Meet the New Guys
Posted: March 10th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 423 Comments »Thursday was the day for the media to meet the new Eagles and to hear from Doug Pederson and Howie Roseman. If you are looking for compelling news or hard-hitting quotes…you’re reading the wrong piece.
Roseman spoke for almost 20 minutes and was the most interesting. He talked about how the Eagles really wanted to move up in the draft and used Max, Murray and Kiko to do that. Roseman admitted that gaining salary cap space was an added benefit, but tried to focus on the draft angle.
It doesn’t make any sense for him to sit up there and focus on getting rid of contracts. That leads to questions about whether the players were signed to bad contracts and whether he or Chip Kelly is more to blame. It opens a whole discussion that doesn’t benefit anyone beyond those who seem obsessed on the Howie-Chip angle. Roseman was smart to handle things as he did.
He explained that there are 10 prospects the Eagles feel are special and they are now guaranteed to get one. We’re all now trying to figure out who the 10 are and which ones the Eagles really want. I had a friend text me today to ask who I think the team will take. It still feels early for that. There could be another couple of moves to come that might affect my thinking. There are also Pro Days to track and there is draft news to gather. Plenty can still happen between now and late April.
Roseman was asked about trading Sam Bradford. He said Bradford is here to stay, but that he would listen to any offers that came along. I do not think Howie is playing games with this answer. I think he fully intends to have Bradford as the Eagles QB, but if some team is desperate and makes a desperate offer, that could change things. Understand that a desperate offer likely means more than just a 2nd round pick.
The Eagles want a strong group of QBs. Once they trade/cut Mark Sanchez, they’ll have Bradford, Chase Daniel and some rookie. That would be a position of strength. Trading Bradford would weaken that. There’s no point in doing that unless the deal is just too good to turn down.
Doug Pederson stumbled through his PC. There is no way to sugarcoat that. It wasn’t good. He was trying to give honest answers, which I do appreciate. Still, he just didn’t have the presence of a man who is running things. I know the offseason is more about the GM than the coach, but the coach still needs to project a kind of control and confidence that makes you think everything is good. Pederson had a rough day. I thought he was very good with the media down in Mobile and hoped that would help him to find a comfort zone. Didn’t happen today.
He did try to share his thoughts on the QB situation. Pederson made it clear that Bradford is #1 and Chase Daniel is #2. He didn’t say there would be no competition, but seemed to be making sure to communicate to Bradford that he will be the starter.
Ron Brooks, Rodney McLeod and Chase Daniel all spoke. Daniel explained his take on the QB situation. He’s going to do everything he can to try and win the job, while also being a good teammate and supporting Bradford. I understood where he was coming from. Daniel was trying to say that he needs to play as well as he possibly can so that puts him in the best position to steal the QB job. But he also expects Bradford to feed off this and for that to make him play even better, which would keep Daniel on the bench.
No coach wants players who are satisfied with being backups. Chip Kelly has talked about this. Andy Reid too. Coaches want players who are competitive and who expect to perform well. It is Daniel’s job to do everything he can in order to push Bradford. There may not be an open competition for the job the way there will be at LG for example, but backups can steal jobs if they outperform the starters.
McLeod and Brooks didn’t say anything too compelling. Brooks showed a good sense of humor when asked about STs and responded that he would do anything, including kicking field goals. He said his longest kick is 38 yards, so clearly he’s a short-range specialist. Seemed like a funny guy. McLeod talked about the journey of going from undrafted to being one of the highest paid DBs in the game. He also talked about the challenge of trying Β to be physical, but also being smart in today’s era of heightened player safety. That puts tremendous pressure on DBs. I seriously question how Wes Hopkins and Andre Waters could play in this environment. Dawk is gifted enough he could have adjusted, but that still would have been extremely challenging for him.
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There were no moves on Thursday.
We’ll see if things pick up or if the team is quiet for a few days. There are still some good players on the market, but the Eagles have to be careful shoppers. Brooks and McLeod are the new key players. Time to focus on some other players who happen to be good fits and just might be getting overlooked by the market.
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Honest question…
Daniel: I signed to help the Philadelphia #Eagles win a Super Bowl. https://t.co/Sgw2lrc24U and app pic.twitter.com/4luJ3IvxkH
— Philadelphia Eagles (@Eagles) March 10, 2016
Did anyone else think of Charlie Day when they saw Chase Daniel? Clearly he would be a much cleaner, classier version, but still similar.
Someone ask Chase if he wants a milksteak.
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A few GMs scared of Brent Grimes wife. I think Eagles would have to pass. She would be insane in Philly. What a circus it would be. I mean he’s played well and she gets upset about shit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brent-grimes-wife-scaring-away-133600805.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=tw
I think he should be signed just for the off-field entertainment value. She’s likely to attack Kempski after he draws a stick-figure of her.
Oh my God , that made me lol.
She could assist Doug in his pressers.
This is classic
LIES! i had beef w/falcons fans bc they said brent was weak. dolphins fan mad i called the baby ugly! BIG difference, stupid! RT @b17fortres
β Miko Grimes (@iHeartMiko) March 9, 2016
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/miko-grimes-armando-salguero-report/295949
I think we should plant a story that Jerry Jones offered him a contract with a condition that he needs to live with 3 cheerleader roommates, figuring it will cause him to ditch his wife.
Yeah, he certainly seems to be a perfect fit for Jerryworld.
More importantly, think of how his wife would go off on Jerry when she hears it.
Pederson was awkward but I do appreciate that he came out more proactive and forward in his opening statement.
To me, I’d rather have slightly awkward than essentially say nothing like Reid or tell outright lies or passive-aggressive insults like Kelly.
Came off honest about the Demarco deal. Nothing we didnt already k ow but he didnt pussyfoot.
idk i didnt notice anything bad about pedersons PC.
And chase wishes he looked like Charlie F’n Kelly!!
Pederson needs to lead with a few yells of “Are you not entertained?!!?!” in his next press conference.
Gotta Get Miko Grimes, she’ll be glad to help out.
http://i.imgur.com/OhMhs09.png
I think Rosemam is still hurting from the his previous draft where he had to reach for Marcus Smith after all his targets were taken off the board. The Eagles were in the same situation with the 13th pick. Goff and Wentz could be gone, the same with Stanley, Hargreaves, Bosa, Elliot and Jack. The Eagles could have been reaching again for a prospect they might have been able to get later in the round, the likes of Treadwell, Conklin, Lynch and Jackson have commonly been mock from The Eagles pick to the end of round 1.
Now the Eagles are guaranteed to have an upper tier prospect available at 8.
While I still dont think Roseman reached for Smith, I do think he gained valuable experience in “moving up to get your guy.”
Howie spoke music to my ears when he was talking about 8-10 blue chip players in this draft, and now we have the ability to go get one of them. I’m feeling as good about being at 8 as I was concerned to be at 13 (which I think will feel like purgatory).
agreed.
I remember a similar speech before his previous draft. How excited he was about one of his prospects playing for the Eagles… Then he missed all of them.
I know he “has” to say that every year, and you’re referring to the Marcus Smith 2 pick (which can still pan out with Schwartz).
But the last 2 times Howie had a chance to get a blue chip player we got Fletcher Cox and Lane Johnson.
In this year’s draft class, my personal opinion is that there are about 10 players who grade out at a level that is a cut above the rest, and I was kinda bummed that we would be digging through the next tier down at 13. I’m very happy with a top 10 pick in this class.
Exactly the point i was making π
With pick 8, the Eagles should be left with a difficult decision between 3-4 elite propects.
It’s a nice position to be in.
Howie owned that mega-reach, so I can’t continue to blame Chip for it…………..even though I’d like to.
Disagree… I drafted Smith in a friendly group mock draft that year in the 3RD ROUND. He was routinely mocked there.
Pass rushers were identified as a weakness in that draft.
Howie wanted other players, they were gone and he was unable to trade back… it was a clear reach.
Just because you got him in the 3rd round of a mock draft doesnt make it cannon. Howie did trade back that year with Cleveland. They were a weakness, hence you had to take them earlier. Smith was not making it out of the first. I believe Daniel Jeremiah tweeted before the draft thay Smith was going to be taken higher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsBI3Wv9stM
Mayock had Smith ranked at 53, Eagles took him at 26.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346744/article/2014-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects
So you agree with me
Actually… It seems like you agree with me.
Teams had to reach for players that should have gone later in the draft due to a lack of pass rushers. The Eagles certainly did. Daniel Jeremiah was clever enough to predict that it would happen.
I can see this conversation going around in circles.
Any chance Stanley or Hargreaves will be available at 8.For now I’m going with the playmaker DB
I think there is a great chance both will be available.
Almost certainly 1 will be at least.
Think Hargreaves will be available, stanley being available isnt out of the question either..
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Hoping the Broncos get Kapernick so Browns and Niners are almost forced to take the two QBs off the board
I’ve seen a few people say Hargreaves. Apparently Howie loves SEC guys (who doesn’t).
Man, Carolina locked down Joe Webb for two years. Webb would have been so much cheaper than Chase Daniel…
Wasn’t really joking. The Daniel contract is pretty bad for someone who’s never made it to the field for any length of time. Compare Daniel’s contract with someone else, if you prefer, like what Drew Stanton got. For an undrafted QB who signed seven years ago. Yanno, it’s really kind of a generous contract to a virtual unknown.
