Five Guys

Posted: May 17th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 240 Comments »

Bigger. Nastier. Maybe even younger.

The Eagles OL will be different in 2016. Brandon Brooks will take over at RG. He’s 26 years old and is an imposing 6-5, 343.

The LG spot is wide open. Right now the battle is between incumbent Allen Barbre, free agent Stefen Wisniewski, second year player Malcolm Bunche and rookie Isaac Seumalo.

You would think the veterans would have a significant advantage. That’s not really the case. Doug Pederson was the offensive coordinator in KC for three years. They started a rookie OL each of those years. One was an OT, one an OG and last year they had a rookie C. When Pederson was in Philly, the Eagles started 6th rounder Jason Kelce at C as a rookie.

The best players got on the field. The coaches weren’t looking for the five best resumes. They wanted the five best players.

Barbre wasn’t really challenged in 2015 and I think that reflected in his play. He had some very good moments, but was entirely too erratic and didn’t have a good season. Wisniewski is here to provide veteran competition for him, as well as possible depth at C.

The most interesting thing to me is the young guys in the mix at LG.

Bunche is 6-6, 320. He played OG and OT in college. You can watch him at RT in this video and see that he is a big, strong, physical blocker. His pass protection needed a lot of work. I’m sure that’s a big part of why he was undrafted a year ago and then moved to OG.

The Eagles have more experienced players in Matt Tobin, Dennis Kelly and Andrew Gardner. But remember what Pederson has talked about this year. He wants physical, nasty blockers. Bunche has that kind of size, strength and temperament.

The coaches talked last summer about Bunche’s ability to move his man off the ball. The Eagles have lacked that kind of physicality and power up front in recent years.

The more I watch of Seumalo, the more his physicality stands out. Watch him play RG against Stanford.

That wasn’t Seumalo’s normal position so he’s awkward on some plays. but you can see his natural ability and his strength.

The Eagles are having a true competition at LG this spring/summer. No one will be given a job. I’m sure the Eagles would love for Seumalo to win the job. I’m curious to see if Bunche can take the next step. He was exposed to the NFL last year. Now is the time to show whether he belongs or not.


Les Bowen wrote a good piece on the OL. He got quotes from several guys, including Bunche.

“I know I’m not going to mess with JP (left tackle Jason Peters) and (center Jason) Kelce. They brought in Brandon (Brooks to start at right guard),” Bunche said. “I see left guard – I’ve been there the last couple weeks and I feel comfortable there. I like it there. I’m doing a lot better since last year, just developing and growing.”

What did the coaches want him to do better, to get on the field?

“Basically, my football IQ,” Bunche said. “Another year of gaining information, as far as reading (defenses). A good guy to talk to about that is Kelce – he’s one of the smartest offensive linemen I’ve ever been around. Just stayin’ in the playbook, in the film room with ‘Stout,’ because my coach tells me all the time, I’m gifted. I’m strong, I can move my feet. That’s there, that’s God-given. But the game is a lot mental.”

There is no question that Bunche has the size and strength to play in the NFL. He’s got to show he knows who to block and can do all the little things well.


Don’t read too much into this. Looks like purely a way to lower his salary. Tobin will be battling this summer. He needs to play lights out just to get in the mix to become part of the LG battle. Tobin would love to start, but he’s not even a lock to make the team.

The Eagles really wanted Tobin to win the RG spot last year. He let them down in a big way. Is this the year that the light goes on…or is that never going to happen?


240 Comments on “Five Guys”

  1. 1 the guy said at 12:35 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Now I want a burger and Five Guys is closed. Thanks a bunch, Tommy.

  2. 2 sonofdman said at 1:17 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Ha ha. I was about to post the same exact thing.

  3. 3 wee2424 said at 1:21 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    5 guys is the first thing I thought of when i read the title as well. I was thrilled when I moved down to FL and I saw a 5 Guys here. Was fearing they weren’t down here.

  4. 4 GermanEagle said at 7:02 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Prefer shake shack

  5. 5 daveH said at 7:44 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Joe Jrs $5

  6. 6 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:05 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Same… Got me craving a burger for breakfast

  7. 7 Five Guys - said at 12:41 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Bigger. Nastier. Maybe even younger. The Eagles OL will be different in 2016. Brandon Brooks will […]

  8. 8 wee2424 said at 1:18 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Tobin’s best opportunity to earn a starting job was last year. Now there is far more talent to compete with. Besides the obvious I think it is a somewhat strong possibility that he may not make the team this year, and after this season he will be gone. He simply isn’t Pederson’s type of OG.

    To a lesser extent I think Kelce could be gone next year if he has an average to sub par year. Another example of a player that isn’t the ideal style for Pederson.

    He reminds me of a type of G that Howard Mudd would like.

  9. 9 Media Mike said at 4:56 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Kelce does some things really well, but if he’s going to continue to get blown off of the football, snap like crap, and continue his steep decline in play……….he won’t be here due to that salary.

    The risk is you can’t just shake a tree and have a functional center fall out of it.

  10. 10 eagleyankfan said at 8:13 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah – I don’t know what the issue was last year – but he didn’t play at the level we’re use to seeing him play…

  11. 11 A Roy said at 9:33 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’d like to think his poor snapping and poor play was caused by thinking to how he was going to have to cover for the mistake by one of the Guards on either side of him. I expect him to rebound once there’s a little talent and stability next to him.

  12. 12 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:12 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Don’t Think he is good enough regardless of what type of OL we are looking for. im hoping our OL roster looks something like:
    1) Peters
    2) Lane
    3) Kelce
    4) Brooks
    5) Seumalo
    6) Wisnewski
    7) bunche
    8) Vaitai
    9) Gardner or Dennis Kelly
    10) Darrell Greene (UDFA)
    Ideally Roseman can trade Barbe, Tobin and Taylor Hart for playërs that aren’t going to make another teams roster… Maybe swap them for a teams #6 or #7 Linebacker, maybe a teams #5 Safety, #5 DT….. Obviously we shouldnt expect to get anything significant for those 3, but hopefully we can do business with a team that’s deep at positions where we lack depth..

  13. 13 wee2424 said at 9:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I would like that OL minus 1 exception. I would still like Barbe on the team for depth purposes. We have all seen what can happen with injuries. You cant help injuries, but you can help your depth so that injuries have the least negative effect as possible.

  14. 14 wee2424 said at 2:27 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Good film of Mcleod over at BGN. Guy is very instinctual and really flies. Loves to hit. I cant wait to watch him in game. Very impressive player. I think his best comparison is Earl Thomas, and that isn’t me being a homer. I just don’t think there is another safety besides Thomas that has range like him in the NFL today.

  15. 15 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:57 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Think he will provide a BIGTIME upgrade improving our Swiss cheese defense on 3rd and long…
    Schwartz will unleash the Hounds (Ramsey Bolton style), pass rush forces the QB to get rid of the ball sooner then the QB would like, and McLeod will be a force, torpedoing opponents, making the tackle short of the 1st down, bringing out the punt team..
    Curious to see how many 3rd down tackles he makes short of the first down this year

  16. 16 the DONALD said at 9:15 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    nice GOT reference, sir Gian of House Geagle. (too much, I know)

  17. 17 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:33 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Im like 6’3 pothead version of “The Imp”…. “I smoke, and know things….”

  18. 18 wee2424 said at 9:09 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Mcleod with an improved pass rush should help this D tremendously, especially on 3rd down. 3rd and long should bring happiness to our hearts like it did with JJ instead of despair like it recently has.

