how you get fired right there.
Flyers Pens tonight! Get some cold tasty beverages ready!
Indeed!
Sucks Coots is out, Malkin has probably never been happier to see a Flyer out… Heard Shittsburgh couldn’t even sell the game out! What a bunch of hosers
Coots being out sucks.
And after they sucked vs Ottawa
Tommy do a google search on Claudia Alende 🙂
The Bradford decisipn should be pretty simple… If Doug, DeFillippo and Reacht want Sam and believe they can do big things with him goimg forward, then there should be nothing else to discuss, just figure out if we want to tag him or go right for the extension.
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If you can get your new coach the QB he wants, why the hell wouldnt you? Who the hell on the Eagles is more qualified to make the decision then 3 Coaches with a ton of experience with pro QBs in Pederson, Reicht and DeFillippo?.. The HC/OC are the ONLY people whos opinion on our QB should matter. Once they decide who is the best QB for this job, then it up to Roseman to work out the details of how we will give the coaches the QB that THEY Want….
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If you are going to refuse to give Our coach the QB that he wants, we will be doomed before this regime ever starts…. Id like to think that the Eagles are smarter than that, since traditionally healthy QBs of Sams talent Level are not allowed to change teams. If Dpug wants SAM here, then the front office needs to do what it takes to deliver Bradford. If the coaches want Fitzpatrik then the front office needs to deliver Fitzpatrik..
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If you don’t trust Doug to give him the QB he wants, we will be doomed before he ever coaches a game for us
Sorry I couldn’t chime in while at work earlier, but NO THANK YOU on signing that overrated cornball Weddle. He’ll be overpaid by some foolish team. Not us.
I don’t want that fool either,
There is also the possibility of where Doug and company like him but not love him, at that point’s it up to the team including GM to decide how much they are willing to pay. And I think that’s going to be the case. I don’t think this or any coaching staff is saying “I must have bradford”
In that case, buying a year with the tag is fine by me.
yeah tag and then draft a qb is good with me
Regardless of sam we need to still draft a QB.. Signing SAM to 5 year deal that we,can get out of after year 3 gives us 3 drafts to Identify and get our hands on the RIGHT QB, instead of going into a weak QB draft forced to draft a QB out of desperation which is what the most dysfunctionl teams like the Browns do… There aren’t even enough QBs for each team to have a solid QB, so I find it moronic and Delusional to think we can just go get our franchise QB in any draft we want,,, Maybe if we had a top 5 pick, but we have to be flat out stupid to go into a draft with the 13th pick and no second round pick to trade up, and Assumed we can get a franchise QB.. Extending Sam gves us 3 years to DRAFT the Right QB, and it damn sure isn’t the end of the world if the kid has to spend a year or two behind SAM..
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If it were up to me,I’d extend SAM today, and if we get to this draft and LOVE a QB THATS available when we pick, Id draft him too….. I just don’t want to draft Qbs out Of desperatipn. That’s how you settle and end up making costly mistakes.. Extending SAM gives us time, keeps our options open, and allows us to try and take advantage of a weak division right away
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And if we pass on the Qbs this year, Id like to see us try and trade one of our 3rd round picks for a second round pick next year, so we will have two second round picks Next year that we can use to trade up in a better QB draft
.d bet Doug sees a QB that can be even more successful than what they are getting from Alex smith who they had some nice success with
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If they Like but don’t Love SAM, doubt there is anyone else who they Love. SAM gives Doug the best chance to succeed as a first time HC, why the hell wpuldnt he LOVE the QB that gives him the best chance to succeed?
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Don’t see how a guy who Loves alex smith, won’t LOVE Bradford… But we’ll see.
He (cheifs) loves alex smith at a certain price. Agreed he is the best FA option but doesn’t mean you cripple your team if he is asking for more then what he’s worth. Pederson is a new coach he still has the opportunity to find his QB not like this is his make or break year where he must have a QB no matter what the cost.
Ok…
You seem to be missing a few possibilities in this scenario. Maybe Doug doesn’t want Bradford at all. Maybe he sees him as a guy, but not THE guy. Maybe the three people you mention have differing opinions. Maybe they see a guy with all the tools who will never put it together.
