Sloppy Day

Posted: October 9th, 2016 | Author: | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 265 Comments »

The Eagles are undefeated no more. The team made a variety of mistakes and lost to the Lions, 24-23.

There is no one person to blame for this loss. The defense was terrible in the first half, allowing 3 TD drives. The offense failed to convert a Lions fumble in scoring territory into a TD. Then they turned the ball over on the final 2 plays, sealing the loss.

The Eagles have won as a team all year. Today they lost as a team.

This was a very frustrating game. The officiating was terrible. That alone did not cost the Eagles the game, but it certainly had an impact on it. Bad calls or not, the Eagles had control of the game. The late turnovers gave it to the Lions and those had nothing to do with officiating. You can argue there was contact on the final pass play, but I didn’t see that as a blatant situation.

One of the issues in the 1st half was poor LB play. Nigel Bradham didn’t seem to be on the field as much as usual. I need to re-watch the game and see what was going on. Mychal Kendricks had a couple of mistakes that hurt the defense when trying to cover Riddick. Bradham played a lot in the 2nd half and the defense looked like it normally does. They flew around the field and made life tough on the Lions offense. Bradham had 3 TFLs and recovered a fumble so that shows you the kind of impact he can have on a game.

I wasn’t a big fan of the 3rd down play the Eagles ran where Ryan Mathews fumbled the ball away. He was having most of his success between the tackles. To suddenly toss him the ball and ask him to run outside felt weird. I would have preferred a rollout with Wentz where he had the run-pass option. That puts more pressure on the defense. Still, Mathews cannot fumble that ball away. He had it in his inside arm and that didn’t help matters. Getting the 1st down there is huge, but the one thing you can’t do is give them the ball with a turnover.

Carson Wentz played a very good game up until the end. He made a bad decision and compounded that with a bad throw. You can yell and gripe all you want about Nelson Agholor, but watch the play. That ball is to the outside. He’s looking over his shoulder and trying to get outside to the ball. He can’t because the CB is right there in perfect position. That ball needs to be away from the CB, which is to the inside. Agholor certainly didn’t help matters, but that is a bad throw.

It was also a bad decision. Wentz had a clean pocket and got greedy. Instead of finding an underneath receiver or even throwing the ball away, he decided to heave the ball downfield. Dumb. You just don’t do that in that situation. When you trail by a point, have a hot PK and 1:20 or so on the clock, you don’t have to force things. Play smart.

The good news here is that this is a rookie QB making that mistake. We’ve seen more than a few Eagles veterans do it. There are times to be aggressive and times to play situational football. That was a situational moment.

Wentz got his first real taste of adversity and handled it well right up to that point, which is what makes the decision/throw so frustrating. That’s what will get talked about and not the rest of the game, where he looked so good.

The Eagles are 3-1. The rookie QB continues to play well. The defense struggled for a half, but then dominated in the 2nd half. Things could be a lot worse. We knew the Eagles were going to lose at some point. We knew Wentz would throw an INT at some point. Now we get to see how the team responds to a bad day. Besides, better to have a day like this vs the Lions than next week against the Skins.

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265 Comments on “Sloppy Day”

  1. 1 Mitchell said at 4:57 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Cowboys looking good vs the Bengals, Redskins win, shitty day of football so far.

  2. 2 Media Mike said at 5:01 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    This is vile.

  3. 3 bubqr said at 5:09 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I really thought the Cowboys had enough pieces to not pick at the top of the draft for a while, preventing them to get Romo’s replacement easily. Well now, I’m really shitting myself. They got plenty of pieces in place to be a top teams for a while, as Dak definitely looks for real.

  4. 4 Media Mike said at 5:10 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    F Dak.

  5. 5 ac134spectre said at 7:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Blah. He blows. Supporting cast is excellent.

  6. 6 Patrick said at 5:16 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The Cowboys have a good team. Strong OL, Dez and a good supporting cast of targets, Zeke and some players on defense.

    Still cannot believe that they lucked out with Dak. Made the mistake to draft Zeke that high, which alone would make them a very good team and he will be a great player, but historically its been a while since a RB won Super Bowls for his team. Then they fucking hit on a 4th round QB, to pair up with their RB, negating that whole situation.

    Only positive is the inner division competition, which I truly believe strengthens a team and prepares you for the play-offs and continues seasons of being a good football team. But dammit, of course its the Cowboys who hit on a position thats notoriously difficult to, not only draft well on, but very rare to actually hit a good starter outside of the top 50, and they did it without investing a lot of picks, both prior and after, meaning they have that OL and now plenty of time to build up that defense.

    Fuck the cowboys!

  7. 7 Howie Littlefinger said at 5:20 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I know the rivalry the Patriots have with the Bills, Jets, and Miami really push them to be great

    Don’t mind me I’m just getting bitter

  8. 8 Patrick said at 5:27 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Well, the Jets did have a couple of years before imploding, but point taken.

    I was more referring to the old NFC East teams, not to mention the AFC North which seems to have had at least 1 strong team for the past 468 years. The NFC North also had loads of years with multiple strong teams.

  9. 9 xmbk said at 4:59 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ridiculous that the NFL has not yet committed to full time referees.

  10. 10 Dave said at 5:04 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They don’t to avoid the referees forming a union. Read about it last year.

  11. 11 xeynon said at 5:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They only make $9 billion a year. It would be AWFUL if they had to pay their officials union wages.

  12. 12 Dave said at 5:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    My understanding is that they will look into in more closely once we get to an 18-game schedule and they have some extra cash to pay for it (after pocketing several hundred million).

  13. 13 Media Mike said at 5:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Hopefully that schedule never happens. It would lead to way too many bums laying down on the job and not playing in weeks I need them.

  14. 14 Mr. Magee said at 10:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The issue is not the wages, it’s the fact that the union could hold them hostage. We don’t need (or want) a unionized pool of officials; but we do need and should expect competence.