  19. 19 Media Mike said at 4:54 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’m done with placing any hope of usefulness as starters in the unholy trinity of Gardner, Barbre, and Tobin.

  20. 20 ICDogg said at 12:21 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Good thing there’s a Bunche of other guys then

  21. 21 eagleyankfan said at 8:00 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Phyiscal is a good word for Seumalo. He didn’t seem strong enough vs those DL but he seemed to get in there and mix. I’ll leave the OL evaluations to guys like D3FB…this untrained eye was not impressed. I was hoping for better in that video.

  22. 22 D3FB said at 9:01 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    He’s on the ground a bit too much. He’s versatile, has a good frame, and a solid set of tools. Needs some work on technique. He was more of a 4th-5th round guy for me. I think there’s a high percentage chance he becomes a starter. I just don’t know that he’s ever going to be more than an average starter. Reminds me a decent amount of Matt Slauson. I think that would be a realistic and solid return.

  23. 23 eagleyankfan said at 9:52 AM on May 17th, 2016:


  24. 24 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:16 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Wonder if Wisnewski is regretting he signed with us. Kid has been a starter his entire career, took this job hoping it would provide him an opportunity to play his way into earning an extension here or elsewhere, and now he has a ton of competition he has to beat out to win the LG spot..,i would think that he has to be head and shoulders better than Seumalo, if it’s even close the edge would probably go to the rook..

    Josh andrews is also in an interesting position, he was one of our only Backup C/G last year. Now they drafted his former college teammate Suemalo, but Seumalo Center and G versatility could end up costing Josh Andrews his job with the Eagles.
    Gardner should beat out both Tobin and Barbre, but Vaitai could also be starting his career at Guard
    OL and CB are probably the most interesting Camp Battles, Roseman did a pretty good job adding to the pool of talent at those positions, going to be interesting to see which guys seperate themselves from the pack and earn a roster spot

  25. 25 Steve Smegal said at 8:17 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    If the young players look good in camp, I could see Wisnewski traded to a team that had oline injuries for a late round pick.

  26. 26 eagleyankfan said at 8:17 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Is Sproles a lock to make the 53 this year? I don’t know contract situation with him but in a rebuilding year – as talented as he is – is he really needed?

  27. 27 Steve Smegal said at 8:18 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Depends on what you think the Eagles chances are this year. I don’t see them contending for the division so I would have rather traded him at the draft.

  28. 28 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:20 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Think you are Severly overestimating the teams in our division

  29. 29 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:19 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Your damn right he is needed,,, what are we going to do those 2-3 games Ryan Mathews inevitably misses due to injury? Barner and Smallwood? God no….
    Rather Sacrafice Barner than Sproles.. KC playbook was great for throwing the ball to Jamaal Charles, I can’t wait to see Sproles running those plays this year

  30. 30 eagleyankfan said at 8:21 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Obviously nothing based on OTA’s and camp — hoping Smallwood and BM make the team. Barner to be cut :). Don’t get me wrong – I love Spoles. He’s just getting older and by the time Wentz is ready — Sproles will be in a walker …lol

  31. 31 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:36 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    If we were going to dump all the players that won’t be here when Wentz is ready to take over, our roster would look pretty different.
    I haven’t seen any signs of SPROLES significantly slowing down yet. I would hate to go into the season with Ryan Mathews, a 5th round rookie and an Undrafted scatback type
    The division is too winnable and Id love to have smallwood spend a year learning from Sproles who is known for his work ethic… Obviously Sproles won’t be here much longer, but I think he has a year or two left before old age starts to rob him of his ability….Of course it’s also possible that he gets to camp and we find out that old age has already started to kick in, but I didn’t see signs of that last year..
    The BM kid is someone Id prefer to have spend a year on the PS.
    Historically we have allowed Rookie RBs to ease their way into the NFL, typically placing them in #3 RB roles, westbrook, shady, none of them carried the load as rookies… Ryan Mathews, is too big, powerful, explosive for his own good. His body can’t withstand 16 games of those violent collisions he initiates. I don’t know about you, but I don’t want to see us go into games with smallwood and BM when ryan Mathews has to miss two or three games
    Also, one of the most Dissapointing things about chip was the lack of Immagination he had with how he used Sproles in the passing game. Thought Sproles would be great for a chip kelly offense, yet it very dissapointing how Sproles was used, basically run inside zone, or throw to him on wheel routes and that’s pretty much it. Looking forward to seeing Sproles used in some of the ways Jamaal Charles and Westbrook were used in the passing game. We haven’t gotten our money’s worth from Sproles in the passing game, and im excited to see Pedersons offense change that. I would think that Ertz and Sproles are the two players who should be the most excited about Doug Pedersons offense.
    If Sproles wasn’t going to be an eagle this year, I would think that Roseman would have treated him with the upmost respect, cutting him early in the offseason giving him every opportunity to find a good job with another team

  32. 32 eagleyankfan said at 9:51 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    True. CK never used him. Pederson take on the RB’s last year seems to be spot on.

  33. 33 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:08 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah he is right, chip tried to use 3 RB’s the same exact way for the most part insted of creating different packages for different RBs

  34. 34 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:36 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    You might get your wish… There is some drama going on with Sproles not attending OTAs, not sure exactly why, I assume Pederson will clear this up at the 12:45 press confrence

  35. 35 Gian GEAGLE said at 8:50 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Think philly is going to fall in love with Brooks, Big, Powerful, angry Sumamabitch.
    I have Brooks as easily the second best guard in free agency behind Osmele. This is a player I never expected the Texans to allow to reach the open market. OSMELE was the only guard that got paid more than Brooks. Most fans would have been thrilled with KC’s Jeff Allen, but Brooks is a level above him.
    I really hope Jason Peters stays healthy, partly because I really want to watch the tandem of Lane and Brooks Mauling opponents all day in the run game. Think they will easily grow into on of the very best tandems playing on the right side of the OL league wide. Brooks should give us a boost on 3rd and short/goal line..
    Hopefully we are just an OT away from having an Elite OL for life after Jason Peters

  36. 36 mark2741 said at 8:56 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’ve seen Jason Kelce twice in the past year now in person (from ~10 yards away) – once he and his girlfriend, walking hand-in-hand in swimsuits on the beach in Sea Isle City, NJ. I was shocked at how small the guy was at the time. One of my in-laws was there as well and got a pic with Kelce – he is a backup OG for a DIV III state college and he was much bigger. This was last June. So a couple of weeks ago I’m walking through the local mall here in the Philly burbs and sure enough, there is Jason Kelce standing there (with the same girlfriend) chatting with an elderly couple. He looks like he’s put on 20 pounds of muscle, at least. Hopefully it just isn’t my eyes fooling me…

  37. 37 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:18 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Eagles signed LB Ty Powell and TE MJ McFarland, we cut OL Boyko, and McLeod Bethel Thompson our #4 QB
    I assume we won’t even carry a #4 QB on the practice squad and have Wentz QB The scout team to make up for the little amount of reps he would get as the #3 QB

  38. 38 Greg Richards said at 12:26 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Can play SLB or MLB. Was BUF’s top reserve LB and top ST LBer in 2014 season and looked really good in training camp in 2015 and was getting looks with the starters before tearing his ACL in training camp.

    I mentoned him as a possible signing when BUF didn’t tender him as a RFA.

  39. 39 Insomniac said at 1:59 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    We just added another explosive pass rusher. Tommy and I talked up Powell in 2013 as a possible late round guy that could be groomed into a predator OLB when the team was running the 3-4. I wouldn’t be surprised if Schwartz reverts him back into a DE/situational pass rusher where he can do what he does best.

