Always Looking

Posted: August 26th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 159 Comments »

This can be a crazy time of the year for the personnel department of NFL teams. Players are coming and going en masse, and at a furious rate. There are a lot of tough decisions to make that involve some crazy variables, often unknowns. Is Marcus Smith the next Jerome McDougle or Jerry Hughes? The Eagles gave McDougle chance after chance and he never panned out. Hughes had 1 sack after his first 2 years in the league, but then improved in his third season, before really taking off when he went to play in a new scheme.

Howie Roseman, Joe Douglas and the rest of the Eagles personnel department have a lot to figure out. The Eagles have a solid core of players, but hardly a great roster. They need to find the right 53 players for the 2016 season, with an eye to the future. There will be a lot of players going and coming in the next few weeks as the Eagles try to find the right 53.

Remember that any roster should be written in pencil. Injuries and suspensions mean that things can change in a heartbeat. You also never know when a talented player is going to become available, forcing you to cut someone so you can add that player. Rosters are fluid, not definitive. You know the old joke…NFL stands for “not for long”.

He must suck so the team needs to dump him, right? Not the case at all. Hart has proven to be a better fit at DT than anyone would have guessed. But the Eagles suddenly find themselves deep at DT. That statement shocks me, but they have made some very good moves this offseason and they have more than enough bodies right now.

We know the starters are good. There was no depth after them so the team signed veteran Mike Martin. He had a terrific offseason. Injuries have kept him out of the preseason so far, but the way Doug Pederson spoke this week, Martin is a virtual lock to make the team.

Holdover Beau Allen has proven to be a good fit in the new scheme. He also has more bulk than the other DTs, giving him some added value for short yardage situations. There are times when you need someone who can eat up blocks.

The Eagles signed a trio of UDFA DTs in Connor Wujciak, Destiny Vaeao and Aziz Shittu. Wujciak got hurt and is out for the year. Vaeao has played well enough that he will make the roster. Shittu has potential, but will have to hope for a practice squad spot.

Now you have:

Fletcher Cox
Bennie Logan

Mike Martin
Beau Allen
Destiny Vaeao

That’s 5 DTs the team likes. They want a 4-man rotation at the spot so they’re covered. That makes Taylor Hart expendable. Shopping him also makes sense because he can play in the 3-4 or 4-3. He’s only 25 years old and is cheap for now. The Eagles could cut Martin, but I think they like the fact he has experience. Allen has only played in the 3-4 in the NFL and not that much overall. Vaeao is a rookie. Martin has 5 career starts and has played in 46 games.

Hart won’t bring much, but the Eagles have a chance to get a late round pick out of him.

What? Who?

Reynolds is a WR who played collegiately at Iowa State. He is 6-2, 205 and runs in the 4.5 range. He can make some tough grabs.

Metz is a DL from Shippensburg. He has a terrific frame at 6-65, 265. Not a gifted athlete, but you can see why the Eagles would want him as an edge rusher to look at up close for a couple of weeks.

Neither player is likely to make the roster, but you never know when they will look like good practice squad material or plant a seed with the team for when next January rolls around and the Eagles need to add some developmental players.

Money is a factor to consider when it comes to this time of the year. Cheaper is always better, all other things being even. I thought this was an interesting move.

With Lane Johnson likely out for 10 weeks, I think Gardner should make the team. I don’t know if Jeff Stoutland will agree, but I think Gardner should make the roster over Barrett Jones or Josh Andrews. Stefen Wisniewski can be your backup C. Gardner can play OG or RT. And with that cut, the price should be right.

Age is another factor at this time of the year. Younger is better. The Eagles don’t have a lot of older players that need to be worried. That will change in the coming years.

Beyond Hart, are they any other players who could be traded?

Eric Rowe would make some sense. The current staff clearly isn’t in love with him. Still, He has enough upside that I don’t think you get rid of him for the heck of it. And there are no character issues with Rowe. This would be a matter of some other team coveting his length/size and being desperate for corner help. You wouldn’t get much in return so this doesn’t seem likely.

The Eagles could move a DE. Think about gamedays. Connor Barwin, Vinny Curry and Brandon Graham will be active. So will Bryan Braman. It is possible a 5th DE could be active, but there’s no guarantee. The Eagles can put Alex McCallister on the practice squad to develop. Steven Means has outplayed Marcus Smith, but the team could trade either guy, knowing there is a shot the other player would make the Eagles roster but be inactive most Sundays. Again, we’re not talking about getting much in return.

You can bet Roseman will be active when cuts start happening. He will have a top group of 45 to 50 players that are fairly set but things will be wide open after that. I think we can all agree that Roseman isn’t shy when it comes to making moves and taking chances.


159 Comments on “Always Looking”

  1. 1 Always Looking - said at 11:02 PM on August 26th, 2016:

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  2. 2 Greg Tulino said at 12:05 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I recognize we do not have a “Super Bowl” Roster, but you can not tell me that this team is not more talented than last year. Improved O-line. Improved Secondary, and improved WR core. Special Teams already solid. Nobody is going to tell me that last years WR’s are better on paper than this year. We had Riley Freaking Cooper last year. LOL.

    Didn’t we score points last year for the most part? Wasn’t our defense the real problem last year? Heck, if SB did not get hurt in Miami game we likely win that game and win the division last year. Anyone here think our defense will not be better this year? I don’t accept that this years Roster is not good enough to compete and potentially win the NFC East. Like other teams we will need some luck and to stay fairly healthy, but all this talk of a 5-6-7 win team seems unfair.