  15. 15 xmbk said at 5:16 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I know that. Still ridiculous, just being greedy.

  16. 16 Bob Brewer said at 5:35 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    You really think that would make a difference?

  17. 17 xmbk said at 6:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    In what? Certainly spending the week reviewing and previewing film makes for better officiating. Spending the week on a full-time job is a distraction. Is there any doubt about that?

  18. 18 James Adair said at 11:38 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The other 3 sports have full time officials and they all blow also.

  19. 19 Media Mike said at 5:02 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    “There is no one person to blame for this loss.”

    Correct, there is a list
    Kendricks, Kelce, Barbre, Agholor, Mathews, CBs as a group.

  20. 20 Dave said at 5:04 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Well at least Barner didn’t have a bad game…

  21. 21 Media Mike said at 5:05 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He and Smallwood must have went partying in Canada last night and not made it back for the game.

  22. 22 jaws80 said at 12:43 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    smallwood is a rookie, cant trust him to not fumble. so let the vet handle the ball./s

  23. 23 Sean Stott said at 5:15 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Kendricks looked really bad tbh

  24. 24 Media Mike said at 5:16 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Matador

  25. 25 Buge Halls said at 6:09 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Kelce late on the snap twice is inexcusable! When the QB is back there clapping his hands like a mad man, snap the freaking ball!

  26. 26 SteveH said at 7:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That was driving me crazy, Wentz clapping his life out for the snap and Kelce just sitting on it.

  27. 27 James Adair said at 11:40 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I am thinking with all the crowd noise he didn’t hear it? Isn’t the guard supposed to look back and tap Kelce in fan noise situations?

  28. 28 jaws80 said at 12:42 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    absolutely and on the second one, Brooks was slapping his leg and Kelce still did not hike. strange.

  29. 29 xeynon said at 5:12 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Bad, sloppy loss against a crappy team they should’ve beaten. Looked to me like the team spent their bye week accepting a few too many pats on the back after their win over the Steelers and came back unfocused. There were way too many blown assignments, dumb penalties, and mental errors. Hopefully Pederson uses this opportunity to teach the team an object lesson about keeping your eye on the ball.

    On the plus side, I’m more convinced than ever that we have the right coaches and the right quarterback. After a bad start, the defense adjusted nicely and Pederson’s game plan was good and moved the ball effectively all day. It was only penalties and dropped passes that kept that from translating into points. As for Wentz, he didn’t look rattled by the deficit and brought the team back with aplomb. If not for Mathews’ stupid mistake on that fumble it may well have been enough to win on a bad day for the rest of the team. That’s what you want to see from your franchise QB.

    We knew they weren’t going 16-0 and 3-1 at the quarter pole is not bad. They need to put this one behind them and get ready for a big game against Washington next week though.

  30. 30 Media Mike said at 5:15 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    “Bad, sloppy loss against a crappy team they should’ve beaten. Looked to me like the team spent their bye week accepting a few too many pats on the back after their win over the Steelers and came back unfocused. There were way too many blown assignments, dumb penalties, and mental errors. Hopefully Pederson uses this opportunity to teach the team an object lesson about keeping your eye on the ball.”

    Agreed.

  31. 31 HawaiianEagle said at 5:16 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Eye and hands on the ball

  32. 32 Sean Stott said at 5:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    reposting it again because I’m super salty about it

    http://i.imgur.com/z7NOmda.png

    http://i.imgur.com/S1ml9A7.jpg

    http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016100902/2016/REG5/eagles@lions#menu=drivechart%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000717728&tab=recap

    “Rule 8, section 7 (Fumbles):”
    Item 2. Loose Ball. A loose ball is out of bounds when it touches a boundary line or anything that is on or outside such line, including a player, an official, or a pylon.

    This was reviewed which means a lot of people missed what I, a fan not too well versed with the rulebook, clearly saw immediately. Pete Morelli man, Jesus.

  33. 33 Dave said at 5:45 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I don’t see it in the pics you posted and I slow-mo’d it on my DVR and still couldn’t definitively see anyone touch it . It was inconclusive to overturn.

  34. 34 John Galt said at 5:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    What are you talking about? It’s in Kelces ass and he is obviously out of bounds. Doesn’t have to be a lion

  35. 35 Sean Stott said at 6:09 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    you don’t see Kelce dry humping the ball with his arms out of bounds?

  36. 36 Dave said at 6:13 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Nope

  37. 37 John Galt said at 6:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It’s okay to be wrong. Not okay to deny clear evidence

  38. 38 Dave said at 6:26 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    If it were clear, it would have been overturned.

  39. 39 Sean Stott said at 6:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Everyone was only focused on the Lions guy no one mentioned once Kelce. It was a huge oversight and Pete Morelli is known for those. But I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just blind

  40. 40 John Galt said at 8:34 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That’s right. Morelli got worried about the lions guy whose hand was out but you couldn’t tell for sure and missed the obvious. He is awful

  41. 41 James Adair said at 11:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Blind Troll

  42. 42 John Galt said at 6:35 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It’s touching both his legs. I can’t speak for Morelli but he missed it.

  43. 43 Dave said at 7:00 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    You need another angle to confirm. Is this woman touching her nose or could her finger be and inch away from her nose? Without another angle, it’s speculation either way.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ClEOwSTNoBw/Un7tVwClosI/AAAAAAAAABc/CHmj3DIFn-s/s1600/mom_touching_nose.JPG

  44. 44 John Galt said at 8:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Wrong. If you look at the angle where the ball is clearly touching his leg ( make sure you turn your phone or tablet if you are using one to horizontal) you can clearly see his arm is on the sideline

  45. 45 Dave said at 8:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Wrong, I’ll just leave this here.

    https://twitter.com/DeanBlandino/status/785274766458355713

  46. 46 John Galt said at 9:29 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Okay because Dean Blandino covers his horrible Refs ass I will not believe what I can clearly see in the picture above. Notice in your video how he doesn’t slow it down at the critical frame, only slightly after.