  40. 40 Tdoteaglefan said at 2:23 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    yeah here were Tommy’s thoughts about him after watching him practice at the senior bowl that week

    “Ty Powell – Small school player from Harding (Remember Tank Daniels?). Powell played DE in college and had 8.5 sacks this year. Watching him in the drills, you could see he was a talented pass rusher. At only 6-2, 245, he was shifted to OLB in Mobile. Did a solid job. Struggled in coverage, but it was more due to experience than lack of athleticism. Powell is a bit of a project, but the Eagles could look at him as someone to develop. Doesn’t have the ideal build (would need to be 6-4). No idea if he could play ILB.”

  41. 41 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:35 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    What’s the problem with Sproles? We fielded trade offers for him during the draft, and he is staying on the west coast With his family TIL this gets sorted out? What? I don’t understand. Don’t see how we could afford to trade SPROLES and further weaken our RB room which isn’t ideal to begin with? I don’t understand if he is demanding a trade, or is holding out TIL he gets assurance that he won’t be traded this offseason?

  42. 42 RogerPodacter said at 11:38 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    the only logic i see in trading him is that we know we won’t win anything this year, so we could offload him, and his salary. we could get a future draft pick (or a younger player?) and make some cap space in the process (more room to pay Cox).

    i don’t think its worth it, but i don’t know how badly the FO is hurting for cap space this year. he more or less single handedly won us a few games in the last few years, and losing that for a 5th rd pick (or maybe even lower?!?) would be awful.

  43. 43 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:40 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Ok but what’s going on with him Right now? I don’t understand what the drama is about or is he just trying to miss some of OTAs to spend time with his family?

  44. 44 Nick C said at 11:42 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sproles on the block according to Ian…? If true, and that’s a big if, not cool. Sproles is way more valuable to this team than some measly 6th rounder.

  45. 45 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:53 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Let the hype train begin:
    $ammy Dollaz looking sharp, as he always does when he has the red jersey on.
    Wentz allegedly threw a gorgeous back shoulder throw.
    Les Bowan claims Wentz drilled Josh Huff on out route that staggered him and almost knocked him down

  46. 46 Nailed It! said at 11:54 AM on May 17th, 2016:

    Then Sleeves threw a pick 6 on 7v7’s lets get the hype train going in May baby….

  47. 47 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:39 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    McLeod pick sixed him…
    Sounds like mcKelvin and Denzil Rice having a good day making plays

  48. 48 RogerPodacter said at 12:57 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    good to hear about Rice. hope he steps up his game this year

  49. 49 anon said at 2:25 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Wentz has been practicing that throw since HS!

  50. 50 Nailed It! said at 12:00 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Wait, so the Eagles were the ones receiving the calls about trading Sproles and not the Eagles actively shopping him? So why is Sproles upset with the Eagles again? They cannot control who calls them about a players trade value can they?

  51. 51 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Allegedly he isn’t upset with the Eagles, “not a case of frustration”, and he is just staying away until it’s resolved.
    The best I can interpret it is either:
    1) he is staying away until the Eagles reassure him that he won’t be traded this offseason
    2) making a silly excuse to miss some OTAs and spend time with his family

  52. 52 RC5000 said at 1:27 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    This is Ian’s thing kind of float it then kind of recant it. It’s such clickbait bullshit.

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2h2 hours ago

    This isn’t a situation filled with frustration for Darren Sproles. But he’s away from the #Eagles, with his family on the West Coast now

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2h2 hours ago

    #Eagles received calls of trade interest for RB Darren Sproles mid-draft, sources said. He’s staying away from OTAs until its sorted out

  53. 53 BobSmith77 said at 12:25 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Does anyone think Peters – a player with chronic lower back issues in his mid-30s is going to be able to hold up and play well at LT? If he gives them a half season of decent football, I’d more than take it.

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see new starters at LT and C by Dec either.

  54. 54 Cafone said at 12:52 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think he will be able to hold up a lot better now that he doesn’t have to go through Chip Kelly training sessions and will play in a more normally paced offense on game days. Kelly’s dismissal may have added a few years to Peter’s career.

  55. 55 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:04 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    It’s not like JP missed 8 games last year, so I don’t know how anyone can assume that his body is going to fall apart now that he has a coach who will be more understanding in preserving his body.. Negadelphia I guess. Assume the worst, ne skeptical of the best

  56. 56 Cafone said at 2:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Although according to your boy Jason Kelce, Chip Kelly practices weren’t as tough as Andy Reid practices and players that thought so were “pampered”

    I bet those statements were really popular with Jason Peters and Lane Johnson.

  57. 57 anon said at 2:08 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    He was an ass last year. Even about Kelce leaving so i have very little sympathy for him if he gets dropped.

  58. 58 anon said at 2:24 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    JPP was in an out of a bunch of games last year and basically walked off the field toward the end of the season.

  59. 59 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:48 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Ok, Pederson is saying Sproles Wasnt shopped, doesn’t want to be traded. he won’t be traded, will be an eagle this year but he won’t be at voluntary mini camp. We will see the
    Vet June 7th

  60. 60 anon said at 2:23 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think chip would have been fine, sproles was always he hardest working guy out there. Sproles is old though and by his reaction when NOLA traded him i can understand him not wanting to be moved.

  61. 61 ACViking said at 2:41 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Imagine SPROLES trying to tell Chip that he is going to sit out OTAs to spend time with Family and preserve his legs? chip would have tried to trade him for an 8th round pick with the quickness lol

    You mean like in 2015 . . . when Sproles skipped June OTAs?

    I’m pretty sure he wasn’t traded by Kelly.

  62. 62 mksp said at 2:46 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    GEAGLE is a gurgling stream, constantly flowing, uncaring of what lies ahead and immediately forgetting what lies behind.

    A true icon, and a role model for all of us.

  63. 63 Insomniac said at 2:50 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    That is an interesting metaphor for diarrhea.

  64. 64 Cafone said at 1:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Five guys are competing for one position at LG? Maybe, but I would not be surprised if the reality is that six guys are competing for two spots: LG and C.

    Jason Kelce does not fit the bill if Pederson “wants physical, nasty blockers.” At least two of the five players mentioned have experience playing center (Wisniewski and Seumalo). And they also brought in an FCS center as a UDFA. Read between the lines.

    My prediction:

    Peters – Wisniewski – Seumalo – Brooks – Johnson

  65. 65 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Boy are people getting carried away with Kelce’s down year…. Pederson would probably laugh at you if you asked him if Kelce’s is going to be replaced because he isn’t a Pederson “type”

  66. 66 bsuperfi said at 1:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Completely agree on overreaction to Kelce. He might not be as physical and nasty as one would like, but his smarts and mobility are top notch. I’d be surprised if he doesn’t have another pro bowl or 2 left in his career (pending injury). There was systemic failure on the team last year, with a serious concentration of failure at the guard spots, and we’ve seen Kelce play at a very high level. I’d wait another year before predicting his doom.

  67. 67 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:21 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Kind of shitty to see such a classy soldier treated like shit the first time he has a down year. Fortunately we have better contingency plans at Center than we have had at Backüp center in years, so we covered our ass in case KELCE doesn’t bounce back, but I absolutely think he has a few good years left in the tank now that he doesn’t have to worry about both guards next two him getting killed.. Easier to worry about helping one of the Guards, if he knows Brooks has the other guard spot on lock. KELCE cares so much about this team, probably couldn’t have been easy not knowing which guard needs more help each play with both guards getting killed

  68. 68 Cafone said at 1:55 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Anything is possible, but Kelce gets paid like a pro bowl center so his spot is an excellent candidate for replacement by a lower priced player if he continues to play far below a pro bowl level.