    I recognize much of the pessimism lies in a rookie head coach and average QB who has not played at a level that makes others around him better consistently. I get it, but it is possible that DP and his staff is competent. It’s also possible that SB can play at a level we saw the last 7 games of the season. Not elite, but above average QB play. Finally, it is very realistic that this JS defense and scheme could put our defense in position to be a top 10-12 defense. This could absolutely translate into a 9 win season that keeps us in contention until late December. That’s all we can really ask for until the Wentz ERA begins.

  3. 3 Media Mike said at 5:55 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    The Lane suspension really gives me ill feelings about the o-line. Especially if that translates to Bradford suffering an injury. Barbre frightens me, Peters is a long shot to play 16 games at a top level, Seumalo is a rookie who will make some rookie mistakes, and Kelce seems to spend more time talking than blocking. I do love the addition of Brooks however.

    Because I see so many issues with the line, I can’t really predict great things for the O. I’m not going to harp on the lack of talent at WR and the lack of depth at RB. That’ll all be fine if they block.

    The D is going to be really improved. Schwartz has improved the D just about everywhere he’s coached, so I don’t see why that wouldn’t happen here. The special teams should remain solid.

    So your 9 win total wouldn’t shock me, but I remain stuck on 7ish because of how bad I think this o-line will be. I totally don’t get the 3-13 type predictions however.

  4. 4 Fufina said at 6:02 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I think the OL will be ‘fine’. Chips scheme left all our OL on an island with no support, so even if we are struggling at 1 or 2 spots with tough match ups we should be able to get help with a TE’s and RB’s helping blocking. Andy put together good offenses with some pretty poor offensive linemen at times. Think 3 years of Chip have changed the perception of whats needed to be a solid OL unit – you don’t need 5 elite performing OL like we had in 2013 to be successful.

    Now I am not saying it cant go all wrong – Peters gets injured week 2, Seumalo gets beaten up inside since we have to slide protection to protect an outmatched back up LT and things are suddenly going to start falling to pieces…. but that is worse case scenario stuff and most teams would suffer the same.

  5. 5 Media Mike said at 6:08 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I’ll have to see it to believe it with the O-line. I’d struggle to have a lower opinion of Barbre / Kelce than I currently hold and Peters falls into an age / nagging injury bracket that makes him unlikely to return to his prior HOF level form.

    I 100% agree with you that you don’t need to have an epic level O-line to be a good team, but the fragile nature of Bradford and the relative lack of great players in the skill positions is going to magnify the problems of that group.

  6. 6 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:20 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Omg you and this Kelce shit…

  7. 7 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:19 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Very well said…. Think chips blocking scheme was a huge flaw that has been overlooked. Too often his offense required giving the 5 Lineman No help….those days are over, and we should enjoy the element of surprise where as everyone knew what we were doing last year
    It’s ridiculous that the media doesn’t think we improved

  8. 8 Fufina said at 5:55 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I agree with you – the narrative around the team has been weird all year – and that was before they traded up for Wentz.

    I am not a Bradford fan – i like more gun slingy QB’s rather than controlled consistency, but in this offensive scheme and with the defence shaping up, Bradford needs to find a way to score 3 TD’s and we will win most games. Considering our special teams and defence will help with field position you would think that is something that this team can deliver on consistently enough to get us 8-10 wins and be right in the NFC East playoff hunt with that record.

  9. 9 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:51 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Shhhhh don’t ruin the silly narative that we won’t be competing for the division
    It’s funny, because our Rivals have big name WRs, ALL THEIR FLAWS are ignored and glossed over. Can’t wait to play the flawed rosters in our division

  10. 10 Greg Tulino said at 1:06 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    After last years Pre-season many national and local pundits had the Eagles advancing deep into the playoffs and some had us winning the Super Bowl with a lesser roster than we have today. They know less than we ( fans) do. Are we a super bowl roster right now? Of course not, but we damn sure are good enough to compete in this division if a few things break our way.

  11. 11 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Well said. I think the media is going to look really bad This year. We aren’t ready to compete with the legit contenders, but there is no reason why any Eagle fan should be going into this season thinking anything less than winning such a wide open division..
    All you hear about this summer is how we don’t have big name WRs…. Last I checked, WRs DONT carry their teams to Super Bowl wins too often. Id rather be weak at WR than to have the worst defensive ends in the NFL… People worried about our Linebackers, have they seem the garbage LB dallas and the Giants have? We have the best safeties in the division, maybe the NFL… No one else has elite safeties in our division. Giamts have the slowest safety tandem in the NFL, yet you don’t hear our media talk about Ertz, Burton and Sproles having a field day against slow safeties and badLinebackers
    This may be the worst media coverage we ever had as Eagle fans. This years team should look very different than what the media seems to think… Specifically our offense. We won’t average 30 points a game, but these idiots got this crazy idea that our offense will suck…. So stupid
    at No POINT in this season will any team in our division have more than a two win lead over the next best team in the division. It’s going to be a close dog fight all year with the division probably being won on the last game of the season. I’ll be shocked if we aren’t in the mix for the division once we get to DECEMBER, unless injuries decimate us of course
    We have the best defense in the division, but that doesn’t seem to count for anything since the Cowboys have DEz bryant and the Giants have ODB…. What drugs are people smoking to think that the Giants and Cowboys have a better 53 man roster than us? We may not have GREAT all Pros at every position, but we don’t have the glaring weaknesses that they have,,,, Id rather be solid across the board with no glaring holes, than to have a few great players and glaring weaknesses at multiple starting positions…
    Our team is very much improved from last years team that lost the division at the end of the season

  12. 12 BobSmith77 said at 4:00 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    OL is a much bigger issue to me and far and away the most pressing one. I don’t have much faith in Kelce rebounding and the tackles are a mess.