I certainly don’t know what they think, none of us do. From your initial premise, though, you need to at least acknowledge that fact. This is not a situation where the fans are screaming no and the coaches are screaming yes and Howie is in the middle with an abacus and canvas bag with a $ on it.
Lol. The first Chinese Abacus was invented around 500 B.C.
Before money, even.
Tried for a pic of McDuck with bag but Disney…well, you know.
So in running some fun simulations on the first pick mock draft, I’ve been noticing a trend of QBs FLYING up the board. My dream of having the ultimate Howie trade down to pick up a 2nd (and anther pick) and still getting Wentz seem to be fading.
That missing 2nd rounder in the Bradford deal is going to be kicking us in the groin for quite some time.
And here is an example. Both Goff and Wentz went ahead of me. I don’t want Lynch. So I traded down twice.
Round 1 Pick 17 (ATL): Shaq Lawson, DE, Clemson (A)
Round 2 Pick 14 (L.A.): Cody Whitehair, OG, Kansas State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 19 (ATL): Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (A-)
Round 3 Pick 14: Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 16: Jayron Kearse, SS, Clemson (A+)
Round 4 Pick 15: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 14: D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech (A)
Round 5 Pick 23: Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska (A-)
Round 6 Pick 13: Jordan Williams, WR, Ball State (A+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Marteze Waller, RB, Fresno State (A)
Round 7 Pick 31: Jonathan Jones, CB, Auburn (B+)
I like the players except Hackenberg. You aren’t getting 1 2nd rounder to move down 4 spots much less two, I realize thar’s the sim allowed. Hackenberg isn’t any good sorry he doesn’t have the smarts, so many I would take over him like Hogan, Doughty, Allen. We have 4 potential DEs if we sign Curry, I’d rather take Lynch personally. Don’t really need two CBs or RB yet over OL.
Does Deion Jones fit?
Jones seems like a 4-3 OLB.
Hack, like I was saying to insomniac, in the third round is purely spec.
I’ll keep an eye on the other dudes you mentioned.
*barf* Hackenberg
I hear you, but in that spot in the draft any QB is a big long shot. He, or any other guy that late, would be riding pine and learning.
Thoughts on any of the other guys?
I hate almost every QB equally in this draft but if I had to take a QB in like the 4th round it would be Jacoby Brissett. He has enough talent to try to groom while we deal with a stop gap QB for a year.
Ouch. He’s a total no-go for me. Not a fan of his game at all.
It’s because he can run with the ball isn’t it.
+1 team Insomniac. I just don’t trust guy who run that much to ever develop into a real NFL QB. Last year he was at one rush for every 3 pass attempts. That’s not what I want to see at QB.
He goes Foles (mechanics) and Bradford (vision and deep ball accuracy) sometimes when in the pocket. Some of that is on him and the WRs. He does scramble a lot and makes the most out of it. He’s accurate when throwing on the run too. Brissett ran less this year and tried to be more of a pocket QB ala McNabb. He has more intangibles than most other developmental QBs right now and that’s your best chance of getting a starter.
If 139 rushing attempts is “less” that scares me even “more.”
Brissett is their best player on the team. I think the coach put everything on Brissett’s shoulder since NC State sucks. It was like watching a junior Eagles team play in college.
NFW Hackenberg, Just a thought, do we need a FB?
I’m not sure if UDFA FB is better than late round FB. But I agree that we’ll need one.
Eagles signed RB Ross Scheuerman. Interesting since Reich had Danny Woodhead.
On Thursday afternoon, the Eagles announced the signing of two players to reserve/futures contracts – running back Ross Scheuerman and tight end Chris Pantale.
Scheuerman, listed at 6-0, 210 pounds, played his college football locally at Lafayette, where he was a four-time All-Patriot League selection. With the Leopards, he rushed for 3,504 yards and 31 touchdowns in his career. He was originally signed as a free agent by the Pittsburgh Steelers in May 2015, but was placed on injured reserve during Training Camp before being released. He then signed with the Green Bay Packers’ practice squad in December.
