Sloppy Day
Posted: October 9th, 2016 | Author: Tommy Lawlor | Filed under: Philadelphia Eagles | 265 Comments »The Eagles are undefeated no more. The team made a variety of mistakes and lost to the Lions, 24-23.
There is no one person to blame for this loss. The defense was terrible in the first half, allowing 3 TD drives. The offense failed to convert a Lions fumble in scoring territory into a TD. Then they turned the ball over on the final 2 plays, sealing the loss.
The Eagles have won as a team all year. Today they lost as a team.
This was a very frustrating game. The officiating was terrible. That alone did not cost the Eagles the game, but it certainly had an impact on it. Bad calls or not, the Eagles had control of the game. The late turnovers gave it to the Lions and those had nothing to do with officiating. You can argue there was contact on the final pass play, but I didn’t see that as a blatant situation.
One of the issues in the 1st half was poor LB play. Nigel Bradham didn’t seem to be on the field as much as usual. I need to re-watch the game and see what was going on. Mychal Kendricks had a couple of mistakes that hurt the defense when trying to cover Riddick. Bradham played a lot in the 2nd half and the defense looked like it normally does. They flew around the field and made life tough on the Lions offense. Bradham had 3 TFLs and recovered a fumble so that shows you the kind of impact he can have on a game.
I wasn’t a big fan of the 3rd down play the Eagles ran where Ryan Mathews fumbled the ball away. He was having most of his success between the tackles. To suddenly toss him the ball and ask him to run outside felt weird. I would have preferred a rollout with Wentz where he had the run-pass option. That puts more pressure on the defense. Still, Mathews cannot fumble that ball away. He had it in his inside arm and that didn’t help matters. Getting the 1st down there is huge, but the one thing you can’t do is give them the ball with a turnover.
Carson Wentz played a very good game up until the end. He made a bad decision and compounded that with a bad throw. You can yell and gripe all you want about Nelson Agholor, but watch the play. That ball is to the outside. He’s looking over his shoulder and trying to get outside to the ball. He can’t because the CB is right there in perfect position. That ball needs to be away from the CB, which is to the inside. Agholor certainly didn’t help matters, but that is a bad throw.
It was also a bad decision. Wentz had a clean pocket and got greedy. Instead of finding an underneath receiver or even throwing the ball away, he decided to heave the ball downfield. Dumb. You just don’t do that in that situation. When you trail by a point, have a hot PK and 1:20 or so on the clock, you don’t have to force things. Play smart.
The good news here is that this is a rookie QB making that mistake. We’ve seen more than a few Eagles veterans do it. There are times to be aggressive and times to play situational football. That was a situational moment.
Wentz got his first real taste of adversity and handled it well right up to that point, which is what makes the decision/throw so frustrating. That’s what will get talked about and not the rest of the game, where he looked so good.
The Eagles are 3-1. The rookie QB continues to play well. The defense struggled for a half, but then dominated in the 2nd half. Things could be a lot worse. We knew the Eagles were going to lose at some point. We knew Wentz would throw an INT at some point. Now we get to see how the team responds to a bad day. Besides, better to have a day like this vs the Lions than next week against the Skins.
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Cowboys looking good vs the Bengals, Redskins win, shitty day of football so far.
This is vile.
I really thought the Cowboys had enough pieces to not pick at the top of the draft for a while, preventing them to get Romo’s replacement easily. Well now, I’m really shitting myself. They got plenty of pieces in place to be a top teams for a while, as Dak definitely looks for real.
F Dak.
Blah. He blows. Supporting cast is excellent.
The Cowboys have a good team. Strong OL, Dez and a good supporting cast of targets, Zeke and some players on defense.
Still cannot believe that they lucked out with Dak. Made the mistake to draft Zeke that high, which alone would make them a very good team and he will be a great player, but historically its been a while since a RB won Super Bowls for his team. Then they fucking hit on a 4th round QB, to pair up with their RB, negating that whole situation.
Only positive is the inner division competition, which I truly believe strengthens a team and prepares you for the play-offs and continues seasons of being a good football team. But dammit, of course its the Cowboys who hit on a position thats notoriously difficult to, not only draft well on, but very rare to actually hit a good starter outside of the top 50, and they did it without investing a lot of picks, both prior and after, meaning they have that OL and now plenty of time to build up that defense.
Fuck the cowboys!