  69. 69 anon said at 2:22 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    “Kind of shitty to see such a classy soldier treated like shit the first time he has a down year.” — didn’t think he was as classy last year when discussing members of the OL.

    Be interesting to see if he’s able to use his mobility as much in this scheme, in may ways Chip’s scheme was great for him.

  70. 70 Cafone said at 1:26 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Let’s remember that he had a down year because every team in the NFL figured out you could completely disrupt the Eagles offense by lining up in front of him and blowing up the interior of the line. Now you could call that a down year, or you could say he was exposed.

    Kelce is a center that needs to play next to two strong guards to make up for his size. Maybe Pederson will accept that limitation. Or maybe the reason they drafted Seumalo before other top guard prospects was because he had center experience.

  71. 71 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:38 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Lol as opposed to other years where teams didn’t use defensive tackles to try and attack the interior of our OL? Creating pressure up the middle is what every defense hopes to accomplish
    But ok….

  72. 72 anon said at 1:42 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    2 down years

  73. 73 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:44 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    No, 2014 was Not bad like last year, but not as good as 2013..
    2013 coincidently was the last time he had 4 teammates playing solid football. Herremans play quickily took a nose dive after 2014, not to mention the injuries to Mathis… And we all know we probably had the worst guards in the NFL last year, and that’s not an exaggeration

  74. 74 Cafone said at 1:48 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    And hurt all of 2012.

    Kelce looked good his rookie year and then hasn’t really impressed at all, but people still want to judge him by what he did as a rookie. He’s like the offensive Brandon Boykin.

  75. 75 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah I don’t think he was a rookie when he anchored the top OL in 2013… Try again..

  76. 76 ChoTime said at 3:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Except people like him.

  77. 77 BobSmith77 said at 2:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Down year? It became kind of a sad running joke with Kelce says several times that he ‘had played the worst game of his career.’

    I don’t think Cafone is that far off that Kelce might even lose his starting job coming out of preseason.

  78. 78 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Cox’s agent has him not taking the coaches phone calls. I understand business is business, and it’s not the end of the world if Cox doesn’t join us TIL June, I just think this hold out is pointless. It’s uneccessary, and probably isn’t having ANY effect on his contract getting done sooner.
    If you know anything about how Roseman operates, cox should realize what he is doing is pointless. Roseman is all about trying to lock up yoûng players early. Cox is the crowned Jewel of Rosemans career, he is the best player Roseman ever drafted. .
    cox should realize that Roseman might want to get the deal done this summer even more than Cox wants to get it done, because Roseman is no fool, he knows we can’t get around having to pay Cox a ton, and if Cox is worth that much now, You can bet Roseman does not want to see Cox inflate his stats in a jim washburn scheme next year, Cox value is only going to increase, it’s not getting cheaper. Roseman is aware of this, so it would seem his hard negotiation stance is uneccessary,,
    Unless Cox is actually also willing to hold out during Mandatory activities which I don’t believe to be the case. He is a team Guy, who cares about playing well, and he already slipped and said something like ” why would I make a big deal about not getting a deal when I am scheduled to make 7mil next year”, which his agent probably wasn’t thrilled to hear.

    But hopefully Roseman can get it done within the next two weeks. Getting the deal done this Summer is in everyone’s best interest. Hopefully we can put this behind us soon

  79. 79 anon said at 1:41 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    So Cox, Sammy and now Sproles all going through bouts of “absenteeism”?

  80. 80 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:45 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    $ammy Dollaz really only missed like 7 days, 23 hours total or something.
    Lol it be kind of Funny to see Chip have to deal with his starting QB, star DT and veteran RB behaving this way… What would chip have done? His head may have exploded
    Cody Parkey claims to be fully recovered, THATS a good thing at least
    Hicks was,held out as a precaution, leg tightness

    carrol ISNT cleared for action yet

  81. 81 P_P_K said at 1:43 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Here’s another list of guys — The six pack of Eagles first round qbs who have been on the roster during the last decade: McNabb, Vick, Bradford, Wentz, Tebow, and Young. Kolb almost made it Lucky 7. Is there any other team that’s been stocked with this quantity of qb talent? How come we’re not winning a lot more?

  82. 82 RobNE said at 1:44 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    quantity is the right word there.

  83. 83 P_P_K said at 2:28 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I deliberately wrote “quantity” and not “quality.”

  84. 84 RobNE said at 4:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  85. 85 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    How come we aren’t winning more? Because we didnt make Tebow our franchise QB, of course,, duh

  86. 86 P_P_K said at 2:27 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  87. 87 RobNE said at 1:45 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    what is everyone’s prediction on how many games Wentz starts this year. 0 and 16 are acceptable answers.

  88. 88 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:47 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  89. 89 Sean Stott said at 1:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I wouldn’t bet on Bradford being healthy for 16 games.

  90. 90 eagleyankfan said at 1:52 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    That’s why there’s Chase…

  91. 91 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Our luck, when we finally DONT need him to play 16 games he will be remarkably healthy and durable,,. But even if he gets knocked out of a game or two, I still think Pederson will keep him on the bench. I really don’t think coach views it as a bad thing to keep Wentz in bubble wrap all year.
    I got SAM playing 14-16’games….. If SAM gets knocked out for the season really early like week 4, maybe by week 14 after getting #2 reps all year and chase stinks it up for like 10 games, Pederson gives Wentz a few games of experience if we are already eliminated from the playoffs the last few days… But I think as long bradford plays like 14 games, we would see Chase, not Wentz…. If Bradford is healthy for at least 10 games, I say we won’t see Wentz
    Sure doesn’t suck to get to watch Bradford as our QB without having to care or worry about him getting injured.. I just think he has to miss a large portion of the season to have any Chance of seeing Wentz leapfrog Dougs boy Chase at some point This season, but Im sure every eagle fan would rather watch Wentz than Daniel play this year…

  92. 92 Media Mike said at 4:05 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Neither would I, but Chase Daniel will be starting at that point.

  93. 93 eagleyankfan said at 1:52 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    2. Eagles out of contention the last 2 weeks of the season. Bradford hurt. Why not let Wentz get his feet wet….

  94. 94 Cafone said at 1:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    sounds about right.

  95. 95 Cafone said at 1:58 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    This is the offseason, a time for baseless optimism, so how about predictions on how many playoff games Wentz starts this season?

  96. 96 BobSmith77 said at 2:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Does beating the Giants or Cowboys during a regular season game this year count as a ‘playoff game?’

  97. 97 D3FB said at 2:31 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    4. Not going to throw him in during the Seahawks-Packers-Bengals stretch.

  98. 98 anon said at 2:33 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    going to be a depressing sretch of football. Though maybe we can beat seahawks? Probably not

  99. 99 D3FB said at 2:35 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Probably not out there.

  100. 100 BobSmith77 said at 7:28 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Beatings to continue until morale improves . . .

  101. 101 BobSmith77 said at 2:52 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    The line in Vegas right now is at 3.5.

  102. 102 Media Mike said at 4:05 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think he’s on full sit mode.

  103. 103 anon said at 4:42 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    yeah they clearly have a plan for him, not sure they’d waste it

  104. 104 Gary Barnes said at 4:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Wentz takes over by week 11

  105. 105 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:03 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    How is it that The national media HASNT said a peep about Goff since the draft, but you can’t go one day without hearing about Wentz on Espn
    Bwahahaha Sal Pal’s bullshit right on que: “difference between Wentz and the other Eagles QBs, the ball Explodes out of Wentz hands” hahahahahahaha can the bullshit be any more predictable than that? Dance Sal Pal Dance…

  106. 106 Cafone said at 2:07 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    There is no qb controversy in the Rams camp. Most people don’t even know who will serve as Goff’s placeholder if he doesn’t open the season as a starter (Nick Foles I guess?)