I doubt there is a soul on here who would think for one second that you’re joking about Webb.
While I agree that it is waay too much for a guy with no track record, I think it was important to Pederson to have a guy he was comfortable with and knows the system. Plus, there is no getting around the fact that Bradford has an injury history and sanchez sucks, so a first time head coach wanted to hedge his bet there a bit. I hate the deal, but if it’s the only splurge/head scratcher I can let Doug have it. Plus he will probably have to play some, and maybe he will turn out to be good – God knows Sanchez wouldn’t.
Mr. Galt. He is a scrappy little player who’s been in the league for six years, with six preseasons, and nobody has ever really been interested in giving him much of a chance. Just one late season game before the horrorshow at Indy. For that, you’re paying him more than you would Derek Anderson? Tarvaris Jackson? Hell you can unretire Jason Campbell with that money. People with actual record and success in the league to small degrees. This is the sort of thing that makes me very tentative about whether we have a bright future in iggleslandia.
I mean, are we even sure this is not some farcical replay of the Mike McMahon thing…
No we are not sure it isn’t mike McMahon unfortunately. I said I didn’t like the deal, but Tavaris Jackson can’t play in the WCO, Jason Campbell and Derek Anderson are 100 years old (and Detek Andrrson would have cost more at Daniels age, and while he did have a track record it was pretty bad).
Bottom line, I wouldn’t have done the deal, but I like all the other deals. If this is the only (highly) questionable one I am going to overlook it and go against all of my eagle fan instinct and be optimistic about the guy because I know the other option sucks, and i don’t know whether he sucks or not yet.
Dear gods, stop. Joe Webb is hot trash.
Confession time. I hope that this doesn’t ruin any credibility that I fantasize myself having, but I’ve always liked Webb. There, I said it.
I would like to say that I could care less how DP sounds in his press conferences right now. I am sure his public speaking and command of the room will come in time. All that matters is that he is prepared to do whatever it takes to make our team the best it can be and I will certainly give him that chance as we all will. As a fan I do appreciate his honesty and one thing I think we will see as fans with Doug is that he hates losing more than he likes to win. I am pretty sure the best fans in the world here in Philly will love that about him. That being said the only thing that really matters is winning. I can’t wait to see how we continue to improve this roster thru the rest of FA, player trades, and ultimately the draft. Draft weekend can’t get here soon enough.
“I am sure his public speaking and command of the room will come in time. ”
Let’s just hope he commands the locker room better than the press conference room.
I tend to believe he is much stronger in the locker room with his players. Being in the media spotlight at this level is new to him so he will grow into that.
If he displays clock management savvy, I don’t care if he speaks colloquial urdu. His close association with Big Red has got me wondering.
The challenge of the press conference is how to act like you are truthfully and fully answering a sensitive question when you really aren’t. It will take time for Doug to master this.
Duce’s son Damani Staley three-star linebacker from Columbia stuck with his gut and has decided to stay home and play for South Carolina.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/eye-on-college-football/25510518/son-of-south-carolina-great-duce-staley-commits-to-play-lb-for-gamecocks
Wow. Duce has a long commute from Columbia to work in South Philly every day.
arian foster is on the st.
30 year old injury prone RB, don’t the Eagles have that already in a younger Ryan Mathews?
He would be a lock if Chip was still in charge
That is for damn sure.
“and some rookie. That would be a position of strength.”
Depends on the rookie.
Sitting at 8 is certainly a lot of fun.
Round 1 Pick 8: Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 3 Pick 16: Deion Jones, OLB, LSU (B+)
Round 4 Pick 2: Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State (B-)
Round 5 Pick 14: Travis Feeney, OLB, Washington (A-)
Round 5 Pick 23: Ronald Blair, DE, Appalachian State (A)
Round 6 Pick 13: Isaac Seumalo, OG, Oregon State (B+)
Round 7 Pick 12: Deiondre’ Hall, CB, Northern Iowa (B-)
Round 7 Pick 30: Nate Sudfeld, QB, Indiana (D+)
And here is the “got get Goff” version
Round 1 Pick 6 (BALT): Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Kenneth Dixon, RB, Louisiana Tech (A+)
Round 4 Pick 2: Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State (B-)
Round 5 Pick 14: Evan Boehm, C, Missouri (B+)
Round 5 Pick 23: Harlan Miller, CB, Southeastern Louisiana (A)
Round 6 Pick 13: Jatavis Brown, OLB/SS, Akron (A-)
Round 7 Pick 12: Yannick Ngakoue, OLB, Maryland (C+)
Round 7 Pick 30: Daniel Braverman, WR, Western Michigan (B-)
Give me Jakeem Grant or give me death
Just read up on him finally. Interesting little dude.
I have a feeling we will see the eagles picking in the 2nd round (not coming from trade down compensation but through trade up compensation).
3rd and 5th = 2nd.
So the Eagles are ‘GGG’ this year?
Big Drama Show. Canelo, he’s a good boy. I’m glad to fight him.
Liking the offseason so far especially how Howie is doing things. Always been slick with cap and contracts but now damn.. Looks likes hΓ© has maybe learn from past offseason mistakes and fsilures with Kelly resulting in solid pickups especially G BRooks and thΓ© Rams safety . Also good to head into draft with no glaring needs BPA
Trying to game out the 10:
Tunsil
Stanley
Jack
Ramsey
Elliot
Bosa
I’d say 99% those six.
I’d guess both QBs (certainly at least one)
Goff
Wentz
I dont think Buckner is on our board. He’s really good, they could have a blue chip grade on him but I just don’t see where or how he fits.
So I’d guess it’s 2 of these 3 to round out the group
Hargraves
Alexander
Lawson
I don’t think it’s anywhere near a lock Elliott goes in the top 10.
I don’t either, and I sure as heck hope it isn’t to us but as far as blue chip grades, this would be my guess.
The only thing interesting during the presser was when Howie bitched slapped Jeff McLane for asking a stupid question.
Yeah that was awesome
Pederson seems like he wants to tell us everything but has to pause to try and remember what he can and can’t say…
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“The Eagles want a strong group of QBs. Once they trade/cut Mark Sanchez, theyβll have Bradford, Chase Daniel and some rookie. That would be a position of strength.” … WHAT? Strength? Our definition of strength is different. IF HR, as you say, would trade him for the right price, then Bradford is clearly not his QB of the future not does HR think he’s a “strength”. Ever hear Pats,Saints,Giants(ha),GB,Colts etc etc say they’re open to a trade for their QB’s? That’s because – that’s a true area of strength for those teams. Bradford, who I think will do OK (to pretty good) is not a strength. Chase — stinks. Maybe “stability” or cohesion — but stop it as “this is the team strength or strong”….IF they get a QB – the Eagles will be in good position — and that’s about it…
Thought the article the other day said “good match” — suddenly we add a bad back up and we’re strong! lmao.
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I have to ask, what is it that you expect out of a backup qb? You were ranting yesterday about how Sanchez isn’t a good backup and now you’re complaining about Daniel as a backup. They are backup QBs for a reason, you’re not going to have a Drew Brees type of HOF QB as the backup. So who would you sign to play backup, Aaron Rodgers I presume?
you’re mis-reading my point. I don’t care about a back up – on any team, unless he’s a young qb being groomed. Outside of that — nobody really gives a shit about a back up. I don’t care how much money Chase is making either(Pederson obviously wanted to reward him because – as he said – reminds him of him)….
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The point is — this QB group(whoever the 3rd string is) is not a “strength”. That’s the point.
D3FB – with two starting tackles already on the roster – would the Eagles consider an OT at 8? I view 8 as a position(aside from QB) that they could find someone to contribute right away. An OT would sit for a year(at least) and that may be ok. Is Stanley that strong of a player? (read – is he a monster)
He’s very very good. He’s got legit LT feet (which is rare). He can’t play guard (at least it wouldn’t be good). Alot of people have made the Tunsil=Trent Williams, Stanley=Okung.
He’s absolutely worth pick 8.
I think if you take him you tell Peters “Ok you said aint nobody here good enough to play LT better than me” look at the rest of the OL now. Piss off and play LG or we’ll cut you. Obviously more diplomatically.
With his confidence and the way he talks, you just may have to lay it to Peters in that exact fashion.
I mean he’s being kept because he’s such a big presence in the locker room as well.
I think you would try to sugarcoat it, appeal to him wanting to make the team better, tell him he you won’t ask for a pay reduction and maybe a small bonus or something.
Agreed pal.
Also have to keep in mind the old school Andy Reid preference for playing Ts at G. I take your word that Stanley isn’t going to do well at G (and it would be questionable to pick a G at 8 IMO anyway), but with perhaps going back to the Juan Castillo style OL, they might try to pull that off until the inevitable happens and Peters misses a game (or 3). Once Stanley comes in at RT and Lane shifts to LT, Peters suddenly has to displace Lane and maybe will be able to accept that he’s not the LT anymore.
I’m curious to see how much zone blocking the OL is going to be doing this year – it obviously isn’t going away completely, but it certainly seems like they’re thinking of at least shifting away from its prevalence with the signing of that G.
It’s less about Andy playing T’s at G (also Sean and Todd were better G’s that could play T rather than the inverse) and more about alot of college teams use their best OL at T, even if they project better inside in the pros. It’s a different skillset. But just because Whitehair and Stanley both played LT in college doesn’t mean they project similarly. They have different abilities, which suits Stanley to be a T and Whitehair a G.