  47. 47 Dave said at 9:53 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He fucking stops the video and circles Kelce’s arm out of bounds at that exact critical frame.

  48. 48 John Galt said at 10:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    No he doesn’t. The critical frame is the one before, which is in the picture above. The one where the ball is right under his ass, clearly touching both legs

  49. 49 Dave said at 10:39 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    You mean the one where Kelce is still in bounds and the ball is under his ass?

  50. 50 John Galt said at 11:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He’s not in bounds and you can see clearly his arm on the line in the bottom right corner of the shot. If you are too blind to see it that is your problem. I’m done here

  51. 51 Dave said at 7:31 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Yes, he is in bounds.

  52. 52 Mr. Magee said at 11:19 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Blandino, lol… He’s credible!

  53. 53 Mr. Magee said at 11:17 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yeah, they always get it right

  54. 54 Sean Stott said at 6:15 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    http://i.imgur.com/hZWgE0k.png

    is your avatar your IRL picture or something?

  55. 55 Dave said at 6:24 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Not being a smartass, just don’t see the ball touching Kelce.

  56. 56 Sloppy Day - said at 5:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    […] Tommy Lawlor The Eagles are undefeated no more. The team made a variety of mistakes and lost to the Lions, […]

  57. 57 Julescat said at 5:17 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Pederson is not Reid.

    Reid’s teams usually won coming out of the bye week

  58. 58 bdbd20 said at 5:22 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    To be fair, those teams weren’t that good going into the bye.

  59. 59 Julescat said at 5:26 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    well there’s that too

  60. 60 Media Mike said at 5:18 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Cincinnati should be disbanded as a city as punishment for this. Making a collect of JV level garbage look like the 88 Niners.

  61. 61 Sean Stott said at 5:19 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Is my counting wrong or did two eagles WRs drop touchdown passes?

  62. 62 Media Mike said at 5:20 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Correct. Same series. Agholor and DGB. Opposite sidelines

  63. 63 Jbirdss said at 5:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Besides the catch ertz made vs browns, no other receivers else has made a play for wentz

  64. 64 Dave said at 5:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    or for Wentz too

  65. 65 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:39 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Early in the game Ags made about 3 tough catches in traffic.

    Jmatt caught the back shoulder throw at the end of the half.

  66. 66 Dave said at 5:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Huh, Ags only had 2 catches for 27 yards.

  67. 67 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:44 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Then maybe those were the only 2 he had. They were good grabs.

    Not saying he’s anything special; just saying we didn’t lose because the pass catchers left the QB out to dry

  68. 68 Dave said at 5:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Does is seem that Wentz takes a lot off his throws to Ags? We know he can throw it on a rope, but the passes to Ags seem to be more floaters. I have to believe that is on purpose to help him catch it.

  69. 69 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Both of completions today looked like lasers. The TD pass to Huff even had some spice on it. I dont think its something he thinks about.

    I have a bigger issue with them not finding Jmatt or Ertz for large stretches of the game today; or not going to DGB more

  70. 70 Jbirdss said at 6:11 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Im not saying it’s their fault, they make the catches the they are supposed (sometimes not even that).

  71. 71 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:37 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It looked like the CB was pulling DGB’s other arm down with both hands

  72. 72 James Adair said at 11:46 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He was. Horrific officiating, No credibility just awful people.

  73. 73 Dave said at 5:40 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Wentz’s only bad decision on that final pass was throwing to Ags.

    He was single covered. Although it may have been to the wrong shoulder, great to elite players come down with that ball. Good ones break it up. Ags couldn’t even track it and/or simply got outmuscled fighting for position.

    Pederson is putting Wentz in a position to fail by keeping Ags in the game so much. Anquan Boldin is 50 years old and still a better receiver than Ags. Ags and Huff must be the best practice players ever. Hopefully it’s only a matter of time until Doug realizes they aren’t gamers.

  74. 74 Mitchell said at 5:41 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I hate the Cowboys so much that it is hard to articulate.

  75. 75 daveH said at 7:00 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Me too.. Dak reminds me of DMacNabb

  76. 76 A_T_G said at 5:41 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I was at a soccer tournament all weekend, so I was watching through Merril’s eyes, but is anyone still claiming that Kendricks is playing fine and gets less reps because of formation?

    It seems like Bradham received an unpublished team punishment in the first half and the defense paid for it. Only the refs were more at fault than Kendricks, at least through Merril’s eyes.

  77. 77 Baloophi said at 5:58 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Technology-wise, how do you consume the games when at soccer tournaments? Are you leaving an ear-free to interact with families / children… or do you create your own “cone of silence” on the sidelines, muttering to yourself with each egregious 3rd down penalty?

  78. 78 Buge Halls said at 6:13 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Earphone and the Eagles app on your phone – he’s watching a soccer game, it’s not like anything is going to happen on the field!

  79. 79 A_T_G said at 6:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    You pretty much nailed it.

    I leave the ear towards my wife free…until the last few drives.

  80. 80 Corry said at 6:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Once upon a time, Kendricks seemed like such a promising young player, but now if he isn’t attacking up-field he’s a liability. I’d rather see Najee Goode on the field in place of him.

  81. 81 meteorologist said at 10:47 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Even attacking upfield he’s liable to be out of control and whiff!

  82. 82 Howie Littlefinger said at 7:20 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    One of the poorest lopsided officiated games I’ve ever seen and we still had a shot to win it

  83. 83 James Adair said at 11:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Agreed.

  84. 84 Baloophi said at 5:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I agree that Wentz “going for it” on 1st down to end the game was a bad decision, but I’m not sure it was a bad throw (and not sure we’ll know until the All-22).

    To me, it looked like the deep corner “tracking” drill the WR’s and QB’s do at the Combine, where the WR runs about 20 yards straight down the field and then turns to look back and adjust to the deep ball purposely thrown outside toward the numbers by the QB.

