Updating the LB Situation

Posted: August 20th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 113 Comments »

Joe Walker’s ACL injury is a tough blow for the Eagles. He played well in enough in Training Camp and the preseason games that I think the team would have been comfortable with him as the backup MLB. Now he’s gone and Don Cherry moves into that spot, although on a very temporary basis.

Cherry has had some good moments in the preseason, but he’s not played to the level where you would want him on the field in a real game. I don’t know if he has that level of talent in him. The Eagles need to bring in someone from the outside, be it Stephen Tulloch, some other veteran or even another young player. They need someone with starting potential.

Najee Goode has been terrific this summer and is clearly the #4 LB. He has played WLB and SAM. He’s been a starter in place of Mychal Kendricks and the defense hasn’t missed a beat.

Deontae Skinner has been the backup at WLB. He lacks ideal speed, but is a powerful, physical player. He’s grown on me as I’ve watched the preseason games. I think the Eagles could keep him on the roster and be okay. Obviously the team will be looking for possible upgrades as cuts start to happen. Let’s remember, we’re talking about someone who would primarily play on STs if he was even active on gamedays.

Quentin Gause has played pretty well this summer, but not to the level where he’s seriously pushing for a roster spot. He is more likely to be competing for a practice squad job.

Myke Tavarres has been disappointing. There is no question about his physical potential. But he’s making a huge jump from a tiny school to the NFL and that seems to be slowing him down. I think his talent is worth developing so I would pencil him in for the practice squad.

If you want to sum it up, the starters are good. The primary backup on the outside is good. The big hole is the backup at MLB.

Normally you can take a chance with a backup spot, but Jordan Hicks has durability issues. That changes things and makes the backup MLB spot more important. The obvious move is to go sign Tulloch. He knows the scheme and he and Jim Schwartz are very close. The problem is that Tulloch wants to start. I don’t know if he’s ready to sign with a team where he wouldn’t even be competing for the starting job.

I would have no problem with Schwartz telling Tulloch that he’ll rotate him in every third series and on some sub-packages. Hicks needs to be on the field, but resting him here and there might also be a good idea. Limit the wear and tear his body takes.

I think the defensive staff has done a great job this spring and summer with developing depth. That’s always a huge concern when you go from the 3-4 to the 4-3. The backup DL have played lights out. There won’t be enough jobs to go around for them. Goode is playing better than I’ve ever seen. Walker looked like a good young LB before getting hurt. There are several young DBs who have taken a step forward.

The challenge from this point on will be making changes on the fly, as injuries occur. We’ll see how the coaches and the personnel staff work together to solve the problems that come up. The first one is finding a backup MLB.

*****

Interesting.

I have to also think the presence of Tim Hauck helps. He was an undersized SS that stayed in the NFL by being a big hitter and reliable tackler. He understands the importance of good tackling. He also understands that current players who are bigger and stronger than him should have no excuse for not tackling well. Tackling is about two things: effort and technique.

It is also possible that Jaylen Watkins and Ed Reynolds knew their careers were not going to last much longer if they continued to be liabilities when it came to tackling.

Whatever the reason(s), it worked.

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113 Comments on “Updating the LB Situation”

  1. 1 Updating the LB Situation - said at 1:59 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Joe Walker’s ACL injury is a tough blow for the Eagles. He played well in enough in Training […]

  2. 2 ICDogg said at 2:00 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    The name “Don Cherry” conjures up visions of an old hockey commentator who wears really unfortunate suits.

  3. 3 Ray888 said at 2:41 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    The word is “colorful” or “extravagant” not “unfortunate”.

  4. 4 ICDogg said at 7:37 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Check out Don Cherry’s Jacket (@DonCherryJacket): https://twitter.com/DonCherryJacket?s=09

  5. 5 Media Mike said at 5:41 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    That guy is quite entertaining.

  6. 6 wee2424 said at 5:53 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I think Pornstar.

  7. 7 Forthebirds said at 10:35 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Or Vince Papale wearing those hideous suits that every TV sports caster used to wear back in the day, but Cherry was in a league of his own.