Pantale was originally signed to the Eagles practice squad in September 2015, spending the year on the Eagles’ practice squad. The 6-5 tight end has playing experience in the NFL, appearing in the final five games of the 2014 season for the Jets, playing mostly as a special teams player. The Boston College product has also spent time with the Chicago Bears.
Scheuerman
https://youtu.be/flKMRO8XzfM
Immediate upgrade from Barner.
Curious to see how many oregon Ducks will be left on our roster next year..
TRADE ALL OF THEM TO CHIP
I think you’d take a tackling dummy over Barner. 🙂
I hope Tommy can write about the pros and cons of letting go some FAs in a future post.
Tommy’s scouting report on Ced
http://igglesblitz.com/2012/03/cedric-thornton/
I’m going to single out Ced since right now we don’t have quality DTs behind the starters. Beau Allen and Taylor Hart are not good 4-3 DTs.
The character issues clearly are a thing of the past unless Ced is a master of keeping things a secret. I don’t see the quickness consistently from Ced and sometimes I think he’s just physically outmatched. He has developed a very nice knack of blowing up running plays and sealing off running lanes. That takes patience, grit and high football IQ. I don’t know if he was just being safe and sticking to the assignment but the lack of pass rush is enough reason to let him test the market.
However, there’s always $$$ that’s the issue. Matching the money that Ced could possibly get from a 3-4 team might not be in our best interest. That’s if he gets a contract between $4-6 million a year. There are some good DTs that are better athletes in the draft worth rotating in if you take them in the middle rounds. It’ll be interesting to see what Howie..I mean Pederson does.
Good point with no depth.. But dont see Thorton getting paid to rotate in with Logan n Cox.. Think Cox gets n extension this season too.. Like Logan overall game better the Thorton too
I’m thinking we bring guys in through the draft or FA. If Ced has any love for the city that gave him a shot then he might stay here on a reasonable deal. I do remember Ced flashing in the preseason when we first implemented the wide 9 but preseason lol.
Swartz did mention he coached him at the Senior Bowl i think it was.. Think Thorton is gonna be paid big money from a 3-4 team.. Guy deserves it too.. Draft the depth i say or FA sign a under performing players wanting a fresh start.. Nick Farley..
“big money” nah.
Fairley might be a little too expensive. Maybe we can kick the tires on Henry Melton for cheap but the draft is the best chance of getting a quality DT right now.
LOVE the talent on Melton, but I’m just about done with injury rehab dudes.
with the power of smoothies and sports science, we can rebuild him!!
Doubt we will be paying other team free agent DL, when we can’t even pay to keep all 3 of our starting DL’s…..doubt they would let Ced walk, and then pay someone else’s FA DLineman
Not a chance he gets big money. Thornton is pretty much a one dimensional run stuffer and that’s it. He has no pass rush moves nor was he ever and effective pass rusher. He get a contract in the 3-4 mil a year range.
Ok maybe not big money lol
I think Ced deserves to be paid starters money on a 3-4 team. I’ll wish him well.
Starter money for your normal 3-4 DE is like 3-7 million and Ced would be on the lower end unless some team reallllllly wants him.
I think we could get a similar level of production that he’d provide in a 4-3 with a guy making rookie minimum however. Ced really isn’t a penetration guy.
I’ll take the run stuffer until we can get 3 Jordan Hicks as LBs right now..for the right price of course.
You know Ced went here in 2011 as an udfa because of Washburn right?
How are Allen not a 4-3 guy? He got the traditional 1 tech build and played both NT and 1 tech in college
The same reason why Ced isn’t an ideal 4-3 DT in the NFL. Not athletic enough for consistent pass rush.
So you are telling me that you have watched Allen on all his snaps playing 1 gap in the NFL and college?
I’ve seen enough to know that he’s just an effort player that’s just really big.
Allen is fine as the backup 1 tech. That guy is gonna play 15 snaps a game and goalline D.