    Too bad too because the formula was in place albeit lacking a decent RB to play a grind out type of football, have a 4-2 record in the NFC East, and end up at at 9-7.

    Still see this as 6-10 team.

  13. 13 anon said at 1:32 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Can’t believe dumping Rowe is something we’re even discussing .

  14. 14 Insomniac said at 2:14 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think we can really get anything for him. His tape as a CB is bad and safeties aren’t as highly valued as CBs. I heard the Browns need a DB and we do need a WR..

  15. 15 Anders said at 3:04 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    His tape at CB is actually not bad. Outside of the Lions game against Calvin Johnson, he had a good rookie year

  16. 16 Media Mike said at 5:49 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I was going to say the exact same thing. I think the coaches see that as well, but might be riding him hard to humble him somewhat. There are a bunch of older CBs here on shorter term deals, so Rowe is a guy who is going to need to develop more for 2017 and beyond as well.

  17. 17 A_T_G said at 7:21 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    And I am sure coaches grade tape against CJ on a curve.

  18. 18 Insomniac said at 7:23 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    No he didn’t. Outside of two interceptions he looked pretty mediocre at best. Always trailing, can’t deal with any routes that would move him laterally, and even then with those picks they were ducks thrown right to him. Hardly impressive.

  19. 19 Mitchell said at 8:57 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    For a rookie cb to have 2 ints and look mediocre isnt really all that bad. Its not like it was his 3rd season.

  20. 20 Insomniac said at 9:43 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    It was actually only one but lets forget about that.

  21. 21 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:50 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    That’s not fair, because While he does tend to trail WRs, he is pretty good at recovering and getting himself in position to defend the pass…. When he gets older, that may become a weapon baiting QBs into a throw, in which he can recover and make a play on the ball..
    Way too soon to have this convo about giving up on Rowe

  22. 22 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:48 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    That Lions tape Wasnt even that bad, the results were horrible, but he was playing solid coverage. He won’t be the first corner who played well yet still got destroyed by Calvin

  23. 23 Tumtum said at 9:29 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    His tape is bad? I guess I was watching the wrong team when I thought he took over due to injury.

  24. 24 Insomniac said at 9:41 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I’m afraid most Eagles fans that don’t watch other teams play know what a decent CB looks like anymore.

  25. 25 Tumtum said at 11:39 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Haha very nice back handed comment. Yeah man I have no clue what is going on around the league. Just a big ole stupid Eagles fans.

  26. 26 Will Mahoney said at 4:53 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Media and fans have no patience.

  27. 27 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:47 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    They would have cut Jaylen Watkins 7 times if it were up to fans and media

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  29. 29 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:46 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Not “WE”….. Them! Don’t include me in that stupidity

  30. 30 anon said at 3:39 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Soooo Josh Gordon, 2-87-1, picking up right where he left off (covered by brent grimes). D-jax, 4-56, skins 1st team put up 3 passing TDs

    “Cousins overcame a rough start to finish 12 of 23 for 188 yards, three touchdowns and an interception. Despite coming mostly against Buffalo’s second- and third-stringers, it was an important recovery for Cousins, who had thrown only five passes in the preseason and was rested last week.” — finally some good news.

  31. 31 anon said at 3:50 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    “The Bucs field one of the least-inspiring pass-rush groups in the league, but they recorded five sacks on RGIII in the first half, while knocking him down a number of other times. They especially got after the quarterback on third down, as coach Hue Jackson dialed up a lot of long-developing plays only to see his offensive line not hold its blocks.”

  32. 32 Rellihcs said at 5:03 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Soooo, preseason.

  33. 33 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:45 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    All the explosive Talent they have at WR Couldnt keep RG3’from looking pretty bad

  34. 34 Greg Richards said at 7:25 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think it’s a lock that Vaeao makes the roster. I agree he’s shown enough to but keeping 5 DTs on the 53-man roster is difficult. I think they’re more likely to go heavy at DE(if they don’t add a 6th LB on waivers) for ST purposes. Curry and Graham are likely to get some snaps at DT on pass-rushing downs.

  35. 35 GermanEagle said at 12:09 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I second this. And I’m a smart arse.

  36. 36 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:45 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I think we keep 9 offensive lineman, and 9 DL(5 DE and 4 DTs).. 18 roster spots allocated to the trenches which is our strength compared to our Rivals

  37. 37 Tumtum said at 9:28 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t know if I would be more upset about Rowe being traded for nothing or languishing on the inactive list. I am desperate for a stud homegrown receiver. He is the only one on the horizon.

    Everyone knows what he did last year, where he was drafted. Its pretty clear he doesn’t click with JS. That could have a lot to do with his play. JS has talked about how he is a young player. My vibe is that he is in the dog house, but it is one of those Braveheart scenarios. “Kiss the ring and all will be forgiven”. Suck it up Rowe.. kiss the MF.

    It also sounds like he might not be the best practice player. He never really got much coach love last year… until he got into the games.

  38. 38 Tdoteaglefan said at 12:06 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    yeah I’m believing the second part of your comment as well…that he may be more of a “gamer” and not the best practice player. He didn’t particularly have a great preseason last year either, but then again he was playing slot corner a lot which was definitely not a strength.