  8. 8 Stephen E. said at 1:37 PM on August 22nd, 2016:

    I thought of retired safety Deron Cherry, but that’s because I still play Tecmo Super Bowl.

  9. 9 RC5000 said at 2:12 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Whoa…hmmm.

    Mike Rodak
    ESPN Staff Writer

    As a second-year player, Karlos Williams will be subject to waivers. He will need to serve his 4-game suspension if claimed. He may also serve it as a free agent if he remains unsigned

  10. 10 RC5000 said at 2:31 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    What is wrong with him? He was a stud last year . Avg 5.6 ypc, 7 tds.

    Mike Rodak
    ESPN Staff Writer

    Bills RB Karlos Williams weighed as much as 261 pounds this offseason, source tells ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. He is listed at 230 lbs.

  11. 11 Greg Richards said at 2:34 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Came to camp 30 pounds overweight. Apparently his wife was pregnant and he “sympathy ate” with here. Also suspended 4-games for violating the NFL’s PED policy(or personal conduct, not really sure which policy). Buffalo has good depth at RB so basically didn’t think he was worth the hassle.

  12. 12 RC5000 said at 2:40 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    He needs to be in perfect shape but he is big but compact. He’d be great addition since we traded picks for Wentz. But if he’s going to have two red flags I don’t know.

  13. 13 Insomniac said at 2:55 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Somewhere out there in the world, Media Mike is just screaming at Howie to cut Barner and try to claim Williams.

  14. 14 Media Mike said at 5:41 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Duh; you don’t need to add Williams to cut Barner.

    But if that helps……………….

  15. 15 Rellihcs said at 5:56 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    You have made me into such a Barner fan because of the underdog effect. Every play he makes is a double positive – additional to the yards, he get’s me a “ha – that goes against MM’s unconditional hate”.

  16. 16 Media Mike said at 6:31 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    You must not like winning.

  17. 17 D3FB said at 3:00 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Congrats to Eddie Lacy for becoming a nutritionist to other RBs.

  18. 18 anon said at 5:39 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    he’s fat, but we can get him skinny.

  19. 19 Greg Richards said at 2:13 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Bears have a lot of depth at ILB and Joe Douglas scouted some of their bubble players. I’d keep an eye on Lamin Barrow, John Timu, Jonathan Anderson, and Christian Jones(played ILB in 3-4 last year, moved to OLB this year, probably better fit as 4-3 OLB). Arthurn Brown from the Ravens is also a waiver/trade possibility.

  20. 20 D3FB said at 2:52 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Timu and Jared Norris would probably be my top two targets.

  21. 21 RC5000 said at 3:30 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Eagles also might have been very high on Kwiatkoski. They had lots of contact with him.

  22. 22 Greg Richards said at 3:33 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Yes, but as a 4th round pick, I highly doubt Chicago would cut or trade him.

  23. 23 RC5000 said at 3:54 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I think Timu is ahead of Kwiatkoski and less likely to be traded.

  24. 24 Greg Richards said at 3:57 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Q is do they keep 4 or 5 ILBs. Think guys most likely to be cut are Anderson and Jones but possibility that Timu and/or Barrow are available. Anderson started over Timu(think they rested their starters) in their 2nd preseason game but that might just be for evaluation purposes.

  25. 25 RC5000 said at 4:06 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Wow Kwiatkowski hasn’t played in game yet. Maybe we won’t even want him.

    Rookie Nick Kwiatkoski hasn’t played, so it’s hard to gauge what value he adds to the team, perhaps he ends up on IR.

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/8/19/12553722/chicago-bears-53-man-roster-prediction-nfl-preseason

  26. 26 D3FB said at 2:52 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Here’s some options for LB Depth:

    https://eaglesrewind.com/2016/08/12/looking-for-a-linebacker/

  27. 27 Rellihcs said at 5:54 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Nice work. Thanks.

  28. 28 A_T_G said at 6:13 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I was hoping you would post this link again. Good stuff.