Hart is a bit too tall. He likely will struggle. You can make due for a year but preferably you want to upgrade backup 3 tech.
yea, Hart is a bad fit, unless you use him as a SDE in 4-3 under look, with Barwin as the SAM behind him
*beside him
He needs to be a 5 tech. If we play mostly under he still has a role. If it’s more over looks then he should be moved for a late pick.
haha yes besides.
I do doubt we will play much under when Schwartz backgrond is as an over guy
He actually played a decent amount of it in Buffalo. It’s more of the Chris Gocong style under than Seahawks style.
I’ll be digging into the Schwartz film in the next couple days and should have a post up on Eagles Rewind sometime next week with some more insights.
https://twitter.com/Astonia67/status/689802688469532673
BOOOOOOOO! I rarely venture outside of this blog. I wouldn’t see your work over there. Any chance you put a link here? Enjoy reading your stuff….
Tommy’s linked to my stuff a few times, and I’ll drop the link in the comment section for ya.
TY.
Question (maybe for your post): Could Curry rotate in for Cox in Schwartz’s scheme? It’s not optimal, but it seems that in an attacking 4-3 scheme, Curry has some value as a DT, too (that first step seems to be too much for a lot of guards in the league.) Could be used to limit the amount Hart or a rookie sees the field at 3?
He can kick to the 3 on passing downs and play a Nascar DT ala Justin Tuck
Also, this opinion makes me very happy. The D has a lot of interesting pieces that would benefit from mixing it up. I want to see them using under looks more often.
http://www.draftbreakdown.com/gif-embed/?clip=258391&gif=PersonalContentDouglasfirbarkbeetle
Just wanted to share this with Media Mike. That’s a QB stiff arming a 250 pound LB.
Cute play, but in all likelihood that type of Sunday stroll in an NFL game is going to get him killed and/or fumbling.
He has been doing that against some NFL caliber talent. He’s hard to bring down like Big Ben.
That’s setting the bar rather high.
as much as i don’t want to agree w/ MM i can’t call that a + play for him, screamed sack fumble or pick as i watched it.
It is scary sometimes but he has a track record of not going down to the first guy. It could translate to the next level since Cam/Big Ben still have that ability.
they have 30+ lbs on him too, but maybe.
If we do go to a somewhat more traditional offense and use a FB, any idea what other position would lose a spot? any idea what FB’s there are in FA? Draft? Only FB name I’ve heard in the draft is the baby Gronk bro and i’m not sure if he’s been talked about cos of his play or his name(haven’t seen any of his college tape).
Sure. Just cut Barner and add a FB.
But I’d assume we’d be short a LB and/or WR.
Whats the 3rd tight ends name that looks so good, but never plays? I’m blanking for some reason. That is my part time FB, if I need to use one on 5% of plays.
Like him too, he always seemed to get open and get YAC, he could be better than Ertz if he had a shot. Not sure what his blocking looks like though. Though if OL gets better maybe we don’t have to sit in 2-TE sets.
trey burton
Just use Burton as the fb, no need for a real fb, Andy have went away from them
It’s the roster spot normally occupied by RB4, TE4, WR6.
It’s not that worth investing much time in. They are a dying breed. Don’t play much and require minimal draft or financial investment.
If you really want a name, James Develin is a local kid and has been on the Pats the past few years.
Most teams just use a bigger RB or smaller TE instead.
Fullbavks are typically key ST players…. FB add physicality to the run game. After years of shotgun runs, I never been so excited to see a FB lol
For those unconvinced about Pederson, take heart in the fact that it apparently takes two co-offensive coordinators to replace him in not calling the plays in KC.
If you have two coordinators you don’t have a coordinator.
I wonder if they will hire a manager to coordinate the efforts of the coordinators.
Preach
2 coordinators is a conspiracy
On a bbq knoll
Andy is too soft in his old age. That is a please everyone move if I ever heard one.
Is one of them the defensive line coach?
God has sent a blizzard to prevent Rory Segrest from flying into Philly to sign on to be DL coach.
I am just concerned that coaching will interfere with his New Year’s Eve commitments.
What is the problem with him? Remember him doing well here and read here that as Arkansas DL has become a strength
He was essentially Bicknell for the DL under McDermott. Chris Clemmons and Babin both left and broke out for double digit sacks each. He didn’t do much to help develop Graham, Sapp, DTN.
