Fixing the D

Posted: October 21st, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 147 Comments »

Jim Schwartz met the media on Thursday, offering his thoughts on the issues from the Skins game and a preview of the Vikings game. Schwartz did not sugarcoat things. He said there were breakdowns by the DL, LBs and secondary. He also said he didn’t do a good enough job as coach.

Schwartz’s PC

Schwartz didn’t question talent. Or effort. Or scheme.

He talked about mistakes. One of the biggest issues in the game was missed tackles. It doesn’t matter whether you run the 4-3 or 3-4, prefer speed or size, load the box or focus on coverage. When your guys miss tackles, the defense is going to struggle.

Schwartz was asked about how you fix that. He said the key was angles. For those who might wonder about that, he’s right. I used to love watching college football games with Chris Spielman doing the analysis because he would talk about tackling all game long. It drove him nuts to see talented young athletes who didn’t take good angles, didn’t wrap up or didn’t put their head on the correct side of the runner/receiver. He preached fundamentals. Spielman was a tackling machine in his playing days so he knows the absolute importance of what goes into making a tackle.

Defenders aren’t running to the ball. They are running to where the ball will be in 1 or 1.5 seconds. You have to take the correct angle of pursuit. Eagles players are not getting to the right spot. They are compounding that by not being in good tackling position. You see them reaching and grabbing. You would rather have them wrapping up, using the whole upper body to take down targets. It is harder to miss when you wrap and it is much harder for the offensive player to break the tackle.

It felt like the defense was trying to do too much the last couple of weeks. Defense requires the right combination of discipline and aggression. The aggression is there, but the discipline is not. Schwartz talked about the importance of the 2 penalties on Fletcher Cox the last 2 weeks. They cost the team 8 points (maybe more…never know if those teams miss the FG). The Eagles might have won the Lions game without that penalty.

Schwartz talked about he motto we’ve heard a lot in the NFL in recent years – Do Your Job! That’s defense at its best, 11 guys doing what they are supposed to. That helps them to function as one and makes life tough on offenses. Defenses get into trouble when players either freelance or try to do too much. Suddenly there is a gap open or a receiver isn’t covered. Just do your job. Don’t overcompensate for the guys around you.

Schwartz needs his guys to slow down and just play fast. Huh? Right now they are too fast. Don’t go 75 mph when the road calls for 55 mph. Be smart. Be disciplined. Do your job.


Don’t expect major personnel changes. Schwartz believes in his guys. That said…

Jimmy Bama points out that Barwin has played the most snaps of anyone on the DL, but is the least productive player among the starters. Schwartz talked about using him less to see if that would help him be more productive.

“Like a lot of other guys, he didn’t play his best game this last game,” said Schwartz. “He’s a guy who can probably benefit from lesser reps and maybe have more production with lesser reps. We’ve been talking about that. It’s just tough in game situations when you’re not doing well and everybody starts pressing, starts trying to do too much. Maybe that includes playing too many reps. Connor’s a good player when he’s fresh and going, and he’s no different than the rest of our guys that way, but we’re not disappointed in him.”

Jimmy astutely points out (someone make sure he knows that is a compliment) that Barwin used to rush and cover. Now he’s battling OL on every single snap. That can take a toll on you. Playing less might just help him to be more productive. It certainly can’t hurt to try. And more snaps for Vinny Curry is always a good thing.


A lot goes into this so be careful to make any sweeping conclusions.

The first half is going to be crucial on Sunday. You don’t want the Vikings playing with the lead if you can help it.


147 Comments on “Fixing the D”

  1. 1 Fixing the D - said at 12:39 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor Jim Schwartz met the media on Thursday, offering his thoughts on the issues from the Skins game and […]

  2. 2 Rambler said at 12:53 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    It is just painful to see any “highlights” with Kendricks in them anymore. He is a mess, and needs to be on the field even less. How did a promising young player get so bad? I turned the game off last weekend after he let Cousins get past him for that first down. Just beyond embarrassing.

  3. 3 Corry said at 7:47 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Believe it or not, that was Bradham.

  4. 4 SteveH said at 9:04 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Yeah, that play pissed me off so much.