  29. 29 Tumtum said at 11:56 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Would be real nice if we could snag up a good player from the Steelers scrap pile. Little bit of redemption.

  30. 30 Fufina said at 3:06 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I would pick up the phone and ask Demeco for 1 final ride. Is he going to be a liability in coverage if he is asked to start significant minutes? definitely. But he would be able to come in and give leadership and be a solid back up on 1st and 2nd down in base. Just make sure that you play with a different pairing in nickle situations.

  31. 31 Weapon Y said at 3:08 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Not the worst idea considering the slim pickings out there. One problem is he wouldn’t do anything for us on special teams. I always rooted for Cap’n Meco, so having him back would be nice.

  32. 32 Fufina said at 3:19 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    You do not need to have him dress on game day. Goode is going to be the 4th LB, Skinner can be the 5th/Special teamer. If we loose Hicks 1st quarter of a game you just have to nickle anywhere you can and probably slide Kendricks to LMB on run downs.

  33. 33 Rellihcs said at 5:54 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    But it seems to me that you want him for sentimental value and not for the benefit of the team. The only reason you resign him is if he’s the best football option for what we need at LB. He is not. Period.

  34. 34 Media Mike said at 5:45 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I appreciate the sentiment, but he can’t run anymore.

  35. 35 Tumtum said at 11:23 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Agreed. Love the guy but rewatch a 2nd half game last year. It was brutal.

  36. 36 wee2424 said at 3:11 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    As for Watkins and Reynolds, yes, practicing something will make you better as long as you want to be better.

    I get that you need to protect your players, but I think not practicing hitting can also get you injured. Anyone that has played the sport will tell you that you can hurt yourself if you do not tackle properly.

    I’m thrilled Pederson is bringing the hitting back. Overall it is beneficial for the players and this team.

  37. 37 Dragon_Eagle said at 3:23 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Yes. Plus I thought the defense, though giving up yardage on Thursday, was tackling as well as I’ve ever seen them.

  38. 38 Cafone said at 4:15 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I would find it hard to believe there won’t be anyone out there better than Joe Walker when teams make their final cuts. We need a back up. I don’t see any reason to make a trade or overpay for one now.

  39. 39 RC5000 said at 4:27 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    If we can move someone we expect to cut you get more time to prepare who you get. Once season starts there’s less time. You have to find a match though.

  40. 40 Cafone said at 4:33 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Yeah, but we’re talking about a backup, not a guy that has to play right away. I’d rather the Eagles wait and get the best option rather than make a move now for fear of losing 2 linebackers to injury in week 1.

  41. 41 RC5000 said at 4:40 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    They can still pick the best option up.

  42. 42 BlindChow said at 5:03 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    The “best option” LB might prefer to play for a different team. Trading for him would keep control in the hands of the team rather than the player.

  43. 43 RC5000 said at 5:11 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Plus they can still go after LB at cuts if they want so it’s essentially moot anyway.

  44. 44 RC5000 said at 5:12 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Also best could get claimed off waivers, we’re in middle of pack.

  45. 45 A_T_G said at 6:11 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Exactly. If we can deal…Shepherd, for example, who has value but isn’t going to make our 53 for a LB in a similar situation on another team, do it. We can still sift through the cuts later.

  46. 46 Greg Richards said at 6:35 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I really wish Chip had personnel control in SF. You just know we could peddle our trash/non-scheme fits to him.

  47. 47 PacificPurl said at 3:29 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Please. Too many people around the NFL like and admire Chip.
    People who make their living in football. They also recognize that he made mistakes but a smart person learns more from their mistakes than their successes. Surely you’ve heard that before? Or maybe not.

  48. 48 anon said at 5:37 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Since we’re taking cast offs Karlos Williams would be a great addition once he comes of suspension.

  49. 49 Tumtum said at 11:18 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Suspension doesn’t start until he is employed. He doesnt get paid until he is off suspension.

    Either way, not for me. Seems like a nice enough guy, but you are an NFL RB that had weight iasues in the FIRST real off season of your career. That alone is horrible, but he is gaining weight right now which is why he was cut.