I know the rivalry the Patriots have with the Bills, Jets, and Miami really push them to be great
Don’t mind me I’m just getting bitter
Well, the Jets did have a couple of years before imploding, but point taken.
I was more referring to the old NFC East teams, not to mention the AFC North which seems to have had at least 1 strong team for the past 468 years. The NFC North also had loads of years with multiple strong teams.
Ridiculous that the NFL has not yet committed to full time referees.
They don’t to avoid the referees forming a union. Read about it last year.
They only make $9 billion a year. It would be AWFUL if they had to pay their officials union wages.
My understanding is that they will look into in more closely once we get to an 18-game schedule and they have some extra cash to pay for it (after pocketing several hundred million).
Hopefully that schedule never happens. It would lead to way too many bums laying down on the job and not playing in weeks I need them.
The issue is not the wages, it’s the fact that the union could hold them hostage. We don’t need (or want) a unionized pool of officials; but we do need and should expect competence.
I know that. Still ridiculous, just being greedy.
You really think that would make a difference?
In what? Certainly spending the week reviewing and previewing film makes for better officiating. Spending the week on a full-time job is a distraction. Is there any doubt about that?
The other 3 sports have full time officials and they all blow also.
“There is no one person to blame for this loss.”
Correct, there is a list
Kendricks, Kelce, Barbre, Agholor, Mathews, CBs as a group.
Well at least Barner didn’t have a bad game…
He and Smallwood must have went partying in Canada last night and not made it back for the game.
smallwood is a rookie, cant trust him to not fumble. so let the vet handle the ball./s
Kendricks looked really bad tbh
Matador
Kelce late on the snap twice is inexcusable! When the QB is back there clapping his hands like a mad man, snap the freaking ball!
That was driving me crazy, Wentz clapping his life out for the snap and Kelce just sitting on it.
I am thinking with all the crowd noise he didn’t hear it? Isn’t the guard supposed to look back and tap Kelce in fan noise situations?
absolutely and on the second one, Brooks was slapping his leg and Kelce still did not hike. strange.
Bad, sloppy loss against a crappy team they should’ve beaten. Looked to me like the team spent their bye week accepting a few too many pats on the back after their win over the Steelers and came back unfocused. There were way too many blown assignments, dumb penalties, and mental errors. Hopefully Pederson uses this opportunity to teach the team an object lesson about keeping your eye on the ball.
On the plus side, I’m more convinced than ever that we have the right coaches and the right quarterback. After a bad start, the defense adjusted nicely and Pederson’s game plan was good and moved the ball effectively all day. It was only penalties and dropped passes that kept that from translating into points. As for Wentz, he didn’t look rattled by the deficit and brought the team back with aplomb. If not for Mathews’ stupid mistake on that fumble it may well have been enough to win on a bad day for the rest of the team. That’s what you want to see from your franchise QB.
We knew they weren’t going 16-0 and 3-1 at the quarter pole is not bad. They need to put this one behind them and get ready for a big game against Washington next week though.
“Bad, sloppy loss against a crappy team they should’ve beaten. Looked to me like the team spent their bye week accepting a few too many pats on the back after their win over the Steelers and came back unfocused. There were way too many blown assignments, dumb penalties, and mental errors. Hopefully Pederson uses this opportunity to teach the team an object lesson about keeping your eye on the ball.”
Agreed.
Eye and hands on the ball
reposting it again because I’m super salty about it
http://i.imgur.com/z7NOmda.png
http://i.imgur.com/S1ml9A7.jpg
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2016100902/2016/REG5/eagles@lions#menu=drivechart%7CcontentId%3A0ap3000000717728&tab=recap
“Rule 8, section 7 (Fumbles):”
Item 2. Loose Ball. A loose ball is out of bounds when it touches a boundary line or anything that is on or outside such line, including a player, an official, or a pylon.
This was reviewed which means a lot of people missed what I, a fan not too well versed with the rulebook, clearly saw immediately. Pete Morelli man, Jesus.
I don’t see it in the pics you posted and I slow-mo’d it on my DVR and still couldn’t definitively see anyone touch it . It was inconclusive to overturn.
What are you talking about? It’s in Kelces ass and he is obviously out of bounds. Doesn’t have to be a lion
you don’t see Kelce dry humping the ball with his arms out of bounds?
Nope
It’s okay to be wrong. Not okay to deny clear evidence
If it were clear, it would have been overturned.