  107. 107 anon said at 2:08 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think Clemens actually — there was talk of nick getting straight cut after the draft, but maybe they’re holding out for any TC injuries.

  108. 108 Cafone said at 2:26 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    They are on Hard Knocks this year so I guess we will have an inside look at the process.

  109. 109 Eagle Talon said at 4:23 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    It seemed, to me anyway, that the media kept gushing over how Bradford’s arm was night and day compared to the other quarter backs all last spring and summer. Are they using the same articles and changing Bradford or Sam to Wentz and Carson.

  110. 110 Nick C said at 2:16 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sam is getting the best coaching of his life for this press conference— 15 minutes late

  111. 111 Iskar36 said at 3:03 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Interesting. I haven’t had a chance to read it and have only seen headlines (which can be frustratingly misleading), but the little I have seen seems to have a slightly different take and that Bradford was not giving great answers (said it was Condons idea rather than taking ownership of his own decision/acknowledged no one promised him anything and not only that, but the team discussed thay it was only a two year deal with him… an argument used by the few Bradford supporters/viewing things week to week rather than stating he will compete like he is the long term starter, whether it’s for the Eagles or some other team). I’m definitely going to have to listen to the PC later and look forward to seeing some takes thay aren’t just instant takes.

  112. 112 peteike said at 3:10 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I bet Condon told him to blame it on him, easier route to take the pressure off and what would Condon care

  113. 113 Iskar36 said at 3:21 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yea. That would not surprise me in the least. It also meshes well with the message Condon himself has been pushing. I guess to me though, you are responsible for your own actions. Whether Condon pushed the idea on Bradford or not, Condon still represents Bradford and Bradford ultimately makes the decision. So it’s a bit disingenuous to say it is just Condon’s idea, but from a PR standpoint, I completely understand making that statement.

  114. 114 anon said at 2:28 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    With no Cox in attendance, Taylor Hart is getting first-team work alongside Bennie Logan. Vinny Curry and Connor Barwin are getting the nod at defensive end, with Brandon Graham and Marcus Smith running with the second team.

    Some other defensive notes: Eric Rowe and Leodis McKelvin start on the outside, with Ron Brooks initially in the slot and rotating in. Nolan Carroll went through individual drills but does not participate in team. Jordan Hicks is sitting out team drills as well with tightness in his legs, according to Pederson.

  115. 115 anon said at 2:30 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    12:02 — Leodis McKelvin
    is all over Huff down the right sideline. He leaps to break up the
    Bradford pass and then talks trash on his way back. Later, he takes Huff
    down to the ground on a pass over the middle.

    12:09 — More good stuff out of the DBs. Rowe sticks with Randle on a fly pattern and forces the incompletion. Cory Undlin gives a fist pump and slaps Rowe’s hand as he makes his way back to the huddle.

  116. 116 DJH said at 4:22 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Is it possible the Eagles have finally figured out the formula for obtaining good DBs and DB coaches?

  117. 117 anon said at 4:33 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’ll wait until they play – but it’s certainly going to be harder than when it was Fletch and Sconces out there.

  118. 118 Gary Barnes said at 4:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Based on 1 practice in May? No…

  119. 119 Cafone said at 5:05 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    No, needs more SEC guys.

  120. 120 anon said at 2:34 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I wasn’t aware that sproles hadn’t been to anything this offseason. Bradford giving a lot of guys cover.

  121. 121 Cafone said at 2:36 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I tuned into the press conference right as it was ending. I didn’t hear anything that was said, but I didn’t like the smirk I saw on Bradford’s face as he walked away from the podium.

  122. 122 peteike said at 2:53 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    someone mentioned he didnt look comfortable and it was rough, waiting to read about it

  123. 123 anon said at 2:55 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Really good presser from Bradford.— Noah Becker (@Noah_Becker) May 17, 2016

  124. 124 anon said at 2:55 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    from a guy who i think hates bradford.

  125. 125 peteike said at 3:07 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    alrighty then, I cant trust that commenter ever again lol

  126. 126 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:10 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I thought it went about as well as I could have expected. He actually addressed some of the issues instead of hiding behind looking forward and not wanting to worry about the past, without saying anything to throw gasoline on the fire… It was never going,to be an easy press Confrence but I was satisfied with how it went

  127. 127 anon said at 2:37 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    From OTA reports defense looks aggressive, might be better than offense for the first time since, last year.

  128. 128 ChoTime said at 3:14 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I see what you did there. The D was probably better the year before, too, though.

  129. 129 anon said at 2:48 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Brandon Graham says Jim Schwartz has simple motto for the Defensive line: “Rush, Crush and close.”

  130. 130 scratcherk said at 2:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    sounds familiar……..

  131. 131 P_P_K said at 4:32 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  132. 132 scratcherk said at 2:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    A little disconcerting that Dougy has tried to reach out to Cox multiple times but hasnt been able to

  133. 133 anon said at 2:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    better question would be rather Cox has talked to Schwartz.

  134. 134 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:32 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Nope.. Agent obviously advising Cox on no contact

  135. 135 BobSmith77 said at 3:00 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sam Bradford press conference:

    A press conference about absolutely nothing kind of like Seinfeld. Sam should have worn a dress shirt with a round collar to make it feel more like the 90s.

  136. 136 anon said at 3:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    did the yjust ask about buffalo/trade?

  137. 137 BobSmith77 said at 3:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Just rehashing the same old stuff.

  138. 138 anon said at 3:04 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    our press corps sucks

  139. 139 BobSmith77 said at 3:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I wouldn’t say that. If anything, there is massive overkill coverage of this team by so many reporters and it is often hard to find something unique to report on.

  140. 140 anon said at 3:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    differences betwen this year / last year practicing, scheme,

    be interesitng to me to see how much development work Wentz gets vs Bradford. Lots of people that can help, but is Chase basically there to help Wentz? Heard chase sort of looked like ass

  141. 141 A_T_G said at 3:21 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Maybe something with sleeves…

  142. 142 anon said at 3:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’d be happy if we could sweep our division. I sort of think that if we can beat Romo twice we could also beat good teams. Think defense is going to be carrying us.

    Glad to have Leodis on the team — seemed like a monster at camp and has great coaches the last few years. We’ll be interesting to see how the offense stacks up to the defense this offseason

  143. 143 peteike said at 3:09 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    oh man, Im excited about the defense. Im really worried about the head coach, scheme and a stagnant offense more than anything.

  144. 144 anon said at 3:10 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    me too, i almost think of him more as an oc than an hc.

  145. 145 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah Leodis could prove to be a very under rated additipn for us. Allegedly McKelvin and McLoud both stood out today, flying around, making plays all over The place… Rice was credited with two forced fumbles and an INT, not sure how legit fumbles are when the pads aren’t even on…

  146. 146 anon said at 4:09 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Defense seemed very physical. McKelvin was roughing up huff per reports.

  147. 147 Media Mike said at 4:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Shame getting a WR wasn’t in the cards for this draft; I’d love to see Huff roughed up right into the unemployment line.

  148. 148 Media Mike said at 4:03 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    4-2 is my target. Split with Washington and Dallas, dust the Giants twice.

  149. 149 BobSmith77 said at 5:35 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I see 2-4 and would be happy with 3-3.