  50. 50 A_T_G said at 6:24 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Well..
    https://twitter.com/ryanefox2/status/767091738720735233

  51. 51 A_T_G said at 6:30 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Wait for confirmation though. As Greg pointed out on Twitter, this is a Detroit news anchor. Legit, but not necessarily plugged in.

  52. 52 Greg Richards said at 6:31 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    I’m fine with Tulloch for close to the minimum. If you’re paying much more than that, I think it’d be better to wait to see who becomes available on waivers. Just sign some scrub LB to get us through the 4th preseason game. Since Tulloch would likely be eased in, they might want to add another body anyway.

    That said, I want to see this come from a legit Detroit area reporter like Dave Birkett or a guy like Schefter. Local TV station guys are iffy IMO.

  53. 53 Tumtum said at 11:12 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    I agree that Tulloch should get around the min. If he gets more does it harm the team at all though? At this point i have to think not.

  54. 54 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:21 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Thanks for posting. This just seemed inevitable.

  55. 55 Aaron said at 6:49 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    espn suggests eagles sign greg hardy

  56. 56 ICDogg said at 7:58 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Egad

  57. 57 Greg Richards said at 6:54 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Les Bowen
    ‏@LesBowen

    26s27 seconds ago

    I am told that the report out of Detroit about Stephen Tulloch being expected to sign a one-year deal with the #Eagles is not true.

    3 retweets

    0 likes

  58. 58 A_T_G said at 8:27 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Boy, you called that one.

  59. 59 RC5000 said at 7:30 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/767136114838691841

  60. 60 Fufina said at 7:34 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Its unfortunate that Eli is a true iron man and never misses games, otherwise it could be delicious. Although streaks always need to come to an end…

  61. 61 Media Mike said at 6:33 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Why resign ourselves to letting that continue? Where have a wonderful defensive line who should make it their goal to do something about that this year.

  62. 62 jaws80 said at 9:08 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    last year, if a player on the other team with the ball got loose running down the field, i would be expecting the first defensive player to miss and expect the 2nd or 3rd defensive player to maybe make the tackle. It was like someone had to miss first before another player was allowed to make the tackle.

    This year in only two preseason games, i am watching differently. I might see a player on offense get loose and think, “that sucks” but i am confident the first player on defense that gets to the ball carrier will make the tackle at least.

  63. 63 anon said at 9:53 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    So tyrod taylor is balling only cost like $1m.

  64. 64 Sean Stott said at 10:47 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    If only good luck was something you could just get whenever you needed it.

  65. 65 daveH said at 12:00 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Still love Shady. . He looked good as ever

  66. 66 BlindChow said at 2:22 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    What? He had 5 carries for 0 yards.

  67. 67 daveH said at 5:35 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    But He must have had 5 catches for 50

  68. 68 Rellihcs said at 1:44 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    He got a bog extension tho. So you are off by about 9.8 hundred percent…

  69. 69 Insomniac said at 1:51 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    He juked Janoris Jenkins so hard. Hope you’re taking notes Wentz.

  70. 70 RC5000 said at 10:08 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Adding to earlier conversation,

    https://twitter.com/viccarucci/status/767079169159270400

  71. 71 anon said at 10:57 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    He’s got an extra 4 weeks to get ready .

  72. 72 RC5000 said at 11:37 PM on August 20th, 2016:

    Or put on more weight.

  73. 73 Tumtum said at 10:57 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Sounds like this is most likely.

  74. 74 A_T_G said at 12:06 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Maclin ejected for fighting with Joyner. I did not see that coming.

  75. 75 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:35 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I was more surprised that they were ejected. Didn’t look like the most egregious act on either of their parts

  76. 76 Media Mike said at 6:43 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Please keep this in mind the next time some moronic New Yorker tries to tell you the Giants will be improved and win the division. They still can’t defend and they still can’t block.

    https://twitter.com/RossTuckerNFL/status/767107434091454465

  77. 77 Tumtum said at 10:52 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    I would imagine NYG is easily the worst NFCE team until Romo gets hurt.