    Given that the safety was in the middle of the field, I don’t think Wentz could have thrown it in that direction. Agholor also didn’t help matters: He slowed down his route from the 40 – 50 yard line before Wentz threw it, assuming he was out of the play. That’s where he should have “stacked” Slay, which would’ve put him in position to drift outside for the catch.

    Again, agree on the bad, “gunslinger” decision, but I’m not sure the throw was all that bad.

  85. 85 Patrick said at 5:50 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Game on the line, you see the ball coming and that its looking like an interception, you freaking tackle the guy. Deck him for all i care, just take the OPI and dont let him make that game ending play.

  86. 86 Baloophi said at 5:52 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I’m not arguing against that either. I also think – game on the line – maybe you don’t give up on your route 15 yards down the field…

  87. 87 Patrick said at 5:59 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yeah, i get it, maybe its not the best decision to go for it all with the game on the line, but plenty of time against Darius Slay when your WR is Ags, but still. Plenty of reason to blame Ags on that play too, and frankly, I like Wentz going for the win.

    For years the Chargers were a very good team, but you just knew they’d get bounced from the playoffs before the Super Bowl, because they played not to lose.

  88. 88 James Adair said at 11:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Slay grabbed his collar and pulled him down when he started to go for the ball. PI all the way.

  89. 89 Fufina said at 5:53 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I don’t think the decision was bad – the pass was to the wrong side and slightly under thrown, but that happens on deep bombs – you cannot always judge it perfectly when it has that much time in the air. Ball was up for grabs and either player could have got it – in fact i felt that Agholor was in the better position. Unfortunately he could not come down with it or break it up and we lost because of it.

  90. 90 Baloophi said at 5:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It’ll be good to see the All 22. Not “good” really… but, enlightening?

  91. 91 A_T_G said at 5:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Maybe I am in the minority (almost definitely since it failed), but I like the call.

    A minute left in a one-score game and they are single covering the deep threat? You need to throw that pass. 90% of the time it is incomplete and opens things up underneath. Execution was the issue, not the call.

  92. 92 Baloophi said at 5:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Oh, if he catches it or gets a PI it’s the greatest decision in the world!

  93. 93 Baloophi said at 5:56 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Though then we would’ve scored too quickly…

  94. 94 sonofdman said at 7:28 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    If you think we were getting a PI call from those officials, you weren’t watching the rest of the game!

  95. 95 jaws80 said at 12:36 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    but you also need to know who you are throwing to. Agholor was having a bad game, and has not shown in his career that he can be trusted in that situation.

  96. 96 Insomniac said at 7:19 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It was under thrown from the looks of it. Agholor had to slow down and then speed up again since he wasn’t sure where the ball was. It ended up behind him regardless but that’s from what I saw.

  97. 97 DJH said at 5:50 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Having had a little time to reflect, maybe the biggest concern for me is that they couldn’t win a game they should have. This was a problem with Reid’s Eagles. Very frustrating. I’ll be honest, I’m trying to stay optimistic but I’m hoping it’s not a sign of things to come.

  98. 98 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 5:54 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They just looked flat coming off an early bye.

    And they played MK in base which something they dont normally do. He f’ed the defense up the first half.

    And it was pretty bad officiating. The lions had 2 penalties called against them; one was taunting.

  99. 99 Baloophi said at 5:54 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Fair, but I think the damage was done in the first half. Extra painful to fumble the game away and not “finish,” but not fixing the Kendricks issue earlier probably sealed our fate.

    I don’t know if that’s supposed to make you feel better…

  100. 100 Fufina said at 5:56 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Well penalties and some shocking refereeing really slowed us down at times. Defence stunk up the joint 1st half, but we had the game in our grasp and Mathews threw the game away with that fumble.

    Losses like that happens, to the best of teams.

  101. 101 daveH said at 6:57 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yep.. happened to the steelers.

  102. 102 ChoTime said at 1:04 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I don’t know after 3 games you know anything about “should have” yet. Maybe today is closer to who they are than the near-perfect machine of the first 3 games?

  103. 103 DJH said at 8:30 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I think we can agree they played sloppy: missed tackles, penalties, turnovers, and slow adjustment on defense. If that’s who they turn out to be, that sucks. But I think this was a bad game and one they should have won.

  104. 104 John Galt said at 5:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Im not that upset about the loss. D came out flat. Refs were awful. Mathews can’t fumble there but the refs got that wrong too. Kelce was clearly touching it while out of bounds. Wentz showed he could bring the team back.

    To me the biggest issue is that there is a lot of pressure on next week now. We lose next week we could be 3-3 headed to Dallas. That would be bad

  105. 105 Mitchell said at 6:03 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Andy Dalton S.U.C.K.S.

  106. 106 shah8 said at 6:03 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Tommy’s wrong. Aghelor is at fault. Pass wasn’t that great, but it was also opportunistic. Aghelor is responsible to ensure that no interception happens. Period.

  107. 107 Baloophi said at 6:10 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Also, it’s on Slay for catching it. He needs to drop it so we can be reminded of why he’s a DB and not a receiver.

  108. 108 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:11 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I think you can argue it either way. Wentz shouldnt have thrown it, the Db made a great play, the ball was in the wrong spot, Ags is too small to fight for the ball…

  109. 109 James Adair said at 11:55 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    PI isn’t a great play he grabbed Agholors collar preventing him from jumping for the ball. Slay is a fraud.

  110. 110 BobSmith77 said at 6:04 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Just came out physically and mentally unprepared to play in the 1st half and the deficit was just a bit too big to overcome. That is on the coaching staff.

  111. 111 Buge Halls said at 6:06 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Penalties at the end of the 1st half killed the drive…three times it seems like!

  112. 112 peteike said at 6:10 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Doug let us down You gotta be more aggressive on that last drive. Only up 2 its either you get the FG or they do with 4 downs to get into FG range. I hate that conservative play calling after he was so all out prior. Play to win the game Doug!!!