  5. 5 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:50 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    He is questionable for Sunday. Never thought I would be so indifferent to whether Kendricks plays or not. It’s to the point that im curious to see what Najee Goode can do in his role…
    Fortunately this is looking like a pretty strong draft class for Linebackers. If we can add a young stud to the Bradham/Hicks tandem we could turn that position into a real strength

  6. 6 GermanEagle said at 1:04 PM on October 21st, 2016:


    You’ve just taken the word out of my mouth. I wouldn’t mind seeing Goode to get some snaps.

    But most importantly: HTF is Kendricks injured again. What a travesty…

  7. 7 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:09 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    We should have respected “The curse of the wrong brother” and cut Kendricks the moment his brother was drafted into the NFL…

  8. 8 Greg Tulino said at 1:39 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Keys to giving us a chance to beat the Vikings Sunday:
    1. Need a big play on special teams. Either Block a punt, a huge KO return or return a punt for a score or setting the offense up with a short field.

    2. Defense needs to consistently get pressure on Bradford and limit his security blanket, Kyle Rudolph from beating us. Ok so maybe this is two different things. Who cares. you get my point.

    3. Defense needs to cause at least 1 TO that we either score or set us up with a short field to score a TD.

    4. No turnovers on offense.

    5. Eagles need to run the ball often and with great success. Run for 125 yards this week at a minimum.

    6. Limit the penalties. Do not beat ourselves.

    I think we need to see the majority of the above happen to steal this game. Not impossible, but certainly a huge challenge.

    These keys could certainly work for any game. I get that, but in a game against a Super Bowl contending team with a top 3 defense playing with a ton of confidence we will need to be at our best to have a shot.

  9. 9 GermanEagle said at 5:45 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Excellent points. I was thinking the same.

    Ideally we should have saved the pick 6 and KOR TD from last week for the Vikings…

  10. 10 bill said at 9:32 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    IMO, the most important, and unfortunately least likely to happen, is 5. I don’t want to see another game where the load is placed directly on the rookie QBs shoulders to get it all done behind a tremendously leaky OL. I’d also say that 5 is a necessary precondition for 4 and to a lesser extent, 6.

  11. 11 Tumtum said at 1:09 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Move 6 to 1 and the rest is just gravy.

  12. 12 Cafone said at 3:24 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Matt Barkley is a starting quarterback in the NFL.

  13. 13 anon said at 3:33 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Matt Barkley completed 6-of-15 passes for 81 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions and rushed once for a loss of one yard Thursday in the Bears’ Week 7 loss to the Packers.

  14. 14 Dave said at 7:37 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Repetitive inaccuracy.

  15. 15 Jamie Parker said at 8:14 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    He’s fairly accurate at hitting the ground and the other team.

  16. 16 GermanEagle said at 5:45 AM on October 21st, 2016:


  17. 17 Blackfoot said at 12:54 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    for the bears

  18. 18 Dan in Philly said at 5:46 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Wentz is not yet good enough to play from behind in the shadow of his own end zone all game and be expected to win. True, most QBs aren’t ever good enough to do that. But if the D can play a good first half, the offense I’m confident will score enough against even the Vikings defense.
    13-9 Eagles.

  19. 19 Buge Halls said at 8:50 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Really? Seems to me that he came brought the team back and had the lead and was running out the clock for the win until Matthews fumbled the game away. I’d say that’s good enough.

  20. 20 The original AG said at 8:03 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Could have had a chance in DC, but Ertz dropped a sure TD and the Oline gave up on the last drive. Then Pederson decided to punt to a team his defense didn’t stop all day.

    So. many. coaching. mistakes.

  21. 21 Jamie Parker said at 7:09 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Maybe Barwin should replace Kendricks, and Curry play more DE.

  22. 22 Gian GEAGLE said at 9:02 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Yeah and we can move bennie logan to cornerback while we are at it…

  23. 23 wee2424 said at 11:39 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Now that’s crazy. I was thinking Jenkins to DT and Logan to S. Funny thing is that Logan just might have better hands then Jenkins.

  24. 24 GermanEagle said at 7:28 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    I really hope that Josh Brown will never kick a FG in the NFL. What a scum.