Everyone was only focused on the Lions guy no one mentioned once Kelce. It was a huge oversight and Pete Morelli is known for those. But I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just blind
That’s right. Morelli got worried about the lions guy whose hand was out but you couldn’t tell for sure and missed the obvious. He is awful
Blind Troll
It’s touching both his legs. I can’t speak for Morelli but he missed it.
You need another angle to confirm. Is this woman touching her nose or could her finger be and inch away from her nose? Without another angle, it’s speculation either way.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ClEOwSTNoBw/Un7tVwClosI/AAAAAAAAABc/CHmj3DIFn-s/s1600/mom_touching_nose.JPG
Wrong. If you look at the angle where the ball is clearly touching his leg ( make sure you turn your phone or tablet if you are using one to horizontal) you can clearly see his arm is on the sideline
Wrong, I’ll just leave this here.
https://twitter.com/DeanBlandino/status/785274766458355713
Okay because Dean Blandino covers his horrible Refs ass I will not believe what I can clearly see in the picture above. Notice in your video how he doesn’t slow it down at the critical frame, only slightly after.
He fucking stops the video and circles Kelce’s arm out of bounds at that exact critical frame.
No he doesn’t. The critical frame is the one before, which is in the picture above. The one where the ball is right under his ass, clearly touching both legs
You mean the one where Kelce is still in bounds and the ball is under his ass?
He’s not in bounds and you can see clearly his arm on the line in the bottom right corner of the shot. If you are too blind to see it that is your problem. I’m done here
Yes, he is in bounds.
Blandino, lol… He’s credible!
Yeah, they always get it right
http://i.imgur.com/hZWgE0k.png
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is your avatar your IRL picture or something?
Not being a smartass, just don’t see the ball touching Kelce.
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Pederson is not Reid.
Reid’s teams usually won coming out of the bye week
To be fair, those teams weren’t that good going into the bye.
well there’s that too
Cincinnati should be disbanded as a city as punishment for this. Making a collect of JV level garbage look like the 88 Niners.
Is my counting wrong or did two eagles WRs drop touchdown passes?
Correct. Same series. Agholor and DGB. Opposite sidelines
Besides the catch ertz made vs browns, no other receivers else has made a play for wentz
or for Wentz too
Early in the game Ags made about 3 tough catches in traffic.
Jmatt caught the back shoulder throw at the end of the half.
Huh, Ags only had 2 catches for 27 yards.
Then maybe those were the only 2 he had. They were good grabs.
Not saying he’s anything special; just saying we didn’t lose because the pass catchers left the QB out to dry
Does is seem that Wentz takes a lot off his throws to Ags? We know he can throw it on a rope, but the passes to Ags seem to be more floaters. I have to believe that is on purpose to help him catch it.
Both of completions today looked like lasers. The TD pass to Huff even had some spice on it. I dont think its something he thinks about.
I have a bigger issue with them not finding Jmatt or Ertz for large stretches of the game today; or not going to DGB more
Im not saying it’s their fault, they make the catches the they are supposed (sometimes not even that).
It looked like the CB was pulling DGB’s other arm down with both hands
He was. Horrific officiating, No credibility just awful people.
Wentz’s only bad decision on that final pass was throwing to Ags.
He was single covered. Although it may have been to the wrong shoulder, great to elite players come down with that ball. Good ones break it up. Ags couldn’t even track it and/or simply got outmuscled fighting for position.
Pederson is putting Wentz in a position to fail by keeping Ags in the game so much. Anquan Boldin is 50 years old and still a better receiver than Ags. Ags and Huff must be the best practice players ever. Hopefully it’s only a matter of time until Doug realizes they aren’t gamers.
I hate the Cowboys so much that it is hard to articulate.
Me too.. Dak reminds me of DMacNabb
I was at a soccer tournament all weekend, so I was watching through Merril’s eyes, but is anyone still claiming that Kendricks is playing fine and gets less reps because of formation?
It seems like Bradham received an unpublished team punishment in the first half and the defense paid for it. Only the refs were more at fault than Kendricks, at least through Merril’s eyes.
Technology-wise, how do you consume the games when at soccer tournaments? Are you leaving an ear-free to interact with families / children… or do you create your own “cone of silence” on the sidelines, muttering to yourself with each egregious 3rd down penalty?