  113. 113 BobSmith77 said at 6:10 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Mathews’ fumble notwithstanding he continues to not impress me when he gets carries.

    Ditto Sproles even though he had 2 effective carries today including the 15-yarder.

    Run game seemed like it was most effective when they haven been using Barner and used Smallwood in the Pittsburgh game. Still rather see Sproles only get 2-3 carries max and mixing in more Banner/Smallwood.

  114. 114 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 6:13 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He looked good today until the fumble. But thats always a risk with him because he carries the ball with one had through contact.

    I hold my breath every time he runs

    But Smallwood needs to play more. We dont need 4 RBs active on game day

  115. 115 BobSmith77 said at 6:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That’s the issue and your right about not having 4 active RBs. Merrill said that too about Mathews & I didn’t see it. He isn’t a bad back but there isn’t anything he does particularly well either. Strikes me as a marginal starting RB at this point.

    Barner seems to be a bit more agile/shifty & Smallwood a better fit between the tackles.

  116. 116 BobSmith77 said at 6:19 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Wentz made a really costly mistake and had a few shaky throws. Still argue he was the best Eagles’ player on the field today.

    Need to improve the red zone conversion ratio though. Ditto 3rd down conversion to a lesser degree.

  117. 117 Dave said at 6:29 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I still don’t see it as a mistake. Pederson said 1st two progressions were covered and Ags was single covered.

  118. 118 Iskar36 said at 6:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I’ve seen a lot of people call that last throw dumb and I’m not sure I get that criticism. Or at least that level of criticism. Wentz did have space to make a good play there with Agholor single covered deep. Yes, you don’t NEED the big play with 1:18 left, but the fact is, you do need to score. Wentz wasn’t forcing it into tight coverage and on a play like that, your expectations are incomplete pass (and clock stopped), completed pass or PI putting you in FG range, or possible INT with a poor throw. Unfortunately, the throw was in fact poor. Would a shorter throw been better, probably, but I don’t think I would call the decision to go deep flat out dumb.

  119. 119 D3FB said at 7:16 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They needed 40 yards. They had 75 seconds. Throw it out of bounds. Live to fight another down.

  120. 120 Insomniac said at 7:17 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I think he had some room to scramble and get out of bounds too.

  121. 121 D3FB said at 7:22 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Clock more important than 5 yards.

  122. 122 Insomniac said at 7:43 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I would say that the 5 yards was more important on that play. Even if he threw it out of bounds or ran out of bounds, there would have still been more than a minute and 20 seconds left.

  123. 123 unhinged said at 7:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Reid prioritized pass blocking, and Kelly ignored OL. I thought utilizing Tobin as a blocking TE indicated that Doug may want to get an heir to Celek that is a blocker who can catch, as opposed to the reverse. That strategy, and a couple nasty guards may help address red zone scoring issues.

  124. 124 The original AG said at 7:35 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Also having a receiver that doesn’t have drop issues.

  125. 125 BobSmith77 said at 6:21 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    How many snaps did Kendricks play in the 1st half and 2nd half? I don’t remember seeing him much in the 2nd half at all with Bradham getting those snaps.

  126. 126 John Galt said at 6:25 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    It irritates me to no end that Prescott is good. They wanted Lynch so bad and he sucks – getting his arse kicked by Atlantas D – and the Cowgirls 4th choice turns out to be good.

  127. 127 daveH said at 7:22 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Dak sometimes dropd back just 1 step. . That O Line must be fantastic

  128. 128 ChoTime said at 1:01 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Romo was also a shot in the dark that they hit on.

  129. 129 daveH said at 6:45 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    For a mistake that last pass to a better WR is a catch. Sweet pass anyway

  130. 130 xmbk said at 6:49 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The NFL is in danger of becoming a flop league, where refs reward good acting. No way Brooks gets that call without drama from the defender.

  131. 131 daveH said at 6:54 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    And the number of flags tossed AFTER the WR complaint is embarrassing and shud be refs getting fined.

  132. 132 unhinged said at 7:15 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Stating that the crappy officiating was not the singular reason for the outcome is an eternal truth that = the obvious. A number of negative factors, if erased, would likely have altered the outcome, but the officiating should NEVER be, and usually isn’t, that weighty. Luck is an implicit element of the game, but being cursed by half-assed officiating is not luck. It’s more incompetence, or lethargy. I await the day when gross misjudgment of officials is publicly fined as is the misjudgment of players who violate policies. The idea that “shit happens” and every team has to live with random unprofessionalism by game officials is high on the NFL’s pretense meter. If having a referee in a booth at every game, scrutinizing EVERY play, negating bullshit calls, and assessing penalties not called on the field, if that is what it takes to keep the officiating neutral and reliable, it is overdue. The NFL is primarily televised entertainment but there is this quaint notion that too much technology will harm the game. I think not exploiting a tool to make the game more consistently fair is worse.

  133. 133 D3FB said at 7:18 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Since 2000 1% of games have had a penalty disparity of 12 or more.

  134. 134 The original AG said at 7:20 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Wow.

  135. 135 D3FB said at 7:21 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yea it’s like 40 out of 4062

  136. 136 Media Mike said at 7:25 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They need to put more of a premium on leveling out the calls.

  137. 137 unhinged said at 7:46 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Disparity leads to questions about even-handedness, but my gripe is really more about phantom calls and blown calls. If one team is dominating another, I fully expect the latter to have more, perhaps many more, calls against them. But getting the rulings right…I wold like to see that become more of a priority. The QB pampering is bordering on the absurd…unless your Cam Newton.

  138. 138 HawaiianEagle said at 8:36 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Guess we’re just lucky

  139. 139 ChoTime said at 1:01 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Well bell curve, my man. Just on the wrong tail this time.