Brooks ran about 70/30 zone/gap split in Houston. I’d expect something similar here.
Ok. I’m on board then with this selection(if they take him)….thanks.
If they select Stanley, does that mean you would prefer him at LT versus Lane Johnson?
I’d try Lane at LT because he’s being payed like one. If it doesn’t work out then you suck it up move Lane back to RT and you have a ready made LT. Worst case you have bookend tackles who both are studs in pass pro.
I don’t want them to take Bosa, Elliot, Treadwell, or any QBs with #8 pick.
Don’t thiink we have to worry about Treadwell, unlikely we spend the 8th pick on a WR who is Probably an inferior prospect to Agholar
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they probably could have had him at 13 — why move up? HR said the goal was to move up in the draft. If that’s his goal, Treadwell isn’t his target.
Im not even sure if he will be the first WR drafted,,
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Crazy long shot prediction no one will agree with: I won’t be surprisd if the Micheal Thomas kid from Ohilo state ends up being the first WR drafted..
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corey Coleman or Micheal Thomas could leap frog Treadwell as the first WR drafted
That’ll be interesting to watch — which WR goes first — and where rb’s fall….
I didn’t want Treadwell at 13
I would not mind Elliott or Goff. I agree to Bosa, Treadwell, and Wentz.
Howie said he thinks there are 10 elite talents in this draft, wonder who they are
.. Easy assumption would be Tunsil, Wentz, Ramsey, Jack, Goff, Buck, Bosa,Hargreaves, Stanley, Elliot but I would bet 1-2 of those aren’t actually who he was talking about
Hargreaves is my only question… Im not sure he is a top 10 talent, and I could see Shaq,Lawson take his spot among the top 10 players Roseman is talking about.
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Hargreaves is one of our bigger Needs, but no one in their right mind would Εet need factor into what they do with such a high pick. When it comes to #8, Need and positional value will be nothing more than a tie breaker to help decide between two kids with the same grade…im not sure Hargreaves is that special top 10 corner,, or if he goes in the 11-17 range
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Ramsey (trade up if he falls to #6), JACK ATTACK, Zeke, Stanley, hope we end up with one of them.
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Bosa, Hargreaves, Goff, Buckner don’t interest me much, cant make up my mind about Lawson
Definitely wouldn’t take VH3 at 8. If the prospects, who ever they are, are gone by 8 then they must explore all options to trade down. Apple and Alexander are corners that can be had in the mid to late first round. Basically let’s hope they don’t reach for someone.
If we have top tier blue chip grades on 10 kids, I would think it’s highly unlikely that we trade down…. For them to trade down, I would think we would have to see 3 unexpected prospects to jump into the top 7, pushing 3 kids we view as blue choppers down to 11, 12, and 13 and if we can trade back two spots and still get one of the blue chippers that really the only scenario I can see us trading out of the #8 spot.
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We have a lot of good players, but we only have 1 Blue Chip Game Changer, Fletcher Cox….. I can’t see trading back getting more picks, being more important than trying to get a star that we lack in the top 10
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I would think that there is a better chance that we trade up to like #6, than seeing us move out of the top 10…we already have a nice amount of picks, I can’t see us choose more picks instead of getting the 8th best player..
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I would think we probably just sit out at #8, but if there is a kid like Ramsey who we have a top 3 grade on, miraculously falls to #6, I would hope we give serious consideration to moving up to snatch him
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Personally, an extra 2nd round pick, more likely an extra 3rd round pick ismt even close to being worth an opportunity to grab a top 10 prospect. Id be pretty annoyed to see them move backwards..
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Chip cared about speed and quantity, I am hoping we make the switch to focusing on quality
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Heard a few rumors That NFL people don’t like Hargreaves As much as the mock community thinks, but that was months ago before the coaches start familiarizing themselves with prospects so that could be false, or it could change.. I see a good CB prospect, but I don’t see a Special NFL star player in Hargreaves, Ramsey is the Only DB I would want in the top 10
I guarantee thry trade out of the 8th spot. Guarantee
No one cares about your guarantees.
Whether we agree or disagree, whether you end up right or wrong, whether you disappear again or stick around.
Readers here don’t lack conviction, think you are smart or think you are dumb. Readers here just don’t care to stake out their ground and yell about how right they are until something happens. You are looking for Philly dot com.
Around here, no one cares about your guarantees.
(I will no return to my regularly scheduled ignoring.)
Why do you bother?
Although I know it won’t happen, I think people need to get over the idea that Doug is looking to replace Sam, in the near or distant future.
My personal opinion of the draft is that Howie and Doug are looking to draft either Tunsil, Stanley, or Conklin. I see the move up as a guarantee in their eyes that one of these guys will be there at #8.
Don’t burst ANYONES fantasy bubble, March is for dreamers
Did you know you can rearrange the letters in “March is for dreamers” to get “Lets draft ZEKE!”?
You made me look to see if there was a Z in “March is for dreamers.” That’s 2 seconds of my life I want back.
and your qb of the future is? Again — if they loved Bradford and he was the answer – he would have had a longer contract. Can Bradford flourish and re-sign – absolutely. But this deal gives the Eagles flexibility to find the future QB. If you can’t see the signals, we can’t help you. No need for you to be concerned with the people who see them….
I assume you think their QB of the future will be taken at pick #8?
I think either this year or next year, they are drafting a QB. I wouldn’t be shocked if they do or shocked if they don’t. What I would like — if for them to find that 1 guy they really love and believe in – and go get him. That guy might not be in this draft. Until they find him, signing Bradford was the best move…
Think it’s a lock that we draft a QB this year, but I don’t believe it will happen in rounds 1 or 2, at least I hope not
Pretty much guarantee that it doesn’t happen in the 2nd, unless Howie works some more magic.
Very much yes… I hope they love one of these guys and have a chance to get him. And if they don’t love one of these top QBs get a player that is elite at another position. This team needs another game changer.
The deal gives the Eagles a year to find out. They may not be sure if they love Bradford or not yet, which is what that deal sort of says to me. And that Daniel deal almost looks as if he’s a hedged bet on a starter after this year as well. Those deals feel more like they would prefer to take a QB later in the draft and hope to get lucky with him (it’s possible they are not enthralled with any of the top 3 QBs, or are pretty sure the one they want will be gone).
But it will be interesting to see what happens if one of the QBs is there at 8. It’s even possible someone will offer a ransom to trade up, and we’d have to think about it.
Bingo. They still need to find out about Bradford. Nothing is guaranteed.
Huh? I said Doug isn’t looking to replace Sam. I did not say Sam was the guaranteed starter for the next 10 years. Thanks for snarky reply anyway.
but that makes zero sense. Don’t you want a QB for the next 10 years? I certainly do…IF Sam ISN”T your QB for the next 10 years(again, maybe he flourishes) then you need to find his replacement….
You imply that if Doug and Howie really believed in Sam, they would have locked in up into a long-term deal. You seem to forget that Tom Condon was the agent on the other side of the table.
I imagine the Eagles had two choices with Condon, 1.) either lock Sam up to a long-term deal that would have absolutely crushed the franchise financially if Sam didn’t pan out via injury or by under performing (al la the Tony Romo contract which has a $20M cap hit if he is cut after the 2016 season at 36 years old), or 2.) sign a short-term deal for less money than the franchise tender that can be renegotiated or extended if Sam plays well and proves to be a franchise QB.
Condon is not the type of agent to sign those pay as you go contracts some other QBs signed like Kaep or Dalton. If you sign a 5 or 6-year contract with Condon for a QB, the team cannot get out of them without huge dead money cap hits until at least year 5 is finished.
It seems logical to think Howie and Doug believe in Sam, but given his injury history, did not want to troll the dice on a 5 or 6 year deal. Doug has made it clear they will be drafting a QB this year to develop, but the talk that Sam will be traded, Chase Daniel can be an effective starter, a QB will be picked with #8, or that a 3rd or 4th round QB will be anything more than another stopgap is nonsense.
Everyone WANTS one.. Doesnt mean you can get one whenever you want…
CONKLIN ISN’T THAT GOOD!
But hey, you have an average G or RT, too bad he’s blocking for no one.
I’m surprised no one is clamoring for Jeff Fisher the way so many people want us to become the Rams.
Not that good for pick #8? Not that good for the first round?
He wasn’t good enough for 13. I mean if I’m a playoff team looking to replace a a G or RT (think Arizona/NE), yea ok, but if I’m picking in the top 20? He’s an average G or RT. That’s not moving the needle on your franchise.
Since when did consensus first round draft picks become average, or do you think he will be overdrafted and should be drafted in the third or fourth round? I get it, you don’t like guy, but it seems most scouts think he is pretty darn good.
He’s going to be overdrafted. He’s Riley Reiff. He’s Bryan Bulaga. He’s ok. Drafting Conklin at 8 would be the equivalent of a weak infield single. Sure you didn’t strike out but you didn’t change much long term either.
Plenty of consensus first round picks are pretty average players. And that’s ok. But sure as heck not at 8.
I apologize for my ignorance, I didn’t realize you were a full-time scout.