    I also believe that his career may take the same trajectory as the player that he will eventually replace – Malcolm Jenkins, who was a decent corner earlier in his career but didn’t really shine until he became a safety. Possibly Rowe would be suited best as more of a playmaker at safety..

  39. 39 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:43 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think they will cut or trade Rowe.

  40. 40 anon said at 10:54 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    “Eagles coach Doug Pederson said Nelson Agholor “really stood out” this week in practice.
    The comments were unprompted, suggesting Agholor’s performance was good enough to be at the front of Pederson’s mind. A good week of practice is certainly a positive sign, but Agholor needs to build on it with a strong showing Saturday against the Colts.”

  41. 41 Greg Richards said at 11:09 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    The Colts’ game may end up being fool’s gold. Just about all their CBs are hurt. If Agholor/Randle/Huff don’t dominate vs. the UDFAs they trout out, it’s a very bad sign. And if they excel, it doesn’t mean much.

  42. 42 A_T_G said at 11:13 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Before leaving town, perhaps we can swap Rice and Shepherd for a young LB.

  43. 43 Greg Richards said at 11:23 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    I think most of the injuries are relatively short-term.

  44. 44 D3FB said at 12:14 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Their bubble LBs aren’t really very good. Their top four of Sio Moore, Dqwell Jackson, Nate Irving, and Antonio Morrison is solid but they don’t really have anything of interest beyond those four.

  45. 45 anon said at 11:24 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    i just want them to catch the ball

  46. 46 A_T_G said at 11:13 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    Hopefully he doesn’t mean on the sideline, watching the action.

  47. 47 Insomniac said at 11:19 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    If he doesn’t stand out against the Colts 4th stringers then I’m going to lose all hope.

  48. 48 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:04 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Get thru the game healthy. I dont even care to judge his performances until we get to regular season games…. I just don’t want to see him drop any catchable balls. That’s all I really care about. I don’t need him to go out there and make a bunch of plays, but I do need him to secure catchable balls when they come his way. If he doesn’t have any blatant drops, I’ll be happy

  49. 49 Julescat said at 11:37 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    are the 49ers officially a 4 alarm dumpster fire at this point?

  50. 50 Tumtum said at 11:40 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    It’s preseason no one can be considered that. Is it bad that I kinda hope they are?

  51. 51 Julescat said at 11:47 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    multi millionaire backup QB (who can’t seem to get on the field healthy) refuses to stand for the national anthem because America is “racist”.

    now is it officially a 4 alarmer?

  52. 52 anon said at 11:54 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    think he has a right to express how he feels. but remembering how Kelly feels about that kind of stuff, cant see CK being around that much longer.

  53. 53 Greg Richards said at 11:59 AM on August 27th, 2016:

    He’s going to get cut, he would have got cut regardless, but the storyline will be that he got cut for “making a stand”.

  54. 54 GermanEagle said at 12:07 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think he will get cut. The 49ers press statement doesn’t seem to indicate otherwise.

  55. 55 anon said at 12:08 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    what else can you sat as a team based in the bay area?

  56. 56 Greg Richards said at 12:10 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think he would get cut for this. Gabbert is likely to start though and Kaepernick and the 49ers’ FO do not have a good relationship. If they can find a qualified backup after other teams make cuts, I think there’s a strong chance he’s released. For football reasons.

  57. 57 GermanEagle said at 12:12 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Still doubt they will just outright cut him. But then you never know when Chip is your head coach. We got nothing for DeSean and basically also nothing for Shady. Still makes my blood boil.

    F U Chip!

  58. 58 Greg Richards said at 12:19 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    From what I’ve read, Baalke has control of the 53-man roster, not Chip.

  59. 59 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:55 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    They would have to be certifiably insane to give chip any control over personnel,, especially since chips stock was in the toilet when the Niners hired him so I doubt he had any leverage that he could use to get control

  60. 60 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:42 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I doubt chip even has the power to cut him

  61. 61 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:42 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Chip flat out said they have never had a convo about cutting him

  62. 62 Greg Richards said at 12:58 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Chip lies. All coaches lie really.

  63. 63 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:59 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    More likely he is playing the semantics game, they have discussed trading him but not cutting him..
    No need to cut him. Even while his stock is in the toilet they can probably at least get a conditipnal pick in return, like when we traded garbage sanchez

  64. 64 Insomniac said at 12:06 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Being forced to sign Chip Kelly after they couldn’t sign anyone else wasn’t ringing it already?

  65. 65 Gian GEAGLE said at 12:40 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I couldn’t stop laughing watching that game, first Kapernick makes a political statement by sitting during the national anthem because “he won’t salute a flag of a country that oppresses black people”, then he proceeded to Embarress himself on the field
    Funny how our media spent 3 years talking about how KAp is the perfect QB for Chip Kelly, yet chip wants nothing to do with KAp.
    That team is pathetic, I’ll be surprised if they win 4 games

  66. 66 Dragon_Eagle said at 1:33 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I miss Maclin.

  67. 67 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:36 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    So does Doug Pederson…. No fear, our offense won’t be as bad as The media seems to think as long as our OL remains intact

  68. 68 BobSmith77 said at 4:15 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    This offense is going to stink. If Bradford goes down, I’d argue the worst in the league with maybe the exception of the Browns.

  69. 69 anon said at 4:47 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    No way we have chase daniels. Sanchez might be available soon.