  140. 140 The original AG said at 7:25 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Next game leave the best players on the field.

    https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/785214096861962241

  141. 141 The original AG said at 7:26 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    There was a person who was asking why Kendricks was playing in place of Bradham. Pedersen said he wanted to keep Hicks/Bradham fresh for the 2nd half. That’s why the defense improved dramatically in the 2nd half.

  142. 142 ChoTime said at 12:59 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    It was a rope-a-dope!

  143. 143 ACViking said at 7:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    This has to be an example of Pederson covering for his player.

    No way do I believe this.

  144. 144 SteveH said at 7:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yeah I agree. The explanation doesn’t actually make much sense really.

  145. 145 sonofdman said at 7:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yep. Definitely.

  146. 146 ACViking said at 7:28 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The Chop-Block call . . .

    Maybe the worst call I can remember.

    Why?

    Because whoever called that penalty has no idea what the rule-book says.

    I mean, it wasn’t like a missed holding call (either way), where the ref’s exercise their judgment . . . such as it is.

    That chop-block call was . . . OMFG . . . a text-book example of blitz pickup.

  147. 147 sonofdman said at 7:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That was beyond ridiculous! He didn’t go low and the blitzing player wasn’t already engaged with another blocker.

  148. 148 SteveH said at 7:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ugh, don’t remind me of this, there are so many bad calls it’s hard to keep track of them all.

  149. 149 ACViking said at 7:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    No question.

    But this call stands out because it was so completely wrong in every way.

  150. 150 SteveH said at 7:34 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I feel like their were a few that were wrong in every way but I get what you’re saying.

  151. 151 Corry said at 8:04 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That was god awful and there’s no explanation for how terrible that was.

  152. 152 P_P_K said at 9:56 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Second worst call. The Ineligible Receiver penalty against #98, Connor Barwin, is the gold standard.

  153. 153 BobSmith77 said at 12:04 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    That was just one of the several calls that Quick and Reese harped on today.

    Reese even went as far as to say this referee crew was simply over matched and not in control of the game in the 4th quarter. Said it was one of the worst officiated games he could remember in a long time.

    Given his status and experience, he can make that kind of remark without fearing much consequence but I can’t imagine many other broadcasters can. With the early panic though about the pronounced drop in ratings, it is almost guaranteed Reese’s blunt comments won’t go unnoticed by the Commissioner’s Office.

  154. 154 scratcherk said at 7:37 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The amount of terrible calls is infuriating still… sigh.

    THe giants could lose and salvage the day

  155. 155 Insomniac said at 7:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Slay is one of the fastest CBs in the league so challenging deep wasn’t the smartest choice in the first place. But I like the fact that Wentz trusts his guys and wants to let them make a play (yea I know..). His deep ball accuracy still has to improve, live and learn rookie.

  156. 156 daveH said at 8:43 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Went down taking a swing.. ok, im cool w it. Just as long as coaches, qb & wr’s all learn from it

  157. 157 SteveH said at 7:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Well here’s a little humor to lighten the day, the Browns had 3 different QB’s today, bringing their signal caller total to 5 on the season. Depending on Kessler’s injury they might be onto their 4th different starter next week.

  158. 158 daveH said at 8:41 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He just won an NBA Championship and his Indians are in the playoffs so just STFD and STFU .. f in dope

  159. 159 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:41 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Its from 2009

  160. 160 daveH said at 8:46 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ahh… graci

  161. 161 SteveH said at 8:58 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Besides, he’s a browns fan man, they don’t feel any warmth from those other teams winning.

  162. 162 daveH said at 9:13 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Well us in philly cant hear his tears. . We got like 4 championships total in a 100 yrs .. he still has the greatest player ever.

  163. 163 ChoTime said at 12:58 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    That’s awkward. Poor guy…

  164. 164 SteveH said at 4:31 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    It’s what years and years of Browns fandom will do to a man.

  165. 165 scratcherk said at 8:07 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The amount of slobbering over the cowboys this week will be nauseating

  166. 166 Media Mike said at 8:08 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    A thousand misfortunes to the Bengals for causing this nonsense.

  167. 167 Cafone said at 8:29 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He Brett Favre’d it.

  168. 168 Media Mike said at 8:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    More like Agholor Riley Coopered it by not fighting for the ball. Should have been an incomplete pass at worst.

  169. 169 The original AG said at 8:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Good to have games like this to show you the weak points. Howie has to go get a receiver in the draft, hopefully he’ll be able to get a stud.

    I wanted to like these guys, but the drops are horrendous.

  170. 170 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    He’s not big enough. He had enough trouble keeping his feet with the DB riding him. And that passes needed to be thrown inside.

    We have a 6’3″ and 6’5″ Wr to win those jump balls.

  171. 171 Media Mike said at 8:37 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Slay and Agholor are both 6 feet tall. He needs to battle.

  172. 172 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:37 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ags is stick.

  173. 173 Media Mike said at 8:38 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    with a hollow core. No “heartwood” as it were.

  174. 174 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 8:40 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Guy needs to hit weights.

    But i hope that lesson to Bradham was worth it

  175. 175 Media Mike said at 8:50 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    If it keeps the next guy from making a stupid move off of the field, then it was worth it.

  176. 176 BobSmith77 said at 12:11 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    My friend texted me and said Agholor has moved up so far to ‘Homeless Man’s Maclin’

  177. 177 HawaiianEagle said at 8:39 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Fn tackle Slay for all I care

  178. 178 Media Mike said at 8:39 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Also preferable to an INT>

  179. 179 scratcherk said at 8:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I dunno, they’re not all megatron. Have to just play to his strengths and that was not it.

  180. 180 Media Mike said at 8:50 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I’m not demanding he make the catch, I just needed him to try.

  181. 181 scratcherk said at 8:33 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    go pack

  182. 182 daveH said at 8:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Who, Kendricks shud go pack ?