Earphone and the Eagles app on your phone – he’s watching a soccer game, it’s not like anything is going to happen on the field!
You pretty much nailed it.
I leave the ear towards my wife free…until the last few drives.
Once upon a time, Kendricks seemed like such a promising young player, but now if he isn’t attacking up-field he’s a liability. I’d rather see Najee Goode on the field in place of him.
Even attacking upfield he’s liable to be out of control and whiff!
One of the poorest lopsided officiated games I’ve ever seen and we still had a shot to win it
Agreed.
I agree that Wentz “going for it” on 1st down to end the game was a bad decision, but I’m not sure it was a bad throw (and not sure we’ll know until the All-22).
To me, it looked like the deep corner “tracking” drill the WR’s and QB’s do at the Combine, where the WR runs about 20 yards straight down the field and then turns to look back and adjust to the deep ball purposely thrown outside toward the numbers by the QB.
Given that the safety was in the middle of the field, I don’t think Wentz could have thrown it in that direction. Agholor also didn’t help matters: He slowed down his route from the 40 – 50 yard line before Wentz threw it, assuming he was out of the play. That’s where he should have “stacked” Slay, which would’ve put him in position to drift outside for the catch.
Again, agree on the bad, “gunslinger” decision, but I’m not sure the throw was all that bad.
Game on the line, you see the ball coming and that its looking like an interception, you freaking tackle the guy. Deck him for all i care, just take the OPI and dont let him make that game ending play.
I’m not arguing against that either. I also think – game on the line – maybe you don’t give up on your route 15 yards down the field…
Yeah, i get it, maybe its not the best decision to go for it all with the game on the line, but plenty of time against Darius Slay when your WR is Ags, but still. Plenty of reason to blame Ags on that play too, and frankly, I like Wentz going for the win.
For years the Chargers were a very good team, but you just knew they’d get bounced from the playoffs before the Super Bowl, because they played not to lose.
Slay grabbed his collar and pulled him down when he started to go for the ball. PI all the way.
I don’t think the decision was bad – the pass was to the wrong side and slightly under thrown, but that happens on deep bombs – you cannot always judge it perfectly when it has that much time in the air. Ball was up for grabs and either player could have got it – in fact i felt that Agholor was in the better position. Unfortunately he could not come down with it or break it up and we lost because of it.
It’ll be good to see the All 22. Not “good” really… but, enlightening?
Maybe I am in the minority (almost definitely since it failed), but I like the call.
A minute left in a one-score game and they are single covering the deep threat? You need to throw that pass. 90% of the time it is incomplete and opens things up underneath. Execution was the issue, not the call.
Oh, if he catches it or gets a PI it’s the greatest decision in the world!
Though then we would’ve scored too quickly…
If you think we were getting a PI call from those officials, you weren’t watching the rest of the game!
but you also need to know who you are throwing to. Agholor was having a bad game, and has not shown in his career that he can be trusted in that situation.
It was under thrown from the looks of it. Agholor had to slow down and then speed up again since he wasn’t sure where the ball was. It ended up behind him regardless but that’s from what I saw.
Having had a little time to reflect, maybe the biggest concern for me is that they couldn’t win a game they should have. This was a problem with Reid’s Eagles. Very frustrating. I’ll be honest, I’m trying to stay optimistic but I’m hoping it’s not a sign of things to come.
They just looked flat coming off an early bye.
And they played MK in base which something they dont normally do. He f’ed the defense up the first half.
And it was pretty bad officiating. The lions had 2 penalties called against them; one was taunting.
Fair, but I think the damage was done in the first half. Extra painful to fumble the game away and not “finish,” but not fixing the Kendricks issue earlier probably sealed our fate.
I don’t know if that’s supposed to make you feel better…
Well penalties and some shocking refereeing really slowed us down at times. Defence stunk up the joint 1st half, but we had the game in our grasp and Mathews threw the game away with that fumble.
Losses like that happens, to the best of teams.
Yep.. happened to the steelers.
I don’t know after 3 games you know anything about “should have” yet. Maybe today is closer to who they are than the near-perfect machine of the first 3 games?
I think we can agree they played sloppy: missed tackles, penalties, turnovers, and slow adjustment on defense. If that’s who they turn out to be, that sucks. But I think this was a bad game and one they should have won.
Im not that upset about the loss. D came out flat. Refs were awful. Mathews can’t fumble there but the refs got that wrong too. Kelce was clearly touching it while out of bounds. Wentz showed he could bring the team back.