Basically the only players who had any level of sucess under him were Antonio Dixon and already established vets.
After being let go by the Eagles he was next hired at Samford.
He is oft cited of one of the many examples of Reid running out of names in his rolodex and not getting adequate replacements when his staff was poached.
If it wasnt because McDermott had been such a bad play caller, I might question it more.
Graham had a good rookie year until he got injured, Sapp never became anything and DTN started on Tampa, more out of necessity than talent.
Babin had like 2 good years total in his career, both under Washburn while ignoring anything but the QB.
I mean it’s not a dumpster fire hire. But he struggled his first stint here and unlike most of the staff who have either had some level of success at a higher title or are former players with a few years coaching under their belt.
I’m not too worried about it because the DL are all entering their prime and are already pretty established. Plus Schwartz and Phillip Daniels (62 career sacks and 15 years in the league) will also be involved.
It’s akin to bringing back John Lovett. So I get the worry but there are enough positive factors surrounding the position group to sweat it too much.
Who cares? phillip Daniels is the real DL coach Prize.. Former player who mIke Shannahan calledl the mos technical, the most attention to detail DL he ever coached… The former NFL veteran could be a big help adding some tricks to the arsenal of our DLineman
Any news on whether Mike Vrabel took that DC job — seems like he’s taking a while to accept.
Rejected it
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https://twitter.com/LesBowen/status/690357221100756996
Billy D is available Chip
Wonder if Billy D would rather chill for a year than further damage his rep.
“I have complete confidence in Billy Davis”
John Middlekauff
@JohnMiddlekauff
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Mike Vrabel has turned down the #49ers DC job & will stay in Houston per source
Smart, wait a year or two to establish yourself into a hot DC candidate and don’t ruin your rep trying to run a D that is on the field 40 minutes a game.
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I don’t know what’s funnier; Mike Vrabel turning down Chip or Mike Vrabel being considered for a DC job to begin with.
Wonder if Azz will go out to run the defense for Chip.
Must be humbling experience for chip. 3 years ago he was the hottest thing since sliced bread. Even 5 months ago people thought he was going to break out. Now, new franchise that’s in the toilet, his rep in the league is so bad that people outside of his circle don’t want to work with him.
Should have traded him to Tenn. at the beginning of the season.
10 miilion more in the bank he will survive this
Past: In Chip we trust.
Present: Chip is a bust.
Fickle is fandom…
Going to be interesting to see how he does in SF.
Scam artists gonna scam.
Love how the media trashed him for his shitty standup comedy routine at the Niners pressconfrence,,
Why does Blandon Lee G have such a hard on for the Eagles not conducting their interview process up to his standards?
Maybe he’s trying to get a better gig and needs to go negative.
The Kempski path?
I’d argue that Kempski path would be more accurately described as “being correct”. Unfortunately, being correct about the Eagles lately has required being negative about a lot of things.
I know where you’re coming from: I was incredibly pissed off at Kempski for starting that DeSean Jackson stuff… but it turned out that he didn’t start it, he was just right about it.
Why does anyone pay any attention to what that dude has to say is the bigger question…..,,,
I went back to look at some Goff breakdowns. I like one of his WRs in Kenny Lawler. He has a similar frame as Josh Doctson but he’s faster and has just as good body control/hands (when he doesn’t pull a TO and drop dump off passes).
I believe D3 was complimentary of him on Twitter the other day.
Damn he must suck then.
:'(
come on man you know I’m just kidding.
Kenny Ladler. S from Vandy from 2014 (teammate of Krause and Jmatt). Made Bills as UDFA under Schwartz.
Yep, my bad.
That means I misrepresented Lawler with an untrue endorsement. You could say I shilled Kenny.
draft really really intrigues me this year cos it will tell a lot about the direction the team will be moving(so will FA prior) so I had my first go at a mock draft. Didn’t use any trades etc(I know how unrealistic that can get). Here’s what I got. Thoughts?