No but I played OL collegiately and have written draft stuff for this site before.
http://scoutsnotebook.com/2015/03/01/scouting-report-ot-brandon-scherff/
http://scoutsnotebook.com/2015/02/06/scouting-report-ot-ty-sambrailo/
You played college football and wrote some articles on a blog? That settles it then, I’ll just ignore all the people that scout full time and analyze players for a living and wait with baited breath for your scathing opinion of top prospects that just don’t hold muster in your opinion.
Seriously, if you want to provide your opinion on why you like or dislike a guy with some actual reasoning and examples, I would welcome and apprciate your input. When you come across as an I’m smarter than the professionals know it all, it’s impossible for me to value anything you say.
Grades (not mocks)
CBS has him 19th
NFL has him 16th
Optimum has him 16th
So all of those “pros” think he would be a garbage pick at 8.
And none of that accounts for positional premium.
He’s got pretty blah feet. He’s got no chance to stick at LT. He’s powerful but he’s got alot of technique issues and mainly gets by bulllying guys. So underwhelming athleticism and technique. I don’t think he plays RT unless you babysit him with protections and playcalling or he takes a massive jump. He lacks either the sheer nastiness of a guy like Scherff or the technicians ability of a Martin or Whitehair as a G. Like I said if you’re picking in the 20s and need a day 1 starter on the cheap he’s going to be a good pick. He’s just never going to be anything more than an average NFL OL.
And I’m sorry you don’t think I have the credentials to talk about OL draft prospects, I’m sure Mel Kipers hair and beat reporters who can’t explains the pros and cons of 43 vs 33 as a nickel D will set you straight on the intricacies of OL play.
i hate Jeff Fischer, the fact he is mentioned in the same breath as Reid just because of tenure infuriates me.
Who are some of the FA WR names left?
Andre Holmes
streater
nate Washington
Anquan Boldin (I would prefer SPEED instead of Big, old and slow
Rueban Randle yuck
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Who else is still available
Where is Momah? π
If Justin Blackmon could get his head out of his ass, I would take a flier on him.
I don’t think he will ever play in the NFL again, and I would think that Hue Jackson will want to try and make it work with Josh Gordon before they give up on him… Unfortunately it’s a crappy year for FA WRs and for WRs in the draft. . Greg Lewis has his work cut out for Him
Chris Givens for depth. He’s been a disappointment and redundant to Huff but if he’s cheap they can use speed.
https://youtu.be/VtAkOblXq-o
So if Stanley, Hargreaves and either Wentz or Goff are there at 8, who would you guys pick out of the 3 players?
Most likely one of the QBs depending on who Pederson likes more. If not them then Stanley.
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Hargraves
Your saying you like Goff . . .
A QB
agreed, hard to get this high in the draft if you have a somewhat decent team, which i think the eagles do. so you gotta go for a qb.
HR said he wanted to move into the top 10. He has someone in mind that wouldn’t be there at 13. This year, sounds like he’s not praying(like do) their favorite player falls to him. I like the initiative of moving up. Maybe he does have a QB in mind…who knows…
Stanley… Hate Hargreaves, goff and Wemtz at 8
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And if Stanley has to spend his rookie year on our bench, Even better!
Stanley.
I’d like the OL, but looking at both QBs we have signed now (I’m not even thinking about Sanchez any more) with two-year and three-year contracts, it’s obvious neither one of them are expected to the long term guy. So selecting a QB if one is there probably makes sense.
Based on who you listed, Goff, then VH3. Out of the above, I think VH3 will be the most likely to be there at 8.
Wentz and let him sit a year or two
I’m starting to think that this defense has a chance to be VERY good (not historically, but maybe on the cusp of a top 5 defense for 2016) this year. Billy Davis has a track record of leaving and having someone else come in and take his players and make a very good defense.
The biggest problem with the defense in 2015, IMO, was the linebackers as the season wore on. That’s a recipe for a bad 3-4 2 gap defense, where linebackers are the premier position – they’re supposed to be the playmakers. Switching back to a 4-3 means that the DL becomes the playmakers, and especially in a 4-3 that utilizes the wide 9 consistently.
Speaking of the wide 9, Schwartz has mentioned that he turned to it in DET heavily because his best playmakers were DTs. Well, that just happens to be the most talented position group on this team, IMO. Cox is obviously going to shine, and Bennie Logan’s shown a fair bit to make me think he will do well 1 gapping. Vinny Curry, as a DT, is a nightmare when 1 gapping, because his first step is too much for most guards.
Schwartz historically doesn’t blitz much, so linebackers in his system seem to be more role players than playmakers. And as we all should be fairly well aware of, the Eagles devalued linebackers in the JJ years (cap management requires some positions be devalued relative to others), but they’re starting with some decent high round talent (admittedly underachieving so far) who might be more than capable of just being the role players that this system expects them to be, instead of being the playmakers they were required to be the last few years.
CB is a weakness, but safety suddenly looks like it might be a top 5 pairing in the league. They might be able to cover some of the weakness at CB, and if the pass rush is as good as hoped, the CBs’ jobs get much easier.
Finally, Cox and Curry have some familiarity with the wide 9 – it won’t be brand new to them.
There certainly are reasons to doubt this analysis, but if I were a betting man (and I’m not, at all) I think I would put money on this defense being better than expected this year. On the other hand, the offense is a complete question mark to me.
I don’t know how soon it will take effect, but I do exoect Schwartzy to take this defense to new heights.. While most are excited about replacing Billy with Schwartz, im just as Excited about no longer having a Head coach who dictates to our DC what he can or can’t do with his defense. I hated that about chip. hated that he insisted on what style defense billy had to run, when everyone knew our personnel was a better fit for other schemes. I hated that Chip demanded his press man cornwrs on the outside with single high safety, when maybe our corners could have done better if we used Maxwell similar to how Josh Norman is used.. josh Norman these days is on top of the world, but if we took him out of Carolina and put him in Maxwells shoes last year, Id exoect a similar Dissapointing season as Maxwell.
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Im very Excited about Schwartz, but im probably even more excited about no longer having Chip dictate what our defensive coordinator can or can not do.. Im excited to Γ±ow have a coach who will trust his DC, and give him the freedome to use his players any way he sees fit. Schwartz has a lot of defensive knowledge and it’s great to have a coach that will give him the freedome to run whatever the hell he thinks our players can do best…
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Our defensive personnel is coming together nicely, but we still have plenty of Bulding to do on the defense..
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#1 Need is hopefully bringing back Nolan Carroll until we draft and Develope a better starter which could take a couple of years
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#2″Gonna have to draft another Beast of a DT. Beau, Cox, and Logan are all stout against the run, so I need this data additon to be able to backΓΌp Cox and bring an interior pass rush to our unit
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#3) we need More LB’s… We replaced Kiko with Nigel, but we still have the same holes at backΓΌp LB. Najee Good is the only backup I really trust, Acho could make the roster, but that still leaves us with a need at backΓΌp Strong Side LB
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CB and DT are our biggest, must address, immediate needs… A lot to like about where this defense is headed, but we still have plenty of work to do. Hopefully we sigΕ Nolan, and hit on 2 or 3 defenders in this draft..
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The most exciting aspect of the defense, is that for the first time since Mikkell and Dawk, we won’t have to look for a starting safety next offseason. To finally have stability and starting talemt at Safety is a god send
I think Curry is a 4-3 DE. He can stunt and take some DT plays, but I think his pass rushing strength would be negatively impacted by staying between the ends. I don’t see Schwartz sticking with Bair and Hart, and it’s anybody’s guess if Barwin can have pass rushing success without Cox and Logan engaging 3 or 4 bodies. To me, Curry at end, Bennie and Cox at DT is a strong core, but a player or two away from very good.
You’re dismissing the best 4-3 DE on the roster, Brandon Graham. I do think we should wait to pass judgement on this line but it can be very good to an elite line.
I like Graham, but elite DL’s don’t show a marked drop off from unit 1 to unit 2, and Graham is probably first unit. Who do we have coming in to relieve Cox, Logan, Curry and Graham? Their over use will show in the 4th quarter, and if you want to infer my expression of an opinion as passing judgement prematurely, knock yourself out.
It’s also called good coaching that results in substituting players correctly to keep them fresh, like that you can mix and match backups with starters. Also coming from the way the previous regime practiced and played I don’t see fatigue being such a big factor especially if the offense resembles anything close to a normal offense. Also don’t get your panties in a bunch I was speaking in generalities about waiting to pass judgement on the dline not telling you directly.
yeah, my panties are fine, thank you v. much, but I just react to pie-in-the-sky prognostications with a dose of vinegar this time of the year. I love that we got an upgrade at G, and a decent playmate for MJ, the unloading of Murray AND moving up to 8. But our DL is a work in progress, I believe. I think Schwartz knows what he is doing, so I ‘ll just wait for the draft like everyone else. I do agree that play-calling should be definitely improved, but I will be more than a little surprised if the current DL is intact next September.
The D-line is one of the few strengths on this roster!
Almost all of the defensive lineman to play under Schwartz have had more sacks in his system than other systems. That’s not pie-in-the-sky.
I think projecting our D, as it is today to be top 5 is too sweet for my palate. I expect improvement, and I am elated we got Schwartz. I just think our D is a couple of exceptional players short of being rock solid.
I expect them to be better and to be exciting. I think our line will be great and I think the safeties will be very good. But everything in between is a question mark at this point so I’d agree the Eagles D is far from rock solid.