To me the biggest issue is that there is a lot of pressure on next week now. We lose next week we could be 3-3 headed to Dallas. That would be bad
Andy Dalton S.U.C.K.S.
Tommy’s wrong. Aghelor is at fault. Pass wasn’t that great, but it was also opportunistic. Aghelor is responsible to ensure that no interception happens. Period.
Also, it’s on Slay for catching it. He needs to drop it so we can be reminded of why he’s a DB and not a receiver.
I think you can argue it either way. Wentz shouldnt have thrown it, the Db made a great play, the ball was in the wrong spot, Ags is too small to fight for the ball…
PI isn’t a great play he grabbed Agholors collar preventing him from jumping for the ball. Slay is a fraud.
Just came out physically and mentally unprepared to play in the 1st half and the deficit was just a bit too big to overcome. That is on the coaching staff.
Penalties at the end of the 1st half killed the drive…three times it seems like!
Doug let us down You gotta be more aggressive on that last drive. Only up 2 its either you get the FG or they do with 4 downs to get into FG range. I hate that conservative play calling after he was so all out prior. Play to win the game Doug!!!
Mathews’ fumble notwithstanding he continues to not impress me when he gets carries.
Ditto Sproles even though he had 2 effective carries today including the 15-yarder.
Run game seemed like it was most effective when they haven been using Barner and used Smallwood in the Pittsburgh game. Still rather see Sproles only get 2-3 carries max and mixing in more Banner/Smallwood.
He looked good today until the fumble. But thats always a risk with him because he carries the ball with one had through contact.
I hold my breath every time he runs
But Smallwood needs to play more. We dont need 4 RBs active on game day
That’s the issue and your right about not having 4 active RBs. Merrill said that too about Mathews & I didn’t see it. He isn’t a bad back but there isn’t anything he does particularly well either. Strikes me as a marginal starting RB at this point.
Barner seems to be a bit more agile/shifty & Smallwood a better fit between the tackles.
Wentz made a really costly mistake and had a few shaky throws. Still argue he was the best Eagles’ player on the field today.
Need to improve the red zone conversion ratio though. Ditto 3rd down conversion to a lesser degree.
I still don’t see it as a mistake. Pederson said 1st two progressions were covered and Ags was single covered.
I’ve seen a lot of people call that last throw dumb and I’m not sure I get that criticism. Or at least that level of criticism. Wentz did have space to make a good play there with Agholor single covered deep. Yes, you don’t NEED the big play with 1:18 left, but the fact is, you do need to score. Wentz wasn’t forcing it into tight coverage and on a play like that, your expectations are incomplete pass (and clock stopped), completed pass or PI putting you in FG range, or possible INT with a poor throw. Unfortunately, the throw was in fact poor. Would a shorter throw been better, probably, but I don’t think I would call the decision to go deep flat out dumb.
They needed 40 yards. They had 75 seconds. Throw it out of bounds. Live to fight another down.
I think he had some room to scramble and get out of bounds too.
Clock more important than 5 yards.
I would say that the 5 yards was more important on that play. Even if he threw it out of bounds or ran out of bounds, there would have still been more than a minute and 20 seconds left.
Reid prioritized pass blocking, and Kelly ignored OL. I thought utilizing Tobin as a blocking TE indicated that Doug may want to get an heir to Celek that is a blocker who can catch, as opposed to the reverse. That strategy, and a couple nasty guards may help address red zone scoring issues.
Also having a receiver that doesn’t have drop issues.
How many snaps did Kendricks play in the 1st half and 2nd half? I don’t remember seeing him much in the 2nd half at all with Bradham getting those snaps.
It irritates me to no end that Prescott is good. They wanted Lynch so bad and he sucks – getting his arse kicked by Atlantas D – and the Cowgirls 4th choice turns out to be good.
Dak sometimes dropd back just 1 step. . That O Line must be fantastic
Romo was also a shot in the dark that they hit on.
For a mistake that last pass to a better WR is a catch. Sweet pass anyway
The NFL is in danger of becoming a flop league, where refs reward good acting. No way Brooks gets that call without drama from the defender.
And the number of flags tossed AFTER the WR complaint is embarrassing and shud be refs getting fined.