Round 1 Pick 13: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State (A)
Round 3 Pick 14: John Theus, OT, Georgia (A)
Round 3 Pick 16: Greg Pyke, OG, Georgia (A)
Round 4 Pick 15: Kenny Lawler, WR, California (A+)
Round 5 Pick 14: Glenn Gronkowski, FB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 23: Kevon Seymour, CB, Southern California (A-)
Round 6 Pick 13: Parker Ehinger, OG, Cincinnati (B+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Terrance Smith, OLB, Florida State (B-)
Round 7 Pick 31: Matt Ioannidis, DT, Temple (A+)
Strong work, but I’ve been avoiding the UGA linemen.
“According to a person familiar with the situation who requested anonymity, the Eagles have prioritized getting new contracts done with offensive tackle Lane Johnson, tight end Zach Ertz and defensive end Vinny Curry.”
Cox?
$7.8 million cap hit for 2016 and absolutely a guy you franchise tag going into 2017 if you can’t get him to agree long term. His deal is going to be a for mega millions, so it might take a while to negotiate.
Johnson, Ertz, and Curry are guys you absolutely wouldn’t pay at the franchise level, so getting those deals done ASAP is more worth it.
I thought the plan (meaning by fans) was to franchise Bradford. I have no idea about this stuff. I’m just commenting off of posts…. This could be interesting if we have two vital pieces to tag…
Cox’ contract expires next year
Thanks
Cox is under contract for next year, we can Tag SAM now, and Tag Cox after next season……. While it’s great to hear that we want to extend Vinny, Lane and Ertz now, I don’t really believe any reports this time of year and I think a lot of people are full of shit”…… But even if we extend those 3 playërs first, doesn’t mean we can take care of Cox before the season starts… Howie knows how to handled the cap well. Im sure he knows how important it is to get Cox under contract before he plays in a one gap defense and tears the league up, so if possible, im sure howie will try hard to get the Cox extension done before the start of next season
Can Brent Celek play fullback or at least back up at fullback?
Too tall I believe.
Cardinals use 6’7 281lbs Darren Fells as their FB even though he’s a TE by trade.
So once again, old dog new tricks means I’m skeptical but you can tinker with it.
I guess it would depend on how much you’re going to actually utilize a FB? If it’s only going to be 1 or 2 plays a game, you could probably live with it? But if you’re counting on a FB for matchups and situational playcalling, probably not going to cut it?
Trey Burton.
oh yeah, forgot about him! thanks
My (blind) faith in Pederson from a 3000 ft fantasy view. I really don’t know if KC used a fb or not. I don’t remember even though I watched them play. I don’t know if it was blocking scheme or just talent. KC lost an amazing rb to injury. In walked another RB – who tore up the league. Only to get injured and have a 3rd string rb step in and be amazingly successful. How much of that was (or wasn’t)Pederson? Emphasize run game. Minimize QB’s work. Seems like a good formula for Bradford.
The Chiefs have a fairly well paid FB named Anthony Sherman.
Contract extended at 3 years $7M before the 2015 season.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/anthony-sherman/
I like Bradford. But odds are he is gone. If he doesn’t sign a team friendly deal before FA begins…I don’t not believe the eagles are going to try to win a bidding war for him. He is going to end up being a top 5 paid qb, mark my words. I’ll give you a minute to clean up that coffee you just spit up all over the screen…….tag him, trade him and I suppose we are going to be looking to the draft or maybe a guy like Chase Daniel who played for Pederson at KC.
Top 5 paid, that’s foul. Reminds me of when some marginal 7 footer gets paid 20 mil in the NBA.
Not to mention Tom Condon is a shark.
Vrabel turned down being Chips DC so he can remain the LB coach of the Texans, lol SMART MAN! I could already see chip at a press Confrence after a loss blaming it on his inexperienced DC”.
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Chip proved how classless he is running his mouth about how he has the best RB coach in the NFL…. Why not just spit In Duce’s face while he is at it? Would have it been that hard to have some class and say I have ONE of the best RB Coacbes in the NFL?
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I can’t wait for the first time chip and the Niners come to philly, The crowd will treat him worse than any former eagle returning to the Linc…
I expect every Head Coach to say they have the “best” assistants in the league. Who cares?