I assume a DT with a Focus on interior pass rush ability will be a priority in the draft with Thornton gone and Hart/Bair not expected to be here this year. Cox, Logan, Beau bring plenty of run stuffing ability but we have to add an interior pass rusher to line up next to run stuffing Beau on our second unit… a backup 3Technique
Completely agree. It may get interesting for fans of the Birds D to see how Schwartz’s no-thinking-allowed system affects Marcus Smith’s play. The guy has the size and speed to be disruptive, so here’s hoping. I was surprised that Kiko was dealt, and I assume that was green-lighted by Schwartz, and bringing in Bradham adds some stability to LB’s, but I do think JS won’t leave DL in its present state.
I don’t think bill is proposing moving Curry inside full time. In sub packages, Curry can be a holy terror on the inside, and it gets all 4 of your best pass rushers on the field if it’s Graham-Curry-Cox-Barwin.
Delusions. Last year an injury to eagles rookie LB and then the defense fell off a cliff. Unfortunately no changes this off season will prevent that.
Yes, they were bad last year and will never be god again. Brilliant observation :-/
haha that was the most negadelphian thing i’ve ever read, possibly.
are you high?
leave us out of this bro being high doesn’t do that
preachin to the choir
Effective 4 man pass rush is what I am hoping for.
that’s the key straight up. that makes everything go
i think we have the talent to do it and that literally is like “cheating” with a defense lol
That’s ideal for sure, and it’s what Schwartz will strive to build here. But even if he doesnt like to blitz much, he will make sure he uses our players strengths, so Kendricks ability to Blitz won’t go to waste.
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But if we can ever reach that poΓ―nt where our pass Rush is a menace only sending 4, thats a big advantage… If we aren’t there yet, our personnel shouldn’t be too far away.. Slightly above average Giant teams won 2 Super Bowl carried by their front 4’s ability to generate a pass rush
Geagle ?
not enough random capitalizations, strange character variants, and typos
I basically forgot to put a space between on the returns between my paragraphs. Oh well.
Anyone see the new “Always Sunny”? Mac is gay and a closet Cowboys fan hahahaha.
damn i need cable
this was a good season
Bird Law!
Dennis finds out and starts just screaming at Mac “you son of a bitch” over and over, while Charlie starts cawing like an Eagle at him lol
or Hulu
that would rule. i live in the woods so the only internet is satellite which means data cap. yes it’s terrible. not having neighbors makes it a lot better, and there’s a rumor that comcast is coming soon.
I got rid of all but basic (really basic) cable, my Comcast TV bill is now $11 a month. Got Apple TV and with Hulu and Netflix I’m actually enjoying TV more than before. Much more user friendly, I can for example watch any season/show of It’s Always Sunny that I want.
i’d be on that in a sec. we used to stream netflix too. damn this data cap (also satellite internet craps out if it rains, snows, or is foggy)
if you are willing to wait, use netflix to get dvds. sure, you’ll always be a few seasons behind, but theres never a shortage of good stuff to watch.
that’s what we do now. it rules but there’s just so many things to watch!
yea, i hear ya. i get 2 at a time and can only go through my queue so fast. it works really well for tv shows where you can sometimes get a whole season on two discs.
the worst is when they only
put like three episodes on one disc
If I’m not mistaken, you can stream the whole series on Netflix.
I think you might be the first person I know that would be excited to GET Comcast.
any port in a storm
Netflix.
omg. i need to get caught up in this show. i think i must have lost interest a few years ago, but heard nothing but great things about the last few seasons
I was yelling at the TV like Charlie, Dennis, and Frank did when Dee ratted him out about that. “Of course its a Romo jersey” lol I couldn’t stop laughing.
Any news on Russell Okung? Need him to leave his visit with the Giamts without signing a contract
Hoping they give him a nice huge, fully guaranteed, even for his inevitable injuries, contact
Cardales Mechanics, specifically his footwork look very inconsistent at the Ohio St. pro day..
This was the first press conference I can remember where I was legimately impressed by Roseman. He was composed speaking to his audience and not at them. He avoided any sarcastic remarks, provided executive-level answers to questions that addressed them without giving away too much, and was in control from the get go.
Maybe he was legimately learned from his year in exile.
Yeah, he was definitely prepared. He got pretty tested when Jeff (McLane?) asked him about the contracts from last year though, saying it was off-topic. I thought he had some good things to say though.
Pederson not inspiring confidence
Try this book, it might help…http://www.amazon.com/Confidence-Confident-Situation-Overcoming-Charisma-ebook/dp/B01BWMVOMC/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1457718663&sr=1-4&keywords=confidence
i don’t get the concern. who cares if he no talk good
i have to say, this must be one of my favorite disqus names out there. but its very specific to eagles sites. do you use this name for other disqus sites too? haha
The neckbeard never tells.
I just read an article by Lombardo “Ron Jaworski praises Doug Pederson for naming Sam Bradford Eagles’ starter”. I can’t be the only one who reads Jaws’ quotes with is voice tone and inflections in my head.
My good sir, you are not. I also do not limit myself to reading just Jaws’s content with his voice in my head. There are a lot of things I read that, to me, sound like the sweet dulcet tones of Jaws’s awkward pauses and emphases.
Brent Grimes to Bucs; more importantly, Miko NOT to us.
https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin/status/708349099444023296
Howie’s on fire. Just traded Sanchez to the Broncos. Trade versus cut means a difference of around $1M in cap. Total cap savings $4.5M (versus $3.5M if cut).
wow. howie is really building up some good fortune with the fans this offseason
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Broncos traded for former Eagles and Jets QB Mark Sanchez, as @MikeKlis reported. Broncos gave Eagles a conditional 7th round pick in 2017.
and a nugget
if there was any way to accept less in a trade, we would have done that instead. but hey, the real compensation here is the $
Funny some Broncos fans are petrified he’s the only one they will get.
Don’t forget about the extra 2017 7th rounder we’ll get when we trade Caleb Sturgis during training camp.
Taylor Hart and ryan Mathews should also get dealt by the end of the draft Fingers crossed. But keeping Ryan Mathews for a year wouldn’t be terrible either
Oh yeah, I forgot about Hart. Some 3-4 team will want him.
not even a little curious about hart as a backup dt?
I don’t think he’s ever been anything other then a 3-4 DE, also watching him trip over his feet makes me wonder if he can even play DT in an attacking 4-3. Trade him.
There are tons of DTs in this draft you can plug in as backup.. Hart isn’t special. There are so many. Even
guys like Ioannidis, Henry, Heath, Hargrave, Ward. You could take Zettel and make him a backup DE/DT. Those are examples of mid to late rounders maybe.
yeah but he’s like our fourth or whatever. why make a hole when . . . eh who cares it’s just taylor hart. cut him trade him send him to Camden
No, he is always on the ground which is the worst thing a DL could do..
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I wouldnt quit on him if we were still Playing a 3-4, but I can’t wait to get him out of here now… Although, I acknowledge that we make have to keep him for a year… He would be our #4th DT, and we would need to keep at least 5 on our roster for injuries I would thnk… But im holding out hope that someone like Raciti or some other Undrafted DT can step up and make the roster which would give us 4 DT, and the 5th would undoubtably be drafted this year… So im hoping to get him out of here, but i can see a scenario where we are stuck with him for another year
Good thing Howie Couldnt trade Sanchez… Our supreme Leader keeps knocking them out the Park!! he has given me almΓ²st everything I wanted and so much more (miami deal, and trading Demarco which was thought to almΓ²st be impossible..
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Few Key things left on our supreme Leaders To do list:
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1) Bring Back Nolan Carroll, with Thurmond and Boykin as fallback options
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2) Add a veteran WR for depth
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3) Trade Ryan Mathews and get at least a 5th that we paid for Sproles
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4) Trade Taylor Hart, player for player swap, or use him to trade Up in a round like Murray
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5) be great if he manages to also trade Caleb Sturgis in a Murray type trade
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6) Explore Trades for a starting outside WR.. Torrey smith?
But producing a quality draft is far and above Rosemans most important Offseason test.
So Far, he has done a fantastic job
Personally I keep Sturgis. Trade him when one of them wins job. If not oh well we’ll get over it.
yea, i dont see much benefit to dealing him now. thats a move for the middle of pre-season
I know you love Zeke, but assuming we don’t draft a RB at 8, who carries the ball next year if #3 happens?
“assuming we don’t draft a RB at 8, who carries the ball next year if #3 happens?”. One of the other 10 quality RBs coming out in the draft to be had in the later rounds? No need to be focused on only Elliot, even though he is really good, because RBs can be found outside the 1st.
I don’t know that Zeke is a top 10 RB…I Know he is absolutely a first round RB who would instantly be the best RB in the NFCEast, but i don’t know if teams will view him as a great RB who should go in the 11-20 range, or if he will be viewed as that rare special RB worthy of a top 10 pick. If it turns out that he isnt a top 10 RB, he is pretty damn close, close enough to make this a legit debate, and im someone who would rarely even consider a RB in the top 10, but this kid is a Cant miss stud who at the very least should get serious consideration at #8..