  78. 78 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:34 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Yup….Serious holes in their OL, the slowest safety tandem in the NFL, average at best RB’s, weak Linebackers, but because they have a great WR and they went on a defensive dream team shopping spree they are being grossly over rated,,
    .
    Isn’t Spags still their DC? What has he done in years to still have a coordinator job?

  79. 79 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:31 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I hear you man. Im convinced the flashy NFC east teams(Gianfs and Cowboys) will be competing for 3rd and 4th place in the division. I don’t know why people over rate teams with Fatal flaws at some of the most important positions in the NFL:
    .
    dallas has one of the worst DE groups I ever seen. that’s a premier position, and you really don’t want to be weak in your pass rush when the rest of your defense is average at best. The Problem is compounded by their putrid defense forcing Romo into shootouts which exposes his frail body to injuries more than they would like. They are also very weak at positions like LB, TE, average CB’s
    .
    How the hell do the Gianfs spend 100mil plus, yet still have the audacity to trot newhouse and Jerry on the field again? It’s the worst starting Right side of an OL in the NFL, and the other side Isnt world beaters to begin with (Justin PUGH?) how do people rave about the Giants offense when they are average at best on their OL which is what makes an entire offense go. I’d rather have Babre and Brooks than Newhouse and Jerry, I don’t even know how jerry has Been starting the last couple of years, the Giants OL getting its ass handed to them by our DL is what’s primary responsible for our dominance over the Giants the last few years, and these fools did nothing to improve it, yet everyone Raves about how great the Giants will be because they have a great WR, whoopdidty Doo… Let’s see what good your WR is when Eli is running for his life trying to get away with intentional grounding penalties like the last 4 years. They have done absolutely NOTHING to think they can finally block our front 7, and they average RBs behind their weak OL. Healthy Ryan Mathews is way better than any RB they have behind that weak line
    ,
    And OL is NOT the ONLY thing keeping the GIants from being a great team. For example, In the Modern NFL with all these Monster pass catching TE’s, it’s probably a bad idea to have what might be the slowest starting Safety Tandem in the NFL which is even more of a problem when you are also weak at LB in a division where your Safeties and LB will have to matchup against weapons like Ertz, SPROLES, Jordan Reed, Trey Burton
    ..
    I’d rather be weak at WR, then to have GLARING HOLES at defensive end, Offensive Line, Safety, you think we have Linebacker problems? Our LBers are like the 85 bears compared to what Dallas and NY has at LB
    ,,
    I respect the Skins roster. For me Washington is what stands between us and the division title while the Cowboys and Giants dissapoint and compete for 3rd and 4th place, I don’t believe Tony Romo’s body can withstand hits any more. It’s not me disrespecting Romo, it’s reality, he is an old QB who’s body is the most beaten down in the NFL at this moment. I don’t even think you have to sack Romo, watch him go down from a hit that comes as he gets rid of the ball, I have no choice but to respect Romo at this point in his career, but I wouldn’t bet on his body ever getting thru a season healthy again.
    ..
    We might not be ready to compete with real contenders,but there are no real contenders in our division. I’ll be surprised if ANY team in our division has more than a two win lead over the rest of our division at any point in the season. This division will be decided in Late December, no one is running away with the NFCE East but it will be important for us to take advantage of the first half of our schedule and beat teams like the Browns, Bears, Lions.

  80. 80 Dragon_Eagle said at 8:24 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    PFT headline says it all, “Sanchez worries he ruined an opportunity by playing like crap”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

    And not the first time, me thinks.

  81. 81 Media Mike said at 8:26 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    What helps him is that some overrated hipster is who is supposed to be pushing him for the job. Denver should have manned up and given us 2 two 2s for Bradford.

  82. 82 Greg Richards said at 8:38 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    We want Sanchez to win the job, at least for the first 4 games. Pick is upgraded to a 6th rounder if he starts 4 or more games.

  83. 83 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:58 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Definition of insanity….

  84. 84 GermanEagle said at 9:30 AM on August 21st, 2016:

    Dallas sucks.