Who the hell is going to take that job? Would Billy D do it? Or would he say thanks, but no thanks?
Doubt chip can get any established NFL DC to join his staff. For example, he would have NEVER been able to get Svhwartz to join his staff.
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If Chips Tempo isnt a big enough slap in the face to his defense, even worse is the fact that Chip won’t leave his DC alone to run the defense they see fit, Billy Davis was a 4-3Under coach, yet Chip demanded that he run a 3-4, singke high safety press man scheme.. What’s even worse is that no one would ever say that the defenders he Inherrited in Philly were best suited to run a 3-4, so chip wasnt even interested in tailoring schemes around the talent he has in Place.. You can land a experienced DC like Schwartz if you don’t leave the man alone to run what he thinks gives us the best chance to win, no quality DC will sign on to be told how to run his defense by Chip… Which is probably why he is trying to hire position coaches that would overlook all these red flags because they badly want their first DC opportunity
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No Idea if Billy would sign on for another tour of the chip kelly experiemce.
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My best guess is that they struggle to get a quality DC, so Chip ends up convincing the Niners that Azzinaro is the best man to run his Defense,, but who knows what that weirdo has in mind… Seems like he doesn’t plan on making ANY CHANGES to his pro coaching approach, so I’ll be surprised if Chip lasts more than 3 years in San Fran before being fired. If he is smart, he will start kissing respected leader Navarrow BOwmans ass and hope to get Bowman on his side to sell chip methods to the rest of the locker room
I haven’t seen lately, but is Rory Segrest still going to be our defensive line coach? That choice is…uninspiring.
Yup, looks like he is the DL coach, but I’m excited about his assistant Phillip Daniels who played for over 15 years and coaches like Shannahan rave about his intelligence and technical prowess.. He could teach our puppies entering their primes some crafty veteran tricks of the trade and he should be a real asset in the DL film study gameplanning to attack the opposing OL”…. Think he can end up being a valuable addition to this staff
I look forwards to chip missing the playoffs next year behind seattle and Arizona, and being forced to do HardKnocks which you know chip would hate
Wonder how many Ducks will be on our roster next year? Hopefully HOWIE can pull off some trades and get value for a kid like Hart who belongs in a 3-4 with a team like the Steelers or Niners. Even if we can’t get draft picks, player for player trade could get us some value. for Example. KC has No USE for their FB now that Chip is in town. We have little use for a 3-4 DE… Maybe we can work out a swap with the niners?
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Probably should look at teams with coaching changes, a scheme chamge could mean They have solid players who no longer fit the new schemes, and HOWIE has been able to pull off player for Player Trades…
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Sucks that the Browns got Hue Jackson, Josh Gordon applied for reinstatement and allegedly he is doing well unlike Justin Blackmon who let himself go. unfortunately Hue is a players coach who will try to rehabilitate the Stud WR… Would have been nice if they hired a guy like Chip who has no patience for Josh Gordon and would consider unloading him for something like Huff and a 3rd round pick
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Shame we didn’t get rid of Chip Last year, Roseman could have traded Peanuts for WR Brandon Marshall, giving SAM a badass arsenal of Marshall, Jordan Mathews, Huff, Ertz and Sproles, instead of drafting Agholar we could have had Byron Jones and ROWE right now..
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Hopefully Howie can pull off some solid trades and have a quality draft this offseason…
Hope they keep Huff. I think he is Steve Smith 2.0…if he ever puts it together of course
Huff being mentioned in the same sentence as Steve Smith is beyond laughable. Huff is closer to being out of the league then actually having a productive career.
To be fair, he didn’t say which Steve Smith.
I wouldn’t trade him just to trade him, not ready to give up on him either especially when I can’t poïnt to a single WR that improved under Bicknell last year. I also think he will benefit from Pederson moving WRs around giving Huff some snaps from the slot and line him up in the backfield…
I will be very annoyed if we lose Bradford for nothing. At the very least franchise him and trade if you have to
Relax, you are talking about the starting QB of doug Pedersons Eagles 😉
1yr extension for Gus Bradley
NFL Network’s Albert Breer mentioned 49ers LBs coach Jason Tarver and Ravens LBs coach Don Martindale as candidates for the 49ers’ defensive-coordinator job.