  25. 25 GermanEagle said at 1:03 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    And on that note: f u NY Giants.

  26. 26 Corry said at 7:55 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    The defense is just playing out of control. They need to get back to assignment sound, smart football if we have any hope of winning on Sunday against anyone. They’re capable of it. We saw it the first 3 weeks.

  27. 27 Buge Halls said at 8:44 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    The Cox penalty didn’t cost us the Detroit game – it was the Matthews fumble at the end of the game that lost it – nothing but. Giving Detroit the ball back with less than 2 minutes to go that deep is what lost the game. That’s not coaching, that’s not penalties, that’s nothing but him making a rookie mistake and carrying the ball in the wrong hand (and the refs not calling it out of bounds because Kelce touched it while he was out). You can’t blame that on on penalty earlier in the game.

  28. 28 GermanEagle said at 8:47 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Fact is though that Cox has not been playing up to his $100m contract as of late.

  29. 29 SteveH said at 9:02 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    He was rolling until that stinker against Wash. 4 sacks in 4 games puts him on pace for 16 sacks on the season for a defensive tackle, which is monstrous. Stats aside he commands double teams and has collapsed the pocket consistently.

    Now Mychal Kendricks… He hasn’t even been playing up to a roster spot, much less 7 million a year or whatever it is he’s making.

  30. 30 ChoTime said at 10:12 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    “The Cox penalty didn’t cost us the Detroit game – it was the Matthews fumble at the end of the game that lost it – nothing but.”

    The fumble happened late, that’s why it’s focused on. Take away another high-leverage mistake and we also get the win. It’s a fallacy to act as if the whole rest of the game doesn’t matter.

  31. 31 bill said at 10:27 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    There’s truth to this view, but there’s also a point in acknowledging that we live in a reality where time travels in a single direction (at least as we experience it). Mistakes early in a game, can and often will be overcome. The game clock exists, and represents a finite resource that is constantly decreasing. A mistake when that resource is almost gone is far more damaging than a mistake when that resource is in relative abundance.

    In other words (as most negotiators know) leverage increases exponentially as time nears an important deadline.

  32. 32 ChoTime said at 11:47 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Good point, but it wouldn’t do to overemphasize this fact. “Exponentially,” I’m afraid, is probably not appropriate. Take a look at this probability chart. The huge dive, I assume, correlates with the fumble. Yet this doesn’t necessarily prove your point. Take away one of the other high-leverage mistakes and the fumble simply leads to a tie or a closer game.

  33. 33 bill said at 12:21 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    ” Take away one of the other high-leverage mistakes and the fumble simply leads to a tie or a closer game.”

    That’s a counter-factual that is almost certainly not true. Take away one of the earlier mistakes, and I’d bet the house that the rest of the game would have unfolded in a very different way. Offensive playcalling, for example, can be very score dependent. Defensive playcalling, even moreso. While “momentum,” as such, is fiction, the impact events have on confidence (and therefore reaction speed), especially with marginal players, isn’t.

    Math can look impressive, but GI/GO rules.

  34. 34 ChoTime said at 2:09 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I’m not really sure what it means to say a counter-factual is almost certainly not true. My point is, football games tend to involve multiple high-leverage moments–“big plays.” I feel that focusing exclusively on the last one that happens, in isolation, is an error. The guy who misses the field goal, or the free throw, or fumbles at the end. Saying he “lost the game” ignores the contributions, both good and bad, of the other 20 players for the other 59 minutes and 55 seconds of the game.

  35. 35 eagleyankfan said at 2:20 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Call Norwood. I don’t think he’d agree with you….

  36. 36 Tumtum said at 12:40 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I wanted to see this link… apparently work doesn’t think that I should.

  37. 37 Tumtum said at 12:39 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I don’t know if I buy that. Obviously not the bit about time, but the bit about over coming mistakes.

    Don’t commit the earlier mistakes, have a 21 point lead and throwing a pick 6 followed by fumbling the ensuing kick-off….really doesn’t matter.

    Sure mistakes may seem worse at a point in the game where there is no time to overcome them. I disagree completely and want to place as much importance on the first snap as the last (especially as a coach).