  150. 150 Tumtum said at 3:16 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Would anyone like to see Andre Roberts on this roster at all?

  151. 151 Cafone said at 3:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Maybe. If we sign him can we trade him for DeSean Jackson?

  152. 152 anon said at 3:19 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    He’s not that good and i don’t think his skill set would bring anything different than what we already have on the team. I’d love to bring in a guy that doesn’t drop passes.

  153. 153 peteike said at 3:19 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    is Randle now our hands guy

  154. 154 Tumtum said at 3:22 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    God no, that title goes to Krause.

  155. 155 peteike said at 3:23 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Krause ha, oh yeah, is that dude still around

  156. 156 Tumtum said at 3:24 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah I actually did a quick look at the roster to name a random dude, and when I saw his name…. he probably actually does have that title!

  157. 157 Media Mike said at 4:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    The only WR I want to add is Anquan Boldin, but that is moot given the signings of Givins and Randall.

  158. 158 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:03 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    He gave the skins like Agholar level production the past two years…. Doubt we are interested

  159. 159 Tumtum said at 3:23 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Any one that actually has talent evaluation ability think that Bunche looks like he gives inconsistent effort, in that video?

  160. 160 Media Mike said at 4:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    We’ll see what type of corner Bunche turned once pre-season games start. I’m dying to know what a year of NFL practice did for him.

  161. 161 D3FB said at 8:32 AM on May 18th, 2016:

    Nope. That’s been his MO. My college roommate was teammates with him so I’ve kept tabs on him all the way back when he was at Miami. He always comes in impresses with his talent and then doesn’t improve and coaches get fed up.

  162. 162 anon said at 3:37 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    “I just realized this is still the best place for me to be,” Bradford
    claimed Tuesday. Bradford attempted to get philosophical when explaining
    why he skipped voluntary practices. “I just felt like I needed some
    time. I could have stayed here, could have continued to work here, but
    I’m not sure my head really would have been here those two weeks.” It’s
    probably the best answer he could have given. Bradford has been
    proclaimed “the guy” by coach Doug Pederson, who insists he doesn’t want
    the veteran looking over his shoulder. That will be unavoidable with
    No. 2 overall pick Carson Wentz in the fray.

  163. 163 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:46 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sometimes playërs say some really absurd ish…
    Ertz claims that Bradford Wasnt gifted his starting spot when he joined the team, he didn’t get first team reps right away. he had to earn his #1 spot back, so now everything is ok and San is back as the #1…… He “Earned” his spot back when he practiced a grand total of like 5 days? What was he the #2 QB at OTAs for half an hour?
    Ertz stands behind SAM said you don’t have to have a tean meeting when a guy misses 7 days of OTAs and that SAM earned his spof back.
    But Ertz also said “when Wentz time comes it will be an unbelievable time for us”.

  164. 164 RC5000 said at 3:53 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Jon Runyan, a former Pro Bowl offensive tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles who later served in the U.S. House of Representatives, will join the NFL office as the league’s discipline officer for on-field violations such as illegal hits.

    Runyan also will oversee the NFL’s inspection program for uniforms and protective equipment as the league’s vice president of policy and rules administration. His appointment is expected to be announced soon, according to a person with knowledge of the league’s inner workings.

  165. 165 anon said at 3:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Runyan also will oversee the NFL’s inspection program for uniforms and
    protective equipment as the league’s vice president of policy and rules
    administration – task of how to get ads on jerseys?

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 4:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  167. 167 peteike said at 5:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    its probably coming to all our sports unfortunately. Now if we could only get them on senators it would be true progress

  168. 168 Cafone said at 5:00 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    At first I was shocked the NFL would give someone as dim as Runyan a league job but then I saw it was silly cake job.

  169. 169 Gary Barnes said at 5:00 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Really? LOL…love Runyan, hope he will crack down on the floppers too looking for calls and the guys who sit down faking injuries to stop offensive drives.

  170. 170 Cafone said at 5:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    No, it seems like he’s the guy who will hand out fines for people who write stuff on their shoes.

  171. 171 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:53 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Think Sam handled his press Confrence about as well as I could have expected.

    He also sounds genuine about respecting the game which means helping to Develope Carson, remembers how hard it was to be a rookie and will do anything he can to help Wentz, nice to hear, THATS already better than how Favre behaved after they drafted Rodgers.
    Said it means a lot to him that Pederson has his back. And that he doesn’t expect it to be a problem with his teammates because talking to them and hearing how they support and want him back played a big role in deciding to come back.
    Hopefully the media can have its fun milking every drop of Drama out of this and then allow us to move forward and put this behind us when mandatory activities start

  172. 172 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:00 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Starting to be a nervous wreck over this damn lottery…hate this crappy lottery system

  173. 173 peteike said at 4:40 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    big night here. We can still do the sac trade and get lakers pick next year, dont fret. Are you a pro Simmons guy? I want Ingram

  174. 174 Sean Stott said at 4:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I like Ingram but the team needs Simmons more

  175. 175 peteike said at 5:04 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    no, no need for soft foreign players who cant shoot. We want real potential

  176. 176 Sean Stott said at 5:07 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    At some point they can’t just keep adding talents that look good in a vacuum, it might be a good idea to get someone who can help the team be a more cohesive unit. Team needs to be more than the sum of its parts, and while I will be absolutely thrilled if they land Ingram, I think Simmons might (Might! I don’t know anything for sure) be more of a net positive to the team as a whole.

  177. 177 peteike said at 5:07 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    ya I was kidding, who knows what these kids will turn into. Half of it is work ethic if not more than half if they have the skill sets and athleticism to start

  178. 178 Cafone said at 5:08 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    A few years ago I would have agreed with you but it seems like such a shooters league now and Simmon’s lack of shooting concerns me.

  179. 179 peteike said at 5:08 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    me too and I just read how his “team” is concerned with his shoe deal. He wants to go to Lakers so he gets a bigger shoe deal. Priorities

  180. 180 Cafone said at 5:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    On the other hand, if it’s a toss up, maybe go with the guy who isn’t tatted up like he just spent 15 years in prison.

  181. 181 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:07 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sounds dumb, INGRAM is a sweetheart, everyone raves about what a great kid he is and his work ethic
    Btw he isn’t a tattooed “Thug”, he was a 6’7 skateboarder growing up… If we are lucky the kid with the Tats will be a sixer

  182. 182 anon said at 6:21 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Those shoe deals have baseball numbers, his team probably knows where the $$ comes from.