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But there are as handful of guys who are viewed as top 10 guys who I could easily see fall into the 10-15 range.. hargreaves, ZEKE, even Ronnie Stanley I can see possibky falling out of the top 10
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If the Eagles feel as Tho Zeke is worth the #8 pick, I can understand why..ZEKE or no ZEKE, im open to trading Ryan Mathews, or keeping him for next year and then unloading him, whatever they decide is fine by me….if it’s Not going to be ZEKE, I would pass on the Henrey kid. I just don’t love his game..after him im not familiar enough with the rest of the RB draft class, but worst case scenario we can platoon for a season with sproles, a rookie in rounds 3 to 5, and maybe someone like Polk?
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What I do know is by the end of next years offseason, I think Murray, SPROLES and Ryan shoudl all be gone, and replaced with youmg legs
Zeke is a top 10 back. He’s a breakaway back, explodes through holes, has incredible lateral movement, and he’s best pass blocker you’ll find coming out of college (great for Sam) but I think they’re looking at QBs much to your dismay haha.
Did you see the tweet of him today talking on the phone and effortlessly catching the ball one-handed? The guy is going to be really, really good. But I agree, I don’t think he is going to be an Eagle.
Adrian Peterson is a HoF running back who carried the Vikings for years. Its my firm belief that he will end up as top 5 in all time rushing yards.
Adrian Peterson was overdrafted and was not a top 10 running back. It has nothing to do with Adrian Peterson, theres just no RB thats a top 10 running back in todays game.
I disagree.Zeke is a top 10 back. Show me a comparison on Youtube of a back with his breakaway speed at his prototypic size and incredible lateral agility, athleticism, burst and good pass blocking.
When you can do that then you may be able to sway me he isn’t a franchise back and a player I don’t want to consider. This draft doesn’t have Macks or Von Millers or Amari Coopers. Zeke is an elite talent.
David Johnson is around the same size as Elliot and he was a 3rd round RB that shined this past year.
Who is the Zeke Elliott you can guarantee will be there in the 3rd round?
Tom Brady was a 6th rounder. Brees 2nd, Wilson 2nd. Rodgers late 1st. Runyan was like a 5th. What was Norman? 4th? Lavonte David was a 2nd.
Johnson isn’t even half the back Elliot is..the only valid point he has is that they are around the same size.
Except one has already had a lot of success in his NFL rookie year and the other hasn’t stepped on the field yet. How can you say Johnson isn’t half the back when he has played at a high level in the NFL? Flawed logic. I guess Todd Gurley isn’t half the back that Elliot is either right?
Is De’Anthony Thomas better than Elliot because he’s in the NFL just because he’s older? What a joke of an argument.
Your argument is the real joke. What has Thomas done in the NFL? Please go into details. Oh that is right he has done absolutely nothing in the league as compared to Gurley and Johnson who were 2 of the better RBs in all of the NFL in their rookie years. Like I said initially before you came with nonsense replies, you can find RBs in every round of the draft that can come in and have success. The best RB in the draft doesn’t always translate to NFL success.
You’re arguing with yourself at this point. None of this is even valid with the initial argument and you’re beating up a strawman at this point.
Again that argument applies to everyone.
and again like I said if you want a RB you don’t need to take the top one of the draft, there a RBs to be had in later rounds. I don’t know if you watch college football, but if you do you would see that my point is valid. For this Eagles team right now there is no need to take a RB in the top 10 when there are other holes to fill. That is a luxury.
Again. You can say that for every position.
Johnson had 1/4 of his carries vs us a team that quit on their coach and needed a speech from Lurie. He didn’t do well vs. SF and Seattle. He had 3 good games. He doesn’t have great vision or explosiveness like Elliott. He can rumble like Ryan Mathews somewhat.
Very true. Johnson could be a good starter eventually and that’s pretty normal for a 3rd rounder. IMO, Elliot has top 5 RB potential but there’s a bunch of good RBs coming out of college soon. So Elliot might not be that hot of a commodity for some teams.
SF didn’t have a good defense this year too.
Unless you’re a RB who can literally pull of Bo Jackson in Tecmo Bowl, a great does not carry a team to wins.
Its why the Seahawks paid Russ Wilson and aren’t incredibly sad by a great RB like Lynch hanging em up early. Its why the only borderline succesfull season from the Vikes was not a product of Purple Jesus, but having a QB. He literally came within 10 yards of beating a borderline unbreakable record, and the Viking pulled the 6th seed and lost their first play-off game.
A good running game is incredibly helpfull to a team. You still cannot build around a RB.
Lynch has carried the Seahawks in the playoffs more than Wilson has though..
I completely disagree.
Did you watch them in their last Super Bowl appearance?
Marshawn Lynch and that defense makes that team very good. Russell Wilson makes the team great and capable of winning the SB.
Lynch was great and I love me some Purple Jesus. Doesn’t change the fact that a RB does not win you se Super Bowl
He would have if Pete Caroll didn’t decide to put their fate in WIlsons hands especially when Lynch was running hot on the last drive..
I f he doesn’t think Lynch wasn’t important and a great player I am speechless.
Lynch is both. He was just not as important as Wilson, Baldwin, Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor, Maxwell, KJ Wright, Bobby Wagner, Bruce Irvin/Malcolm Smith, Bennett, Mebane and Avril.
One could argue that a lot of the OL players was more important too, since the major difference for the Hawks this season was not Lynch who they was able to replace with a UDFA for several games with literally no drop-off, but the horrific OL play in the beginning that caused losses, the much improved OL play in the end that gave them wins, but overall, mediocre OL play compared to the previous years that sent them out earlier than those years.
First off I do think they’re angling for a QB but if they don’t like one who is the guaranteed incredible alternative player at 8 you’re building around?
You can’t build around a RB. Marshawn Lynch was in Seattle for 2 years, but that didn’t change that team.
The Vikings have tried building around one of the best RBs ever for 10 years and they’ve accomplished jack shit. Are people talking about how much better they’ll be if All Day has another 2012? Nope, its all about Teddy B and that defense.
RB is literally the bottom 7 in terms of importance of positions. Basically only ahead of LS, P, K and FB. Theres an argument to to made for interior OL men being less important. Teams grab RBs of the street and get production.
Sounds like that HoF RB LaDainian Tomlinson
I know you didnt ask me the question but my hope is that we draft either CJ prosise or kenneth dixon in the 3rd rd.
Prosise has nearly the same measurables as zeke…nad has great hands (was a former receiver). Hes not a stud like zeke and is and is inexperienced at RB..only played a year i think…. so pass protection is an issue which is a large part of the reason hes projected as low as the 3rd rd. We can have him behind mathews on the depth chart and start full time next year after we let mathews go
I am a huge Kenneth Dixon fan. I’ve brought his name up before as a possible later round target.
Deez thinks “my dixon your chin” .. sorry i have a deeeez nuts joke addiction
Wish we had Barner, Josie or Mostert would be fine… get any one of them back…
6) makes me wonder what it would take to get Josh Gordon
Haha Eagles fans on twitter are mad we are only getting a conditional 7th! Who do they think Sanchez is?? Everyone should be ecstatic we were able to shed his entire 4.5 million salary and got a pick for him. He would have been cut anyway!
I would have been happy had they paid him that $1 mill just to never see him in an Eagles jersey again! This way it’s even better!
The fact that Howie could get anything for Sanchez, Murray, and Maxwell astounds me, especially given Murray and Maxwell’s contracts.
Crazy that Sanchez’s cap hit this year was higher than Chase Daniel’s, too. So, that supposedly bad contract is now a wash.
And Chip, by contrast, cut Desean and Mathis for nothing.
bingo!
Can you imagine what trading Murray, Maxwell and Sanchez would look like if Chip was still in Charge? He really may have gotten suckered into giving a team draft picks to take those contracts and get them out of his impatiemt site..
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Id be afraid to see what chip trading away,those 3’players would look like.
To be fair, I think the Kiko addition to the trade was a lot of the value in the 1st round swap of picks. That was not a big salary… and a hope he could recapture his rookie form, which would make him a steal. But getting value for him like the 1st round move-up is also just fine. That may be basically like a second rounder, if the line for elite talents stops soon after pick 8 — those lines can move a bit each draft, but getting into that area becomes a valuable trade-up. If we trade out of that position, I’d think we get at least a 2nd round pick, and then we might see what Maxwell/Kiko actually brought us. (Though I’d be happy standing pat too.)
On the one hand, it will be interesting to hear what the conditions are, considering the idea that this deal might be adding ammo for the Broncos to get Kaep and that Sanchez may never suit up as a Bronco.
On the other hand, it is a 2017 7th round pick, likely the second half of the 7th round. It isn’t nearly as exciting as the million in cap savings.
Sanchez was never going to play for Eagles again. Considering that, we got a lot for him.
Maybe Denver uses Sanchez as part of their package to land Kap
the next president should hire Howie. He’ll take care of any trade deficit
RGIII visiting jets
Glad to clear that extra mil in cap by trading. We have between 16.2 and 16.8M in cap at the moment (discrepancy between OTC and Spotrac); also the Bradham contract has still not been added.
Actually, they saved about $4.5 mill by clearing his contract. They would have paid him $1 mill if they cut him.
They might have recouped that $1 million anyways if there was offset language in the contract. Not sure how that works though — that type of thing may only be recouped on next year’s cap. So trade was by far the best avenue.