  38. 38 Blackfoot said at 12:52 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Heavy Doc.

  39. 39 eagleyankfan said at 2:17 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    The whole rest of the game did matter. It mattered right up to the play where the fumbled happened. Can’t go back in time and say “well, if the Eagles scored more the fumble wouldn’t have mattered”. At that given point in the game, the Eagles were in control of their own destiny(they could still have lost). At that given point in the game, that fumble changed everything. Doesn’t matter what happened before that fumble. Whatever happened put the game in that situation. There are no what if’s allowed. Everything that happened leading up to that play — didn’t matter…

  40. 40 ChoTime said at 3:36 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    “Everything that happened leading up to that play — didn’t matter…”

    Like my grandpa always said, no point watching an NBA game until the last minute. Well, I don’t agree.

  41. 41 meteorologist said at 5:39 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I realize the fallacy in thinking the fumble was the only play that mattered . I agree with grandpa also

  42. 42 daveH said at 6:20 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Then he missed Dr J, greatest Philly player ever.. or one of

  43. 43 ChoTime said at 9:49 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    If you start watching NBA games at the 1 minute mark, you may never have even heard of Shaquille O’Neal. 🙂

  44. 44 daveH said at 10:20 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Who that actor rapper cop ?

  45. 45 RTP210 said at 10:19 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Am I the only one who feels really good about this game?

  46. 46 Aaron said at 10:21 AM on October 21st, 2016:


  47. 47 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:26 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Nope… Im surprised that I feel kind of good about this game. The vegas oddsmakers also made me feel better about this matchup

  48. 48 RTP210 said at 10:33 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    I don’t want to disrespect the last undefeated team but their two “impressive” wins aren’t very impressive now that the season has progressed. Both the Packers and Panthers have struggled hard. After that they’ve taken down the Titans (needed two non-offensive TD’s to do it), Giants, and Texans (Brock is a bottom five (?) QB in the league).

    The Steelers were a tougher matchup, IMO.

  49. 49 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:02 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Yeah but the Vikings are probably a more formidable challenge in the trenches than the Steelers were. The teams I fear are the ones that can bang it out in the trenches with us, I don’t care about what type of weapons an opponent has
    The skins kicked our ass in the trenches. That’s where we lost the game and playing without bennie logan really sucks. Fortunately the Viking run game has really struggled without AP, averaging like under 3 yards per carry and 80 yards a game.. If we can get a decent lead while stonewalling their run game, force them to become one dimensional playing from behind asking Bradford to throw his way back in the game on the road, I like our chances. If we get pushed around and allow them to run the way we allowed the washigton RBs to run wild, we won’t stand much of a chance against Bradford
    The,vikings defense is a whole other level above the defense Pittsburgh brought to the LINC.
    Very tough match up, fortunately games arent played on paper. Hopefully we won’t have to battle the refs too, but that starts with executing and eliminating dumb pre snap penalties that we can easily control.
    Hopefully the fear and respect for facing an opponent like the Vikings, is what we needed to refocus and bring the best out of us… This could be a hurtful loss, or we can make it a big opportunity to stop the bleeding, get a huge win, and build some confidence back up…

  50. 50 Stephen E. said at 12:16 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Since they’re getting like 2.9YPC, hasn’t Bradford already been putting the team on his back?

  51. 51 ChoTime said at 2:10 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    With those toothpick legs and everything!

    I just don’t buy that he can keep this up, seriously.

  52. 52 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:57 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Yup… But there is a difference between playing with a lead when you can still call run plays, even if they ARENT successfull they at least keep the defense from pinning its ears back the way they can when the defense is playing with a second half lead and the opposing QB has to throw every play..
    Just look at our defense, our second half #’s have been really good. And most of those numbers came while playing with a lead
    Even a run game that ISNT very successful is still much better than when a team has to comletely abandon the run and throw their way back in a game. Bradford hasn’t made many mistakes, hopefully that can change if we build a decent lead, easier said and done the way that viking defense has been playing. Tôugh matchup for sure

  53. 53 ChoTime said at 11:43 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Minnesota’s going down.