  70. 70 Gian GEAGLE said at 1:35 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I think the Eagles will make two more trades before The start of the season,, trading Taylor Hart, and one of our kickers
    ITs looking Like Lane may be on the field week 1. The test results ARENT in yet, and he only has like 14 days for the test results to come in, appeal the suspension, and get a ruling on the appeal in time to suspend him for week 1. Tho Lane said he would do what the eagles think is best in terms of appealing it or not. But I would hate to not appeal it, never know they may cut his suspension by a couple games
    What happens if Lane suffers a significant injury tonight? Does his suspension not go into effect until he gets healthy? Wouldnt that make it a little too risky to play him with the backups tonight? Talk about a risk to make a Horribke situation even worse, it would be horrible if he has a season ending injury so he can’t serve his 10 game suspension TIL next season, I hope the Eagles have considerd this, I wouldn’t be willing to take that risk and put him on the field tonight,,. For who? For what?

  71. 71 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:01 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    My Final 53 man roster:
    Offense 25 Roster spots
    3 QBs
    4 RB
    Ryan Mathews
    4 TE
    5 WR
    Jordan Mathews
    9 OL
    gardner (or Tobin)
    Defense 25 roster spots
    4 DT
    MIKE Martin
    Beau Allen (or Vaeao)
    5 DE
    6 Linebackers
    Bryan Braman
    4 Safeties
    6 CB
    Ron Brooks
    3 Specialists
    Donnie Longball
    yes I know Bryan Braman ISNT a Linebacker, but since we have 5 Linebackers with NFL experience, the 6th LB won’t ever get on the field, and he would essentially just be a special teams player, so we might as well use his spot to keep Braman our beat ST player
    Biggest roster spots in question:
    #4 Defensive Tackle spot which comes down to Beau vs Hart vs Vaeao. Vaeao is the only one that we could put on practice squad, but he could get poached. I assume they are trying to trade Hart, if not both Hart and Beau
    #9 OL
    I went with Gardner since he took the pay cut, but Tobin could win this spot since he is Jason Peters backüp at LT
    Sturgis vs Parkey?? No idea who wins

  72. 72 GermanEagle said at 2:06 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Would be a travesty if the guy with arguably the best hands on the team (Turner) won’t make the team and an ex Giants with a huge lack of effort makes it instead.

  73. 73 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:08 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    i have him on the Practice squad. Think PT is This years Mostert or Rasheed Baily. I hate Huff so im rooting for PT to Take his spot, but I don’t think the Eagles wil ageee

  74. 74 GermanEagle said at 2:11 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    He will definitely be claimed by another team I’m afraid. Good WRs are a rarity in the NFL, right Howie?! 😉

  75. 75 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    How many of our camp MVPs who we lost by not putting on the roster have gone on to make us regret it? Jordan Poyer maybe? Where’s Mostert? jose? Rasheed Baily?
    I’d love to get rid of huff and keep PT, but I suspect that PT ISNT a good enough ST player to make it over Huff. He won’t start for us, so he would have a better shot to make the team on Special Teams, which he hasn’t done so I think they give the spot to Huff. Sure wouldn’t mind being wrong, few fans would celebrate getting rid of huff more than me so I hope your right

  76. 76 Allen3000 said at 2:39 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I thought we gave up on Brandon Gibson too soon. He lacked ideal size and long speed, but was a great route runner with reliable hands. He flourished in St. Louis and put together a pretty decent career for himself.

    It would be tough for me too see a guy like Huff or Randle make the team over Turner when Turner has proven to be so much more productive and has much better hands. I do understand the rational behind it, but it still would be tough to digest.

  77. 77 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:42 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Russell Shepard is also doing ok for himself since leaving philly, but nothing too major

  78. 78 anon said at 2:16 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    ESPN Cowboys reporter Todd Archer said the “sense is” suspended DE Randy Gregory will not play in 2016.

  79. 79 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Did he even go to rehab?

  80. 80 Allen3000 said at 2:44 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Giving up on Rowe (trading him for anything less than a 3rd/4th to me) this early is a terrible look for our coaching staff, but more specifically our front office and scouts. How many guys can we continue to whiff on? Yes, plenty of players drafted in the top rounds don’t pan out, but we are striking out at a pretty high rate and it’s severely impeding our ability to compete and build towards the future.

  81. 81 Greg Richards said at 2:49 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    The excuse there is that the decision-makers and the scheme have changed.

  82. 82 Allen3000 said at 2:52 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    That’s a bs excuse. He was drafted high not only because he was a great DB, but also because of his versatility. That was the selling point. Now, we have no use for him because he can’t adjust to a new scheme? I’m not buying it.

  83. 83 Greg Richards said at 2:56 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    The people in charge now didn’t make the decision to draft him high. I don’t think he gets traded anyway.

  84. 84 Allen3000 said at 3:01 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I don’t think he gets traded either, but it will piss me off if he doesn’t see much of the field this year. He’s too talented to just treat as if he’s disposable. And to me, scheme is a poor excuse in the case of Rowe.