The 49ers are back on the search after Texans LBs coach Mike Vrabel turned down the job in San Francisco. Both Tarver and Martindale have previous coordinator experience. Tarver was the Raiders’ defensive boss from 2012-2014, while Martindale was the Broncos’ coordinator in 2010.
There is a certain predictability, I think, in the pro forma respect and manners that are evident in public statements from fired and hired NFL coaches, as well as from the hirers and firers. I guess I should not be surprised to see the absence of manners and respect from self-pitying fans and hack writers. Chip Kelly did not become stupid or a braggart because he no longer works at NCC. Whatever were the reasons for his last dismal season here, I am fairly certain that the guy still has some brains and ability to apply on the gridiron. In hindsight, perhaps the power grab that gave him personnel control here was the beginning of his undoing. That was a role for which he had very little experience to draw on. For me, the dismal year 3 did nothing to erase the promise of years one and two. I have not reached a conclusion about the drama that unfolded at NCC when Roseman was temporarily ousted and Kelly was abruptly coronated. Does it offer us an insight into the mind of a control freak, or is it a picture in real time of a franchise with a five and dime FO? Or maybe a little of both?
I was, and still am a Kelly fan. I love his fearlessness. His failure here cannot be understood without the caveat that his initial contract was aborted by the owner. Failing in a weak division could be humiliating. Now Kelly is trying again in a tougher division with no possibility that a showdown with his new FO will ensue. If SF finishes a close third, Kelly’s fan base will multiply. Sitting at #7, I will be very interested to see what SF does in Round 1. I will be surprised if Kaepernick remains a 49er, but Kelly may be tempted to see if he can succeed with him where others have not. In any case, I expect to see Kelly turn more heads and trigger more discussions than he did as the Eagles HC. He loves a challenge, and I believe he is up to it. I will not be the least bit surprised if Kelly is clutching a Lombardi Trophy sooner than Jefrey Lurie.
It is disappointing how quickly people turned on him once he was fired, I suppose, but after all, this is an Eagles site. I admire a man with convictions and innovative ideas, but this season was not his best work. Putting his personnel decisions and coaching results together, “mistakes were made”. Personally, I would have given him another year, at least at coach.
maybe he wanted out of the nuthouse. Think he is really glad to be back around Gamble.
A little excerpt from Niners Nation article:
When I took the job in
Philadelphia, we had a chance to hire a personnel guy and I hired Tom,
really from my relationship in college. When you’re in college, you get
to see scouts on a daily basis, and the ones you kind of hit it off
with. I thought he had a great eye. Tommy Gamble was the guy that
brought Will Tukuafu here rom Oregon. Will played defensive end for
us, was a great player and great person, and they turned him into a
fullback, and he’s still playing fullback for the Seattle Seahawks now,
and has had a heck of a career in the National Football League. But for a
guy to come in to look at a defensive lineman and say, “I think he
could be a good fullback at the next level,” I don’t think anybody else
saw that. But that’s just the type of guy Tom is, and that struck me,
what an eye he has for talent. Tommy’s an East Coast guy, so he kind of
talks fast and in quick statements and phrases, so I understood him and
he understood me, and we just hit it off. He’s a football guy, through
and through, he just lives and breathes the game. We had a great
experience the two years I was with him in Philadelphia, and then he
came back here last year, and we’ve always kept in touch.
On comfort Gamble provides in new job:
Yeah, he’s just, the one thing
about Gam is he’s straight forward and honest. You know exactly what
his agenda is because he doesn’t have an agenda. He just wants to win,
he’s a team guy, and philosophically, we think a lot alike.
Thanks jshort. That’s a great bit of reflection from a guy who is pretty stingy sharing it. I still would love to know what Gamble did to so agitate Jeff Lurie that he was escorted from the NCC. I’m not a Lurie or a Roseman hater, but when it comes to populating a competitive FO, they often resemble keystone cops.