Stating that the crappy officiating was not the singular reason for the outcome is an eternal truth that = the obvious. A number of negative factors, if erased, would likely have altered the outcome, but the officiating should NEVER be, and usually isn’t, that weighty. Luck is an implicit element of the game, but being cursed by half-assed officiating is not luck. It’s more incompetence, or lethargy. I await the day when gross misjudgment of officials is publicly fined as is the misjudgment of players who violate policies. The idea that “shit happens” and every team has to live with random unprofessionalism by game officials is high on the NFL’s pretense meter. If having a referee in a booth at every game, scrutinizing EVERY play, negating bullshit calls, and assessing penalties not called on the field, if that is what it takes to keep the officiating neutral and reliable, it is overdue. The NFL is primarily televised entertainment but there is this quaint notion that too much technology will harm the game. I think not exploiting a tool to make the game more consistently fair is worse.
Since 2000 1% of games have had a penalty disparity of 12 or more.
Wow.
Yea it’s like 40 out of 4062
They need to put more of a premium on leveling out the calls.
Disparity leads to questions about even-handedness, but my gripe is really more about phantom calls and blown calls. If one team is dominating another, I fully expect the latter to have more, perhaps many more, calls against them. But getting the rulings right…I wold like to see that become more of a priority. The QB pampering is bordering on the absurd…unless your Cam Newton.
Guess we’re just lucky
Well bell curve, my man. Just on the wrong tail this time.
Next game leave the best players on the field.
https://twitter.com/JimmyKempski/status/785214096861962241
There was a person who was asking why Kendricks was playing in place of Bradham. Pedersen said he wanted to keep Hicks/Bradham fresh for the 2nd half. That’s why the defense improved dramatically in the 2nd half.
It was a rope-a-dope!
This has to be an example of Pederson covering for his player.
No way do I believe this.
Yeah I agree. The explanation doesn’t actually make much sense really.
Yep. Definitely.
The Chop-Block call . . .
Maybe the worst call I can remember.
Why?
Because whoever called that penalty has no idea what the rule-book says.
I mean, it wasn’t like a missed holding call (either way), where the ref’s exercise their judgment . . . such as it is.
That chop-block call was . . . OMFG . . . a text-book example of blitz pickup.
That was beyond ridiculous! He didn’t go low and the blitzing player wasn’t already engaged with another blocker.
Ugh, don’t remind me of this, there are so many bad calls it’s hard to keep track of them all.
No question.
But this call stands out because it was so completely wrong in every way.
I feel like their were a few that were wrong in every way but I get what you’re saying.
That was god awful and there’s no explanation for how terrible that was.
Second worst call. The Ineligible Receiver penalty against #98, Connor Barwin, is the gold standard.
That was just one of the several calls that Quick and Reese harped on today.
Reese even went as far as to say this referee crew was simply over matched and not in control of the game in the 4th quarter. Said it was one of the worst officiated games he could remember in a long time.
Given his status and experience, he can make that kind of remark without fearing much consequence but I can’t imagine many other broadcasters can. With the early panic though about the pronounced drop in ratings, it is almost guaranteed Reese’s blunt comments won’t go unnoticed by the Commissioner’s Office.
The amount of terrible calls is infuriating still… sigh.
THe giants could lose and salvage the day
Slay is one of the fastest CBs in the league so challenging deep wasn’t the smartest choice in the first place. But I like the fact that Wentz trusts his guys and wants to let them make a play (yea I know..). His deep ball accuracy still has to improve, live and learn rookie.
Went down taking a swing.. ok, im cool w it. Just as long as coaches, qb & wr’s all learn from it
Well here’s a little humor to lighten the day, the Browns had 3 different QB’s today, bringing their signal caller total to 5 on the season. Depending on Kessler’s injury they might be onto their 4th different starter next week.
He just won an NBA Championship and his Indians are in the playoffs so just STFD and STFU .. f in dope
Its from 2009
Ahh… graci
Besides, he’s a browns fan man, they don’t feel any warmth from those other teams winning.
Well us in philly cant hear his tears. . We got like 4 championships total in a 100 yrs .. he still has the greatest player ever.
That’s awkward. Poor guy…
It’s what years and years of Browns fandom will do to a man.
The amount of slobbering over the cowboys this week will be nauseating
A thousand misfortunes to the Bengals for causing this nonsense.
He Brett Favre’d it.
More like Agholor Riley Coopered it by not fighting for the ball. Should have been an incomplete pass at worst.