  183. 183 scratcherk said at 8:44 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    wow what protection, so much for those high paid DL for giants

  184. 184 Jbirdss said at 8:45 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    no way lacy lost weight in off season

  185. 185 scratcherk said at 8:45 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    thats a big boy

  186. 186 HawaiianEagle said at 8:57 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Maybe not but he looks good

  187. 187 PacificPurl said at 4:19 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    His nickname in Green Bay is “Gouda Buddha”. Perfect.

  188. 188 HawaiianEagle said at 8:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    We better beat WA or we could go from 3 n 0 to 3 n 3…

  189. 189 Media Mike said at 8:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That is a MUST win game now. Especially with Baltimore and Cincy choking today.

  190. 190 HawaiianEagle said at 8:53 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Cincy looked crappier than the refs in our game. OK, maybe not…

  191. 191 Media Mike said at 8:58 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They’re a laughingstock.

  192. 192 SteveH said at 8:59 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Their DL got dominated, and their OL looked awful. Whoever that RT is is like Winston Justice first game action bad.

  193. 193 Aaron said at 9:01 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Dallas is gonna be tough to beat

  194. 194 HawaiianEagle said at 9:03 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    So r we if we play up to potential.

  195. 195 The original AG said at 9:05 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    And when the coach doesn’t bench a player for off-field issues. That decision cost us three TDs in the first half. Never sit your best player in games since they are so important. Fine him or find something else as a punishment. Sitting Bradham in the 1st half cost the team the game basically.

  196. 196 HawaiianEagle said at 9:07 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Agreed. Next week he doesn’t. Back on track.

  197. 197 Howie Littlefinger said at 9:03 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    They are always hyped up and fall apart in November or December

  198. 198 daveH said at 9:43 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Think they will be easier to beat w Romo playing

  199. 199 Media Mike said at 9:04 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Time to put a spray tanned pelt on the wall. Catch you all later.

  200. 200 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:05 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Which one

  201. 201 scratcherk said at 9:09 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Trumps got the sniffles again

  202. 202 SteveH said at 9:10 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Gotta do a few bumps to hype yourself up for the debates you know?

  203. 203 Aaron said at 9:17 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    hard to believe one of those idiots are gonna be president

  204. 204 scratcherk said at 9:18 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I like Bill Weld but too bad he’s the Libertarian VP candidate not the Pres candidate

  205. 205 Will Ft. Daft Punk said at 9:27 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I blame people. Neither should should have won their party Nominations. We already knew who these two clowns were

  206. 206 ChoTime said at 12:56 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Don’t blame me, mon, I vote green.

  207. 207 P_P_K said at 9:45 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I saw a red, white and bluw lawn sign that read:
    They Both Suck
    We’re Screwed 2016

  208. 208 daveH said at 11:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Yep, but id rather go down the tubes the next 4 years behind ____________ instead of ______________ …..

  209. 209 SteveH said at 9:14 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Since there’s a lot of blame to throw around, lets not forget the OL, who did a shitty job in pass pro despite not having to face Ziggy Ansah. Wentz was under pressure way too much this game.

  210. 210 scratcherk said at 9:17 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    someone get trump a fucking nasal strip

  211. 211 Rob Jarratt said at 9:34 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    His sniffles make him sound like such a dufus, which, of course, he is.

  212. 212 daveH said at 9:37 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    His sniffles and her fake smiles ..

  213. 213 HawaiianEagle said at 9:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Her mouth may smile but her eyes say “fu”.

  214. 214 daveH said at 10:36 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Face 1 smiles while face #2 says fu. Like she’s been doing at home for years.

  215. 215 ChoTime said at 12:56 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Weird. She’s a politician, you say?

  216. 216 SteveH said at 9:28 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Oh, here’s something with some upside: I saw Marcus Smith make a really nice play against the run today!

  217. 217 SteveH said at 9:32 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Fletcher Cox, 4 games, 4 sacks… Should have been 5 but he decided to rip Stafford’s head off instead of like, grabbing the jersey or something.

  218. 218 CrackSammich said at 11:23 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Pretty sure that was Logan?

  219. 219 SteveH said at 4:29 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I thought it was Cox, I might be wrong though.

  220. 220 Mitchell said at 9:46 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I shouldnt have put as much stock in the Bengals as I did. The only teams they have beaten are the Jets and Dolphins who have both only won 1 game….

  221. 221 SteveH said at 9:46 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Andy Dalton is such a crap franchise QB. He’s not quite down there with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he’s pretty low.

  222. 222 The original AG said at 9:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Hmm we should make a scale. Not Fitzpatrick bad, but Cutler bad?

  223. 223 SteveH said at 9:49 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That seems about right.

  224. 224 HawaiianEagle said at 9:53 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ginas just hangin around………….

  225. 225 HawaiianEagle said at 10:28 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Eagles – 14 penalties for 111 yards
    Lions – 2 penalties for 18 yards

    Not really sure what to say…

  226. 226 SteveH said at 10:38 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    The fix was in. If I was further along in my journalistic career I might consider investigating possible match fixing in the NFL as a pet project.

  227. 227 The original AG said at 10:42 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I always go back to Dean Blandino hanging out on the Cowboys party bus.

  228. 228 SteveH said at 10:43 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    That’s where I would start. I mean it’s such an obvious conflict of interest he shouldn’t have that job anymore.

  229. 229 Mitchell said at 10:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Youd have a lot of people after you if you did that story I would bet, however, if you are into journalism, I bet you wouldnt really care. I say do it.

  230. 230 SteveH said at 10:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    If journalists aren’t stirring the pot they aren’t really doing their job. But I’m still a student, that story might be a bit out of my reach :p.

  231. 231 Mitchell said at 10:51 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Go big or go home brother. I want to see Blandino go down.

  232. 232 SteveH said at 10:57 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Haha, to do that kind of investigation I’d need resources behind me that school cannot provide. As much as I’d like to.