  183. 183 peteike said at 6:29 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    ya I know, Id be concerned too, its unreal

  184. 184 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:45 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Simmons will cause us to trade another top pick away… Ingram fits easily with every player we have

  185. 185 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:31 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Think they need INGRAM more.
    SIMMONS will be better next year, but I’d bet on ingram growing into the better pro. Don’t even know what to do with INGRAM. As a PF I don’t think he can bully his way to the rim which is all he did in college and as a Pg, do we really want a PG that can’t shoot? His personality also scares the hell out of me.
    He chose LSU because they let him film his showtime documentary which Duke and Kentucky would have never allowed.. Now he is letting Shoe deal dictate where he wants to go? For a kid who showed very little heart in college and quit on his team? SIMMONS will make teammates better, but SIMMONS can be that closer for us and carry a scoring load… Don’t like that he didn’t insist on LSU playing in the NIT… Im lucky I saw a lot of his high school career, if I only saw him play at LSU I would be totally turned Off by him.
    I also think INGRAM and Saric can give us a lot of what we would get from Ben, but Ben can’t give us what we can get from INGRAM… People act like INGRAM can’t get a defensive rebound, push the ball down court and dish, which he can do very well, and It’s what people like about INGRAM.
    Trust Ingrams personality and work ethic more

  186. 186 Cafone said at 5:06 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I’ll be happy with either, kind of like Goff/Wentz

  187. 187 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:05 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    INGRAM… But I really don’t want the Lakers pick this year, I will be so mad if we get that Lakers pick….. Just give me INGRAM and im thrilled… Bembry and Taureen Prince/MALIK Beasley with our late first round picks would be great

    I desperately want the lakers to get #3, so they keep their pick.but miss out on INGRAM and SIMMONS..
    I want INGRAM way more than I want SIMMONS, but it’s not like I think SIMMONS is a complete fraud like I thought about Dangelo Russell
    As Long as we stay the fuck away from Kris Dunn, most over rated player in the draft, stay away from Buddy Heild, and don’t touch Melo Trimble, I’ll live wifh the results

  188. 188 peteike said at 6:10 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    So you prefer Murray then as a point? I was curious about some of the later guys in the draft. Havent done much research this year so late to the game

  189. 189 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:24 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Fuck a PG… If we draft Dunn, I Guaremtee we will want to draft over him next year and take another PG… Next year is an absolute STACKED DRAFT, and it’s a Special PG draft, the best part is Josh Jackson, Tatum and GIles are going top 3, so we only have to get to #4 to have our choice of the 6 five,star PGs Lonzo Ball is everything we wish MCW really was, Jason Kidd with a jumper… dennis Smith Jr is pretty nasty, Frank Ntakilinita from France is a bad ass.. Markel Fultz from Washington is really special, the kid going to Duke who made Deryk Thornton transfer out of Duke is pretty good… The worst of the top PGs next year D’Aron Fox from Kentucky would be the top Pg this year
    28 five star freshman next year, in a normal draft their are about 15… Next year is a really special draft class.. We will have our own top pick next year, plus an option to swap with the kings, and we could have the lakers pick meaning we have a shot at one of the top wings Josh Jackson or Tatum. AND we could get a special PG with the Lakers pick.
    But if we get stuck with #4 this year I do hope it becomes Jamal Murray. More capable of a PG than people think, he played off the ball because he can, and to accomadate Tyler Ulis… But he spent the last two years dominating the top PG’s in high school on an international level before he got to kentucky
    Figure we spemd this year evaluating Jamal Murray at PG, sigń a stop gap backüp PG like Grevias Vasquez, and at the end of the year we can move Murray to SG, and take a Franchise PG in next years stacked Draft, ideally Lonzo Ball as a pure BIGTIME franchie PG, or because we would have a combo guard like Murray who can play PG and SG, we could pair him with another combo guard next year in Markel Fultz, and have two Guards who can handle the rock and shoot to hopefully pair with INGRAM at SF
    If Colangelo has half a brain he will wait till next year to really invest in our franchise PG, THATS why I desperately want the Lakers pick NEXT YEAR, not NOW! Rather have two picks next year, #7 in next years draft would be better than #4 this year,,,,, but if we have to take their pick this year, it has to be Murray…
    Kris Dunn is the worst thing that can happen to us… Teams are also doing buddy Heild a disservice by taking him top 10, he isn’t that type a prospect, he belongs in the 20s but will be grossly over drafted,,, if we can’t have Jamal Murray at #4, probably go with Luwawu the French wing from the adriatic league, but I bet he ends up in Denver unless they win the lottery.. If we get #4 and someone takes Murray #3,’they have to consider drafting another 7ft in Dragan Bender, and hold him hostage for a draft night trade

  190. 190 peteike said at 6:35 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    good stuff, thanks. I am reading about Prince…”He grew 11 inches in high school, going from being a 5’8 point guard to a 6’7 center” wow. Bembry is interesting

  191. 191 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:40 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Bembry we can pass on if we get SIMMONS, because his strength is as a playmaking forward which we would get from SIMMONS… But if we get INGRAM, I’d love to get Bembry in the 20s… Think Colangelo will be interested in Drafting a few of the older kids like Bembry and Prince, since he doesn’t want too much youth.
    I also don’t want the lakers pick because I fear colangelo trading it

  192. 192 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:41 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    The kid from VillNova Hart could also be in play in the 20s… But he might go back to Villanova

  193. 193 RobNE said at 4:43 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think we will get screwed. I have no faith.

    Edit: and I’m still so pissed and ownership and jerry.

  194. 194 Cafone said at 4:59 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    We better not get screwed. We hired the Colangelos to appease the NBA so they better keep up their end of the deal.

  195. 195 Duracell said at 4:50 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Ideal situation is that the Kings get #1, Sixers #2, and the Lakers #4. Sixers reserve the right to swap with the Kings, and then would also wind up with the 4th pick.

    But yeah, we’re probably going to wind up with just #3.

  196. 196 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    No, getting the lakers pick this year is the worst thing that could happen besides us falling out of the top 2… Believe me, we want the Lakers pick Next year

  197. 197 Duracell said at 7:18 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I hope you’re right. I’m only a casual NBA fan, and don’t follow the Sixers the same way I do the Eagles.

    My fear was that the Lakers would sign enough guys and be picking in the back end of the lottery next year. Outside of Giles and Jackson, I don’t know much about the strength of next year’s class. If the Lakers’ pick is likely in the top 2 next year, then I agree with you.

  198. 198 Dave said at 4:09 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    After watching Bradford’s press conference, I couldn’t help but wonder if Sam’s (Condon’s) contract demands brought about the Wentz trade.

    Sam said in the press conference that the reason he only signed a 2-year deal was that he was looking to play well during the next 2 years to secure a long-term deal with the team. I imagine the reason that a long-term deal wasn’t agreed upon was Condon’s asking price was to be one of the highest-paid QBs in the league.

    In retrospect, I wonder if Sam realizes that if he took a team friendly contract like Andy Dalton or Kaep (lower salary that team can get out from under in a few years if the player under performs), that the Eagles may not have traded for Wentz.

  199. 199 anon said at 4:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    who knows if that was even on the table. I think a short term deal was the right thing for both sides. IF bradford sucks this year or is mediocre why keep him around just b/c he’s only making $15m?

  200. 200 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:13 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Yeah as a bradford supporter, taking the short term deal was smart on the Eagles part especially if they didn’t have to dive in and commit Longterm to retain him… Why wouldn’t they prefer a short term deal when the guy only made it thru one season healthy and they are still signing him hoping he will realize his potemtial…

  201. 201 Media Mike said at 4:13 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I think Bradford took the best deal he was offered and the Eagles had a mind to look for a young QB in the draft as the reason why they only offered this current deal to Bradford. His current contract was far and away the best he could do.

  202. 202 Cafone said at 4:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    He took the only deal he was offered. He wasn’t a free agent yet. The Eagles decided to make the contract good enough to convince him to forgo free agency.

  203. 203 Dave said at 5:24 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    It’s speculation that he took the only deal the Eagles offered.

    It was leaked that Condon was asking for $20+M per year. I imagine the 2-year deal was a compromise as Howie was not going to sign a long-term deal for that much money and Condon wanted no part of a long-term deal at a discounted rate.

  204. 204 Greg Richards said at 4:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I know Zach Mettenberger isn’t any type of great prospect but even if the Cowgirls wanted him to back up Romo, no such luck. Claimed by the Chargers.

  205. 205 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Back with Wisenhunt…
    Thinking/hoping that Geno Smith ends up #2 in dallas.. Fingers crossed

  206. 206 peteike said at 4:37 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Geno is the starter for the Jets?