  85. 85 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:13 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I wouldn’t worry. Don’t see why they would even consider trading one of our two best young corners. People say schwartz DOESNT like him, but the impression I got was schwartz just thinks he is too young right now. On numerous occasions schwartz said something like “we gotta remember he is a young kid who only has like a half a season of Experience under his belt”.. I have heard schwartz make excuses for him on a couple of occassions, and he doesnt seem like the type to sugar coat and BS
    We are going to keep 5 or 6 corners, and anyone who thinks Rowe ISNT one of our 5 or 6 most Talented corners needs a drug test… It’s not like Rowe is taking a roster spot away from all these other talented young corners. Schwartz DOESNT seem to be a big fan of Rice or JaCorey Sheppard…
    Just because schwartz thinks Leodis, Nolan, and Brooks are more ready to play, doesn’t automatcally mean he thinks rowe ISNT even worth continuing to develope..
    I don’t see why we would trade Rowe, when we have room to keep all the corners worth anything:
    1) Leodia
    2) Nolan
    3) Brooks
    4) Mills
    5) Rowe
    6) aaron Grymes..
    What other corner do we have to make room for by accepting some lowball offer for Rowe? If schwartz really didn’t value Rowe, I think we would have seen the Eagles try him at Safety before they ever considered moving on from him…. It would be shocking to see them cut Rowe, and we could wait til after the season to trade him for a draft pick. I don’t think anyone will offer anything so enticing that we should trade him now.. But we’ll see….

  86. 86 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:05 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Think you are Gving the Elliot Shorr parks rumors a little too much credit

  87. 87 Greg Richards said at 3:10 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I can assure you I’m not because I have no clue what ESP rumors you refer to. IMO, ESP is a guy who either to put it nicely has very little understanding of the game of football or a guy who intentionally puts out ridiculous “hot takes” to garner attention to himself.

  88. 88 The original AG said at 3:27 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I can’t stand ESP.

  89. 89 Greg Richards said at 2:46 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Romo fractured a vertebrae in his back. Out 6-10 weeks. Now we’ll see if Dak Prescott’s good pre-season play means anything.

  90. 90 Allen3000 said at 2:56 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Wow. I really think it’s time for Dallas to just move on. Dude is made of glass or just really, really unlucky.

    Hopefully Dak Prescott is not as good as advertised.

  91. 91 Greg Richards said at 2:57 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Tony Romo needs to move on if he doesn’t want to be in constant pain the rest of his life.

  92. 92 The original AG said at 3:18 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Probably too late for that.

  93. 93 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:04 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    LOL come on man…. I didn’t want him getting hurt THIS SOON!
    This is why im convinced his career is OVER! He will never be able to withstand NFL hits ever again. He is done. But I don’t want the Cowboys to realize this too soon…we need him to stay healthy enough to continue to fool them into counting on him. The OL can’t even protect him, because you don’t have to sack him, hitting him after he throws is enough to injure him…. That dude is done, lol hope they really believe in the Dak Hype
    Media is a friggin joke for ever claiming that dallas is the best team in the division… Giants and Cowboys will compete for 3rd and 4th place while the Eagles and washington decide who wins this division..

  94. 94 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:02 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Well, that didn’t take long. Romo out 6-10 weeks with broken bone in back.

  95. 95 GermanEagle said at 3:09 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Dear football God

    Please let Dak Prescott fall flat on his face.


  96. 96 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:15 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    He is the next Tom Brady

  97. 97 GermanEagle said at 3:16 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    All joking aside if he is I will move to Africa.

  98. 98 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I hear Johannesburg is lovely this time of year 🙂

  99. 99 GermanEagle said at 3:18 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Lovely dangerous yes. 🙂

  100. 100 Rambler said at 3:36 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    But a really underrated wine region, if you like that sort of thing.

  101. 101 GermanEagle said at 3:37 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I do.

  102. 102 Will Mahoney said at 4:55 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I hear Mogadishu is lit

  103. 103 BobSmith77 said at 3:47 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Take him in a heartbeat over Daniel. Eagles also have a brittle and injury-prone QB who has little mobility playing behind a make shift line.

    My o/u on Bradford missing his first start is 6 games.

  104. 104 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:50 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Take him over Chase daniel? Wow what a compliment. I guess I should really be scared… “lions and Tigers and Dak Prescott, Oh My”

  105. 105 GermanEagle said at 3:37 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    So with that back being broken there’s no frigging excuse in this world to not make a serious run to win this pathetic division of football.

    And enough with that lowering your expectations crap for the Eagles season. As Bob Brookover said we should be expecting at least 9 wins from this team this year. This is what Howie should also be judged on.

    Can’t wait for 9/11!

    Bought my tix yesterday.

  106. 106 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:42 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    There was never an excuse, Dallas was Never going to win this division, it was always going to come down to Eagles and Washington fighting over first place in DECEMBER. This division was always wide open, and we always had as good of chance as anyone to win this weak division. No reason to concede this division to such flawed rivals. I’ll always like our chances when we have the best defense in the division…
    The media is mistaken

  107. 107 P_P_K said at 5:28 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Sweeping Dallas makes 10-6 possible, good enough to win the Division. 9-7 might even win it.

  108. 108 anon said at 6:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    if we lose a game to dak prescott i’m going to flip.

  109. 109 P_P_K said at 6:26 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    If we lose to Dak, the suicide hotlines in Philly are going to blow up.