Good to have games like this to show you the weak points. Howie has to go get a receiver in the draft, hopefully he’ll be able to get a stud.
I wanted to like these guys, but the drops are horrendous.
He’s not big enough. He had enough trouble keeping his feet with the DB riding him. And that passes needed to be thrown inside.
We have a 6’3″ and 6’5″ Wr to win those jump balls.
Slay and Agholor are both 6 feet tall. He needs to battle.
Ags is stick.
with a hollow core. No “heartwood” as it were.
Guy needs to hit weights.
But i hope that lesson to Bradham was worth it
If it keeps the next guy from making a stupid move off of the field, then it was worth it.
My friend texted me and said Agholor has moved up so far to ‘Homeless Man’s Maclin’
Fn tackle Slay for all I care
Also preferable to an INT>
I dunno, they’re not all megatron. Have to just play to his strengths and that was not it.
I’m not demanding he make the catch, I just needed him to try.
go pack
Who, Kendricks shud go pack ?
wow what protection, so much for those high paid DL for giants
no way lacy lost weight in off season
thats a big boy
Maybe not but he looks good
His nickname in Green Bay is “Gouda Buddha”. Perfect.
We better beat WA or we could go from 3 n 0 to 3 n 3…
That is a MUST win game now. Especially with Baltimore and Cincy choking today.
Cincy looked crappier than the refs in our game. OK, maybe not…
They’re a laughingstock.
Their DL got dominated, and their OL looked awful. Whoever that RT is is like Winston Justice first game action bad.
Dallas is gonna be tough to beat
So r we if we play up to potential.
And when the coach doesn’t bench a player for off-field issues. That decision cost us three TDs in the first half. Never sit your best player in games since they are so important. Fine him or find something else as a punishment. Sitting Bradham in the 1st half cost the team the game basically.
Agreed. Next week he doesn’t. Back on track.
They are always hyped up and fall apart in November or December
Think they will be easier to beat w Romo playing
Time to put a spray tanned pelt on the wall. Catch you all later.
Which one
Trumps got the sniffles again
Gotta do a few bumps to hype yourself up for the debates you know?
hard to believe one of those idiots are gonna be president
I like Bill Weld but too bad he’s the Libertarian VP candidate not the Pres candidate
I blame people. Neither should should have won their party Nominations. We already knew who these two clowns were
Don’t blame me, mon, I vote green.
I saw a red, white and bluw lawn sign that read:
They Both Suck
We’re Screwed 2016
Yep, but id rather go down the tubes the next 4 years behind ____________ instead of ______________ …..
Since there’s a lot of blame to throw around, lets not forget the OL, who did a shitty job in pass pro despite not having to face Ziggy Ansah. Wentz was under pressure way too much this game.
someone get trump a fucking nasal strip
His sniffles make him sound like such a dufus, which, of course, he is.
His sniffles and her fake smiles ..
Her mouth may smile but her eyes say “fu”.
Face 1 smiles while face #2 says fu. Like she’s been doing at home for years.
Weird. She’s a politician, you say?
Oh, here’s something with some upside: I saw Marcus Smith make a really nice play against the run today!
Fletcher Cox, 4 games, 4 sacks… Should have been 5 but he decided to rip Stafford’s head off instead of like, grabbing the jersey or something.
Pretty sure that was Logan?
I thought it was Cox, I might be wrong though.
I shouldnt have put as much stock in the Bengals as I did. The only teams they have beaten are the Jets and Dolphins who have both only won 1 game….
Andy Dalton is such a crap franchise QB. He’s not quite down there with Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he’s pretty low.
Hmm we should make a scale. Not Fitzpatrick bad, but Cutler bad?
That seems about right.
Ginas just hangin around………….
Eagles – 14 penalties for 111 yards
Lions – 2 penalties for 18 yards
Not really sure what to say…
The fix was in. If I was further along in my journalistic career I might consider investigating possible match fixing in the NFL as a pet project.
I always go back to Dean Blandino hanging out on the Cowboys party bus.
That’s where I would start. I mean it’s such an obvious conflict of interest he shouldn’t have that job anymore.
Youd have a lot of people after you if you did that story I would bet, however, if you are into journalism, I bet you wouldnt really care. I say do it.
If journalists aren’t stirring the pot they aren’t really doing their job. But I’m still a student, that story might be a bit out of my reach :p.