Sanchez being released would have saved 3.5M. Since we traded him, we saved “that extra mil.” (4.5M)
Shefter said that multiple Browns playΓ«rs said that they view being in Cleveland as another College experiemce, put in your 4 years and get out of there when their contract is up lol …. Apparently Kapernick either didn’t get the memo, or he just misses “college”
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Hoping the Broncos step up and trade for Kapernick, in hopes that a QB battle between him and the butt fumble will provide them a game manager that stays out Its defenses way
I love Wade Phillips, and I’m happy that he was rewarded with SB win, because I don’t believe Denver would have achieved that without him running their D. But their D has already lost Jackson and Travathon, and their offense is not going to scare anyone. I’d like to see Oakland take that Division this year. As for Cleveland, they let stating center and RT walk, and have spent little to nothing to try and replace their talent. WTF?
https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/708372323586449408
Hopefully a Taylor Hart trade follows this move.
If that was the case, I do not see the point in releasing Bair. Unless he asked to be a release due to not fitting the 4-3. At the very worst, he is a competent camp body.
Padding the cap space with that 700k salary…
I Bairly remember him.
how can you forget the 2nd amendment game?!
it’s actually spelled ‘bairenstainly’
Too bad we didn’t have a 2nd, lol
https://twitter.com/Domcosentin0/status/708372946679701509
It is the year to draft DL so the Jets might have made a good move.
Yep. But I wonder if the fact that they didn’t keep NT Damon Harrison means they plan on moving to a 4-3 or 4-3 under with Williams and Richardson at DT(or one of them in the Michael Bennett role at DE in a 4-3 under).
That’s the TE Bennett. DE Bennett is still with the Seahawks.
I think he knows that part. He is speaking of the Jets now losing 2 d-lineman 2 FA, so his suggestion is actually a valid one. Do not know if the Jets have the pieces to run the 4-3 under predominately but it is worth a shot.
Apparently this is fake. Zero on end instead of o.
Rotoworld is reporting it based off the fake Cosentino tweet.
Lazer sharp precision.
https://twitter.com/domcosentino/status/708377276245794817
Chip the GM was such a joke, such a sad sad joke.
I thought Chip the coach turned into a joke too
Chip the physical therapist did seem to the work though, so i’ll give him that. Sean Huls is still here right lol?
More like a practical joke that went horribly, horribly wrong!
But he was a football guy!
Better than Chip Kelly the coach.
The circle of life is complete.
Tebow and Sanchez have now all been on the roster for the Broncos, Eagles, and Jets.
Thank god that the guy who brought them in is gone too.
Chip McDaniels
Turns out that jets trade report is a hoax
Bills didn’t match NE’s RFA offer sheet for Chris Hogan.
The Pats love them some small white receivers.
The only comparison is skin color as he isn’t that small of a receiver for NFL standards.
Chris Hogan – 6’1 , 220 lbs
Julian Edelman – 5’10 , 200 lbs
So what shall we give Howie for pulling off another unbelievable trade?
Slow clap and a toast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmHuDKNI23c
On Monday morning, someone snidely commented that Roseman needs lessons in people-skills. As though . . .
– GMs won’t deal with him.
– Coaches won’t work with him.
– Agents won’t negotiate with him.
Well, Roseman’s doing great.
It’s the commenter who could use some lessons in people-skills.
At least Howie and Doug can talk to each other.
A request to pull off yet another.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/708405661776752640
Best move of the Giants off-season by far.
Maybe they’re the problem.
The Giants certainly are dumb with their money.
Paying a $17 mil AAV contract over 5 years to a guy with 14 sacks over the last two seasons with a ton of snaps, 32 starts, and leaving behind premium teammates ………………….. while we signed a guy for a $9 mil AAV contract over 5 years with 11.5 sacks over the last two seasons with zero starts and limited snaps.
So who plays the slot?
Somebody else we’ll light up on a consistent basis as well.
Never mind… I read that as he signed back with NY
No worries. 100% impossible to figure out who the heck signed with who these days.
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/708406917979222016
Shame. I’d love to see the Giants sign Okung to a 5 year / $60 million deal with $35 mil in guarantees so Graham and Vinny could kill Eli.
Hey look; Okung’s career highlight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkY7IiQPAE8
https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/708406905379676160
haha. I thought we might talk to Mo, guess not. Does that mean no Nolan Carrol, what a slap in the face that is.
i don’t why we don’t want carol? I thought the guy played harwas pretty decent. for that defense we had? geez. everything will be better with Schwartz right?
Definitely was best tackler / effort guy in secondary. Remember him running some guys down.
I think we do want Carroll, but he’s probably hoping for a larger contract than we can afford. If it turns out that contract isn’t out there, and he reduces demands, we could be back in play.
Some Cowboys fans mad , they want Carroll but I don’t think he’s much better than Mo. I wish we could get Thurmond to play CB. Though Carroll is bigger.
General thoughts on a first and a third to move to 6 with Baltimore to get Goff?
General thoughts on using a 3rd and a 4th to get into the 2nd round. If so, who do you like there?
No. My name is Sam Bradfod, and I approved this message.
Tick tock Sam. Time’s running out.
I won’t be happy if we use a third round pick only to move up to spots. I am also not 100 % convinced to pick Goff or any other QB. If the Eagles trade up to 6 I prefer Ramsey.
Noted.
But it’ll cost you 200 points to move up from 8 to 6; so that’s a 3rd rounder.
Noted. I’m still against this scenario, unless it’s for Ramsey.
I’m not sure Baltimore trades with us if Ramsey is there. What if they see him as the next Ed Reed?
And are you ready to watch West Ham kick Man U in the nuts on Sunday at noon…………….and then also finish ahead of them on the table for a Champions League spot?
That would be awesome.
We already have no 2nd rounder, and I don’t want to lose the 3rd/4th round slots we have to get there. It’s always possible there is a particular player being targeted which could change things. But I think 8 is high enough — we should still get a really good player, and I’m thinking the Eagles are more likely to take a second-tier QB in lower rounds.
It’s not impossible that if a QB falls to 8 we might get offered a ransom to trade back.
That’s fair. Out of curiosity, what 2nd level QBs would you like?
We have a pair of thirds and a pair of fourths. If Pederson says that is a guy he wants and Howie says we need to move to get him, go get him.
From the evening of the draft on, I have never once been relieved that we saved the Huff pick instead of using it to go get Dix. So many good 3rd and 4th rounders don’t work out. Use that ammo if you need to.
But this is where Howie is magic. Knowing who other teams want and how to get the guy we want. I will leave it to D3FB and Tommy to identify who we want.
If Pederson thinks Goff can be his McNabb, and not the just second best QB of this draft (“and i need to get a QB in the first round, whoever is there..”) then great, use a 3rd. Even at the 8th pick, it still seems Lynch is the QB most likely still there when Eagles pick, just as it was with the 13th pick. So if think Goff can be a QB for the eagles for the next 10+ successful years, then dont let the decision be up to Chip whether or not we get Goff at 8.
Man, Roseman is getting a lot of love for getting rid of a bunch of players for almost nothing and signing a rather ineffective QB. The key to winning is acquiring good and more importantly great players, not getting rid of not-good players. To use a business analogy, while cost-cutting and efficiency is good, you still need to be able to do–something–and do it well.
Don’t get me wrong, I think each deal has been pretty good. Still–just like Hinkie–“he ain’t done nothing yet”. I wonder if this is an overreaction based on the shocking awfulness of some of what Chip did?
you can’t get good players when you have a full roster and no money to spend
undoing that shocking awfulness deserves some appreciation.
I think you’ll have to wait for the other shoe to drop; i.e. we have the money to extend our most important players while maintaining flexibility to make strategic additions.
But he’s set us up to be able to do that…………as long as they draft guys I like.
Getting rid of large contracts is difficult. I thought we were stuck with Maxwell to be honest (and he was OK). Trading Murray seemed like a pipe dream unless there was a team who needed to get to the salary floor. We had lots of holes and not much space to fill them, unless we wanted to sacrifice QB completely and have no hope anyways. He has remade the roster pretty well.
But, yes. The results depend on how well we used that saved money. We don’t know how any of the new guys will play. And a lot will depend on getting the QB position right — we now have two options at least and will hopefully get a third in the draft. We may not be all that excited over any of them at the moment, but we won’t know until we get into the season a ways. Some of the acquisitions seem like they should be at least good if not better (but we thought the same of Murray last year).
And the draft is as important as ever. The teardown is usually the easiest part, but it’s been accomplished quickly and left the team without significant holes heading into the draft which might otherwise cause them to reach for a position. So far, so good, but a long ways to go.
Right circumstances happened. We had a new coach and we made deals with teams with new FOs.
People are lauding Howie for meeting a necessary condition for success. No one is claiming that this is a sufficient condition.
Is there any action you Howie should have taken to insure success?
That’s fair. I don’t get the ‘Roseman is a genius’ either until we see what this team looks like next year including if they win more than 7 games.
I still see this as being a 7-8 win team right now again. Just has got out of a few bad contracts and marginally improved their draft position a bit without any long-term tradeoffs.
For this to have been a really good offseason, they need a few guys to play well including McLeod, Curry, and Brooks in particular. Those guys were signed to be multiyear starters here and if the Eagles are going to make the playoffs they need all 3 of them to be at least average starters or better.
I don’t think it was almost nothing, he cleared a ton of cap space, we moved up very significantly in the first round, we signed solid looking players in FA… I think Howie has been working some magic really, getting rid of our trash in return for something.