  110. 110 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:41 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    This is so funny. Every single year The sucker media eats up all the Dallas Hype, taking the bait Hook, line and Sinker. This is hysterical, the medias top team in the NFC East Couldnt last 3 plays without getting hurt. Reports claim “best case scenario he will be back by mid season”…. LOL all the Dak Prescott hype this preseason, now those dumb bastards have to put their money where their mouth is..
    So lets take inventory:
    rookie QB
    Great Run blocking OL, but not great in pass protection.
    Elite WR (Dez), servicable Cole Beasley, and nothing special behind them
    The Worst group of TE in the division. Witten is Old, and Esobar never developed into anything special
    Zeke is the best RB in our division.
    Thornton and Crawford give them strong DT’s
    Worst group of edge rushers in the NFL (a premier position)
    Sean Lee and a bunch of scabs at LB
    Average CB’s
    Byron Jones and church may be the top safeties in our division behind us

    This is the Big Bad Dallas Roster that is supposed to win our division wifh Romo healthy? Don’t make me laugh! Sean Lee and Scandrick are literally the only two defenders who would start on our defense
    To suggest that this Swiss cheese flawed roster full of glaring holes that can be exploited at important positions being better than our roster is laughable.. But because they have a few big name players, media Ignores all their holes… Media has them winning the division, I have dallas and the Giants competing for 3rd place and that was,before they lost Romo for 8-10 games..
    No idea why anyone thinks their roster was anything special to begin with? Does defense no longer matter?
    Dear Delusional dallas fans….. Enjoy another miserable season, but at least you get a high draft pick lol

  111. 111 bushisamoron said at 3:48 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Means makes the team. He might actually play DT on third down situations like Curry. O line is (still) the biggest worry. Lane really needed to be smarter than to let all of teammates down like he did.

  112. 112 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:13 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Taking supplements today is like playing Russian Roulette.
    If its true that at he tested positive for something that is not supposed to be in his supplement than fans need to lay off crucifying him. Im more mad at how screwed up the supplement industry is… I doubt he would intentionally take something banned, when he just got paid, has nothing to gain, and everything to lose
    It’s not like he ever got caught taking steroids. His first suspension was Adderall, if you can consider that a PED it’s because it allegedly helps your focus. lane has NO HISTORY Taking anything that increases his muscle and power..and typically the motivation for taking steroids is to make more money. Well he just signed a new deal so he is years away having to worry about performing to make more money, very little to gain, and a brand new contract to lose…. So No, I don’t believe he tried to get away with taking steroids… I could believe that a year before he signed a new deal, or two or three years from now, but the timing of it says he had very little to gain by purposely risking a 10 game suspension and a sweet contract
    if he checked all the ingrediamts and there was something in the pill that wasn’t supposed to be in there then we can kill Lane for it, because it literally could happen to any player since they all take supplements.
    This man has NEVER tested positive for taking anything that artificially boosts his power and makes him bigger, his only failed test was Adderall which helps his focus and does NOT make you Stronger… Yet all of the sudden, now that he is in his 4th year, just signed a contract securing his families financial future, he decides now that he isn’t strong enough so he has to try and cheat to get stronger and RISK EVERYTHING? Come on, that’s ridiculous

  113. 113 The original AG said at 4:29 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    The way it’s regulated we have to expect issues like this. A convoluted process will produce convoluted results.

  114. 114 anon said at 4:44 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Lane has a legit gripe, think that’s why this process is going so slow. We need ACV to discuss the legal ramifications.

  115. 115 Bob Brewer said at 4:48 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I ate that meat and got salmonella. It’s not the meat company’s fault should have known what I was meat.

  116. 116 BobSmith77 said at 3:55 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    With Romo potentially done, the Skins become the clear favorites in the division.

    I like Cousins and what he does but the grumbling about that team not being do anything of merit holds water too.

    Giants spent a lot of money in FA but I still like the Skins to be a rare NFC East division repeat at 9-7 edging out Giants (8-8) and Boys (7-9).

  117. 117 GermanEagle said at 4:22 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    How would the Skins be repeating champs when Eagles finish at 11-5!?

  118. 118 Bert's Bells said at 4:37 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    You misspelled “16-0.”

  119. 119 GermanEagle said at 4:44 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Don’t think so. I’m an accountant.

  120. 120 anon said at 4:11 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Damn Jerry Jones mismanaged the hell out of this QB situation huh? Romo got a ton of upfront money he might as well call it a day.

  121. 121 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:15 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    The skins better hope the MRI on Kerrigans groin comes back ok or they will have big problems at pass rusher
    If Romo ever tries to play again, he is out of his mind. His career is Over whether he wants to admit it or not
    They are hoping he gets healthy for the Oct 30 Eagles game after their bye week.

  122. 122 GermanEagle said at 4:20 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Not sure if facing Cox & Co. would be a good back therapy…!

  123. 123 Will Mahoney said at 4:51 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    He will be ok. He’s getting an adamantium skeleton

  124. 124 P_P_K said at 5:25 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    It’s hard to imagine any medical professional advising a 36 year-old with numerous severe back injuries to play professional football.

  125. 125 Sean Stott said at 4:39 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I always hated him, but now I despise him. Fuck Kaepernick. What a punk ass little bitch. Can’t stand the racist BLM bullshit.

  126. 126 Will Mahoney said at 4:50 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    It’s not even a big deal. You have a right to your beliefs just like he has a right to his.

    Why did you edit your post?

  127. 127 Sean Stott said at 4:50 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Wanted to keep it to one topic. And it is a big deal, to not stand for the national anthem. GTFO of the country then.

  128. 128 Will Mahoney said at 4:53 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Freedom of expression is fundamentally American.

    He isn’t the first or last to not stand during the anthem.

  129. 129 Sean Stott said at 4:57 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    He doesn’t even have a coherent reason to do it. He says it’s for the oppression of black people and people of color. Yet black people are killed over 90% of the time by other blacks. And blacks are over 7 times more likely to kill than whites. So what oppression is he talking about, exactly?

  130. 130 Will Mahoney said at 5:01 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Lol people always throw out Black on black numbers? White on white crime is like 84%. People are just bad regardless of pigmentation.

    Not even important. People have a right to stand up for what they believe… Not just what you or I believe.