  85. 85 Media Mike said at 12:20 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    And New York swallows

  86. 86 P_P_K said at 1:14 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Coming to a theater near you:
    http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2016/8/20/12567090/eagles-fans-dallas-sucks-documentary-kickstarter-donate-support

  87. 87 Dragon_Eagle said at 5:05 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    This needs more up votes.

  88. 88 RC5000 said at 1:08 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    OT

    https://twitter.com/globejimmcbride/status/767393175958847488

    https://twitter.com/globejimmcbride/status/767391483574022144

  89. 89 A_T_G said at 1:13 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    It is a shame Dion didn’t take care of this in February.

  90. 90 RC5000 said at 1:10 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/EaglesIntel/status/767408015481774080

  91. 91 P_P_K said at 1:42 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I can be as cynical as anyone, screaming that some loser be cut from the roster. There are times, though, when I recognize that for many of these young men on the bubble, roster cuts are do-or-die.

    Imagine being in your early 20s, having your life revolve around football for virtually your whole life. After being drafted or finding a way into training camp, you’re on the precipice of becoming a professional athlete and making more money in a year or two than many guys make in a lifetime. You might get to become an NFL player. If you’re cut, though, you return home and become just another dude who goes to work in the morning.

  92. 92 Tumtum said at 1:58 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I imagine everyone on these boards would die to experience that.

  93. 93 ChoTime said at 2:44 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I wouldn’t. Losing by 1 point on a bad call is much worse than getting blown out!

  94. 94 D3FB said at 3:16 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    There is not enough money in the world to ever get me to run a conditioning test again.

  95. 95 P_P_K said at 5:57 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Are you challenging us to get a Kickstarter campaign going?

  96. 96 P_P_K said at 3:28 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I wonder how it would feel to come so close but not quite make it. Probably feel great to have accomplished so much, and certainly something to brag about for the rest of your days. Still, to have been in the locker room, on the field, and then have to head home, it’s gotta’ be very tough.

  97. 97 ChoTime said at 2:42 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Yeah, the difference between accumulating a nice nest egg in a couple years and being a bagger at a grocery store can be fine indeed. There must be a lot of luck for the people right on the bubble–the scheme, the coach, the camp competition, chance injuries are huge. The regrets for those who don’t make it must be crushing.

  98. 98 PacificPurl said at 3:18 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Not every training camp cut is off to the grocery store. Many actually learned something in university. They just go on with their lives.

  99. 99 ChoTime said at 3:25 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Sure, those guys are much better off.

  100. 100 Media Mike said at 4:56 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Just hope they didn’t go to Florida State, UNC, and/or Ohio State.

  101. 101 Rambler said at 6:15 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I gots a perfectly good edumacation at OSU. Just busting your chops, I know we are not the most beloved fan base.

  102. 102 Media Mike said at 6:25 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    GREAT school from an academic standpoint, but Urban Meyer is a known employer of the worst types of people and Jim Tressle wasn’t exactly holding guys to decent standards.

  103. 103 Rambler said at 6:33 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I was never a huge Tressel fan. Obviously I am biased, but I like to think Urban has cleaned up his ways with OSU. At least that is what I tell myself.

  104. 104 P_P_K said at 5:56 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    That’s an interesting point as I have wondered how many of the big school guys receive an education that provides them with a profession. I’ve also wondered if the contacts they make in school with coaches and alumni might also not pave the way.

  105. 105 Bert's Bells said at 3:39 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    It’s not NFL money, but there are other leagues that guys with “training camp talent” can play it.

  106. 106 P_P_K said at 5:54 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    True. It’s a way of keeping the dream alive. Our own Jeff Garcia played in the CFL for a couple years.