  54. 54 Tumtum said at 12:34 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    For some strange reason, I do too.

  55. 55 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:25 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    We need to line up DGB in front of terrence Newman and get after the 38yr old corner all game long… Be great if the OL gives us enough time to let DGB hit him with a double move or something. This is the week to really unleash DGB, and send him deep and make old man Newman work. There is no way a young super athlete like DGB should allow Newman to shut him down..
    But we need to use SPROLES and our TE’s to occupy their LB and Safeties in hopes that we can Isolate Newman and let DGB go to work

    Vikings DL will probably be a little extra aggressive after seeing Vaitai’s struggles on film so im hoping to see Pederson execute a game plan built around using the Vikings aggression against them, using Vaitai’s struggles to bait their DE to get sucked into a screen we can gash them with. going to have to make some big plays because the Vikings defense probably won’t allow us to go up and down the field all game with long Maticulous drives
    The Vikings DONT score a ton of points so a ST or Defensive TD could be huge for us this week.. Hopefully Huff, SPROLES, or Smallwood can make some Special Teams Magic this week.
    It’s going to take 4 strong quarters of sound, Discaplined play to win This game. Beating the Vikings is a big enough challenge without Also beating ourselves with penalties and blown assignments.
    The crowd is going to be rowdy to start the game, it’s very important that we start the game strong and keep the crowd in the game because the Vikings are also playing with some backups on their OL, the crowd Needs to make it as difficult for the Vikings offense to communicate as possible.
    Very difficult match up, but this is also an opportunity to swing momentum and confidence back in our favor if we can find a way to pull off this win. This is NOT the week for Wentz to try and pull off some magical 4th quarter comeback win, we need to be ready to play, and punch the vikings in the mouth early in the first quarter, and ideally make the Vikings play from behind in a rowdy environment
    I feel better about this game than I thought I would, but playing without Logan is a huge loss

  56. 56 RobNE said at 11:08 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Is Logan definitely out?

  57. 57 Gian GEAGLE said at 11:38 AM on October 21st, 2016:

    Logan, Ron brooks, Leodis and Kendricks are listed as questionable right now, but I thought we would be without bennie for a game or two. He isn’t practicing at all This week and most of the media seems to expect him not to play on Sunday
    Marcus smith, Kelce, barbie doll are good to go

  58. 58 Stephen E. said at 12:17 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Kelce might be going, but he’s far from good lately.

  59. 59 Tumtum said at 12:34 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I want to see the ZERO run game from the Vikes on Sunday. They suck at running the ball anyway. Take it away completely and see if Sam can beat us.

  60. 60 GermanEagle said at 1:02 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Up. Vote.

  61. 61 ChoTime said at 2:11 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Usually the game plan is take away what people are good at…

  62. 62 Tumtum said at 4:24 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Was going to go into that but wanted to keep it short. Since you asked; Minn is a run first team. That is their identity and who they think they are. They just suck at it.

    No different than us who think we are an AR WCO.

  63. 63 meteorologist said at 5:51 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    If Joe Webb can beat us, Sam def can

  64. 64 anon said at 6:38 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    and Matt cassel

  65. 65 GermanEagle said at 1:16 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Someone’s posted a very intriguing final score: 13-9

    I still cannot make my mind up who’s gonna be on top of that.

    If there’s one low scoring battle to win/lose this season, it’s gonna be this Sunday.

  66. 66 BobSmith77 said at 2:01 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    If the Eagles go down by 2 scores in the 1st half again, their done. Just can’t keep digging themselves 10 or 14-pt deficits by the early/mid 2nd qtr.

  67. 67 BobSmith77 said at 2:14 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Reuben Frank was on today and I actually listened a bit. Made some semi-interesting points including that this team hasn’t had a 80-yd rusher since Murray in Week 8 last year with 81 yards.

    Basically his larger point is that the Eagles have no offensive identity right now. McNabb had Duce in ’99 and Cunningham had Byars/Jackson in ’88 when he became the starter. Mentioned Sproles as doing some unique things and Ertz/Matthews but no one the offensive can really rely upon.