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Lot of us wondering why @WaltThurm3 hasn’t gotten any buzz in free agency. Several people around the Eagles think Walt might be retiring…
Wow. He’s played enough year to be vested in the pension system and if he’s been smart with his money and still have some health then I wish him well.
enough people do that, and it’s going to really hurt the NFL.
That’s interesting, given his comments about how he didn’t think the Eagles could afford him, which directly implied he was planning to play. But it is odd that he hasn’t gotten offers.
It could be a face saving move because of those comments.
Translation: He’s not getting enough $ to make it worth it to him. I’d like to get him at right price.
Ive heard Atlanta but just speculated by their fans because of Quinn.
Denial will be coming in a few hours.
Boring. Off. Season.
Spoiled from day one.
Fire Howie already
better then that boring Season
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/708415821572218880
https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/708425971792109569
Ha ha ha. Robert Ayers has the same number of sacks over the past two years as Olivier Vernon.
Stupid Giants.
Maybe Ayers wasn’t asking for enough.
His agent sucks
Maybe we should draft Cody Kessler with that 4th round pick so we can trade him for a conditional 7th in 3 years.
Given some of the names of QBs I’ve seen people here talk up; Kessler might not be that bad.
An arm like Matt barkley
Not ideal, but at least he isn’t a glorified RB or WR masquerading as a QB.
In any case, I’m happy to add Kessler to the list of guys I don’t want to draft.
Wait, what the hell did Chip do with our 4th rounder? I can’t even remember any more. https://twitter.com/eagles/status/708419637546000384
Well we swapped a 4th with Tenn. Was there another one?
No, I was thinking we gained a 4th, but we didn’t.
Nothing. We traded Demarco AND our 4th to move up to Tennessee’s 4th
Ah, right. Got it.
He traded it last year for a 3rd this year.
No, that was the 4th we got for Bryce Brown.
I want Boykin to come back now. It would be like how soccer teams loan out a player for cash to other clubs, we loaned Boykin to Pitt for a year and a 5th rounder and now he comes back.
Yeah I wouldn’t hate grabbing another CB before the draft
Getting something for Sanchez… I would tip my hat to Howie but it appears QB in the NFL is in an even worse state than I imagined.
ACViking – Pederson is not good in front of the mic, but neither was Manuel. Do you think there’s similarities in that Manuel was a good players coach and had a measure of success (and a championship) – that Pederson could have the same type of success with the players and wins (maybe just short of SB)?
“Sure” -ACViking’s answer. Probably.
Yesterday, I wrote that one thing Pederson projects — in spite of himself maybe — is sincerity. He’s very genuine. No airs.
There’s also a steeliness to him. The way he talked about Murray last week.
So, sure. He could be like Manuel. As long as the players like what he’s pitching.
You have an uncanny way of seeing through the words (probably the law thing), but I worry most about the results on the field. CK talked a good game (I was taken in), and that got us nowhere.
I know a few people in my line of business that don’t do well in social situations, but they know their craft as well as any expert.
Yeah I think a lot of us bought into what Chip Kelly was selling… I wonder if Chip really believes his own bullshit or if he’s manipulative.
I’ll go with option 2.
The latter. I’ve been starting to study social engineering a bit more (both job and personal), and he knows what buttons to push to get what he wants. A BS artist that does well at his craft. Sees an opportunity or vulnerability, and seizes on it.
I think back to his original press conference, and he talked about Wing Bowl, being from Philly and never giving up the fight, and IIRC even mentioned some past Eagles greats?
He built a rapport, made it seemed like he knew what he was talking about – and had the media falling all over him. That’s how it started, and the rest is history.
Yeah my brother works as an iOS programmer and he had to study social engineering because he initially was going to do cyber security… Social engineering can be some creepy stuff, depending on its use.
The reason I started (cyber security) as well.
I think chip is creepy
Yeah he’s got a little Belichick in him doesn’t he? No moral compass at all, just anything to secure the win. He’s really into military culture too, which is also all about winning.
Unfortunately I think he wasn’t on Belichick’s level when he got to the NFL, and he stumbled badly.
Huh? The only “Belichick” he has in him is arrogance with the media. But in CK’s case, it is unearned. He doesn’t only care about winning – if he did, he would adapt his schemes and ideas to his opponents, which he clearly never did. BB does that every week.
It’s an insult to BB to compare CK with him.
Fwiw
https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/708453845895139328
Interesting. The Clemson kid looks good as well.
I love Alexander. I wouldn’t mind Apple, Alexander or Hargreaves in the first
i like him too, but he has zero (!) career interceptions. He doesn’t give up many plays, but doesn’t make many either.
Breer’s an Ohio State homer.
That’s no good then. It wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case though. VH3 didn’t quite look as good as Joe Haden this year, so it could be open for top CB besides Ramsey. Teams have different schemes as well.
Apple is three inches taller and ran a 4.4 compared to VH3’s 4.5. A CB on the shorter side that only runs a 4.5 is the kind of prospect that gets picked apart this time of year, and demoted. A 6-1 CB that runs a 4.4 is the kind of prospect that rises this time of year.
Quinten Rollins and Marcus Peters ran almost 4.6s and weren’t all that tall either..
Waynes was the first CB, he ran 4.31 at 6-0. Peters is better than Hargreaves imo and he’s 6-0 and he was 3rd CB taken. He had the red flags but he is more quick twitch than VH3 imo. Rollins was 7th CB not 1st/2nd CB.
Their speed didn’t really hinder their success this year. It’ll probably be exploited later now that there’s tape on them. Hargreaves just doesn’t look slow on tape and he does look faster than Peters on tape..
I don’t see great speed. He’s not slow . I don’t think that’s what anyone meant.
https://youtu.be/72XSDuOfcsI
https://youtu.be/U2tzI9O4vxs
I didn’t say he’s a track star but IMO he’s fast enough to stick to most NFL WRs (like most NFL CBs).
We’ll see. I don’t think Apple is as polished as Hargreaves.
I see what you did there.
Pederson worries me. If he cracks under the pressure of a press conference, I shudder to think how he’ll handle the responsibility of game time pressure.
I don’t see the two as related.
But Chip owned all of his opening pressers. Davis too
i dont think he cracks that much under the pressure of press conferences, but the two can be related if it is a real crack just because too much pressure. Being an awkward speaker in general in front of strange sports reporters, or not wanting to reveal too much so you speak haltingly is different than “cracking”
public speaking is a skill that you build. you don’t magically know how, or at least most people aren’t that natural.
Me neither. The only real concern I see is Pederson trying to call the offensive plays next year. To me, that is a much bigger unresolved issue.
This is like the thousandth time I’ve seen a post about this supposedly terrible press conference, so i decided to watch it.
It wasn’t bad, and I just can’t see what everyone is so upset about. So the dude isn’t the most interesting man on the planet. So what? Watch an off-season presser from Reid and it’s just as boring. Big Red took pauses, inserted “ums,” and basically bored us to sleep. To me it looked like Doug considered his answers thoughtfully. He took some extra time to craft his answers about Murray, so as to not bad mouth him, or really call him out for wanting to leave. But generally, Doug just answered questions honestly and correctly.
I have a hard time seeing how that press conference can be used as a criticism of his coaching ability. He didn’t freeze under pressure. He didn’t look lost. He just answered questions.
Elliott has already stated publicly that Dallas is his preferred destination. “The Cowboys (are my pick),” he said at the NFL Scouting Combine last month. “I want to go play behind that great offensive line they have down in Dallas.”
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To me that’s a character concern. Even if you feel that way you should keep it to yourself. This adds to the bad attitude after his last game to paint a bad picture
Meh that isn’t a major red flag . Very minor. They’re picking 4th. Okafor wanted to play for the Lakers not the Sixers. Goff supposedly likes the Browns. Players want to get picked as high as possible. Dallas has a great OL.
I guess it just seems worse because it’s the cowboys
They seem to be popular with players but remember they’re near the top so agents and players will like Dallas.
It’s annoying in public PC and Elliott’s annoying but he’s a college kid. I did here Goff interviewed bad for Cleveland (just rumor) though so speculation is he doesn’t want to be there.
Plus the state income tax (or lack thereof) thing in Texas.
Just saw this on phillymag. I’m not crazy! Lol
It’s all about the money.
Free agent WR Ricardo Lockette (neck) “realizes his career might be over.”
Lockette has yet to get cleared from November surgery. He played only 112 snaps before going down in Week 8. Even if cleared, 29-year-old Lockette won’t be more than a special teams flyer.
Guess you gotta make the money when you can.
From what I saw/read, he actually could have died on the field if they had treated him incorrectly. Dude was lucky and it kind of highlights the brutality of the game.
He took a really nasty hit
It didn’t even look that bad at the time (except that he didn’t get up)…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKFACMzCuq8
He took it with head though. That replay doesn’t show how fast that happened
https://youtu.be/UzJ-qiyi0Ng
Since when is drawing a flag for pass interference a highlight? π
I didn’t make the video so I can’t answer that. I posted it for those that wanted to see some video of the player we signed.
Yeah, that was more of a rhetorical question. The vid is appreciated.
Browns willing to give up 3rd round pick for Colin Kaepernick, but trade hinges on contract redo, sources say.
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/03/browns_willing_to_give_up_3rd.html
So any more details about the ‘conditional pick’ the Eagles got for Sanchez?