  107. 107 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:52 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    It’s nice having an entire stable of willing tacklers at CB to go along with a coaching staff which won’t tolerate soft DBs
    ..
    When a kid like Jaylen Watkins looks around the DB room and sees so many physical, willing tacklers in Leodis, Rowe, Nolan, Brooks, Mcleod, Grymes. Maragos, Jenkins, he quckily realizes that if he doesnt step up his tackling he will stick out like a marshmellow in a room fool of coal.
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    We may not have true shut down corners in coverage, but we should be more solid than most pundits gave us credit for going into this offseason. And if Schwartz can just fix the horrendous 3rd and long defense we saw the last 3 years, it will make a world of a difference in our quality of defense as a whole.. We used to be scared when it came to 3rd and 13 knowing at how often we would give up the first where we should have gotten off the field. Im expecting Shwartz to get this defense to make some big improvements in that regard. Apparently the DL is raving about the new “get off” technique Schwartz brought with him. Vinny Curry already fires off the snap like a missile, can’t wait to see how much Nastier he will be with schwartz improving their “get off Technique” firing out of their stance. On 3rd and Long, we should see a defense that gets pressure on the passer, forcing him to get rid of the ball too fast, allowing our tackling secondary to give up the catch but make the tackle short of the first down, Just improving that 3rd and long defense should make a world of a difference and give SPROLES a chance to return a punt down opponents throats. if we can also upgrade our sack and turnover numbers, while cutting down on the big plays we give up with Rodney Mcleod patrolling the back end, we should gel into one of the top 10 defenses this year as long as we aren’t decimated by injuries
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    Its so exciting to know that we are on the verge of bringing that nasty Philly style defense we are starving for

  108. 108 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:49 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    Seumalo is starting again against the Colts this week. He w

  109. 109 RC5000 said at 4:56 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    OT – star safety Max Redfield dismissed from Notre Dame football team. CB Devin Butler suspended indefinitely.

    Weekend that saw six Fighting Irish players arrested over two separate incidents.

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17360477/notre-dame-fighting-irish-dismisses-senior-max-redfield-suspends-devin-butler-following-arrests

  110. 110 Media Mike said at 4:56 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    What about the other 4 who also need to be kicked off of the team? 2 is nice, but 6 would be appropriate.

  111. 111 RC5000 said at 5:35 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    I guess because he was a senior hanging out with freshmen and sophomores plus he was sent home from Fiesta Bowl. Bad influence and all that stuff.

  112. 112 Media Mike said at 5:52 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    That’s logical, but it doesn’t adhere to the “I f-ing hate Notre Dame and hope they never win another game” logic.

  113. 113 RC5000 said at 5:13 PM on August 21st, 2016:

    “I’m not going to crown him the starter at this point,” Pederson said. “But at the same time, he hasn’t done anything to not be the starter.”

    It doesn’t hurt having Seumalo, who’s 6-foot-4, 303 pounds, in between center Jason Kelce and left tackle Jason Peters. Both are veterans, with Kelce making the Pro Bowl in 2014 and Peters making it eight times in his career. In that regard, getting the experience on the field is likely better for Seumalo than playing with backups on the second unit.

    “You’re learning from the best of the best at those positions, and they make it easy for me,” Seumalo said. “But I also know that at the same time, I have to play at their standards because they expect whoever is playing there to play as good as them.

    “But it’s pretty sweet. It’s awesome.”

    And this is where first-hand tutelage from Kelce and Peters can help Seumalo during the course of a game. Seumalo had a holding penalty in the first half that wiped out a 21-yard completion to Darren Sproles.

    Seumalo said he was shuffling his feet too much on the play, which affected his balance while blocking.

    “I just overshifted the guy,” Seumalo said. “That’s on me. You can’t do that … I’m kind of kicking my butt over that. It’s technique.”

    Kelce took him aside on the sideline after the offense came off the field and gave him some pointers.

    “Obviously, [Peters] and I have been playing for a long time, so I’ll try to help him out when I can,” Kelce said. “But he’s a smart kid. I think he’s really learning a lot. He’s getting down the little nuances, the techniques … You’re seeing it come. It’s just not happening quite like (Kelce snaps his fingers).”

    http://www.delawareonline.com/story/sports/nfl/eagles/2016/08/21/seumalo-quick-study-eagles-o-line/89080864/