    Tend to agree and one of the reasons I thought they would be 6-10 would be how terrible the offense was this year. Unfortunately, I think the offense of the last 2 weeks is a lot closer to their performance the rest of the season than the first 3 weeks.

  68. 68 P_P_K said at 2:38 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    May the football gods grant us the next Brady-Gronk in Wentz-Ertz.

  69. 69 daveH said at 6:16 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I hated Duce as our RB .. sofa king slow

  70. 70 sonofdman said at 11:08 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Counterpoint #1 – Pickle juice game.

    Counter point #2 – Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuce!

  71. 71 daveH said at 12:01 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Thankgod BWest made good

  72. 72 The original AG said at 7:58 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Problem is they’ve been trying to use Mathews as the identity and I don’t think it’s going so well. I’d say let Smallwood get the snaps Mathews gets and see what happens.

  73. 73 D3FB said at 3:35 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    We’re 8th in rush yards/G and 16th in ypc. So it’s not like we can’t run it.

  74. 74 BobSmith77 said at 3:18 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    See this game this week coming down to special teams including how well the coverage unit can play and punters being a big deal with field position. I see one of these teams getting a special teams play that is the difference.

  75. 75 Gian GEAGLE said at 3:51 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Mychal and Erik Kendricks are on ESPN NFL Live together…, what a kick in the nuts.
    Hope they DONT show both of their highlights from this season because it won’t look good for us
    Mychal is talking greasy.. “YALL might be riding on a high horse right now but we got something coming for them…YALL going down!”

  76. 76 daveH said at 6:14 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Thats horrible to read. .. he really say that shallow meaningless jibber jabber that he cannot back up… damn thats denial

  77. 77 Jbirdss said at 9:46 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Lets hope mychal doesn’t blab the game plan to his brother

  78. 78 Gian GEAGLE said at 4:00 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I want to see Aaron Donald wreck Eli and the Giants offense..
    Anyone remember how Kelce used to do against Linvale Joseph when he played for the Giants?

  79. 79 Anders said at 5:07 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Not good the first game here with Kelly but great the 2nd game

  80. 80 A_T_G said at 7:57 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Not that Kelce’s past successes seem particularly indicative of future performance this season…

  81. 81 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:39 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Thank you..

  82. 82 A_T_G said at 4:29 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    It has been a busy time for me, so I haven’t been on top of the news, but how are the Giants possibly being this bad at handling the Brown issue? The tweet, the cutting, the uncutting, the support, the mom responding…this is a mess.

  83. 83 meteorologist said at 5:49 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I thought I was relatively on top of the news and i didn’t hear about any of that haha

  84. 84 SteveH said at 5:56 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    The only shame is that Mara won’t get dragged through the mud, he’ll still be held up as a paragon of NFL owner moral virtue.

  85. 85 Media Mike said at 7:46 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    He’s trash.

  86. 86 RobNE said at 5:58 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Are they not allowed under the CBA to just cut him?

  87. 87 wee2424 said at 11:19 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    They can absolutely cut him. Just ask Ray Rice. You can pretty much cut a player for shits and giggles in the NFL.

  88. 88 Media Mike said at 7:46 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Trash organization. Trash fan base.

  89. 89 daveH said at 9:41 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Giants fans love hillary

  90. 90 laeagle said at 11:55 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Dumb comment

  91. 91 daveH said at 12:11 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Yep.. trolling. Pushing buttons. but 45pct true since both candidates are new yorkers.

  92. 92 laeagle said at 4:54 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    dumber evasion

  93. 93 daveH said at 5:35 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Vote for real change then.

  94. 94 Media Mike said at 8:44 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Did you change this from the Hillary comment I saw in my email notification?

  95. 95 daveH said at 9:17 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Yes. Im bored or actually im being boring. . Agitating

  96. 96 daveH said at 9:20 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Oh and laeagle busted my chops properly so i was trying to make a funny response .. disqus doesn’t email me responses

  97. 97 Media Mike said at 9:22 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Ok; gotcha. I was going to retort with this.