  207. 207 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:01 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    for now… I would think he eventually gets cut and,Fitzpatrik is brought back but maybe Fitzy is willing to retire if he doesn’t get paid what he is looking for

  208. 208 peteike said at 6:08 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    ya I work with a Jets fan. Says they are up against it with the cap. He thinks they are winning too since the market dried up like hey Fitz, heres your offer. Take it or leave it. I think they assume they can get the same out of Geno and he said they had a really soft schedule last year and he was just tossing it up and Decker and Marshall were making him look good. They have a brutal schedule this year, start out with 5 of 6 playoff teams and 4 of them are away. Then close season with 2 Pats games down stretch, ouch.

  209. 209 Gian GEAGLE said at 6:10 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Forte might also help them… But I would have rather kept Ivory if I was the jets
    Fitz was at a ny hockey game just a couple weeks ago with a few of the other jets. I assume he will cave and take their offer eventually, since its not like he has a bunch of better offers

  210. 210 peteike said at 6:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    ya Im thinking same. I think Forte is a beast and an upgrade over Ivory per the passing game. Hes gettin up there in age but keeps producing, good signing for them

  211. 211 anon said at 6:20 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    gotta say that he was doing a ton of check downs in our game. Missing on Decker (for cooper) and B. Marsh both bad imho.

  212. 212 daveH said at 8:59 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Mike drop and you didnt even rub it in our faces.
    Nicely done With the Mettenberger

  213. 213 Gary Barnes said at 4:43 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Love Five Guys burgers…

  214. 214 Dave said at 5:17 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Here is a tip to make identical burgers at home (as I love 5 Guys too but hate the price).

    I buy 1 pound square packs of grass fed beef from Wegmans and separate them into quarters (1/4 pound each). I press them out so they are only about 1/4 inch thick and then use sea salt and fresh cracked black pepper each side.

    Fire the grill up with all burners on high and once the grill gets to 500+ degrees, I put the burgers on and close the lid. After about 1 minute, I flip the burgers and close the lid again. After about 1 more minute I flip them again and place cheese on them. After about 30 seconds, they are done and on the rolls ready to eat.

    They will be extremely juicy and slightly pink on the inside. My family cannot taste the difference between mine and 5 Guys. The best thing as that you can make them in the dark in the winter since you don’t have to guess when they are done. We even eat them as double cheeseburgers as they are so thin.

  215. 215 anon said at 5:19 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    agree – most of these burgers succeed w/ good beef and thin patties. Potato rolls also help. I find the burgers at 5 guys a little greasy. 5 guys fries are great.

  216. 216 Sean Stott said at 5:20 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    5 guys fries are heaven. Especially cajun.

  217. 217 peteike said at 5:31 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    well, we can get into the diner style burger that 5 guys serves vs a burger cooked to order that is thick enough to cook medium. Then even individually owned (which youll probably find the best) vs a chain.

    For the diner style I love 5 guys and yes, you get a bit of grease with that. Out here in CO we have smashburger which takes pride in cooking them in their own grease and creating a crispy layer. While decent, it can also send you running. Nice that we have all these options now, theres so many of these fast casual burger places now, Lark Burger is another out here, pretty good. I think its put a real dent in the fast food business.

  218. 218 anon said at 5:37 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I like smash as well, really greatful more people doing thin paty diner style vs “steakhouse” burgers with huge patties.

  219. 219 peteike said at 5:40 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I have had some bad luck with Smash hurtin me lol so wont go there anymore. I like 5 guys more for that reason. Gotta limit eating burgers anyway in general.

  220. 220 anon said at 5:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    agree and i think the best burger (and cheapest) is cooked at home. Crank the range as high as it goes. A thin patty flipped twice in 2 minutes plus cheese or whatever else you like. Potato roll and fixings.

  221. 221 peteike said at 5:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    really, I can pull it off at times but still something about eating out with burgers I will always like better. I consider myself a decent cook too and cook quite often so thats not the issue. Just love burgers more when someone else makes them lol

  222. 222 anon said at 5:57 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    completely understandable.

  223. 223 Dave said at 7:41 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I read about this last week and Googled it for a simplified response to your post:

    “After a series of experiments, researchers at Carnegie Mellon University affirmed that people prefer the taste of sandwiches made by other people to ones that they made themselves, and found that the reason is most likely that when making their own sandwich, people spend more time thinking about sandwiches and it makes them enjoy it less later. The researchers explained that imagining eating a food actually makes you less hungry for it later, so when someone else makes a sandwich for you, you haven’t already ‘pre-consumed’ it while putting it together, and it’s a more enjoyable experience.”

  224. 224 daveH said at 8:55 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Huge greasy gross

  225. 225 Sean Stott said at 5:19 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I also really like their burgers, altho damn they’re pretty expensive compared to competitors. Most of you guys probably don’t have access to In-n-Out, which is also very good. Half the price of 5 guys. But I like both.

  226. 226 anon said at 5:11 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Kenjon Barner got the first first team rep at running back but Ryan Mathews and Wendell Smallwood also got mixed in as well

    Jordan Matthews, Nelson Agholor, and Josh Huff were the starting receivers. Matthews got some looks as an outside receiver but he was mostly in the slot still. Zach Ertz was the main tight end.

  227. 227 BobSmith77 said at 5:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Is Heath Sherman getting any reps? About Siran Stacy (one of the Eagles’ bigger draft busts who somehow never gets mentioned and yet another failed Bama RB)?

  228. 228 Eagle Talon said at 6:39 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    James Joseph is getting Stacy’s reps. Anthony Toney is sidelined with turf toe.

  229. 229 daveH said at 8:54 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Running back controversy AND WR controversy? ?! Wtf is going on !!

  230. 230 Sean Stott said at 5:12 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Bradford’s PC wasn’t as cringy as I imagined it would be. He pretty much deflected the endless assault of questions. What was funny tho is I don’t know if he really smiled once during it, but as soon as he left the lectern he couldn’t hide a laugh, I’m sure he’s been dreading this PC for weeks and is elated that it’s over with.

  231. 231 peteike said at 5:14 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    ya has to be right. He knows it probably isnt going away that easy either. Oh well

  232. 232 Gian GEAGLE said at 5:59 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I thought it went as well as I could have expected, yet to no surprise talk radio is killing him for the press Confrence led by Donkey Sal Pal.. I have no idea how anyone could listen to that press Confrence and kill him for it, but im not surprised at the sports radio stupidity

  233. 233 BobSmith77 said at 5:49 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Does Chase Daniel have to learn magic tricks or start lighting off fireworks to get any reporter to care about him?

  234. 234 anon said at 5:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Only comment i saw was the he didn’t look great accuracy-wise. But he’ll probably get 0 media coverage.

  235. 235 Lord of the Rings said at 6:16 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    he could fight sam

  236. 236 anon said at 7:46 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Ertz says Bradford wasn't with the first team when he first got back to practice. Says he had to earn his way back. #Eagles— Eliot Shorr-Parks (@EliotShorrParks) May 17, 2016

  237. 237 Cafone said at 8:46 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Sixers #1 pick!


  238. 238 Sean Stott said at 8:56 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    I completely changed my mind from earlier and now covet Ingram. Let LA have Simmons.

  239. 239 mtn_green said at 9:13 PM on May 17th, 2016:


  240. 240 Greg Richards said at 9:02 PM on May 17th, 2016:

    Gym Shorts

    29m29 minutes ago

    After hearing that a Philly team got the No. 1 pick, Sam Bradford instinctively demanded a trade again.