  233. 233 ChoTime said at 12:55 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    You do it and I’ll write the screenplay. Just don’t get your kneecaps busted up 🙂

  234. 234 SteveH said at 4:28 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I’ll disguise myself as a hooker, Jerry Jones will tell me everything.

  235. 235 Neil said at 11:21 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Brian Tuohy’s already doing stuff like that and has written a few books. Website thefixisin.net or something. Judging by his experience it would be a bad choice for your career prospects as a journalist though.

  236. 236 Mr. Magee said at 10:40 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    My goats of the game, in order:
    1) coaching
    2) officiating
    3) execution

  237. 237 A_T_G said at 11:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    On the positive side, I think Wentz checked off some more boxes for playing from behind and playing well when the defense isn’t making it easy.

  238. 238 sonofdman said at 11:43 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Nah, Wentz made it clear that he can’t drive the team down the field when the game is on the line. He is almost as terrible as McNabb. He is clearly a bust. 😉

  239. 239 HawaiianEagle said at 11:47 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    His “bust” will be in Canton.

  240. 240 sonofdman said at 5:33 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I hope it was obvious that I was joking about Wentz. I think he is great.

  241. 241 truehaynes said at 11:30 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    What is up with obj? Killing my fantasy teams

  242. 242 daveH said at 11:44 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Its not as “fun playing football” when the guys you playing against are as big,fast , athletic and naturally gifted as you are

  243. 243 HawaiianEagle said at 11:31 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Ginas just hanging around…

  244. 244 Flyineagle45 said at 11:48 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    I posted before the draft we should have got elliot and dak and saved future picks. I called Wip and said the same thing. I’m not down on Wentz at all I just hate how the cowboys have more Stars than us and not just on the helmet.

  245. 245 HawaiianEagle said at 11:49 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Week 8…

  246. 246 Flyineagle45 said at 11:52 PM on October 9th, 2016:

    Lol hopefully OGB plays to his full potential, Matthews catches everything thrown his way, Mathews runs like a 1st rd pick and the D play like they did in pitt.

  247. 247 SteveH said at 4:27 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Lets dial that back a bit, we lost by 1 point on a day where we sucked ass and everything was against us (officials). We’ll see how this thing plays out.

  248. 248 A_T_G said at 9:01 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Wow. I was ready for some hand wringing following our first loss. I did not expect lamenting how we screwed up the draft. I’m impressed.

  249. 249 Flyineagle45 said at 9:17 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I’m simply saying we do not have a talented roster. I am happy with Wentz, although I feel we could have got more bang for our buck if we got Elliot and Prescott. We pretty much have 2 top 10 in the league talented on our roster. Jenkins and the mandog Cox. I do like what Wentz is doing with less, I do think any talented qb could come to our team and flourish because of our coaching situation.

  250. 250 Jbirdss said at 9:41 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    No way in hell I would trade wentz for anyone right now, Dak is good but his ceiling is no where near wentz.

    And they always have more stars but hasn’t done much for them in the last 10 years, zeke was a star when he was averaging 3.5 a carry and now he’s a hall of famer (they actually said those words talking about him on the broadcast yesterday).

  251. 251 TXEaglesFan said at 12:08 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Looks like the D is really going to suffer if either Hicks or Bradham get injured. Kendricks has lost it.

  252. 252 SteveH said at 4:26 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    I’m so done with Kendricks… I used to love the guy, thought he was going to be a stud. He has all the athletic tools you could ever want but no feel for the game at all.

  253. 253 Anders said at 5:40 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Same, thought he looked great 2 years ago, but he seems lost right now.

  254. 254 Jbirdss said at 9:35 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    At this point I’d rather good with Goode then him

  255. 255 anon said at 12:40 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Lesean McCoy and Demarco Murray are two of the best backs in the league. such wasted talent.

  256. 256 Insomniac said at 12:45 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Zeke is the best RB in the league right now. Bad year for RBs?

  257. 257 anon said at 12:49 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    bad year for rbs on my fantasy team

    “such terrible value at no. 3”

  258. 258 SteveH said at 4:26 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Zeke gets to run behind that OL, which I hate to admit really does plow the road for their running backs.

  259. 259 eagleyankfan said at 7:52 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    yeah – and ‘as of right now’ — all those draft experts saying they’d never ever draft a RB that early are looking kind of silly…

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  261. 261 eagleyankfan said at 8:00 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    meh. Not a fan of ‘win as a team lose as a team’ stuff. If all individuals do their job, then sure, if it makes people feel better. Everything that happened in that game lead up to 1 series. At that point, I don’t care what happened in the 1st half or the first 3 quarters….at that point, with the game on the line, that’s a terrible, terrible fumble. Who knows what happens even if he holds on to it, we only know what happened by losing the ball….
    ……
    with that said — ship is pointed in the right direction…started the season knowing there’s room to improve…long season still ahead…

  262. 262 SteveH said at 9:52 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Mmmm, first Eagles thought of the day, our receivers are still kind of shit.

    We’re doing well this year, but still so many holes on the roster. Linebacker is paper thin since Kendricks is a huge liability now. Corner is obviously sturdier than the Fletcher/Williams days, but we still need to upgrade, OL is a need, specifically OT and perhaps center (maybe some of the rooks will pan out there), and we clearly need someone at wideout that opposing defenses fear, because we don’t have that guy.

    Also I’ love to see us start games by attacking more aggressively through the air. I think we’ve opened up too many games now with short easy stuff, I want to see us mix it up. Wentz is ready for it. Lets let er rip.

  263. 263 DJH said at 10:49 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    WR, CB, OL, and LB depth. And of course depth everywhere else as well.

  264. 264 anon said at 10:05 AM on October 10th, 2016:

    Ravens promoted QBs coach Marty Mornhinweg to offensive coordinator.
    how is he still around?

  265. 265 Game Review - DET 24, PHI 23 - The Offense said at 6:22 PM on October 15th, 2016:

    […] I previously wrote about the 3rd down run play for Mathews at the end of the game. […]