  98. 98 daveH said at 9:32 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Thats a pretty good survey. Thanks

  99. 99 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:38 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    NFL also shares some blame for this mess…. So much for their bullshit 6 game suspension for domestic violence. This dude admitted to domestic violence, his wife said there have been over 20 incidents and that joke of a commissioner gives him a 1 game suspension?

    Not sure who im more upset with, the NFL or the scumbag Giants… Giants DONT surprise me, after all they have allowed a Diva WR to take that franchise Hostage with his ridiculous behavior

  100. 100 sonofdman said at 11:06 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Agreed. The amazing thing is that his contract was up and they chose to resign him after they knew about at least some of this stuff.

  101. 101 Tumtum said at 6:20 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    So I finally got to watch that video of missed tackles, due to the internet no longer being broke. Now I wish ISIS or Anonymous or whoever would resume DDOSing the intrawebz again.

  102. 102 daveH said at 6:22 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Ha! I started watching but then said to myself. Self, wtf are you watching ?? And i stopped

  103. 103 GermanEagle said at 9:07 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Would love to read ‘Know your enemy’…

  104. 104 RobNE said at 9:48 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Watching Invincible to get ready for the game.

  105. 105 The original AG said at 10:35 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I don’t know if this has been mentioned on a previous board, but I’m happy Treggs might get some time this week. He has speed, and if he can get out in the field, someone will have to chase him. Can he be any worse than Huff and Agholor who aren’t giving you that much.

    And why is Paul Turner on the practice squad? At least he could hold on to the ball.

  106. 106 anon said at 11:00 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    who you gonna cut to bring those guys up?

  107. 107 Insomniac said at 11:12 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    I just checked. Josh Huff is still on the team.

  108. 108 Mitchell said at 11:50 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    Gotta catch the ball before you can do anything with it…

  109. 109 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:45 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    If im not mistaken, I think huff and Agholar are the only two WRs with no drops yet this year… Of course they have really only thrown short to huff so far…

  110. 110 Gian GEAGLE said at 10:43 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    I like the way Huff played last week. One of the few players that didn’t infuriate me…. Kids playing like a beast on special teams..
    Go figure, Huff and Marcus smith were like my favorite players in the redskin game, two of the most maligned Eagles brought it, while most of the team folded..
    Just give Treggs bennie Logans roster spot for this week, and let’s see what the kid can do

    NEED a punt return TD out of SPROLES tomorrow

  111. 111 wee2424 said at 11:23 PM on October 21st, 2016:

    So the Eagles officially now have the hardest rest of schedule in the league. Interesting how that ended up.

  112. 112 GermanEagle said at 8:47 AM on October 22nd, 2016:

    It’s probably because we won the Super Bowl last year.

  113. 113 GermanEagle said at 1:39 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    I may make myself a little bit unpopular, but I really would love to see more coverage from Tommy in terms of analysing and preparing for upcoming opponents.

    I really love the ‘know your enemy’ blog and while I appreciate all the detailed and thorough game reviews that Tommy put so much work in, but I honestly wouldn’t mind if such a review gets canned inspite of getting fired up for gameday.

    So now feel free to stone me…

  114. 114 daveH said at 2:07 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Thats one reason Sheil was so popular yup

  115. 115 D3FB said at 4:40 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Fran does one

  116. 116 daveH said at 9:21 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Where u watching tomoro ?

  117. 117 GermanEagle said at 12:08 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Shorty’s. In Hell’s Kitchen. You coming?

  118. 118 daveH said at 1:32 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    At Trionas on 17 & 3d

  119. 119 Tumtum said at 12:37 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    I would probably enjoy Tommy’s version of that more than anyone else’s. Whatever he does I’ll be reading.

  120. 120 Gian GEAGLE said at 2:53 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    boy PhillyMag has turned into a real graveyard.. Seems like people were ok with Paunil, but once they brought Gowton over from BGN, that was the end of PhillyMag….talk about a nose dive

  121. 121 ChoTime said at 3:34 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Used to be dozens of comments and now sometimes only a few.

  122. 122 daveH said at 7:18 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Single digit comment boxes now .. sometines ZERO. Who is BLG .. im not local anymore

  123. 123 Koy: The Legend of Neckbeard said at 11:59 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Was a blogger at Bleeding Green Nation. I don’t know why people hate him. He’s not that bad.