  131. 131 Sean Stott said at 5:05 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Please don’t paint me as the alt-right guy, because I’m not, but the facts don’t really lie

    “In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.”

    It’s just a completely bullshit argument that needs to be challenged more often.

  132. 132 BlindChow said at 5:09 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    The issue is more government-sanctioned violence against non-violent minorities, not violence perpetrated by private citizens against each other (which, presumably, the government would not endorse regardless of race).

  133. 133 Sean Stott said at 5:10 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    And again, cops are more likely to shoot white people than blacks, even though blacks disproportionately commit more violent crime.

    “More whites and Hispanics die from police homicides than blacks. According to Mac Donald, 12 percent of white and Hispanic homicide deaths were due to police officers, while only four percent of black homicide deaths were the result of police officers.”

  134. 134 Cafone said at 12:53 AM on August 29th, 2016:

    What’s your name on Stormfront?

  135. 135 GermanEagle said at 5:07 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    People are just bad regardless of pigmentation.

    You just won the internet today. Thank you, sir!

  136. 136 GermanEagle said at 5:05 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    That’s a bit even more racist don’t you think?!

  137. 137 Sean Stott said at 5:07 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    They’re statistics available from the FBI. I’m not racist, and honestly it’s kind of lame to just throw around that label. When you decide to sit down for the anthem, at least do it for a good reason. Kaepernick’s reason is garbage and doesn’t deserve a shred of respect.

  138. 138 anon said at 5:21 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    We should probably just keep it focused on football. But just because you criticize something doesn’t mean you don’t love it (e.g., everyone on this board talking about the eagles).

  139. 139 P_P_K said at 5:44 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I’m reluctant to judge anyone without knowing the full extent of their thinking, but I do share a similar line of thought as yours. I never like it when athletes use the field as a platform to express their religious beliefs (my one and only displeasure with Reggie White), and I feel the same way about politics and other personal passions. There are plenty of avenues for a wealthy public figure to communicate with the general public, and plenty of ways to use wealth and access to better the lives of others. I think what Kaepernick did was more symbolic than significant. If I find out the guy has a history of financial support of peace and justice organizations, I might well reconsider.

  140. 140 Nailed It! said at 5:50 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    So we want athletes to be transparent about basically everything but when he opens his mouth in a form of protest that is where you draw the line? Get out of here, your for it until someone does something you disagree with. That’s not freedom, that’s not liberty that is selfishness.

  141. 141 P_P_K said at 5:58 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Maybe I didn’t make myself clear.

    I’m saying an athlete is welcome to his/her opinions and should express them. In fact, their wealth and public position puts them in an enviable position because they can make a difference in people’s lives. I’m not talking about any specific issues at all, just the milieu for advocacy. My personal opinion is the time and place for professional athletes to do this is before or after the proverbial whistle begins and ends the event.

    Or, maybe you and I just disagree. In which case, no hard feelings.

  142. 142 Nailed It! said at 6:01 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Sorry, I definitely went over the top in my response. No hard feelings at all.

  143. 143 P_P_K said at 6:11 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    You, sir, are a solid man. Thanks.

  144. 144 anon said at 6:12 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Look at all the attention the issue is getting can’t buy that type of publicity. Should a christian not wear a cross?

  145. 145 P_P_K said at 6:23 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I see what you mean about publicity. Unfortunately, though, I think too much of the ensuing discussion is about Kap and not about the issues. Your point about the cross is a good one. There’s a line and, honestly, I’m not sure where to draw it or, more honestly, if I’m even remotely wise enough to draw it.

  146. 146 anon said at 6:26 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    It’s a country of individuals – everyone has the right to be and express themselves and their viewpoints (subject to limitations). If only everyone could be as civil as we are on this board!

  147. 147 P_P_K said at 6:34 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    It is, indeed, a pleasure to discuss and, even more, sometimes vigorously disagree with other mature individuals. If only the body politic was more like Iggles Blitz.

  148. 148 GermanEagle said at 5:04 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    That’s a bit racist don’t you think?!

  149. 149 P_P_K said at 5:23 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    One of the times I feel the most patriotic is when the Anthem is played at the beginning of a sporting event. In spite of the shortcomings our country may have, we also have the freedom, prosperity, and leisure to gather without government interference for such events. It’s an exercise of many of the liberties provided by the Bill of Rights. I’m glad to live in a country that is so relatively free from oppression that I can frequently take these rights for granted.

  150. 150 anon said at 6:16 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    I think that’s the perfect time to remember that not everyone has the same interaction with this country.

  151. 151 P_P_K said at 6:20 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Excellent point. Thanks.

  152. 152 Nailed It! said at 5:29 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Oh calm down, if your whole patriotic nationalism comes from singing the national anthem at a sporting event then you have some growing up to do. He has a right to express himself as much as anyone.

  153. 153 Sean Stott said at 5:39 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    Yea, if you want to protest the anthem to bring up an issue, that means that we get to discuss the issue you’re bringing up. In this case, it’s an incoherent, immature argument that reveals how dumb he is.

  154. 154 Nailed It! said at 5:47 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    He was protesting the mistreatment of African American men and women in this country currently. How can you say that this is immature or incoherent? Are you claiming they are not mistreated? Has the boot of the black man been holding you back? Or are you just immature because he did something you don’t like?

  155. 155 Julescat said at 6:54 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    maybe one day a black man can become president

    oh wait

  156. 156 Julescat said at 6:55 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    as does that poster

  157. 157 anon said at 6:17 PM on August 27th, 2016:

    So excited for this third pre-season game

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