Go big or go home brother. I want to see Blandino go down.
Haha, to do that kind of investigation I’d need resources behind me that school cannot provide. As much as I’d like to.
You do it and I’ll write the screenplay. Just don’t get your kneecaps busted up 🙂
I’ll disguise myself as a hooker, Jerry Jones will tell me everything.
Brian Tuohy’s already doing stuff like that and has written a few books. Website thefixisin.net or something. Judging by his experience it would be a bad choice for your career prospects as a journalist though.
My goats of the game, in order:
1) coaching
2) officiating
3) execution
On the positive side, I think Wentz checked off some more boxes for playing from behind and playing well when the defense isn’t making it easy.
Nah, Wentz made it clear that he can’t drive the team down the field when the game is on the line. He is almost as terrible as McNabb. He is clearly a bust. 😉
His “bust” will be in Canton.
I hope it was obvious that I was joking about Wentz. I think he is great.
What is up with obj? Killing my fantasy teams
Its not as “fun playing football” when the guys you playing against are as big,fast , athletic and naturally gifted as you are
Ginas just hanging around…
I posted before the draft we should have got elliot and dak and saved future picks. I called Wip and said the same thing. I’m not down on Wentz at all I just hate how the cowboys have more Stars than us and not just on the helmet.
Week 8…
Lol hopefully OGB plays to his full potential, Matthews catches everything thrown his way, Mathews runs like a 1st rd pick and the D play like they did in pitt.
Lets dial that back a bit, we lost by 1 point on a day where we sucked ass and everything was against us (officials). We’ll see how this thing plays out.
Wow. I was ready for some hand wringing following our first loss. I did not expect lamenting how we screwed up the draft. I’m impressed.
I’m simply saying we do not have a talented roster. I am happy with Wentz, although I feel we could have got more bang for our buck if we got Elliot and Prescott. We pretty much have 2 top 10 in the league talented on our roster. Jenkins and the mandog Cox. I do like what Wentz is doing with less, I do think any talented qb could come to our team and flourish because of our coaching situation.
No way in hell I would trade wentz for anyone right now, Dak is good but his ceiling is no where near wentz.
And they always have more stars but hasn’t done much for them in the last 10 years, zeke was a star when he was averaging 3.5 a carry and now he’s a hall of famer (they actually said those words talking about him on the broadcast yesterday).
Looks like the D is really going to suffer if either Hicks or Bradham get injured. Kendricks has lost it.
I’m so done with Kendricks… I used to love the guy, thought he was going to be a stud. He has all the athletic tools you could ever want but no feel for the game at all.
Same, thought he looked great 2 years ago, but he seems lost right now.
At this point I’d rather good with Goode then him
Lesean McCoy and Demarco Murray are two of the best backs in the league. such wasted talent.
Zeke is the best RB in the league right now. Bad year for RBs?
bad year for rbs on my fantasy team
“such terrible value at no. 3”
Zeke gets to run behind that OL, which I hate to admit really does plow the road for their running backs.
yeah – and ‘as of right now’ — all those draft experts saying they’d never ever draft a RB that early are looking kind of silly…
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meh. Not a fan of ‘win as a team lose as a team’ stuff. If all individuals do their job, then sure, if it makes people feel better. Everything that happened in that game lead up to 1 series. At that point, I don’t care what happened in the 1st half or the first 3 quarters….at that point, with the game on the line, that’s a terrible, terrible fumble. Who knows what happens even if he holds on to it, we only know what happened by losing the ball….
……
with that said — ship is pointed in the right direction…started the season knowing there’s room to improve…long season still ahead…
Mmmm, first Eagles thought of the day, our receivers are still kind of shit.
We’re doing well this year, but still so many holes on the roster. Linebacker is paper thin since Kendricks is a huge liability now. Corner is obviously sturdier than the Fletcher/Williams days, but we still need to upgrade, OL is a need, specifically OT and perhaps center (maybe some of the rooks will pan out there), and we clearly need someone at wideout that opposing defenses fear, because we don’t have that guy.
Also I’ love to see us start games by attacking more aggressively through the air. I think we’ve opened up too many games now with short easy stuff, I want to see us mix it up. Wentz is ready for it. Lets let er rip.
WR, CB, OL, and LB depth. And of course depth everywhere else as well.
Ravens promoted QBs coach Marty Mornhinweg to offensive coordinator.
how is he still around?
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