  124. 124 ChoTime said at 12:06 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    I think they hate him because he’s not Sheil. It’s pretty bitchy, if you ask me.

  125. 125 Dave said at 7:50 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    It’s hard to come back from Buzzfeed-style headlines and articles to actual journalism, which is what BLG is attempting.

  126. 126 Media Mike said at 8:41 PM on October 22nd, 2016:


  127. 127 ChoTime said at 11:53 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Supposedly they all went to ex-Public Enemy No. 1 Jimmy Kempski’s site?

  128. 128 Media Mike said at 8:42 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    I got banned for (without cursing) for flaming Harry Gamble. Real lame.

  129. 129 iceberg584 said at 9:32 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    At the end of the day, the only reason that site was ever even a thing was because of Kapadia and McManus. It was never going to survive without them.

    I just checked it out and noticed they are now doing an ersatz version of Kempski’s “college players to watch” articles. Sad.

  130. 130 Tumtum said at 12:34 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    You know I didn’t even realize McManus left. It was actually the only other Eagles site I checked on regularly. When the article titles no long warranted clicks I just stopped going.

    Where is Tim now?

  131. 131 Dave said at 7:47 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    ESPN. He still writes about the Eagles though.

  132. 132 Tumtum said at 10:36 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Damn, him too? Good for him.

  133. 133 unhinged said at 4:42 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    Anybody watching Alabama v Texas a&m? There was a PI call against Ta&m that was absolutely infuriating. The defender made incidental contact w/the receiver in order to get to the ball. He tipped the pass, textbook fashion, and got called. The degree to which subjectivity can mess with the truth is mind-wrenching. “Get the government hands off my medicare.”

  134. 134 The original AG said at 7:13 PM on October 22nd, 2016:

    They also missed a clear helmet to helmet call on a KOR earlier in the game.

  135. 135 Kohlhaas said at 10:12 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    It’s a shame a talent like Gurley is going to get wasted playing for that shyte coach Jeff Fisher.

  136. 136 Kohlhaas said at 10:37 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Why can you get a penalty for hitting a defenseless receiver but nothing for hitting a guy looking up for a punt? Just saw someone from the rams get wrecked because he was looking up for the ball and a giant just laid into him. Seems like a defenseless position. I mean, if you actually give a fuck about player safety.

  137. 137 SteveH said at 10:40 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Because the NFL is reactionary and doesn’t care about the actual safety of players, only the perception that they care about players.

    Also, what channel is that game on? I can’t find it anywhere.

  138. 138 Kohlhaas said at 10:46 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    NFL Network

  139. 139 SteveH said at 10:38 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    I miss the Eagles podcast with Tommy and Jimmy. That needs to come back!

    Also, Leonard Fournette

  140. 140 SteveH said at 11:03 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Jeff Fischer always looks like a stoner who’s worried you know he’s high.

  141. 141 daveH said at 11:38 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Recent discussion of coaches making the HOF, PTi thinks fat andy makes it … i think the Hall should have a shed .. for coaches who made it.. as in got rich, had better success for themselves than their team and stayed employeed gor 20 years after someone else got them their 1 ring … enter fat andy, enter jeff fisher

  142. 142 ChoTime said at 11:46 AM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Absurd to put those guys in the same category. Last four years:

    Andy Reid KC: 11-5, 9-7, 11-5, 3-2
    Jeff Fisher Rams: 7-9, 6-10, 7-9, 3-3

    The last time Fisher finished .500 was 7 years ago. Andy Reid finished under .500 once in the last decade. Reid has won at least 10 games in 10/17 years. Fisher 6 times in 21 tries.

  143. 143 daveH said at 1:32 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Well said. Thks

  144. 144 Kohlhaas said at 12:01 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Yikes! Keenum is seriously terrible.

  145. 145 HawaiianEagle said at 12:03 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    God D@mn the rams suck.

  146. 146 Dave said at 12:38 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Except for Tavon this week who put up 22 points on my bench.

  147. 147 GermanEagle said at 12:08 PM on October 23rd, 2016:

    Is Tommy ok?